1 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:11,239 Speaker 1: What's meta my verse? This is it could happen here, 2 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:15,600 Speaker 1: a podcast entirely dedicated to the metaverse, UM, which is 3 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:19,280 Speaker 1: the promise of the human future. Um On with me, 4 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:25,760 Speaker 1: as always is my co host Mark Zuckerberg. I don't 5 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 1: I don't know how talks. I'm not sure how. I 6 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know whose voice you were doing. 7 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 1: I guess he sounds like nothing, like no one, like 8 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:43,880 Speaker 1: the absence of a soul noise when it's dial up. Yeah, 9 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 1: that's what's going on inside his head in any moment 10 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:51,920 Speaker 1: when he's not actively making the Internet worse. It's just 11 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 1: a dial tone in there. Awesome, Garrison, what are we 12 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 1: talking about today? Well, yeah, we're gonna be talking about 13 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:06,319 Speaker 1: the metaverse and how how it's different from what people 14 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 1: talk about it as. And yeah, it's it's gonna be. 15 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:11,480 Speaker 1: It's it's gonna it's gonna touch on a variety of 16 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 1: things that split up into two parts. Um. But first, 17 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 1: I would like to paint you a picture with words, 18 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 1: a word picture. So you're, yeah, you're walking walking through 19 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:28,680 Speaker 1: your favorite grocery store. There's you know, cards passing by, 20 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 1: horrible horrible music playing. It's the lighting is white and 21 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 1: and like overexposed and under exposed at the same time. 22 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:40,039 Speaker 1: It's it's it's hard, it's hard to see. And this, uh, 23 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 1: this like a person who looks like an employee keeps 24 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:44,759 Speaker 1: keeps popping up and trying to take you to different 25 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:46,760 Speaker 1: sections of the store. You're trying to just ignore her. 26 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 1: It's a very annoying. All you need to get is 27 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 1: the stuff you have on a little list, and it's 28 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 1: it's awful. Um. Eventually you get so fed up with 29 00:01:56,560 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 1: this whole experience that you take out, You go to 30 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 1: where the wine bottles are, you take them out, and 31 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 1: you arrange them into a giant penis on the floor, 32 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 1: because that's the only thing you can do because you're 33 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 1: not actually in a store. You're in your living room 34 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 1: and you have a horrible headset on, and you're trying 35 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:15,920 Speaker 1: to do shopping in a virtual in a virtual grocery store. Um. 36 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 1: And that's that's the actual kind of scope of what 37 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:21,960 Speaker 1: we're gonna be talking about today is virtual marketplaces and 38 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 1: how they interact with seemingly real marketplaces. Yeah, I'm sure 39 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 1: this is inspired by There were a couple of videos 40 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:30,959 Speaker 1: that dropped recently, one of them from I think Walmart. 41 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 1: We're gonna talk, We're gonna be We're gonna be talking 42 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 1: about it. So yeah, So a couple a couple of 43 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 1: days after New Year, a video went viral across the 44 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:42,520 Speaker 1: social media's ranking, up over like eleven million views on 45 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:46,799 Speaker 1: Twitter um and it was titled how Walmart envisions shopping 46 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 1: in the mold in the metaverse Now, So what followed 47 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:54,640 Speaker 1: was like two minutes of an embarrassing like VR jank, 48 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 1: including like throwing around virtual gallons of milk from your 49 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 1: cart into a virtual fridge many many dunks are made. 50 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:04,520 Speaker 1: Fun was had, But what few people probably realized is 51 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 1: that like this, actually this this wasn't a Walmart metaverse 52 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 1: test store. This was actually a five year old tech 53 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 1: demo from before non Neil Stevenson fans even knew what 54 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:17,080 Speaker 1: the term metaverse meant. So a few years back, a 55 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 1: tech company called a Mutual Mobile partnered with Walmart for 56 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 1: a project set to quote reimagine retailed virtual reality. Now 57 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 1: that sounds very fancy and important, but considering this was 58 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:30,519 Speaker 1: five years ago and you're not hearing about it until now, 59 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 1: shows how impactful this thing actually was. The first stated 60 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 1: goal of the tech demo, according to the mutual mobile 61 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 1: website was to impress influencers at south By Southwest ten 62 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 1: so you know, just like the so called metaverse is now, 63 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 1: this was largely a promotional project um and a way 64 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 1: to attract investors. This was this was never actually a 65 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 1: serious thing. It's I'm gonna say it right now. South 66 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 1: By Southwest was always one of the stupidest things in 67 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 1: the world. Um And when it comes act, it will 68 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 1: be still because it's stupid. It's a stupid place for 69 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 1: the most insufferable people in the world to come and 70 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 1: talk about technology. Some people also listen to music. That's fine, 71 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 1: so yeah. For for the for the experience itself, they 72 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 1: used an original Oculus rift and programmed roughly like four 73 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:24,360 Speaker 1: minute linear um expedition into a barren, hellish digital walmart 74 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 1: where you pick up and throw it did it did 75 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:30,280 Speaker 1: sound exactly. My favorite thing about this video is they 76 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 1: were clearly using the audio of some sort of like 77 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 1: shooter game because it was often like things would it 78 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 1: would sound like you were in like fucking doom going 79 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 1: through a portal. It was extremely funny. It was bad. 80 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:44,479 Speaker 1: It sounded like hell you'll you'll pick up and throw 81 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 1: fake wine bottles into your blue digital cart and the 82 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:50,280 Speaker 1: whole thing ends with a fake drone delivering an eight 83 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 1: D dollar TV that you fake purchased. It's it's not great. 84 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:57,359 Speaker 1: What Mutual Mobile and Walmart were trying to do. They 85 00:04:57,400 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 1: have a constatement on their website back from seventeen It 86 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 1: was they said that Walmart envisioned unveiling a fully virtual 87 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 1: shopping experience that puts shoppers inside the store without ever 88 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:10,040 Speaker 1: leaving their homes to attract customers and to spel the 89 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:13,360 Speaker 1: misconception that they're not as advanced as their more digital counterparts. 90 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:16,719 Speaker 1: Brick and mortar establishments are not only accelerating investments in 91 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 1: areas like web and mobile, they're also exploring the very 92 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:22,840 Speaker 1: edge of emerging technology. Walmart of virtual reality is a 93 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 1: case some point potential shoppers can virtually pick up products, 94 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 1: read labels, talk to virtual associates, and fill their shopping carts. 95 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:32,839 Speaker 1: But the goal wasn't just to create something interactive. Walmart 96 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:35,799 Speaker 1: needed something that showed the potential of VR in retail 97 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 1: while putting them ahead of the competition. So I mean 98 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:42,799 Speaker 1: this was like this was this was kind of ahead 99 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 1: in some ways, but also ahead in the ways that 100 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:49,479 Speaker 1: it's kind of showing how not useful this example is 101 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 1: so obviously like this five year old video resurface now 102 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 1: due to Zuckerberg and Epic Games, you know, forcing an 103 00:05:56,200 --> 00:06:00,359 Speaker 1: astroturfed metaverse into the cultural zeitgeist, coupled with or you know, 104 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 1: conflation of anything VR to the legendary metaverse, right, because 105 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 1: VR does not equal metaverse, nor is it nor is 106 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:10,239 Speaker 1: it necessarily vice versa. But now these terms are getting 107 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 1: used so interchangeably that someone can stumble across this video 108 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 1: and be like, oh, look at this metaverse store when like, 109 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 1: it's it's not it's just a it's just a VR text. 110 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:20,520 Speaker 1: The metaverse in order to be like the thing that 111 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 1: people have been imagining through cyberpunk since like the nineties, 112 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 1: it needs to be persistent and interact directly with the 113 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 1: real world in a number of ways, like it it's 114 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 1: it's it's well, we'll get into we'll get into kind 115 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:35,719 Speaker 1: of what metaverse could be in the future in terms 116 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 1: of like the it could happen here idea and then 117 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 1: not just a metaverse, but a series of metaverse is 118 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 1: what they could be, and how that kind of can 119 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:46,479 Speaker 1: negates the original idea of it in the first place. 120 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 1: But um. When asked by Vice News about the resurgence 121 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:54,039 Speaker 1: of their Walmart project, Mutual Mobile replied, the vision of 122 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:57,040 Speaker 1: a virtual shopping experience we helped Walmart realize back in 123 00:06:57,080 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 1: t seventeen stands validated in the metaverse eara of today. 124 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:04,799 Speaker 1: This whole experience has only encouraged us to keep experimenting, innovating, 125 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:09,160 Speaker 1: and leading the charge with cutting edge tech. So, I mean, 126 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 1: considering most of the virility of this was people joking 127 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 1: about it, I yeah, sure, okay, okay, Mutual good good 128 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 1: luck with that. So a few days after the Walmart 129 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 1: video went viral, rumors of another big box store going 130 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 1: metaverse started to circulate again, accompanied by a video of 131 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 1: a possible like three D metaverse storefront. Reports emerged, starting 132 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 1: in India, claiming that H and M had announced that 133 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 1: it would offer its customers a three dimensional shopping experience 134 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 1: in its a virtual store inside the metaverse via something 135 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 1: called Now. I don't know if it's keek City or 136 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 1: seek City. Um, I'm not really comfortable saying either of 137 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 1: those things because they sound weird, but I'm gonna go. 138 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with seek City. That's something. It's a 139 00:07:56,840 --> 00:08:00,200 Speaker 1: little bit better. It sounds like it's a slur. I know, 140 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 1: I know, but it sounds like it's a slur. So 141 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say seek, but it's it's see k um. 142 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 1: So this This account on on Twitter called us seek 143 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 1: VR shared the following from its official Twitter account, Shopping 144 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 1: in the Metaverse with seek coin. Concept VR store, presented 145 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 1: to H and M by Seek creates mainstream use cases 146 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 1: for seek coin and scaling virtual reality beyond games. So 147 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 1: I'll get into what seek is in a bit. But 148 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 1: the report said that customers will be able to walk 149 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 1: through the store choose the apparel they wanted to purchase 150 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 1: in the Sikh City universe. Um. Although the clothes could 151 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 1: only be worn in the digital environment, payment would be 152 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:46,280 Speaker 1: made with seek coin and customers could have the opportunity 153 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 1: to order the same apparel from H and m's physical 154 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 1: stores later. But that's you're buying two separate things. One 155 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:53,959 Speaker 1: of us the digital skin, one of its an actual, 156 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 1: you know, real thing. Um So what a seek? Seek 157 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 1: was launched in It's a metaverse coin pop project built 158 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:05,960 Speaker 1: on the Ethereum blockchain and their their Their goal is 159 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:09,840 Speaker 1: to connect artists, athletes, and other digital content creators directly 160 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 1: with their fans and virtual worlds. Seeks n f T 161 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:17,839 Speaker 1: Marketplaces is designed to enable real ownership of the way 162 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 1: in which I would actually want. That is, if it's 163 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 1: me having a very sexual zoom chat with you know what, 164 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:30,320 Speaker 1: we don't need to garrison, please continue, okay. Quoting from 165 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 1: siks Weubside. Seek currently offers a range of immersive ther 166 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 1: experiences within Seek City, including theater, concert arenas, sports complex, 167 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 1: hang out lounge, and more. There are all the things 168 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 1: you can do in your real home, but weird and 169 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 1: on the Internet. This is horrible, as I see a 170 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:52,680 Speaker 1: potential appeal for people who are like out in the 171 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 1: sticks or in parts of the world where they're not 172 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 1: they feel not like they're very politically or whatevery disconnected, 173 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 1: which is the same thing the Internet it already does. 174 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 1: I'll talk about being in VR will make it better. 175 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:06,960 Speaker 1: I don't know. I've lived in the middle of nowhere 176 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 1: and relied on the Internet to be social, and I 177 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 1: don't think I would have wanted to change the Internet 178 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 1: in for this because it sounds yeah, anyway, I'll talk. 179 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 1: I'll talk about use cases in a sec. But yeah, 180 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:22,720 Speaker 1: so end users will be able to use Seek token 181 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 1: to make purchases vote for content control programming. A much 182 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 1: more after token launch, seek VR, in partnership with Universal Music, 183 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 1: can realize live performances of world famous artists such as 184 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 1: Bong Jovi, Lady Gaga, You Too, Sting, and many more 185 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:41,840 Speaker 1: can take place on this platform. So seek is like 186 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:44,079 Speaker 1: it's it's kind of the startup, but it's been around 187 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:47,200 Speaker 1: for a while. It's trying to do like you know, 188 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 1: virtual venues inside the metaverse. They they do have contracts 189 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 1: with Universal so it's it's it's a mix of trying 190 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 1: it's it's a mix of this coin, so it's a 191 00:10:57,559 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 1: mix of this like cryptocurrency, also trying to use the 192 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 1: cryptocurrency in this world. They're trying to build up. UM. 193 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 1: There their their their roadmap to Metaverse right now. First 194 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 1: thing is like payment integration, so using seak Coin. They 195 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:14,320 Speaker 1: want sea Coin to be the coin for everything in 196 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 1: the metaverse. They want all of the Metaverse be based 197 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 1: off this thing that they invented called sea Coin because 198 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 1: it will make them money. Um. Next thing they want 199 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 1: to do is create a creator enabled ecosystem, so kind 200 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 1: of copy the content creator thing we have right now, 201 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:32,200 Speaker 1: poured that into the metaverse. But again have everything you know, 202 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:35,720 Speaker 1: you can invest in your creators so you can vote 203 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 1: on what they do using Sea coins and all of 204 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 1: we talked about like the personal ownership in the previous episode, 205 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:43,440 Speaker 1: but then a lot of it. You know, they have 206 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:47,200 Speaker 1: like an n FT marketplace, Avatar marketplaces, etcetera, etcetera. But 207 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 1: a lot of this stuff is built around like concerts, 208 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 1: you know, venues, you know, a lounge, movie theaters where 209 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 1: you can do stuff in VR. That is like that 210 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 1: is the main the main thing that Seek is trying 211 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 1: to do. They do have this one one quote somewhere, 212 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 1: oh yeah, the future milestone. So after they achieve this 213 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 1: Seek metaverse where everything is ran through Seek, all of 214 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 1: like you know what, whether you're on Oculus, whether you're 215 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 1: on Vibe, all of it gets run through Seeks. It's 216 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:24,199 Speaker 1: one one multiverse, sorry, one metaverse. Their their future milestones 217 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 1: are quote a VR Space Academy. They do not do 218 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 1: not say what that means m keek studios again kind 219 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 1: of unclear. I'm guessing like original content. And then the 220 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:38,679 Speaker 1: last one is a blockchain metaverse alliance. Those are their 221 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:42,280 Speaker 1: those are their three big future milestones. After they get there, 222 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:48,439 Speaker 1: there what was that last one blockchain metaverse alliance. I mean, 223 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:50,800 Speaker 1: this was like in the Facebook thing, to write the 224 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 1: idea that we're going to integrate in f t S. 225 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 1: But it was also clearly just like they tossed that 226 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 1: in there on the Facebook one, there was no evidence 227 00:12:57,040 --> 00:13:00,160 Speaker 1: they thought seriously about n f t S or blockchain. 228 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 1: It was just had gotten big while they were preparing 229 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:06,720 Speaker 1: the things, so they tossed them in there. Um. I 230 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 1: I get the idea, right, Like the thing that they 231 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:11,200 Speaker 1: keep pitching with this is that you'll be able to 232 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 1: have an item in one game that is yours, the 233 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 1: company doesn't own it, you can take it to other games, 234 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 1: which anyone who makes games will tell you was fucking nonsense. 235 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:22,560 Speaker 1: It's something like that might be vaguely possible in a 236 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:25,720 Speaker 1: metaverse where everything was forced to use the same engine, 237 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:29,840 Speaker 1: um and all, everyone was also forced to abide by 238 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:33,160 Speaker 1: a bunch of strict rules by Facebook. Um that also, 239 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:38,080 Speaker 1: that's probably violating antitrust laws. Um and also it seems 240 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:41,559 Speaker 1: like a ridiculously Sisiphisian task with no real benefit. I 241 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:43,800 Speaker 1: don't think anyone's going to do it, but I'm guessing 242 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 1: that's what they're referring to when they want to jam 243 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:48,719 Speaker 1: the blockchain up in the fucking metaverse, Like what else 244 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 1: could it plain? The blockchain metaverse alliance, all of the 245 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:54,560 Speaker 1: blockchains the metaverse is gonna align into. Yeah, like they 246 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 1: don't want to put all of the metaverse wear this 247 00:13:57,320 --> 00:14:01,560 Speaker 1: shirt in the metaverse. So, just like the real world, 248 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:06,600 Speaker 1: the freedom, the freedom of the internet catch you feel. 249 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:09,600 Speaker 1: It's the ever expanding possibilities. I do love because they 250 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:12,080 Speaker 1: keep talking about within the context of metaverse games like 251 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 1: you'll get to unlock a character that's just yours and 252 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:17,200 Speaker 1: nobody else can play it, and they'll have special abilities 253 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 1: that means he wins all the time. It's like, why 254 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 1: would people play that game? I think it was Business 255 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 1: Insiders someone's article talking about how neat it would be 256 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 1: for games to work this way, and like, think of 257 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 1: all the money you'd make people wanting to watch your 258 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 1: character wins. People don't want to just like watch a 259 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 1: guy who's structurally unable to lose because he he bought 260 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 1: the right character in a racing game win every race. 261 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 1: That's not no one's going to pay to watch that. 262 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 1: Do you understand what people watch races for? Like anyway, 263 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 1: let's hear from our good friends at our products and 264 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 1: services before we come back and talk more about seek coins. 265 00:14:57,600 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 1: I guess I don't know sa M all right, we 266 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:15,480 Speaker 1: are back. So sea coins virtual reality spaces run on 267 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:20,640 Speaker 1: smart contracts through the through the Bayans smart chain and 268 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 1: there they're they're run the run through the Ethereum blockchain. UM. 269 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:32,240 Speaker 1: So the the there's about seven and seven four millions 270 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:36,280 Speaker 1: seek coins and supply. The maximum supply capacity is capped 271 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:41,040 Speaker 1: at one billion coins. Uh. Sea coins peaked at one 272 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 1: one dollar and sixteen cents a year ago after launching 273 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 1: it and around four cents um. They're currently being traded 274 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 1: for around sixty cents. So that's that's what actual sea 275 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:52,960 Speaker 1: coins doing. Like like like people do use this, just 276 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 1: not many people like they They do have these contracts 277 00:15:56,720 --> 00:16:00,560 Speaker 1: with with with Universal Music UM. But for this H 278 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 1: and M thing, I I never heard of seek coins. 279 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 1: Um So, two days after the rumors began circulating that 280 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 1: H and M was, you know, partnering with seek, H 281 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 1: and M said nope, we did not, we are We're 282 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 1: not doing this, but they did not close the door 283 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:18,200 Speaker 1: in future possibilities. They said, uh, we we we like 284 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 1: to we'd like to confirm that H and M is 285 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 1: not is not opening a store in the metaverse at 286 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 1: this time. We're also not collaborating with Seek. So the 287 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 1: official Twitter account for Seek subsequently clarified later on that 288 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 1: the store that they were doing was just a concept 289 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 1: that was presented to H and M and not a 290 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 1: not a launching virtual store yet. Um, but they do 291 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 1: they do say that they're in discussions with H and 292 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 1: M to make this a reality, but it's not a 293 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 1: reality as of now. So this this kind of begs 294 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 1: the question, like, what about a three D digital space 295 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 1: is superior to a two D digital space for simple 296 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:56,920 Speaker 1: tasks like shopping online. So once you start, you know, 297 00:16:57,000 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 1: unfolding questions like this about the Internet metaverse a r VR, 298 00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 1: you there are more the conternal sides to this than 299 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 1: you would have initially estimated. Um. But first off, before 300 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 1: we kind of have this discussion, we should split this 301 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 1: into two categories. One for shopping for like real physical 302 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:15,600 Speaker 1: items that you plan on like receiving in person, and 303 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:18,440 Speaker 1: then digital items that don't physically exist and are just 304 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 1: just on your computer and monitor. So obviously, like there's 305 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:27,119 Speaker 1: no clear advantage in most cases to traversing an isolated 306 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:30,439 Speaker 1: virtual environment in order to order food as opposed to 307 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 1: just scrolling through a web page. Um. But once you 308 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:38,880 Speaker 1: expand out of the confines of VRS sensory deprivation three 309 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 1: three D technology in a r SO augmented reality does 310 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 1: actually have some USEUL prospects, including some that are already 311 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:49,000 Speaker 1: in use. Um. Amazon and Ikea, for example, have options 312 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:51,920 Speaker 1: on their perspective websites and apps that can like project 313 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:54,920 Speaker 1: furniture options into your living space, so you can that 314 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:58,919 Speaker 1: has some future I think, yeah, yeah, so this is 315 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:01,159 Speaker 1: currently this is being done on your phone screen, but 316 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:04,200 Speaker 1: in a R glasses application of this actually serve its 317 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:07,400 Speaker 1: purpose quite well, something that people would want. Yeah. Yeah, 318 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:10,440 Speaker 1: the phone screen version is pretty meatdiocre. And these are 319 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:13,720 Speaker 1: And that's kind of the thing the place where at 320 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:16,440 Speaker 1: I we make fun of this stuff a lot because 321 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 1: most of its nonsense. There are there are really there's 322 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 1: a lot of potential in some of these ideas, but 323 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 1: there's their potential for like and the same level that 324 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:26,120 Speaker 1: the air fryer has potential where it's like a thing 325 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:28,680 Speaker 1: a bunch of people will buy, but it's not. None 326 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:31,520 Speaker 1: of this yet is stuff that's going to completely change, Like, yeah, 327 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:33,560 Speaker 1: you might get a few million people to to get 328 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:36,480 Speaker 1: these glasses and or this app made these glasses for 329 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:38,800 Speaker 1: a couple of reasons. But who would use this this 330 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:41,199 Speaker 1: app to like help plan out how they're setting up 331 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:42,880 Speaker 1: their houses. You might get a few million people who 332 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:45,120 Speaker 1: do that. It's not going to be like an iPod 333 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 1: or an iPhone or or like Facebook that no one's 334 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:51,640 Speaker 1: had figured that out yet. There's there's some neat products 335 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:53,480 Speaker 1: that are going to be valuable, but we're still on 336 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:57,480 Speaker 1: the stage where nobody's under nobody's figured out fundamentally what 337 00:18:57,600 --> 00:19:01,080 Speaker 1: people want from this as opposed through like tiny specific 338 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:05,119 Speaker 1: needs in the same way that like there was a 339 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 1: number of futurists who quite add accurately figured out with 340 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 1: a smartphone, like, oh, people want a thing that will 341 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:14,120 Speaker 1: give them access to all of the knowledge and ideas 342 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:16,400 Speaker 1: in the world and also let them yell at anybody 343 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:18,679 Speaker 1: anytime they want. Like, that's something that is going to 344 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 1: be incredibly successful, and it has and it's changed the 345 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 1: entire world. Zuckerberger was like, people want to be able 346 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:27,959 Speaker 1: to be racist faster, and by god, we wanted it, 347 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:31,240 Speaker 1: and and that was huge. Um, I don't like these 348 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 1: are it's a good idea, like Yeah, let people scope 349 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 1: out how their room is going to look when they're 350 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:38,159 Speaker 1: shopping or whatever through a r But we haven't yet 351 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 1: hit that this is going to change the world, because 352 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:45,680 Speaker 1: being slightly better at using Ikea will not change the world. Yeah, 353 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 1: I think as an avid air fryer hater, I do 354 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 1: think comparing metaverse to the air fryer is actually which 355 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:58,520 Speaker 1: I love to say to Garrison. I know Garrison hates 356 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:00,679 Speaker 1: it when I use the air fryer. I love my 357 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 1: air fire mhm anti air frier action is my new tattoo. 358 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:09,160 Speaker 1: They screech like the person at the end of Invasion 359 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 1: of the Body. They do. But my goodness, do they 360 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:23,800 Speaker 1: cook my food faster frate with the air Wow? Almost 361 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 1: like it's impossible anyway. UM Mutual Mobiles digital marketing shategists 362 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:35,360 Speaker 1: talked with Vice after the Walrut video went viral, and 363 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 1: he explained that like the demo was made to show 364 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:40,600 Speaker 1: the potential of virtual reality and shopping experiences that they 365 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 1: can have for you know, different people, UM, including its 366 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 1: ability to connect like elderly people or people with disabilities 367 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:48,920 Speaker 1: to a shopping experience from the comfort of their own home, 368 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 1: something that he thinks might even be you know, attractive 369 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 1: to people who have been through several rounds of COVID quarantine. 370 00:20:55,400 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 1: And I can kind of understand this last argument. During 371 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:04,439 Speaker 1: early quarantine, I definitely used my VR headset more often 372 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:08,399 Speaker 1: than I had before. Um And with our alienated capitalist world, 373 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 1: I can see the use of walking around a digital 374 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:13,160 Speaker 1: store if you're stuck at home, um, due to something 375 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:14,560 Speaker 1: like a plague, or if you know, if you have 376 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 1: a physical or mental reason that makes you know, going 377 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:20,480 Speaker 1: to a story difficult, because but like it's yes, this 378 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:24,240 Speaker 1: this can help that, but also this is always it's 379 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:26,120 Speaker 1: very religed on how these types of stores are set 380 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 1: up and how these stories like affect your brain. It's 381 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:30,360 Speaker 1: like a big part of going to the grocery store 382 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:32,359 Speaker 1: what it's designed to do. Let's make it so that 383 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 1: we're not just following a shopping list. There's like a 384 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:38,240 Speaker 1: structured joy of discovery. Everything about the design to the 385 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 1: store is to get you to buy things you didn't 386 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:43,359 Speaker 1: think you needed before you walked in. And we're trained 387 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:46,880 Speaker 1: from birth to like to find this process pleasurable. So 388 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:49,560 Speaker 1: in that way, walking around a VR like wal Mart 389 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:51,800 Speaker 1: or H and M might actually make some people happy. 390 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 1: Despite that being sad and dystopian if you stop and 391 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:57,080 Speaker 1: think about it, right, like, because that's that's actually like 392 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:00,320 Speaker 1: it's a it's a very capitalist thing. But it does 393 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 1: make us happy because that's that's what we've been trained 394 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 1: to do since we're babies. So that there's there is 395 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:07,880 Speaker 1: that side of it for in terms of like, yeah, 396 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 1: I can see if I really don't want to leave 397 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:11,359 Speaker 1: the house, but I want to get the experience of 398 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:14,679 Speaker 1: walking through a place, maybe I will walk through a 399 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 1: target to get groceries. I don't know as some people 400 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 1: maybe it might do that, but otherwise, you know, it's 401 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:23,359 Speaker 1: much It is much simpler and easier to just scroll 402 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:25,280 Speaker 1: through a two D thing on a web page and 403 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:27,560 Speaker 1: and and and and do the things you need. That's 404 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:30,359 Speaker 1: the thing. Like it's like, yeah, I mean absolutely because 405 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:32,199 Speaker 1: I I when I was making fun of one of 406 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:34,320 Speaker 1: these videos, somebody like called it out as being able 407 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:36,120 Speaker 1: list and was like fixing all the uses this as 408 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 1: for a disabled person if they can use this, they 409 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:41,680 Speaker 1: can use Amazon. And like as a person who sometimes 410 00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:44,280 Speaker 1: I don't shop for groceries at Amazon, but I've shop 411 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:49,159 Speaker 1: for groceries online. It's fine. The it's it's it's everything 412 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:52,160 Speaker 1: it needs to be. You can get your groceries online, 413 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:53,760 Speaker 1: and the metaverse is just going to make it like 414 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:58,359 Speaker 1: weird and off putting and unnecessarily complicated, because at the moment, 415 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:01,239 Speaker 1: I can get groceries with my own while I'm like 416 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 1: jogging um or as I'm like sitting in traffic, or 417 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 1: like while I'm on a zoom call listening to Garrison 418 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:10,040 Speaker 1: talk about the metaverse as opposed to putting on a 419 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:13,520 Speaker 1: headset and like doing the same thing basically as driving there, 420 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 1: but more expensively. Anyway, are your shopping right now? I 421 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:22,520 Speaker 1: am ordering se cans of zvia and forty pounds of 422 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:28,920 Speaker 1: raw beef, normal week's worth of food for me, And 423 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:32,679 Speaker 1: that's literally like two days for him. See but Robert, 424 00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:35,200 Speaker 1: you could be doing this while wearing a bucket on 425 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:38,080 Speaker 1: your head and walking around a fake store. I could 426 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:39,920 Speaker 1: wear a bucket on my head to the real store. 427 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:53,240 Speaker 1: They can't stop me. I usually wear a bathrobe. This 428 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 1: is the first half where it's like, you know, buying 429 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:58,880 Speaker 1: actual physical items you planned to receive in stores, you know, furniture. 430 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 1: It's actually kind of makes sense. Uh. Food, it's a 431 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:04,520 Speaker 1: little bit iffy. The only kind of consideration there is 432 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:07,600 Speaker 1: If people want the mental effect of walking around a store, 433 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 1: if they find that pleasurable, then it's a thing. But 434 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:12,119 Speaker 1: you know, it's way more efficient to just scroll through 435 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 1: your phone. Um As for the other side buying virtual items, 436 00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:18,440 Speaker 1: whether they be you know, n f T S video 437 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:22,879 Speaker 1: game skins or super special exclusive VR hangout rooms, I 438 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:25,240 Speaker 1: don't give a funk how this works. If you want 439 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:27,359 Speaker 1: to walk around a VR vault about your VR art 440 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:31,159 Speaker 1: and your VR clothes, knock yourself out. I buy Sonic 441 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:33,159 Speaker 1: the Hedgehog games. We all have our weird things we 442 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:35,359 Speaker 1: do that don't make any sense. Yeah, if that's if 443 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 1: these parcery stores are just gonna be like the seven 444 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 1: weirdest people in the country masturbannings, they buy wine. And 445 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:48,960 Speaker 1: that's the thing, Robert I was when I was when 446 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:51,080 Speaker 1: I was doing the digital picture. At the beginning, I 447 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:53,800 Speaker 1: had two scenarios, one where you align the bottles into 448 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 1: a deck. The other one I was gonna say, you 449 00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:58,240 Speaker 1: take off your pants and start masturbating, and I decided 450 00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:00,040 Speaker 1: not to do that one. So I'm happy that it 451 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:04,200 Speaker 1: was because because yeah, that is the actual use case 452 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:06,440 Speaker 1: for this, is that someone people are gonna be walking 453 00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:09,640 Speaker 1: around these fake Walmarts just all cherking off. That's what's 454 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:12,480 Speaker 1: gonna happen there. They're gonna have this animation of a real, 455 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:15,160 Speaker 1: real female employee of theirs who like pops up when 456 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 1: you do something you're not supposed to do and explain 457 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:19,240 Speaker 1: something to you. And it's going to be impossible to 458 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:21,720 Speaker 1: remove initially, and people are going to turn it into 459 00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:24,199 Speaker 1: a whole weird, horny thing, and like they will appear 460 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:26,680 Speaker 1: in all these circumstances, it's gonna go. It's going to 461 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 1: be the only thing that goes viral, Like it's gonna 462 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:32,119 Speaker 1: be the only thing people remember five years later about 463 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 1: the first of these This is I'm gonna start go 464 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:36,359 Speaker 1: back to this towards the end of part two, But 465 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:38,480 Speaker 1: this is the actual way to handle the metaverse, because 466 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:41,119 Speaker 1: we're gonna this this thing is going to be forced 467 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:43,359 Speaker 1: on us one way or another. We're gonna have a 468 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:45,919 Speaker 1: form of it, and honestly, the best thing we can 469 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:48,200 Speaker 1: do with it is either ignore it, ignore it, or 470 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:51,520 Speaker 1: maybe more attractively, is to funk with it. Like that's 471 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:53,480 Speaker 1: gonna be the thing that's gonna be the thing to do. 472 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:57,440 Speaker 1: There was an acule a few days ago that the 473 00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:01,440 Speaker 1: headline is Final Fantasy porn interrupts a Allian Senate zoom event. 474 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:06,400 Speaker 1: Someone someone joined it and started playing poured from Final 475 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:12,639 Speaker 1: Fantasy seven, Like this is to do This is the 476 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 1: way that we need to do it. If there's gonna 477 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:20,199 Speaker 1: be dumbmass like meetings on the Zuckerberg metaverse, people need 478 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 1: to go in and make it weirdly horny. Yeah, Garrison, 479 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:26,840 Speaker 1: I could not agree more that that's the what you 480 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:29,960 Speaker 1: need to do, citizens of the Internet is look up 481 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:34,320 Speaker 1: something awful habo h A B b O hotel. That's 482 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:36,200 Speaker 1: the kind of ship that we need to be doing. 483 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:40,399 Speaker 1: In fucking um. In in the there was basically a 484 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:42,879 Speaker 1: children's video game was an early kids MMO and a 485 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:45,600 Speaker 1: bunch of weird adults and something awful decided to create 486 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:48,680 Speaker 1: an unsettling cult of people who all looked identical and 487 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:51,440 Speaker 1: marched around doing all of these weird, unsettling things in 488 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:55,680 Speaker 1: a children's game. It was very fun um like or 489 00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:58,320 Speaker 1: or like in a in Second life when it was 490 00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:01,760 Speaker 1: the new big sexy thing. There is this very self 491 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:05,840 Speaker 1: important tech writer, investor type person who was doing a 492 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:08,440 Speaker 1: Q and A and people just like animated thousands of 493 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:12,280 Speaker 1: floating penises going around this is, this is gonna be 494 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:13,879 Speaker 1: the thing. This is what you're gonna have to do 495 00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:17,399 Speaker 1: because in order, because if it's gonna be this horrible 496 00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 1: corporate hell, the only way to do it, the only 497 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:21,680 Speaker 1: way to deal with that is to make it unusable 498 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:24,560 Speaker 1: for everybody so that so that it doesn't get used. 499 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 1: And the way to do that is by putting dicks 500 00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:32,159 Speaker 1: everywhere dicks, andwhe ever decides to do a multiverse presentation, 501 00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:34,560 Speaker 1: or if one party or another has had decides to 502 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:40,320 Speaker 1: a multiverse debate, it is everyone's moral responsibility, civic civic duty. 503 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:42,720 Speaker 1: This goes beyond civic. This is as a citizen of 504 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:45,879 Speaker 1: the human race. You know, as a member of this species, 505 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:47,920 Speaker 1: you have to try to find a way to funk 506 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:51,680 Speaker 1: it up for them. Something could be more important. So yeah, 507 00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:53,959 Speaker 1: So if if you're buying digital items, do you never 508 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:56,159 Speaker 1: plant everything even person, I don't care how you do it. 509 00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:58,800 Speaker 1: Knock yourself out. We all have our weird things. I 510 00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:02,560 Speaker 1: b saw like DLCs, people do World of Warcraft. If 511 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:05,040 Speaker 1: you want to get of art piece, you can only 512 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:08,360 Speaker 1: hang in your digital room. That sounds miserable, but have fun. 513 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:11,679 Speaker 1: I I used the internet to order very off putting 514 00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:15,960 Speaker 1: Danish cheese product. Oh yeah, that did happen. That was 515 00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:19,040 Speaker 1: off putting. It was weird. It was like you tried 516 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:21,119 Speaker 1: to trick yourself into liking it when you were eating it. 517 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:23,720 Speaker 1: Though I we I don't remember not liking it because 518 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:25,680 Speaker 1: I hated it amount. But I've had the second cube 519 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:28,000 Speaker 1: sitting around and I've had no desired to open desired. 520 00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:30,760 Speaker 1: Yeah anyway, so I did not like it. I just 521 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:32,640 Speaker 1: I don't know that I ever want to eat it again. 522 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:37,600 Speaker 1: Quality audio content. So here's the thing. I have not 523 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:40,560 Speaker 1: actually been talking about the metaverse. Nothing I've mentioned thus 524 00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:43,280 Speaker 1: far actually is the metaverse and doesn't have really anything 525 00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 1: to do with the metaverse besides the technology of a 526 00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:49,360 Speaker 1: VR and a R. You know. It turns out companies 527 00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:52,880 Speaker 1: like Facebook, Epic, Microsoft, Invalve, the way they talk about 528 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:54,560 Speaker 1: the metaverse is kind of all a big lie. Like 529 00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:57,320 Speaker 1: if it's not metaverse, it's a it's an astros turf 530 00:28:57,360 --> 00:29:00,240 Speaker 1: top down marketing scheme to turn more of you into 531 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:04,160 Speaker 1: data and to create and to create vinyl marketing like 532 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:07,720 Speaker 1: that's instant instead of an interconnected solution to the alienated 533 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:10,440 Speaker 1: bubbles of Web two, it's just a social media network 534 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 1: that encompasses all of your vision and encourages even more 535 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:18,200 Speaker 1: digital alienation and less in person socialization. Kids, you know 536 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:20,360 Speaker 1: the worst stuff about the internet. What if it was 537 00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 1: the only thing about the Internet. What if it was 538 00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:26,480 Speaker 1: encompanying everything you see instead of just a computer screen. 539 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:29,640 Speaker 1: And so all of the gaming CEOs who were talking 540 00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:32,000 Speaker 1: about the promise of n f T s and like, 541 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:34,800 Speaker 1: I think it was the one of the guys who 542 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:36,480 Speaker 1: runs read and I think it might have been Alexis 543 00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:39,160 Speaker 1: so haney In or whatever their name is who said that, 544 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:42,120 Speaker 1: like in five years of games will be n f 545 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:44,280 Speaker 1: T based because people don't like wasting their time and 546 00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:46,760 Speaker 1: not getting compensated for it. Like, do you know what 547 00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:53,000 Speaker 1: it games is? That's not what people. So I'm gonna 548 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:56,120 Speaker 1: I'm gonna talk more about metaverse as big tech or 549 00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:59,640 Speaker 1: just bigger tech in part two. But this this, this, 550 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,840 Speaker 1: this will be wrapping up part one of the digital storefronts, 551 00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 1: and then we'll get into some more kind of applications 552 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:08,040 Speaker 1: of this and how we're actually seeing it in the 553 00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:10,719 Speaker 1: second half. So, Robert, do you wanna do you want 554 00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:15,480 Speaker 1: to go buy a virtual uh block of Danish cheese? Um? No, 555 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:17,840 Speaker 1: I did when I was hanging out on top of 556 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:19,239 Speaker 1: the mountain. The other day, I ran into a guy 557 00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:21,320 Speaker 1: flying some drones, which I normally don't like. But this 558 00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:23,920 Speaker 1: guy had a VR control rig for his very nice drones. 559 00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:28,560 Speaker 1: That's those are dope. I might, I might get into 560 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:32,600 Speaker 1: that ship. Uh, but no, I have no desire to shop. 561 00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:35,600 Speaker 1: I like going to the grocery store, um as, I 562 00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:38,040 Speaker 1: do as much of my shopping that way as possible 563 00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:42,640 Speaker 1: because it's soothing and uh nice, and I think very 564 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:45,200 Speaker 1: human to go be around other people to get food. 565 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:47,840 Speaker 1: But yeah, that's the thing, you know, and things like 566 00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:49,600 Speaker 1: the pandemic where that it comes harder. I think that 567 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:52,400 Speaker 1: is where the use cases for the digital stores actually 568 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:56,160 Speaker 1: come in, Like theoretically, but we've never you've never seen 569 00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 1: them that feeling that's soothing, which it all just looks 570 00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:02,840 Speaker 1: deeply off putting. It all. It's the problem is that 571 00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:05,360 Speaker 1: it's it's stuck. It's stuck in the uncanny valley. So 572 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:10,160 Speaker 1: it's not pleasurable to be in those digital spaces because 573 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:14,120 Speaker 1: you're even though it's being marketed as a solution to alienation, 574 00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:18,200 Speaker 1: it's just more alienating because it's because it's it's like 575 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:22,360 Speaker 1: very clearly exposing the alienation that we try to avoid. UM, 576 00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:24,320 Speaker 1: So it falls right in the middle of the uncanny 577 00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:28,560 Speaker 1: valley and it's not pleasant, but we we we we 578 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:30,800 Speaker 1: We will talk more about that in part two. Um. 579 00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:33,160 Speaker 1: If you want to follow the show on the social 580 00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:36,720 Speaker 1: media's that is cool Zone Media and Happen Here pod. 581 00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:39,480 Speaker 1: You can keep up with my tweets when I I 582 00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:41,320 Speaker 1: don't know, I don't know what I do on Twitter anymore, 583 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:44,600 Speaker 1: but that's hungry about tie. And you can harass Robert 584 00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:49,280 Speaker 1: Evans at I read Okay, that's the show. Do it 585 00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:58,200 Speaker 1: do it? Are all kill? 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