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Speaker 1: have been married for a year. I have a ten

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Speaker 1: year old sister, Live, who is a very shy, quiet,

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Speaker 1: She is sassy, bunny, outgoing, but around most adults she's

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Speaker 1: certainly wouldn't say they're close by the way. This comes

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Speaker 1: from nice ad eight five eleven on the Best Redditor

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Speaker 1: Updates Separate It.

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Speaker 2: I have a feeling of where this is going. I

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Speaker 3: Should we do a conspiracy theory?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, do the little thing do it. I have a

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Speaker 2: feeling that this sister, Opie's sister isn't gonna like get

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Speaker 2: along with Opie's wife, and like either Opie's wife is

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Speaker 2: gonna be like should get along or something and then like, well,

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Speaker 2: you're not a family, Like you're not family, and it's

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Speaker 2: gonna be like what do you mean on a family?

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Speaker 1: It's like, well, you've run us the whole story.

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Speaker 2: You're a stranger who's become family.

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Speaker 1: Well, let's find out if you're right. Live hates the

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Speaker 1: movie character Crampis. When she was four, she went downstairs

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Speaker 1: We were recently staying with my family while in between places,

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Speaker 1: don't think she had bad intentions. She has a mischievous

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Speaker 1: streak and it was totally something Live's dad would do.

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Speaker 1: Maybe they're half siblings. Okay, So Zoe woke her up

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Speaker 1: going to have a huge problem. Zoe tried to say

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Speaker 1: My mom said, he is her effing dad. You aren't family.

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Speaker 1: Zoe was furious and asked if I was really not

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Speaker 1: going to defend her. I said, you are one hundred

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Speaker 1: what she meant. She said she considers her husband family,

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Speaker 1: my mom was mostly right. Live doesn't view Zoe's family

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Speaker 1: and would feel she could get back at. Zoe is

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Speaker 1: my family, but it seems weird to push her on

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Speaker 1: my family. Zoe and I are family, and my mom,

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Speaker 1: her husband, and Live are their own family. Pausing Josephine

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Speaker 1: mcdolabquis Live is ten years old. Definitely the wife is weird.

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Speaker 2: Never would that cross my mind to do to a kid.

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Speaker 1: Well, why would you try and scare a ten.

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Speaker 1: Not also not owning up to your mistake after when

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you can't really react in any type of way.

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Speaker 2: And Opie did stay like you are one hundred percent

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Speaker 1: We know she's my family. She's the most important family

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Speaker 1: Though I know that might scandalize some of you with

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Speaker 2: WHOA.

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Speaker 1: So the cramp is prank took place Friday night and

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Speaker 1: I haven't really been home since due to crazy work hours.

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Speaker 1: I got home and found Zoe hysterical. I've never seen

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Speaker 1: in and in a really mocking voice, said, it's just

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Speaker 1: Zoe was home alone and my mom's husband and some

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Speaker 1: They had ski masks and ropes, and obviously Zoe thought

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Speaker 1: she was going to die. So it seems that everyone's sexier.

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Speaker 2: That's crazy, and now you can understand why Zoe wouldn't

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Speaker 1: If this is the types of pranks that they throw,

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Speaker 1: Zoe is still the a hole for what she did

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Speaker 2: On the spectrum of a holes.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, you just took it way too far.

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Speaker 3: What kind of prank is that? That's like when the

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Speaker 1: No, what is the prank?

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Speaker 2: Have you all seen Game Night in the movie?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I was gonna say, it's kind of like New

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Speaker 2: Where were they staying. They were staying at the family's house.

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Speaker 1: Blind He said that wasn't a prank. Their only intention

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Speaker 1: Then Live popped out giggling like crazy and Zoe realized

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Speaker 1: what was going on. I don't agree with what Zoe

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Speaker 1: sadistic crap. I actually hit my stepdad, which is crazy

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Speaker 1: Screw them, and there are some comments to finish this

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Speaker 2: Yeah, now you have no ground to stand on. It's

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Speaker 2: like how old are you?

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Speaker 1: Your moral standing is gone. You're just also the a

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Speaker 1: hole here and also kind of worse. But there are

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Speaker 1: two nine one says, well, would it have been a

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Speaker 1: the hell of prank is. That's the moral of the story.

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Speaker 1: Pranks are supposed to be harmless and funny, fun for

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Speaker 1: That is not a prank. There are so many other

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Speaker 1: the end of that story. And I agree, well said

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Speaker 1: Well said commenter. Well said, boy oh boy, that was

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Speaker 1: a crazy story. Slotskinron says, everyone secks heir, but the

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Speaker 1: family is way worse. Yes, and also Opete defended the

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Speaker 1: family the first time around, and then they still felt

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Speaker 1: the need to get back so harsh, like, so aggressively

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Speaker 1: with Zoe. Josephine mcdolberqui says number one prank rule, confuse,

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Speaker 1: don't abuse. Very true. Dakota says crazy. They brought the

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Speaker 2: Messed up.

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Speaker 1: Yuck, yuck, yuck. Yeah, but that is the end of

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Speaker 1: Okay? One? That therapist is so wrong. I'm sorry. I

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we teach her. She comes back, She's like, I'm

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Speaker 2: Like, as soon as you finds out, oh I can

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Speaker 2: Updy one week later. Okay, First off, I would like

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Speaker 1: Sorry to disappoint, Well, yeah, I think it's because hurting

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Speaker 2: Yes, we were told to continue homeschooling as it's too

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Speaker 2: Well, like at this point it's a sunk cost in

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Speaker 2: And it's probably slowly integrate into society. Otherwise when's it

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Speaker 1: That's the thing. I think that people need certain levels

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Speaker 1: but still allow her some level of socialization because right

437
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Speaker 1: now it doesn't seem like she's doing any of that,

438
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Speaker 1: which in the long term.

439
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Speaker 3: You can't keep her contained for the rest of her

440
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Speaker 3: life or she's just gonna worse and worse. That was

441
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Speaker 3: with again an animal, imagine with like an infant or

442
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Speaker 3: something else like that as.

443
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Speaker 1: A place whow says I was homeschool But there are

444
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Speaker 1: extracurricular things you can do, Like homeschooling is not like

445
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Speaker 1: bad in and of itself. I think it's just making

446
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Speaker 1: sure that you're coupling that with socialization.

447
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Speaker 2: Alrighty, let's see, I once again had to leave to

448
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Speaker 2: take care of for my sick mother, which left my

449
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Speaker 2: daughter with my husband. Apparently, while I was gone, my

450
00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:04,160
Speaker 2: husband thought it was a genius idea to turn up

451
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Speaker 2: to my sister in law's house and ask for my

452
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Speaker 2: daughter to see the dog under supervision, even.

453
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Speaker 1: Though the sister in law already said I don't want

454
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Speaker 1: to ever see your daughter again.

455
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Speaker 2: Crazy. My sister in law didn't agree, but was coerced

456
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Speaker 2: by my husband. This is what I'm assuming because despite

457
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Speaker 2: what my husband says, I don't believe she would have

458
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Speaker 2: let been on board with this. My daughter started crying

459
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Speaker 2: and apologizing, claiming she felt so sad seeing the broken

460
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Speaker 2: senior pup, too scared to come close to her. My

461
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Speaker 2: husband has since decided that in the light of this,

462
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Speaker 2: my daughter deserves her esa she saw how sad it

463
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Speaker 2: was that the dog was so traumatized that it wouldn't.

464
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Speaker 1: There is a world where she was being completely truthful

465
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Speaker 1: and was actually upset by this.

466
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Speaker 4: But also you can put on a performance.

467
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Speaker 1: And be like I'm so sorry, and then so that

468
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Speaker 1: she can get her what she wants. So she can

469
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Speaker 1: get her animal. I wouldn't fully trust that she's changed

470
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Speaker 1: over one interaction with this dog.

471
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Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe you have like a road map to getting

472
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Speaker 2: this dog.

473
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Speaker 1: It's like, you know what if you show actionable change,

474
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Speaker 1: maybe you go to a shelter and you take care

475
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Speaker 1: of dogs. Yeah, you help out there. Maybe that's like

476
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Speaker 1: the job that she could get or something.

477
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Speaker 2: Did we just solve this problem? Get a job at

478
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Speaker 2: a dog shelter, then you can have all the dogs

479
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Speaker 2: you want and no roofs, no roofs. Okay. I completely

480
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Speaker 2: disagree with this stance and believe that she needs more support, therapy,

481
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Speaker 2: and a large range of resources not limited to an animal.

482
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Speaker 2: Even if my daughter is genuinely sorry, this isn't a

483
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Speaker 2: mistake that can easily be forgiven in a month. I

484
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Speaker 2: still think we should be pushing her to continue part

485
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Speaker 2: time job, something she's been beginning to do. She's been

486
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Speaker 2: sent home from the restaurant a few times already for

487
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Speaker 2: panic attacks, and has even complained to vomiting during her breaks.

488
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Speaker 2: That's tough. I told her she's welcome to search for

489
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Speaker 2: other jobs that she might find easier, which she has

490
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Speaker 2: started to do. Although it's been almost three weeks of working,

491
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Speaker 2: and I've asked her to do this a minimum of

492
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Speaker 2: two months before quitting and finding something else. She's not

493
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Speaker 2: allowed to quit unless she comes to me with a

494
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Speaker 2: different plan to pay the money back.

495
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Speaker 1: That's the only thing I maybe disagree with, just because

496
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Speaker 1: this seems like it's really impacting her. Yeah, that I

497
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Speaker 1: think is a little bit too far. I think she

498
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Speaker 1: should still get a job, but I think maybe finding

499
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Speaker 1: a job that is a little bit better suited for her,

500
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Speaker 1: especially with severe anxiety to the point where she's throwing up.

501
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Speaker 1: That's the only thing I would disagree with.

502
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Speaker 2: Put a dog on a roof and jump off. My

503
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Speaker 2: husband told me he has started the application process for

504
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Speaker 2: the essay. I was very angry and asked him to stop,

505
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Speaker 2: but he argued that he thinks he should take care

506
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Speaker 2: of her from now and quit his job while I

507
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Speaker 2: worked instead. I disagree because I'm the one who has

508
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Speaker 2: been handling it for six years, but apparently I don't

509
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Speaker 2: truly understand just how sorry she is now.

510
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Speaker 1: He's coddling her. This is crazy.

511
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Speaker 2: I do want this on record because, as many of

512
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Speaker 2: you have said, they won't give my daughter an animal

513
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Speaker 2: if they find out this. She agreed and did file

514
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Speaker 2: a report, which was totally heartbreaking for me. It really

515
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Speaker 2: hurts to have to do something like this to my daughter.

516
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Speaker 2: That is an interesting like that's an extra step, that's

517
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Speaker 2: pretty serious.

518
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Speaker 1: Like putting something on her record. Obviously we don't want

519
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Speaker 1: her to get a dog. But I think if you've

520
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Speaker 1: reached that point where the communication between you and your

521
00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:14,160
Speaker 1: husband is broken down, where you can't even agree on

522
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Speaker 1: how to parent your child's I think it might be

523
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Speaker 1: time for divorce.

524
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Speaker 2: Whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa.

525
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Speaker 1: If she's going to the point where she's not talking

526
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Speaker 1: to her husband and filing a police report on her

527
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Speaker 1: child instead of like trying to reach some sort of compromise,

528
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Speaker 1: I think that's time.

529
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Speaker 2: Nah, you got to keep talk. You haven't reached divorced

530
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Speaker 2: territory yet.

531
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Speaker 1: But she's not talking, is the thing.

532
00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:37,760
Speaker 2: My husband did find out, and we've now been arguing

533
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Speaker 2: for days. He's incredibly angry, but I'm attempting to stick

534
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Speaker 2: with this. I'm not sure how the next weeks will

535
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Speaker 2: pan out, but I will say that I'm incredibly worried

536
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Speaker 2: about the future. I have no idea what to do

537
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Speaker 2: or how to get my husband to see my side.

538
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Speaker 2: This is very concerning, but thank you all for listening

539
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Speaker 2: on Reddit and for those of you who gave advice

540
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Speaker 2: in support, I really appreciate you. Can watch us live

541
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Speaker 2: on YouTube every weekday at three.

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Speaker 1: Pm Just ta Profile have it. Kim Kwan says, I agree, Sophia.

543
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Speaker 1: I'm thinking at least trial separation. Laurie says she shouldn't

544
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Speaker 1: get a dog. The husband is an a hole and

545
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Speaker 1: Carly Ansay's juvenile records are sealed. That is a great point.

546
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Speaker 1: It wouldn't necessarily get back to a job or a college, presumably,

547
00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:19,520
Speaker 1: in which case if it wouldn't go to colleges or

548
00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:22,000
Speaker 1: wouldn't go to a job or anything, and it would

549
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Speaker 1: only prevent her from getting a dog. I think that's fair.

550
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Speaker 2: I really feel like the probation dog shelter situation is

551
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Speaker 2: totally the move.

552
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Speaker 1: I think the husband is not parenting her effectively. I

553
00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:38,760
Speaker 1: think he's falling for all her manipulation tactics. Like she's crying,

554
00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:41,160
Speaker 1: She's like, well, I didn't mean to do it. He's like, oh,

555
00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:43,600
Speaker 1: of course she didn't mean to. Look this sweet girl,

556
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Speaker 1: Kimbly Fan says Heliot Devoris. Daughter is a whole human

557
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Speaker 1: that they are jointly responsible for raising into a member

558
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Speaker 1: of society who won't harm themselves or others. He's not

559
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Speaker 1: holding his sides, so daughter is priority. Carly An says,

560
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Speaker 1: love you, Sophia, but she needs real consequences. Juvenile records

561
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Speaker 1: are sealed, it won't affect future, but she needs help. No,

562
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Speaker 1: I think that's fair. I think it's a big step

563
00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:06,639
Speaker 1: to take, only because it doesn't seem like there was

564
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:09,080
Speaker 1: any there was compromise made between the husband and wife.

565
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Speaker 1: But I think that she should be prevented from having

566
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Speaker 1: this dog for the least the time being. Michelle Anna

567
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Speaker 1: says juvenile records are only sealed to be viewed by

568
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Speaker 1: public jobs and colleges can search it whenever they want,

569
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Speaker 1: so they would be able to find this information out

570
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Speaker 1: about her. Kim really finds this. You can get certain

571
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Speaker 1: things expunged after sometimes without reoffending. But I don't know

572
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Speaker 1: about this. Should they divorce, I personally think maybe divorce.

573
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Speaker 3: I think the husband just needs to figure it out.

574
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Speaker 1: They're just so not on the same page, which is

575
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Speaker 1: a huge problem. Kelsey Hoff says, no, they can't. After

576
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Speaker 1: she turns eighteen, they won't be able to see anything.

577
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Speaker 1: Blind Pie says. Unless she wants to be a zoo

578
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Speaker 1: keeper or work with animals, it won't be relevant. Yeah, agreed,

579
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Speaker 1: that is the story. I hate my daughter, but she

580
00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:58,240
Speaker 1: hasn't done anything wrong. I know this will make me

581
00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:00,880
Speaker 1: seem bad in all, but above all, really just need

582
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:03,119
Speaker 1: a place to vent. I can't talk about it with

583
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:05,479
Speaker 1: my friends or family, nor do I really want to.

584
00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:08,320
Speaker 1: I'm twenty seven and I have a friends with benefit

585
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:10,880
Speaker 1: situation with a guy I went to college with. Let's

586
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Speaker 1: call him Mark. We were both young and not ready

587
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:16,920
Speaker 1: for a relationship. Then I got pregnant. I told Mark

588
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:20,520
Speaker 1: about it, since they wanted to discuss our options termination, adoption,

589
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:23,920
Speaker 1: or even giving him custody if he wanted to. I'd

590
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:27,760
Speaker 1: never wanted kids, so I'd be fine with any compromise.

591
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,120
Speaker 1: By the way, this comes from out of the Asylum

592
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Speaker 1: on the Arslashoky story Time subridd it. However, Mark didn't

593
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Speaker 1: take it well. I remember him insisting we could make

594
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Speaker 1: it work, especially since we were both in our last

595
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Speaker 1: year of college. He wanted to get married and for

596
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Speaker 1: us to be a family. I refused. He got his

597
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:49,879
Speaker 1: family involved. They called and texted me all the time,

598
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:53,040
Speaker 1: even showing up at my part time job. So they're

599
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:55,840
Speaker 1: just harassing this poor woman. I know I have no

600
00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:57,879
Speaker 1: one to blame but myself, but I gave up. I

601
00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:00,199
Speaker 1: had too many things going on at the time, like

602
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:03,040
Speaker 1: the loss of my mother. That's so tough.

603
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Speaker 3: This is gonna be a tough one.

604
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:05,439
Speaker 1: This is gonna be a sad story.

605
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:07,920
Speaker 3: Last one was tough, but this one's probably gonna be tough.

606
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Speaker 1: Guys, the stress with the rest of the family, and

607
00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:12,399
Speaker 1: some stuff going on with my best friend that I

608
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:16,040
Speaker 1: won't get into. I remember feeling horrible, but I relented

609
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:19,440
Speaker 1: and agreed to keep the baby, although I still refused

610
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Speaker 1: to get married to Mark. Now we have a five

611
00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:26,359
Speaker 1: year old daughter together. I'm a mess. I never wanted kids,

612
00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:30,280
Speaker 1: and although I'm trying, I can't feel any motherly love

613
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Speaker 1: for her. What makes it worse is that she's genuinely

614
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:36,760
Speaker 1: a good kid. She doesn't throw much tantrums, she's always kind,

615
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:40,040
Speaker 1: and she doesn't expect much. I feel guilty for hating her.

616
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:43,200
Speaker 1: I feel bad all the time. I only get to

617
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:45,200
Speaker 1: have her on the weekends and Mark has her every

618
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:48,360
Speaker 1: other day. But that doesn't make me feel better. She

619
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:50,560
Speaker 1: talks about wanting to see me and her dad together,

620
00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:53,360
Speaker 1: but I just can't. I screamed at her once when

621
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Speaker 1: she drew a little picture of me and Mark holding hands.

622
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:59,560
Speaker 1: I apologized after, but I still felt so guilty. I

623
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:01,800
Speaker 1: don't know what I'm doing. I just needed to write

624
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:04,120
Speaker 1: everything down and get it off my chest. I know

625
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 1: I'm a bad mother, I know, but I don't know

626
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 1: how to be better. I don't even know if I

627
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:10,400
Speaker 1: want to be better. I just want to give up

628
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:12,960
Speaker 1: my parental rights, but even the thought makes me feel

629
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:16,120
Speaker 1: even worse. I'm stuck in a hell of my own making.

630
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:18,600
Speaker 1: I know I should have fought harder and probably just

631
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:23,160
Speaker 1: terminated her. Damn me for being weak, I guess out.

632
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:27,160
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, this is really tough. I'm j Gross's

633
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:29,320
Speaker 1: get therapy. I think that's the first step. I don't know.

634
00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:32,520
Speaker 1: I think that you do have a child now, and

635
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 1: it's not her fault, and obviously you were kind of

636
00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:39,360
Speaker 1: manipulated into the situation. But I think either giving up

637
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 1: parental rights or you have to go to therapy and

638
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 1: like learn how to be a parent to this child

639
00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 1: who is here.

640
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:49,240
Speaker 3: You want what's best for your child and sometimes that

641
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:52,240
Speaker 3: could be the decision that's best for you and for them.

642
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:55,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you truly cannot parent this child effectively without

643
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:59,600
Speaker 1: you know, hurting yourself then and your daughter emotionally at least,

644
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:02,920
Speaker 1: then maybe step back. But I definitely think therapy is

645
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:07,680
Speaker 1: definitely necessary. Basically TLDR for you, Anthony, this mother was

646
00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:13,000
Speaker 1: kind of not or like bullied by the baby daddy

647
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:15,080
Speaker 1: and his family into having a kid that she did

648
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:17,800
Speaker 1: not want. And five years later they're raising the kid together,

649
00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 1: and she just doesn't feel any connection with this daughter.

650
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:23,600
Speaker 1: And she's like, she knows that she's being a bad mom,

651
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:25,200
Speaker 1: but she doesn't know how to be better, and she

652
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Speaker 1: wants to give up parental rights. And that's where we're at.

653
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:30,120
Speaker 1: Or Maria says, staying in the daughter's life is only

654
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:32,880
Speaker 1: harming the daughter. She can tell that you don't love her.

655
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:35,680
Speaker 1: XX Gloomy says, it's not about you anymore. If you

656
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 1: can't put them before yourself, give up your rights instead

657
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 1: of giving her trauma. Also, there is like a third

658
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:43,920
Speaker 1: option of giving up rights to her but still seeing

659
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:46,560
Speaker 1: her occasionally, so you're still someone in her life. But

660
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:50,720
Speaker 1: I think that if you can't effectively parent the child. Yeah,

661
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:52,040
Speaker 1: it's only gonna hurt her more.

662
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:55,320
Speaker 2: Yeah. Are they in a relationship? Are they married?

663
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:57,760
Speaker 1: They're not married. They're not they're refused to get married.

664
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Speaker 1: I think they're together ish, but I think they're more

665
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:01,880
Speaker 1: so co parents.

666
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:04,200
Speaker 2: Does she like in love with dad?

667
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 4: No?

668
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:06,960
Speaker 1: Radish says, Is it bowling or reproductive coercion?

669
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:07,440
Speaker 3: Yeah?

670
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:09,680
Speaker 1: I think it is because they all pushed her into

671
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:12,160
Speaker 1: having a child that didn't want to have. Pretty Princess says,

672
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 1: she's trying to be extra good so you can like her.

673
00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:15,960
Speaker 1: I used to do that with my mom all the time,

674
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:18,160
Speaker 1: until one day I made it up in my head

675
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 1: that I was done with it. Overroove says, yeah, that

676
00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:22,600
Speaker 1: part of her story made me sad for her daughter.

677
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:25,160
Speaker 1: Poor kid knows her mom doesn't want her and is

678
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 1: doing everything she can to appease her. Opie doesn't realize it,

679
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:32,000
Speaker 1: but she's already made a little codependent people pleaser. She

680
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:34,360
Speaker 1: better leave soon while she has time to forget the

681
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:37,120
Speaker 1: time before there's an update, these comments are too sad.

682
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:40,320
Speaker 1: There's an update seven days later. Some things have happened,

683
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 1: and I need to write them down, maybe even get

684
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:44,760
Speaker 1: some insight. I'll call my daughter Abby for the sake

685
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 1: of this post. I ended up telling Mark about my

686
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:51,320
Speaker 1: desire to change the custody agreement and maybe even removing

687
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:54,240
Speaker 1: my parental rights. Many people here agreed that it's the

688
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:56,760
Speaker 1: best choice, both for me and for Abby. He didn't

689
00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 1: take it well and actually texted me about it through

690
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:02,080
Speaker 1: the week. He insisted we could work out whatever was

691
00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:05,000
Speaker 1: bothering me. We agreed a while ago that texting is okay,

692
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:08,240
Speaker 1: but calls are for emergencies only. So when he called

693
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:10,560
Speaker 1: me on Friday evening and pleaded with me to come

694
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:13,800
Speaker 1: see Abby, I agreed, this is what I really need

695
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:16,400
Speaker 1: to talk about. I've seen Abby cry before, but this

696
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 1: was something else. She had a complete meltdown, screaming and crying.

697
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:22,640
Speaker 1: Once I got there, she just clung to my leg

698
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 1: and screamed at me not to leave her. Why did

699
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 1: I want to leave her? What did she do wrong?

700
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 1: Mark told her, which is ridiculous. He said, oh, yeah,

701
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 1: we can discuss the parental custody agreement and then use

702
00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:37,240
Speaker 1: the child to guilt her and to stang unbelievable. I

703
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:38,600
Speaker 1: don't trust him as a parent either.

704
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:41,360
Speaker 2: I feel so bad for this kid, poor daughter.

705
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:43,520
Speaker 1: Who was caught in the middle of this, I cried.

706
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:47,120
Speaker 1: I was honestly horrified with how badly she reacted. Mark's

707
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:49,120
Speaker 1: mom ended up telling Abby that I was planning on

708
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 1: leaving her and she's not going to go to my

709
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 1: house this weekend. I had to take Abby to my

710
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:56,240
Speaker 1: place sooner than expected, and Mark actually spent the night

711
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:58,600
Speaker 1: over as well. He said he's too concerned with Abby

712
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 1: and with me to leave us alone. I'm completely lost.

713
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 1: Even with the way I said that I want to

714
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 1: give up my parental rights, I just can't do it now.

715
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:08,400
Speaker 1: The image of Abbi crying and pleading with me not

716
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 1: to leave is just stuck in my mind. I feel

717
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:13,720
Speaker 1: hopeless about the entire situation. Well, this is exactly what

718
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:16,720
Speaker 1: they wanted, the other family and Mark. They wanted to

719
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 1: guilt her into staying. This is what they did the

720
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 1: first time. Currently, I'm laying with Abby on the couch

721
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:24,240
Speaker 1: and she's watching TV. She hasn't really left my side

722
00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:26,720
Speaker 1: since yesterday. I'm used to her pointing at the TV

723
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:29,560
Speaker 1: while talking about her favorite characters of whatever cartoon is on.

724
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:33,120
Speaker 1: Right now, she's just laying by my side and staying quiet.

725
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 1: I can hear Mark moving around the kitchen. He called

726
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:38,080
Speaker 1: and sick to work and seid he's staying here for

727
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:40,320
Speaker 1: the weekend. It's gonna make it worse. I have no

728
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 1: idea what to do, and I'm sorry, but I no

729
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:45,680
Speaker 1: longer want to leave Abby. That's not an option anymore.

730
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:48,520
Speaker 1: In that case, If that is not an option for

731
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:51,680
Speaker 1: Op anymore, therapy that is the only way forward. If

732
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 1: you want to stay in your kid's life, you need

733
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 1: to do some heavy, heavy therapy. And once you think

734
00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:59,440
Speaker 1: that you're ready to be an effective parent, that's when

735
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 1: you need to get by in your life.

736
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 4: Edit.

737
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 1: I'd just like to edit and ask for some suggestions

738
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 1: about online therapy. What sites do I look for that

739
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:07,960
Speaker 1: I'm sure will help me and don't cost too much.

740
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:10,800
Speaker 1: Mark is already looking to therapists for Abby in the area,

741
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:13,279
Speaker 1: but I'd like to ask for some individual therapy I

742
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:17,000
Speaker 1: could attend online. Maybe even suggestions for child therapists online

743
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:20,440
Speaker 1: in case Mark doesn't find anyone. And there are some

744
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:24,520
Speaker 1: comments to finish the story off, fish Red says gently, Op,

745
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:27,840
Speaker 1: and with sympathy for the conflicting tangle of emotions you

746
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:30,320
Speaker 1: find yourself in. I think you need to stop posting

747
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:32,279
Speaker 1: about this on Reddit, and I think you need to

748
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 1: talk to a professional asap. Blindbe says, Dad's not wrong

749
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:37,919
Speaker 1: to not leave her alone. There's too many stories about

750
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:39,719
Speaker 1: moms that go off. That's fair. You might get good

751
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:42,480
Speaker 1: advice on Reddit, but you're bound to get crappy advice too,

752
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:44,800
Speaker 1: and it's not going to be easy to discern the difference.

753
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:47,279
Speaker 1: I don't see what bearing the slings and arrows on

754
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 1: a thread like this is really going to do for you,

755
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:52,239
Speaker 1: or more importantly, for Abby. The only advice that you

756
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 1: can really be sure of this is there are professionals

757
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:57,440
Speaker 1: who will have much more wisdom and insight into this

758
00:34:57,560 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 1: than your average redditor. There are professionals will be able

759
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:02,520
Speaker 1: to get you in touch with the emotions and knowledge

760
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 1: and info that you need to get in touch with

761
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:09,200
Speaker 1: in order to process this situation much more effectively than

762
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:12,320
Speaker 1: a Reddit thread ever. Will please get genuine help, Opie.

763
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:18,880
Speaker 1: It'll suffer the slings an arrows of outrageous fortune. Definitely. Therapy,

764
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,839
Speaker 1: bugsays literally therapy. She got guilted into having and now

765
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:24,360
Speaker 1: raising a little human being. She needs to get therapy

766
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 1: on her own. She can't trust him to find a therapist. Yeah,

767
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:29,920
Speaker 1: I think going back to the point of him staying

768
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:31,920
Speaker 1: over that night while she was watching the kid. I

769
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:35,960
Speaker 1: totally understand, you know, she may have needed some oversight,

770
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:40,440
Speaker 1: especially in her state of mind. However, the dad pushed

771
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 1: her to watch the kid, so it's like he's pushing

772
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:46,400
Speaker 1: her to watch her and also is forcing her to

773
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 1: have him over as well. It's just a lot for her.

774
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 1: This is not a great situation. I think therapist is

775
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:54,480
Speaker 1: a must, but that is the end of that story.

776
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:58,959
Speaker 4: My parents took student loans in my name to buy

777
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 4: a boat, so I threatened to sue them.

778
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:04,080
Speaker 3: I guess you're getting a boat.

779
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:08,400
Speaker 4: I graduated college four years ago and I rarely speak

780
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 4: to my mother or father maybe two to three times

781
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 4: per year, and even then it's only for a few minutes.

782
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 4: They refuse to let me play sports in high school

783
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 4: or have a social life. And by the way, this

784
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:22,920
Speaker 4: comes from user am i the throw on the r

785
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 4: slash okay storytime subreddit. So they've basically cut me out

786
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:29,879
Speaker 4: of their lives since I in about seventy five other

787
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:33,760
Speaker 4: people got a city drinking ticket seven years ago in college.

788
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 4: I don't know what that is. Let me know if

789
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:37,239
Speaker 4: you know what that is. In the commons, since I

790
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 4: live about eight hundred miles away. I only go back

791
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:43,120
Speaker 4: to my hometown once a year, either for Thanksgiving or Christmas.

792
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 4: Most years I stayed with a friend or at a hotel,

793
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 4: and last year I stayed with my parents. No way,

794
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 4: and heck am I going back for either this year.

795
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:55,400
Speaker 4: Just about five months before I graduated college, my parents

796
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 4: bought a boat. I know. They got a good deal

797
00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:00,200
Speaker 4: on it, and they have used it a lot. They

798
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:01,920
Speaker 4: took it out of the water for the season in

799
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:05,440
Speaker 4: early October. I've literally never seen it in person, just

800
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 4: pictures from Facebook. Last week I had texted my father,

801
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:13,080
Speaker 4: first contact since March, and let him know I would

802
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:16,880
Speaker 4: be able to make it back for Christmas. About a

803
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:20,360
Speaker 4: minute later, he called and, over the course of five minutes,

804
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:23,799
Speaker 4: explained how he and my mother decided that since their

805
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:27,440
Speaker 4: last child was about through college, they would buy a boat.

806
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:31,160
Speaker 4: The only problem was they didn't have the twenty thousand

807
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:36,919
Speaker 4: dollars they needed to buy it. Hmmm, he said, wait

808
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 4: a minute, Yes, I do. I have a son I

809
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:40,320
Speaker 4: can exploit.

810
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 3: That's how it works.

811
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 4: What was their solution taking on a student loan in

812
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 4: my name? Of course, my mailing address was always their

813
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:53,719
Speaker 4: house through college, so I was none the wiser. Why

814
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:56,400
Speaker 4: was my dad telling me about it now, four years

815
00:37:56,440 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 4: after the fact, because they can't pay it back. They actually,

816
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 4: I've never paid any of it back. They kept putting

817
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:06,359
Speaker 4: it in forbearance, but that ran out early this year.

818
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:09,799
Speaker 4: Fast forward seven or eight missed payments later, and my

819
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:12,239
Speaker 4: dad tells me the only reason he's telling me now

820
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:14,040
Speaker 4: is because he doesn't want me to bring it up

821
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:16,440
Speaker 4: at Christmas, and he knows it's going to default in

822
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:20,319
Speaker 4: a month or two. His exact words were, quote, if

823
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:22,759
Speaker 4: you're going to make a big deal about this, it's

824
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 4: best if you don't come home this year. He also

825
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 4: said it's about twenty five grand that I would need

826
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:33,799
Speaker 4: to pay it off. I hung up, and I just

827
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:37,240
Speaker 4: sat in shock for a couple of minutes. I called

828
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:39,759
Speaker 4: my brother yesterday and told him what was happening, and

829
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 4: that I think I'm going to sue them for whatever

830
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:44,399
Speaker 4: it takes to pay off the loan. I still don't

831
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 4: know what that amount is yet. I should probably find

832
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:49,719
Speaker 4: out by next week. I'm cool with my brother and

833
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:52,720
Speaker 4: he's cool with my parents, and I'm sure he'd probably

834
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 4: talk to them, because this morning I get a text

835
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:58,360
Speaker 4: from my mom just saying, do not sue us.

836
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,279
Speaker 3: Here to you asked this bread like, Hey, bro, did

837
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:04,240
Speaker 3: mom and dad ever take a student loan.

838
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:06,360
Speaker 4: Out in your name? Yeah?

839
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:08,759
Speaker 3: Or was I just the like the black sheep here?

840
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 4: Did they do this with everybody?

841
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:10,880
Speaker 1: Or it just me?

842
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:14,800
Speaker 4: I texted her back saying she would need to immediately

843
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:18,640
Speaker 4: pay off the entire loan and show me proof. She

844
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 4: texts back that I need to grow up. Obviously. I'm

845
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:25,120
Speaker 4: not even going to respond to that. The boat is

846
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 4: probably worth half of what they paid for it by now,

847
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:30,240
Speaker 4: and with the hours they've put on it. I don't

848
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 4: know if they have the money or not to pay

849
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 4: up immediately if I sue them, but I figure I

850
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:38,400
Speaker 4: can at least garnish their wages. My other brother called

851
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 4: and asked me to hold off a few months before

852
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:42,920
Speaker 4: doing anything, and then it was crappy of them to

853
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 4: do that, but to give them a chance to start

854
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:48,440
Speaker 4: paying it off. We have an update one year later.

855
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:50,919
Speaker 3: Uh, do you think any of it's been paid off?

856
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:51,239
Speaker 2: No?

857
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:52,880
Speaker 4: I think none of it.

858
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:55,400
Speaker 3: I think they started in the beginning. They started a

859
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 3: little bit, and they're like, he'll forget about it.

860
00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:02,840
Speaker 4: Update. This update is a happy ending of sorts. Basically,

861
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:05,640
Speaker 4: what happened is that I did end up having to

862
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 4: make a police report about what happened. My parents weren't arrested,

863
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:12,360
Speaker 4: but they were charged with deceptive practice. As part of

864
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:15,719
Speaker 4: a negotiated deal, they agreed to become responsible for the debt,

865
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:19,760
Speaker 4: and they received twelve months of court supervision. The student

866
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:22,399
Speaker 4: loan company removed the loans from my name, then made

867
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:26,080
Speaker 4: it clear they planned on suing my parents and myself.

868
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 4: My parents for obvious reasons, and myself because I benefited

869
00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:35,880
Speaker 4: from the crime, which is my degree. My parents and

870
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:38,160
Speaker 4: I spoke to a lawyer who agreed that they probably

871
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:40,560
Speaker 4: could come after me for at least some of the debt.

872
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:43,640
Speaker 4: Our lawyer and their in house counsel came up with

873
00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:46,239
Speaker 4: a deal that basically said if I paid half myself,

874
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:49,080
Speaker 4: they'd forever give up their right to sue me or

875
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 4: try to collect the other half from me. I wasn't

876
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:54,240
Speaker 4: crazy about the deal, but it's cheaper than going to court,

877
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:56,840
Speaker 4: where I'd likely be found to be jointly liable with

878
00:40:56,880 --> 00:41:00,480
Speaker 4: my parents for the full twenty five thousand and turn fees.

879
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:02,759
Speaker 4: I paid my part of it three months ago, and

880
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:05,640
Speaker 4: it's like I've never had student loans, nothing on my

881
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:08,399
Speaker 4: record at all regarding it. My parents sold the boat

882
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 4: for a loss and are making payments on the remainder

883
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:14,600
Speaker 4: of the balance. They've apologized to me pretty profusely about it,

884
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:17,640
Speaker 4: and I do think they're remorseful. As a cherry on top,

885
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 4: my brother told me they opened a credit card and

886
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:22,080
Speaker 4: his name around the same time they took out.

887
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:22,800
Speaker 3: The student loans.

888
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:24,600
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00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:29,720
Speaker 4: Okay, back to the story.

892
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:31,759
Speaker 3: So he wasn't alone, like you said, I told you,

893
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:36,200
Speaker 3: I can't be the only one in this I can't.

894
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:39,160
Speaker 4: We didn't want your brother to miss out on being defrauded,

895
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:41,479
Speaker 4: so we decided to include him in some light.

896
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:43,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, everyone cuts a card fraud.

897
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:46,920
Speaker 4: He only found out about this after going to purchase

898
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:49,120
Speaker 4: a house and the loan officer asked him about it.

899
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:51,759
Speaker 4: That was paid off in full before he found out

900
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:52,120
Speaker 4: about it.

901
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:52,399
Speaker 2: Though.

902
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 4: I speak to my parents maybe once a month now

903
00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:57,440
Speaker 4: more than in the past, and our relationship is still

904
00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:01,400
Speaker 4: fairly cool, but not nearly as bad as what it was. Also,

905
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:04,600
Speaker 4: I definitely did not go to Christmas last year. I

906
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 4: think I will be going this year, though, and there's

907
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 4: an edit regarding what's going on with the joint liability.

908
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:14,360
Speaker 4: I don't understand that either. My parents paid fifty percent

909
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 4: of my rent my senior year of college. I also,

910
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:22,480
Speaker 4: unhappily while interviewing, lived with them for half of a

911
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:25,640
Speaker 4: year after school. They asked for half and wiped it

912
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:28,759
Speaker 4: off my credit forever. It's more than fifty percent of rent,

913
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:30,960
Speaker 4: but I was done with it. I had a decently

914
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:33,319
Speaker 4: paying job now and wanted to move on. I did

915
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:35,319
Speaker 4: a crappy job of wording it, but they sold the

916
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 4: boat for about nine thousand, paid to the lender, and

917
00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:40,520
Speaker 4: I paid about eight thousand, a little more than half

918
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 4: of what my rent was, and they're making payments on

919
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:46,880
Speaker 4: their eight thousand. Apologies for not being more clear, but

920
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:49,359
Speaker 4: by the way, I'll be extremely clear that you can

921
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 4: join us every weekday at three PMPST when we go

922
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:57,560
Speaker 4: live on YouTube, Facebook, TikTok, and Twitch. Just tap on

923
00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:00,560
Speaker 4: our profile and you can join the live on any

924
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 4: of those platforms, and we might even be live right now.

925
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:08,600
Speaker 4: But before you check, let's finish. I'm going no contact

926
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:11,880
Speaker 4: with these people, oh easily for years probably.

927
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:14,680
Speaker 3: Oh, and I just the fact that they were kind

928
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:21,399
Speaker 3: of like gas lamping, OP, like, don't do us, don't

929
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:24,040
Speaker 3: do this, don't Oh you're gonna get upset, don't come home,

930
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:28,160
Speaker 3: Like who were you? You're in the fault here and

931
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 3: now you're making you're bringing me down with you us suck.

932
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:33,520
Speaker 3: You're what what crappy parents?

933
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 4: That's just truly Uh. It's stories like this that sometimes

934
00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:40,880
Speaker 4: you're like, wow, I could have been I could have

935
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 4: been so it could have been so much worse.

936
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:43,239
Speaker 3: It could been so much worll that's the thing I

937
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:44,520
Speaker 3: was gonna say, you could do so much worse. I

938
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:45,759
Speaker 3: was like, oh, he could have gone. I was like,

939
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:47,239
Speaker 3: maybe he gets the boat. He does get the boat.

940
00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:48,040
Speaker 3: I done gets the boat.

941
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:50,480
Speaker 4: I'm just lucky. I'm so lucky to have had parents

942
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:53,400
Speaker 4: that like wanted me to have good credit instead of

943
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:55,800
Speaker 4: literally committing fraud against me and.

944
00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:58,720
Speaker 3: Destroying my using your name for fraud.

945
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:02,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, like, yeah, that's it's wild to me that anyone

946
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:06,360
Speaker 4: could do that. But I think, OP, I don't know

947
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:09,279
Speaker 4: if I would like give it some more time until they, like,

948
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:12,920
Speaker 4: I know, they're profusely apologizing, but actions speak louder than words.

949
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:14,360
Speaker 3: It already seems like you didn't have that close of

950
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:16,200
Speaker 3: a relationship with your parents anyway, and you were kind

951
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:19,279
Speaker 3: of just going on your own Yeah, going your own way.

952
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:22,640
Speaker 4: Sold, I wouldn't be too quick to definitely, I mean

953
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:26,799
Speaker 4: definitely don't trust them. No, there's no trust there financially,

954
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:31,840
Speaker 4: that's for sure. Anyway. Number another edit before we finish

955
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:34,480
Speaker 4: the story here. All right, maybe I should have gotten

956
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:38,360
Speaker 4: a different lawyer. I just wanted it to go away

957
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:42,279
Speaker 4: with no lawsuit. Looking like that was shortsighted. Overall, I'm

958
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:44,359
Speaker 4: okay with it, though. I never paid my parents back

959
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:46,560
Speaker 4: for the fifty percent rent in college. They were just

960
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:48,520
Speaker 4: going to let it be, and I feel like I've

961
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:51,160
Speaker 4: made up for that now. Really good advice in this comment.

962
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:53,959
Speaker 4: If you're worried about it happening to you, just don't

963
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 4: get a crappy lawyer.

964
00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:59,959
Speaker 3: Or just don't have a crappy par advice. Yeah, both

965
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 3: both ways.

966
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:03,719
Speaker 4: And you know, I wouldn't accept any apology from them

967
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:06,239
Speaker 4: until they fully reimburse you for anything that you had

968
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:08,120
Speaker 4: to pay legal fee wise, Like, yeah, the.

969
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:10,279
Speaker 3: Fact they don't understand like what they caused you and

970
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 3: all the turmoil and like, yeah, what they were doing.

971
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:14,560
Speaker 3: They're like, ah, I will be fine.

972
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:17,520
Speaker 4: You know, they've essentially completely eroded that any trust in

973
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:21,640
Speaker 4: the like father or mother and son die.

974
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:23,440
Speaker 3: I just like how all the brothers are like oh

975
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:27,120
Speaker 3: just wait wait wait wait wait yeah, like wait hold on, yeah,

976
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:28,320
Speaker 3: but that is the end of that story.

977
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:32,759
Speaker 4: My neglectful sisters treat me unfairly, so I asked for

978
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 4: a separate holiday without them.

979
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:37,640
Speaker 3: You know what, LP, you deserve this holiday? Yeah, not them?

980
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:42,040
Speaker 4: You. I female forty four, am the oldest of three girls.

981
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:45,360
Speaker 4: My parents are wonderful people that I have always loved

982
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:47,840
Speaker 4: and respected. I live an hour and a half away

983
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:51,600
Speaker 4: from my parents after a job relocation. By the way,

984
00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:55,480
Speaker 4: this comes from user competitive Dust thirteen eighty six on

985
00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:59,560
Speaker 4: the r slash Okay storytime subreddit. So I took the

986
00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:03,760
Speaker 4: opportunity to relocate for a few reasons. It's my dream job.

987
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:07,080
Speaker 4: I was going through a divorce and to distance myself

988
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:11,040
Speaker 4: from my middle sister, who is female forty. Growing up,

989
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:13,400
Speaker 4: it felt like there were two sets of parents, mine

990
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:17,240
Speaker 4: and my youngest sisters female thirty six versus the middle sister.

991
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:20,200
Speaker 4: It didn't feel as a parent until high school, and

992
00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:23,680
Speaker 4: even more so after middle sister and I were both married.

993
00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:27,440
Speaker 4: My mom has always fought middle sister's battles and claims

994
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:30,080
Speaker 4: she doesn't want to be involved in the disagreements between

995
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:33,440
Speaker 4: the three sisters. If she feels middle sister has been wronged,

996
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:37,160
Speaker 4: then youngest sister and I get scolded. If middle sister

997
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:39,560
Speaker 4: is in the wrong, Mom wants to stay out of it.

998
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:42,400
Speaker 4: I was always close to my dad, and when I

999
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:44,799
Speaker 4: would get upset over the unequal treatment, he would listen

1000
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:48,000
Speaker 4: to me vent and agreed, but didn't push back against

1001
00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 4: my mom. About two years ago, I married my wonderful

1002
00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:56,200
Speaker 4: husband Congratulations. I met him after I settled into my

1003
00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:59,640
Speaker 4: new city. We were both divorced and childless and found

1004
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:02,320
Speaker 4: the part we needed in each other. As we started

1005
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:05,000
Speaker 4: our life journey together, we found out I was pregnant.

1006
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:09,480
Speaker 4: We were beyond elated. I struggled with infertility and went

1007
00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:12,880
Speaker 4: through years of treatments with my ex. Originally, we wanted

1008
00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:15,920
Speaker 4: to have a destination wedding in our favorite vacation spot,

1009
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:18,680
Speaker 4: but the logistics with our two year old just wasn't

1010
00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:21,279
Speaker 4: appealing to me, so we planned a small wedding in

1011
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:24,800
Speaker 4: my parents' backyard with immediate family and a few close friends.

1012
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:28,440
Speaker 4: My brother in law was officiant, and my youngest sister,

1013
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:31,760
Speaker 4: his wife, was my maid of honor. I didn't ask

1014
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:34,000
Speaker 4: middle sister to be in the wedding. She was a

1015
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:38,120
Speaker 4: bridesmaid in my first wedding. Oh, looks like she wore

1016
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:39,879
Speaker 4: at her welcome after wedding number one.

1017
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:43,680
Speaker 3: Huh, probably did some bad stuff, made some bad comments.

1018
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:47,759
Speaker 4: A little context about why. From my first wedding, I

1019
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:50,719
Speaker 4: spoke with middle sister about asking youngest sister to be

1020
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:53,359
Speaker 4: my maid of honor, and she claimed she understood why,

1021
00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:56,680
Speaker 4: then proceeded to skip my bridal shower because she had

1022
00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:59,600
Speaker 4: too much schoolwork as she was living in another city

1023
00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:02,520
Speaker 4: and getting her master's and no call, no showed to

1024
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:06,120
Speaker 4: my bachelorette party. Well, I mean she's getting a master's degree.

1025
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:10,759
Speaker 3: That what's more important? Family or master's degree.

1026
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 4: Maybe don't agree to be the maid of honor if

1027
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:14,840
Speaker 4: you're focused on the master's degree.

1028
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:16,839
Speaker 3: I don't think she That's why she didn't. That's why

1029
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:18,960
Speaker 3: she Yeah, that's why she wasn't part of the stuff.

1030
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:21,560
Speaker 4: But she had already agreed. She had already agreed that.

1031
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:24,800
Speaker 4: Fast forward to wedding day. She made a big spectacle

1032
00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:27,840
Speaker 4: about how lucky I was she was there since she

1033
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:30,680
Speaker 4: had so much homework, snapped at me that I should

1034
00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:33,320
Speaker 4: have made her my matron of honor, and then stormed

1035
00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:36,400
Speaker 4: out of my reception after youngest sister didn't mention Middle

1036
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:39,320
Speaker 4: sister in her speech. The day after the wedding, Middle

1037
00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:42,560
Speaker 4: sister's husband at the time sent a seething email to

1038
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:46,239
Speaker 4: younger sister about how she intentionally chose activities from my

1039
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:49,560
Speaker 4: wedding that Middle sister wouldn't like, and how younger sister

1040
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:52,920
Speaker 4: was rude to not talk about Middle sister in the speech.

1041
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:55,760
Speaker 4: When we shared this with our parents, my mom said,

1042
00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:58,600
Speaker 4: I'm so happy that Middle Sister's husband stood up for her.

1043
00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:02,360
Speaker 4: This caused a riff between youngest sister and my parents

1044
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:06,280
Speaker 4: for months. Fast forward to my second wedding. Not asking

1045
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:08,840
Speaker 4: Middle sister to be in the wedding was her out.

1046
00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:12,000
Speaker 4: We wanted to enjoy our day, and I'm frankly tired

1047
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 4: of how our family caters to Middle Sister's moods and tantrums.

1048
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:18,120
Speaker 4: My husband and I were very intentional in our attendance.

1049
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:20,799
Speaker 4: They are the people who loved us and supported us

1050
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:24,240
Speaker 4: on our journeys to find each other through becoming parents

1051
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:28,840
Speaker 4: and celebrating the life we built together. During the rehearsal dinner,

1052
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:32,440
Speaker 4: she sat and pouted during dinner, and a guest overheard

1053
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:35,360
Speaker 4: her complaining to my mom about not being in the wedding.

1054
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:37,799
Speaker 4: As a favor to my mom, I had reached out

1055
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:40,160
Speaker 4: to Middle Sister a few times leading up to the

1056
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:43,359
Speaker 4: wedding to involve her and asked if she could keep

1057
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:45,840
Speaker 4: an eye on the kids. The morning of the wedding,

1058
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:48,680
Speaker 4: she claimed she didn't see the text to my mom

1059
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:52,080
Speaker 4: when I told her Middle Sister was unresponsive, yet it

1060
00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:53,160
Speaker 4: was marked red.

1061
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:56,359
Speaker 3: He got their literal red receipts and even know how

1062
00:49:56,480 --> 00:49:57,279
Speaker 3: red receipts were.

1063
00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:00,279
Speaker 4: So. The morning of the wedding, as I finished up

1064
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:03,080
Speaker 4: getting ready, my husband was watching the kids, and Middle

1065
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:05,879
Speaker 4: Sister shows up late. This was after my dad tried

1066
00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:07,960
Speaker 4: to convince me to have Middle Sister in the wedding

1067
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:11,200
Speaker 4: that morning and I told him why I didn't want

1068
00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:14,399
Speaker 4: her in it. It wasn't about to it wasn't about her.

1069
00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:17,400
Speaker 4: Yet I caved and she held our baby nephew, the

1070
00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:21,040
Speaker 4: mini ring bearer as she walked down the aisle At

1071
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:23,680
Speaker 4: the reception, my husband and I focused on enjoying the

1072
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:26,440
Speaker 4: night and our guests. My dad wanted to say a

1073
00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:29,080
Speaker 4: few words, and his speech was eighty percent about Middle sister,

1074
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:31,520
Speaker 4: and he even asked our friends and family to give

1075
00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:35,880
Speaker 4: Middle Sister a round of our applause for her scholastic efforts.

1076
00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:38,799
Speaker 4: I was appalled, but held it in. Many of our

1077
00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:41,520
Speaker 4: guests remarked on how odd my dad's speech was.

1078
00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:46,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what everyone said about his speech too. Sorry.

1079
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:50,200
Speaker 4: That night, I barely slept, incredibly hurt by the events

1080
00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:53,000
Speaker 4: of the day. For a month afterward, I didn't speak

1081
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Speaker 4: with my parents, and I cried to my husband about

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Speaker 4: how hurt I was and sought counseling to process the events. Eventually,

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Speaker 4: we confronted my parents and my dad got angry. My

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00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:05,879
Speaker 4: mom hushed him and asked what they could do for

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00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:09,000
Speaker 4: us to move forward. I said that we're adults, and

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00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:12,000
Speaker 4: like adults, they need to stay out of issues between

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00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:14,640
Speaker 4: us and tell Middle sisters she needs to talk to

1088
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Speaker 4: me about it now. Onto this past Thanksgiving, my husband

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Speaker 4: was working the Friday through Sunday after Thanksgiving, and my

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00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:26,760
Speaker 4: daughter and I drove up for my family's Thanksgiving dinner

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00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:29,600
Speaker 4: on that Friday, and we were both feeling a little

1092
00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:33,480
Speaker 4: under the weather. From colds, but we made the trip Nonetheless,

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00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:36,360
Speaker 4: I think we were there maybe ten minutes when Middle

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00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:39,240
Speaker 4: Sister's partner showed up with some friends. I was unaware

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00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:41,640
Speaker 4: that there would be extra people at our Thanksgiving, but

1096
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:44,640
Speaker 4: I tried to start conversations with them, and they seemed

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00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:47,800
Speaker 4: to want nothing to do with me. My Middle sister's

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00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:50,120
Speaker 4: partner used to be so much more friendly, and the

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00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:53,600
Speaker 4: longer she's with Middle sister, the more she becomes like her,

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Speaker 4: as in not saying hello when she first sees me

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00:51:56,600 --> 00:51:59,320
Speaker 4: or even asking how things are going. I always have

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00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:03,440
Speaker 4: to initiate conversation or even a basic greeting. At dinner,

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00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:06,040
Speaker 4: I felt like I didn't even exist to anyone in

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00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:10,440
Speaker 4: the room. Middle sister had to overtake every conversation, starting

1105
00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:13,440
Speaker 4: or ending with something about her. At one point, I

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00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:14,920
Speaker 4: said I was going to check on my daughter and

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Speaker 4: left the room. I went and sat on the couch,

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00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:20,200
Speaker 4: not feeling well, but knowing that I wasn't going to

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Speaker 4: stay for the rest of the weekend. My daughter was sad,

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Speaker 4: but I told her I wasn't feeling well, which was true,

1111
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Speaker 4: but I also didn't want to feel singled out. When

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00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:31,640
Speaker 4: I looked forward to spending time with my parents. I

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00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:34,040
Speaker 4: called my husband on our way home and cried to him.

1114
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Speaker 4: I also talked to my dad's sister, who has always

1115
00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:40,279
Speaker 4: supported me and has watched from Afar how unfairly I

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Speaker 3: Yeesh, the middle sister is just giving me golden child

1129
00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:27,120
Speaker 3: vibes and MEMI me and it's all about me and

1130
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:28,399
Speaker 3: doesn't care about anybody else.

1131
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:33,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, it definitely seems like very very hardcore golden child syndrome,

1132
00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:37,279
Speaker 4: where it's like, how are you doing eighty percent of

1133
00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:41,319
Speaker 4: someone's wedding speech and it's not about them? I mean

1134
00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:45,480
Speaker 4: eighty percent might be an exaggeration, but to drop that number,

1135
00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:48,480
Speaker 4: it had to have been. That's a lot.

1136
00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:52,480
Speaker 3: Of talking about let's say, oh oh oh Forgret, enough

1137
00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:54,480
Speaker 3: about middle sister, thanks for the wedding.

1138
00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:58,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, congrats. Yeah, Like it just doesn't make any sense.

1139
00:53:59,320 --> 00:53:59,960
Speaker 2: Uh.

1140
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:02,520
Speaker 4: And it also sounds like she's poisoning her, you know,

1141
00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:07,760
Speaker 4: her her toxicity towards you is leeching into the people

1142
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:11,600
Speaker 4: that's around her as well, just through like osmosis. Yeah,

1143
00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:16,239
Speaker 4: which is trash. But maybe you know, if you just

1144
00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:19,120
Speaker 4: go get your PhD, you can become the favorite child.

1145
00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:21,479
Speaker 3: It's easy, easy as that is a master.

1146
00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:22,720
Speaker 4: That master is not a PhD.

1147
00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:25,440
Speaker 3: Masters before a pH Yeah, get two PhDs.

1148
00:54:25,560 --> 00:54:27,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, so you need to get ADHD to one up

1149
00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:30,279
Speaker 4: your middle sister. No. I mean, it's just unfortunate how

1150
00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:32,120
Speaker 4: this is where it happens. Sometimes, you know, there's like

1151
00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:33,200
Speaker 4: a natural favoritism.

1152
00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:36,000
Speaker 3: It's the favorite, it's the favorite child, and they're yeah,

1153
00:54:36,160 --> 00:54:38,759
Speaker 3: it's gross. But and the thing is she's kind of

1154
00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:40,880
Speaker 3: exploiting it. The middle sister.

1155
00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:43,399
Speaker 4: Well, at least you have somebody on your side here,

1156
00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:46,080
Speaker 4: you know, like with your dad's sister, your aunt, your

1157
00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:49,440
Speaker 4: dad's sister, and your dad's kind of on your side too,

1158
00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:51,120
Speaker 4: but he just never does anything about it.

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00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:53,839
Speaker 3: That's not really your side then, I mean, he's on

1160
00:54:54,080 --> 00:54:55,080
Speaker 3: your middle sister's side.

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00:54:55,200 --> 00:55:02,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, I guess so, I guess so. Well, let's see

1162
00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:04,480
Speaker 4: how this story ends. Both of them told me that

1163
00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:06,759
Speaker 4: I need to set boundaries with my parents, and both

1164
00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:10,920
Speaker 4: strongly suggest that I set appointments with my parents and

1165
00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:14,240
Speaker 4: say that I have tried for years with middle sister,

1166
00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:18,239
Speaker 4: but I want quality time with both of you, and

1167
00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:22,239
Speaker 4: our daughter deserves the same. We deserve holidays and the

1168
00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:24,400
Speaker 4: time that we come up to visit is only to

1169
00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:27,719
Speaker 4: see you, not play second fiddle to middle sister and

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00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:30,560
Speaker 4: her kids. Am I the a hole if I ask

1171
00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:34,160
Speaker 4: my parents for separate holidays away from my middle sister?

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Speaker 3: No, you're guess what you are grown adults. You don't

1173
00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:42,280
Speaker 3: need to be there every single time for the holidays,

1174
00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:45,200
Speaker 3: maybe a day, but like you, you should bring it

1175
00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:47,279
Speaker 3: up to them. I think you can communicate that with

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00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:51,480
Speaker 3: your parents civilly, and if they don't understand, then lo

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00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:53,520
Speaker 3: and behold. You're like, all right, old, guess what that sucks?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? I mean, you know, you never have to be

1179
00:55:55,920 --> 00:55:59,759
Speaker 4: in an environment with someone you like. I mean well,

1180
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:01,799
Speaker 4: that's actually not true. Sometimes you do have to be

1181
00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:04,080
Speaker 4: in an environment with people that you actively don't like,

1182
00:56:04,120 --> 00:56:04,759
Speaker 4: and it's just.

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00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:07,879
Speaker 3: Like sometimes not the entire holiday though. I think that's

1184
00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:09,680
Speaker 3: what OP. He's trying to get a get. It's like,

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00:56:09,719 --> 00:56:11,560
Speaker 3: I don't want to do this this entire like the

1186
00:56:11,680 --> 00:56:14,239
Speaker 3: every single holiday and every single day, it's just gonna

1187
00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:15,920
Speaker 3: ruin it. It's gonna be so exhausting.

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00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:18,600
Speaker 4: Well, honestly, the Middle Sister sounds like she's on the

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00:56:18,640 --> 00:56:21,520
Speaker 4: way out. It's like everything is always like no one's

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00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:23,719
Speaker 4: ever seen. She brings people and no one says hi,

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00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:26,600
Speaker 4: no one's greeting each other. It's like it's weird. Yeah,

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00:56:26,680 --> 00:56:28,319
Speaker 4: Middle Sister doesn't feel.

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00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:31,640
Speaker 3: I guarantee the Middle Sister is gonna just once. I

1194
00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:35,080
Speaker 3: feel like, once everything settles, she'll move forward. And she's like, ah,

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00:56:35,120 --> 00:56:36,760
Speaker 3: I'm too busy, I'm the big shot.

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00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:41,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, she'll be big shot master degree. She's a problem

1197
00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:43,759
Speaker 4: who might just take care of herself. Honestly, but I

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00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:45,759
Speaker 4: also think you should maybe communicate it.

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Speaker 3: But it's on like OPI tried and no one cares

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00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:52,920
Speaker 3: or like yeah, it's I think you just gotta uh

1201
00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:56,279
Speaker 3: kind of lock in focus on you focus on your life.

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00:56:56,280 --> 00:56:59,640
Speaker 4: Don't worry about what these people who's like, you know,

1203
00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:04,560
Speaker 4: presence is a negative force in your life. It's like,

1204
00:57:04,920 --> 00:57:07,120
Speaker 4: it don't matter, it's just it is your middle sister.

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00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:08,239
Speaker 4: She's not acting like it.

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00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:11,680
Speaker 3: No. Yeah. It just reminds me of like the kid,

1207
00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:15,239
Speaker 3: like just like bumping like the smaller kid out of

1208
00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:16,600
Speaker 3: the way like me.

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00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:19,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, me, I'm radiating.

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00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:22,560
Speaker 3: Look at me, and I'm the golden child. You're like, oh,

1211
00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:24,360
Speaker 3: you're so exhausting.

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00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:31,240
Speaker 4: Yeah. I called out my niece's fiance's rude attitude. She said,

1213
00:57:31,400 --> 00:57:32,680
Speaker 4: we're playing the victim.

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Speaker 3: Uh pick a cod any cod ah, you picked the

1215
00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:38,439
Speaker 3: victim cod goodlfriend posting here.

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Speaker 4: This is going to be a bit long, so I apologize,

1217
00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:44,640
Speaker 4: but my boyfriend and I really need some outside thoughts

1218
00:57:44,680 --> 00:57:48,040
Speaker 4: on this situation. I female twenty two and my boyfriend,

1219
00:57:48,080 --> 00:57:50,640
Speaker 4: male twenty three recently have been having issues with my

1220
00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:54,680
Speaker 4: niece's fiance. So is that like your nephew in law? Hmm.

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Speaker 4: It all started on the day before Thanksgiving when bringing

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00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:00,840
Speaker 4: the turkey to their place since we were going to

1223
00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:03,160
Speaker 4: eat there on Thanksgiving. By the way, this comes from

1224
00:58:03,240 --> 00:58:07,400
Speaker 4: user kai Elaijah on the r slash okay, storytime Subreddit.

1225
00:58:07,800 --> 00:58:11,000
Speaker 4: So for some context, we don't have a kitchen easily

1226
00:58:11,040 --> 00:58:14,280
Speaker 4: accessible at the moment, so my niece offers their place

1227
00:58:14,360 --> 00:58:16,400
Speaker 4: up for us to cook, and we always clean up

1228
00:58:16,440 --> 00:58:19,960
Speaker 4: after ourselves. This wasn't our first time over while cooking either.

1229
00:58:20,520 --> 00:58:22,720
Speaker 4: We've been over a handful of times, whether that's to

1230
00:58:22,760 --> 00:58:26,280
Speaker 4: cook or to just hang out. My niece's fiance is

1231
00:58:26,320 --> 00:58:28,520
Speaker 4: distant and doesn't really talk to my boyfriend and I

1232
00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:31,479
Speaker 4: all that much whenever we go over. That's just how

1233
00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:36,280
Speaker 4: she is. However, she constantly makes conversation with us about

1234
00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:39,720
Speaker 4: how she feels like everyone hates her and is out

1235
00:58:39,760 --> 00:58:43,000
Speaker 4: to get her, along with openly talking about how she

1236
00:58:43,080 --> 00:58:47,360
Speaker 4: can't eat things because of her eating disorder. This isn't diagnosed,

1237
00:58:47,520 --> 00:58:51,320
Speaker 4: but this becomes relevant later, but also talks about how

1238
00:58:51,320 --> 00:58:56,080
Speaker 4: she only eats certain things. Anyways, we're bringing the turkey,

1239
00:58:56,120 --> 00:58:58,960
Speaker 4: and as soon as my nieces fiance comes out of

1240
00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:02,360
Speaker 4: the room, she's says in a cold tone, are you

1241
00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:04,760
Speaker 4: guys enjoying making a mess out of my kitchen?

1242
00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:09,160
Speaker 3: You're making a mess out of my kitchen, to which.

1243
00:59:08,960 --> 00:59:12,680
Speaker 4: I reply coldly as well, Yeah, you act like we

1244
00:59:12,720 --> 00:59:16,880
Speaker 4: don't clean up after ourselves. She then goes quiet and

1245
00:59:17,040 --> 00:59:19,600
Speaker 4: her and my niece leave to go shopping for stuff,

1246
00:59:19,840 --> 00:59:22,280
Speaker 4: and that's the end of that. We felt a little

1247
00:59:22,280 --> 00:59:25,240
Speaker 4: off about the situation, but haven't had enough interactions to

1248
00:59:25,360 --> 00:59:27,160
Speaker 4: know when we should bring it up to her, as

1249
00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:29,800
Speaker 4: she always stays away from us whenever we go over.

1250
00:59:30,360 --> 00:59:32,960
Speaker 4: Fast forward to the fifth of this month and we

1251
00:59:33,080 --> 00:59:36,320
Speaker 4: all hang out and my niece's fiance brings up all

1252
00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:39,600
Speaker 4: her issues that she's having with getting diagnosed for everything

1253
00:59:39,680 --> 00:59:43,160
Speaker 4: she thinks she has, in which she tells us her

1254
00:59:43,200 --> 00:59:46,600
Speaker 4: therapist won't let her see someone to get diagnosed until

1255
00:59:46,640 --> 00:59:51,200
Speaker 4: she's sober from the Devil's lettus until February of next year,

1256
00:59:51,360 --> 00:59:53,480
Speaker 4: which is hard. But she goes on to say that

1257
00:59:54,520 --> 00:59:57,120
Speaker 4: and I tried explaining it's not and that people can

1258
00:59:57,160 --> 01:00:02,320
Speaker 4: form an emotional dependence on it, but that's just you're wrong.

1259
01:00:03,160 --> 01:00:04,280
Speaker 3: Who's wrong? Oh you're wrong.

1260
01:00:04,440 --> 01:00:07,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, Oh he's wrong. You can It's I mean, it's

1261
01:00:07,480 --> 01:00:08,560
Speaker 4: different for everybody.

1262
01:00:08,880 --> 01:00:09,840
Speaker 3: It is different for everyone.

1263
01:00:10,280 --> 01:00:14,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it's that's an absurd thing to kind of say,

1264
01:00:14,680 --> 01:00:16,480
Speaker 4: but I digress.

1265
01:00:17,840 --> 01:00:17,920
Speaker 3: Uh.

1266
01:00:18,040 --> 01:00:20,320
Speaker 4: We then get news that she's going to hang out

1267
01:00:20,360 --> 01:00:23,160
Speaker 4: with one of her friends slash coworkers across town and

1268
01:00:23,240 --> 01:00:26,600
Speaker 4: we're invited last minute at seven pm and didn't know

1269
01:00:26,760 --> 01:00:28,920
Speaker 4: when we were going to be back home. We were

1270
01:00:28,920 --> 01:00:31,760
Speaker 4: promised to ride home after the hangout, and we were

1271
01:00:31,840 --> 01:00:34,320
Speaker 4: okay with that. We all go to the hangout and

1272
01:00:34,360 --> 01:00:37,680
Speaker 4: my niece's fiance and her friend slash coworker go off

1273
01:00:37,720 --> 01:00:40,680
Speaker 4: on their own while my niece, boyfriend and I go

1274
01:00:40,800 --> 01:00:43,760
Speaker 4: our own separate ways. My niece then gets a text

1275
01:00:43,760 --> 01:00:46,640
Speaker 4: from her fiance asking if I can drive us home

1276
01:00:46,920 --> 01:00:50,400
Speaker 4: because she was going to smoke with her friend slash coworker.

1277
01:00:51,040 --> 01:00:53,040
Speaker 4: Of course, I don't want to say no and leave

1278
01:00:53,120 --> 01:00:55,760
Speaker 4: us all stranded, as my boyfriend doesn't have a valid

1279
01:00:55,760 --> 01:00:58,600
Speaker 4: state driver's license and neither does my niece, so I

1280
01:00:58,680 --> 01:01:01,360
Speaker 4: say yes. Even though my boyfriend and I planned on

1281
01:01:01,520 --> 01:01:04,480
Speaker 4: having a ride home, we don't have a car at

1282
01:01:04,520 --> 01:01:06,640
Speaker 4: the moment, so this was really important to us that

1283
01:01:06,680 --> 01:01:09,080
Speaker 4: we had to ride home. I end up driving us

1284
01:01:09,200 --> 01:01:13,440
Speaker 4: all home around ten or eleven PM, and luckily my

1285
01:01:13,480 --> 01:01:16,280
Speaker 4: mom picked my boyfriend and I up. That's the end

1286
01:01:16,280 --> 01:01:18,720
Speaker 4: of that. My boyfriend and I came home a little

1287
01:01:18,760 --> 01:01:20,800
Speaker 4: uneasy about the whole thing, as we felt a little

1288
01:01:20,800 --> 01:01:23,440
Speaker 4: disrespected that it was put on me to drive us home.

1289
01:01:23,520 --> 01:01:25,680
Speaker 4: Because she wanted to just do her own thing.

1290
01:01:25,800 --> 01:01:27,200
Speaker 3: Nah, I'm gonna do my own thing.

1291
01:01:27,720 --> 01:01:31,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, she really. She hits you with the disrespectful Miles Morales.

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Speaker 4: A couple days after, she posts something on her Instagram

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Speaker 4: that's funny and basically implies that her stomach hurts, to

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Speaker 4: which I reply, it's because all you eat is cheesy

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Speaker 4: roll ups, mac and cheese and pizza, trying to make

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Speaker 4: a funny joke, of course, to which she replies, i'd

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Speaker 4: really appreciate if you didn't joke about my ED. I

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Speaker 4: spent my whole life being bullied for it. It's a

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Speaker 4: touchy subject.

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Speaker 3: I feel like this is just a very big miscommunication

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Speaker 3: thing that just.

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Speaker 4: Sounded like it whiffed on both parties.

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Speaker 4: Okay, back to the story, mind you, Almost every conversation

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Speaker 4: we've had with her, she's brought up her ED in

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Speaker 4: one way or another. And I thought it was okay

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Speaker 4: to just talk about the foods that she ate. I

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Speaker 4: don't think that I brought up her ED in that,

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Speaker 4: but she thought otherwise. I then replied with didn't realize

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Speaker 4: it would strike a nerve. I apologize and won't make jokes.

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Speaker 4: I'd appreciate it if you didn't also make comments about

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Speaker 4: it as much to my boyfriend and I as well.

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Speaker 4: Then it makes it seem like it's easy to talk about.

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Speaker 4: I'm sorry I got the wrong message. You're also not

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Speaker 4: the only one who has struggled with an ED, so

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Speaker 4: please be mindful. She never replied after that, but told

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Speaker 4: my niece about the whole situation. She then thought that

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Speaker 4: my boyfriend and I were posting indirectly at her, and

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Speaker 4: had my niece text my boyfriend about it and essentially

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Speaker 4: schedule a phone call to talk about it. That's that's

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Speaker 4: not exhausting.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah.

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Speaker 4: We wait a couple hours and get no so call,

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Speaker 4: to which I text her and ask if we're going

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Speaker 4: to call, and she says she was just overthinking about

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Speaker 4: the whole thing. I then tell her that I needed

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Speaker 4: to get some things off of my chest about her

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Speaker 4: fiance and said that if her fiance would like to listen,

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Speaker 4: she can because it's about her, and my niece agrees,

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Speaker 4: and so does her fiance. My niece says she'll listen,

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Speaker 4: and so will her fiance. Though I wanted a conversation

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Speaker 4: to get some input, they both decided that listening was

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Speaker 4: the best choice. We call and I start off by

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Speaker 4: apologizing for not bringing this stuff up sooner because I

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Speaker 4: know it sucks dwelling on the past, but mentioned that

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Speaker 4: I didn't know how to go about having the conversation

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Speaker 4: and am profusely apologizing for it. I talk about how

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Speaker 4: my boyfriend and I feel unwelcome due to the snide

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Speaker 4: comment the day before Thanksgiving, as it wasn't the first

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Speaker 4: one that happened, and it was just overall rude and disrespectful.

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Speaker 4: We've hand cleaned all the dishes we've used, even though

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Speaker 4: they have a dishwasher, and put everything away as it

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Speaker 4: was before, so we weren't understanding where that comment came from.

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Speaker 4: My niece is just listening, and I assumed her fiance too.

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Speaker 4: I then go on to talk about the ride situation

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Speaker 4: from the fifth and how that was also a little

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Speaker 4: rude and kind of out of nowhere to rely on

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Speaker 4: me for a ride without having a plan for my

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Speaker 4: boyfriend and I to get home safe. After my spiel,

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Speaker 4: I say, and my last thing, and my niece's fiance

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Speaker 4: screams oh my god, is she done playing the victim,

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Speaker 4: to which I say, okay, making this quick and talk

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Speaker 4: about how I didn't bring up her ed and only

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Speaker 4: the food she ate, which yes, go hand in hand.

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Speaker 4: But the words ed never appeared in the first message

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Speaker 4: I said. But by the way, you can send us

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Speaker 4: a first message, a second message of a hundred messages

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Speaker 4: every weekday at three pm PST when we go live

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Speaker 4: on YouTube.

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Speaker 3: Facebook, TikTok, and Twitch.

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Speaker 4: All you gotta do is tap our profile on any

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Speaker 4: one of those platforms and you're in the live.

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Speaker 3: Easy.

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Speaker 4: You could even go check for live right now, but

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Speaker 4: I suggest you wait until the end of the story.

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Speaker 3: We probably are.

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Speaker 4: This is you know, it's always tricky when somebody has

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Speaker 4: like you know, clearly they have an eating disorder, they

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Speaker 4: have something that's like you know, but they're.

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Speaker 3: Very real things and you want to be respectful to

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Speaker 3: the highest degree. But when it's like this, it's just like,

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Speaker 3: it's kind of like walking on eggshells.

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Speaker 4: It is exactly like that, and I might catch.

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Speaker 3: Foh, don't say that, don't say walking on eggshells, because

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Speaker 3: they might they might bring up something exactly I might

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Speaker 3: catch Ope, I'm not OPI the niece, Yeah, the centerfie.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 4: So she then starts screaming at me over the phone

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Speaker 4: about how I'm bringing up stuff from the past and

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Speaker 4: I don't get to do that and she's not dealing

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Speaker 4: with it, which in turn has my niece tell me

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Speaker 4: she's going to go and say she loves me, and

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Speaker 4: that's the end of the phone call. So am I

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Speaker 4: the a hole for saying any of this? I'm sorry

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Speaker 4: this is long, but my boyfriend and I need some advice.

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