1 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 1: Mr garbutsch Off, tear down this wall. Either you're with 2 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 1: us or you were with the terrorists. If you've got 3 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:22,120 Speaker 1: healthcare already, then you can keep your plan. If you're 4 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 1: satisfied with it is not President of the United States, 5 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 1: take a kid back together. We will make America great again. 6 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 1: We'll never sharend It's what you've been waiting for all day. 7 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 1: Buck Sexton with America now joined the conversation called Buck 8 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 1: Toll Free at eight four four nine hundred Buck. That's 9 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 1: eight four four nine hundred two, eight to five, sharp mind, 10 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 1: strong voice, Buck Sexton, Team Buck, Welcome to the Freedom 11 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 1: Hot Freestyle Friday. We are here. We have much to discuss, 12 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 1: much going on. A little preview will start with the 13 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:06,839 Speaker 1: last first or later on in the show, I'm gonna 14 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 1: be talking to you about how today's bust steal Day, 15 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 1: a little history of that take some time on a 16 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:15,400 Speaker 1: Friday Talk History also will be joined by one of 17 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 1: the foremost experts in the world in recovering incredibly valuable 18 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 1: works of art, including the Bill an original copy of 19 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 1: the Bill of Rights, a man who can get into 20 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:30,839 Speaker 1: the details of that, and it's it's the Thomas Crown Affair. 21 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 1: But in real life, my friends, and well, because there 22 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:38,039 Speaker 1: was a story about over five hundred million dollars of art. 23 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 1: This was in Fox News earlier in the week. That 24 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:43,679 Speaker 1: is some say is is in Ireland after an artist 25 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 1: decades ago. We'll discuss that. Will also be joined by 26 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 1: our friend Jimmy Failer to just give us his thoughts 27 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 1: on the week. And I have an article written by 28 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 1: a feminist that you'll you'll have to hear to believe. Um, 29 00:01:56,960 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 1: it's incredible in how hostile, wrongheaded and really really evil 30 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:08,240 Speaker 1: it is. And it's a mother writing about her own sons. 31 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:11,360 Speaker 1: It's it's it's appalling stuff. But it's interesting because it's 32 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:15,920 Speaker 1: a window into the mind of the contemporary feminist left 33 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 1: that is just trying to ruin the lives of as 34 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 1: many women and now as we see other people as 35 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 1: it possibly can. As as an ideology, it is deeply destructive. 36 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:27,360 Speaker 1: So a lot of different things to bring into the 37 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 1: mix here on the show today. Oh and of course 38 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 1: all of you your phone calls. Friday love to hear 39 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:35,400 Speaker 1: from you. Eight four four nine d Buck eight four 40 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 1: four to eight to five. Russia fatigue is a real thing. 41 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 1: You know, it's if you work in the media, if 42 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:46,360 Speaker 1: you're somebody that spends your time trying to sift through 43 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 1: what's a waste of time from what's important, what we 44 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 1: should be talking about the domination of Russia. And the 45 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 1: headlines is like nothing else I've I've ever seen. There's 46 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:02,679 Speaker 1: so many stories about at every different angle of this 47 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 1: reported meeting with Donald Trump Junior, Jared Kushner, Paul Manafort, 48 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 1: MS vezl Nitskaya, um, and now we are told there 49 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 1: are more in the room. That's the big story from today. 50 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 1: I'm still having a hard time with why I'm supposed 51 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:23,359 Speaker 1: to be upset about this from the conservative perspective. Look, 52 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 1: I get why democrats and why the media that's been 53 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 1: pushing the narrative for so long views this as an 54 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:34,080 Speaker 1: incredibly important story. I understand why they because it's the 55 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 1: first time they can point to anything that's not just 56 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 1: really speculation and complete thin air and say, well, this 57 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 1: could be indicative of a bunch of other things. But 58 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 1: I'm seeing a lot of conservatives saying, oh, this is 59 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 1: this is bad, and I say, well, it's it was unwise, 60 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 1: it wasn't sound decision making, but it doesn't strike me 61 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 1: as evil. I don't understand why it's such a big deal. 62 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 1: Why it's such a problem in theory. I know now 63 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 1: because of all the Russia conspiracy talk and everything else 64 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 1: and collusion. I don't understand why getting information about Hillary 65 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 1: Clinton from any other party, if it's true information and 66 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 1: it's something that should be known, why is that? Why 67 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:22,599 Speaker 1: is that an issue? I'm I'm confused about about this. 68 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:27,360 Speaker 1: And of course, once you add into it, uh, the collusion, uh, 69 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:33,920 Speaker 1: the the seeming seemingly similar effort to get information that's 70 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:36,280 Speaker 1: gone on in the Ukraine, and you know, you tie 71 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 1: all this stuff together and you say to yourself, what 72 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:40,279 Speaker 1: am I really supposed to be so upset about here? 73 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 1: I still don't see it. I'm waiting for it. I'm 74 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 1: annoyed that the administration seems to make blunder after blunder 75 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 1: on this story. But I don't see anything truly nefarious 76 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 1: in it. And I mean this, if I saw it, 77 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 1: I would say it. I just don't see it. I 78 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:02,160 Speaker 1: think that there novices to this game of politics, which 79 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:05,359 Speaker 1: is just a statement of fact, really, but they don't 80 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 1: have an understanding. When I say they the Kushner's and 81 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:13,719 Speaker 1: the Donald Trump juniors, they don't understand. They don't understand, uh, 82 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 1: international intrigue. And you know, you talk to them about 83 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 1: you're sitting down with somebody. Is that person a counter 84 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:23,839 Speaker 1: intelligence officer of the Russian state as is now being reported. 85 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 1: They don't understand this stuff. They don't know this stuff now. 86 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:30,119 Speaker 1: Not understanding is not an excuse. This is where somebody 87 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:32,840 Speaker 1: would probably ignorance of the law is no excuse. I 88 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:35,720 Speaker 1: always say to those people, by the way, that given 89 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 1: the complexity and also the level of interpretation in the 90 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 1: federal criminal Code in this country, that in fact, ignorance 91 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 1: of the law probably should be or could be in 92 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 1: some circumstances an excuse. But but here's the here's the 93 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 1: latest on this, and I should hope, by the way, 94 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 1: you know on on Fox dot com right now, Fox 95 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:58,600 Speaker 1: news dot com right now, the main stories about Jane 96 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:00,839 Speaker 1: Sanders and her FBI pro but on CNA and the 97 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:05,479 Speaker 1: main stories of course about the Russia meeting, which they're 98 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 1: now saying had additional people at least eight people in 99 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 1: the room according to CNN and other sites. Here's the 100 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 1: here's the latest on it, and let's break it down together. 101 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 1: Let's see And by the way, if you think that 102 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:19,039 Speaker 1: I'm missing something I want to know, you know, like 103 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 1: I say, it's freestyle Friday. I have a lot of 104 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:23,119 Speaker 1: things that I want to talk to you about today, 105 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 1: but I don't. I don't want to have a rigid 106 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:27,479 Speaker 1: show structure in mind. So if you, if you call in, 107 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 1: let me chat about whatever your thoughts are on this. 108 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 1: I'm I've been talking to friends of mine, both in 109 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 1: media and in my my non media life about this 110 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:38,599 Speaker 1: whole story. And because because I don't want to be 111 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 1: one of these people who's uh embarrassing himself by defending 112 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 1: the defending things that either shouldn't be defended or can't 113 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:51,919 Speaker 1: be defended, which is already happening. It's at different points 114 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:54,480 Speaker 1: in the in the whole saga of Trump versus the media, 115 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:56,919 Speaker 1: people will say, well, you know, Trump did this is brilliant. No, 116 00:06:57,120 --> 00:07:00,159 Speaker 1: I mean that probably wasn't a good idea. Um So 117 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 1: I don't want to fall into that trap. So I 118 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 1: try to be testing and retesting my assumptions. I try 119 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:08,920 Speaker 1: to make sure that I'm staying on on track here 120 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 1: with what at least I believe is the truth and 121 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 1: looking at this issue and looking at what actually happened 122 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 1: in this meeting. I don't see what the big problem is. 123 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 1: Unless you believe then all the other pieces are just 124 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 1: waiting to be put in place. Unless you already believe 125 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 1: that there's Russia collusion, which I still don't think would 126 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 1: be criminal, but it could be a political crime whatever, 127 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 1: Unless you believe that though this meaning to me, doesn't 128 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 1: seem to be that big of a deal. Uh. And 129 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 1: I'm I'm trying to wrap my head around why some 130 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 1: fellow conservatives who are out there, um seems so convinced 131 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 1: that it is a really big deal. I don't see it. 132 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 1: Here's here's the update though from CNN today on this. 133 00:07:57,400 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 1: Keep in mind at CNN so you know it is 134 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 1: what it is. The June meeting at Trump Tower with 135 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 1: Donald Trump Junior, Jared Kushner, and Paul Manafort included at 136 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 1: least eight people um. The revelation of additional participants comes 137 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 1: as The Associated Press first reported Friday that a Russian 138 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 1: American lobbyist named Reno ach Metchin said he also attended 139 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 1: the June meeting with Donald Trump Jr. CNN has reached 140 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 1: out to achmets In for comments so far acknowledged in attendance, 141 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 1: Trump Junior, Kushner, Manafort, Russian lawyer Velzelnitskaya, ach Metin and 142 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 1: publicist Rob Goldstone. So here's what you need to know 143 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:43,439 Speaker 1: about this, or what they want you to know about 144 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 1: this ac mentioned guy. He's a registered lobbyist for Vezln 145 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:51,720 Speaker 1: Velnitskaya's organization, which has focused on lobbying Washington to overturn 146 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:56,720 Speaker 1: the Magnitsky sanctions. According to lobbying records, the Magnitsky Act 147 00:08:56,800 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 1: allows the US to withhold visas and freeze the assets 148 00:08:59,880 --> 00:09:04,200 Speaker 1: of Russians thought to have violated human rights. Vesl Nitskaya 149 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 1: found that a group purporting to seek the removal of 150 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:11,680 Speaker 1: Moscow's ban on the adoption of Russian children by US citizens, 151 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:15,840 Speaker 1: which put which was put in place in retaliation for 152 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 1: the Magnitsky Act. So all right, I'm, like I said, 153 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:24,680 Speaker 1: I'm trying to follow this and it's easy to get 154 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:29,679 Speaker 1: lost in the weeds here, I think pretty pretty quickly. Um, 155 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:32,440 Speaker 1: But I also want to say that you have to 156 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 1: try to follow this stuff closely because then you'll find 157 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 1: out I mean, Bloomberg View, I was just reading from CNM. 158 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 1: But Eli Lake over bloomberg View has looked into more 159 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 1: of the connections going on here and you know, you 160 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 1: had that, they had Christopher Steele, who's that former British 161 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 1: spy who pulled together that dossier on Trump. And there 162 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 1: are very strange connections that you see when you look 163 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 1: into the US more between GEP, between GPS, which is 164 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:11,440 Speaker 1: this organization that was looking into well organization that's essentially 165 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 1: an oppo research firm UM and this lawyer vessel Nitskaya, 166 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 1: a Fusion GPS, part of my Fusion GPS, and this 167 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:25,440 Speaker 1: lawyer Veslnitskaya, and something's there. There's more information that we 168 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 1: need to make sure that we understand what the full 169 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 1: extent of all these connections are. But there's something incredibly 170 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 1: shady going on here. It's very strange that this all happened. 171 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:41,680 Speaker 1: You've got Vezilnisky involved, the lawyer, she's involved in trying 172 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 1: to lobby over the Magnitsky Act, which remember is to 173 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 1: punish people. It's it had to do with this guy 174 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 1: who uncovered all this Russian corruption. And in Russia, you 175 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:52,560 Speaker 1: uncover corruption, you can measure your life with an egg 176 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 1: timer and they threw him in prison, he was tortured, 177 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:59,080 Speaker 1: he was murdered, and Congress past the Magnitsky Act putin 178 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:03,800 Speaker 1: hates it because it punishes some of his his cronies 179 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 1: and and the very wealthy Russian oligarchs that Putin needs 180 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 1: to keep somewhat happy. Um and you know Vesilance guy 181 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 1: was at She's the remember of the Russian lawyer. I know, 182 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:16,079 Speaker 1: I'm a I'm a I'm trying to keep it all 183 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:18,320 Speaker 1: straight as I'm drawing these connections here, but it is, 184 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:22,080 Speaker 1: it is a tangled web. She was at this congressional 185 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 1: hearing last year on Magnitsky and she was meeting with 186 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:31,320 Speaker 1: this She met with Trump Junior, as we know, and 187 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 1: she apparently brought in this guy a Metschin. And you 188 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:40,960 Speaker 1: just have all this, all this stuff coming together and 189 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:42,720 Speaker 1: we don't I'm what I'm trying to get in here 190 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 1: is that there's something that we don't know that will 191 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 1: make all this make a lot more sense, Meaning there 192 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 1: are facts that still have to be uncovered that will 193 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:51,560 Speaker 1: establish for us what was really going on here, because 194 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 1: this doesn't make sense right now. There's just stuff that 195 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:58,840 Speaker 1: doesn't add up, that smells funky, it smells fishy. And 196 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 1: I think that the the information, by the way, that 197 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:03,560 Speaker 1: keeps coming out about this. The press has clearly had 198 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:07,080 Speaker 1: this for a long time about this meeting, and they've 199 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:10,280 Speaker 1: been digging into it and they've prepared, they've had this 200 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 1: timeline ready, they've prepared all this stuff to pull together. Um, 201 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 1: so there's a lot going on here that is in 202 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 1: the process of discoveries, the press is letting us know 203 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 1: what they want us to know. And in the process, 204 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 1: I think we're going to find out that there's information 205 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 1: that they were hoping would not come to light, and 206 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 1: it will. But bottom line to all this is I 207 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 1: just don't see what the problem is here for this 208 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 1: meeting other than it doesn't it doesn't look good. But 209 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 1: the media is the one telling The media are out 210 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 1: there telling us it doesn't look good. I don't see 211 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:49,679 Speaker 1: this as the huge issue that everyone, well not everyone, 212 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:50,960 Speaker 1: but that a lot of people who are out there 213 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 1: to do. And I don't want to spend too much 214 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 1: of our time on it today because I think that 215 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 1: we are reaching we've certainly reached Russia fatigue for the week. 216 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 1: I'm reaching Russia fatigue overall. You know this is this 217 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 1: has really turned into a form of mass hsteria now 218 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:07,840 Speaker 1: and you have to be anti Russia as an enemy state. 219 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 1: You have to say that, right away, we should consider 220 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:12,719 Speaker 1: military action against Russia. Russia is the greatest enemy of 221 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 1: the US faces in the world. Russia hacked our election. Russia, 222 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 1: this Russia, that it's it's out of control. This is 223 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:22,840 Speaker 1: actually when dangerous decision making is often made. It is 224 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:29,320 Speaker 1: when the clamoring crowds demand dramatic action. That's when mistakes 225 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 1: can be made. And you're seeing this now even from Republicans. Oh, 226 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:34,960 Speaker 1: we've got to do so much more about Russia. Maybe 227 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 1: we need to cool our jets a little bit here, 228 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:39,439 Speaker 1: Just just chill a bit and make sure we fully 229 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:42,440 Speaker 1: understand all of the different players and all the different 230 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 1: pieces that are in play, and understand that the the 231 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:49,559 Speaker 1: media that's releasing this to you has an agenda. They've 232 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:52,560 Speaker 1: known about this for a while, and they're trying to 233 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 1: build towards a narrative because they have rested their entire 234 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 1: whatever you think of their credibility, on the fulfillment of 235 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 1: this promise that there will be a day of reckoning 236 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:08,000 Speaker 1: for the Trump administration based on Russia collusion that will 237 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:11,720 Speaker 1: effectively nullify Hillary's loss and bring the Democrats back into power. 238 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 1: That is the promise that the mainstream media has made 239 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 1: two Democrats in America and these stories, this drip drip 240 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 1: of stories about this meeting are all part of that effort. 241 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 1: So oh, it's also action movie. Quote Friday. By the way, 242 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 1: action we can kill it the movie fee the coast. 243 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 1: We get together, have a few left. Quote free your 244 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 1: Fridays action movie quote Fridays eight four four buck eight 245 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 1: four four eight to five. Let up those lines, team 246 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 1: will be right back. The connections I was trying to 247 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:55,240 Speaker 1: get at before, and I just want to be be 248 00:14:55,360 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 1: clear about it. Fusion GPS is behind the Trump dossier. Vezilnitskaya, 249 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:05,520 Speaker 1: the Russian lawyer in the meeting with Donald Trump Jr. 250 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:10,360 Speaker 1: That's caused all this. This fewer this week was showing 251 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 1: up at Congress and was and was very much involved 252 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 1: in trying to get the repeal of the Magnitsky Act. 253 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 1: Fusion GPS was also part of a campaign to get 254 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 1: the repeal of the Magnitsky Act. Fusion GPS was doing 255 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 1: work to that end. Now you can tell me that 256 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 1: you think that that is entirely a coincidence, but that 257 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 1: would seem to be overlooking. Uh, all of a sudden, 258 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 1: you've got an anti You've got an anti Trump oppo 259 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 1: group out there, Um that pulls together this dossier. This 260 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 1: is why Fusian GPS. By the way, it's going to 261 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 1: be at this Senate hearing next week. Um, but this 262 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 1: is there. There's something going on here. Um, I can't 263 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 1: tell you in Fusion GDPs of course says it does no. 264 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 1: It has released statements to the presscording of Bloomberg claiming 265 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 1: it had no knowledge of the Veslets guy at Trump 266 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 1: junior meeting, and its work on the Trump dossier did 267 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 1: not intersect with its work on behalf of Prevazone. Okay, 268 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 1: So Prevazone is a firm that was a holding company 269 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 1: that paid a six million dollar fine having to do 270 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 1: with the Magnitsky Act. And so there's just, at a minimum, 271 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 1: you've got a lot of shady connections going on here 272 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 1: of different groups trying to get Russian interests going or 273 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:37,400 Speaker 1: trying to push Russian interests, and so that's not as 274 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 1: unusual as the media would have you believe. But also 275 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 1: it just seems surprising, doesn't it, that that Fusion GPS, 276 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:46,680 Speaker 1: the oppo research group that pulled together the dossier, was 277 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 1: also involved with the Magnitsky Act and the Magnitsky act 278 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 1: is the pretext for the meeting with the Russian lawyer 279 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 1: with Donald Trump Jr. You see what I'm saying that, 280 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 1: you know, you pull all those things together, you think, 281 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 1: so that's just a coincidence, Huh. Of all the OPPA 282 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 1: research groups in the world, it's an opper research group 283 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:08,960 Speaker 1: that has involvement and part of a campaign that is 284 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:12,440 Speaker 1: the very pretext used by the lawyers on the sky 285 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:16,240 Speaker 1: to get the meeting with Trump. But I guess it's 286 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:19,280 Speaker 1: just you know nothing. I can't tell you what it means. 287 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 1: It just seems a little funky to me. Dmitri in 288 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:32,480 Speaker 1: Mississippi on w BUV. What do you think what they're doing? Oh, 289 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:35,360 Speaker 1: I got some interferes I'm sorry, go ahead, I lost 290 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 1: you for a second. Or what's going on? Dmitri? Well, 291 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 1: I still don't understand why Democrats hating Russians. That Macha. 292 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:45,879 Speaker 1: I'm from Russia and this is the most peaceful nation 293 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:50,680 Speaker 1: in the world. Old Russians were fighting against the Nazis, 294 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:56,119 Speaker 1: terist and everything. Why do Democrats are building this uh Uh? 295 00:17:57,480 --> 00:18:00,119 Speaker 1: I don't know how to call it properly gains thrush. 296 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:03,760 Speaker 1: They're saying that Russia is an enemy state. Dmitri. And 297 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:06,199 Speaker 1: they're saying that we should treat Russia like we're almost 298 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 1: in a state of Cold war again. And that's just nonsense. 299 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 1: Why don't they bring China, Iran, any other countries but Russia. 300 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:18,400 Speaker 1: I know you'll you'll notice that the only the only 301 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:21,159 Speaker 1: stories that we're hearing about shady contacts have to do 302 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:25,240 Speaker 1: with with you know, Russian lobbyists or former Russian government 303 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:27,439 Speaker 1: officials or whatever it may be. There are a lot 304 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:30,800 Speaker 1: of other countries out there that oppose m well, there 305 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:34,119 Speaker 1: are there are other countries that pose problems just as 306 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 1: big as anything Russia poses for us in the short term. 307 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 1: And and there are areas you know now to say hey, 308 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:42,760 Speaker 1: maybe we can work with It's fascinating, is it, Dmitri. 309 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:46,680 Speaker 1: Under the Obama administration, work with Iran was a mantra. 310 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:48,600 Speaker 1: It was work with Iran or war. That's what we 311 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:50,959 Speaker 1: were told. That was a false choice. But now if 312 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:53,520 Speaker 1: you say, well, let's work with Russia on some things, 313 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 1: it's you're a coward, you're a sellout, You're a quizzling. 314 00:18:57,119 --> 00:19:00,639 Speaker 1: Uh you know, you're you're you're doing Trump's I'm lynn bidding. 315 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:04,639 Speaker 1: I mean, it's just crazy. What's out there exactly, and 316 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 1: that's why they're trying to build another war. They're not 317 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:10,600 Speaker 1: going to be against rations said, well, read the history books, 318 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:15,119 Speaker 1: learn the history. Well, I mean, we do know nobody 319 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:17,240 Speaker 1: wants a war. Well, we'll leave it at that, nobody 320 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 1: wants a war. Um anyway, do you meet you? Thanks 321 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:23,480 Speaker 1: for calling in. Uh, what are your thoughts on all this? 322 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:28,720 Speaker 1: To five? Want to talk about the d n C 323 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:30,679 Speaker 1: in the Ukraine for a few I haven't done that 324 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:33,199 Speaker 1: yet this week, so maybe that would be interesting. And 325 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:35,840 Speaker 1: then we'll talk about one of the craziest things written 326 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 1: by a feminist in a long time that I've read, 327 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 1: and and that is saying a lot, my friends. We'll 328 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:52,919 Speaker 1: be right back. The Freedom Hunt rocks online too. You 329 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:55,440 Speaker 1: can hang out with Team Buck anytime. Plus get bucks 330 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:58,360 Speaker 1: the latest news and analysis. Goed up buck Sexton dot com. 331 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:05,440 Speaker 1: That's buck Sexton dot The Buck is back. Take some calls. 332 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:08,440 Speaker 1: Todd in North Carolina, w P T I, what's going on? Todd? 333 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 1: I'm all right, man, thanks for calling in. Well, I'm 334 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 1: just calling saying I'm just tired of the Russian thing altogether. 335 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 1: I mean, there's nothing there. I'm still waiting to be 336 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:27,960 Speaker 1: wowed by the bombshells that the media is gonna drop 337 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:29,960 Speaker 1: on all of us with this stuff, and and so far, 338 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 1: I'm like, no, I just I don't see it. Well, 339 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:36,320 Speaker 1: I agree, is like every day you're waking up breaths like, 340 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:40,560 Speaker 1: oh my god, what's gonna happen today? You know what, 341 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:42,320 Speaker 1: what are we really going to find out that that 342 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:45,520 Speaker 1: Trump and his people told the Russians to hack into 343 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:48,880 Speaker 1: Hillary's or not Hillary, but to hack into uh, Podesta 344 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 1: and the d n C servers. I don't think we're 345 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:53,840 Speaker 1: ever gonna find that out. And short of that, I 346 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:55,879 Speaker 1: don't really what else could we even find out that 347 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 1: we would care about. I don't know. Well, I'm I'm 348 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 1: kind of curious as to why the DNC hasn't I 349 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 1: handed over their server. Yeah, well, they said they handled, 350 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:08,320 Speaker 1: they said they they they fixed the glitch, is basically 351 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:10,480 Speaker 1: what they've told everybody. But I don't think that's the case. 352 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:15,960 Speaker 1: I think that involved hammers and everything else. Yeah. Yeah, 353 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 1: isn't it funny, By the way, how quickly we forget 354 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:19,720 Speaker 1: that when Hillary had the whole email schedule and that 355 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 1: was under investigation. Uh, they there were people that were 356 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:30,159 Speaker 1: literally taking hammers to blackberries. That's unusual behavior. Yeah, but 357 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:33,480 Speaker 1: there's no intense Yeah. I mean, you know, I I 358 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 1: I usually wipe and then sell my old phone or 359 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:38,399 Speaker 1: I give it back to my employer or whatever. I 360 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:41,240 Speaker 1: tend not to try to to take it out like 361 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 1: an office space when they take out the the printer 362 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 1: and they beat it with baseball bats, which is one 363 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 1: of my favorite scenes in that movie. You know, I 364 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 1: don't do that with my old phone unless there was 365 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:53,440 Speaker 1: a real problem. So it's it's interesting. Isn't it odd 366 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 1: that people, you know, the the double standards at work here? 367 00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:57,320 Speaker 1: But I agree with the man. I don't. I don't 368 00:21:57,320 --> 00:21:58,560 Speaker 1: see it as a big thing. You have an action 369 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 1: movie quote for me. All right, let's let's see what 370 00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:07,480 Speaker 1: you got all right here it is I take pleasure 371 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:11,800 Speaker 1: and get you boy. Uh Forest wait no no no, no, 372 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 1: no no no. The rock, the rock, the rock. You 373 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:20,880 Speaker 1: got it. You're good. There we go, There we go. 374 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 1: Thank you, sir for calling in. Tod appreciate it. Jim in, 375 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 1: jim In, thank you, Thank you. Touch Jim and Pennsylvania 376 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:32,359 Speaker 1: w r A K. Hey, how are you doing? Box? 377 00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 1: I'm good? What's going on? Jim? Well, I'm calling in 378 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:41,080 Speaker 1: I'm I voted for Trump, and I am really really 379 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:45,359 Speaker 1: sick and tired of hearing the Russia stuff. Uh. Personally, 380 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:48,920 Speaker 1: I think if it took Russia's help to get Trump elected, 381 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:52,240 Speaker 1: we should all be grateful because it's the only chance 382 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:55,439 Speaker 1: we've had to elect somebody that could possibly be a 383 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 1: voice for us. Well, you see, that's that's where the 384 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:02,080 Speaker 1: huge separation Jim Happy here. The Democrats are so upset 385 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:03,359 Speaker 1: about this, and they want everyone else to be so 386 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:06,200 Speaker 1: upset about this because they think this is I've heard 387 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:09,680 Speaker 1: people on TV, you know, Revere Democrats say this is 388 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:12,480 Speaker 1: like the crime of the century, and and and and 389 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:16,160 Speaker 1: the crime. Ultimately, let's say everything that they said happened 390 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:19,719 Speaker 1: or they think happened happened. The only consequence was Hillary 391 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 1: lost the election, which half the country is like, yeah, 392 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:25,080 Speaker 1: that's a good thing. So it's hard to get too 393 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 1: upset about it, no matter what I mean, just on 394 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:29,200 Speaker 1: on an emotional level, I understand people will say, oh, 395 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 1: well it's wrong and it included with Russia. Fine, but 396 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:35,000 Speaker 1: you know, people didn't die here, you know what I'm saying. 397 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 1: I mean, this was it was a political contest, it 398 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 1: was close, and uh, this isn't the first one. Look 399 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 1: at them with with Bush and Gore and Florida and 400 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:44,359 Speaker 1: all a bunch of cry babies. And they made the 401 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:48,240 Speaker 1: whole movie about recount on HBO and it's total nonsense. 402 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:52,200 Speaker 1: Every recount that ever happened, they lost. And yet it 403 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:54,560 Speaker 1: just can't let it go. You know, I let it 404 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:57,080 Speaker 1: when Obama won twice. I wasn't like, oh, you know, 405 00:23:57,160 --> 00:23:59,920 Speaker 1: he cheated. It's okay, Obama won twice. Now we gotta 406 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:03,800 Speaker 1: of the Obama's president. That's just the deal. Yeah. But 407 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:06,600 Speaker 1: the only thing is if the regular people didn't get 408 00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 1: to decide any of that, that was all decided before 409 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:13,320 Speaker 1: we ever went to the polls. And and I'm if 410 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:15,840 Speaker 1: the Russians had anything to do with us getting Trump, 411 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 1: I'm all for it. The other thing is if the 412 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:22,920 Speaker 1: if the Democrats keep obstructing, they don't give to two 413 00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 1: craps about us, They just care about themselves. And if 414 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:29,840 Speaker 1: they continue with that, I would like to see everybody 415 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:34,040 Speaker 1: that voted for Trump switched to a Democrat party and 416 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 1: in the next elections vote against every incumbent there is 417 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:42,440 Speaker 1: and get rid of them. Because there's enough. There's enough 418 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 1: Republicans have voted for Trump that if we switched to Democrats, 419 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:49,840 Speaker 1: we could get those hard heads out of office. And 420 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:53,000 Speaker 1: that's that's why I feel all right, Jim, thank you 421 00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:56,480 Speaker 1: very much for calling in. So since you're you're telling 422 00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:58,800 Speaker 1: me you're sick of Russian I agree with you. Why 423 00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:02,800 Speaker 1: don't we talk about Ukraine? That sounds like fun. It's 424 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:08,960 Speaker 1: nearby neighbor formerly part of the Soviet Union. People used 425 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:11,320 Speaker 1: to say all the time the Ukraine, but now have 426 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:13,879 Speaker 1: learned that it's in fact just Ukraine. I had a 427 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:17,399 Speaker 1: Ukrainian friend in d C and she told me to 428 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:19,680 Speaker 1: stop saying the Ukraine because I used to say that too. 429 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 1: So it's just Ukraine, which means borderland. And it's an 430 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:28,120 Speaker 1: interesting uh well. The the back and forth between who 431 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:33,359 Speaker 1: controls Ukraine and whether it's under the dominion of Moscow 432 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:36,080 Speaker 1: or if it's on its own. It is a fascinating 433 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:40,000 Speaker 1: history here. They also had the third most or third 434 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:42,680 Speaker 1: or fourth most nuclear weapons in the world after the 435 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:44,239 Speaker 1: fall of the Soviet Union because a lot of them 436 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:47,160 Speaker 1: were in Ukraine's very large and they gave them up 437 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:50,520 Speaker 1: in what was known as the Budapest Memorandum and or 438 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:53,199 Speaker 1: the Budapest Agreement, and that said that the US, the 439 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:59,639 Speaker 1: UK and yes, Russia would protect Ukraine and its territorial integrity. 440 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:02,359 Speaker 1: So was basically like, don't worry, man, give us your nukes. 441 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:05,000 Speaker 1: We totes got your back. Nothing bad is going to 442 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:07,719 Speaker 1: happen to you, but definitely give up your nukes. They 443 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:11,480 Speaker 1: gave up their nukes, and fast forward a couple of decades, 444 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:16,560 Speaker 1: Russia is carving up pieces of Ukraine and taking Crimea 445 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:19,800 Speaker 1: and causing all kinds of problems. So there's been some 446 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:21,920 Speaker 1: very nasty back and forth. Ukraine is also, by the way, 447 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:27,000 Speaker 1: where you had that that poisoning, that dioxin poisoning incident, 448 00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:30,480 Speaker 1: where you had this h this young this younger politician 449 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:34,520 Speaker 1: who was up for up for I think real election 450 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:36,240 Speaker 1: of the time. I'm forgetting this is like fifth We're 451 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:39,160 Speaker 1: going back now many years and that he got poisoned 452 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:43,480 Speaker 1: and it left him very scarred. Uh. But the Ukraine 453 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:47,120 Speaker 1: is a battlefield, a political battle field between the West, 454 00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:51,359 Speaker 1: the US, NATO and Russia. And Russia views Ukraine is 455 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:56,720 Speaker 1: very necessary, uh buffer state really as a necessary buffer 456 00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:59,880 Speaker 1: state between everybody else in Russia. And so they want 457 00:26:59,880 --> 00:27:02,000 Speaker 1: to they want a client state, they want a friendly state, 458 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:04,560 Speaker 1: they want something along lines of Belarus, which is another 459 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:09,000 Speaker 1: small former Soviet country that's very cozy with Moscow on 460 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:14,720 Speaker 1: their borders. They don't want NATO aligned pro Western you know, 461 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:18,320 Speaker 1: democratic ideals and value states on their border because they 462 00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:22,120 Speaker 1: view it as a threat to their own territorial integrity. Now, 463 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:25,719 Speaker 1: from our perspective, we're like, why we would never invade Russia. 464 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:28,240 Speaker 1: From the Russian perspective, it's, oh, really, we used to 465 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:30,119 Speaker 1: have this whole thing called the Soviet Union, which was 466 00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:32,840 Speaker 1: a lot bigger, and then a whole bunch of that 467 00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:37,560 Speaker 1: got picked off because of our collapse. So you know, 468 00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:40,120 Speaker 1: it's all a question of perspective, your folks. And in fact, 469 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 1: if you go back to the geo strategists like mckinder 470 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:49,360 Speaker 1: at the turn of the or the early twentieth century, uh, 471 00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:54,680 Speaker 1: Russia is defined by territorial by its vastness, but also 472 00:27:54,720 --> 00:28:00,119 Speaker 1: its territorial insecurity, meaning that it is not bordered by 473 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:03,600 Speaker 1: land boundaries or or not not bordered by by water 474 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:07,160 Speaker 1: or or land boundaries like like mountain ranges. Really Russia 475 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:11,000 Speaker 1: is just bordered by enemy states all around. We never 476 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:12,399 Speaker 1: think of it this way, right, you know, who are 477 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:15,680 Speaker 1: our borders? Canada love you Canada, you're like our You're 478 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:19,280 Speaker 1: like our brother up north with maple syrup and lots 479 00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:23,399 Speaker 1: of good hockey teams. You know, Mexico, warm relations between 480 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:25,400 Speaker 1: the US and Mexico. I mean we got we got 481 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:27,960 Speaker 1: a problem sometimes, the whole drug trafficking thing and everything. 482 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,159 Speaker 1: I get that, but you know, overall pretty and then 483 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:31,919 Speaker 1: to our east and west, we got big oceans. Right, 484 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:35,239 Speaker 1: that's helpful. Geography is destiny. It well, at least it's 485 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:42,720 Speaker 1: part of destiny. It matters. Russia has Japan, China, the 486 00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:46,120 Speaker 1: Middle East, and Europe. Those are its neighbors, those are 487 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:50,680 Speaker 1: its borders. So there's a there's a psychological territorial insecurity 488 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 1: at the heart of Russian foreign policy and geo strategy. 489 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 1: And you know, while we think of them as because 490 00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:01,760 Speaker 1: in recent well in the World War two and post era, 491 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:07,640 Speaker 1: Russia and with its enhanced industrialization and vast, vast size 492 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:11,560 Speaker 1: and population, became a major military superpower. But before that, 493 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:13,480 Speaker 1: I mean Russia used to get you know, he used 494 00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:16,360 Speaker 1: to get picked off and carved up to Russians were 495 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:20,080 Speaker 1: fighting against the Russians were fighting against the Swedes. Yeah, 496 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:21,640 Speaker 1: I believe it or not. The Swedes. At one point 497 00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:23,680 Speaker 1: the Russians really going at after each other in the 498 00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:26,200 Speaker 1: time of Peter the Great, which if you're looking for 499 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:30,200 Speaker 1: an excellent biography to read this summer, Robert Massey's biography 500 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:33,440 Speaker 1: of Peter the Great is fantastic, and it starts off 501 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 1: with like, uh, palace coup, young Peter, the guards that 502 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:41,400 Speaker 1: he knew and grew up with, and like the Tutors. 503 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:43,400 Speaker 1: It's very game of thrones. They're like getting like ripped 504 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:45,400 Speaker 1: apart in the palace. I mean, it's crazy. You gotta 505 00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:47,160 Speaker 1: you gotta read the you gotta read it. It's really 506 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:51,320 Speaker 1: it's really compelling stuff. But the Swedes, like, I mean, 507 00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:54,720 Speaker 1: there were actually a very serious military power at the time. 508 00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:57,240 Speaker 1: We don't think of it that way now, but dude, 509 00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:00,760 Speaker 1: the Vikings, remember they were pretty pretty intense. They were 510 00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:03,640 Speaker 1: legit back in the day. And so the Russians have 511 00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:06,000 Speaker 1: fought against that. They've been fighting against the Swedes and 512 00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:12,000 Speaker 1: against the invading step nomadic people's like the Mongols and uh, 513 00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:14,840 Speaker 1: you know, the Tatars, and you know they fought wars 514 00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:16,800 Speaker 1: with Japan and China. I mean, you just you go, 515 00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:20,000 Speaker 1: there's there, they're fighting everybody all the time. That's Russian 516 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:24,000 Speaker 1: history has always been a series of of of border 517 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,800 Speaker 1: battles and territories gained in territories loss. That's just the 518 00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:28,320 Speaker 1: way that it's that's where they've been. You can say 519 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:29,880 Speaker 1: that's true a lot of European states too, I know. 520 00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:33,000 Speaker 1: But Russia is huge, so it's coming into contact not 521 00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:36,880 Speaker 1: just with neighbors, but with different civilizations. So Ukraine is 522 00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:38,400 Speaker 1: in the middle of as And why am I telling 523 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:41,160 Speaker 1: about Ukraine? Well, maybe because there was a story that 524 00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:43,080 Speaker 1: probably the folks who wrote it didn't think would be 525 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:45,680 Speaker 1: quite as relevant when they did. But a story about 526 00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:50,480 Speaker 1: a Democrat operative running around in Ukraine trying to help 527 00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:54,480 Speaker 1: the Hillary campaign, working with the Ukrainian government, working with 528 00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:59,160 Speaker 1: in fact our own embassy, and doing all kinds of 529 00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:01,960 Speaker 1: crazy stuff over there that you would think would be 530 00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:08,480 Speaker 1: an issue, you would think maybe would cause um, cause 531 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:12,120 Speaker 1: some some problems. I'm sorry, working in the Ukrainian embassy, 532 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:14,880 Speaker 1: I should say here in this country, I'll give you, 533 00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:16,920 Speaker 1: I'll give you the details. I'll give you all the details. 534 00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:28,480 Speaker 1: In Ohio on w M. A. N. Hey, Larry Yello Yellow, Hey, 535 00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:33,360 Speaker 1: what's up? Hey buck? Enjoy your show? Thank you? Larry 536 00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:44,520 Speaker 1: uh uh Trump ration meeting to me a liberal media 537 00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:48,360 Speaker 1: and the Democrats are trying to make Chicken sell it 538 00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:54,200 Speaker 1: out a chicken excrement. There ain't nothing there. They had 539 00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:57,280 Speaker 1: a meeting, a big deal. What come out of it 540 00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:01,160 Speaker 1: as far as we know now, though something may develop 541 00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:06,280 Speaker 1: you know next week. Nothing. Yeah, I don't. I don't 542 00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:10,600 Speaker 1: see what I'm struggling to see how unless you think 543 00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:12,920 Speaker 1: that this is just the beginning of a lot more. 544 00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:17,440 Speaker 1: If this is all there is, then what's the big problem? 545 00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:19,640 Speaker 1: I mean, I I do wish that we wouldn't have 546 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:22,840 Speaker 1: to hear more about the meeting from people other than 547 00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:24,640 Speaker 1: those who are at the meeting. I wish that they 548 00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:27,120 Speaker 1: would come clean. I think that's and come clean is 549 00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:29,160 Speaker 1: maybe not the right. I just wish they would have 550 00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:32,000 Speaker 1: full disclosure about the meeting so that we wouldn't have 551 00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:34,520 Speaker 1: to suffer through more days of a new cycle where 552 00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:37,760 Speaker 1: the media gets to determine what we all get to 553 00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:41,840 Speaker 1: see and read and think about. You know what, Lynch 554 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:45,440 Speaker 1: is the one that extended or visas. To me what 555 00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:48,440 Speaker 1: I've heard, she was in here on a temporary visa 556 00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:52,680 Speaker 1: for like ninety days or whatever, and when it was 557 00:32:52,760 --> 00:33:00,600 Speaker 1: up already, Lynch extended it for well, however long I 558 00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:03,440 Speaker 1: just don't understand. Also the motivation for this woman vesseling 559 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:09,760 Speaker 1: that Skaya to uh to lie about having information so 560 00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:12,360 Speaker 1: that she could push them on the Magnetsky Act. I 561 00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:18,240 Speaker 1: mean that just seems what Magna Magnetski Act allows for sanction. 562 00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:20,600 Speaker 1: It's it's sanctions on people that are human rights that 563 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:25,440 Speaker 1: that are human rights abusers in Russia. So you know, 564 00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:28,120 Speaker 1: and and it means that people's assets can be seized. 565 00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:30,800 Speaker 1: And but you know, you're right, Larry, I should do 566 00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:33,040 Speaker 1: a deeper die for everybody on the Magnetski Act. So 567 00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:34,600 Speaker 1: we kind of know it's it's for this guy who 568 00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:37,640 Speaker 1: exposed corruption. You know, this is a big thing. And Larry, 569 00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:39,840 Speaker 1: thank you for calling in shieldside. I mean, corruption in 570 00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:43,760 Speaker 1: Russia is the way that business is done. As I 571 00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:47,600 Speaker 1: said before, it is it is an evolving mafia state. Uh. 572 00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:55,040 Speaker 1: And the government's control of and attachments and interests in 573 00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:59,000 Speaker 1: private well I shouldn't they're not really private businesses, but 574 00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:06,640 Speaker 1: but in business, um they are uh omnipresent. So there's 575 00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:09,000 Speaker 1: a lot of Russian government activity and a lot of 576 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:12,600 Speaker 1: the businesses and vice versa. UM. And that means that 577 00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:16,000 Speaker 1: you're going to have all kinds of crossover. So I 578 00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:22,040 Speaker 1: just don't see. Oh with Magnisicilo and and the corruption issue, 579 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:25,360 Speaker 1: people have been exposing this, and there have been some 580 00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:29,920 Speaker 1: very brave individuals who will write, uh you know, who 581 00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:32,920 Speaker 1: have written blogs about Russian government corruption. I mean, there 582 00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:36,960 Speaker 1: are government officials that are just just stealing everything they 583 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:40,799 Speaker 1: can and living lavish lifestyles, and they're on salaries that 584 00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:44,440 Speaker 1: are you know, public servant salaries. So it shouldn't be 585 00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:47,680 Speaker 1: a situation where you have all of this, Uh, we 586 00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:49,359 Speaker 1: shouldn't be a situation where where you have all these 587 00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:53,040 Speaker 1: wealthy government employees. I mean Putin himself, I think his 588 00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:55,560 Speaker 1: estimate to be worth in the billions of dollars, which 589 00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:58,160 Speaker 1: like what what business did putin start? Oh, that's right, 590 00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:02,879 Speaker 1: he's just he just runs Russia and incredibly wealthy as 591 00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:05,919 Speaker 1: a as a result of it. Um. But I just 592 00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:09,279 Speaker 1: don't really I'm gonna keep following this. I want to 593 00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:11,080 Speaker 1: talk about this Ukraine story. Let me get into it 594 00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:12,840 Speaker 1: a little bit now, and maybe I'll finish it on 595 00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:15,160 Speaker 1: the other side here, because I was hoping to kind 596 00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:17,719 Speaker 1: of wait and get into it, uh in a full 597 00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:19,840 Speaker 1: fledged fashion in the next hour. But we've got some 598 00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:22,440 Speaker 1: time Now this is a political piece. Okay, So we've 599 00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:25,600 Speaker 1: been hearing a lot about Russia and Trump and collusion 600 00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:30,560 Speaker 1: all this stuff. This was back in January of this year, 601 00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:37,200 Speaker 1: so seven months ago. Ish Um, here's what was written 602 00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:45,200 Speaker 1: by Politico. Then, Ukrainian efforts to sabotage Trump backfire. keV 603 00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:48,960 Speaker 1: officials are scrambling to make amends with the president elect 604 00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:53,759 Speaker 1: after they quietly, after quietly working to boost Clinton. Let's 605 00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:56,560 Speaker 1: just let that. Let that sit there for a second. Wait, wait, 606 00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:58,920 Speaker 1: hold on a minute. What what what do you mean a 607 00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:03,880 Speaker 1: foreign government was quietly working to help Hillary Clinton. Well, 608 00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:06,280 Speaker 1: I thought that was the worst thing ever. I thought 609 00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:10,520 Speaker 1: that the interference in our election was devaluing and destroying 610 00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:14,279 Speaker 1: our most sacred institutions, That that our whole democratic processes 611 00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:20,279 Speaker 1: could be called into doubt because of a foreign government's 612 00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:24,280 Speaker 1: intrusion into our election in some way, just even intruding 613 00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:26,960 Speaker 1: on the conversation, not actually even hacking and changing votes 614 00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:30,759 Speaker 1: or anything. So I'm so I'm so confused everyone, What 615 00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:35,560 Speaker 1: what is this all about? Here's some of the detail. Quote. 616 00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:39,840 Speaker 1: Donald Trump wasn't the only presidential candidate whose campaign was 617 00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:44,319 Speaker 1: boosted by officials of a former Soviet bloc country. Ukrainian 618 00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:48,400 Speaker 1: government officials tried to help Hillary Clinton and undermined Trump 619 00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:53,640 Speaker 1: by publicly questioning his fitness for office. They also disseminated 620 00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:58,759 Speaker 1: documents implicating a top Trump aid in corruption and suggested 621 00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:01,760 Speaker 1: they were investigating them at her only to back away 622 00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:07,080 Speaker 1: after the election, and they helped Clinton's allies research damaging 623 00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:11,880 Speaker 1: information on Trump and his advisors. A political investigation found 624 00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:16,480 Speaker 1: a Ukrainian American operative who was consulting for the Democratic 625 00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:20,360 Speaker 1: National Committee met with top officials in the Ukrainian embassy 626 00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:24,200 Speaker 1: in Washington in an effort to expose ties between Trump 627 00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:27,840 Speaker 1: top campaign aide Paul Manafort, and Russia. According to people 628 00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:32,239 Speaker 1: with direct knowledge, the Ukrainian efforts had an impact in 629 00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:36,520 Speaker 1: the race, helping to force metaforts resignation and advancing the 630 00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:39,799 Speaker 1: narrative that Trump's campaign was deeply connected to Ukraine's photo 631 00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:42,920 Speaker 1: to the east Russia. But they were far less concerned, 632 00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:45,799 Speaker 1: essentially directed, than the Russia's alleged hacking and dissemination of 633 00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:52,520 Speaker 1: democratic emails. So, based on this reporting, a forward government 634 00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:57,759 Speaker 1: Ukraine and a Democrat operative working who for the d 635 00:37:57,880 --> 00:37:59,560 Speaker 1: n C with deep ties to the d n C, 636 00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:05,479 Speaker 1: we're working together to smear Trump people and to get 637 00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:09,000 Speaker 1: bad info about Trump. Wait, wait, wait, wait, what's going on? 638 00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:14,400 Speaker 1: I'll tell you more. Stay with me. He's holding the 639 00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:21,600 Speaker 1: line for America, Buck Sexton his back. So Ukraine is 640 00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:25,520 Speaker 1: now back in the headlines because there was an effort 641 00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:31,160 Speaker 1: to work with some Ukrainian government officials and journalists by 642 00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:36,640 Speaker 1: a d n C Democratic National Committee operative to help 643 00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:40,640 Speaker 1: Hillary and hurt Trump, which I am just so surprised. 644 00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:43,399 Speaker 1: Why is this okay? I just want to know. Let 645 00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:45,640 Speaker 1: me read to you from this political piece. Let's let's 646 00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:48,239 Speaker 1: break this down, walk through this together. I will talk 647 00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:49,880 Speaker 1: to you later this hour, by the way, about that 648 00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:54,800 Speaker 1: piece on feminism, or rather a piece by a feminist 649 00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:58,839 Speaker 1: writer who is afraid of her own sons because their 650 00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:02,680 Speaker 1: male is. That's the short version of a much longer 651 00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:06,080 Speaker 1: and more more troubling piece than I can express right now. 652 00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:08,680 Speaker 1: But I wanted to walk through this with you. And 653 00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:11,440 Speaker 1: by the way, eight four four n eight to five 654 00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:13,960 Speaker 1: eight four Buck, if you have some thoughts on the show, 655 00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:17,400 Speaker 1: would love to hear from you, um, anything that's on 656 00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:19,640 Speaker 1: your mind. 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Um quote from this piece 664 00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:44,880 Speaker 1: Politico back in July of this year on and by 665 00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:48,360 Speaker 1: the way, the when you type this into Google, Ukraine 666 00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:51,759 Speaker 1: sabotage Trump backfire is what comes up in the u R. 667 00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:55,480 Speaker 1: I'll address that pretty much. Sums it up, Ukraine sabotage 668 00:39:55,520 --> 00:40:00,360 Speaker 1: Trump backfire. But wait, I thought foreign interference in aer election, 669 00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:02,160 Speaker 1: and then you know what they're gonna say, and they 670 00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:03,600 Speaker 1: say it in his piece, so I just want to 671 00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:06,200 Speaker 1: get to it right away. Oh but it wasn't as serious, 672 00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:08,239 Speaker 1: it wasn't as severe, it didn't do as much. Well, 673 00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:11,120 Speaker 1: is it is it about the outcome? Because we're all 674 00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:14,240 Speaker 1: now supposed to complain about a meeting where no valuable 675 00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:17,359 Speaker 1: or or important information was exchanged. So it was just 676 00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:21,640 Speaker 1: the fact that there was this effort, right, but nothing happened. Well, 677 00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:24,400 Speaker 1: if there was an effort from a d N c 678 00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:27,000 Speaker 1: operative to work with the Ukrainian with people from the 679 00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:30,759 Speaker 1: Ukrainian government, then it isn't that just as unethical and 680 00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:33,880 Speaker 1: I don't think either as criminal, but and we all 681 00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:37,840 Speaker 1: should be very uh slow to think that, you know, 682 00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:42,280 Speaker 1: asking questions or being willing to receive information is itself 683 00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:46,160 Speaker 1: a criminal thing only in very specific and limited circumstances. 684 00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:48,200 Speaker 1: But people, of course, if they have an opportunity to 685 00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:52,160 Speaker 1: criminalize their political opponents in this country, now everyone jumps 686 00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:56,640 Speaker 1: at it far too quickly, particularly Democrats. So this political 687 00:40:56,680 --> 00:41:00,520 Speaker 1: piece Ukraine sabotage trump backfire in the U R U 688 00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:02,920 Speaker 1: r L when you type it into uh into Google. 689 00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:09,040 Speaker 1: Here's what it says. A daughter of Ukrainian immigrants who 690 00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:12,680 Speaker 1: maintain strong ties to the Ukrainian American diaspora and the 691 00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:19,239 Speaker 1: US Embassy in Ukraine, h Alexandra Chalupa, a lawyer by 692 00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:22,800 Speaker 1: training in was doing pro bono work for another client 693 00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:27,799 Speaker 1: interested in the Ukrainian crisis and began researching Manafort's role 694 00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:31,040 Speaker 1: in yannikovich Is rise, as well as his ties to 695 00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:34,799 Speaker 1: the pro Russian oligarchs who funded yannikovich Is political party. Okay, 696 00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:37,360 Speaker 1: so we're talking about Ukraine now, the political situation Ukraine. 697 00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:41,040 Speaker 1: You have this d n C operative Chalupa, which, as 698 00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:42,520 Speaker 1: an aside, I just had to ask my team here 699 00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:45,560 Speaker 1: to make sure I'm not crazy. Um At Chalupa is 700 00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:48,560 Speaker 1: a I wasn't sure, but a chupa is a fried 701 00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:52,840 Speaker 1: tortilla that that you usually has a spicy meat filling. 702 00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:54,480 Speaker 1: Just as an aside, I was like, isn't it a 703 00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:56,399 Speaker 1: chalupa of food? And they're like, yeah, chalupa is a food. 704 00:41:56,400 --> 00:42:00,759 Speaker 1: But this is this woman's last name. Chalupa um uh 705 00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:03,000 Speaker 1: a sexton for those of you who may or may 706 00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:04,520 Speaker 1: not know as the person who takes care of a 707 00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:09,880 Speaker 1: church and and actually sometimes is in charge of digging 708 00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:13,000 Speaker 1: the graves or taking care of the graves. So you know, 709 00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:14,640 Speaker 1: we have last I have a last name that has 710 00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:18,520 Speaker 1: a meaning too. But anyway, this woman, Alexander Chalupa is 711 00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:22,080 Speaker 1: in doing her stuff in Ukraine. And here's what she 712 00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:25,440 Speaker 1: tells Politico. Remember this is before we knew what we 713 00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:28,720 Speaker 1: know now about publicly about all the Russia collusion stuff, 714 00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:31,399 Speaker 1: so they were willing to tell this and probably didn't 715 00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:33,919 Speaker 1: see what the long term consequences would be. In an 716 00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:38,040 Speaker 1: interview this month, Chalupa told Politico she had developed a 717 00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:43,080 Speaker 1: network of sources in Kiev and Washington, including member Kieva's 718 00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:48,800 Speaker 1: capital of Ukraine, including investigative journalists, government officials, and private 719 00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:52,840 Speaker 1: intelligence operatives. While her consulting work at the d n 720 00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:56,879 Speaker 1: C this past election cycle centered on mobilizing ethnic communities, 721 00:42:57,320 --> 00:43:01,960 Speaker 1: including Ukrainian Americans, she said at when Trump's unlikely presidential 722 00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:06,960 Speaker 1: campaign began surging in late she began focusing more on 723 00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:11,320 Speaker 1: the research and expanded it to include Trump's ties to 724 00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:17,560 Speaker 1: Russia as well. She occasionally shared her findings with officials 725 00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:23,000 Speaker 1: from the d n C and Clinton's campaign. Okay, let's 726 00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:26,759 Speaker 1: just all right, class, let's review, shall we. D n 727 00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:34,120 Speaker 1: C affiliated and paid person is running around developing Ukrainian 728 00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:39,120 Speaker 1: sources both in the US and in Ukraine, including government 729 00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:44,799 Speaker 1: officials in Ukraine. And she is trying to get bad 730 00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:50,360 Speaker 1: info on our derogatory information OPPO research on Paul Metaphort. 731 00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:57,160 Speaker 1: Paul Manaford is the campaign chairman of the Trump presidential effort. 732 00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:01,719 Speaker 1: So what I'm what am I miss? So? So vez 733 00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:05,000 Speaker 1: al Nitskaya is like, Hey, I've got APPA research on Hillary. 734 00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:07,560 Speaker 1: Will you take a meeting with me? And campaign people 735 00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:10,920 Speaker 1: sit down with her and and you know Trump is 736 00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:13,279 Speaker 1: Trump is now a trader and oh my gosh, the 737 00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:16,680 Speaker 1: country has been taken over by a Russian, a Russian 738 00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:19,759 Speaker 1: agent and all this other stuff. But a d n 739 00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:24,160 Speaker 1: C operative it was running around Ukraine, asking the Ukrainian 740 00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:28,200 Speaker 1: government and doing all kinds of stuff trying to get 741 00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:32,400 Speaker 1: opposition information on Trump and Maniford. And that's just fine. 742 00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:36,680 Speaker 1: Why is that just fine? Because it wasn't as effective 743 00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:40,440 Speaker 1: as the as the Russian effort to Uh well, is 744 00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:44,279 Speaker 1: this about principle and rule of law and the sanctity 745 00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:47,840 Speaker 1: of our democratic institutions or is this just about well, 746 00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:49,560 Speaker 1: when you do it, it's bad, but when I do 747 00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:53,440 Speaker 1: it it's good. I don't know, you tell me. So 748 00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:56,799 Speaker 1: she's sharing her information, and this woman Chilopa shares it 749 00:44:56,840 --> 00:45:02,319 Speaker 1: with Hillary's campaign directly, and she is uh involved with 750 00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:06,000 Speaker 1: a number of different journalists and and all kinds of folks. 751 00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:10,600 Speaker 1: Oh this also should um note that she shared concern 752 00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:13,680 Speaker 1: she had with Ukraine's ambassador to the US and one 753 00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:16,759 Speaker 1: of his top aids during a March meeting at the 754 00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:20,880 Speaker 1: Ukrainian embassy. This is about Trump and his associate Paul Manafort, 755 00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:25,000 Speaker 1: according to someone brief from the meeting, and uh. Manafort 756 00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:27,160 Speaker 1: was very much on the ambassador's radar, but he wasn't 757 00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:30,440 Speaker 1: particularly concerned about the operatives ties to Trump since he 758 00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:32,960 Speaker 1: didn't believe Trump stood much a chance of winning the 759 00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:38,160 Speaker 1: GOP nomination, let alone the presidency um. While the embassy 760 00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:41,759 Speaker 1: declined that decline that request, officials there became helpful and 761 00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:46,280 Speaker 1: helpful in Cholupa's efforts, she said, explaining she traded information 762 00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:48,719 Speaker 1: and leads with them. If I asked a question, they 763 00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:52,880 Speaker 1: would provide uh guidance or if there was someone I 764 00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:58,040 Speaker 1: needed to follow up with. Oh okay. So also the 765 00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:03,200 Speaker 1: Ukrainian embassy helps her out and provides her with information 766 00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:06,880 Speaker 1: and sources. That's his official government. As official government's going 767 00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:08,680 Speaker 1: to get right when when you're working with someone in 768 00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:12,960 Speaker 1: the embassy, that's that that is the literal manifestation the 769 00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:18,719 Speaker 1: the actual representatives of that government in that country. So 770 00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:22,279 Speaker 1: this is ok This is okay, Now I understand it. 771 00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:26,360 Speaker 1: Didn't you know she didn't get manaforts emails and and 772 00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:28,680 Speaker 1: wiki leaks didn't release them, and you know that that 773 00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:32,440 Speaker 1: didn't happen. But is the problem just trying because I 774 00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:36,200 Speaker 1: was hearing about attempted collusion earlier in the week which 775 00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:38,400 Speaker 1: I was saying, what does that even mean? But if 776 00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:41,680 Speaker 1: if attempted collusion is a thing, isn't this thing in 777 00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:45,759 Speaker 1: Ukraine that the Democrats were involved in, isn't that also 778 00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:50,239 Speaker 1: attempted collusion? So they're either both bad or neither is bad. 779 00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:51,920 Speaker 1: I actually would take the point of view I should 780 00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:54,920 Speaker 1: know that that probably both of them are not, you know, 781 00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:58,040 Speaker 1: and and politics really and I'm also somebody who really 782 00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:00,319 Speaker 1: disagrees with a lot of campaign finance laws, and I, 783 00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:04,320 Speaker 1: you know, I think politics you want to stop pretending 784 00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:05,879 Speaker 1: you can control what you can't control with a lot 785 00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:07,800 Speaker 1: of this stuff. And if people are trying to get information, 786 00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:10,520 Speaker 1: you know they're gonna get up one way or another. 787 00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:13,560 Speaker 1: And yeah, I don't know. Um, I think it's I 788 00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:15,480 Speaker 1: think politics of the Wild West, my friends. You know, 789 00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:18,440 Speaker 1: it's it's in every man and woman for himself kind 790 00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:22,120 Speaker 1: of situation. So I I don't understand why we're all 791 00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:26,040 Speaker 1: supposed to think that politics is run by boy scouts. Now, 792 00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:29,680 Speaker 1: it's not the quote, I mean, it's not the reality now, 793 00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:34,120 Speaker 1: and it's certainly wasn't the reality in this whole exchange. Um. So, anyway, 794 00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:37,919 Speaker 1: this woman was working doing oppo research looking into all this, 795 00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:41,839 Speaker 1: and yeah, it's not something that the media is talking 796 00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:44,839 Speaker 1: about this week, really, and I know that the way 797 00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:46,879 Speaker 1: they try to shut down this discussion is to say 798 00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:51,239 Speaker 1: that this Ukrainian remember Ukraine sabotage, Trump backfire is what 799 00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:53,240 Speaker 1: is in the U r L of this piece on Politico. 800 00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:56,200 Speaker 1: So those are the key those are the key words 801 00:47:56,239 --> 00:48:00,759 Speaker 1: that Google pulls up for you, Ukraine sabotage, Trump backfire. H. 802 00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:03,560 Speaker 1: But we're supposed to believe that Russia collusion was a 803 00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:06,000 Speaker 1: terrible thing. So what it really comes down to, I 804 00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:08,480 Speaker 1: guess is the Russia collusion is so terrible because maybe 805 00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:12,120 Speaker 1: it actually did help Trump, whereas that the Democrat Ukraine 806 00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:15,760 Speaker 1: collusion is no big deal because it did it didn't work. 807 00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:19,759 Speaker 1: It didn't work. That's it. That's really the But that's 808 00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:22,080 Speaker 1: not an ethical difference, right, that's not a moral difference. 809 00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:25,920 Speaker 1: That's just an efficacy difference. That's just and how effective 810 00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:29,120 Speaker 1: was this, which is not how we should be judging this, right. 811 00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:35,280 Speaker 1: So I just I find all of this very very intriguing, friends, 812 00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:38,200 Speaker 1: very intriguing. Indeed, Melon California, I heart app. What's up 813 00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:43,000 Speaker 1: are you? Buck? I'm all right? Thanks for calling in. Yeah, well, 814 00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:45,399 Speaker 1: thank you for I I just discovered you were on 815 00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:48,279 Speaker 1: the line or on the phone now because I hear 816 00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:54,000 Speaker 1: you on our station that from nine to midnight and 817 00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:56,440 Speaker 1: I can never get it get you, but yeah, I 818 00:48:56,520 --> 00:48:58,160 Speaker 1: heard at man get me live. Every day. Just go 819 00:48:58,239 --> 00:48:59,840 Speaker 1: to I Heart app and type in buck Sexton with 820 00:48:59,880 --> 00:49:03,000 Speaker 1: a N. Now it's a party. Yeah, but you have 821 00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:06,799 Speaker 1: to have a computer to do that. You're a smartphone. Yeah, 822 00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:09,279 Speaker 1: I'm an old guy and into all that stuff, but 823 00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:14,160 Speaker 1: I'm actually talking to you from a landline. Um. But anyway, UM, 824 00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:18,319 Speaker 1: I really appreciate your discussions. You're a young guy, but 825 00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:21,640 Speaker 1: you have a better discussion and at a better pace 826 00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:26,320 Speaker 1: of speech. And so that's enough of that for the compliments. 827 00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:30,239 Speaker 1: But you know, I really believe and if we read 828 00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:34,160 Speaker 1: our constitution, you know, if you're legal, you can be 829 00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:37,759 Speaker 1: an immigrant. If you're illegal, you're calling an invader. It's 830 00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:41,480 Speaker 1: an Article one, section eight, across fifteen. If people don't 831 00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:43,960 Speaker 1: want to read, well, we can't help that. And then 832 00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:47,880 Speaker 1: it's an article four, section four that the United States 833 00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:52,520 Speaker 1: Government shall protect every state in the Union from invasion. 834 00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:57,279 Speaker 1: And in California here they voted communists, they went for 835 00:49:57,400 --> 00:49:59,960 Speaker 1: a total Well, we're on our way to total gun 836 00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:05,480 Speaker 1: control here. And yet Article three, Section one of the 837 00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:09,120 Speaker 1: California State Constitution, because that we're part of the union, 838 00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:13,399 Speaker 1: and the US Constitution is the supreme law of the land, 839 00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:16,920 Speaker 1: which I assume includes the Second Amendment. Do you have 840 00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:22,360 Speaker 1: any comments about that, comments about why the supremacy clause 841 00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:24,279 Speaker 1: and the Constitution is violated when it comes to the 842 00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:27,920 Speaker 1: Second Amendment. Well, I don't know what the supremacy clause is. 843 00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:31,160 Speaker 1: I've never read that in there, but I mean, the 844 00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:34,359 Speaker 1: Second Amendment is part of our you know, we who 845 00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:39,279 Speaker 1: fought for this country have been disarmed. Well, I mean 846 00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:45,560 Speaker 1: this is so I thought we were talking borders. Um. 847 00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:48,440 Speaker 1: But by the way, this is the supremacy clause. Article 848 00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:52,160 Speaker 1: our Article six clause to establish the Constitution, federal laws 849 00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:54,000 Speaker 1: made pursue it to it, and treaties made under its 850 00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:57,480 Speaker 1: authority constitute the supreme law of the land. So the 851 00:50:57,480 --> 00:50:59,800 Speaker 1: supremacy clause is just saying that that the federal federal 852 00:50:59,840 --> 00:51:05,239 Speaker 1: law overrides this overrides the state law. It's very simple, uh, 853 00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:08,320 Speaker 1: and straightforward application. But but but it doesn't. I'm sorry, thank you, 854 00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:13,120 Speaker 1: I said, thank you for that. I'll look that up. Yeah, um, 855 00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:17,239 Speaker 1: so it's just the supremis called supreme law, the lens 856 00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:21,600 Speaker 1: of federal law. So on the issue of borders, the 857 00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:24,680 Speaker 1: reason that we haven't had border enforcement is because we've 858 00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:27,120 Speaker 1: had two political parties that pretend to care about it 859 00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:29,600 Speaker 1: but don't really want to do it. Democrats don't want 860 00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:32,239 Speaker 1: to do it really at all. Republicans only kind of 861 00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:36,200 Speaker 1: sort of want to do it sometimes. But the donor 862 00:51:36,239 --> 00:51:40,160 Speaker 1: class of the Republican Party is very favorable towards a 863 00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:43,680 Speaker 1: constant flow of cheap labor because it's helpful for our 864 00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:47,439 Speaker 1: businesses and big businesses, especially in some industries that write 865 00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:50,040 Speaker 1: big checks. Big checks go to Republicans and go to 866 00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:53,200 Speaker 1: lobbyists that get Republicans in d C to do certain things. 867 00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:58,560 Speaker 1: So we we've had decades of lies about the border. 868 00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:01,560 Speaker 1: I mean, even Reagan went for an amnesty that within 869 00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:04,360 Speaker 1: a few years he realized was was a terrible idea 870 00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:07,200 Speaker 1: because you got the amnesty without the enforcement that was promised. 871 00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:09,399 Speaker 1: And the New York Times, believe it or not, at 872 00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:14,400 Speaker 1: one point was an advocate of border control and saying 873 00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:17,600 Speaker 1: that the pressure on wages of workers in this country 874 00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:21,480 Speaker 1: was was deleterious and and so you shouldn't allow there 875 00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:26,680 Speaker 1: to be unchecked immigration from particularly the developing world, because 876 00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:28,800 Speaker 1: you're gonna have all this pressure on wages. Now, The 877 00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:31,400 Speaker 1: New York Times in the post two thousand eras completely 878 00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:34,000 Speaker 1: changed its tune on that, as we know. But so 879 00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:36,080 Speaker 1: that's on on that and on on the Second Amendment. 880 00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:39,480 Speaker 1: The way that works is that there are different states, 881 00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:42,000 Speaker 1: meaning you know, why why doesn't the right to bear 882 00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:43,959 Speaker 1: arms mean that you have the right to bear arms? 883 00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:46,480 Speaker 1: You have states that just passed laws that pretend that 884 00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:49,799 Speaker 1: the Constitution is not there, or pretending rather the Second 885 00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:52,840 Speaker 1: Amendments not there. And there's illegal you know, there are 886 00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:55,440 Speaker 1: illegal processes that that people have to go through to 887 00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:58,560 Speaker 1: try and get that overturned. I mean, d d C v. 888 00:52:58,680 --> 00:53:01,560 Speaker 1: Heller made its way all the way up the Dream Court, um. 889 00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:04,320 Speaker 1: And there are people that just didn't want to accept 890 00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:05,719 Speaker 1: that the right to bear arms means the right to 891 00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:08,399 Speaker 1: bear arms. But Mel, actually I have to run into 892 00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:10,759 Speaker 1: a break here or so we're gonna miss our our 893 00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:14,000 Speaker 1: our spot. So I thank you for calling in. I 894 00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:16,080 Speaker 1: try to give you. That's a much longer, more instant 895 00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:18,640 Speaker 1: conversation than I can have right now. But interesting questions 896 00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:22,360 Speaker 1: running into a break eight four buck, I will be 897 00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:28,000 Speaker 1: back in just a few Stay with me. That NBC 898 00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:31,080 Speaker 1: News put out the story earlier today with this headline, 899 00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:34,880 Speaker 1: former Soviet counterintelligence officer attended meeting with Donald Trump Jr. 900 00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:39,360 Speaker 1: And Russian lawyer. There's some dispute over, uh, you know 901 00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:41,520 Speaker 1: who this guy is, and you know, what's an accurate 902 00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:44,200 Speaker 1: description of him? This additional person who was there. I 903 00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:46,200 Speaker 1: think there's also a translator there that is now the 904 00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:49,040 Speaker 1: eight people that were in the meeting. But you know, 905 00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:56,239 Speaker 1: I don't know why the Trump people keep telling things, 906 00:53:56,360 --> 00:53:58,120 Speaker 1: keep saying things that they're not accurate on this, I 907 00:53:58,160 --> 00:54:01,000 Speaker 1: think just makes it we're for them. I don't I 908 00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:04,400 Speaker 1: don't understand why why not just say that who was 909 00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:07,239 Speaker 1: in the meeting? And you know nothing happened. And there 910 00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:09,080 Speaker 1: are also reports, I don't know if they're confirmed yet 911 00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:11,000 Speaker 1: that there were some documents that were exchanged in the meeting, 912 00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:13,239 Speaker 1: but maybe there were nothing burger documents. I don't know. 913 00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:14,640 Speaker 1: I'm just going on what I can read here. I 914 00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:17,640 Speaker 1: wasn't in the room, you know, I I can't tell 915 00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:20,000 Speaker 1: you definitively one way or another how this meeting went. 916 00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:23,360 Speaker 1: But this whole thing is it's weird but not a 917 00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:25,440 Speaker 1: big deal is kind of how I would describe it 918 00:54:25,560 --> 00:54:28,480 Speaker 1: so far, which seems to be a common thing that 919 00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:31,239 Speaker 1: can happen in life. Devin and Georgia on the I 920 00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:37,480 Speaker 1: Heart app. What's up, Devin very fuck Uh yeah, man, 921 00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:40,680 Speaker 1: we can all hear you. Herry. I love the Showman, 922 00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:43,520 Speaker 1: specially especially new with congratulations with me though it's been 923 00:54:43,560 --> 00:54:47,440 Speaker 1: a while. Thank you very much. We're we going to 924 00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:49,359 Speaker 1: get you to move the hast of territory up there 925 00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:52,279 Speaker 1: in New York Man, move out of hostle territory. I 926 00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:56,080 Speaker 1: don't know, it's uh, I'm used to the fight, my friend. 927 00:54:56,080 --> 00:54:58,200 Speaker 1: I'm used to walking around here in the freedom struggle. 928 00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:02,520 Speaker 1: He um. One thing I wanted to say, it seems 929 00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:04,560 Speaker 1: to me like the press is almost joined one of 930 00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:06,719 Speaker 1: your female shows. Let's talking about how the Russians had 931 00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:09,919 Speaker 1: a program where they would be to take like, hey something. 932 00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:11,919 Speaker 1: He was in New York City at the same time 933 00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:14,279 Speaker 1: as such a b You know, we can't account for 934 00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:16,960 Speaker 1: where either ones would were for like three hours, so 935 00:55:17,160 --> 00:55:19,280 Speaker 1: we can't say that they didn't get each other against 936 00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:21,600 Speaker 1: at the shady but we can't say that it didn't happen. 937 00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:24,920 Speaker 1: You know what I've talked about who you're You're saying 938 00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:27,879 Speaker 1: that the press is running with theories that are not 939 00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:33,399 Speaker 1: not disproven but not proven. Yes, where it's like, hey, well, 940 00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:36,200 Speaker 1: we can't really say exactly what how did this case 941 00:55:36,239 --> 00:55:38,680 Speaker 1: with Tom Jeter? But it just kind of seems like 942 00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:41,120 Speaker 1: all the time, every couple of minutes they try to 943 00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:44,680 Speaker 1: find something. Hey, this person meant something that was shady, 944 00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:46,120 Speaker 1: So let's let us see what we can run with 945 00:55:46,120 --> 00:55:47,400 Speaker 1: this and see what we could get out of it 946 00:55:47,480 --> 00:55:49,279 Speaker 1: for a couple of minutes. Oh yeah, Well, I think 947 00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:50,960 Speaker 1: they roam with stories and then and then they do 948 00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:54,400 Speaker 1: analysis as a version. They roam with the story that 949 00:55:54,440 --> 00:55:57,319 Speaker 1: can be thinly sourced, and then they add analysis to 950 00:55:57,400 --> 00:56:00,200 Speaker 1: it to go even further with the story and not 951 00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:03,319 Speaker 1: having to provide the facts for But it's quote analysis. 952 00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:05,680 Speaker 1: News analysis is one of the most abused things you'll 953 00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:08,759 Speaker 1: see from these major organ major news organizations, because that's 954 00:56:08,760 --> 00:56:10,439 Speaker 1: just where they tell you what they think without having 955 00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:13,320 Speaker 1: to back it up. Really. Uh, And and the difference 956 00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:16,719 Speaker 1: in news analysis and editorial is non existent as far 957 00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:21,480 Speaker 1: as I'm concerned. But that's what I got, Devin. Anything else, Oh, 958 00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:23,400 Speaker 1: I had a movie quote for you. Let's see what 959 00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:29,239 Speaker 1: you got? Okay, your soul want I wanted to kill you, 960 00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:31,239 Speaker 1: but you took it too personally. Why can't you kill 961 00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:38,320 Speaker 1: yourself or just let it go? Mm hmm, I got nothing? 962 00:56:38,320 --> 00:56:45,760 Speaker 1: What is that? That's even the naughtiest movie face off? 963 00:56:47,080 --> 00:56:50,000 Speaker 1: Uh yeah, John Travolta says that to Nicholas Cage. I 964 00:56:50,040 --> 00:56:53,600 Speaker 1: remember now, Okay, okay, all right, you got me devon. 965 00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:55,520 Speaker 1: But thank you, thank you, Matt Shields, thank you very 966 00:56:55,600 --> 00:56:59,680 Speaker 1: much for calling in. Uh all right, we'll be taking 967 00:56:59,719 --> 00:57:01,360 Speaker 1: some more. I'll take some more that We've got a 968 00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:03,600 Speaker 1: lot of lines. Level take some calls after this this break, 969 00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:05,560 Speaker 1: and then I want to tell you about this this 970 00:57:05,680 --> 00:57:10,440 Speaker 1: piece on on feminism that is it is mind boggling, 971 00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:11,920 Speaker 1: and we'll talk about that coming up here. I mean, 972 00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:15,320 Speaker 1: a woman who's a writer, I suppose of some note, 973 00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:19,160 Speaker 1: is frightened of her own sons because they've been raised 974 00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:23,520 Speaker 1: in an America which is rape culture. Now. It's it's 975 00:57:23,560 --> 00:57:26,840 Speaker 1: just it's terrifying to read because I think that there 976 00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:30,360 Speaker 1: are more women who have been their minds have been 977 00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:38,560 Speaker 1: so overtaken with this feminist claptrap and this really destructive thinking. Um, 978 00:57:38,600 --> 00:57:40,320 Speaker 1: we'll get into it. I'll tell you what she said 979 00:57:40,360 --> 00:57:42,320 Speaker 1: that she says she's afraid of her son's because of 980 00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:48,640 Speaker 1: rape culture. It's it's nuts. We'll be right back. He's 981 00:57:48,680 --> 00:57:51,040 Speaker 1: back with you now, because when it comes to the 982 00:57:51,120 --> 00:57:57,840 Speaker 1: fight for truth, the fuck never stops. Fred in Ohio 983 00:57:58,000 --> 00:58:00,680 Speaker 1: on w w V A Welcome to Freedom, hud Sir, 984 00:58:02,760 --> 00:58:06,800 Speaker 1: good evening. My question has to has to do with 985 00:58:07,160 --> 00:58:15,560 Speaker 1: um D delium rates of US holdings at Hillary Clinton 986 00:58:15,600 --> 00:58:21,680 Speaker 1: supposedly sold to the Russians. Um I'd like to know 987 00:58:21,720 --> 00:58:26,120 Speaker 1: how much she could do that. Well, the way that 988 00:58:26,280 --> 00:58:28,440 Speaker 1: this word and it's it's pretty complicated, and if you 989 00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:33,640 Speaker 1: want the the full and detailed explanation, you would want 990 00:58:33,640 --> 00:58:37,960 Speaker 1: to go to Clinton Cash, The Untold Story of how 991 00:58:38,080 --> 00:58:41,560 Speaker 1: my foreign governments and businesses helped Bill and Hillary Clinton 992 00:58:41,720 --> 00:58:44,960 Speaker 1: Rich helped make Bill and Hillary Clint Rich, which was 993 00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:48,840 Speaker 1: written by Peter Schweitzer. So that's he goes into this 994 00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:51,320 Speaker 1: in some detail. He really was the one that raised 995 00:58:51,360 --> 00:58:56,760 Speaker 1: this into the public consciousness. And my my memory of 996 00:58:56,840 --> 00:59:01,600 Speaker 1: this is, so there was a Urania one UH is 997 00:59:01,640 --> 00:59:07,720 Speaker 1: a mining company, and there were some Russian UH there 998 00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:09,880 Speaker 1: were some Russian investors. They purchased a stake of it, 999 00:59:10,320 --> 00:59:15,360 Speaker 1: and they needed to get um. They needed to get 1000 00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:19,320 Speaker 1: permission from Clinton State Department and in order to buy 1001 00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:23,760 Speaker 1: this stake of of America's uranium holdings. And there was 1002 00:59:23,800 --> 00:59:27,320 Speaker 1: a lot of money from people with connections to the 1003 00:59:27,440 --> 00:59:31,680 Speaker 1: Russians who were funneling money the Clinton Foundation at the time. Right. 1004 00:59:31,720 --> 00:59:35,680 Speaker 1: That's that's kind of the a short and maybe somewhat 1005 00:59:35,680 --> 00:59:39,160 Speaker 1: sloppy version of a much more detailed sequence of events. 1006 00:59:39,200 --> 00:59:42,360 Speaker 1: But that's basically what happened. Uh. What they say is 1007 00:59:42,400 --> 00:59:44,720 Speaker 1: that Hillary. I mean, the response I'll give you the 1008 00:59:44,720 --> 00:59:46,959 Speaker 1: response you'll get from Democrats on this or the left 1009 00:59:47,360 --> 00:59:50,080 Speaker 1: that one, the uranium doesn't actually like leave the country, 1010 00:59:50,120 --> 00:59:53,400 Speaker 1: it stays here or you know, the US maintains control 1011 00:59:53,560 --> 00:59:58,520 Speaker 1: of it. And two, Uh, they'll say that Hillary was 1012 00:59:58,600 --> 01:00:02,120 Speaker 1: not a part of that decision process specifically. You know, 1013 01:00:02,200 --> 01:00:04,560 Speaker 1: do you believe that? I mean, you know, I leave 1014 01:00:04,600 --> 01:00:10,840 Speaker 1: that to you. It's unbelievable. And the second question is 1015 01:00:10,720 --> 01:00:14,840 Speaker 1: is um, okay, who's mining this uranium? I mean, there 1016 01:00:14,840 --> 01:00:19,040 Speaker 1: are the Russians, and where is this uranium is? It's just, uh, 1017 01:00:19,240 --> 01:00:22,120 Speaker 1: are these deposits in the United States? Are they somewhere else? Yeah, 1018 01:00:22,160 --> 01:00:24,840 Speaker 1: they're here. And then they're not allowed to be exported 1019 01:00:24,920 --> 01:00:30,400 Speaker 1: from here, so it's US subsidiaries of Uranium one are 1020 01:00:30,440 --> 01:00:32,240 Speaker 1: what we're talking about here. Uranium one is a South 1021 01:00:32,240 --> 01:00:36,160 Speaker 1: African mining company with US subsidiaries and some guy I 1022 01:00:36,200 --> 01:00:38,320 Speaker 1: think it was a Canadian with ties to Russia. I mean, 1023 01:00:38,320 --> 01:00:41,680 Speaker 1: like I can't. It's all in Clinton cash, but yes, Clinton. 1024 01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:45,120 Speaker 1: The bottom line is Clinton Foundation was getting huge donations 1025 01:00:45,120 --> 01:00:48,080 Speaker 1: from people that you can draw a straight line from 1026 01:00:48,120 --> 01:00:53,760 Speaker 1: those donations. Uh two an interest in the Uranium one situation, 1027 01:00:54,360 --> 01:00:57,160 Speaker 1: and people just say, well, no, that's not that's not corruption, 1028 01:00:57,200 --> 01:00:59,560 Speaker 1: because you know it's a charity. I mean, the Clintons, 1029 01:00:59,640 --> 01:01:02,760 Speaker 1: they're like evil geniuses that they set up an enormous 1030 01:01:03,200 --> 01:01:06,720 Speaker 1: global slush fund, which is a branding mechanism for them. 1031 01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:09,920 Speaker 1: Funds their lifestyle, funds their private jet travel, pays for 1032 01:01:09,960 --> 01:01:11,880 Speaker 1: their meals, pays to put them up all of the world, 1033 01:01:11,920 --> 01:01:14,920 Speaker 1: allows them to have these huge conferences and and it's 1034 01:01:14,920 --> 01:01:18,640 Speaker 1: a giant branding mechanism. It was really a second It 1035 01:01:18,680 --> 01:01:21,400 Speaker 1: was kind of a second campaign for Hillary, right. I mean, 1036 01:01:21,640 --> 01:01:25,320 Speaker 1: the whole Clinton Foundation was just an exercise in making 1037 01:01:25,320 --> 01:01:29,040 Speaker 1: her name more famous and creating international connections and a 1038 01:01:29,120 --> 01:01:32,280 Speaker 1: patronage network of people who knew that if they donated 1039 01:01:32,320 --> 01:01:34,280 Speaker 1: to her, she was likely to be the future president. 1040 01:01:34,720 --> 01:01:37,360 Speaker 1: So it was. It was a huge money making machine. 1041 01:01:37,400 --> 01:01:39,600 Speaker 1: I mean enormous. And if you're a US citizen, by 1042 01:01:39,600 --> 01:01:41,680 Speaker 1: the way, you donated to the Clinton Foundation, you got 1043 01:01:41,680 --> 01:01:46,440 Speaker 1: a tax right off. You know what I mean. The 1044 01:01:46,440 --> 01:01:49,360 Speaker 1: whole thing is just unbelievable. My second question is is 1045 01:01:49,560 --> 01:01:54,640 Speaker 1: this uranium deal? Um? Can that be undone? I don't know. 1046 01:01:55,200 --> 01:01:57,480 Speaker 1: I would guess not, but you know now I will 1047 01:01:57,520 --> 01:01:59,560 Speaker 1: be honest and say, we're getting beyond my area of 1048 01:02:00,520 --> 01:02:02,960 Speaker 1: of expertise. And I mean, I don't think the regulators 1049 01:02:03,000 --> 01:02:05,560 Speaker 1: could go back and and uh, you know, give a 1050 01:02:05,640 --> 01:02:08,040 Speaker 1: negative on the I don't think the State Department say 1051 01:02:08,040 --> 01:02:09,760 Speaker 1: psych you know, we we said you could do this, 1052 01:02:09,800 --> 01:02:12,240 Speaker 1: but you can't. But you know, it's a crazy world 1053 01:02:12,280 --> 01:02:13,640 Speaker 1: we live in. My friend, I'm not totally sure, but 1054 01:02:13,640 --> 01:02:16,480 Speaker 1: thank you for calling in, Fred Uh, Tim and Mississippi WV. 1055 01:02:16,600 --> 01:02:23,680 Speaker 1: What's up? Tim? Uh? Thanks lot buck planton Cash by 1056 01:02:23,680 --> 01:02:25,800 Speaker 1: the way, great great book. And actually there's like a 1057 01:02:25,880 --> 01:02:29,600 Speaker 1: fifty five minute video that they did on it that 1058 01:02:29,680 --> 01:02:32,200 Speaker 1: you probably still can find out on the internet. But listen, 1059 01:02:32,360 --> 01:02:34,880 Speaker 1: I want to ask you a questions of all the 1060 01:02:34,920 --> 01:02:39,400 Speaker 1: Trump's nominees that have managed to be confirmed. Is there 1061 01:02:39,440 --> 01:02:42,680 Speaker 1: anybody that's particularly impressed you? And is there anybody that's 1062 01:02:42,720 --> 01:02:48,400 Speaker 1: particularly disappointed you? Of well, I mean the easy answer 1063 01:02:48,400 --> 01:02:50,600 Speaker 1: to your question and the safe choice. The safe answer 1064 01:02:50,600 --> 01:02:53,000 Speaker 1: would be to say Maddess. I think just because he's 1065 01:02:53,040 --> 01:02:56,320 Speaker 1: so universally respected and and has he has yet to 1066 01:02:56,360 --> 01:02:59,200 Speaker 1: say or do anything that has at least raised eyebrows 1067 01:02:59,240 --> 01:03:02,680 Speaker 1: for me. But that's not surprising because he's he's a 1068 01:03:02,720 --> 01:03:07,720 Speaker 1: general's general. From everything that we know. Um, I I 1069 01:03:07,800 --> 01:03:09,720 Speaker 1: can't say that, you know, it's it's tough to know 1070 01:03:09,880 --> 01:03:13,880 Speaker 1: in this White House who's making what decisions thus far? 1071 01:03:14,000 --> 01:03:16,960 Speaker 1: I mean I know nothing. There's nothing that Tillerson has 1072 01:03:17,000 --> 01:03:21,400 Speaker 1: done yet that I think has been uh, particularly exciting 1073 01:03:21,480 --> 01:03:25,200 Speaker 1: or noteworthy. But um you know, it's a it's a 1074 01:03:25,200 --> 01:03:27,600 Speaker 1: good question. So, I mean, Maddis is obviously great. It's 1075 01:03:27,600 --> 01:03:30,560 Speaker 1: a fantastic pick. I I actually have faith in Tillerson. 1076 01:03:30,760 --> 01:03:34,040 Speaker 1: I like the idea of having a former you know, 1077 01:03:34,280 --> 01:03:36,120 Speaker 1: CEO of one of the big of I think, the 1078 01:03:36,200 --> 01:03:39,439 Speaker 1: biggest company in the world as your secretary of State. 1079 01:03:39,480 --> 01:03:42,360 Speaker 1: That makes sense to me. So, but now, why do 1080 01:03:42,360 --> 01:03:44,000 Speaker 1: you have somebody in mind or you. What are you 1081 01:03:44,040 --> 01:03:46,080 Speaker 1: making a more general point about how you're disappointed. You 1082 01:03:46,160 --> 01:03:50,040 Speaker 1: tell me, yeah, well, I like the names that you mentioned, 1083 01:03:50,040 --> 01:03:52,680 Speaker 1: and I think was a great, great thing. Oh yeah, well, 1084 01:03:52,680 --> 01:03:54,200 Speaker 1: of course if but I don't think of him as 1085 01:03:54,240 --> 01:03:57,200 Speaker 1: a you know, as like a member of the Trump administration. Right, 1086 01:03:57,200 --> 01:04:02,640 Speaker 1: but go ahead, that's true. A good point. Good point. Um. 1087 01:04:02,800 --> 01:04:05,240 Speaker 1: I've got a lot of respect for Jet Sessions, and 1088 01:04:05,320 --> 01:04:08,080 Speaker 1: when when he was appointed, I thought that is an 1089 01:04:08,120 --> 01:04:12,360 Speaker 1: absolutely great call to make, because I've always thought he's 1090 01:04:12,400 --> 01:04:14,680 Speaker 1: been completely honorable. I'm not saying that he's not now, 1091 01:04:15,480 --> 01:04:18,920 Speaker 1: but I find it extremely interesting for you know, the 1092 01:04:18,960 --> 01:04:21,480 Speaker 1: better part of a year now, we've been chasing fantoms 1093 01:04:21,880 --> 01:04:27,200 Speaker 1: uh with the Republicans, you know, agreement in the Congress, 1094 01:04:27,920 --> 01:04:30,880 Speaker 1: and they haven't turned up one shred of evidence. And 1095 01:04:31,360 --> 01:04:36,080 Speaker 1: I cannot believe James Comey in his thirteen minutes speech, 1096 01:04:36,360 --> 01:04:39,360 Speaker 1: you know, back last fall, he basically you put some 1097 01:04:39,440 --> 01:04:41,920 Speaker 1: numbers and Roman numerals in there, and you've got about 1098 01:04:41,920 --> 01:04:45,760 Speaker 1: a forty account indictment against Hillary Clinton, and I hear 1099 01:04:45,920 --> 01:04:49,360 Speaker 1: nothing at all about anything being investigated on the left. 1100 01:04:49,360 --> 01:04:51,800 Speaker 1: So I got my questions this because I don't believe 1101 01:04:51,840 --> 01:04:57,640 Speaker 1: that the Sessions is corrupt. But why in the world 1102 01:04:57,920 --> 01:05:01,360 Speaker 1: is it? Because the media and the last are so 1103 01:05:01,480 --> 01:05:04,480 Speaker 1: pervasive now that somebody's thinking, well, if we did that, 1104 01:05:04,560 --> 01:05:06,400 Speaker 1: you know, the country would come apart, would wind up 1105 01:05:06,400 --> 01:05:09,800 Speaker 1: them flame. I mean, do you think that's your consideration? That, like, 1106 01:05:09,840 --> 01:05:12,200 Speaker 1: why is in Sessions fighting fire with fire against the 1107 01:05:12,240 --> 01:05:14,760 Speaker 1: Democrats on this stuff? I mean, I'm trying to get 1108 01:05:14,800 --> 01:05:16,920 Speaker 1: the heart of your question. No, no, no, no, I 1109 01:05:16,920 --> 01:05:20,160 Speaker 1: don't think it's fighting fire fire against fire fire. They 1110 01:05:20,200 --> 01:05:24,080 Speaker 1: have no evidence at all that Trump did anything, right now, Okay, 1111 01:05:24,120 --> 01:05:25,520 Speaker 1: I get that, But so what what what would you 1112 01:05:25,520 --> 01:05:27,320 Speaker 1: want Sessions? What would you want Sessions to do? You 1113 01:05:27,360 --> 01:05:29,880 Speaker 1: want Sessions to shut it down with the investigating I 1114 01:05:29,920 --> 01:05:33,120 Speaker 1: want to investigating the Democrat Party and then the Hillary 1115 01:05:33,160 --> 01:05:38,760 Speaker 1: Clinton campaign. Yeah, I just I mean clearly, well, I mean, 1116 01:05:38,760 --> 01:05:40,320 Speaker 1: to be fair to my question, I think that is 1117 01:05:40,400 --> 01:05:43,520 Speaker 1: I mean, I think that's you know, that's legal recourse 1118 01:05:43,840 --> 01:05:45,360 Speaker 1: used to get to and that is kind of fighting 1119 01:05:45,360 --> 01:05:46,880 Speaker 1: fire fire and we can just we can agree to 1120 01:05:46,960 --> 01:05:49,440 Speaker 1: disagree on whether you know you think that that's the 1121 01:05:49,480 --> 01:05:51,840 Speaker 1: way to describe it. But yeah, I think we may 1122 01:05:51,840 --> 01:05:54,840 Speaker 1: be seeing that by the way, I think we um 1123 01:05:55,120 --> 01:06:00,840 Speaker 1: uh could be in a situation where um, and this 1124 01:06:00,880 --> 01:06:02,960 Speaker 1: is a theory that I think I've begun to expand 1125 01:06:03,040 --> 01:06:05,800 Speaker 1: upon on the show. No matter what happens, Trump can 1126 01:06:05,800 --> 01:06:09,320 Speaker 1: pardon anybody who's prosecuted from his administration. So now I'm 1127 01:06:09,360 --> 01:06:11,400 Speaker 1: not saying that's not a huge political liability and might 1128 01:06:11,400 --> 01:06:13,360 Speaker 1: in fact end up with Trump getting impeached if that 1129 01:06:13,400 --> 01:06:15,439 Speaker 1: were to happen. I don't think that will happen. But 1130 01:06:16,120 --> 01:06:21,280 Speaker 1: Trump could pardon anybody. There's also uh a couple of investigations, 1131 01:06:21,280 --> 01:06:25,480 Speaker 1: criminal investigation possibilities right now that might make the Democrats 1132 01:06:25,520 --> 01:06:28,000 Speaker 1: wish they hadn't tried to use the law as a 1133 01:06:28,000 --> 01:06:34,200 Speaker 1: tool of of of political reciprocity or political revenge. And 1134 01:06:34,640 --> 01:06:37,240 Speaker 1: what's happening right now is that there's gonna be I 1135 01:06:37,240 --> 01:06:42,080 Speaker 1: think it increased pressure, which we're talking about tim the 1136 01:06:42,320 --> 01:06:45,520 Speaker 1: pressure to go back and look at the Hillary investigation, 1137 01:06:46,040 --> 01:06:48,720 Speaker 1: because that's a part of a lot of what we're 1138 01:06:48,760 --> 01:06:51,320 Speaker 1: already talking about here with the collusion and everything else. 1139 01:06:51,360 --> 01:06:54,320 Speaker 1: I mean, when you have Loretta Lynch saying that you know, 1140 01:06:54,400 --> 01:06:56,760 Speaker 1: she's not that that they shouldn't call it an investigation. 1141 01:06:56,800 --> 01:07:00,080 Speaker 1: It's a matter, and that's on the record now, And 1142 01:07:00,160 --> 01:07:02,280 Speaker 1: I think the special counsel should be looking into that too, 1143 01:07:03,240 --> 01:07:06,600 Speaker 1: because you know that now now. But that's why special 1144 01:07:06,640 --> 01:07:08,440 Speaker 1: counsels are so dangerous, by the way, because it's just 1145 01:07:09,240 --> 01:07:12,400 Speaker 1: it just spirals off and there's no there's really no 1146 01:07:12,520 --> 01:07:16,960 Speaker 1: end in sight. There's no accountability. So it's concerning, right. Well, 1147 01:07:17,000 --> 01:07:19,880 Speaker 1: I appreciate your points, but mine really goes kind of 1148 01:07:19,880 --> 01:07:22,280 Speaker 1: more back to to this. You talked about the political 1149 01:07:22,360 --> 01:07:24,320 Speaker 1: ramifications and aspects and as us first of them and 1150 01:07:24,320 --> 01:07:26,800 Speaker 1: all kind of stuff. But at the end of the day, 1151 01:07:26,880 --> 01:07:28,640 Speaker 1: I know I'm not a lawyer, but I know this. 1152 01:07:29,160 --> 01:07:33,760 Speaker 1: I know that keeping classified information in your home I'm 1153 01:07:33,840 --> 01:07:37,040 Speaker 1: secured server is a violation of the law, no question, 1154 01:07:37,840 --> 01:07:41,720 Speaker 1: it's not republic Democrats. Clearly she broke the law. You 1155 01:07:41,800 --> 01:07:43,840 Speaker 1: do that, buck, and then you know the rest of 1156 01:07:43,920 --> 01:07:45,880 Speaker 1: us will pay your bail. Yeah, I do it, and 1157 01:07:45,920 --> 01:07:48,280 Speaker 1: you'll never hear from me again. I know. It's just 1158 01:07:48,600 --> 01:07:52,600 Speaker 1: m that's all true. It's very it's very frusting. That's 1159 01:07:52,600 --> 01:07:54,560 Speaker 1: also why people that are saying, oh, you know, Trump 1160 01:07:54,560 --> 01:07:57,040 Speaker 1: should be Trump is a criminal and all this other stuff, like, really, 1161 01:07:57,080 --> 01:07:59,120 Speaker 1: so Hillary is not a criminal, but Trump is. That's 1162 01:07:59,120 --> 01:08:01,000 Speaker 1: where we are now, media. Hillary is not a criminal. 1163 01:08:01,040 --> 01:08:04,240 Speaker 1: Trump is a criminal, really really all right, thanks for 1164 01:08:04,280 --> 01:08:06,000 Speaker 1: calling in. Now we gotta go to break to appreciate it. 1165 01:08:06,000 --> 01:08:08,200 Speaker 1: Shields high, quick break, and I'll talk to you about 1166 01:08:08,200 --> 01:08:13,440 Speaker 1: this feminist writer. We'll be right back. A limit to 1167 01:08:13,480 --> 01:08:17,799 Speaker 1: how crazy some progressive feminists can be, so just start 1168 01:08:17,800 --> 01:08:24,360 Speaker 1: with that. It's ah yeah. And there's a piece written 1169 01:08:24,400 --> 01:08:28,360 Speaker 1: by a writer named Jody Allard who wrote in the 1170 01:08:28,400 --> 01:08:32,720 Speaker 1: Washington Post after the brock Turner case. Brock Turner was 1171 01:08:32,760 --> 01:08:38,240 Speaker 1: the Stanford swimmer who was convicted of sexually assaulting a 1172 01:08:38,320 --> 01:08:42,400 Speaker 1: young woman who was very drunk outside of a bar. 1173 01:08:42,880 --> 01:08:44,920 Speaker 1: And he went to prison for six months. And this 1174 01:08:45,000 --> 01:08:48,560 Speaker 1: was this brought you know, he's an athlete, white privilege, 1175 01:08:48,600 --> 01:08:50,400 Speaker 1: all of that came together in the case. People said, well, 1176 01:08:50,400 --> 01:08:52,840 Speaker 1: we should have gone to prison longer. And it was 1177 01:08:53,000 --> 01:08:57,600 Speaker 1: quite quite a topic of conversation and big in the 1178 01:08:57,640 --> 01:09:00,240 Speaker 1: news cycle for a while. And so she out a 1179 01:09:00,280 --> 01:09:06,000 Speaker 1: piece in the Washington Post about how her sons deny 1180 01:09:06,160 --> 01:09:07,800 Speaker 1: rape culture and how you know they're good. But he's 1181 01:09:07,800 --> 01:09:09,559 Speaker 1: writing about her own sons, Okay, as a woman writing 1182 01:09:09,560 --> 01:09:11,960 Speaker 1: about her children who are sixteen and eighteen, she says 1183 01:09:12,000 --> 01:09:14,280 Speaker 1: in the piece, and that was a little while ago, 1184 01:09:15,120 --> 01:09:16,800 Speaker 1: but they deny rape culture, and we'll say things to 1185 01:09:16,800 --> 01:09:18,920 Speaker 1: her like, Mom, you think everything is about sexism, and 1186 01:09:19,120 --> 01:09:21,559 Speaker 1: you think everything is about rape culture. And those kids 1187 01:09:21,560 --> 01:09:24,280 Speaker 1: are totally right based on what I'm reading about reading 1188 01:09:24,280 --> 01:09:28,840 Speaker 1: from this woman. So her teenage boys have decent heads 1189 01:09:28,880 --> 01:09:30,479 Speaker 1: on their shoulders because they're able to figure out that 1190 01:09:30,520 --> 01:09:33,640 Speaker 1: Mom is nuts. I mean, she's she's crazy. She she 1191 01:09:33,800 --> 01:09:40,519 Speaker 1: is not working with the normal understanding of society and 1192 01:09:40,600 --> 01:09:42,640 Speaker 1: what's going on in the world around her, that that 1193 01:09:42,680 --> 01:09:45,840 Speaker 1: the rest of us are. Uh. She wrote this piece. 1194 01:09:45,920 --> 01:09:49,320 Speaker 1: This is just a day or two ago. Oh no, sorry, 1195 01:09:49,400 --> 01:09:53,800 Speaker 1: last week. Actually, I'm done pretending role reboot is his 1196 01:09:53,880 --> 01:09:56,200 Speaker 1: name's I've never heard of it before her pieces. I'm 1197 01:09:56,280 --> 01:10:01,800 Speaker 1: done pretending men are safe, even my sons. That's the 1198 01:10:01,800 --> 01:10:04,800 Speaker 1: title of her piece. Let me read to you a 1199 01:10:04,840 --> 01:10:06,840 Speaker 1: little bit from this because I think that this is 1200 01:10:07,880 --> 01:10:09,559 Speaker 1: I don't think that she's the only one who holds 1201 01:10:09,560 --> 01:10:13,479 Speaker 1: these us. I mean, rape culture is is a form 1202 01:10:13,560 --> 01:10:15,960 Speaker 1: of feminist hysteria. There's no such thing as rape culture. 1203 01:10:16,040 --> 01:10:20,440 Speaker 1: Rape is illegal in all fifty states. Men hate rapists. 1204 01:10:20,920 --> 01:10:23,679 Speaker 1: It's one of the most vile and and and evil 1205 01:10:23,720 --> 01:10:28,400 Speaker 1: crimes in society. Really, second only to murder. So you 1206 01:10:28,439 --> 01:10:33,360 Speaker 1: know what rape culture? I mean, there are rapists the 1207 01:10:33,400 --> 01:10:35,439 Speaker 1: way that there are murderers. There are bad people, but 1208 01:10:35,680 --> 01:10:40,680 Speaker 1: a rape culture. What is rape culture? Uh? And well, 1209 01:10:40,760 --> 01:10:43,120 Speaker 1: let me read you what she thinks it is. I 1210 01:10:43,240 --> 01:10:47,280 Speaker 1: have two sons. They are strong and compassionate. They are 1211 01:10:47,320 --> 01:10:51,240 Speaker 1: good boys. But they are not safe boys. I'm starting 1212 01:10:51,240 --> 01:10:54,240 Speaker 1: to believe there's no such thing. I wrote an essay 1213 01:10:54,280 --> 01:10:56,400 Speaker 1: in The Washington Post last year, during the height of 1214 01:10:56,400 --> 01:10:59,599 Speaker 1: the brock Turner case, about my sons and rape culture. 1215 01:11:00,200 --> 01:11:02,360 Speaker 1: I didn't think it would be controversial when I wrote it. 1216 01:11:02,840 --> 01:11:05,680 Speaker 1: I was sure most parents grappled the raising sons in 1217 01:11:05,720 --> 01:11:08,599 Speaker 1: the midst of rape culture. The struggle I wrote about 1218 01:11:08,640 --> 01:11:11,719 Speaker 1: was universal, I thought. But I was wrong. My essay 1219 01:11:11,800 --> 01:11:14,120 Speaker 1: went semi viral, and for the first time, my sons 1220 01:11:14,240 --> 01:11:17,519 Speaker 1: encountered my words about them on their friends phones, their 1221 01:11:17,560 --> 01:11:20,880 Speaker 1: teachers computers, and even overheard them discussed by strangers on 1222 01:11:20,960 --> 01:11:24,400 Speaker 1: a crowded metro bus. Um. One of my sons was 1223 01:11:24,479 --> 01:11:27,800 Speaker 1: hurt broy my words, even though he never told me so. 1224 01:11:28,280 --> 01:11:30,559 Speaker 1: He doesn't understand why I lumped him and his brother 1225 01:11:30,600 --> 01:11:35,200 Speaker 1: together in my essay. Uh. I teetered frequently between supporting 1226 01:11:35,200 --> 01:11:37,960 Speaker 1: my son and educating him. Is it my job as 1227 01:11:37,960 --> 01:11:40,160 Speaker 1: his mother to ensure he feels safe emotionally no matter 1228 01:11:40,280 --> 01:11:46,000 Speaker 1: what violence he spews. As a single mother, I sometimes 1229 01:11:46,000 --> 01:11:48,320 Speaker 1: wonder whether the real problem is that my sons have 1230 01:11:48,400 --> 01:11:50,120 Speaker 1: no role models for the type of men I hope 1231 01:11:50,120 --> 01:11:52,840 Speaker 1: they become. But when I look around to the men 1232 01:11:52,920 --> 01:11:55,080 Speaker 1: I know, I'm not sure a male partner would fit, 1233 01:11:55,160 --> 01:11:58,000 Speaker 1: that would fill that hole. Where are these men who 1234 01:11:58,000 --> 01:12:02,560 Speaker 1: are enlightened but not arrogant, who are feminists without self congratulations? 1235 01:12:03,760 --> 01:12:06,000 Speaker 1: And she goes into like her own dating stuff or whatever, 1236 01:12:06,040 --> 01:12:08,040 Speaker 1: and then she talks more about and how it's dating, 1237 01:12:08,240 --> 01:12:10,479 Speaker 1: you know, frustrations, and then she talks more about her sons. 1238 01:12:11,200 --> 01:12:14,800 Speaker 1: My sons won't rape unconscious women behind a dumpster, and 1239 01:12:14,880 --> 01:12:17,360 Speaker 1: neither will most of the progressive men I know. Can 1240 01:12:17,400 --> 01:12:20,679 Speaker 1: we just stop right there? She she thinks that it's 1241 01:12:20,720 --> 01:12:23,160 Speaker 1: only the progressive men. This woman has been published the 1242 01:12:23,160 --> 01:12:25,200 Speaker 1: Washington Post. She's apparently a writer, is what she does. 1243 01:12:25,720 --> 01:12:28,120 Speaker 1: So so the progressive men she'll trust to not rape 1244 01:12:28,120 --> 01:12:33,400 Speaker 1: a woman behind a dumpster. That's quite a a modifier 1245 01:12:33,600 --> 01:12:36,640 Speaker 1: thrown into that, throwing into that sentence. Not even just 1246 01:12:36,760 --> 01:12:38,440 Speaker 1: most of the men I know most of the progressive 1247 01:12:38,439 --> 01:12:40,360 Speaker 1: men I know, because you know, the conservatives are all 1248 01:12:41,160 --> 01:12:45,880 Speaker 1: uh you know, dumpest rapesters or dumpster rapists, you know 1249 01:12:45,920 --> 01:12:50,759 Speaker 1: what I mean. Uh, sorry, I got my words confused there. Um. 1250 01:12:50,880 --> 01:12:55,280 Speaker 1: But what all these men Sharon common, even my son's, 1251 01:12:55,800 --> 01:12:59,200 Speaker 1: is a relentless question and disbelief of the female experience. 1252 01:12:59,680 --> 01:13:02,200 Speaker 1: I do not want to prove my pain or provide 1253 01:13:02,320 --> 01:13:04,839 Speaker 1: enough evidence to convince anyone that my trauma is merited. 1254 01:13:05,360 --> 01:13:07,720 Speaker 1: I'm through wasting my time on people who are more 1255 01:13:07,760 --> 01:13:13,200 Speaker 1: interested in ideas than feelings. And I'm through pretending these people, 1256 01:13:13,920 --> 01:13:18,840 Speaker 1: these men are safe. So if they're not safe, then 1257 01:13:18,880 --> 01:13:20,639 Speaker 1: that that that's a quote from That was a quote 1258 01:13:20,640 --> 01:13:23,880 Speaker 1: from her peace. Okay, if they're not safe, then they're unsafe. 1259 01:13:24,880 --> 01:13:29,240 Speaker 1: This woman, this feminist writer, who has been published in 1260 01:13:29,240 --> 01:13:31,600 Speaker 1: the Washington Post editorial page and I'm sure has some 1261 01:13:31,680 --> 01:13:35,000 Speaker 1: kind of a following online, is suggesting that all men 1262 01:13:35,000 --> 01:13:38,479 Speaker 1: are basically wait, are just rapists in waiting. That that's 1263 01:13:38,479 --> 01:13:40,920 Speaker 1: what men are there, rapists in waiting, and that rape 1264 01:13:40,960 --> 01:13:47,120 Speaker 1: culture has overtaken America, and that I can't imagine going 1265 01:13:47,200 --> 01:13:50,800 Speaker 1: through day to day life actually believing that this is 1266 01:13:50,840 --> 01:13:54,559 Speaker 1: the society and this is the country that one lives in. 1267 01:13:55,160 --> 01:13:57,760 Speaker 1: But if you see the way that campus tribunals are 1268 01:13:57,760 --> 01:14:00,839 Speaker 1: set up for sexual assault cases, if you spend time 1269 01:14:00,960 --> 01:14:04,759 Speaker 1: at a you know, Welcome to Campus one oh one session, 1270 01:14:04,840 --> 01:14:06,840 Speaker 1: I mean, as as I did, and was actually part 1271 01:14:06,880 --> 01:14:08,719 Speaker 1: of some of the instruction at some of those things 1272 01:14:08,720 --> 01:14:11,880 Speaker 1: on my own campus. Uh, you'll see that this is 1273 01:14:11,960 --> 01:14:14,439 Speaker 1: very this is commonplace now, that that men are all 1274 01:14:14,520 --> 01:14:18,600 Speaker 1: just teetering on the brink of sexual criminality, and that 1275 01:14:18,680 --> 01:14:20,360 Speaker 1: it's a part of the female experience. But this is 1276 01:14:20,360 --> 01:14:23,160 Speaker 1: how you get statistics, and people will say this that 1277 01:14:23,840 --> 01:14:27,200 Speaker 1: of women on college campus as report having been sexually assaulted, 1278 01:14:27,240 --> 01:14:29,400 Speaker 1: that's just that's not a not an accurate statistic. It's 1279 01:14:29,439 --> 01:14:35,360 Speaker 1: just not true, uh, that that survey included unwanted glances 1280 01:14:35,520 --> 01:14:38,080 Speaker 1: and and unwanted touching. I mean, so a guy who 1281 01:14:38,080 --> 01:14:40,120 Speaker 1: grabs a girl's arm and you know, wants to kiss 1282 01:14:40,120 --> 01:14:42,240 Speaker 1: her and she pulls away and that's the end of it. 1283 01:14:42,920 --> 01:14:45,120 Speaker 1: That that's considered a sexual assault for the purposes of 1284 01:14:45,120 --> 01:14:47,559 Speaker 1: that survey. I mean, that's just nonsense, right, that's I mean, 1285 01:14:47,560 --> 01:14:49,160 Speaker 1: the guy is a jerk, and you shouldn't grab people, 1286 01:14:49,160 --> 01:14:53,880 Speaker 1: but that's not that's not rape. Uh so, But this, 1287 01:14:54,000 --> 01:14:57,040 Speaker 1: this mentality has become widespread, and it was really given 1288 01:14:57,040 --> 01:15:00,240 Speaker 1: a lot of credibility by the Obama administration with the 1289 01:15:00,240 --> 01:15:02,960 Speaker 1: way that they were involving at the federal level the 1290 01:15:03,080 --> 01:15:07,720 Speaker 1: government in how campuses deal with sexual assault accusations. They 1291 01:15:08,120 --> 01:15:12,000 Speaker 1: forced under Title nine law, They forced colleges to start 1292 01:15:12,000 --> 01:15:14,439 Speaker 1: setting up these tribunals where the accused have no rights. 1293 01:15:14,439 --> 01:15:17,240 Speaker 1: And now Betsy Divos is finally maybe going to challenge 1294 01:15:17,280 --> 01:15:20,000 Speaker 1: this and changes under the Trump administration. But it needs 1295 01:15:20,000 --> 01:15:22,760 Speaker 1: to happen because lives are being ruined because of this. 1296 01:15:22,840 --> 01:15:25,960 Speaker 1: It's a it's a feminist hysteria. The whole notion of 1297 01:15:26,040 --> 01:15:30,800 Speaker 1: rape culture is a falsehood. And this woman is that 1298 01:15:30,960 --> 01:15:33,640 Speaker 1: she's afraid that her own sons have been tainted by 1299 01:15:33,720 --> 01:15:36,479 Speaker 1: rape culture and quote she does not feel safe, she 1300 01:15:36,520 --> 01:15:38,720 Speaker 1: doesn't feel safe with them, and that they are not 1301 01:15:38,840 --> 01:15:44,000 Speaker 1: safe and that no men are safe. This is unfortunately, 1302 01:15:44,240 --> 01:15:47,599 Speaker 1: a form of delusion, a form of lunacy. But as 1303 01:15:47,640 --> 01:15:49,400 Speaker 1: long as you're throwing off fancy words around it and 1304 01:15:49,439 --> 01:15:52,080 Speaker 1: say it's about trauma and victimhood and the feminist experience, 1305 01:15:52,120 --> 01:15:55,599 Speaker 1: no one's supposed to challenge you. Uh well, people like 1306 01:15:55,680 --> 01:15:59,840 Speaker 1: me don't really care what feminist loony writers think, so 1307 01:16:00,439 --> 01:16:04,760 Speaker 1: I will challenge it. This article is crazy and I 1308 01:16:04,760 --> 01:16:08,639 Speaker 1: I hope her sons are okay. The Freedom Hunt rocks 1309 01:16:08,680 --> 01:16:11,400 Speaker 1: online too. You can hang out with Team Buck anytime 1310 01:16:11,520 --> 01:16:13,720 Speaker 1: plus kid plus the latest news and analysis s goo 1311 01:16:13,840 --> 01:16:18,560 Speaker 1: top buck Sexton dot com. That's buck Sexton dot com. 1312 01:16:18,600 --> 01:16:21,400 Speaker 1: The Buck is back. Welcome back to many of you. 1313 01:16:21,479 --> 01:16:24,160 Speaker 1: May have seen the movie Thomas Crown Affair with Pierce 1314 01:16:24,240 --> 01:16:28,400 Speaker 1: Brosnan about a very high end and fancy art thief. Well, 1315 01:16:28,439 --> 01:16:31,040 Speaker 1: you know, art thievery is a real thing, and in fact, 1316 01:16:31,240 --> 01:16:34,519 Speaker 1: tens of millions, hundreds of millions of dollars are at stake. 1317 01:16:34,640 --> 01:16:38,120 Speaker 1: There was a recent story on Fox News about five 1318 01:16:38,200 --> 01:16:41,240 Speaker 1: hundred and eighty million dollars of stolen art from a 1319 01:16:41,280 --> 01:16:45,720 Speaker 1: Boston museum and how it may be hidden somewhere in Ireland. Well, 1320 01:16:45,720 --> 01:16:47,479 Speaker 1: we're joined by somebody who's a real expert in this 1321 01:16:47,520 --> 01:16:51,439 Speaker 1: area to tell us about art thievery, art slew thing 1322 01:16:51,720 --> 01:16:55,439 Speaker 1: art tracking down all this stuff. Bob Whitman. He's a 1323 01:16:55,439 --> 01:16:58,839 Speaker 1: retired FBI agent and art crimes expert who has recovered 1324 01:16:58,840 --> 01:17:01,800 Speaker 1: more than two five million dollars worth of stolen art 1325 01:17:01,840 --> 01:17:04,639 Speaker 1: and property over his twenty year career at the FBI. Bob, 1326 01:17:04,640 --> 01:17:07,920 Speaker 1: thank you for joining us, hey bugs, pleasure to be here. Uh. 1327 01:17:08,080 --> 01:17:10,120 Speaker 1: By the way, Bob is also the author of the 1328 01:17:10,120 --> 01:17:13,040 Speaker 1: New York Times bestseller Priceless How I Went Undercover to 1329 01:17:13,080 --> 01:17:16,519 Speaker 1: Rescue the World Stolen Treasures, and also the international bestseller 1330 01:17:16,600 --> 01:17:20,160 Speaker 1: The Devil's Diary Alfred Rosenberg and the Stolen Secrets of 1331 01:17:20,200 --> 01:17:22,880 Speaker 1: the Third Right, Well, can we start, Bob with this 1332 01:17:22,960 --> 01:17:25,600 Speaker 1: story about the five hundred and eighty million dollars of 1333 01:17:25,800 --> 01:17:30,040 Speaker 1: art that's allegedly possibly maybe in Ireland and tied to 1334 01:17:30,120 --> 01:17:31,800 Speaker 1: some i ra A folks. Can you give us both 1335 01:17:31,840 --> 01:17:35,280 Speaker 1: the backstory and also your take on this story? Sure? Sure, 1336 01:17:35,400 --> 01:17:40,519 Speaker 1: Back two individuals went into the Isabelle story Gartner Museum 1337 01:17:40,560 --> 01:17:43,759 Speaker 1: in Boston on St. Patrick's Date night. They were addressed 1338 01:17:43,800 --> 01:17:47,599 Speaker 1: as Boston police officers and they basically talked to two 1339 01:17:47,640 --> 01:17:50,120 Speaker 1: young guards and letting them in, which was against the rules. 1340 01:17:50,160 --> 01:17:53,240 Speaker 1: But they tricked them into letting them in. At wich point, 1341 01:17:53,240 --> 01:17:55,559 Speaker 1: of course, they weren't. They weren't police officers, they were thieves. 1342 01:17:55,600 --> 01:17:58,200 Speaker 1: They tied up to two young men and for the 1343 01:17:58,240 --> 01:18:00,519 Speaker 1: next hour and some five minutes went throughout the museum 1344 01:18:00,520 --> 01:18:04,120 Speaker 1: and still thirteen objects of art. The total value at 1345 01:18:04,160 --> 01:18:07,559 Speaker 1: that time in three hundred million dollars. Today, the value 1346 01:18:07,560 --> 01:18:10,280 Speaker 1: of that artwork which is still missing is five hundred 1347 01:18:10,320 --> 01:18:13,200 Speaker 1: and eighty million dollars. As you said, that makes that 1348 01:18:13,360 --> 01:18:18,120 Speaker 1: specific property crime the largest single property crime in US history. Now, 1349 01:18:18,120 --> 01:18:21,040 Speaker 1: there's been bigger frauds made off these types of frauds, 1350 01:18:21,080 --> 01:18:24,439 Speaker 1: but not single property crimes. So when we look at this, 1351 01:18:24,520 --> 01:18:27,360 Speaker 1: it's amazing to know that art theft is the single 1352 01:18:27,840 --> 01:18:31,160 Speaker 1: largest property crime in US history. Today, those paintings have 1353 01:18:31,240 --> 01:18:33,120 Speaker 1: never been recovered. One of them is a Ramier, one 1354 01:18:33,120 --> 01:18:35,000 Speaker 1: of only thirty four known in the world, is called 1355 01:18:35,439 --> 01:18:39,040 Speaker 1: the Concert And a second that was stolen was a 1356 01:18:39,120 --> 01:18:41,680 Speaker 1: Rembrand seascape. It's the only seascape in the world that 1357 01:18:41,760 --> 01:18:44,360 Speaker 1: rememberand ever did so it's called the Storm over the 1358 01:18:44,400 --> 01:18:48,080 Speaker 1: Sea of Galilee. And this year, the Isabelle store Gardener 1359 01:18:48,160 --> 01:18:51,200 Speaker 1: Museum has offered a ten million dollar reward for the 1360 01:18:51,280 --> 01:18:54,920 Speaker 1: recovery of all the artworks up till today. Up till 1361 01:18:54,960 --> 01:18:57,000 Speaker 1: this year, it was five million, but for the for 1362 01:18:57,080 --> 01:18:59,360 Speaker 1: the from now till the end of this year, they've 1363 01:18:59,360 --> 01:19:01,800 Speaker 1: doubled that ten million. In any event, any of your 1364 01:19:01,840 --> 01:19:04,080 Speaker 1: listeners have any idea where they're at, tell me to 1365 01:19:04,120 --> 01:19:07,479 Speaker 1: give us a call. What do you make of this 1366 01:19:07,520 --> 01:19:09,400 Speaker 1: story that was on Fox News just earlier in the 1367 01:19:09,439 --> 01:19:12,840 Speaker 1: week about how it might be this this artwork stolen 1368 01:19:12,840 --> 01:19:15,240 Speaker 1: from Boston Museum might be somewhere in Ireland and there's 1369 01:19:15,280 --> 01:19:19,400 Speaker 1: some i r a Irish Republican Army connection to it. Yeah. 1370 01:19:19,439 --> 01:19:21,760 Speaker 1: But you know the thing is this um because these 1371 01:19:21,840 --> 01:19:24,560 Speaker 1: artworks have been gone for so long, twenty seven years, 1372 01:19:24,560 --> 01:19:27,639 Speaker 1: really we don't really know where they're at. UM. Any 1373 01:19:27,680 --> 01:19:31,920 Speaker 1: speculation is just that it's speculation. Uh. And what I 1374 01:19:32,000 --> 01:19:34,439 Speaker 1: do is because I've been involved, actually was an FBI 1375 01:19:34,479 --> 01:19:37,639 Speaker 1: agent when this thing happened. Two years after I became 1376 01:19:37,680 --> 01:19:40,080 Speaker 1: an agent. I've been involved in this case and known 1377 01:19:40,080 --> 01:19:42,920 Speaker 1: about this case for my entire career twenty seven years. 1378 01:19:43,600 --> 01:19:46,160 Speaker 1: And so you know, we've looked at many, many different 1379 01:19:46,240 --> 01:19:48,320 Speaker 1: leads all over the world. We followed leads I know 1380 01:19:48,400 --> 01:19:51,840 Speaker 1: in Japan, we followed leads in South America, UM, and 1381 01:19:51,960 --> 01:19:54,840 Speaker 1: most of them are fruit were not fruitful. Um. In fact, 1382 01:19:54,840 --> 01:19:56,640 Speaker 1: though the last year I was an FBI agent, in 1383 01:19:56,720 --> 01:19:59,360 Speaker 1: two thousand and eight, I was actually chasing two of 1384 01:19:59,360 --> 01:20:02,800 Speaker 1: the paintings in the south of France. Um and I 1385 01:20:02,920 --> 01:20:04,920 Speaker 1: was working with the what they called the o c BC, 1386 01:20:05,080 --> 01:20:08,680 Speaker 1: which is the French art up team in Paris, to 1387 01:20:08,720 --> 01:20:11,800 Speaker 1: try to recover two of those pieces undercover. So you 1388 01:20:11,840 --> 01:20:13,880 Speaker 1: know the fact that someone at this point says that 1389 01:20:13,920 --> 01:20:16,599 Speaker 1: the ira you know that that kind kind of has 1390 01:20:16,640 --> 01:20:19,720 Speaker 1: played itself out, because you know, Boston is known as 1391 01:20:19,760 --> 01:20:23,080 Speaker 1: an Irish area. There was a lot of speculation that 1392 01:20:23,200 --> 01:20:25,439 Speaker 1: the Irara could have been involved and maybe sell back 1393 01:20:25,479 --> 01:20:29,360 Speaker 1: in today, seven years later, I don't think so. We're 1394 01:20:29,360 --> 01:20:32,599 Speaker 1: speaking to Bob Whitman. He's a retired FBI agent and 1395 01:20:33,160 --> 01:20:35,280 Speaker 1: art crimes expert. He's also the author of the New 1396 01:20:35,320 --> 01:20:38,759 Speaker 1: York Times bestseller Priceless, How I Went Undercover to Rescue 1397 01:20:38,800 --> 01:20:43,559 Speaker 1: the World Stolen Treasures. How does it? How does it work? Bob? 1398 01:20:43,640 --> 01:20:47,320 Speaker 1: When someone steals a twenty or thirty million dollar painting, 1399 01:20:47,760 --> 01:20:49,960 Speaker 1: what where do they then try to sell it? How 1400 01:20:49,960 --> 01:20:53,120 Speaker 1: does that process go go and work? That really is 1401 01:20:53,120 --> 01:20:55,120 Speaker 1: a good question. I'll tell you. Throughout my career, what 1402 01:20:55,200 --> 01:20:58,000 Speaker 1: I've seen is that these criminals are good thieves, but 1403 01:20:58,040 --> 01:21:01,200 Speaker 1: they're terrible business men. They know how to go out 1404 01:21:01,280 --> 01:21:03,320 Speaker 1: and commit a crime, but they don't realize that once 1405 01:21:03,360 --> 01:21:06,600 Speaker 1: you steal these objects. Really there's no market for them. 1406 01:21:06,640 --> 01:21:08,400 Speaker 1: You know, if you go out in the steel car, 1407 01:21:08,560 --> 01:21:10,760 Speaker 1: you can cut those cars up and you can sell 1408 01:21:10,800 --> 01:21:12,920 Speaker 1: the parts from more than what the car is actually worth. 1409 01:21:13,320 --> 01:21:15,040 Speaker 1: And that happens with a lot of different types of 1410 01:21:15,240 --> 01:21:18,679 Speaker 1: stolen property. But with artwork, it's it's unique and therefore 1411 01:21:18,720 --> 01:21:21,000 Speaker 1: it's well known. It's got to be in good condition. 1412 01:21:21,040 --> 01:21:23,960 Speaker 1: You can't quote cut it up. And thirdly, once it 1413 01:21:24,040 --> 01:21:25,479 Speaker 1: goes out to the market, once it comes out to 1414 01:21:25,520 --> 01:21:27,840 Speaker 1: the market, that's when the police get get a lead 1415 01:21:28,120 --> 01:21:31,360 Speaker 1: and recovered. So I did many undercover operations around my 1416 01:21:31,400 --> 01:21:34,120 Speaker 1: career around the world to many different countries where we 1417 01:21:34,120 --> 01:21:38,400 Speaker 1: were actually going as a buyer for stolen high high 1418 01:21:38,479 --> 01:21:41,439 Speaker 1: value asset paintings, and that's what happens to them. So 1419 01:21:41,760 --> 01:21:43,760 Speaker 1: the real theft, I mean, the real art in an 1420 01:21:43,840 --> 01:21:46,639 Speaker 1: art theft is not the stealing. It's the selling. Look 1421 01:21:46,680 --> 01:21:49,759 Speaker 1: it's getting away with selling it and monetizing that stolen property. 1422 01:21:50,040 --> 01:21:54,320 Speaker 1: I would guess that there are countries with less scrupulous 1423 01:21:54,320 --> 01:21:57,599 Speaker 1: governments and very wealthy and well connected individuals maybe who 1424 01:21:57,640 --> 01:22:00,880 Speaker 1: figure you know, we don't we I don't really care 1425 01:22:00,960 --> 01:22:03,559 Speaker 1: if or or if people know, or people will never 1426 01:22:03,640 --> 01:22:06,000 Speaker 1: know because the police all do my bidding, and so 1427 01:22:06,160 --> 01:22:08,519 Speaker 1: that's maybe where you can get this. I mean, if 1428 01:22:08,560 --> 01:22:10,800 Speaker 1: someone stole the kind of paintings we're talking about here 1429 01:22:10,800 --> 01:22:13,960 Speaker 1: from this Boston Art museum theft he said, it's worth 1430 01:22:14,000 --> 01:22:16,880 Speaker 1: five million dollars. Some of these are worth individual paintings 1431 01:22:16,880 --> 01:22:19,280 Speaker 1: worth tens of millions. As you said, these are artists 1432 01:22:19,280 --> 01:22:24,040 Speaker 1: that everybody from art history class remembers. So where where 1433 01:22:24,080 --> 01:22:26,360 Speaker 1: could you possibly display? I mean, what's the purpose of 1434 01:22:26,400 --> 01:22:28,320 Speaker 1: having a thirty million dollar painting if you're not allowed 1435 01:22:28,360 --> 01:22:30,679 Speaker 1: to have it? Is? Is what I'm trying to get at. Well, 1436 01:22:31,000 --> 01:22:33,400 Speaker 1: you know, that's that's that's the question. I agree with you. 1437 01:22:33,439 --> 01:22:36,360 Speaker 1: I mean, from the standpoint of monetizing this type of artwork, 1438 01:22:36,360 --> 01:22:38,680 Speaker 1: it doesn't work out that what we have seen, not 1439 01:22:38,680 --> 01:22:41,080 Speaker 1: in the United States, but in other countries, in some 1440 01:22:41,120 --> 01:22:44,400 Speaker 1: countries in Europe and in Eastern Europe, sometimes the paintings 1441 01:22:44,400 --> 01:22:46,960 Speaker 1: are used to get out of jail free cards. What 1442 01:22:47,080 --> 01:22:50,600 Speaker 1: the what these you know, these groups of criminal enterprises 1443 01:22:50,640 --> 01:22:53,360 Speaker 1: will do is they'll steal these paintings and they'll have them, 1444 01:22:53,360 --> 01:22:55,240 Speaker 1: and I'll try to monetize them. But if they can't, 1445 01:22:55,240 --> 01:22:57,760 Speaker 1: they'll just maintain them and at some point when they 1446 01:22:57,760 --> 01:22:59,760 Speaker 1: get caught for something else, which could be an arm 1447 01:23:00,120 --> 01:23:02,000 Speaker 1: read could be you know, drug deals, it could be 1448 01:23:02,040 --> 01:23:05,240 Speaker 1: aren't weapons and selling weapons and guns and that type 1449 01:23:05,240 --> 01:23:07,280 Speaker 1: of thing. When they get caught for something else, they 1450 01:23:07,320 --> 01:23:08,840 Speaker 1: turn around and try to make a deal with the 1451 01:23:08,920 --> 01:23:13,080 Speaker 1: prosecutors in those countries to produce these artworks to get 1452 01:23:13,160 --> 01:23:16,160 Speaker 1: lessons sentences. So it's like they're holding Mona Lisa hostage 1453 01:23:16,160 --> 01:23:19,439 Speaker 1: in the basement. It's yeah, they've I've seen him trying 1454 01:23:19,479 --> 01:23:21,640 Speaker 1: to do that. Um, I guess it doesn't work in 1455 01:23:21,680 --> 01:23:24,120 Speaker 1: the United States because that's obstruction and justice, and then 1456 01:23:24,320 --> 01:23:26,559 Speaker 1: the prosecutors can't make those kind of deals. But in 1457 01:23:26,640 --> 01:23:31,280 Speaker 1: places like Eastern Europe, you know, there are different uh laws, 1458 01:23:31,400 --> 01:23:33,759 Speaker 1: different systems, and they can make these kind of deals. 1459 01:23:33,840 --> 01:23:36,240 Speaker 1: It's it's an amazing thing. When it comes to property crime. 1460 01:23:36,760 --> 01:23:39,360 Speaker 1: You give an example in Japan, if you buy a 1461 01:23:39,360 --> 01:23:43,000 Speaker 1: piece of stolen property, if you maintain that for two years, 1462 01:23:43,160 --> 01:23:44,800 Speaker 1: if you have it for two years, you actually you 1463 01:23:44,840 --> 01:23:48,160 Speaker 1: actually get good title, whereas say in the Britain, Britain 1464 01:23:48,280 --> 01:23:51,120 Speaker 1: or the United States, because of our our systems, you 1465 01:23:51,120 --> 01:23:54,120 Speaker 1: can never get good title to stolen property. It doesn't pass. 1466 01:23:54,600 --> 01:23:57,559 Speaker 1: So it's always stolen and tell me about your your 1467 01:23:57,560 --> 01:24:01,040 Speaker 1: international best seller, The Devil's Diary Alfred Rosenberg and the 1468 01:24:01,080 --> 01:24:04,640 Speaker 1: Stolen Secrets of the Third Right just came out right right. Well. 1469 01:24:04,640 --> 01:24:06,960 Speaker 1: The first book, Priceless, was a memoir of my career, 1470 01:24:07,120 --> 01:24:09,360 Speaker 1: my twenty years at the FBI, and they recovery all 1471 01:24:09,400 --> 01:24:12,519 Speaker 1: of these artworks. I started a company in two thousand 1472 01:24:12,479 --> 01:24:14,760 Speaker 1: and eight called Robert Woodman Incorporated. And what we do 1473 01:24:14,840 --> 01:24:17,200 Speaker 1: is we do these types of investigations. In fact, I 1474 01:24:17,280 --> 01:24:19,920 Speaker 1: still and following a few leads right now on the 1475 01:24:20,080 --> 01:24:22,760 Speaker 1: on the Gardener paintings. And um, that's why I'm telling you. 1476 01:24:22,760 --> 01:24:24,960 Speaker 1: I don't think they're in the Ireland. I think there's 1477 01:24:24,960 --> 01:24:28,160 Speaker 1: somewhere else. But anyway, I can't I can't divulge that. 1478 01:24:28,439 --> 01:24:30,920 Speaker 1: And that's another thing about that story which is strange, Buck, 1479 01:24:31,040 --> 01:24:33,439 Speaker 1: is that you know, if if an investigator is getting 1480 01:24:33,479 --> 01:24:36,120 Speaker 1: close to getting paintings, the last thing you're gonna do 1481 01:24:36,280 --> 01:24:39,479 Speaker 1: is put that out in the press until after you've 1482 01:24:39,479 --> 01:24:42,240 Speaker 1: gotten the paintings. You see, what I'm saying, to tip 1483 01:24:42,280 --> 01:24:46,200 Speaker 1: off these people is not a good idea. So sometimes 1484 01:24:46,240 --> 01:24:48,880 Speaker 1: you know, people will make claims and whatnot, and the 1485 01:24:49,000 --> 01:24:51,400 Speaker 1: idea is to try to get publicity. But as far 1486 01:24:51,400 --> 01:24:53,920 Speaker 1: as the Double's Diary was concerned, we recovered that in 1487 01:24:53,960 --> 01:24:58,599 Speaker 1: two thousand and thirteen that's actually the handwritten four page 1488 01:24:58,680 --> 01:25:02,320 Speaker 1: diary of Alfred rosen Burke, who was the chief philosopher 1489 01:25:02,360 --> 01:25:05,760 Speaker 1: and civil scientists for Adolf Hitler. And in fact, many 1490 01:25:05,800 --> 01:25:09,360 Speaker 1: people believe that Adolf Hitler was turned into the Hitler 1491 01:25:09,439 --> 01:25:12,720 Speaker 1: that we know by Alfred Rosenberg and his theories. Uh. 1492 01:25:12,720 --> 01:25:15,559 Speaker 1: He was the philosopher for the Nazi parties in the 1493 01:25:15,640 --> 01:25:19,040 Speaker 1: nineteen twenties and actually proselytized Hitler and brought it under 1494 01:25:19,040 --> 01:25:21,880 Speaker 1: his wearing bright wing and gave him the ideas that 1495 01:25:22,040 --> 01:25:24,840 Speaker 1: we now know we're part of the Nazi Party. So 1496 01:25:24,920 --> 01:25:27,640 Speaker 1: we recovered that diary was stolen during the Second World War. 1497 01:25:27,720 --> 01:25:29,160 Speaker 1: Right at the end of the Second World we're at 1498 01:25:29,200 --> 01:25:32,559 Speaker 1: the Narenberg tros By one of the federal prosecutors who 1499 01:25:32,640 --> 01:25:36,320 Speaker 1: was there and I was missing from ninety seven until 1500 01:25:36,320 --> 01:25:38,880 Speaker 1: two thousand thirteen. But we were able to recover in 1501 01:25:38,880 --> 01:25:42,759 Speaker 1: the book chronicles the investigation and recovery and what's actually 1502 01:25:42,800 --> 01:25:45,320 Speaker 1: in the diary. And that's what's really important, because you know, 1503 01:25:45,360 --> 01:25:49,000 Speaker 1: we're talking about firsthand, you know, information from a primary 1504 01:25:49,120 --> 01:25:52,040 Speaker 1: source of the Second World War guy at the highest 1505 01:25:52,120 --> 01:25:54,960 Speaker 1: levels of the Third Reich and his own private thoughts 1506 01:25:54,960 --> 01:25:57,160 Speaker 1: that he wrote for for over ten years and four 1507 01:25:57,200 --> 01:26:01,000 Speaker 1: hundred pages. How much is that diary worth, by the way, Well, 1508 01:26:01,040 --> 01:26:03,479 Speaker 1: you know, it's priceless, uh. And the reason for that 1509 01:26:03,600 --> 01:26:06,960 Speaker 1: is because the information within the diary is what's what's 1510 01:26:07,000 --> 01:26:09,120 Speaker 1: so priceless. I mean, you know, that's why it was 1511 01:26:09,160 --> 01:26:10,920 Speaker 1: so important to get it back. Actually, we did it 1512 01:26:10,960 --> 01:26:13,880 Speaker 1: for the US Holocaust Museum and they have it now. 1513 01:26:13,960 --> 01:26:16,479 Speaker 1: And it was so important to see what Rosenberg was 1514 01:26:16,520 --> 01:26:19,840 Speaker 1: saying because he talks about his actual meetings with Hitler 1515 01:26:19,880 --> 01:26:22,519 Speaker 1: and lunches with Hitler and tells about what was talked 1516 01:26:22,520 --> 01:26:24,960 Speaker 1: about at these meetings and lunches. So you have a 1517 01:26:24,960 --> 01:26:27,880 Speaker 1: primary source document for what was going on and how 1518 01:26:27,960 --> 01:26:30,559 Speaker 1: Hitler decided to do what he did. I'm gonna ask 1519 01:26:30,560 --> 01:26:32,240 Speaker 1: you about for one second, to just be your your 1520 01:26:32,240 --> 01:26:36,280 Speaker 1: own art critic. Here. Of all the pieces that you recovered, 1521 01:26:36,840 --> 01:26:41,160 Speaker 1: which was either the most beautiful, the most valuable, or both, Well, 1522 01:26:41,200 --> 01:26:44,240 Speaker 1: it's uh, you know those are those are tough question. 1523 01:26:44,240 --> 01:26:48,360 Speaker 1: The most valuable piece I ever recovered was a original, uh, 1524 01:26:48,840 --> 01:26:51,040 Speaker 1: not even a copy. It was one of original handwritten 1525 01:26:51,600 --> 01:26:55,320 Speaker 1: um addition of the Bill of Rights uh yes, sent 1526 01:26:55,439 --> 01:26:57,599 Speaker 1: to the state of North Carolina in seventeen eighty nine 1527 01:26:57,600 --> 01:27:01,439 Speaker 1: by George Washington. It was sent for ratifica. The State 1528 01:27:01,479 --> 01:27:04,200 Speaker 1: House kept it and Raleigh it was signed by John 1529 01:27:04,240 --> 01:27:06,720 Speaker 1: Adams and it was stolen believe it or not in 1530 01:27:06,760 --> 01:27:09,679 Speaker 1: eighteen sixty five by a Union trooper who was coming 1531 01:27:09,720 --> 01:27:13,040 Speaker 1: back with Sherman's troops from Atlanta. Well, they stopped and 1532 01:27:13,120 --> 01:27:15,960 Speaker 1: Raleigh took over the state capitol, and basically that's how 1533 01:27:15,960 --> 01:27:18,599 Speaker 1: they took over North Carolina. One of the troopers went 1534 01:27:18,640 --> 01:27:20,840 Speaker 1: into the state House and installed the Bill of Rights 1535 01:27:21,040 --> 01:27:23,160 Speaker 1: and took it back to Indiana with him, And it 1536 01:27:23,240 --> 01:27:25,120 Speaker 1: was missing all the way up til two thousand and 1537 01:27:25,160 --> 01:27:27,519 Speaker 1: three when we recovered an undercover operation when they were 1538 01:27:27,520 --> 01:27:30,720 Speaker 1: trying to sell it to the National Constitution Center in Philadelphia. 1539 01:27:31,280 --> 01:27:35,040 Speaker 1: So Bob Whitman and can be said, everybody rescued the 1540 01:27:35,040 --> 01:27:39,880 Speaker 1: Bill of Rights. So there you go, Age and I swow, 1541 01:27:40,360 --> 01:27:42,200 Speaker 1: you know, in allegiance to the Constitution, but I never 1542 01:27:42,200 --> 01:27:44,160 Speaker 1: I know I actually had in my hand. There you go. 1543 01:27:44,479 --> 01:27:47,720 Speaker 1: Very cool, Bob, women, everybody check out his books. Priceless 1544 01:27:47,720 --> 01:27:51,080 Speaker 1: how I went undercover to Rescue the World. Stolen Treasures 1545 01:27:51,120 --> 01:27:54,879 Speaker 1: and the Devil's Diary Alfred Rosenberg and the Stolen Secrets 1546 01:27:54,920 --> 01:27:58,160 Speaker 1: of the Third Reich available on Amazon or fine bookstores everywhere. Bob, 1547 01:27:58,160 --> 01:27:59,519 Speaker 1: great to talk to you, man, Thank you so much, 1548 01:27:59,560 --> 01:28:01,720 Speaker 1: and have a good again. Thanks good to you, and 1549 01:28:01,760 --> 01:28:06,679 Speaker 1: I appreciate the opportunity to speaking absolutely Alright, team, um, 1550 01:28:06,720 --> 01:28:09,960 Speaker 1: you know it's uh, it's bustill day, so I'm gonna 1551 01:28:09,960 --> 01:28:11,960 Speaker 1: give you a little bus still day history. Also gonna 1552 01:28:12,000 --> 01:28:14,640 Speaker 1: talk to you about a little funny French national anthem, 1553 01:28:14,840 --> 01:28:18,439 Speaker 1: uh mess up that happened recently, and much more. Stay 1554 01:28:18,439 --> 01:28:24,439 Speaker 1: with me, all right, everybody. He's fired up about the week. 1555 01:28:25,040 --> 01:28:27,760 Speaker 1: Still fired Up with Jimmy Paila, New York City cab 1556 01:28:27,840 --> 01:28:30,760 Speaker 1: driver turned professional stand up comic and radio host of 1557 01:28:30,760 --> 01:28:34,000 Speaker 1: Off the Meter with Jimmy Fayla. Jimmy, good to have you, sir. 1558 01:28:34,760 --> 01:28:37,160 Speaker 1: How you living man, I'm out here in Colorado this week. 1559 01:28:37,240 --> 01:28:40,840 Speaker 1: I'm on the road book and uh, you know it's 1560 01:28:40,840 --> 01:28:44,599 Speaker 1: good living out here. I'm fired up. Nobody around me is, though. 1561 01:28:45,680 --> 01:28:47,400 Speaker 1: Do you ever go to a comedy club and you're like, 1562 01:28:47,439 --> 01:28:49,200 Speaker 1: you know, guys, uh, you know that they do that 1563 01:28:49,200 --> 01:28:51,840 Speaker 1: thing where they're they say it's beautiful. Well you're a 1564 01:28:51,840 --> 01:28:54,920 Speaker 1: great audience, you know, Albuquerque. Do you ever go in 1565 01:28:55,000 --> 01:28:59,719 Speaker 1: somewhere and you're like, Hey, what's what's up? Um St Paul? 1566 01:29:00,120 --> 01:29:02,679 Speaker 1: You guys are kind of boring. Does that ever happen 1567 01:29:02,800 --> 01:29:07,599 Speaker 1: or not? Never? Let's never do this again. Yeah, that's uh, 1568 01:29:07,680 --> 01:29:09,439 Speaker 1: that does go on. That does go on. But no 1569 01:29:09,520 --> 01:29:13,000 Speaker 1: out here where I'm at right now, you know, people, 1570 01:29:13,160 --> 01:29:14,760 Speaker 1: you know I'm not a weak guy. You're not a 1571 01:29:14,760 --> 01:29:17,200 Speaker 1: weak guy. It's a weird place to open a conversation. 1572 01:29:17,560 --> 01:29:21,439 Speaker 1: But out here in Colorado everything moves so slow. Nobody 1573 01:29:21,479 --> 01:29:23,880 Speaker 1: thought about that when they were like, yeah, legalized, weird 1574 01:29:23,920 --> 01:29:25,879 Speaker 1: people who enjoy it will be great. We'll get tourism. 1575 01:29:26,280 --> 01:29:29,479 Speaker 1: But I've basically my drive from Denver to Glenwood Springs, 1576 01:29:29,479 --> 01:29:32,760 Speaker 1: which should take an hour, has taken four because everybody's 1577 01:29:32,760 --> 01:29:36,120 Speaker 1: pulling over the hatchet conspiracy theory every three miles. It's 1578 01:29:36,160 --> 01:29:39,880 Speaker 1: crazy town. Does every does everyone in uh in Colorado 1579 01:29:39,960 --> 01:29:43,240 Speaker 1: these days, weed or no weed think that President Trump 1580 01:29:43,280 --> 01:29:48,120 Speaker 1: is whispering into his sleeve in Russian or something? Yeah, 1581 01:29:48,160 --> 01:29:50,679 Speaker 1: I know everybody at CNN does, like, oh my god, 1582 01:29:50,880 --> 01:29:53,640 Speaker 1: they're they're they're practically at this point, blaming him for 1583 01:29:53,680 --> 01:29:57,280 Speaker 1: the National League losing the All Star Game. Uh, it's 1584 01:29:57,360 --> 01:30:00,800 Speaker 1: this week more than any weak man was really, I 1585 01:30:00,840 --> 01:30:05,120 Speaker 1: thought the ultimate call to sobriety from the standpoint of 1586 01:30:05,520 --> 01:30:11,920 Speaker 1: both sides. Really both sides went into this extremest position 1587 01:30:12,120 --> 01:30:14,800 Speaker 1: where it was like the Democrats felt like, all right, 1588 01:30:14,840 --> 01:30:18,799 Speaker 1: well this, this was the absolute concrete proof that Trump's Russian, 1589 01:30:18,880 --> 01:30:21,160 Speaker 1: and you know, we're all doomed. And then on the right, 1590 01:30:21,320 --> 01:30:23,439 Speaker 1: you know, the attempt to say that this was nothing 1591 01:30:23,479 --> 01:30:26,200 Speaker 1: at all. I I also thought was a little bit 1592 01:30:26,200 --> 01:30:29,759 Speaker 1: of a stretch. You know, um, Donald Trump, Juniors Lyne. 1593 01:30:29,840 --> 01:30:31,280 Speaker 1: You know, when he was on Hannity the other night, 1594 01:30:32,000 --> 01:30:35,000 Speaker 1: he said, I can't help what people send me. It 1595 01:30:35,080 --> 01:30:37,080 Speaker 1: really is the funniest thing in the world. You know. 1596 01:30:37,320 --> 01:30:39,880 Speaker 1: Can you imagine my wife comes home, I'm hanging out 1597 01:30:39,920 --> 01:30:42,240 Speaker 1: with a girl and I'm like, hey, my buddy sent 1598 01:30:42,320 --> 01:30:46,200 Speaker 1: me this. I can't help what people say people send me, Jenny. 1599 01:30:46,240 --> 01:30:48,160 Speaker 1: I you know, I've got no idea here. We'll see. 1600 01:30:48,240 --> 01:30:50,360 Speaker 1: I think at this point there's there's maybe some wisdom 1601 01:30:50,400 --> 01:30:54,880 Speaker 1: to to Donald Trump. Uh Senior just or Junior just 1602 01:30:54,960 --> 01:30:57,559 Speaker 1: leaning into it and show up, you know, wearing like 1603 01:30:57,680 --> 01:31:00,519 Speaker 1: an Adida's track suit and a big gold chain and 1604 01:31:00,600 --> 01:31:03,439 Speaker 1: just be like you you don't We've got the little 1605 01:31:03,479 --> 01:31:05,439 Speaker 1: friends back in Moscow, you know what I mean? Just 1606 01:31:05,439 --> 01:31:08,519 Speaker 1: just go with it? Would you? Would you lend him 1607 01:31:08,560 --> 01:31:10,400 Speaker 1: one of your Adidas track suits? Is that really an 1608 01:31:10,400 --> 01:31:12,639 Speaker 1: option we're talking about here? I mean, I try not 1609 01:31:12,720 --> 01:31:16,439 Speaker 1: to share them because mine are obviously, uh, specifically fitted 1610 01:31:16,439 --> 01:31:18,920 Speaker 1: for for me. But that's not a bad idea there. 1611 01:31:19,080 --> 01:31:21,120 Speaker 1: But I just wonder when people get bored of it, Jim, 1612 01:31:21,160 --> 01:31:23,640 Speaker 1: I mean that's really I see all this stuff going 1613 01:31:23,680 --> 01:31:26,120 Speaker 1: on in CNN, and I know they're applying to their constituency, 1614 01:31:26,120 --> 01:31:28,479 Speaker 1: which I think is getting smaller and smaller now, because 1615 01:31:28,720 --> 01:31:30,880 Speaker 1: if you're going to watch the full on left wing 1616 01:31:31,280 --> 01:31:35,639 Speaker 1: propaganda machinery at work, why not just watch MSNBC. Yeah, 1617 01:31:35,920 --> 01:31:37,840 Speaker 1: but you know, I see this stuff going on, and 1618 01:31:37,880 --> 01:31:40,160 Speaker 1: I don't want to think to myself, is don't people 1619 01:31:40,160 --> 01:31:41,720 Speaker 1: get sick of hearing about this? But I guess not, 1620 01:31:41,760 --> 01:31:43,360 Speaker 1: because if you think that Trump is a trader and 1621 01:31:43,400 --> 01:31:46,920 Speaker 1: he's working for Russia, this is anything that that confirms 1622 01:31:46,920 --> 01:31:49,200 Speaker 1: that in your mind gets you excited. Right, That's the 1623 01:31:49,200 --> 01:31:52,120 Speaker 1: way this breaks down. Yeah, That's that's the big thing. 1624 01:31:52,200 --> 01:31:54,679 Speaker 1: But for them, what I'm finding to be really funny, 1625 01:31:54,880 --> 01:31:57,000 Speaker 1: and we were talking about this on Kennedy the other night, 1626 01:31:57,479 --> 01:32:01,200 Speaker 1: is that they finally have something that that looks like 1627 01:32:01,280 --> 01:32:04,400 Speaker 1: it could be even just remotely substantive. I don't think 1628 01:32:04,400 --> 01:32:07,760 Speaker 1: it is, But the problem is they've had so many 1629 01:32:07,880 --> 01:32:11,439 Speaker 1: false starts on this story that they finally got to 1630 01:32:11,520 --> 01:32:14,680 Speaker 1: a point which it was something of substance that might 1631 01:32:14,720 --> 01:32:17,880 Speaker 1: actually bolster their case or at least further the call 1632 01:32:18,000 --> 01:32:21,360 Speaker 1: for an investigation. But everyone's tuned them out on this 1633 01:32:21,920 --> 01:32:23,479 Speaker 1: because they've just you know what I mean, they've just 1634 01:32:23,560 --> 01:32:26,240 Speaker 1: heard it too much at this point. It's almost like 1635 01:32:26,880 --> 01:32:30,280 Speaker 1: if you're running it a Russian conspiracy theory today, it's 1636 01:32:30,280 --> 01:32:32,880 Speaker 1: like challenging someone to do the ice Bucket challenge like 1637 01:32:32,960 --> 01:32:35,200 Speaker 1: two years later. Like they're like, yeah, I get it, 1638 01:32:35,240 --> 01:32:37,800 Speaker 1: that was a thing, but we're not really doing that, 1639 01:32:37,880 --> 01:32:40,840 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Nobody's emotionally invested anymore. And 1640 01:32:41,120 --> 01:32:43,519 Speaker 1: I found that part to be funny because this kind 1641 01:32:43,560 --> 01:32:47,519 Speaker 1: of is their super Bowl, you know, and uh, they're 1642 01:32:47,520 --> 01:32:50,479 Speaker 1: not really getting the Super Bowl response from America because 1643 01:32:50,479 --> 01:32:53,040 Speaker 1: the average person, and this is what everybody forgets, the 1644 01:32:53,080 --> 01:32:55,479 Speaker 1: average vote of the average person. They want to see 1645 01:32:55,520 --> 01:32:57,880 Speaker 1: things get done. They want to see legislation, they want 1646 01:32:57,880 --> 01:33:00,160 Speaker 1: to see you know, they want to see them do something. 1647 01:33:00,320 --> 01:33:02,760 Speaker 1: Healthcare obviously taps or for him. They don't really care 1648 01:33:02,800 --> 01:33:07,080 Speaker 1: about relitigating the election, you know at this point. And 1649 01:33:07,120 --> 01:33:09,120 Speaker 1: that's where I think, you know, I hate using the 1650 01:33:09,240 --> 01:33:12,080 Speaker 1: term jump the shark, you know, but maybe they taught 1651 01:33:12,120 --> 01:33:14,400 Speaker 1: the shark to speak Russia. Maybe we'll change with the 1652 01:33:14,400 --> 01:33:16,640 Speaker 1: cliche or something like that. Can you work with me 1653 01:33:16,680 --> 01:33:18,800 Speaker 1: in your tracks, fuit Buck Saxon. I'm in a pickle here. 1654 01:33:20,240 --> 01:33:21,760 Speaker 1: I'm just letting you do your thing. Man. I don't 1655 01:33:21,760 --> 01:33:23,759 Speaker 1: want to get in the way of the genius. Uh. 1656 01:33:23,800 --> 01:33:27,840 Speaker 1: But nonetheless, I think that one one aspect of this 1657 01:33:27,920 --> 01:33:31,280 Speaker 1: that might be really interesting is let's say that there 1658 01:33:31,360 --> 01:33:37,160 Speaker 1: is a criminal prosecution of somebody tied to Trump and Trump, uh, 1659 01:33:37,560 --> 01:33:41,600 Speaker 1: Trump decides to pardon that person, which he can completely do, 1660 01:33:41,680 --> 01:33:43,120 Speaker 1: by the way. That That's what I think one of 1661 01:33:43,160 --> 01:33:44,880 Speaker 1: the interesting things about all this is that. And by 1662 01:33:44,880 --> 01:33:46,320 Speaker 1: the way, and I think he absolutely first of all, 1663 01:33:46,320 --> 01:33:49,080 Speaker 1: if it involves a family member, Will does no matter 1664 01:33:49,080 --> 01:33:51,400 Speaker 1: what the media says, and he can they can't stop him. 1665 01:33:51,479 --> 01:33:54,960 Speaker 1: He has the absolute power of pardon. So any criminal 1666 01:33:55,000 --> 01:33:58,200 Speaker 1: investigation or any criminal prosecution rather that comes out of 1667 01:33:58,200 --> 01:34:02,599 Speaker 1: the Special Counsel's investigation can be nullified. So no one's 1668 01:34:02,600 --> 01:34:04,760 Speaker 1: going to prison, is what you know. Unless Trump let 1669 01:34:04,840 --> 01:34:06,519 Speaker 1: somebody get thrown under the bus. He doesn't really care 1670 01:34:06,520 --> 01:34:09,040 Speaker 1: about no one's going to prison. I think we could 1671 01:34:09,120 --> 01:34:11,840 Speaker 1: see a reality where they pushed charges against somebody and 1672 01:34:11,880 --> 01:34:13,439 Speaker 1: we've all got a minute here, Jimmy, but what is 1673 01:34:13,479 --> 01:34:16,719 Speaker 1: your response to this where he pardoned somebody and still 1674 01:34:16,720 --> 01:34:20,360 Speaker 1: wins reelection, and then I think Democrats completely lose their minds. Yeah, 1675 01:34:20,360 --> 01:34:22,400 Speaker 1: that's when the mounthdout starts. Well, that's the part of this. 1676 01:34:22,520 --> 01:34:25,639 Speaker 1: I think that's boss on everybody is Trump is a 1677 01:34:25,640 --> 01:34:28,920 Speaker 1: is a dad, and he's really turned the presidency into 1678 01:34:29,200 --> 01:34:32,240 Speaker 1: a convenience, and that he's eliminated all of his Christmas 1679 01:34:32,240 --> 01:34:35,960 Speaker 1: shopping and birthday shopping by handing out security clearances and 1680 01:34:36,240 --> 01:34:40,280 Speaker 1: presidential pardons, and Jared and Navanka got an anniversary president 1681 01:34:40,360 --> 01:34:43,200 Speaker 1: by both getting offices in the White House. It's he's 1682 01:34:43,240 --> 01:34:44,960 Speaker 1: just a dad. I think that's what's lost in all 1683 01:34:45,000 --> 01:34:47,040 Speaker 1: of this. Everybody thinks he's like a Russian, you know, 1684 01:34:47,120 --> 01:34:50,040 Speaker 1: mull trying to overthrow the country. Actually think he's part 1685 01:34:50,120 --> 01:34:54,120 Speaker 1: lazy dad and he really enjoys he and he enjoys 1686 01:34:54,160 --> 01:34:56,479 Speaker 1: the skirmish more than anybody I've ever seen. You know. 1687 01:34:56,479 --> 01:34:57,840 Speaker 1: He talk about a guy who has a knows for 1688 01:34:57,880 --> 01:35:01,040 Speaker 1: the ball. He's having a great time. Nobody's having more 1689 01:35:01,080 --> 01:35:03,439 Speaker 1: fun than him except maybe me. When I come on 1690 01:35:03,479 --> 01:35:07,240 Speaker 1: the book Sexton shows, there we go, man Perfect, Jimmy faila. 1691 01:35:07,320 --> 01:35:10,880 Speaker 1: Everybody check out the Jimmy Fail show Off the Meter 1692 01:35:10,920 --> 01:35:13,760 Speaker 1: with Jimmy Fail. And also he's got a special on Netflix, sir, 1693 01:35:13,920 --> 01:35:18,000 Speaker 1: have fun in Colorado. Enjoy it responsibly, the state. Enjoy 1694 01:35:18,080 --> 01:35:21,240 Speaker 1: the state responsibly. Thank you, sir, good to have you on. 1695 01:35:22,200 --> 01:35:24,720 Speaker 1: All right, team, we're gonna hit a break. We'll be 1696 01:35:25,040 --> 01:35:35,800 Speaker 1: right back from their relationship. And before you answer that, 1697 01:35:35,880 --> 01:35:37,840 Speaker 1: let's just listen into the French national anthem for just 1698 01:35:37,920 --> 01:35:43,400 Speaker 1: a moment. M h, French national anthem. Wait a second? 1699 01:35:45,080 --> 01:35:54,200 Speaker 1: Set way for it us. Oh yeah, there we go. 1700 01:35:55,439 --> 01:35:59,559 Speaker 1: CNN reporter Poppy Harlow who used to occasionally have me 1701 01:35:59,680 --> 01:36:04,120 Speaker 1: on TV so she could specifically say things like conservative 1702 01:36:04,160 --> 01:36:06,840 Speaker 1: political commentator, And when I would ask her, why is 1703 01:36:06,880 --> 01:36:10,840 Speaker 1: the Democrat just called the political commentator, she would look 1704 01:36:10,880 --> 01:36:15,639 Speaker 1: at me like, uh, but yeah, I love that. Leave 1705 01:36:15,640 --> 01:36:18,320 Speaker 1: it to CNN to have an anchor who's like, now, 1706 01:36:18,400 --> 01:36:21,639 Speaker 1: the French national anthem. Now, I know what they would say, right, 1707 01:36:21,680 --> 01:36:25,360 Speaker 1: I understand what the response here would be. Buck, come on, 1708 01:36:25,800 --> 01:36:30,400 Speaker 1: don't be unfair. She was just not paying attention for 1709 01:36:30,439 --> 01:36:34,040 Speaker 1: a second. But no, no, no, it went on for 1710 01:36:34,200 --> 01:36:36,559 Speaker 1: it went on for a few beats there. And I'm 1711 01:36:36,560 --> 01:36:39,240 Speaker 1: sure she had the feed in her ear and her earpiece. 1712 01:36:39,280 --> 01:36:43,720 Speaker 1: I know because I've been in these situations. Uh. Just look, 1713 01:36:43,760 --> 01:36:46,479 Speaker 1: I understand. I understand that she can tell the difference, probably, 1714 01:36:46,520 --> 01:36:49,840 Speaker 1: But it is funny that we we went on there 1715 01:36:49,880 --> 01:36:53,120 Speaker 1: for a few minutes. Now, let's listen to the French 1716 01:36:53,200 --> 01:36:59,800 Speaker 1: national anthem. Oh say, can you see? Yeah, that's not 1717 01:36:59,840 --> 01:37:05,360 Speaker 1: the French national anthem, is it? Oh? Man? Yeah? Good times, 1718 01:37:05,400 --> 01:37:07,760 Speaker 1: good times over at CNN. Been been a rough month 1719 01:37:07,800 --> 01:37:10,280 Speaker 1: over there. I'm not gonna lie, it's been. It's been 1720 01:37:10,320 --> 01:37:15,000 Speaker 1: some tough stuff for the CNN of late, and like, 1721 01:37:15,040 --> 01:37:17,040 Speaker 1: I think, overall, it's a good thing. I mean, I 1722 01:37:17,120 --> 01:37:19,879 Speaker 1: might try to watch a little bit of the Sunday 1723 01:37:19,880 --> 01:37:23,200 Speaker 1: talk shows this weekend, just because I want to get 1724 01:37:23,200 --> 01:37:25,760 Speaker 1: a sense of what the narrative will be for the 1725 01:37:25,800 --> 01:37:30,000 Speaker 1: days ahead about the Russia Trump stuff, and they said 1726 01:37:30,080 --> 01:37:32,000 Speaker 1: they they really do set up what the rest of 1727 01:37:32,000 --> 01:37:35,880 Speaker 1: the stories will be. I have to say that CNN, 1728 01:37:36,360 --> 01:37:39,599 Speaker 1: from my discussions recently with friends who still work there, 1729 01:37:40,520 --> 01:37:44,320 Speaker 1: is has taken a pretty dramatic change. It has it 1730 01:37:44,360 --> 01:37:48,000 Speaker 1: has shifted and now it's a place where to be 1731 01:37:48,280 --> 01:37:52,720 Speaker 1: a in any way pro Trump voice is to be 1732 01:37:52,760 --> 01:37:54,840 Speaker 1: part is to be a problem. Actually, I mean, you 1733 01:37:54,880 --> 01:37:58,559 Speaker 1: are rowing against the rest of the boat. You're you're 1734 01:37:58,600 --> 01:38:01,760 Speaker 1: going in the wrong direction. Nobody wants any of that. 1735 01:38:01,840 --> 01:38:04,120 Speaker 1: But I just thought that was pretty That was a 1736 01:38:04,120 --> 01:38:06,439 Speaker 1: fun That was a fun moment there. Uh yeah, that 1737 01:38:06,520 --> 01:38:10,400 Speaker 1: was seen an anchor Poppy Harlow, who you know there. 1738 01:38:10,560 --> 01:38:13,200 Speaker 1: There are some people who you know. I'm like, hm hmm, 1739 01:38:13,840 --> 01:38:18,200 Speaker 1: what exactly is the expertise or the draw here? And 1740 01:38:18,240 --> 01:38:19,960 Speaker 1: I just I just don't get it. Did it? Did 1741 01:38:19,960 --> 01:38:22,280 Speaker 1: her show a lot, But not because she particularly was 1742 01:38:22,360 --> 01:38:24,480 Speaker 1: fond of me. It just that they needed a conservative 1743 01:38:24,479 --> 01:38:27,040 Speaker 1: on the weekends who would come in in person and 1744 01:38:27,360 --> 01:38:32,799 Speaker 1: uh deal with being interrupted and being dismissed and unfair treatment. 1745 01:38:32,880 --> 01:38:34,720 Speaker 1: So I have to say it's it's a very the 1746 01:38:34,760 --> 01:38:38,800 Speaker 1: same way that going to a small liberal arts college 1747 01:38:38,840 --> 01:38:40,760 Speaker 1: where everybody was a Democrat. I think made me a 1748 01:38:40,840 --> 01:38:44,760 Speaker 1: much better conservative. Working as a conservative for a couple 1749 01:38:44,760 --> 01:38:48,360 Speaker 1: of years at CNN has made me much better at 1750 01:38:48,439 --> 01:38:51,639 Speaker 1: my job now because I know all their dirty tricks, 1751 01:38:51,720 --> 01:38:55,200 Speaker 1: I know all the ambush techniques. I know what you 1752 01:38:55,240 --> 01:38:58,160 Speaker 1: can expect over there and how they play the game. 1753 01:38:58,680 --> 01:39:00,960 Speaker 1: And so also when you have the oh, these all 1754 01:39:00,960 --> 01:39:04,480 Speaker 1: these puffed up chests with it, we're a bunch of journalists. 1755 01:39:04,479 --> 01:39:07,120 Speaker 1: How how dare you think that we have some agenda here? 1756 01:39:07,120 --> 01:39:10,599 Speaker 1: I'm like, guys, please, I've I've sat in I've heard 1757 01:39:10,600 --> 01:39:13,040 Speaker 1: the meetings, I've seen the talking points, I've been in 1758 01:39:13,040 --> 01:39:16,920 Speaker 1: the green rooms, I've been on air. I've known and 1759 01:39:17,000 --> 01:39:19,639 Speaker 1: befriended producers who tell me everything that's going on behind 1760 01:39:19,640 --> 01:39:23,040 Speaker 1: the scenes. And that place is every bit as left 1761 01:39:23,040 --> 01:39:27,760 Speaker 1: wing as MSNBC. Every bit, every bit. Uh, And some 1762 01:39:27,840 --> 01:39:29,160 Speaker 1: of them can't tell the difference in the French and 1763 01:39:29,200 --> 01:39:31,000 Speaker 1: the American national anthem, at least for a few a 1764 01:39:31,000 --> 01:39:34,880 Speaker 1: few seconds. It's pretty funny. But Bastille Day, Bastille Day 1765 01:39:34,920 --> 01:39:37,360 Speaker 1: is today. We're gonna talk about that. In just a minute. 1766 01:39:37,360 --> 01:39:39,160 Speaker 1: I give you the history of Bastille Day before we 1767 01:39:39,160 --> 01:39:49,880 Speaker 1: close out the show. Stay with me. Hello Bion venue 1768 01:39:50,320 --> 01:39:54,479 Speaker 1: Nicki Buck, Welcome team Buck, great to have you here. 1769 01:39:55,920 --> 01:40:02,760 Speaker 1: Bastile Day today in France, it is there biggest national holiday. 1770 01:40:02,960 --> 01:40:05,680 Speaker 1: Before I get into a bit of the history of it, 1771 01:40:05,760 --> 01:40:10,880 Speaker 1: may we be lest til Bestie. Before I get into 1772 01:40:10,960 --> 01:40:15,040 Speaker 1: Bastille Day's history, Let's first be very clear that it 1773 01:40:15,240 --> 01:40:19,240 Speaker 1: is in fact not called bastill Day in France, or 1774 01:40:19,320 --> 01:40:21,400 Speaker 1: Bestie if you want to be a little more Frenchy. 1775 01:40:21,720 --> 01:40:25,240 Speaker 1: It is called la fete nacion now francs or fifth 1776 01:40:25,360 --> 01:40:34,200 Speaker 1: not Leafette du cattels Julle. It's the four of July 1777 01:40:34,400 --> 01:40:38,240 Speaker 1: holiday or just luck tels. I kind of messed that 1778 01:40:38,280 --> 01:40:41,200 Speaker 1: one up Lactels. There we got a little better. So 1779 01:40:42,280 --> 01:40:45,439 Speaker 1: here's what happened. Let's let's take this all the way back. 1780 01:40:45,560 --> 01:40:52,360 Speaker 1: Let's party like it's seventeen eighty nine. July seventeen eighty nine. 1781 01:40:52,400 --> 01:40:57,439 Speaker 1: There's this big, ugly medieval fortress actually built centuries before, 1782 01:40:57,960 --> 01:41:01,439 Speaker 1: in the middle of Paris, called the Best Deal. And 1783 01:41:02,120 --> 01:41:06,120 Speaker 1: you've got uh Louis the sixteenth, who's hanging out up 1784 01:41:06,160 --> 01:41:08,880 Speaker 1: at Versailles. And there's been some problems, you know, Versailles. 1785 01:41:09,000 --> 01:41:12,760 Speaker 1: Outside of Paris, there have been some problems recently with 1786 01:41:13,120 --> 01:41:17,640 Speaker 1: uh the peasants. There are all kinds of concerns and 1787 01:41:17,640 --> 01:41:22,360 Speaker 1: and anger over well, primarily taxation. There's a lot. I mean, 1788 01:41:22,360 --> 01:41:24,080 Speaker 1: I can't do a history of the French Revolution in 1789 01:41:24,160 --> 01:41:27,520 Speaker 1: like three minutes here. But the clergy and the nobility 1790 01:41:27,680 --> 01:41:31,360 Speaker 1: were free of taxes. And of course the French had 1791 01:41:31,400 --> 01:41:35,600 Speaker 1: just helped the Americans at considerable expense. Thanks guys, not 1792 01:41:36,600 --> 01:41:39,719 Speaker 1: to help you defeated English, anything to smack the English 1793 01:41:39,720 --> 01:41:43,120 Speaker 1: and a face. So they helped us out. You know, 1794 01:41:43,200 --> 01:41:47,599 Speaker 1: we have that debt to a General Lafayette. But they 1795 01:41:47,640 --> 01:41:50,680 Speaker 1: spent a lot of money, and they were bankrupt effectively, 1796 01:41:50,840 --> 01:41:54,000 Speaker 1: and they French people were being heavily taxed, and so 1797 01:41:54,080 --> 01:41:58,200 Speaker 1: there's a lot of discontent, you could say, on the streets. 1798 01:41:58,240 --> 01:42:01,200 Speaker 1: And so Louis the sixteenth is up at Versa, he's hunting, 1799 01:42:01,680 --> 01:42:06,799 Speaker 1: he is hanging out. And this is when a group 1800 01:42:06,880 --> 01:42:12,400 Speaker 1: got together and they decided that they would take matters 1801 01:42:12,400 --> 01:42:15,120 Speaker 1: into their own hands, because they had heard that Louis 1802 01:42:15,280 --> 01:42:19,479 Speaker 1: was preparing some kind of a military expedition or gathering 1803 01:42:19,479 --> 01:42:24,880 Speaker 1: military forces, and may uh season punished people. Also, they 1804 01:42:24,920 --> 01:42:28,920 Speaker 1: had dismissed a French minister of finance Louis had dismissed 1805 01:42:28,920 --> 01:42:32,400 Speaker 1: the French Minister of finance, Jacques Necker, who was actually 1806 01:42:32,439 --> 01:42:34,960 Speaker 1: not not French. I believe he was Swiss, and he 1807 01:42:35,040 --> 01:42:37,280 Speaker 1: was very popular with the people, and so that was 1808 01:42:37,320 --> 01:42:42,240 Speaker 1: another reason for what was effectively a mob to take 1809 01:42:42,400 --> 01:42:47,439 Speaker 1: matters into their own hands. Uh. This is, by the way. 1810 01:42:47,520 --> 01:42:49,240 Speaker 1: You know, you've got Louis the sixteenth at the time. 1811 01:42:49,479 --> 01:42:52,519 Speaker 1: His his wife is Marie Antoinette. She never actually said 1812 01:42:52,600 --> 01:42:56,160 Speaker 1: let them eat cake, by the way, So that's an 1813 01:42:56,160 --> 01:42:58,640 Speaker 1: important thing I believe to keep in mind about all 1814 01:42:58,680 --> 01:43:00,280 Speaker 1: of this, that there's some stories that come out the 1815 01:43:00,280 --> 01:43:03,160 Speaker 1: French Revolution that everyone still believes it's not really how 1816 01:43:03,200 --> 01:43:07,320 Speaker 1: it went. So the some peasants in France and some 1817 01:43:07,400 --> 01:43:11,559 Speaker 1: tradesmen actually some merchants and people who are craftsmen of 1818 01:43:11,600 --> 01:43:14,760 Speaker 1: different sorts, they gathered together and they go to a 1819 01:43:14,760 --> 01:43:19,280 Speaker 1: place called Les and Valid, uh the Invalids, which was 1820 01:43:19,360 --> 01:43:23,679 Speaker 1: a military retirement home in hospital for the wounded, and 1821 01:43:23,760 --> 01:43:27,760 Speaker 1: they just stormed it and grabbed thousands of muskets. But 1822 01:43:27,920 --> 01:43:33,640 Speaker 1: you see, with muskets you also need gunpowder, you need bullets, 1823 01:43:33,680 --> 01:43:36,599 Speaker 1: and so they didn't have what they needed, and they 1824 01:43:36,640 --> 01:43:40,280 Speaker 1: then decided to go and get the rest of this 1825 01:43:40,479 --> 01:43:43,680 Speaker 1: so that they could actually engage French soldiers. And by 1826 01:43:43,680 --> 01:43:48,000 Speaker 1: the way, at the time a lot of Louise military 1827 01:43:48,320 --> 01:43:54,800 Speaker 1: were were mercenaries. They were German and Swiss mercenaries, and 1828 01:43:54,840 --> 01:43:57,240 Speaker 1: so that also of course raised the ire of the 1829 01:43:57,240 --> 01:44:00,559 Speaker 1: people on the streets. And this mob that had gathered 1830 01:44:00,760 --> 01:44:04,160 Speaker 1: and you know who knows its exact origins, gathered together. 1831 01:44:04,360 --> 01:44:08,480 Speaker 1: It included, by the way, a group called Le poisal 1832 01:44:09,400 --> 01:44:11,840 Speaker 1: like Poisson is fish, and some people remember from The 1833 01:44:11,880 --> 01:44:17,519 Speaker 1: Little Mermaid, Les poisons, Les poisson he Les poisal were 1834 01:44:17,600 --> 01:44:23,680 Speaker 1: the female fishmongers, and they were later on after the 1835 01:44:23,720 --> 01:44:27,200 Speaker 1: best best steal day. It's really the best steal day 1836 01:44:27,240 --> 01:44:30,439 Speaker 1: massacre everybody, but I'll get there. Uh, they were running 1837 01:44:30,400 --> 01:44:34,400 Speaker 1: around Versailles chopping off heads with the long knives that 1838 01:44:34,439 --> 01:44:37,559 Speaker 1: they had previous been previously been using with great skill 1839 01:44:37,680 --> 01:44:41,880 Speaker 1: to gut and scale fish, and they were running around. 1840 01:44:41,920 --> 01:44:44,439 Speaker 1: They reportedly were running around screaming, saying that they wanted 1841 01:44:44,479 --> 01:44:48,200 Speaker 1: the actual head of Marie Antoinette, and later on that 1842 01:44:48,200 --> 01:44:52,440 Speaker 1: would happen, of course at uh well with la guiltine 1843 01:44:53,000 --> 01:44:56,639 Speaker 1: or the guillotine if you want to americanize it. So yeah, 1844 01:44:56,920 --> 01:45:02,280 Speaker 1: lovely people lay Plaisard. So they were supposedly getting ready 1845 01:45:02,280 --> 01:45:04,599 Speaker 1: for this expected crackdown. That's why they seized the muskets. 1846 01:45:04,600 --> 01:45:06,919 Speaker 1: This mob in Paris, you got Louis out at Versailles. 1847 01:45:06,920 --> 01:45:14,000 Speaker 1: This mob in Paris on July nine, Le Cattel's Julle 1848 01:45:14,640 --> 01:45:18,800 Speaker 1: en France, and they are running around and they decide, 1849 01:45:18,840 --> 01:45:20,600 Speaker 1: you know, we need to get gunpowder. You know, it 1850 01:45:20,600 --> 01:45:24,040 Speaker 1: would be a great target for us. This giant, hated 1851 01:45:24,160 --> 01:45:29,280 Speaker 1: prison known as the Bastille or Bastille which which was 1852 01:45:29,320 --> 01:45:33,599 Speaker 1: known to have gunpowder and shot, and that's what they needed. 1853 01:45:33,640 --> 01:45:37,479 Speaker 1: And it was also reputed that there were political prisoners 1854 01:45:37,520 --> 01:45:40,519 Speaker 1: kept there and that there were these letters, uh these 1855 01:45:40,600 --> 01:45:45,640 Speaker 1: letters let cache that the king could just put your 1856 01:45:45,720 --> 01:45:48,519 Speaker 1: name essentially in the sealed envelope, give it to his people, 1857 01:45:48,960 --> 01:45:51,000 Speaker 1: and you would be imprisoned. And it was thought that 1858 01:45:51,080 --> 01:45:54,400 Speaker 1: some of those political prisoners were kept at the Bastille. 1859 01:45:54,600 --> 01:45:57,439 Speaker 1: Marquis de Sad, by the way, who was a well 1860 01:45:57,520 --> 01:46:03,040 Speaker 1: known French literary pornographer, I guess we could say, was 1861 01:46:03,120 --> 01:46:06,240 Speaker 1: known to have stayed at La basti um or he 1862 01:46:06,280 --> 01:46:09,439 Speaker 1: had been there. Where's it, LIEBSTI pardon me, I'll get 1863 01:46:09,479 --> 01:46:14,120 Speaker 1: my masculine feminine gender articles messed up in French lot 1864 01:46:14,120 --> 01:46:15,840 Speaker 1: it's been a while, and the fact that they're even 1865 01:46:15,840 --> 01:46:18,880 Speaker 1: are masculine and feminine genders for French words, it just 1866 01:46:18,880 --> 01:46:21,839 Speaker 1: feels like a huge microaggression, guys. I mean, I'm literally 1867 01:46:21,840 --> 01:46:28,439 Speaker 1: shaking our end right now. So there are thousands of 1868 01:46:28,960 --> 01:46:33,679 Speaker 1: pounds of gunpowder kept at the Beastie and they want 1869 01:46:33,680 --> 01:46:35,400 Speaker 1: to get it. So there's an initial and of course 1870 01:46:35,439 --> 01:46:37,479 Speaker 1: there's all these rumors about how they they keep all 1871 01:46:37,479 --> 01:46:40,200 Speaker 1: these prisoners there, and there's terrible torture that goes on. 1872 01:46:40,439 --> 01:46:43,320 Speaker 1: So the Bastille, which is this big fortress ninety ft 1873 01:46:43,400 --> 01:46:46,559 Speaker 1: high walls stone, it's a medieval fortress and it's an 1874 01:46:46,600 --> 01:46:51,600 Speaker 1: old school castle, is thought to be this evil manifestation 1875 01:46:51,800 --> 01:46:55,360 Speaker 1: of Louis State and BT dubs by the way, they've 1876 01:46:55,400 --> 01:46:59,120 Speaker 1: also got gunpowder and shot there. So this mob decides 1877 01:46:59,160 --> 01:47:01,599 Speaker 1: that's where they're going to go. They try to breach 1878 01:47:01,640 --> 01:47:05,559 Speaker 1: the walls and initially and they are repulsed, and it's 1879 01:47:05,640 --> 01:47:08,360 Speaker 1: kind of a haphazard mess of an effort to try 1880 01:47:08,400 --> 01:47:12,320 Speaker 1: and get in there, and the uh French bureaucrat in 1881 01:47:12,400 --> 01:47:16,960 Speaker 1: charge at the Bestie de Luna is trying to figure 1882 01:47:16,960 --> 01:47:19,200 Speaker 1: out a way to get out of this whole situation 1883 01:47:20,000 --> 01:47:23,760 Speaker 1: because the French crowd, the mob at the best deal, 1884 01:47:24,560 --> 01:47:27,479 Speaker 1: goes and get some help from French army regulars who 1885 01:47:27,560 --> 01:47:29,040 Speaker 1: had deserted. You know, I guess a lot of people 1886 01:47:29,040 --> 01:47:30,639 Speaker 1: are just hanging out in the streets. Word of mouth 1887 01:47:30,640 --> 01:47:32,920 Speaker 1: and new were different folks were hanging out, and those 1888 01:47:32,920 --> 01:47:35,400 Speaker 1: French regulars will they bring a cannon to bear, and 1889 01:47:35,640 --> 01:47:38,160 Speaker 1: they bring artillery, and now all of a sudden, the 1890 01:47:38,200 --> 01:47:40,439 Speaker 1: castle is getting hit with artillery. So it's not such 1891 01:47:40,479 --> 01:47:44,240 Speaker 1: a joke anymore because they have real means to batter 1892 01:47:44,280 --> 01:47:48,480 Speaker 1: down the defenses. And De Lunay, who's this French bureaucrat, 1893 01:47:48,560 --> 01:47:50,880 Speaker 1: he he's like, all right, I'm I'm toast, I'm done. 1894 01:47:50,880 --> 01:47:53,200 Speaker 1: He waves the white flag and he goes out there 1895 01:47:53,240 --> 01:47:58,519 Speaker 1: and he tells this mob you either back off or 1896 01:47:58,840 --> 01:48:01,759 Speaker 1: I'll blow the gun owder storage and it'll like destroy 1897 01:48:01,800 --> 01:48:04,880 Speaker 1: everyone around us and basically bring the whole place down. 1898 01:48:05,360 --> 01:48:07,720 Speaker 1: The mom says there will be no negotiation at all 1899 01:48:08,080 --> 01:48:10,360 Speaker 1: and that they're just going to storm the palace. So 1900 01:48:10,600 --> 01:48:13,160 Speaker 1: they do, and they manage to breach the walls, get 1901 01:48:13,200 --> 01:48:17,960 Speaker 1: inside and they grab De luna He gets dragged out 1902 01:48:17,960 --> 01:48:22,280 Speaker 1: into the street and is beaten, severely stabbed. At one 1903 01:48:22,280 --> 01:48:26,120 Speaker 1: point he says, just let me die, and then they 1904 01:48:26,200 --> 01:48:28,559 Speaker 1: go okay, totes and and they kill him and they 1905 01:48:28,600 --> 01:48:30,160 Speaker 1: cut off his head and put it on a pike, 1906 01:48:30,720 --> 01:48:32,280 Speaker 1: and then they go dragged and then they go march 1907 01:48:32,320 --> 01:48:35,679 Speaker 1: around in the streets with this French bureaucrats severed head 1908 01:48:35,800 --> 01:48:40,880 Speaker 1: on top of a spear, essentially, and they um. By 1909 01:48:40,880 --> 01:48:44,559 Speaker 1: the way, the very nasty procedure of heads on spikes 1910 01:48:44,600 --> 01:48:48,640 Speaker 1: would be continued. In fact, another person grabbed inside or 1911 01:48:48,680 --> 01:48:51,560 Speaker 1: in the vicinity of the Bastille bureau, thought to be 1912 01:48:51,600 --> 01:48:54,519 Speaker 1: a bureaucrat with them association with the state, was also 1913 01:48:54,600 --> 01:48:57,760 Speaker 1: beheaded and head on a spike. Uh. There have been 1914 01:48:57,760 --> 01:49:01,639 Speaker 1: all these stories about how the back Steel was full 1915 01:49:01,680 --> 01:49:06,280 Speaker 1: of these political prisoners. In fact, Louis twin brother and 1916 01:49:06,320 --> 01:49:08,439 Speaker 1: this gave this from the legend of the man in 1917 01:49:08,439 --> 01:49:10,960 Speaker 1: the Iron Mask was supposed to be kept in the 1918 01:49:11,000 --> 01:49:13,920 Speaker 1: best see. It turns out there were only seven prisoners 1919 01:49:13,920 --> 01:49:17,799 Speaker 1: in there, a couple of a couple that were considered 1920 01:49:17,840 --> 01:49:21,160 Speaker 1: to be lunatics, um one that was in there for incest, 1921 01:49:21,680 --> 01:49:26,160 Speaker 1: a couple of forgers, nothing particularly exciting, and this was 1922 01:49:26,240 --> 01:49:30,880 Speaker 1: not the the dungeon of torture and depravity that the 1923 01:49:30,880 --> 01:49:34,040 Speaker 1: French citizens or the French mom at least, had been 1924 01:49:34,120 --> 01:49:37,639 Speaker 1: led to believe. So they grabbed this guy's I mean, 1925 01:49:37,640 --> 01:49:39,200 Speaker 1: back to what happened, They grabbed this guy de Luna. 1926 01:49:40,040 --> 01:49:42,360 Speaker 1: He gets, you know, gutted head, cut off, the whole thing, 1927 01:49:42,920 --> 01:49:45,280 Speaker 1: and they murdered all the guards inside as well. And 1928 01:49:45,320 --> 01:49:47,799 Speaker 1: they did that up close and personal with knives and clubs. 1929 01:49:47,800 --> 01:49:49,560 Speaker 1: And this was a turning point. I mean, this was 1930 01:49:49,600 --> 01:49:53,600 Speaker 1: an attack on the state institutions of Louis the sixteenth 1931 01:49:53,600 --> 01:49:57,599 Speaker 1: and the march on Versailles, which became a very nasty, 1932 01:49:57,680 --> 01:50:01,759 Speaker 1: bloody affair followed this, and they took Louis and Marie 1933 01:50:01,760 --> 01:50:05,520 Speaker 1: Antoinette and brought them into Paris as prisoners. The Bastie 1934 01:50:05,560 --> 01:50:09,400 Speaker 1: again another apocryphal. Another fake part of this is people say, oh, 1935 01:50:09,439 --> 01:50:12,120 Speaker 1: that that the citizens of Paris, or that the common 1936 01:50:12,120 --> 01:50:14,479 Speaker 1: people just toward apart. They actually brought in a builder 1937 01:50:14,479 --> 01:50:16,439 Speaker 1: and some architects, and over a series of time, with 1938 01:50:16,479 --> 01:50:22,000 Speaker 1: a lot of help, they completely pulled apart this old um, 1939 01:50:22,000 --> 01:50:25,680 Speaker 1: this old castle, Bastille. Uh. And it was later on 1940 01:50:25,760 --> 01:50:29,160 Speaker 1: that the the guillotine and the grotesque march of death 1941 01:50:29,200 --> 01:50:32,360 Speaker 1: to it would become the hallmark of the French Revolution. 1942 01:50:32,439 --> 01:50:36,639 Speaker 1: But this was the this was the beginnings of that 1943 01:50:36,680 --> 01:50:41,160 Speaker 1: political violence. And it's interesting because in retrospect this was 1944 01:50:41,479 --> 01:50:44,920 Speaker 1: this was mob violence and it led to a revolution 1945 01:50:45,640 --> 01:50:48,320 Speaker 1: UH spur in large part by envy and resentment. It 1946 01:50:48,479 --> 01:50:52,320 Speaker 1: very different from the ideals, although tried to share some 1947 01:50:52,400 --> 01:50:54,439 Speaker 1: of them the early stages of the American Revolution that 1948 01:50:54,520 --> 01:50:57,519 Speaker 1: came before it. UH. The French Revolution turned into an 1949 01:50:57,560 --> 01:51:01,000 Speaker 1: all consuming affair where everyone became a tar get and 1950 01:51:01,240 --> 01:51:03,120 Speaker 1: everyone thought they were in on it at first, and 1951 01:51:03,120 --> 01:51:07,320 Speaker 1: then they realized that they were actually subject to the 1952 01:51:07,400 --> 01:51:10,960 Speaker 1: craziness that they had started. But there's a lot of revisionism. 1953 01:51:11,000 --> 01:51:14,640 Speaker 1: I mean the fact that now in France Bastide or 1954 01:51:15,040 --> 01:51:19,080 Speaker 1: well lecter er uh la fete nacion now, which is 1955 01:51:19,120 --> 01:51:20,800 Speaker 1: what they call it, they don't call it Bastile Day. 1956 01:51:20,880 --> 01:51:24,920 Speaker 1: And just side note uh that they mark this with 1957 01:51:25,120 --> 01:51:28,400 Speaker 1: military parades, firework. It's very similar in the celebrations to 1958 01:51:28,439 --> 01:51:33,360 Speaker 1: our Fourth of July. But it's not their national independence Day. 1959 01:51:33,400 --> 01:51:36,880 Speaker 1: It's really the beginnings of the violence of the French Revolution, 1960 01:51:37,280 --> 01:51:39,639 Speaker 1: and the French Revolution went into an incredibly dark place 1961 01:51:40,120 --> 01:51:45,880 Speaker 1: uh turned into a totalitarian despotism, ended with Napoleon becoming 1962 01:51:45,920 --> 01:51:51,840 Speaker 1: an actual despot uh instead of a collectivist despot or despotism. 1963 01:51:52,479 --> 01:51:54,760 Speaker 1: So it's interesting that this is it's a day of 1964 01:51:54,800 --> 01:52:00,439 Speaker 1: celebration when it was really a haphazard, messy mob running around, 1965 01:52:00,920 --> 01:52:04,559 Speaker 1: uh trying to get their hands on weapons and then 1966 01:52:05,040 --> 01:52:09,639 Speaker 1: completely outnumbered a few government guards and employees and kill 1967 01:52:09,720 --> 01:52:13,640 Speaker 1: them all. Yeah, after and then sees a lot of guns. 1968 01:52:13,680 --> 01:52:17,479 Speaker 1: So that's the that's the truth of Vassi. So my 1969 01:52:17,520 --> 01:52:20,680 Speaker 1: friend Marvell, you can be so excited to go celebrate 1970 01:52:20,720 --> 01:52:23,760 Speaker 1: this weekend's God's rings the rose wine. It's okay during 1971 01:52:23,880 --> 01:52:27,240 Speaker 1: the rose, don't be shy, have a little brief perhaps 1972 01:52:27,920 --> 01:52:33,200 Speaker 1: lump Camembert see that side listening listening to a little 1973 01:52:34,120 --> 01:52:37,320 Speaker 1: edit PF. Maybe you watch a movie with Jacqueline Deneuve 1974 01:52:37,560 --> 01:52:41,000 Speaker 1: and Kathline Deneuve. Wops, we've got some name wrong because 1975 01:52:41,160 --> 01:52:44,400 Speaker 1: maybe I've had some rose. You never know. 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