1 00:00:06,760 --> 00:00:08,880 Speaker 1: I would get up and just do rocky talk you 2 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:12,560 Speaker 1: see tutsis And actually that's how somebody ended up hearing me, 3 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 1: and words started getting around randomly. 4 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:22,480 Speaker 2: Welcome Everybody, episode four sixty two with Ashley Monroe. Such 5 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:26,759 Speaker 2: a good songwriter, a wonderful artist. Recently, you know, she 6 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:28,760 Speaker 2: said she was making a fresh start because she had 7 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 2: a cancer battle, which was in the news for a while. So, 8 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 2: I mean, I've known her for a long time, and 9 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:36,559 Speaker 2: to be honest, we hadn't talked in a while. But 10 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 2: it's one of those things where you have someone on 11 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 2: social media and you just kind of follow along. I 12 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 2: think I sent her a couple of messages when you 13 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:45,159 Speaker 2: know she was sick, but or when I heard about it. 14 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:47,239 Speaker 3: But it was really good to see her. If she's 15 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:48,280 Speaker 3: married to a former. 16 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 2: Major League Baseball player, which school, that's cool, right, it's 17 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:52,520 Speaker 2: cool that meet your kids probably. 18 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 3: Already get in sports, right, all right? Or both? 19 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, it'd be awful if I use it me and 20 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:01,280 Speaker 2: my wife. For example, she's not pregnant, but if the 21 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 2: kid got like my athletic ability, that would suck for 22 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 2: the kid and like get missed out on hers. So 23 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 2: she has a new single called hot Rod Pipe Dreams 24 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:13,680 Speaker 2: out now. Super cool new album coming out at the 25 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:15,680 Speaker 2: beginning of the year. She's on tour with a Little 26 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 2: Big Town in the UK, and so I don't know, 27 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 2: let's just get to it. She's from Knoxville, Tennessee. She's 28 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 2: great here. 29 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 4: She is. 30 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 2: Follow her on Instagram at Ashley Monroe Music. It is 31 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 2: Ashley Monroe. Ashley good to good to see you, so 32 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 2: good to see you. It feels like I don't know, 33 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:37,399 Speaker 2: I mean, I feel like I know you. It's a 34 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:39,960 Speaker 2: weird dynamic I have in my mind with you, right, 35 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:41,679 Speaker 2: because we don't see each other that often, but I 36 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 2: feel like when we see each other it's so comfortable 37 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:46,279 Speaker 2: almost immediately, because I think we knew each. 38 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 3: Other way early on in my time here. 39 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, right, And so that feels like we have a 40 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 2: long term friendship where we don't ever see each other. 41 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:55,919 Speaker 1: Yeah in text here and there, like always like figure 42 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 1: my stuff or see you in Vegas when we were 43 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 1: I was coming home from Miranda show. 44 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, it never feels like, uh, it just feels like 45 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 2: if we're we don't see each other for a long time, 46 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:09,359 Speaker 2: which is off in the case, that is just. 47 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:11,640 Speaker 3: Normal immediately and we don't have to do all that, like, 48 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 3: oh god, hey, we don't ask how have you been? 49 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 3: You know what? We sure didn't do that, didn't we. 50 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 3: I was like, what's up? Your hair's cool? 51 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 1: I mean, that's all. What's what's in front of us? 52 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:23,359 Speaker 3: How your boots are cool? In your promo picture though, 53 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 3: I was looking at that thank you? Do you do 54 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 3: you have O those yours? 55 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 1: I got those. I've been on this kick where I 56 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:35,120 Speaker 1: am just hunting down like the best vintage pieces I 57 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 1: can find, and I just can't get enough. I mean, 58 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 1: some would call it a problem, but you know what 59 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 1: I mean, I just I love like the soul of clothes, 60 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 1: and so I get these things in my head, which 61 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 1: I had those boots in my head for a vintage 62 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 1: from the sixties, never been worn exactly my. 63 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 3: Size, never been worn. 64 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:55,359 Speaker 2: But those that are listening and not watching, they are 65 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 2: like red, white and blue stars going up and kind 66 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:00,640 Speaker 2: of wrapping round, but they go. 67 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 3: They're basically knee high boots. They haven't been worn at all. 68 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:06,920 Speaker 1: No, not one scratch on the bottom. Nope, It's like 69 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:07,680 Speaker 1: they're made for me. 70 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 3: Where did you find them? E's? Oh yeah, do you 71 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 3: do eBay at all? 72 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:12,520 Speaker 2: No? 73 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 1: I don't ever do eBay. 74 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:17,799 Speaker 2: I never did debay, and it came into a lot 75 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 2: of memorabilia sports memorabiliya. Yeah, and so I had too much. 76 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, and I came into I mean I bought 77 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 3: it yeah right, yeah, and so. 78 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 2: I was like, I'm gonna sell some of a bag 79 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:31,679 Speaker 2: because it was just like fun for me to acquire it. Right, 80 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 2: So I got a part of the eBay culture, but 81 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 2: never used to die. 82 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 3: They're right, it's been around for twenty years or whatever. 83 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 3: I never have used debay. 84 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 2: But now I get on eBay and I just type 85 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 2: in a keyword and I click ending soon and I'll 86 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 2: buy stuff by stuff I don't even need, but just 87 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 2: because it's like a lower price than it should be. 88 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, it's a problem because I don't need it 89 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 3: to steal, but I try to get the steal. 90 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, because you're thinking you can resell it, sure, yeah, yeah, 91 00:03:56,800 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 1: I mean we think that. 92 00:03:58,080 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 3: Then they have to say that. 93 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 2: The eBay premium or I just like it and keep it. Yeah, 94 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 2: when I never had the plan to do that. 95 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, I get it. My husband has signed helmet from 96 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 1: every team that's cool in the NFL. But guess where 97 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 1: they're at in that attic because where you. 98 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 3: Put that, yeah, well know where my wife would let me. 99 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 1: And that's why, right, that's why exactly you all would 100 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:20,360 Speaker 1: put them around. But they're not as cute. 101 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:22,279 Speaker 2: I'd be in the living room if it weren't me 102 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 2: decorating the house. I would have posters and helmets. 103 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 1: Yeah. 104 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 3: So with John, for sure, he a big sports guy 105 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:29,480 Speaker 3: just in general. 106 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:31,160 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, he loves sports. You know. He used 107 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:34,359 Speaker 1: to play baseball, used to pitch for the White Sox 108 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:38,159 Speaker 1: for ten years, and he just he loves sports like 109 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:43,040 Speaker 1: I love music. And it's funny how different our brains are. 110 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 1: Well really, that's the end of the sentence. It's funny 111 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 1: how different our brains are. 112 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 3: He has he hasn't been married for how long now. 113 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:57,919 Speaker 1: Two thousand and thirteen? Is that almost eleven years? 114 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:00,480 Speaker 3: Yeah? And he's not pitched in ten years. 115 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 1: No, he pitched four ten years, got it? 116 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:03,160 Speaker 3: Uh huh? 117 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 1: And he hasn't pitched in about five years? Is when 118 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 1: he retired? 119 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 3: Does he miss that part of his life? 120 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 1: I think he does. 121 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:10,360 Speaker 5: I mean, doing your whole life. 122 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 3: I'm assuming too, Like it's. 123 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know they're this big and those are their 124 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:17,839 Speaker 1: friends when they're with them all day, they travel with 125 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 1: them has and the Lows. Yeah, it's yeah, it would 126 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:24,920 Speaker 1: be hard. How'd you get when will we met at 127 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 1: Joe's Pub in Chicago, Ed? 128 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, yeah. Were you playing a show? 129 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 1: I was with Miranda. I think that the Antie's modest 130 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:35,480 Speaker 1: thing that night. 131 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, what's that happened? What's happening with that? Do 132 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:40,160 Speaker 3: you guys do anything? Are you guys ever talk about 133 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:40,719 Speaker 3: doing anything? Again? 134 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 1: Well, I mean I feel like it's always like out there. 135 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 3: But it's never not happening. But it's never happening, right, 136 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 3: It just exists if it wants to exist. 137 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's cool. I was happy I knew you 138 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 2: before the Anti's though. To be honest, I just got 139 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:54,919 Speaker 2: cool when you came around as a nanny. I was like, 140 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 2: I already know Ashley, so I don't have to. 141 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:58,920 Speaker 1: Like be like, oh my god, this is no star struck. 142 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 2: Yeah right, yeah, it's cool. You got a new song 143 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:04,600 Speaker 2: out hot Rod Pipe Dream. It's out now Forward. It's 144 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 2: a lot of syllables, I know, it really is. 145 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 1: I wrote it with Brendan Benson, who is one of 146 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:13,600 Speaker 1: my dearest friends. He's the lead singer of rack and 147 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:16,720 Speaker 1: Tours and he's old. He's an old friend of mine 148 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:18,599 Speaker 1: and we just write so well together. And I was like, 149 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 1: I want to make something sound like the Beach Boys, 150 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 1: but now you know rock and. 151 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 3: Roll racking tours. But was Jack White and racktors for 152 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:27,919 Speaker 3: a while. Yeah, he's not anymore though, Yeah he is. 153 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:28,280 Speaker 2: He. 154 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 1: I mean they're kind of like the Anies actually got it. 155 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 1: It just goes record and then where do they go? 156 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:35,920 Speaker 1: We don't know. They're still friends, they still hang out. 157 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 1: When did they go again? 158 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 3: And they both sing? 159 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:43,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, they they both sing lead a lot. 160 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:47,280 Speaker 3: Jack White, you ever met him? You know? Oh? 161 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, I know him because he It was in two 162 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 1: thousand and eight. He reached out to me because he 163 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 1: heard me on WSM in his car, heard me on 164 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 1: the Opry, and he wanted me to do this thing 165 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:03,560 Speaker 1: the Racontours and Ricky Skaggs. So I readd a song 166 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:03,920 Speaker 1: with them. 167 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:04,559 Speaker 3: That's cool. 168 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, So he's been a friend since. And then I've 169 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 1: been on the road with the Third Man Band and 170 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 1: wanted Jackson when he produced that record. 171 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 3: Did I never met him? I've been a fan since. 172 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 2: I mean, obviously I'm a fan if I know he's 173 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 2: Racing Tour, but so obviously White Stripes Jack White Solo 174 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 2: Racking Tour. Any of his projects, I at least check 175 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 2: out some of them. I love some of them. I 176 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 2: like right right, But I've never met him a person. 177 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 2: Is he really because I'm I'm pale as crap? But 178 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 2: is he really pale in person? 179 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 3: Yea? 180 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 2: Like I respect that because I don't want to see 181 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 2: the sun ever. Yeah, I have no interest in the sun. 182 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 1: So opposite and it's gonna. 183 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, you're extremely tand like I don't. 184 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 1: Have to have so much work done. 185 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 3: That's okay. 186 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 1: I have spray tan too though. 187 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, spray town to fix it all. Yeah, I'm 188 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 2: just I'm an enemy of the sun. 189 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's wise. 190 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 2: You know, I don't like it. I feel like and 191 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 2: so I've and I've never drank. 192 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 3: I would like to drink, seems fine. 193 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 1: I don't drink anymore. 194 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 3: Really, but but I would like to have drink. 195 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 2: Maybe I don't drink anymore, but maybe I would have 196 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 2: liked to have had you have drink. I just I 197 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 2: don't know how to relax, so, but what I do 198 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 2: know how to do is be addicted to everything. So 199 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 2: I know, you know, I've never drank. But since I 200 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 2: haven't drank and I haven't been in the sun a 201 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 2: whole lot, I felt pretty good about my chances for 202 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 2: like for like a pretty like unless something like hits 203 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 2: my bus hits me, I feel. 204 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 3: Pretty good on my life. Really. The only thing, yeah, 205 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 3: why do you stop drinking? 206 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:32,320 Speaker 1: Because I just started noticing I didn't like how I acted, 207 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 1: what I said, how I felt, what I did like 208 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 1: everything about it. I started going, I don't even like, 209 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 1: I don't like how it tastes. For sure, I'm like, 210 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 1: what what's the point? 211 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 3: And you know, so what was the point? Is? Everybody 212 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 3: else was doing it? 213 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 1: It was so much fun, that's what I wanted. That's 214 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 1: so much fun. 215 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:51,200 Speaker 3: Okay, now I want to drink again. 216 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:53,680 Speaker 1: I know. But when you have stuff to lose, the 217 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 1: fund's not worth it. That's the thing that shifts in 218 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 1: life is like, oh, well that's so dumb. The fight 219 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 1: you had when you're wrong, or all those things that 220 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 1: you're young and care free. 221 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:05,719 Speaker 3: It's just like, whatever what happens with your mind? Does 222 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 3: it ever? Stop making music? Can you take a break. 223 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 2: Either psychologically emotionally however, and just go I'm not gonna 224 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 2: do music? For a minute, or is it always going 225 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 2: with something? 226 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:22,079 Speaker 1: It's always going with something. Oh, there is no turning 227 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 1: it off. It's like how I breathe. 228 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 3: Always a song in your head or maybe a melody, 229 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 3: either a song that you heard or a melody that 230 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:31,319 Speaker 3: you're working on. Is it always something that or something 231 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 3: I'm longing for? 232 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 1: Like I I'm listening to something like looking for feeling 233 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:39,120 Speaker 1: in music and not searching out if I'm not writing. 234 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:42,560 Speaker 2: It as in you're chasing Maybe this isn't what you're 235 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:45,440 Speaker 2: trying to say, like you're chasing an inspiration or maybe 236 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 2: you're inspired and you're trying to I don't know what 237 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 2: do you mean by that? 238 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 1: Like I'll just think, I'll get in the car and goo, 239 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 1: how do I feel? And it'll be like either you know, 240 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:57,400 Speaker 1: like a little Wayne. 241 00:09:57,240 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 3: Oh, so you'll play defined to identify. 242 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 1: How you feel. Yeah, then but then I'll kind of 243 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 1: start searching for something that has a certain feeling in it, 244 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 1: Like I'm always searching for a feeling that's in It's 245 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 1: in like deep and it's in a lot of restless 246 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:15,719 Speaker 1: heart songs. It's in that crowded house, a lot of 247 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 1: crowded house songs. I don't know if it's a way. 248 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:20,559 Speaker 1: I don't know if it's a way like the chords 249 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:23,840 Speaker 1: go or something, but it's like a mood that's normally 250 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 1: what I'm searching for. 251 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:26,720 Speaker 2: Do you feel like you're a minor or a major 252 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:29,440 Speaker 2: person minor? I thought I was gonna say that some 253 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:31,439 Speaker 2: people could be insulted by that. I feel like I'm 254 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 2: very much a minor what I enjoy at least. Do 255 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 2: you feel like you're an artist minor? 256 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, and my initials are AM a minor. I really 257 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:42,719 Speaker 1: think that's so accurate. I have so many songs to 258 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 1: start in a minor? 259 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 2: What key do you sing in? If you were to 260 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:48,200 Speaker 2: pick your favorite where you feel most comfortable. 261 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:52,439 Speaker 1: I kind of can find something on in every range. 262 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 2: But like if there's like pick your you're gonna sing 263 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 2: for the king of the world and sing your. 264 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 3: Best song, irobably, see, I can only sing in D. 265 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:03,560 Speaker 3: Really that I can't sing. 266 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:05,840 Speaker 2: So the only you know, I do music, comedy, music 267 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 2: right to everything in D because I have to because 268 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:08,960 Speaker 2: I can't get I can. 269 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 3: Barely get in it, and I have no ability to. 270 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:13,080 Speaker 1: Get out of it. So it's the good key. 271 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:15,680 Speaker 3: What's the it's the easiest key. 272 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 1: Actually, normally, when I get a guitar, I'll just play E. 273 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 1: That's my first like thing I'll hit. 274 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:24,400 Speaker 3: But have you ever seen the national anthem? 275 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:28,440 Speaker 1: Oh? Gosh, I used to at tractor pools and those 276 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 1: and stuff in East Tennessee. 277 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:32,559 Speaker 3: But did you have to say and that matched the picture? 278 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:33,320 Speaker 3: Could you just get it? 279 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:36,200 Speaker 1: I could get it, but it was nerve wracking. I mean, oh, 280 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:37,959 Speaker 1: it was nerve wracking. I remember I'd have to write that. 281 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:41,200 Speaker 1: The words on post its in my hands. My hands 282 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:41,960 Speaker 1: were so sweaty. 283 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:45,719 Speaker 2: And yeah, the problem with that national anthem? And it's 284 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:48,840 Speaker 2: a great and I want everybody know I love America. Yes, 285 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:51,080 Speaker 2: I can't get enough America, love it. Wish there were 286 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 2: more Americas. And I will speak for my friends that 287 00:11:55,440 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 2: won't say this because they won't like how it's misinterpreted. 288 00:11:58,040 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 3: And you're not saying this either. 289 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:03,080 Speaker 2: But that's a very difficult not song to sing, although 290 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:08,080 Speaker 2: it has its difficulties. But if you do it and 291 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 2: you crush it, everybody forgets about it thirty seconds later. 292 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:15,080 Speaker 2: If you mess it up in any way, it will 293 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 2: be put everywhere. And it's almost not worth going out 294 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 2: and risking it because all of a sudden. You're a 295 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 2: terrible American if you mess it up when it was 296 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 2: just an honest mistake. 297 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:28,720 Speaker 1: It's just too much pressure and the words are tricky, 298 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:31,440 Speaker 1: and then you overthink it and then it's over. I 299 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 1: mean some people do it beautifully though without seeming to. 300 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:36,080 Speaker 1: I mean a little big Ton just did it at 301 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 1: one of the Pred's games, and I'm like, they've got it. 302 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 1: I mean Stapleton, I mean. 303 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, and they have it. I would just be nervous 304 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:45,600 Speaker 2: with messing it up more than singing it. Like I remember, 305 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:47,720 Speaker 2: Luke got in trouble for writing on his writing words 306 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 2: on his hand, Luke Bryan, Remember that I didn't. And 307 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:53,199 Speaker 2: I worked with Luke for years and years away from 308 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:55,680 Speaker 2: like Nashville. We did American Idol together, and so we 309 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 2: just hang out because you just be sitting forever, and 310 00:12:57,720 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 2: we were watching somebody sing National Night the ball game, like, man, 311 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:00,960 Speaker 2: I don't do that. 312 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 3: I can't do that anymore. After because he he. 313 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:05,080 Speaker 2: Wrote a couple of words just so he wouldn't mess up, 314 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 2: and he looked down and got roasted for it because 315 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:08,080 Speaker 2: he wrote bad. 316 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 1: You get roasted no matter what I get there in 317 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:10,720 Speaker 1: this world. 318 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:11,679 Speaker 3: I get roasted every day. 319 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 4: Let's take a quick pause for a message from our sponsor. Wow, 320 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 4: and we're back on the Bobby Cast. 321 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:29,079 Speaker 3: How you feeling. I'm feeling good, healthy? 322 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, what so what's twenty twenty four? My last chemo 323 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:41,839 Speaker 1: was December one, and ever since I've I get checked 324 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:44,960 Speaker 1: every three months. I think now it's going to switch 325 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:45,720 Speaker 1: to six months. 326 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 2: Was that the recommendation three for a while and then six? 327 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:51,720 Speaker 2: Is it still nerve wracking every time you get checked? 328 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:53,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like I don't think about it. You know 329 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:55,320 Speaker 1: how when things happen, you put them in like the 330 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 1: too hard pile of your soul. Well that one's over there. 331 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:06,680 Speaker 1: And but I every time, like the day of my 332 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:09,280 Speaker 1: my labs and stuff, it's like I put the mask 333 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:11,559 Speaker 1: on going to the hospital and like it's like your 334 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:14,840 Speaker 1: body thinks it's gonna happen again or something. But yeah, 335 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 1: I just struck through and so far it's been good. 336 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 3: Were cleared? How do they clear? 337 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 2: You? 338 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 4: Do? 339 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:26,120 Speaker 3: They say? Hey, we checked and you're you're now free? 340 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 3: Your cancer free? Like what is that? 341 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:31,760 Speaker 1: It was tricky because I went to Vanderbilt and I 342 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 1: when I first was diagnosed, I just kind of went 343 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 1: in a prayer zone. And just said, show me what 344 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:40,280 Speaker 1: I need to do, and I would kind of start, 345 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 1: I don't know, seeing things in my head. And the 346 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 1: first thing I saw was the word Vanderbilt because I 347 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:47,000 Speaker 1: just had doctors kind of all over like I think 348 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 1: that's normal. So I just got I got Vanderbilt. I 349 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 1: got a concier doctor who you know, I could go 350 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 1: in and get you know, fluids or whatever I needed. 351 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 1: And I got you know, all my doctors there, and 352 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 1: then I just started really listening to my gut. So 353 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 1: bone marrow biopsy is how they found it, which was. 354 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 3: Oh, why did they even do that? Is it because 355 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:11,920 Speaker 3: you were not good? Like feeling not feeling good? 356 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 1: I was anemic and they couldn't get to the bottom 357 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 1: of why it was so anemic. And so I just 358 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 1: and I tried everything you know to do not have 359 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:25,320 Speaker 1: to do a bone marrow biopsy, but it just kept 360 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 1: I mean, it was going kind of fast, you know, 361 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 1: and at that point, it's like they worry that your 362 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 1: butt will be so thick that you have a stroke, 363 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:37,160 Speaker 1: and I kind of was getting lightheaded and whatever. So 364 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 1: I got a bone marrow biopsy, which is just I 365 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:43,120 Speaker 1: hated that so bad, and they want you to get 366 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 1: one in the middle of your treatment plan and at 367 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 1: the end. But I just told them, I'm not doing 368 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 1: that again unless it's going to change the course of 369 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:54,760 Speaker 1: our treatment. Like so it's interesting and they were fine 370 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 1: with it. It's interesting what things if you really pay 371 00:15:56,600 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 1: attention to your gut, that you can kind of say 372 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 1: no to. And you know, we kind of just do 373 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:04,760 Speaker 1: whatever the doctors say. But so at first, you know, 374 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 1: they had to do it to diagnose, which I understood, 375 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 1: and you know, they said six months of chemo and ratuxin, 376 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:16,200 Speaker 1: which is amniotherapy, and oh and it was rough. It 377 00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:18,400 Speaker 1: was rough, honestly because I was already so an ee mix. 378 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 1: So then you just get so knocked down. 379 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 3: Just wiped out. Gosh. 380 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I was just but I would just 381 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 1: come home and go to bed, you know, and just 382 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 1: think okay, And then after like four days, you know, 383 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:36,760 Speaker 1: three or four days, I'd be like, all right, I'm 384 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 1: gonna go upstairs, I work out, make myself move, you know. 385 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:44,760 Speaker 1: But then the first couple of months, yeah, I was 386 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:48,400 Speaker 1: I had to get you know, several blood transfusions and 387 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 1: stuff because it was like everything was an infection. Everything 388 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 1: was just weird. It's just so crazy. 389 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 3: What were you thinking about to get you through that? 390 00:16:56,840 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 1: You know, there's just those moments in time that's just 391 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 1: like pure, like I'm going to put my head down, 392 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 1: and probably like disassociation in a way, which some people 393 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 1: think of it as a bad thing, and I think 394 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:10,439 Speaker 1: it's bad if you live in it, but sometimes it's 395 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:11,159 Speaker 1: kind of handy. 396 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree, sometimes it's required. 397 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:15,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, shock is like a good thing sometimes, which. 398 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 3: Is why it actually happens right like this. 399 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:19,800 Speaker 2: It is actually a defense, right, Shock is a fricking 400 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:23,280 Speaker 2: defense to make sure you don't completely lose your crap. 401 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 2: And when they say, hey, you're good, had you already 402 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:28,639 Speaker 2: built back up? I mean, did you feel like you 403 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 2: were healthier leading up to it? 404 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:30,280 Speaker 3: Oh? Yeah? 405 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:33,439 Speaker 2: Is it a slow inclined back to I don't normally 406 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 2: isout the word, but back to what you used to 407 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:35,480 Speaker 2: feel like. 408 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:37,720 Speaker 1: It was and better? You know, at the end, my 409 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 1: my red blood levels were in the normal range. Everything 410 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:44,680 Speaker 1: was even better so than when I started. 411 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:45,879 Speaker 3: So healthier. 412 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:50,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, man, and platelets, like my overall platelets at one 413 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:52,440 Speaker 1: point they got down to thirty. That was at the beginning, 414 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:53,080 Speaker 1: And now they're like. 415 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 3: I don't know what that means? Though, like I don't 416 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:55,040 Speaker 3: know the comparison. 417 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:59,679 Speaker 1: I think normals like one forty to three hundred. 418 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:00,800 Speaker 3: You were, and you were at thirty. 419 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:03,240 Speaker 1: I was thirty. Yeah, and now I'm like every time 420 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:05,480 Speaker 1: I get them, that's like one something. 421 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:10,159 Speaker 2: Do you have anything that you used to monitor yourself? No, 422 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:12,600 Speaker 2: because if it were like an or ring, I'd be obsessed. 423 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:14,720 Speaker 2: I had to quit an or ring obviously not the 424 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:16,879 Speaker 2: same thing, but I wore that stupid I looked at it, 425 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:18,080 Speaker 2: looked at it every thirty seconds. 426 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 1: I have to throw away in mine to my or 427 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:21,640 Speaker 1: rings or any sort of a off it. It's too 428 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:22,200 Speaker 1: much power. 429 00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 3: Yep. 430 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:24,359 Speaker 2: And I would wake up in the middle of the 431 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 2: night to check my sleep, which is the. 432 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:29,680 Speaker 3: Exact topic Bobby, exactly was it right? 433 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:30,240 Speaker 1: Was it? 434 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 3: Yeah? 435 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:32,919 Speaker 2: It'd be like, you're not asleep and you need sleep, 436 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:34,400 Speaker 2: and I'd be like, yeah, it's a good point. 437 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 3: I'm awake to check out my or ring. 438 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:36,400 Speaker 1: It knows too much. 439 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:37,200 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah. 440 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:41,439 Speaker 2: So I can't if I have any opportunity to like 441 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:45,040 Speaker 2: over monitor same, I have to not do it at all. 442 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:48,440 Speaker 2: Like I haven't looked at and things have been the 443 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:50,639 Speaker 2: past three or four years definitely different with like the 444 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:54,680 Speaker 2: radio show not so much the podcast, because I would 445 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:56,800 Speaker 2: look at numbers of everything all the time. Yeah, I 446 00:18:56,800 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 2: get it, and have two modes. I need to look 447 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:00,880 Speaker 2: at every number all the time or nothing thing. 448 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:03,720 Speaker 1: Yep, I one hundred percent understand that. And it's a 449 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:07,240 Speaker 1: control thing, you know. It's I think that people who 450 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 1: don't we don't drink. I mean, there has to be 451 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:13,200 Speaker 1: a flare up and control is a biggie. I mean 452 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:16,720 Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, and actually this sickness forced me. I'm 453 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 1: still kind of a control freak, but I'm less of 454 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:22,119 Speaker 1: one because when you experience something with that out of 455 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:24,160 Speaker 1: your control. There was a moment where I just said, 456 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:28,200 Speaker 1: take it fine, I can't control it, and then there 457 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:30,480 Speaker 1: was such a good feeling about that. Really, so it's 458 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:33,400 Speaker 1: good to kind of remind ourselves Like, but I think 459 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 1: the better option to that is not to look at 460 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 1: the things or not to eliminate things that are gonna. 461 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:40,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, my wife will be like, is your ring charge 462 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:42,400 Speaker 2: you wearing it? I'm like, no, I don't charge what ring? 463 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:44,919 Speaker 2: Yeah exactly, I don't. I just don't do it, and 464 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 2: I don't look at numbers. Every once in a while 465 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:47,760 Speaker 2: that it might out and be like, hey, give me 466 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:50,400 Speaker 2: the give me a month from the past fourteen month. 467 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:53,680 Speaker 2: But if I do, yeah, like I drown in them. 468 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:55,720 Speaker 1: I know, I get it. I don't know. I stay 469 00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:59,639 Speaker 1: aloof on purpose. I don't. I haven't looked at the 470 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:03,680 Speaker 1: chart well maybe ever, even when I barely graized them 471 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:06,000 Speaker 1: back in the day, I thought, what's me looking at it? 472 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 3: Going to do anything that's pretty healthy? 473 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:09,760 Speaker 1: Make me nervous, wreck and make me not want to 474 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:11,480 Speaker 1: do music? Well, that's defeats the purpose. 475 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 3: Did you ever have when you were going through your illness? 476 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:17,639 Speaker 2: Did you stop focusing on music or did you focus 477 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 2: on in a different way, like did you use music 478 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 2: at all? 479 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 1: No? I went like, that's the only time that in 480 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 1: pregnancy that my music button was just like really pause. Yeah, 481 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 1: I don't know why did it? 482 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:31,479 Speaker 3: When did they come out? 483 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 2: And I'm leading up to asking about this specific project, 484 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 2: but when did the music bug kind of get back 485 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:38,439 Speaker 2: in your system? I feel like it's always lived there, 486 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:39,840 Speaker 2: like I took a vacation. When did it come back 487 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:40,600 Speaker 2: and move back in. 488 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:41,800 Speaker 1: And move back in when I got healthy? 489 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:42,080 Speaker 3: Yeah? 490 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 1: And it was like, you know, you process these things 491 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:48,239 Speaker 1: without even knowing it. You know that you're taking it 492 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 1: in and what you know. I'll just feel like this 493 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:54,240 Speaker 1: feeling like go get the guitar, ghosted it at the piano. 494 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:58,919 Speaker 1: I always say, it's like an emotional sneeze. It's just like, Okay, 495 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 1: something needs to happen. And then a lot of times, 496 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 1: if I'll just push record and just start, I don't 497 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:08,200 Speaker 1: know whatever it is. If I'll go back and listen, 498 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:11,440 Speaker 1: there's words in there that I can sound out. It's 499 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:11,960 Speaker 1: really interesting. 500 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:14,199 Speaker 3: You a melody writer or like a lyric writer, if 501 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:17,959 Speaker 3: you and both I mean both, but which one do 502 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:21,160 Speaker 3: you feel like you gravitate toward more instinctually? 503 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:28,439 Speaker 1: It's like I, I guess melodies. I love to like 504 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:33,120 Speaker 1: attempt to make a melody that like breaks your heart 505 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:35,679 Speaker 1: or like you feel you know what I mean? And 506 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:37,760 Speaker 1: then words. I have all these notebooks. I mean, I 507 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:40,320 Speaker 1: feel like I do both. I just a lot of 508 00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:42,399 Speaker 1: times I'll get a melody first, I guess, and then 509 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:44,480 Speaker 1: I'll go look at my word ideas. 510 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:47,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, well I thought I was. I was. 511 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:48,800 Speaker 2: Literally The next question, like, you ever create like a 512 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:50,960 Speaker 2: really cool melody and then you go back and you 513 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 2: find something you wrote eight months ago or pieces of 514 00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:55,680 Speaker 2: different things, like how does that work? 515 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:56,200 Speaker 3: Creatively? 516 00:21:57,200 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, I I love to go back. I'll just go 517 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:04,119 Speaker 1: in my voice memos and go back to like twenty twelve, 518 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 1: you know, and there'll be a nugget on there. Did 519 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:09,720 Speaker 1: that the other day on a flight. 520 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:12,359 Speaker 2: They a melody and a voice memoi. But words in 521 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 2: a book or do you leave words in a voice 522 00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 2: memo too? 523 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 1: Uh? No, words in the voice momoent Yeah, I trust it. 524 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:22,120 Speaker 1: But I found a bunch of old Annie's things actually 525 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:25,680 Speaker 1: that I put organized in a folder for us of 526 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 1: like ideas we had had on the bus years ago 527 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 1: that were good, you know, just I would have never 528 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:35,240 Speaker 1: remembered the melodies. I would have never so I try to. 529 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 1: I'm try trying to be good about like organizing them 530 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:41,160 Speaker 1: so they don't just fall off the edge of the world. 531 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 2: It's always cool because there would be things that I 532 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:46,399 Speaker 2: would have written and or even jokes that I it 533 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:48,000 Speaker 2: wasn't the right time, and then you go back and 534 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:49,200 Speaker 2: you're like, oh man, this was so good. 535 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:50,720 Speaker 3: I can still use this. 536 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:53,240 Speaker 2: That's always a good feeling, and also reminded me I 537 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:55,840 Speaker 2: wasn't because I hate old stuff. I always hate the 538 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:57,440 Speaker 2: old stuff that I've done, and I feel like that's 539 00:22:57,560 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 2: healthy ish because I maybe it feel like I'm growing. 540 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:03,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like we don't identify because it's like we 541 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:06,080 Speaker 1: can respect what we did back then. Like I'll go 542 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:08,960 Speaker 1: back and listen to Gosh even five years ago, and 543 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:13,199 Speaker 1: my twain is just so twiny, which everyone's always like 544 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:16,359 Speaker 1: that's a good thing. It's like now I'm like, we'll 545 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:20,240 Speaker 1: just try to ease up on your eyes and your whatever. 546 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:22,359 Speaker 1: But I respect. But it just sounds like a little 547 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:23,280 Speaker 1: old country girl. 548 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:24,000 Speaker 3: That's funny. 549 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:26,360 Speaker 1: I still am. I'm just an older country girl. 550 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 2: I mean, I went to speech pathology for years because 551 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:31,400 Speaker 2: being from Arkansas, my accent was super thick. Yeah, right, 552 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 2: And it was it was the eyes, eyes or the 553 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:41,240 Speaker 2: iron g's and those those were the biggest two. When 554 00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:43,399 Speaker 2: they did they have you say all this stuff, and 555 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:46,359 Speaker 2: it'd be like, I just want to go fishing, and 556 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 2: they'd be like, okay, well let's work on a few 557 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:49,800 Speaker 2: of these things. And it was the eyes that was 558 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:52,200 Speaker 2: the biggest one. And I think if you're from where we're. 559 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:53,800 Speaker 1: From, yeah, it's kind of undoable. 560 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:54,680 Speaker 3: The eyes are tough. 561 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:56,640 Speaker 1: I'll take the if I'll untwing. 562 00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:57,920 Speaker 3: And then the I in g's. 563 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:00,639 Speaker 2: But it's funny that you feel like you were, or 564 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 2: people tell you were twangy year. Yeah, have you made 565 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:08,639 Speaker 2: any like purposefully not been as twangy like with the 566 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:09,199 Speaker 2: new stuff? 567 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:12,800 Speaker 1: Or no, I just try to if one sneaks out 568 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:15,240 Speaker 1: that's just so over the top, I'll be like, oh, 569 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:17,200 Speaker 1: I just gotta I don't try to take all of 570 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 1: them out. 571 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:21,920 Speaker 3: Just the why why this record? Like what I don't 572 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:23,240 Speaker 3: know what's happening here with this record? 573 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:27,359 Speaker 1: It's happening. So I just kind of felt like after 574 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:30,520 Speaker 1: the whole ordeal, kind of like a homecoming of the 575 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 1: soul sorts. 576 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:31,800 Speaker 3: I just. 577 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:35,680 Speaker 1: I started hearing these melodies. Some of the songs on 578 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:39,720 Speaker 1: the record are actually old, like two thousand and four, 579 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:42,600 Speaker 1: you know, or when they were written. It's just songs 580 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:46,719 Speaker 1: that have always meant so much to me, but they 581 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:48,560 Speaker 1: kind of tell a story, and it's like I just 582 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:51,399 Speaker 1: saw this vision in my mind of what I wanted 583 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:54,520 Speaker 1: it to look like. It was like being from East Tennessee. 584 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:58,240 Speaker 1: I've always had like that smoky mountain feeling. It's always 585 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:02,040 Speaker 1: been in my soul, and I wanted to come back 586 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:06,679 Speaker 1: and just kind of reflect that place and who I am. 587 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:08,920 Speaker 2: Did you write a whole bunch of songs and cut 588 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:12,560 Speaker 2: it down or did you go now that these are 589 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:13,560 Speaker 2: the songs I want to do. 590 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:15,240 Speaker 3: Let's do these songs. 591 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:18,359 Speaker 1: I mean I knew some that I were going to do, 592 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:20,400 Speaker 1: and then some are kind of newer. What I did 593 00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:24,720 Speaker 1: was myself and Guina Johnson, who was an amazing engineer 594 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:29,119 Speaker 1: and producer, and I just took the mind out of 595 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 1: it and we went to East Tennessee. We were rented 596 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 1: this cabin from eighteen fifty beautiful that backed up to 597 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 1: the Smoky mountains, and we brought all of this gear 598 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:46,160 Speaker 1: and her and I hold it up there and we 599 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:50,520 Speaker 1: shoot too yeah wow, and unloaded it. We were pouring 600 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:52,240 Speaker 1: the sweat. I mean, it was like but we set 601 00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:57,440 Speaker 1: it up and I started recording. I just went in 602 00:25:57,480 --> 00:25:59,919 Speaker 1: the zone without thinking, you know. We went out on 603 00:25:59,920 --> 00:26:02,160 Speaker 1: the porch and she would record. We went out, put 604 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:04,120 Speaker 1: a quilt in the yard and she recorded. That's what 605 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:07,240 Speaker 1: I like trains is you can hear all the critters, 606 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:10,040 Speaker 1: you know, because it's but I wanted that. I wanted 607 00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:14,680 Speaker 1: those textures like kind of woven throughout this whole scene. 608 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:16,720 Speaker 3: Was she ever like, it's hard to do this because 609 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:18,720 Speaker 3: I gotta edit, get edit the squirrel out. It's only 610 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:20,800 Speaker 3: edit half a Squirrel out. No. 611 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:22,639 Speaker 1: That's the thing about her is that it's kind of 612 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:28,159 Speaker 1: magical when you take like the thinking part out and 613 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:31,280 Speaker 1: just kind of go, let's see what needs to happen, 614 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:32,960 Speaker 1: you know. And she knows I like singing in the dark, 615 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:35,800 Speaker 1: so she turns all the lights off and lights candles 616 00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:37,800 Speaker 1: and I sit there and I don't know. It's it's 617 00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:40,400 Speaker 1: really cool as opposed to just going to stud dumb 618 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:42,520 Speaker 1: being like, Okay, we gotta I gotta hit that note 619 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:43,200 Speaker 1: by five. 620 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:46,879 Speaker 2: You know, you ever have a song that's really emotional 621 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 2: and you cry while singing it? 622 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:49,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, I do. 623 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:54,439 Speaker 1: I have a couple of those on on this album actually, 624 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:57,240 Speaker 1: where I just yeah, and it always sneaks off. It's 625 00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:58,880 Speaker 1: like I can feel it right here and it's like, oh, 626 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:02,720 Speaker 1: you know, but I think those moments are cool. 627 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:04,800 Speaker 3: I mean I agree. 628 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:06,840 Speaker 2: My answer is yes, I agree. It would be difficult 629 00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:09,480 Speaker 2: for that would be difficult for me. Yeah, I don't 630 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:11,600 Speaker 2: think I have the vulnerability to do that. I've cried 631 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 2: on the air four or five, six sevens, I'm sure. 632 00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:14,639 Speaker 3: Yeah. 633 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 2: I never plan on it, and it's like it jumps me. 634 00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 3: It's like I'm being attacked on anally. I didn't see 635 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:21,360 Speaker 3: it coming. 636 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:24,200 Speaker 2: I know emotions like that, but then I can. I 637 00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:26,480 Speaker 2: also have the power to stop it and do it. 638 00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:29,159 Speaker 2: But I and a lot of times I'll choose to 639 00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:31,160 Speaker 2: stop it. Do you ever, do you just keep going? 640 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:33,120 Speaker 2: Will you just keep going? Or will you kind of regather? 641 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:36,280 Speaker 1: I mean, I try to stay in it as long 642 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 1: as I can keep control. I cut the song the 643 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:41,600 Speaker 1: other day just because I wanted to. It's an old 644 00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:44,480 Speaker 1: Loretta and Conway song. Conway actually wrote it. It's called 645 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:48,560 Speaker 1: as soon as I hang up the phone, I just 646 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:50,320 Speaker 1: said I want I want to sing it just because 647 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:52,879 Speaker 1: I felt it my soul. But Loretta does this thing 648 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:55,560 Speaker 1: at the end where she does cry, and I felt 649 00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:57,600 Speaker 1: that same emotion that the end has snuck up on 650 00:27:57,640 --> 00:27:58,920 Speaker 1: me too, And it's kind of in the thing. 651 00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:00,640 Speaker 3: Do you do both parts? 652 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:03,199 Speaker 1: I know I didn't do any Conway parts. He on 653 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:07,960 Speaker 1: the recording, he's kind of doing like he's like on 654 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:10,479 Speaker 1: a CBE radio, like talking like I love you Loretta, 655 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:14,479 Speaker 1: she singing, and he's like, I'm sorry to Loretta. So 656 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:15,160 Speaker 1: I just kind of. 657 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:19,639 Speaker 2: Well, if you need a CBE guy, I'm your guy. Okay, 658 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:23,280 Speaker 2: I can lay down to me and ceb I learned 659 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:25,359 Speaker 2: how to play You're the reason our kids are ugly 660 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:30,919 Speaker 2: to me like that, that's like, that's a funny song, right, 661 00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:33,600 Speaker 2: And it's like that's what I think of when I 662 00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:36,119 Speaker 2: think of those two because I'm just not like funny music, 663 00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:38,920 Speaker 2: Like that's a good one. 664 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:41,120 Speaker 3: Yeah you know that one? Yeah? Oh yeah. 665 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:44,160 Speaker 1: I love them together. I think I love the idea 666 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:46,280 Speaker 1: of like two stars just doing. 667 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:48,520 Speaker 3: A record happened a lot more back in the day. 668 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:52,200 Speaker 1: I know, I'm rallying up some right now. Some will 669 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:54,960 Speaker 1: listen to me, just like I've always told Wayland Payne, 670 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:56,480 Speaker 1: one of my dear friends, I'd love to do that 671 00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:59,560 Speaker 1: with him. Or I mean, you could just any any 672 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:01,720 Speaker 1: artist respect it and you can literally just do a 673 00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:02,240 Speaker 1: record together. 674 00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:04,800 Speaker 3: One. What about the cover songs on this project? 675 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:06,880 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I have a lot of cover songs that 676 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:10,120 Speaker 1: I just songs that I listened to a ton my 677 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:12,040 Speaker 1: whole life that I've that have always just been my 678 00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:15,240 Speaker 1: favorite songs. I thought, let me just sn Kentucky Headhunter's 679 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:17,480 Speaker 1: Deep Cut that I used to love, and I'm like, 680 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:21,320 Speaker 1: I'm gonna record that Knights and White Satin. 681 00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:27,400 Speaker 3: There's Knights and Whiteside Blues. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 682 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:31,520 Speaker 1: And oh that's no way to say goodbye. That's when 683 00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:34,280 Speaker 1: I cried. And while I was singing it, the Leonard 684 00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:36,640 Speaker 1: Cohen one that was kind of haunting me. So yeah, 685 00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:39,080 Speaker 1: other kind of sprinkled. 686 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:41,480 Speaker 3: Throughout any that you thought you may want to sing 687 00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:41,920 Speaker 3: and you didn't. 688 00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:46,880 Speaker 1: Nope, I have a lot of songs. I mean, I'll 689 00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:48,560 Speaker 1: probably have to hit it down. 690 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:49,280 Speaker 3: Really or not? 691 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:50,240 Speaker 1: I mean really, who cares? 692 00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:51,560 Speaker 2: Yeah at this point, you know what, You're right, at 693 00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:54,720 Speaker 2: this point, who cares? People find out ninety song records 694 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:56,200 Speaker 2: and it doesn't matter, It doesn't hurt anything anymore. 695 00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:57,320 Speaker 3: There's infinite space. 696 00:29:57,480 --> 00:29:59,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, it costs money to make music, So I'm not 697 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:01,240 Speaker 2: saying that it doesn't cost money to make music. There's 698 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:03,800 Speaker 2: infinite space on on the music you put out now, 699 00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:05,400 Speaker 2: or it wasn't the case because there's only. 700 00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:07,960 Speaker 3: So much, so much room on a CD or tape. 701 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:08,760 Speaker 3: Do you ever have tapes? 702 00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:12,280 Speaker 1: Is that a little bit have a tape that was 703 00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:19,080 Speaker 1: a homemade like hometown tape with like cover of yodel 704 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:22,720 Speaker 1: and blues and you know all of the. 705 00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:24,480 Speaker 3: So you never bought a tape just generally you didn't 706 00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:25,000 Speaker 3: go to the store. 707 00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:25,800 Speaker 1: I bought tapes. 708 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:27,520 Speaker 3: Oh, you did have tapes the. 709 00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:31,959 Speaker 1: Walmart singles, Yes, like like TLC would have them on 710 00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:33,840 Speaker 1: one side and then the karaoke version on the other side. 711 00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:35,240 Speaker 3: Oh, I don't remember. I don't remember that. 712 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:37,840 Speaker 2: I remember the singles, but they'd had like it'd be 713 00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:40,440 Speaker 2: like Vanilla Ice and then on the back side it'd 714 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:42,520 Speaker 2: be Ices Baby, but then like play that funky music 715 00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:43,800 Speaker 2: white Boy in the back, so it'd be like one 716 00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:44,920 Speaker 2: side another one. 717 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:45,200 Speaker 3: Yeah. 718 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:47,360 Speaker 2: One time I had a Vanilla Ice front side, MC 719 00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:48,280 Speaker 2: Hammer backside. 720 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:49,360 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. 721 00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:50,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, tell me. I wasn't living then. 722 00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:53,840 Speaker 1: I didn't even know they made. It was legit artist side. 723 00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:55,520 Speaker 3: They I never had. 724 00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:58,400 Speaker 2: I have vinyl now. Never I missed records that was 725 00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:04,240 Speaker 2: before me. Yes, I was at tapes. Never had eight tracks. 726 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:07,160 Speaker 1: No, Daddy had an eight track in the garage when 727 00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:07,880 Speaker 1: you washed the car. 728 00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:09,840 Speaker 3: Do you remember your first CD you ever had? 729 00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:11,800 Speaker 1: My first CD was. 730 00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:17,240 Speaker 3: My first CD that you bought? 731 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:21,080 Speaker 1: I know, my first tape was Aiming Grant, my first 732 00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:28,840 Speaker 1: you know, I went to kmart and got what was 733 00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:31,920 Speaker 1: my first CD? I don't remember. Probably LeAnn Rhymes. Honestly, 734 00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:35,200 Speaker 1: I'm sure it was LeAnn Rhymes. You let up my 735 00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:35,880 Speaker 1: life or something. 736 00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:37,440 Speaker 3: Do you ever meet her? 737 00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:40,320 Speaker 1: I've talked to her on Instagram. I feel like I 738 00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:42,239 Speaker 1: might have met her briefly once before, but I want 739 00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:42,720 Speaker 1: to meet her. 740 00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:45,640 Speaker 3: Along but never never spent neat no quality time with her. 741 00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:48,200 Speaker 2: I haven't either, but she was gone by the time 742 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:50,640 Speaker 2: I got here, right And I don't know if you 743 00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:53,120 Speaker 2: guys ever crossed like little kids. I moved here in 744 00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:57,200 Speaker 2: twenty thirteen, yeah, and she was not here at all. 745 00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:00,320 Speaker 2: She like came in the studio one time, not even 746 00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:01,720 Speaker 2: as a yes. She just walked in the room once, 747 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:03,760 Speaker 2: went what up everybody, and then left and I was like, 748 00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:04,200 Speaker 2: who was that? 749 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:05,920 Speaker 3: And they were like there was like in rhymes. I 750 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:08,760 Speaker 3: was like, oh wow, that's weird, not not in a 751 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:11,320 Speaker 3: bad way, but she she just popped and yelled high 752 00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:12,160 Speaker 3: and walked out. 753 00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:15,800 Speaker 1: She's very mysterious. Then, like it just hiding from us. 754 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:18,760 Speaker 3: What's touring like touring? 755 00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:23,040 Speaker 1: Well, I'm not touring really right now. 756 00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:25,000 Speaker 2: I'm going to tour with any shows though I know 757 00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:26,560 Speaker 2: you're in the UK stuff with a little big town. 758 00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:30,880 Speaker 1: UK, little big tone. I've played a show here in Nashville, So. 759 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:32,160 Speaker 3: I guess my question is how did it feel to 760 00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:33,280 Speaker 3: do live music? Again. 761 00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:35,760 Speaker 1: I feels so great. You know, I love I love 762 00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:38,400 Speaker 1: singing so much, and I don't really sing at home. 763 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:42,960 Speaker 1: Son doesn't really like it. And my husband but he 764 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:45,080 Speaker 1: doesn't say anything. But I just home is not where 765 00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:47,480 Speaker 1: I sing. I sing like hidden in my room at home. 766 00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:51,680 Speaker 1: So it feels good to sing out for people. 767 00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:53,240 Speaker 3: It's like telling a pain or they can have paint 768 00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:56,600 Speaker 3: brushes in the house. What's happening here? Hey, da Vinci, 769 00:32:57,080 --> 00:33:01,200 Speaker 3: no paint brushes for you? I know, yeah, howl? Howld 770 00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:01,680 Speaker 3: your kid now? 771 00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:05,840 Speaker 1: He is six? What right? 772 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:07,200 Speaker 4: Yeah? 773 00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:09,400 Speaker 3: That feels like yesterday. 774 00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:12,360 Speaker 1: I know, it really does. It's so sweet and I'm 775 00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:14,720 Speaker 1: I'm so funny. It's like I have my creative side. 776 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:17,680 Speaker 1: I don't really like some people are really good at 777 00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:20,520 Speaker 1: like taking their kids on on tour or something. But 778 00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:23,280 Speaker 1: I'm like, I do better if I can go focus 779 00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:25,040 Speaker 1: on that, you know, the work thing, and then come 780 00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:26,360 Speaker 1: home and then I'm in mom. 781 00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:29,440 Speaker 3: Mode, separate them. Yeah. Do you listen to like the 782 00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:31,280 Speaker 3: kid his kids music? 783 00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:34,320 Speaker 1: No? No, no, no, no, no, I don't. He doesn't 784 00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:40,680 Speaker 1: really care about kid music. He he's always liked real music. 785 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:44,560 Speaker 3: What about like kids TV shows like Bluebird? What's his name? Blue? 786 00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:47,680 Speaker 3: Blue and Blue, Yeah. 787 00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:49,320 Speaker 1: Two different ones. Yeah, both of those. 788 00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:51,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, you've watched that. Would you ever do a kid's record? 789 00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:54,720 Speaker 2: We ever inspired to a kid's record? Because kids music suckt. 790 00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:59,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's probably a way you can make it lullaby. 791 00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:02,080 Speaker 3: Oh you're talking about young young kids. 792 00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:09,680 Speaker 1: We're just like I mean, you know, Tom t Hall 793 00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:12,400 Speaker 1: put out that record that was really cool, so it 794 00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:14,040 Speaker 1: can be done. I've not really thought about it though. 795 00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:16,560 Speaker 3: Your son is he more music or sports? 796 00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:17,680 Speaker 2: You know? 797 00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:19,880 Speaker 1: He hums all the time. I noticed that, but then 798 00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:23,320 Speaker 1: he kind of throws the ball with John two. So 799 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:24,400 Speaker 1: I can't really tell. 800 00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:28,960 Speaker 2: You two careers that I would be like you definitely 801 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:30,680 Speaker 2: don't want I would never want my kid to get 802 00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:35,719 Speaker 2: into any sort of art. Yeah, although it's awesome, but 803 00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:38,480 Speaker 2: as you know, everybody wants to do art. So it's 804 00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:40,239 Speaker 2: really hard to do and there's a lot it's it's 805 00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:47,319 Speaker 2: a very difficult place to make yourself. It's a very 806 00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:49,080 Speaker 2: vulnerable place you have to be. I'm creating something and 807 00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:50,200 Speaker 2: I need you to tell me if you like it 808 00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:52,640 Speaker 2: or not. And my whole worth is, at least professionally, 809 00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:53,360 Speaker 2: is gonna be based. 810 00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:55,320 Speaker 3: On if you like it or not. That's tough and 811 00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:57,840 Speaker 3: then make a living at it. Yeah, I just I 812 00:34:57,880 --> 00:34:59,600 Speaker 3: would rather you go just dig a hole like it 813 00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:00,560 Speaker 3: makes it doing that. 814 00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:02,439 Speaker 1: We'll see. 815 00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:06,320 Speaker 3: I don't know your husband. How tall is he? 816 00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:10,799 Speaker 1: My husband is six one, I guess maybe six two. 817 00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:13,000 Speaker 3: How tall are you? 818 00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:14,080 Speaker 1: Five six? 819 00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:17,000 Speaker 3: Okay, that's pretty those are both pretty average. 820 00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:19,279 Speaker 2: Then I'm just thinking about your son and what what 821 00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:23,120 Speaker 2: the awesome mix of jeans he's got unless he is 822 00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:26,719 Speaker 2: like I can't play sports because he's so any music, 823 00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:28,200 Speaker 2: but then he's like tone deaf at the same time, 824 00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:29,759 Speaker 2: he gets the worst into both. 825 00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:31,680 Speaker 1: I have been sneaking in some like I'll be like 826 00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:35,680 Speaker 1: match this, match this, and he'll instantly find it. 827 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:36,960 Speaker 3: I don't think I can do that. 828 00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:38,360 Speaker 1: My mom can't do it. 829 00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:42,759 Speaker 3: Again. 830 00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:47,160 Speaker 5: Mm hm, oh my god, I heard it. 831 00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:47,560 Speaker 3: I heard it. 832 00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:51,800 Speaker 1: You've landed on it. 833 00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:55,760 Speaker 3: So I did not start there though, right I've looped. 834 00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:57,279 Speaker 3: Give me, give me one more, give me one more 835 00:35:58,719 --> 00:35:59,239 Speaker 3: that the same one? 836 00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:01,080 Speaker 1: Oh give me do If I thought you said, yeah, 837 00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:02,120 Speaker 1: the same one you. 838 00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:03,560 Speaker 3: Want lower, I don't. I don't know. 839 00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:13,160 Speaker 2: Mm. That's like a harmony that I wasn't trying to do. 840 00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:15,480 Speaker 2: The harmony as the thing that one more time. H 841 00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:23,280 Speaker 2: m m hmm, oh, I thought you did the first one. Mm. 842 00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:25,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that was it. That was it. 843 00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:30,400 Speaker 3: That's hard, I know. That's why I can only go. 844 00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:34,040 Speaker 3: I can only sing in one key and that's it. 845 00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:36,680 Speaker 3: That's the only and I only. 846 00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:39,680 Speaker 1: Kind of can you matched that last one? I hate 847 00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:40,200 Speaker 1: to tell you though. 848 00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:44,919 Speaker 3: Okay, So on the album, the whole the song is out, 849 00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:47,640 Speaker 3: the hot rod Pipe drink, The whole album's next year. 850 00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:50,760 Speaker 2: The whole thing comes up next year, right, is tentative time? 851 00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:52,440 Speaker 2: Or like you guys have a plan. 852 00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:55,359 Speaker 1: Already, maybe like January February, you know. I put out 853 00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:58,279 Speaker 1: Like I Like Trains, which is an old Freddie will 854 00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:02,279 Speaker 1: Smith song that I've always loved. And then I put 855 00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:04,719 Speaker 1: out Risen Road, which is another one I wrote with 856 00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:07,840 Speaker 1: Brendan Vincent and Wayland Payne twenty I wrote it in 857 00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:09,799 Speaker 1: twenty fifteen. I always loved it. So I'm just kind 858 00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:12,480 Speaker 1: of putting out one at a time. And I don't 859 00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:12,759 Speaker 1: really know. 860 00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:16,520 Speaker 3: I took Carter Faith out on the road with me 861 00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:19,759 Speaker 3: for some shows. Yes, I love her so much, like 862 00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:21,120 Speaker 3: she's got a real bite. 863 00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:24,680 Speaker 2: I like, yeah she does, and you don't really just 864 00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:27,799 Speaker 2: if you just look at her, maybe you don't see 865 00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:28,200 Speaker 2: the bite. 866 00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:28,719 Speaker 1: Yeah. 867 00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:30,759 Speaker 2: But man, when you hang out in the best way, 868 00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:33,359 Speaker 2: like you hang out with her, like you learn about her, 869 00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:35,200 Speaker 2: you talk to her, you hear her music like she's 870 00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:35,480 Speaker 2: got it. 871 00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:36,520 Speaker 3: There's something. 872 00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:39,600 Speaker 1: I agree. We've written so many songs. I just can't 873 00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:43,120 Speaker 1: wait for her to release them. Actually, she's got a 874 00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:44,040 Speaker 1: few on my record too. 875 00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:46,040 Speaker 3: Yeah. What about her do you like? 876 00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:49,920 Speaker 1: I mean she kind of feels like a sister or 877 00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:53,680 Speaker 1: something to me, Like I explained it, like she's enough hippie, 878 00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:58,759 Speaker 1: she's enough like Appalachin, like angel vibes, but got an edge. 879 00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:02,239 Speaker 1: I don't know, we just we write so well together. 880 00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:06,200 Speaker 1: I bet we've written fifty songs, like really really good ones, 881 00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:09,359 Speaker 1: and so I don't know. I just feel like those 882 00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:17,000 Speaker 1: those young ones that that really like speak to my heart. 883 00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:21,800 Speaker 1: I just like want to help them, but like, you know, 884 00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:23,800 Speaker 1: kind of help them and kind of gill any advice 885 00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:25,600 Speaker 1: they want or write with them or who. 886 00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:29,440 Speaker 3: Did that for you? Oh gosh, who comes to mind? 887 00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:29,879 Speaker 3: Who's the first? 888 00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:32,960 Speaker 1: I mean the first person I thought of was Karen. Yeah, 889 00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:37,759 Speaker 1: just like somebody that's fair child, just like always been there, 890 00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:40,400 Speaker 1: always if you. But there's also more. I mean I 891 00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:42,879 Speaker 1: remember when I was pregnant. I was gaining so much weight, 892 00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:45,800 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, and it was a new thing. And 893 00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:50,239 Speaker 1: I would text Jennifer Nettles, you know, just does your 894 00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:52,360 Speaker 1: body go back? I don't feel, you know. Or I 895 00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:54,800 Speaker 1: would text Karen, or I would text I don't know. 896 00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:57,239 Speaker 1: It's just like I feel like there's a lot of 897 00:38:57,280 --> 00:38:59,960 Speaker 1: them in country music. Miranda always but that's always like 898 00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:02,200 Speaker 1: my sister. 899 00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:06,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, not as motherly more now more a tough love, 900 00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:09,920 Speaker 2: I guess someone else. I had Laura Watkins come out 901 00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:13,239 Speaker 2: and play with us, yes, at the Rhyman and in 902 00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:15,680 Speaker 2: a different way. Lauren's like really nice but also does 903 00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:18,200 Speaker 2: not give a f It's like the best mix. 904 00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:18,600 Speaker 3: Yeah. 905 00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:21,480 Speaker 1: I love. It's confidence too, you know. It's like confidence 906 00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:23,560 Speaker 1: and what they want to say, a very clear vision. 907 00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:25,480 Speaker 1: You know, they're not going to let anybody tell them 908 00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:27,840 Speaker 1: what they want to say or what they want to 909 00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:29,160 Speaker 1: sound like. And I respect that. 910 00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:32,719 Speaker 2: I feel too that now in because there are definitely 911 00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:37,239 Speaker 2: some drawbacks to social media creating artists, but I think 912 00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:40,200 Speaker 2: one of the positives of it is a lot of 913 00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:43,760 Speaker 2: artists are who they are before an entity gets ahold 914 00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:46,200 Speaker 2: of them, and it's harder to change somebody once they 915 00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:48,520 Speaker 2: already have established who they are. 916 00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:50,719 Speaker 3: We're ten years ago, you go are so we'll to 917 00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:51,000 Speaker 3: sign you. 918 00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:53,359 Speaker 2: We're going to we're going to modify some things until 919 00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:55,360 Speaker 2: you and have you do this, and you'd be like, 920 00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:58,520 Speaker 2: all right, But now I think one of the positives 921 00:39:58,600 --> 00:39:59,919 Speaker 2: is you can kind of create your idea. 922 00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:03,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, and if they want you, they sign you, they 923 00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:04,520 Speaker 3: really can't change a lot. 924 00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:06,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, and I think. 925 00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:08,920 Speaker 2: That people who have benefited from that. I think Lauren's 926 00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:10,000 Speaker 2: a big beneficiary. 927 00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:12,400 Speaker 1: Yea right, Yeah, Lauren. That is who she is. I mean, 928 00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:14,200 Speaker 1: Lauren Watkins is and I love her too. I have 929 00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:18,280 Speaker 1: I guess two songs on her new record, I Pretend 930 00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:23,759 Speaker 1: You're Coming Home and Gallinburg we co wrote. But yeah, 931 00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:25,560 Speaker 1: I mean that's who she is. She's just that's how 932 00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:28,200 Speaker 1: she dresses, that's what she sounds like. That's she's got 933 00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:31,279 Speaker 1: amazing ideas. She's a great songwriter, confident in how she 934 00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:33,640 Speaker 1: wants them to sound. I mean, yeah, it's less work 935 00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:35,440 Speaker 1: for labels. 936 00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:37,360 Speaker 3: I guess what about Miranda? Do you guys? Are you 937 00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:38,680 Speaker 3: guys working together writing at all? 938 00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:42,239 Speaker 1: We write kind of all. I mean anytimes she's home 939 00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:45,440 Speaker 1: and in the writing zone, we write. We wrote with 940 00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:48,279 Speaker 1: Stephen Wilson Junior. Was that January? I guess it was 941 00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:52,120 Speaker 1: the last time we wrote. We always have a you know, 942 00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:55,120 Speaker 1: a text seat of a shared note. We have Miranda 943 00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:59,359 Speaker 1: Nash ideas, Annie's ideas, and it's the collaborate So it's. 944 00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:02,239 Speaker 3: Like we're always Would you guys ever do a duet 945 00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:02,840 Speaker 3: record together? 946 00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:04,560 Speaker 1: That'd be Franda? 947 00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:07,200 Speaker 3: Yeah? Or would that or would that be like the 948 00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:09,879 Speaker 3: Annie's but missing without Ange? Oh? Yeah, that's true. 949 00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:13,480 Speaker 1: I don't know. Angelina and I were talking once about 950 00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:15,520 Speaker 1: because we've written with Guy Clark a lot. It was 951 00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:18,040 Speaker 1: one of our you know, one of the best writers ever, 952 00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:20,000 Speaker 1: Like if we did a record of the songs that 953 00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:22,160 Speaker 1: we'd written with Guy, you know. So I don't think 954 00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:24,560 Speaker 1: there are any rules when you support the person. 955 00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:27,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, and again again, far less rules now that there's 956 00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:30,160 Speaker 2: an infinite amount of space to put music, yeah right, 957 00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:33,200 Speaker 2: not make music that still costs money, yeah right, but 958 00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:35,239 Speaker 2: you know, to you can. 959 00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:37,239 Speaker 3: Put as many songs as you want. Has your. 960 00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:42,880 Speaker 2: Philosophy strategy. It all changed about putting music out because 961 00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:45,040 Speaker 2: it used to be only do this here, do that there? 962 00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:46,880 Speaker 2: Or is it now just if you got it and 963 00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:47,680 Speaker 2: it feels good let's go. 964 00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:50,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I like to have a little bit 965 00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:53,399 Speaker 1: of the game plan, but there's really no predicting what's 966 00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:56,440 Speaker 1: gonna I mean. Also, thanks for playing risen Road on 967 00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:58,160 Speaker 1: your show and Amy play it on hers. I mean, 968 00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:00,600 Speaker 1: that's a big deal of me. I don't have a 969 00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:03,360 Speaker 1: label right now. I don't have I'm funding all this myself, 970 00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:06,640 Speaker 1: which is fine. I like that, but you know it, 971 00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:10,360 Speaker 1: you can't really predict what's gonna stick and what's gonna not. 972 00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:15,640 Speaker 1: You can have a plan of like whatever, but yeah, 973 00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:19,560 Speaker 1: I like the blind faith. If it feels right and 974 00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:22,680 Speaker 1: the team that you have agrees, let's just see what happens. 975 00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:24,200 Speaker 3: Do you remember your first time to Nashville when you 976 00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:24,520 Speaker 3: were a kid. 977 00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:29,040 Speaker 1: First summer in Nashville was I sang at the Tennessee 978 00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:31,800 Speaker 1: Fairest of the Fair competition. I wasn't in it. I 979 00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:33,240 Speaker 1: was the entertainment. 980 00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:34,839 Speaker 3: Well, you came here to sing for the first time, 981 00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:36,200 Speaker 3: So you actually came to Nashville to sing. 982 00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:37,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, that was the only time my dad came to 983 00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:38,440 Speaker 1: Nashville with us. 984 00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:39,240 Speaker 3: How old is alive? 985 00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:46,640 Speaker 1: I was ten or eleven, I think, and so so 986 00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:48,440 Speaker 1: then that was that, and then after that my dad 987 00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:50,520 Speaker 1: died when I was thirteen. My mom and I started 988 00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:54,120 Speaker 1: coming here soon after that. We rent like limos when 989 00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:59,279 Speaker 1: you got here, yeah, and like party really looking back, 990 00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:02,000 Speaker 1: but also she was trying to get me discovered. Which 991 00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:06,200 Speaker 1: we'd go to Broadway. That was when Broadway was way different. 992 00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:09,560 Speaker 1: It wasn't shady, it was just not I guess it was. 993 00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:15,200 Speaker 3: It was just chill. I guess it wasn't. Yeah, there 994 00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:18,920 Speaker 3: wasn't an Apple store you're saying there on Broadway, you know. 995 00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:21,680 Speaker 1: And I would just go in and be like I 996 00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:24,160 Speaker 1: would just walk up to the band and go do 997 00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:26,719 Speaker 1: you know when will I be loved e? Rocky Top 998 00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:29,640 Speaker 1: you see, and be like can you sing? I'm like yeah, 999 00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:32,480 Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, I don't think that anybody would even 1000 00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:34,279 Speaker 1: let anybody up now it's so. 1001 00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:36,200 Speaker 3: But you're a kid though, doing that right? 1002 00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:36,600 Speaker 2: Yeah? 1003 00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:39,440 Speaker 1: I was like four fourteen when I started doing that. 1004 00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:42,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, did you ever have to do that here? Like 1005 00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:45,840 Speaker 3: play at a bar for a while? 1006 00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:53,120 Speaker 1: No, not for not for long. I just kind of 1007 00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:55,960 Speaker 1: I was just laughing because I don't know how good 1008 00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:58,040 Speaker 1: I would be. I love slow songs so much. I 1009 00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:00,319 Speaker 1: don't think I could rock for three hours. That's hard. 1010 00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:02,400 Speaker 1: Those people that go dow there and sing for three hours. 1011 00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:05,839 Speaker 1: But I would get up and just do like rocky 1012 00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:08,760 Speaker 1: talk you see at Totsies. And actually that's how somebody 1013 00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:13,440 Speaker 1: ended up hearing me, and words started getting around randomly. 1014 00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:14,640 Speaker 3: Because you had sing Rocky Top. 1015 00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:29,239 Speaker 5: Yeah, the Bobby Cast will be right back. This is 1016 00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:30,240 Speaker 5: the Bobby Cast. 1017 00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:32,520 Speaker 3: What kind of kid were you at fourteen fifteen? 1018 00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:37,480 Speaker 1: I was mature, I had lost my dad, my mom 1019 00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:39,840 Speaker 1: had went a little wild. So I was trying to 1020 00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:43,680 Speaker 1: like wrangle a little bit. And I told my mom 1021 00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:48,879 Speaker 1: if she moved to Nashville from Knoxville, that we'd figure 1022 00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:52,719 Speaker 1: it out. You know, I'd make it. And so it's 1023 00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:54,520 Speaker 1: kind of a little hustler looking back. I mean, I 1024 00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:56,279 Speaker 1: was like, I will figure out a way. 1025 00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:58,200 Speaker 3: Does that make you proud of yourself? 1026 00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:01,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, it really does, especially now that I have a 1027 00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:03,640 Speaker 1: child and you look back at how young you know, 1028 00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:08,479 Speaker 1: when you go through these traumas, it's kind of like, wow, 1029 00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:11,839 Speaker 1: that's I wouldn't think I could or would be brave 1030 00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:14,640 Speaker 1: enough to even go ask somebody, hey can I sing? 1031 00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:19,319 Speaker 1: I would be too embarrassed or nervous or whatever even now, 1032 00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:20,760 Speaker 1: So what would. 1033 00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:23,160 Speaker 3: You tell that that fourteen year old. If I do 1034 00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:24,440 Speaker 3: this kind of crap in therapy, I do it all 1035 00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:28,680 Speaker 3: the time. But we like that that artist. Fourteen year old. 1036 00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:32,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I would say your dreams come true. 1037 00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:36,560 Speaker 1: I found a letter, well, it was a prayer. It 1038 00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:38,920 Speaker 1: was a few years back, and I had written it 1039 00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:42,480 Speaker 1: on on a piece of notebook paper and it fell 1040 00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:46,040 Speaker 1: down from my mom's one of her closets a few 1041 00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:49,359 Speaker 1: years back. And we've moved so many times since I've 1042 00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:54,439 Speaker 1: written this prayer. It was in two thousand and two, 1043 00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:57,000 Speaker 1: so I was fourteen, and it was before I moved 1044 00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:59,600 Speaker 1: to Nashville. And it says, Dear Lord, you have blessed 1045 00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:02,120 Speaker 1: me and every possible. Your mighty hand has guided me 1046 00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:08,160 Speaker 1: everywhere I've ever been and everywhere I'm going. Please, I 1047 00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:10,840 Speaker 1: want to do this, you know. I have it on 1048 00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:13,840 Speaker 1: my phone, but it's saying I love music more than anything. 1049 00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:15,120 Speaker 1: I know you're the only one that can give me 1050 00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:18,399 Speaker 1: the chance. I promise I'll let your light shine through 1051 00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:20,640 Speaker 1: every note I sing because you live inside of me. 1052 00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:23,600 Speaker 1: How could it not. I mean, just for fourteen year old, 1053 00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:28,880 Speaker 1: and at that point I was my mom was gone. Actually, 1054 00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:30,319 Speaker 1: my mom had kind of ran off for a while, 1055 00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:33,640 Speaker 1: so When I wrote that letter, I was fourteen, had 1056 00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:35,880 Speaker 1: lost my dad. I was living with my brother, who 1057 00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:39,960 Speaker 1: was eighteen. Anyway, I don't even remember writing that letter, 1058 00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:41,719 Speaker 1: but when I read it now, I tear up every 1059 00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:44,200 Speaker 1: time because I thought, oh my gosh, my dreams have 1060 00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:45,759 Speaker 1: come true. This is all I ever wanted to do. 1061 00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:49,040 Speaker 1: And you know, you can get hung up on oh yeah, 1062 00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:51,440 Speaker 1: but you know, if you're not selling out stadium, it's 1063 00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:53,840 Speaker 1: not success. But all I ever wanted to do is 1064 00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:55,840 Speaker 1: be on the opry. And I also get to have 1065 00:46:57,120 --> 00:47:00,880 Speaker 1: songwriting and so many more part of that dream that 1066 00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:04,120 Speaker 1: I didn't even kind of foresee at that age. So 1067 00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:06,880 Speaker 1: it's it's funny how when you look back, I'm so 1068 00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:09,359 Speaker 1: glad I have that because it reminds me that that's 1069 00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:11,600 Speaker 1: a prairie answered like hardcore. 1070 00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:12,759 Speaker 3: And you still have it. You saved it. 1071 00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:13,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, I still have a letter. 1072 00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:17,600 Speaker 2: The new single is out now Hot Rob pipe Dream 1073 00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:21,680 Speaker 2: and the new album beginning of the year. Ish when 1074 00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:23,839 Speaker 2: it comes out, let me know, we'll do something again. 1075 00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:24,799 Speaker 3: It'll be cool. 1076 00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:26,920 Speaker 2: I'll play it again, awesome, I'll play it on whatever 1077 00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:31,359 Speaker 2: platforms we have. And going out with a Little Big 1078 00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:33,720 Speaker 2: Town in September to the UK. 1079 00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:36,440 Speaker 3: To the UK. What are those shows like, well, I 1080 00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:38,680 Speaker 3: don't know yet. The UK shows in general, like you've 1081 00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:39,360 Speaker 3: played over I. 1082 00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:41,680 Speaker 1: Love oh yeah, UK shows in general, Oh my gosh, 1083 00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:44,840 Speaker 1: I love it over there. They just get me. I 1084 00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:46,840 Speaker 1: can just do acoustic things. I think I'm just going 1085 00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:50,680 Speaker 1: to have them put you know, put a piano out 1086 00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:53,160 Speaker 1: from a little big town set. I'll play guitar, maybe 1087 00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:55,160 Speaker 1: play a couple on piano, and I just don't have 1088 00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:58,240 Speaker 1: to worry about them not listening. 1089 00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:01,719 Speaker 3: Reallypectful, yeah, like grateful'skful. 1090 00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:04,040 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and they and they seem to know every 1091 00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:07,280 Speaker 1: word to everything, even like I don't really have hits 1092 00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:10,480 Speaker 1: per se, but they make you feel. 1093 00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:12,719 Speaker 3: Like you do. I guess, what's your instrument of choice 1094 00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:13,160 Speaker 3: to write on? 1095 00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:21,960 Speaker 1: I switch it up? I mean I like I like piano. Recently, 1096 00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:25,240 Speaker 1: I used to play classical piano, and I can find 1097 00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:29,320 Speaker 1: different configurations that way. I do clear carry around a 1098 00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:31,960 Speaker 1: classical guitar because I think that always makes it sound 1099 00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:34,080 Speaker 1: more what's that like, nylon string? 1100 00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:34,799 Speaker 3: Got it? Yep? 1101 00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:38,640 Speaker 1: Makes it sound more like romantic willyish. I get kind 1102 00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:41,839 Speaker 1: of bored with the acoustic guitar sometimes, just like, oh, 1103 00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:44,600 Speaker 1: I've already played a g I've already just sounds like 1104 00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:49,320 Speaker 1: so I kind of am ended up writing on different instruments. 1105 00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:50,440 Speaker 3: Just a couple more. 1106 00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:53,480 Speaker 2: But I'm just curious about because you were singing, But 1107 00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:55,359 Speaker 2: when did you start playing music? Where did that come from? 1108 00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:57,320 Speaker 2: Who said here's an instrument? Who kind of allowed that? 1109 00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:00,160 Speaker 1: That was always me? I just I felt it, oh 1110 00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:02,160 Speaker 1: so early on in my soul. 1111 00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:04,160 Speaker 3: And mom or dad didn't play music. 1112 00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:09,160 Speaker 1: You know, my dad played secretly. He was an electrician. 1113 00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:12,320 Speaker 1: It was his work, and he would practice piano, but 1114 00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:15,279 Speaker 1: he didn't want anybody to listen. He would like and 1115 00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:17,640 Speaker 1: he could play by ear. And then my papa, my 1116 00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:20,840 Speaker 1: dad's dad. His first cousin is Carl Smith, who's in 1117 00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:26,160 Speaker 1: the country'sic call Fame, Carling Carter's dad. And I'm from Maynonville, Tennessee. 1118 00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:31,040 Speaker 1: So there's like some Roy Acuff, you know, maynardal people. 1119 00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:34,160 Speaker 1: There's been a lot of Chad Atkins. So I feel 1120 00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:37,440 Speaker 1: like it's kind of in my blood for sure, through Carlsmith, 1121 00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:40,440 Speaker 1: you know, on that on my dad's side. But I 1122 00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:42,439 Speaker 1: don't know, I just always knew it. I always felt 1123 00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:44,680 Speaker 1: it so deep, and it's the only job I've ever had. 1124 00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:47,320 Speaker 1: I mean, I worked at the Smoky Mountain Barn Theater 1125 00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:49,400 Speaker 1: when I was like ten and eleven. That was my 1126 00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:51,320 Speaker 1: only like paycheck. 1127 00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:53,880 Speaker 3: What would you do there to sing? Just perform singing? 1128 00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:57,719 Speaker 3: Clog and clog? Yeah, where did you learn to clog? 1129 00:49:58,000 --> 00:49:59,439 Speaker 1: I took clogging lessons. 1130 00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:03,720 Speaker 2: From somebody in your town. It was that part of like, Okay, 1131 00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:05,560 Speaker 2: so you do music, you also have to clog or 1132 00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:07,160 Speaker 2: we like, you see somebody clogging. 1133 00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:07,880 Speaker 3: On the side of the road, You're like, I got 1134 00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:08,239 Speaker 3: to do that. 1135 00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:08,800 Speaker 4: I don't know. 1136 00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:11,200 Speaker 1: I think I just saw it and said, yes, that's 1137 00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:14,120 Speaker 1: my wife clogged. She does. I'm like, god, we should 1138 00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:14,680 Speaker 1: do routine. 1139 00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:16,920 Speaker 3: And every once in a while she'll be like, oh 1140 00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:17,680 Speaker 3: I see a routine to. 1141 00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:20,759 Speaker 1: This, and she'll start, oh my god, it's so much fun. 1142 00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:22,680 Speaker 3: It does look fun. I'm not gonna lie. 1143 00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:24,839 Speaker 1: And it's hard, honestly a little bit hard. 1144 00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:26,920 Speaker 2: I can do that about as good as I can 1145 00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:31,279 Speaker 2: match pitch. You did good self, Credit you guess. Follow 1146 00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:37,120 Speaker 2: Ashley at Ashley Monroe Music on Instagram, TikTok and check 1147 00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:38,600 Speaker 2: out the new song get ready for the new music. 1148 00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:40,759 Speaker 2: Go see her when she's touring. I'm it's super good 1149 00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:42,960 Speaker 2: to see you. I'm glad that you feel good. You 1150 00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:45,120 Speaker 2: look great, Your boots are awesome? 1151 00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:45,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you. 1152 00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:47,359 Speaker 3: Have you worn them since? 1153 00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:49,719 Speaker 1: No, but I've looked at him since and thought, where 1154 00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:50,719 Speaker 1: am I gonna wear them again? 1155 00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:53,719 Speaker 2: I do the thing where like I'll buy a nice 1156 00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:56,920 Speaker 2: shirt and I'll continue to give myself reasons this is 1157 00:50:57,000 --> 00:50:58,319 Speaker 2: not a nice enough thing to wear the shirt too, 1158 00:50:58,360 --> 00:50:59,160 Speaker 2: So then I never. 1159 00:50:59,120 --> 00:50:59,680 Speaker 3: Wear the shirt. 1160 00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:01,320 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, because it's so so so speat. 1161 00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:02,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm my god, you just got to be the 1162 00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:04,400 Speaker 2: right thing. And then two years ago by I've never 1163 00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:06,399 Speaker 2: put on the shirt. I know that's what I would 1164 00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:07,399 Speaker 2: do with Those boots are so cool. 1165 00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:08,719 Speaker 1: I know I knew they were going to be in 1166 00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:10,799 Speaker 1: the video, but it has to be a really special thing. 1167 00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:12,920 Speaker 1: I do that with clothes, and then sometimes my clothes 1168 00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:15,719 Speaker 1: max out on memories, Like I had to toss out 1169 00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:17,719 Speaker 1: a funeral dress not too long ago because of the 1170 00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:21,720 Speaker 1: memory you have Grand Finale on your that's the saddest 1171 00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:22,759 Speaker 1: you can get funeral dress. 1172 00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:23,520 Speaker 3: You're out of here. 1173 00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:26,680 Speaker 1: So that's opposite of interestress with that feeling. 1174 00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:29,279 Speaker 3: Yess guys, follow Ashley Ashley, great to see 1175 00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:33,280 Speaker 5: You, Thanks for listening to a Bobby Cast production.