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Speaker 1: one of those idiots will believe in analytics. This is
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Speaker 1: It's kill Alexander, It's Kelly Bidlin Monday Morning at bark
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Speaker 2: We've definitely been prepared and ready to do this show
Speaker 2: for thirty four minutes.
Speaker 1: Now we have. We didn't just turn on the lights.
Speaker 1: Lights just turned on two seconds ago and Kelly and
Speaker 1: I were like, oh yeah, lights. We could have done
Speaker 1: this for an hour without realizing were on. Hey, Happy Thanksgiving,
Speaker 1: Kelly Bidley giving. What is more awkward saying Happy Thanksgiving
Speaker 1: prior to the holiday? It supplies to any holiday, well, Christmases,
Speaker 1: don't thing is people say, hey Christmas, I know where
Speaker 1: you're going. Happy Thanksgiving prior to the holiday or the
Speaker 1: day after Thanksgiving still coming out with a Happy Thanksgiving.
Speaker 1: We're kind of going Larry David the whole Happy New
Speaker 1: Year's thing. Here on me. I got you.
Speaker 2: I think I think happy Thanksgiving your you are now
Speaker 2: okay to say as of today. As of today, I
Speaker 2: get it needs to stop on after Friday. I agree,
Speaker 2: I think you get you get till sundown on Friday.
Speaker 1: I that it needs to stop. I like it. We
Speaker 1: will adhere to those rules. This is guessing lines for
Speaker 1: week number twelve in the National Football League. Happy Thanksgiving
Speaker 1: to you and yours. If you're unfamiliar with this process,
Speaker 1: I'm unfamiliar with the lines of week twelve. I'm the cocoon.
Speaker 1: I guess what they are. Kelly will tell me what
Speaker 1: they are afterwards. Within that process, we hope to extract value.
Speaker 1: It has been a spectacular process all year long. It
Speaker 1: has gotten us to winners week after week after week.
Speaker 1: One week week five, I think it was. It was
Speaker 1: terrible every other week, including this past one. Were of
Speaker 1: the two games we like the best here, or at
Speaker 1: least that I did. Minnesota and Cleveland both got there.
Speaker 1: It was just plinko at the end for Minnesota for sure,
Speaker 1: and some might argue for Cleveland. I'd argue in both
Speaker 1: cases it shouldn't even got into a plinko situation. We'll
Speaker 1: get into in that whole process, we go through everything
Speaker 1: that happened yesterday in the NFL as well, and what
Speaker 1: a day it was with some of these outcomes. We'll
Speaker 1: get to it all momentarily on this Thanksgiving way where
Speaker 1: we've got three games on Thanksgiving, and I know we
Speaker 1: got a Black Friday game as well. I know that
Speaker 1: from Circus Survivor, And speaking of Survivor, there were six
Speaker 1: hundred and nine of the of the original nine, two
Speaker 1: hundred and sixty seven entries left still alive heading into
Speaker 1: this past week in Circus Survivor, one thousand dollars of
Speaker 1: pop per entry, nine million, two hundred and sixty seven
Speaker 1: thousand dollars at steak. Of those six hundred and nine,
Speaker 1: Kelly almost forty percent thirty eight point nine two percent
Speaker 1: knocked out, two hundred and thirty seven knocked out this
Speaker 1: past Thursday and Sunday really alt Yesterday, three hundred and
Speaker 1: seventy two left. Three hundred and seventy two players are left,
Speaker 1: most yesterday knocked out on the Washington Commodores. If I
Speaker 1: had had them left, I'd use them to three hundred
Speaker 1: seven teventy two left. That means eight thou eight eight thousand,
Speaker 1: eight hundred and ninety five of the nine thousand, two
Speaker 1: hundred and sixty seven eliminated ninety five point ninety nine
Speaker 1: percent eliminated, three seventy two left. Last year, at this
Speaker 1: time there was only seventy four left. Ninety eight point
Speaker 1: six percent had been eliminated, so three hundred and seventy
Speaker 1: two left. The intrinsic value of each of those remaining
Speaker 1: three hundred and seventy two entries is you're gonna tell
Speaker 1: me twenty four thousand, nine hundred eleven dollars and twenty
Speaker 1: nine cents.
Speaker 2: Do you know how many rebuy opportunities I would need
Speaker 2: at this point to still be alive. It'd be two
Speaker 2: for me, Okay, I think it would be minimum three
Speaker 2: because this one, for sure, I would have been.
Speaker 1: Out on this too. I wi did the Dallas Detroit thing,
Speaker 1: and I would have had Dallas yesterday. I got Detroit
Speaker 1: on Thursday. But that the second one is a beautiful
Speaker 1: thing because the self loathing goes down to zero. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because you're so angry, you're so upset with yourself. I
Speaker 1: wasn't really with Washington, thinkuse that's how I wanted to
Speaker 1: play it. But for most when they lose in a
Speaker 1: heartbreaking fashion, you're just it's so brutal. But then when
Speaker 1: you lose the second time, you're like, yeah, it wouldn't
Speaker 1: have mattered anyway. Yeah, it definitely does mentally help us, Yes,
Speaker 1: for sure. So congratulations to the remaining three hundred and
Speaker 1: seventy two. Are those that are responsible for those three
Speaker 1: hundred seventy two. Tony Farmer over there at Odds Shark
Speaker 1: and apparently he is using survivor Atlas for these stats.
Speaker 1: Of the remaining three hundred and seventy two, first of all,
Speaker 1: he has two of them. But of the remaining three
Speaker 1: hundred and seventy two, Kelly, there are only forty one
Speaker 1: people that have more than one entry. This gets backed
Speaker 1: again to my philosophy that having multiple entries ultimately doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: Now people are like, oh, what do you mean. Probably
Speaker 1: they had so many more and they played it than
Speaker 1: they have was in the end, everybody has one typically speaking,
Speaker 1: so only forty one of those three seventy two have
Speaker 1: more than one. Only fourteen or so of those forty
Speaker 1: one twenty excuse me, fourteen of those people have three
Speaker 1: plus entries. We'll tell you what. Let me do it one.
Speaker 1: Let me do it this way, let me do it systematically.
Speaker 1: Six have three left. So what is it? It's it's
Speaker 1: I'll do the math. It's twenty seven have two, twenty
Speaker 1: seven people have two entries, six have three remaining two
Speaker 1: people two have four, Two people have four entries remaining.
Speaker 1: One person has five entries remaining. Two people have six
Speaker 1: entries remaining. What one has eight and two have ten.
Speaker 1: So again only forty one with over one with more
Speaker 1: than one entry. Twenty seven have two, six have three,
Speaker 1: two have four, one have five, two have six, have
Speaker 1: one has eight, two have ten. Thank you, Tony former,
Speaker 1: Thank you survivor alas for those numbers surviving breakdown the.
Speaker 2: Deep dive like poker stack like percentage chance of those
Speaker 2: guys getting home with I mean two, you've got two
Speaker 2: to ten left. He also, you have to have a
Speaker 2: sizeable advantage over the field with that.
Speaker 1: He also had sixteen entries having no Thanksgiving favorites left
Speaker 1: No Miami, Dallas, Detroit, or San Francisco fifty six percent
Speaker 1: have Detroit available, twenty four percent, Dallas eleven percent, San
Speaker 1: Francisco nine percent Miami. Thank you for those numbers. Shall
Speaker 1: we do a Thanksgiving game here before we have to
Speaker 1: go to commercial. Yeah, let's do it.
Speaker 2: Let's get the open up at provid Yes and lines yes,
Speaker 2: lines twelve.
Speaker 1: As I check, I had to make Sucharlotte keeping my
Speaker 1: DiMaggio likes streak alive, not remembering that we have that open.
Speaker 2: That's why I'm here, man, all right. Thursday early to
Speaker 2: start with the Lions Packers at Lions twelve thirty East.
Speaker 1: The four and six Packers after their win over the
Speaker 1: Chargers yesterday, The eight and two Detroit Lions. The Packers
Speaker 1: yesterday against the Chargers. They they win this game, but boy,
Speaker 1: oh boy, I don't know how they did. Fourth and two.
Speaker 1: It that midfield eleven o nine left in the first quarter,
Speaker 1: green Bay with the ball one yard loss, but Joey
Speaker 1: Bosa leaves with a foot injury. At that point in
Speaker 1: the game, Chargers end up with a fourth and four.
Speaker 1: They do not convert, by the way fourth and fourth
Speaker 1: for the Charges. The green Bay forty three nine to
Speaker 1: forty one left in the first quarter, they do not convert.
Speaker 1: Herbert incompleted in tendant for Parhum. Later it's three to
Speaker 1: nothing Chargers after a Dicker twenty five yard field goal
Speaker 1: first play second quarter, Jaden Reid for thirty two seven
Speaker 1: to three. Green Bay Chargers go seventy five yard six
Speaker 1: plays Herbert to Stone Smart for fifty one ten to seven.
Speaker 1: Chargers twelve sixteen left in the second quarter. It would
Speaker 1: be ten to ten at halftime after Andrews Carlson missed
Speaker 1: a fifty two yard field goal, but made a twenty
Speaker 1: eight yarder, so ten to ten at the break. Now
Speaker 1: here's where the Chargers got Chargery Allan Keenan Allen drops
Speaker 1: a sure seven yard touchdown pass. Chargers have to settle
Speaker 1: for a Dicker twenty six yard field goal thirteen to ten. Chargers.
Speaker 1: Remember that after a trade of punts, green Bay goes
Speaker 1: seventy yards Loved to Watson from eleven sixteen to thirteen.
Speaker 1: Green Bay miss Carlson pat and third quarter ensuing drive
Speaker 1: maybe the biggest play of the game. At the time,
Speaker 1: Chargers matriculate for their own twenty five second in goal.
Speaker 1: Eckler tackled Mike Anny Clark fumbles second in goal at
Speaker 1: the two. He fumbles, Rashan Gary recovers green Bay punt.
Speaker 1: Remember that play. After green Bay punt, Chargers go sixty
Speaker 1: three yards Herbert to Allen for ten twenty to sixteen Chargers,
Speaker 1: but then Green Bay goes seventy five on the following drive,
Speaker 1: Love to Dobbs from twenty four out twenty three to
Speaker 1: twenty green Bay two thirty three to go, Chargers four
Speaker 1: and out, but they had all three timeouts. Green Bay
Speaker 1: three and out. The Chargers get the ball back with
Speaker 1: one twenty seven to go at their own twenty third
Speaker 1: and six from their own thirty Herbert deep to Quenton
Speaker 1: Johnston behind the defense on his hands, drop Nope. And
Speaker 1: then on fourth and one from their own thirty five
Speaker 1: Herberts pass Baten down ball game. Green Bay wins twenty
Speaker 1: three to twenty. What's that three plays? We counted the
Speaker 1: Allen drop, the the Eckler fumble at the two, and
Speaker 1: then the Quentin Johnson dropped. Green Bay wins at twenty
Speaker 1: three twenty. Jordan Love twenty seven to forty for three
Speaker 1: twenty two two touchdowns, no picks. He was sacked three times.
Speaker 1: Jayden Reid forty six on the ground, forty six receiving
Speaker 1: get a touchdown on the ground as well. And then
Speaker 1: there's Detroit first drive of the game. Chicago's seventy five
Speaker 1: yards down to Foreman in from one seven to nothing Chicago.
Speaker 1: Goff would throw a pick then Tyreek Stevenson getting it,
Speaker 1: but didn't lead to anything. Chicago had to punt, but
Speaker 1: Detroit second drive golf picked again by t J. Edwards,
Speaker 1: this time on first and twenty at the Chicago forty
Speaker 1: five fourteen thirty eight left second quarter, Then two plays
Speaker 1: into the Chicago and suing drive fields and Tyler Scott
Speaker 1: hit by Cameron Sudden fumbles. Alexandelone recovers of the Chicago
Speaker 1: thirty four a play after Goff almost throws a pick
Speaker 1: six that would have been his third pick of the game,
Speaker 1: instead gives in from two seven to seven, nine to
Speaker 1: twenty three left in the second quarter. After a Santos
Speaker 1: thirty one yard field goal made it ten to seven Chicago.
Speaker 1: Detroit gets the ball at their own twenty five with
Speaker 1: one forty seven left in the half, goes seventy five
Speaker 1: yards GoF to Saint Brown from seven out fourteen ten Detroit.
Speaker 1: Half time, You're like, Okay, Detroit is just gonna roll
Speaker 1: from here. Noope. Third quarter After Detroit punt Santo's fifty
Speaker 1: three yard field goal fourteen thirteen, Detroit then ensuing kit
Speaker 1: Craig Reynolds popped fumble recovered by Demarcy's gates at the
Speaker 1: Detroit forty three plays later, fills to Dj Moore from
Speaker 1: thirty nine out, touchdown twenty to fourteen, Bears four to
Speaker 1: forty one left third quarter and suing drive third and
Speaker 1: six of their own forty six golf picked over the
Speaker 1: middle by Tremaine Edmonds goff just reverting to his old
Speaker 1: self Chicago short field starting out the Detroit forty three
Speaker 1: that leads to Santo's forty yardfield goal twenty three to fourteen,
Speaker 1: Chicago fourteen twelve to go. Another Detroit three and out,
Speaker 1: Another Santo's field goal, this from thirty nine, twenty six
Speaker 1: to fourteen Chicago now four fifteen to go Detroit. Then
Speaker 1: with four minutes and fifteen seconds left in the game, Galley,
Speaker 1: they're down twelve. They wake up six plays, seventy five
Speaker 1: yards golf to Jamison Williams from thirty two, and just
Speaker 1: like that, in one minute and twenty seconds, it's twenty
Speaker 1: six twenty one Chicago. Then of course a Chicago three
Speaker 1: and out. Detroit takes over down five with two thirty
Speaker 1: three to go, seventy three yards and eleven plays. None
Speaker 1: of the plays longer than thirteen yards. Here's with casual matriculation.
Speaker 1: Montgomery in from one with twenty nine seconds left, two
Speaker 1: point conversion. Good golf to Laporta twenty nine to twenty six. Lions,
Speaker 1: then fields sacked by Hutchinson, ball kicked out of the
Speaker 1: back of the end zone by Darnell Right. Hutchinson kicks
Speaker 1: it to the moon after that, no flag, by the way,
Speaker 1: which could have come into play. Thirty one to twenty
Speaker 1: six Detroit ballgame. That was the most stealth come from behind. Waight,
Speaker 1: what just happened finished that? I can remember? Golf twenty
Speaker 1: three of thirty five for two thirty six, two touchdowns,
Speaker 1: three picks. He was sacked twice. Gibbs eight for thirty
Speaker 1: six on the ground with touchdown six catches for fifty nine.
Speaker 1: They were out time of possession. The Lions were forty
Speaker 1: minutes and twenty four seconds to nineteen thirty six, and
Speaker 1: they were minus two in turnovers. But it led to
Speaker 1: only plus one Chicago net point green Bay at Detroit
Speaker 1: to start Thanksgiving, I'll say the Lions by seven even touchdown.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you are very close seven and a half right
Speaker 2: now at DraftKings. I did lay the seven yesterday. You
Speaker 2: did yeah, yeah, small and I might be involving this
Speaker 2: in teasers. This is I think you made a great
Speaker 2: point about this Lions defense becoming a little shaky, you
Speaker 2: know now, kind of towards middle of the season.
Speaker 1: You brought that up last week. You don't trust him
Speaker 1: as much hearing on that. I still think this Packers
Speaker 1: team is pretty pretty terrible. That they should Packers shouldn't
Speaker 1: have won yesterday. I don't know how the Lions did.
Speaker 1: Lions are nothing there for me. Doesn't leap off the page.
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Speaker 1: for week number twelve in the National Football League. As
Speaker 1: we roll in here, the music is blaring at the
Speaker 1: d and this morning they were playing Bob Seekers. We
Speaker 1: got tonight, which I have annoyingly been said now in
Speaker 1: between every segment, every chance I get, and Kelly wants
Speaker 1: it out of his head, So I'm just gonna do
Speaker 1: it for the rest of the show. Only night move.
Speaker 1: So it's the only song loud, and we figured out,
Speaker 1: because we're geniuses, that it's the d Derek Stevens is
Speaker 1: from Detroit, and they're playing a lot of Bob Seeker.
Speaker 1: I think we can. I think we're reading too much
Speaker 1: into it, maybe maybe because otherwise we're missing some great
Speaker 1: kid rock around here. They show enough to play a
Speaker 1: lot of Bob Singer in here. They'll tell you that
Speaker 1: one F one, I have to I have to get
Speaker 1: all this in on this show. I know we have
Speaker 1: to guess lines, but I have to get all this
Speaker 1: in F one. The Formula one race here on Saturday night,
Speaker 1: we're gonna compartmentalize. There's two. There's two conversations to be had.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about the race itself. First of all, let's
Speaker 1: flash up a picture. This was my vantage point. This
Speaker 1: is on the roof of my building watching the race.
Speaker 1: Glorious Las Vegas event. Let me just say this, and
Speaker 1: better than you were expecting. Right, Well, I mean, I
Speaker 1: know what my view is, but the fact that we
Speaker 1: got to see where my vantage point is is the
Speaker 1: corner of the Strip and Harmon. For those who were
Speaker 1: unfamiliar with the street names, it's right where the Cosmo
Speaker 1: and the Aria. The street right in between the Cosmo
Speaker 1: and the Aria perpendicular to Las to the Las Vegas Strip.
Speaker 1: So they're coming down that picture. They're coming down the
Speaker 1: strip at two hundred and forty miles an hour, And
Speaker 1: my vantage point was perfect because I'd see them at
Speaker 1: two forty, then I'd see them have to slow down. Right,
Speaker 1: We got them where they had to slow down and
Speaker 1: make not quite a ninety degree left turn, but enough
Speaker 1: so that I sound like my dad was like, what
Speaker 1: do you mean they throw the baseball one hundred miles
Speaker 1: an hour? I couldn't believe, like these cars are able
Speaker 1: to stop so smoothly like that and turn. But we
Speaker 1: got to see where, you know, La Clerk passed verstap
Speaker 1: in the first time perfectly. And I had a bunch
Speaker 1: of f on and hard os up on the roof
Speaker 1: with me, and they had their TVs and they were
Speaker 1: giving me all the play by play, so it gave
Speaker 1: great context to it. So let me just say this,
Speaker 1: the race itself, those that period of time when the
Speaker 1: race was happening was gorgeous. Las Vegas, Nevada never looked
Speaker 1: more beauty. That was the best sort of advertisement for
Speaker 1: this city that there could ever be. And let me
Speaker 1: just say the part that I watched on TV two
Speaker 1: from sky Sports. Sky Sports did a phenomenal job televising this,
Speaker 1: and American sports media that does the broad that does
Speaker 1: golf broadcasts could learn a lesson from them because they
Speaker 1: didn't just focus on the leaders. They focused on everybody.
Speaker 1: Here's someone passing, you know, for eighth place. So they
Speaker 1: did such a great job of that, and golf we
Speaker 1: see with every tournament it just wait, why aren't you
Speaker 1: showing so and so who's in third place? Can we
Speaker 1: see one? You know? And so there was a lesson
Speaker 1: to be learned from that. But Las Vegas never looked
Speaker 1: more beautiful. The race was awesome. It was electric that night,
Speaker 1: like the whole thing was surreal, Like I can't believe
Speaker 1: they pulled this off. And so in that respect, you
Speaker 1: got to give them props for that. However, everything else
Speaker 1: that we endured for this, right the six months of construction,
Speaker 1: the arrogance of security that the weekend, the fact that everything,
Speaker 1: every square inch in this town was monetized. Probably some
Speaker 1: politician was greased, and nobody has the you know, the
Speaker 1: courage to do an investigation on it. It's a ten
Speaker 1: year contract. But I will tell you this what it's
Speaker 1: gonna come down to. They're just gonna look at the economics,
Speaker 1: did the city, did the strip make more money than
Speaker 1: it otherwise would have, and all the indications by the
Speaker 1: way or that it might not have. And so we'll see,
Speaker 1: we'll see how this goes down.
Speaker 2: I mean, the only the only day I got remotely
Speaker 2: closed down there was that was Thursday night. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: was a little I don't want to say it was
Speaker 2: shocked because I knew it was Thursday. I knew it
Speaker 2: still wasn't like Friday Saturday. But crowds were light around
Speaker 2: the Caesars, the Great Caesar's Palace.
Speaker 1: It was pretty dark cool on Saturday night. Man, it
Speaker 1: was it was. I mean, like the fact that it happened,
Speaker 1: Like it's surreal that that they pulled this off. That
Speaker 1: was that part is.
Speaker 2: But I mean it's not so it's not as as
Speaker 2: surreal when we've been sitting through it for seven months
Speaker 2: or whatever.
Speaker 1: It's people who have been here long enough say it
Speaker 1: was war worst than that NBA All Star weekend. The
Speaker 1: six months of this was worth worse than that famous
Speaker 1: NBA All Star weekend. Let's do another Thanksgiving game, all right?
Speaker 1: Next up, we got the commanders at the Cowboys. Uh,
Speaker 1: the Commodes four and seven Washington commodes against the Dallas Cowboys,
Speaker 1: who are seven and three. What a traditional Thanksgiving matchup.
Speaker 1: This is Detroit and Dallas, obviously with home games traditionally
Speaker 1: on Thanksgiving each and every year, Washington loses to the Giants.
Speaker 1: I do not know how this happened. First drive of
Speaker 1: the game, they sacked Tommy DeVito twice, but which would
Speaker 1: be a port of things to come. But then Howell
Speaker 1: was picked his first drive deep by first drive deep
Speaker 1: by Nick Nick McLeod, they would sack Washington would sack
Speaker 1: DeVito five times in the first quarter, the most in
Speaker 1: a first quarter by any team of opposing quarterback since
Speaker 1: two thousand and six. After Giants three and out, skin
Speaker 1: second play on the drive, Howel to Logan Thomas hit
Speaker 1: by Michael McFadden and Xavier McKinney recovers at the Washington
Speaker 1: forty seven that led to a short field and de
Speaker 1: veto to Saquon twenty four year old touchdown pass seven
Speaker 1: to nothing, Giants six twenty nine left in the first quarter.
Speaker 1: The one guy that can beat you, they couldn't stop him.
Speaker 1: After a sly twenty three yard field going to make
Speaker 1: it seven to three, and after a trade of punts
Speaker 1: Giants fourth and two at the Washington thirty four to
Speaker 1: ten eighteen left second quarter incomplete pass, but after the
Speaker 1: skin after Washington three and out, Giants go sixty two
Speaker 1: yards to veto to Darius Slayton for forty fourteen to
Speaker 1: three Higantes. Washington then goes seventy five yards howl in
Speaker 1: from eight in a on a play where he was
Speaker 1: like a pinball, knocking off players ended up on the ground.
Speaker 1: Flags were thrown fourteen to nine because Slive misses the
Speaker 1: pat that would be the halftime score. Opening kickof second
Speaker 1: half Byron Pringle fumbles for Washington. Javarius Owens recovers to
Speaker 1: the Washington thirty four, but the Giants go backwards on
Speaker 1: the seventh and eighth sacks of DeVito of the game,
Speaker 1: Skins them matriculate slide from forty two fourteen to twelve Giants.
Speaker 1: Maybe Washington could pull us off. After another three and
Speaker 1: out for the Giants punctuated by the ninth sack of DeVito,
Speaker 1: Washington has first and ten at the Giants thirty five
Speaker 1: with fifty one seconds left and the third quarter and
Speaker 1: Chris Rodriguez Juniors hit by Xavier He recovered by Micah McFadden.
Speaker 1: The turnovers one after another that would lead to a
Speaker 1: Giant sixty seven yard drive Saquon for thirty six to
Speaker 1: start it to veto to Saquon from five out to
Speaker 1: end it twenty one to twelve Giants, thirteen thirty two
Speaker 1: left Howell, then picked by Darnay Holmes when he just
Speaker 1: threw it up for grabs, led to a bullock thirty
Speaker 1: six yard field will twenty four to twelve Giants six
Speaker 1: forty eight to go. Washington then go seventy five yards
Speaker 1: howl the Dotson for eight twenty four to nineteen Giants.
Speaker 1: Then after a Giants three and out, Washington down five
Speaker 1: with the ball. They're oh, nineteen one, forty nine to go.
Speaker 1: They can do this, Kelly. They get it to first
Speaker 1: and fifteen at the Giants forty eight, Howell trying to
Speaker 1: throw it away instead pick by Isaiah Simmons to paydirt
Speaker 1: to the Izzy thirty one to nineteen Giants ball game
Speaker 1: Howell thirty one to forty five for two to fifty five,
Speaker 1: one touchdown, three picks, sack four times, three carries for
Speaker 1: thirty five in a touchdown. They outgained the Giants Washington
Speaker 1: did four h three to two ninety two. They outfirst
Speaker 1: downed him twenty eight to thirteen, but they were minus six.
Speaker 1: Let me repeat that min is six and turnovers six
Speaker 1: turnovers for Washington, none for the Giants, which led to
Speaker 1: plus twenty four Giants net points. You ain't winning survivor
Speaker 1: you ain't winning any football game going minus six, and
Speaker 1: yet they had a chance to at the end. Well,
Speaker 1: they were minus five at the time when they had
Speaker 1: a chance to. And then there's Dallas, Oh, Dallas. By
Speaker 1: the way, Isaiah Simmons also continues his like once a year,
Speaker 1: you're like, huh, yeah, that could be a really good salary.
Speaker 1: Really could be. No wonder he was drafted by where
Speaker 1: he was drafted at a clempse Dallas. After a teams trade,
Speaker 1: Dallas beat Carolina after the team's traded punts. Dallas won
Speaker 1: eighty three yards dak to Luke's scoonmaker from eighteen out
Speaker 1: seven to nothing, Dallas three twenty left first quarter ten
Speaker 1: to three over Carolina. Now Dallas takes over their own
Speaker 1: forty with one to fifty six left in the second quarter.
Speaker 1: They go sixty yards on the strength of two Carolina
Speaker 1: unnecessary roughness calls Dak to ceedee Lamb from five out
Speaker 1: seventeen to three Dallas at the half, and you're like, oh,
Speaker 1: the route is on. Not so fast though. Third quarter,
Speaker 1: after a trade of punts, Carolina went ninety on seventeen
Speaker 1: plays ninety on seventeen, during which the Panthers converted a
Speaker 1: fourth and two at their own forty nine and a
Speaker 1: fourth and set. It was a fourth and seven until
Speaker 1: Dallas ran into the kicker, then Bryce to theling for
Speaker 1: Bryce to feeling for sixteen to convert that, then a
Speaker 1: fourth and three at the Dallas twenty eight, Young to
Speaker 1: Theelan for three, and then a fourth and one of
Speaker 1: the Dallas sixteen Miles Sanders for three. Three plays later,
Speaker 1: Young to tremble from four out seventeen to ten Dallas
Speaker 1: one fifty nine left in the third quarter, and you're like, oh,
Speaker 1: Carolina might cover this, they might be in this game. Nope.
Speaker 1: Dallas then goes seventy five yards pollared from twenty one
Speaker 1: twenty four to ten Dallas. The first play of the
Speaker 1: ensuing drive Bryce picked by Deron Bland. How many times
Speaker 1: have we said that? This year? Said this this year?
Speaker 1: Thirty one yards of the House thirty to ten, thirteen
Speaker 1: forty eight to go. I'll tell you how many times
Speaker 1: four Bland's fourth pick six of the year is fourth,
Speaker 1: tying the record for the most in a season, and
Speaker 1: at that point he had seven plus games left of
Speaker 1: football to break it. He's got seven games left to
Speaker 1: do it. They'd win at thirty three to ten, No
Speaker 1: use to continue. Dak twenty five at thirty eight for
Speaker 1: one nine, two touchdowns, no picks, he was not sacked,
Speaker 1: and Dallas health Carolina to thirteen first downs, just one
Speaker 1: hundred and eighty seven total yards. Remember ninety on that
Speaker 1: one drive and Dallas was plus two and turnovers that
Speaker 1: led to ten Dallas net points. Washington at Dallas second
Speaker 1: game on Thanksgiving, I will split the difference between the
Speaker 1: seven and the ten. I will say the Cowboys by
Speaker 1: eight and a half. You off it is up to eleven.
Speaker 1: How is eleven?
Speaker 2: Was? I think it's opened like ten and a half
Speaker 2: yesterday is where it was at and then we're up
Speaker 2: to eleven. Now, remember we used to talk about a
Speaker 2: bunch at the beginning of the season. How shocked I
Speaker 2: was all these big favorites, there always be this dog money.
Speaker 2: Initially it feels like the past few weeks that started.
Speaker 1: To flip and we're back to get money. Or if
Speaker 1: I really want to take Washington. Oh you know, dude,
Speaker 1: it's Thanksgiving. Oh no, I thought I was gonna enjoy
Speaker 1: my Thanksgiving. Now I've got to sweat it. I really
Speaker 1: want to take them in a contest, little on a bit.
Speaker 1: Oh no one more Thanksgiving or more Black Friday game
Speaker 1: to get to the numbers game VASA the sports betting network.
Speaker 1: We get tweets at beating the book. Always appreciate all
Speaker 1: the feedback from everybody, best listeners in the game. Angriest
Speaker 1: guy in Kentucky, Kelly, please do me a favor. Do
Speaker 1: not mention Taylor Swift this morning? Help keep me out
Speaker 1: of the penitentiary. And then he writes about seven more
Speaker 1: tweets about this very subject. I think we just did
Speaker 1: mention Taylor Swift. Israel Negron, He says, any chance you
Speaker 1: can have that Formula one guy back on before this
Speaker 1: weekend's race. He was awful. Yeah, Phil Bobbitt. Phil Bobbitt
Speaker 1: was incredible with his Formula one picks. He was tremendous.
Speaker 1: Good on him. Yeah, Buddhist man, get at us. I
Speaker 1: think he was tracking them all, but it was like,
Speaker 1: I mean, I think five or six dogs that he
Speaker 1: hit it like he was killing it. We're talking anywhere
Speaker 1: from like, but they seriously moved from the time he
Speaker 1: was on to race time.
Speaker 2: Oh well, well some of those some of those would
Speaker 2: have based off of the qualifying stuff. Yes, like he
Speaker 2: hit on some of the qualifiers right that the odds
Speaker 2: would move after that, tom Ft for three.
Speaker 1: Is there any chance Jack tel Rio still has a
Speaker 1: job at the end of a numbers game after that
Speaker 1: little dust up yesterday through in the little politics in
Speaker 1: that tweet. See what he did there? Okay, Web twelve,
Speaker 1: that's sixty six angriest guy Kentucky. Okay, all right, okay.
Speaker 1: This is from This is from Jesse Welch. Wouldn't it
Speaker 1: wouldn't be Guessing Lines Monday without Gil railroading through that
Speaker 1: open This is so true. This is from this is
Speaker 1: also about the Open Buddhist Man. It's truly amazing that
Speaker 1: Gill continues to forget about the Guessing Lines opening with
Speaker 1: the live band sitting right next to him every week.
Speaker 1: True bros. Kevin right, he gets really excited to do
Speaker 1: guessing line. I really am and Kevin Ryan after surviving
Speaker 1: using Detroit multiple teasers. I was holding Vikings supposed two
Speaker 1: and a half and under forty two and a half.
Speaker 1: Thank god, I passed out drunk and missed the failed
Speaker 1: two point Broncos try. My heart can only take so much. Oh,
Speaker 1: we will get to that for sure. By the way,
Speaker 1: the megapod, I am on a Are you ready for this?
Speaker 1: Sixteen and one spread? Run sixteen and one? Now here's
Speaker 1: with Kansas City penning tonight. But here's the thing, So
Speaker 1: the megapot, it's three plays a week for all of us. Me, Todd,
Speaker 1: Will Tom wish to have Will Hill and their guest
Speaker 1: this week was Cleve t Out. It's easier than five. Huh,
Speaker 1: sixteen and one, so just killing it. But when you
Speaker 1: get in the contest and you have to do a
Speaker 1: fourth and a fifth, I drop off a cliff. So
Speaker 1: you know how hard it is to get to five.
Speaker 1: So you know my fourth and fifth wearth this last
Speaker 1: week Carolina and Miami. So like, I only went two
Speaker 1: and two in the contest penning tonight's game.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you had told me the Raiders
Speaker 2: scored thirteen points against the Dolphins. We'll get to that
Speaker 2: I would have laid so much money on that game.
Speaker 1: That is, it's incredible.
Speaker 2: But yes, the I'm sure there's no mentaler's I'm sure
Speaker 2: there's no buyer's remorse, better's remorse going on in my
Speaker 2: brain when I say this, Gil, but the fifth pick,
Speaker 2: I feel like my all time record in that is
Speaker 2: roughly like six and one seventy.
Speaker 1: That's right. Okay, we're way behind on these games. By
Speaker 1: the way, do you have any play I have Kansasitian contest.
Speaker 1: I have Kansasitiyan a bet tonight minus two and a half.
Speaker 1: I think Andy Reid twenty one and three straight up
Speaker 1: after a bye. Everybody knows the stats. Twenty one and
Speaker 1: three straight up after a bye. I think Philadelphia has
Speaker 1: gotten away with some wins against Washington, against Dallas as well.
Speaker 1: I think this is where the magic carpet ride ends
Speaker 1: for Philling, and I think Jalen Hurts is hurt. By
Speaker 1: the way, I'm with you, We're both, We're both. I'm interested.
Speaker 2: I'm really interested to see that man. I mean, he's
Speaker 2: been on my list for a while now. Apparently that
Speaker 2: that sleeve did come off the knee this week, so
Speaker 2: we'll see what he looks like I did lay the
Speaker 2: points for a for a bed. Not huge, but it
Speaker 2: played it as a bet this week and then also
Speaker 2: in the contest where we're what both too and two
Speaker 2: with that pending.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so all right, let's get one more here Thanksgiving
Speaker 1: the late Thanksgiving game forty nine Ers at Seahawks seven
Speaker 1: and three nine Ers after they win yesterday, six and
Speaker 1: four Seahawks after their loss. This is a big game
Speaker 1: in the NFC West. Niners. They win yesterday, they beat
Speaker 1: the the Bucks. After teams trade punt, San Francisco goes
Speaker 1: eighty yards Perdy to McCaffrey from four out, seven to
Speaker 1: nothing Niners three fifty five left. First quarter, Tampa Bay
Speaker 1: first and five of the San Francisco thirty three Mayfield
Speaker 1: hit by Fred Warner fumbles Cleland Cleveland feral covers leads
Speaker 1: to a Jake Moody thirty seven yard field goal, ten
Speaker 1: to nothing Niners. Then Tampa goes seventy five yards Mayfield
Speaker 1: to Evans from one out, ten to seven Niners. Moody
Speaker 1: added a field goal thirteen to seven nine Ers at
Speaker 1: the half. Third quarter after Tampa Bay punt, San Francisco
Speaker 1: goes ninety eight yards and three plays Perty to Ayuk
Speaker 1: for seventy six twenty to seven nine ers. After Tampa punt,
Speaker 1: San Francisco goes seventy nine yards Perty to Kittle from
Speaker 1: three out twenty seven to seven nine ers. The route
Speaker 1: was on or so it seemed one forty two left
Speaker 1: third quarter. Remember the spreads about eleven and a half.
Speaker 1: Here Tampa Bay goes seventy five yards brilliantly play called
Speaker 1: after Talanoa Hufanga left the game. Mayfield to Rakeem Jarrett
Speaker 1: for forty one. He beat Jaiir Brown, who was in
Speaker 1: because Ufango was out. Then a twenty two yard PI
Speaker 1: on Warner Rashad Whiten from one twenty seven to fourteen
Speaker 1: nine ers fourteen eleven to the game San Francisco three
Speaker 1: and out. That followed by Tampa Bay matriculating trying to
Speaker 1: get the cover. Here they convert a fourth and five
Speaker 1: at the San Francisco twenty nine was seven to fifty
Speaker 1: to go. Mayfield to Evans for eleven, but they fail
Speaker 1: on fourth and fourth to twelve with six forty five
Speaker 1: to go, So Niners backers get a reprieve right there
Speaker 1: in Mayfield incomplete in ten reverence, San Francisco three and out,
Speaker 1: though followed by a Devin Tompkins fifty one yard pum
Speaker 1: return for Tampa Bay. They're set up at the San
Speaker 1: Francisco thirteen spread in doubt again third and six of
Speaker 1: the Niners nine. Baker picked off deflection off of Drake
Speaker 1: Greenlaw's helmet in the end zone by Jay ear Brown
Speaker 1: three thirty eight to go. San Francisco backers would survive
Speaker 1: one more last gas by Tampa Bay twenty seven to fourteen.
Speaker 1: Ballgame Party twenty one of twenty five for three thirty three,
Speaker 1: three touchdowns, no picks. He was sacked four times, a
Speaker 1: one fifty eight point three passer rating that is perfect.
Speaker 1: It is only the second Niners quarterback ever to get that,
Speaker 1: the other Joe Montana in nineteen eighty nine. It was
Speaker 1: pretty good. Nineteen eighty nine. Sorry, little public enemy. McCaffrey
Speaker 1: twenty one of seventy eight on the ground twenty one
Speaker 1: four to seventy eight on the ground, five catches for
Speaker 1: twenty five yards in a touchdown. I Uke five for
Speaker 1: one to fifty six in a touchdown. Kittle eight for
Speaker 1: eighty nine and a touchdown A four to twenty to
Speaker 1: two eighty seven total yards advantage for the Niners. They
Speaker 1: were mine. They were excuse me, they were plus two
Speaker 1: and turnovers, but that led to only plus three San
Speaker 1: Francisco net points. But they really may have also prevented
Speaker 1: a key seven for the cover of course, they're at
Speaker 1: the end. I will just say this again about Brock Purty,
Speaker 1: because I haven't in a few weeks really since the Niners,
Speaker 1: you know, went out to that amazing start. I don't
Speaker 1: believe people appreciate Brock party. I hope that this perfect
Speaker 1: game and by the way, his passer rating average for
Speaker 1: the last two games is almost perfect. I hope people
Speaker 1: start to now appreciate him for the player that he is.
Speaker 1: And you know, I had that Offensive Player of the
Speaker 1: Year bet on him. I think I'm betting him MVP
Speaker 1: because nobody else has has really shined in that MVP race,
Speaker 1: you know, with the exception of a guy like Mahomes,
Speaker 1: who can come out and be brilliant again tonight, you're like, well,
Speaker 1: the the MVP. But Purty, to me, he is unappreciated.
Speaker 1: Everybody says, oh, it's because he's surrounded by these great players.
Speaker 1: I don't believe that's the case. Pardon me. I think
Speaker 1: he's really really good at football, and he's so quick
Speaker 1: with his progressions. He sees the field so well as
Speaker 1: so many famous Niners quarterbacks from the past half. And
Speaker 1: we said that earlier in the year a lot about perty.
Speaker 1: I think I want to bring Ethan Strauss on the
Speaker 1: show because he has a pretty rant he wants to do. Also,
Speaker 1: who that plays Seattle? Seattle and the Rams, Oh my god.
Speaker 1: After the Rams three and out, Seattle goes eighty eight
Speaker 1: yards Geno to dk metcalf from eight to seven to nothing,
Speaker 1: Seattle five to twenty left first quarter, Rams, aided by
Speaker 1: sixty nine yards of penalties, get the first and goal
Speaker 1: at the five, and here is Sean mcvay's brilliant play calling.
Speaker 1: Royce Freeman rush on first, Royce Freeman on second rush,
Speaker 1: Royce Freeman on third rush, then fourth and gold with
Speaker 1: two Stafford didn't complete intended for rat Well. Meyers fifty
Speaker 1: four yard field goal made it ten to nothing Seattle,
Speaker 1: followed by the Rams three and that followed by another
Speaker 1: Rams three and out Meyers forty three yard field goal
Speaker 1: thirteen to nothing Seattle. Then the Rams go seventy five yards.
Speaker 1: Cup hurt at this point Stafford to Nakuah first target
Speaker 1: of the game for Buka Nakua, touchdown, thirteen to seven Seattle,
Speaker 1: nine sevens left. That's actually the halftime score. Okay. Third
Speaker 1: quarter trade three and outs. Meyer's fifty two yard field
Speaker 1: goal makes it sixteen to seven Seattle. Teams trade punts twice,
Speaker 1: Gino getting knocked out of the game in the process
Speaker 1: with an elbow injury. Stafford will also get picked by
Speaker 1: Rieke Woollan, though, but Seattle will get stopped on a
Speaker 1: three and out, So Rams then go sixty eight yards
Speaker 1: Darryl Henderson in from one to make it sixteen to
Speaker 1: fourteen Seattle. That featured a horrible pi in the end zone.
Speaker 1: I believe it was Woolan or was it Witherspoon covering Nakua.
Speaker 1: Nikoua just dripped over his own two feet I think.
Speaker 1: Then Lock drew locks in the game. He's picked by
Speaker 1: Darrion Kendrick. So keep in mind the Rams are down
Speaker 1: two at this point and Kendrick makes this makes a
Speaker 1: pick in Seattle territory, but Kendrick docked. Excuse me, it
Speaker 1: wasn't quite in Seattle territory because its downfield. But Kendrick
Speaker 1: docked fifteen yards for talking Schmack to the Seahawks bench.
Speaker 1: So the Rams actually start back at their twenty one.
Speaker 1: It was further down the field that I remember, no problem.
Speaker 1: Nikoua to the rescue thirty two to start the drive,
Speaker 1: Nikua for ten. Six plays later. Nicoua rushes for seven
Speaker 1: and the first three plays later, but then first and
Speaker 1: goal at the seven. This is with them down to
Speaker 1: late in the game for the Rams. Here's what Sean McKay.
Speaker 1: Sean McVay drums up rush on first down, then a
Speaker 1: pass intended for Nakua, then a little hitch pass to
Speaker 1: Henderson that has zero chance of getting in the end zone,
Speaker 1: so they have to settle for Lucas Hafersik twenty two
Speaker 1: yard field goal seventeen sixteen Rams one thirty one to
Speaker 1: go Gino back in no timeouts. They get it to
Speaker 1: thirty eight at their own forty Gino to Metcalf for
Speaker 1: twenty one. Then instead of a spike at the Rams
Speaker 1: thirty nine, Pete Carroll says Sean McVay, hold my beer.
Speaker 1: They choose to run with twenty three seconds left. What
Speaker 1: are you doing? Sharponnay for two, followed by a spike.
Speaker 1: They should have spiked it first and had a pass
Speaker 1: play and spiked it again if they needed to. Myers,
Speaker 1: they settle for a fifty five yard field goal tried.
Speaker 1: Of course, it leaks right. No good. As good as
Speaker 1: Myers is, it's still fifty five yards and the Rams
Speaker 1: win in seventeen to sixteen. They sweep the season series
Speaker 1: versus Seattle. Only four hundred eight total yards of offense
Speaker 1: combined in this game. These coaches are absolutely I know
Speaker 1: people like to crush other coaches. If you watch football
Speaker 1: week to week, every play, Kelly Sean McVay is consistently
Speaker 1: the worst coach in the NFL. I'm serious, you can
Speaker 1: crush other coaches. He's so bad week to week. Oh,
Speaker 1: San Francisco minus six on the riven S seven seven yep,
Speaker 1: up to seven. That was moving, Yeah, that's probably that's
Speaker 1: probably better than six. Both those guys were terrible, But
Speaker 1: mcveay is every week. I know people think it's min
Speaker 1: nicoua Bett. It's not. He's terrible Black Friday game, next
Speaker 1: skill Alexander. It is Kelly Bidlin. I don't want to
Speaker 1: gloss over some of the things we've already talked about.
Speaker 1: This hour, and I realize we got a lot more
Speaker 1: games to get to. But Deron Bland again, I mentioned
Speaker 1: with the Cowboys four pick six is already this year.
Speaker 1: That matches the record. Four other guys have done it.
Speaker 1: Three other guys are four. I think it's four other
Speaker 1: guys have done it. Seven games left to break. That
Speaker 1: should Doron Bland get Defensive Player of the Year consideration.
Speaker 1: Mike Greenberg, let's give credit words due. Mike Greenberg at ESPN,
Speaker 1: he's a Jets fan, was talking about how Drown Bland
Speaker 1: that's more touchdowns than the combined touchdowns of Jets wide
Speaker 1: receivers this year four to three. What are some of
Speaker 1: the other names of wide receivers who don't have four
Speaker 1: touchdowns throughout the league?
Speaker 2: Of other names DK Metcalf, T Higgins, Jalen Waddle, Christian Kirk,
Speaker 2: Michael Pittman, Junior, Chris Olave just a few of those
Speaker 2: that he has more touchdowns then, and then of course
Speaker 2: again the entire Jets wide receiving core combined.
Speaker 1: It's amazing and that that is two for Wilson and
Speaker 1: one for Lazard. That that's it on that team. That
Speaker 1: is it. He is down to seventy five to one
Speaker 1: to win seventy five, I say down and not like
Speaker 1: I knew where he was two days ago, honestly? Is that?
Speaker 1: I mean like, if he gets one more, no, no,
Speaker 1: I think you gotta think of it. If he gets
Speaker 1: two more, two more, If he gets two more, I
Speaker 1: thought you had something. Then is he so he then
Speaker 1: he's not just one above the record like he is due.
Speaker 1: He will have shattered it at that point. Kind of
Speaker 1: he would have kind of shattered it at that point.
Speaker 1: We get tweets a badio. You have to be a
Speaker 1: part of the conversation. Then, of course he does NC
Speaker 1: one ninety five. Gambler at MX Square Better says, oh, man,
Speaker 1: can't wait for that Patriots Giants game. Gil, it'll be
Speaker 1: a nail bier with a final fourteen to ten. I
Speaker 1: mean DeVito versus Joan? Who does Jones? Who doesn't get
Speaker 1: excited for that? Oh God, what's that line gonna be?
Speaker 1: Zero one? TK one? Tom kay? First we betting in
Speaker 1: Florida observations pretty consistent. Ten cent lines don't want to
Speaker 1: cross key numbers and get middled. Instead employ heavy juice,
Speaker 1: decent prop selection, but not like big multi state operations.
Speaker 1: Oh thank you, for that review. That was pretty thorough.
Speaker 1: That was pretty good. I know a guy who won
Speaker 1: six hundred thousand dollars betting blackjack in Florida. Oh really
Speaker 1: over the weekend getting murdered by people Jason H eleven,
Speaker 1: don't do it, Gilly, don't bet the Commanders. That would
Speaker 1: absolutely ruin your Thanksgiving. Watching cowboys jump into the Sala
Speaker 1: Salvation army bin while inflatable, raft Ron looks on dumbfounded.
Speaker 1: You're right, I don't know that. I can't even though
Speaker 1: I think that line is high. Is a is a
Speaker 1: contest which I'm kind of in, so I don't want
Speaker 1: to mess with it. Gen O'Connor. Short weekend, so no firings.
Speaker 1: But what's the best odds? Ron rivera next head coach.
Speaker 1: Acts can't imagine he gets to spend Thanksgiving thankful he's employed.
Speaker 1: They're so bad if you if your record against the
Speaker 1: Dayble Giants is three to zero to one these last
Speaker 1: two seasons, and yes I'm including last year because the
Speaker 1: Giants were smoking mirrors and the fact that day boll
Speaker 1: one Coach of the Year. I'll go to my grave
Speaker 1: saying was complete malarchy to use someone else's term. But
Speaker 1: the fact that the fact that the Giants sweep you
Speaker 1: is just reason enough. Sky high. What's Birdie's itcherating this year?
Speaker 1: I wonder not as bad as last year. Last year
Speaker 1: he was their itch, by the ways, our megapod word
Speaker 1: for interceptions that should have happened. Sumner Hutches a great
Speaker 1: rundown on the Rams game. Rams money line never in doubt.
Speaker 1: And Larry Fresh who just stopped by and said hello.
Speaker 1: He said, had to stop by and say hi, but
Speaker 1: I forgot to say thank you for all the content
Speaker 1: and laughs. Oh man, thank you so much. Please everybody
Speaker 1: come by when you get a chance. Here to the
Speaker 1: Lovely Bar Canada at the d here in downtown Vegas.
Speaker 1: All right, Black Friday game? What do we got? Dolphins
Speaker 1: at the Jets seven and three Dolphins the four and
Speaker 1: six Jets as the Aaron Rodgers coming back? You know
Speaker 1: buzz died yet or are people still betting this? Yes?
Speaker 1: No all, Aaron Rodgers keeps saying this coming back, no
Speaker 1: matter what, now, no matter what. I don't know. I
Speaker 1: think he still put the the the preface on it
Speaker 1: that they have to be in play. Well, they're not
Speaker 1: gonna be in They're not gonna be Miami beats the Raiders,
Speaker 1: but they don't cover much of the chagrin of many.
Speaker 1: After a Vegas punt to start the game, third play
Speaker 1: for Miami two a rushes forward hit by Luke Masterson,
Speaker 1: fumbles recovered by Marcus Epps on review, leads to Carlson
Speaker 1: thirty four yard field goal. That's Daniel Carlson in this case,
Speaker 1: three to nothing Las Vegas. Miami then goes seventy five
Speaker 1: yards two out of Tyreek Reek from thirty eight touchdown,
Speaker 1: seven to three Miami two oh three left in the
Speaker 1: first quarter. At this point, you're like, Okay, here comes Miami.
Speaker 1: They're gonna roll them. They're bullies, right, not tonight, not
Speaker 1: today in this game. Vegas comes right back seventy five
Speaker 1: yards O'Connell to DeVante swing for forty six, ten to
Speaker 1: seven Las Vegas. One second left in the first quarter.
Speaker 1: Miami fourth and one at the Vegas three two out
Speaker 1: of Tyreek. They lose four yards. That's when you kind
Speaker 1: of knew. Nine oh eight left in the second quarter.
Speaker 1: After a Las Vegas three and out Reekin and eighth
Speaker 1: Chane out with injuries, Miami reeks was temporary. Miami goes
Speaker 1: sixty three yards two at a Salvon Ahmed from eleven
Speaker 1: out fourteen to ten Miami, two twenty eight left. Second quarter.
Speaker 1: After a Las Vegas punt one oh three left in
Speaker 1: the half, two out of Julian Hill hit by Divine
Speaker 1: Diablo fumbles, Diablo recovers the Miami thirty two with fifty
Speaker 1: eight seconds left that led to a Carlson forty seven
Speaker 1: yard field goal fourteen to thirteen Miami. Miami just could
Speaker 1: not get away from the Raiders on the scoreboard third
Speaker 1: quarter first play the half to a pick deep by
Speaker 1: Isaiah Poulamau Las Vegas, though with a three and out
Speaker 1: after that, Sanders did get a forty one yard field
Speaker 1: goal seventeen to thirteen Miami five twenty six left in
Speaker 1: the third quarter, and then after a Las Vegas three
Speaker 1: and out, Sanders a fifty one yard field goal to
Speaker 1: make it twenty to thirteen Miami with twenty five seconds
Speaker 1: left in the third quarter. And you're like, okay, one
Speaker 1: more score, Miami's gonna cover this one more touchdown. The
Speaker 1: team's trade punts, Las Vegas matriculates, but fourth and three
Speaker 1: at the Miami thirty one. O'Connell then incomplete deep so
Speaker 1: Miami gets the ball back and you're like, they're gonna
Speaker 1: do it, but they have a three and out. Wait
Speaker 1: what happened to this team? The injuries? No, not the injuries,
Speaker 1: they just weren't getting it. They give Las Vegas some credit.
Speaker 1: Fourth and six for Las Vegas at the Miami twenty four.
Speaker 1: They're trying to tie the game. Forget the good cover.
Speaker 1: O'Connell picked at point blank range, point blank range by
Speaker 1: Jalen Phillips. One more Miami punt. Las Vegas gets it again.
Speaker 1: They get it to second and tent at the Miami
Speaker 1: thirty nine, with thirty two seconds to go, O'Connell picked
Speaker 1: in the end zone by Jalen Ramsey. Ball game twenty
Speaker 1: to thirteen Dolphins. They win, but once again do not cover.
Speaker 1: Two A twenty eight for thirty nine for three twenty five,
Speaker 1: two touchdowns, one pick. He was sacked once, he did
Speaker 1: lose a fumble. Tyreek eleven targets, ten catches for one
Speaker 1: forty six and a touchdown. I mean, carlas if this
Speaker 1: dude is the real MVP, incredible, he is the real MVP. Yes,
Speaker 1: we'll disclosure and I have an MVP ticker his hand
Speaker 1: right left the gate left the game of hand. That's
Speaker 1: happened a couple of times this year where he's left
Speaker 1: and come back for said it would be fine. After
Speaker 1: the game, he was just upset it was gonna get
Speaker 1: into his video game time this week. That dude is
Speaker 1: gonna get two thousand yards. He is four twenty two
Speaker 1: to two ninety six total yards advantage for the Dolphins
Speaker 1: twenty one to twelve. And first, who are they playing?
Speaker 1: The Jets? Who Black Friday? The Jets Robert Salad talking
Speaker 1: about benching Zach Wilson. Now, let's get to this game
Speaker 1: they get They just destroyed by Buffalo. Opening kickoff Xavier
Speaker 1: Gibson hit fumbles recovered by Quintin Morris. Jets do force
Speaker 1: the three and out because the Bills go backwards after
Speaker 1: Quentin Williams sack of Allen but Bass forty eight yard
Speaker 1: field goal, three to nothing, Buffalo after a Jets punt,
Speaker 1: Bass thirty yardfield goal, six to nothing. After another Jets punt,
Speaker 1: Bass thirty three yardfield goal, nine to nothing. After a
Speaker 1: Jets three and out Buffalo punt, Wilson second attended his
Speaker 1: own twenty seven picked by Rasoul Douglas. Buffalo set up
Speaker 1: at the Jets twenty four to five plays Allen to
Speaker 1: James Cook from five out, sixteen to nothing Buffalo. The
Speaker 1: route was on Jets looks like a three and out
Speaker 1: fourth and two at their own twenty four two minutes
Speaker 1: left in the half, but a fake Thomas Moore Stett
Speaker 1: to Brandon Eckles for eighteen, then fourth and two at
Speaker 1: the fifty. Wilson a breeze for fifteen on a play
Speaker 1: where the Bills medical staff went to tend to Taron
Speaker 1: Johnson but quickly realized Taylor Rapp needed to mediate attention
Speaker 1: taking away in an ambulance. Boy, oh boy, the memories
Speaker 1: of that in Buffalo. So I mean, I mean Rogers
Speaker 1: before then, but obviously Deamorrow Hamlin last year. It's just incredible.
Speaker 1: Jets would eventually score on a Wilson not comparing the two,
Speaker 1: by the way, but just that field has or that
Speaker 1: stadium has had a lot of bad things happen there.
Speaker 1: Jets would eventually score on a Wilson to haul nine
Speaker 1: yard touchdown pass two point conversion field sixteen to six
Speaker 1: Jets at the half, excuse me, Sixney sixth Buffalo at
Speaker 1: the half. Third quarter, Buffalo go seventy five yards Alan
Speaker 1: to Tye Johnson from twenty eight out on a fourth
Speaker 1: and one, twenty two to six. Buffalo Bass misses the
Speaker 1: pat after a Jets punt Alan to Khalil should care
Speaker 1: for eighty one twenty nine to six. Six twenty nine
Speaker 1: left third quarter, the competitive portion of the ball game
Speaker 1: was over. Buffalo would win it thirty two to six.
Speaker 1: Wilson and Zach that is seven for fifteen. He completed
Speaker 1: seven forward passes for eighty one yards, one touchdown, one
Speaker 1: pick you Zack five times. Tim Boyle would come in
Speaker 1: late and throw a pick as well. Buffalo had a
Speaker 1: three ninety three to one to fifty five total yards advantage.
Speaker 1: They were plus three in turnovers. The Jets had four,
Speaker 1: Buffalo had one. That led to plus ten net Buffalo points.
Speaker 1: This is Miami at the Jets. I'll say Miami minus six.
Speaker 1: We do not know apparently who the Jets quarterback will be,
Speaker 1: not that it matters. Miami minus six on the road
Speaker 1: opened seven, most places up to eight. Ooh, I'm low.
Speaker 2: Our man Jonathan right here at the Circus Sportsbook Deska.
Speaker 2: He walked into the d this morning. He said, no,
Speaker 2: that's way too low. We're bringing it up to nine
Speaker 2: here at Circa. So Circus posted nine on this game.
Speaker 1: No respect for the Jets d because they're I mean,
Speaker 1: the Jets have been the same thing every week all year, right,
Speaker 1: solid D that is completely torpedoed by their inept offense
Speaker 1: and the fact that the Jets would be so oh
Speaker 1: loyal to Zach Wilson this entire time, and now that
Speaker 1: they're four and six and basically Donzo. I get it,
Speaker 1: they're not completely done so but four and six, You've
Speaker 1: let this fester for so long and now you're going
Speaker 1: to make a change at quarterback. What sense does any
Speaker 1: of this take. I can't defend it, can't defend it.
Speaker 2: I mean you had, you had all the opportunities in
Speaker 2: the world to go out and try and try to
Speaker 2: bring in something someone, But just.
Speaker 1: Like with Washington, do I want to bet the Jets
Speaker 1: catching on? This is this is horrible. I was hoping
Speaker 1: that with the contest, I could like leisurely sit through
Speaker 1: a Thanksgiving contest, pick and a bet and a Friday. Instead,
Speaker 1: you're telling me no, to do that, I would have
Speaker 1: to take the Commanders and the Jets. Now, I don't
Speaker 1: want to do that. That's I don't want to ruin
Speaker 1: my week. So we've gotten to that point where the
Speaker 1: values on the suckitude wonderful whole much more to get
Speaker 1: to guessing lines and i'mbers told the story and they
Speaker 1: always done. It's Wando's idiots who believe in analytics. This
Speaker 1: is a numbers game with Gil Alexander our number two
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Speaker 1: Happy Thanksgiving, everybody, It's Skill Alexander, It's Kelly Bidlin. Kelly
Speaker 1: allowed for a Happy Thanksgiving to be uttered for the
Speaker 1: first time this morning. We talked it out Monday through Friday.
Speaker 1: We're allowed to say after Thanksgiving, After Thanksgiving, to you
Speaker 1: and yours. If you're traveling, safe travels, be safe.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: If you're navigating either the roads or the airports, good god.
Speaker 1: I hated navigating airports this week. Yeah, God, bless you
Speaker 1: if you're doing that. Getting back to loved ones, playing
Speaker 1: strains and Automobiles. By the way, one of the more
Speaker 1: underrated movies of my childhood is a great movie. That's
Speaker 1: a great one. Steve Martin and John Candy Uh, we
Speaker 1: have a lot to get to here. This is that
Speaker 1: the first hour set the record in guessing lines history.
Speaker 1: Do you know for what genuous amount of games we've
Speaker 1: ever gotten, which means the second hour will also set
Speaker 1: a record. That's right, not before because we don't have
Speaker 1: any buys this week, right, we don't have any buys. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so this will but we got to we literally described
Speaker 1: eight different games there, so this should go. Quicker and
Speaker 1: Tom Stephan we get tweets at beating the book, Tom
Speaker 1: Stephan will kickers now regularly hit fifty plus yardfield goals.
Speaker 1: Talking about Jason Myers with the Seahawks, it's far from
Speaker 1: the chip shot coaches seem to think it is based
Speaker 1: on their play calling and key moments of the game.
Speaker 1: You see it every week. I'm with you, Tom, absolutely,
Speaker 1: one hundred percent. That's what I said at the end
Speaker 1: of that recap. I'm like, you know, Jason Myers is
Speaker 1: a great kicker. He's a great kicker, but you can't
Speaker 1: count on fifty five outdoors.
Speaker 2: And this has been like I've noticed this probably five
Speaker 2: times this year too, where they're playing endo game situations
Speaker 2: you're like, you could really use like five or ten
Speaker 2: more yards here, like what are you doing?
Speaker 1: And I know we had to get commercial, so I
Speaker 1: said it quickly. Sean McVay is the worst coach week
Speaker 1: after week for the Rams. Now talking about the Rams
Speaker 1: now people love, they love crushing brand and Staley, Brandon say,
Speaker 1: because they do that whole like locker room, give him
Speaker 1: a noogie thing in the locker. People like to treat
Speaker 1: a nerd like Brandon Staley like that or any other
Speaker 1: because Rivera's terrible. There's a lot of bad coaches, but
Speaker 1: if you watch football on a week to week basis,
Speaker 1: no one does more to undermine his team than Sean
Speaker 1: McVay does. Play calling, the constant running on first down
Speaker 1: and second and third like it's just it's horrible. And
Speaker 1: then Pete Carroll did something so bad that it made
Speaker 1: you forget all about it.
Speaker 2: It really did kind of Brandon Staley's back real quick
Speaker 2: for a second. Yeah, I actually I actually have a
Speaker 2: little respect for I know he was flipping out post
Speaker 2: game yesterday because people keep asking him about taking away
Speaker 2: the play calling.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm okay with?
Speaker 2: Brandon Staley is ELP just as aware as the rest
Speaker 2: of us that he is probably on the hot seed
Speaker 2: or the hottest seed of all time. I am very
Speaker 2: okay if you're like, hey, look, if I'm gonna get fired,
Speaker 2: I'm going down doing it my way.
Speaker 1: I'm very okay with that age. He's also not Quentin
Speaker 1: Johnson Johnston dropping that pass. He's also not Keenan Allen
Speaker 1: dropping a touchdown pass. He's also not Austin Eckler fumbling
Speaker 1: at the two. Mike Stacks. The feeling of possibly losing
Speaker 1: your last survivor entry is so gut wrenching. It seems
Speaker 1: like there's no good way to lose nine more weeks
Speaker 1: of stress coming up. Good luck to you, Mike Stacks
Speaker 1: and Grayson ROSSI. Of course, Kelly would say he needs
Speaker 1: to go to above the record talking about Deron Bland.
Speaker 1: Remember Michi coming Mechi? He said, Mechi, but it's Mechi
Speaker 1: coming back from cancer and only catching seven pazzes wasn't enough.
Speaker 1: You really got to impress me. Okay, all right, we
Speaker 1: got games to get to. What do we got? Were
Speaker 1: at Falcons? We are on the Sunday Early Window, Saints
Speaker 1: at Falcons NFC South Clash. We're gonna get ritter A,
Speaker 1: were gonna get Heineke here for the Falcons. Do we
Speaker 1: know sounds like Ritter? Right, it sounds like Ritter. Both
Speaker 1: teams coming off of bye five and five Saints four
Speaker 1: and six Atlanta. Nothing to say about either game because
Speaker 1: there wasn't one for either. I will say the Saints
Speaker 1: as two and a half point road favorites, not quite three.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think that was official from the team,
Speaker 2: but that wasn't ESPN report that they will be going
Speaker 2: back to Ritter.
Speaker 1: Uh, what was your guest? Two and a half Saints
Speaker 1: on the road at minus two, Falcons one point favorite
Speaker 1: currently at DraftKings. Oh wow, foor that Falcons loved me
Speaker 1: and you haven't understood all season? Yeah again though, like
Speaker 1: am I recently?
Speaker 2: This even took money from this morning when I punched
Speaker 2: it in. So this was Saints coming my way now
Speaker 2: a few a few hours ago. Now it's Falcons one.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, so it's let's go from drifting from me?
Speaker 2: Does this make me want to take the Saints?
Speaker 1: I would absolutely tease up the Saints. It's a one
Speaker 1: and a half.
Speaker 2: I will Saints and the teaser for sure this week,
Speaker 2: for sure, I've already got that.
Speaker 1: Really, I want to make it as a bet or
Speaker 1: as a contest pick. And yes, I'm concerned about contest
Speaker 1: because everyone counts big now with thirty six including tonight's
Speaker 1: game left, uh okay, file Washington, the Jets, and the
Speaker 1: Saints in all the same category. I know, I know
Speaker 1: that Saints fans will be like, how can you put
Speaker 1: us with I'm not saying just for this for racing
Speaker 1: to bet them next Steelers a Bengals, all right, the
Speaker 1: six and four Steelers at the five and five Bengels.
Speaker 1: Bengals with extra week coming off the Thursday night defeat
Speaker 1: at the hands of the Ravens, and of course, no
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow, It's gonna be Jake Brand. Pittsburgh yesterday loses
Speaker 1: to the Browns thirteen to ten after a Cleveland punt
Speaker 1: and a Pittsburgh three and out. Cleveland seven play fifty
Speaker 1: yard drive Jerome fod In from one, seven to nothing Cleveland.
Speaker 1: And you figured Cleveland's gonna roll, At least I did,
Speaker 1: because I had Cleveland four thirty five left first quarter.
Speaker 1: Hopkins would add a chip shot twenty five yard field
Speaker 1: goal before the end of the half. Ten to nothing
Speaker 1: Cleveland at the break, they're controlling the football game, and
Speaker 1: then by the way Pittsburgh in the first half, punt, punt, punts, punt,
Speaker 1: end of half. Is that good? Great offense? Picket in
Speaker 1: the first half was five of eight for thirty four yards,
Speaker 1: no touchdown, no picks. He was sacked twice. Steelers were
Speaker 1: out first down thirteen to four, and they were out
Speaker 1: gained in total yards one sixty three to sixty four.
Speaker 1: But then the third quarter comes around, second play of
Speaker 1: the half Jalen Warren for seventy four, ten to seven Cleveland,
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, just like that, Oh no,
Speaker 1: this you gotta be kidding me, And in my head,
Speaker 1: I'm like Mike Tomlin's got Cleveland right where he won.
Speaker 1: This cannot happen. Cleveland converts a fourth and one, but
Speaker 1: they have to punt on the next strive. Pittsburgh then
Speaker 1: three and out, Cleveland three and out. Pittsburgh converts a
Speaker 1: fourth and one at their own twenty nine, but they punt.
Speaker 1: Then third and fifteen for Cleveland at the Pittsburgh thirty six,
Speaker 1: one thirty five left. In the third quarter, dtr picked
Speaker 1: off deflection by Shannon Sullivan, but another Pittsburgh three and
Speaker 1: out followed by a twenty yard punt by Presley Harvin,
Speaker 1: I'm like, all right, this is where Cleveland's gonna take advantage.
Speaker 1: But nope, Cleveland three and out ten the third quarter,
Speaker 1: Oh god, ten to seven. Still. Pittsburgh then matriculates Boswell
Speaker 1: twenty eight yardfield goal. It's ten to ten, what's seven
Speaker 1: forty to go? I'm a Cleveland backer, I'm like, this
Speaker 1: cannot be happening. Pittsburgh cannot be seven and three after this,
Speaker 1: cannot lose this. Then, at Cleveland three and out, Corey
Speaker 1: Bork has twenty five yard punt for the Browns. Pittsburgh
Speaker 1: starts at their own forty eight with five forty seven
Speaker 1: to go in a tie game, but they're forced to
Speaker 1: punt nonetheless. Oh thank goodness for Cleveland backers. Cleveland then
Speaker 1: has to punt. Pittsburgh gets it back with one forty
Speaker 1: two to go at their own thirty three and out
Speaker 1: though zero yards gain. Cleveland then gets it back at
Speaker 1: their own thirty five with one eighteen to go, and
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, Dorian Thompson Robinson wakes up dtr
Speaker 1: to Elijah Moore for fifteen, to Kareem Hunt for five,
Speaker 1: to Amari Cooper for eight. They're at the Pittsburgh thirty
Speaker 1: seven with forty eight seconds to go to David Najoku
Speaker 1: for eleven Kareem Hunt in a two yard game. Pittsburgh's
Speaker 1: d causes Cleveland offensive lineman to react five more yards
Speaker 1: Hunt for two, and two plays later Dustin Hopkins thirty
Speaker 1: four yard field goal good Brown's win at thirteen ten
Speaker 1: Who that was a disgusting football game. Pick at fifteen
Speaker 1: for twenty eight for one oh six, no touchdowns, no PIXI,
Speaker 1: but sack three times Jalen Warren nine for one twenty nine.
Speaker 1: Remember seventy four on that one runy the touchdown. Only
Speaker 1: five hundred and eight total yards of offense in the game,
Speaker 1: but notably Kelly Pittsburgh out gained two fifty nine to
Speaker 1: two forty nine, keeping their STA streak intact of being
Speaker 1: outgained in all ten other football games this year. They're
Speaker 1: at the Bengals Jake Browning not Joe Burrow. I will, yeah,
Speaker 1: this one is easy to guess, right because this will
Speaker 1: be exactly like the Browns not having Deshaun Watson. This
Speaker 1: is the Bengals not having Joe Burrow. I know that
Speaker 1: more or less to be the home team favored by
Speaker 1: a point. Correct, we are Steelers won Steelers one. The
Speaker 1: Steelers are favored by a point.
Speaker 2: Okay, but even that one moved there you go. You
Speaker 2: had it dead on as of two hours ago. But
Speaker 2: it's May jumped the fence over to the Steelers, so
Speaker 2: they're taking money.
Speaker 1: Let's do one more, all right? Moving on Panthers at Titans.
Speaker 1: Panthers already talked about the one to nine Panthers. Now
Speaker 1: Bryce Young sixteen of twenty nine for one to twenty
Speaker 1: three and the loss of the Cowboys one touchdown, one pick,
Speaker 1: sacks seven times, and he lost to fumble. They were
Speaker 1: held to thirteen first downs, one hundred eighty seven total
Speaker 1: yards and minus two in turnovers, led to plus ten
Speaker 1: Dallas net points. Tennessee is three and seven. They're the
Speaker 1: home team here against the Panthers. They lose to Jacksonville badly.
Speaker 1: After the team's traded punts. Levis second and ten at
Speaker 1: the Jacksonville thirty eight seven to forty nine left first quarter,
Speaker 1: he fumbled foyesade O Luwa Kwan, who covers leads to
Speaker 1: a fifty seven yard Jacksonville I've Trevor to Ridley three
Speaker 1: yard touchdown pass seven and nothing Jacksonville after a fourteen
Speaker 1: after a fourteen play thirty four yard Tennessee drive. That's right,
Speaker 1: fourteen plays thirty four yards that ended with a punt
Speaker 1: Brandon McManus thirty yard field will ten to nothing Jacksonville.
Speaker 1: It'd be thirteen to nothing at halftime after a twenty
Speaker 1: five yard er from McManus. Levis was six of ten
Speaker 1: for thirty eight in the first half. Tennessee only had
Speaker 1: eighty two total yards and only five first downs. Third
Speaker 1: quarter jackson Jacksonville converted a fourth and four at the
Speaker 1: Tennessee forty Trevor to Ernest Johnson from Atlanta Studios for
Speaker 1: thirty four. Two plays later, Lawrence in from nine twenty
Speaker 1: to nothing Jacksonville, no need to go on. They'd go
Speaker 1: up twenty seven and nothing. Later in the third quarter
Speaker 1: on a Lawrence to Ridley pass. Tennessee would finally score
Speaker 1: a little trigger ration Levis to Hopkins from forty three
Speaker 1: to twenty seven to seven. Jacksonville would answer Lawrence in
Speaker 1: from five thirty four to seven. Thirty four to fourteen
Speaker 1: was the final. Levis ended up thirteen of seventeen for
Speaker 1: one fifty eight, two touchdowns, no picks. He was sacked twice. Henry,
Speaker 1: Derrick Henry, the aging Derrick Henry, it seems now ten
Speaker 1: for thirty eight. Tennessee was outgained by Jacksonville three nine
Speaker 1: to two thirty five, three eighty nine to two thirty five.
Speaker 1: They were doubled up in first downs twenty four to twelve.
Speaker 1: They were minus two in turnovers. That led to plus
Speaker 1: fourteen net Jacksonville points. Carolina at Tennessee, I guess the Titans.
Speaker 1: The three and seven Titans are favored by four. You
Speaker 1: are dead on, my friend, by four exactly. They're more
Speaker 1: if they gotta be playing Carolina. If the Tennessee Titans
Speaker 1: are more than a field goal favorite, let's do one
Speaker 1: more real quick Bucks at Colts Bucks. We already talked about.
Speaker 1: They talked about. They lost the Niners. Mayfield was twenty
Speaker 1: nine to forty five in that game for two forty six,
Speaker 1: one touchdown, one pick. He was sacked four times, and
Speaker 1: he lost to fumble. They were at a four twenty
Speaker 1: to two eighty seven total yards disadvantage. They were minus
Speaker 1: two in turnovers, as we said, but that only led
Speaker 1: to plus three San Francisco net points. But the other
Speaker 1: one prevented the key seven for the cover, and then
Speaker 1: there's Indianapols. Indianapolis coming off of by the five and
Speaker 1: five Colts. I will say the Colts are three point
Speaker 1: favorites in this game. Colts are one and a half
Speaker 1: point favorites. One and a half. Okay, that might be
Speaker 1: my first play of the week. I wonder how much
Speaker 1: this has to do with I believe the Tampa Bay
Speaker 1: Buccaneers are one of your best cover teams in the NFL.
Speaker 1: I think the Colts are going to I know backing
Speaker 1: Gardner Minshew is not fun, but I think coming off
Speaker 1: a bye, Jonathan Taylor will be that much more ready
Speaker 1: to be acclimated to all this. I think he's been
Speaker 1: ramp up before the bye. I think now he's full strength.
Speaker 1: I think the Colts. I feel much better about the
Speaker 1: Colts that I did about any quote unquote value on
Speaker 1: Washington or the Jets or the Saints. Let's put it
Speaker 1: that way. Colts might be one of my plays bucks
Speaker 1: seven and three against the spread this year. That doesn't
Speaker 1: scare me more to come more games to get to
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Speaker 1: It's Gill Alexander, It's Kelly Bidlin guessing lines for week
Speaker 1: twelve and the National Football League. We get tweets at
Speaker 1: beating the book, Eric Vigio over there at Caesar's. He says,
Speaker 1: my get off the lawn tweet. You guys are super
Speaker 1: pros with all the music back there, he goes, also
Speaker 1: thanks Gil forgetting public enemies fight the power stuck in
Speaker 1: my head for the rest of the day. You're quite welcome.
Speaker 1: I knew someone would catch on. Richard Palmer caught onto
Speaker 1: to nineteen eighty nine. Eric, we got to talk about
Speaker 1: the Caesars app. We got to talk about that. Let's
Speaker 1: do launch. Steven Vegas always shop around. I saw in
Speaker 1: Vegas Bland, Deron Bland defensive player of the year from
Speaker 1: sixty to one to one hundred to one, and then
Speaker 1: Purdy from twelve to Oh the range I see from
Speaker 1: twelve to one to eighteen to one. Happy betting fellas.
Speaker 1: Thank you for that. Stephen Vegas definitely shop around for
Speaker 1: all these. Nash last name Nash. I'll be on the
Speaker 1: commodes with you. I don't know if I'm going to
Speaker 1: be man, not because I like the number, but simply
Speaker 1: so I can excuse myself from the dinner table as
Speaker 1: the adult beverages are flowing and topics like politics get
Speaker 1: brought up. Commodes plus eleven sweat better greater than drunk
Speaker 1: family political talks. He says, Oh, Glenn Frommell, thank you
Speaker 1: for the correction. He says, the Hamlin injury was a
Speaker 1: road game in Sincy yesterday. The Bills were home. That
Speaker 1: is correct. I did make that error. Thank you for that.
Speaker 1: And Michael Harrison gil I feel for you had woofed
Speaker 1: in Survivor yesterday, hands down the most frustrating three hours
Speaker 1: of my life. Worst part was still having a chance
Speaker 1: at the end, only to have it blown up out
Speaker 1: of sheer ineptitude. Organization is a disaster. Not fair to
Speaker 1: the fans, But you know what, Daniel Snyder's gone, and
Speaker 1: so everything this year is gravy. I know that's like
Speaker 1: way simplistic and it doesn't make, you know, make a
Speaker 1: four and seven season any better, but it's still better
Speaker 1: than we were three hundred and sixty five days ago.
Speaker 1: Because of that, they got to get rid of the
Speaker 1: coaching staff, they got to change the name of the team.
Speaker 1: But Sam Howell's gonna be fine. They got a quarterback.
Speaker 1: He just needs an offensive line. They got a draft
Speaker 1: offensive lineman. We'll do more tweets. We got games to
Speaker 1: get to. What do we get? Patriots at Giants? Maybe
Speaker 1: I should have kept reading tweets the two and eight
Speaker 1: Patriots at the three and eight Giants, New England coming
Speaker 1: off of bye Giants in that win over the commodes,
Speaker 1: Tommy DeVito eighteen for twenty six for two forty six,
Speaker 1: three touchdown passes, no picks, and he was sacked nine
Speaker 1: times and they won thirty one and nineteen over Washington.
Speaker 1: Remember that nine sack thing. Remember that playoff game where
Speaker 1: the number one seed Tennessee Titans went up against Joe
Speaker 1: Burrow and the Bengals and they sacked Burrow nine times
Speaker 1: and the Bengals and the Bengals still managed to win
Speaker 1: that playoff game. DeVito, we talked about how Deron Bland
Speaker 1: has more touchdowns than like the entire Jets wide receiving corps,
Speaker 1: and more than each of those receivers around the league.
Speaker 1: You mentioned Tommy DeVito has more touchdown passes six than
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones and to Rod Taylor combined. That's an awesome
Speaker 1: one too. Six to four, that's a great one. Giants
Speaker 1: were out game by Washington. We said four h three
Speaker 1: to two ninety two, twenty eight to thirteen in first,
Speaker 1: but they were plus six and turnovers that led to
Speaker 1: plus twenty four net Giants points. You ain't losing when
Speaker 1: you're plus six, and they almost did well. They would
Speaker 1: have it plus five anyway. I will say the Patriots
Speaker 1: minus one and a half. I'll split the difference between
Speaker 1: pick them and three because between two crappy teams that
Speaker 1: that line makes sense right house.
Speaker 2: This, Oh my god, hatres minus three and a half
Speaker 2: painted everywhere.
Speaker 1: This is the one I teased you before the show.
Speaker 1: I'm going to puke while I make this bet. I'm
Speaker 1: going to puke while I'm watching this game.
Speaker 2: Probably, but I think I have to make a bet
Speaker 2: on the New York Football Giants.
Speaker 1: Here is my review of guessing line so far this morning.
Speaker 1: This week is pure living hell, yes, because you are forced.
Speaker 1: The value is clearly on a bevy of crap teams
Speaker 1: and do you want to live through this? Washington and
Speaker 1: the Jets and the Giants three like listen, I think
Speaker 1: the Giants suck, but the Patriots three and a half
Speaker 1: point road favorite, road favorites.
Speaker 2: So we're really saying if New England was at home,
Speaker 2: they'd be laying like nine points to this Giants team.
Speaker 1: In that area. This is what said. This week is
Speaker 1: going to separate the men talking about it is going
Speaker 1: to separate the men from the boys. I hate, I
Speaker 1: hate it, gilt, but I'm gonna bet. I hate I'm
Speaker 1: thinking about it through circum millions, where again, if the
Speaker 1: Chiefs win tonight, I put in another three and two.
Speaker 1: I can still cash but and there's only and there
Speaker 1: will only be thirty five games left after tonight, every
Speaker 1: one of which is huge. Yep. But calling it my
Speaker 1: race to foot? But am I gonna have like a
Speaker 1: Commodes Jets, Giants colts like, oh this is gonna be
Speaker 1: the worst. That's what you were. You're in the boat.
Speaker 1: I was sitting last week. It is so bad.
Speaker 2: It was like, if I'm going down, I'm going down
Speaker 2: with good teams. I'm sick of playing these bad Yeah.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I can do this. All right,
Speaker 1: that's it.
Speaker 2: I quit, like I got I'm betting that. I'm betting
Speaker 2: Giants plus three and a half. I'm betting it right
Speaker 2: now after the show. Yeah, that's right now. Ike, I
Speaker 2: don't get that. I don't think I can. It's the
Speaker 2: value for sure. I'm not laying through the.
Speaker 1: Half, all right? What's next? Jaggs at Texans seven and three,
Speaker 1: Jacksonville Jaguars again. They they crushed Tennessee at Houston, the
Speaker 1: Houston Texans. We haven't gotten to that game. So Jacksonville
Speaker 1: and that win over the uh over the Titans. Lawrence
Speaker 1: was twenty four for thirty two for two sixty two
Speaker 1: two touchdowns, no picks. He was sacked once five for
Speaker 1: seventeen on the ground, two touchdowns with his feet. Ridley
Speaker 1: Calvin Ridley back from that parlay seven for one oh three,
Speaker 1: two touchdowns. They outgained Tennessee three eighty nine to two
Speaker 1: thirty five, doubled them up in first there were plus
Speaker 1: two and turnovers that led directly to plus fourteen net
Speaker 1: Jacksonville points. And then there's Houston. We haven't talked about
Speaker 1: this game. Houston beats the Cardinals twenty one to sixteen.
Speaker 1: If you had the over in this game, oh man,
Speaker 1: that would suck. How did not go over? Third play
Speaker 1: of the game, second and one at the Houston forty eight,
Speaker 1: Kyler to Rondale More deep touchdown, seven to nothing Arizona.
Speaker 1: Houston first drive four two at the Arizona fifteen, Mike
Speaker 1: Boone rushed for no game that led to NATA though
Speaker 1: three and out Houston. Next drive, they go sixty one
Speaker 1: all but four yards on Stroud's arms Stroud, de Schultz
Speaker 1: Dalton Schultz. That is from twenty out seven to seven,
Speaker 1: five forty eight left first quarter. Prader adds a field
Speaker 1: goal to give Arizona the lead again fifty seven yardfield goal.
Speaker 1: How good is Prader? Ten to seven Arizona. Houston then
Speaker 1: goes seventy five yards on ten plays singletary in from
Speaker 1: ten fourteen to ten Houston eleven twenty left second quarter.
Speaker 1: Then the quarterback's trade picks Kyler deeped to Derek Stingley
Speaker 1: Junior on the first play of the ensuing drive. Once again,
Speaker 1: thank you Derek Stinglee Junior for being the third pick
Speaker 1: in the draft two drafts ago. That was very good.
Speaker 1: Then Stroud by Jalen Thompson in the end zone after
Speaker 1: Houston matriculated. But then after an Arizona punt, Houston takes
Speaker 1: over at their own twenty six with two to fifteen
Speaker 1: left in the half. They go seventy four yards Stroud
Speaker 1: to Tank Dell from forty out twenty one to ten
Speaker 1: Houston at halftime, this game is soaring over. Yes, uh no,
Speaker 1: Stroud by the way at halftime. This at halftime. Kelly
Speaker 1: eighteen for twenty four for two fifty nine, two touchdowns,
Speaker 1: one pick. He was sacked once a three thirty three
Speaker 1: to one forty four advantage in total yards for the Texans.
Speaker 1: Third quarter after I missed matt Amandola forty eight yard
Speaker 1: field goal, and by the way, at halftime people actually
Speaker 1: got Stroud MVP. He's going to be a huge thing tomorrow.
Speaker 1: Texts not so fast, everybody. Third quarter after a missed
Speaker 1: matt Amandola forty eight yardfield will try, Arizona fourth and
Speaker 1: goal at the let's call it the one and a
Speaker 1: half Kyler in incredible run. By the way, that was
Speaker 1: an exciting one and a half yards twenty one to sixteen.
Speaker 1: But the two point try, which is a Kyler on
Speaker 1: a rpo he run, that run fails. Two fifty two
Speaker 1: left in the third quarter, It's twenty one to sixteen,
Speaker 1: Houston three and out, Arizona down five. They're stopped on
Speaker 1: downs fourth and three at the Houston twenty three, murrayed
Speaker 1: to Dortch for only two Houston drive then extended by
Speaker 1: a muffed punt, but Stroud second intent the Arizona thirteen,
Speaker 1: picked by Chris Barnes, who returns at forty six yards
Speaker 1: with nine to thirty to go. Arizona then stopped on
Speaker 1: four downs, but then Stroud eventually picked second intent at
Speaker 1: the Arizona twenty five by Antonio Hamilton's senior with four
Speaker 1: fifty eight to go. All of a sudden, Stroud throwing
Speaker 1: picks Arizona then down five gets it to fourth and
Speaker 1: eight at the Houston twenty seven with thirty five seconds
Speaker 1: to go. Murray incomplete pass ball game. Somehow it stays under.
Speaker 1: Somehow Houston still wins. I guess Houston should have crushed
Speaker 1: him really without the picks. They were deep in Arizona territory.
Speaker 1: Twenty one sixteen Texans. Stroud twenty seven for thirty seven
Speaker 1: for three thirty six, two touchdowns, three picks. He was
Speaker 1: sacked three times Singletary twenty two for one to twelve
Speaker 1: and a touchdown, his first back to back one hundred
Speaker 1: yard games of his career, and Tankedell eight for one
Speaker 1: forty nine in a touchdown Jacksonville at Houston, a huge
Speaker 1: a FC South game. I split the difference between Jacksonville
Speaker 1: three and a pick em Jacksonville minus one and a half.
Speaker 2: Jacksonville won. Right now, I'll be hoping that one and
Speaker 2: a half pops and I'll be teasing up the Texans.
Speaker 1: That is.
Speaker 2: See, that is a big game for for I mean,
Speaker 2: look for those of us that have Jaguars Division tickets.
Speaker 1: Out there, this is this is massive. Next week.
Speaker 2: But uh yeah, man, I think I think this line
Speaker 2: is probably a out right here. I'm actually if it
Speaker 2: was Pickham or Texans one where I know it did
Speaker 2: float around, I think that would be fair too.
Speaker 1: I think this is I think this is a tight game,
Speaker 1: but I lean a little bit to a little bit
Speaker 1: towards the Texans side. Now that he's about right, c J.
Speaker 1: Stratt will be the Rookie of the Year. I still
Speaker 1: don't buy into the fact that he will get any
Speaker 1: MVP consideration. He'll get a vote because it's one, two, three, four, five,
Speaker 1: so he'll get votes.
Speaker 2: Well, I just had one more interceptions yesterday right than
Speaker 2: he did the whole rest of the season combined rock perty.
Speaker 2: On the other hand, oh boy, kind of like that
Speaker 2: all right, whole more. We got a bunch more games
Speaker 2: to get to. We'll get him in it's next numbers
Speaker 2: game vs. In the Sports Betting Network Skill Alexander. We
Speaker 2: get tweets at beating the book. Always appreciate the feedback
Speaker 2: and thanksgiving to you and yours. By the way, I
Speaker 2: hope everybody has a great week.
Speaker 1: Jesse Welch only because this comeback Player of the Year
Speaker 1: award absolutely befuddles and bewilders me. Is Kyler live at
Speaker 1: sixty to one, huge counting stats and seems to be
Speaker 1: one hundred back from a serious injury, huge county set.
Speaker 1: So he just got back. I don't think so, Jesse
Speaker 1: sixty to one. I wouldn't. I don't. I don't think
Speaker 1: so is Again, it's it's DeMar Hamlin, and I think
Speaker 1: I think we tend to overthink it. I know Jason
Speaker 1: loves John Metchi. We had the whole, we had the whole,
Speaker 1: very uncomfortable cardiac arrest and leukemia conversation. I'll tell you
Speaker 1: what's worse than Kyler Murray at sixty to one. You
Speaker 1: know he's on here at twenty to one. Aaron Rodgers,
Speaker 1: just stop it. They's just been hanging it there for
Speaker 1: a few months. By the way, there's also an Aaron
Speaker 1: Rodgers prop about him taking a snap. Let's have a
Speaker 1: no option to on that. Yeah, that would be good. Yeah,
Speaker 1: hold on, there's more tweets. Let me just get to
Speaker 1: these other two. This is from uh Bainbridge Dewiese. You
Speaker 1: think backing Minshew isn't fun? Gil, I'm pretty sure I'm
Speaker 1: taking Indian in my survivor pool down to me and
Speaker 1: eight others. Of course I could go to England, Patriots
Speaker 1: or Tennessee and feel equally nauseous. A what a nauseating
Speaker 1: weakness is the figure go with the right side? If
Speaker 1: those are the choices you have left? Yeah and Ben
Speaker 1: and Ben handor if Gilly, I'm feeling hollow today as
Speaker 1: I took your commodes and survivor this weekend. I had
Speaker 1: a good Sunday betting and fantasy wise, but still left
Speaker 1: feeling empty, not being able to do the mental gymnastics
Speaker 1: that is survivor hashtag fire riverboat. Yeah, man, it sucks
Speaker 1: to lose and survivor this late. And it's really even
Speaker 1: not that late, you know what I mean. Like in
Speaker 1: past year, some of us have gotten past Thanksgiving too,
Speaker 1: which is really sort of the threshold in circa. And
Speaker 1: it's it's hard to say this, but like having more
Speaker 1: than three hundred entries left is still a lot of entries.
Speaker 1: But it still sucks because exactly what Ben said, not
Speaker 1: being able to just do the mental gymnastics. Forget the
Speaker 1: money that you paid to get in, forget the money
Speaker 1: that you could have won. It's the exercise of it
Speaker 1: that you miss so much. All right, we got games
Speaker 1: to get to. All right, we're into the late window.
Speaker 1: Brown's at Broncos. Browns and Broncos seven and three. Browns
Speaker 1: now at the five and five Bronco Cleveland. We talked
Speaker 1: about Dorian Thompson Robinson twenty four of forty three for
Speaker 1: one sixty five, no touchdowns, one pick, and he was
Speaker 1: sag once. He was good when it mattered at the end,
Speaker 1: Boy was he on that last drive. Only five hundred
Speaker 1: eight total yards of offense in the game. Cleveland did
Speaker 1: outgain Pittsburgh. So Pittsburgh, as we mentioned, ten straight games
Speaker 1: this year, all of their games outgained. And then there's Denver.
Speaker 1: Last night, the Broncos lose twenty excuse me, the Broncos
Speaker 1: win twenty one to twenty. They beat the Vikings. The
Speaker 1: Broncos in their last three games now are plus ten
Speaker 1: in turnover differential. They were plus three yesterday. And it
Speaker 1: was everything. Third play of the game, thirty and one
Speaker 1: their own thirty four for the Vikings, Dobbs on a
Speaker 1: designed run stripped by Baron Browning, grabbed by Jaquan mcmillion.
Speaker 1: The officiating consultant on the broadcast, I forgot his name
Speaker 1: says it should have been a fifteen yard flag on Denver.
Speaker 1: There was an area flag. It did set up a
Speaker 1: Denver was set up at the Minnesota thirty. The defense
Speaker 1: did hold, but it led to a Lutz thirty one
Speaker 1: yard field The Broncos led three to nothing, ten twenty
Speaker 1: eight left in the first quarter. Dobbs was in and
Speaker 1: out of the tent after that. After that hit, Minnesota
Speaker 1: punted Denver three and out. Minnesota down three to nothing.
Speaker 1: They go sixty five yards all but eighteen on the ground.
Speaker 1: First play of the second quarter, Dobbs his shoes, throwing
Speaker 1: it away or taking the sack. He sheds Jonathan Cooper,
Speaker 1: he hits Josh Oliver three yard touchdown. Kirk Cousins could never, ever,
Speaker 1: in a million years have made that play. Seven to three,
Speaker 1: Vikings Denver three and out. Minnesota gets a back Joseph
Speaker 1: thirty four yard field goal ten to three. Minnesota eight
Speaker 1: or nine left in the second quarter. Then Denver gets
Speaker 1: a Lutz thirty yard field goal ten to six. Minnesota
Speaker 1: four to eight left. Minnesota punts after this is the
Speaker 1: end of this half. Both coaches botched it. Minnesota punts
Speaker 1: after a terrible play call and pass on third and
Speaker 1: one at that stopped the clock and gave Denver back
Speaker 1: the ball with just under a minute left, or just
Speaker 1: over a minute left. Minnesota was having no problem matriculating
Speaker 1: on the ground, and I don't know why they did that.
Speaker 1: So Denver gets the ball back. They matriculate first intent
Speaker 1: at their own forty seven with forty seven seconds left,
Speaker 1: Wilson to Adam Troutman for fourteen. Broncos have two timeouts left,
Speaker 1: and oddly, nay, stupidly, Kelly, they don't use one of them.
Speaker 1: By the time the next play was over and they
Speaker 1: gained five yards and use their second time out. There
Speaker 1: was only seventeen seconds left in the half at the
Speaker 1: Minnesota thirty four, so they settle for a Loutz fifty
Speaker 1: two yardfield goal. He makes it. But if you had
Speaker 1: Minnesota money line for the first half, boy, oh boy,
Speaker 1: did old Sean Payton do you a favor there? Ten
Speaker 1: to nine Minnesota at halftime, third quarter, Denver three nout
Speaker 1: Minnesota third and eight at the Denver I don't know
Speaker 1: what yard line here, Dobbs touchdown. Cousins could never have ever,
Speaker 1: in a million years made that play. What an unbelievable
Speaker 1: play by Dobbs. There seventeen to nine, Vikings seven to
Speaker 1: fifty five left in the third quarter, Denver three. Now
Speaker 1: Minnesota matriculates they're about to just put this game away.
Speaker 1: But first and ten at the Denver thirty four Alexander
Speaker 1: Madison hit by Deeja Jones and he fumbles recovered by
Speaker 1: Josie Jewel. Two forty eight left in the third quarter.
Speaker 1: That would lead to a Lutz thirty seven yard field goal.
Speaker 1: Seventeen to twelve, Minnesota twelve forty to go. Then Minnesota
Speaker 1: first and twenty at their own fifteen Hobbs hit by
Speaker 1: Josie Jewel, picked by Jakwan mcmillion. Denver set up first
Speaker 1: and goal to nine. They have to settle, though for
Speaker 1: a Lutz twenty eight yard field goal. The defense holds
Speaker 1: for the Vikings after a second down face mask penalty
Speaker 1: on Mims set the Broncos back seventeen fifteen, Denver ten
Speaker 1: thirty seven to go, then Minnesota another three and a half,
Speaker 1: but instead of a punt fake snap to the up back,
Speaker 1: ty Chandler goes for thirty one. Then third and twenty
Speaker 1: at the Denver forty eight. Dobs the ty Chandler for nineteen,
Speaker 1: fourth and inches at the Denver twenty eight toss Bush convert,
Speaker 1: but they have to settle for a Joseph thirty yard
Speaker 1: field goal. Twenty to fifteen Minnesota. Oh no, it's open
Speaker 1: for Denver backers with a touchdown in a two point
Speaker 1: conversion to win this three seventeen to go. Denver third
Speaker 1: and ten at their own twenty five. Sean Payton calls
Speaker 1: a running play p Ryan Samaje. P Ryan runs for seven.
Speaker 1: Obviously he had a fourth down play in mind. They do.
Speaker 1: Wilson to Sutton on fourth and three for thirteen. What
Speaker 1: a catch by Sutton. There was also a defensive pi
Speaker 1: that would have saved him. Also ten plays seventy five
Speaker 1: yards two fourteen. They get it into the house Wilson
Speaker 1: to Sutton from fifteen out. The two point conversion will
Speaker 1: determine the spread. Remember it was two and a half
Speaker 1: in favor of the Broncos. They're up one twenty one
Speaker 1: to twenty with one oh three to go. Because of course,
Speaker 1: it will no good, not even close. Denver twenty one
Speaker 1: to twenty. Minnesota did get the ball. They started the
Speaker 1: twenty five with all three other timeouts. They did convert
Speaker 1: a fourth and one. After Addison didn't turn it up
Speaker 1: on second down, Hobbs had an incredible scramble just to
Speaker 1: get it back to the line on third down. Then
Speaker 1: Dobbs sneak converts on fourth, but it was four and
Speaker 1: out from there. Ballgame. Denver wins it twenty one to twenty,
Speaker 1: but Minnesota covers for Minnesota backers, that's all that mattered.
Speaker 1: Wilson twenty seven to thirty five, for two to fifty nine,
Speaker 1: one touchdown, no picks, He was sacked twice. They were
Speaker 1: plus three in turnovers that led to three lutz Field
Speaker 1: goals plus nine Denver points net on that, and that
Speaker 1: is all she wrote. And again the Broncos not only
Speaker 1: plus three and turnovers last night, they're plus ten turnovers
Speaker 1: when you go back to their games against Patrick Mahomes
Speaker 1: and Josh Allen. It's just been an unbelievable ride for
Speaker 1: the Broncos and these in these past three weeks. Getting
Speaker 1: to five hundred, I will say, and this is another
Speaker 1: one like that Cleveland Cincinnati thing earlier against Pittsburgh where
Speaker 1: I kind of you kind of know what the line is, right,
Speaker 1: Denver's got to be about a one and a half
Speaker 1: point favorite in the same way that they were right
Speaker 1: around there against Minnesota here against Cleveland.
Speaker 2: Yes, yep, is it one of that is great deductive
Speaker 2: reasoning by you, Gilli. I am deduced it is the Broncos.
Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't I deduced it. Let's go, let's
Speaker 1: get a couple more in here, all right, Rams at
Speaker 1: Cardinals four and six. Rams we talked about Stafford and
Speaker 1: victory over the Seahawks seventeen of thirty one for one
Speaker 1: to ninety one, touchdown, one pixy with sack once only
Speaker 1: four hundred, four hundred and eight total yards offense combined
Speaker 1: in that game. And then Arizona, who we talked about
Speaker 1: loss to the Texans. They're two to nine. Kyler was
Speaker 1: twenty of thirty for two fourteen, one touchdown, one pick.
Speaker 1: He was sacked three times, seven carries for fifty one
Speaker 1: and a touchdown, Arizona by one and a half, splitting
Speaker 1: the pick in the three at home. This is Rams
Speaker 1: one point favorites. Like every I said this about the
Speaker 1: Ram Seahawks last week, the megapod question of what's the
Speaker 1: game you want? No part of Rams Cardinals will be
Speaker 1: that game one, absolutely no part. Yeah, I can't imagine.
Speaker 1: How could you possibly have conviction here?
Speaker 2: I mean, the only the only thing I could possibly
Speaker 2: be talked into is actually on the total over. If
Speaker 2: I could have a conversation with Sean McVay before the
Speaker 2: game and just absolutely go nuts on him, then maybe
Speaker 2: I'll bet the Rams.
Speaker 1: Hey. Yeah, Plus, we don't know what's going on with Cup.
Speaker 1: We don't. Well, as I said, they're better off of
Speaker 1: them because then I actually have to spread them all. Ron,
Speaker 1: I don't get it from the Kua. I don't know
Speaker 1: why I'm whispering, I'm talking like that, but I'm just saying,
Speaker 1: what's that more? Chiefs chiefs it? Chiefs are raiders. I'm
Speaker 1: telling if you don't believe me how bad Sean McVay
Speaker 1: is from week to week, you're not watching enough Rams football.
Speaker 2: It's dread not arguing that. I'm not gonna say that
Speaker 2: the Rams are better without Cooper Cup.
Speaker 1: Are they are? I'm telling you with one hundred percent
Speaker 1: certain of the r because all Stafford does is feed
Speaker 1: it to his boyfriend. They were better without him before this,
Speaker 1: before he got anyway, Chiefs are raiders. Chiefs by Chiefs
Speaker 1: sight unseen. They played a night Raiders losing but covering
Speaker 1: against the Dolphins. O'Connell twenty four for forty one, twenty
Speaker 1: four forty one for two seventy one, one touchdown, three picks.
Speaker 1: He was sacked twice Chiefs by seven on the road
Speaker 1: against the Raiders. This is up to nine and a half.
Speaker 1: This is another one. I don't want to I don't
Speaker 1: want to play the Raiders. I'm not going down that road.
Speaker 1: Week twelve is brutal, brutal for this, but it's definitely
Speaker 1: you can't you can't make a call on this still
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Speaker 2: Mine will be flooded with NBA bets. People are gonna
Speaker 2: be excited. That's what Thanksgiving is all about. Right, people
Speaker 2: are gonna be like, what is guild? That's so much
Speaker 2: in game college basketball? They don't really talk about this
Speaker 2: a lot.
Speaker 1: Looking forward to its starting Wednesday. This of course, assumes
Speaker 1: that I can get in technologically speaking and actually make
Speaker 1: it all work. I thought we had. I got myself set,
Speaker 1: thank you very much, except for like, I don't know
Speaker 1: how to change my name to something that people will realize,
Speaker 1: Oh that's you is it's defaulted to some random thing
Speaker 1: under score Gill. Oh yeah, I just love. I'm pretty
Speaker 1: sure everybody is. I'm gonna have to text Kule because
Speaker 1: there's some details I don't want to. I'm sure he
Speaker 1: knows all about. I'm sure I count on that. Uh.
Speaker 1: This is we get tweets at beating the book. This
Speaker 1: is from a Joe named Jim, A Joe named Jim
Speaker 1: singing Alexander Madison and the Hamilton Cadence. I thought I
Speaker 1: was the only person on earth that did this. Just
Speaker 1: you wait, no, man, I do it every time Alexander
Speaker 1: Madison gets the ball in my head. I'm singing, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think that's I think that's a pretty common one. Actually,
Speaker 1: string fellow Hawk Giants fan here, Tommy DeVito versus Belichick
Speaker 1: defense could be pat scoring on defense. I'll lay the
Speaker 1: three and a half. There you go. I've got a
Speaker 1: lot of those tweets. Sure, go for it, Archie.
Speaker 2: I just don't think this is the same Belichick or
Speaker 2: the same Patriots team for us to be connecting those
Speaker 2: kinds of trends.
Speaker 1: To arch Indy, we disaffectionately refer to Sean McVay as
Speaker 1: coach mcgenius, the same way a trashy, overrated home is
Speaker 1: sometimes called to make a mansion. And Max Cash, Oh,
Speaker 1: Max Cash was our baller. Yeah, he was the guy
Speaker 1: who was the baller who uh tweeted in what did
Speaker 1: you tweet last week? That baller tweet? I can't remember
Speaker 1: what it was. I think he had to be out
Speaker 1: a couple of times and he was like, what if
Speaker 1: you have a million dollars sportsbook? What's god? A security
Speaker 1: security knows who he is. I know, I know Max Cash.
Speaker 1: I'm paraphrasing. I'm just joking. He says, set the over
Speaker 1: under and how many entries will split the Survivor pod.
Speaker 1: He sets it at nine and a half. I will
Speaker 1: go over. Oh, I will go over, but not by much.
Speaker 1: I think it will be in the teens.
Speaker 2: That'll be an interesting I mean, at what point is
Speaker 2: too like it is too many to chop with?
Speaker 1: Though? What do you mean too many to chop? Too
Speaker 1: many people? There will there will not be a chop
Speaker 1: if there's too many.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, but I think you I think you're
Speaker 2: already getting up there when you're talking in the teens.
Speaker 1: Hmmm, I don't. I think think if they're taking remember
Speaker 1: how we talked about like all it takes is one guy,
Speaker 1: one guy, Dude, this is the biggest thing. One guy
Speaker 1: or one girl who thinks they didn't get there with
Speaker 1: the help of great fortune, right, and they're like, I'm
Speaker 1: just better at this than all of you are. I'm
Speaker 1: not shopping with you guys. That's all it takes, is
Speaker 1: there's no chop. But I think if there's fifteen sixteen,
Speaker 1: I don't think people are racing to chop at that point,
Speaker 1: even though it's going to be a lot of money,
Speaker 1: the intrinsic value. I just think people get greedy. They're like,
Speaker 1: we've been in this for seventeen weeks or eighteen or
Speaker 1: nineteen w whatever it is. And because there's a Thanksgiving
Speaker 1: the Christmas, I'm going to the end last year where
Speaker 1: there was three who chopped at the end and they
Speaker 1: did some game, right. Yeah, we think that was smart
Speaker 1: of them, right because they all guaranteed themselves a nice
Speaker 1: chunk of cash. I want to say a million each
Speaker 1: or something. Yeah the rest. Yeah, that's the way you play.
Speaker 1: But that's three people. If you have fifteen, that ain't happening,
Speaker 1: I don't think. Plus, remember, you got to organize all
Speaker 1: this separately, right you know what I mean? Like that
Speaker 1: is this it's not something that circay handles for you.
Speaker 1: You have to handle all of that separately. We got
Speaker 1: three more to get to. What's next. Bills at Eagles,
Speaker 1: Bills at Eagles. This is still an afternoon game. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: so the Eagles obviously sight unseen, they played the Chiefs,
Speaker 1: which is a huge game tonight. This is the Gauntlet. Remember,
Speaker 1: this is the Eagles Gauntlet. So it doesn't stop the
Speaker 1: six and five Bills who had the buy against Zach
Speaker 1: Wilson yesterday at Philly, who's eight and one currently, And
Speaker 1: that's correct. The Bills have played eleven football games at
Speaker 1: this moment and the Eagles have played nine. That will
Speaker 1: obviously change ten. Tonight. Alan Josh Allen in victory was
Speaker 1: twenty of thirty two for two seventy five, three touchdowns,
Speaker 1: one pick. He was sack once Yesterday against the Jets
Speaker 1: Shakir three for one to fifteen in a touchdown. He
Speaker 1: had that big long touchdown pass three ninety three to
Speaker 1: one to fifty five total yards advantage against the inept
Speaker 1: Zach Wilson and then Tim Boyle led Jets, and they
Speaker 1: were plus three in turnovers which led to a plus
Speaker 1: ten net Buffalo points situation. Philadelphia again places tonight Philadelphia
Speaker 1: minus four. I will say sight unseen of the Eagles
Speaker 1: tonight obviously factor is three and a half. Now, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think it should be a tick of buck three. Basically,
Speaker 1: I think we're three and a half. Yeah, Eagles three
Speaker 1: and a half painted pretty much everywhere. This opened a
Speaker 1: lot of spots three, which I was kind of eager
Speaker 1: to get down on the Eagles with on that side,
Speaker 1: but I wasn't gonna make a bad before the game tonight.
Speaker 1: So yeah, three and a half painted everywhere now. Sunday
Speaker 1: Night Football Ravens at Chargers. Ravens on extra rest. They
Speaker 1: beat the Bengals on Thursday against the Charge who again
Speaker 1: torpedoed by their own selves. Charging yesterday against the Packers
Speaker 1: when Johnston dropped as touchdown, Keenan Allen drop touchdown, Eckler
Speaker 1: funnel with the two Herbert twenty one of thirty six
Speaker 1: for two sixty yesterday and defeat at the hands of
Speaker 1: the Packers two touchdowns, no picks. They were sacked twice,
Speaker 1: eight carries for seventy three yards. Herbert does it with
Speaker 1: his leg sometimes and Keenan Allen despite that, drop ten
Speaker 1: for one sixteen in a touchdown more by four on
Speaker 1: the road. Give the Chargers a little respect, but there
Speaker 1: ed on this one. Yep, Ravens four painted across the
Speaker 1: board all right. Monday Night Football bears that vikings three
Speaker 1: and eight bear six and five vikings after they lose
Speaker 1: last night in dramatic fashion to the Broncos. Fields in
Speaker 1: defeat in one of the strangest football games. Again, we
Speaker 1: started with this game. I don't think we did it
Speaker 1: enough justice. We didn't start. But it was a second game,
Speaker 1: Oh no, it was the first game. Fields was sixteen
Speaker 1: of twenty three for one sixty nine. Yesterday, one touchdown,
Speaker 1: no picks. He was sacked twice. Eighteen carries for one
Speaker 1: oh four as is his mo more DJ Moore seven
Speaker 1: for ninety six and a touchdown. And again they out
Speaker 1: time of possession Detroit if you will, forty minutes and
Speaker 1: twenty four seconds to nineteen thirty six. They were, they were,
Speaker 1: They were plus two in turnovers. Detroit had four. They
Speaker 1: had two that led only to plus one Chicago point.
Speaker 1: That's it. And again this was the weirdest game because
Speaker 1: Chicago seemingly had it in control. There's four minutes and
Speaker 1: twenty two seconds after or whatever it was above four minutes,
Speaker 1: the Lions scored in a blink. It was a three
Speaker 1: and out, and the Lions scored again, and it was
Speaker 1: just like, what just happened? Do you imagine if Aiden
Speaker 1: Hutchins by the way, that if that safety wasn't a
Speaker 1: safety and Hutchinson had like scooped and scored it and
Speaker 1: they had covered Detroit. Yeah, it was the offensive lineman.
Speaker 2: It was so funny because it looks so lazy in
Speaker 2: real time, but it was like the smart choice. It
Speaker 2: was a smart thing where he goes down to like halfway,
Speaker 2: goes down to pick it up and he's like, I'm
Speaker 2: not gonna get there me just kid, it's a smart thing.
Speaker 1: It was a smart thing, Darnell, Right, Yeah, the Bears.
Speaker 1: So that was the Bears in defeat. And then Minnesota,
Speaker 1: as we just talked about losing twenty one twenty somehow
Speaker 1: to the Broncos. Dobbs twenty of thirty two for two
Speaker 1: twenty one, one touchdown, one pick. He was sacked twice,
Speaker 1: eight carries for twenty one yards and a touchdown. He
Speaker 1: did lose a fumble. And I will say it again,
Speaker 1: the two touchdowns for the Vikings last night, the Dobbs
Speaker 1: scramble avoid the uh the defender throw the three yard
Speaker 1: touchdown bass and then his scramble run. Kirk Cousins didn't
Speaker 1: play make those plays. No, never, he never does. Never.
Speaker 2: Plus three, when Dobbs can't hit Justin Jefferson on sixty
Speaker 2: yard touchdown passes when Justin Jefferson gets.
Speaker 1: Back, you think that's the case. Yes, I think that's
Speaker 1: the case. Why because the arm talent We've seen the
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins for years. But what but you're just deciding that, okay,
Speaker 1: by the way. We had somebody on who said, like
Speaker 1: Dobbs really sort of fell off later in the year
Speaker 1: with the Cardinals. No, he didn't. His team was terrible. Yes,
Speaker 1: team was terrible. Minnesota plus three in turnovers yesterday, excuse me,
Speaker 1: minus three in turnovers, which led directly to plus nine
Speaker 1: net Denver points. Boy, oh boy, that was everything in
Speaker 1: that game. Chicago Minnesota. I'll say Minnesota by four and
Speaker 1: a half, three and a half. Oh, I think I
Speaker 1: like the vikings there. Then okay, there's a play. I
Speaker 1: like the way what did you say that the uh
Speaker 1: what did you say the Baltimore Chargers line was? Or okay,
Speaker 1: what did you say the Buffalo line was three and
Speaker 1: a half, which has risen Okay, that opened pretty much three,
Speaker 1: I think everywhere because if those were if either of
Speaker 1: those were three, I would play the favorite. But I'm
Speaker 1: sure once it gets the three, people will immediately buy
Speaker 1: it back. What do you read into that movement which
Speaker 1: they've been Okay, let's start tonight. I guess a good
Speaker 1: way to close this anyway, start tonight. It's two and
Speaker 1: a half. There are some threes out there, right, but
Speaker 1: that is mainly stayed two and a half. All week
Speaker 1: on that Monday night football game tonight against the Chiefs.
Speaker 1: Like you, me and Matt used to talk about on
Speaker 1: Primetime Action, we were always so shocked by how information
Speaker 1: or the situation was always out there for as long
Speaker 1: as it was, and then right before game time it
Speaker 1: says that I would joke, it's as if there's ten
Speaker 1: and more million people betting right in this country. I
Speaker 1: just think people bet when they bet, and most people
Speaker 1: bet late. They're not like us, They're not immersed in this,
Speaker 1: and so they wake up Monday morning they're like two
Speaker 1: and a half. I gotta bet the Chiefs.
Speaker 2: It just surprised me that this is barely moved and
Speaker 2: then already that Eagles Bill's game has come off the
Speaker 2: three and gone to three and a half.
Speaker 1: It's either super early or super late, right.
Speaker 2: I just I'm surprised we haven't seen more threes on.
Speaker 2: This makes me a little nervous tonight where the books
Speaker 2: are glad to take Chiefs money and not go up
Speaker 2: to three and get a wave of Eagles money.
Speaker 1: And that's a little bit. It might be three games. Yeah.
Speaker 1: The bottom line is I don't read much into any
Speaker 1: of it, because to speculate is a fool's errand that's
Speaker 1: probably the best. Yeah. God, what did we learn from
Speaker 1: that exercise? That I that I love crappy teams like
Speaker 1: on value. The billy legit teams that I kind of
Speaker 1: like are Minnesota and Indianapolis. In the end, I hope
Speaker 1: you found some value in that exercise. It has been
Speaker 1: tried and true all year. We've done all we can do.
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