Speaker 1: Watch up and welcome back to another episode and No
Speaker 1: Sinners Podcast with your host now funck that with your
Speaker 1: low glasses, Malone, whether fucking pig? What's the deal? Just here, man,
Speaker 1: just here? Not much else. How are you liking Florida.
Speaker 1: I'm liking it. It's cool. I ran to a little
Speaker 1: bit of a wrinkle. The um the biden Ezuela problem
Speaker 1: is has reached Florida. I went to Walmart the other
Speaker 1: day to try to get some meat and chicken, and
Speaker 1: they were out of both meat and you had to
Speaker 1: have like one little thing of ground beef and like
Speaker 1: a couple of chicken legs. That was it. I was like, fuck, ship,
Speaker 1: that sounds like you got some ship right there. It
Speaker 1: looks crazy. No, I just wasn't trying to cook that.
Speaker 1: I had all ingredients to cook other things, and I
Speaker 1: was like, what's going on to why there is no
Speaker 1: meat in Miami. I'm not sure. I mean, I think
Speaker 1: it might be the fact that it's like the end
Speaker 1: of the road for like rail delivery, you know, like
Speaker 1: if like they don't grow that ship here, so if
Speaker 1: it's coming in like say like last time I tried,
Speaker 1: I was making postively. I couldn't find onions. Had to
Speaker 1: go to three stores to find onions. Not I went
Speaker 1: to that the oranges and cocaine. Yeah, the seven eleven
Speaker 1: I went to have nothing but empty shells. They had
Speaker 1: like two things of orange juice, like the ship, like
Speaker 1: the super pulp seven eleven orange juice that nobody wants
Speaker 1: was the only orange uice they had left. I was shocked. Well,
Speaker 1: you know what I find, uh is the shortage of
Speaker 1: baby food. Isn't baby food a fabricatedem Yeah, it's got
Speaker 1: a lot of weird FDA regulations and stuff. So I
Speaker 1: think that was a significant factor in that. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: was talking with my wife about that, and I said, well,
Speaker 1: shod and infants that consume baby food can take the
Speaker 1: bridge as well. So people go ahead to start and
Speaker 1: see my wife says, some women don't produce milk. You
Speaker 1: know what. I don't like that, excuse um because it's true, right,
Speaker 1: some women don't produce milk, Like when abortions happen, some
Speaker 1: women do get raped, but that's not the majority of
Speaker 1: the problem. Well what about this though, Like if it
Speaker 1: say you're kids like eight months old, right, and you
Speaker 1: weaned your kid from like breast milk to formula, like
Speaker 1: at five months hypothetically, I don't know, so like you stopped,
Speaker 1: Why would you Why would you wean your child from
Speaker 1: breast milk to formula? I don't know, but like supposed
Speaker 1: hypothetically that you do, and then your body stops producing
Speaker 1: milk and then there's no more formula? Can you produce
Speaker 1: the milk again? Well, I definitely courtesy of Mrs Steele.
Speaker 1: I was educated on that because I said some things.
Speaker 1: I said, women need to stop being lazy and breastfeed
Speaker 1: their kid. They're too worried about their figure and they
Speaker 1: nipples getting warped out of shaping all that stuff. I
Speaker 1: thought that they didn't want to do it just for
Speaker 1: cosmetic reasons. But I found out that some women just
Speaker 1: don't produce enough milk. Because let's take all my kids.
Speaker 1: Jasmine was breast fed. Stefan he was prest fed, but
Speaker 1: took the bottle too, because he was so greedy that
Speaker 1: he would make Maria runs ry on milk. She wouldn't
Speaker 1: have enough milk for him, so she would have to
Speaker 1: make him a bottle because he was just that greedy. Chris,
Speaker 1: he didn't want the milk. He he was weird. He
Speaker 1: just wanted to He just wanted to do some weird stuff,
Speaker 1: so we had some weird concoction greevance to him. But Jasmine,
Speaker 1: she was fully on prest And I'll tell you something
Speaker 1: that's interesting too. Both of my boys had um, you know,
Speaker 1: asthma and surass right when they were younger. Jasmine was breastfast.
Speaker 1: You didn't have none of those illnesses. Perfect skin and
Speaker 1: perfect everything. Yeah, go ahead, Pete, I said, I think
Speaker 1: that it's probably not too much to suggest that when
Speaker 1: you have a pharmaceutical company that is responsible for making
Speaker 1: most of the formula, that there might be a little
Speaker 1: bit of future market incentive with the quote unquote recipe.
Speaker 1: And and I'll resent what you said still, like we
Speaker 1: have to stop coming into a space to where people
Speaker 1: are being questioned and then the immediate response is a
Speaker 1: fear or hate, Like if you say something that people
Speaker 1: don't agree with, right, Like let's say if I say
Speaker 1: uh as a talent when I listened to Little NASAs
Speaker 1: records at times their corny, right, I'm not almost folk, Right,
Speaker 1: that's just ridiculous. That's just an intellectually lazy response to challenge.
Speaker 1: Is his movie, you know, music corny, just like prior
Speaker 1: when I was just saying right now, I'm like, you know,
Speaker 1: like baby food or like abortion, Like abortion laws are
Speaker 1: not rooted in rape, right, It's all about convenience. It's
Speaker 1: not like I'm being pro man or hateful to women
Speaker 1: or a misogynists as you would call it, or chauvinistic
Speaker 1: as you would call it. That's ridiculous. It's just lazy.
Speaker 1: Literally you would have to combat the ideas and then
Speaker 1: do the numbers of how many women actually get raped
Speaker 1: and have a bortion versus how many women just have
Speaker 1: a bortion. Well, let me clarify at first, that sounds
Speaker 1: very chauvinistic of you. Sound sound it sounded so listen
Speaker 1: the clinical definition of listening and hearing, right, Men, Men
Speaker 1: listen right, you you listed and you end. Women tend
Speaker 1: to hear right. That's to acknowledge sound. So that's why
Speaker 1: when I say something you would respond with it sounds
Speaker 1: like you're saying, or it sounds like you're no. I
Speaker 1: gave you a list and end. Just look at the
Speaker 1: list and end. It's all real. Like, it's not about
Speaker 1: hating women, are disliking women. I understand that some women
Speaker 1: do not produce milk. But that is not why formula
Speaker 1: companies are wealthy. They're wealthy because people are lazy. People
Speaker 1: don't want to have kids because they don't want the
Speaker 1: financial responsibilities. That's the majority reason why people. And I
Speaker 1: think that's responsible. I think that's being responsible. It's not.
Speaker 1: Nothing about taking a life is responsible. No, listen, I'm not.
Speaker 1: I'm talking about people that decide not to have kids
Speaker 1: for the financial ramifications. I think if you can't afford
Speaker 1: to have children, you can't, you shouldn't have them. But
Speaker 1: I think the responsible thing to do would be to
Speaker 1: not have sex, not have six And that's and and
Speaker 1: and that phase right there is what's wrong with with humanity.
Speaker 1: And like from a women's standpoint on abortion, women want
Speaker 1: they don't want to cover anything they want to They
Speaker 1: want to get nutted in by who the funk ever,
Speaker 1: and then they want to have an abortion. But they
Speaker 1: want their abortion free and paid for by the taxpayer.
Speaker 1: And if they don't have abortion, they want to have
Speaker 1: the kid, and they want to put the dude on
Speaker 1: child support. If the dude doesn't have enough money, then
Speaker 1: gets who steps in the taxpayer again, I'm paying for
Speaker 1: abortions and fucking child support via my taxes for more bitches.
Speaker 1: I ain't never fucked and I could ever count. And
Speaker 1: that's Pete white man about my white tax dollars. But
Speaker 1: I feel you. I just don't like paying for pussy.
Speaker 1: I wasn't there. It's just it doesn't ring well with you.
Speaker 1: Don't like a pussy. No Sailings, we're gonna get canceled
Speaker 1: because of the first few minutes, remember it off in
Speaker 1: the first few minute. I'm sorry, dadies. Pete is telling
Speaker 1: the truth, but he has to say it better. I
Speaker 1: couldn't have said it any better. No Sailors. Yeah, my man,
Speaker 1: Peter Bias, resident producer, excuse me, resident managerial expertise, and
Speaker 1: the executive podcast company owner Normous Steel for me, my manager,
Speaker 1: big stealers in the house as USU. Wow. You know
Speaker 1: if we didn't get canceled in those first three or
Speaker 1: four minutes, man, because right off the head, they're gonna
Speaker 1: be like, first off, glasses is tripping. How dare he
Speaker 1: actually compare abortions to murdering life. It's something we're doing
Speaker 1: with our body like it's crazy how they have reduced
Speaker 1: the conversation of abortions to the equivalent of getting a tattoo.
Speaker 1: It's like whatever we do with our bodies. Like I'm saying,
Speaker 1: don't get a tattooed, but he's telling you this is
Speaker 1: the same. But I don't want to talk about that
Speaker 1: because women are already gonna be bad. And I'm sorry, ladies,
Speaker 1: but y'all gotta keep it real sometimes, and we gotta
Speaker 1: keep just like me. And I keep it real with
Speaker 1: me and for me, and that's what this is all about,
Speaker 1: keeping it real. I was listening to something. Uh it
Speaker 1: was Oh, his name is a Sian Campbell. Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: I'll see some of his content. Um, he's like a YouTuber. Um.
Speaker 1: He speaks from a really I almost want to feel
Speaker 1: like he has a really good, soulful place that he
Speaker 1: speaks from. But at times when I listened to him,
Speaker 1: it sounds like he's just really been traumatized and been
Speaker 1: through a lot, and he feels pressure kind of respond
Speaker 1: to certain ways, or he feels like he's catering to
Speaker 1: his audience. That's just my opinion. You don't mean, I'm right, Well,
Speaker 1: he's been he's been through some trauma. You know. That's
Speaker 1: doggy dogs that yeah, yeah, and and and it's obvious right.
Speaker 1: So that's not the point, but it was something he
Speaker 1: was saying. He was having a conversation with Math and
Speaker 1: he was saying, he applauded uh pop smoke recipes because
Speaker 1: solid low, because cool young nigga. He said, he applauded
Speaker 1: him for not checking in. And I just thought that
Speaker 1: that was a weird thing, right, because I I'm starting
Speaker 1: to realize there's an overall connotation with what people referred
Speaker 1: to as checking in. Right, So I'm vested, right, this
Speaker 1: is my expertise, right the street urban lifestyle, like more
Speaker 1: than Pete, more than Stills. So Pete, I wanted to
Speaker 1: ask you, what do you think people mean when they
Speaker 1: say checking in? I don't know the PRESLA context, like,
Speaker 1: how are you how are you suggesting? Well, I'm saying
Speaker 1: if a rapper? If so? Right now, within the conversation
Speaker 1: right had being had by the culture, people are saying,
Speaker 1: is it a good or a bad thing to check in? Um,
Speaker 1: that means if you go to Los Angeles, get in
Speaker 1: contact with certain Los Angelino's right who have street ties. Oh,
Speaker 1: I guess you ask covered. I don't quite know why.
Speaker 1: I don't want to kind of assume what they means.
Speaker 1: But I'm asking what do you think it means? Um,
Speaker 1: how that hands on where you're going? But I think that, yeah,
Speaker 1: maybe to some extent, there's seems like there's always kind
Speaker 1: of an industry like suggestion that if you're in somebody's city,
Speaker 1: it's almost like you, oh it to that person to
Speaker 1: contribute in some sort of a way to what's happening
Speaker 1: in the city or what they do as like the
Speaker 1: leading voice in the city. Still, what do you think, Shit,
Speaker 1: I don't think no one should have to check in
Speaker 1: with nobody. Let me ask you this, what do you
Speaker 1: think checking in means? I think checking in is alerting
Speaker 1: people that somewhere you're going to a city that you're
Speaker 1: traveling to. Like if I was going to New York,
Speaker 1: if I check in with somebody and say, hey, I
Speaker 1: mean you guys, say you kind of just to put
Speaker 1: them on notice that you in the city. But as
Speaker 1: far as that whole checking in thing that like, you
Speaker 1: gotta let me know. You know how trick Trick was
Speaker 1: shutting down people's concerts and all that stuff, that's ridiculous
Speaker 1: to me. Well, I think that I think Trick was
Speaker 1: actually talking about really the promoters. He felt that, um,
Speaker 1: a lot of the promoters, right, they were booking these
Speaker 1: out of town acts, right, and um having the Detroit
Speaker 1: audience come through the community right to to provide and
Speaker 1: watch these acts. And he was never the promoters were
Speaker 1: not supporting Detroit artists and allowing them to be a
Speaker 1: part of it. Right, doing your community part like, you know,
Speaker 1: like it were required to lift each urban street community
Speaker 1: out of this level of poor, of poverty and oppression.
Speaker 1: So he started to tell the other rappers, Hey, man,
Speaker 1: if y'all coming through here, you know, this would be
Speaker 1: dope of you, you know, if you're gonna get money
Speaker 1: in Detroit, to allow other rappers from Detroit, right to
Speaker 1: have an opportunity to share, you know, to share the
Speaker 1: stage so they can entertain Detroit too, because these promoters
Speaker 1: ain't booking them. I actually agree with what Trigger was doing.
Speaker 1: I actually think it was really smart. Um, you know,
Speaker 1: to a certain extent, Bro, I get it. I think, um,
Speaker 1: you should support the community, right instead of just coming
Speaker 1: to take from a community, you should support it. But
Speaker 1: the whole premise, I understand what trick Trick was doing, right,
Speaker 1: but this whole thing where people want to get checked
Speaker 1: in just on some street stuff. We want people checking
Speaker 1: in or you're a mon city without checking in with me,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be problems. That's very that's a very ignorant
Speaker 1: mind state to me. But but who's ever said that.
Speaker 1: You've heard numerous people say that. I've heard a rappers say, Hey,
Speaker 1: if you don't check in when you come to my city,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a problem. I've never heard that in
Speaker 1: my life. Isn't that kind of the whole baseline behind
Speaker 1: like the fact that, like say, for example, there's a
Speaker 1: lot of recording that is done in hip hop in
Speaker 1: Los Angeles, Right, It isn't there a relationship between the
Speaker 1: concept that steals talking about and what you're talking about
Speaker 1: and the fact that whether it be Sixties or my
Speaker 1: pirrou or various hoods are working as like security for
Speaker 1: these acts when they come in from out of town.
Speaker 1: The Sixties get a really bad rap on what's going on,
Speaker 1: and that making a generic game any anyone because we
Speaker 1: know that there are specifically talk about the sixties, Right,
Speaker 1: I think they get a really bad rap in this arena, right,
Speaker 1: um rolland sixty Crip is an international brand. How powerful
Speaker 1: it is international within the urban community, street communities I
Speaker 1: don't know, but I know it's out there, but within
Speaker 1: America's borders, it's a really powerful brand. A lot of
Speaker 1: people want to be affiliated with the Rolling sixty crips.
Speaker 1: I don't think they have to look for anyone. I
Speaker 1: think most people come looking for them and people because
Speaker 1: you want to be affiliated with these brands, right, and
Speaker 1: you want to wear it, and you wanna you know,
Speaker 1: you want to be a part of it, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, just like any other honey. You know
Speaker 1: it's best if you do community things to try to
Speaker 1: help people from the community, right. But I think that's
Speaker 1: what that's my issue in the concept. Somewhere along the
Speaker 1: line it became something compatible or comparable to like being exploited.
Speaker 1: And I said, I was listening to math and I
Speaker 1: was listening to us and talk about it, and I
Speaker 1: just thought that was dumb. You mean, not dumb of them,
Speaker 1: but that's a dumb concept. And it's weird because like
Speaker 1: you don't check in, people don't make you pay because
Speaker 1: you exist. A matter of fact, people only make you
Speaker 1: pay when you try to use their brand, right, when
Speaker 1: you try to use their brand right, and and any
Speaker 1: any time you do what she'll cost you something like
Speaker 1: this is a brand that people blood sweat, you know,
Speaker 1: ship blood sweat, tears, died killed over, you know, to
Speaker 1: protect the the reputation of the brand. Um. But I
Speaker 1: think the concept of checking in has gotten so far
Speaker 1: out of context, rooted in some level of the West
Speaker 1: Coast being like this forceful thing of like oh you
Speaker 1: know what, yeah, you you gotta pay them because this
Speaker 1: it's like, no, people pay people because they want to
Speaker 1: be affiliated. Most of the time. People not taking money.
Speaker 1: Most of the time they're offering jobs. Oh you know what,
Speaker 1: would you like to be the security while we're doing it,
Speaker 1: like by that same standard like when puff had used
Speaker 1: the south Side right now it has such a negative connotation,
Speaker 1: but that's dope to employ other brothers from different cities
Speaker 1: and states. For me to hold your common interests while
Speaker 1: you in this territory. Is if you're a real concrete
Speaker 1: player out here, you feel me. Other concrete players respect
Speaker 1: what you're doing. But like if you think of some
Speaker 1: of the most no, some of the some of the
Speaker 1: gangs of the communities that's overly represented in the music industry,
Speaker 1: like a gang like Mansfield come to mind, right where
Speaker 1: you got t money d Macmka all these niggas, right, Uh,
Speaker 1: they don't have to use force. Like it's some kind
Speaker 1: of confusion that that what we do here especially don't
Speaker 1: have value. You feel me like it doesn't have value
Speaker 1: within hip hop and all we do is take from artists.
Speaker 1: But let's talk about what the Jungles right there for
Speaker 1: Walker Flucker. They created his career at this level. They
Speaker 1: gave him the most outstanding reputation as a gangster rapper
Speaker 1: that any rapper in Atlantic could ever have because when
Speaker 1: he came and did a video in the Jungles, all
Speaker 1: of the blood stood behind him and embraced him like
Speaker 1: he was somebody from their community. Like the video might
Speaker 1: have costed twenty thousand, let's say whatever he spin, let's
Speaker 1: say contributed thirty five thousand to the community. That song
Speaker 1: made him a multimillion dollar act. Now he's had success before,
Speaker 1: and he had some success after, but Hard in the
Speaker 1: Paint he came such a phenomenon right, and it made
Speaker 1: him look really, really credible right as an artist because
Speaker 1: he was able as a Georgia, as an Atlanta artist
Speaker 1: that's from New York. He was able to come to
Speaker 1: one of the worst places in Los Angeles and stand
Speaker 1: with two hundred of the most notorious gang members in
Speaker 1: Los Angeles and get support. Like so, I digress. But
Speaker 1: the thought I was having is when I go to
Speaker 1: New York, right, I get down and uh, you know Manhattan,
Speaker 1: I called my niggas because they're my guys around America. Right,
Speaker 1: It's only a handful of us everywhere we go. So
Speaker 1: the natural thing is to literally brothership and set me
Speaker 1: fellowship with other brothers. That's from the coaching. So when
Speaker 1: I go to New York, I'm gonna hear Trade Pizzy
Speaker 1: out of the Bronx, I'm gonna hear my man Wink
Speaker 1: how the Flatbush Brooklet. I'm gonna hear all my partners
Speaker 1: feel me because I want to see them. So if
Speaker 1: you really a concrete player, you know, a real uh
Speaker 1: some kind of phenomen what you do, if if if
Speaker 1: your ship is what it is, it's you don't even
Speaker 1: feel the concept of checking in. It's totally different. It's
Speaker 1: like letting your people know I'm around, what we're doing,
Speaker 1: what's happening. I don't get this whole you feel me,
Speaker 1: this belief that you have to pay somebody to be
Speaker 1: in Los Angeles. No you pay somebody to protect you
Speaker 1: from other niggas from Los Angeles, because other niggas from
Speaker 1: Los Angeles is looking at opportunities to come up, and
Speaker 1: you may look like an opportunity to pay some rints
Speaker 1: for some months. That's why you start to interact with
Speaker 1: other members of Los Angeles or the concept of checking in.
Speaker 1: But I don't think most of these dudes just doing that,
Speaker 1: Like somebody like Chris Brown, right, who will get a reputation. Man,
Speaker 1: the people probably ain't whack my nigga. Whack is really
Speaker 1: important in that from tree Top. Whack ain't need excuse me,
Speaker 1: Fruittown forgive me. Whack is from Fruittown. Minutes is from
Speaker 1: fruit Town. Whack and minutes don't need no money from
Speaker 1: Chris Brown. Whack had a billy before you know Chris Brown.
Speaker 1: He don't need no money. Chris Brown loves what this
Speaker 1: thing that we call the culture represents. He loves the
Speaker 1: brotherhood of it, he loves that togetherness of it. He
Speaker 1: loves the lingo in it, he loves the fashion of it.
Speaker 1: It's a lovable thing. It's what It's what made Snoop
Speaker 1: the greatest artist. For me to come out of hip hop. Ever,
Speaker 1: because culturally it is very fascinating to watch us do
Speaker 1: our thing. But like I said, just listening to them
Speaker 1: two brothers chop it up, because what's weird, Because it's like,
Speaker 1: is that what y'all think of us? You think we
Speaker 1: need your money, You think we're just this untalented you know,
Speaker 1: bick You gets a bad reputation for this, and bick
Speaker 1: You has a ton of great ideas. He brings a
Speaker 1: ton of value as an elder, somebody who survived the
Speaker 1: worst parts of the life. Can I speaking to him
Speaker 1: real quick? Wrong? You? Can I speak on him? I
Speaker 1: think very I think Big You is a very, very
Speaker 1: misunderstood individual. He does a number of incredible things for
Speaker 1: his community. And when I talk about community, I mean
Speaker 1: really the community, the kids, especially the children over there.
Speaker 1: You know, Um, you know you had a youth football program,
Speaker 1: and that's how I met that you. Actually I didn't
Speaker 1: meet Big You on the music stuff and nothing else.
Speaker 1: I met Big You talking mess through Tony Lane through
Speaker 1: black tongue about football. You know, get better, Tom. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you talked about a guy that has a program but
Speaker 1: maybe two hundred, two hundred fifty kids in it and
Speaker 1: it's expensive. Front of the youth football program cent in
Speaker 1: his base does not pay They don't have money to
Speaker 1: pay league fees or anything like that. But they still
Speaker 1: play football and all of these and he's genuinely he
Speaker 1: genuinely he has his communities, he has he has what's
Speaker 1: best for them, and he's not doing thathing file man.
Speaker 1: I think he's a misunderstood kid. Like I even heard something,
Speaker 1: you know, I even just heard something about him, somebody
Speaker 1: saying what he's dealing with the police. No, he's not
Speaker 1: dealing with the police. He has a program to where
Speaker 1: he gets funding from the police department for the community.
Speaker 1: But even even entertaining those concepts when you're talking about
Speaker 1: a guy who was transit, you know, transitioned his life
Speaker 1: right from prison into doing positive things for the community
Speaker 1: right a nonprofit. It's all kinds of funding does it
Speaker 1: doesn't matter. I don't give a fuck whoever funds these programs.
Speaker 1: He's supposed to use the money for the benefit of
Speaker 1: those children. I don't give a funk. If it's the
Speaker 1: wealthiest a trade nigga in America or the wealthiest nigga
Speaker 1: from Engle with families in America and they want to
Speaker 1: donate to the program. This is this is about black
Speaker 1: is in the ghetto. So I don't even entertain that
Speaker 1: silly ship. It's just the concept of listening to people
Speaker 1: like people here are just a bunch of guys who
Speaker 1: literally have no talent, and we're just taking it. Honestly,
Speaker 1: I don't think people here crushed down enough on the talent.
Speaker 1: I really think Walker fucker pay cheat. Well. You know what,
Speaker 1: the one thing I respected about Walker flock of Dog
Speaker 1: is whatever t Rogers recipes, teacher t Rogers, O G.
Speaker 1: T Rogers whatever, t what ya whatever? That plug on
Speaker 1: that recipe is Lucky his son too. Yeah, he's a
Speaker 1: good brother man, and we actually, you know what pissing
Speaker 1: me off about that man. That's why I don't take
Speaker 1: stuff for granted. Now, we were supposed to be starting
Speaker 1: to work on his documentary. We have been talking on
Speaker 1: the phone about it. We had talked about it maybe
Speaker 1: three or four times, and I looked up he was gone,
Speaker 1: you know, so we can yeah, yeah, we can't story
Speaker 1: about t Rogers. Right. So men, Lucky, Me and Lucky
Speaker 1: we met through a mutual honey, but we got close fast. Right,
Speaker 1: Lucky was this real talented person introduced me to Bennie Boom.
Speaker 1: Shout out to Benny because really awesome director that he
Speaker 1: actually shot the video for Hardener pain. Um. Long story short,
Speaker 1: he hooked me up with his pops, t Rogers. Right.
Speaker 1: I heard his name a thousand times. I remember seeing
Speaker 1: him in the movie Colors. You know this nigga is
Speaker 1: king blood, you mean, to some degree, you know certain names.
Speaker 1: You hear you got all these niggas. Is really one
Speaker 1: of them guys, you know Terry, you know all of
Speaker 1: those guys. So he wanted to meet me. I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna meet t Rodgers. You know, I'm off the
Speaker 1: east side that ship. I ain't did nothing to nobody
Speaker 1: over here. So we decided to meet up at the
Speaker 1: Roscoe's in Inglewood. And uh, we meet up. So we
Speaker 1: had met before, but we meet up to talk business
Speaker 1: at this ros Coast. Now we're in Inglewood now with
Speaker 1: t Rogers, right. So I'm really shipped out of luck.
Speaker 1: I'm in Inglewood with t Rogers, right. So I walk
Speaker 1: into the rest. Rock T is sitting in there. No,
Speaker 1: I walked in first. They said us at the table.
Speaker 1: T comes, okay, this is where we're sitting there. So
Speaker 1: he's talking to me. I'm with either Mode or Metra
Speaker 1: and he says, uh. He said, hey, glasses, never's something. Yeah, man,
Speaker 1: how are you doing? I said, mol g, I'm chilling, man.
Speaker 1: How are you? Everything is good? May say? He said,
Speaker 1: you gotta got a crazy selection the place you wanted
Speaker 1: to sit that right here? You know, have you thought
Speaker 1: about it? If we needed to get out of here,
Speaker 1: where would our exit be? And I said, uh, I said, yeah,
Speaker 1: the door is over there. I said, I got my pistol.
Speaker 1: He said, I got my pistol. He showed this pistol.
Speaker 1: So that's not the point I'm asking. I'm saying. He said,
Speaker 1: how will we get out of here? I said, well,
Speaker 1: this window looks good? Said my man. He thought I
Speaker 1: was looking for the door. I'm like, yeah, this is
Speaker 1: all window. We're going out this window right here, and
Speaker 1: we're just where the cards is that. This is our exits.
Speaker 1: So how does just remember a lot of great conversations
Speaker 1: with him. It's such a brilliant guy man, such a
Speaker 1: brilliant dove man. And and I was talking about Snoop
Speaker 1: earlier on my Instagram live. You know how they see
Speaker 1: us versus how we are you know, from from this
Speaker 1: culture we call blood and the cryptic t Rodgers probably
Speaker 1: could have gave better advice on the presidential position for
Speaker 1: me to Joe Biden. That's how smart a god, how
Speaker 1: into intelligent and smart and resourceful and wise he was
Speaker 1: as a person, and like I said, to constantly be
Speaker 1: reduced down back to that point, like look what we
Speaker 1: offered Walker Flucker and look what we did for Walker
Speaker 1: Flecker's career. Now I'm not again, I'm not taking credit
Speaker 1: right as a los Angeleleson for Walkercker. I'm just telling
Speaker 1: you that's the power of the brand that people and
Speaker 1: rappers want to be affiliated with. I'm not sure. Maybe
Speaker 1: Lucky calls Walking says why you should come shoot this
Speaker 1: video on the jungles. I just don't think that that's
Speaker 1: how that's happening. I just think it's a little bit
Speaker 1: more of people understanding the value, right because he's seen
Speaker 1: a movie training day, so he understands the value of
Speaker 1: the poke. They've seen boys in the hood. So again
Speaker 1: it's one of those things where we really get short changed.
Speaker 1: And then the concept that really makes sense, because hip
Speaker 1: hop is all about urban street communities and really checking
Speaker 1: in it is just those urban street communities linking up
Speaker 1: right and offering resources and and and and and chilling
Speaker 1: with each other and you know, building a bond so
Speaker 1: we could keep helping brothers from our background that don't
Speaker 1: have representation. Well, one thing, bro, I think Walker really understood,
Speaker 1: Like you said, I think he understood the importance of
Speaker 1: having the streets behind you. You know, just think about
Speaker 1: how powerful that video was. He's shooting a video, and
Speaker 1: that those particular projects that you know, he had to
Speaker 1: have permission to shoot them, and you're getting greeted about
Speaker 1: t rockets and all that that boots of his career
Speaker 1: up to exponentially. Yeah, and and I think if you
Speaker 1: ask him, he understands the value of it, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, And he would say so. So I
Speaker 1: just don't when did checking in become this, Oh somebody's
Speaker 1: trying to exploit you, somebody's trying to steal Again. Like
Speaker 1: I said, I don't think the culture does a great job.
Speaker 1: I know different neighborhoods that mess with Jez, but Jes
Speaker 1: don't have versus with people from these neighborhoods. I know,
Speaker 1: certain people mess with certain rappers. And if you're gonna
Speaker 1: have rappers hanging out in your community and coming by
Speaker 1: and claiming the fame. Why would you not have them
Speaker 1: do things for your younger homeli is to try to
Speaker 1: uplift your communities. You know, I think, and I've said
Speaker 1: this once or twice, I genuinely think the culture is
Speaker 1: being exploited. Yeah, culture, But I'll tell you I think
Speaker 1: we are being exploited. Yeah. You know who does the
Speaker 1: best job, little bro of him in their hood public
Speaker 1: relationship so to speak. Oh bird Man, Yeah, stunning, he
Speaker 1: handles himself because if you ever noticed Dog around the country,
Speaker 1: he's accepted by real street cash. That's what I tell people.
Speaker 1: Birdman can go to Chicago, he can go to New York,
Speaker 1: he can come out here to l A. And he's
Speaker 1: good out here, genuinely good because he's handling not one
Speaker 1: thing you said. You don't hear xas versions out here.
Speaker 1: I remember at one time it was five six different
Speaker 1: people and watched that versus from bird Man and Wayne,
Speaker 1: Yeah and Wayne while you while you play, I think
Speaker 1: I think I've never and being around bird Man for years,
Speaker 1: when I was around him all the time, I never
Speaker 1: got that. I never got the feeling of like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to touch hands at the community or
Speaker 1: I feel like some sense of like I shouldn't be here.
Speaker 1: So it's funny that, like I said that, he was
Speaker 1: saying that, and all our thoughts in myself was really,
Speaker 1: y'all nigg is getting over the fact that you could
Speaker 1: come out here and access right you can, you have
Speaker 1: access to Our communities are unique living spaces the things
Speaker 1: that the world has. Literally, you know, Boys and the
Speaker 1: Hood did a hundred million, not juice. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like, our culture is a feminam a math.
Speaker 1: Us feel like it'd be pressure if I went to
Speaker 1: New York, right and I was like, well, I need
Speaker 1: to connect with L L. COO J. Because they are
Speaker 1: the real ancestors and fathers of hip hop. None of
Speaker 1: us would ever say that that's an honor. I love
Speaker 1: to get L L on the phone when I go
Speaker 1: to New York. I'm trying to find you know, I've
Speaker 1: talked to cool Her. I'm trying to I gotta chest
Speaker 1: to eat fish with Eric B. I thought it was
Speaker 1: a wonderful thing to to go to the origins of
Speaker 1: where hip hop was created and fellowship right with all
Speaker 1: of the brothers that's the that's literally the cultural phenoms
Speaker 1: of it. I thought it was awesome and I don't
Speaker 1: even take a picture in front of the Marcy projects.
Speaker 1: It just felt like I was opposed to be there.
Speaker 1: I never thought for two seconds that it was exploitation
Speaker 1: or this, that and the third. Like I wish Cool
Speaker 1: g rap would have called me when I was in
Speaker 1: New York glasses, you know, come by the start, have
Speaker 1: been honored. I don't get you know, this whole narrative, like,
Speaker 1: well what I think, bro? I think it's the Internet.
Speaker 1: I think it's the area that we're in now. And
Speaker 1: they kind of take it because, like you said, if
Speaker 1: you listen, if you're go on YouTube right now, they're
Speaker 1: gonna say, oh, somebody got taxed for not checking in right.
Speaker 1: It's never like that, bro, Just like you said, it's
Speaker 1: not how it's perceived to be. People. If you're smart,
Speaker 1: you're going to go to New York. Of course, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna call the homies and living I'm touching down. If
Speaker 1: I go to Louisiana, if I go to New Orleans,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna check in with fiends and everybody else down there.
Speaker 1: I just don't understand what it mean like I can't.
Speaker 1: And don't get me wrong, Gee, I'm not checking the
Speaker 1: in out of fear of people may think it's because
Speaker 1: you're literally going somewhere. Hey, bro, what's going on? I
Speaker 1: have dinner with some of that while I'm here. We're
Speaker 1: going to Sweet Chicks? What what what we've got going on?
Speaker 1: Because when I'm in New Orleans, for me, we're going
Speaker 1: to morrows with what we what we do, Like I'm figured,
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. He told me people madrade as
Speaker 1: us and speaking for us. Right when I say us
Speaker 1: the street urban culture, there's so many people masquerading right,
Speaker 1: rapping whatever long masquerading asked us, trying to speak for
Speaker 1: us and increasing silly narratives that gets spread and this
Speaker 1: ship that we all know it's not true. Like it
Speaker 1: was a conversation I was listening to she Gluchen. They
Speaker 1: were saying if a police came into his restaurant, right
Speaker 1: to actually get a beverage with He served to me like,
Speaker 1: hell yeah, It's like we all know if you've been
Speaker 1: in the streets, right, if you if you've participated, you
Speaker 1: feel me, you understand once you're not in the life
Speaker 1: that these rules don't apply to you. Sometimes you can
Speaker 1: carry the same ethics, but the rules don't apply to you,
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So I just thought it was
Speaker 1: weird that you have so many people speaking up about
Speaker 1: how we're living right and they're supposed to be representatives,
Speaker 1: but I don't feel represented. Like I'm listening to him.
Speaker 1: I just couldn't believe they thought that checking in mitt
Speaker 1: like like they said pop Smoke got killed for not
Speaker 1: checking in. Yeah, that was ridiculous. That was ridiculous. He
Speaker 1: didn't get Because I'm gonna tell you this, G. First
Speaker 1: of all, I think people when they say that stuff,
Speaker 1: I look at them like they're returned because of this.
Speaker 1: If Peter flew in the l A right now, he
Speaker 1: could fly in THEO l A tomorrow. G and me
Speaker 1: and you neither one. We're getting to alert. It's not
Speaker 1: like nigroes out here, got a phone and somebody come
Speaker 1: in at the time, rapper alert. Oh, he just flew
Speaker 1: in right now. He's on flight six to two and
Speaker 1: he's coming in. If somebody coming to your city, you're
Speaker 1: more than likely not even go. No, I agree, you're
Speaker 1: not gonna know. How how are you gonna know? The
Speaker 1: city is too big, bro, especially when you go somewhere
Speaker 1: like New York. Men, you can go to New York tomorrow,
Speaker 1: g being a hotel, being a sweet Chicken, it the
Speaker 1: whole week and nobody know what depends on the city,
Speaker 1: you know, and the conversation is kind of changing a
Speaker 1: little bit from the beginning, like talking about like in Detroit,
Speaker 1: Like if you're going to New York or you're going
Speaker 1: to l A, you can go in there for something
Speaker 1: really small. It's not public, you know, it's like a
Speaker 1: private industry type of Detroit Detroit and the biggest you
Speaker 1: can fly in Detroit, and if you don't want to
Speaker 1: be seen, you're not gonna see nobody. You understand it.
Speaker 1: But like more often than not, I mean, like from
Speaker 1: the professionals, like like from from like a hip hop
Speaker 1: music industry professional task standpoint, you can come l A
Speaker 1: and record a song or do a photo shoot or
Speaker 1: saying with New York. If you go to Cleveland, Pittsburgh, Detroit, whatever,
Speaker 1: you're probably going there to do like a live performance
Speaker 1: or something that's more public. I think what happens to
Speaker 1: most rappers now again, this is like what most abortions.
Speaker 1: What happens most rappers, right, they're trying to take advantage
Speaker 1: right of the said community. Right, That's where I was going,
Speaker 1: reputation that's been built up. Why is it great to
Speaker 1: take a picture here? Like why do you want to
Speaker 1: take a picture here? For me, most of those reasons
Speaker 1: are gonna come from why the community made it popular,
Speaker 1: So why would you not want to actually fellowship with
Speaker 1: the community you want to take advantage of or take
Speaker 1: a picture in front of. And that's like kind of
Speaker 1: the other side of it, Like it's wherever there is
Speaker 1: it perceived like value deficit, then you're gonna have the
Speaker 1: same type of conversation Like you might think, okay, well
Speaker 1: you're getting free location exposure at the in the Jay's
Speaker 1: or in Marcy's or wherever the hell you are where
Speaker 1: it's like where it starter was, Like you were talking
Speaker 1: about rappers in Detroit wanting to be able to, you know,
Speaker 1: gaining value. On the other side by participating in somebody
Speaker 1: else's show, who is a bigger name in there potentially,
Speaker 1: you know, so it breaks both ways. I think it's
Speaker 1: just people wanting they're perceived just do Yeah, it would
Speaker 1: be fair. I just don't see why would that be
Speaker 1: a big thing to go to another town where you
Speaker 1: see other brothers that come from that kind of community
Speaker 1: that you came from, but here and not say to yourself,
Speaker 1: how can I not? How can I help these brothers?
Speaker 1: What small things can I do? Feel me? Because I'm
Speaker 1: here with them and I see that the same things
Speaker 1: are going on here that's going on where I'm from,
Speaker 1: and it needs the smallest ship. Maybe you go to
Speaker 1: a town and you see a rapper right you're shooting
Speaker 1: a video right in in the four Trades and the
Speaker 1: fourth gangs to cripts on leaside, Why would you not
Speaker 1: reach out to kboy or a rapper in for trade fair?
Speaker 1: Who's the local rapper over here? You know what, Hey,
Speaker 1: I'm finish you the video over here. You know I
Speaker 1: already pay location people. Look, tell the local rapper that's
Speaker 1: from this community. Hey, man, send me a song. Let
Speaker 1: me do a verse for them, you know, when he
Speaker 1: comes together and figure out you know, hey, it's two guys. Hey,
Speaker 1: you know what, Let's send me both of those guys verses.
Speaker 1: Let me do both of those guys verses. You know
Speaker 1: what I mean? Because they are coming from opress impoverished
Speaker 1: black communities, just like minds and if nothing else, I
Speaker 1: can do this to help them. Yeah, and I think
Speaker 1: a lot of it. Like really, you can make the
Speaker 1: case that at the end of the day, there's like
Speaker 1: equal value in in either outcome. Like take for example,
Speaker 1: to walk a flock a video. For as much as
Speaker 1: that was a value add for him at the time,
Speaker 1: that also on a national scope elevated the perception value
Speaker 1: of association with the Jungles, you know afterwards. So if
Speaker 1: you happened to be a rapper from the Jungles in
Speaker 1: the subsequent few year period out of that time, which
Speaker 1: there weren't really any, but if there was one, that
Speaker 1: there was value that was you know, bilateral. That's not true,
Speaker 1: there was who benefits, which rop benefited. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: There wasn't one. If there was, if there was one
Speaker 1: from the Jungles, Malcolm's from the Jungles. There's a lot
Speaker 1: of rappers from the Jungles right now. They got a
Speaker 1: group that's finally making headway Baby Stone Guerrillas, right and
Speaker 1: why would not while the Flop called them and reach
Speaker 1: out to the lab with them? They already started the
Speaker 1: game traction, they didn't they Hot Sauce been dope for
Speaker 1: a long time out of that community, never received the benefit,
Speaker 1: never received nothing because somebody shot a video them project.
Speaker 1: Excuse me. That housing complex was much more famous before
Speaker 1: while the Flop pair came there. Remember it was just
Speaker 1: on It was just a film that did over a
Speaker 1: hundred million dollars. That Denzel one is only Oscar for
Speaker 1: for sure. Like but those are the only two times
Speaker 1: that's ever gotten like national visibility. But but again, but
Speaker 1: within the community, right, And this is what's important though, right, Pete,
Speaker 1: is within the cultures, the urban street cultures around the world,
Speaker 1: right around the country, right, they all know about the
Speaker 1: Jungles if you in the note of culture, right, if
Speaker 1: you in the note of urban street culture. So yes,
Speaker 1: in the managed in world when they saw Training Day,
Speaker 1: they found out what the junkers were the mainstream world.
Speaker 1: But us right within the urban street cultures all around
Speaker 1: have all heard about the Jungles. All have heard about
Speaker 1: the Jungle. So again, I don't think there's no value.
Speaker 1: And I think sometimes that's the mistake that homies from
Speaker 1: the community make, really believing that if these people are around,
Speaker 1: it brings more value to their community. It's not unless
Speaker 1: some I they decide to institute value the actual person
Speaker 1: taking advantage of it, or you have to monetize that
Speaker 1: person's presence in the community. Anyway, it's not just gonna
Speaker 1: get more popular. People gonna like, hey, I want to
Speaker 1: go there too. It ain't like somebody else came with
Speaker 1: a hundred you know, let's say, walk a flock of
Speaker 1: pay fifty thousand. That's the shoots video. Nobody came back
Speaker 1: and said I have a hundred and fifty thousand to shoot.
Speaker 1: It ain't like, you know, Katie Parris, like, you know what,
Speaker 1: I want the same video. I'm gonna give you guys
Speaker 1: a hundred and fifty thousand. That's not what's happening, you
Speaker 1: feel me. What's happening is right those the say artists
Speaker 1: don't really benefit because you're actually taking something. You're actually
Speaker 1: taking what makes it special, you know, the newness the
Speaker 1: first time you've seen it. We had never seen a
Speaker 1: rapper with you know, in the jungles backed by all
Speaker 1: of these people, and there's a ton of fantastic rappers
Speaker 1: that's from around the way. Joe Moses from Brims fifteen
Speaker 1: ten minutes away, Hot Sauce from over there. He's really
Speaker 1: spectacular malcomes from over there. Uncle manages from over There's
Speaker 1: different people from over there, a lot of bloods from
Speaker 1: around the area, but they have never had the benefit
Speaker 1: of being smacked dead on nicke Let with all of
Speaker 1: the niggers from BPS behind them to say, hey, we
Speaker 1: are supporting this entity. Yeah you know what, bro, I
Speaker 1: feel what you're seeing when you put it that way,
Speaker 1: like like, let's go back to the walking flogging video
Speaker 1: with you and Peter both saying in this sence pretty
Speaker 1: much that none of the rappers over there actually got
Speaker 1: the benefit from that exposure. When you're thinking about it
Speaker 1: like that, you correct. And that's why I think as
Speaker 1: a community even with this concept of checking in, because
Speaker 1: checking in makes it like I said, listening to those
Speaker 1: two specific brothers had them conversation or even when I
Speaker 1: was talking to Van Lathon on something they're working on
Speaker 1: for their stuff. It's this negative connotation on checking in
Speaker 1: where it's like, oh, you know, if you go to
Speaker 1: l A, you need to LA niggas so you don't
Speaker 1: get robbed. No, no, you call l A niggas right
Speaker 1: to do your security to make sure other l A
Speaker 1: niggas don't rob you. Who want to rob you for money, right,
Speaker 1: that's the point of it. Right, you have security, or
Speaker 1: you have regular security that you fly with, you know.
Speaker 1: But again, if you're from the urban street community, why
Speaker 1: would you not give people an opportunity? You know what
Speaker 1: I mean unless you can afford you know, the the
Speaker 1: guys from special forces like Dr j Dr Dre Gotta dude,
Speaker 1: that's probably about five ft ten five ft none look
Speaker 1: like you eat your heart No wait man, So if
Speaker 1: you don't have you know, the best security, right, why
Speaker 1: would you not employed brothers from different communities? You feel me?
Speaker 1: Where impoverished people looking to actually you know, pay their rent?
Speaker 1: Like why would you not look to employ different people
Speaker 1: from communities, especially if you want to partake in it?
Speaker 1: That just makes sense. Like somebody asked me, was t
Speaker 1: I being exploited? I just laughing. My dog t I
Speaker 1: is who he is. Nobody has exploring tr TR loves
Speaker 1: doing cool things for other black folks, feel me? And
Speaker 1: and again longest said community is providing a value, Like
Speaker 1: what are we really saying? Like it ain't like a
Speaker 1: contrived idea for the most part all the time? Right
Speaker 1: of like when you rob them and I'll stop you
Speaker 1: from getting robbed. It's just not It's just a bunch
Speaker 1: of poor people who have a lot more access to
Speaker 1: different parts of the city than other places we go.
Speaker 1: You know, certain things people don't go pull off in Manhattan.
Speaker 1: I mean, they don't go do that ship in Manhattan.
Speaker 1: It's different. You know, the community will find this way
Speaker 1: to Hollywood. They will find this way to Hollywood and
Speaker 1: make you a victim. So again, it's not likely to happen,
Speaker 1: but it has happened. Like you got the clip where
Speaker 1: Brucey was talking about l A is dangerous because because
Speaker 1: you don't know anybody out there, you need and you
Speaker 1: need to deal with the people that are out there,
Speaker 1: you know, in a in a paraphrase, and the show
Speaker 1: it was right after the Kodak Black shooting. Somebody asked
Speaker 1: me about that. First of all, I think, man, a
Speaker 1: lot of people that talk about l A on these
Speaker 1: social media networks and just in media in general have
Speaker 1: no clue on what they're talking about. And that and
Speaker 1: that's and that's my point still, That's why I really
Speaker 1: was getting down to us, like I'm starting to realize.
Speaker 1: I'm starting to realize that it's a lot of people
Speaker 1: claiming that their hip hop or part of hip hop,
Speaker 1: or represent what we represent, right, and they speak for
Speaker 1: us or speak on us. Yet it always seems like
Speaker 1: it's just incorrect, you know, I mean all the time.
Speaker 1: I'm starting to notice that, and it's starting to really
Speaker 1: be annoying because it's like, if you on of us,
Speaker 1: how could you have this wrong? Now I'm starting to think,
Speaker 1: you know, you just masquerade and that's one of us
Speaker 1: and it's not real anyway. That's probably true as well.
Speaker 1: That comes back to the exploitation. If you're free the
Speaker 1: good majority of people out here putting two on the TMG,
Speaker 1: I mean I feel that I feel a two on
Speaker 1: a tend right. But now again, like I said, when
Speaker 1: you really analyze it, we provide a lot greater value
Speaker 1: of people, you know, benefiting from our culture, right then
Speaker 1: we actually are taking from people. I just don't know
Speaker 1: what type of black man feel me with that has
Speaker 1: this negative connotation. Don't check in like I've heard people
Speaker 1: argue about it, Nick, I ain't checking in with nobody.
Speaker 1: Nick's got me funked up, Like, what do you mean
Speaker 1: You're not checking me? You mean to tell me you
Speaker 1: don't have partners in this city that you call and
Speaker 1: you let them know you're around. Do you not want
Speaker 1: to see your brothers from you know, Flatbush, New York?
Speaker 1: Do you not want to see your brothers from New
Speaker 1: Orleans or Miami or Houston? Feel if I went to Houston,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna hitting my boys. I mean zero, feel me,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna hit my guys that I mess with the
Speaker 1: guys in the street. This is just wherever I go
Speaker 1: because I literally intend to fellowship with the Brothers. I
Speaker 1: don't know what the hell happened to us right as
Speaker 1: a community to where we don't want to fellowship with
Speaker 1: the Brothers. Bro, I'm gonna tell you what the right now,
Speaker 1: we're basically living in the Have you ever seen that
Speaker 1: movie Idiocracy? No, if you get a chance to watch it,
Speaker 1: have you seen Indiocracy? Pete m h um A bunch
Speaker 1: of but the whole premise of the movie, it was
Speaker 1: a movie that was supposed to supposed to shot in
Speaker 1: the future right toward the vegetation on the planet that
Speaker 1: died because they were and um they were using instead
Speaker 1: of using wiada Um water to Florida vegetation, they were
Speaker 1: using gatorade. And so this guy came from the past
Speaker 1: and said, well, they thought he was a genius because
Speaker 1: he pretty much fixed every problem they had. Instead of
Speaker 1: using gatorade, he said, well, this is white vegetation is
Speaker 1: growing because y'all using gatorade. He started using water. The
Speaker 1: people were pretty much idiots because they got a dick
Speaker 1: television program and him's the name idiocracy. But that's the
Speaker 1: era that we're living in right now. We live in
Speaker 1: the Arab man that where people believe any damn thing.
Speaker 1: Somebody said, it's but but social media right is turning
Speaker 1: into the home of bad advice and bad advice. It's
Speaker 1: just spreading rampantly, like like beauty standards are being colonized
Speaker 1: by one simple idea rooted most likely in a white person.
Speaker 1: That's just weird, you know what I mean? Like um,
Speaker 1: checking in fellowshipping with old brothers from from other street
Speaker 1: urban communities is being frowned upon and somehow you are
Speaker 1: you know, you are less than if you fellowship with
Speaker 1: your brothers around the globe. I mean, what type of
Speaker 1: person don't want to help other black people? Again? Right,
Speaker 1: it's like I don't know, Like I don't know what's
Speaker 1: going on, and it's getting worse and worse I hear
Speaker 1: a lot of people Like I listened to certain people
Speaker 1: and again, like we talked about this Pete. They were
Speaker 1: telling me that hip hop is a bad influence on
Speaker 1: the community. And I laughed at him, like, no, hip
Speaker 1: hop is the community. Like you know, somebody said, drill
Speaker 1: music is a bad influence on the community. No, drill music.
Speaker 1: Drilling is what's going on in Chicago in the community,
Speaker 1: all futures music. Right. The opioid he you know, it's
Speaker 1: a bad it's it's bad thing on the community. No,
Speaker 1: the community is addicted to opioids. And he's telling you that.
Speaker 1: He's representing that with conversation. And and black people are
Speaker 1: getting to a weird space, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: And and actually they've been here, they've been here like historically. Right,
Speaker 1: we are so prideful as a people, right, we want
Speaker 1: to say, whatever problems we got going on, let's leave
Speaker 1: in the here. We're gonna walk outside, everybody together and
Speaker 1: act like everything is okay. Right, that's what we're saying
Speaker 1: right now. We want to say, well, you know what,
Speaker 1: it ain't that bad, you know, okay, So instead of
Speaker 1: trying to cure you know, what's going on right in Chicago. Right,
Speaker 1: you got a bunch of poor, you know, impoverished and
Speaker 1: oppressed children, right, trying to figure out life, very little opportunity,
Speaker 1: very little resources, very little everything. Right, Yet there is
Speaker 1: a bunch of surplus, you know, professional big farm of
Speaker 1: medication that has been flooded through that community. Right, and
Speaker 1: then that train stops right where there are all these
Speaker 1: automatic weapons, so guns that usually poor people couldn't afford,
Speaker 1: or or people who don't have to be responsible, right,
Speaker 1: or could be intellectually lazy, that they could never afford
Speaker 1: these guns. You know, to get an a K forty
Speaker 1: seven is a thousand, two thousand dollars, So a poor,
Speaker 1: impoverished you know, motherfucker's don't start. Remember was talking to
Speaker 1: to the homie about it still, and he was saying,
Speaker 1: they to see a K forty sevens in l a
Speaker 1: tonign start selling drugs. You just couldn't afford a K
Speaker 1: forty seven. Most of the the the violence happening with
Speaker 1: guns pre you know, crack cocaine was you know, grandpa
Speaker 1: double barrel shotgun that somebody sawed off the fucking barrel,
Speaker 1: or or somebody's uncle long stupid. That's thirty eight. And
Speaker 1: then crack came and now they're buying you know, oozies,
Speaker 1: technos a ks, But in Chicago the money didn't come
Speaker 1: through yet. These are evan twelve fourteen year old kids
Speaker 1: right having access. They have got their hands on fully
Speaker 1: automatic weapons and big form of medicine that they are
Speaker 1: using recreationally to try to escape their circumstances. To me,
Speaker 1: what they think is in front of them and what
Speaker 1: they think is their challenge. And then everybody within our
Speaker 1: culture wants to talk about why are the rappers rapping
Speaker 1: about what's going on in Chicago? They shouldn't rap about it.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, well, why are you more mad at
Speaker 1: the actual art itself versus being upset at the inspiration
Speaker 1: for the art? Exactly like, I don't hear as many
Speaker 1: black people arguing, well, how did these twelve and thirteen
Speaker 1: year old kids get fully automatic weapons? When I was
Speaker 1: thirteen and fourteen, when the seven those first pull guns
Speaker 1: on us and kill nknok, I had to buy five.
Speaker 1: It was a hundred and twenty dollars and it was
Speaker 1: a piece of ship. You feel me? Yet, these niggas
Speaker 1: is twelve and thirteen and fourteen and they have f
Speaker 1: and n scars in a K forty sevens and glocks
Speaker 1: for me with forty round magazines in it. And I'm
Speaker 1: listening to people who are supposed to represent or come
Speaker 1: from where we come from, say this. You're you're rapping
Speaker 1: about what's going going in Chicago. You know you're it's
Speaker 1: your funk because you're rapping about it instead of being like, oh,
Speaker 1: now I know what's going on. Let's figure out what
Speaker 1: happened in Chicago to make this happen. No, that would
Speaker 1: be too much like right for them to look at
Speaker 1: the art and say, damn, what is that reflecting? We
Speaker 1: need to go deal with the reflection and some peak
Speaker 1: could value like it's like makeup like with girls for me,
Speaker 1: like they they they're not taking care of their health
Speaker 1: right and not drinking enough water. It's a thousand things
Speaker 1: they're not doing for their skin to be correct right
Speaker 1: and getting act mee and guess what they're putting foundation
Speaker 1: right over the acne right, and they're just patient it
Speaker 1: on there instead of actually dealing but why the fund
Speaker 1: do you have acne? Instead of dealing with the bumps.
Speaker 1: That's what's being hip hop went from being our news
Speaker 1: and telling us what's going on in each of our
Speaker 1: urban street communities around the country right to Oh it's
Speaker 1: your fault, this is happening. Who the funk blames the
Speaker 1: newspaper for the news. It's like, I think there's a
Speaker 1: I want to say, like the perspective crisis. So this
Speaker 1: is something you know where if it's within the community itself,
Speaker 1: nobody wants to like I was saying the other day,
Speaker 1: after what the hell it even was about, nobody wants
Speaker 1: to like be already too, you know, not in the
Speaker 1: legal sense literally, but like class action and blame. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So if you are in the
Speaker 1: community and you can possibly be tied culpable to a flaw,
Speaker 1: it's like, well, I'm not gonna go there. It has
Speaker 1: to be something else, has to be something that I
Speaker 1: had nothing to do with because I'm perfect and I
Speaker 1: don't want to accept that I might have made a
Speaker 1: mistake or you So who who can I blamehiself? That
Speaker 1: guy he's not me and everyone can and everyone can
Speaker 1: see him. And it's funny you said that because that conversation,
Speaker 1: that that narrative I just spoke of, where they're blaming
Speaker 1: the newspaper for the news. It's coming from people who
Speaker 1: this culture, right, who who expressing this culture made them wealthy?
Speaker 1: I tell you that's part of the problem right there.
Speaker 1: We can't blame nobody but ourselves. Bro, I'm not fuck y'all. Listen,
Speaker 1: listen to me, Bro, I'm gonna tell you, um, most
Speaker 1: of the media that's a hip hop media, right it's
Speaker 1: owned and operated by white people right under the guys
Speaker 1: that is black people, that it is black You get
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But that don't matter. Why are we
Speaker 1: being mad that it's being reported versus what's happening? Like,
Speaker 1: why are we not getting down to the route right again?
Speaker 1: Like checking in right? Checking in is a way for
Speaker 1: brothers within the community that is hip hop, all these
Speaker 1: urban street communities is a way that we can parlay
Speaker 1: with each other, break brand with each other, experience these
Speaker 1: others cultures up close and personal, build a bond with
Speaker 1: people from around the fucking world that go through the
Speaker 1: same ship, that's oppressed by the same person. And some
Speaker 1: fucking how niggas have allowed that to turn into being exploited.
Speaker 1: That's crazy. It's it's again, it's another universal human behavior thing.
Speaker 1: Like I'll draw a parallels so likely. I'm a compare
Speaker 1: two things, so I'm which one do you want me
Speaker 1: to say first? The black one or the white one?
Speaker 1: There's they're similar in in inherent nature. Coming to white
Speaker 1: white one first. Okay, don't tell me, tell me the
Speaker 1: white Can you hear this? Ship steal? Can fuck believe this?
Speaker 1: I gotta put up with fall the nonsense. Can't even
Speaker 1: make a goddamn comparison on the half a comparison. So
Speaker 1: here's half a comparison. You have a lot of talk
Speaker 1: about absentee parents or absentee fathers correct, and a lot
Speaker 1: of upper like like upper upper tax bracket white neighborhoods.
Speaker 1: You have two professional parents that work like ninety hours
Speaker 1: a week. You have a surgeon and say a lawyer,
Speaker 1: they work fucking fifteen hours a day. Tom's five or six, right,
Speaker 1: and their and their daughter is fourteen years old and
Speaker 1: has no fucking sense of self. She has a weird
Speaker 1: eating disorder. Like My high school was on the local
Speaker 1: fucking news, my ninth grade high school because girls were
Speaker 1: snort and riddling like cocaine, trying to drop weight. It's
Speaker 1: for five ft, six hundred and seven pounds to start
Speaker 1: before they got the riddle and in their fucking sinuses.
Speaker 1: So what do they do? Oh, it's Cosmopolitan magazines fault.
Speaker 1: It's the easiest thing to point profiled. It's not you,
Speaker 1: and it's you know, you can find a deflection apparatus
Speaker 1: in a lot of places if you look for one
Speaker 1: that is crazy. I never knew that. It's just's weird
Speaker 1: but crazy. That's my point. Like, I'm getting sick of
Speaker 1: what's supposed to be the culture, right or people supposedly
Speaker 1: from the culture talking ship about the culture. And it's like, no,
Speaker 1: gu mean to tell me you don't think drill music
Speaker 1: is bad for the community, bitch, Drill music is the community.
Speaker 1: Rappers didn't make this ship up. They didn't start. Hey,
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm gonna make up some ship and
Speaker 1: just start shooting motherfucker's and it's gonna be my whole album.
Speaker 1: It's not happening, you feel me. And but I'm gonna
Speaker 1: create this whole world of twelve and thirteen and fourteen
Speaker 1: year old people having guns killing each other, and then
Speaker 1: I'm going to inspire the world to kill each other.
Speaker 1: The funk are you talking about? Because it's actually happening.
Speaker 1: You're mad at Chief keith because it's happening, and he's
Speaker 1: telling you what's happening. The fund's wrong too. Who the
Speaker 1: fuck gets mad at the newspaper for the Oh, you know,
Speaker 1: I can't believe they printed this real story. How dare you?
Speaker 1: But you know what, Still, I've heard stories right of
Speaker 1: other black families telling me, like if a kid got
Speaker 1: touched in the house, instead of them really calling the police,
Speaker 1: getting the authorities evolved, they just try to sweep it
Speaker 1: under the room. It happens. It happens all the time.
Speaker 1: And that's in the black community. G we have a
Speaker 1: tendency to internalize everything. You've seen a number of households,
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna tell you what was really big and stuff.
Speaker 1: Like the Midwest, maybe even not even the West coast,
Speaker 1: you would have instance of, um, the teenage girls getting
Speaker 1: wraith and abused by different family members in the house.
Speaker 1: The women in the house, the older women know about it,
Speaker 1: but they don't say nothing because of them that shame.
Speaker 1: They just figured that it's something and if they did
Speaker 1: get addressed, it's always the girl's fault. Well, you knew
Speaker 1: you should have been wearing those shorts around your aunthor
Speaker 1: And I'm not gonna get that far because that is
Speaker 1: just start getting you know the truth though, bro. But
Speaker 1: what bothers me is we have became the same thing
Speaker 1: that have that's gave our community of voice. We're mad
Speaker 1: at what the voice is saying. That's not news though.
Speaker 1: I mean it's no because I'm not used to it
Speaker 1: being people that are supposed to be like us from
Speaker 1: the community. Well, I mean you mentioned on the live
Speaker 1: what's your name? It's different with See the Lord's Tucker.
Speaker 1: See the Lord Tucker is not from this See the
Speaker 1: Lords tuckers from another time. I get there, the black
Speaker 1: person from Beverly Hills talking about gang banging. That person ignorant.
Speaker 1: Let me ask a question, yea, how old is See
Speaker 1: the Lords Tucker at that time? About forty five? Probably
Speaker 1: so back then. How old is the speaker now? About
Speaker 1: forty five? Probably to say they close from a different time.
Speaker 1: I mean there's a whole generation and change separating like
Speaker 1: do or Die from Dirk thirty years of part in age. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's real. It's a good point. That's real, good point.
Speaker 1: And gee, I think that's the biggest thing, Bro. I
Speaker 1: think it's just the era we in. Bro. It gotta be.
Speaker 1: I think it's the area we and brother, I think, um,
Speaker 1: today people learned as informed as we are. You remember
Speaker 1: back and before, and you would think it would be
Speaker 1: the opposite now because people have access to information, endless information, bro,
Speaker 1: but they do not use it. They would rather they
Speaker 1: would prefer to rather listen to Bookie on YouTube. He
Speaker 1: has a better time distributed information job Dog than someone else.
Speaker 1: That's um, that's actually first on something. We listened to
Speaker 1: the wrong information today, Bro, that's share. You're right, how
Speaker 1: the funk is there more information and motherfucker's it's more ignorant.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. I wish we had access. That's
Speaker 1: that's the issue itself. It's it's it's a surface area
Speaker 1: of all your ratio and motherfucker's is more. I saw
Speaker 1: motherfucker talking about my song like I can't believe he
Speaker 1: made this up, this story and it was a rapper
Speaker 1: and he was like, this doesn't even sound like it
Speaker 1: could be true. Tupac. There's no way possible Tupac could
Speaker 1: have got murdered by another gang member. It had to
Speaker 1: be the government. And I was like, because it's what
Speaker 1: the funk is going on to where mother How could
Speaker 1: you have access to this much fucking information easily in
Speaker 1: the of your hand and be ignorant? Think about it
Speaker 1: like this, though, Imagine an old school news stand, right
Speaker 1: You've got racks of maybe fifteen different newspapers. Right now,
Speaker 1: you go to a news standard, there's fifteen hundred different newspapers.
Speaker 1: It takes all the time in your day just to
Speaker 1: read which newspapers are there. You don't even have time
Speaker 1: to pick up the newspaper and read the article. That's
Speaker 1: kind of what you see now, people are you're so
Speaker 1: inundated with the headline of the pis sure you see
Speaker 1: ten thousands of them. There weren't ten thousand head lines
Speaker 1: of pictures before it was five and you could read
Speaker 1: the whole story. And now people fail to look at
Speaker 1: something go and there's no there's no critical thought happening either.
Speaker 1: That's the biggest problem. I see ship all the time,
Speaker 1: and you know what, that's one crap, and I look
Speaker 1: it up immediately and I go, that's proven crap. Here's
Speaker 1: the court case right here. I was thinking this. I
Speaker 1: was like, we spent entirely too much time trying to
Speaker 1: teach people intellect versus educating intelligent people. Everybody got obsessed
Speaker 1: with You know why that is the education system doesn't
Speaker 1: want to be accountable for shortcomings. So it's easy to
Speaker 1: teach information than to teach thought processes. Here, who was
Speaker 1: the first President of United States? George Washington? Not like,
Speaker 1: how did George Washington become the first President of the
Speaker 1: United States. You know, one question is a lot easier
Speaker 1: to regurgitate than the other, So it's a lot easier
Speaker 1: to teach at least you know these things. Yeah, but listen, Jeene,
Speaker 1: Peter just hit it right in the head. Man. We
Speaker 1: have a bunch of people. People have a tendency to
Speaker 1: want to believe what they want to believe. You don't
Speaker 1: always tell you people want to choose. You don't always
Speaker 1: say you want to win the way you want to
Speaker 1: win versus just winning. People would rather here a fabricated
Speaker 1: story dog and the truth, I mean, the lie is
Speaker 1: much more. The truth is the ugly truth. Remember when
Speaker 1: I was joking with you, I told you just lie
Speaker 1: to me, bro a lot of beautiful dogs. Everything's gonna
Speaker 1: be okay. That's all you need to hear some time.
Speaker 1: Shake up girdles, heels, lashes, weeds, beautiful lies, very beautiful
Speaker 1: lives Bro good looking out for tuning into the No
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Speaker 1: This episode was recorded right here on the West coast
Speaker 1: of the USA and produced by my homeboy A King,
Speaker 1: for the Black Effect Podcast Network and I Heart Radio.
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