1 00:00:02,320 --> 00:00:03,520 Speaker 1: Well, we have a huge show. 2 00:00:03,640 --> 00:00:07,760 Speaker 2: We have Supreme Court stuff previews with Josh Hammer, That 3 00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:12,360 Speaker 2: Texas Children's hospital scandal is not going away? Are Americans 4 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 2: actually ready for mass deportations? All that and more coming up, 5 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 2: and I'm right, okay, So what do we have this week? Obviously, 6 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 2: the Trump Biden debate is coming. It's on CNN. As 7 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:33,280 Speaker 2: you know, I'm not going to spend every week waking 8 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 2: moment talking about Trump Biden and the debates. 9 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:37,919 Speaker 1: We agreed to a. 10 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:42,280 Speaker 2: Debate on CNN, hosted by Trump's mortal enemies and put 11 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 2: on by the network that thinks Donald Trump's the Antichrist. 12 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:46,240 Speaker 1: We'll see. 13 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 2: We'll do a big debate preview on that thing tomorrow. 14 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:51,159 Speaker 2: Not what I would have accepted, but it is what 15 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:53,960 Speaker 2: it is. Also, we're about to get the Supreme Court 16 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 2: cases with Josh Hammer before we get to those Julian 17 00:00:56,920 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 2: Assange people may remember then if you're a hardcore politico, 18 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 2: you obviously know who Julian Assange is. But he just 19 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 2: got sprung from prison, struck a deal with the Dojy. 20 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 2: Who is this guy? What's this deal about? Let's talk 21 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 2: about a lot of things with my buddy Josh Hammer, 22 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 2: joining me now my friend host of America on Trial, 23 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 2: which I highly recommend America on Trial. 24 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 1: With Josh Hammer. 25 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 2: Okay, Josh for those who don't nerd out on politics 26 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:25,679 Speaker 2: the way you and I do. 27 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:27,559 Speaker 1: Julian Assang who is this guy. 28 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 3: He's the founder of Wiki Leaks. Julian Soanje is an 29 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 3: Australian national. Jesse is the founder of Wiki Leaku's, which 30 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:38,119 Speaker 3: you know, ostensibly hold itself out as committed to civil 31 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:43,320 Speaker 3: liberties and public transparency. They consider themselves crusaders for transparency. 32 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 3: You know, you can probably tell by the way that 33 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:47,319 Speaker 3: I am phrasing this that I am not necessarily the 34 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 3: biggest fan of Juliana Sangje and Bradley Manning or Chelsea Manning, 35 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 3: whatever we're calling that particular individual these days. So Wiki 36 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 3: League's going back to twenty ten, which was still kind 37 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 3: of in the height of the Iraq War at that time. 38 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 3: Wiki Leaks, via Bradley Manning and then Juliana san did 39 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:08,680 Speaker 3: the dirty work, disseminated a lot of US government secrets 40 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 3: when it came to Iraq and Afghanistan that had the 41 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 3: tangible effect of leaking sensitive military information to Al Qaeda. 42 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:18,960 Speaker 3: Among America's other existential jihadist enemies putting our troops in 43 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:21,079 Speaker 3: severe harms way, and he's. 44 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:22,919 Speaker 4: Been a very controversial figure ever since then. 45 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:25,919 Speaker 3: He actually leaked a lot of anti Hillary Clinton information 46 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:28,639 Speaker 3: as well in twenty sixteen Jesse, which has actually led 47 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:31,800 Speaker 3: a lot of very pro Trump people to embrace Julia 48 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:34,520 Speaker 3: no soannge as well because Trump and I think some 49 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 3: big Trump supporters probably think that Julius Soane aided his 50 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:40,519 Speaker 3: twenty sixteen campaign, and they may actually be right about that. 51 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 3: From my perspective, it doesn't make him anything less of 52 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 3: a threat, but that is who he is basically, and 53 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:48,359 Speaker 3: he's been in and out of the legal system ever 54 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 3: since then. He spent five years in British prison and 55 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:53,679 Speaker 3: there was a long standing effort to extrade him to 56 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 3: the United States to face justice, and then we have 57 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 3: this plead deal that was reached just yesterday. 58 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 2: Okay, so Josh, forgive me if I'm wrong, but I'm 59 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 2: completely confused here. He's Australian, he leaked American secrets, he 60 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:10,359 Speaker 2: was in a British prison, yet he's somehow struck a 61 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:13,239 Speaker 2: deal to get out of a British prison with America's 62 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 2: doj Could you please explain what's going on here with 63 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 2: the jurisdictions, because I'm completely lost. 64 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 3: So he was he essentially sought asylum. He sought asylum 65 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 3: at various foreign embassies in London. I mean he was 66 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 3: not actually at the British embassy. He's been kind of 67 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 3: in and out of various foreign embassies there in London. 68 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 3: The British, who are America's close allies, had him confined 69 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 3: in a British prison there. But the United States has 70 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 3: fundamentally sought to charge him with violations of the Espionajack 71 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 3: Bradley Manning. Of course, again, Chelsea whatever, Bradley Manning is 72 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 3: a US citizen who can actually be charged with the 73 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 3: ESPIONA Jacks. 74 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 4: By the way, the espionage Jack. 75 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 3: Jesse, just for the viewers edification has happens to be 76 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 3: the exact same statute that Jack Smith, the Special Counsel, 77 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 3: is prosecuting Donald Trump for in the class by documents 78 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 3: case in mar A Lago of says a lot as 79 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 3: to how the Biden DOJ views Donald Trump. They literally 80 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 3: view him as in the same category as Juliana Sange 81 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 3: and Bradley Manning. 82 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 4: There. 83 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 3: But there's been this long standing effort to get Julia 84 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 3: Sange to face justice, and then you have this plead 85 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 3: deal that's been reached. Julia Soane flew to the Marianna 86 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:20,840 Speaker 3: wherever the hat that island chain is the US territory 87 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 3: in the Pacific that I can't apparently pronounce right now, 88 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 3: he's there to take his plead deal and he'll probably 89 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 3: be back home in Australia sooner rather than later. 90 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:32,840 Speaker 2: Okay, why now, that's my last question on this. We 91 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:35,360 Speaker 2: got to talk supreme corporate Why now? Why would the 92 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 2: Biden DOJ cut a deal with Julian Assange? Everyone knows 93 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 2: this is a political DJ. What's Biden get out of 94 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 2: Spring and the guy who torpedoed Hillary? 95 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 3: Well, I'll tell you exactly what my thought is on this, 96 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:50,159 Speaker 3: and I do think that it is a transparently political move. 97 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:53,359 Speaker 3: So Donald Trump has been talking a lot about pardoning 98 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 3: Julian Assange again, partially because Donald Trump feels, perhaps with 99 00:04:57,720 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 3: some good reason, that Julina soannge his twenty sixteen campaign again. 100 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 3: I personally would rather not see him pardon. I think 101 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 3: that he has done far more harm than good. But 102 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 3: your mileage may vary as to how you view him 103 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 3: as an individual. But especially Jesse, A lot of younger voters, 104 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:16,480 Speaker 3: millennial gen Z activists. These are the people that typically 105 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 3: tend to be more skeptical of foreign intervention overseas. They 106 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 3: tend to be a little more civil libertarian when it 107 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:25,360 Speaker 3: comes to these particular issues there, and those are a 108 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:28,040 Speaker 3: lot of the voters who have been peeling away from 109 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:30,600 Speaker 3: Joe Biden to Donald Trump. Donald Trump is doing a 110 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 3: lot better with millennial and gen Z voters right now 111 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 3: than any Republican in recent memory has done so. 112 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:35,920 Speaker 4: Jesse. 113 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:38,720 Speaker 3: That is the lens through which I view this particular 114 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:41,720 Speaker 3: plea deal. I think the Biden and Harris campaign is 115 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 3: trying to stop the bleeding when it comes to younger 116 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 3: voters in particular. 117 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 2: Okay, all right, let's shift gears in Top Supreme Court 118 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 2: this week. Obviously, the big fatty that everyone's waiting for, 119 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:56,600 Speaker 2: the big fat decision is the Trump immunity decision. 120 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 1: Is he immune? 121 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 2: Is he not immune? Is he halfway? What do we 122 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 2: expect him here? 123 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:02,719 Speaker 1: Yeah? 124 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:05,279 Speaker 3: I think halfway immune is basically the answer here. So look, 125 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 3: I mean, a full victory for Donald Trump means he's 126 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:11,279 Speaker 3: fully immune, and that every president's after you are the president, 127 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:13,919 Speaker 3: you are fully immune from future criminal prosecution. On the 128 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:18,159 Speaker 3: other hand, the full Jack Smith answer would be that 129 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 3: every president is not immune and can therefore be prosecuted 130 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:24,599 Speaker 3: for essentially everything there. But you know, most lawyers that 131 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:28,840 Speaker 3: I have spoken with, Jesse, and including myself, we tend 132 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 3: to all agree that they are going to reject both 133 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 3: of those answers and essentially give us a middle ground opinion. 134 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:39,720 Speaker 3: Whereby some core Article two constitutional presidential action, So the 135 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:41,839 Speaker 3: kind of things that the commander in chief does when 136 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 3: engaged in war, foreign policy decisions, when to strike a 137 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:49,159 Speaker 3: militant there, stuff like that that implicates a core Article 138 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 3: two constitutional function, you can't then prosecute those underlying actions 139 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:56,719 Speaker 3: after he is out of the White House. So, for example, 140 00:06:56,880 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 3: when Barack Obama took out anwar al Alaki, the al 141 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 3: Qaeda operative, who is nonetheless a US citizen in twenty eleven, 142 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:06,719 Speaker 3: you can then prosecute Barack Obama after he's president for 143 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 3: that because this was a fundamental commander in chief clause 144 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 3: military constitutional act. On the other hand, Jesse, let's say 145 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 3: that you find out your wife is sleeping with someone. 146 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 3: You hire a hit man on the internet to go 147 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 3: kill the guy your wife is shacking up with that's 148 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 3: probably not a core constitutional functions. Maybe you can be 149 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:25,679 Speaker 3: prosecuted after your president for homicide or murder or something 150 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 3: like that. So that's basically what they're going to say. 151 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 3: Then that's going to get kicked down to the lower 152 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 3: court to apply that to the actual facts of this case. 153 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 3: It's all going to have the cumulative effect of taking 154 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 3: a lot of time because then let's play that out 155 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:39,680 Speaker 3: a little further. Even if the trial court judge then 156 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 3: applies that in a way that Donald Trump's lawyers don't like, 157 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:44,679 Speaker 3: he can then appeal that back to the d C Circuit. 158 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 4: So it's going to take a long time, honestly. 159 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 2: Okay, So we're not going to get some final grand 160 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 2: finale decision like we want here. 161 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 1: It's going to go back to this court in that's court. 162 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 2: Okay, tell me something that I'm actually more interested in 163 00:07:57,920 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 2: the January sixth Political Prisoner. Does this decision have some 164 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 2: implications for getting these poor SAPs out. 165 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 1: Of the goulag? 166 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, it has massive ramifications for the j sixers who've 167 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 3: been prosecuted under this charge, as well as Donald Trump himself. 168 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 3: Because two of the four charges that Jack Smith has 169 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 3: brought against Donald Trump in Washington, d C. Involved this 170 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 3: exact same underlying statute. So this is an interesting case 171 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 3: legally because it is actually just a very straightforward statutory 172 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 3: interpretation question. 173 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 4: It's not a constitutional question at all. 174 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 3: We're not talking here about Article one, Article two, first segment, 175 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 3: and it's literally just a straight up interpretation of the 176 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:40,320 Speaker 3: Sarbanes Oxley Act, which is commonly known as Starbox and 177 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 3: policy Wonk circles from two thousand and two is in 178 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:46,679 Speaker 3: the aftermath of the Enron accounting scandal, they're basically having 179 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:52,319 Speaker 3: to definitively interpret the meaning of obstruction in the context 180 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:54,959 Speaker 3: of a congressional proceeding. It's very kind of in the 181 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 3: weeds loyally debate there. Because it's so kind of loyally 182 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 3: in the weeds, it's there, Jesse, It's hard for me 183 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:03,559 Speaker 3: to make a firm prediction one way or the other. 184 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 3: It's going to come down to a genuine disagreement as 185 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:09,680 Speaker 3: to statutory interpretation principles, how you discern the meaning of words. 186 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:12,560 Speaker 3: I am inclined to think that the prosecutors are being 187 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 3: over zealous and erroneously applying this particular statue when it 188 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 3: comes to the j sixers because the basic language of 189 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 3: the statue does not meet the actual offenses with which 190 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 3: they are being charged. I'm cautiously optimistic that will come 191 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 3: out the right way for them, but again, it's difficult 192 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:28,439 Speaker 3: for me to make a firm prediction one way or 193 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 3: the other. I certainly am hoping that the Justice rule 194 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:33,319 Speaker 3: as I think they should, which would have the practical 195 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:36,599 Speaker 3: effect of essentially nullifying a lot of these J six prosecutions. 196 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 1: I hope. 197 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 2: So all right, finally, Josh, there's a big tech big 198 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:43,679 Speaker 2: tech cases are coming down a lot of people. 199 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 1: This goes way beyond them, not you. What's what are these? 200 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 1: What are the implications? 201 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 4: Yeah? Huge cases. So I care a lot about this issue, Jesse. 202 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:56,200 Speaker 3: I'm senior counsel of the Internet Accountability Project, which exists 203 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 3: to kind of rein in our big tech oliguard. It's 204 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:00,959 Speaker 3: an issue have been very outspoken on over years. There 205 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:03,720 Speaker 3: are multiple big tech cases. The Court has not decided. 206 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:05,959 Speaker 3: We're going to get a massive flurry of opinions here. 207 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:07,960 Speaker 3: These next three days are going to be absolutely bonkers, 208 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:10,320 Speaker 3: huge opinions coming down, probably all on all three of 209 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 3: these days. One big tech case, Murphy versus Missouri formally 210 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:18,000 Speaker 3: called Biden versus Missouri. This is the government corporate censorship case, 211 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 3: the case where the Biden administration has, one might say, allegedly, 212 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 3: I would say, indeed empirically has been threatening the private 213 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 3: companies to essentially do their censorship dirty work for them 214 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 3: when it comes especially to COVID nineteen, vaxxine, and masking 215 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 3: information in the twenty twenty election. In particular, this is 216 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 3: when you had Jensaki speaking from the White House podium 217 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 3: about how, oh you know, take it from me, We're 218 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:42,440 Speaker 3: talking with Mark Zuckerberg about how to tamp down on 219 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:45,200 Speaker 3: masking misinformation. The question there is is this a first 220 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:48,800 Speaker 3: Mement violation? The court should say yes, I unfortunately predict 221 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 3: they probably will not. 222 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:50,679 Speaker 4: Again I hope I'm wrong. 223 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:52,679 Speaker 3: Then, the other big tech case comes out of my 224 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:56,080 Speaker 3: state of Florida and your state of Texas, involving our 225 00:10:56,080 --> 00:11:00,160 Speaker 3: respective states. Content moderation law is essentially common carrier law 226 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:04,199 Speaker 3: is trying to prevent viewpoint censorship on these social media platforms. 227 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:06,319 Speaker 3: The legal question there is whether or not these laws 228 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 3: are compatible with the First Amendments. Again, I say yes, 229 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 3: clearly so. The Google funded trade group net Choice, which 230 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 3: is the plaintiff in both cases says, no, we'll see 231 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 3: what the court says. I'm not optimistic about these cases, Jesse. 232 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 3: I really hope and I'm wrong them. 233 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:23,199 Speaker 1: Yeah, I hope you're wrong too, Josh, my brother, Thank you. 234 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 1: I appreciate it all right. 235 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:30,080 Speaker 2: This Texas Children's hospital scandal, what they're doing to children, 236 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 2: it's not going away. The scandal is growing. We're going 237 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 2: to dig into this a little more. Keep you updated 238 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 2: on it before we do that. Let's keep you updated 239 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 2: on this. 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Now, we have to accept that we live well, 260 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 2: we share home with some very, very very evil people 261 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:53,440 Speaker 2: in this country. And this Texas Children's hospital is amazing 262 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 2: because it's not just the evil people on the streets. 263 00:12:56,160 --> 00:12:59,959 Speaker 2: It's not just some thirty illegal alien murdering some child. 264 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 2: The people in high society and the elite institutions now 265 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:06,640 Speaker 2: are just as evil and just as abusive. Texas Children's 266 00:13:06,679 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 2: hospitals mutilating children. And they thought they were going to 267 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:13,319 Speaker 2: get away with this whole thing. Someone blew the whistle 268 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 2: on it. Now they're going after the doctor, the nurse 269 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:19,840 Speaker 2: who blew the whistle on it, and this scandal is 270 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:22,720 Speaker 2: getting big. But it really comes down to the fact 271 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 2: that an internationally recognized children's hospital brings children in and 272 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:30,960 Speaker 2: destroys their bodies for life. Gosh, that's where we are 273 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:32,959 Speaker 2: now joining me now, someone doing a lot of reporting 274 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:33,200 Speaker 2: on this. 275 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:36,959 Speaker 1: Spencer Linquist does great stuff. Field reporter for The Daily Wire. 276 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 2: Spencer tell me about your latest piece for the Wire. 277 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 1: What's going on? 278 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:45,079 Speaker 5: So what we looked at is one of the doctors 279 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 5: at the center of this controversy. His name is Richard 280 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:52,560 Speaker 5: Ogden Roberts, and he's a pediatric androcanologist. He was actually 281 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 5: one of the individuals who's a plaintiff in a case 282 00:13:55,679 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 5: against Texas's SB fourteen, which sought to ban these types 283 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:03,440 Speaker 5: of practice, his pubity blockers and cross sex hormones for minors. 284 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 5: So I looked into him and into the organizations that 285 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:09,640 Speaker 5: he allied with in this lawsuit against Texas, and we 286 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 5: revealed that all of these activist organizations that he partnered with, 287 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 5: many of them were actually sponsored or funded by different 288 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:21,400 Speaker 5: pharmaceutical entities. We had various pharmaceutical companies as well as 289 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:25,480 Speaker 5: one of the nation's largest, perhaps the largest pharmaceutical lobbying 290 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 5: group that represents a litany of different pharmaceutical companies that 291 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 5: actually manufacture, or produce or distribute these types of drugs. 292 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:38,000 Speaker 5: So what we're really seeing here is this alliance between 293 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 5: those who are actual ideologues for this cause and then 294 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 5: the pharmaceutical and medical interests that stand. 295 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:48,880 Speaker 2: Again, Spencer, now I'm stupid, So you need to break 296 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 2: this down for me, Why in the world would pharmaceutical 297 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 2: companies become training activists. 298 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 1: Could you explain that, Well, one. 299 00:14:57,280 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 5: Of the things that's really important to understand is they 300 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 5: would have a financial interest, not just in the transition process. 301 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 5: At the surgical level. Of course, these surgeries are often 302 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 5: very expensive, but they actually would make more money the 303 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 5: younger a patient attempts to become the opposite sex. So 304 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:16,120 Speaker 5: you've got PB blockers, and say that somebody starts this 305 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 5: at eleven or twelve or thirteen, and then they move 306 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 5: on to these cross sex hormones. This is something that 307 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 5: has to be taken on a monthly basis in many cases, 308 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:29,160 Speaker 5: so it's almost akin to a medical subscription service, if 309 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:32,240 Speaker 5: you will. The earlier that somebody starts on these drugs 310 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 5: and the longer they continue to take them, the more 311 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 5: money goes into the pockets of these companies that make, produce, 312 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 5: and distribute these drugsh We. 313 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 2: Do have some audio of this scumbag doctor if people 314 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 2: want to know what he's all about here. 315 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 6: It is often ask patients by themselves if there's a 316 00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 6: name that they use privately and they would like me 317 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 6: to use around them, and if they are comfortable with 318 00:15:55,760 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 6: me using that name on those pronouns with parents. 319 00:15:58,880 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 4: By the time they get to. 320 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 6: Me, they already have a name, and parents usually know 321 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 6: that name and no pronouns. So I say, I'm going 322 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:06,880 Speaker 6: to use the name that your child has given me, 323 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 6: if that's okay with your child, But I would ask 324 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 6: the patient themselves. We really want to create safe environments 325 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 6: for these patients, and unfortunately, not every patient wolis gender 326 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 6: diverse may have that safe environment at home, and it 327 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 6: may not be safe to use their firm to name 328 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 6: in front of family members or other individuals, and so 329 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 6: asking in private. 330 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 1: Probably the easiest way to go, Spencer. 331 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:37,080 Speaker 2: Is this just one quack rogue doctor destroying the name 332 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:40,480 Speaker 2: and reputation of Texas Children's Hospital? Or is there something 333 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 2: deeper at work here? 334 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 5: Well, this is really emblematic of what we've seen across 335 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 5: a number of different stories that I've reported on and investigated. 336 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 5: And really what this gets at is the alliance between 337 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 5: people who use their medical credentials, their degrees and then 338 00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 5: these activist organizations that have an audiological interest. And of course, 339 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 5: as we just from this audio clip that you just played, 340 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:05,119 Speaker 5: this is a doctor who is saying that he uses 341 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:08,960 Speaker 5: the quote unquote affirmed name of a child, even in 342 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:12,199 Speaker 5: instances in which the family is either unaware of this 343 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:15,480 Speaker 5: name or perhaps disapproving of it. So of course this 344 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:18,879 Speaker 5: indicates that there's some degree of ideological influence here at play. 345 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:22,119 Speaker 5: This isn't simply a case of the medical best practices 346 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:24,920 Speaker 5: being followed. And we know that this simply isn't a 347 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 5: case of proper adherence to medical standards because there was 348 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:33,159 Speaker 5: actually a whistleblower who came out very recently in a 349 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 5: report from Chris Rufo, and this whistleblower is alleging that 350 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:39,879 Speaker 5: this doctor as well as another doctor, actually engaged in 351 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 5: medicaid fraud in the billing process for these types of interventions, 352 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:48,480 Speaker 5: and that's something that is explicitly barred by Texas state law. 353 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:52,119 Speaker 5: And now it's being investigated by Attorney General Ken Paxton. 354 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:54,960 Speaker 5: Then of course we're waiting the results of that investigation. 355 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:58,000 Speaker 5: We're trying to figure out exactly who is aware of 356 00:17:58,040 --> 00:18:00,960 Speaker 5: this alleged fraud and how high up in the hospital 357 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:01,359 Speaker 5: it goes. 358 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 2: Spencer, I want to talk about Tyler Cherry. Most people 359 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:10,679 Speaker 2: thankfully don't know who this person is, but he's making 360 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:11,160 Speaker 2: some news. 361 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 1: Who's Tyler Cherry. 362 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:17,119 Speaker 5: Tyler Cherry was previously a communications specialist over at the 363 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:22,959 Speaker 5: Department of the Interior, and Tyler Cherry recently became a 364 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:25,440 Speaker 5: communication specialist over at the White House now, so we've 365 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 5: got quite an important promotion here under the Biden administration. 366 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:33,480 Speaker 5: He's somebody who has a very concerning social media history. 367 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:38,480 Speaker 5: He's discussed abolishing ICE. He made a call to abolish ICE. 368 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 5: Of course, that's the Immigration and Customs Enforcement which is 369 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:44,919 Speaker 5: responsible for enforcing so many of our immigration laws. 370 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:46,720 Speaker 1: He also said. 371 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 5: That he complained that Iowa was the first state to 372 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 5: vote in the primary system because of its demographics, because 373 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:58,240 Speaker 5: it is, in his estimation, too white. He also has 374 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:02,720 Speaker 5: talked about police, comparing them to lynch mobs and slave patrols, 375 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 5: and recently actually backpedaled from these statements because he took 376 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 5: a bit of criticism in the media. But this is 377 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:13,560 Speaker 5: an individual who worked at the Department of the Interior, 378 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:17,440 Speaker 5: and as my investigations on that department that DOI have 379 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 5: found that is a federal agency that really does show 380 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 5: the direction of the federal bureaucracy under the Biden administration. 381 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:29,040 Speaker 5: We had a story where they were actually celebrating transgender 382 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 5: Day of Visibility by having a screening of a documentary 383 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 5: on queer inclusion in scuba diving and marine biology. So 384 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:42,440 Speaker 5: this is the direction that the bureaucracy is going on 385 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 5: the Biden administration, and this individual, Tyler Cherry, gives more 386 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 5: examples of exactly the direction that we're heading right now. 387 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:56,920 Speaker 2: Finally, you were the one who broke the reporting on Biden, 388 00:19:57,280 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 2: the intel agencies and them going on in with all 389 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 2: this LGBTQ crap. 390 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:05,760 Speaker 1: What happened there? Yes, so this is a very interesting story. 391 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 5: The Office of the Director of National Intelligence, this is 392 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:11,680 Speaker 5: a cabinet level office. It's obviously it's a part of 393 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:16,200 Speaker 5: the intelligence community. So this is a very important agency, 394 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 5: a very important office, and they were celebrating Pride Month. 395 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:23,440 Speaker 5: We obtained a document from the ODE and I and 396 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:26,040 Speaker 5: we found that they were celebrating Pride Month with a 397 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:29,119 Speaker 5: list of different events, one of which was a transgender 398 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 5: flag manicure. So these intelligence agents were actually invited to 399 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:35,879 Speaker 5: get their nails painted the colors of the transgender flag 400 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:38,359 Speaker 5: or of the Pride flag. They're also taught how to 401 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:41,200 Speaker 5: croche their own Pride flags, and there was a number 402 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 5: of different events. They also heard from somebody who is 403 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:50,119 Speaker 5: self described as a transgender, non binary Philippink's activist. So 404 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 5: there's a number of different pride events. And this isn't obviously, 405 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 5: this isn't limited to just one agency or just one bureaucracy. 406 00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:01,359 Speaker 5: This is something that the Biden administration pushed throughout the 407 00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:04,920 Speaker 5: federal agencies. And we're seeing this battle really unfold where 408 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:07,520 Speaker 5: Trump is saying that he's going to gut these bureaucracies. 409 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:10,680 Speaker 5: He's going to purge bureaucrats who might otherwise undermine this 410 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 5: policy agenda. And meanwhile, we're seeing these types of bodyologies 411 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:17,720 Speaker 5: get embedded further and further into our bureaucracies. 412 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:21,919 Speaker 2: Spencer, you do great work, my friend. Keep doing it. 413 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:28,080 Speaker 2: I appreciate you. Come back soon. I said it before. 414 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:31,440 Speaker 2: It doesn't this stuff make you feel old? The country 415 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 2: was so normal when I was a kid. It just 416 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 2: makes me feel old. 417 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 1: Whatever. 418 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 2: Blackout coffee makes me feel young again. Wait, no, it doesn't. 419 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:41,640 Speaker 2: It just makes me feel good. I like blackout coffee, 420 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 2: and I guess it wouldn't make you feel young. Maybe 421 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:46,879 Speaker 2: I guess the energy. Either way, you should drink blackout coffee. 422 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:50,080 Speaker 2: They'll deliver it to your front door. I prefer the 423 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:50,640 Speaker 2: whole being. 424 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:52,120 Speaker 1: I'm a a a. 425 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:53,879 Speaker 2: Bit of an old soul like that. Maybe you're a 426 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:56,800 Speaker 2: K cup person. They have the k cups there. Blackout 427 00:21:56,840 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 2: Coffee is the patriotic coffee company out there promoting God, 428 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:06,639 Speaker 2: guns life America. While the other coffee companies are celebrating 429 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:10,440 Speaker 2: bride month. 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We 438 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 7: have also expanded access to care for service members and 439 00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:00,919 Speaker 7: their dependents who identify as transgender. So we're proud of 440 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:04,800 Speaker 7: our progress, but we are not complacent. We continue to 441 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 7: listen to the concerns of our service members up and 442 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 7: down the ranks, and we want to get it right. 443 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 7: We've heard concerns about policies affecting service members living with 444 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 7: HIV and policies focused on the needs of non binary 445 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:22,680 Speaker 7: service members. Please not, Our commitment is resolute, just as 446 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 7: it has been over the past three and a half years, 447 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 7: to continue our progress in full alignment with our focus 448 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:32,359 Speaker 7: on readiness and our focus on the well being of 449 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 7: our people on which our readiness depends. 450 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:39,000 Speaker 1: We are in some serious trouble. 451 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:44,000 Speaker 2: That is the Deputy Defense Secretary speaking at a prie 452 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 2: at a Pride event for our military Joining me now, 453 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:55,920 Speaker 2: Katie Gorka. She wrote a book, Next Gen Marxism, highly recommended. Katie, Honestly, 454 00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:57,639 Speaker 2: I don't even know if I have it in me 455 00:23:57,720 --> 00:23:59,639 Speaker 2: to laugh anymore. I don't know if I have it 456 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:01,120 Speaker 2: in me to cry anymore. 457 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:03,719 Speaker 1: We are in very, very serious trouble. 458 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:06,840 Speaker 2: How much this insanity has worked its way through every 459 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 2: part of this government. 460 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:10,919 Speaker 8: Well, I tell you the worst thing about it is, 461 00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:13,240 Speaker 8: I just don't even want to have to think about 462 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:15,760 Speaker 8: who other people are having sex with. Why did that 463 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:20,920 Speaker 8: have to become a topic for debate by our top 464 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:23,960 Speaker 8: policy makers. This is just so ridiculous, and I think 465 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 8: part of us has to laugh by doing so. 466 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 4: We understand the absurdity. 467 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 8: But We've also got to take this seriously, how this 468 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:35,679 Speaker 8: is undermining us, And I think it's very intentional. I 469 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:39,919 Speaker 8: think this is being done to intentionally undermine our integrity 470 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:42,120 Speaker 8: as a nation and our strength as a nation. 471 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 2: It's very obvious these people are destroying on purpose. We 472 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:50,400 Speaker 2: have a Chief Diversity and Inclusion Officer. 473 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:50,959 Speaker 1: That's amazing. 474 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 2: That's a thing Zakaya kar Johnson, I mean just kind 475 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:55,880 Speaker 2: of lays it out here. 476 00:24:57,200 --> 00:25:00,720 Speaker 9: We live and work within systems. In those systems, as 477 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 9: I mentioned before, are so deeply rooted in patriarchy, in colonialism, 478 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:12,080 Speaker 9: in racism, and otherism. I think that there's a culture 479 00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:15,359 Speaker 9: of you know, the culture of misogyny has allowed men 480 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:20,359 Speaker 9: to act without consequence and it becomes part of what. 481 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:21,720 Speaker 10: We believe is normal. 482 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 9: Right, and that in order to make any change, we've 483 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:30,199 Speaker 9: literally got to be about the work of dismantling that 484 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:32,679 Speaker 9: traditional structure at every juncture. 485 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:36,840 Speaker 2: These people, in the end are just trying to destroy, 486 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 2: aren't they. 487 00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:43,160 Speaker 8: Well, what she said was we have to dismantle, and 488 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:47,920 Speaker 8: that's exactly right. They are trying to dismantle the United States. 489 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 4: That is their goal. 490 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:53,720 Speaker 1: It is it is their goal. 491 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:57,040 Speaker 2: Okay, So tell me about what America First Legal was doing. 492 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:04,880 Speaker 8: So my understanding is that America First Legal, I mean, 493 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:07,120 Speaker 8: first of all, I think they're doing an incredible job, 494 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:09,600 Speaker 8: and I just want to say I'm so encouraged by 495 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:12,399 Speaker 8: what they are doing, by what Heritage is doing, but 496 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:14,639 Speaker 8: by what the RNC is doing, and by what the 497 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:17,679 Speaker 8: Trump campaign is doing. There is so much going on, 498 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:20,520 Speaker 8: but I think the one story that's been particularly interesting 499 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:24,280 Speaker 8: are these papers that have come out that America First 500 00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:29,119 Speaker 8: Legal got their hands on about what DHS has been doing. 501 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:34,200 Speaker 8: This notion that they have an advisory board that said 502 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:38,919 Speaker 8: being religious, or having served in the military, or supporting 503 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:44,360 Speaker 8: former President Donald Trump are all markers of domestic extremists. 504 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:49,119 Speaker 1: Wow. Yes, so we're all terrorists. 505 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:52,520 Speaker 2: Speaking of DHS, what are they doing at the border 506 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:53,960 Speaker 2: and why? 507 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:55,399 Speaker 1: Yeah? 508 00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:59,040 Speaker 8: Nothing, I don't know. And I'm sorry to say this 509 00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:02,680 Speaker 8: because you know, I worked for DHS under the Trump administration. 510 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 8: I was inside the organization. I you know, for the 511 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:08,800 Speaker 8: most part, have a great respect for it. I have 512 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:11,920 Speaker 8: a great respect for our customs and Border protection agents. 513 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 8: I got to spend time on the border. I think 514 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:18,440 Speaker 8: that what they're going through is absolutely brutal. I think 515 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:24,320 Speaker 8: for them having to really stand down and simply usher 516 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:30,080 Speaker 8: in these illegals is soul crushing for them. And I 517 00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 8: don't think we talk about this enough, you know. I'll 518 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:35,960 Speaker 8: tell you when I was there, I saw holding cells 519 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 8: with you know, as many as two hundred boys in 520 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:44,800 Speaker 8: one girls in another. People don't realize the extent to 521 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:49,600 Speaker 8: which our open border is an invitation to child trafficking. 522 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:54,720 Speaker 8: Children are being exploited mercilessly as a way to get 523 00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:58,480 Speaker 8: adults across the border, and our customs and Border protection 524 00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:01,240 Speaker 8: agents are being asked to just look the other way 525 00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:02,480 Speaker 8: and let them come in. 526 00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:06,959 Speaker 1: That's insanity, Katie, Thank you so much. I appreciate it. 527 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:16,200 Speaker 2: Listen, we have the largest slave trade in the history 528 00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:22,240 Speaker 2: of the world taking place right now on our southern border, 529 00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:28,360 Speaker 2: and it's being facilitated on purpose by the United States government. 530 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:32,440 Speaker 2: But think about that. We'd like to think we live 531 00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:37,520 Speaker 2: in these civilized times. The United States government is facilitating 532 00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:41,440 Speaker 2: the largest slave trade in the world, tens of thousands. 533 00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:45,240 Speaker 2: She brought up the kids. Here's how it works. Kids 534 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:48,800 Speaker 2: are trafficked across Oftentimes they're not with mom, they're not 535 00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:53,240 Speaker 2: with dad, They're with a very bad person. They get 536 00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:58,400 Speaker 2: in on purpose into the country. They'll get sent somewhere. 537 00:28:58,040 --> 00:28:59,080 Speaker 1: One of these NGOs. 538 00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:03,240 Speaker 2: We'll get these kids, send them to some foster home, 539 00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:07,800 Speaker 2: and then the kids will just disappear one day. We 540 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:12,120 Speaker 2: have witnesses now showing kids being picked up going willingly. 541 00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:15,720 Speaker 2: They're being picked up by the cartels and the car 542 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:18,400 Speaker 2: people who work for the cartels inside of the country, 543 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:22,400 Speaker 2: women and kids and the men too. But the women 544 00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:26,320 Speaker 2: and kids are all around us. No matter where you are, 545 00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:29,640 Speaker 2: they're around you, and they're being used in some of 546 00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:32,480 Speaker 2: the most terrible ways. The lucky ones are just being 547 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:36,360 Speaker 2: used for hard labor, sweeping up the floors, doing the laundry, 548 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:41,600 Speaker 2: hotels services, things like that. The less fortunate ones are 549 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:45,560 Speaker 2: being abused unimaginably, and this brings me just I just 550 00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:46,160 Speaker 2: wanted to make. 551 00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:48,520 Speaker 1: This point about border policy. 552 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:51,600 Speaker 2: People yell at me, and it's fine, but they yell 553 00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:54,120 Speaker 2: at me about being too harsh, and especially. 554 00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:54,960 Speaker 1: When it comes to the border. 555 00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:58,920 Speaker 2: Because what I want I want every illegal rounded up 556 00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:01,880 Speaker 2: in the country, every single one of them, handcuffs placed 557 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:04,440 Speaker 2: on them, tossed out of the country. I want the 558 00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:06,320 Speaker 2: next group that shows up at the border to be 559 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:09,480 Speaker 2: turned away either at the moat or the wall. 560 00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:10,880 Speaker 1: At gunpoint. 561 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:14,760 Speaker 2: At gunpoint, I want them turned around and pointed back south. 562 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:17,640 Speaker 1: And people think that's harsh. I'm the nice one. 563 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:21,720 Speaker 2: I'm the kind one, because that would put a stop 564 00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:26,120 Speaker 2: to what's happening here all these people. I'm an immigration squeish. 565 00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:29,000 Speaker 2: I try to be nice about it. You're actually the 566 00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:33,080 Speaker 2: cruel ones facilitating the largest slave trade in the history 567 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:35,960 Speaker 2: of the world. It's freaking awful what's going on. And 568 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:39,959 Speaker 2: it's awful what these timeshare companies do too. These timeshare companies, 569 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:43,160 Speaker 2: they lock you into these time shares, that's what they do. 570 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:45,800 Speaker 2: They don't tell you that when you're buying it, of course, 571 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:48,560 Speaker 2: but you walk in, you do the seminar. We got 572 00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:52,120 Speaker 2: a place on the beach, and then then one day 573 00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:54,680 Speaker 2: you want out. Maybe you're done with it. Maybe you 574 00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:56,600 Speaker 2: never used it. I hope that's not the case. Maybe 575 00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:59,600 Speaker 2: the kids moved away. But you're done. And that's when 576 00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:02,880 Speaker 2: they tell you, oh, sorry, can't do that, too bad. 577 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,600 Speaker 2: So sad you're stuck in it for life. You are 578 00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:08,800 Speaker 2: not stuck in it for life. You are one phone 579 00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:12,520 Speaker 2: call away from being free. So go be free. Call 580 00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:17,000 Speaker 2: lone Star transfer today eight four four three one zero 581 00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:20,520 Speaker 2: two six four six, we'll be back. 582 00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:32,240 Speaker 11: And on day one we will begin the largest domestic 583 00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:39,080 Speaker 11: deportation operation in American history. 584 00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:44,320 Speaker 2: Okay, sign me up, but do you know my caution there. 585 00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:47,520 Speaker 1: I'm all about to plan. Sounds good has to be 586 00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:48,600 Speaker 1: done to say the country. 587 00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:51,800 Speaker 2: I do not believe the American people have any stomach 588 00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:53,560 Speaker 2: for that at all. They may think they do, but 589 00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:54,560 Speaker 2: I don't believe that. 590 00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:56,120 Speaker 1: I want to know what arn things. 591 00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:58,120 Speaker 2: He may disagree with me, he may call me an idiot, 592 00:31:58,120 --> 00:31:58,680 Speaker 2: and he's my friend. 593 00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:00,240 Speaker 1: He's welcome to do that. Joining me now. 594 00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:04,320 Speaker 2: Aren McIntyre, author of his book That's Going Gangbusters, The 595 00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:06,120 Speaker 2: Total State, highly recommended. 596 00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:08,040 Speaker 1: Okay, Aren, you have a piece up. 597 00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:12,120 Speaker 2: It's time to talk about mass deportations. That's your latest piece, 598 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:13,200 Speaker 2: So let's talk about them. 599 00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:13,880 Speaker 1: Let's say you. 600 00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:17,840 Speaker 4: Nasty. Portations have become absolutely critical. 601 00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:20,080 Speaker 12: There could have been a time in which we secured 602 00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:23,680 Speaker 12: the border and then figure out everything internally once we 603 00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:26,960 Speaker 12: had stopped the constant flow of new people into the country. 604 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:29,920 Speaker 12: But that has come and gone. We now have tens 605 00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:33,920 Speaker 12: of millions of illegal immigrants in the United States, and 606 00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:37,040 Speaker 12: the Biden administration has made yet another move attempting to 607 00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:41,000 Speaker 12: go ahead and give out amnesty to hundreds and thousands 608 00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:44,120 Speaker 12: of these people. What's happening is that the Democratic Party 609 00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:48,440 Speaker 12: is leaving the border open on purpose, guaranteeing that millions 610 00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:51,000 Speaker 12: and millions of people will flow in every year, and 611 00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:53,760 Speaker 12: knowing that eventually the social pressure will build to go 612 00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:57,120 Speaker 12: ahead and give them amnesty. And once amnesty is installed, 613 00:32:57,160 --> 00:33:00,360 Speaker 12: they know that they have generations of advance. Is when 614 00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:03,520 Speaker 12: it comes to electoral politics. We have an electoral time 615 00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:06,120 Speaker 12: bomb sitting at the heart of the United States right now. 616 00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:08,640 Speaker 12: And if we don't go ahead and normalize the idea 617 00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:11,560 Speaker 12: of deporting people who have come here illegally, then the 618 00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:15,000 Speaker 12: Democrats will gain electoral advantage in perpetuity. 619 00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:21,400 Speaker 2: Agreed on all counts. My concern, arn is that the 620 00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:24,920 Speaker 2: American people have no stomach for this. I remember twenty sixteen, 621 00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:27,960 Speaker 2: Trump gets elected, does some good things at the border, 622 00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:32,000 Speaker 2: one of them, of course, holding these people in detention centers. 623 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:33,560 Speaker 1: And I remember, I know you do too. 624 00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:37,600 Speaker 2: The op they ran against him, kids in cages, crying 625 00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:41,760 Speaker 2: Congress women in About fifteen minutes later, the Trump administration 626 00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:45,000 Speaker 2: ended the child separation policy. Have to look good for 627 00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:48,440 Speaker 2: the media, So you're telling me the same administration and 628 00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:51,040 Speaker 2: the same American people who did that, they're going to 629 00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:54,400 Speaker 2: round up whole families and to port them back to Guatemala. 630 00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:55,360 Speaker 1: Don't see it happen. 631 00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:58,960 Speaker 12: I agree with you that we need a much sterner 632 00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:02,400 Speaker 12: stuff in our politicians. It's not so much about the people. Yes, 633 00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:06,200 Speaker 12: the voter needs to recognize how important this is, but 634 00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:08,799 Speaker 12: ultimately it's the leadership that will decide whether or not 635 00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:13,040 Speaker 12: this policy is made or broken. Critical also to understand 636 00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:16,080 Speaker 12: that it's not really about rounding up tens and millions 637 00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:19,040 Speaker 12: of people. With a simple adjustment to the way we 638 00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:21,279 Speaker 12: do business in the United States, we can create a 639 00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:25,799 Speaker 12: massive amount of self deportation. Go ahead and enforce everify 640 00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:29,239 Speaker 12: laws making it almost impossible for illegal aliens to get 641 00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:34,120 Speaker 12: work in the United States. Ban all non essential medical 642 00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:36,680 Speaker 12: care or anything else that the government would hand out 643 00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:38,600 Speaker 12: to these people, make sure that they're not allowed to 644 00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:39,440 Speaker 12: go ahead and. 645 00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:40,640 Speaker 4: Enroll in schools. 646 00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:45,160 Speaker 12: Go ahead and make significant changes highly tax remittances. These 647 00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:47,600 Speaker 12: are all things that we could do that would change 648 00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:50,360 Speaker 12: the incentive structure for people to come into the United States. 649 00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:54,560 Speaker 12: Even just enforcing the border would radically change the relationship 650 00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:57,120 Speaker 12: that new immigrants have with the United States. If they 651 00:34:57,239 --> 00:34:59,160 Speaker 12: know that the vast majority of them are going to 652 00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:01,600 Speaker 12: get turned around with they're going to stop coming. If 653 00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:03,880 Speaker 12: you can't guarantee that your family and friends are all 654 00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:06,040 Speaker 12: going to get moved in and receive large amounts of 655 00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:08,600 Speaker 12: benefits and work when they come across the border, the 656 00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:11,600 Speaker 12: incentives to stay here goes down. If you can't get work, 657 00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:13,920 Speaker 12: you can't get medical care, you can't get any of 658 00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:16,560 Speaker 12: these freebies, and you can't speak the language, then really, 659 00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:19,279 Speaker 12: what are you doing here? I agree that ultimately we 660 00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:21,520 Speaker 12: do need sterner stuff, but I think that there is 661 00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:24,799 Speaker 12: a large amount of people who would simply remove themselves 662 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,839 Speaker 12: from the United States if they didn't have a large 663 00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:30,080 Speaker 12: amount of economic incentive to stay around. 664 00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:36,239 Speaker 2: No, I'm doubtful we have the ability to do that. 665 00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:39,200 Speaker 2: We're not going to get California to enforce e verify, 666 00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:41,520 Speaker 2: for instance. You're going to have these blue states that 667 00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:43,560 Speaker 2: are just going to take in all these dirt balls 668 00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:44,520 Speaker 2: from all over the world. 669 00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:45,960 Speaker 1: But it is what it is. 670 00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:47,680 Speaker 2: All we can do is cross our fingers, because you're right. 671 00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:49,120 Speaker 1: To save the country, we have to do it. We 672 00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:49,719 Speaker 1: have to do it. 673 00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:52,960 Speaker 2: Another thing out there, Trump's saying on the campaign trail 674 00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:55,240 Speaker 2: is this about the Department of Education. 675 00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:58,480 Speaker 13: And I will shut down the federal Department of Education 676 00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:01,920 Speaker 13: and we will move everything to the stakes where it 677 00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:07,239 Speaker 13: belongs and where they can individualize education and do it 678 00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:09,880 Speaker 13: with the love for their children. 679 00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:15,360 Speaker 2: Okay, again, agreed, one hundred percent. How do we do that? 680 00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:21,680 Speaker 12: Well, every Republican president since Ronald Reagan has promised to 681 00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:23,960 Speaker 12: do this, and of course Ronald Reagan promised to do 682 00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:26,600 Speaker 12: this right after it was created under Jimmy Carter, and 683 00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:29,000 Speaker 12: none of them have done this. Is Donald Trump going 684 00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:31,520 Speaker 12: to be better at this? Don Ronald Reagan. I'd love 685 00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:35,000 Speaker 12: to believe that's true, but ultimately I'm not sure if 686 00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:37,640 Speaker 12: it will be. It does, of course need to happen, 687 00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:40,080 Speaker 12: but I think this is why most of these significant 688 00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:42,759 Speaker 12: actions are more likely to happen at the state level. 689 00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:45,120 Speaker 12: For instance, in my state of Florida, we've had a 690 00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:48,680 Speaker 12: big push to decouple the student and their funding from 691 00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:51,640 Speaker 12: the system itself, and now we have a large number 692 00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:55,400 Speaker 12: of public schools that are considering closing their doors because 693 00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:58,400 Speaker 12: so many people have moved their children to homeschool or 694 00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:01,520 Speaker 12: private school, are charter school, and so this is a 695 00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:03,520 Speaker 12: significant way to go ahead and change that would it 696 00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:05,200 Speaker 12: be great to go ahead and get rid of this 697 00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:10,120 Speaker 12: top down Department of Education disaster. Yes, absolutely, But we 698 00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:12,520 Speaker 12: don't have to wait for that. There are real changes 699 00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:15,840 Speaker 12: that can be made in very significant ways at the 700 00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:16,480 Speaker 12: state level. 701 00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:21,600 Speaker 2: Okay, so let's focus on that. Then on We love 702 00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:24,840 Speaker 2: to talk national politics, obviously, it's always it's all the 703 00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:28,279 Speaker 2: headlines on every news program, National this and national that. 704 00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:29,879 Speaker 1: But if you look at. 705 00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:32,920 Speaker 2: The future of America as being rocky, is the fifty 706 00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:36,239 Speaker 2: states are held together by a threat at this point 707 00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:39,600 Speaker 2: in time. Isn't our future local and statewide? Isn't that 708 00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:42,200 Speaker 2: really the future of freedom loving people? I'm sorry, I 709 00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:44,600 Speaker 2: don't have any faith in the federal government no matter 710 00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:45,440 Speaker 2: who controls it. 711 00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:46,760 Speaker 4: One hundred percent. 712 00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:48,919 Speaker 12: This is exactly the case I make in my book 713 00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:51,080 Speaker 12: the total state that ultimately the thing that is going 714 00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:55,600 Speaker 12: to defeat this massive leviathan is probably not a shattering 715 00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:58,919 Speaker 12: at the national level, but it's slow devolution back down 716 00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:01,080 Speaker 12: to the states. As the same wh government simply becomes 717 00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:04,600 Speaker 12: incompetent and actually hazardous to the health of the people 718 00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:07,520 Speaker 12: it governs. It's going to become obvious that states that 719 00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:09,880 Speaker 12: ignore it, or push back against it, or do a 720 00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:10,959 Speaker 12: better job at what it's. 721 00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:12,880 Speaker 4: Supposed to do. Are the ones where people are going 722 00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:13,640 Speaker 4: to want to be again. 723 00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:15,880 Speaker 12: My home state of Florida is when people are flocking 724 00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:18,040 Speaker 12: to they need to stop. There are too many people here, 725 00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:21,600 Speaker 12: but they're flocking here because they recognize that things are 726 00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:23,560 Speaker 12: going well, that this is the kind of place they 727 00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:25,640 Speaker 12: want to be, And the state has gone from being 728 00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:29,160 Speaker 12: a purple state trending blue to a deep red state. 729 00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:31,440 Speaker 12: In fact, I think the Biden administration or the Biden 730 00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:33,799 Speaker 12: campaign just that they're basically giving up on Florida. They 731 00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:35,839 Speaker 12: know it's no longer a battleground state. It is now 732 00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:38,600 Speaker 12: a red state permanently. And that's the kind of thing 733 00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:40,440 Speaker 12: that we need to do. You need to go ahead 734 00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:43,479 Speaker 12: and make sure that your shaff supports your Second Amendment rights, 735 00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:45,840 Speaker 12: that he's not going to enforce the kind of laws 736 00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:48,640 Speaker 12: that the federal government might want to push down. You 737 00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:51,600 Speaker 12: need to have governors and county commissioners that are going 738 00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:54,120 Speaker 12: to go ahead and push back against this stuff. This 739 00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:56,720 Speaker 12: is where action needs to be taking again. I would 740 00:38:56,800 --> 00:39:00,520 Speaker 12: never count out completely a change in Washington, but we 741 00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:02,840 Speaker 12: can get things done at that state and local level 742 00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:06,440 Speaker 12: that can radically change your life right away? 743 00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:10,160 Speaker 2: Is this a bad time to bring up that I'm 744 00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:13,359 Speaker 2: currently looking at buying a place in Florida? Arn, Are 745 00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:15,200 Speaker 2: you going to be upset if I buy a place 746 00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:17,600 Speaker 2: in Florida? Because men, every time we go to Florida, 747 00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:18,200 Speaker 2: it's awesome. 748 00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:21,600 Speaker 12: Look, Jesse, you'll be You're the one. You're the one 749 00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:23,279 Speaker 12: I'm gonna let You're the last one who's allowed to 750 00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:25,960 Speaker 12: come in. Everybody else we're slamming the door behind you, 751 00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:27,600 Speaker 12: but you get a special dispensation. 752 00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:31,799 Speaker 1: Thank you? All right? Do we have the will for 753 00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:32,520 Speaker 1: all this? Arn? 754 00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:35,920 Speaker 2: I'm talking about everything we just talked about, local politics, 755 00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:37,000 Speaker 2: state politics. 756 00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:37,960 Speaker 1: Forget all the national stuff. 757 00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:41,880 Speaker 2: Are we getting the will to take back our communities? 758 00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:44,360 Speaker 2: Are we getting the will to run these dirty comings 759 00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:46,680 Speaker 2: out of the public library and off the school board? 760 00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:49,799 Speaker 2: It seems like obviously we're not there, but it seems like. 761 00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:51,239 Speaker 1: We are getting there. 762 00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:54,839 Speaker 12: My wrong, You're right to be skeptical at first about 763 00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:57,000 Speaker 12: whether or not people will have the will to do this, 764 00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:59,760 Speaker 12: whether they have the motivation. But the answer is simply 765 00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:02,160 Speaker 12: we we don't have any other option. This is the 766 00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:04,759 Speaker 12: only way for it. The only way out is through this, 767 00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:07,920 Speaker 12: and it means getting involved It means making sure that 768 00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:10,319 Speaker 12: we can make these changes at the levels where we 769 00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:12,759 Speaker 12: can have an impact. There's no longer an option to 770 00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:16,399 Speaker 12: sit around and hope that electing Trump or Ron DeSantis 771 00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:19,960 Speaker 12: or somebody even more capable is eventually going to change 772 00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:21,439 Speaker 12: the tides of this whole thing. 773 00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:23,480 Speaker 4: If we want to go ahead and be the kind 774 00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:24,160 Speaker 4: of people that the. 775 00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:27,400 Speaker 12: Constitution was designed to govern, then we have to be 776 00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:29,440 Speaker 12: the moral and religious people. We have to be the 777 00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:32,480 Speaker 12: people who are vigorously involved in the civic life of 778 00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:35,480 Speaker 12: this nation. We don't have any other option. We have 779 00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:38,319 Speaker 12: to get motivated. We have to be those people. We 780 00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:40,960 Speaker 12: can sit around and belly ache about how others aren't 781 00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:42,920 Speaker 12: doing it, but if we aren't doing it, if we 782 00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:45,319 Speaker 12: aren't taking up that flag and marching forward, then we 783 00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:46,239 Speaker 12: have no room to talk. 784 00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:49,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt about it. And you are the man. 785 00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:52,319 Speaker 1: His book is the total stake. Go buy it. 786 00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:56,880 Speaker 2: Appreciate you brother. All Right, it's time for lightning the 787 00:40:56,920 --> 00:41:10,239 Speaker 2: mood next. Okay, it's time to lighten the mood. And 788 00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:12,839 Speaker 2: everyone who knows me, everyone who watches the show or 789 00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:15,680 Speaker 2: listens to my radio show, knows that I like to 790 00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:20,040 Speaker 2: make fun of Italians. Why because I'm rude, and also 791 00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:23,440 Speaker 2: because I love them. That's the secret I've always gotten 792 00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:26,680 Speaker 2: along with them. I love their food, I enjoy the culture. 793 00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:29,400 Speaker 2: Half my buddies are Italians, and they just they make 794 00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:31,919 Speaker 2: me laugh the way they talk. And let's talk about 795 00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:34,359 Speaker 2: the food for a moment. Part of the reason I 796 00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:37,640 Speaker 2: love to give Italians a bunch of crap is these 797 00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:42,520 Speaker 2: people take their food very, very very seriously, very seriously, 798 00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:46,120 Speaker 2: and I take my food seriously. But if you suggest 799 00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:49,359 Speaker 2: something to them, like one of my buddies, if ever 800 00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:51,560 Speaker 2: he's in the mood for pizza, I'll say, good, should 801 00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:54,400 Speaker 2: we get dominoes. He's liable to fight you for that 802 00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:56,040 Speaker 2: if you suggest dominoes to him. 803 00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:57,480 Speaker 1: So I we. 804 00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:02,840 Speaker 2: Came across this video of some dude purposely massacring Italian food, 805 00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:05,560 Speaker 2: and gosh, this is just awesome. 806 00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:10,680 Speaker 7: Every single Italian I pissed off you're twenty twenty. 807 00:42:10,400 --> 00:43:08,120 Speaker 10: Three, doesn't understand. 808 00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:14,719 Speaker 2: Oh, let's see them all. 809 00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:16,440 Speaker 10: H