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Speaker 1: Welcome to Is this great game or what? And our

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Speaker 1: special guest this week is Don Mattingly, one of the

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Speaker 1: greatest players that I ever covered in my forty five

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Speaker 1: years of covering baseball. Now he is the bench coach

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Speaker 1: for the Philadelphia Phillies. John, this is Jeff Kirchin. Meet

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Speaker 1: my son.

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Speaker 2: Jeff.

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Speaker 3: I see the good Philly hat on. I haven't seen

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Speaker 3: that color yet, but I'm sure my young son will

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Speaker 3: find it.

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Speaker 2: Yes, of course he is good. I mean, we had so.

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Speaker 3: Much Blue Jay stuff and as soon as he knew

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Speaker 3: we were going to Philly, here comes the Philly stuff

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Speaker 3: starts coming and showing up at the house. So he's

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Speaker 3: not afraid to switch gears.

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Speaker 1: Right, And of course Don Mattingly's son, one of his

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Speaker 1: sons is Preston Mattingly, who is the general manager of

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Speaker 1: the Philadelphia Phillies. So we'll start right there. Don you

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Speaker 1: get you get to work with your son, Like, how

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Speaker 1: cool is that?

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Speaker 3: I'm looking forward to it, uh, Press, And I've always

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Speaker 3: uh he's always called.

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Speaker 2: Me like on.

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Speaker 3: So when he was working in San Diego, he would

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Speaker 3: call me and I'm managing the Martins. Hey, this guy's

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Speaker 3: on the waiver. You guys should pick him up. You

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Speaker 3: should do this, you should do that. I'm like, Press

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Speaker 3: is probably getting coffee for people at that point, right,

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Speaker 3: and so he's telling me what to do, and I'm like,

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Speaker 3: I'm not the GM, Press, I just like whatever they

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Speaker 3: give me. So, Mike Hill, I'd say, what what's this

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Speaker 3: guy looking like? Press calls me so, But yeah, it's

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Speaker 3: gonna be fun. It comes with two sides of the coin,

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Speaker 3: right though, Garth the Garth Brooks thing where you know,

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Speaker 3: the good is being able to work there. The tough

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Speaker 3: part is it's it is family. It is two sides.

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Speaker 3: Locker room, front office. That's changed a lot over the years,

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Speaker 3: where it's a lot more energy, changeable, a lot more

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Speaker 3: When I played, honestly, the front office was barely in

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Speaker 3: the locker room, right. People thought George Steinmanner lived in

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Speaker 3: the locker room. He was hardly ever in there, or

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Speaker 3: the GM. I probably couldn't tell you who they were

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Speaker 3: most of the time. But that's changed, so I think

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Speaker 3: it makes it a little easier.

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Speaker 2: It does.

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Speaker 3: I do want to make sure I build my relationship

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Speaker 3: where I really value the trust of guys that you're

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Speaker 3: not running upstairs and telling everything and anything that happens

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Speaker 1: Right, And as you know, done, the Pat Gillicks of

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Speaker 1: the world never went into the clubhouse. They never felt

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Speaker 1: like that was their place. Their place was up in

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Speaker 1: the booth watching the games. And just just another of

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Speaker 1: the major changes that we've seen in the game over

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Speaker 1: over the last forty to fifty years. It's just unbelievable.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no doubt, it's a it's a it's a change,

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Speaker 3: and it's probably for the better because I think guys

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Speaker 3: a conversation with him, right, and it may not be

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Speaker 3: So I think it's a good thing. I just came

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Speaker 3: the locker room. I feel like that's the space. There's

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Speaker 3: not much space for these guys nowadays to go. Everybody's

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Speaker 3: places on the plane. Is a great place for the guys.

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Speaker 3: The locker room has to be as good as it

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Speaker 3: can be, but it's not as good as it used

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Speaker 1: Before we get to baseball done, just tell me the

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Speaker 1: last time you shot a basketball.

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Speaker 3: Oh, well, on a little gold the other day, because

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Speaker 3: we got one out in our barn outside, but we

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Speaker 3: have one downstairs that Louis plays on a little bit

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Speaker 3: But yeah, it's been it's you know, if I get

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Speaker 1: Right, what is a little goal? Like how high is

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Speaker 3: Bathing in doors in the basement?

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Speaker 1: Right, so Jeffrey could dunk it on the six foot hoop? Right,

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Speaker 1: jeff I've got I've got like a two and a

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Speaker 4: I could definitely jam on that thing, Dad, that's for sure.

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Speaker 1: Right, don't be modest here. How good a shooter were

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Speaker 3: I was okay. I don't think I was a great shooter.

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Speaker 3: I probably more could get to the get to the rim,

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Speaker 3: handled the ball really well, probably shot too much. Honestly,

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Speaker 3: I think our teams would have been better if I

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Speaker 1: Now, you're six feet tall?

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Speaker 2: Could you?

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Speaker 1: I hope I don't insult you here? Could you dunk it?

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Speaker 1: In high school.

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Speaker 3: At one point, I could dunk a volleyball, right, Oh.

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Speaker 2: But I couldn't handle the basketball enough.

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Speaker 1: It's a dunk, so you can't palm a basketball.

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Speaker 3: But usually the ball you would use in a game

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Speaker 1: And how good a player was Preston? He was really

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Speaker 1: he was a really good basketball player, agreed.

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Speaker 2: Really good.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And he was you know, I think pressed is

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Speaker 3: like a jitterbug type guy. He was more of that

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Speaker 4: Done as you imagine.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 4: We're a father son podcast. We talk about baseball, but

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Speaker 4: basketball is a big part of our lives. And I

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Speaker 4: remember the first time I blew past my dad in

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Speaker 4: a pickup game, and that was a that was a big,

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Speaker 4: big accomplishment. He was not happy about that. We were

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Speaker 4: time and listen he I think before he got his

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Speaker 4: one on one every single time. But what was it

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Speaker 4: like for you the first time Preston, you know, took

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Speaker 4: you to the post or one of your boys, really

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Speaker 4: kind of like you said, Oh, I don't have a

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Speaker 3: Pressed it happened a lot quicker than I was, Like,

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah.

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Speaker 3: He got good quick, and I was like out of shape,

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Speaker 3: and he would just dribble around and try to get

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Speaker 3: me to chase him, and I'd be breathing heavy. But

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Speaker 3: I was probably pretty good inside. He would have more

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Speaker 3: trouble with me inside. My brothers six' four played, underneath

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Speaker 3: learned how to score on those guys and compete with those,

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Speaker 3: guys SO i was probably. BETTER i could push him

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Speaker 3: had to go outside with, HIM i was at that,

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Speaker 3: point it's too.

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Speaker 1: Late Don Peter gammon's told me a story once where

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Speaker 1: he went to a bar with you and you were

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Speaker 1: shooting free throws in the bar and you made like

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Speaker 1: some absurd number of free throws in a. Row would

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Speaker 1: you please tell us that story Because peter told me

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Speaker 1: this thirty years.

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Speaker 2: Ago, WELL i had.

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Speaker 3: A restaurant at one, point, right not a great move

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Speaker 3: in my life on a, restaurant but it was fun

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Speaker 3: for a. While but we put a hoop in, there

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Speaker 3: Was Shenaniga's chicago would hang out in there when we'd

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Speaker 3: i always thought that was, cool, Right and so we

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Speaker 3: put a hoop in our. Bar we'd have a free

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Speaker 3: throw contest for, charity you, know every. Year but you,

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Speaker 3: know you get where you shoot pretty good in. There

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Speaker 3: SO i WAS i got WHERE i was pretty. Good

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Speaker 3: like if we got a hundred free throws in high,

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Speaker 3: School i'm probably Hitting i'm hitting the high eighties.

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Speaker 2: For, sure but you, know sometimes More.

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Speaker 1: JOHN i went to a bar In minneapolis a long

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Speaker 1: time ago With Mike, flannagan one of the great shooters,

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Speaker 1: Bar just like the one And Mike flanning in and eye,

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Speaker 1: GEEZ i can't believe our self serving in.

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Speaker 5: This we ran.

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Speaker 1: That we ran the hoop for like an hour and

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Speaker 1: a half and these guys got really pissed at. Us

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Speaker 1: And Jim, evans the, umpire was shooting with, us and

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Speaker 1: he almost got in a fight.

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Speaker 2: Right. There umpires Margin so, jeff it was so.

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Speaker 1: Great these umpires who are so good at what they,

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Speaker 1: do they're gonna yelled at all. Day he goes out

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Speaker 3: Bad, yeah those places are. Fun, Yeah so, Yeah peter.

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Speaker 3: CAME i think he came into an article for maybe

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Speaker 2: Days so we took him in there and schooled him

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Speaker 1: Thing And peter also wrote a great story don About

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Speaker 1: dinner With you And Way bogs And Ted. Williams in

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Speaker 1: nineteen eighty, SIX i Interviewed Ted williams a few. Times

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Speaker 1: never been more scared in my life because he was

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Speaker 1: so Intimidating what was it like for you to sit

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Speaker 1: next to one of the two greatest hitters of all

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Speaker 1: time and talk? Hitting what was that?

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Speaker 2: Like it was not.

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Speaker 3: Comfortable ted's kind of one of those guys that and

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Speaker 3: it's the first time Meeting ted' SO i didn't really Know.

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Speaker 3: TED i Think boggsy might have known him obviously From

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Speaker 3: boston spring. Trainings i'm Assuming ted would come around or

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Speaker 3: they would have met. Somehow But ted is big and, bold,

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Speaker 3: right you, know AS I i kind of liking him

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Speaker 3: To Bobby. Knight bobby was like, that he was a big, man.

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Speaker 2: And he was he was like it.

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Speaker 3: NOT i wouldn't say, loud but like sure of himself

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Speaker 3: ran the. Conversation and that's kind of what it was

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Speaker 3: like With, ted is that that's the way that. Went

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Speaker 3: but it was a lot of fun talking hit and

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Speaker 3: we just sit there drank, beer eating. SHRIMP i think

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Speaker 3: it was T O peppi's In tampa on the other,

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Speaker 3: from where we stayed in the spring training.

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Speaker 4: Game was there anything he said that you took with

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Speaker 4: you in that moment and you Thought, Wow i'm talking

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Speaker 4: to maybe the greatest hitter of all. Time was there

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Speaker 4: a nugget or something that you still think about maybe

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Speaker 4: even tell your, players you know?

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Speaker 3: What it was more than anything that it was kind

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Speaker 3: I'd Say i'm probably more of a natural left, Okay

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Speaker 1: Right so in eighty, six don when when Lou panella

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Speaker 3: Well at that, POINT i hadn't thrown right handed enough

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Speaker 3: Honestly because some of the plays are are right handed,

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Speaker 1: Right Don we know you've told me, THIS. Keithr nand

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Speaker 4: That, yeah these are the kind of things my dad loses.

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Speaker 4: LEFTIES i can't believe. It so these are the kind

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Speaker 4: course across all the organizations that you've touched In baseball

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Speaker 4: on and, SAID i am the Biggest Don mattingly. Fan

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Speaker 4: Now i'm not going to go down that rabbit. Hole

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Speaker 4: i'm not going to you, know make you feel. Uncomfortable

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Speaker 4: you which is, asking did you really catch a two

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Speaker 3: Fun but it was thirty minutes of, like let's. Go

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Speaker 1: This the two greatest defensive first basement THAT i have ever.

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Speaker 1: Seen we're fishing together and they Caught what a perfect

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Speaker 3: ONCE i was good and we had to have some work.

442
00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:03,440
Speaker 3: Done and it was IN i think it was A

443
00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:08,760
Speaker 3: knoxville and so we go and the guy's gonna come

444
00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:10,679
Speaker 3: And i'm, like let's just take. It we're gonna drive

445
00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:12,359
Speaker 3: it home the next. Morning let's just take it down

446
00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:15,400
Speaker 3: the highway. Back SO i take it down the. Highway

447
00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:18,440
Speaker 3: we're coming, back and there's a curve as you're coming

448
00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:21,920
Speaker 3: back into this little camp. Area and if you any

449
00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:25,800
Speaker 3: anybody's driven something where the wheels are basically behind, you

450
00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:29,160
Speaker 3: if you don't go out a little bit or take

451
00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:31,160
Speaker 3: it to the edge and then, turn then you're back.

452
00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:34,080
Speaker 3: In just so this hill was kind of like a

453
00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:37,000
Speaker 3: curve that had like a little hill on, it AND

454
00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:39,080
Speaker 3: i turned it too, quick AND i hear.

455
00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:45,480
Speaker 2: And i'm just making me sick to my.

456
00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:48,440
Speaker 3: Stomach and NOW i get back AND i park it

457
00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:51,320
Speaker 3: AND i look at. It it's LIKE i was gonna

458
00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:53,200
Speaker 3: drive it on the next, day and it's, like, well

459
00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:55,600
Speaker 3: we had to rent a car and.

460
00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:58,320
Speaker 2: Drive it back and come back and get it a little.

461
00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:01,000
Speaker 2: Later so, YEAH i do. It my kids love to

462
00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:01,720
Speaker 2: talk to me about.

463
00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:08,800
Speaker 3: That all, right glad you guys Brought that was.

464
00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:10,160
Speaker 2: Good, jeff what's the last?

465
00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:13,480
Speaker 4: Question the guy, Asked, Yeah russell's doing all the interview

466
00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:15,520
Speaker 4: prep for us because he has one more. Question he,

467
00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:16,320
Speaker 4: SAID i mean.

468
00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:17,560
Speaker 2: He's getting some stuff out of the.

469
00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:23,440
Speaker 4: Art, yes, man he's asking Ken don maddingly name all

470
00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:26,000
Speaker 4: of the people in The Simpsons softball.

471
00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:32,119
Speaker 2: SONG i didn't know there was a. Song i'd say,

472
00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:36,720
Speaker 2: No i'd say, NO i. Cannot, Okay, well think about the.

473
00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:37,679
Speaker 2: GUYS i.

474
00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:41,680
Speaker 3: Know griff was in, It junior was In, Boggs he's

475
00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:46,440
Speaker 3: In sacks is IN i Think Ozzie smith say.

476
00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:51,880
Speaker 4: Yeah Maybe, straw, Yes, cansako, yes.

477
00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:54,600
Speaker 2: THERE i. WOULDN'T i wouldn't remember that. One there's only

478
00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:59,080
Speaker 2: One maguire. Maybe, no you know everybody? Right you miss

479
00:23:59,160 --> 00:23:59,600
Speaker 2: can't say.

480
00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:02,040
Speaker 1: O Jeff free gave you, that And Mike social was in. It.

481
00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:08,280
Speaker 3: Too, oh so, okay people STILL i mean that thing's,

482
00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:12,560
Speaker 3: crazy right That i've never watched the full. Episode. Uh

483
00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:15,679
Speaker 3: and people will ask me how what it was like

484
00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:18,840
Speaker 3: doing The simpsons And i'm, like, well probably wasn't as

485
00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:22,240
Speaker 3: exciting as you, thought because it was really a radio, spot,

486
00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:24,119
Speaker 3: right and you go in and you put your voice

487
00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:28,119
Speaker 3: there and that's. It it's fifteen. Minutes Steve saxon myself

488
00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:32,960
Speaker 3: went to the, studio put our little lines in, there and.

489
00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:35,720
Speaker 1: That was, it, Right and you did a couple Of seinfelds.

490
00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:39,240
Speaker 1: Too people must still ask you about, that, Correct.

491
00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:42,720
Speaker 2: I've NEVER i never done, it had done A, signfiel.

492
00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:46,880
Speaker 4: All, right but they reference you, right, Right so you.

493
00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:50,560
Speaker 3: Know people will ask And i've seen a couple of

494
00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:54,439
Speaker 3: those episodes BECAUSE i watched that probably more than you,

495
00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:55,960
Speaker 3: know more of the reruns THAN i did on them

496
00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:57,359
Speaker 3: when it first came, out, Right.

497
00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:07,600
Speaker 4: So don you know before we hit, record we were

498
00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:09,720
Speaker 4: getting to know each other a little, bit and, OH.

499
00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:12,359
Speaker 3: I thought you were gonna, say before we, START i

500
00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:12,800
Speaker 3: hope we have.

501
00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:15,399
Speaker 4: Not, well now that we've warmed, up are we ready

502
00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:19,600
Speaker 4: to go To? Imagine? No before we before we hit record,

503
00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:22,320
Speaker 4: earlier we had talked a little. Bit, obviously people who

504
00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:25,080
Speaker 4: listened to the show KNOW i live Outside, philadelphia and,

505
00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:27,680
Speaker 4: Uh i'm a country music morning show host for ninety

506
00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:31,119
Speaker 4: two five X tu and and you've already Referenced Garth

507
00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:33,879
Speaker 4: brooks on the interview, Here SO i want to know

508
00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:37,280
Speaker 4: a little bit about your love of country. Music Is

509
00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:39,760
Speaker 4: garth your? Guy was there somebody that grew up? With

510
00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:41,120
Speaker 4: is there an artist you love?

511
00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:41,480
Speaker 1: Now?

512
00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:46,200
Speaker 3: UH i WOULD i Like garth a. Lot i'd Say

513
00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:52,640
Speaker 3: toby was my. Guy Met toby back a few years

514
00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:56,840
Speaker 3: and kind of just end up having a not a,

515
00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:59,960
Speaker 3: like you, know hanging out all the time, relationship but

516
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:02,320
Speaker 3: anytime that IF i had a chance to get to

517
00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:04,520
Speaker 3: go see, HIM i would see the show or.

518
00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:05,520
Speaker 2: Whatever he.

519
00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:09,879
Speaker 3: Did my first show here for my foundation In, evansville

520
00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:10,879
Speaker 3: he flew in.

521
00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:12,199
Speaker 2: For, me which was.

522
00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:17,440
Speaker 3: Awesome toby's was like the dude right for.

523
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:18,199
Speaker 2: Me he's so.

524
00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:22,720
Speaker 3: Cool BUT i grew up probably not a country, guy you.

525
00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:25,400
Speaker 3: KNOW i don't think any young kids are loving country

526
00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:29,080
Speaker 3: outside of being total you, know in The south or

527
00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:33,359
Speaker 3: somewhere where it's a lot of country played In nashville

528
00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:38,000
Speaker 3: And conway owned the team and so there were a

529
00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:41,040
Speaker 3: lot more The oakridge boys were around a little, bit

530
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:44,880
Speaker 3: so he started to get here there a little bit.

531
00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:50,000
Speaker 3: More but then being Around goose In New, york he

532
00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:52,560
Speaker 3: was a country. Guy Willie. Nelson we went To Willie

533
00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:57,080
Speaker 3: nelson concert actually the day Before righetti those his no

534
00:26:57,160 --> 00:27:00,199
Speaker 3: hitter yet those no hitter hit Or july, fourth there

535
00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:01,000
Speaker 3: was a concert at The.

536
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:04,439
Speaker 2: Meadowlands like With, WILLIE.

537
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:06,640
Speaker 3: I think it was like all kinds of different, People Linda,

538
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:09,600
Speaker 3: ronstat a lot of different people when we went out.

539
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:12,760
Speaker 3: THERE i just Remember rags because he couldn't he couldn't

540
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:13,800
Speaker 3: really drink because he's.

541
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:18,280
Speaker 2: Pitching the next, day and and so that's.

542
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:20,320
Speaker 3: It those the no no the next. Day but THAT

543
00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:23,760
Speaker 3: i kept growing with these country the country more and.

544
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:27,040
Speaker 3: More AND i THINK i like all kinds BECAUSE i love.

545
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:29,760
Speaker 3: Listening like not THAT i, love BUT i listened to

546
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:33,520
Speaker 3: my kids STUFF i, like LIKE i, DON'T i don't,

547
00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:36,679
Speaker 3: know LIKE i listened to anybody Like, TUPAC i Like,

548
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:41,240
Speaker 3: dupac AND i Like biggie and and different. Artists but

549
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:44,280
Speaker 3: if WHEN i get my, CHOICE i seem to keep

550
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:45,640
Speaker 3: rolling back the country.

551
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:48,439
Speaker 4: Channel, well we're glad to have you a part OF

552
00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:50,880
Speaker 4: xc you. Nation you are more than welcome to tune

553
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:52,399
Speaker 4: it in this season anytime you.

554
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:53,760
Speaker 3: Won, yeah.

555
00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:58,040
Speaker 1: Can you sing or play an? Instrument?

556
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:00,399
Speaker 3: No pretty.

557
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:02,400
Speaker 2: BAD i don't.

558
00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:05,000
Speaker 3: Know i'm not really gonna try to lay it down,

559
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:05,960
Speaker 3: here so.

560
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:10,040
Speaker 4: You, know you, Know, DAD i think in the history

561
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:14,280
Speaker 4: of our, interviews we've only had one person ever sing

562
00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:15,800
Speaker 4: on our show besides.

563
00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 1: Maybe me and, Uh johnny beg singing, right, like, okay.

564
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:28,640
Speaker 3: We have we have a mutual friend In, Nashville Lee Thomas.

565
00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:32,200
Speaker 3: Miller and he said he Took johnny and you can

566
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:34,560
Speaker 3: Ask johnny about this at some, point or Maybe Lee.

567
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:38,160
Speaker 3: Thomas He's Lee thomas is a big baseball fan From.

568
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:43,200
Speaker 3: Cincy he Took johnny to The bluebird In, nashville And

569
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:45,640
Speaker 3: johnny's sitting there and he watches the. Show he ALWAYS

570
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:48,120
Speaker 3: i guess he wanted to go to The. Bluebird and

571
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:50,040
Speaker 3: he said at the, end they Pulled johnny up And

572
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:53,400
Speaker 3: johnny just knew every, line knew every, word was singing.

573
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:54,480
Speaker 2: That that's.

574
00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:58,280
Speaker 1: Amazing so down you you talked to pardon me on this,

575
00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:01,840
Speaker 1: one but when years, AGO i know this is probably

576
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:04,560
Speaker 1: an urban, legend it's probably, apocryphal it's not, true but

577
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 1: did you once say that even when you were Breaking

578
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:12,680
Speaker 1: Lou garrig records or doing things that Only lou greg.

579
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:15,720
Speaker 1: Did did you say that when you were a little,

580
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:18,840
Speaker 1: kid you had never heard Of Lou garrig and you

581
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:20,760
Speaker 1: Thought Babe ruth was a cartoon.

582
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:25,000
Speaker 3: Character is that true or is that? False that's True,

583
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:30,280
Speaker 3: indiana man is not a Big yankee, Area, evansville especially

584
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 3: a cardinal, country, right you think about this is not

585
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:37,120
Speaker 3: and that's an age that there's No, internet there's no social,

586
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:42,200
Speaker 3: media there's no there's a game of the, week, Right

587
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:45,560
Speaker 3: AND i just didn't know that much about. It you,

588
00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:48,680
Speaker 3: Know i'm busy playing playing three. Sports i'm going to

589
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:52,640
Speaker 3: my brothers. Games i'm not paying. Attention SO i learned

590
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:54,840
Speaker 3: a lot about the history of The yankees AFTER i

591
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:57,480
Speaker 3: joined The. Yankees but that's definitely think About Babe ruth

592
00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:00,520
Speaker 3: as a. Kid that's a candy, park, right think about.

593
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:03,680
Speaker 3: THAT i didn't think About Babe ruth as the. PLAYER i,

594
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:05,280
Speaker 3: MEAN i knew About Baby ruth BEFORE.

595
00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:05,520
Speaker 2: I got To New.

596
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:08,440
Speaker 3: York but like some of the, names and Heard Mickey

597
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:11,600
Speaker 3: manel and things like, That Yogi, berra but Like Lou

598
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:13,800
Speaker 3: garrit wasn't a common name for me coming growing.

599
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:14,600
Speaker 2: Up that's.

600
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:16,880
Speaker 1: Amazing all, right, DOWN i want you to confirm this.

601
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 1: Story Buck showalder told me his your last, year you

602
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:24,760
Speaker 1: went to him bad back in all and, said you

603
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:27,000
Speaker 1: got to get me out of the cleanup. SPOT i

604
00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:31,160
Speaker 1: am not worthy of hitting cleanup anymore for The. Yankees

605
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 1: and then when that season, ended you went To Buck

606
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:36,920
Speaker 1: showalder and, said you got to go get another first.

607
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:40,520
Speaker 1: Basement i'm not good enough to play first base for

608
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:42,640
Speaker 1: The New York, yankees and they went and Got tino

609
00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:44,880
Speaker 1: and then they won. Championships did is?

610
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:46,640
Speaker 4: That Did buck tell it the right?

611
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:49,000
Speaker 1: Way he always? Does of Course.

612
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:53,040
Speaker 3: Buck likes to like make it grow a little, bit,

613
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:56,120
Speaker 3: right but it is. TRUE i remember going in there

614
00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:58,480
Speaker 3: and it's, Like, buck you gotta you, know you got

615
00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:02,360
Speaker 3: to get. O'Neill o'nil's killing the, ball hitting four hundred or.

616
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 3: Whatever And i'm, like you get me out in three, ho,

617
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 3: man don't be afraid if you want to get me

618
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:08,760
Speaker 3: out three, Hoh you're not gonna hurt my, feelings right

619
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 3: right then he put me in the seventh hole AND

620
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 3: i was, LIKE i don't know about, that, right, Yeah.

621
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:18,320
Speaker 2: BUT i MEAN i was retiring at the end of that.

622
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 3: YEAR i kind OF i probably would have retired after

623
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 3: ninety four without the.

624
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:23,800
Speaker 2: Strike the strike.

625
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 3: HAPPENED i didn't want to end my career like, that,

626
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:28,520
Speaker 3: Right AND i knew our team was getting, Better BUT

627
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 3: i knew ninety five was. It BUT i also knew

628
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 3: thought the last year In miami was, it AND i

629
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 3: thought last year In toronto that was gonna be.

630
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:40,480
Speaker 2: It and so but, YEAH i kind of knew that was.

631
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:42,920
Speaker 4: It who was your guy growing? Up the one you

632
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:45,760
Speaker 4: watched that either you tried to emulate in your own

633
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 4: career as a kid growing, up or or somebody just

634
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:49,680
Speaker 4: really looked up.

635
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:53,280
Speaker 3: To, well my guy THAT i wanted to hit like

636
00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 3: was carew for, Sure and you, know and you don't

637
00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:00,880
Speaker 3: get to seem that, much BUT i, see you, know

638
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 3: new the.

639
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:03,560
Speaker 2: Baton titles and all that that type of.

640
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 3: Thing BUT i imediated a lot of different, Guys like you,

641
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:11,320
Speaker 3: know this area THAT i grow up is is more

642
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:14,960
Speaker 3: it's kind Of. Cardinals But cincinnati was winning and with

643
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 3: football games in the, back you had to hit the

644
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:20,600
Speaker 3: way they hit. Right cincinnati had a lot of. Lefties

645
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:24,200
Speaker 3: i'd put different guys in the lineup that that would.

646
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:27,320
Speaker 3: Play you, know Sometimes tony had to sit Or johnny

647
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:29,720
Speaker 3: had to sit If i'd get another lefty in the.

648
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 2: Lineup SO i kind of ended, up you, know being

649
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 2: more of those.

650
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 3: Guys but WHO i wanted to hit like Was carew for,

651
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:41,120
Speaker 3: sure AND i but you know what happened in your,

652
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:44,560
Speaker 3: career you LEARN i wanted to be Like, Rod but

653
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 3: at some point you gotta be, myself right and you

654
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:51,640
Speaker 3: gotta you, know he was a great role model for

655
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:53,960
Speaker 3: me to follow and hit the ball where it's. Pitched

656
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:57,440
Speaker 3: was the WAY i grew up trying to. Hit but over,

657
00:32:57,480 --> 00:32:59,720
Speaker 3: time you still you gotta you gotta end up doing

658
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 3: your own.

659
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:03,240
Speaker 1: Thing, jeff you're too young to Remember Rod. Crew he

660
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 1: was a magician at the, plate one of the great

661
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 1: Bunters i've ever, seen sir don without hurting anybody's. Feelings

662
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:14,320
Speaker 1: if they if they shifted On Rod carew like they

663
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:16,640
Speaker 1: shifted you, know out everyone else five years.

664
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:18,560
Speaker 3: Ago what would that look?

665
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:21,560
Speaker 1: Like what would he have hit if they had tried

666
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:22,160
Speaker 1: to shift on?

667
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 3: Him, Yeah rod seemed to bill do what he, wanted you.

668
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 3: Know him a guy Like Tony tony william was the same.

669
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 3: Way he can shoot that ball the other way anytime

670
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:33,280
Speaker 3: he wanted, bogsy, RIGHT i just don't think they would have.

671
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:36,080
Speaker 3: Shifted but of course you know you. Can't you can't

672
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:38,000
Speaker 3: shift the guy that uses the whole field like. That

673
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:42,520
Speaker 3: BUT i, MEAN i guess you. Could but, yeah he

674
00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 3: would have tore the ships apart for.

675
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:44,600
Speaker 2: Sure.

676
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:48,160
Speaker 4: Right so don you reference your your youngest. Son how

677
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:52,240
Speaker 4: old is your youngest? Eleven eleven years? Old, okay so

678
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 4: he's the one getting on mom And Dad's amazon account

679
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 4: and Sending philly's gear to the house, now and that

680
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:01,920
Speaker 4: must be really nice that you, know, SEE i mean

681
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 4: obviously you have older boys, too but like to see

682
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 4: baseball through his? Eyes how special is that for?

683
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:11,880
Speaker 3: You, no it was it was you, know the game's

684
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:15,239
Speaker 3: changed in a way that's really. Good teams are really

685
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:18,880
Speaker 3: good about families now and. Kids and WHEN i early

686
00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:21,719
Speaker 3: on in the, game WHEN i was, there kids weren't

687
00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:23,319
Speaker 3: a welcome site to be able to take to the

688
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:25,480
Speaker 3: ballpark with you and let him hang out and things like.

689
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:29,040
Speaker 3: That the change of the game has helped that because

690
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:32,200
Speaker 3: the locker rooms are huge now there's mega. Rooms kids

691
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:34,400
Speaker 3: can kind of hide in different places and things like.

692
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 3: That but to be able to watch his excitement last

693
00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:42,000
Speaker 3: year during the playoff run and even late in the,

694
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:45,200
Speaker 3: year you, know trying to get in has been really.

695
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 3: Cool and it's kind of like he kind of fell

696
00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 3: in love with. Baseball he played, baseball he liked, it

697
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 3: kind of fell in love with baseball last.

698
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:53,600
Speaker 2: Year and to.

699
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:55,839
Speaker 3: Watch him because we'd go to the ballpark at eleven,

700
00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:58,680
Speaker 3: o'clock he'd you, know hit a little, bit throw, whatever

701
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:03,360
Speaker 3: get the SHAG vp now HE'S i mean hit three.

702
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:05,799
Speaker 2: Off days during The World, series, right we.

703
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:08,359
Speaker 3: Had we had a day off In New york because

704
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:10,120
Speaker 3: we put you, know you play your first two games

705
00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 3: your day, Off, well nobody really works that we go

706
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:13,400
Speaker 3: to the ballpark that.

707
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 2: Day hardly anybody works.

708
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:16,799
Speaker 3: Out so got the kids that are out there on

709
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:20,839
Speaker 3: the center field playing ball In Yankee. Stadium same thing

710
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:24,319
Speaker 3: happens In. Seattle you, know play first two at, home

711
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:26,959
Speaker 3: we're on the. Road we got kids out playing ball

712
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:29,400
Speaker 3: in center. Field and there's not Just, louis there's a

713
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:32,360
Speaker 3: lot of kids on our. Club same thing happens IN.

714
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:34,799
Speaker 3: La you, know the first two games at, home we

715
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 3: go TO.

716
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:36,759
Speaker 2: La we got an off.

717
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:39,960
Speaker 3: Day we're out, There louie's playing around that grass out,

718
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:42,239
Speaker 3: there and it is so sweet out there the.

719
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:45,399
Speaker 2: Grass he's, Like, DAD i could sleep on. This so

720
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:46,200
Speaker 2: it's just that.

721
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:49,479
Speaker 3: Type of, stuff, Right but the experience for a kid

722
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:51,879
Speaker 3: to be able to go through that and to get

723
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 3: on the field and actually be able to, play watch the,

724
00:35:54,640 --> 00:36:00,360
Speaker 3: games be a part of the, celebrations all of that legal.

725
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:02,799
Speaker 3: EXPERIENCE i didn't get to do it with my other,

726
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 3: boys AND i WISH i would, have, Right it's something

727
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:07,440
Speaker 3: that they.

728
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 1: Missed last, Question, OKAY i can't imagine anything better than

729
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:16,359
Speaker 1: you going to your First World series and sharing it

730
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:19,319
Speaker 1: with your eleven year old. Son but now you have

731
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:22,160
Speaker 1: a chance with a really Good phillies team to go

732
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 1: to The World series as the bench coach and your

733
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:28,520
Speaker 1: son is the general. Manager Is i'm not sure too

734
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:29,840
Speaker 1: many things could beat, that AM i?

735
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 3: Right, NO i think you're right on. THAT i Think

736
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:35,399
Speaker 3: PRESTON i have always been on the opposite sides in pro.

737
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 3: Ball you, Know he's been With San diego WHEN i

738
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 3: was In, miami then he moves To, philly so we're

739
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:44,839
Speaker 3: always on opposite, teams and you, KNOW i want.

740
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:46,279
Speaker 2: HIM i want him to do. WELL i know he

741
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:46,960
Speaker 2: wants me to do.

742
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:51,600
Speaker 3: Well and, really last, Year i'm hoping It's philly In

743
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 3: toronto and The World. Series we're both. There we both

744
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:56,240
Speaker 3: got a, shot, right it was gonna be a, blast.

745
00:36:56,360 --> 00:37:00,880
Speaker 3: Right but now the opportunity with a great club like you,

746
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 3: said to be able to try to win one, together

747
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 3: that would be the. Coolest nothing would be able to

748
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 3: beat that as far as my. Career to be able

749
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 3: to be a part of working with your son and

750
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:17,279
Speaker 3: taking a shot and winning The World.

751
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:20,360
Speaker 4: SERIES i, mean, listen don winning A World series with

752
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:22,960
Speaker 4: your son is pretty. Cool we did get ten thousand

753
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 4: downloads last MONTH dt on this. Podcast that's a pretty big.

754
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:32,279
Speaker 5: DEAL i don't even know what that, means JEFF i

755
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:36,759
Speaker 5: know you don't, news, Right all, right that's, enough that's,

756
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 5: great that's, right, right.

757
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:40,440
Speaker 2: You guys sounded like might tell you.

758
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 1: That, yeah, Everyone we Had Tony Gwynn junior.

759
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 4: On he sounds.

760
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:50,799
Speaker 1: Exactly like his, father And jeffrey sounds exactly like. Me

761
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:53,920
Speaker 1: so when we started this podcast three years, ago that

762
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:56,439
Speaker 1: was like the first, COMMENT i can't tell who's. Who

763
00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:57,920
Speaker 1: jeffrey sounds exactly like.

764
00:37:58,040 --> 00:37:58,320
Speaker 2: Dad.

765
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:00,480
Speaker 3: Does you got to Get aaron cb all on here

766
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:02,880
Speaker 3: with you, guys that would be, great that would be.

767
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:06,840
Speaker 4: Awesome, yeah you, KNOW i wanted to do an episode

768
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 4: Maybe dad for your for your seventieth birthday coming up

769
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:11,879
Speaker 4: at the end of this. Year i'll have everybody who

770
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:16,200
Speaker 4: does A kirkshon impersonation on the, show And i've BEEN

771
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:18,440
Speaker 4: i was On Dan Lebatar don and they asked, me

772
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:20,440
Speaker 4: can you do an impression of your? Dad AND i,

773
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 4: Said i'm doing it right? Now what else CAN i?

774
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:26,440
Speaker 1: DO i don't have, anything and let me just finish

775
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:29,440
Speaker 1: With Aaron ceb on. THIS i went to him after

776
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:34,040
Speaker 1: he completely ambushed me with that unbelievably bad but great,

777
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:38,040
Speaker 1: impersonation AND i, SAID, jp tell me please that you

778
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:41,279
Speaker 1: could do a bunch of other. Impersonations tell me you

779
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 1: could do you, know, uh somebody?

780
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:46,360
Speaker 2: Great and he, goes, NO i can only do.

781
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 3: You so he's only got one.

782
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:51,160
Speaker 1: Guy you, know he can't Do Jack, nicholson but he

783
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:51,480
Speaker 1: can do.

784
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:55,360
Speaker 3: Me that doesn't make, Sense so, yeah that'd be great with.

785
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 1: You he's the, best all, Right, don thanks so much

786
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 1: for joining us. Today thanks for putting up with us

787
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 1: asking about free throws and buses and everything.

788
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:05,839
Speaker 3: Else it was a, delight all.

789
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:06,719
Speaker 2: Right appreciate you.

790
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 3: Guys and if.

791
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 4: You have free time In philly and you need country music.

792
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:13,160
Speaker 4: Tickets you know the guy to CALL i got you,

793
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:16,880
Speaker 4: Cover and it's country, music not Country western.

794
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 1: Anymore toby is my, Guy My, Toby My toby Is Toby.

795
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 1: Harra WHEN i think of somebody that's that's how BAD

796
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 1: i am at.

797
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:26,480
Speaker 5: Music.

798
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:30,799
Speaker 1: Unfortunately, yes it's.

799
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 4: Great