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I love every day clicks up 19 00:00:58,080 --> 00:00:59,280 Speaker 2: the Breakfast Club. 20 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:04,320 Speaker 1: All Done Morning, everybody is dj n V, Jess Hilarious, 21 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:06,760 Speaker 1: Charlamagne the God. We are the Breakfast Club. Laura La 22 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:09,200 Speaker 1: Rosa is here as well, and we got a special 23 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 1: guest in the building, the Legend. 24 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 3: Welcome back. I am blessed. 25 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 1: How you I'm doing amazing. 26 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 3: All of this young energy. I'll take it on it. 27 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 2: I was born in nineteen seventy eight. If I'm young, 28 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:26,680 Speaker 2: do you thank you? 29 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:31,479 Speaker 3: Seventy eight? I got abroad it, I bought seven. 30 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 2: You never stopped working. 31 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 4: No, you're here today because you got a new show, 32 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:41,200 Speaker 4: The Inside Fix. But you just put out a book 33 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 4: Spiritual Hygiene and December. 34 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:44,559 Speaker 2: Why can't you ever keep still well? 35 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 3: Because I don't want to grow roots, want to grow roots? 36 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 3: You know, roots are not not helpful. God, it's good, 37 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 3: you know, don't We need it? 38 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 2: Absolutely? 39 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 3: We need the work, so we need the energy. So 40 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 3: I'm out here. I'm out here. I could be on 41 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 3: the poll, but this is so much more beneficial. 42 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 2: Let's see the first episode hilarious. 43 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 1: So for people that don't know, it's almost like, where 44 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:14,399 Speaker 1: are they now? 45 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:18,959 Speaker 3: Where are we now? Not them? Yes, where are we now? 46 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 1: Break down the show? 47 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 3: Yeah. What I did was we went back into some 48 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:27,800 Speaker 3: of our highest rated shows with the most of them, huh, 49 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 3: the most I know. I'm a mean machine. And we 50 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:36,399 Speaker 3: looked at those shows for issues that are going on today, 51 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 3: because the way we deal with stuff today is very 52 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 3: different than we did twelve years ago. Twelve years ago, 53 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 3: these six women had a problem and they pulled their 54 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 3: their copy down off the internet. Today, you know, that 55 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 3: would be ig I T Facebook, they would be canceled, 56 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 3: and so how we deal with it today? But the 57 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 3: issue of breakdown among women is just as prevalent today 58 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 3: as it was back then. So how do we deal 59 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:08,800 Speaker 3: with that? How do we address that? So that's what 60 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:11,960 Speaker 3: we're doing. We're going back into the shows and looking 61 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 3: at how to take those issues and apply them. 62 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 1: I love how you did it. 63 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 4: Why did you find that more appealing than revisiting I mean, 64 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:20,359 Speaker 4: why did you decide to revisit older stories instead of 65 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 4: helping new families? 66 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:32,520 Speaker 3: Because I'm old, I'm old and season, you know, because 67 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 3: we just keep reinventing stuff and we don't even really 68 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 3: get all the juice out of what we got. We 69 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 3: didn't get all the juice out of fix my life. 70 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 3: That's why we can go back in and do it 71 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 3: again today. The things that are applicable back then, I 72 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 3: did shows with mothers and daughters, and now you have 73 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 3: mothers divorcing or daughters divorcing, mothers, children not speaking to parents. 74 00:03:55,360 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 3: That wasn't going on back then. So yeah, and also 75 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 3: to let people know that sometimes you don't even know 76 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 3: what you're looking at, because people looked at that and 77 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 3: got into the characters and the people, but they were 78 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 3: looking at a whole nother thing, just like in the 79 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 3: world today, we don't really know what we're looking at. 80 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 2: Expound on that we don't really know. 81 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:28,360 Speaker 3: We're trying to get me shot. Do I look so, 82 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:28,919 Speaker 3: Molly and. 83 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 2: I DMX could have lived to be on this show. 84 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 3: He wasn't ready. I think he was willing, but he 85 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 3: wasn't ready, And you got to be both. Can't be 86 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 3: just ready and not willing or willing. He wasn't He 87 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 3: wasn't ready. You also talk about lady balls, lady ball 88 00:04:56,240 --> 00:05:03,359 Speaker 3: who yes, okay, now, but we gotta understand that lady 89 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:11,159 Speaker 3: balls and testicles are different. Okay, because testical You see 90 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 3: what you see now, The hair you see on testicles 91 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:15,599 Speaker 3: is real. 92 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 1: Get defended. 93 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 3: You see a lot of women, because of the the 94 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:29,280 Speaker 3: way we are conditioned and programmed and educated, take on 95 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:34,839 Speaker 3: masculine qualities, you know, and and they think it's powerful. 96 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:40,280 Speaker 3: But feminine power is very different than masculine power. Feminine 97 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 3: power is assertive, masculine power is aggressive. Feminine power is directive, 98 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 3: it's nurturing, it's nourishing, it's clear, and masculine power is 99 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 3: often domineering and controlling and directive as opposed to collaborative. So, 100 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 3: lady balls, you know a lot of men today want 101 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 3: to be the boss and they want to be the 102 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:09,360 Speaker 3: diva and have no leadership skills whatsoever. Lady balls are 103 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 3: how a powerful woman lives in, moves and stands in 104 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 3: her power in a way that nurtures, nourishes, supports, heels, 105 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:25,360 Speaker 3: grows other people. It's not testicles. Testicles are aggressive. They 106 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 3: got here and sometimes they smell. Don't ask me. 107 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 5: I know, you know. 108 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:33,720 Speaker 2: And it's interesting. 109 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 4: In one of the episodes, you point out that women 110 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:39,720 Speaker 4: don't know the distinction between assertiveness and aggression. 111 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:42,159 Speaker 2: How do you advise women to create a distinction between 112 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 2: the two. 113 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:45,920 Speaker 3: Well, lead with your heart and not with your head. 114 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:50,719 Speaker 3: Lead with your heart. That's that's ladyballs. Lady balls don't 115 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:53,040 Speaker 3: come from the crotch, They come from the heart. 116 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 1: Did you come up with the certain lady balls? 117 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:55,919 Speaker 2: Did you come up? 118 00:06:57,839 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 3: I said it for so long, but then when I 119 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:02,920 Speaker 3: went to buy the trademarket, people have said that, but 120 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 3: I spell mind differently, and nobody else has a deck 121 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 3: of cards. My team created a deck of cards so 122 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 3: you can pull your lady ball card. Talking about balls, 123 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:19,240 Speaker 3: mister Willie doesn't have to show up. 124 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 6: What do you say to women who have like because 125 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 6: a lot of women shy away from leading with their 126 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 6: heart because they're called to emotional or they they're scared 127 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 6: to be vulnerable and make decisions based off of emotion 128 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 6: because they think that they're not thinking clearly. 129 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 3: Why do you think the heart is about emotion? 130 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 6: That's what most people would relate heartfelt decisions too. When 131 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 6: it comes to women, well, who men? Yes, men, because 132 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 6: most women are so far out. 133 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 3: Of their heart they don't even know what the heart does. 134 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 3: The truth is that the mind was created to be 135 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 3: a slave of the heart, but we've made the heart 136 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 3: a slave of the mind or the intellect. Heart centered, 137 00:07:57,560 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 3: is grounded, It's clarity and again, nourishing, nurturing, edifying. It's progressive. 138 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 3: The heart is progressive. The mind gets stuck in the loop. 139 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 3: That's why we have therapy. Don't nobody go to nothing 140 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 3: to try to get their heart fixed. They trying to 141 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 3: fix their head. The heart doesn't get stuck in the loop. 142 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 3: The heart remains open because the heart is where God speaks. 143 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 3: God doesn't speak in the intellect. God speaks in the heart. 144 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:30,239 Speaker 6: When did you realize how to best use your Lady Balls? 145 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 6: Because I saw you talk about you know, when you 146 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 6: were raising your kids, you were being the father and 147 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 6: you weren't the mother. You weren't the most nurturing. So 148 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 6: when did you realize how to lean into that? 149 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 3: I think when I lost my first daughter and I 150 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 3: had to raise her daughter m and I looked at 151 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 3: all the mistakes I had made, and I didn't want 152 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 3: to be continue to be a father, and so I 153 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 3: got a chance to be a grandma doing a mom's job. 154 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 3: So that was really really helpful for me. The other 155 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 3: thing is that you know, I'm a student of a 156 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:07,559 Speaker 3: course of miracles, and a course of miracles says I 157 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:11,319 Speaker 3: must have decided wrongly because I am not at peace. 158 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 3: So it comes a moment when we make a choice 159 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:17,080 Speaker 3: or decision, but we wrestle with it. We're not at 160 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:21,959 Speaker 3: peace with it. And Ladyballs allows you to be assertive 161 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 3: and clear grounded and peaceful. A lot of decisions I 162 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:32,720 Speaker 3: make with my head leave me in doubt and flux 163 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:36,719 Speaker 3: and craziness. But when I really do decide with my 164 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 3: heart and I'm at peace, that makes sense. Yeah. So 165 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 3: I think that's how I learned how to use Lady 166 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:44,319 Speaker 3: Ball's grandmother. 167 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:47,200 Speaker 1: You give yourself grace, though, because when you talk about. 168 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 3: It, absolutely I give myself a lot of grace. And 169 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 3: when I say, like I was a horrible mother, which 170 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:55,839 Speaker 3: I say in my book, or when I say I 171 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:58,439 Speaker 3: made a lot of mistakes with my son, with my children, 172 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 3: it's from a learning, not from the condemnation. I don't 173 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 3: judge it. You know, my kids chose me. I was 174 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 3: just trying to get some nookie. They decided they wanted 175 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:14,560 Speaker 3: they decided they wanted to be born. So here they come, 176 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 3: intruding in my nude, in the citious activity. They chose me. 177 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:24,679 Speaker 3: So they came to learn too. So we're teaching each other. 178 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 3: Grace is very important, even. 179 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 5: With your your past, because your new show is you 180 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:30,960 Speaker 5: know the inside fix. 181 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:31,200 Speaker 2: Right. 182 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 7: So you said you chose to go back and you 183 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 7: know to previous cases. Right, do you feel at any 184 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 7: time back then you got it wrong? 185 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 3: Or you mean, oh no, absolutely not not there. You 186 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 3: know why I prayed about every show, and that work 187 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:50,319 Speaker 3: was my ministry that was led by spirit. One of 188 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 3: the reasons we're doing the inside fix is because back 189 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:55,679 Speaker 3: then I did the work. Now I want people to 190 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:58,679 Speaker 3: do the work. Every single show comes with a worksheet. 191 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:03,679 Speaker 3: Had a television show give you homework? No, so that 192 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 3: you can look at the show and say, where is 193 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 3: this in my life? How do I do this? Where 194 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:12,600 Speaker 3: have I done this? Where is this going on? Download 195 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:16,559 Speaker 3: the work free? Free? Don't we like free? Free worksheet? 196 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:19,360 Speaker 3: So I did the work, then now you do the work. 197 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 4: I want to ask you a question about what you 198 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:25,719 Speaker 4: said about women having masculine qualities. Masculine qualities but no 199 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:27,200 Speaker 4: leadership of ability. 200 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 3: They want to be the boss and the diva, but 201 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 3: they don't have leadership tendencies, leadership training, leadership, not even qualities, 202 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:41,199 Speaker 3: because you can have leadership qualities, but you have to 203 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 3: have The leader has to have a heart. We see 204 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:47,200 Speaker 3: what it looks like when a leader doesn't have a heart. 205 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 3: Let me, I don't look Somali. 206 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 2: Is that something you can learn or is that something 207 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:55,560 Speaker 2: that has to be in you already? 208 00:11:56,480 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 3: Well? I think that leaders are born, but they definitely 209 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:08,679 Speaker 3: have to be trained. Some people say leaders are trained. 210 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:12,440 Speaker 3: They're not born. I believe leaders are born. Some people 211 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:16,959 Speaker 3: just rise into it. But there's certain qualities and characteristics 212 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 3: that an effective leader needs. And the one thing is 213 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 3: heart for people. Another thing is a vision. Leadership isn't 214 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:28,719 Speaker 3: just about ordering people around and telling them what to do. 215 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 3: A leader has to have a vision and then you 216 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 3: get people to buy into the vision and you lead 217 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:37,439 Speaker 3: them in that vision in a way that's whole and 218 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:38,760 Speaker 3: healthy for everybody. 219 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 2: Know, you'ret in corporate America all the time. 220 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 4: A lot of people in leadership roles and leadership positions, 221 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:45,079 Speaker 4: but they're not actually leader. 222 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 3: No vision. They're controllers, they're demagogues, they're bullies, they're all 223 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:52,559 Speaker 3: sorts of things. And whenever money is the only thing 224 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 3: that leads you, you're going to have a problem. 225 00:12:56,679 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 1: What would you say to somebody who was, like say, 226 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 1: in a workplace or in a relationshiphip that wants that 227 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:03,719 Speaker 1: work relationship or real relationship to work. 228 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 3: Right. 229 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:07,720 Speaker 1: One of the exercises you did on the first episode, 230 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 1: which was from what twenty fourteen I Love It was 231 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:14,079 Speaker 1: you brought everybody to a department store and you made 232 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:16,319 Speaker 1: everybody shop for each other. You buy this person outfit, 233 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 1: you buy this person. Yeah, and then when you did, 234 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 1: you said, well, why did you buy that person at? 235 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 1: How do you look at them? So what would you 236 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 1: advise for a couple or even somebody working to do 237 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:28,840 Speaker 1: to try to fix it because you can't be there 238 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:29,719 Speaker 1: or they can't afford you. 239 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 3: Well, they can read my book because in spiritual hygiene, 240 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:39,559 Speaker 3: spiritual hygiene for relationships, spiritual hygiene for parenting, and spiritual 241 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:43,040 Speaker 3: hygiene for the workplace. Here's the thing in any relationship. 242 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:47,439 Speaker 3: Three things. Number one tell the truth. One of the 243 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:51,199 Speaker 3: reasons our relationships are dying and drying up is because 244 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 3: we lie about everything. We lie about what we feel, 245 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:55,839 Speaker 3: we lie about what we want. Sometimes it's not a 246 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:59,680 Speaker 3: conscious lie, it's a lie driven by fear. The fear 247 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:02,720 Speaker 3: of losing, the fear of being harmed. So we don't 248 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:05,599 Speaker 3: want to be vulnerable. But in order for anything to 249 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:08,559 Speaker 3: grow and thrive, you gotta have some truth. The other 250 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:12,439 Speaker 3: thing is accountability. All the stuff that we're not seeing 251 00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:16,600 Speaker 3: in the world today, tell it to be accountable. Don't 252 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 3: blame and project own your stuff, own it and be 253 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 3: accountable for every choice, every word, every action, and know 254 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 3: what you're bringing to the table, particularly in the workplace, 255 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 3: people go to work to make money. People go to 256 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 3: work to you know, very few people go to work 257 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 3: to serve. So what do you bring into the table 258 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:45,600 Speaker 3: that you want something in return? Give me, give me, 259 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 3: give me, give me, give me. What are you bringing 260 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 3: to the table? So I think that if we did 261 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 3: that in relationships, if we did that in the workplace, 262 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 3: we'd have a lot more respect than honor. For if 263 00:14:57,360 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 3: I can't believe that you your grandmother didn't die again 264 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 3: for the third time at me because you only died once, 265 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 3: you know, where do you do somebody in the face 266 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 3: and believe that what they're telling you is the truth, 267 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 3: that they're not trying to take you down or get 268 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 3: something from you? 269 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 2: Or it's can we stay? I want to stay here? 270 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 4: With the spiritual hygiene, first of all, I love to 271 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 4: tite a little book. What is spiritual hygiene and how 272 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 4: do people tend to it? 273 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 3: It's the daily, daily commitment and practice of clearing your mind, 274 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 3: of cleaning your heart, of strengthening your spirit. It's not 275 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:46,400 Speaker 3: a one time thing, it's a practice. Your spirit has 276 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 3: to be maintained like your teeth. You know, are people 277 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 3: brush their teeth every day and go years without an 278 00:15:55,360 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 3: examination of their own thoughts, they got fungus in the mind. 279 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:06,480 Speaker 3: Many people are emotionally constipated, still bad about mad about 280 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 3: something that happened in fifty six. How do you clean 281 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 3: that up? You brush your hair, you wash your hohuha, 282 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 3: you know, but you don't clean your spirit, your heart, 283 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 3: your mind. So spiritual hygiene is the daily practice of 284 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:26,320 Speaker 3: clearing your mind, your heart, your soul, your inner life, 285 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 3: so that your outer life can have a different appearance. 286 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 2: So what about the people who pray? 287 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 4: They go to therapy, they meditate, they sage, but they 288 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 4: still stay toxic, Like, what's the prayer? 289 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:41,080 Speaker 3: What is the prayer? Most people beg they don't pray, 290 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 3: you know, and all of that is good, But what's 291 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:50,280 Speaker 3: your relationship? What is your relationship with God's souls, creative 292 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 3: spirit of your understanding? What is your relationship? God doesn't 293 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 3: want your you know, tides and service only. What is 294 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 3: the relationship? And most people, many people, I won't say most, 295 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 3: I'll say many. Many people learn the function and the 296 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 3: doing of the prayer, but they don't have the presence 297 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 3: in the prayer. They don't have the relationship with the 298 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 3: very thing they're praying too why I didn't. I grew 299 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:22,159 Speaker 3: up in the church. You know, I'll tell you a 300 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 3: real funny story. They were trying to baptize me. I 301 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 3: must have been five or six in the Apostolic church. 302 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:34,680 Speaker 3: You know that's everything's a sin. Yes, rolling your lip 303 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:37,680 Speaker 3: is a sin. Anyway, they're getting ready to baptize me, 304 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:39,160 Speaker 3: and you know, they dunk you down in the water 305 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:41,800 Speaker 3: and stuff, and they say to me, will you take 306 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 3: do you accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and save you? 307 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 3: Now this is way back when, and that's how old 308 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:49,600 Speaker 3: I am. When Jesus was still on the cross with 309 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:53,200 Speaker 3: the little droplets of blood on his hands, I me, 310 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:55,960 Speaker 3: the brilliant child. I look up and not say who him? 311 00:17:56,960 --> 00:18:02,000 Speaker 3: He can't help know I got beat until tomorrow. You 312 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 3: can't help me because you know he's died off the cross. 313 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:14,640 Speaker 3: Now you don't see it. But we were fed religion, 314 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 3: we were told what to do. We weren't taught to 315 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:19,920 Speaker 3: build a relationship. And it took me a long time 316 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:23,119 Speaker 3: to know that it wasn't about the doing of it. 317 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 3: It was about the being in relationship, in the presence, 318 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 3: being present in the prayer, being still and knowing. 319 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 2: When did you learn to pray and big. 320 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:41,159 Speaker 3: When the beggan wasn't working, I just got tired of begging. 321 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:45,600 Speaker 3: And then I said, Okay, what am I doing wrong? 322 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:49,920 Speaker 3: I'm begging and you're not paying attention, and this is 323 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:54,639 Speaker 3: not the way God is supposed to respond. When I 324 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:59,879 Speaker 3: learned two things, how to be still and how to 325 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:04,920 Speaker 3: know how to be still within my mind, my heart 326 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:09,639 Speaker 3: spiritual hygiene, and how to know when I was in 327 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:13,760 Speaker 3: the presence, not when I was reaching out, but when 328 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 3: I was turning in, And that was it for me 329 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:19,160 Speaker 3: instead of going out going. 330 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:21,199 Speaker 2: We see a lot of. 331 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:25,160 Speaker 7: What are some of the preventative measures that you take 332 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 7: so you can you can actually grow grow up with 333 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:33,119 Speaker 7: these things, like like good spiritual hygiene, because a lot 334 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 7: of people would agree that bad spiritual hygiene is everywhere, 335 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 7: every waywhere. But if people knew how to you know, simple, simple, 336 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:47,160 Speaker 7: you know what I'm saying, Like how seven minutes three 337 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:50,400 Speaker 7: times a day for twenty one consecutive days, shut your mouth, 338 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 7: turn off everything, be still seven minutes three times a 339 00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 7: day for twenty one days. You know, many people would 340 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:02,200 Speaker 7: rather use their front teeth and shut their mouth and 341 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 7: get off the phone. That's right, Just to be still 342 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 7: because in the stillness, everything's going to rise to the surface. 343 00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:11,120 Speaker 7: You can journal it out, you can speak it out. 344 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:12,720 Speaker 7: You just become aware of it. 345 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:17,640 Speaker 3: Because the first step, the first foundational principle of spiritual hygiene, 346 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:21,720 Speaker 3: is self awareness. People don't know that their armpits think. 347 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:24,320 Speaker 3: They don't know that they talk too loud. They don't 348 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 3: know that. You know, people don't know nothing about theirself 349 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:32,119 Speaker 3: because they're looking for everybody else to tell them self awareness. 350 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:37,440 Speaker 3: Start there, seven minutes, three times a day, every day, 351 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 3: for twenty one consecutive days. It'll take you somewhere. 352 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:43,679 Speaker 4: Why do you think people are more committed to physical 353 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:46,320 Speaker 4: hygiene the spiritual hygiene because the spirit controls everything. 354 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:51,159 Speaker 3: Well, yeah, but again, most of us were religiousized. We 355 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:56,919 Speaker 3: weren't spiritualized, and so we want to intellectualize the spirit 356 00:20:57,359 --> 00:21:01,359 Speaker 3: as opposed to spiritualize in the intellect to go in 357 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:05,359 Speaker 3: there and get that up. And so we we we 358 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:10,720 Speaker 3: don't like everything else we're taught it's a doing. Hm. 359 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:14,359 Speaker 3: We know how to do spiritual things? Do we know 360 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:17,960 Speaker 3: how to be in the presence of spirit? You know 361 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 3: how to do that? And it's frightening. And the thing 362 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:24,320 Speaker 3: that frightens us more than anything else. I think in 363 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:27,120 Speaker 3: my years of working with people, it is their own 364 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:32,159 Speaker 3: spiritual power that I am ness. You know, we are 365 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 3: an eachness and the allness of God, and that eachness 366 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 3: is powerful. And people are so convinced that they're unworthy 367 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:43,120 Speaker 3: and less than till they have a difficult time embracing 368 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 3: and stepping into the power and the greatness. 369 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:47,680 Speaker 4: I wonder why, Like my daughter asked me that my 370 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:49,720 Speaker 4: daughter said to me, and my daughter said, Daddy, why 371 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:51,440 Speaker 4: do we pray but we don't go to church? 372 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 2: And I said, because we are Jehoa. 373 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 4: We believe in spirit, not really like you know, going 374 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:02,720 Speaker 4: to church to me as a religious practice, But we 375 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:04,679 Speaker 4: are people that believe in the spirit. 376 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:06,679 Speaker 3: But can I ask you a question, is it? Are 377 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:10,200 Speaker 3: you open to another possibility? Praying is going to church? 378 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:17,240 Speaker 3: Praying is going to church. You're going in the temple. No, 379 00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:20,480 Speaker 3: you're not. That you are a temple, that you are 380 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:22,920 Speaker 3: the temple of God. So praying is going to church. 381 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 3: Tell her that next time, WI, this is church. 382 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 2: Absolutely. 383 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 3: My uh, I'm grandmother ring now I'm raising my great grandson. 384 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:39,680 Speaker 3: That's why I look so young and fabulous. And and 385 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 3: we pray at night before we go to bed. So 386 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 3: one day he said, uh, yeah, yay, that's what he 387 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 3: calls me. Yeah, yeah, Exactly who is it that I'm 388 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:55,159 Speaker 3: praying to? And I said, you're higher self your I 389 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:59,719 Speaker 3: am that that thing that people call God. But it's 390 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:03,160 Speaker 3: not out there, it's in here. He said, where where 391 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:05,720 Speaker 3: is it? I said, it's in your heart, it's in 392 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:09,640 Speaker 3: your soul, it's in your DNA, it's in your bone mouth. 393 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:14,920 Speaker 3: So you know, that's how I'm teaching him. Nobody taught 394 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:17,000 Speaker 3: me that. They taught me the guy up on the 395 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:19,920 Speaker 3: cross with the little droplets of blood. And when I 396 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:21,960 Speaker 3: said to them, you know him, he can't help me, 397 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 3: how's he gonna help me? And I got beat? Ooh 398 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:28,600 Speaker 3: that was I just remember, I'm being traumatized right now. 399 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:32,879 Speaker 3: I'm having trauma memory. 400 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:35,720 Speaker 6: But in moments like that, right with your great grandson, 401 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 6: because then he'll grow up, he'll go through life. But 402 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:40,520 Speaker 6: you talk about in your book, like even like ancestral 403 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:42,359 Speaker 6: trauma being a part of things that you got to 404 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:45,080 Speaker 6: like cleanse from. When you're young, you don't even know 405 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:48,119 Speaker 6: what you're feeling. Even sometimes when you're grown, if you 406 00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:51,119 Speaker 6: don't have certain experiences or pay attention. So how do 407 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 6: you keep cleansing your spirit or yourself, because at each 408 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:57,960 Speaker 6: level of life things hit you different. 409 00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 3: Well, he is a motionly literate he will be an 410 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:06,960 Speaker 3: emotionally literate black man. Because I recognized I was raising 411 00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:10,240 Speaker 3: somebody's father and somebody's husband. I wanted him to be 412 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:13,480 Speaker 3: emotionally literate. I wasn't raised that way. So he knows 413 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:17,400 Speaker 3: the distinction between frustration and anxiety. He knows when he's sad, 414 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 3: he knows when he's happy, he knows when he's frustrated. 415 00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:23,920 Speaker 3: Why because I taught him how to do that. Most 416 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:32,359 Speaker 3: of us are, many adults are emotionally illiterate. We know happy, sad, good, bad, right, wrong. 417 00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:37,159 Speaker 3: We don't know frustration, disappointment, exhilaration, bliss. Some of us 418 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:40,840 Speaker 3: don't even know peace or joy. So it's up to 419 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:45,640 Speaker 3: you do your work. That's your spiritual hygiene. In those 420 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:50,800 Speaker 3: seven minutes, three times a day, for twenty one consecutive days, 421 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:54,240 Speaker 3: call forth joy. What does joy feel like in my body? 422 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:58,840 Speaker 3: What does peace feel like in my body? What does 423 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 3: we're in my body? Is disappointment? The body is a 424 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:06,880 Speaker 3: living organism. Talk to it. It will respond. Yeah. 425 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:11,240 Speaker 1: I want to ask you know in this generation. Sometimes 426 00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:12,680 Speaker 1: I feel like which one? 427 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:14,080 Speaker 3: Because I spend many. 428 00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 1: This generation. I would say from I would say maybe 429 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 1: from ten to twenty five. Let's talk there, Okay. I 430 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:27,240 Speaker 1: feel like sometimes talking hard to them. It's they don't 431 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:29,240 Speaker 1: understand it, nor do they get it right. It feels 432 00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:31,639 Speaker 1: they feel a lot differently. When I see some of 433 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:35,360 Speaker 1: your past shows and your new shows. You talk hard 434 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:38,040 Speaker 1: to people, you talk real to people. Do you feel 435 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 1: like the new generation is too emotional or too soft 436 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:44,080 Speaker 1: when it comes to seeing things at face value? 437 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:46,520 Speaker 6: Think you can add us in there too. The people 438 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 6: in their thirties too. I think you can add us 439 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:48,159 Speaker 6: in that. 440 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 3: Well, you know what, because nobody told them the truth. 441 00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:56,119 Speaker 3: They talked at them, not with them. Talk with somebody. 442 00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:59,720 Speaker 3: The greatest skiff we have is a conversation. Most people 443 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:02,320 Speaker 3: don't know how to have one. But when you're going 444 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:05,280 Speaker 3: into somebody telling them what they did wrong, what's wrong 445 00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:08,440 Speaker 3: with them, asking them why they do that? Come here, baby, 446 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 3: come in, sit right here, put that down, stop it, 447 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:16,320 Speaker 3: you know, be present. One of the reasons in young 448 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 3: people today, and I would say ten and up are 449 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:24,760 Speaker 3: so emotionally disconnected is because nobody's present with them. They 450 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:27,480 Speaker 3: sit in the back of the car, on the device, 451 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:30,639 Speaker 3: looking at the back of someone's head who's on the device. 452 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:34,720 Speaker 3: Many of them don't eat at a table. They don't 453 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:37,879 Speaker 3: know how to set a table. They eat out of 454 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 3: a styrofoam box, on their lap or in a car. 455 00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:44,720 Speaker 3: So some of the things that kept us grounded and 456 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:48,879 Speaker 3: human and connected, we've given them out. You know, a 457 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:51,560 Speaker 3: lot of them can't cook. I've met a twenty three 458 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:54,719 Speaker 3: year old who he can't cook. I said, well, how 459 00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:58,040 Speaker 3: do you eat? Uber eats? What is not a recipe? 460 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:02,520 Speaker 2: Right, But it's like that. 461 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:05,159 Speaker 1: Not on my watch, you be human resources. Not on 462 00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:07,560 Speaker 1: my watch, you teach it, you be at the principal's office. 463 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:10,120 Speaker 1: But those are the things that my teacher said. 464 00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:12,399 Speaker 3: I wouldn't do that to a ten year old. I 465 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:14,680 Speaker 3: wouldn't do that to the I did that to those 466 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:19,399 Speaker 3: disrespectful women because I those were my lady balls. Let 467 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:22,720 Speaker 3: me set this standard right here. Not on my watch. 468 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:25,280 Speaker 3: People will say that. They don't say the next part, 469 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:30,240 Speaker 3: will you disrespect another woman? They don't say that part. 470 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:33,359 Speaker 3: They just get on the Not on my way, am 471 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 3: I putting all these little greasy fingers. 472 00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:40,720 Speaker 2: Okay, don't worry about don't even worry about. Don't worry 473 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 2: about I don't even worry about it. 474 00:27:52,240 --> 00:28:02,120 Speaker 3: They're not smiling, but we I wouldn't talk to them 475 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:07,200 Speaker 3: like that. You know, those women were conscious and intentional 476 00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:11,560 Speaker 3: in their maliciousness, and I was not going to accommodate it. 477 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:15,680 Speaker 3: Sometimes you have to tell the truth in this way, 478 00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:18,399 Speaker 3: and sometimes it has to be cold water in your face. 479 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:20,560 Speaker 3: Sometimes it just has. 480 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:23,280 Speaker 4: To be who holds you accountable, when when your hygiene 481 00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:25,240 Speaker 4: is off, when when your spiritual hygiene is I'll. 482 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:28,120 Speaker 3: Have a whole team of people. They oh, hell yeah, 483 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:31,439 Speaker 3: this is how they say it. Mama, I don't mean 484 00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:34,480 Speaker 3: no harm or what I've taught them to do is 485 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:37,280 Speaker 3: to ask me for a hall pass. Because I'm the 486 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 3: elder in the circle. You know, I have a whole school. 487 00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:42,640 Speaker 3: I have a whole school. I have students, I have graduates, 488 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:46,760 Speaker 3: I have ministers, coaches, and so I say, listen, don't 489 00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:52,280 Speaker 3: let me die. If you see me running out in 490 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 3: traffic with you know, toilet paper on my shoe, don't 491 00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 3: let me die. Tell me the truth. So they'll ask 492 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 3: me for a hall pass. You know, when a hall pass, 493 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:05,560 Speaker 3: you could go anywhere. I did, Mama need a hall 494 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:08,120 Speaker 3: pass Okay, let me get the brown liquor, get it, 495 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:13,880 Speaker 3: and then they'll tell me the truth. And because they 496 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:18,320 Speaker 3: love me, I can hear it. And it's nothing worse 497 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:21,160 Speaker 3: than to treat somebody how to be and then they 498 00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 3: correct you when you ain't being that way. I love it. 499 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:29,960 Speaker 4: How do we tell the difference between protecting our peace 500 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:31,920 Speaker 4: and avoiding accountability? 501 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:39,840 Speaker 3: Ah? Good question, Yeah, integrity to tell the truth about it. 502 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:45,160 Speaker 3: Tell the truth because you know when you're avoiding, or 503 00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:47,800 Speaker 3: you know when you're afraid, or you know when you're 504 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:51,360 Speaker 3: denying or projecting. You know, you know, I don't have 505 00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:54,480 Speaker 3: to ask you, you know, tell the truth about it. 506 00:29:55,440 --> 00:30:00,760 Speaker 3: And protecting your peace or creating a boundary looks and 507 00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:05,480 Speaker 3: feels very different than erecting a wall. And sometimes people 508 00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:10,040 Speaker 3: erect walls and call it a boundary. No. No, A 509 00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:13,239 Speaker 3: boundary is built to keep you safe as you let 510 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:17,040 Speaker 3: other people in. If your wall is up, you're holding 511 00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:21,320 Speaker 3: people out. You can create a boundary. This is what 512 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:24,040 Speaker 3: I need you to do because I want to be 513 00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:28,360 Speaker 3: peaceful in our connection. That's a boundary. Well, this is 514 00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:30,560 Speaker 3: what I'm gonna ask you not to do so we 515 00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:34,560 Speaker 3: can be peaceful in our connection. That's a boundary. No, 516 00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:36,760 Speaker 3: you can't come up in here with that. That's a wall. 517 00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:38,920 Speaker 3: That's a wall. 518 00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:41,240 Speaker 6: I saw you just sit down with Oprah and you 519 00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:44,480 Speaker 6: talked about your decision not to go to your daughter's funeral. Yeah, 520 00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:46,920 Speaker 6: and you kind of put up your boundaries just because 521 00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:49,560 Speaker 6: of some of the things that was happening within your family, well. 522 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:53,160 Speaker 3: Not to family with one particular grandson, her youngest son, 523 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:56,960 Speaker 3: who was just out of his mind. And I know 524 00:30:57,080 --> 00:31:00,520 Speaker 3: it was grief, but I wasn't gonna put myself jeopardy. 525 00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:03,800 Speaker 3: I wasn't going to give him the opportunity to disrespect 526 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:08,360 Speaker 3: his mother by disrespecting her mother. And I didn't know 527 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:11,120 Speaker 3: what he might do, but I was a trigger for him. 528 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:13,440 Speaker 3: I knew I was a trigger for him, and I 529 00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:14,680 Speaker 3: had to tell the truth about that. 530 00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:15,880 Speaker 1: How difficult was that for you? 531 00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:21,360 Speaker 3: Well, once I made the decision, because I made it 532 00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:25,040 Speaker 3: from a place of love and care, I was okay 533 00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:27,520 Speaker 3: with it. So I didn't have to go to the funeral. 534 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:31,240 Speaker 3: I went the day before and I had my own 535 00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:34,920 Speaker 3: thing with her. She was still gonna be dead the 536 00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:38,400 Speaker 3: next day. I didn't have to be there. You understand 537 00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:41,920 Speaker 3: the things that we do out of tradition out of 538 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:45,360 Speaker 3: habit that we don't even want to do. I'm not 539 00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:48,680 Speaker 3: doing that. I'm too old and I don't have wrinkles yet, 540 00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:50,320 Speaker 3: so I don't want wrinkles. 541 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:53,040 Speaker 2: I don't, do you know what I mean? 542 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:55,720 Speaker 4: For the same reason that you just said, right like, 543 00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:58,600 Speaker 4: I want to remember the person the last time I 544 00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:00,280 Speaker 4: saw him. I don't want to remember him in the casket. 545 00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:03,280 Speaker 4: Do you feel like funerals are necessary for the grieving process. 546 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:08,960 Speaker 3: If we, as people of color, we're doing our traditional 547 00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:13,320 Speaker 3: burial rights. Oh yes, I think it's very necessary to 548 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:16,360 Speaker 3: lay that spirit to rest, to make sure that we're 549 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:20,160 Speaker 3: lifting that spirit and light. That's a very different thing. 550 00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:24,320 Speaker 3: Burial rights are very different than a funeral. Can I 551 00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:27,160 Speaker 3: tell you something. This is gonna sound totally disgusting, but 552 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:30,920 Speaker 3: I'm gonna say it. Okay, I bought my casket. My 553 00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:41,680 Speaker 3: casket is bought. It's on not on layaway, lay away. 554 00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:44,680 Speaker 3: I'm playing it off, but it's bought. Let me tell 555 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:45,920 Speaker 3: you why I bought. 556 00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:46,920 Speaker 1: My two me and my wife we bought. 557 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:47,680 Speaker 5: I was you bought it? 558 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:50,440 Speaker 3: And was it like twenty seven hundred dollars twenty eight 559 00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:51,280 Speaker 3: hundred dollars. 560 00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:51,600 Speaker 1: More than that? 561 00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:52,280 Speaker 2: But yeah, I did. 562 00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:53,760 Speaker 1: But the reason I did because I didn't want that. 563 00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:54,680 Speaker 2: I didn't. 564 00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:56,320 Speaker 1: That's one thing I didn't want my kids to have 565 00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:57,600 Speaker 1: to worry think about. 566 00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:00,280 Speaker 3: I didn't either. And also when I I had to 567 00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:03,560 Speaker 3: bury my daughter and they charged me ten thousand dollars 568 00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:07,560 Speaker 3: for a casket, and I discovered that from the manufacture 569 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:09,720 Speaker 3: it was twenty three hundred. I said, let me go 570 00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:11,640 Speaker 3: down here and get me a casket. So I went 571 00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:14,440 Speaker 3: down and bought my casket and paid for it exactly 572 00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:17,959 Speaker 3: what I want. And when I'm not here anymore, all 573 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:19,600 Speaker 3: they have to do is call, they'll deliver it in 574 00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:20,480 Speaker 3: twenty four hours. 575 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:22,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I got it in will to get cremated. 576 00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:25,720 Speaker 4: You cremated and throw my ashes somewhere because you gotta 577 00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:28,880 Speaker 4: think about it in one hundred years be arounded. 578 00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:32,120 Speaker 3: That is you. Yeah, I can understand that. I don't 579 00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:33,640 Speaker 3: particularly want to be cremated. 580 00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:35,600 Speaker 6: How did your family feel about that? Like your wife 581 00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:36,400 Speaker 6: and your kids. 582 00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:42,479 Speaker 7: My thing is like, if you buy a casket too early, right, 583 00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:45,480 Speaker 7: and then you know what, if you're skinny when you buy, 584 00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:46,600 Speaker 7: then you die big. 585 00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:48,640 Speaker 5: It's like, damn, you still have to pay for them? 586 00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:51,360 Speaker 3: Then no, you they'll just take a little of the 587 00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:56,120 Speaker 3: padding out. But I want to go back to you 588 00:33:56,240 --> 00:34:00,960 Speaker 3: with this funeral, because the funeral is it really should 589 00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:04,640 Speaker 3: be a celebration of the life, and it's turned into 590 00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:09,279 Speaker 3: this whole money making thing and it's the hole in 591 00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:12,920 Speaker 3: the ground. It's fifteen hundred dollars or more. Now. So 592 00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:15,880 Speaker 3: what I say is, if we're going to celebrate the 593 00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:18,280 Speaker 3: person's life, and if we're going to do the rights. 594 00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:22,800 Speaker 3: For example, in my lineage and my tradition as a Uropa, 595 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:27,000 Speaker 3: we once the person makes transition, we do a nine 596 00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:31,160 Speaker 3: day prayer process, a forty day prayer process, and in 597 00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:34,400 Speaker 3: a one year prayer process to make sure that spirit 598 00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:37,720 Speaker 3: is lifted and elevated. As a as a two slaky 599 00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:42,160 Speaker 3: Cherokee or I walk in the nation of the Lakota people, 600 00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:47,040 Speaker 3: they plan their funeral and they are cremated, many of them. 601 00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:48,840 Speaker 3: They don't go into ground. They go back to the 602 00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:53,200 Speaker 3: earth and they're singing and dance. There's a whole celebration 603 00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:56,759 Speaker 3: that doesn't have And we do have food because I 604 00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:59,800 Speaker 3: will say that funeral chicken is some of the best chicken. 605 00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:11,120 Speaker 3: And so if we're going to do that, then let's 606 00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:13,840 Speaker 3: do that. But just to sit around and weep, and 607 00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:17,640 Speaker 3: you know, make ourselves crazy, and so many people get 608 00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:22,440 Speaker 3: stuck in the morning bad spiritual hygiene. Grieving is natural, 609 00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:26,400 Speaker 3: and I talk about grieving as a teacher and an 610 00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:33,480 Speaker 3: initiation in the book Morning is Bad Spiritual Hygiene, Morning 611 00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:39,880 Speaker 3: says that there's regret, there's remorse. That morning is the 612 00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:42,960 Speaker 3: process of because this happened, or I lost this, or 613 00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:47,279 Speaker 3: this person isn't here, this part of me can no 614 00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:51,759 Speaker 3: longer go on. Like when I lost my first daughter, 615 00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:55,160 Speaker 3: I lost my mind. But with my second daughter, I 616 00:35:55,280 --> 00:36:00,279 Speaker 3: didn't have the same feeling heaviness, and I didn't have 617 00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:03,239 Speaker 3: that because I knew it was coming and I was 618 00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:07,520 Speaker 3: prepared for it. And I can remember the days when 619 00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:14,200 Speaker 3: I felt bad about feeling good. People think, because someone dies, 620 00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:18,320 Speaker 3: you gotta feel bad, And I would catch myself feeling 621 00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:24,880 Speaker 3: bad about feeling good. Bad spiritual hygiene. That's mourning. Feeling 622 00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:28,800 Speaker 3: bad and believing that your life can't go on, or 623 00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:32,160 Speaker 3: you have resent or you resentment or remorse, or because 624 00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:34,160 Speaker 3: this happened, you can't do that, or you should have 625 00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:35,720 Speaker 3: done this. That's mourning. 626 00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:37,719 Speaker 2: Think that part of the grief process, though. 627 00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:39,760 Speaker 3: It is a part of the process, but it happens 628 00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:44,680 Speaker 3: organically and it passes. You know, it takes different amount 629 00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:47,600 Speaker 3: of time for everybody. But when I'll never love again, 630 00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:51,160 Speaker 3: my life is over. I'm going out need some worms. 631 00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:53,239 Speaker 3: That's mourning. That's a different thing. 632 00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:55,960 Speaker 4: You talk about unresolved grief living in the body the 633 00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:57,560 Speaker 4: same way bacteria lives in the mouth. 634 00:36:58,000 --> 00:36:59,640 Speaker 2: What's the daily practice to clean it up? 635 00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:07,800 Speaker 3: Acknowledgy, acknowledging. You know, when you feel it, ask and again. 636 00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:11,800 Speaker 3: Building that relationship with the body. Part of spiritual hygiene 637 00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:15,520 Speaker 3: is somatic. You know, like we have a body, there's 638 00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:19,480 Speaker 3: a distinction between the physical body and the somatic body. 639 00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:22,719 Speaker 3: The somatic body is the energy and the feeling in 640 00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:25,840 Speaker 3: the body. So we'll walk around and we know we 641 00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:28,680 Speaker 3: have a physical body. Oh this pain, that leg, that, 642 00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:31,399 Speaker 3: But what is the feeling in there? Okay, your knee 643 00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:35,680 Speaker 3: is hurting? Okay, what's happened to me? What are you 644 00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:40,239 Speaker 3: doing here? So part of grief has to be somatic, 645 00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:43,320 Speaker 3: and people will grieve and get in the bed and 646 00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:46,200 Speaker 3: stay there. You can be in the bed, but then 647 00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:49,680 Speaker 3: get up and stretch, get up and move. Where is 648 00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:52,719 Speaker 3: the grief in your body? You know, the grief for 649 00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:57,839 Speaker 3: my babies, my daughters. It's in my heart and where 650 00:37:57,840 --> 00:37:59,520 Speaker 3: it used to be in the center, now it's just 651 00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:03,920 Speaker 3: around the edges, and sometimes it comes up. My oldest 652 00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:08,279 Speaker 3: daughter died on Christmas Day, so I've turned Christmas into 653 00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:12,800 Speaker 3: a whole thing. It was her favorite holiday. So Christmas 654 00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:14,839 Speaker 3: for me is not a day of morning. It's all 655 00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:17,279 Speaker 3: we haven't for I will have a tree if I 656 00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:19,759 Speaker 3: got to go out and cut it down myself, you know, 657 00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:24,040 Speaker 3: because that grief is there, but it's there in celebration, 658 00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:29,480 Speaker 3: not in mourning and remorse. So get in the body 659 00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:34,479 Speaker 3: where's everybody has grief about loss of something, something didn't 660 00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:38,160 Speaker 3: go right? But do you are you in relationship with it? 661 00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:40,839 Speaker 3: Where is it? So it'll show up and now you'll 662 00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:45,600 Speaker 3: be cussing out the uber driver. No, that maybe grief 663 00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:48,840 Speaker 3: that was unexpressed and it's in the body. Get in 664 00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:50,080 Speaker 3: there and find out where it is. 665 00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:54,839 Speaker 7: Have you ever had a case right where you say 666 00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:57,680 Speaker 7: these people won't needy more than me. I don't think 667 00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:00,919 Speaker 7: I can't you know what I'm saying, Like, like after 668 00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:04,680 Speaker 7: you've helped them and they went on, did you ever say, 669 00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:06,400 Speaker 7: like I need to check on these. 670 00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:10,000 Speaker 5: People or maybe they need something far beyond what I 671 00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:10,360 Speaker 5: can do. 672 00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:12,399 Speaker 3: My own self. 673 00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:13,000 Speaker 1: No, I'm sorry. 674 00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:19,840 Speaker 3: See it's hard to answer that question because I don't 675 00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:26,160 Speaker 3: have cases. I have assignments. Gotcha, have you? 676 00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:27,759 Speaker 2: Assignment never been too great? You ever said you know 677 00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:28,160 Speaker 2: what you need to. 678 00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:38,080 Speaker 3: Jesus, it has felt that way. And then when I 679 00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:41,160 Speaker 3: get still and go within and to get the same 680 00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:44,320 Speaker 3: guidance that sent the people to me is the guidance 681 00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:46,240 Speaker 3: I get to find out what to do, it always 682 00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:50,279 Speaker 3: works out because I'm not attached to the outcome. I'm 683 00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:54,080 Speaker 3: really not. I'm really not attached to the outcome. I'm 684 00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:56,759 Speaker 3: sending to do what I do, and I do what 685 00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:59,120 Speaker 3: I do. What you do when it is your business. 686 00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:02,759 Speaker 3: You know, you've seen the show. There were some people 687 00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:06,439 Speaker 3: who fought me all the way. The poor little child 688 00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:09,000 Speaker 3: that ran out and left, and didn't you know she 689 00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:10,759 Speaker 3: wanted to beat me up. She told me she was 690 00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:13,320 Speaker 3: gonna cut me, and I was like, my son was 691 00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:15,399 Speaker 3: there and he would have cut her, and that would 692 00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:16,239 Speaker 3: have just went the whole thing. 693 00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:17,239 Speaker 5: So I figured. 694 00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:22,520 Speaker 3: To just let her go. I've had guests walk out 695 00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:27,239 Speaker 3: OUTTHEA from Love and Hip Hop and she left. I 696 00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:30,360 Speaker 3: had another couple, Uh, they said they didn't trust me, 697 00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:32,839 Speaker 3: I left. You don't trust me. I'm out. There's nothing 698 00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:36,680 Speaker 3: we're gonna do here. I'm not attached to the outcome. 699 00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:39,160 Speaker 3: I'm attached to the process. 700 00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:40,120 Speaker 5: I think. 701 00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:43,759 Speaker 7: I think your work has gotten us attached to the 702 00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:47,640 Speaker 7: outcome so far, too many times I've seen. And that's 703 00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:50,000 Speaker 7: also why I loved watching a show as well, because 704 00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:56,040 Speaker 7: I really love you a person. Oh, let me shopping shopping, 705 00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:02,560 Speaker 7: it's this lovely bout your not cover my lady balls. 706 00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:12,920 Speaker 3: It did developments. I got all the number of times 707 00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:17,080 Speaker 3: I went upstairs and forgot what I was doing, and I, yeah, 708 00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:17,759 Speaker 3: that's a dh. 709 00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:21,920 Speaker 6: I'm sorry, color got you left right up there. 710 00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:22,680 Speaker 3: That's all right. 711 00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:24,239 Speaker 7: But the reason why I asked her is because Kevin 712 00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:27,280 Speaker 7: McCall I was watching that. That's something that I remembered. 713 00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:29,879 Speaker 7: And I had no idea that he had had. 714 00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:30,520 Speaker 5: All we saw. 715 00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:33,920 Speaker 7: All we see is Kevin's antics then and now right. 716 00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:36,360 Speaker 7: But I had no idea that it was attached to 717 00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:39,160 Speaker 7: his upbringing. You know, you had it, you were You 718 00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:41,480 Speaker 7: got him to reveal some things about his upbringing, that 719 00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:43,680 Speaker 7: his mom she wasn't the best mom, and how she 720 00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:47,480 Speaker 7: was there not trying to take accountability either, and that's why. 721 00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:50,359 Speaker 7: And when he'll go do her for a while, then 722 00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:53,279 Speaker 7: it will come back and it's more antics. And that 723 00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:55,520 Speaker 7: made me think of I'm like, damn, well, I need 724 00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:57,879 Speaker 7: to call y'all to see and talk to him again, 725 00:41:58,120 --> 00:41:59,640 Speaker 7: you know what I mean, Like, that's why I asked you. 726 00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:04,640 Speaker 7: You ever after helping somebody say, look, they need something 727 00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:06,560 Speaker 7: far more than me or do are you attached to 728 00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:07,160 Speaker 7: the alchemist? 729 00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:10,160 Speaker 3: I'm not. And he got what he came to get. 730 00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:13,280 Speaker 3: It's up to him to use it. That's his spiritual hygiene. 731 00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:16,600 Speaker 3: Like you go to the dentist, they fill your cavity. 732 00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:19,720 Speaker 3: But if you now then go eat fifty five pounds 733 00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:22,600 Speaker 3: of gummy bears, or when you have a temporary filling 734 00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:26,600 Speaker 3: and you're trying to you know, eat popcorn, that's a problem. 735 00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:30,000 Speaker 3: So in the same way with God source creator, he 736 00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:33,399 Speaker 3: can only do so much. It can only do so much, 737 00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:36,440 Speaker 3: and then the rest of it is on us. That's 738 00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:40,040 Speaker 3: why it's the inside fix. We could only do so much. 739 00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:43,880 Speaker 3: Kevin got and every single one of my guests that 740 00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:47,120 Speaker 3: was on that show, you know, I'm so grateful to 741 00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:51,040 Speaker 3: them because the show really wasn't for them. The show 742 00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:54,520 Speaker 3: was for the viewers, and I told them that I 743 00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:56,239 Speaker 3: would tell them that I want to be real clear, 744 00:42:56,480 --> 00:43:01,360 Speaker 3: this ain't even about you. You were chosen, left guided 745 00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:05,799 Speaker 3: to be a demonstration, and how you show up it's 746 00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:07,359 Speaker 3: not only going to help you, it's going to help 747 00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:08,719 Speaker 3: the fews. We told you that. 748 00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:11,359 Speaker 6: I remember you did the you had the really big 749 00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:14,200 Speaker 6: daddy list daughter segments that you would do and you 750 00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:16,160 Speaker 6: would talk about the uns like the things that they 751 00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:17,480 Speaker 6: need to like or the words they need to know, 752 00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:20,360 Speaker 6: like Daddy's gone, and just the reality of like moving 753 00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:24,200 Speaker 6: forward from and I remember that my trigger. But I 754 00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:25,879 Speaker 6: used to watch the show because me and my dad 755 00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:27,600 Speaker 6: at that time, it was like early on in us 756 00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:30,520 Speaker 6: trying to figure out, Okay, he's new back into my life, 757 00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:32,480 Speaker 6: how do I feel? Do I have questions? And I 758 00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:35,440 Speaker 6: got to a point where I was like, all right, 759 00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:37,239 Speaker 6: you weren't here. Here's where my life is. Like I 760 00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:38,960 Speaker 6: don't want to be a victim or like a product 761 00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:39,239 Speaker 6: of that. 762 00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:43,040 Speaker 2: I just want to make sure she understands. 763 00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:46,759 Speaker 6: But you're a serious Your series helped me though, because 764 00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:48,080 Speaker 6: my mom was one of those people that was like 765 00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:51,200 Speaker 6: very like she just acts like it didn't happen. You 766 00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:54,359 Speaker 6: were you acknowledged that it happened, but you didn't let 767 00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:57,560 Speaker 6: people live in it. So it helped me to realize, like, Okay, 768 00:43:57,880 --> 00:43:59,600 Speaker 6: what are we going to do here, Like what are 769 00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:01,319 Speaker 6: we going to do with the relationship or what are 770 00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:03,480 Speaker 6: we gonna do with yourself? And how you feel about that? 771 00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:07,080 Speaker 6: And if it's not accepted from him or responded to 772 00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:09,080 Speaker 6: him the way you want, you just you can only 773 00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:10,400 Speaker 6: control yourself, yeah. 774 00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:13,439 Speaker 3: Because you get to choose and he gets to choose. 775 00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:15,560 Speaker 3: And sometimes the shame of it, the guilt of it, 776 00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:20,080 Speaker 3: A lot of dads, moms, people can't show up. Husbands 777 00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:22,320 Speaker 3: who cheat come back and they can never get it together, 778 00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:25,640 Speaker 3: or wives because did you know wives were cheating? 779 00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:32,640 Speaker 2: Yes, black men don't cheat, but boy, what women's. 780 00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:40,520 Speaker 3: Exactly? Yeah. But you know, my my hope, my prayer, 781 00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:45,880 Speaker 3: and I appreciate so many people are so excited about 782 00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:50,000 Speaker 3: the show, about the book, and may my legacy be 783 00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:53,520 Speaker 3: if nothing else, that I gave people skills and tools 784 00:44:54,239 --> 00:45:01,160 Speaker 3: to take responsibility for themselves because the world we're in 785 00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:04,160 Speaker 3: right now, the mess that we're in, is because we 786 00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:08,560 Speaker 3: were anticipating somebody else doing for us what we needed 787 00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:12,200 Speaker 3: to do for ourselves, and so we got to do 788 00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:13,759 Speaker 3: the work. You have to do your work. 789 00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:15,839 Speaker 2: Accountability is a hard concept for a lot of people 790 00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:16,200 Speaker 2: to grasp. 791 00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:26,759 Speaker 3: Awareness, accountability, and integrity. Integrity where your mind, your heart, 792 00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:32,120 Speaker 3: and what you do are all aligned. Very often people 793 00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:35,640 Speaker 3: think one thing, feels something and do something else. Get 794 00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:41,480 Speaker 3: an integrity, line it up and be willing to piss 795 00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:49,400 Speaker 3: people off to maintain your own integrity. Honor yourself. Don't 796 00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:53,040 Speaker 3: dim your light. Don't set yourself on fire to keep 797 00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:58,520 Speaker 3: other people warm. Don't dim your light like that. Take 798 00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:02,080 Speaker 3: responsibility and embrace everybody in the process. 799 00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:04,799 Speaker 2: I got a couple more questions. You always say healing 800 00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:05,400 Speaker 2: isn't pretty. 801 00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:10,080 Speaker 4: Why do people romanticize spirituality but reject the mess that's 802 00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:11,680 Speaker 4: required to actually. 803 00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:17,840 Speaker 3: Evolve, intellectualizing the spirit like people think spiritual people shouldn't 804 00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:22,160 Speaker 3: get angry. I'm from Brooklyn. I don't get angry. I 805 00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:26,360 Speaker 3: get pissed the f off, and I'm coming for you. Okay, 806 00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:28,560 Speaker 3: I'm all right, you know what I'm talking about. I 807 00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:31,480 Speaker 3: grew up with the bodega on the corner. Okay, So 808 00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:38,359 Speaker 3: I just don't do that. I'm responsible for myself when 809 00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:40,759 Speaker 3: I do it, If I do it, and I don't 810 00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:43,600 Speaker 3: stay stuck there, and that's not going to become an 811 00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:47,040 Speaker 3: identity for me. Let me see you abuse a child, 812 00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:51,800 Speaker 3: I'm coming for you, all guns drawn, cussing like a 813 00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:54,520 Speaker 3: sailor and hit you in your head, punch you right 814 00:46:54,560 --> 00:47:01,080 Speaker 3: in your throat, disrespect the woman in my press. I'm 815 00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:05,360 Speaker 3: coming for you, you know. So, even though I'm a 816 00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:09,240 Speaker 3: deeply spiritual person, there's sometimes when you have to again 817 00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:12,320 Speaker 3: throw cold water in somebody's face. But people want to 818 00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:17,399 Speaker 3: intellectualize spirituality. Oh, you have to be kind and loving, yes, 819 00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:22,040 Speaker 3: you do all that, but sometimes you are human and 820 00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:29,799 Speaker 3: it's okay. In terms of it being healing. Not being 821 00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:34,000 Speaker 3: pretty is because most of us are not aware of 822 00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:38,080 Speaker 3: the depth of healing that is required. We're not aware. 823 00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:42,000 Speaker 3: We think it's just if he would behave or if 824 00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:44,200 Speaker 3: they would come back, or if they would say I'm sorry, 825 00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:46,960 Speaker 3: that it would be okay. It's so much deeper than 826 00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:50,840 Speaker 3: so much deeper, and most people are afraid to go in. 827 00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:54,279 Speaker 3: And when I say most people, I'm not generalizing. I'm 828 00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:56,200 Speaker 3: speaking about it in terms of the years that I've 829 00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:58,759 Speaker 3: been doing this work and what I've seen, what I've 830 00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:02,000 Speaker 3: seen want to go with that, don't want to look 831 00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:04,560 Speaker 3: it with that don't want to do the spiritual hygiene. 832 00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:08,360 Speaker 4: No, no, no, is there a difference between being spiritually 833 00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:12,239 Speaker 4: spiritually clean and being spiritually sterile? And what I mean 834 00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:15,759 Speaker 4: by that, can we ever oversanitize ourselves out of just 835 00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:16,520 Speaker 4: human connection? 836 00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:23,560 Speaker 3: Not that I don't know. Spiritually clean, you you're still 837 00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:27,960 Speaker 3: among everybody. If you're not connected, then you're not spiritual 838 00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:32,160 Speaker 3: at all. Because the deepest part of spirituality is connected. 839 00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:35,839 Speaker 3: So I don't know about spiritually sterile. Let me write 840 00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:38,480 Speaker 3: that down, because you know, I forget. 841 00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:42,680 Speaker 4: Some people try to, like you said, they try to 842 00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:45,719 Speaker 4: set so many boundaries, and they intellectualized spirituality to think 843 00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:47,759 Speaker 4: that they got to be away from people and be 844 00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:48,560 Speaker 4: apart from people. 845 00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:50,640 Speaker 2: That to me, that's not but some of them do. 846 00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:53,520 Speaker 3: I mean, look at the monks. Some of them, that's 847 00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:55,799 Speaker 3: their mission, that's their ministry, that's what they do. They 848 00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:59,239 Speaker 3: go out there. I'm not on that committee. I'm not 849 00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:01,840 Speaker 3: on that committee. I'm I'm on the people committee. But 850 00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:07,040 Speaker 3: but spiritually sterile, I don't know. That's a good Thank 851 00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:09,520 Speaker 3: you for that. That'll be my next book. 852 00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:12,520 Speaker 2: I love spiritual hygiene. Mana. 853 00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:15,080 Speaker 4: There's a rapper named Dgola and he had a song, 854 00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:17,239 Speaker 4: and I call it a Negro spiritual call. 855 00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:18,040 Speaker 2: Ain't gonna let up. 856 00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:20,680 Speaker 4: And in the song he said, nigga, get yourself together, 857 00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:23,480 Speaker 4: go get your brain a bath, go to church, start listening, 858 00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:24,920 Speaker 4: get on the right path. 859 00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:28,680 Speaker 2: Spiritual hygiene. 860 00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:34,680 Speaker 3: And you know, I'm really for me. The greatest thing 861 00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:40,959 Speaker 3: was to see how far I've come, because I wasn't 862 00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:45,560 Speaker 3: spiritually clean. I wasn't And to see how far I've 863 00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:49,440 Speaker 3: come and look at the experiences that I've had, the divorce, 864 00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:54,200 Speaker 3: the death of my partner, my my losing two daughters, 865 00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:56,560 Speaker 3: you know, all of it, all of it. And to 866 00:49:56,680 --> 00:50:00,200 Speaker 3: see how far I've come. You know, you can't all 867 00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:05,520 Speaker 3: off the floor. So I was on the floor. So 868 00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:08,879 Speaker 3: to see how far I've come from how far down 869 00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:14,479 Speaker 3: I was, it's humbling. It's really humbling because millions didn't 870 00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:14,800 Speaker 3: make it. 871 00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:18,600 Speaker 2: I know that defin make you question your own mortality. 872 00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:23,600 Speaker 3: Well, I've decided I'm going to stay here till I'm 873 00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:27,400 Speaker 3: one hundred and two, and I'll still be walking in 874 00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:31,480 Speaker 3: my low heels. I got on low heels now because 875 00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:34,000 Speaker 3: I do believe we get to choose, I really do. 876 00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:36,120 Speaker 3: I said onundred and one, Yeah, I'm gonna do one 877 00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:38,480 Speaker 3: hundred and two and I'm gonna go to bed and 878 00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:40,800 Speaker 3: I'm just not gonna wake up. I just have to 879 00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:48,080 Speaker 3: remember to put on panties because I don't want I 880 00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:51,239 Speaker 3: don't want like my son to come in and see 881 00:50:51,280 --> 00:51:00,440 Speaker 3: my us because I think that would kill him if 882 00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:05,480 Speaker 3: he's my mama who has hanging out. So I just 883 00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:07,320 Speaker 3: have to remember, I'm just going to go to sleep. 884 00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:10,400 Speaker 3: I'm not doing the suffering and the sickness. Like you know, 885 00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:14,200 Speaker 3: when I stuck into my regular physical doctor. I have 886 00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:17,400 Speaker 3: other doctors that I go to because at my age, 887 00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:20,960 Speaker 3: they they want something to be wrong with me. I 888 00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:23,560 Speaker 3: don't take a pill for nothing. I don't have high 889 00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:27,560 Speaker 3: blood pressure. I don't have uh the concuss the bunkus, 890 00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:37,840 Speaker 3: who's naa? My blood pressure is normal, you know, I 891 00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:39,040 Speaker 3: don't have any of it. 892 00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:40,840 Speaker 2: That's not real. I'm about to take my doctor like. 893 00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:50,000 Speaker 3: Anything, and so they don't believe me. So the only 894 00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:51,800 Speaker 3: thing they could think to tell me was where you 895 00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:58,480 Speaker 3: are obese? They told obese, you're twenty pounds over the 896 00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:01,840 Speaker 3: what the white I'm supposed to be. But you know, 897 00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:04,880 Speaker 3: my butt is the size of white. Boys want for 898 00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:09,280 Speaker 3: my whole body to be so I'm not worried about that, okay, 899 00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:15,680 Speaker 3: But so I'm just not going to do all of 900 00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:17,920 Speaker 3: that sickness stuff and I'm not going to live up 901 00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:20,520 Speaker 3: to the standards that they set for me. Like they 902 00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:22,200 Speaker 3: wanted to do these weird things to me. 903 00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:23,479 Speaker 5: And I said, well, why are. 904 00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:26,080 Speaker 3: We doing that? They said, because people your aging I 905 00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:27,800 Speaker 3: don't have. They don't have nothing to do with me. 906 00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:30,520 Speaker 3: I anything do with me. I'm not doing that. You 907 00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:34,640 Speaker 3: are not sticking that up there now, not doing no. 908 00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:37,160 Speaker 3: I've done though, Okay, yeah, because my daughter died of 909 00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:41,000 Speaker 3: colon cancer. So I take but other things, other things, 910 00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:42,800 Speaker 3: I'm not doing it. 911 00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:44,640 Speaker 2: And this queen is seventy two by the way, for 912 00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:45,800 Speaker 2: anybody wondering. 913 00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:52,200 Speaker 3: But I have a relationship with my body. And you know, 914 00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:55,719 Speaker 3: God is so merciful because I'm a virgo. I'm a 915 00:52:55,760 --> 00:53:01,719 Speaker 3: hypochondriac me too, you two both. Every little thing you know, 916 00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:03,440 Speaker 3: a headache is a brain too. Oh. 917 00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:08,839 Speaker 2: I can see somebody else somebody die from right now. 918 00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:11,000 Speaker 2: So we go back and be like, hey, I gotta 919 00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:13,319 Speaker 2: go to doctor. I called him this week. 920 00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:15,040 Speaker 4: I said, hey, I just got scared from head to toe. 921 00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:17,919 Speaker 4: I said, the doctor doing brain and that I said 922 00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:18,800 Speaker 4: my appointment. 923 00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:22,000 Speaker 3: Right, So you understand what I'm saying. So God didn't 924 00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:24,280 Speaker 3: give me any of that. Because I wanted to survive. 925 00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:26,800 Speaker 3: I would live in the doctors. I'd have a box 926 00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:29,600 Speaker 3: in the corner by the stove in the doctor's office. 927 00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:32,160 Speaker 3: So I don't have that. But you know, people want 928 00:53:32,200 --> 00:53:34,719 Speaker 3: you to line up with what they think you should be, 929 00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:38,120 Speaker 3: what you even as a spiritual person. You know, for years, 930 00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:41,400 Speaker 3: and I say this, I've been doing this work since 931 00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:47,960 Speaker 3: nineteen eighty eight. Okay, for years, I was a demon. 932 00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:51,719 Speaker 3: I was all sorts of things. They would not let 933 00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:55,600 Speaker 3: me in a pulpit in the church. And then when 934 00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:58,840 Speaker 3: my books started selling and people would come and the 935 00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:02,640 Speaker 3: offering plate would be bigger than I became welcome. Why 936 00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:04,920 Speaker 3: because I didn't do it the way they did it. 937 00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:08,440 Speaker 3: But that's not how God told me to do. I 938 00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:11,240 Speaker 3: don't have to answer to you when I get wherever 939 00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:13,680 Speaker 3: I'm going. If I have to answer to anybody, it 940 00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:17,600 Speaker 3: won't be you. So I had to follow my purpose, 941 00:54:17,719 --> 00:54:18,200 Speaker 3: my mission. 942 00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:22,640 Speaker 5: My Lucke, have you been able to find that love 943 00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:23,279 Speaker 5: that works for you? 944 00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:24,160 Speaker 4: Yeah? 945 00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:26,959 Speaker 7: I remember in an earlier episode of I ele Fixed 946 00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:28,560 Speaker 7: My Life, he was saying, you stayed with a man 947 00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:30,920 Speaker 7: for fourteen years, but then you left him because you 948 00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:33,360 Speaker 7: didn't want to have to teach thirteen. I'm sorry to 949 00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:38,680 Speaker 7: teach somebody how to love you right well, you know, 950 00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:39,759 Speaker 7: because I. 951 00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:44,600 Speaker 3: Right after that I left that relationship. He passed, and 952 00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:49,000 Speaker 3: right after that I got my great grandson. So I've 953 00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:53,200 Speaker 3: been grandmothering him now and I want to be fully 954 00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:56,360 Speaker 3: present for him. Gotcha, this is a kid who doesn't 955 00:54:56,400 --> 00:55:00,279 Speaker 3: have his mom or his dad, his grandmother, my daughter 956 00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:03,120 Speaker 3: was raising him. She's gone. So now he's with me. 957 00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:06,719 Speaker 3: And so I made a conscious choice right now that 958 00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:11,520 Speaker 3: I don't want to say that's my man, because but 959 00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:16,000 Speaker 3: he has my heart because the three hearts that were 960 00:55:16,040 --> 00:55:19,040 Speaker 3: closest to him he lost. I don't want him to 961 00:55:19,120 --> 00:55:22,640 Speaker 3: have to compete for my heart. So right now he's 962 00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:26,360 Speaker 3: my focus. He's eight now, so I you know, hopefully 963 00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:32,880 Speaker 3: everything will still be working in order and man by 964 00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:36,319 Speaker 3: the time he's ten. And then, you know, because even 965 00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:40,000 Speaker 3: to date, I don't want to bring because people coming 966 00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:42,160 Speaker 3: in the hot out of his life has a totally 967 00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:45,959 Speaker 3: different meaning. His mom's gone, his dad's gone, his grandma's gone. 968 00:55:46,440 --> 00:55:48,839 Speaker 3: So I'm dating somebody for three months and then they're gone. 969 00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:51,960 Speaker 3: What does that do to him? So I'm consciously parenting 970 00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:55,040 Speaker 3: in a way that I didn't do it. Like it 971 00:55:56,080 --> 00:55:59,359 Speaker 3: So I'm I'm but girl, I got there's some eye 972 00:55:59,400 --> 00:55:59,880 Speaker 3: candy out. 973 00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:04,320 Speaker 6: A lot of people be exhausted by outside the streets, 974 00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:06,560 Speaker 6: be exhausting some people. Huh, A lot of people be 975 00:56:06,640 --> 00:56:08,879 Speaker 6: exhausted by the dating life. Right now, you're looking forward 976 00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:09,359 Speaker 6: to getting back. 977 00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:12,560 Speaker 3: But I want to create what I want and call him. 978 00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:14,640 Speaker 3: I know what he looks like. 979 00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:15,000 Speaker 6: I'm not. 980 00:56:15,640 --> 00:56:18,520 Speaker 3: I'm not doing this, uh, you know, on the line 981 00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:21,360 Speaker 3: speed dating kind of stuff. I'm gonna sit right in 982 00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:24,680 Speaker 3: my home and I'm gonna let my lady balls hang 983 00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:28,400 Speaker 3: out and I'm gonna meditate. Call him it and he 984 00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:29,120 Speaker 3: gonna show up. 985 00:56:29,239 --> 00:56:31,480 Speaker 2: What about the spiritually transmitted diseases? Though? 986 00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:36,799 Speaker 4: Spir trying to get some pepe and then he doesn't 987 00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:40,640 Speaker 4: put all his negative spiritual No no, no, no, no no. 988 00:56:40,719 --> 00:56:46,280 Speaker 3: No, he can't because my qualifications or what I desire 989 00:56:46,920 --> 00:56:49,640 Speaker 3: in a partner. Number one, I want to make sure 990 00:56:49,719 --> 00:56:52,720 Speaker 3: he has a good relationship with his mother and his children. 991 00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:56,280 Speaker 3: That's number one. Because if you can't be in relationship 992 00:56:56,360 --> 00:56:59,719 Speaker 3: with your mama, yama means great mother. I don't have 993 00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:05,040 Speaker 3: a hands in hell. You got to be a relationship 994 00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:07,000 Speaker 3: with your mom. You got to be a relationship with 995 00:57:07,080 --> 00:57:09,279 Speaker 3: your kids. And I don't care how old he is. 996 00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:13,000 Speaker 3: Although I'm going younger, I gotta go a little younger. Okay, 997 00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:20,160 Speaker 3: you want energy because and and also because my experiences 998 00:57:20,200 --> 00:57:26,040 Speaker 3: a lot of brothers in my age category. Yeah, I 999 00:57:26,120 --> 00:57:27,120 Speaker 3: can't do the blue field. 1000 00:57:27,600 --> 00:57:29,560 Speaker 2: It's the older other. Right now, I'll put that bluetoo 1001 00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:30,200 Speaker 2: on you right now. 1002 00:57:30,360 --> 00:57:35,800 Speaker 3: No, you will not take your blue cho down in 1003 00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:39,560 Speaker 3: the basement. You get out of here. I am not 1004 00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:41,120 Speaker 3: on the blue choo committee. 1005 00:57:49,880 --> 00:57:50,560 Speaker 6: Are you looking at like. 1006 00:57:53,160 --> 00:57:56,480 Speaker 3: That's robbery? Okay? My son is fifty five. I just 1007 00:57:56,600 --> 00:58:03,520 Speaker 3: was asking I think for seventy I can do sixty eight. 1008 00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:09,400 Speaker 3: You know what what I said? Could he have babysat 1009 00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:13,080 Speaker 3: my son? See if he's sixty eight, he would have 1010 00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:16,360 Speaker 3: been thirteen. He could have watched my ten year old. Gotcha, 1011 00:58:16,440 --> 00:58:17,080 Speaker 3: that's how I'm doing. 1012 00:58:17,120 --> 00:58:17,160 Speaker 2: That? 1013 00:58:17,520 --> 00:58:18,919 Speaker 3: Is that good? That's a good man, man? 1014 00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:20,680 Speaker 1: What a young boys gonna put it on? 1015 00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:24,880 Speaker 3: You? Listen? I had one roll up on me in 1016 00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:28,360 Speaker 3: the gas station, and I was so out of it 1017 00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:31,160 Speaker 3: I didn't and when I recogniz I said, are you 1018 00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:33,760 Speaker 3: Are you hitting on me? He said, yes, ma'am. I am. 1019 00:58:34,560 --> 00:58:37,000 Speaker 3: I said how old are you? He said thirty seven? 1020 00:58:37,080 --> 00:58:39,160 Speaker 3: I said, boy, police, I got bras older than you. 1021 00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:47,240 Speaker 3: He said, I would like to see it. I couldn't 1022 00:58:47,240 --> 00:58:53,040 Speaker 3: stop laughing. Oh yes, he said, I would love to 1023 00:58:53,080 --> 00:58:56,600 Speaker 3: see it. Yeah. Boy, you wouldn't even recognize he wouldn't 1024 00:58:56,600 --> 00:59:02,640 Speaker 3: even know what it was. But yeah, you. 1025 00:59:04,800 --> 00:59:08,400 Speaker 2: We appreciate. Thank you man. I'm glad that God created you. 1026 00:59:08,600 --> 00:59:10,720 Speaker 3: Thank you, and I'm glad you're here. And I'm really 1027 00:59:10,800 --> 00:59:13,360 Speaker 3: really happy about you going to Netflix. 1028 00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:15,560 Speaker 2: January twenty this year. 1029 00:59:15,800 --> 00:59:17,560 Speaker 3: Yes, well I should have waited. 1030 00:59:21,320 --> 00:59:21,680 Speaker 2: Juary. 1031 00:59:21,760 --> 00:59:24,920 Speaker 3: You're going to Netflix January twenty six. I'm going to 1032 00:59:25,040 --> 00:59:29,960 Speaker 3: the MGM Theater in in my first public appearance in 1033 00:59:31,720 --> 00:59:36,400 Speaker 3: since twenty nineteen. That I'm at the MGM Theater at 1034 00:59:36,920 --> 00:59:41,760 Speaker 3: in d C. January twenty fifth, nineteen. 1035 00:59:41,920 --> 00:59:43,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, wow, that's amazing. 1036 00:59:45,560 --> 00:59:49,280 Speaker 3: Can they get tickets? Go to the MGM Theater thing there. 1037 00:59:49,880 --> 00:59:55,960 Speaker 3: I'm so excited, Thank you, said he took a break degree. No, 1038 00:59:56,360 --> 01:00:00,040 Speaker 3: I just you know, it's COVID, and then I I 1039 01:00:00,160 --> 01:00:04,000 Speaker 3: wasn't on the show, and then I was grandmother ing, 1040 01:00:04,720 --> 01:00:07,720 Speaker 3: and then I just you know, I've done little things 1041 01:00:07,760 --> 01:00:11,400 Speaker 3: here and there, but me on the stage doing Oh 1042 01:00:11,480 --> 01:00:13,080 Speaker 3: I haven't done that since twenty night time. 1043 01:00:13,520 --> 01:00:16,040 Speaker 1: Get your tickets. Also, the inside fixed from me is 1044 01:00:16,040 --> 01:00:17,440 Speaker 1: on the seventeenth of this month. 1045 01:00:17,240 --> 01:00:19,320 Speaker 3: And thank you for joining us, Thank you for having me. 1046 01:00:19,400 --> 01:00:21,720 Speaker 3: I really got fun and I can I say this. 1047 01:00:22,440 --> 01:00:24,400 Speaker 3: First of all, you are absolutely gorgeous. 1048 01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:25,720 Speaker 5: Thank you know that, right, Yes, ma'am. 1049 01:00:25,800 --> 01:00:28,120 Speaker 3: Don't let Charlamade tell you anything. 1050 01:00:28,600 --> 01:00:32,720 Speaker 1: Okay, he tells the Lauren too well, she knows she's 1051 01:00:32,760 --> 01:00:33,439 Speaker 1: the baby girl. 1052 01:00:33,560 --> 01:00:38,520 Speaker 3: She's just a cutey little funking. That was the part 1053 01:00:38,520 --> 01:00:39,560 Speaker 3: of Don't Bother. 1054 01:00:44,920 --> 01:00:49,800 Speaker 6: We were calm, I mean, and it's the MGM National 1055 01:00:49,880 --> 01:00:51,160 Speaker 6: Harbor website. 1056 01:00:51,680 --> 01:00:54,160 Speaker 3: Your ticket you can go. And let me say this, 1057 01:00:54,760 --> 01:00:58,840 Speaker 3: I am so proud of you. Thank you really as 1058 01:00:58,920 --> 01:01:03,040 Speaker 3: an og, I am so proud of you and the 1059 01:01:03,160 --> 01:01:06,240 Speaker 3: way that you present. I mean, sometimes you all do 1060 01:01:06,280 --> 01:01:09,120 Speaker 3: a little controversial, but that's okay. I'm I'm o G. 1061 01:01:09,360 --> 01:01:16,920 Speaker 3: But I can do this, My little ones, keep me 1062 01:01:17,040 --> 01:01:22,440 Speaker 3: up today. Continue to represent yourselves and us in this 1063 01:01:22,720 --> 01:01:26,880 Speaker 3: really powerful, productive way. I was so excited when I 1064 01:01:26,920 --> 01:01:34,000 Speaker 3: heard about Netflix. Good, so just continue to do it, okay, 1065 01:01:39,120 --> 01:01:39,600 Speaker 3: every day 1066 01:01:41,680 --> 01:01:42,439 Speaker 2: Breakfast Glove