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Speaker 1: Don Tyler Murray that defender is in multiple pieces. All

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Speaker 1: that was nasty. Writer writes the latest news and notes

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Speaker 1: from the insiders who cover the team. Drilled by Simmons.

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Speaker 1: Isaiah Simmons is bawling, Bring it on, Bring it on.

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Speaker 1: Slim the ground by Buda Baker like a torpedo. He

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Speaker 1: came flying into the backfield. I ain't scared nobody. Here's

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Speaker 1: Paul Calvc. Okay, so obviously I'm not Paul Calvic, although

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Speaker 1: he's here and you will get plenty of Paul Calvic.

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Speaker 1: I'm here, um, but I had to open the show here, guys,

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Speaker 1: because this has been weighing on me heavy for pretty

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Speaker 1: much since about fifteen minutes after we got off the

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Speaker 1: air last week. For the podcast. By the way, Danny

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Speaker 1: just stood up in her chair, literally on the edge

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Speaker 1: of her seat, right. I mean, there's been a couple

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Speaker 1: of sleepless nights. I wasn't sure exactly how I was

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Speaker 1: gonna get through this. But I got back to my desk,

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Speaker 1: I'm writing up the description of last week's podcast and

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Speaker 1: all that stuff, and I flipped over my bingo card.

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Speaker 1: Oh come on, and I realized I already I got

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Speaker 1: bingo last week, and I forgot to say, oh, you're

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Speaker 1: going to try and cheat for a second time. I

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Speaker 1: was so waiting for him to say hiza last week,

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Speaker 1: which he never did, that I didn't realize I had

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Speaker 1: the diagonal bingo already, and it was just that a

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Speaker 1: thing diagonal bingo is that allowed in all bingo holes diagonals.

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Speaker 1: Getting a little suspicious that the first time you got

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Speaker 1: a bingo, you led the witness aka Paul into saying

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Speaker 1: what you needed and now all of a sudden, in hindsight,

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Speaker 1: you had bingo, but nobody was there when it actually happened,

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Speaker 1: or you didn't make it known when it actually happened.

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying it's getting a little sus I understand that.

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Speaker 1: And now we don't have new new Bingo cards because

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Speaker 1: I understand that I leave. I realized that the point

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Speaker 1: this was going to be a problem all the way around.

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Speaker 1: I realized Danny was not going to let this go.

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Speaker 1: I realized that she tends to uh, she tends to

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Speaker 1: what Darren? Nothing nothing, forget that. I'm going to move

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Speaker 1: on from this this podcast. What were the word brought

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Speaker 1: to you? Bright? There was who Darren brought to you by?

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Speaker 1: Who you see? You got to write it down, Darren,

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Speaker 1: if you're gonna start, if you're gonna start cardinals underund automation,

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Speaker 1: you got to write it down to top of the

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Speaker 1: I'm riled up, Paul. Let me tell you. Let's get going.

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Speaker 1: When leading the witness becomes badgering the witness, meaning yours truly,

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Speaker 1: I'm going to hr I'm just gonna making that known

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Speaker 1: right now. So I'll go with you across is the

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Speaker 1: line at some point and bring the bingo card because

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Speaker 1: we're gonna have that reviewed by a separate entity. Somebody

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Speaker 1: on Twitter did recommend when I posted on Twitter last

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Speaker 1: week after the show and I was wearing my shirt

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Speaker 1: that Darren got us that's right from the combine that

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Speaker 1: that's a great idea. If that one beg to differ

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Speaker 1: on that one, Darren, what were the words? What were

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Speaker 1: oh the words that I had CALVCI consulting, which I

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Speaker 1: believe was like three weeks ago. Yeah, ding I had,

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Speaker 1: I had ding too, I had crumbles, crumbles paper and

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Speaker 1: then taps Mike. I didn't have taps Mike on my

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Speaker 1: So it changed a lot of the dynam I feel.

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Speaker 1: I feel so profiled. Well, you you have your list

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Speaker 1: from last week of things that we shouldn't say, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we'll get into that. Well, that's on a year on

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Speaker 1: a need to know basis. When it comes to that,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna get nailed. I figure, you know, if Meek

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Speaker 1: who Meek Mill is, then of course I do. I

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Speaker 1: I mean, if if Blank was talking about two chains,

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Speaker 1: if players can now wear the numbers zero in the NFL,

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Speaker 1: the way, who is worthy of the number zero? Because

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Speaker 1: that was breaking news on the Red Sea Report. Craig

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Speaker 1: Riolu brought that up. Literally, he shows it, shows you

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Speaker 1: moves true. That's true. And what we'll reverse engineer into

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Speaker 1: that in a moment exactly what was and wasn't headline

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Speaker 1: the last forty eight hours. But the number zero can't

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Speaker 1: truly I jumped so on a few times. I actually

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Speaker 1: had the audacity to cut off Kyle Vannimbosch and I

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Speaker 1: just said, there's only one guy in this roster right here,

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Speaker 1: right now that you instantly can associate with number zero,

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Speaker 1: and it would be I think we all agree, Baker. Now,

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Speaker 1: this a little bit more. Will Anderson upon entering into

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Speaker 1: the NFL, do you give zero to a rookie? Well?

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Speaker 1: Are so we're saying zero is a really big deal

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Speaker 1: because nobody's worn it correct. So then I guess if

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Speaker 1: it can only be an elite talent wearing zero correct.

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Speaker 1: They're not gonna would give it to disagree. Well, first

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Speaker 1: of all, there's a couple of things. Buddha Baker changing

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Speaker 1: in his NFL career, it was thirty six, that's right,

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Speaker 1: and then two now three, and now we're talking about changing. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: fans might not be happy having a Buddha Baker. Would

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Speaker 1: I mean, Dalvin Cook didn't change his number for an

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Speaker 1: and I speculated this when I wrote about it yesterday

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Speaker 1: But you're right on Buddha Baker, especially since his profile.

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Speaker 1: You would think his personal brand only elevated with Hard

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Speaker 1: Knocks all of last season. That's true. I'm wondering. I'm wondering, honestly,

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Speaker 1: I'm wondering how many more Buddha Baker jerseys were sold

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Speaker 1: But we'll see number zero. I'm just thinking it has

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Speaker 1: to go to someone who's worthy of that, Like if

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Speaker 1: you're Georgia, right, a Georgia football, they only give it

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Speaker 1: to a five star, blue chip to performer. If Will

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Speaker 1: Anderson gets drafted, I mean, you're talking about making him

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Speaker 1: of zero as a Jersey number. And I think people

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Speaker 1: were thinking, Oh, maybe he'll go because of debo that

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Speaker 1: he might want to change. Could work, Yeah, that could well.

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Speaker 1: Look whether it's a Kaiser or White or some of

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Speaker 1: these other you know names that have been added slowly

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Speaker 1: at Paul Kelbasy that perhaps the Cardinals rebuilding the method

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Speaker 1: to the madness right now. He's trying to construct a

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Speaker 1: you know, a Kelvin Beecham, who could easily be our

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Speaker 1: governor right now. He's so well spoken and accomplished, but

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Speaker 1: you get them between the white lines and he'll fight you.

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Speaker 1: So I'm wondering if that this rebuild retool, reset, whatever

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Speaker 1: in mind first instead of skill set. Mindset has been

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Speaker 1: I would imagine that's not just with Gannon, but also

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Speaker 1: with general manager Manny Awesome for it. I feel like

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Speaker 1: if you are truly going to try and change the culture,

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Speaker 1: that needs to start with the mindset and what are

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Speaker 1: the expectations of the players that you're retaining, the players

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Speaker 1: you're bringing in, the coaches, front office staff, all of that.

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Speaker 1: with the players, but also kind of setting that precedence

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Speaker 1: the standards that we're setting. Like, for example, of a

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Speaker 1: Will Anderson comes in, it makes perfect sense not only

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Speaker 1: the cardinals dire need for an edge rusher, not only

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Speaker 1: the fact he's highly decorated and skilled, but the thing

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Speaker 1: already here we go with the paper Trump, I've already

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Speaker 1: written it down. I have Will Anderson penciled into the

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Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals either at three or four. I just want

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Speaker 1: you to know that I'm operating that auspices going forward sidebar,

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Speaker 1: I think we should make a call in audible right

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Speaker 1: now and say continue on these beingo boards and we'll

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Speaker 1: do blackout style where you have to get every single

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Speaker 1: one on your board to end. We'll continue that way.

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Speaker 1: I do think that's interesting, Paul. Now going back on

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Speaker 1: track of when you say three or four, because now

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Speaker 1: with the swirling news of Lamar Jackson, who on social

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Speaker 1: media recently said he had asked for a trade and

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Speaker 1: made it clear he does not want to stay in Baltimore,

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Speaker 1: which isn't entirely up to him. But some of the

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Speaker 1: teams I was seeing that might make sense or might

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Speaker 1: be interested. One of them was Indianapolis, and so that

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Speaker 1: would be really interesting if that somehow pans out before

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Speaker 1: the draft. How does that affect the Cardinals. I mean,

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Speaker 1: maybe you just stay with there in terms of you

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Speaker 1: stay with three, Is that going to affect another team

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Speaker 1: who wants to trade up because we've been talking about

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Speaker 1: ideally you would trade down to four still get who

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Speaker 1: you want and get some extra capital. Yep, I agree,

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Speaker 1: I got it. Why wouldn't whether he plays in Baltimore

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Speaker 1: like the tech with the Ravens. Yeah, Lamar, he's got

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Speaker 1: he's been franchise tagged, right, so it's it is completely

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Speaker 1: if he signs it, he'll play there, right, the Ravens

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Speaker 1: will take him back. That's his choice. But if he

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Speaker 1: due respect to DeAndre Hopkins, he's already had He's going

427
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Speaker 1: to be on the downslope of his career. That's just

428
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Speaker 1: what the time line says. Not that he's playing like that.

429
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Speaker 1: It's just it's tough. It would be tough. I think

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Speaker 1: in some ways it would be a tough sell for Tennessee. Maybe,

431
00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:09,119
Speaker 1: but once again, their need is real for a number

432
00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:12,760
Speaker 1: one receiver that was a serious hole in their offense

433
00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:14,800
Speaker 1: a year ago, and maybe they need to generate a

434
00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:18,240
Speaker 1: little fanfare as well as they make their drive for

435
00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:21,040
Speaker 1: their brand new stadium. And who knows what else goes

436
00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:24,800
Speaker 1: into it. Always looking at that big picture stuff. And

437
00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:27,159
Speaker 1: you know what, Sean Payton came out and said, guess what,

438
00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:30,200
Speaker 1: the Broncos are not trading Jerry Judy and Courtland Sutton

439
00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:32,560
Speaker 1: because there was a lot of noise about that, and

440
00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:35,960
Speaker 1: he shot that down. Maybe because kJ Hammler tore the

441
00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:39,640
Speaker 1: chess muscle, and Tim Patrick's still coming from coming back

442
00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:42,399
Speaker 1: from their torn ACL. They wiped out his twenty twenty

443
00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:47,040
Speaker 1: two seasons. So guess what now there's even fewer players

444
00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:50,440
Speaker 1: on the trade market. That supply is even less, which

445
00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:53,520
Speaker 1: you would think would ramp up the demand for DeAndre Hopkins.

446
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Speaker 1: What I also find intriguing is what five days ago,

447
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Speaker 1: as of the recording of this, you had that report

448
00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:01,320
Speaker 1: from Jeremy follow who said the Cardinals are standing for

449
00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:04,040
Speaker 1: him and asking for a second round pick. They're looking

450
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Speaker 1: for a Christian McCaffrey type package. Right, And then all

451
00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:10,119
Speaker 1: the blowback from all the other insiders you heard from

452
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Speaker 1: the other teams who are ostensibly in the DeAndre Hopkins market.

453
00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:17,240
Speaker 1: You had James Palmer saying Kansas City is standing standing

454
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Speaker 1: by with Sky Moore and MVS and Kadarius Tony even

455
00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:23,479
Speaker 1: though they lost Juju Smith, Schuster and mcole Hardman. Right.

456
00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:25,639
Speaker 1: Then Albert Brewer came out and said, no, no, no no,

457
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Speaker 1: the Texans. You know the Texans deal where they gave up,

458
00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:31,360
Speaker 1: you know where they got a fifth and a sixth

459
00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:33,760
Speaker 1: or Brandon Cooks, that's more the norm. And then the

460
00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:37,119
Speaker 1: Bills beat writers saying barring a significant development, the bills

461
00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:39,800
Speaker 1: are not trading for a DeAndre Hopkins. By the way,

462
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Speaker 1: It's funny how that happens here. I love when Tim

463
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Speaker 1: Graham tweeted that because I had just I had just

464
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Speaker 1: returned from the the meetings, the annual party that they

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Speaker 1: have at the owners meetings on Monday night. I had

466
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Speaker 1: just left there. I know Tim Graham was at there.

467
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Speaker 1: That's all the g are there, all the coaches are there,

468
00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:06,399
Speaker 1: and I'm just like picturing, like Tim Graham's having a

469
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Speaker 1: drink and he's talking to somebody with the bills and

470
00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:10,760
Speaker 1: bills somebody with the bills as he drinking and said, yeah,

471
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Speaker 1: we're not freaking trading for this guy. I mean, he

472
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Speaker 1: literally tweeted that at like nine forty. So wait a minute, Danny,

473
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Speaker 1: I think you agree that. You know, it's one thing

474
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Speaker 1: to have Darren tell us about the owner's meetings, but

475
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Speaker 1: you know we need to ask him tell us about

476
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Speaker 1: the owner's party. Well, let's hear about the party. Let's

477
00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:29,160
Speaker 1: let's be let's be very frank here, people. Uh, all

478
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Speaker 1: you need to get into that party is a credential,

479
00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:33,600
Speaker 1: and you guys both had credentials. You could have gone

480
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Speaker 1: to the party. I did. I had plans Monday. I

481
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Speaker 1: knew about it, but I had plans on my day.

482
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Speaker 1: I did not know that there was a party, and

483
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Speaker 1: then I had access. I sent you also the little

484
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Speaker 1: game plan of the meetings, and it was in there

485
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Speaker 1: that you were invited to that party. Where was the party?

486
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Speaker 1: Can you say, Oh, it's at the Biltmore? Oh yeah,

487
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Speaker 1: you all? It is is? And it was, and they

488
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Speaker 1: they redid the Billmore since the meetings were there in

489
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Speaker 1: twenty nineteen. So like that metal part is like really

490
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Speaker 1: gorgeous and it's you know, gets. I didn't know that.

491
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Speaker 1: I didn't know that either. A lot of food it was.

492
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Speaker 1: It's it's a it's a nice time next time, Paul canol. Wow,

493
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Speaker 1: that's a yeah, I missed opportunity for Paul. Let's not

494
00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:13,760
Speaker 1: let your better half know about it, because you can

495
00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:16,480
Speaker 1: bring your wife too. Yeah. She enjoyed the super Bowl party,

496
00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:19,160
Speaker 1: that's for sure. So please, uh, nobody, and I mean

497
00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:22,680
Speaker 1: nobody let the better half know about that. What how

498
00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:26,000
Speaker 1: often do the owners meetings come through the asy? Every

499
00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:29,439
Speaker 1: three years or so? I think it's I think it's

500
00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:32,280
Speaker 1: basically every two years now. It used to they used

501
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:35,359
Speaker 1: to bounce. They used to go to Florida. Here Palm

502
00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:38,520
Speaker 1: Springs in Hawaii. They haven't gone to Hawaiian a long time.

503
00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:40,880
Speaker 1: I think they stopped going to Palm Springs. I think

504
00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:44,600
Speaker 1: COVID screwed some things up, but I think ultimately it'll

505
00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:46,879
Speaker 1: I believe it'll be back here in two years. I

506
00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:50,560
Speaker 1: think it bounces back between the breakers in Florida and

507
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:52,680
Speaker 1: the billmore because we knocked it out of the park.

508
00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:54,800
Speaker 1: Dare I say the asy I mean our weather during

509
00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:58,000
Speaker 1: Super Bowl weekend meeting couldn't draw it up anybody. I

510
00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:00,359
Speaker 1: mean that's a double ding. Put that on your bingo

511
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:03,440
Speaker 1: card and smoke at everybody. How about this? What about

512
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:05,600
Speaker 1: some of the other headlines we got? Did Jonathan Gannon

513
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:07,600
Speaker 1: meeting the media, Darren, what do we need to know it?

514
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:10,480
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray? What do you give us on Kyla Murray?

515
00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:12,800
Speaker 1: The rehab update desk? What do we know there? All

516
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:16,600
Speaker 1: he said was that Kyler last week went to Dallas

517
00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:19,560
Speaker 1: to check in with a surgeon. But he's been here.

518
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:23,320
Speaker 1: But he Jonathan Gannon is not going to do any

519
00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:26,720
Speaker 1: timelines on Kyler's injury or any injuries. It sounds like

520
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:29,119
Speaker 1: because he goes it usually blows up in my face,

521
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:33,440
Speaker 1: and so we're just gonna wait and see, which right

522
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:35,560
Speaker 1: now really doesn't mean a whole lot. When we get

523
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:37,800
Speaker 1: too closer to training camp or when we get to

524
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:40,040
Speaker 1: the first part of the season, I'll be interested to

525
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 1: see if he holds to that and if he can't

526
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:44,120
Speaker 1: hold of that. It reminds me a little bit about

527
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:47,679
Speaker 1: the Kevin Durant stuff. It's like, you can say you

528
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:50,320
Speaker 1: don't want to have a timeline, but that doesn't mean

529
00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:52,680
Speaker 1: the questions are going to go away. I mean, I

530
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:55,880
Speaker 1: heard Monty Williams like kind of react poorly to questions

531
00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:59,280
Speaker 1: about Durant, and it's like, you don't get to be mad.

532
00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:01,560
Speaker 1: He's like the best player and everybody's waiting for him

533
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:05,000
Speaker 1: to come back, and you're gonna be vague about stuff,

534
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:07,119
Speaker 1: then the questions are going to keep being asked. And

535
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:09,120
Speaker 1: I have a feeling the same thing's gonna happen with kind.

536
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:11,160
Speaker 1: I mean, he's been a Phoenix Suns player for two

537
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:13,080
Speaker 1: months and he hasn't played a home game yet. You're

538
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:16,320
Speaker 1: gonna get questions. That's the way that's gonna work. Speaking

539
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:19,359
Speaker 1: of injuries, did Jonathan gin him make news with the

540
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:25,680
Speaker 1: Isaiah Simmons comments, here's what I because he said, there's

541
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:28,399
Speaker 1: good news on the health of Isaiah Simmons. And then

542
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:30,200
Speaker 1: he patted his right shoulder. If you look at the

543
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:32,080
Speaker 1: video and you're like, well, wait a minute, what was

544
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:35,000
Speaker 1: his left shoulder? But that's okay, okay, I patted the

545
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:36,919
Speaker 1: wrong one. No, no, you patted the right one. I

546
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:39,120
Speaker 1: do believe I thought it was his left one because

547
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:40,840
Speaker 1: I was sitting there. I thought, oh, maybe it was here.

548
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:45,280
Speaker 1: I don't know, but yeah, I I do wonder significantly

549
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:48,720
Speaker 1: if that must have been a thing. And then I talked.

550
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:51,240
Speaker 1: I was talking to Craig Greeley later, because Gree's the

551
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:54,520
Speaker 1: kind of guy who's going to research the hell out

552
00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:57,320
Speaker 1: of this stuff. And he did, and we remember, and

553
00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:59,600
Speaker 1: he went back and looked in that last in the

554
00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:02,480
Speaker 1: last game of the season, Isaiah Simmons did seem to

555
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 1: jack up his shoulder at one point. I could go

556
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 1: to my sideline reporter notebook because I do put that

557
00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 1: stuff in there if a guy comes over and he's

558
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:12,239
Speaker 1: ailing and hurt, and I do recall him having to

559
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:16,680
Speaker 1: come out. And then and it was in the second

560
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:18,400
Speaker 1: half I think in the game had already kind of

561
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:21,160
Speaker 1: gotten out of hand a little bit. And again because

562
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:23,200
Speaker 1: it was the last game of the season, nobody's there

563
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:27,479
Speaker 1: are no injury reports after that, but that is I'm guessing,

564
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 1: but it was. It was kind of funny though Paul.

565
00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:33,440
Speaker 1: He tapped his shoulder, then he kind of hesitated, and

566
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:36,680
Speaker 1: then he said good news about his health. He didn't

567
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:38,920
Speaker 1: say about his shoulder, but it felt like he was

568
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 1: going there right and then he stopped himself. He kind

569
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:44,080
Speaker 1: of became the hockey head coach. It's an upper body

570
00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 1: injury something like that. Yeah, he Danny. I found it

571
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 1: curious when Jonathan Gannis said, we have a quote a

572
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 1: few guys who can play center have played center. Can

573
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:56,880
Speaker 1: we name names here? I need an update. Who who

574
00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:58,880
Speaker 1: are the guys who have played center or can play

575
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Speaker 1: center at the moment? Sea Smith okay, froh. Yeah, that

576
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:11,240
Speaker 1: to me was really kind of the one thing where

577
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Speaker 1: I'm like not to say like I don't believe it,

578
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:16,320
Speaker 1: because it's true. Right now, they do have players who

579
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:18,640
Speaker 1: have played center, but neither of those are going to

580
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:21,520
Speaker 1: be their starting center. Here's the thing. Especially when I

581
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:25,080
Speaker 1: went back and listened to it, he did say, I've

582
00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:27,560
Speaker 1: got guys who can play center. But then he went

583
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:31,360
Speaker 1: on to basically say, and I'm paraphrasing, but it was

584
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Speaker 1: essentially that can get us through the OTAs in the

585
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:39,160
Speaker 1: off season. Yea. So my feeling is is what he

586
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:43,320
Speaker 1: was saying ultimately was we can go feel the practice

587
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:45,240
Speaker 1: right now now. Is that going to be who we

588
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 1: have in training camp? Is that who gon gonna be

589
00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:49,480
Speaker 1: who we have when we start the season. Probably not.

590
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:52,080
Speaker 1: He didn't say any of those things, but that's kind

591
00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:54,880
Speaker 1: of how I interpreted it because he did make it

592
00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:57,600
Speaker 1: clear about, oh, we if we went on the grass today,

593
00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:00,240
Speaker 1: we have guys who can play center. So I think

594
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:04,400
Speaker 1: that was more of yeah. I mean, it's like everything.

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00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:06,440
Speaker 1: You know they're going to add a center. You know

596
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:11,280
Speaker 1: they're gonna add a left guard. I hope they add

597
00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 1: another guard. But again, Will Hernandez played guard, played left

598
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 1: guard his whole time in the league until he got here.

599
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 1: So could you put Marcus Hayes at right guard and

600
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:24,600
Speaker 1: Will Hernandez a left guard? I think that's still possible.

601
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 1: U Is Josh Jones a possibility at guard? I think

602
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:31,640
Speaker 1: that's still possible. You have Froho, but I think center

603
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 1: is the one spot you definitely would need to do

604
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:39,280
Speaker 1: something at this point. And there's there's other spots like that.

605
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:42,760
Speaker 1: I mean, there's going to be a cornerback that's going

606
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:45,960
Speaker 1: to play for this team that I don't think is

607
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 1: on the roster right now. I'm going to say that

608
00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:49,800
Speaker 1: right now. What if that still happens from a trade.

609
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 1: What if we keep talking about Hopkins trade and it's

610
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 1: not just draft picks. What if it's what the team

611
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:57,000
Speaker 1: and it is for a center or cornerback and a

612
00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:59,480
Speaker 1: lower draft pick. I could see that maybe you trade

613
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 1: from three to four Indianapolis gives you a pick and

614
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:04,480
Speaker 1: a player by the name of Ryan Kellys. See, I

615
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:07,240
Speaker 1: see what you did there. So maybe that's the or

616
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 1: because I already have Will Anderson written in as an

617
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:12,240
Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinal at number four in Indianapolis is gonna give

618
00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:13,840
Speaker 1: up at least a second round pick there, and then

619
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Speaker 1: you're gonna at least get a second round pick in

620
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 1: the d Hop trade. So you're getting that nasty Pro

621
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Speaker 1: Bowl caliber guard, a top round two that you're gonna

622
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 1: plug and play well. And then again, I love the

623
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 1: fact that you bring up the top a round two

624
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 1: because I mean, when this team has been picking high

625
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 1: in drafts. We always focus on who their first pick is,

626
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:39,560
Speaker 1: but who was their second and third round picks? In

627
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 1: the great two thousand and four A draft, it was

628
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:47,160
Speaker 1: Carlos Dansby and Darnell Dockett who were there. Who were

629
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:49,280
Speaker 1: their second and third round picks? When Kyler Murray was

630
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:53,240
Speaker 1: the first pick. Byron Murphy and Zach Allen, you you're

631
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 1: going to get good players in the second and third

632
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 1: round because you're picking so high. That's a great point,

633
00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:01,160
Speaker 1: so Johnathan gain us and also said you don't win

634
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:04,400
Speaker 1: any games in free agency. That was probably his biggest quote,

635
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 1: the biggest sound bite that was run by all the

636
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:11,520
Speaker 1: local TV stations. But what about quarterback? Did it beyond Kyler?

637
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:14,760
Speaker 1: Did he say anything as to whether the Cardinals are

638
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 1: likely or not to add to that quarterback room in

639
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:20,080
Speaker 1: addition to Cole McCoy and David blom I asked him specifically.

640
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Speaker 1: I said, I mean, those are the two questions I

641
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:25,440
Speaker 1: felt like the fans had kind of battered me with.

642
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Speaker 1: All Right, what was the first question? The first one

643
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:29,280
Speaker 1: was why why are they signing so many linebackers in

644
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:32,960
Speaker 1: free agency? I asked that specifically, and he basically said,

645
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:36,720
Speaker 1: it's about having versatility and having people. And I ended

646
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:39,320
Speaker 1: up looking if you're gonna say you're going to a

647
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 1: four to three, and especially if you decide Isaiah Simmons

648
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 1: isn't a linebacker for you. You've only you only had

649
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:51,160
Speaker 1: two other linebackers on the roster, Blake Lynch and David Collins.

650
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:55,520
Speaker 1: So to sign to sign what one of your own

651
00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:59,800
Speaker 1: guys back in Ezekiel Turner and signed Kaiser White and

652
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Speaker 1: Chris Josh Woods and Chris Barnes and Josh Woods. Yeah,

653
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:06,240
Speaker 1: I mean you needed some of those people. And of

654
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:08,799
Speaker 1: course Turner and Woods are special teamers. So there's that.

655
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:11,120
Speaker 1: Um And by the way, real quick think of how

656
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:13,400
Speaker 1: many snaps over the last couple of seasons that you

657
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:16,960
Speaker 1: got out of a Tanner Vallejo, Ben Neeman, Yes, a

658
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:19,520
Speaker 1: Nick Vigil although he's injured most of the last season.

659
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 1: But I mean those guys got a lot of snaps. Yeah,

660
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 1: so there's that. Uh, the quarterback I people want to know,

661
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:29,920
Speaker 1: is he gonna is are these the quarterbacks they're running with?

662
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:34,040
Speaker 1: And he didn't really say that. He said, I I

663
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:36,759
Speaker 1: said are you are you? Are you gonna be going

664
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Speaker 1: with those two guys as your quarterbacks? And he said, well,

665
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 1: the first thing he said was we're always going to

666
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:45,719
Speaker 1: be looking to improve our roster, which he's gonna and

667
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:48,920
Speaker 1: that's with every position, which I that's the vagueness you

668
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:51,959
Speaker 1: love when you hear talk to coaches. So I guess

669
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 1: he's not closing the door. But then he went on

670
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:56,080
Speaker 1: to say how much he was looking forward to working

671
00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:58,600
Speaker 1: with him, and how how much they wanted the playbook,

672
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:01,239
Speaker 1: which I also want to clarify because I know some

673
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 1: people were talking about this on the radio and Arizona Sports.

674
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 1: I don't think they're allowed to have playbooks at this point.

675
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:11,480
Speaker 1: I don't think you're allowed to give players playbooks before

676
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:15,200
Speaker 1: your conditioning program starts. I think it's against the CBA.

677
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:18,239
Speaker 1: So when he said they wanted the playbook, and I said,

678
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:20,359
Speaker 1: oh no, no, not now, I'm not sure he could

679
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:23,520
Speaker 1: have if he wanted to. And so I think there

680
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 1: were some some people wondering, oh, what does that mean

681
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:28,239
Speaker 1: they don't have a playbook yet. No. I don't think

682
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:31,399
Speaker 1: they're allowed to give those out yet because they don't

683
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:33,680
Speaker 1: want teams to be able to say, will we can

684
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:35,359
Speaker 1: give your playbook and you can be working on it

685
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:38,840
Speaker 1: all year long. That sounds correct. When Bruce arians showed up,

686
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 1: he couldn't do the same thing, but Drew stan already

687
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:44,960
Speaker 1: had it yes from being with I think, and we

688
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 1: talked about this on a previous podcast of There's a Chance.

689
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:51,200
Speaker 1: I think that resigning David Blow has a lot to

690
00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:53,560
Speaker 1: do with the fact that Kyler Murray and likely Colt

691
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:58,359
Speaker 1: McCoy aren't going to be ready for off season workouts. Sure,

692
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:01,120
Speaker 1: and you need a quarterback. A lot can still happen.

693
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 1: Maybe they draft the Cardinals draft a quarterback late and

694
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:06,360
Speaker 1: they like him and they want to develop him, and

695
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:09,400
Speaker 1: that's your backup behind Colt. Maybe another team when you

696
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 1: start having to make roster cuts, you have a young

697
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 1: quarterback in a similar sense to what Trace McSorley was.

698
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 1: Maybe never really got that chance, or you want to

699
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:22,759
Speaker 1: see what he has. So I'm not completely set that

700
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:25,240
Speaker 1: your three quarterbacks are going to be Kyler Murray, Colt McCoy,

701
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Speaker 1: and David Blow throughout the season. I think maybe right

702
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:31,719
Speaker 1: now this was just you like David Blow, maybe want

703
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:33,560
Speaker 1: to see more of him, but you also really need

704
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:36,719
Speaker 1: a quarterback through those workouts. Well, you're gonna there's going

705
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:40,439
Speaker 1: to be a fourth quarterback somewhere undrafted, like Danny said,

706
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Speaker 1: maybe drafted later. There's going to be a fourth quarterback,

707
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Speaker 1: especially with Kyler not being able to take part in

708
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 1: the offseason. I'm starting. I've heard some good things about

709
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:52,920
Speaker 1: Colt McCoy being okay in terms of being able to

710
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:57,360
Speaker 1: do offseason stuff. And we'll see again. They're on the

711
00:36:57,400 --> 00:37:00,719
Speaker 1: field for the first time, and I guess this is

712
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:03,840
Speaker 1: since we last podcast, their first time on the field

713
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:08,839
Speaker 1: will be I believe it's April twenty seventh, Draft week.

714
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 1: They get a mini camp, the extra mini camp because

715
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Speaker 1: they have a new coach. That'll be the first time

716
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:15,440
Speaker 1: they can be on the field, I believe. I don't

717
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:17,279
Speaker 1: know if they have any phase to work before then,

718
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:21,360
Speaker 1: so that April eleventh date is just starting with the workouts. Yeah,

719
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:24,040
Speaker 1: it's April eleventh. Is going to be the strength and conditioning.

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Speaker 1: I don't know in Phase two starts, which technically you

721
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:29,160
Speaker 1: can go on the field, but that's the helmetless stuff.

722
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 1: But the first time you can go out there with

723
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Speaker 1: a helmet and do some eleven on eleven is going

724
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Speaker 1: to be Phase three, and that's that would be April

725
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 1: twenty seventh, which they'll do the mini camp that week.

726
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:40,839
Speaker 1: Or the twenty fifth through the twenty seventh. Yeah, because

727
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 1: the twenty seventh is the draft. So the twenty fifth

728
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:46,160
Speaker 1: through the twenty seventh is a voluntary veteran mini camp.

729
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 1: There's the draft, you have two weeks later out of

730
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:52,360
Speaker 1: the rookie minicamp, and in all those will be the

731
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 1: voluntary OTAs will start to t happen. And I can't

732
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 1: believe we're already starting to talk about practice crazy. Speaking

733
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Speaker 1: of helmets, besides the numbers zero, one of the things

734
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Speaker 1: that was did come out of these owners meetings what

735
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Speaker 1: the voting was. And I from the article the guarding caps,

736
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Speaker 1: which were only worn by players of the line of

737
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 1: scrimmage last training camp for a couple of weeks. Right,

738
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Speaker 1: But now, if I'm remembering from your article, it's going

739
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 1: to include running backs as well, and it's during the

740
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:22,440
Speaker 1: season whenever there are contact practices. Correct. So the guarding

741
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:25,399
Speaker 1: caps are those those extra padding things that you see

742
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:27,759
Speaker 1: that some players had on their helmets last year. They're

743
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 1: they're used to try and cut down on the number

744
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 1: of head injuries that you would have. Last year. It

745
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:36,239
Speaker 1: was only through the first two to three weeks of

746
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:39,879
Speaker 1: training camp where they were required now they are going

747
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:44,400
Speaker 1: to be required throughout the entire training camp in preseason,

748
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:49,400
Speaker 1: and any helmet to practice during the season. You must

749
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Speaker 1: wear them if you are an offensive lineman, a defensive lineman,

750
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:55,840
Speaker 1: a tight end, a linebacker, or a running back and

751
00:38:56,000 --> 00:39:01,520
Speaker 1: fullback and fullback. Sorry, so those will of which there

752
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:05,919
Speaker 1: are none on this roster, sorry wolf. So so yes,

753
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:09,480
Speaker 1: that'll be. That'll be in there, and I expect that

754
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 1: stuff to only grow. I mean, I wouldn't be completely

755
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:13,839
Speaker 1: shocked if I if every player ended up. I think

756
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:17,479
Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin already makes his players wear all the time.

757
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:21,640
Speaker 1: So so you had that the guardian caps um. The

758
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:24,960
Speaker 1: NFL owners also tabled the Eagles proposal to create that

759
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:29,200
Speaker 1: fourth and twenty alternative to the onside kick. As Rich

760
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 1: McKay said, quote, there's not an appetite yet to have

761
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 1: the onside kick go away, although they do want to

762
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 1: improve the recovery rate. That's our trivia question here today,

763
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:41,760
Speaker 1: Danny and Darren, what was the recovery rate on onside

764
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 1: kicks in the twenty twenty two season across the NFL,

765
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 1: because it was at an all time low of two four?

766
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 1: Is correct? You cheated? I didn't cheat. I was there yesterday.

767
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 1: I didn't. He was in the press connect, so he

768
00:39:57,160 --> 00:39:59,920
Speaker 1: heard that. He heard the effect and figure, the target

769
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Speaker 1: rate is thirteen to fourteen percent. Thirteen to fourteen percent.

770
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Speaker 1: What are you gonna do? Here's the other numbers. They've

771
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:09,759
Speaker 1: never been thirteen to fourteen percent? Has it now? They said?

772
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Speaker 1: Once upon a time it was. They're trying to get

773
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Speaker 1: it back to that. Okay, no chance the way it's

774
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:16,440
Speaker 1: currently formulated and police, I mean, come on, there's no way. Well,

775
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:18,440
Speaker 1: let's face it. The reason it was thirteen to fourteen

776
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:20,920
Speaker 1: percent was because guys would go down. They're like kamakaze

777
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:23,920
Speaker 1: that would kill each other. Exactly because because Ron Wolfley

778
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 1: was on the just watching the folk Tales episode of

779
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:31,319
Speaker 1: the mccaunda pool, and of course the on side kick

780
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:33,360
Speaker 1: was part of that thing and the whole Damien Anderson

781
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 1: talking about. Fortunately, I was on the hands team that

782
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 1: day and I was not on the you know, go

783
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:41,600
Speaker 1: kill the other guy team. So roughing the passer will

784
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 1: not be reviewable this coming season. No, that was a

785
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:46,920
Speaker 1: long shot from the get go. Here's what I'm not

786
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:52,120
Speaker 1: really believing. The Competition Committee found that only three of

787
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Speaker 1: the eighty roughing fouls that they examined were considered quote questionable. Nope,

788
00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:00,760
Speaker 1: not buying that. Only three of the eighty we're considered

789
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:05,200
Speaker 1: questionable as deemed by the competition Committee. Sorry, I'm not

790
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 1: buying that. Nobody wants to weigh in on that. I

791
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:10,919
Speaker 1: get it, Okay, Owners, he's kind of smiling a little

792
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:15,600
Speaker 1: bit to be here table the third quarterback rule, So

793
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 1: that's not going to happen where they were going to

794
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 1: designate one player on the inactive list or the practice

795
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 1: quality to be eligible to play, although they're going to

796
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 1: vote on that again in Mace. We'll see about that.

797
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 1: They're also going to consider the flex scheduling for Thursday night. Yeah,

798
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:31,440
Speaker 1: I agree, I just now I get a reaction here.

799
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:34,960
Speaker 1: Nobody who likes that idea. I understand that, except for

800
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:39,240
Speaker 1: the owners' al Michaels. Al Michaels likes it. I understand

801
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:41,960
Speaker 1: that this the NFL is a business first and foremost.

802
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:46,600
Speaker 1: I understand that mindset at almost like, at what cost

803
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:49,600
Speaker 1: if you're going to keep talking about player safety and

804
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:51,920
Speaker 1: not only that, but these fans that are buying tickets

805
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:54,040
Speaker 1: and the games are going to get changed, how is

806
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:56,799
Speaker 1: all of that going to be handled I just you're

807
00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:59,120
Speaker 1: you're now playing eighteen games and they didn't get an

808
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:01,279
Speaker 1: extra bye week. When when when that change? And now

809
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:03,719
Speaker 1: you're going to start adding in more Thursday night games

810
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:07,440
Speaker 1: and those can be flex And it's just I'm not

811
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:09,279
Speaker 1: a fan. I'm not a fan of that, and I

812
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:11,080
Speaker 1: think that's the best. I should leave it at that.

813
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:14,440
Speaker 1: I also feel for like the like for our football

814
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:19,600
Speaker 1: operations people, I'm like, all right, so you are renting

815
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:23,920
Speaker 1: a hotel for a gigantic traveling party and all that

816
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:26,080
Speaker 1: comes with it, the meals and the meetings and all

817
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:28,839
Speaker 1: that stuff, and you're supposed to be there on a

818
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:31,719
Speaker 1: Saturday night, and now you have to call and say

819
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:33,960
Speaker 1: in ten days, Yeah, remember how we were coming on

820
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:36,280
Speaker 1: a Saturday night. Now we need to come on a

821
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:39,239
Speaker 1: Wednesday night. Like, how does that work? It should be

822
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:41,279
Speaker 1: if you're playing a Thursday, you should get a bye

823
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:44,400
Speaker 1: week or something else. Of It's just wild to me,

824
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:47,920
Speaker 1: like all these changes, which are in my opinion, seem

825
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:50,799
Speaker 1: like it is putting more of that focus on the

826
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:53,920
Speaker 1: business side of things and less on maybe the player

827
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:56,200
Speaker 1: safety and the fan side of things. So did you

828
00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:59,480
Speaker 1: see Giants owner John Mara? Those were good quotes you

829
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:02,880
Speaker 1: came out said, he's quote adamantly opposed to flex scheduling

830
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:06,800
Speaker 1: on Thursday nights, and it's quote abusive end quote to

831
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:10,160
Speaker 1: fans who might have bought a plane ticket or have

832
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:14,200
Speaker 1: plans many months in advance to attend a certain game,

833
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 1: to fans who maybe even the local fans who can

834
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:20,200
Speaker 1: go on a Sunday but can't go on a school night,

835
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:23,759
Speaker 1: and especially at short notice. Now short notice it would

836
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:25,719
Speaker 1: be like two weeks notice. Apparently a team would get

837
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:28,480
Speaker 1: because remember, coaches start game planning for that Thursday night

838
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 1: game effective Friday Saturday of the previous week. They get

839
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:34,759
Speaker 1: the game plan for the existing game put to bed,

840
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:37,240
Speaker 1: practice is done, and then if you listen to coaches

841
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:38,840
Speaker 1: a lot of times, they start game planning for that

842
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:41,479
Speaker 1: Thursday night opponent before you ever get to kick off

843
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:44,279
Speaker 1: of the previous Sunday game. So you're gonna have to

844
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:47,320
Speaker 1: know in advance for all the reasons we just cited,

845
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:49,759
Speaker 1: but I'm telling you right now, Roger Goodell did not

846
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:53,040
Speaker 1: come off his opinion. And Amazon's paying a lot of money,

847
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:55,440
Speaker 1: and they got a lot of dog matchups last year,

848
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:57,480
Speaker 1: and al Michaels was very vocal about it on the

849
00:43:57,520 --> 00:44:00,239
Speaker 1: air as to how those matchups staw part of it

850
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:01,879
Speaker 1: if you're if you're going to be on Thursday night,

851
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:05,200
Speaker 1: understanding that that how that affects the schedule for everything

852
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:08,120
Speaker 1: else we've talked about. Isn't that part of it understanding? Yeah,

853
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:10,879
Speaker 1: I agree with John Mayer basically said, if we don't

854
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:14,799
Speaker 1: like the matchups, let's put better mashups out right. I mean,

855
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:17,719
Speaker 1: it's not hard put better games in. Well, okay, but

856
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:21,120
Speaker 1: wait a minute, you're you're formulating the Thursday night matchup

857
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:23,680
Speaker 1: based on every team is going to show up on

858
00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:27,279
Speaker 1: Thursday night. So it's not like Sunday night. We're only

859
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:29,680
Speaker 1: the good teams. The marquee teams are going to play

860
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:31,560
Speaker 1: on Sunday night. You have to earn the right to

861
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:33,799
Speaker 1: play on Sunday night into a less degree Monday night.

862
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:37,160
Speaker 1: These days, Thursday Night is everybody takes their turn. It's

863
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:40,280
Speaker 1: a necessary nuisance. If you're going to be able to flex,

864
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:43,440
Speaker 1: then obviously that's not going to be a thing anymore.

865
00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 1: There will be some teams that play twice in a

866
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:47,919
Speaker 1: year on a Thursday Night, and some teams, usually those

867
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:49,799
Speaker 1: teams at the bottom of the standings, who won't play

868
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:52,040
Speaker 1: at all on a Thursday night. Wouldn't it be wild

869
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:54,640
Speaker 1: if if in the future something happens to where like

870
00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:59,160
Speaker 1: the last four weeks of a season, five weeks of

871
00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:02,320
Speaker 1: a season, you only know your opponents and they basically

872
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:04,680
Speaker 1: flex those last couple weeks. If your season ticket member,

873
00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:07,839
Speaker 1: you basically just say, hey, save save my seats for

874
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:10,120
Speaker 1: these two home games. And maybe that's how they get by.

875
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:13,080
Speaker 1: Is that those that's the time where you do all

876
00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 1: your flexing. Actually that's pretty progressive what you're thinking, because

877
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:19,840
Speaker 1: how many fans already sell X number of games in

878
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:22,920
Speaker 1: their season ticket package. So maybe it's just guaranteeing you

879
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:25,920
Speaker 1: have tickets to two home games. Maybe that's now two Thursdays.

880
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:27,920
Speaker 1: Maybe that's a Thursday, you know, and you just have

881
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:30,719
Speaker 1: to if you're going to be flying out or you know,

882
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:33,080
Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe the new norm is you know what,

883
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:36,480
Speaker 1: you get your season tickets, and you're just the reality

884
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:38,560
Speaker 1: is the last month or two of the season, be

885
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:43,600
Speaker 1: prepared to sell if you can make it right. Well, ultimately,

886
00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:46,880
Speaker 1: I understand the amount of money being paid to Amazon,

887
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 1: and I understand where that's going. But it'll hurt I

888
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:54,480
Speaker 1: think it will hurt you with the home fans or

889
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 1: the road fans or whatever it's going to be. But again,

890
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 1: the people that ultimate are affected by this the most

891
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:07,239
Speaker 1: are the same people the owners who want to make

892
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:09,320
Speaker 1: sure Amazon is happy are the ones that would be

893
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:14,400
Speaker 1: hurt on the bottom line. Now there's collateral damage players

894
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:16,719
Speaker 1: having to work on a short week, like I can't

895
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:20,719
Speaker 1: imagine because the what I had heard was it was

896
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:22,799
Speaker 1: basically going to be like a ten day out thing,

897
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:25,840
Speaker 1: like right before the Sunday, before the week that it

898
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:30,120
Speaker 1: would be flexed. So you're talking about a team finds

899
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:32,000
Speaker 1: out the end of one week they're about to play

900
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:37,760
Speaker 1: on a Sunday game that two weeks later or whatever

901
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:40,319
Speaker 1: it is. Instead of playing on another Sunday game, you're

902
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:43,000
Speaker 1: going to be playing on a Thursday. Now is that

903
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:45,160
Speaker 1: enough time to like get your head around it? I

904
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:50,480
Speaker 1: don't know. And also and also injuries, the you know

905
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:53,040
Speaker 1: that decision comes made of sometimes if you're on a

906
00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:56,160
Speaker 1: short week and a players could play, but do you

907
00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:58,319
Speaker 1: want to play them? That comes into consideration when you're

908
00:46:58,320 --> 00:47:00,680
Speaker 1: on a short week and it's wait till you have

909
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:03,960
Speaker 1: Thursday night load management. That's what I was thinking was

910
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:05,920
Speaker 1: that's what this feels like it's becoming as fans who

911
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:08,000
Speaker 1: get tickets and they travel to NBA games and it's

912
00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:10,759
Speaker 1: load management for the players you are paying to go.

913
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:13,879
Speaker 1: Why you need to be real careful because there's going

914
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:17,439
Speaker 1: to be a player or players at some point they're like, yeah,

915
00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:20,839
Speaker 1: I can't turn around like that wasn't there Isn't there

916
00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 1: an NBA coming up real soon, NBA game coming up

917
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:27,799
Speaker 1: real soon, Sixers and Nuggets, And neither Joel Embiid nor

918
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:31,480
Speaker 1: Nicola Yokich are playing both load management, and those are

919
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:34,520
Speaker 1: the two leading candidates for NBA MVP. So what would

920
00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:37,640
Speaker 1: be a marquee matchup? Both guys are sitting out that game?

921
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:40,279
Speaker 1: What are we doing? And I heard someone go off,

922
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:41,839
Speaker 1: I think it was Jay Williams saying, you know what,

923
00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:45,239
Speaker 1: look at the schedule and sit out the Hornets game

924
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:47,839
Speaker 1: or the Rockets game or the Spurs game. But when

925
00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:51,080
Speaker 1: you have these marquee matchups that are on ESPN Thursday

926
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:55,640
Speaker 1: Night with Dave Pash courtside, right, and you have to

927
00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:58,319
Speaker 1: make those games, there's got to be an adjustment. That's

928
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:01,160
Speaker 1: my rant about the NBA that front. As for the

929
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:03,399
Speaker 1: NFC West, let's look over the block wall real quick

930
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:06,080
Speaker 1: because if you didn't hear it, GM John Lynch at

931
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 1: the Owner and Meetings said that Brock Purdy is the

932
00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:12,560
Speaker 1: leader in the clubhouse quote unquote, if healthy to be

933
00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:15,879
Speaker 1: the Niners starting quarterback over Trey Lance. They gave up

934
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 1: three first round picks for to draft number three overall.

935
00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:21,759
Speaker 1: Brock Purdy is the leader in the clubhouse. Seahawks made

936
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:24,200
Speaker 1: it official. They think Bobby Wagner to a one year

937
00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:27,600
Speaker 1: deal worth up to seven million. So Bobby Wagner back

938
00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:30,680
Speaker 1: with coach double rainbow in Seattle. You have that, and

939
00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:32,920
Speaker 1: then here's a whole he can only stat on the Rams.

940
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:36,400
Speaker 1: You realize that the Rams top six defenders last season

941
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:40,319
Speaker 1: by snap count will not return. Think about that because

942
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:44,879
Speaker 1: Aaron Donald was injured so much, and I mean they

943
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:47,719
Speaker 1: you know, I've been talking about how the Cardinals and

944
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:50,520
Speaker 1: what's been going on this offseason, starting with the coaching

945
00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:52,960
Speaker 1: staff and then going with the roster has been one

946
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:55,760
Speaker 1: of the purge movies. I think there's five purge movies.

947
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:59,359
Speaker 1: I've labeled the Cardinals offseason that six purge movie. It's

948
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:02,279
Speaker 1: nothing compared to the Rams. Can I Can I just

949
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:04,480
Speaker 1: say that I'm oppressed that Paul knows how many Purge

950
00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:06,440
Speaker 1: movies there are. I didn't know that. I didn't know that.

951
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:08,160
Speaker 1: I got a teenage punk at home who likes the

952
00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:11,040
Speaker 1: Purge movie. So i'd been worried about that. Yeah, that

953
00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:14,799
Speaker 1: was You're right. Thankfully's grown out of it, thankfully like

954
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:16,680
Speaker 1: a lot of like a lot of things. So and

955
00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 1: then I love the I love the letter from Kevin

956
00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:22,479
Speaker 1: dem Off, their CEO, the team president to Rams season

957
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:26,880
Speaker 1: ticket holders where he said that the Rams expect to

958
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:29,920
Speaker 1: contend for the NFC West title and quote make a

959
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:34,000
Speaker 1: run towards the Super Bowl this year. Yes, that's in

960
00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:36,040
Speaker 1: the same letter where he said we've taken all of

961
00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:39,160
Speaker 1: our salary cap pain in two thousand twenty three and

962
00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:41,680
Speaker 1: project at more than sixty million in cap space in

963
00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:44,359
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four. So I'm not sure you can have

964
00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:47,400
Speaker 1: that cake and eat it too. But it's both phrases

965
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:49,840
Speaker 1: are in the letter to season ticket holders for the Rams.

966
00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:54,320
Speaker 1: I mean, if the point is to win a super

967
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:58,040
Speaker 1: Bowl and this is the cost you pay, I think

968
00:49:58,040 --> 00:49:59,480
Speaker 1: a lot of people would say it's worth it. Because

969
00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:02,799
Speaker 1: he saw that rang and look, you know, maybe you're

970
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:04,920
Speaker 1: well served to take all that salary cap pain in

971
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:07,759
Speaker 1: two thousand and twenty three, if we were to say,

972
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:10,960
Speaker 1: if we were to go ahead and juxtapose that on

973
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:13,680
Speaker 1: the Cardinals, what if you were to say, you know what,

974
00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:17,120
Speaker 1: your franchise quarterback is coming back from a torn acl

975
00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:21,560
Speaker 1: It's an unknown. All indications are he's tracking ahead of schedule,

976
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:25,759
Speaker 1: it's going very well. It's still ultimately an unknown. You're

977
00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:28,080
Speaker 1: going to take your pain in two thousand and twenty three,

978
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:32,080
Speaker 1: whether it's d hop in a trade, and you know,

979
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:34,440
Speaker 1: any d hop trade still leaves you a twenty one

980
00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:37,120
Speaker 1: twenty two million dollars in dead cap money, right, Yeah,

981
00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:39,719
Speaker 1: but you could take that all this year exactly and

982
00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:43,080
Speaker 1: then it's wiped out. That's my point. Yes, and so yes,

983
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:45,920
Speaker 1: I just wonder if guess what, there are two teams

984
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:49,520
Speaker 1: in the division who might have that approach to two

985
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:53,399
Speaker 1: twenty three. Could I could see it? I mean, it

986
00:50:53,440 --> 00:51:00,200
Speaker 1: makes sense. It's hard, but it makes sense. Anything else,

987
00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:02,480
Speaker 1: anything else anybody wants to rant and rave about. I mean,

988
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:04,480
Speaker 1: I could go off about how I heard another stat

989
00:51:04,560 --> 00:51:07,719
Speaker 1: that Arizona has the third highest gas price in America. Yeah,

990
00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:09,759
Speaker 1: what did gas gets so expensive? Why do we have

991
00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:14,040
Speaker 1: the third highest gas price in America behind California and Hawaii. Darren,

992
00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:16,399
Speaker 1: you're an Arizona native, are you not? I'm not You're

993
00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:25,000
Speaker 1: not okay? Long time? Please explain? Are you from originally? Yeah, Michigan. Oh,

994
00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:27,479
Speaker 1: I live in Alaska too. I feel like I don't

995
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:30,160
Speaker 1: even know you anymore. After you had me pick you

996
00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:32,360
Speaker 1: up from the car jail ship, I realize you didn't

997
00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:35,400
Speaker 1: drive the car. I thought you drove anymore. You know,

998
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:38,320
Speaker 1: if you I didn't realize you guys were that close

999
00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:41,040
Speaker 1: of acquaintances. Now, I mean, it's good. I guess who

1000
00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:42,960
Speaker 1: Darren's first call was last week. We needed to be

1001
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:45,719
Speaker 1: picked up and taking a work That was me. No,

1002
00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:48,279
Speaker 1: that's interesting because there's a Seinfeld episode that, you know,

1003
00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:52,080
Speaker 1: taking someone to the airport sort of. That's a love

1004
00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:54,879
Speaker 1: language too, is like a threshold of being really good

1005
00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:57,560
Speaker 1: friends or not. If you feel comfortable asking someone to

1006
00:51:57,600 --> 00:51:59,600
Speaker 1: take you to the airport. Now this one asking someone

1007
00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:02,120
Speaker 1: to pick you up from the mechanic, I don't know,

1008
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:08,840
Speaker 1: that's close. One of the reasons. It's close to both things.

1009
00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:12,520
Speaker 1: And I had a feeling when I had reached out

1010
00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:14,319
Speaker 1: to her that she was still at home, so she

1011
00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:16,160
Speaker 1: will say, I don't know how you drove that we

1012
00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:17,640
Speaker 1: had the same card. I don't know how you drove it,

1013
00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:22,560
Speaker 1: because you looked very squished, uncomfortable my passenger seat because

1014
00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:27,280
Speaker 1: I drive a sedan. I don't know how to answer that. Okay,

1015
00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:29,439
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. What were we talking about the subject? Because

1016
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:32,080
Speaker 1: we're gonna get to the I in Rappa. I don't

1017
00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:34,520
Speaker 1: want to talk about that gas prices. Oh yeah, I don't.

1018
00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:36,960
Speaker 1: I don't know why it's so expensive. It's very disappointing,

1019
00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:40,759
Speaker 1: and we'll just move on there. Any other takeaways from

1020
00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:44,320
Speaker 1: the owner's meetings and or the party that we missed, Darren?

1021
00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:47,920
Speaker 1: Any other tales from the front, No, we know that.

1022
00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:50,680
Speaker 1: I really don't have any. I said hello to Mike Disner.

1023
00:52:51,120 --> 00:52:53,319
Speaker 1: I saw Mike Disner there. Really is still working for

1024
00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:55,880
Speaker 1: the Lions. He's the VP with the Lions. He's like

1025
00:52:56,040 --> 00:52:58,320
Speaker 1: Kai hi high up. Oh I thought he was a

1026
00:52:58,400 --> 00:53:01,480
Speaker 1: cap guy. No no, no, no, no, no, no, wow. Okays,

1027
00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:04,640
Speaker 1: he's a big wig with the lines. So there's Chris

1028
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:08,480
Speaker 1: Spielman and then there's Disner. I'm not one hundred percent

1029
00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:10,239
Speaker 1: sure that would be the order, but that's just me,

1030
00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:15,320
Speaker 1: all right, Okay, Well, former Cardinals cap guy Mike disneer byway,

1031
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:18,200
Speaker 1: all right, well, I'm looking here at anything else that

1032
00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:21,240
Speaker 1: maybe we forgot to, uh you know, cover in this edition.

1033
00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:24,040
Speaker 1: Opening Day is coming up, and I've decided I'm gonna

1034
00:53:24,040 --> 00:53:25,560
Speaker 1: try and be a baseball fan. Now, am I going

1035
00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:29,400
Speaker 1: to follow the Rangers or the Diamondbacks to great options?

1036
00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:31,920
Speaker 1: From what I know about baseball, I'm gonna go see

1037
00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:35,680
Speaker 1: the Savannah Bananas Friday night? Are you yes? Where is

1038
00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:39,440
Speaker 1: that taking place? They're at Scottsdale Stadium Friday night. That'll

1039
00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:41,160
Speaker 1: be a good time. That will be good. That'll be

1040
00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:43,320
Speaker 1: a good time. Nice stadio. You should make a TikTok

1041
00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:46,879
Speaker 1: while you're there. Sure, I don't know how to do that.

1042
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:50,160
Speaker 1: But by the way, Danny, to answer your question, if

1043
00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:52,719
Speaker 1: you don't become a Diamondbacks fan, then we're going to

1044
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:55,080
Speaker 1: have issues on Cardinals underground. I went to a diamond

1045
00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:56,719
Speaker 1: Backs game last year and I had a lot of fun.

1046
00:53:56,800 --> 00:53:59,200
Speaker 1: I might try and go for Opening Day or not

1047
00:53:59,239 --> 00:54:03,240
Speaker 1: Open Day, but I guess their first homestand home opener,

1048
00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:05,799
Speaker 1: home opener, that's what I'm looking for. Yeah, all right,

1049
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:08,239
Speaker 1: there you go. You lived in Missouri, so there's also

1050
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:14,680
Speaker 1: another team. I did the Cardinals game when I was

1051
00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:17,600
Speaker 1: in college once Saint Louis. You go to Cardinals games

1052
00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:21,040
Speaker 1: all the time. Good one, Darren. Thanks. You know did

1053
00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:24,200
Speaker 1: you know that Kay Adams of formerly of NFL Network

1054
00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:27,680
Speaker 1: and now of up In Adams. She was the former

1055
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:30,880
Speaker 1: in stadium host for the Saint Louis Cardinals. All right,

1056
00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:35,680
Speaker 1: we gotta get we don't need all this Cardinals Missouri, missouris.

1057
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:39,320
Speaker 1: I do have something to add on the zero jersey. If,

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Speaker 1: as you guys kind of hinted at earlier, if Will

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Speaker 1: Anderson was a candidate for zero, he would have to

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Speaker 1: be listed as a linebacker and not a defensive end.

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Speaker 1: That's true because defensive ends cannot wear zero. It's only linebacker,

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Speaker 1: linebackers and some other positions. But you know, so you

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Speaker 1: have franchise numbers determined by position, and apparently the ability

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Speaker 1: where number zero. But the most famous number zero. I

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Speaker 1: was telling some people yesterday about this um or on

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Speaker 1: Tuesday was Pat Patriots. I'm a big mascot fan all

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Speaker 1: or all around the league. Pat Patriot was the mascot

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Speaker 1: or is the mascot of the New England Patriots, and

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Speaker 1: he used to wear number zero up until two thousand

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Speaker 1: and two. In NFL Films was following Robert Kraft one time.

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Speaker 1: There's a second mention of Robert Kraft in this podcast,

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Speaker 1: go figure. But they were following Robert Kraft before a

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Speaker 1: game and a fan came up and Robert Kraft was

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Speaker 1: miked up. Fan came up said hey, we got to

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Speaker 1: do something about that mascot's number. And he's like, what

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Speaker 1: number is he wearing? He wears zero, and Robert Kraft goes, yeah,

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Speaker 1: we'll get on that very next week. He was wearing

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Speaker 1: number one because I guess and some some people have

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Speaker 1: negative connotations to the number zero, like, oh, that that

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Speaker 1: guy's a zero. You know, it's a mascot, right Sattle.

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Speaker 1: Seattle's mascot wears zero. I've found on Twitter. Yes, splitz

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Speaker 1: Blitz that's the Yeah, yeah, that's that's their mascot. Okay,

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Speaker 1: well okay, right, well look fun one. Yeah. You know, Olms,

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Speaker 1: you should make that an episode of the Pash Pod,

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Speaker 1: because you know, the two of you pass is into

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Speaker 1: ripping all the team's mascots when we grow around the

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Speaker 1: NFL the last twenty years, Sour Dough Sam almost stormed

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Speaker 1: the booth one year, Sour Dough Sam. They think he's soft.

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Speaker 1: I mean they bag on sour Dough Sam. I'm one

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Speaker 1: of these years, I'm gonna tell sour Dough Sam down

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Speaker 1: to the sideline and he's gonna give those guys a

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Speaker 1: what four too much sour dough. I'm hungry and I

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Speaker 1: don't want to be talking about this. Anything that'll do

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