1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:05,279 Speaker 1: Fifth generation warfare is being weaponized and used against you. 2 00:00:05,320 --> 00:00:08,680 Speaker 1: Now if that sounds scary, well it is. There is 3 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 1: a new tactic that's being deployed against you, against us, 4 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:15,680 Speaker 1: and you know it, you can feel it, but you 5 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:17,800 Speaker 1: can't quite put your finger on it. And this is 6 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:21,320 Speaker 1: being done on purpose. I am sitting down with doctor 7 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:24,279 Speaker 1: Robert Malone in one of the best interviews that I 8 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 1: have had. Super informative and it's super important. We talk 9 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 1: about what fifth generation warfare is, where it got started, 10 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 1: how it evolved from first, second, third, fourth, and fifth, 11 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 1: lots of examples of how it's being used. We start 12 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 1: talking about the sovereignty. Can you be sovereign in a 13 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:45,199 Speaker 1: world where this is being deployed against you? We talk 14 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 1: about how to defend ourselves against this, what some of 15 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:52,839 Speaker 1: these covert topics are, like limited hangout and then we 16 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 1: talk about, like I said, how to defend ourselves, how 17 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 1: to push back, how to ultimately win. I mean, this 18 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 1: was an amazing conversation and it's one you don't want 19 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 1: to miss. So Le'squad just jump right in with doctor 20 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:06,839 Speaker 1: Robert Malone. Doctor Malone, thank you so much for joining 21 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:08,320 Speaker 1: me today. It's a pleasure to have you in the 22 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 1: studio and I can't wait to dig in. You're looking 23 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 1: You're looking great in your brand new studio. So you know, 24 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:16,760 Speaker 1: I've been following your work for a long time, A big, 25 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:21,320 Speaker 1: big fan of your work. I really like the approach. 26 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 1: It's a it's like an it's a common sense approach 27 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 1: that should appeal to most people. I know you're kind 28 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 1: of one of those. You got thrust into the limelight 29 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 1: I think through Joe Rogan, and then you got censored 30 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 1: and you got deleted, de platformed, and so you've kind 31 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:38,120 Speaker 1: of been at the forefront of this, and so I've 32 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:40,399 Speaker 1: been following your journey. Your substack has been great. We'll 33 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 1: link to that substack down below. Every So you're a doctor, right, 34 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 1: you were the inventor of the mr Anda vaccine. But 35 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 1: the technology, the technology, the technology or not these vaccine Yeah, sorry, 36 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 1: the technology platform. But I just want to I think 37 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 1: I listened to you in some other interview where you 38 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 1: talked about your extensive career and the work that you've done. 39 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 1: And I believe that you said you maybe had interfaced 40 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 1: with some intelligence communities in the past. Maybe touch on 41 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 1: that if you have some experience in that. Yeah, So 42 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 1: you cannot be in by an offense without having touch 43 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 1: points with the intelligence community. They're all through and through it. 44 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 1: The tech that was involved in these products, injectable products 45 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 1: that we are all familiar with, was advanced the MR 46 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:38,960 Speaker 1: and A tech was advanced through major investments from DARPA. 47 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 1: DARPA is the Functional Arm for Product Development and New 48 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:47,359 Speaker 1: Technology Advancement of the CIA. That's what they do. They 49 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:50,240 Speaker 1: developed the srs of anyone. They actually did invent the Internet, 50 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:53,360 Speaker 1: and they have an investment arm called in q Tel 51 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:57,640 Speaker 1: which is funding a lot of the build out around 52 00:02:57,680 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 1: this new product. Technology were indirectly referencing because this is 53 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:07,359 Speaker 1: going to be on YouTube. And so in my case, 54 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:13,359 Speaker 1: I was brought into this bizarre world of by a 55 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 1: defense at a key point in time when it kind 56 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 1: of really jelled, and that was after the anthrax attacks, 57 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 1: you know one as well as the towers coming down, 58 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 1: and I had just launched. I'd been an academic and 59 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 1: an academic entrepreneur and had just launched a new company 60 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 1: using Norwegian capital called a Noovo. It was using a 61 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 1: different delivery technology than the positively charged fat technology that 62 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 1: we know of with these current products and planes at 63 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 1: the towers. The investors pulled back, they thought it was 64 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 1: not a good time to be investing in the United States, 65 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 1: and I was left high and dry and took a 66 00:03:57,480 --> 00:04:02,559 Speaker 1: job with a company that had just acquired the contract 67 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 1: for all bio defense products for the US military for 68 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 1: what we call advanced development, which is taking it through 69 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 1: clinical trials to licensure. So I work there as an 70 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 1: associate clinical director, which means that I basically had my 71 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 1: hands in every type of product drugs, antibodies, and vaccines 72 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 1: that had been in the pipeline for development by the 73 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 1: US Army, and that at that time was very much 74 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:43,280 Speaker 1: integrated into the intelligence community. The intelligence community is basically 75 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 1: set into most of the leadership roles all through the 76 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 1: bio defense enterprise. And prior to that, remember the bio 77 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:54,479 Speaker 1: defense enterprise as it exists right now used to be 78 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 1: the biowarfare enterprise. Just a fun little fact. The US 79 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:02,919 Speaker 1: government probably spent well. The argument has made that the 80 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:07,160 Speaker 1: US government has spent much more money on biowarfare than 81 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:10,160 Speaker 1: it is spent on nuclear warfare. Much of the modern 82 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:13,279 Speaker 1: infrastructure of biology as we know it is really the 83 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 1: consequence of massive spending by the US government in biowarfare 84 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:21,359 Speaker 1: and biowarfare technology. These are all things that I was 85 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 1: unaware of at the time. I went into that position 86 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 1: as a clinical director, and then pivoted to really changing 87 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:35,039 Speaker 1: my whole career thrust, getting out of academic discovery research 88 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 1: because it was just writing papers. You weren't ending up 89 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:42,840 Speaker 1: making products and focusing on advanced development and over time, 90 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:46,239 Speaker 1: at one point I ended up with a business partner 91 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 1: who is a retired CIA agent and retired US Army 92 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 1: colonel who had been in charge of some of the 93 00:05:54,960 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 1: major bio defense programs for the DoD and he introduced 94 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:02,920 Speaker 1: me to a variety of other people that were in 95 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 1: the intelligence community, CIA or otherwise. And this includes Michael Callaghan, 96 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 1: who is arguably our top expert I now know because 97 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 1: of Whitney Webb's reporting. Her article about Michael titled darpest 98 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 1: Man in Wuhan is a classic. I had no idea 99 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 1: of what Michael's long history was. He's just I just 100 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 1: knew him as a brilliant scientist, physician who had deep 101 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:36,040 Speaker 1: knowledge in expertise and connections in the bio defense industry. 102 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 1: I only later came to understand what his role was 103 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:45,720 Speaker 1: in gain a function, research, and all the things that 104 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 1: relate to the current threat. I also knew that he 105 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 1: was advisor to multiple presidents and that he was dropped 106 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:58,839 Speaker 1: into a variety of hot zones over time. And I 107 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:01,920 Speaker 1: first really worked with him during the Abolta outbreak, where 108 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:05,360 Speaker 1: he was stationed in Africa and at the forefront of 109 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 1: pushing forward a variety of new therapeutic products, including antibody products, 110 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 1: and as I recall, testing RAM disappear. Initially and from 111 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 1: Michael and my old business partner, I met other people 112 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 1: that are throughout this network, one of whom is currently 113 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 1: the director of the international organization called SEPI. So I've 114 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 1: continued until the last three years, and really about when 115 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 1: I started speaking out, when I went on Brett Weinstein's podcast, 116 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 1: it was actually the big transformational moment. Continued to work 117 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 1: closely with the Department of Defense, really at the intersection 118 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 1: of industry and the government, and became quite a specialist 119 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 1: in solving problems, complic problems for the government and assembling 120 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 1: teams and getting them funded to move projects forward, typically 121 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 1: in the bio defense space, but also in other biologic products. 122 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 1: So there's a short summary of my touch points. I'm 123 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 1: not Cia. I'm not trained CIA, but I've dealt with 124 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 1: these folks quite a bit and learned how to navigate 125 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 1: a world in which many of the players are trained liars. 126 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 1: And in order to do that, you have to be 127 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:35,080 Speaker 1: really adroitit at discerning the tactics that are used, like 128 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 1: limited hangouts and like a redirection and all the other 129 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 1: strategies that they use to obscure truth and redirect you 130 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:48,720 Speaker 1: away from things that they really don't want you to 131 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:52,720 Speaker 1: know about. That's great, and um, so you've been around, 132 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 1: you've navigated through this, you've worked closely with them. And 133 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 1: I think also, I mean, you're you know you're you're 134 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:02,440 Speaker 1: an academic and your clinical researcher. You've written extensively, and 135 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 1: so all of those skills also allow you to kind 136 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 1: of dig into the data, pass through the data, makes 137 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 1: sense of it, and then write about it, which I 138 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 1: think all also leads into what you're doing today, which 139 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 1: I think is great and it explains why your articles 140 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 1: that you've been putting out are so good, because that's 141 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 1: what you've been doing for so long. So I appreciate that. 142 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:22,960 Speaker 1: But there's something that really caught my eye that I 143 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 1: want to kind of dig into and it's something that 144 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 1: I think everybody feels. Maybe they don't see it, but 145 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:31,319 Speaker 1: they feel it. And again, you were a sort of 146 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 1: a victim of this. And it's something I've been talking 147 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 1: about for a long time where I believe that the 148 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:38,719 Speaker 1: next war isn't maybe a hot or kinetic war, it's 149 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 1: a war of information. And so you've been talking about 150 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 1: something called the fifth generation of warfare, which kind of 151 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:47,440 Speaker 1: echoes kind of like what I was saying. I hadn't 152 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 1: really thought about in those terms. So let's start on that. 153 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:54,320 Speaker 1: Would you define what this fifth generation warfare is so 154 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:57,679 Speaker 1: that it's not my name, by the way, it's some 155 00:09:57,720 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 1: people get confused about that. I just want to be 156 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 1: clear in their general General Flynn has a new little 157 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 1: paperback out that's really small that you can order, easy 158 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:11,680 Speaker 1: to get through, written for common lay person language, and 159 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:17,679 Speaker 1: there's also a great summary that's more academic, quite a 160 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 1: bit longer, that you can get as an ebook on 161 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:24,959 Speaker 1: Amazon called five GW. And a lot of people get confused. 162 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 1: Five GW has nothing to do with cell towers. It's 163 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 1: just an abbreviation for fifth generation warfare. It's a misnomer 164 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:34,440 Speaker 1: to call it a generation of war. It's really a 165 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:37,360 Speaker 1: gradient of war, and you can think of, for instance, 166 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 1: first Gen or that first gradient being swords and knives 167 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 1: in combat on horses, and you have battle line spears, 168 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 1: that kind of stuff, and you have centralized control and 169 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 1: you're battling over territory. Second generation is essentially the Civil 170 00:10:56,360 --> 00:11:00,120 Speaker 1: War in the United States through the First World War, 171 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 1: where you had kinetic weapons, battle lines, you still had 172 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 1: central command, you were still fighting over territory, and you 173 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 1: have propaganda, but the propaganda is not the main thrust 174 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 1: of the warfare activities. Third gen war can be thought 175 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 1: of as the innovation of the Germans in the Blitzgrieg. 176 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:19,200 Speaker 1: One of the key things the German did, and people 177 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 1: often are not aware, the Magino line in France was 178 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:28,600 Speaker 1: actually superior technically to the German Blitzgrieg forces. But what 179 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:32,200 Speaker 1: the Germans had was they allowed tactical flexibility at the 180 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 1: commander level, so you had a general strategy coming from above, 181 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:40,320 Speaker 1: but you had tactical flexibility in the field. Think Rommel. 182 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 1: So that's kind of a key characteristic of third gen 183 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:48,320 Speaker 1: warfare is you still have propaganda. For instance, the Ghost Army, 184 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 1: which is still one of the main psyops propaganda divisions 185 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:56,679 Speaker 1: of the US Army based in Port Bragg, about eight 186 00:11:56,720 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 1: hundred soldiers derived from that. So we had the Ghost 187 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 1: Army deployed to distract the Germans from the landing in Normandy. 188 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 1: That was the inflatable tanks and there was recordings of 189 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 1: artillery movements and those kinds of things that were used 190 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:18,680 Speaker 1: as part of that psyops. Fourth Gen is basically what 191 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 1: has been developed in response to the fact that we 192 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:28,560 Speaker 1: now have superpowers and really one dominant superpower currently, and 193 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 1: so it's a strategy developed for asymmetric warfare in Syria, 194 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:39,200 Speaker 1: in Afghanistan with the Taliban and of course Al Qaeda 195 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 1: as examples great examples of fourth gen warfare. I don't 196 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 1: think the US Army has won a single fourth gen conflict. 197 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:48,960 Speaker 1: In fourth gen warfare, you have even more of a 198 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 1: presence of propaganda, and the goals are still tactical control 199 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:03,680 Speaker 1: of territory, but there's an increasing thrust on propaganda and 200 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 1: the penetration of a population with ideas and use of 201 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 1: psy ops and information to convince a population that they 202 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:19,839 Speaker 1: should go along with the purposes of the aggressors or 203 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:24,720 Speaker 1: in the case of the asymmetric conflict in the case 204 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:29,080 Speaker 1: of the Gorillas, etc. But they're still battling over territory. 205 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 1: Al Qaeda was an interesting situation because with the death 206 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:37,840 Speaker 1: of Osama bin Lauden, you lost that central control and 207 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 1: what happened was that al Qaeda devolved or evolved into 208 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:47,439 Speaker 1: a completely decentralized force. So you had completely autonomous cells 209 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:52,200 Speaker 1: all over the world, acting based on general strategic objectives 210 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 1: that were coming from some vague leadership, but each was 211 00:13:56,320 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 1: fully autonomous and basically they had the message Americans wherever 212 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 1: you can. We had roadside bombs, all these kinds of things, 213 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:09,440 Speaker 1: our fifth gen warfare engagements, and you couldn't really see 214 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 1: the army, US Army, the US military, the US intelligence 215 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 1: community couldn't really tell what was the center of al 216 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 1: Qaeda because there was no center. It was whackamole. They 217 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 1: would put down this little cell or that little cell, 218 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 1: but it wouldn't extinguish the total activity. Let's take a 219 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 1: break on the fifth gen for a second. Just let 220 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:29,280 Speaker 1: me ask a couple questions in the fourth gen. So 221 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 1: the fourth gen really kind of went where third generation 222 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 1: was like, Hey, we have the battlefield, we know who 223 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:37,560 Speaker 1: the opponents, and you know, we know who's at at 224 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 1: war here the battle lines are drawn. Fourth Gen then 225 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 1: kind of went into this guerrilla type warfare. You mentioned 226 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 1: the Viet Cong, So that's kind of where we started 227 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 1: seeing this guerrilla warfare, which then kind of led into 228 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 1: the terrorism, the war on terror? Is that? Is that correct? 229 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 1: If I frame it up that way. Yeah, that's a 230 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 1: fair construction in your right. The war on terror is 231 00:14:57,800 --> 00:15:00,600 Speaker 1: part of the justification for the further development of the 232 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 1: technology that's we now call fifth GENUM. And in fifth 233 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 1: gen we start to incorporate in a in a real 234 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 1: significant way all kinds of other operational technology as opposed 235 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:18,960 Speaker 1: to kinetic weapons. So this this involves for instance, biowarfare 236 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 1: increasingly uh psyops of course, algorithmic control, information war of 237 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:31,480 Speaker 1: a variety of different types, including computational aggressive actions against 238 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:38,960 Speaker 1: computer networks, and um, many claim the current virus that's circulating, 239 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 1: economic warfare, etc. Go ahead, Yeah, um, you know, I 240 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 1: remember I remember thinking, you know, obviously we have the 241 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 1: famous President Eisenhower on his way out warning us about 242 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 1: this military industrial complex, which I think you have a 243 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 1: different viewpoint on what We'll get to that later. But um, 244 00:15:56,360 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 1: when when we had these wars, we had the Cold War, 245 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 1: The Cold War ended, and then we had you know, 246 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 1: this kind of period of peace maybe from nineteen ninety 247 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 1: to two thousand, like this ten year period of peace 248 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:10,120 Speaker 1: and probably raytheon and north of gram and they're all 249 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:11,880 Speaker 1: sitting around like, well, what are we gonna do now, right, 250 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 1: and like we had this opponent, this this the USSR, 251 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:18,200 Speaker 1: this opponent, and when it was gone, then what does 252 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 1: what does the military industrial complex do? And so then 253 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:22,120 Speaker 1: it seemed like to me and I remember going back 254 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:24,440 Speaker 1: you know, twenty however long ago, the US thirty years ago, 255 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 1: and it was like, well, what if we have this opponent, 256 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 1: we have this uh, this war with a nameless, faceless 257 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 1: group that can't be identified. Uh, we don't know who 258 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 1: they are, where they are. We really have no way 259 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 1: to beat them. And so it's like we almost have 260 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 1: like the perfect opponent for the military industrial complex, one 261 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 1: that can't ever be identified or beat. And I remember 262 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 1: thinking that back then, Um, and that's kind of what 263 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:51,760 Speaker 1: I guess kind of fits into this right and actually 264 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 1: kind of goes into this fifth It absolutely does. Uh. 265 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 1: And that's that's a good way to frame it. That's 266 00:16:57,720 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 1: that's perhaps a little more edgy paranoid conspiracy theory version. 267 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:04,320 Speaker 1: But there's merit to it. You know, just because it 268 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:09,240 Speaker 1: is you're perceiving a conspiracy doesn't mean that one doesn't exist. 269 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 1: I agree that it is very convenient. It has defined 270 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:19,720 Speaker 1: virtually the entire world's population as potential hostiles and all 271 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:22,200 Speaker 1: of us as combatants. That's another One of the key 272 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 1: characteristics of five G is that there is no distinction 273 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 1: between military combatants and non military combatants. We are all 274 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:35,679 Speaker 1: in the war. There are no boundaries, there are no 275 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:40,120 Speaker 1: rules of engagement, there are no ethics, there's nothing that's 276 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:45,879 Speaker 1: off limits. Anything goes, and it's all about control. The 277 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:49,239 Speaker 1: battlefield in five G. This is a huge difference. The 278 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:53,880 Speaker 1: battlefield in five G is no longer for physical territory. 279 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:57,439 Speaker 1: It is for your mind, your thoughts, your emotions, the 280 00:17:57,600 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 1: knowledge that you have. That is the landscape, and it 281 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:07,440 Speaker 1: is totally utilitarian. The ends justify the means. Anything goes. 282 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:12,960 Speaker 1: Lying is okay, misrepresenting, It's all for the cause. Anything 283 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:15,720 Speaker 1: is justified. Yeah. And of course that makes sense because 284 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:18,479 Speaker 1: we live in an information world today, right, and so 285 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:21,960 Speaker 1: the war's over information, not so much physical territory. What 286 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:27,440 Speaker 1: is the limited hangout? Oh, you mentioned that a couple 287 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:29,879 Speaker 1: of times. I'm not sure what that is. Yeah. So 288 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:34,879 Speaker 1: we first all learned this intelligence community language from Tricky 289 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:38,200 Speaker 1: Dick Nixon when on the tapes he discussed the modified 290 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:43,000 Speaker 1: limited hangout with Haldiman Earlikman, which was kind of a 291 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 1: fallback position. So the concept of limited hangout, this is 292 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 1: a well understood term in the intelligence community, and you 293 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:53,480 Speaker 1: can see it. Once you understand what it is, you 294 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:56,919 Speaker 1: can see it being used all the time, often in 295 00:18:57,000 --> 00:19:00,280 Speaker 1: political articles. For some reason, Politico seems to have a 296 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:06,399 Speaker 1: direct pipeline to let's say, intelligence community thought leaders. What 297 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 1: it is is that when the evidence or the information 298 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:17,800 Speaker 1: at a topic area that you're not supposed to be 299 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:24,680 Speaker 1: knowing or talking about becomes overwhelming and it's sufficiently public 300 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 1: that it can't be denied, then what's done is typically 301 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 1: to put out stories in which some of that information 302 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:40,679 Speaker 1: is disclosed in an official source as real. And what 303 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 1: happens when this is done, everybody says, good heavens, look, 304 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 1: they finally acknowledge these things that we've all known and 305 00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 1: they've been telling us were conspiracy theories. Remember the phrase 306 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 1: conspiracy theorist was injected into the popular dialogue by the 307 00:19:57,359 --> 00:20:00,320 Speaker 1: CIA as a way to cover up what happened with 308 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:03,680 Speaker 1: the Kennedy assassination. That's when it entered the dialogue in 309 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 1: the United States media. So what's done is to put 310 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 1: out a story that has enough information that's largely already 311 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:21,120 Speaker 1: known with some other information, but it distracts you from 312 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:23,879 Speaker 1: the real thing that's left that they don't want you 313 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 1: to focus on. There was a great example in a 314 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:30,360 Speaker 1: political article that Naomi Wolf and Steve Bannon got all 315 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:36,719 Speaker 1: excited about that they were finally acknowledging the weaknesses of 316 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:40,879 Speaker 1: the vaccine and talking about it as they were talking 317 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:46,480 Speaker 1: about some other things, and talking about the importance of 318 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 1: what had been done by the World Health Organization. And 319 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:52,439 Speaker 1: for me, having been deep in all the data and 320 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:55,359 Speaker 1: information and politics of what's going on with the international 321 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:58,920 Speaker 1: Health regulations and the push to get more capital for 322 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:02,879 Speaker 1: the WHO, I pointed out to Steve that this was 323 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 1: just another mode if i'd limited hangout or a limited hangout, 324 00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 1: where they were acknowledging some key things and basically setting 325 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:16,879 Speaker 1: up justification to advance logic for the international Health regulations, 326 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:21,600 Speaker 1: and this call for not only additional power for the WHO, 327 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:24,880 Speaker 1: but additional capital and that's pretty much what that's turned 328 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:28,920 Speaker 1: out to be. So there's an example. There's many examples 329 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 1: like sort of like a half truth, where you kind 330 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:32,480 Speaker 1: of throw out a little bit of bait enough for 331 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:34,200 Speaker 1: them to bite on and then they kind of overlook 332 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:37,880 Speaker 1: all the rest just so, and it's a distraction technology. 333 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 1: And there's a number of others that are like this. 334 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 1: One of the things, I mean some of them. One 335 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:47,440 Speaker 1: of them in particular is captured in the common comment 336 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:50,600 Speaker 1: when you're over the target is when the flak is hardest. 337 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 1: You can think of it as if topic areas that 338 00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 1: they don't want you to talk about or discuss are 339 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 1: surrounded by an electric fence, and as soon as you 340 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:05,600 Speaker 1: get close to those topics, you'll get a shock, you'll 341 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:09,679 Speaker 1: get fact checked, there'll be a nasty article written about you, 342 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:14,880 Speaker 1: whatever the thing is, you'll get censored. Those those are 343 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 1: all indicators that you can use to tell where indirectly, 344 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:23,560 Speaker 1: where there's topic areas that are highly sensitive. One of those, 345 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:27,159 Speaker 1: for instance, recently is Nordstream one and two and the 346 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 1: Seymour Hirsh article that was put out in which Seymour 347 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 1: Hirsch finally said the obvious that everybody has been talking 348 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 1: about and acknowledging, but no one has felt it was 349 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:41,399 Speaker 1: okay to actually say regarding the role of the United 350 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:46,440 Speaker 1: States in blowing up this gas supply for Europe and 351 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:51,440 Speaker 1: truly setting Europe into a dark winter, that was forbidden 352 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:55,120 Speaker 1: to be discussed. And yet the president himself had basically 353 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:59,200 Speaker 1: said we were going to do this if if Russians 354 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 1: invade uh and they did it, but then they acted 355 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:08,680 Speaker 1: in all the press, it was forbidden to even discuss it. So, um, 356 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:12,360 Speaker 1: we have this situation, to your point, conspiracy theory kind 357 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:15,239 Speaker 1: of thrust into the mainstream by you know, during this 358 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 1: the JFK situation, which by the way, conspiracy is real. 359 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:23,120 Speaker 1: M Sam Bankman Freed, the founder of FTX Exchange, just 360 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:26,399 Speaker 1: got an additional yesterday. I believe it was like twelve 361 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:29,600 Speaker 1: additional counts of conspiracy charge. So it's actually a thing, 362 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:33,159 Speaker 1: and it's actually illegal, and so it does happen, and 363 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:35,000 Speaker 1: then we have so then we have these half truths, 364 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:37,920 Speaker 1: these limited hangouts coming out, and then we have the 365 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 1: constant line and the constant gas lighting, which is called, 366 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:46,359 Speaker 1: to your book, is called lies my government told me. 367 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:50,280 Speaker 1: And so we have that. So the lies, the half 368 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:53,800 Speaker 1: truths and then you add in the censorship, the electric fence, 369 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:56,600 Speaker 1: so to speak, and what is that going to do 370 00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:58,720 Speaker 1: to us? Mentally? Of course we're going to lead to 371 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:03,640 Speaker 1: wild speculation, right, Like truth is found through open, honest dialogue, 372 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:06,280 Speaker 1: and so there's a saying it's as a and that's 373 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:10,600 Speaker 1: also how trust is developed, and trust exactly how trust is. 374 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 1: There's a saying that ripping out a man's tongue doesn't 375 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:16,399 Speaker 1: prove him wrong, it only proves you have something to hide. 376 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 1: So when they shut down the conversation, well, what do 377 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 1: you not want me to know? And instantly we think 378 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:24,760 Speaker 1: about that. Right, Let's think about the meaning of the 379 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:28,920 Speaker 1: term sovereignty, which is often key in many of our communities. 380 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:33,120 Speaker 1: Many of us think and value and cherish our sovereignty, 381 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:38,920 Speaker 1: our individual sovereignty, our sovereignty is a nation state. What 382 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:41,920 Speaker 1: is the meaning of the term sovereignty? Does it even 383 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:46,480 Speaker 1: have any meaning in a world in which you're having 384 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:54,160 Speaker 1: highly advanced psychops technology deployed on you to control what 385 00:24:54,240 --> 00:25:00,919 Speaker 1: you think, what you believe, what you feel. Mind is 386 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:06,720 Speaker 1: no longer your temple. You have no autonomy, you have 387 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 1: no sovereignty. The term, the concept becomes anachronistic it's completely 388 00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 1: obsolete in a world in which every single thing is weaponized. Yeah, 389 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:21,440 Speaker 1: that's true. I like to think of the word sovereignty 390 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:23,800 Speaker 1: as me being able to direct my life as I 391 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:26,679 Speaker 1: see fit. But to your point, if we can't control 392 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:30,119 Speaker 1: our own minds, if they're constantly feeding us, brainwashing us, 393 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 1: propagandianizing us, then maybe I don't even know how to 394 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:35,560 Speaker 1: direct my life that way, because I'm probably directing my 395 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:37,320 Speaker 1: life in a way they want me to go. Yeah, 396 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:40,560 Speaker 1: and you can. This is what makes the five GW, 397 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:46,440 Speaker 1: the fifth Generation Warfare battlescape so tortuous is because everything 398 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:49,640 Speaker 1: is moving and shifting. You can't be confident in anything 399 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:53,400 Speaker 1: that's under your feet. There is no solid ground. Everything 400 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:58,720 Speaker 1: is totally flexible. You have no underpinnings that you can 401 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 1: really latch onto. Everything is fluid and plastic, and you 402 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:10,600 Speaker 1: have these various strategies, particularly as you step into social media, 403 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:15,119 Speaker 1: where I assert, for instance, Twitter, all of these social 404 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:19,920 Speaker 1: media applications are weapons and they're also battlescapes that Twitter 405 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:23,119 Speaker 1: is both a battleground and a weapon. It's not really 406 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:26,200 Speaker 1: so much a business. I think Elon Musk is grappling 407 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:29,959 Speaker 1: with that fact right now. And it's actively used to 408 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:35,440 Speaker 1: control in a variety of ways everything that you think 409 00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:37,680 Speaker 1: can do if you're engaging on it. There's a saying 410 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:40,440 Speaker 1: the only way to win in fifth generation warfare is 411 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:43,200 Speaker 1: not to play. As soon as you engage in any 412 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:46,679 Speaker 1: of the public sphere, now, whether it's just listening to 413 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:54,640 Speaker 1: CNN or engaging actively on TikTok, you are involved in 414 00:26:54,760 --> 00:27:01,440 Speaker 1: a battlefield where everything is carefully crafted and managed. One 415 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:04,399 Speaker 1: of the most elegant example the cascade of events that 416 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 1: happened after the Project Veritas Visor interaction with that honeytrap 417 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:17,640 Speaker 1: of the young global director for mr Anda vaccine strategy, 418 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:21,920 Speaker 1: and to just illustrate it, and it illustrates the power 419 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:26,520 Speaker 1: that's available to these very large transnationals like Visor or 420 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:31,399 Speaker 1: black Rock or Vanguard, all these entities and the World 421 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:36,720 Speaker 1: Economic Forum of course, is that within two hours of 422 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 1: that drop, everything about that young man was scrubbed from 423 00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:47,080 Speaker 1: the Internet and rapidly got scrubbed out of the way 424 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:52,639 Speaker 1: back machine. So the wayback machine has agreements now with 425 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:57,280 Speaker 1: the US government that they will pull things off that 426 00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:01,600 Speaker 1: are sensitive according to the US government. Absolutely, and that's 427 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:03,560 Speaker 1: been going on quite a while. It happened with the 428 00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:09,919 Speaker 1: Hunter Biden laptop, and after it was determined that the 429 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:15,159 Speaker 1: Hunter Biden laptop story was Russian disinformation, all of those 430 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:19,200 Speaker 1: stories from the New York Post, etc. Were scrubbed from 431 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:23,240 Speaker 1: the way back machine. And then when it became a 432 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:27,080 Speaker 1: public knowledge that it was in fact what it was 433 00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:31,239 Speaker 1: purported to be, it was a genuine artifact, then the 434 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:36,160 Speaker 1: wayback machine got caught putting those stories back in. So 435 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:39,880 Speaker 1: in the case of Fiser, they completely scrubbed the web. 436 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:44,560 Speaker 1: They shut down any ability to interact with their websites 437 00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:49,960 Speaker 1: unless you were somebody they were following. And then a 438 00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:53,320 Speaker 1: wave of bots and shoals descended on all the social 439 00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:57,200 Speaker 1: media sites that were asserting that the young man didn't 440 00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:01,000 Speaker 1: even exist, that this was all a deep fake, and 441 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:09,840 Speaker 1: that Project Veritas had been fooled by some third party. Fortunately, 442 00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:14,520 Speaker 1: it came out very rapidly from other Fiser whistleblowers that 443 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:18,760 Speaker 1: in fact the org chart did show this young gentleman 444 00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:22,280 Speaker 1: in exactly that position of two or three down from Borla, 445 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:26,600 Speaker 1: and many on the Internet had rapidly gone and grabbed 446 00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:31,440 Speaker 1: all these artifacts of his education and prior activities, his 447 00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:37,280 Speaker 1: LinkedIn page and profile, etc. And so that could be 448 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:43,640 Speaker 1: counteracted that storyline very quickly by all these other artifacts 449 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:46,280 Speaker 1: that had already been acquired in that short period of 450 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:49,800 Speaker 1: time when Fiser was scrubbing it. Then Fiser's pr went 451 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:54,480 Speaker 1: completely silent until that Friday, as I recall, it was 452 00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:57,920 Speaker 1: before a three day weekend, when they released a press 453 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:02,760 Speaker 1: release at eight pm, so after the closing bell on 454 00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:06,400 Speaker 1: Wall Street, before a three day weekend, in which they 455 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:10,040 Speaker 1: essentially acknowledge that what the gentleman had said about gain 456 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:14,800 Speaker 1: a function research was true. That shows the Oh and 457 00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:18,440 Speaker 1: then the other thing that was lovely was The Daily Mail, 458 00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:21,440 Speaker 1: one of the largest English language publications in the world, 459 00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:25,600 Speaker 1: put out a story about this almost immediately after the 460 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:29,720 Speaker 1: Project Veritas video drop, and it was removed from the 461 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:35,760 Speaker 1: web within about ten minutes. That is power to completely 462 00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:41,160 Speaker 1: control the information stream and counteract it in almost real time. 463 00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:45,680 Speaker 1: That's fifth gen warfare, and no one is there's no 464 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:48,840 Speaker 1: way that you can trace who was responsible for that. 465 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:51,160 Speaker 1: Was at m I five, was at Feiser, was at 466 00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:56,680 Speaker 1: the US government, There's no way to know. Another key 467 00:30:56,680 --> 00:31:00,240 Speaker 1: aspect of this is, if you think about it, what 468 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:05,440 Speaker 1: have been the most authoritarian responses in terms of nation states? 469 00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:09,160 Speaker 1: Which ones seem to have been the harshest well, I 470 00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:16,000 Speaker 1: argue that it's the Five Ice Nations, this large international one, 471 00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:19,560 Speaker 1: the one of the longest lasting and most powerful intelligence 472 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:24,480 Speaker 1: consouris in the history of the world, which is Great Britain, US, Canada, 473 00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:29,080 Speaker 1: New Zealand and Australia. All of these countries have reciprocal 474 00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:32,360 Speaker 1: agreements wherein, for instance, the CIA can do stuff to 475 00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:36,040 Speaker 1: British citizens that the m I five can't. M I 476 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:40,000 Speaker 1: five can do things to American citizens that CIA can't. 477 00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:42,840 Speaker 1: And for instance, it appears that a lot of the 478 00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:46,880 Speaker 1: edits on Wikipedia that have been so aggressively promoted, just 479 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:51,200 Speaker 1: not to myself but to many others, are all coming 480 00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:56,080 Speaker 1: from a sock puppet called Philip Cross. Philip Cross somehow 481 00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:58,640 Speaker 1: posts seven days a week, twenty four hours a day 482 00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:03,960 Speaker 1: and modifies Wikipedia sites with that schedule and has been 483 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:07,440 Speaker 1: linked directly back to m I five. That's what we're 484 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:10,440 Speaker 1: dealing with. In the UK, it's the seventy seventh Brigade, 485 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:14,320 Speaker 1: which has a member of Parliament. In the US, we 486 00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:18,000 Speaker 1: have multiple psy ops teams from the US Army and 487 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:21,000 Speaker 1: we have foyed documents now that have been in the 488 00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:25,959 Speaker 1: lay press from Australia and absolutely quite a few from 489 00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:30,360 Speaker 1: Canada and the UK, including from the Nudge Unit quote 490 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:34,400 Speaker 1: unquote from the UK. Wow, this goes deep. This goes 491 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:36,240 Speaker 1: really deep, and I think it's it's easy for people 492 00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:38,000 Speaker 1: to see and back to that. I mean, I think 493 00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:41,360 Speaker 1: just today I even saw another article pop up where 494 00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:43,840 Speaker 1: fires are saying that we didn't do that sort of 495 00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:46,440 Speaker 1: a thing. And then also James O'Keefe all of a 496 00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:50,360 Speaker 1: sudden found himself ousted from the company that he founded. 497 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:53,080 Speaker 1: That's I think we're a long way from getting to 498 00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:57,640 Speaker 1: the bottom of that story. And that was a great 499 00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:03,280 Speaker 1: lesson in Another key thing that entrepreneurs need to keep 500 00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:07,719 Speaker 1: in mind is your board, particularly for nonprofits, is a 501 00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:12,320 Speaker 1: very dangerous thing, and if you don't control that board rigorously, 502 00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:16,200 Speaker 1: you're at risk. And that risk seems to manifest most 503 00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:22,160 Speaker 1: often when there's a sudden period of achievement. It's very paradoxical, 504 00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:24,200 Speaker 1: but you see it again and again and again with 505 00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:29,480 Speaker 1: these nonprofits. Yeah yeah, all right, So, um, I mean, 506 00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:32,719 Speaker 1: you've made this bigger and even maybe more scary than 507 00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:35,680 Speaker 1: I had even even originally thought. And well, we haven't 508 00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:38,800 Speaker 1: even talked about the Trusted News initiative, which is controlled 509 00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:43,240 Speaker 1: all right, let's talk about let's talk about the Trusted 510 00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:46,880 Speaker 1: News Initiative then, So the T and I was my 511 00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:51,840 Speaker 1: first insight in some have credited me with the one 512 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:54,560 Speaker 1: being the one that really brought it to common attention. 513 00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:59,320 Speaker 1: Trusted News Initiative was set up in theory to counter 514 00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:04,920 Speaker 1: Russian disinformation intrusion into elections, and in twenty nineteen it 515 00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:11,280 Speaker 1: was transformed into also focusing on those that were spreading 516 00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:16,239 Speaker 1: vaccine disinformation and causing vaccine hesitancy. Remember, all of this 517 00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:20,160 Speaker 1: propaganda and psy ops was gamed out in Event two, 518 00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:24,040 Speaker 1: a one at Johns Hopkins in what's a well known 519 00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:27,200 Speaker 1: CIA spook shop, in a series of war games that 520 00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:30,760 Speaker 1: were sponsored by here I should hit the rim shot 521 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:37,360 Speaker 1: on my roadcaster sponsored by Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation 522 00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:42,000 Speaker 1: and the World Economic Forum, and they basically pre gamed 523 00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:47,040 Speaker 1: out all of this stuff, the propaganda strategies, the authoritarian responses, 524 00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:49,719 Speaker 1: all based on the thesis that we would have a 525 00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:54,080 Speaker 1: highly lethal pathogen and a highly effective and safe vaccine. 526 00:34:55,080 --> 00:35:00,280 Speaker 1: But the Trusted News Initiative was transformed from a election 527 00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:07,080 Speaker 1: integrity to resisting vaccine disinformation and misinformation. And it is 528 00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:13,120 Speaker 1: functionally a trade organization for big tech as well as 529 00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:19,520 Speaker 1: for all corporate media, So they all belong to it. 530 00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:25,520 Speaker 1: Agency France Press, you know, Google, Yahoo, everything, they all 531 00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:29,400 Speaker 1: belong to this organization and it's laid out a series 532 00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:33,680 Speaker 1: of rules in which anything, they're the ones that originate 533 00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:38,960 Speaker 1: the logic that if somebody is speaking things which are 534 00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:43,000 Speaker 1: different from the truth being spoken by the World Health 535 00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:48,359 Speaker 1: Organization or your regional health authority in our case here 536 00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:50,640 Speaker 1: in the United States, that would be the CDC. So 537 00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:53,560 Speaker 1: if you said anything that's different from what the WHO 538 00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:56,960 Speaker 1: or the CDC says about any kind of a public 539 00:35:57,000 --> 00:36:01,360 Speaker 1: health or those medical product that they inject with a needle, 540 00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:07,280 Speaker 1: then you're deemed as a spreader of miss or disinformation, 541 00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:10,440 Speaker 1: which of course, now our Department of Homeland Security so 542 00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:15,520 Speaker 1: kindly has defined as domestic terrorism. So if you're saying 543 00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:18,680 Speaker 1: things which you're different from what the WHO or the 544 00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:23,279 Speaker 1: CDC says, you are defined now by our Department of 545 00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:29,319 Speaker 1: Homeland Security as a spreader as a domestic terrorist. In 546 00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:34,120 Speaker 1: the Trusted News Initiative, rules are that anybody who is 547 00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:40,719 Speaker 1: saying such things should be censored, de platformed, etc. But 548 00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:45,520 Speaker 1: they allow a little backdoor. Members of the TNI are 549 00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:50,879 Speaker 1: allowed to write articles that cross those lines, but they're 550 00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:55,600 Speaker 1: not allowed to syndicate them. So the Washington Post or 551 00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:57,600 Speaker 1: the New York Times can come out with a single 552 00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:00,920 Speaker 1: article like the New York Times did last spring in 553 00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:04,759 Speaker 1: which it said the CDC has become a politicized arm 554 00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:08,120 Speaker 1: of the White House and has been withholding information from 555 00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:14,520 Speaker 1: healthcare providers about the disease and the prophylactic medical product, 556 00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:19,920 Speaker 1: and and that was okay, but it was not okay 557 00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:24,000 Speaker 1: for the Washington Post to republish it, or the Des 558 00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:27,319 Speaker 1: Moines Journal or anything like that, as they usually have 559 00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:30,440 Speaker 1: done in the past. So that's the T and I 560 00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:33,439 Speaker 1: And then I can tell you that in the UK, 561 00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:37,600 Speaker 1: I was just there again two weekends ago, and gb 562 00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:40,399 Speaker 1: News is really scared right now. I think it's Mark 563 00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:44,920 Speaker 1: Stein that got booted out. And that is the consequence. 564 00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:50,640 Speaker 1: They have basically a censorship board that is semi autonomous 565 00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:53,480 Speaker 1: from the government. Used to be part of the BBC 566 00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:57,759 Speaker 1: but has been spun out, And basically they determine what 567 00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:01,120 Speaker 1: you can say and what you can't say. And if 568 00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:05,320 Speaker 1: you say things that the government or this board doesn't 569 00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:10,680 Speaker 1: want you to say, then you will be disallowed from broadcasting. 570 00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:13,919 Speaker 1: You'll lose your broadcasting license or those that say these 571 00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:18,560 Speaker 1: things will be fired. And so what this results in 572 00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:23,560 Speaker 1: is kind of a forward looking self censorship. Everybody becomes 573 00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:26,080 Speaker 1: afraid because they don't really know where the boundaries are, 574 00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:28,320 Speaker 1: but they darn well know that they don't want to 575 00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:31,799 Speaker 1: get deep platformed. Then the other thing that's going on 576 00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:37,080 Speaker 1: in all of this that gets overlooked by everybody. I 577 00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:40,080 Speaker 1: was listening to a lecture from the founder of the 578 00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:43,440 Speaker 1: Babylon b and he really wasn't even thinking about it 579 00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:48,359 Speaker 1: is that advertising has been completely weaponized. It's weaponized through 580 00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:51,359 Speaker 1: the Garm Agreement and ad Sense. So this is how 581 00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:57,680 Speaker 1: Google completely controls content. Is you cannot get advertising dollars 582 00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:03,040 Speaker 1: for your podcast or your broadcast unless you comply with 583 00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:05,960 Speaker 1: the terms and conditions of the Garment Agreement, which includes 584 00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,960 Speaker 1: many of these same terms and restrictions in terms of 585 00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:12,359 Speaker 1: what information can be discussed or not discussed. This is 586 00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:17,439 Speaker 1: why YouTube has the guardrails that it has is they 587 00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:22,000 Speaker 1: accept advertising that's come through the ad Sense channel. And 588 00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:26,560 Speaker 1: if you reach the terms of the Garm Agreement and 589 00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:32,960 Speaker 1: reach the terms of the ad Sense agreements, then you 590 00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:39,719 Speaker 1: will lose your advertising dollars. They will be withdrawn by algorithm. 591 00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:44,480 Speaker 1: That's what you're running into. That's why you're seeing these behaviors. 592 00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:48,279 Speaker 1: And the consequence, of course, is that conservative broadcasts find 593 00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:54,799 Speaker 1: themselves selling coffee, structured water, and pillows, whereas you would 594 00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:58,200 Speaker 1: think that, for instance, many conservatives are quite well off 595 00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:01,680 Speaker 1: and you would be seeing ads for Porsche's, Mercedes and 596 00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:06,920 Speaker 1: everything else. In the consumer world. Conservatives buy consumer goods also, 597 00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:10,600 Speaker 1: but it's the garment agreement and AdSense that prevents that. 598 00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:14,560 Speaker 1: Interesting and obviously, as I already said, but being a 599 00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:18,120 Speaker 1: being a YouTube creator, I'm certainly well aware of that. 600 00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:23,319 Speaker 1: And those guard those guardrails again even more now you've 601 00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:26,160 Speaker 1: you've really expanded this situation, and it sounds pretty dire. 602 00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:28,960 Speaker 1: I can understand this fifth generation warfare too. And one 603 00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:30,560 Speaker 1: of the key pieces that I kind of picked up 604 00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:34,560 Speaker 1: on is that, um you don't know where it's coming from, 605 00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:38,680 Speaker 1: who's doing it, or even why. So you feel it, 606 00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:42,200 Speaker 1: you know something's not right, you're not exactly sure why. 607 00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:47,719 Speaker 1: Um So those are key key tactical and strategic objectives 608 00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:51,719 Speaker 1: in five GW is. There is no sense central leadership 609 00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:56,319 Speaker 1: that's readily identified. It's a low energy combat unlike PSAY 610 00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:59,600 Speaker 1: kinetic weapons. You know, there's no F eighteen s or 611 00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:07,120 Speaker 1: and one tanks low energy conflict in which ideally you 612 00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:11,160 Speaker 1: have no awareness even that these ideas are being thrust 613 00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:15,960 Speaker 1: into your thoughts space, and you have no concept of 614 00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:19,400 Speaker 1: who's doing it or why. So, who is the puppet 615 00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:24,120 Speaker 1: master behind the various manipulations that we can all see 616 00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:28,839 Speaker 1: in the COVID crisis. Good luck figuring that out. Yeah, 617 00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:34,279 Speaker 1: they who who's they? Right? Yeah, exactly that's and if 618 00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:37,799 Speaker 1: you talk to anybody that's retired out of socom, you know, 619 00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:40,759 Speaker 1: special ops sports, the first thing they tell you is 620 00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:43,480 Speaker 1: you absolutely have to know who your opponent is. But 621 00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:46,279 Speaker 1: in five GW you have no idea who your opponent is. 622 00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:50,960 Speaker 1: Another thing you had talked about was this swarm consensus 623 00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:53,640 Speaker 1: and how it operates at this level of like this 624 00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:57,800 Speaker 1: virtual cast system. And I think basically what the swarm 625 00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:01,000 Speaker 1: consensus is That again and maybe kind of pours into 626 00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:03,400 Speaker 1: this point, which is, we don't know who it is. 627 00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:06,840 Speaker 1: And so now like this swarm say, well everybody's saying it, 628 00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:08,879 Speaker 1: we don't know where it originated, and so then we're 629 00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:11,319 Speaker 1: not able to like point blame to somebody. Is that 630 00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:15,160 Speaker 1: part of what that is well. That's certainly one of 631 00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:19,920 Speaker 1: the aspects as it relates to organizational structures and emerging 632 00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:25,280 Speaker 1: opinions and consensus in decision making in much of American industry, 633 00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:30,080 Speaker 1: and in particular in social media and places like Twitter, 634 00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:34,000 Speaker 1: where in the case of the Twitter censorship, in many 635 00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:37,839 Speaker 1: cases you couldn't you can't really identify, you can't pinpoint 636 00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:42,800 Speaker 1: where that's coming from. And in the case of corporate media, 637 00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:47,840 Speaker 1: you don't necessarily have the director of the CIA telling 638 00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:52,319 Speaker 1: each journalist what they should do, or some functionary from 639 00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:57,279 Speaker 1: Department of Homeland Security messaging them, but rather you have 640 00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:02,880 Speaker 1: these soft, indirect pressures and then this kind of swarm 641 00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:07,640 Speaker 1: emerging belief system that will come out within particularly certain 642 00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:10,839 Speaker 1: elites that have a tendency to talk to each other 643 00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:14,920 Speaker 1: all the time, which is absolutely the case in modern journalism. 644 00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:19,200 Speaker 1: With corporate media, we've come to the point where most 645 00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:21,480 Speaker 1: of the people involved in corporate media have gone to 646 00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:27,319 Speaker 1: elite schools like Columbia, and they basically have very similar backgrounds. 647 00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:31,239 Speaker 1: They're often coming from a bicoastal environment. Those are the 648 00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:34,239 Speaker 1: ones that go into this kind of media, and they 649 00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:36,359 Speaker 1: have a tendency to all agree with each other and 650 00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:39,640 Speaker 1: talk to each other and believe that the bubble that 651 00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:44,359 Speaker 1: they exist in represents reality. This blends straight into the 652 00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:49,320 Speaker 1: logic of the virtuals versus the physicals, which is that 653 00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:54,239 Speaker 1: we have, particularly a new generation coming up. It has 654 00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:58,080 Speaker 1: grown up in a world in which virtual reality, both 655 00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:03,680 Speaker 1: in a tangible sense indirectly is the norm, where the 656 00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:06,719 Speaker 1: belief is that you are whatever you choose to be. 657 00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:12,360 Speaker 1: Reality is whatever you choose it to be. This manifests 658 00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:17,319 Speaker 1: in things like the trans movement or furies. To take 659 00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:21,880 Speaker 1: it an extreme example, you know, you can be whatever 660 00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:24,560 Speaker 1: you want to be. To stop you on that, I'm 661 00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:27,840 Speaker 1: in California and you can imagine. Obviously we're trying to 662 00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:31,000 Speaker 1: lead the country in the world and progressivism, and in 663 00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:34,560 Speaker 1: the town next to me, they're putting litter boxes in 664 00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:38,120 Speaker 1: the schools. So for anybody that heard him say that, furries, 665 00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:40,160 Speaker 1: now you know what we're talking about. They're literally the 666 00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:44,560 Speaker 1: teachers are putting those into the student's bathrooms. And so 667 00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:48,319 Speaker 1: we saw in Baltimore kids can't pass not one single 668 00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:52,520 Speaker 1: student could pass math. In Chicago, fifty five schools, not 669 00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:55,440 Speaker 1: one single student could pass math or reading. But they 670 00:44:55,440 --> 00:45:01,560 Speaker 1: have litter boxes. Yeah, and so I remember when I 671 00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:04,279 Speaker 1: was a student and there was a lot of discussion 672 00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:07,879 Speaker 1: about cultural relativism, which is kind of a big part 673 00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:12,799 Speaker 1: of what we're talking about. Uh, it was, it was purported, 674 00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:17,160 Speaker 1: it was, it was kind of advanced. The cultural relatives 675 00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:20,640 Speaker 1: divism was all fine and good, but there were some boundaries. 676 00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:24,680 Speaker 1: There were points at which things would just go too 677 00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:28,439 Speaker 1: far if you were to accept, you know, everything as 678 00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:32,200 Speaker 1: being culturally relative. And the boundary that was most often 679 00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:38,839 Speaker 1: cited was African the African practice of cliterectomy, female genital mutilation. 680 00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:43,520 Speaker 1: That was clearly a branch too far. We couldn't possibly 681 00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:49,840 Speaker 1: allow that, that that transgressed on women's rights and should 682 00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:52,919 Speaker 1: not be allowed. But what we have right now with 683 00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:58,800 Speaker 1: the gender reassignment surgery makes uh, cliterectomy look like child's play, 684 00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:01,879 Speaker 1: so um to swarm. I've kind I've kind of talked 685 00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:03,840 Speaker 1: about it like this, like who are they kind of 686 00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:06,120 Speaker 1: like this birds of a feather flock together, right, So 687 00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:08,560 Speaker 1: like if you look at birds flying in formation, it 688 00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:10,600 Speaker 1: wasn't like they sat down and planned that out, like 689 00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:12,600 Speaker 1: Larry you over there and Bob you over there. Like 690 00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:14,920 Speaker 1: the birds just kind of like happened to flock together. 691 00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:16,759 Speaker 1: And so kind of to the point you're saying, like 692 00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:19,359 Speaker 1: they all went to the same schools, they've all read 693 00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:21,520 Speaker 1: the same books, and so they all just sort of 694 00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:23,640 Speaker 1: seemed to kind of swarm or kind of move together, 695 00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:28,480 Speaker 1: and they and they've come out of bicoastal urban environments largely, 696 00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:33,880 Speaker 1: so they've had very similar cultural experiences. You're not seeing. 697 00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:37,799 Speaker 1: This is one of the reasons why that book by 698 00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:40,960 Speaker 1: the Gentleman that had grown up in I figured what 699 00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:47,239 Speaker 1: it was Arkansas, where he was talking about a lot 700 00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:51,000 Speaker 1: of the issues having to do with rural America. This 701 00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:54,719 Speaker 1: is around the last election, last presidential election, and it 702 00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:58,480 Speaker 1: got so much traction. There are hardly any voices that 703 00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:03,520 Speaker 1: are not coming from bicoastal urban elites in corporate media 704 00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:07,320 Speaker 1: right now, which is probably one reason why, of many 705 00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:10,360 Speaker 1: why corporate media is failing as a business model, and 706 00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:17,560 Speaker 1: these diverse menu of podcasters and other alternative media sources 707 00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:22,400 Speaker 1: are becoming the norm. Is it allows people to connect 708 00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:28,480 Speaker 1: with broadcasters and opinions that are far more diverse and 709 00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:32,440 Speaker 1: that represent things more akin to what their belief systems 710 00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:35,320 Speaker 1: are and their experiences are. At the time of this recording, 711 00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:40,040 Speaker 1: there's new reports that the Biden administration is laying down 712 00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:45,920 Speaker 1: the United States sovereignty to the WHO for all pandemic response, 713 00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:51,160 Speaker 1: including not just the response, but including controlling miss and 714 00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:57,480 Speaker 1: disinformation during that pandemic response. Apparently some Republicans are trying 715 00:47:57,480 --> 00:47:59,760 Speaker 1: to amount a charge of pushback on that. Doesn't appear 716 00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:01,879 Speaker 1: that they may have the legal authority to do that. 717 00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:06,080 Speaker 1: What's your take on that? So what are the leading 718 00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:09,000 Speaker 1: Republicans in that? Referring to is Ron Johnson, who's a 719 00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:12,000 Speaker 1: friend and I was corresponding with him yesterday about this. 720 00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:16,800 Speaker 1: He's still trying to get to the bottom and actually 721 00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:19,480 Speaker 1: asked my help to try to sort out what exactly 722 00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:22,600 Speaker 1: is the current status of the international Health regulations that 723 00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:26,080 Speaker 1: are being advanced at the World Health Organization right now, 724 00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:29,560 Speaker 1: and that supposedly they're going to have a meeting, I think, 725 00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:33,759 Speaker 1: on February twenty seventh to discuss So the international Health 726 00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:36,200 Speaker 1: regulations have been put in place for years and years 727 00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:42,719 Speaker 1: and years, and the White House asserts that they are 728 00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:46,719 Speaker 1: not a treaty and that the White Houses the executive 729 00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:51,120 Speaker 1: branches well within its rights to agree to modifications to 730 00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:57,200 Speaker 1: those that would be binding but would not require Senate approval, 731 00:48:57,239 --> 00:49:01,080 Speaker 1: which by the Constitution is required for any ready that's engaged. 732 00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:05,040 Speaker 1: And so the White House appears to be very actively 733 00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:11,279 Speaker 1: deploying a strategy to circumvent authority, constitutional authority in order 734 00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:17,880 Speaker 1: to enable these modifications that would absolutely seed sovereignty, national 735 00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:22,960 Speaker 1: sovereignty to this world organization that you'll recall, mister Trump 736 00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:26,600 Speaker 1: pulled us out of and that many people, I think 737 00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:30,799 Speaker 1: with good justification assert is largely controlled these days by 738 00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:35,239 Speaker 1: the CCP and the Bill and Millonda Gates Foundation. Those 739 00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:38,440 Speaker 1: are major funders. And yeah, the US is the number 740 00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:40,920 Speaker 1: one funder and the Billemillon Foundation is the second largest 741 00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:44,319 Speaker 1: funder for the WHO. And ted ROS appears to have 742 00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:46,759 Speaker 1: been put in place by Bill and Willinda Gates and 743 00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:51,680 Speaker 1: by the CCP. These HRS International Health Regulations were first 744 00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:55,799 Speaker 1: floated I think last February so full year ago by 745 00:49:56,040 --> 00:50:03,200 Speaker 1: USHHS and they were blocked by a Consortium of African 746 00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:09,719 Speaker 1: States and Brazil under its old leadership. LULA is different now, 747 00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:16,840 Speaker 1: but the objection was the loss of sovereignty under these HRS, 748 00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:20,080 Speaker 1: in which ted ROS would be able to the Director 749 00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:22,920 Speaker 1: General of the WHO would be able to declare a 750 00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:26,879 Speaker 1: public health emergency for any topic he wishes and then 751 00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:32,560 Speaker 1: mandate what the actions should be taken by a nation state. 752 00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:38,120 Speaker 1: So there would be centralized mandates or edicts from WHO 753 00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:40,680 Speaker 1: as to what the response should be in a nation 754 00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:45,839 Speaker 1: state to the declared public health emergency we've and if 755 00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:50,960 Speaker 1: a nation state did not comply, the proposal is that 756 00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:56,400 Speaker 1: the World Trade Organization would become the enforcement arm because 757 00:50:56,760 --> 00:50:59,919 Speaker 1: World Health Organization doesn't have any armies or enforcement arms, 758 00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:03,520 Speaker 1: and so if you did not comply with the mandates 759 00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:06,680 Speaker 1: from the WHOW, then you would be subject to economic 760 00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:11,520 Speaker 1: sanctions through the World Trade Organization. So that's the mechanism 761 00:51:11,640 --> 00:51:14,160 Speaker 1: that's being proposed, and we got a kind of a 762 00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:17,520 Speaker 1: foreshadowing of how the mechanics would work with the monkey 763 00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:21,920 Speaker 1: pox outbreak when the oversight panel, the advisory panel to 764 00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:26,760 Speaker 1: mister Tedros, first voted strongly against declaring that a world 765 00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:32,200 Speaker 1: health emergency. Then it was reorganized, additional members were appointed 766 00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:38,839 Speaker 1: that were more friendly towards the LGBTQ agenda, let's say, 767 00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:43,800 Speaker 1: and we're considered to be more specialized in their knowledge 768 00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:50,560 Speaker 1: about monkey pox and that population those patients. And once 769 00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:54,080 Speaker 1: again they met and voted nine to six against declaring 770 00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:57,880 Speaker 1: in a public health emergency, which mister Tedros declared was 771 00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:00,959 Speaker 1: a tie and that he had to break the tie, 772 00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:03,680 Speaker 1: which he did by declaring in a public health emergency. 773 00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:08,520 Speaker 1: So under these HRS that we originally proposed now have 774 00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:12,000 Speaker 1: been modified. But even Ron Johnson isn't quite sure what 775 00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:18,080 Speaker 1: the modifications are. And you mentioned other Republicans. There's seventeen 776 00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:21,160 Speaker 1: Senators that have signed off on that is all to 777 00:52:21,239 --> 00:52:24,680 Speaker 1: the bill to keep the White House from basically seating 778 00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:29,239 Speaker 1: our sovereignty to Tedro's. But under these terms, Tedros could 779 00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:31,960 Speaker 1: for instance, declare that the United States had a public 780 00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:36,280 Speaker 1: health emergency of gun violence and mandate actions which should 781 00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:40,640 Speaker 1: be taken. This may seem far fetched, but it's absolutely 782 00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:45,120 Speaker 1: within his power as defined by the IHR and the 783 00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:50,160 Speaker 1: u n N, who have long had an initiative of 784 00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:57,359 Speaker 1: working to reduce gun violence and the damage caused in 785 00:52:57,400 --> 00:53:00,880 Speaker 1: the United States and other nation states that are perceived 786 00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:04,920 Speaker 1: to have a problem with guns. And that's not that 787 00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:07,640 Speaker 1: far affixed. We saw the CDC in the United States 788 00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:10,080 Speaker 1: has already been trying to take that stance that it's 789 00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:13,120 Speaker 1: a public health emergency. Yeah, because it's all harmonized, it's 790 00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:19,680 Speaker 1: all vertically integrated. So that's where that stands and and 791 00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:24,279 Speaker 1: we do have a executive branch right now that is 792 00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:31,000 Speaker 1: totally comfortable and advocating this strategy, which is aligned with 793 00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:35,440 Speaker 1: the Agenda twenty thirty at the UN, which also includes 794 00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:39,839 Speaker 1: the clause that as a fundamental human right, people have 795 00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:42,239 Speaker 1: the right to migrate to where we're in the world 796 00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:45,080 Speaker 1: they wish to live, which seems to be the driver 797 00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:50,840 Speaker 1: behind a lot of the policy decisions about dropping national 798 00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:54,440 Speaker 1: boundaries borders and allowing free immigration across borders such as 799 00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:57,880 Speaker 1: our southern border. Yeah. Like I said, we've seen already 800 00:53:57,920 --> 00:54:00,640 Speaker 1: the CDC doing that. Now, just for everybody listening for 801 00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:03,960 Speaker 1: a little historical and correct me if you think this 802 00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:07,200 Speaker 1: is wrong. But it seems like under the Obama administration 803 00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:10,040 Speaker 1: this really kicked into high gear. He went around apologizing 804 00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:13,640 Speaker 1: to the US everywhere. He's the one that put us 805 00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:16,319 Speaker 1: into the Paris Accord. He's the one that put us 806 00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:20,560 Speaker 1: into the WHO. And then he even got the UN involved. Oh, 807 00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:22,919 Speaker 1: he didn't put us into the WHO. We were already there, 808 00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:26,440 Speaker 1: but he advanced a lot of new conditions that were 809 00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:30,040 Speaker 1: aligned with Agenda twenty thirty for sure, then even bringing 810 00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:33,680 Speaker 1: the UN into the United States to oversee elections and 811 00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:36,560 Speaker 1: things like that. And then to your point, Trump pulled 812 00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:39,400 Speaker 1: us out of the Paris Accord, wanted to cancel funding 813 00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:43,520 Speaker 1: to the WHO, and then under the next Obama Biden 814 00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:46,799 Speaker 1: admin the very first day, it was putting us right 815 00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:51,959 Speaker 1: back into those things. Yeah, and mister Obama is also 816 00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:57,839 Speaker 1: the one that has notoriously repeatedly stated words to the 817 00:54:57,880 --> 00:55:02,160 Speaker 1: effect that it's necessary sent ship is necessary to preserve democracy. 818 00:55:02,239 --> 00:55:07,560 Speaker 1: This is a different construction of democracy. Underpinning this is 819 00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:09,920 Speaker 1: you know, we don't have a democracy, just to be 820 00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:13,279 Speaker 1: clear on that, Um, we have a representative government, we 821 00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:17,319 Speaker 1: don't have direct democracy. But there's a whole school of 822 00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:22,400 Speaker 1: thought about that involves redefining the term democracy and its meaning. 823 00:55:23,120 --> 00:55:26,680 Speaker 1: Um that is ascribed to buy a lot of these 824 00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:36,040 Speaker 1: globalist groups. Um, that's talking more about democracy as akin 825 00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:41,600 Speaker 1: to social responsibility, like with the ESG scores and the 826 00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:46,240 Speaker 1: social credit system. It's there the word democracy in those 827 00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:51,160 Speaker 1: circles that have their roots in utilitarianism, and I argue 828 00:55:51,239 --> 00:55:57,520 Speaker 1: utilitarian Marxism are are using the term democracy in a 829 00:55:57,600 --> 00:56:01,320 Speaker 1: different way than most people think of it. But they 830 00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:05,320 Speaker 1: mister Obama is clearly has a long history of repeated 831 00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:13,080 Speaker 1: advocacy in favor of information control, in in censorship, in 832 00:56:13,160 --> 00:56:17,440 Speaker 1: order to preserve whatever democracy is as he sees it, 833 00:56:17,640 --> 00:56:21,360 Speaker 1: which is completely amethetical to the Constitution. It's it's a 834 00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:24,279 Speaker 1: complete inversion, but consistent with a lot of the other 835 00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:27,440 Speaker 1: manipulation of words, very or willing that we've seen all 836 00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:29,880 Speaker 1: the way through the last three years. Yeah, I love 837 00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:32,719 Speaker 1: that you started with that. You know, Um, it's not 838 00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:34,760 Speaker 1: We're not a democracy of the US as a republic. 839 00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:37,520 Speaker 1: There I think part of trying to overturn that is 840 00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:39,600 Speaker 1: trying to call it a democracy. But to the point, 841 00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:42,480 Speaker 1: to your point, what you would consider a democracy is 842 00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:45,879 Speaker 1: what the mass wants, what the majority of the people want. 843 00:56:46,200 --> 00:56:48,399 Speaker 1: And if you don't educate the people, if you don't 844 00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:51,759 Speaker 1: allow them to find the information, then how can you 845 00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:54,960 Speaker 1: trust what they vote on? But even more so if 846 00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:57,480 Speaker 1: you don't take into consideration what they want, like you know, 847 00:56:57,520 --> 00:57:01,120 Speaker 1: the Biden administration basically saying all the servatives everybody voted 848 00:57:01,120 --> 00:57:03,400 Speaker 1: for Trump is a threat to the democracy. But it's like, 849 00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:05,960 Speaker 1: if that's what the people want, isn't that the definition 850 00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:09,480 Speaker 1: of democracy? So what is their debt? Well, remember we're 851 00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:14,239 Speaker 1: also simultaneously in this fifth gen warfare Battlescape. So what 852 00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:19,520 Speaker 1: people think they want is highly manipulated. It's basically taking 853 00:57:19,880 --> 00:57:24,919 Speaker 1: advertising technology and putting it on steroids and weaponizing it. 854 00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:29,120 Speaker 1: The technology for manipulating what you think you want. You 855 00:57:29,120 --> 00:57:32,720 Speaker 1: know you crave a McDonald's McDonald's hamburger, good for your health? 856 00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:36,240 Speaker 1: Hell no, but you crave it because we have all 857 00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:39,480 Speaker 1: kinds of technology to teach you that you want fries, 858 00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:43,440 Speaker 1: a shake and a mcburger, right, And it's the same. 859 00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:47,200 Speaker 1: We don't. That's why my point about sovereignty in fifth 860 00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:52,040 Speaker 1: gen warfare, what we think we have in terms of 861 00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:58,800 Speaker 1: free will becomes anachronistic. It's obsolete. We are highly, highly 862 00:57:58,880 --> 00:58:04,320 Speaker 1: manipulable and manipulated, and there are no ethical boundaries. The 863 00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:09,440 Speaker 1: government has politicized every single thing. You can see it everywhere. 864 00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:15,520 Speaker 1: Everything is politicized. Everything is subjected to nudge technology famously 865 00:58:15,560 --> 00:58:21,280 Speaker 1: made you know advanced in the UK, where all information 866 00:58:21,320 --> 00:58:25,720 Speaker 1: that you receive, the broadcast that you receive, the Netflix 867 00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:31,080 Speaker 1: that you look at. We talk about wokeism. What that 868 00:58:31,160 --> 00:58:35,960 Speaker 1: really represents is that every single thing you encounter or touch, 869 00:58:36,240 --> 00:58:41,920 Speaker 1: or feel or sense or taste is manipulated to an 870 00:58:42,040 --> 00:58:48,960 Speaker 1: end of a political objective. By some group or entity 871 00:58:49,160 --> 00:58:53,000 Speaker 1: or persons that you have no awareness of who they are. 872 00:58:53,600 --> 00:58:58,080 Speaker 1: But we've seen from the Twitter files that a large 873 00:58:58,160 --> 00:59:04,280 Speaker 1: number of democratic base operational groups are deeply involved in that. 874 00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:08,600 Speaker 1: And now we have the deployment of AI right, which 875 00:59:08,600 --> 00:59:11,920 Speaker 1: has been actively funded by the US government as another 876 00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:15,960 Speaker 1: tool of propaganda warfare. And as we're looking at chat, 877 00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:18,640 Speaker 1: GPT and these other AIS that are being deployed that 878 00:59:18,680 --> 00:59:20,440 Speaker 1: are going to be by the way, integrated into all 879 00:59:20,440 --> 00:59:25,919 Speaker 1: Microsoft products, YEA looking forward to that. They are all 880 00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:30,440 Speaker 1: biased against conservative points of view. They are just another 881 00:59:30,600 --> 00:59:35,120 Speaker 1: tool to manipulate our mind and thought. But they're marketed 882 00:59:35,240 --> 00:59:40,640 Speaker 1: as as this independent, objective arbiter of truth, when in 883 00:59:40,720 --> 00:59:45,880 Speaker 1: fact AI is notorious for what the starting parameters are 884 00:59:46,040 --> 00:59:49,480 Speaker 1: that you use in launching the program. You can basically 885 00:59:49,520 --> 00:59:52,240 Speaker 1: get whatever you want out of AI based on how 886 00:59:52,280 --> 00:59:55,320 Speaker 1: you set up the parameters. It's just another way to 887 00:59:55,320 --> 00:59:58,480 Speaker 1: fool people. Just on that note, open AI is not open, 888 00:59:59,160 --> 01:00:02,040 Speaker 1: it's it's it's closed and they feed it whatever they 889 01:00:02,040 --> 01:00:04,400 Speaker 1: want to. And so there's lots of tests to show 890 01:00:04,440 --> 01:00:08,360 Speaker 1: how biased it is. Have you seen have you seen 891 01:00:08,800 --> 01:00:12,520 Speaker 1: stable diffusion on what they're doing and it's all open 892 01:00:12,560 --> 01:00:15,000 Speaker 1: source AI and they've been able to compress it down 893 01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:17,160 Speaker 1: into like a two gig file where everybody could run 894 01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:21,400 Speaker 1: their own AI. And they're trying to exactly counter this 895 01:00:21,520 --> 01:00:23,880 Speaker 1: by giving it open eye where everybody could have their 896 01:00:23,880 --> 01:00:26,720 Speaker 1: own that we build on our own. So it's worth 897 01:00:26,800 --> 01:00:29,880 Speaker 1: checking out Stable Diffusion. There was a really good interview 898 01:00:29,920 --> 01:00:34,480 Speaker 1: with Peter Diamantes and the founder of stable Diffusion Ammad 899 01:00:34,560 --> 01:00:37,520 Speaker 1: I forget his last name. Amazing interview. Everyone should check 900 01:00:37,560 --> 01:00:41,200 Speaker 1: that out. But but this is a great segue which 901 01:00:41,240 --> 01:00:44,360 Speaker 1: you just pointed out to the topic that you were 902 01:00:44,520 --> 01:00:46,960 Speaker 1: leading into, which is what can you do about it? 903 01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:50,640 Speaker 1: What can the average person do about it? And what 904 01:00:50,800 --> 01:00:54,760 Speaker 1: you just gave was a great example of a decentralized 905 01:00:54,800 --> 01:01:03,080 Speaker 1: future in which you have independent entities, creating communities, creating applications, 906 01:01:03,600 --> 01:01:08,800 Speaker 1: creating capabilities that are autonomous, and often a key here 907 01:01:09,400 --> 01:01:13,320 Speaker 1: is they have to be decoupled from the cloud. That's 908 01:01:13,440 --> 01:01:17,760 Speaker 1: another one of the great problems that we're now confronting. 909 01:01:17,800 --> 01:01:22,760 Speaker 1: Like this studio. For instance, we're I rely on starlink 910 01:01:22,800 --> 01:01:26,480 Speaker 1: commercial for my up and down and so I'm not 911 01:01:26,600 --> 01:01:30,080 Speaker 1: going over T mobile or some other application, all of 912 01:01:30,120 --> 01:01:37,600 Speaker 1: which gets censored, and the my servers and all of 913 01:01:37,640 --> 01:01:43,040 Speaker 1: the other IT infrastructure here is behind an independent firewall, 914 01:01:43,080 --> 01:01:46,240 Speaker 1: which we're having to upgrade because of all of the 915 01:01:46,280 --> 01:01:49,240 Speaker 1: attacks that we get coming through that pipe. It's a 916 01:01:49,280 --> 01:01:55,560 Speaker 1: big pipe, and our IT volunteers very senior people because 917 01:01:55,760 --> 01:01:58,160 Speaker 1: they've volunteered because they like what I say. I guess 918 01:01:58,680 --> 01:02:02,160 Speaker 1: very kind, but they've never seen this level of attack before. 919 01:02:02,360 --> 01:02:06,360 Speaker 1: So we're now moving into an environment where everybody has 920 01:02:06,400 --> 01:02:10,760 Speaker 1: to basically cocoon themselves if they want to have any 921 01:02:10,840 --> 01:02:15,840 Speaker 1: kind of autonomy or resistance to all this, and we 922 01:02:15,920 --> 01:02:20,400 Speaker 1: have to live in a decentralized world as much as possible. 923 01:02:20,440 --> 01:02:23,600 Speaker 1: This is what George Orwell predicted in one of his 924 01:02:23,680 --> 01:02:26,959 Speaker 1: early forwards to nineteen eighty four, was that we would 925 01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:33,160 Speaker 1: all become manipulated through pharmacology into a compliant passive state 926 01:02:33,880 --> 01:02:38,480 Speaker 1: in a future authoritarian regime of the type that he 927 01:02:38,520 --> 01:02:41,560 Speaker 1: was envisioning, and that the only way he believed that 928 01:02:41,600 --> 01:02:45,680 Speaker 1: we could ever avoid that outcome, that eventual outcome, I mean, 929 01:02:46,080 --> 01:02:48,920 Speaker 1: how pression is that that we're all going to end 930 01:02:48,960 --> 01:02:54,480 Speaker 1: up being manipulated by pharma. The only way that he 931 01:02:54,520 --> 01:03:00,200 Speaker 1: could see overcoming that is to work really hard to 932 01:03:00,240 --> 01:03:05,880 Speaker 1: build a decentralized society, and that, I think is what 933 01:03:06,160 --> 01:03:10,240 Speaker 1: gets us towards the better future coming. There is a 934 01:03:10,320 --> 01:03:14,720 Speaker 1: potential in the human species that's different from this dark 935 01:03:15,160 --> 01:03:21,480 Speaker 1: Fourth Industrial Revolution transhumanism singularity, where the idea of Homo 936 01:03:21,560 --> 01:03:26,320 Speaker 1: sapiens becomes obsolete and we move into a world of 937 01:03:26,360 --> 01:03:29,800 Speaker 1: Homo deus man as God, and we control our own 938 01:03:29,840 --> 01:03:33,800 Speaker 1: evolution and we build ourselves as some kind of a 939 01:03:34,000 --> 01:03:38,160 Speaker 1: bizarre terminator fusion of man and machine and chips and 940 01:03:38,640 --> 01:03:41,240 Speaker 1: surveillance of our brain waves and all these things that 941 01:03:41,280 --> 01:03:44,240 Speaker 1: the World Economic Forum talks about. We don't have to 942 01:03:44,280 --> 01:03:46,280 Speaker 1: live there, and I think this is one of the 943 01:03:46,320 --> 01:03:56,040 Speaker 1: beauties of understanding Fifth gen warfare is at the superficial level. 944 01:03:56,080 --> 01:03:59,920 Speaker 1: If you take the time to read the articles, download 945 01:04:00,080 --> 01:04:06,560 Speaker 1: that ebook from Kendall sorry it's an Amazon product, and 946 01:04:06,800 --> 01:04:11,720 Speaker 1: read about it. It's actually titled five GW and Michael 947 01:04:11,760 --> 01:04:14,760 Speaker 1: Flynn has an even easy it's a super easy reader 948 01:04:14,960 --> 01:04:19,120 Speaker 1: on a fifth gen warfare. Once you go through that stuff, 949 01:04:19,120 --> 01:04:21,960 Speaker 1: you'll never be the same. It's like those of us 950 01:04:22,000 --> 01:04:24,560 Speaker 1: that have grown up with American advertising. We can see 951 01:04:24,680 --> 01:04:26,720 Speaker 1: right through a lot of the garbage they throw at us. 952 01:04:27,600 --> 01:04:29,840 Speaker 1: The poor people in Ghana cants. You know, they haven't 953 01:04:29,880 --> 01:04:32,440 Speaker 1: grown up with it. It's it's like deploying a nuclear 954 01:04:32,520 --> 01:04:38,520 Speaker 1: bomb on third world populations, modern marketing technology and kids too. Yeah, 955 01:04:38,560 --> 01:04:43,880 Speaker 1: well absolutely, But if you lift the technology then you 956 01:04:43,920 --> 01:04:46,240 Speaker 1: can see through it and you can start to become 957 01:04:46,280 --> 01:04:50,120 Speaker 1: more resistant. But if you start to work to master it, 958 01:04:50,800 --> 01:04:54,400 Speaker 1: then you can deploy it yourself. I was lecturing to 959 01:04:54,440 --> 01:04:58,480 Speaker 1: a group in Stockholm, thirteen hundred people out on the 960 01:04:58,880 --> 01:05:01,880 Speaker 1: you know, in the radisson on the water, and talking 961 01:05:01,880 --> 01:05:05,360 Speaker 1: about five GW in a recent talk, and I made 962 01:05:05,440 --> 01:05:09,640 Speaker 1: the point that the battle group in Fort Bragg for 963 01:05:09,720 --> 01:05:11,919 Speaker 1: the US Army that does a lot of the psyops work, 964 01:05:12,200 --> 01:05:15,000 Speaker 1: he's eight hundred soldiers and there was thirteen hundred people 965 01:05:15,000 --> 01:05:16,560 Speaker 1: in the audience. I said, if every one of you 966 01:05:16,640 --> 01:05:19,160 Speaker 1: decides to be a warrior instead of a victim, we've 967 01:05:19,160 --> 01:05:22,600 Speaker 1: got them out manned right away. Okay. The beauty of 968 01:05:22,640 --> 01:05:25,920 Speaker 1: fifth gen warfare is if you learn the technology and 969 01:05:26,080 --> 01:05:30,320 Speaker 1: strategy and you understand this battlescape, you can choose to 970 01:05:30,360 --> 01:05:34,080 Speaker 1: be a warrior as opposed to a victim, and I 971 01:05:34,120 --> 01:05:37,520 Speaker 1: think we can be successful. One of the things that 972 01:05:38,040 --> 01:05:40,760 Speaker 1: is a challenge for all of us right now is 973 01:05:40,880 --> 01:05:46,480 Speaker 1: what are our objectives. The issue is when you take 974 01:05:46,520 --> 01:05:49,360 Speaker 1: a bunch of libertarians, they have a tendency not to 975 01:05:49,400 --> 01:05:54,840 Speaker 1: want to cooperate with each other by definition. And I 976 01:05:54,920 --> 01:05:57,600 Speaker 1: was speaking with Nigel Farage. He actually kind of coached 977 01:05:57,600 --> 01:05:59,560 Speaker 1: me a little bit about three or four weeks ago, 978 01:05:59,560 --> 01:06:02,840 Speaker 1: and then on him again two weeks ago, and I 979 01:06:02,880 --> 01:06:05,840 Speaker 1: asked him about what were the key lessons from Brexit, 980 01:06:06,480 --> 01:06:08,720 Speaker 1: and he said, the problem was we started off as 981 01:06:08,720 --> 01:06:11,320 Speaker 1: a bunch of libertarians and we had no understanding or 982 01:06:11,440 --> 01:06:14,240 Speaker 1: idea or interest in cooperating with each other. And what 983 01:06:14,280 --> 01:06:16,640 Speaker 1: we had to do is define a common set of 984 01:06:16,640 --> 01:06:19,120 Speaker 1: principles that we all agreed on, that wasn't too big, 985 01:06:19,160 --> 01:06:22,360 Speaker 1: that was forward looking, positive, and then we had to 986 01:06:22,400 --> 01:06:25,360 Speaker 1: come up with a name for that. And once we 987 01:06:25,400 --> 01:06:27,800 Speaker 1: had done that, of course, that name was Brexit. Then 988 01:06:27,800 --> 01:06:29,760 Speaker 1: we were able to coalesce around it and get the 989 01:06:29,840 --> 01:06:34,040 Speaker 1: job done. His belief is that we're not quite yet there. 990 01:06:34,560 --> 01:06:38,760 Speaker 1: We don't yet know as a community, a diffused community, 991 01:06:38,800 --> 01:06:42,000 Speaker 1: decentralized community, what it is we really want. What is 992 01:06:42,040 --> 01:06:44,000 Speaker 1: our vision of the future. I think that is our 993 01:06:44,040 --> 01:06:47,120 Speaker 1: biggest challenge right now is to come up with a 994 01:06:47,200 --> 01:06:50,920 Speaker 1: positive vision of the future a morning in America for 995 01:06:50,960 --> 01:06:57,280 Speaker 1: the world that's different from this terminator, mad Max matrix, 996 01:06:57,840 --> 01:07:02,040 Speaker 1: ugly thing that you've all Harari and the wef want 997 01:07:02,040 --> 01:07:04,880 Speaker 1: to quote shape for us in which will in which 998 01:07:04,920 --> 01:07:10,000 Speaker 1: we'll eat see bugs and uh um uh own nothing 999 01:07:10,040 --> 01:07:13,920 Speaker 1: and be happy and live in some sort of a 1000 01:07:14,000 --> 01:07:18,800 Speaker 1: technocratic workers utopia in which if they only have enough 1001 01:07:18,920 --> 01:07:21,040 Speaker 1: data on all of us, they can run it through 1002 01:07:21,080 --> 01:07:27,200 Speaker 1: their algorithms and optimize resource distribution for everybody in the 1003 01:07:27,240 --> 01:07:30,400 Speaker 1: world except for them. Well, I think you know. I'm 1004 01:07:30,720 --> 01:07:34,520 Speaker 1: a firm believer in individualism. I wrote a book in August, 1005 01:07:34,560 --> 01:07:38,200 Speaker 1: released it in August called the Uncommunist Manifesto, and it's 1006 01:07:38,240 --> 01:07:41,000 Speaker 1: a counter two. Ah, you're the one behind that. Yes, 1007 01:07:41,040 --> 01:07:43,320 Speaker 1: I've seen that book. Yep, yep, I'm the one behind it. 1008 01:07:43,360 --> 01:07:45,080 Speaker 1: So appreciate that you've seen it. I le mans send 1009 01:07:45,080 --> 01:07:47,280 Speaker 1: you a signed copy so I'll get your info after. 1010 01:07:47,400 --> 01:07:51,000 Speaker 1: But but it's a counter to the Communist Manifesto. And 1011 01:07:51,400 --> 01:07:55,400 Speaker 1: obviously we we you know, we oppose collectivism and I 1012 01:07:55,760 --> 01:07:59,320 Speaker 1: push individualism. But I believe that you know, individualism, we 1013 01:07:59,320 --> 01:08:02,240 Speaker 1: should always be concerned with ourselves, but we also share 1014 01:08:02,360 --> 01:08:06,760 Speaker 1: in aligned values. So enemy of my enemy is my friend, 1015 01:08:06,800 --> 01:08:10,320 Speaker 1: so to speak, right, and so where we come together 1016 01:08:10,400 --> 01:08:12,800 Speaker 1: and well, but it's a little more than that, isn't it. 1017 01:08:12,840 --> 01:08:17,000 Speaker 1: I Mean, we have this Judeo Christian ethic. It's been 1018 01:08:17,040 --> 01:08:23,679 Speaker 1: developed over millennia and time tested in civilization, and for 1019 01:08:23,720 --> 01:08:28,240 Speaker 1: some reason we want to throw that away. This this 1020 01:08:28,240 --> 01:08:32,960 Speaker 1: this gift that's been given to us by generation after 1021 01:08:33,040 --> 01:08:36,840 Speaker 1: generation after generation. Whether you believe it was divinely inspired, 1022 01:08:38,000 --> 01:08:42,599 Speaker 1: at a minimum, it represents a time tested way for 1023 01:08:42,760 --> 01:08:45,880 Speaker 1: humans to live with each other, which is why they 1024 01:08:45,920 --> 01:08:48,400 Speaker 1: want to change history. They don't want us to remember 1025 01:08:48,439 --> 01:08:50,160 Speaker 1: how good it was so we go back to that. 1026 01:08:50,200 --> 01:08:51,880 Speaker 1: They want us to look back in history as something 1027 01:08:51,960 --> 01:08:55,040 Speaker 1: being bad and evil that we don't want to return to. Yeah, 1028 01:08:55,080 --> 01:08:57,760 Speaker 1: it's it's interesting. So I'm curious and talk about this 1029 01:08:57,800 --> 01:09:01,120 Speaker 1: decentralized future. So that's something that I talk about on 1030 01:09:01,120 --> 01:09:03,439 Speaker 1: my radio show. I call it the decentralized revolution that 1031 01:09:03,439 --> 01:09:07,000 Speaker 1: I believe we're going into. Um. And if you look 1032 01:09:07,000 --> 01:09:10,600 Speaker 1: at this, like there's these all these centralizing forces that 1033 01:09:10,600 --> 01:09:13,320 Speaker 1: are building up the WEF and the who, and you know, 1034 01:09:13,320 --> 01:09:15,200 Speaker 1: it's all kind of one big thing. And when you 1035 01:09:15,280 --> 01:09:18,200 Speaker 1: look at what's behind the who or the W and 1036 01:09:19,200 --> 01:09:22,800 Speaker 1: don't don't neglect the BISS right, Yeah, the bit you know, 1037 01:09:22,840 --> 01:09:25,640 Speaker 1: the the that's at the top. Right, So we have 1038 01:09:25,680 --> 01:09:27,880 Speaker 1: the the BIS at the very top, and then we 1039 01:09:27,960 --> 01:09:30,160 Speaker 1: kind of have these NGOs kind of in the middle layer. 1040 01:09:30,160 --> 01:09:33,080 Speaker 1: That's kind of way I see it. But so okay, 1041 01:09:33,080 --> 01:09:35,080 Speaker 1: so let's talk about the BISS at the Bank of 1042 01:09:35,080 --> 01:09:38,320 Speaker 1: International Settlement sits at the top. The bankers, and they 1043 01:09:38,320 --> 01:09:41,439 Speaker 1: talk about companies that don't go along with this will 1044 01:09:41,439 --> 01:09:45,280 Speaker 1: be quote economic roadkill. So they enforced this you talked about, 1045 01:09:45,680 --> 01:09:47,680 Speaker 1: um if if they don't go along with it, they 1046 01:09:47,680 --> 01:09:50,519 Speaker 1: would use the w t O the trade organization to 1047 01:09:50,560 --> 01:09:53,680 Speaker 1: impose economic stactions. But they also use the IMF and 1048 01:09:53,720 --> 01:09:56,439 Speaker 1: they won't give them funding and things like that. So 1049 01:09:56,720 --> 01:10:04,000 Speaker 1: and this this is what's baked into the ESG score. 1050 01:10:05,120 --> 01:10:08,599 Speaker 1: And what I'm hearing is that with the social part 1051 01:10:08,640 --> 01:10:13,000 Speaker 1: of that environmental social and governance with the governance score, 1052 01:10:13,840 --> 01:10:17,360 Speaker 1: if the executive of your company is donating to causes 1053 01:10:17,400 --> 01:10:22,760 Speaker 1: that are unapproved, your G score goes down on your 1054 01:10:22,960 --> 01:10:28,560 Speaker 1: S score. Apparently, there are rating groups that are circulating 1055 01:10:28,640 --> 01:10:31,640 Speaker 1: that will basically give you the S score that you 1056 01:10:31,720 --> 01:10:35,240 Speaker 1: need if you don't have a sufficiently high ESG score, 1057 01:10:35,640 --> 01:10:39,320 Speaker 1: you cannot get capital. So, for instance, by definition, if 1058 01:10:39,360 --> 01:10:42,479 Speaker 1: you're in the petroleum industry, you cannot have a good 1059 01:10:42,760 --> 01:10:47,479 Speaker 1: ESG score. Therefore there's no capital available for wildcatting or 1060 01:10:47,520 --> 01:10:53,120 Speaker 1: speculative drilling, or oil exploration or development of new processing plants. 1061 01:10:53,600 --> 01:10:56,880 Speaker 1: That all that capital is not available by the very 1062 01:10:57,000 --> 01:11:01,559 Speaker 1: nature of your industry. In terms of the escore, what 1063 01:11:01,640 --> 01:11:04,800 Speaker 1: I'm hearing is that there are these they're acting as 1064 01:11:04,840 --> 01:11:10,320 Speaker 1: little mafias. These rating groups are often populated by people 1065 01:11:10,680 --> 01:11:15,560 Speaker 1: that are within those groups that believe they've been disadvantaged. 1066 01:11:15,600 --> 01:11:20,320 Speaker 1: We could call that LGBTQ, and they will come into 1067 01:11:20,360 --> 01:11:24,280 Speaker 1: your company and say, you will either do these things 1068 01:11:24,360 --> 01:11:26,280 Speaker 1: that we want you to do, you will hire these 1069 01:11:26,320 --> 01:11:29,599 Speaker 1: people that we want you to hire. You will down 1070 01:11:29,600 --> 01:11:32,599 Speaker 1: to the level of you will provide free plane tickets 1071 01:11:32,600 --> 01:11:35,679 Speaker 1: so that we can go to protests and rallies across 1072 01:11:35,720 --> 01:11:38,080 Speaker 1: the United States. And if you do that, we'll give 1073 01:11:38,160 --> 01:11:40,920 Speaker 1: you your high score. And if you don't do that, 1074 01:11:41,400 --> 01:11:45,720 Speaker 1: we'll tank your score. And it's basically a shakedown. And 1075 01:11:45,840 --> 01:11:49,000 Speaker 1: this is what corporate America is facing right now. And 1076 01:11:49,280 --> 01:11:52,720 Speaker 1: none of this has anything to do with maximizing shareholder 1077 01:11:52,800 --> 01:11:57,000 Speaker 1: return or profit or product quality or any the other 1078 01:11:57,160 --> 01:12:03,479 Speaker 1: normal metrics in business, completely distorting it based on Claus 1079 01:12:03,479 --> 01:12:11,520 Speaker 1: Schwab's idea of UM a socially responsible corporate governance structure. 1080 01:12:12,000 --> 01:12:15,000 Speaker 1: Which is why I'm hopeful and optimistic and truly believe 1081 01:12:15,120 --> 01:12:18,559 Speaker 1: that it fails because it doesn't work that way. But 1082 01:12:18,880 --> 01:12:22,439 Speaker 1: how many lives are destroyed in the interim? Oh sure, 1083 01:12:22,840 --> 01:12:25,880 Speaker 1: sure it's already happening. But on that so on that thread. 1084 01:12:25,960 --> 01:12:27,479 Speaker 1: And I love the fact that you threw out the 1085 01:12:27,520 --> 01:12:30,240 Speaker 1: BIS and sits at the top. So the BIS and 1086 01:12:30,400 --> 01:12:34,280 Speaker 1: IMF and this economic right and so UM the you know, 1087 01:12:34,320 --> 01:12:37,240 Speaker 1: the government, all governments, the United States government continue to 1088 01:12:37,240 --> 01:12:40,000 Speaker 1: grow at this massive scale, to continue to send billions, 1089 01:12:40,000 --> 01:12:42,120 Speaker 1: one hundreds of billions of dollars to you know who, 1090 01:12:42,240 --> 01:12:44,439 Speaker 1: and now one hundreds of billions getting longer through Ukraine 1091 01:12:44,880 --> 01:12:47,400 Speaker 1: going and getting into the WF, and so all of 1092 01:12:47,400 --> 01:12:50,800 Speaker 1: this money that we don't have, right, we're spent. Well 1093 01:12:50,880 --> 01:12:54,439 Speaker 1: let's call it. Let's call it what it is, fiat currency. Okay, So, okay, 1094 01:12:54,520 --> 01:12:56,560 Speaker 1: so you nailed it. I'm setting the table here. But 1095 01:12:56,760 --> 01:12:58,519 Speaker 1: you know, so we have this fiat currency. They're able 1096 01:12:58,520 --> 01:13:00,639 Speaker 1: to print money because we don't have it. The deficit, 1097 01:13:00,680 --> 01:13:05,000 Speaker 1: spending billions or trillions of dollars are going into building 1098 01:13:05,120 --> 01:13:10,200 Speaker 1: a perfect prison, right printing money, creating a digital panopticon, 1099 01:13:10,360 --> 01:13:12,800 Speaker 1: to build social credit core systems and ESG systems and 1100 01:13:13,160 --> 01:13:16,439 Speaker 1: economic roadkilling all these things. And so back to this 1101 01:13:16,600 --> 01:13:20,479 Speaker 1: decentralized future. Then it seems like the key, as one 1102 01:13:20,520 --> 01:13:23,160 Speaker 1: of my favorite economists, Fa Hike said, never be a 1103 01:13:23,160 --> 01:13:25,320 Speaker 1: sound money again until we take the thing from the 1104 01:13:25,400 --> 01:13:28,479 Speaker 1: hands of the government. But it can't be done by force, 1105 01:13:28,640 --> 01:13:32,719 Speaker 1: rather a sly roundabout way introducing something that can't be stopped. 1106 01:13:33,280 --> 01:13:35,640 Speaker 1: So I'm curious to get your opinion on what you 1107 01:13:35,680 --> 01:13:41,160 Speaker 1: think about the best decentralized money, which is bitcoin. Yeah. 1108 01:13:41,240 --> 01:13:44,920 Speaker 1: So this has been one of the bizarre things about 1109 01:13:44,920 --> 01:13:47,240 Speaker 1: this long, strange strip I've been over the last three 1110 01:13:47,360 --> 01:13:52,280 Speaker 1: years is I found myself in Puerto Rico in Miami 1111 01:13:52,320 --> 01:13:56,439 Speaker 1: and at the Bitcoin conference talking to the whales and 1112 01:13:57,200 --> 01:14:04,719 Speaker 1: getting tutored by Brock Pierce and others in the editor 1113 01:14:04,760 --> 01:14:07,599 Speaker 1: of Well don't don't, don't don't listen to him too much. 1114 01:14:07,920 --> 01:14:14,360 Speaker 1: Potential downside here is that in one fell swoop, the 1115 01:14:14,439 --> 01:14:19,120 Speaker 1: biss with the governments can make a decentralized bitcoin currency 1116 01:14:19,280 --> 01:14:25,040 Speaker 1: illegal and the argument that's made by the bitcoin community is, well, 1117 01:14:25,439 --> 01:14:28,360 Speaker 1: blockchain allows us to tunnel through that and they can 1118 01:14:28,400 --> 01:14:30,160 Speaker 1: never kill it, and they've tried to kill it in 1119 01:14:30,160 --> 01:14:34,760 Speaker 1: the past and they've never succeeded. Um, I hope you're right. 1120 01:14:35,880 --> 01:14:41,040 Speaker 1: I wouldn't put all my eggs in that basket. And uh, 1121 01:14:41,080 --> 01:14:45,920 Speaker 1: you know, I, uh probably shouldn't even speak about this. 1122 01:14:46,479 --> 01:14:51,920 Speaker 1: Uh we just dropped another twenty in kugaron. Um you 1123 01:14:51,960 --> 01:14:58,439 Speaker 1: know I think that, Um, we're The evidence seems to 1124 01:14:58,479 --> 01:15:04,120 Speaker 1: be that we are heading into on something of a 1125 01:15:04,240 --> 01:15:07,920 Speaker 1: horizon like a year or less or maybe a few 1126 01:15:07,960 --> 01:15:20,120 Speaker 1: more to a major economic event. There's too many vectors 1127 01:15:20,160 --> 01:15:24,360 Speaker 1: that are that are coming into conjunction, having to do 1128 01:15:24,439 --> 01:15:30,559 Speaker 1: with things like the social security system, fundum illiquidity, and 1129 01:15:31,400 --> 01:15:35,760 Speaker 1: the bricks strategies. I mean, all we have to do, 1130 01:15:35,840 --> 01:15:39,880 Speaker 1: and the Saudis are already jabbering about it, is move 1131 01:15:39,920 --> 01:15:46,400 Speaker 1: away from a dollar pegged petro exchange to something that's 1132 01:15:46,439 --> 01:15:50,880 Speaker 1: pegged to some other vehicle, some of their token to 1133 01:15:50,960 --> 01:15:56,600 Speaker 1: use bitcoin language, and suddenly we have a huge surplus 1134 01:15:56,600 --> 01:16:01,839 Speaker 1: of dollars washing about in the international account and folks 1135 01:16:02,040 --> 01:16:05,760 Speaker 1: will start to unload those dollars and that is a 1136 01:16:05,840 --> 01:16:13,880 Speaker 1: significant risk for a hyperinflationary environment, which historically I've heard 1137 01:16:14,680 --> 01:16:17,320 Speaker 1: it's been a pleasure to interface with the bitcoin community 1138 01:16:17,320 --> 01:16:20,080 Speaker 1: because they've taught me so much, but they do have 1139 01:16:20,120 --> 01:16:30,080 Speaker 1: their biases and hopes. But I've I've heard it floated 1140 01:16:31,600 --> 01:16:38,479 Speaker 1: that the real predicate to major social unrest and rise 1141 01:16:38,520 --> 01:16:45,400 Speaker 1: of totalitarianism historically has been periods of financial instability and hyperinflation. 1142 01:16:45,439 --> 01:16:48,680 Speaker 1: In particular, once you have hyper sure, when you can't 1143 01:16:48,720 --> 01:16:53,800 Speaker 1: feed your family, everything you thought you knew about the 1144 01:16:53,920 --> 01:16:59,439 Speaker 1: nation state becomes obsolete and irrelevant, the legitimacy of the 1145 01:16:59,520 --> 01:17:05,920 Speaker 1: nation's state, you know, hyperinflationary environment goes to nothing immediately, 1146 01:17:06,960 --> 01:17:13,880 Speaker 1: and then you have anarchy, chaos, revolution, uprising, etc. We 1147 01:17:15,000 --> 01:17:17,760 Speaker 1: this the strategies here, and I think this is what 1148 01:17:18,160 --> 01:17:20,479 Speaker 1: many people. It's not my you know, Ernest Wolff talked 1149 01:17:20,479 --> 01:17:28,519 Speaker 1: about this two years ago that the m one theory 1150 01:17:28,560 --> 01:17:31,800 Speaker 1: of the case is the underpinning logic behind a lot 1151 01:17:31,840 --> 01:17:35,960 Speaker 1: of the actions taken during the COVID crisis has been 1152 01:17:36,280 --> 01:17:43,599 Speaker 1: to set up conditions for a transition. You know, This 1153 01:17:43,680 --> 01:17:47,479 Speaker 1: is what the term great reset is referring to, in 1154 01:17:47,520 --> 01:17:52,720 Speaker 1: which will transition from the current currency structure to a 1155 01:17:52,760 --> 01:17:56,400 Speaker 1: central bank digital currency environment in which you have to 1156 01:17:56,400 --> 01:17:58,080 Speaker 1: in order to implement that, you have to have a 1157 01:17:58,120 --> 01:18:02,960 Speaker 1: digital ID, We have to have the masters of the universe, 1158 01:18:03,080 --> 01:18:05,960 Speaker 1: have to have all kinds of information on all of us. 1159 01:18:06,000 --> 01:18:09,200 Speaker 1: They have to be able to control the allocation of 1160 01:18:09,240 --> 01:18:12,760 Speaker 1: this digital currency, and they have to be able to 1161 01:18:12,800 --> 01:18:16,160 Speaker 1: control how we would spend or deploy it, how we 1162 01:18:16,200 --> 01:18:21,000 Speaker 1: would use it, in order to ensure that we have uh, 1163 01:18:21,360 --> 01:18:23,760 Speaker 1: you know, the greatest good for the greatest number, and 1164 01:18:23,880 --> 01:18:27,000 Speaker 1: from each according to his abilities, into each according to 1165 01:18:27,000 --> 01:18:29,800 Speaker 1: his needs. That's that's where this is all going. And 1166 01:18:30,920 --> 01:18:35,480 Speaker 1: I hear again and again that the coming economic instability 1167 01:18:35,479 --> 01:18:37,920 Speaker 1: that many for C is going to be the ruse 1168 01:18:38,040 --> 01:18:42,599 Speaker 1: under which CBDP is going to central bank digital currency 1169 01:18:43,200 --> 01:18:46,479 Speaker 1: is going to be deployed. Is this aligned with your thinking? 1170 01:18:47,760 --> 01:18:50,839 Speaker 1: So the central bank digital currencies are just fiat currency, 1171 01:18:50,920 --> 01:18:52,880 Speaker 1: so I don't believe that it's going to solve any 1172 01:18:52,880 --> 01:18:54,559 Speaker 1: of the problems. So to your point, yes, we're heading 1173 01:18:54,560 --> 01:18:56,759 Speaker 1: to an economic cliff that's going to be a big problem. 1174 01:18:56,760 --> 01:18:59,240 Speaker 1: Switching to a CBDC won't help that because it's still 1175 01:18:59,360 --> 01:19:03,200 Speaker 1: just fiat currency. It will be a tool for surveillance 1176 01:19:03,200 --> 01:19:05,639 Speaker 1: and control one hundred percent, So it's really bad for us, 1177 01:19:05,840 --> 01:19:07,680 Speaker 1: but it doesn't help the government. We can see this 1178 01:19:07,720 --> 01:19:11,520 Speaker 1: in Nigeria right now. Nigeria has launched their own CBDC, 1179 01:19:11,680 --> 01:19:14,160 Speaker 1: they call it the e Niara, but everyone had already 1180 01:19:14,160 --> 01:19:17,760 Speaker 1: started using bitcoin and the government's was trying to incentivize 1181 01:19:17,760 --> 01:19:20,679 Speaker 1: people with discounts to use the CBDC, and the people 1182 01:19:20,720 --> 01:19:23,320 Speaker 1: are like, why would we do that. It's the same 1183 01:19:23,560 --> 01:19:26,160 Speaker 1: Niara that we have now that loses value. It continues 1184 01:19:26,200 --> 01:19:27,960 Speaker 1: to buy less and less goods in the future. So 1185 01:19:28,000 --> 01:19:29,759 Speaker 1: we already have bitcoin. We're going to stick with bitcoin. 1186 01:19:29,800 --> 01:19:32,000 Speaker 1: Now they're imposing the sticks. So they tried to carret, 1187 01:19:32,040 --> 01:19:35,080 Speaker 1: now they're trying to stick. So CBDCs don't help the 1188 01:19:35,120 --> 01:19:37,320 Speaker 1: government debt or the financial cliff that we're heading to. 1189 01:19:37,680 --> 01:19:41,720 Speaker 1: It does help the surveillance state. Back to kind of 1190 01:19:42,560 --> 01:19:46,679 Speaker 1: the piece about bitcoin though, is I was a speaker 1191 01:19:46,720 --> 01:19:48,680 Speaker 1: at the Bitcoin Conference. I'll be speaking there again at 1192 01:19:48,680 --> 01:19:50,599 Speaker 1: the Bitcoin Conference though. If you're listening to this, come 1193 01:19:50,640 --> 01:19:52,800 Speaker 1: to the Bitcoin Conference then come check it out, and 1194 01:19:52,840 --> 01:19:54,519 Speaker 1: if you want to come back, I'd love to invite you. 1195 01:19:55,920 --> 01:19:58,200 Speaker 1: Be careful of what brock Pierre says, because he talks 1196 01:19:58,200 --> 01:20:01,760 Speaker 1: about blockchain and cryptocurrency, which is a big difference. And 1197 01:20:01,800 --> 01:20:04,200 Speaker 1: so you know the problem going back to Golden by 1198 01:20:04,240 --> 01:20:06,160 Speaker 1: the way, they I was supposed to speak at the 1199 01:20:06,160 --> 01:20:09,120 Speaker 1: Miami conference, but I was considered to be too controversial, 1200 01:20:09,160 --> 01:20:11,479 Speaker 1: and they that's why I ended up just being able 1201 01:20:11,479 --> 01:20:13,720 Speaker 1: to talk to the way. Okay, well either way, I'll 1202 01:20:13,760 --> 01:20:16,000 Speaker 1: be there. I'm also I saw you at the Freedom 1203 01:20:16,040 --> 01:20:18,000 Speaker 1: Fest last year. I was a speaker there. I didn't 1204 01:20:18,000 --> 01:20:19,200 Speaker 1: get to talk to you. I'll be speaking at the 1205 01:20:19,200 --> 01:20:21,160 Speaker 1: Freedom Fest this year too, if you're happening to be there. 1206 01:20:22,360 --> 01:20:25,360 Speaker 1: But anyway, um, you know the problem. I'm a goldbug. 1207 01:20:25,439 --> 01:20:27,200 Speaker 1: I love gold, I still buy gold, I still talk 1208 01:20:27,240 --> 01:20:29,240 Speaker 1: about gold. But the problem is gold doesn't work in 1209 01:20:29,320 --> 01:20:32,439 Speaker 1: any digital age. And so the the attack vector is 1210 01:20:32,479 --> 01:20:36,000 Speaker 1: the economic warfare. And so you as a content creator, 1211 01:20:36,280 --> 01:20:39,000 Speaker 1: you know you need sponsors, you need money to live, 1212 01:20:39,040 --> 01:20:40,840 Speaker 1: and so it's very easy to cut off your your 1213 01:20:40,920 --> 01:20:44,439 Speaker 1: your payment accounts, your PayPal account, your credit card accounts. Yeah, 1214 01:20:44,560 --> 01:20:48,160 Speaker 1: that's that was the reveal in Canada with Justin Trudeau 1215 01:20:48,240 --> 01:20:52,080 Speaker 1: and Christopher Friedland, right, And so as a content creator, 1216 01:20:52,160 --> 01:20:55,200 Speaker 1: you could easily set up where you could accept bitcoin 1217 01:20:55,320 --> 01:20:58,000 Speaker 1: directly through and that can't be stopped. Now, could they 1218 01:20:58,040 --> 01:21:00,799 Speaker 1: make it illegal? Sure, just like they've made drugs illegal 1219 01:21:01,040 --> 01:21:02,920 Speaker 1: and look how well that's worked, right, And so they 1220 01:21:03,240 --> 01:21:07,320 Speaker 1: can certainly try to make things illegal. History shows that 1221 01:21:07,400 --> 01:21:10,040 Speaker 1: making things illegal doesn't really stop them. And when they 1222 01:21:10,040 --> 01:21:11,519 Speaker 1: tell you not to do drugs, it doesn't make you 1223 01:21:11,520 --> 01:21:13,160 Speaker 1: want to do drugs. When they tell you don't have 1224 01:21:13,160 --> 01:21:17,720 Speaker 1: a right to store your money or transact without the 1225 01:21:17,760 --> 01:21:19,600 Speaker 1: government stealing from you, then it sort of makes you 1226 01:21:19,640 --> 01:21:21,240 Speaker 1: want to do that. So I think they do their 1227 01:21:21,240 --> 01:21:25,479 Speaker 1: own marketing for them. So just in the future of 1228 01:21:25,520 --> 01:21:29,559 Speaker 1: a decentralized world, knowing that the FIAT money gives them 1229 01:21:29,640 --> 01:21:32,640 Speaker 1: the source of all their power, and not only is 1230 01:21:32,680 --> 01:21:35,320 Speaker 1: it the source of their power, it's also their weapon. 1231 01:21:37,160 --> 01:21:39,000 Speaker 1: There's a tool that we have to counter that. There's 1232 01:21:39,040 --> 01:21:41,559 Speaker 1: only one Gold just doesn't work because I can't send 1233 01:21:41,560 --> 01:21:45,400 Speaker 1: you gold right now. So anyway, it's worth it's worth 1234 01:21:45,479 --> 01:21:49,160 Speaker 1: keeping an eye on. I'm so we're I think we're 1235 01:21:49,200 --> 01:21:53,920 Speaker 1: aligned that there are a number of challenges in envisioning 1236 01:21:54,080 --> 01:21:59,719 Speaker 1: a decentralized world. In envisioning a world of let's say, 1237 01:22:00,400 --> 01:22:05,519 Speaker 1: semi autonomous galtz Gulch entities, um, we could call them 1238 01:22:05,520 --> 01:22:11,400 Speaker 1: intentional communities. That sounds fancier than Gultz Gulch, but um 1239 01:22:12,200 --> 01:22:16,360 Speaker 1: in a in a decentralized world, which I think is 1240 01:22:16,400 --> 01:22:20,800 Speaker 1: the only way we get to a future that has 1241 01:22:20,520 --> 01:22:24,400 Speaker 1: a snowball's chance in hell of realizing the full potential 1242 01:22:24,400 --> 01:22:29,280 Speaker 1: of the human species is a network to decentralized world 1243 01:22:29,280 --> 01:22:32,320 Speaker 1: in in a sense we can see the outlines of 1244 01:22:32,320 --> 01:22:36,280 Speaker 1: that and occasionally the glimmer of that potential future for 1245 01:22:36,400 --> 01:22:40,080 Speaker 1: humanity in some of the positive aspects of what's happened 1246 01:22:40,080 --> 01:22:44,240 Speaker 1: on the web from time to time, uh, particularly before 1247 01:22:44,280 --> 01:22:48,519 Speaker 1: it started to be so corporate controlled. Uh. And but 1248 01:22:48,680 --> 01:22:51,320 Speaker 1: as you what, I'm what I'm wrastling with on a 1249 01:22:51,439 --> 01:22:55,080 Speaker 1: daily basis in this mission of trying to come up 1250 01:22:55,120 --> 01:22:58,960 Speaker 1: with a vision for the future that's positive and that's 1251 01:22:59,040 --> 01:23:01,000 Speaker 1: you know, part of why that tagline is in the 1252 01:23:01,040 --> 01:23:06,600 Speaker 1: book is how do we envision a future using a 1253 01:23:06,720 --> 01:23:10,240 Speaker 1: system that has never existed before? And so what I 1254 01:23:10,280 --> 01:23:12,800 Speaker 1: find is when we start talking to folks about this, 1255 01:23:13,240 --> 01:23:17,160 Speaker 1: what does this future look like? We have to have 1256 01:23:17,600 --> 01:23:23,800 Speaker 1: a token based exchange of some kind, because obviously barter 1257 01:23:24,000 --> 01:23:27,080 Speaker 1: is not scalable. As you're just saying about gold, you know, 1258 01:23:27,080 --> 01:23:30,720 Speaker 1: whether it's gold or grain or other tangibles. It's it's 1259 01:23:30,760 --> 01:23:33,160 Speaker 1: just not scalable. We have to have some token that 1260 01:23:33,200 --> 01:23:37,840 Speaker 1: we can exchange. I agree that bitcoin provides the best 1261 01:23:37,880 --> 01:23:41,680 Speaker 1: current solution to that. We also have to have solutions 1262 01:23:41,720 --> 01:23:47,400 Speaker 1: that allow the connectivity between these cells or pods or 1263 01:23:47,520 --> 01:23:53,600 Speaker 1: autonomous communities, and that's a real challenge because there's a 1264 01:23:53,840 --> 01:23:56,120 Speaker 1: you know, we talk then we start talking about Web 1265 01:23:56,200 --> 01:24:00,519 Speaker 1: three and tunneling capabilities and what can we do because 1266 01:24:00,520 --> 01:24:03,800 Speaker 1: we really can't afford to build a new web and 1267 01:24:04,160 --> 01:24:06,960 Speaker 1: how do you operate that? And you quickly find yourself 1268 01:24:07,040 --> 01:24:09,640 Speaker 1: in the landscape of where you're going to have to 1269 01:24:09,680 --> 01:24:12,479 Speaker 1: have some form of censorship. We can all agree that 1270 01:24:12,560 --> 01:24:15,880 Speaker 1: we don't want to have fragments of snuff films stored 1271 01:24:15,920 --> 01:24:21,120 Speaker 1: on our laptops, right and so we find ourselves right 1272 01:24:21,120 --> 01:24:25,160 Speaker 1: back in the same place that has given rise to 1273 01:24:25,240 --> 01:24:31,400 Speaker 1: our current slice of censorship. Hell, And I don't know 1274 01:24:31,439 --> 01:24:34,040 Speaker 1: what the answers are. And when I engage with people, 1275 01:24:34,120 --> 01:24:36,360 Speaker 1: I hear things like, oh, we should set up a 1276 01:24:36,439 --> 01:24:39,720 Speaker 1: think tank to solve that problem, and I feel like 1277 01:24:39,800 --> 01:24:42,120 Speaker 1: slamming my head against the wall when I hear that. 1278 01:24:42,640 --> 01:24:45,360 Speaker 1: You know, it's going right back to the same thinking 1279 01:24:45,400 --> 01:24:48,200 Speaker 1: and solutions that have failed us. So I think this 1280 01:24:48,280 --> 01:24:51,759 Speaker 1: is one of our biggest challenges. And the bitcoin folks 1281 01:24:51,800 --> 01:24:55,080 Speaker 1: are the closest to grappling with a lot of these 1282 01:24:55,120 --> 01:24:57,920 Speaker 1: things as far as I'm concerned, that they're the most 1283 01:24:58,080 --> 01:25:02,040 Speaker 1: free thinkers of the freethinkers that I've encountered. But there's 1284 01:25:02,080 --> 01:25:04,720 Speaker 1: still a bunch of intrinsic problems that we have in 1285 01:25:04,880 --> 01:25:08,160 Speaker 1: moving forward to this, And as far as I'm concerned, 1286 01:25:08,360 --> 01:25:11,240 Speaker 1: what I think I can do is help structure some 1287 01:25:11,320 --> 01:25:15,680 Speaker 1: pathways forward for allowing us to help to work on 1288 01:25:15,720 --> 01:25:18,519 Speaker 1: these issues. But when I hear people that come to 1289 01:25:18,600 --> 01:25:23,320 Speaker 1: me saying, Oh, I've got the solution, I generally want 1290 01:25:23,320 --> 01:25:28,240 Speaker 1: to run over. Yeah, Well it's a there's no there's 1291 01:25:28,240 --> 01:25:30,880 Speaker 1: no silver bullet, right. There's lots of solutions that we 1292 01:25:30,920 --> 01:25:34,400 Speaker 1: need for lots of problems that we have, but certainly 1293 01:25:34,439 --> 01:25:38,040 Speaker 1: dealing with the economic weapon, there's a solution for that piece, 1294 01:25:38,080 --> 01:25:40,599 Speaker 1: but it doesn't stop all the other problems. To your point, Um, 1295 01:25:41,080 --> 01:25:43,599 Speaker 1: I think there's something and I think what you're saying, 1296 01:25:43,600 --> 01:25:46,479 Speaker 1: and I would agree with it's very difficult when we're 1297 01:25:46,479 --> 01:25:50,519 Speaker 1: in an existing system to imagine a new system, and 1298 01:25:50,560 --> 01:25:51,680 Speaker 1: so what we threw up. What we try to do 1299 01:25:51,720 --> 01:25:53,479 Speaker 1: is we try to think about how can we take 1300 01:25:53,520 --> 01:25:56,040 Speaker 1: what we have and mold and adapt it into this 1301 01:25:56,040 --> 01:25:59,120 Speaker 1: different world, and how does that transition look? But we 1302 01:25:59,200 --> 01:26:01,680 Speaker 1: have to imagine it's just very difficult to see a 1303 01:26:01,720 --> 01:26:04,479 Speaker 1: new system when we're stuck in one. So have you 1304 01:26:04,479 --> 01:26:06,799 Speaker 1: ever read the book by Thomas Kuhne called The Structure 1305 01:26:06,800 --> 01:26:09,080 Speaker 1: of Scientific That's a good one to add to your 1306 01:26:09,400 --> 01:26:12,360 Speaker 1: reading list, given how your mind works. I have not, 1307 01:26:12,560 --> 01:26:14,960 Speaker 1: but it sounds like a good one. Thomas Kuhne is 1308 01:26:14,960 --> 01:26:19,639 Speaker 1: the one that gave us the language structure of scientific revolutions. 1309 01:26:19,400 --> 01:26:24,479 Speaker 1: He's the one that gave us the language of paradigm shifts. 1310 01:26:24,840 --> 01:26:29,160 Speaker 1: And what happens again and again in systems is they 1311 01:26:29,240 --> 01:26:34,000 Speaker 1: become kind of locked into a given solutions set that 1312 01:26:34,200 --> 01:26:37,720 Speaker 1: is useful for solving the problems of the day. And 1313 01:26:37,760 --> 01:26:41,960 Speaker 1: then over time it gets optimized to the point where 1314 01:26:42,120 --> 01:26:46,599 Speaker 1: it has achieved its maximum value within that existing system, 1315 01:26:46,960 --> 01:26:50,880 Speaker 1: and you accumulate more and more and more unsolvable problems, 1316 01:26:51,120 --> 01:26:54,920 Speaker 1: which is basically what you're talking about, And then there 1317 01:26:55,000 --> 01:26:58,240 Speaker 1: needs to be what will occur at some point in 1318 01:26:58,320 --> 01:27:04,519 Speaker 1: time is truly transformational thinking or innovation and you will 1319 01:27:04,520 --> 01:27:09,600 Speaker 1: suddenly see this kind of quantum shift or disruption in 1320 01:27:09,640 --> 01:27:12,120 Speaker 1: the entire system. This is why, of course, all the vcs, 1321 01:27:12,160 --> 01:27:15,120 Speaker 1: I'm sure you have touch points with the Silicon Valley 1322 01:27:15,600 --> 01:27:20,160 Speaker 1: Sandhill Road community while they're all looking for disruptive technologies, 1323 01:27:20,200 --> 01:27:25,120 Speaker 1: because that's basically saying, we're identifying things that will disrupt 1324 01:27:25,160 --> 01:27:29,960 Speaker 1: that structured solutions set that currently exists. And when you 1325 01:27:30,080 --> 01:27:35,040 Speaker 1: do that, then you have this huge explosion of new 1326 01:27:35,040 --> 01:27:38,680 Speaker 1: innovation that occurs, and that I think is going to 1327 01:27:38,760 --> 01:27:41,320 Speaker 1: be what will happen. But you can't predict when it 1328 01:27:41,360 --> 01:27:45,120 Speaker 1: happens and where it comes from, but you can set 1329 01:27:45,200 --> 01:27:48,240 Speaker 1: up conditions that favor its creation. And that's why I 1330 01:27:48,280 --> 01:27:51,320 Speaker 1: recommend that book Structure of Scientific Revolutions to you, is 1331 01:27:51,360 --> 01:27:56,840 Speaker 1: because there are certain characteristics that seem to be predictive 1332 01:27:57,040 --> 01:28:02,519 Speaker 1: of environments in which these disruptive events can occur. And 1333 01:28:02,760 --> 01:28:04,840 Speaker 1: I think that's what the likes of you and I 1334 01:28:04,880 --> 01:28:08,960 Speaker 1: can do is to try to set the stage to 1335 01:28:09,000 --> 01:28:15,439 Speaker 1: empower and enable this kind of disruptive thinking. And you know, 1336 01:28:15,479 --> 01:28:18,800 Speaker 1: with problems comes solutions. And I'm super bullish on what 1337 01:28:18,840 --> 01:28:21,719 Speaker 1: happens when millions of entrepreneurs or backs are against the wall. 1338 01:28:22,479 --> 01:28:24,559 Speaker 1: So we're starting to see lots of good solutions coming 1339 01:28:24,560 --> 01:28:30,559 Speaker 1: out and I'm hopeful in that. Man, we've covered a 1340 01:28:30,560 --> 01:28:32,919 Speaker 1: lot of ground. We went way longer than I had intended, 1341 01:28:32,960 --> 01:28:34,599 Speaker 1: and there's still so much we could still so much 1342 01:28:34,640 --> 01:28:36,680 Speaker 1: we could cover, but we'll have to cut it off 1343 01:28:36,680 --> 01:28:40,120 Speaker 1: at some point. Man, you're a You're a wealth of information. 1344 01:28:40,240 --> 01:28:43,720 Speaker 1: I've enjoyed listening to you. I recommend everyone subscribe to 1345 01:28:43,720 --> 01:28:46,479 Speaker 1: your substacker and a link to that down below, as 1346 01:28:46,520 --> 01:28:50,120 Speaker 1: well as your book lies government told me. Anything else 1347 01:28:50,120 --> 01:28:51,920 Speaker 1: that you want to say kind of to wrap this 1348 01:28:52,040 --> 01:28:56,800 Speaker 1: up or call attention to Yeah, um, it's I think 1349 01:28:56,800 --> 01:29:00,720 Speaker 1: it's really important to not just be dark. And we 1350 01:29:00,840 --> 01:29:02,880 Speaker 1: just talked about a lot of dark stuff, and people 1351 01:29:02,880 --> 01:29:04,240 Speaker 1: that listen to this are going to want to go 1352 01:29:04,280 --> 01:29:08,920 Speaker 1: out and shoot themselves. You don't have to be a victim. 1353 01:29:10,640 --> 01:29:14,439 Speaker 1: That's the big message here. We have those that have 1354 01:29:14,520 --> 01:29:18,960 Speaker 1: been damaged by various medical procedures, those that have been 1355 01:29:19,040 --> 01:29:23,759 Speaker 1: damaged by various public policies over the last three years, 1356 01:29:23,800 --> 01:29:28,040 Speaker 1: those that have been damaged by the information warfare. You 1357 01:29:28,080 --> 01:29:31,320 Speaker 1: can choose to be a victim or you can choose 1358 01:29:31,400 --> 01:29:34,360 Speaker 1: to be a warrior. And we've talked about ways in 1359 01:29:34,400 --> 01:29:37,480 Speaker 1: which you can become a warrior. You can be empowered, 1360 01:29:37,640 --> 01:29:41,840 Speaker 1: you can fight back, you are not helpless in this 1361 01:29:42,320 --> 01:29:47,760 Speaker 1: information battleground. If you gain the knowledge of how the 1362 01:29:47,800 --> 01:29:53,240 Speaker 1: game is being played against you, you can become a soldier, 1363 01:29:53,800 --> 01:29:57,000 Speaker 1: you can become a warrior. And absolutely one of the 1364 01:29:57,080 --> 01:30:01,479 Speaker 1: key parameters in fifth gen warfare is it's leaderless. It's 1365 01:30:01,520 --> 01:30:04,799 Speaker 1: completely decentralized, which means you can not only be a warrior, 1366 01:30:04,880 --> 01:30:08,799 Speaker 1: you can be a leader. And a decentralized leadership model 1367 01:30:09,000 --> 01:30:13,479 Speaker 1: is absolutely the most effective in asymmetric warfare because the 1368 01:30:13,720 --> 01:30:18,120 Speaker 1: unknown shadow opponents don't know who to hit. One of 1369 01:30:18,120 --> 01:30:21,280 Speaker 1: the problems with me being high profile is I take 1370 01:30:21,320 --> 01:30:23,760 Speaker 1: a hell of a lot of the flak, you know. 1371 01:30:23,880 --> 01:30:28,519 Speaker 1: I talked about the recent Cochrane review that showed that 1372 01:30:29,000 --> 01:30:33,840 Speaker 1: masking doesn't work, and the fact checkers were on me 1373 01:30:33,960 --> 01:30:39,200 Speaker 1: like flies because of the profile that I have, which 1374 01:30:39,280 --> 01:30:41,679 Speaker 1: kind of gives cover for everybody else. But the point 1375 01:30:41,800 --> 01:30:45,280 Speaker 1: is that we can all be in this battle, and 1376 01:30:45,560 --> 01:30:48,680 Speaker 1: I think that's the way we can move forward. I 1377 01:30:48,720 --> 01:30:53,120 Speaker 1: think that's the positive vision that and as George Orwell said, 1378 01:30:53,439 --> 01:30:56,960 Speaker 1: we need to move forward in a decentralized way. To 1379 01:30:57,080 --> 01:31:00,960 Speaker 1: build that decentralized set of solutions so that we don't 1380 01:31:00,960 --> 01:31:04,760 Speaker 1: have to have our children live in this indentured servitude 1381 01:31:04,920 --> 01:31:09,040 Speaker 1: dark matrix like vision. You know, that's somewhere between Mad 1382 01:31:09,120 --> 01:31:13,799 Speaker 1: Max and a Terminator. You know, we've all seen those movies. 1383 01:31:13,840 --> 01:31:15,519 Speaker 1: We don't have to have our kids live in that. 1384 01:31:16,200 --> 01:31:19,360 Speaker 1: And I think that's that's the positive, is we can 1385 01:31:19,479 --> 01:31:25,320 Speaker 1: be empowered, particularly in this information battleground, that the challenge 1386 01:31:25,439 --> 01:31:29,080 Speaker 1: is to not become the enemy. And there are those 1387 01:31:29,120 --> 01:31:31,120 Speaker 1: who say they do it to us, and so we 1388 01:31:31,160 --> 01:31:33,160 Speaker 1: can do it to them. They lie at us, so 1389 01:31:33,200 --> 01:31:37,080 Speaker 1: we should lie at them. They they breach ethical boundaries 1390 01:31:37,120 --> 01:31:38,960 Speaker 1: all the time, and so we should be able to 1391 01:31:38,960 --> 01:31:42,280 Speaker 1: breach ethical boundaries. And I argue that that is the 1392 01:31:42,400 --> 01:31:46,800 Speaker 1: road to help. That's how we become the enemy. This 1393 01:31:46,920 --> 01:31:49,439 Speaker 1: is a lesson that's been taught in literature, in the 1394 01:31:49,560 --> 01:31:53,519 Speaker 1: in the Rings trilogy, and in everything again and again 1395 01:31:53,560 --> 01:31:58,160 Speaker 1: and again. So don't do it. Maintain higher standards, respect 1396 01:31:58,240 --> 01:32:03,600 Speaker 1: human dignity, commit yourself to integrity, and build community. Community 1397 01:32:03,720 --> 01:32:06,720 Speaker 1: is the thing that makes us resilient and able to 1398 01:32:06,760 --> 01:32:10,240 Speaker 1: resist all the propaganda and the other garbage that they're 1399 01:32:10,280 --> 01:32:14,000 Speaker 1: throwing at us over man, I love it. That's that's 1400 01:32:14,040 --> 01:32:17,000 Speaker 1: my message. Don't be a victim. It's dark and scary, 1401 01:32:17,080 --> 01:32:18,960 Speaker 1: but uh and and and and it's and it's and 1402 01:32:18,960 --> 01:32:20,519 Speaker 1: it's gonna be a fight, it's gonna be a work. 1403 01:32:20,680 --> 01:32:23,920 Speaker 1: But what I believe we win, UM so amazing. Like 1404 01:32:23,920 --> 01:32:25,240 Speaker 1: I said, we're gonna link to everything that you have 1405 01:32:25,280 --> 01:32:28,240 Speaker 1: down below. Uh man, what a great conversation. I really 1406 01:32:28,240 --> 01:32:30,519 Speaker 1: appreciate you taking the time. Thanks Mark, it's been fun. 1407 01:32:30,680 --> 01:32:33,559 Speaker 1: I appreciate everything that you're doing. Continue to spread this message. 1408 01:32:33,600 --> 01:32:36,000 Speaker 1: We're gonna keep pounding the table on this and with 1409 01:32:36,120 --> 01:32:36,960 Speaker 1: that we'll sign it off.