1 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:17,160 Speaker 1: He's say your legs. 2 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:33,920 Speaker 2: The girls prizing there, we will sit in Jo's the Gunner. 3 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:36,879 Speaker 2: Welcome to. 4 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:44,880 Speaker 1: Wednesday, May third on the Just Baseball Show, and it 5 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 1: is the mail Bag. We answer all of your questions 6 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:53,239 Speaker 1: that you left for us on our Instagram at Just 7 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 1: Baseball Show and on our Twitter at just b B Media. 8 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 1: We post the graphic. Butfore the day starts, we let 9 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 1: all the questions roll in and we pick our seven favorites. 10 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:09,680 Speaker 1: I'm Peter Apple, that's arm Layton and one of the 11 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 1: questions I had to add on them because it's just 12 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:15,479 Speaker 1: about you and it's about a monologue. 13 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:18,319 Speaker 2: I'm very excited to get care it's more of a request. 14 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 2: I don't even think it's a question. It's a request, 15 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 2: which I saw that one. I was like, oh man, 16 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 2: I don't know if we're there yet, but I'm I'm 17 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 2: happy to indulge a little bit and get into that. 18 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 2: But yeah, some great questions. As always, always look forward 19 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 2: to this because it gives us a really good opportunity 20 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 2: to just kind of see what everybody else wants to 21 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:39,320 Speaker 2: talk about. And shockingly, a bunch of questions about the 22 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:41,760 Speaker 2: Orioles and Cardinals and pitching and it's like, we're just 23 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 2: gonna do this every two fucking weeks. But you know, 24 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 2: it is something that clearly a lot of people are 25 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 2: wondering about. And I think it's interesting because there's we're 26 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 2: almost getting to the point where, like in a month 27 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 2: from now, you'll start to have a little bit of 28 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 2: a pulse of like, who's gonna be buyers, who's going 29 00:01:57,880 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 2: to be sellers, whatever it is, And right now, it's 30 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 2: just still so early that people want to know. So 31 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 2: that's the funny recurring question. 32 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 1: It is early, but at the same time, we are 33 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:11,920 Speaker 1: five weeks into the MLB season, like we're thirty games 34 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 1: in of one hundred and sixty two game season. It 35 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 1: seems like it's so early because it relatively is when 36 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 1: you look at the calendar and it feels like we 37 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 1: just started the season. But when you look at the 38 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 1: schedule and you think, okay, the trade deadline is in 39 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:29,520 Speaker 1: a couple of months, maybe it's time to start talking 40 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 1: about some teams that are in the bottom that could potentially, 41 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 1: you know, deal some of their superstars. And we have 42 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:38,960 Speaker 1: plenty of those questions. I'm excited to get into it. 43 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 1: So let's just get into it. The first question of 44 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 1: the mailbag, what currently struggling team are you buying stock 45 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 1: into to bounce back? Ask by Andrew Glave on Instagram. 46 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:56,080 Speaker 1: This is an interesting one because there are a lot 47 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:59,080 Speaker 1: of teams that are kind of not doing too hot. 48 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 1: Most notable, believe the New York Yankees. How about the 49 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 1: Cleveland Guardians are under five hundred, Houston Ashos are still 50 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:08,919 Speaker 1: sixteen and thirteen. You know, the Angels fifteen and fourteen. 51 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 1: The Seattle Mariners are twelve and sixteen. The Mets are 52 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 1: hovering around five hundred, The Phillies are at five hundred. 53 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:19,240 Speaker 1: You know, even teams like the Cardinals twelve and seventeen, 54 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 1: the San Diego Padres sixteen and fourteen. The Dodgers are 55 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 1: in first place, but they're seventeen and thirteen. So there's 56 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 1: a lot of really good answers here when you look 57 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 1: at the current standings and think to yourself, none of 58 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 1: the good teams are actually playing all that well except 59 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 1: for the Rays. 60 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, so I would say, like for this exercise here, 61 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 2: because you highlight it like with only thirty ish games, 62 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 2: like teams that are three games over five hundred. Yeah, 63 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 2: it's a little bit of a slow start, but at 64 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 2: the same time, like they could win, they could rattle 65 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 2: off a sweep and then all of a sudden, they're 66 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 2: nineteen and thirteen and like, all right, they're in the 67 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 2: driver's seats. So I think that for this exercise, I 68 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 2: would probably just focus on teams that are below five 69 00:03:57,440 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 2: hundred that we were expecting to be good, which off 70 00:03:59,880 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 2: the top of my head, like I'm just looking at 71 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 2: the standings even like Mariners, Cardinals. I think those are 72 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 2: the two teams that have most wildly disappointed quote unquote 73 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 2: this early. The Yankees too, because the Yankees, like you 74 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 2: saw the start that they got off to last year, 75 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 2: you figured that might be the case. Maybe it's a 76 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:21,839 Speaker 2: good thing that they've started slow. I'm looking across like 77 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:24,599 Speaker 2: I'm I really think that the Cardinals, the Yankees, and 78 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:26,479 Speaker 2: the Mariners are gonna get it going. And I know 79 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 2: that it looks really ugly for the Yankees right now, 80 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 2: and it doesn't look like it's gonna get that much 81 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:33,279 Speaker 2: better with Judge a little banged up. But I think 82 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 2: the Yankees are gonna be just fine. I think the 83 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 2: Cardinals are gonna find a way to turn this thing around. 84 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:40,719 Speaker 2: But I'm a little bit less optimistic about them. I 85 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:43,799 Speaker 2: think I feel better about the Yankees and the Mariners, 86 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:46,600 Speaker 2: but I'll highlight the Yankees just because, not only because 87 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:50,279 Speaker 2: they have the best record of those aforementioned three. Their 88 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:53,279 Speaker 2: lineup that they're rolling out right now is a joke, 89 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:55,359 Speaker 2: and we've talked about that. We don't need to like 90 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 2: go too deep into that, even Jack and I talked 91 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:00,159 Speaker 2: about it without you the other episode, because it's been that. 92 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:04,360 Speaker 2: But they've got reinforcements coming. Even if Rodn is out 93 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 2: for a while, Like, I still like what they've got 94 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:09,480 Speaker 2: in terms of being able to go get somebody, you know, 95 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 2: hopefully you get Severarino back relatively soon. I think he 96 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:14,679 Speaker 2: might beat Rodan back at this point, which is crazy. 97 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 2: There's a lot of questions there, but there's a lot 98 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:19,480 Speaker 2: of different guys that can come back and help them. 99 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:21,599 Speaker 2: And I still feel like they're going to find a 100 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 2: way to piece together that lineup. And Bader comes back, 101 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 2: and there's more reinforcements, Like there's improvements in sight for 102 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:28,599 Speaker 2: other teams. It's like they got to change the way 103 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:31,040 Speaker 2: they're playing, and that's a little bit scarier. 104 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 1: You make some sense as a person who watches the 105 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:40,559 Speaker 1: Yankees day in and day out. I don't necessarily share 106 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:44,160 Speaker 1: your opinions being optimistic, at least about the New York Yankees, 107 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 1: but of course that is my fandom, and I could 108 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 1: be much more optimistic about teams that I don't have 109 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 1: a rooting interest for, and that team is the Seattle Mariners. 110 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 1: And while I do technically have a rooting interest for them, 111 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 1: because I bet on their over win total, I bet 112 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 1: on them to win the World Series this season, among 113 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:02,360 Speaker 1: other bets, of course, and I have the Braves. 114 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 2: But we don't have to go into all that. 115 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 1: What I do want to go into is the fact 116 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:10,160 Speaker 1: that the start for the Mariners does not make any 117 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:14,159 Speaker 1: sense to me because lu Rodriguez has not gotten going 118 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 1: truly yet. Ty Franz has looked like a shell of himself. 119 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 1: A U Hennio Suarez has not looked that great either. 120 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 1: Taioscar Hernandez has not gotten going at all. Colton Wong 121 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 1: at second base a no show. JP Crawford great defensively, 122 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 1: has not shown up at the plate. There are a 123 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:36,839 Speaker 1: lot of guys in this Mariners lineup that are all 124 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:41,160 Speaker 1: hitting poorly, and I just cannot expect that to continue. 125 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 1: It doesn't make any sense to me. And then when 126 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:46,480 Speaker 1: you look at the rotation, the rotation has been totally fine. 127 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:51,040 Speaker 1: Luis Castillo has been great, Logan Gilbert's been great, George 128 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 1: Kirby has been great, even Marco Gonzalez is giving them 129 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:57,680 Speaker 1: quality innings. And the bullpen has been good. 130 00:06:57,720 --> 00:06:58,719 Speaker 2: Not elite. 131 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:02,800 Speaker 1: So I look at a Mariners team and it's not 132 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:06,920 Speaker 1: that you know they have so many reinforcements coming. It's 133 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 1: just a simple fact of there's no way they can 134 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 1: continue to play this poorly. And the Cardinals are in 135 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 1: that breath. But I have more concerns about the Cardinals' 136 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 1: overall starting pitching, their bullpen. I think the lineup is 137 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 1: going to continue to bang, But I don't have those 138 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 1: concerns with the Mariners. They're just playing like shit, this 139 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 1: is just a crap month for them. The Yankees they're 140 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 1: rolling out Willie Calhoun. Yeah, the Mariners are rolling out 141 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 1: guys like that, like Willy Calhoun a hidden fifth in 142 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 1: the Mariner's lineup. Aaron Hicks ain't hitting seventh in the 143 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 1: Mariners lineup. Frenchi Cordericor's got defate as well. Like these 144 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 1: guys are actual bad baseball players. The Mariners don't have 145 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 1: these bad baseball players. They're just playing right now like 146 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 1: bad baseball players. So I am buying so much stock 147 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 1: in the Mariners. I think they are going to be totally, 148 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 1: totally fine. Ernos and Yankees I have bit more concerns about. 149 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 1: I definitely agree. 150 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 2: I mean, we talked about it a little while ago, 151 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 2: like we went through every single I think it was 152 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 2: on the Friday episode. We went through like every single 153 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 2: player on the Mariners lineup, and I'm like, that guy's 154 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 2: gonna hit better, that guy's gonna hit better, like all 155 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 2: of them are going to naturally get better. I think 156 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 2: that's one hundred percent true. But I look at this 157 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 2: Yankees team and it's like the fact that they're fifteen 158 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 2: and fifteen despite all of this is pretty nuts. They 159 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 2: got a great start from Domngo Herman. Garrett Cole looks 160 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 2: like arguably the best pitcher in baseball so far this season. 161 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 2: But yeah, I think a lot of it is kind 162 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 2: of up in the air because I can't pretend to 163 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:37,319 Speaker 2: know when Carlos Roddan's going to come back. I mean, 164 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:40,440 Speaker 2: I can't imagine the frustration there. I can't pretend to 165 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:42,200 Speaker 2: know when Luis Savarino's gonna come back. And if he 166 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:43,840 Speaker 2: does come back, how is he going to look? Is 167 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:46,720 Speaker 2: he going to get hurt again? That the reason why 168 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 2: I'm not necessarily worried about the Yankees is that they 169 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 2: didn't make any insane, insane splashes trade wise, like they've 170 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 2: kind of kept their assets, and I think that if 171 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:58,079 Speaker 2: things look rough in a month or so, like they 172 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 2: will find a way, like Cashman will upgrade this lineup, 173 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 2: and I think it will actually upgrade a little bit 174 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 2: on its own. Volpi continues to look better and better. 175 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:07,679 Speaker 2: I think Rizzo is is a guy that you know 176 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 2: is gonna hit. Judge will be back soon enough, and 177 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 2: DJ will make you like, I think that's somebody that's 178 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:15,560 Speaker 2: gonna make a big difference. But I think there's water Cabrew, 179 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:17,079 Speaker 2: like you said, like bad baseball players. I think this 180 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:21,080 Speaker 2: is Waldo is like separate from the Franchis Corderos and yeah, 181 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 2: the Willie Calhouns, but he's been a disaster, Like he 182 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:26,199 Speaker 2: can't be that bad the rest of the year. But 183 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:27,839 Speaker 2: I do agree, like I think if I'm if I'm 184 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:31,559 Speaker 2: lining them up in terms of level of concern and 185 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 2: like bounce back ability, I'm going Mariners, Yankees, and then 186 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 2: the Cardinals. And honestly, I'm not even that that that 187 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:42,440 Speaker 2: out on the Cardinals yet, Like, no one not either 188 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:45,679 Speaker 2: has like a six hundred ops, like that's gonna get better. 189 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 2: But I would say it's like Yankees, Mariners, one A, 190 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:52,320 Speaker 2: one B, and then and then the Cardinals. I definitely am. 191 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 2: They're in a different boat for me. I'm more concerned 192 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:56,720 Speaker 2: about the Cardinals for the same reasons you are, Like, 193 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:59,959 Speaker 2: we can paint the picture of a balanced team, Fiaret 194 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:03,080 Speaker 2: with the Mariners especially, the Yankees have a path to 195 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 2: being a balanced team and have the bullpen. The Cardinals 196 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 2: have some gaping holes, which we've talked about. So even 197 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 2: if the lineup is banging, which it isn't right now, 198 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:12,840 Speaker 2: we see what happens when they're not banging. There's so 199 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 2: much pressure on those bats to hit, and if they 200 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:18,200 Speaker 2: don't really really hit, they kind of stink. And that's 201 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:21,200 Speaker 2: what they've got either really really hit or answer all 202 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 2: of the questions that we've been regurgitating about, you know, 203 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:25,960 Speaker 2: this Cardinals team. But I'm with you on the Mariners. 204 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:28,320 Speaker 2: I'm not worried about them even in the slightest and 205 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:30,560 Speaker 2: they just caught up Bryce Miller, who I think should 206 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 2: be able to help them at least in some capacity, 207 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 2: whether it's as a swingman, spot start or whatever. They've 208 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 2: got more options. 209 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 1: The Cardinals are ten and nineteen. Yeah, ten and nineteen. 210 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 1: Let's move on. Another team that is sixteen and thirteen, 211 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 1: tied with the New York Mets in the National League East. 212 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 1: Is your Miami Marlins. 213 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. 214 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:59,679 Speaker 1: So the question is can Arum put together a monologue 215 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 1: for a team that doesn't actually suck? And he means 216 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 1: your Miami Marlins. Of course, I just got signed out 217 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:10,679 Speaker 1: of my Google Docs document where all the questions are, 218 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 1: so let me credit the person who answered. 219 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:22,119 Speaker 2: William W. Lynch on ig perfect. So, William, I appreciate 220 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 2: that we're not in monologue territory yet. I'm just I'm 221 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 2: not amped up enough yet. I like what I see. 222 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 2: I think it's really awesome. I think the Marlins are 223 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 2: off to a great start, all things considered. Talk to 224 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 2: me after this, after this Brave series, because this is 225 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 2: one that I think will be very definitive. If they 226 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:41,319 Speaker 2: get knocked around at home by the Braves again and 227 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 2: the language is very possible, then all of a sudden 228 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 2: they're back to five hundred, and it's like, all right, 229 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 2: like this is what we kind of expect. This team 230 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:50,720 Speaker 2: looks really good all things considered. You send a text like, 231 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 2: and this is relatively speaking, You sent a text the 232 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 2: other day like this Marlins team, Like I'm starting to 233 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:58,040 Speaker 2: believe and I'm like, please don't, but like I can 234 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 2: see why, Like you know, this is a much better 235 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 2: ball club. You take a team that's pitching centric and 236 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 2: you add literally the best hitter through month one since 237 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 2: Barry Bonds in two thousand and four, and Louis orr 238 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 2: is like that helps. Jean Segurl, we talked about guys 239 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:13,680 Speaker 2: who can't be worst. Gene Sigurral might be the worst 240 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:15,560 Speaker 2: player in baseball right now? Do you think and I 241 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:17,079 Speaker 2: want to ask you this on the podcast. 242 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:20,480 Speaker 1: I keep thinking about this because it's like there are 243 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 1: telling things in Major League Baseball. Number One, at the 244 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:27,439 Speaker 1: beginning of the season on bet MGM, the Cardinals were 245 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 1: minus one p fifteen to win the National League Central 246 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:32,560 Speaker 1: and I screamed from the mountaintops, that is the biggest 247 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 1: trap of all time. Another telling thing, Jean Sigirl only 248 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:40,679 Speaker 1: got a two year, seventeen million dollar contract from the 249 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 1: Marlins after going to the World Series and being a 250 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:48,560 Speaker 1: solid contributor that at the time told me teams don't 251 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 1: believe in the bat anymore, that it just might be 252 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 1: over for him, and the Marlins got this great deal 253 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:57,600 Speaker 1: on a World Series second basement, and I'm like, did 254 00:12:57,640 --> 00:13:00,960 Speaker 1: they did they really? And he's been awful. 255 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 2: He's been awful. He's playing third, which is like bizarre 256 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:06,559 Speaker 2: in its own sense too. He's barely really played there. 257 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 2: They could have just kept Brian Anderson for less, like 258 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:11,560 Speaker 2: it's it's a weird, weird move. And that said, like 259 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 2: he's been bad, I like to give William what he 260 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:17,440 Speaker 2: wants here. I am getting a little cautiously optimistic about 261 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:20,720 Speaker 2: this Marlins team because the Kim Ang is actually cooking. 262 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 2: Like you got to give kim her like flowers here 263 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 2: two of the big and I tweeted this like two 264 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 2: of her eleventh hour moves before this season, I think 265 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:33,120 Speaker 2: are the reason why they're off to the sixteen and 266 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:37,200 Speaker 2: thirteenth start. Luisa Rai is where she pushes the chips forward. 267 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 2: We talked about how it's a quote unquote overpay, but 268 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:43,320 Speaker 2: she over you overpay when you have to Sometimes if 269 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 2: you think it's gonna make a difference, and look what 270 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:47,200 Speaker 2: it's done, right, I don't think anyone gives a crap 271 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 2: about the prospects included when Ariaz is literally the reason 272 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 2: why you're over five hundred and has been one of 273 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 2: the best hitters in baseball. And then how about the 274 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:57,600 Speaker 2: JJ Blede for AJ Puck deal? Like unbelievable that that 275 00:13:57,679 --> 00:14:01,560 Speaker 2: takes some guts because you're trading, You're you're basically admitting, hey, 276 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 2: we and it wasn't her, but still organizationally, you're admitting, hey, 277 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:07,800 Speaker 2: we totally fucked up on this pick, our can't miss 278 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:09,959 Speaker 2: first round pick that we've been marketing the hell out 279 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:12,439 Speaker 2: of over the last couple of years. We're gonna swap 280 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 2: him for a reliever who's often injured. But they looked 281 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:17,559 Speaker 2: at it in a vacuum and said, this makes us better. A. J. 282 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 2: Puck's been one of the best relievers in baseball this year, 283 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:23,320 Speaker 2: five saves already, he's their closer twelve innings, one point 284 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 2: seventy five ERA. He looks fantastic. Those two guys alone 285 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 2: have played a huge part in their success. So you know, 286 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:33,480 Speaker 2: we we've talked about Kim and kind of like this 287 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 2: being her definitive year to prove that she can, you know, 288 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 2: be at the helm for the foreseeable future and help 289 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 2: this Marlins team, you know, build success here. You've got 290 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:44,480 Speaker 2: to give her credit, like those two moves were huge 291 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 2: and a big reason why they've been successful. And then 292 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 2: I think they got to start playing Yuli Gurriel. Julie 293 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 2: Guriel has been great. He's hitting three zero six, three 294 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 2: fifty eight nine. He's thirty nine years old, but we 295 00:14:55,800 --> 00:14:57,680 Speaker 2: know what he's been his whole career. Last year was 296 00:14:57,760 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 2: a bad one, but then he finished strong in the postseason. 297 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 2: I don't I wonder how far away they are from 298 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 2: from you know, eating into jeans of girls at bats 299 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 2: with with Yuli Gurriel. I've I've heard they're already starting 300 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 2: to playing in the outfield a little bit. Like there's 301 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 2: some good moves that Kim has made and you got 302 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 2: to give her credit. 303 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 1: No, you're putting Yuli in the outfield, they might. 304 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:18,960 Speaker 2: Do that. 305 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 1: Imagine an outfield defensive Jazz and Julie out there. 306 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't care. I'm here. I'm here for it. Man. 307 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 2: If you can hit, I'm in. That's what they need. Uh. 308 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 2: But I think the best answer is to get Joli 309 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 2: some reps at third split, some time in the DH, 310 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 2: disguise him in right field or left field if you can, 311 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 2: and just pray the ball doesn't go out there like 312 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 2: they put Garret Cooper out there. Could he be worse 313 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:45,760 Speaker 2: than that? No, he wouldn't be worse than that. That 314 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 2: dude actually can't move. But the reason I was I 315 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 2: sent that text and I said, Arum, I'm kind of 316 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 2: starting to believe in the Miami Marlins. And it's not 317 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 2: to the belief like, oh, they're going to make this 318 00:15:57,320 --> 00:16:00,200 Speaker 2: deep postseason run and they're finally here. No, that's not 319 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 2: what I mean. But what I believe in is that 320 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 2: the process is starting to work, like you're starting to 321 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 2: see it. The offense isn't some terrible collection of randos anymore. 322 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 2: Like John Birdie, I like here, Cooper, I. 323 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 1: Like love John Bertie or Hey Solarkin bang Luisa Rise 324 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 1: doesn't get out Chisholm. You know, he still strikes out 325 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 1: too much for my liking. But you can't deny the incredible, 326 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 1: incredible talent of the center fielder. And you just go 327 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 1: around the diamond. You're like, they've got some guys like 328 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 1: sit Jacob Stallings, he is not a major league catcher, 329 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 1: but Nick Fortes is, Like Nick Fortez has been one 330 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 1: of the best defensive catchers in the entire sport, and 331 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 1: he can hit around a little bit. But as long 332 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 1: as he's good defensively, which Jacob Stallings isn't, that's a 333 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:53,200 Speaker 1: plus there. Like Yankee fans want to get rid of 334 00:16:53,280 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 1: Jose Jervino, you can't get rid of Jose Gervino. The 335 00:16:55,560 --> 00:17:00,160 Speaker 1: defense is way too good. Nick Fortes ranks higher in 336 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 1: a lot of catching metrics, Like if you look at 337 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 1: baseball perspectives, who I think is the best catching metrics? 338 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 1: He's number two to Jonahim. He has been a stud 339 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 1: Like Sandy is that guy still? I know he's, you know, 340 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 1: off to this kind of weird start, but he's gonna 341 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:17,960 Speaker 1: bounce back. I'm not worried about him. Edward when he 342 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 1: throws strikes is disgusting. Hess Lozarto is that guy. And 343 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:25,840 Speaker 1: the bullpen Dylan Floro A J. Puck, I'm kind of 344 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 1: excited Oscar Brasovaan he's been awesome. Oscar Brazo, Ben's been awesome. 345 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 2: Uh No, the bullpen kind of looks like they've they've 346 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:36,640 Speaker 2: got it together a little bit, like they it seems 347 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:39,359 Speaker 2: like it's good enough, it's better than last year. And 348 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:42,479 Speaker 2: they're doing this without Trevor Rodgers, now without Johnny Quato, 349 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:44,440 Speaker 2: who is gonna be an important depth arm for them, 350 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 2: and they're about to get you know, Joey Wendel back. 351 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:49,400 Speaker 2: We're not talking about the sexiest editions, but those are 352 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:52,240 Speaker 2: guys that help make players, and they've helped their decent 353 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 2: players their bodies, so their bodies. I'm really interested to 354 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 2: see what they do. The Edward Cabrera experiences is one that, dude, 355 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:00,720 Speaker 2: I would have put a lot of mo like live 356 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:02,440 Speaker 2: bet that it was going to be a blow up start. 357 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 2: Last start he finishes with twelve k's like he is 358 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 2: a roller coaster. But that said, like the upside of 359 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:10,639 Speaker 2: this rotation, we've talked about it. We're seeing flashes of it. 360 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 2: So this team's going to be volatile. But I think 361 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 2: we're about two weeks away from a positive RM rant 362 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:20,320 Speaker 2: if they play well over the next two weeks. 363 00:18:21,040 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 1: All right, now, we got a great question. Do you 364 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:29,760 Speaker 1: think there's a realistic shot at Dylan Cees being dealt? 365 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:34,160 Speaker 1: And if so, which teams do you think would be interested? 366 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:38,640 Speaker 1: Asked by k L e I n E s c 367 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:41,679 Speaker 1: R O d e R on Twitter. I don't want 368 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 1: to mispronounce that Twitter handle, but of course you can 369 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:47,240 Speaker 1: find all the different Twitter handles in the episode description. 370 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:52,840 Speaker 1: I don't know, Like I hate to say, I don't 371 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 1: have a definitive answer for this question. 372 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:56,239 Speaker 2: We can talk through it. 373 00:18:57,600 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 1: I was hoping maybe you'd go through Dylan and Cees's 374 00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:02,879 Speaker 1: car on track details for us, maybe see where he 375 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:07,439 Speaker 1: is in arbitration extensions, all that good stuff. But the 376 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:11,679 Speaker 1: White Sox, like we didn't include them in contenders that 377 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:14,600 Speaker 1: are going to bounce back. No, the Chicago White Sox 378 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:18,919 Speaker 1: at this point are eight and twenty one. The only 379 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 1: teams with eight or less wins are the Chicago White Sox, 380 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:31,359 Speaker 1: the Kansas City Royals, the Oakland A's end of list 381 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:38,200 Speaker 1: that is dreadful, and the rebuild didn't work. Obviously, this 382 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:40,240 Speaker 1: was supposed to be starting the year where they're getting 383 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 1: all these guys and they're supposed to be really good. 384 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 1: Dylan Cees could get a franchise changing haul. So there's 385 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:52,159 Speaker 1: a part of me that says, if the White Sox 386 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 1: continue to bottom out, and I don't really see the 387 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 1: shining light in the distance. With this team, Michael Kopek 388 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 1: has the worst XCRA in all of baseball. Lucas Gilido 389 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 1: might just be a four or five guy in the 390 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:18,200 Speaker 1: era department. Dylan Cees, Tim Anderson, these are incredibly quality 391 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:21,960 Speaker 1: assets that you can cash in on and say, you 392 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:27,480 Speaker 1: know what, we made a mistake. We have to rebuild again, 393 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 1: and we have to clean house. And Dylan Cees. We 394 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:34,840 Speaker 1: talk about what a Sandy deal could get. A Dylan 395 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:41,040 Speaker 1: ceasteal would shock the league. Yeah, is it possible? And 396 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:44,719 Speaker 1: my answer is I don't know, because he's so valuable 397 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:48,600 Speaker 1: and he's still young, and even if the White Sox 398 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:50,960 Speaker 1: blow up everybody, don't they say, well, we still have 399 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:53,360 Speaker 1: to keep Dylan Cease to sell tickets. 400 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 2: So I have a question. I have a question for you. 401 00:20:56,880 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 2: Are the White Sox going to be good within three years? 402 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 1: No, they're They're their farm system. You could say better 403 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:05,120 Speaker 1: than I. 404 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 2: It's but they're terrible. So second question, would the White 405 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 2: Sox pay Dylan Cease two hundred and whatever million dollars? 406 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:17,400 Speaker 1: Well, they did give Andrew ben Attendee the largest contract 407 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:20,479 Speaker 1: in their franchise history at about one hundred million. 408 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:23,920 Speaker 2: Was it like it was like seventy or you have 409 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:28,760 Speaker 2: something like that. They've never given out a nine figure deal. 410 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:31,439 Speaker 2: Jack told us that, Yeah, they've never given out no 411 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:33,679 Speaker 2: figure deal. And then are they going to double that? 412 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:37,359 Speaker 2: No shot, No so, no shot. He's a Boris client. 413 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:41,159 Speaker 2: I think the writing's on the wall. And if you're 414 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:42,800 Speaker 2: Dylan Ceas, you want to play the rest of your 415 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:47,400 Speaker 2: career in that and that disaster over there. I think 416 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 2: he's got to be mean enough. I don't think we're 417 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:53,400 Speaker 2: being mean enough. And I think White Sox fans would 418 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:56,400 Speaker 2: tell you that. I mean, that monologue on local White 419 00:21:56,400 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 2: Sox radio the greatest calls of all time, unbelievable, well 420 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:04,159 Speaker 2: informed and hilarious. But I'm looking at this team and 421 00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:07,119 Speaker 2: you just kind of went through it all of their assets, 422 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 2: Like I think you obviously have Luis Robert locked up, 423 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:15,320 Speaker 2: like that's a building block, Eloy Jimenez, Like you gotta 424 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 2: kind of hold on to him because, like I don't 425 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 2: think his values are high. You trade him, you're not 426 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:23,400 Speaker 2: getting much for him. You're not getting much for Coopek, 427 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:26,280 Speaker 2: you're not getting anything for Clevenger, You're not getting much 428 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 2: for Lance Plain, if anything at all. And because Giolito 429 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:29,960 Speaker 2: is about to be a free agent, so his value 430 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:33,080 Speaker 2: is pretty much useless too. You got Tim Anderson for 431 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:34,840 Speaker 2: a year and a half, which should still get you 432 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:36,960 Speaker 2: a pretty nice return, but the only guy that's getting 433 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:39,119 Speaker 2: you a franchise altering return is still in cease. And 434 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:40,560 Speaker 2: I think it's the White Sox start to look in 435 00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:42,320 Speaker 2: the mirror and realize, Hey, this is not going to 436 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 2: get better anytime soon. I think they might have to 437 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:48,360 Speaker 2: cash in their most valuable chip here. And I don't 438 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:49,640 Speaker 2: know if it's this year, I don't know if it's 439 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:51,720 Speaker 2: next year. I don't know if it's a deadline, I 440 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:53,199 Speaker 2: don't know if it's in the off season, but I 441 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 2: think they'd be nuts not to trade Dylan Seas and 442 00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 2: I think that they're already starting to realize that it's 443 00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:58,960 Speaker 2: probably gonna be the case, especially with him being a 444 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:02,360 Speaker 2: Scott Boris client. So Cee says two years of control 445 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:04,719 Speaker 2: after this one, so you could say too and change 446 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:07,040 Speaker 2: it's two and a half. If he's traded at the deadline, 447 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:12,160 Speaker 2: that's extremely valuable. They could get a franchise altering return there. 448 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 2: You look at like the Cardinals and what they could 449 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:16,920 Speaker 2: put together, look at the Orioles, though I know it's 450 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:18,919 Speaker 2: not their standard practice, and what they could put together, 451 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:21,680 Speaker 2: like some of these teams out there, the Dodgers could 452 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 2: put together franchise altering packages. We saw Trede Turner and 453 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:28,920 Speaker 2: Max Schurzer packaged together. What if the White Sox packaged 454 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:30,919 Speaker 2: Sees and Tim Anderson to the Dodgers and just let 455 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:34,480 Speaker 2: bail the Dodgers out again, Like that's something that could happen. 456 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 2: So I think they'd be nuts not to trade him, 457 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 2: to be honest, because you're not winning with Dylan Sees. 458 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:41,680 Speaker 2: You're just not It's not happening. 459 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:46,960 Speaker 1: It's not happening. So let's do some mock trades. Why not? 460 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:51,119 Speaker 1: Why not us, let's do some mock trades for Dylan Cees. 461 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 1: So you mentioned three teams that could definitely be in 462 00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 1: the mix, Saint Louis Cardinals, the Baltimore Orioles, and the 463 00:23:57,320 --> 00:24:01,280 Speaker 1: Los Angeles Dodgers. Who else do you think could possibly 464 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 1: be in the mix there for a guy like Dylan Cees. Now, 465 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:09,240 Speaker 1: when I rack my brain and I think about some 466 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 1: of the teams that potentially do it, I wonder, and 467 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:17,159 Speaker 1: this is kind of a bad answer, but it was 468 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 1: on kind of the top of my mind, and I 469 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:22,480 Speaker 1: was thinking about it. The Angels are playing good baseball. 470 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:27,280 Speaker 1: They are like we make fun of them sometimes because 471 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:29,800 Speaker 1: it's always if not now when. 472 00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:32,000 Speaker 2: This is the time. 473 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:36,000 Speaker 1: Otani's about to be a free agent, right, Mike Trout 474 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 1: ain't getting any younger. And they have the lineup, and 475 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:43,360 Speaker 1: they have a decent starting pitching staff, but a lot 476 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:45,439 Speaker 1: of them are lefties. It would be nice to slot 477 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:48,160 Speaker 1: in one of the best right handed pitchers in all 478 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:51,040 Speaker 1: of Major League Baseball. So they're a team I thought 479 00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:54,920 Speaker 1: of that. I think we could possibly workshop. The Cardinals 480 00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:58,679 Speaker 1: are definitely that team. I go through the teams, like 481 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:04,200 Speaker 1: the astro. Luis Garcia got removed from his last game 482 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 1: with elbow discomfort. We're hoping he's going to be okay, 483 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:11,240 Speaker 1: but that's not good. Jose ra Keaty was just put 484 00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:15,680 Speaker 1: on the shelf. You already lost Justin Verlander. Right, So 485 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:19,720 Speaker 1: the rotation as we sit here today is Framber, Christian Javier. 486 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 1: Then what yeah, right, we saw Brandon Black come in 487 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:27,400 Speaker 1: give them four innings. Okay, that's not a guy here 488 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:30,080 Speaker 1: starting every fifth day. With all due respect to him, 489 00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 1: like credit to him, I think he was on a 490 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:35,160 Speaker 1: bus from Reno and just hopped on and was good 491 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 1: for him. That's awesome, And I don't think he's the 492 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:40,479 Speaker 1: fourth starter for them right now. So the Astros are 493 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:44,120 Speaker 1: a team. The Angels are a team that I'm looking at. 494 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 2: How about the Tampa Bay Rays? Fuck yeah, the Rays 495 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:54,560 Speaker 2: have been in conversations for some of these big deals 496 00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:56,840 Speaker 2: and just haven't quite pushed it across the finish line. 497 00:25:57,480 --> 00:25:57,679 Speaker 2: You know. 498 00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:00,240 Speaker 1: I think they mentioned that slider with the Rays, That's. 499 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:01,720 Speaker 2: What I'm saying. And they look at everything from an 500 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:04,520 Speaker 2: asset management perspective, right almost like treating it like a 501 00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:07,280 Speaker 2: private equity verb and like if they feel like they're overpaying, 502 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:10,600 Speaker 2: they won't overpay. But I think in this spot they 503 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:13,199 Speaker 2: could beat a lot of packages, and they've got so 504 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:16,400 Speaker 2: many guys and they have such a log jam right 505 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:19,920 Speaker 2: now organizationally. You know, Curtis Mead is just sitting there 506 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:23,040 Speaker 2: in triple A. Kyle Monzardo is sitting there in Triple A. 507 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:24,680 Speaker 2: Those are two big league ready bats. And if you're 508 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:27,119 Speaker 2: the White Sox, like the White Sox can't really handle 509 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 2: a full full, full, full full tear down like training 510 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:32,760 Speaker 2: Dylancy's for a bunch of eighteen nineteen year olds. That's 511 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:34,920 Speaker 2: gonna look real bad. It's not gonna look too much 512 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:36,560 Speaker 2: better that you're training them for Triple A guys. But 513 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:38,240 Speaker 2: at least those guys will be on the opening day 514 00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:41,480 Speaker 2: roster next year, and if they play, you're you're expediting 515 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:44,360 Speaker 2: this real, this rebuild, so like something around. I don't 516 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:45,960 Speaker 2: know if they trade meet because they're talking about a 517 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:47,760 Speaker 2: pre ar deal with him, but obviously if Dylant see 518 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:49,720 Speaker 2: some on the table now, you look at things differently. 519 00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:52,439 Speaker 2: But Meat and Manzarto are two of the best position 520 00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:55,080 Speaker 2: player prospects in the game, and those are two guys 521 00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:57,920 Speaker 2: that'll be big league ready pretty much tomorrow. They could 522 00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:00,240 Speaker 2: you could plug them in the lineup tomorrow. So like 523 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:02,359 Speaker 2: I could see them building a package around that with 524 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:05,159 Speaker 2: some of the other arms they have and pushing this 525 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:07,480 Speaker 2: thing forward. We've talked about the injuries that they've dealt 526 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:11,159 Speaker 2: with with the springs hurt obviously, the inconsistency of Glass 527 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:14,520 Speaker 2: now and bas and unavailability there. I assume they're not 528 00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:17,200 Speaker 2: going to pay glass Now ultimately, so I mean that's 529 00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:19,040 Speaker 2: money that's going to be opening up for them too, 530 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:21,400 Speaker 2: So they can feel pretty good about maybe leveraging those 531 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:23,240 Speaker 2: two and a half years and trying to extend cease 532 00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:25,800 Speaker 2: as they've started to look like they're going to spend 533 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:27,480 Speaker 2: a little bit more money. When the time is right, 534 00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:31,200 Speaker 2: the Rays could put together a hell of a package, dude, 535 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:33,920 Speaker 2: and that would be the way to make their statement 536 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:35,359 Speaker 2: here and say, yeah, I know we're off to a 537 00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:37,359 Speaker 2: great start, and maybe this is in the mid season. 538 00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:39,879 Speaker 2: I know we're in first place. Now you're going to 539 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:43,240 Speaker 2: be fearing us as the World Series favorite. I would 540 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:44,120 Speaker 2: love to see that. 541 00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:47,639 Speaker 1: I would absolutely love to see that. So of the 542 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 1: teams that we named, the Rays, the Orioles, the Astros, 543 00:27:54,920 --> 00:28:00,200 Speaker 1: the Angels, the Cardinals, and the Dodgers, right those where 544 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:03,920 Speaker 1: I think the main six that we talked about, who 545 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 1: do you think makes the most sense? 546 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:08,200 Speaker 2: Let's let's do this. 547 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:12,040 Speaker 1: So we have those six teams, let's knock it down 548 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:14,800 Speaker 1: to our three favorites and then come up with the trade. 549 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 1: Ok So we'll go through them again. I think the 550 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:21,320 Speaker 1: Dodgers have to be in that top three. I agree, 551 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:23,240 Speaker 1: and I think the I think the Rays do I 552 00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:31,880 Speaker 1: really do? Okay, so we'll do the Rays. So then Cardinals, Astros, Angels, 553 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:34,200 Speaker 1: and Orioles. 554 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:38,760 Speaker 2: So I hear you on the Astros from a like 555 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:41,560 Speaker 2: team perspective, of course, like that makes so much sense. 556 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:44,600 Speaker 2: I think they might not have the assets like okay, 557 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:47,360 Speaker 2: fair enough so that I think they they'd be spread 558 00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:49,520 Speaker 2: way too thin trying to put that deal together, Like 559 00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:51,800 Speaker 2: they'd get out bid for sure. So I think we 560 00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:52,960 Speaker 2: can eliminate. 561 00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:59,720 Speaker 1: Them down to three Cardinals Orioles Angels. 562 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:02,440 Speaker 2: Angels are gonna be hard pressed to make a Dylan 563 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 2: Cee's package. Adell, Joe Adell, Edgar Carrow I love, and 564 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:11,760 Speaker 2: that's a crown Jewel like prospect. You could start a 565 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:13,880 Speaker 2: package there, but I don't think Adele and him are 566 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,360 Speaker 2: gonna get it done. They could slap something together, they'd 567 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:19,000 Speaker 2: get out bid by the Dodgers and the Rays. I 568 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 2: think the Cardinal like it's against their practice. But hell man, 569 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:23,920 Speaker 2: if you're just trying to climb back into the thicke 570 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:27,480 Speaker 2: of things and you can go get Dylan Ceese, like, 571 00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:30,120 Speaker 2: maybe this will be what pushes John mose Lock like 572 00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:34,280 Speaker 2: grow a set of nuts and do something. I think 573 00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:36,240 Speaker 2: I got my votes on the Cardinals because we know 574 00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:39,160 Speaker 2: what they've got prospect wise, they don't need to. They 575 00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:43,400 Speaker 2: were in on Juan Soda like they've had the interest 576 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:46,480 Speaker 2: to make the splash, but again, another very calculated team 577 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:47,880 Speaker 2: that's only gonna make the splash when it makes a 578 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 2: lot of sense for them. They were in on Sean 579 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:52,280 Speaker 2: Murphy but then drew the line. I think this could 580 00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:54,480 Speaker 2: be where they're like, all right, and that was when 581 00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:56,440 Speaker 2: they were really good. They're up to a slow start. 582 00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:59,480 Speaker 2: Now a little bit more urgency. They could put together 583 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 2: a package without Jordan Walker and I think get Dylan 584 00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:03,560 Speaker 2: Cees with the prospects that they have. 585 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:11,480 Speaker 1: Okay, Cardinals raise Dodgers. Now we uh, we shortened the 586 00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:15,920 Speaker 1: list because we see what type of package they would get. 587 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:22,120 Speaker 1: So if we go back to that deal with a 588 00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:25,760 Speaker 1: Max Scherzer and Trey Turner to the Dodgers, they had 589 00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:30,320 Speaker 1: to give up Josiah Gray, iber Luiz. Who else was 590 00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 1: in that deal? That was that was it was mostly 591 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:33,080 Speaker 1: centered around them. 592 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:35,479 Speaker 2: Those were the two crown jewels and then he had 593 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 2: a couple other fillers in that deal, but it was 594 00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:41,640 Speaker 2: really Ruiz and I mean two top fifty prospects there 595 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:42,560 Speaker 2: that we're big league ready. 596 00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:47,160 Speaker 1: So okay, but Dylan Cees, you know, even if he's 597 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:49,280 Speaker 1: not included with Tim Anderson, those guys were free agents 598 00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:52,280 Speaker 1: after the year. So let's just say what it's going 599 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:57,360 Speaker 1: to take is at least two top fifty prospects and 600 00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:00,760 Speaker 1: then two fillers ye to get a Dylan's I think 601 00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:04,280 Speaker 1: that's a fair deal. For the Chicago White Sox, two 602 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:08,480 Speaker 1: top fifty is awesome. Yeah, So for the Cardinals, it 603 00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:15,600 Speaker 1: would probably have to center around who Mason Win potentially 604 00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:20,680 Speaker 1: and Matthew Liberator. All right, Mason Win and Matthew Liberator. 605 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:23,160 Speaker 2: Those are like just outside the top fifty. But like 606 00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:25,120 Speaker 2: it's you know, then you throw in a third guy 607 00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:28,120 Speaker 2: that's of higher value, right, So then instead you add 608 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:30,840 Speaker 2: Yvon Herrera, who I think they'd be very interested in 609 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:32,680 Speaker 2: because they need help and catch her too. They don't 610 00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:36,720 Speaker 2: have anybody coming up and Asmani Grondal like that, that's 611 00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:39,320 Speaker 2: not helping you right now. So Yvon Herrera and then 612 00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:39,760 Speaker 2: a filler. 613 00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:42,040 Speaker 1: It's so funny. The Cardinals could easily do. 614 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:46,480 Speaker 2: That and not even give a shit. You could do that, 615 00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:48,840 Speaker 2: yet here we are like tink Kents. You could you 616 00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:51,200 Speaker 2: could include in that too, like maybe the White Sox 617 00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:53,800 Speaker 2: have interest in tink Kents. That's the craziest part. Pick 618 00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:57,320 Speaker 2: several of the aforementioned guys here Mason Win, Tink Kent, 619 00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:03,760 Speaker 2: Gordon Grisefo, Matthew libertre Cooper, Jerpy, Yvon Herrera. Like they 620 00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:06,520 Speaker 2: can trade two of those arms, they can trade three. 621 00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:09,720 Speaker 2: I would prefer to keep Hence. But if the White 622 00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:13,120 Speaker 2: Sox want Hens, Okay, take Hens, then I think I 623 00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:15,080 Speaker 2: think Libertore makes more sense because you can plug him 624 00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:18,560 Speaker 2: right into your rotation again, expedite this rebuild. So Libby 625 00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:23,040 Speaker 2: Win and Yvon Herrera and then another piece like that's 626 00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:25,320 Speaker 2: a they don't blink and that's a good package. 627 00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:28,400 Speaker 1: That is a good package, all right, Los Angeles Dodgers. 628 00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:33,040 Speaker 1: It's gonna have to be either Gavin Stone or Bobby Miller. Yeah, 629 00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:37,920 Speaker 1: then we're probably looking at Andy Pajes. Yep, we might 630 00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:39,600 Speaker 1: be looking at Michael Bush. 631 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:39,880 Speaker 2: The Bush. 632 00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:44,200 Speaker 1: So who would you rather give up Stone or Miller? 633 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:46,160 Speaker 1: Which is a loaded question. 634 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:53,720 Speaker 2: I would say Miller just because the shoulder discomfort, a 635 00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:56,880 Speaker 2: little bit of inconsistency there, Like Stone is a safer bet. 636 00:32:57,960 --> 00:32:59,880 Speaker 2: White Sox go with the upside. They get their kind 637 00:32:59,920 --> 00:33:05,160 Speaker 2: of like second copeck good luck Bobby Miller. So I'd 638 00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:10,400 Speaker 2: go Bobby Miller, Michael Bush and Andy Payes. I mean 639 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:13,840 Speaker 2: that's that's that's a good package. 640 00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:20,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, and then another piece ye throw in throwing River Ryan. 641 00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:21,520 Speaker 2: Actually really like River Ryan. 642 00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:24,440 Speaker 1: River Ryan. That's a great name. The marketable name. Will 643 00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:26,120 Speaker 1: sell tickets in the South side of Chicago. 644 00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:28,680 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, everyone's gonna be winding up to see River Ryan. 645 00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:33,640 Speaker 2: All right. I wish Jack was here. I do so. 646 00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:38,760 Speaker 1: The Tampa Bay Rays they could do something and not 647 00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:41,880 Speaker 1: even feel it. And the and the White Sox they 648 00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:44,720 Speaker 1: should be saying we need either Taj Bradley or Shane 649 00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:50,840 Speaker 1: Boss right, yeah, they should like they need that. They 650 00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:54,520 Speaker 1: should and the Rays could easily do that. The Rays, 651 00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:56,280 Speaker 1: I think, you know, the Rays could trade. 652 00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:59,960 Speaker 2: Bos and not. I would let me ask, you would 653 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:02,080 Speaker 2: rather trade Boz or Bradley. You've got to see Bradley 654 00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:04,640 Speaker 2: now at the big league level. I know Boz is awesome, 655 00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:06,800 Speaker 2: but we've seen, you know, kind of the injury history. 656 00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:11,240 Speaker 2: They're very similar profiles. Bradley's obviously very young, much younger. 657 00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:16,120 Speaker 2: There's they're kind of similar to each other in a lot. 658 00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:18,839 Speaker 2: They are very similar sands the injury history, so you're 659 00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:21,399 Speaker 2: taking a younger, less injured. But then Boz, I think, 660 00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:24,440 Speaker 2: is a little bit more upside just with this quality 661 00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:26,600 Speaker 2: of stuff is just like might be a slight notch above. 662 00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:30,360 Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. If I just would like to 663 00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:33,200 Speaker 1: keep Shane Boss, like I think Shane Boss is the 664 00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:35,680 Speaker 1: fucking truth, Like I think he's in the same breath 665 00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:38,440 Speaker 1: as a Grace And Rodriguez went healthy like one of 666 00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:41,480 Speaker 1: the best overall pitching prospects in baseball. He absolutely was. 667 00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:46,680 Speaker 1: So we'll give Taj Bradley, who's still an amazing pitching prospect. 668 00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:50,279 Speaker 1: Like taking Shane Bos over TODG. Bradley is not you know. 669 00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:52,440 Speaker 2: The only world where I'm trading either of those guys 670 00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:54,480 Speaker 2: is if I'm getting a Dyllancy's too, like if I'm 671 00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:55,799 Speaker 2: s So there you go. 672 00:34:55,880 --> 00:35:02,480 Speaker 1: Okay, Shane Baz, No, sorry, we're trading TOAJ Bradley. Okay, Manzardo. 673 00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:06,759 Speaker 1: He can't also throw meat in there, No, no, not 674 00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:09,920 Speaker 1: if you're getting Bradley, No way. Yeah, So Bradley, Manzardo 675 00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:14,600 Speaker 1: and then who. 676 00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:16,200 Speaker 2: Got a good piece because they have Carson Williams, who 677 00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:18,120 Speaker 2: is a top fifty guy for us, are just baseball 678 00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:21,359 Speaker 2: junior common arrow. I would not trade for anything right now. 679 00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:23,600 Speaker 2: That guy's hundred with seven pumps in high end. 680 00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:25,360 Speaker 1: Now is when you trade him though, and he's gonna 681 00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:27,720 Speaker 1: suck on the White Sox. You know, he's gonna stuck 682 00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:29,680 Speaker 1: on the White Sox. I mean they got him for 683 00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:36,400 Speaker 1: Tobias Meyers straight up. So that's that's gonna be the 684 00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:37,600 Speaker 1: highest price right there. 685 00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:42,680 Speaker 2: Raised fans will actually block us if we trade Taj Bradley, 686 00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:46,160 Speaker 2: Kyle Mozardo and Junior common Arrow, like like, never listen 687 00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:50,800 Speaker 2: to the show again. I'm telling you're getting Dylan Cees. 688 00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:54,920 Speaker 2: I think Carson Willis swap Carson Williams from Manzardo. 689 00:35:56,239 --> 00:36:00,879 Speaker 1: Okay, so Carson Williams to Bradley and. 690 00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:03,160 Speaker 2: Who Junior common Era. 691 00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:07,839 Speaker 1: Oh that's a funck all right, I want to hear 692 00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:13,000 Speaker 1: on YouTube. Leave us some comments if these trades are 693 00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:14,440 Speaker 1: we out of our mind? 694 00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:17,000 Speaker 2: Yeah? And White Sox fans, which ones do you like 695 00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:19,880 Speaker 2: the most? And also if you hate them all like 696 00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:22,560 Speaker 2: which it's also very possible that's what ends up happening. 697 00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:25,280 Speaker 2: Race fans no way to do that. White Sox fans 698 00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:27,880 Speaker 2: not enough on any of those like, and it's just like, 699 00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:31,480 Speaker 2: all right, this is why trades never happened, Like this 700 00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:34,440 Speaker 2: is why so I would say these packages are like 701 00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:37,360 Speaker 2: that changes a lot for the white sox it does, 702 00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:39,400 Speaker 2: and I know it sucks to lose Ceas, but you 703 00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:40,640 Speaker 2: ain't winning with Dylan Cees. 704 00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:45,200 Speaker 1: So speaking about a lot of players trading players, you 705 00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:47,200 Speaker 1: know a lot of people listen to our podcast to 706 00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:51,000 Speaker 1: get fantasy baseball advice, and we partnered with So Rare, 707 00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:54,239 Speaker 1: which is the best fantasy app. I mean, it's just 708 00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:58,880 Speaker 1: so much fun. You're consistently building your fantasy team throughout 709 00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:00,960 Speaker 1: the season. And I got to toss it over to 710 00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:04,640 Speaker 1: my guy Rum because he has been absolutely in the weeds. 711 00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:07,760 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, so Rare and having so much fun, probably 712 00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:09,400 Speaker 1: spending more money than you need to, but it's so 713 00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:11,600 Speaker 1: much fun that you're getting all the players and you're winning. 714 00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:13,719 Speaker 1: Give us an update and you're so Rare team. Yeah. 715 00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:17,120 Speaker 2: So I've got my free team, which is Cooking. You know. 716 00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:19,000 Speaker 2: That's the team that you can draft for free with 717 00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:21,719 Speaker 2: with the link in our podcast description. You put it 718 00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:24,200 Speaker 2: together and then as you enter competitions, you can win 719 00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:28,640 Speaker 2: cards of actual value monetarily, or you win cards that 720 00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:31,760 Speaker 2: are also like part of that free designation, the common cards, 721 00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:34,000 Speaker 2: and you add them to your lineup and keep reinforcing 722 00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:36,640 Speaker 2: it and keep reinforcing it. So my common lineup is 723 00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:39,040 Speaker 2: pretty loaded. It's getting to the point now where I've 724 00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:42,280 Speaker 2: got like tough decisions to make because I'm looking across 725 00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:44,920 Speaker 2: my lineup and you know, like I've got a Kunya, 726 00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:47,000 Speaker 2: but I've also got Corbyn Carrol. So now it's at 727 00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:48,759 Speaker 2: the point like before it was just I would pick 728 00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:50,359 Speaker 2: the best player and put him in my lineup. Now 729 00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:52,840 Speaker 2: it's like, okay, I got to figure out the matchups 730 00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:55,480 Speaker 2: a little bit. So for the for the common lineup, 731 00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:57,960 Speaker 2: like I encourage everyone to go try it because you 732 00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:00,839 Speaker 2: can pick your players. Remember keeping in mind that you're 733 00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:03,000 Speaker 2: looking at guys for the entire course of the season, 734 00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:04,719 Speaker 2: So you know, you don't just want guys that are 735 00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:06,399 Speaker 2: off to a great start that you might not think 736 00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:08,960 Speaker 2: it's sustainable. You also just want to pick good players 737 00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:11,239 Speaker 2: that you think will be good all year. So for 738 00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:13,319 Speaker 2: this week, I've got Sho hey O Tani on the 739 00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:16,839 Speaker 2: bump that's always gonna go well. Albert Alzalai has been 740 00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:21,120 Speaker 2: my reliever, that's been awesome. Bregman's been disappointing me at third. 741 00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:24,160 Speaker 2: I'm waiting to get like a third basement update, you know, 742 00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:27,320 Speaker 2: like to basically hopefully my next reward is a third basement. 743 00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:30,000 Speaker 2: I just have not been getting one. Lindor has been unbelievable, 744 00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:33,239 Speaker 2: it's short, and Akunya has been unreal. In the outfield, 745 00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:35,920 Speaker 2: Corbyn Carrol is like my Flex and then Sunny Gray's 746 00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:38,520 Speaker 2: my Pitcher Flex, so I'm in really good shape there. 747 00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:40,520 Speaker 2: And then for those that want to like spend a 748 00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:43,600 Speaker 2: few bucks and play in the limited competitions, which is 749 00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:46,640 Speaker 2: with those limited cards, you can get them for pretty cheap. 750 00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:49,000 Speaker 2: They have bundles for like forty dollars where you can 751 00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:51,239 Speaker 2: get four or five cards. That's where I got Araya's 752 00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:56,280 Speaker 2: Ashcraft Pascantino and put those guys into my team. I'm 753 00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:58,439 Speaker 2: trying to ball on a budget with the limited team 754 00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:00,840 Speaker 2: and earn my rewards and just keep get limited cards. 755 00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:03,920 Speaker 2: I got hosed with an Austin Gomber reward thanks a 756 00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:06,920 Speaker 2: lot so rare, but no, they've also hit me up 757 00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:10,160 Speaker 2: with some with some good rewards as well. I need 758 00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:11,960 Speaker 2: to upgrade my Flex. Last week I was talking to 759 00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:14,280 Speaker 2: Jack about that. I picked up Jack Soonwinsky for two bucks, 760 00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:16,319 Speaker 2: which was a great, great, great pickup, and he's been 761 00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:18,759 Speaker 2: helping me big time. But I want to upgrade one 762 00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:22,399 Speaker 2: more like a bat and one more pitcher, and I'm 763 00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:25,960 Speaker 2: trying to find like an underrated pitcher to pick up 764 00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:28,480 Speaker 2: that people aren't totally on because remember it's like a market, 765 00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:31,719 Speaker 2: so uh like, who are people like maybe still overlooking 766 00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:34,000 Speaker 2: a little bit that I could scoop up on the 767 00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:37,000 Speaker 2: mound for so rare because my team is like I 768 00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:40,560 Speaker 2: just missed the an Ethereum reward. So like, if I 769 00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:42,040 Speaker 2: can upgrade this team a little bit, like I can 770 00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:45,359 Speaker 2: actually win cash or tickets or VIP experiences and that's 771 00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:46,640 Speaker 2: like all the things that you can win here on 772 00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:49,960 Speaker 2: so rare, I need like a slight upgrade in my 773 00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:54,240 Speaker 2: rotation right now, because Ashcraft is good in the right matchup, 774 00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:56,279 Speaker 2: but like I need another another arm that I can 775 00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:58,560 Speaker 2: pick on because sometimes they aren't pitching in that week 776 00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:02,360 Speaker 2: competition too, because there's you usually it's three day competitions. 777 00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:05,440 Speaker 1: So I really like these young pitchers for the Guardians 778 00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:09,120 Speaker 1: Logan Allen and Tanner Biby end of the programmer. I 779 00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:11,560 Speaker 1: think both of them are very solid pickups because they're 780 00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:15,560 Speaker 1: still really young, but they just look like they're you know, 781 00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:19,080 Speaker 1: from the Cleveland Pitching Lab where these guys who just 782 00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:22,799 Speaker 1: have great pitchability, but didn't have great stuff, but now 783 00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:26,000 Speaker 1: this stuff looks great. Like Logan Allen can put the 784 00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:30,240 Speaker 1: ball wherever he wants. Yeah, Tanner Bibey has multiple plus pitches. 785 00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:32,600 Speaker 1: I think those guys like not everyone has come around 786 00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:34,799 Speaker 1: to them yet, but they're like some of the guys 787 00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:37,560 Speaker 1: that are keeping the Guardians in check with no Tristan McKenzie, 788 00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:40,560 Speaker 1: cal Quantrell struggling more than you know in previous years, 789 00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:43,680 Speaker 1: and Shane Bieber has been good but not amazing, and 790 00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:46,680 Speaker 1: it's like the guys at the bottom. You know, Zach 791 00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:49,200 Speaker 1: Police continues to get bombed. I don't know why they 792 00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:51,560 Speaker 1: would keep him in the rotation over these two guys. 793 00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:55,040 Speaker 1: So I would take a strong look at Alan or Biby. 794 00:40:55,680 --> 00:41:00,480 Speaker 1: You got a VET underrated, VET under rated. I think 795 00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:02,160 Speaker 1: they're gonna be a big part of what they're doing 796 00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:05,160 Speaker 1: right now. Like I I definitely think those guys are 797 00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:06,760 Speaker 1: are worth a watch. 798 00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:09,360 Speaker 2: I think they still got to be added in. I 799 00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:11,680 Speaker 2: since they're new guys, they come in like the next drop. 800 00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:15,279 Speaker 2: So I love those guys. Like, are you buying what 801 00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:18,200 Speaker 2: Brax and Garrett is selling right now? He's got like 802 00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:21,400 Speaker 2: a two to two five? Yeah, like yes, but like 803 00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:23,560 Speaker 2: he's not gonna Is he gonna win me money? 804 00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:27,640 Speaker 1: No? Is Kakuci expensive of the Blue Jays. He's been nails. 805 00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:31,320 Speaker 2: No, I don't think so. Let me see he's been nails. 806 00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:35,560 Speaker 2: Kakuci is cheap. Yeah, that might be the pick up. 807 00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:38,840 Speaker 2: I think that's the picture, dude. 808 00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:41,359 Speaker 1: I mean, Alec Manoa has been one of baseball's worst 809 00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:44,680 Speaker 1: pitchers so far this season. Jose Brios had a good 810 00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:47,400 Speaker 1: stretch and then had a bad start against the Red Sox. 811 00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:51,400 Speaker 1: Kevin Gosman is still doing his thing, you know, Bassett 812 00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:54,120 Speaker 1: is up and down. But Kakuchi's been the second best 813 00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:54,960 Speaker 1: pitcher in that rotation. 814 00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:57,320 Speaker 2: And I want guys that can like give me flashes 815 00:41:57,360 --> 00:41:59,600 Speaker 2: because it gets short. If a guy gets bombed, he 816 00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:02,000 Speaker 2: gets bombed. I lose that competition that week, but the 817 00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:03,680 Speaker 2: beautiful thing is I can just do it again in 818 00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:06,640 Speaker 2: three days. But like Kakuchi has flashes, Like, I want 819 00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:08,680 Speaker 2: guys that can give me like ten k's or eight 820 00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:10,960 Speaker 2: or nine ks when you're locked in and win me 821 00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:14,719 Speaker 2: a competition. Kakuchi like could be that guy. So that 822 00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:17,319 Speaker 2: might be my pickup for like six dollars or whatever 823 00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:20,480 Speaker 2: it is. I think it's five six bucks. That might 824 00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:23,600 Speaker 2: be my my new addition to my limited team. My 825 00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:26,880 Speaker 2: free team is so much better. But it's crazy you 826 00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:29,560 Speaker 2: see it on paper, but my limited team is finished 827 00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:32,359 Speaker 2: higher on several occasions, and we talked about my All 828 00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:36,080 Speaker 2: Grinder teams like Yondi Diez, Luisa, Rayaz Alex Verdugo, and 829 00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:38,600 Speaker 2: Vinie Pascentino. Like that shows you, like I picked those 830 00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:41,160 Speaker 2: guys up early for a couple bucks. So like, if 831 00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:42,840 Speaker 2: you do want to kind of dip your toes in 832 00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:46,319 Speaker 2: the limited competitions, like if you know what you're doing 833 00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:48,640 Speaker 2: and you have some undervalued players you like, like you 834 00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:51,240 Speaker 2: can put together a pretty good team for like fifteen bucks, 835 00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:53,360 Speaker 2: but again you can do it for free with the 836 00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:55,040 Speaker 2: with the link in our podcast description. 837 00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:59,560 Speaker 1: Again, go draft your team on somewhere. It's such a blast. 838 00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:03,160 Speaker 1: The think is in our podcast description. Okay, moving on, 839 00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:05,719 Speaker 1: and this will be kind of a shorter one, but 840 00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:07,640 Speaker 1: I had to add it because of course, you know, 841 00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:10,239 Speaker 1: we debate over what the stats are telling us what 842 00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:13,040 Speaker 1: they aren't, and I kind of wanted to talk about 843 00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:16,600 Speaker 1: a specific player. So the question is who is the 844 00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:21,879 Speaker 1: definition of my eyes say against the stats? For me 845 00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:25,880 Speaker 1: as a Giants fan, it's JD Davis. His stats aren't 846 00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:28,359 Speaker 1: the greatest, but wanting him on the field and at 847 00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:32,239 Speaker 1: the plate, we would be around two wins without him, 848 00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:35,680 Speaker 1: as by Little DJ two to two seven. And this 849 00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:40,040 Speaker 1: is a guy who I go back and forth on 850 00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:47,160 Speaker 1: because I understand the advanced analytics argument, but the more 851 00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:50,400 Speaker 1: I watch him, the more I start to disagree. And 852 00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:53,560 Speaker 1: that player is Assie Albi's with the Atlanta Braves. Like 853 00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:55,560 Speaker 1: he's a guy who podcast is at. 854 00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:59,120 Speaker 2: Ozzie Albi's a roller coaster, all of us roller coaster. 855 00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:02,560 Speaker 1: You know what, He's fucking good and I don't care 856 00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:06,839 Speaker 1: who knows it. For example, are rum he's in the 857 00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:10,200 Speaker 1: first percentile of outs above average and the first percentile 858 00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:14,960 Speaker 1: of arm strike. That's bullshit, Like he's still the worst defender. 859 00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:18,400 Speaker 1: That is a fake stat. I love outs above average, 860 00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:20,600 Speaker 1: but they don't know what the fuck they're talking about, 861 00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:24,200 Speaker 1: because Auzzie outbis and through my eyes, is one of 862 00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:27,440 Speaker 1: the best defensive second basement of the sport. Yes, he 863 00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:30,520 Speaker 1: walks out a five percent rate, so his WRC plus 864 00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:32,279 Speaker 1: isn't gonna look that good. He has a two to 865 00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:35,719 Speaker 1: eighty six on base percentage. Yeah he doesn't walk, but 866 00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:38,359 Speaker 1: you know what he does do. Hit tanks. He's got 867 00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:42,279 Speaker 1: seven bombs, he's got three doubles. He doesn't have a 868 00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:44,560 Speaker 1: stolen base yet, which I don't really understand, but he will, 869 00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:48,360 Speaker 1: like at second base, Ok, yeah, my second basement, he will. 870 00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:52,320 Speaker 1: He's gonna get thirty my second basement. Can it twenty 871 00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:57,960 Speaker 1: to twenty five bombs, steal fifteen bags, hit thirty doubles, 872 00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:02,200 Speaker 1: and is expected batting average is even two seventy It's 873 00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:04,400 Speaker 1: not the two forty three it is now. He is 874 00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:07,400 Speaker 1: way better than a lot of people want to give 875 00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:10,200 Speaker 1: him credit for. Yeah, and like you forget he's twenty 876 00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:12,960 Speaker 1: six years old. He's not this thirty seven year old. 877 00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:14,640 Speaker 2: I'm with you on this one. Like I know he's 878 00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:16,440 Speaker 2: getting on base at a two eighty six clip, but 879 00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:19,360 Speaker 2: like I find it hard to believe that he is 880 00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:21,239 Speaker 2: a replacement level player right now. 881 00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:22,200 Speaker 1: He's way better than that. 882 00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:24,279 Speaker 2: In the eyes of f woar, he's zero point zero. 883 00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:27,359 Speaker 2: If anything's closer to zero point negative zero point one, 884 00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:30,799 Speaker 2: I think he's closer to that. I don't. I don't 885 00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:34,040 Speaker 2: understand that. I'm with you on that. Like I understand 886 00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:36,520 Speaker 2: his WRC plus is ninety seven right now. These seven 887 00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:39,239 Speaker 2: home runs in twenty nine games. I feel like such 888 00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:43,160 Speaker 2: a boomer right now, he's driven to twenty three runs, Like, yeah, yeah, 889 00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:46,799 Speaker 2: twenty three, Like I really want to know that if 890 00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:50,240 Speaker 2: you swapped out Azzi Abbi's for replacement level second basement, 891 00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:54,120 Speaker 2: are the Braves at the same exact record. I don't 892 00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:56,239 Speaker 2: think so, I don't like I don't think so. So 893 00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:58,520 Speaker 2: I'm with you on that one. I can back that. 894 00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:00,560 Speaker 2: I can. Okay, he's good. 895 00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:03,480 Speaker 1: He's not amazing, but he's gonna be better than like 896 00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:05,000 Speaker 1: a regular ass player. 897 00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:08,600 Speaker 2: He ain't no regular ass player. Yeah, no, I agree, 898 00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:11,680 Speaker 2: And mine's kind of from in the same breath, uh, 899 00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:15,080 Speaker 2: because like the guy's put up power numbers, but like 900 00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:17,600 Speaker 2: obviously the advanced numbers are going to kind of hate him. 901 00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:20,080 Speaker 2: I'm kind of just buying in. I know he's off 902 00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:21,640 Speaker 2: to a great start, but I'm buying into, like Patrick 903 00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:24,080 Speaker 2: Wisdom in terms of like him sustainably being a good 904 00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:26,680 Speaker 2: baseball player. I think he just bucks the trend of 905 00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:28,840 Speaker 2: So you look at his stats and you say his 906 00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:31,399 Speaker 2: success is unsustainable, Right, you look get twenty twenty one, 907 00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:34,200 Speaker 2: you know he hits twenty eight home runs for the Cups, 908 00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:36,759 Speaker 2: strikes out forty one percent of the time. We're all 909 00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:38,960 Speaker 2: prepared for twenty twenty two, where he's going to be, 910 00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:41,520 Speaker 2: you know, just kind of fall off a cliff and 911 00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:44,239 Speaker 2: not hit enough. He took a step back, but he 912 00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:46,839 Speaker 2: still put up a one on four WRC plus. Yeah, 913 00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:49,680 Speaker 2: he was a one win player and that step back 914 00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:51,440 Speaker 2: struck out thirty four percent of the time. Still hit 915 00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:53,680 Speaker 2: twenty five home runs, played all over as well. He's 916 00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:55,040 Speaker 2: not a great defender, but at least he can play 917 00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:57,239 Speaker 2: a bunch of different spots. So far this year, twenty 918 00:46:57,280 --> 00:46:59,640 Speaker 2: six games, he's hit ten home runs. He's already had 919 00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:02,399 Speaker 2: a one point point one four and he's playing all 920 00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:05,040 Speaker 2: over the dime. He's going to strike out a shit loud. 921 00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:07,040 Speaker 2: He might lead the league in strikeouts, and he doesn't 922 00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:09,880 Speaker 2: really walk to hedge it. So it's a really bizarre profile. 923 00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:12,239 Speaker 2: It's like two forty. He might not get on base 924 00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:15,920 Speaker 2: that much, but he's gonna slug five point fifty, and 925 00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:17,759 Speaker 2: I think there's something to be said about that. With 926 00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:21,680 Speaker 2: some possessional versatility, he steals a few bags. Like I 927 00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:23,600 Speaker 2: think we keep looking at it and saying, oh, yeah, well, 928 00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:26,360 Speaker 2: how long is it gonna last. Well, we're heading on 929 00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:28,440 Speaker 2: like two hundred and fifty games now of this of 930 00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:32,200 Speaker 2: him being a solid big league power bat, it's weird. 931 00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:36,160 Speaker 2: I don't get it, Like it's a weird profile. But 932 00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:38,239 Speaker 2: at this point, it's like, how can we deny what 933 00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:42,120 Speaker 2: he's doing. This is almost what is it, sixty home 934 00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:44,160 Speaker 2: runs over his last two hundred and something games, Like 935 00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:46,799 Speaker 2: this guy's just hit a bunch of homers. Actually, you 936 00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:49,400 Speaker 2: think it's closer. It's seventy home runs. Like this dude's 937 00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:51,439 Speaker 2: just hitting bombs. I think you got to give him credit, 938 00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:52,760 Speaker 2: Like he's an everyday player. 939 00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:55,719 Speaker 1: I love it because, like I see Patrick Wisdom in 940 00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:57,440 Speaker 1: the lineup every day, I'm like, oh, is he that good? 941 00:47:57,440 --> 00:47:59,040 Speaker 1: And then I watch Cubs games and like he hits 942 00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:03,000 Speaker 1: a bomb, like that's awesome, Like he's Jack and I 943 00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:05,359 Speaker 1: were even talking about it on a previous podcast. We're like, 944 00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:11,719 Speaker 1: if he has three separate two week stretches of hitting 945 00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:14,719 Speaker 1: like seven home runs, which he does it seems like 946 00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:17,040 Speaker 1: at least three times a year, then he sprinkles in 947 00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:18,759 Speaker 1: some more home runs. We're looking at a thirty home 948 00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:21,520 Speaker 1: run guy. Yeah, Like if you with thirty home runs, 949 00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:22,960 Speaker 1: I kind of want you on my team. 950 00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:25,759 Speaker 2: Like this is that's kind of what I'm saying here. 951 00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:28,840 Speaker 2: So the last three seasons, it start like I guess, 952 00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:31,960 Speaker 2: two seasons in the start of this year, one thirteen 953 00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:36,000 Speaker 2: WRC plus he's slugging for eighty one. Yeah, he's punching 954 00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:38,680 Speaker 2: out thirty seven percent of the time. But he's been 955 00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:41,480 Speaker 2: above replacement level player. He's got a five four Like 956 00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:45,239 Speaker 2: it's pretty fine. Like, I'll take that. So it's a 957 00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:48,360 Speaker 2: decent player. He's gonna run into baseballs. I like Pat Wisdom. 958 00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:50,000 Speaker 2: I think he's a part of what the Cubs are 959 00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:51,920 Speaker 2: doing here. That's not a guy I want to cast aside, 960 00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:54,960 Speaker 2: like he's better than Mancini, it's better than Osmer, Like 961 00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:56,400 Speaker 2: that's that's that's a guy that should be in the 962 00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:58,240 Speaker 2: lineup every day. I agree. 963 00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:00,759 Speaker 1: All right, let's move on to the next question. So, 964 00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:05,320 Speaker 1: as a Yankees fan, Monday's loss against the Guardians is 965 00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:07,640 Speaker 1: a loss that is going to sting for a very 966 00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:10,799 Speaker 1: very long time. If this team continues to play at 967 00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:13,319 Speaker 1: a level they are now a double A club at 968 00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:18,080 Speaker 1: best in parentheses, and continue to roll out IKF, Aaron Hicks, 969 00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:20,560 Speaker 1: and Willie Calhoun in the same lineup every single day 970 00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:23,000 Speaker 1: to the deadline. Do you think the Yankees will be 971 00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:26,719 Speaker 1: buyers or stay put if you think they buy. What 972 00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:36,719 Speaker 1: are some realistic trade packages? Asked by Chase Blcak on Instagram. 973 00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:40,680 Speaker 1: My first point to that is comparing them to a 974 00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:46,719 Speaker 1: double A club is disrespectful. They are the Savannah Bananas, 975 00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:50,680 Speaker 1: except they aren't dancing Double A at least have players. 976 00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:54,880 Speaker 1: These aren't players that we're looking at right now. The 977 00:49:55,000 --> 00:50:00,239 Speaker 1: Yankees this past stretch has been some of the worst 978 00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:04,080 Speaker 1: Yankees baseball I have watched. Do you know, and I 979 00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:06,200 Speaker 1: was looking at splits this morning, Arm, do you know 980 00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:10,520 Speaker 1: what the Yankees WRC plus is against right handed pitchers 981 00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:12,440 Speaker 1: in the last two weeks? I know, it's like a 982 00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:15,560 Speaker 1: weird you know, I mean, it's pretty relevant, dad, though, 983 00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:18,040 Speaker 1: it's what is their WRC plus against the picture that 984 00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:20,440 Speaker 1: they're gonna see the most a right hander over the 985 00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:22,839 Speaker 1: last two weeks. I'm gonna assume it's ass I'm gonna 986 00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:28,400 Speaker 1: assume it's eighty eight Wait? 987 00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:30,240 Speaker 2: Wait, what, well, what's the slash line? 988 00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:37,280 Speaker 1: It's like one eighteen two nineteen, like one seventy. Wait 989 00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:40,879 Speaker 1: it is URC plus against righty's over the last two weeks. Yes, 990 00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:44,799 Speaker 1: that makes on crack. Make sure because when I was 991 00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:47,480 Speaker 1: looking at it this morning. I queued it up and 992 00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:49,719 Speaker 1: I thought I saw eight. 993 00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:53,719 Speaker 2: All right, somebody listening out there, please check make sure 994 00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:55,560 Speaker 2: my friend Peter is not losing his mind over here, 995 00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:57,239 Speaker 2: because I don't believe him, like I believe you, but 996 00:50:57,280 --> 00:50:58,800 Speaker 2: I don't believe you. You know what I'm saying. 997 00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:01,120 Speaker 1: So what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna go through 998 00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:03,680 Speaker 1: the roster. I'm gonna throw it over to you for 999 00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:07,000 Speaker 1: your feedback, and then I'm gonna redo the queue and 1000 00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:10,040 Speaker 1: see if I didn't see something that just made me 1001 00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:12,879 Speaker 1: so upset because I'm watching a team that has an 1002 00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:19,120 Speaker 1: eight w rcity plus this lineup, Arm Layton, this New 1003 00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:24,600 Speaker 1: York Yankees lineup. They have a couple of good players. 1004 00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:30,840 Speaker 1: Anthony Rizzo is great, Glabor Torres is pretty good. DJ 1005 00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:36,320 Speaker 1: Lemayhew is pretty good. That's it. Aaron Judge is injured 1006 00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:39,360 Speaker 1: right now. So the current lineup as we sit here today, 1007 00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:41,839 Speaker 1: And this is why I understand Yankee fans when they're 1008 00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:45,239 Speaker 1: so upset. I saw this hilarious tweet on my timeline 1009 00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:48,279 Speaker 1: that when Harrison Bader returns from injury, and it was 1010 00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:51,279 Speaker 1: just a meme of Chris Paul hits a three from 1011 00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:54,200 Speaker 1: deep to cut down a forty two point lead. That 1012 00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:56,600 Speaker 1: was a perfect way to describe it, because it has 1013 00:51:56,640 --> 00:52:01,680 Speaker 1: been terrible. Kalagashioka is not a major league catcher like 1014 00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:06,160 Speaker 1: you go through Oswalda Cabrera cannot hit. Willie Calhoun should 1015 00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:08,440 Speaker 1: not be on a major league roster. Francis Cordero is 1016 00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:12,600 Speaker 1: already not on a major league roster, Aswalda Cobrera. Good 1017 00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:15,480 Speaker 1: young player, but at the end of the day, thirty 1018 00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:19,239 Speaker 1: eight WRC plus and Aaron Hicks is quite possibly the 1019 00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:25,839 Speaker 1: worst overall player, has a ten WRC plus. And what 1020 00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:31,000 Speaker 1: I don't understand. What I don't understand is why they 1021 00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:35,000 Speaker 1: keep shoving this lineup in our face. I understand that 1022 00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:38,080 Speaker 1: you have injuries, but at the same time, can you 1023 00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:42,760 Speaker 1: grab anybody else? Yeah, that be one not the worst 1024 00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:46,120 Speaker 1: overall players. And I keep saying, you know, I'm gonna 1025 00:52:46,239 --> 00:52:48,279 Speaker 1: keep giving Brown cash In a pass. You know they've 1026 00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:50,680 Speaker 1: been injured. I'm gonna keep giving Aaron Boone a pass 1027 00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:53,560 Speaker 1: because they keep getting injured. This is just what the 1028 00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:58,600 Speaker 1: Yankees are injured. Their whole team is going to be 1029 00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:02,399 Speaker 1: injured for the rest of time. It's like we've been 1030 00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:05,960 Speaker 1: doing this podcast now for multiple seasons. What is the 1031 00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:08,520 Speaker 1: main point we always talk about Yankees are gonna get 1032 00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:12,000 Speaker 1: guys back. They're just injured right now. That's the entire 1033 00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:14,000 Speaker 1: The last World Series I saw was. 1034 00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:14,879 Speaker 2: Two thousand and nine. 1035 00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:17,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, like as a twenty five year old Yankee fan, 1036 00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:20,279 Speaker 1: I've seen one that I remember. We have not been 1037 00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:23,640 Speaker 1: that good for a while, Like we've been good, We've 1038 00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:27,000 Speaker 1: gotten to an alcs and then just gotten absolutely trounced 1039 00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:30,359 Speaker 1: by the Astros year in year out. Never had a chance. 1040 00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:32,120 Speaker 1: And if we face the Mariners of the Bludgets in 1041 00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:34,279 Speaker 1: that series, I don't think we win. I've you know, 1042 00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:38,160 Speaker 1: still on that fact. So it's like, yes, is it 1043 00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:41,600 Speaker 1: not Aaron Boone's total fault? Like am I like fire 1044 00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:44,440 Speaker 1: the manager? No, because he doesn't have his players? Is 1045 00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:49,800 Speaker 1: it Brian Cashman's fault? Like those like, for lack of 1046 00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:54,000 Speaker 1: better word, like idiots in the lineup, Like he puts 1047 00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:57,160 Speaker 1: them there, Aaron Bood puts them there. These are guys 1048 00:53:57,160 --> 00:54:00,680 Speaker 1: that they acquired. They thought Willie Calhoun had some, they 1049 00:54:00,719 --> 00:54:06,400 Speaker 1: thought Francis Cordero had something like this is objectively and 1050 00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:08,799 Speaker 1: what you're saying like they're gonna bounce back. Yeah, like 1051 00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:12,240 Speaker 1: in three months when they get their players back. Yeah, 1052 00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:15,000 Speaker 1: and then let's see if they're great coming off injury, 1053 00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:18,200 Speaker 1: which is more than likely that they won't be as 1054 00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:21,680 Speaker 1: amazing as they were. Like the bullpen is blown up. 1055 00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:24,960 Speaker 1: Clay Holmes is not nearly the same guy like Jannie 1056 00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:27,919 Speaker 1: Peralta gets outs, but like Michael King is the only 1057 00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:31,120 Speaker 1: guy I rely on in the pen. Like Garrett Cole 1058 00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:34,759 Speaker 1: is five and zero in his five starts. Without Garrett Cole, 1059 00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:38,439 Speaker 1: they are ten and fifteen. Aaron Judge is by far 1060 00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:40,720 Speaker 1: the best hitter on in this lineup. He's the only 1061 00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:43,839 Speaker 1: guy that teams are actually game planning around. And when 1062 00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:47,360 Speaker 1: he's on the lineup, it's the Savannah Bananas without the dancing. 1063 00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:53,080 Speaker 2: Yeah. End of rent. I love it very good. I 1064 00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:55,799 Speaker 2: will tell you though, like I think about you every 1065 00:54:55,840 --> 00:54:58,080 Speaker 2: single time they put the lineup out. I'm like, bro, 1066 00:54:58,760 --> 00:55:01,000 Speaker 2: like it's one thing to be able to embarrassing. It's 1067 00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:03,120 Speaker 2: not even embarrassing. It's one thing gonna be a Marlins 1068 00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:04,839 Speaker 2: fan and see those lineups because it's like that's kind 1069 00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:06,840 Speaker 2: of the status quo. Like you mentioned, like not winning 1070 00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:09,440 Speaker 2: a World Series in two thousand and nine, minus the 1071 00:55:09,480 --> 00:55:13,200 Speaker 2: twenty twenty Mickey Mouse season, which I will not say 1072 00:55:13,239 --> 00:55:16,160 Speaker 2: when Walker's on the podcast, by the way, minus the 1073 00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:19,440 Speaker 2: twenty twenty Mickey Mouse season. Like the Marlins have not 1074 00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:22,200 Speaker 2: finished over five hundred since two thousand and nine. So 1075 00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:25,080 Speaker 2: like that's a lineup that you you associate with, like, oh, 1076 00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:26,920 Speaker 2: bad team sitting on their hands. It is the New 1077 00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:29,640 Speaker 2: York fucking Yankees. Like it's a joke. I'll ask you. 1078 00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:31,800 Speaker 2: Are you at the point where you would be excited 1079 00:55:31,840 --> 00:55:34,400 Speaker 2: about a Cole Calhoun debut because that is somebody that 1080 00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:35,400 Speaker 2: the Yankees picked up. 1081 00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:38,759 Speaker 1: He's gonna be fucking horrible, Like I already know he's 1082 00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:43,000 Speaker 1: gonna be terrible because you have fade by these random teams. Yeah, 1083 00:55:43,080 --> 00:55:46,040 Speaker 1: Like like Garrett Cole is gonna be a free agent soon. 1084 00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:48,960 Speaker 1: Garrett Cole is gonna be a free agent soon. He's 1085 00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:51,200 Speaker 1: gonna opt out. What are the Yankees gonna give him 1086 00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:55,000 Speaker 1: a fucking like trillion dollars because he deserves it. Some 1087 00:55:55,120 --> 00:55:56,799 Speaker 1: other team is going to if they're not going to 1088 00:55:57,280 --> 00:55:59,120 Speaker 1: sev Brito pitches eighteen. 1089 00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:02,360 Speaker 2: Ings a year. Yeah, I know is nef for quarters. 1090 00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:06,279 Speaker 2: Junior has a forte that is one start. I'm not 1091 00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:09,600 Speaker 2: letting you, boy, he is he has a forty nine one. 1092 00:56:09,719 --> 00:56:12,840 Speaker 2: All right, that's just the bottom line on him. You 1093 00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:18,640 Speaker 2: know he's gonna save you guys, Elijah Dunham. 1094 00:56:16,840 --> 00:56:20,160 Speaker 1: Maybe, or he puts up a thirty w RS plus 1095 00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:21,319 Speaker 1: like us older Cabrera does. 1096 00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:24,799 Speaker 2: Here's the one part that I really don't get and 1097 00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:26,759 Speaker 2: like I really do hear you on this because people 1098 00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:29,080 Speaker 2: are like, oh, well, why why does my team play 1099 00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:32,360 Speaker 2: this crappy replacement level player or below replacement level player? 1100 00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:34,800 Speaker 2: Like I get it when you have one hole and 1101 00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:36,680 Speaker 2: you're like, You're like, all right, I don't want to 1102 00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:38,520 Speaker 2: I don't want to compromise the forty man. I don't 1103 00:56:38,520 --> 00:56:40,239 Speaker 2: want to make any crazy decisions. We just got to 1104 00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:42,600 Speaker 2: get by for now with the one hole, Like you 1105 00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:45,080 Speaker 2: do that. But when you're the Yankees right now and 1106 00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:47,920 Speaker 2: you have three to four, maybe five guys in the 1107 00:56:47,960 --> 00:56:51,319 Speaker 2: lineup that you could DFA and no one's claiming like, 1108 00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:54,120 Speaker 2: no one's touching those guys, no one even wants them, 1109 00:56:54,320 --> 00:56:58,840 Speaker 2: no one's trading cash considerations for them. How are you 1110 00:56:58,960 --> 00:57:01,200 Speaker 2: not trying to shake this thing up calling up a 1111 00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:05,879 Speaker 2: random prospect like I even know that? Who am I thinking? 1112 00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:09,160 Speaker 2: I'm Florio Stevon Flourial he struggled in every single Big 1113 00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:12,520 Speaker 2: leaguxtent so far. I don't care. Can't be worse than 1114 00:57:12,520 --> 00:57:17,000 Speaker 2: Aaron Hicks. Try it, shit man, Andre Chapero, like he 1115 00:57:17,040 --> 00:57:19,240 Speaker 2: hits the shit out of the ball, Like, I don't 1116 00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:20,840 Speaker 2: know if he's gonna hit at the big league level. 1117 00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:23,560 Speaker 2: He might not fuck it. He's not gonna be worse 1118 00:57:23,600 --> 00:57:25,240 Speaker 2: than what you got right now. I do think it 1119 00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:29,000 Speaker 2: is literally the definition of insanity, Einstein's definition, what the 1120 00:57:29,080 --> 00:57:31,240 Speaker 2: Yankees are doing with this lineup. And I know it's early, 1121 00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:35,000 Speaker 2: but it's insane to be able to expect this lineup 1122 00:57:35,040 --> 00:57:37,720 Speaker 2: to magically do anything other than what it's doing right now, 1123 00:57:37,720 --> 00:57:40,040 Speaker 2: which is suck because the back half of it is 1124 00:57:40,080 --> 00:57:41,919 Speaker 2: worse than a lot of Triple A lineups I watch 1125 00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:43,160 Speaker 2: on a daily basis. 1126 00:57:43,520 --> 00:57:46,080 Speaker 1: I want to read you the lineup from that horrific 1127 00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:49,320 Speaker 1: loss where Domingo Horman basically threw an eight inning shut 1128 00:57:49,480 --> 00:57:52,240 Speaker 1: and they absolutely blew it in the ninth inning. So 1129 00:57:53,840 --> 00:57:58,080 Speaker 1: Anthony Volpi leading off, he's been better, but he's your 1130 00:57:58,160 --> 00:58:00,600 Speaker 1: leadoff hitter. I would love him to be the ninth 1131 00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:05,480 Speaker 1: hitter right now. Anthony Brizzo, great Labor Torres, Remember those 1132 00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:07,760 Speaker 1: five stolen bases I was talking about and how awesome 1133 00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:10,080 Speaker 1: it was. Has a stolen one since that was like 1134 00:58:10,080 --> 00:58:13,240 Speaker 1: in the first week of our podcast the season, DJ 1135 00:58:13,320 --> 00:58:16,600 Speaker 1: lem Mayhew, you know he's doing his job in two sixty, 1136 00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:20,040 Speaker 1: Like char Willie Calhoun is fucking horrible. 1137 00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:22,600 Speaker 2: Who's hitting fifth? He has to happen to ship for him? 1138 00:58:22,760 --> 00:58:24,400 Speaker 2: He has to have dir he has to. 1139 00:58:24,320 --> 00:58:28,680 Speaker 1: Have Dirt gets who pinship for him? Aaron Hicks also, 1140 00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:33,040 Speaker 1: Parrazza takes a lot of prospect. Guy, he's fucking horrible, kidding, 1141 00:58:33,080 --> 00:58:35,480 Speaker 1: He's not, He's not. He's he's just off ready. 1142 00:58:35,520 --> 00:58:37,760 Speaker 2: I guess he's not ready. So he's just off to 1143 00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:38,360 Speaker 2: a terrible start. 1144 00:58:38,360 --> 00:58:41,280 Speaker 1: He's hitting one eighty eight. Isaiah Kunor Fleffer plays center 1145 00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:44,800 Speaker 1: field and hits one eighty eight. He is so bad 1146 00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:47,320 Speaker 1: he has like a twenty WRC plus he's like eighty 1147 00:58:47,360 --> 00:58:52,320 Speaker 1: percent below the league averageator Oswalda Cabra terrible, Like after 1148 00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:54,720 Speaker 1: DJ Lem Mayhew, it's out out. 1149 00:58:54,520 --> 00:58:57,240 Speaker 2: Out, out out. 1150 00:58:56,240 --> 00:59:01,120 Speaker 1: And then even Volpi like does doesn't get on that much. 1151 00:59:01,960 --> 00:59:04,120 Speaker 1: And then you have Rizza win Kleeber like, well, how 1152 00:59:04,160 --> 00:59:05,400 Speaker 1: does this team score? 1153 00:59:05,840 --> 00:59:08,320 Speaker 2: Volpi should be in the nine hole right, Like if 1154 00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:10,400 Speaker 2: the Yankees were at full strength, and they were the Yankees. 1155 00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:11,680 Speaker 2: Volpey's in the nine hole, and you got one of 1156 00:59:11,720 --> 00:59:14,680 Speaker 2: the most dynamic nine hitters in Baseball's eventually will be 1157 00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:17,960 Speaker 2: your leadoff guy when he's and he's playing pretty good shortstop, 1158 00:59:18,320 --> 00:59:19,240 Speaker 2: he's stealing bags. 1159 00:59:19,280 --> 00:59:20,520 Speaker 1: It's a great nine hole, a. 1160 00:59:20,480 --> 00:59:22,760 Speaker 2: Great nine o hitter until he kind of settles in, 1161 00:59:22,840 --> 00:59:24,800 Speaker 2: and then you know, maybe next year that's your leadoff guy. 1162 00:59:25,080 --> 00:59:27,280 Speaker 2: I'll say, though, Jake Bowers, I'm glad they brought him up. 1163 00:59:27,440 --> 00:59:31,960 Speaker 2: He might help, probably not out. He should be playing 1164 00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:34,480 Speaker 2: more than any of those other guys like I or 1165 00:59:35,200 --> 00:59:37,440 Speaker 2: so He's gonna suck for a month and then I'm 1166 00:59:37,480 --> 00:59:38,640 Speaker 2: just gonna come back to it and be like, Jake 1167 00:59:38,720 --> 00:59:42,040 Speaker 2: Bowers has an eight w or C plus. Yeah, yeah, Well, 1168 00:59:41,720 --> 00:59:43,840 Speaker 2: it's fun times in New York. Man. I think they're 1169 00:59:43,880 --> 00:59:45,640 Speaker 2: lucky to be where they're at right now, I'll tell 1170 00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:47,040 Speaker 2: you that. But I still think they're gonna turn it 1171 00:59:47,040 --> 00:59:49,520 Speaker 2: around because then he gets standing back, hopefully soon, judge 1172 00:59:49,560 --> 00:59:50,440 Speaker 2: obviously not. 1173 00:59:50,560 --> 00:59:57,160 Speaker 1: Soon, like seven more weeks, and then like like Rodawn 1174 00:59:57,320 --> 00:59:58,160 Speaker 1: has another back. 1175 00:59:58,200 --> 01:00:00,640 Speaker 2: Thing. Like as far as I'm I'm still not even 1176 01:00:00,640 --> 01:00:02,920 Speaker 2: worried about the Yankees. I swear I'm not. I know 1177 01:00:03,040 --> 01:00:06,160 Speaker 2: you are, but I'm not, even though it's really ugly. 1178 01:00:06,520 --> 01:00:08,720 Speaker 1: And I'm a fan, and like I'm saying, I'm not 1179 01:00:08,760 --> 01:00:11,120 Speaker 1: worried about Mariners, and the Mariners fans are probably like, 1180 01:00:11,240 --> 01:00:12,240 Speaker 1: I'm so worried. 1181 01:00:12,600 --> 01:00:13,640 Speaker 2: Fans are probably like what the fuck? 1182 01:00:13,920 --> 01:00:16,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, like they're they're twelve and sixteen. The Yankees are 1183 01:00:16,400 --> 01:00:20,080 Speaker 1: fifteen and fifteen. So like, I get it. I'm overreacting, 1184 01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:20,600 Speaker 1: I know. 1185 01:00:20,800 --> 01:00:23,240 Speaker 2: But like Sime, if I stare that lineup in the 1186 01:00:23,240 --> 01:00:25,160 Speaker 2: face every day, i'd overreact to I don't even think 1187 01:00:25,160 --> 01:00:27,720 Speaker 2: it's a total overreaction. I just think that the cram 1188 01:00:27,760 --> 01:00:28,840 Speaker 2: will rise at the top here. 1189 01:00:29,360 --> 01:00:34,600 Speaker 1: Okay, So I'm redoing the uh the against righties. Okay, 1190 01:00:34,680 --> 01:00:39,320 Speaker 1: I was wrong in the last two weeks. They don't 1191 01:00:39,320 --> 01:00:41,600 Speaker 1: have an eight WRC plus and I might have done 1192 01:00:41,600 --> 01:00:44,240 Speaker 1: it in the last week, but in the last two 1193 01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:50,560 Speaker 1: weeks fifty four WRC plus still last last Let's do 1194 01:00:50,600 --> 01:00:52,480 Speaker 1: it in the last week, because that's might have been 1195 01:00:52,560 --> 01:00:55,240 Speaker 1: what I was looking at. So in the last week 1196 01:00:55,720 --> 01:01:00,600 Speaker 1: against right handed pitchers, the New York Yankees a sixty 1197 01:01:00,720 --> 01:01:02,880 Speaker 1: WRC plus. So I don't even know where I saw eight. 1198 01:01:03,360 --> 01:01:05,960 Speaker 2: But that's last last. 1199 01:01:06,240 --> 01:01:08,919 Speaker 1: They are the worst offense against righty's in the last 1200 01:01:08,920 --> 01:01:10,360 Speaker 1: two weeks and the last week. 1201 01:01:10,360 --> 01:01:12,600 Speaker 2: The worst fair. 1202 01:01:13,920 --> 01:01:18,680 Speaker 1: All right, next question, Okay, this is a more fun one. 1203 01:01:18,720 --> 01:01:21,200 Speaker 1: This will make me happier. This is a fun conversation. 1204 01:01:21,920 --> 01:01:25,120 Speaker 1: What is up with the Orioles call up chicken game 1205 01:01:26,200 --> 01:01:28,960 Speaker 1: Jorge Mateo trade to a contender that needs an infielder? 1206 01:01:29,040 --> 01:01:31,520 Speaker 1: Question mark allows them to call up guys and get 1207 01:01:31,520 --> 01:01:34,360 Speaker 1: a good return for Mateo and still have leftovers to 1208 01:01:34,440 --> 01:01:38,680 Speaker 1: trade for an established pitcher. In parentheses, Lord, I can't 1209 01:01:38,760 --> 01:01:42,560 Speaker 1: keep watching Deed Kraber. God bless him. As from at 1210 01:01:42,840 --> 01:01:47,480 Speaker 1: ben wic K i z e R on Instagram. 1211 01:01:47,520 --> 01:01:51,040 Speaker 2: This is our last question. I love I love the 1212 01:01:51,120 --> 01:01:54,680 Speaker 2: God bless him like like, it's not personal. I just 1213 01:01:54,760 --> 01:01:59,280 Speaker 2: can't watch you pitch anymore. It's hard, but I love that. 1214 01:01:59,440 --> 01:02:00,080 Speaker 2: I love that. 1215 01:02:00,840 --> 01:02:05,120 Speaker 1: So Horne Mateo could possibly be traded to a contender. Now, 1216 01:02:05,200 --> 01:02:07,640 Speaker 1: I'm sure there's a there's a bucket of Orioles fans 1217 01:02:07,640 --> 01:02:10,040 Speaker 1: to be like, we cannot trade this man. He's like 1218 01:02:10,120 --> 01:02:13,240 Speaker 1: our best player. I mean Adley Ruchmand obviously, but he 1219 01:02:13,320 --> 01:02:16,160 Speaker 1: has been maybe the best shortstop in Major League Baseball 1220 01:02:16,240 --> 01:02:18,800 Speaker 1: up to this point. But then I know there's an 1221 01:02:18,880 --> 01:02:22,600 Speaker 1: other set of Orioles fans and maybe people looking in 1222 01:02:22,640 --> 01:02:26,800 Speaker 1: from the outside saying cash in. Now, a lot of 1223 01:02:27,120 --> 01:02:30,400 Speaker 1: big time teams need a middle infielder, most notably the 1224 01:02:30,400 --> 01:02:33,480 Speaker 1: Los Angeles Dodgers, and can give you a lot of 1225 01:02:33,560 --> 01:02:37,600 Speaker 1: pitchers in return. Because I know you're kind of grimaced 1226 01:02:37,960 --> 01:02:41,040 Speaker 1: and you're like, we can't trade Horne Mateo from the Orioles, 1227 01:02:41,520 --> 01:02:45,680 Speaker 1: But how many young infield prospects do they have? Like 1228 01:02:45,720 --> 01:02:50,320 Speaker 1: this is such a surplus of young, exciting players, and 1229 01:02:50,360 --> 01:02:53,400 Speaker 1: now you can make the argument, well, this is one 1230 01:02:53,480 --> 01:02:56,360 Speaker 1: of them, and he's amazing, so why would you deal him? 1231 01:02:56,360 --> 01:02:59,959 Speaker 1: Why not deal a prospect that hasn't proven anything yet 1232 01:03:00,640 --> 01:03:03,960 Speaker 1: who still has that shining light right that can be 1233 01:03:04,080 --> 01:03:06,680 Speaker 1: amazing and that could get you something like a major 1234 01:03:06,760 --> 01:03:07,640 Speaker 1: league ready player. 1235 01:03:07,880 --> 01:03:08,120 Speaker 2: Yep. 1236 01:03:08,400 --> 01:03:10,400 Speaker 1: So there's two sides of the coin. I'm interested to 1237 01:03:10,440 --> 01:03:11,400 Speaker 1: see what your side is. 1238 01:03:11,680 --> 01:03:15,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, So, I mean, I'm kind of buying this Mateo breakout. 1239 01:03:15,160 --> 01:03:18,000 Speaker 2: I really, this is a guy that had the soft 1240 01:03:18,040 --> 01:03:21,480 Speaker 2: breakout last year and in that year three f four 1241 01:03:22,400 --> 01:03:24,760 Speaker 2: thirty five bags. We talk about guys that benefit from 1242 01:03:24,760 --> 01:03:27,320 Speaker 2: the new rules, like Mateo. Definitely guy that even if 1243 01:03:27,360 --> 01:03:29,320 Speaker 2: he was putting up the same numbers as last year, 1244 01:03:29,520 --> 01:03:31,800 Speaker 2: would have been improved because of the new rules in 1245 01:03:31,840 --> 01:03:34,640 Speaker 2: the stolen bases and limited a shift, limitations a shift 1246 01:03:34,680 --> 01:03:37,720 Speaker 2: with the defensive prowess that he has, but all of 1247 01:03:37,720 --> 01:03:41,440 Speaker 2: the offensive metrics. You're looking at his end zone wift rate, 1248 01:03:41,480 --> 01:03:44,560 Speaker 2: so his own contact rate has jumped by about seven percent. 1249 01:03:44,640 --> 01:03:46,680 Speaker 2: That is a one of the bigger year over year changes. 1250 01:03:46,720 --> 01:03:49,120 Speaker 2: You're going to see. His swinging strike rate has dropped 1251 01:03:49,120 --> 01:03:51,560 Speaker 2: by five percent, one of the bigger year over year changes. 1252 01:03:51,560 --> 01:03:53,560 Speaker 2: You're going to see. His chase rate has dropped by 1253 01:03:53,560 --> 01:03:56,240 Speaker 2: ten percent. Again, I'll say it again, one of the 1254 01:03:56,280 --> 01:03:58,760 Speaker 2: biggest year over year changes. You're going to see. Walk 1255 01:03:58,840 --> 01:04:02,000 Speaker 2: rate up two percent, strike out right down thirteen percent. 1256 01:04:02,720 --> 01:04:05,120 Speaker 2: I'm in, like, I'm I'm buying it. This guy hits 1257 01:04:05,120 --> 01:04:07,800 Speaker 2: the ball hard. I don't think people realize that it 1258 01:04:07,880 --> 01:04:10,680 Speaker 2: was the approach and mostly the approach and the swing 1259 01:04:10,680 --> 01:04:12,400 Speaker 2: and miss that kind of overlap with each other that 1260 01:04:12,480 --> 01:04:14,960 Speaker 2: was holding him back. I don't think you changed this. 1261 01:04:15,480 --> 01:04:17,440 Speaker 2: I think like, is he gonna hit three fifty? Probably not, 1262 01:04:17,800 --> 01:04:19,560 Speaker 2: but this guy's gonna be good. Like this is a 1263 01:04:19,600 --> 01:04:22,040 Speaker 2: really good piece. I don't know why they sent down 1264 01:04:22,120 --> 01:04:24,360 Speaker 2: Joey Ortiz, I guess he was really just up there 1265 01:04:24,400 --> 01:04:27,240 Speaker 2: to fill in, which fucking sucks. Like Adam Frazier, we 1266 01:04:27,320 --> 01:04:30,000 Speaker 2: set it from day one. Get that dude the fuck 1267 01:04:30,040 --> 01:04:32,439 Speaker 2: out of town. Like he might be a great guy, 1268 01:04:32,560 --> 01:04:34,560 Speaker 2: but like, man, it's pissing me off because we got 1269 01:04:34,600 --> 01:04:37,320 Speaker 2: exciting players that have an opportunity to help the Orioles 1270 01:04:37,400 --> 01:04:40,920 Speaker 2: and then are just better. I would trade from the 1271 01:04:40,920 --> 01:04:44,080 Speaker 2: surplus of prospects because I mean, what what Matteo? And 1272 01:04:44,080 --> 01:04:46,120 Speaker 2: I'm curious what you think, like what Mateo's doing now, 1273 01:04:46,160 --> 01:04:48,640 Speaker 2: Like I think this is something that he could he 1274 01:04:48,680 --> 01:04:50,600 Speaker 2: could do. I think he's a really good player, especially 1275 01:04:50,640 --> 01:04:53,960 Speaker 2: in today's game, with the defense, with the speed. You 1276 01:04:54,000 --> 01:04:59,120 Speaker 2: could trade a couple of Joey Ortiz, Jordan Westburg, Connor Norby. 1277 01:04:59,160 --> 01:05:01,120 Speaker 2: I mean we're just talking about Dylan Cease thing. You 1278 01:05:01,120 --> 01:05:03,960 Speaker 2: could package several of those guys with sotours who just 1279 01:05:04,000 --> 01:05:06,280 Speaker 2: got recalled, like they're just bringing them up one at 1280 01:05:06,280 --> 01:05:07,960 Speaker 2: a time to plug in for a day and then 1281 01:05:07,960 --> 01:05:10,200 Speaker 2: sending them back down like they've got the Bignes the 1282 01:05:10,200 --> 01:05:14,360 Speaker 2: best NFL practice squad out there. It's annoying. I get it, 1283 01:05:14,480 --> 01:05:16,960 Speaker 2: Like you want to get them the consistent at bat, 1284 01:05:17,040 --> 01:05:18,720 Speaker 2: so it's good that they're getting those in triple instead 1285 01:05:18,720 --> 01:05:20,680 Speaker 2: of just sitting on the bench. But like, all of 1286 01:05:20,720 --> 01:05:23,520 Speaker 2: those guys are big league ready. Just about every single 1287 01:05:23,520 --> 01:05:25,960 Speaker 2: one of them are big league ready. And I'm not 1288 01:05:26,040 --> 01:05:28,560 Speaker 2: trading you know, the most valuable guy that for me 1289 01:05:28,640 --> 01:05:30,960 Speaker 2: this year besides Rushman and Mateo, because I think the 1290 01:05:30,960 --> 01:05:32,760 Speaker 2: Orioles have their sights on the playoffs and they're trying 1291 01:05:32,760 --> 01:05:36,160 Speaker 2: to build something here. Trade Westburg, trade one or two 1292 01:05:36,160 --> 01:05:39,200 Speaker 2: of those guys, or just cut Baits if you can 1293 01:05:39,320 --> 01:05:42,120 Speaker 2: dump Fraser's contract, because like, I don't know why they 1294 01:05:42,120 --> 01:05:43,640 Speaker 2: did it, and I think they're starting to realize now 1295 01:05:43,640 --> 01:05:47,040 Speaker 2: with the leap of Matteo that they really don't need Fraser. 1296 01:05:48,000 --> 01:05:52,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think this Oriols team is good. Like I 1297 01:05:52,240 --> 01:05:55,960 Speaker 1: think their bullpen is very solid. I think they're starting 1298 01:05:56,080 --> 01:06:00,800 Speaker 1: rotation obviously has its holes, but you see guys who 1299 01:06:00,800 --> 01:06:06,360 Speaker 1: are giving you good starts, Tyler Wells, Kyle Bradish and 1300 01:06:06,400 --> 01:06:07,520 Speaker 1: Grayson Rodriguez. 1301 01:06:07,680 --> 01:06:09,840 Speaker 2: Rodriguez is making the leap man. 1302 01:06:09,840 --> 01:06:12,720 Speaker 1: Making the leap, as of course he is, because he's 1303 01:06:12,760 --> 01:06:15,960 Speaker 1: a stud and he's a freak, and he throws ninety 1304 01:06:16,040 --> 01:06:19,680 Speaker 1: seven with a see you later changeup and other plus 1305 01:06:19,680 --> 01:06:24,120 Speaker 1: pitches like the slider. Those three are pitchers. Like those 1306 01:06:24,160 --> 01:06:26,720 Speaker 1: three you can build around, but you have two more 1307 01:06:26,720 --> 01:06:30,560 Speaker 1: spots that you need to fill. And yes, Jorge Matteo, 1308 01:06:30,960 --> 01:06:34,600 Speaker 1: a part of me says this is a perfect time 1309 01:06:34,640 --> 01:06:38,280 Speaker 1: to cash in on him because he's unbelievable right now. 1310 01:06:38,880 --> 01:06:41,920 Speaker 1: But maybe he might just be unbelievable. Yeah, like maybe 1311 01:06:41,960 --> 01:06:45,000 Speaker 1: he might be a perfect player for the new rules, 1312 01:06:45,320 --> 01:06:48,520 Speaker 1: bigger bases, no more shift, hitting the ball on the ground, 1313 01:06:48,600 --> 01:06:51,000 Speaker 1: hitting it hard, finding the hole and playing good defense. 1314 01:06:51,320 --> 01:06:54,000 Speaker 1: Like that might just be what he is former Yankee. 1315 01:06:54,000 --> 01:06:58,000 Speaker 1: By the way, thanks a lot, Hoory Matteo stud All right, 1316 01:06:58,920 --> 01:07:01,000 Speaker 1: I don't think you trade him because you have all 1317 01:07:01,040 --> 01:07:03,200 Speaker 1: these guys and you all you hope they can be 1318 01:07:04,040 --> 01:07:07,600 Speaker 1: Orge Mateo. That's the goal, Like you hope they can 1319 01:07:07,640 --> 01:07:10,280 Speaker 1: all be what hoorge Mateo is right now, And if 1320 01:07:10,480 --> 01:07:14,320 Speaker 1: you're playing for right now, trade those guys who the 1321 01:07:14,360 --> 01:07:17,400 Speaker 1: Orioles don't even feel can take playing time over Adam Fraser. 1322 01:07:17,400 --> 01:07:19,640 Speaker 1: Now do we agree with them? Absolutely not. Is that 1323 01:07:19,720 --> 01:07:21,760 Speaker 1: the reality of the situation as we sit here today, 1324 01:07:21,760 --> 01:07:26,160 Speaker 1: oors fans? Yes, So if I'm an Orioles fan, I 1325 01:07:26,320 --> 01:07:31,360 Speaker 1: want us to trade from our surplus of infield prospects 1326 01:07:31,440 --> 01:07:35,120 Speaker 1: or outfield prospects in order to get those starting pitchers 1327 01:07:35,760 --> 01:07:39,520 Speaker 1: or get a big time bat in the outfield, because 1328 01:07:39,520 --> 01:07:42,720 Speaker 1: they have good outfielders, but a lot of them are 1329 01:07:42,920 --> 01:07:45,520 Speaker 1: you know, defensive guys, and like they do hit like 1330 01:07:45,560 --> 01:07:48,160 Speaker 1: Austin Hayes I know is hitting. Cedric Mullins I know 1331 01:07:48,320 --> 01:07:51,160 Speaker 1: is good. But you could get another big bopper, Like 1332 01:07:51,200 --> 01:07:53,600 Speaker 1: it's not just in the infield, or excuse me, it's 1333 01:07:53,640 --> 01:07:55,760 Speaker 1: not just in the starting rotation, Like you could go 1334 01:07:55,800 --> 01:07:58,680 Speaker 1: get another big time bat too, So I wouldn't limit 1335 01:07:58,760 --> 01:08:01,880 Speaker 1: yourself to just pitching, and you have all the assets 1336 01:08:01,920 --> 01:08:04,280 Speaker 1: to do it, Like they could easily make a package 1337 01:08:04,280 --> 01:08:06,960 Speaker 1: for Dylan Ceese and not really feel it and then 1338 01:08:07,120 --> 01:08:10,480 Speaker 1: also get a big time bat while getting Dylan Ceese. 1339 01:08:10,560 --> 01:08:12,360 Speaker 1: The reason why we don't often put them in there 1340 01:08:12,720 --> 01:08:14,200 Speaker 1: is because they don't fucking do it. 1341 01:08:14,640 --> 01:08:15,600 Speaker 2: They just don't do it. 1342 01:08:16,160 --> 01:08:18,519 Speaker 1: Like we keep telling, we keep talking about it. I'm 1343 01:08:18,560 --> 01:08:19,880 Speaker 1: just wasting my breath over here. 1344 01:08:20,080 --> 01:08:26,479 Speaker 2: It's actually exhausting, exhausting Ramonaius, would you trade him? Yes? 1345 01:08:27,240 --> 01:08:29,880 Speaker 2: So that's a guy that has value. That's that's a 1346 01:08:30,400 --> 01:08:33,400 Speaker 2: one twenty four WRC plus he's played third base for them, 1347 01:08:33,439 --> 01:08:35,439 Speaker 2: you can play second, you can move them all over 1348 01:08:35,479 --> 01:08:38,479 Speaker 2: a little bit. You have Gunner and he's under control 1349 01:08:38,560 --> 01:08:41,439 Speaker 2: until twenty twenty seven, So yeah, you get a repeat 1350 01:08:41,920 --> 01:08:45,080 Speaker 2: as valuable as Matteo right now, but you package him 1351 01:08:45,439 --> 01:08:48,280 Speaker 2: with a couple other prospects, you can get a lot 1352 01:08:48,320 --> 01:08:50,800 Speaker 2: of good players. So that's what I would do. I 1353 01:08:50,800 --> 01:08:54,519 Speaker 2: wouldn't touch Mateo, especially when you have the context of 1354 01:08:54,560 --> 01:08:57,559 Speaker 2: the chase rates his own contact, Like, the underlying metrics 1355 01:08:57,600 --> 01:09:01,360 Speaker 2: look really good. I'm buying it. So if i'm them, 1356 01:09:01,400 --> 01:09:04,040 Speaker 2: I'm looking to make that move with Arius and then 1357 01:09:04,080 --> 01:09:06,200 Speaker 2: a couple of those prospects, and you can get a 1358 01:09:06,240 --> 01:09:09,120 Speaker 2: lot of good players with that. You can get plenty 1359 01:09:09,240 --> 01:09:11,800 Speaker 2: of good players. The craziest part is they could just 1360 01:09:11,840 --> 01:09:14,280 Speaker 2: swap a mid level prospect in a month or two 1361 01:09:14,560 --> 01:09:17,200 Speaker 2: for gi Alito, and that probably upgrades the back end 1362 01:09:17,240 --> 01:09:19,880 Speaker 2: of their rotation. Like I would just love for them 1363 01:09:19,880 --> 01:09:22,559 Speaker 2: to do something they're gonna get John means back. So 1364 01:09:22,680 --> 01:09:24,960 Speaker 2: I would rather not go for the like three or 1365 01:09:25,000 --> 01:09:28,720 Speaker 2: four type starter. Go get a stud, Go get somebody impactful, 1366 01:09:28,920 --> 01:09:30,840 Speaker 2: and I think they will like I think that, I 1367 01:09:30,920 --> 01:09:33,080 Speaker 2: really do think that this is finally gonna be the 1368 01:09:33,160 --> 01:09:36,160 Speaker 2: year if they're seeing how they're doing. They're they're hanging 1369 01:09:36,200 --> 01:09:38,679 Speaker 2: around the top of the division, and they're really dealing 1370 01:09:38,680 --> 01:09:41,000 Speaker 2: with the crunch. Now they're gonna have a forty man crunch. 1371 01:09:41,200 --> 01:09:43,519 Speaker 2: They already have the active roster crunch. They're having to 1372 01:09:43,520 --> 01:09:46,639 Speaker 2: send guys back and forth all the time. I hope 1373 01:09:46,680 --> 01:09:49,479 Speaker 2: they finally do it. But to answer the question, only 1374 01:09:49,520 --> 01:09:53,400 Speaker 2: guy from this active team that I'm trading in the 1375 01:09:53,439 --> 01:09:55,800 Speaker 2: infield at least is Arius and then from the team 1376 01:09:55,800 --> 01:09:58,000 Speaker 2: in general, Like you talked about being able to upgrade, 1377 01:09:58,120 --> 01:10:01,439 Speaker 2: how about moving on from Santander? Santander is you know 1378 01:10:01,479 --> 01:10:04,599 Speaker 2: you got one more year of control, but he's been 1379 01:10:04,640 --> 01:10:07,400 Speaker 2: brutal And yeah, again you can find a corner outfielder 1380 01:10:07,439 --> 01:10:10,000 Speaker 2: who can make a big difference as well. So that's 1381 01:10:10,080 --> 01:10:12,120 Speaker 2: that's a spot where they could upgrade. Or how much 1382 01:10:12,200 --> 01:10:15,000 Speaker 2: is playing Cows Towers more instead of Santander? Like at 1383 01:10:15,000 --> 01:10:17,040 Speaker 2: what point do we look at Santander and is negative 1384 01:10:17,040 --> 01:10:20,200 Speaker 2: point three F four and seventy seven WRC plus and say, hey, 1385 01:10:20,400 --> 01:10:22,320 Speaker 2: I think maybe we can upgrade over this right now? 1386 01:10:22,360 --> 01:10:24,040 Speaker 2: I know he had a decent year last year, thirty 1387 01:10:24,040 --> 01:10:28,240 Speaker 2: three homers, but doesn't get on base pretty aggressive. I 1388 01:10:28,240 --> 01:10:30,080 Speaker 2: think they could upgrade in a lot of different ways, 1389 01:10:30,120 --> 01:10:31,000 Speaker 2: and they're already. 1390 01:10:30,720 --> 01:10:33,320 Speaker 1: Good and that I'll do it for this episode of 1391 01:10:33,360 --> 01:10:34,120 Speaker 1: Just Baseball Show. 1392 01:10:34,160 --> 01:10:36,439 Speaker 2: That was the mail bag again. 1393 01:10:37,120 --> 01:10:39,800 Speaker 1: We really want to thank you guys for leaving all 1394 01:10:39,840 --> 01:10:43,280 Speaker 1: those questions on social We're getting more and more questions 1395 01:10:43,600 --> 01:10:45,479 Speaker 1: every single time we post. We're so glad that you 1396 01:10:45,520 --> 01:10:49,920 Speaker 1: guys enjoy these episodes. And if you have enjoyed this episode, 1397 01:10:50,000 --> 01:10:53,439 Speaker 1: we'd greatly appreciate you rating and review five stars on 1398 01:10:53,600 --> 01:10:57,240 Speaker 1: Apple Podcasts or on Spotify. 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