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Speaker 2: This week we welcome the toughest person we have ever

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Speaker 5: and nice to meet.

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Speaker 2: So your father is a legendary taekwondo champion, and he

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Speaker 5: So I was doing a martial arts demonstration in Las

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Speaker 5: So she produced herself. Her name was Sally Baker. She's

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Speaker 1: I'm so it's so fascinating to me to think about

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Speaker 4: Well that's I mean, so Last Dragon was hugely important

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Speaker 3: And the thing that was so cool about The Last Dragon.

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Speaker 5: I was twelve. Yeah I looked like I was.

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Speaker 4: But the thing that was so great is not only

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Speaker 4: what you have to go watch it. He steals the movie.

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Speaker 4: The martial arts is absolutely incredible. And then on top

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Speaker 3: What was the next day like its it.

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Speaker 4: So I just wanted to tell you how important that

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Speaker 3: It was so awesome change my life. It really did

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Speaker 6: That's awesome. Man, I really appreciate that.

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Speaker 1: So, Ernie, did you end up did you take any

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean that was the thing is so when

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Speaker 5: You know what, it was actually like one of my

443
00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:41,879
Speaker 5: favorite movie making experiences. You know, we filmed it was

444
00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:46,040
Speaker 5: Dina Dilarentis Productions, who were filming in Italy at this

445
00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:50,439
Speaker 5: amazing Italian movie studio where the wardrobe designers were like

446
00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:55,080
Speaker 5: these serious craftsmen. And you know, I got to go

447
00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:59,160
Speaker 5: horseback riding every day in the countryside. I got to

448
00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:06,560
Speaker 5: you know, practice sword fights, you know, I uh, after

449
00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:09,600
Speaker 5: work every day. My dad had me really training like

450
00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:14,080
Speaker 5: a man out of a very early age, you know,

451
00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:17,520
Speaker 5: doing he didn't. That was one of the things in

452
00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:20,240
Speaker 5: terms of my training was he never really took into

453
00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:22,919
Speaker 5: consideration like, hey, this is a kid. I just pretty

454
00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:24,720
Speaker 5: much had the same He trained me as if he

455
00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:27,879
Speaker 5: was training. So there was no kind of like, oh, well,

456
00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:29,880
Speaker 5: we're going to modify this to make it a little

457
00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:32,560
Speaker 5: easier for you or less you know, strenuous. I was

458
00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:35,200
Speaker 5: just training all the time. So it was very cool.

459
00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:38,440
Speaker 5: I got to lift weights with Arnold Schwarzenegger every day

460
00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:43,520
Speaker 5: after six months, and I had show him hissing routines

461
00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:46,040
Speaker 5: and like you know, and you get a kick out

462
00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:48,920
Speaker 5: of that. So that was amazing. And then Brigitte Nielsen,

463
00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:51,520
Speaker 5: you know, at nineteen years old, she was about six

464
00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:53,480
Speaker 5: foot two. I think I was a four foot two

465
00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:57,120
Speaker 5: or something, so like it was just like the best

466
00:23:57,160 --> 00:23:59,879
Speaker 5: possible and you know, this is pre cgi, so all

467
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:03,919
Speaker 5: effects were practical, all the sets were built, and so

468
00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:06,760
Speaker 5: I was literally running around like a you know, a

469
00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:11,080
Speaker 5: tyrant prince with my own castle and servants, and I

470
00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:13,199
Speaker 5: mean it was wild, but it was it was like

471
00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:16,840
Speaker 5: definitely an amazing core memory just growing up as a kid,

472
00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,199
Speaker 5: Like you couldn't beat it. In terms of just the

473
00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:21,600
Speaker 5: whole filmmaking process and everything like that.

474
00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:24,679
Speaker 3: Now, was this this was between? Is it between or

475
00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:29,720
Speaker 3: after Destroyer? So is Barbarian then Rensnia then Destroyer?

476
00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:32,720
Speaker 5: Right? I think that it.

477
00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:34,280
Speaker 6: I think that it was.

478
00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:38,000
Speaker 5: I'm not quite sure on that, Yeah, but it was,

479
00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:40,960
Speaker 5: you know, in the early days of Arnold, you know,

480
00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:44,840
Speaker 5: becoming prior to becoming the biggest movie star in the world.

481
00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:49,000
Speaker 5: When They're coming, we had finished work and his mom

482
00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:53,359
Speaker 5: was visiting on the set, and so we went to

483
00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:57,080
Speaker 5: say goodbye in his dressing room and he gave us

484
00:24:57,160 --> 00:25:01,200
Speaker 5: a VHS copy of a v tape and he said,

485
00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:04,920
Speaker 5: you know, I just filmed this movie right before this one,

486
00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:07,000
Speaker 5: and it's coming out this summer. This was in around

487
00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:09,800
Speaker 5: Christmas time, and so my dad and I went back

488
00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:12,639
Speaker 5: to our hotel room and popped in the VHS and

489
00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:17,119
Speaker 5: upcomes Terminator. Oh so we got to see Terminator on

490
00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:20,760
Speaker 5: VHS like six months before the world did. And you

491
00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:24,320
Speaker 5: know that sent him into superstardom. And I was like,

492
00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:26,320
Speaker 5: I want to do movies like that. Dad.

493
00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:29,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, Wow, amazing.

494
00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:32,439
Speaker 2: You mentioned that your dad didn't train you like a

495
00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:36,000
Speaker 2: kid who was training. You were just any old other

496
00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:39,200
Speaker 2: adult he would have trained or himself. Was that hard

497
00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:41,560
Speaker 2: for you or did you love it? Did you want it?

498
00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:43,440
Speaker 2: Or did you ever feel like you were missing out

499
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:44,320
Speaker 2: on a childhood?

500
00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:47,520
Speaker 5: Oh? I mean I definitely wanted it, but I definitely

501
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:50,119
Speaker 5: also felt like I was missing out on a child Okay,

502
00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:53,639
Speaker 5: because every weekend we were traveling and that was like

503
00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:56,280
Speaker 5: our focus of life, like it really was, And so

504
00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:59,119
Speaker 5: I did I did miss out on a lot of

505
00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:03,119
Speaker 5: the normal things, maybe all the normal things that childhood

506
00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:06,560
Speaker 5: consists of. And we were just training every day all

507
00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:10,080
Speaker 5: day long, you know, and then traveling on the weekends.

508
00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:11,760
Speaker 5: A lot of times I would miss school on a

509
00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:14,159
Speaker 5: Friday so that we could get to the tournament on

510
00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:19,679
Speaker 5: a Saturday wherever it was. And yeah, so I definitely

511
00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:22,000
Speaker 5: felt like that. It's like, oh I got you know,

512
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:24,879
Speaker 5: my friend, and there just wasn't any of that. And

513
00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:27,320
Speaker 5: it was also you know, it kind of prepped me

514
00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:29,360
Speaker 5: for the life that I was going to live as

515
00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:33,200
Speaker 5: I continued into Hollywood, because then you again miss out

516
00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:36,919
Speaker 5: on all these kind of normal childhood things. So I

517
00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:40,880
Speaker 5: wanted it, and I definitely felt like I missed out

518
00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:43,480
Speaker 5: on a lot of stuff, you know, as I was

519
00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:47,000
Speaker 5: growing up and you know, I just kind of processed

520
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:49,160
Speaker 5: it as like that was the sacrifice that I had

521
00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:51,160
Speaker 5: to make in order to do what I wanted to do.

522
00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:54,240
Speaker 5: And you know, my dad was like, you know, all

523
00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:56,440
Speaker 5: the other kids are doing normal things, but they're also

524
00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:58,800
Speaker 5: not getting to do the things that you're getting to do,

525
00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:01,440
Speaker 5: So you have to kind of choose one one way

526
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:01,880
Speaker 5: or the other.

527
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:05,040
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, that's a good way of thinking about it.

528
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:08,600
Speaker 2: Not any not everyone is weightlifting with Arnold Schwarzenegger running

529
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:10,000
Speaker 2: around an Italian villa.

530
00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:12,439
Speaker 1: That was for you.

531
00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:15,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, you have that opportunity.

532
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:21,639
Speaker 2: So were you also attending traditional school and auditioning and competing?

533
00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:23,160
Speaker 2: What was your schooling situation?

534
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:25,399
Speaker 5: So, yeah, I was like up until about the sixth

535
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:29,479
Speaker 5: grade was like my regular schooling situation, and then after

536
00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:34,120
Speaker 5: that it was just homeschooling. Before homeschooling and a tutor

537
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:36,160
Speaker 5: when I was on set and everything.

538
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:39,520
Speaker 2: Okay, wow, Beau Scott, you I mean, how did you

539
00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:40,439
Speaker 2: You were so busy?

540
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:44,600
Speaker 5: Yeah? I mean I was like busy and working really

541
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:47,960
Speaker 5: hard too. You know, it wasn't just like busy busy,

542
00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:52,880
Speaker 5: It was like but also very strenuous, you know, Yeah,

543
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:54,760
Speaker 5: it was. It was a lot of work. I mean

544
00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:56,880
Speaker 5: I worked really hard as a kid.

545
00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:00,359
Speaker 2: Okay, so now we're at around the time of side Kicks,

546
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:04,520
Speaker 2: and here you enter our world of TV child acting.

547
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:08,800
Speaker 2: So the synopsis was an ordinary cop tutors a young

548
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:11,399
Speaker 2: boy who insists on helping him in cases with his

549
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:15,040
Speaker 2: mastery of martial arts. I mean, this truly feels like

550
00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:17,439
Speaker 2: it was written for you. Was it written for you?

551
00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:21,240
Speaker 5: Yes? So what happened was is after the Last Dragon,

552
00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:27,800
Speaker 5: Motown wanted to develop a television series for me, and

553
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:30,520
Speaker 5: at that time, you know, they weren't going to be

554
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:34,359
Speaker 5: able to get a network television deal in Hollywood, so

555
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 5: they partnered up with Disney and it was a co

556
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:43,400
Speaker 5: production between Motown and Disney, and so everything was I mean,

557
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:47,480
Speaker 5: my name was Ernie in the shows.

558
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:50,360
Speaker 4: You've made it when the show's about you and it's

559
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 4: like you're raven or you're earning, or it's like they're

560
00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:55,160
Speaker 4: not even changing your name anymore.

561
00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:56,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly.

562
00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:58,400
Speaker 6: So yeah, it was.

563
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:00,280
Speaker 5: It was there, and we were you know, I was

564
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:02,600
Speaker 5: there when we were pitching the shows and we were

565
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:05,960
Speaker 5: going to the exit all the different networks, and I'd

566
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:09,240
Speaker 5: be in Brandon Tartakoff's office and would move the furniture

567
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:11,280
Speaker 5: out of the way, and my dad would attack me,

568
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:14,240
Speaker 5: and then I'd beat my dad up, and the executives

569
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 5: were like whoa you know, demo in all these executive offices,

570
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:23,360
Speaker 5: and then the networks, and then we finally landed over

571
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:24,040
Speaker 5: at ABC.

572
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:26,240
Speaker 4: So again watching this as a little kid, just sit

573
00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:28,480
Speaker 4: either watching us seeing him do that, I was like that,

574
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:29,520
Speaker 4: I want to do that.

575
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:30,280
Speaker 3: I want to do that.

576
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:33,640
Speaker 2: How were you so good?

577
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:37,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean it's just honestly, it was like a

578
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:40,800
Speaker 5: lot of training. You know, obviously I had like physical,

579
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:45,640
Speaker 5: you know, gifts in terms of just athleticism, but yeah,

580
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:47,320
Speaker 5: it was just a lot of training. You know. I

581
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:51,440
Speaker 5: trained and trained and trained and trained, and I was motivated.

582
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 5: You know, I was inspired by Bruce Lee. So it

583
00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:56,200
Speaker 5: wasn't just like hey, I'm going to karate class or

584
00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:59,200
Speaker 5: whatever I was trying to I was trying to be

585
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:01,480
Speaker 5: as good as Bruce Lee. I mean, you can see

586
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:06,520
Speaker 5: my performance that I was generally yes, and it was

587
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:10,040
Speaker 5: important to me, you know, I at a very early age,

588
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:13,600
Speaker 5: it was very important to me that you know, I

589
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:18,840
Speaker 5: represented you know, standard of excellence because that's what Bruce

590
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 5: Lee meant to me.

591
00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 4: You know, wow, wow, Yeah, did you only study taekwondo

592
00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:27,000
Speaker 4: or because of Bruce Lee? Did you try kundo or

593
00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:28,400
Speaker 4: did you go to hot keto or was it just

594
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:29,280
Speaker 4: one style mostly?

595
00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:32,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean my primary base was taekwondo. That's where

596
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 5: you get all the kicking and all of that stuff.

597
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:38,080
Speaker 5: But you know, we were boxing and kickboxing and doing

598
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:41,840
Speaker 5: Filipino martial arts, had a little bit of you know,

599
00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:46,440
Speaker 5: training with Dan and Nisantos, you know, who was Bruce

600
00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:50,160
Speaker 5: Lee's student and training partner.

601
00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:53,560
Speaker 6: So I mean, and I was also exposed to.

602
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 5: I was also exposed to all the greatest martial artists

603
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:01,880
Speaker 5: at least in our country, so I had a reference point.

604
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 5: And so we would travel doing seminars with you know,

605
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:10,240
Speaker 5: a panel of the greatest like martial artists in America

606
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:12,719
Speaker 5: at the time. So I was exposed to it all.

607
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:27,800
Speaker 2: So the cop Insidekicks was Gil Gerard better known as

608
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:30,800
Speaker 2: Buck Rogers, a TV legend. What was that like for

609
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 2: the karate champ when sharing scenes with him?

610
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:35,200
Speaker 6: Yeah, that was amazing.

611
00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:38,480
Speaker 5: I mean, you know, first of all, I hadn't seen

612
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:41,840
Speaker 5: the show, but I knew who Buck Rogers was. Yeah,

613
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:45,480
Speaker 5: this is pretty cool, you know, and at that time,

614
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 5: I think he had taken like a hiatus from you know,

615
00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:52,400
Speaker 5: the entertainment business for a while and was like coming back.

616
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:54,840
Speaker 5: So that was cool. And he, you know, he was

617
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:57,840
Speaker 5: Buck Rogers. I mean he you know, I mean it

618
00:31:57,960 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 5: was like the first time that I kind of fell

619
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:03,240
Speaker 5: that like, hey, this guy is you know, from in

620
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:05,720
Speaker 5: it from a TV perspective, like, hey, this is like

621
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:09,080
Speaker 5: a star and Arnold and all the people prior to

622
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:11,400
Speaker 5: that were not established at that time.

623
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:14,720
Speaker 6: So even Arnold, yeah he was a star, but he wasn't.

624
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 5: Like a superstar. Buck Rogers had already had like an

625
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 5: entire career, you know, the sidekick. So I definitely was

626
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:24,160
Speaker 5: able to kind of feel feel that in just his presence.

627
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:26,440
Speaker 5: But he's a great guy and I really enjoyed working

628
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 5: with him.

629
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 2: How is your dad? What is your What was your

630
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 2: dad's thoughts and feelings? Did he express them to you?

631
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:36,040
Speaker 2: Seeing you go from you know, a martial artist who

632
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,440
Speaker 2: was training every weekend and working really hard, but then

633
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 2: all of a sudden accomplishing his other dream of becoming

634
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:44,960
Speaker 2: a movie star and now a TV star. How was

635
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 2: your dad feeling through all this?

636
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:49,000
Speaker 6: You know, I don't know, I don't know exactly.

637
00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 5: I know that He's super proud of me, you know,

638
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:56,800
Speaker 5: you know, and it was a reflection of his It's

639
00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 5: a reflection of him as a martial arts teacher as well,

640
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:02,480
Speaker 5: and so that I think that he was very proud

641
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:05,160
Speaker 5: of that, you know. But my dad, we were on

642
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 5: a mission, so it was always very like, you know,

643
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 5: we were very it was very serious.

644
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 6: You know, we were having I was having fun, but

645
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:15,720
Speaker 6: it was a very serious thing.

646
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 5: And then coupled you know, and that's how entertainment business is, right,

647
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:21,720
Speaker 5: There's a lot going on, but then coupled with it

648
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:24,320
Speaker 5: is just like I'm this martial arts guy, so it's

649
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:31,000
Speaker 5: all very like focused and you know, and again that's

650
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:33,000
Speaker 5: where you miss out on a lot of the other

651
00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 5: things that are just like more fun and that kind

652
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:39,160
Speaker 5: of stuff. But yeah, I think that he's just generally

653
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:41,320
Speaker 5: was very proud of me, you know, and what we

654
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:44,840
Speaker 5: were accomplishing, and we worked you know up and you know,

655
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 5: we also were Corey, so he was working on the show,

656
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:49,840
Speaker 5: so it wasn't just like a regular set parent who's

657
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 5: just like there and whatever.

658
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:54,280
Speaker 6: He was involved in the production aspect of it.

659
00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 5: So he's going to production meetings as having working with

660
00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 5: the stunt coordinators, and then he was the choreographer for

661
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:03,280
Speaker 5: Sidekicks as well. So all the stuff that I did

662
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:06,120
Speaker 5: when I was a kid, you know, he was choreographing

663
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 5: all of that stuff.

664
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:09,480
Speaker 6: And I was to a lot of it, to be honest,

665
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:10,440
Speaker 6: but that.

666
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:13,719
Speaker 5: Was his position. We would work together and I would say, hell,

667
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:16,400
Speaker 5: what about this and what about that? But he that

668
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:19,920
Speaker 5: was his position, was the choreographer. So we were working

669
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:24,680
Speaker 5: together side Rice versus you know, you know, just being

670
00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:27,920
Speaker 5: a parent and being there just because the child needs

671
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 5: to have somebody an adult on set.

672
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:35,600
Speaker 2: Yes, okay, so let's get into teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.

673
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:40,760
Speaker 2: In the first movie, you are the stunt double for Donatello, right, yes,

674
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 2: you were in the foam latex costume fighting members of

675
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 2: the Foot Clan. Please tell us how that came to be.

676
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:52,320
Speaker 6: Yeah, So Golden Harvest comes back to Bruce Lee again.

677
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:57,880
Speaker 5: Who's responsible for you know, Bruce Lee, Jet Lee, Jackie Chant.

678
00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:02,520
Speaker 5: So after Sidekicks got you, after Sidekicks Gots canceled, then

679
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 5: I went back to kind of being like a regular teenager.

680
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 5: And I actually went to a small school, but it

681
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 5: was it was for actors and actresses and models and

682
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:16,720
Speaker 5: people like that that were in the industry and working.

683
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:19,400
Speaker 5: But I was now in a school again and for

684
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 5: people there, and I was making friends at least during

685
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 5: school time, you know.

686
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:29,839
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, so Golden Harvest and so there was that

687
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:31,400
Speaker 6: time period where I wasn't working.

688
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:34,719
Speaker 5: I was just enjoying being like a young teenager. And

689
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 5: so Pat Johnson, who was the stunt coordinator, So Golden

690
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:45,240
Speaker 5: Harvest was bringing four Hong Kong stunt guys to work

691
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 5: on the first American production. And during that time, like

692
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:51,200
Speaker 5: in the eighties, especially for martial arts films, like the

693
00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:54,359
Speaker 5: Hong Kong guys were like up here in terms of

694
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:57,799
Speaker 5: like the action output that they were doing. And so

695
00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:01,680
Speaker 5: they were bringing four Golden Harvest was bringing for Hong

696
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:04,759
Speaker 5: Kong guys to do all the action for the Turtles.

697
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:09,840
Speaker 5: One of the guys broke his back in pre production.

698
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 5: So Pat Johnson, the stunt coordinator, called me up. And

699
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:17,080
Speaker 5: I had known Pat from way back in the day.

700
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:19,320
Speaker 5: He used to be judge me as a young kid

701
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 5: in my martial arts competitions and things like that. And

702
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 5: he said, listen, this is not an acting job, but

703
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:26,520
Speaker 5: this is a stunt job.

704
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:29,440
Speaker 6: Are you willing to come? And I was like, Golden Harvest,

705
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:30,120
Speaker 6: are you kidding me?

706
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 5: Like yes, absolutely, And so now I'm like going and

707
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:39,720
Speaker 5: immediately I go to They fly me out to London

708
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 5: to the Jim Henson Creature Shop and I get a

709
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 5: full cast, and you know, I'm seeing all the stuff

710
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:49,160
Speaker 5: that they've worked on. I mean, I'm like, this is magical.

711
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 5: Right then, I actually knew, like, Okay, I'm doing something

712
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:52,879
Speaker 5: very cool here.

713
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:55,839
Speaker 6: I wasn't too familiar with the Ninja Turtles in terms

714
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 6: of the property or whatever.

715
00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 5: I was kind of familiar with the toys. But now

716
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:03,400
Speaker 5: I'm at the Jim Henson Creature Shop and I'm getting

717
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:08,240
Speaker 5: a full body cast, you know, and we fly out

718
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:10,320
Speaker 5: and then I go from there and I go straight

719
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 5: to North Carolina where we were filming and and started

720
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 5: working with you know, the Hong Kong guys.

721
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:20,720
Speaker 6: And that was amazing. It was it was really special.

722
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:22,960
Speaker 5: But I was really like the really hooked for me

723
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:26,280
Speaker 5: was Golden Harvest, and it just went back to Bruce

724
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:28,439
Speaker 5: Lee again. I was like, I'm actually getting to work

725
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:30,759
Speaker 5: with the company that made me. And you know that

726
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 5: the Golden Harvest has such an iconic.

727
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:38,480
Speaker 4: Logo logo right when it pops up you know exactly.

728
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:41,640
Speaker 3: It's right underneath the Lucasfilm Limited. Like the lucasfilm comes

729
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:43,879
Speaker 3: up for Star Wars, Golden Harvest comes up. It's like, oh, yes,

730
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:46,640
Speaker 3: this is going to be a fun ninety minutes. Yeah.

731
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:49,879
Speaker 2: So were there other kids in the suits or were

732
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 2: you the only kid?

733
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:53,239
Speaker 5: I was the only kid. Yeah. The Hong Kong guys

734
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 5: were just men, and I was. I was so I

735
00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:59,200
Speaker 5: was seventeen in between. It was the summer in between

736
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 5: my junior and senior year of high school.

737
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:03,480
Speaker 2: Wow, oh my gosh.

738
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:06,200
Speaker 5: And I was emancipated, so I could go and work

739
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:07,400
Speaker 5: and I didn't need an adult.

740
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:10,000
Speaker 6: And also this was the first.

741
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:13,719
Speaker 5: Time that my dad wasn't with me, and so this

742
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 5: was like a big deal for me.

743
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 6: I was like, okay, I'm a stunt man.

744
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:20,839
Speaker 5: I was a stunt boy, you say, right, you know.

745
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:21,720
Speaker 6: I'm away.

746
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:24,360
Speaker 5: And the cool part about it is is that I

747
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:27,880
Speaker 5: got to choreograph, you know, all of my own stuff.

748
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 5: So now I'm doing what I used to do with

749
00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:32,520
Speaker 5: just me and my dad, and I'm getting to do

750
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 5: it myself. And so basically, you know, the stunt coordinator

751
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:38,240
Speaker 5: would break down a scene.

752
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:39,919
Speaker 6: And we're like, okay, we're going to do the rooftop.

753
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:41,400
Speaker 5: Fight scene or whatever. And then I would go and

754
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 5: come up with the choreography and then I'd present it

755
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 5: to the stunt coordinator, and ten out of ten times

756
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:51,799
Speaker 5: he was like perfect, you know the choreography. So it's

757
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:53,920
Speaker 5: like all of that, you know, it was a pretty

758
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:55,000
Speaker 5: special moment for him.

759
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:57,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, and when you're and when you're doing the choreography,

760
00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:00,239
Speaker 1: are you wearing the suit to like know what you

761
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:04,800
Speaker 1: can do or can't do or well, preliminary.

762
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 5: We just go and kind of work stuff out and

763
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 5: then yeah, then you're going, Okay, now we have to

764
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:12,360
Speaker 5: try it with a suit.

765
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:14,799
Speaker 6: It was pretty crazy. The suit was like, you know,

766
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:15,960
Speaker 6: thirty forty.

767
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:20,279
Speaker 5: Pounds, Oh my god, home Latex rubber. You know, it's

768
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:23,799
Speaker 5: like a ball. No. I mean my body first of all,

769
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:27,840
Speaker 5: is in North Carolina is like one hundred degrees outside.

770
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:31,400
Speaker 5: Oh my, one hundred percent humidity. And we're you know,

771
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:34,600
Speaker 5: doing fight scenes all day long, like literally twelve fourteen,

772
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:39,360
Speaker 5: sixteen hours a day. And imagine like a nerve football.

773
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:40,959
Speaker 5: You know, you don't get into the water.

774
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:42,759
Speaker 6: It's just like a giant sponge.

775
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:46,120
Speaker 5: So you're going your sweating and it's just the suit's

776
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 5: getting heavier and heavier as the day goes on, and

777
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:53,840
Speaker 5: you're basically slashing around in your sweat for like fourteen

778
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 5: hours a day. I mean it was hard work. My

779
00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:58,480
Speaker 5: body temperature got up to one hundred and two degrees

780
00:39:58,520 --> 00:39:58,960
Speaker 5: every day.

781
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 3: Yeah. No, there's there's.

782
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:02,800
Speaker 5: Story hey guys.

783
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:06,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's teenage mutant Ninja Turtle stories about the first

784
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:09,200
Speaker 4: filming of that movie where they were like right on

785
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 4: the line of safety for a lot of that film apparently.

786
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:13,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, big time.

787
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:17,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh my gosh, yeah.

788
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:20,040
Speaker 5: Crazy, But that's where all that training comes in. You know.

789
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:24,520
Speaker 5: It's just mental and physical that it's like, all right,

790
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:27,279
Speaker 5: this is like I always kind of looked at it

791
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:29,160
Speaker 5: on the first movie like it was like a black

792
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:32,080
Speaker 5: belt test. It was like you always knew what you

793
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:35,279
Speaker 5: were getting into like every single day, and it was

794
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:38,560
Speaker 5: just a matter of like controlling your mind basically, because

795
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:40,360
Speaker 5: a big part of it is just like mental.

796
00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:42,719
Speaker 1: You know, Yeah, how did did you fit in with

797
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:45,719
Speaker 1: the Golden Harvest guys? Or did it take a little bit? Yeah,

798
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:48,279
Speaker 1: I mean you must have been nervous, right, yeah.

799
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:50,280
Speaker 5: No, I mean this was like the dream come true,

800
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:52,759
Speaker 5: and honestly, in my mind, I was like, this is

801
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:57,279
Speaker 5: my opportunity to demonstrate what I can do. That was

802
00:40:57,320 --> 00:41:00,360
Speaker 5: like I went into that with that mindset and it

803
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:04,799
Speaker 5: worked out pretty much like I had hoped for it.

804
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I mean it was a smash that when

805
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:08,600
Speaker 4: it first came out. I remember, I think I saw

806
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:10,879
Speaker 4: it three times in the theater. Like it was this

807
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:14,239
Speaker 4: was comic books and martial arts together for the first time,

808
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:16,520
Speaker 4: but it was also the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, which

809
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 4: was a little bit more subversive of.

810
00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:19,760
Speaker 3: A comic book.

811
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 4: Then a lot of people knew, Like if you knew,

812
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:24,319
Speaker 4: you knew, but if you didn't, I mean, most of

813
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:27,080
Speaker 4: the actors that were cast in the film didn't know

814
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:30,440
Speaker 4: what Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles was. So it's it's one

815
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 4: of those things where it was a real if you know,

816
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:34,920
Speaker 4: you know moment, And so for somebody who was a

817
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:39,480
Speaker 4: fan seeing it brought to life and and the puppetry.

818
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:40,720
Speaker 3: Was decent, it was good.

819
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:43,160
Speaker 4: So it was you figured it was, oh, it's gonna

820
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:45,480
Speaker 4: look like crappy foam suits or and everybody was worried.

821
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:47,960
Speaker 4: The fans were worried beforehand, and then the first pictures

822
00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:49,840
Speaker 4: kind of leaked and there was no online, so it

823
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:51,839
Speaker 4: was just kind of like, you know what's gonna, Well

824
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:53,279
Speaker 4: I heard this, I heard that, Well, I heard it's

825
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:55,200
Speaker 4: gonna and then next thing, you know, I have a

826
00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:59,400
Speaker 4: strange connection with the film where the the the human

827
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:04,680
Speaker 4: Kid played by Michael Turney. Okay, Michael's mom was my

828
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:07,759
Speaker 4: manager for years, so whenever Michael wanted to get out

829
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:09,719
Speaker 4: of New York City, she would send him to our

830
00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 4: house in Connecticut. So he was like, he and I

831
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 4: would hang out together, and so he's telling me all about, yeah,

832
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:17,400
Speaker 4: I'm doing this teenage mutant ninja Turtle. So I like,

833
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:18,640
Speaker 4: I already knew it. I was like, oh my god,

834
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 4: they're doing the Ninja Turtles. And then when it came out,

835
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 4: it was like a phenomenon right at the time. I mean, yeah,

836
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:25,160
Speaker 4: massive part the whole thing again.

837
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:28,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, so was that then? Was there any part of

838
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:30,759
Speaker 2: it that was hard because that's obviously a massive hit,

839
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 2: but nobody could see you inside the suit. Did you

840
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:37,799
Speaker 2: have that feeling of like, I'm a massive reason this

841
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:40,279
Speaker 2: movie is so successful and yet no one even knows

842
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 2: it was me.

843
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:43,280
Speaker 6: Yeah, It's well, it's interesting.

844
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:46,800
Speaker 5: So, you know, going back to the martial arts community,

845
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:52,160
Speaker 5: there's a whole martial arts community right all across the country,

846
00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 5: and it's pretty much like a kind of subculture at

847
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:58,360
Speaker 5: that time. Yeah, you know, but they had been following

848
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:02,040
Speaker 5: my career since the Last Dragon and so now here

849
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:04,600
Speaker 5: we are, how many every years later, and so there

850
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:08,279
Speaker 5: was at least in my martial arts world, they knew that, hey,

851
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:11,480
Speaker 5: and we were kind of promoting it as such. But

852
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 5: on the last day of filming, the executive producer from

853
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:18,960
Speaker 5: Golden Harvest, who you know, they took.

854
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:19,440
Speaker 6: A liking to me.

855
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:22,560
Speaker 5: There was four Hong Kong stunt guys, three Hong Kong

856
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 5: stunt guys and me. The Hong Kong guys couldn't even

857
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:29,960
Speaker 5: speak English. So when Golden Harvest met me and they

858
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:32,759
Speaker 5: could see that I could do the martial arts and

859
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 5: compete with all the best guys at Golden Harvest, and

860
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:39,960
Speaker 5: I spoke English and was just like a California kid.

861
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:44,000
Speaker 5: On the last day of filming, the executive producers says

862
00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:46,760
Speaker 5: to me, Hey, we're gonna in the sequel. They already

863
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:49,240
Speaker 5: knew that they had a smash hit on it their hands,

864
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:52,359
Speaker 5: and last day they said, hey, we're gonna write you

865
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:55,279
Speaker 5: into the second movie as a human character. So I

866
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:56,360
Speaker 5: was like, oh.

867
00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:02,680
Speaker 3: My worked, Yes, oh my god. It's a great segue

868
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:04,920
Speaker 3: to the Secret of the US Party two.

869
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:06,680
Speaker 6: Too.

870
00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:10,920
Speaker 2: It's the nineteen ninety one sequel, and you play Keno,

871
00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:14,640
Speaker 2: the smart mouthed pizza delivery boy slash karate kid who

872
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 2: becomes best friends with the Turtles to fight the evil Shredder.

873
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:23,120
Speaker 2: So this had to be every kid's dream come true.

874
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:26,799
Speaker 2: You are now best friends with the Ninja Turtles. What

875
00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:30,160
Speaker 2: was it like to go from being in that awful

876
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:34,279
Speaker 2: suit to now you're you get to be you? What

877
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:34,880
Speaker 2: was that like?

878
00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:42,200
Speaker 5: Ye, well it was a lot cooler, like literally, yeah,

879
00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:44,719
Speaker 5: I mean it was amazing, you know. And so what

880
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:48,359
Speaker 5: happened was is after the second movie, I mean after

881
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:53,440
Speaker 5: the first movie, then they basically one of my friends,

882
00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:57,040
Speaker 5: you know, from the martial arts community, replaced me inside

883
00:44:57,120 --> 00:44:59,799
Speaker 5: the suit and now I'm like a human character. So

884
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 5: I already knew what the workload was like inside the costumes. Yeah,

885
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:07,279
Speaker 5: just that alone made me a happy camper, you know.

886
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 6: And no, it was amazing.

887
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:12,400
Speaker 5: I mean it was very surreal, and you know, it

888
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:14,640
Speaker 5: was also kind of like my part of my plan.

889
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:17,839
Speaker 5: I was like, hey, now I'm actually getting to do

890
00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:18,919
Speaker 5: what I want to do.

891
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 6: And I'm actually human character. I mean, it was it

892
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:22,760
Speaker 6: was amazing.

893
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:25,160
Speaker 5: Now, so it was in between my junior and senior

894
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:29,359
Speaker 5: year of high school that we filmed the movie came out. Now,

895
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:35,640
Speaker 5: I just graduated high school and yes, starring in the

896
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:38,200
Speaker 5: Teenage Being a Ninja Turtle movie. I mean it was like,

897
00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:44,040
Speaker 5: you know, peak just Peak Frenzy good times. It was

898
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:46,000
Speaker 5: just like the dream come true. Really, it was like

899
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 5: a dream come true. Like it was amazing, Like there

900
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:54,759
Speaker 5: was It's just unbelievable really, you know. And yeah, so

901
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 5: they replaced the Hong Kong guys with the American guys,

902
00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:01,759
Speaker 5: a lot of the guys who we're competing on the

903
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:04,319
Speaker 5: martial arts circuits because that's kind of where I had

904
00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:07,880
Speaker 5: come from. And so then they brought in all American

905
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:11,880
Speaker 5: guys and and then again, you know, I got to

906
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:15,040
Speaker 5: choreograph my own you know, fight scenes, which was like

907
00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:18,480
Speaker 5: for me as the marshal the outside of the acting

908
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:21,800
Speaker 5: and everybody seeing me really being able to perform martial

909
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:26,600
Speaker 5: arts choreography that person that I was personally choreographing, and

910
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:29,480
Speaker 5: we have that opening mall sequence, and I mean it

911
00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:31,719
Speaker 5: was just like I couldn't ask for anything better really,

912
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:32,840
Speaker 5: to tell you the truth.

913
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:35,359
Speaker 4: Well, the only thing you could ask for better is

914
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:44,120
Speaker 4: to also have a song by Vanilla Ice, which is

915
00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:47,680
Speaker 4: I mean cinematic glory is sitting there watching Vanilla Ice

916
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:49,160
Speaker 4: dancing with the Turtles.

917
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:50,400
Speaker 3: It's got to be pretty awesome.

918
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:53,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean it was. It was crazy. I mean

919
00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:54,480
Speaker 5: it was all just kind of like.

920
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:59,560
Speaker 6: A surreal you know, surreal you know, and I had kind.

921
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:02,000
Speaker 5: Of you know, I I grew up like in a

922
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:04,879
Speaker 5: hip hop generation, like the early day days of hip

923
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:06,640
Speaker 5: hop and seeing where it was and now I was

924
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:09,520
Speaker 5: in the movie, and yeah, it was just yeah, it

925
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:12,920
Speaker 5: was pretty wild like Vanilla's and he was like peak,

926
00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:15,120
Speaker 5: the height of his popularity.

927
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:16,000
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, time.

928
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:19,120
Speaker 2: So what was Vanilla like on set?

929
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:21,319
Speaker 5: Uh? No, you know, I didn't get to spend too

930
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:24,440
Speaker 5: much time with him because the only stuff that I

931
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:27,880
Speaker 5: did that we were working together was the scene the

932
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:31,400
Speaker 5: end the sequence where they're in the club and they're dancing.

933
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:34,000
Speaker 5: But really I just come in towards the end, so

934
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:36,200
Speaker 5: I didn't actually get a lot of like work.

935
00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:40,919
Speaker 2: Time Okay with him, Okay, cool? How long would you say?

936
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:45,040
Speaker 2: Rehearsals for big fight scenes usually take.

937
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:51,760
Speaker 6: Yeah, well, you know in yeah, that's a good question.

938
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:56,160
Speaker 5: There was probably. I mean, you get probably a few

939
00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:59,480
Speaker 5: weeks ahead of the production, and that's kind of just

940
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:02,759
Speaker 5: like start planner stuff and like yeah, just kind of

941
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:07,920
Speaker 5: planning things out. But in my reality, like in my mind,

942
00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:09,920
Speaker 5: as soon as I was reading the script before we

943
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:12,520
Speaker 5: even got to this, like I was putting it all

944
00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:14,920
Speaker 5: together in my head. As soon as I read the

945
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:17,680
Speaker 5: script the first time, I was kind of imagining what

946
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:20,160
Speaker 5: all the stuff could be. So when by the time

947
00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:24,120
Speaker 5: I got to the actual production, like I pretty much

948
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:26,799
Speaker 5: knew what I wanted to do and had it all

949
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:29,520
Speaker 5: kind of planned out and written out in my script

950
00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:33,680
Speaker 5: and had it all prepared, you know, beforehand. So for me,

951
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:37,800
Speaker 5: like the rehearsal time was more for the other people,

952
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:41,719
Speaker 5: like I'd do I'd grown grown up doing most starts fights, right,

953
00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:44,840
Speaker 5: I can on the spot like do whatever.

954
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:47,840
Speaker 2: Sure for you, but I'm sure everyone else needs some work.

955
00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:50,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, And it's a it's a you know, it's a

956
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:54,320
Speaker 5: dance routine. It's a choreography. It's by numbers and beats

957
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 5: and and that kind of thing. And but the guys

958
00:48:57,600 --> 00:48:59,600
Speaker 5: were great, The stun guys were great. That I got

959
00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:02,319
Speaker 5: to work with, and you know, we didn't have a

960
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:04,160
Speaker 5: lot of time. I'll put it that way. It wasn't

961
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:06,279
Speaker 5: like this long, you know, and Golden Harvest, they're not

962
00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:10,960
Speaker 5: you know, it's not like, hey, it's like, you know, right.

963
00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:17,040
Speaker 4: In between the first movie and the second movie, did

964
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:19,800
Speaker 4: you deep dive the Ninja Turtles? Like by that point,

965
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:22,759
Speaker 4: were you just grabbing everything you could about the.

966
00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:26,439
Speaker 3: All the comic books, all the books, everything you could say.

967
00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:29,000
Speaker 5: No, not really to tell you the truth. I mean,

968
00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:32,360
Speaker 5: in between after the first movie, I went on like

969
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:35,880
Speaker 5: a whole promo tour in the martial arts community, and

970
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:39,360
Speaker 5: so we were I mean, I would be like opening

971
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:41,680
Speaker 5: martial arts. That was like one of the most special

972
00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:45,319
Speaker 5: parts about being in the Ninja Turtles is how much

973
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:49,359
Speaker 5: of an impact that it made on the martial arts industry, right,

974
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:55,720
Speaker 5: you know, thousands and thousands and thousands of kids signed

975
00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:58,400
Speaker 5: up for martial arts because of the Ninja Turtles. And

976
00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:02,880
Speaker 5: we were we're in a we weren't on the you know,

977
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:05,920
Speaker 5: on the outside, we were we came from that world

978
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:08,560
Speaker 5: and had a whole long history at that point.

979
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:10,560
Speaker 6: So we came back to.

980
00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:13,120
Speaker 5: All the tournaments that I used to, all the like,

981
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:16,840
Speaker 5: you know, five star rated tournaments. We came back and

982
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:20,760
Speaker 5: I was making appearances and promoting, and martial arts schools

983
00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:23,000
Speaker 5: were popping up all over the country, and I would

984
00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:26,399
Speaker 5: go to grand openings and literally they'll be like on

985
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:29,400
Speaker 5: the grand opening, the school owner would sign up one

986
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:32,839
Speaker 5: hundred people like from scratch, just and I was there.

987
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:34,320
Speaker 6: I mean it was It was really wild.

988
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:37,120
Speaker 5: So even though I was in the costume the martial

989
00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:41,400
Speaker 5: arts community, once the movie became a hit, they knew

990
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:43,640
Speaker 5: that I had done all the martial arts for the

991
00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:47,360
Speaker 5: character Don Tello, and so in between the movies, I

992
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:51,800
Speaker 5: basically was out in the martial arts community, promoting martial arts,

993
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:55,600
Speaker 5: promoting martial arts for kids as a positive way of life,

994
00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:59,680
Speaker 5: and you know, all of that in between, So there

995
00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:01,680
Speaker 5: wasn't much time to sit down and read a comic.

996
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:07,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. Well, here we are in twenty twenty five,

997
00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:11,440
Speaker 2: and after all the popularity of the Ninja Turtles, it

998
00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:14,920
Speaker 2: seems to me that the level of nostalgia is actually

999
00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:19,000
Speaker 2: highest for a movie released three years after Turtles two

1000
00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:25,120
Speaker 2: Surf Ninjas. This was another vehicle for you alongside Rob Schneider,

1001
00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:28,359
Speaker 2: your dad, Philip Tan and a boy Meets World guest

1002
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:29,680
Speaker 2: star Keoni Young.

1003
00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:33,960
Speaker 1: So oh yeah, yes, So was.

1004
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:36,520
Speaker 2: This project also built around you?

1005
00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:40,040
Speaker 5: Yeah? So New Line on the first Ninja Turtles, New

1006
00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:42,560
Speaker 5: Line Cinema was not the New Line Cinema that did

1007
00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:45,400
Speaker 5: Lord of Rings or anything like that. Newline Cinema was

1008
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:49,360
Speaker 5: a small indie film and the first Ninja Turtle movie

1009
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:52,760
Speaker 5: when you know, when it was released, was the highest

1010
00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:56,080
Speaker 5: grossing independent film of all time in the history of

1011
00:51:56,120 --> 00:52:02,760
Speaker 5: movie making. And so New Line on the Monday after

1012
00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:06,200
Speaker 5: Secret of the Ooze came out, I had like a

1013
00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:09,759
Speaker 5: front cover of the La Times calendar section and it

1014
00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:15,600
Speaker 5: was like Ninja Turtles Mania or whatever. And so Newline called, uh,

1015
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:17,560
Speaker 5: you know my team, and was like, we want to

1016
00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:21,800
Speaker 5: make movies with Ernie. And so that's how that whole thing,

1017
00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:25,040
Speaker 5: you know transpired. So it went from you know, the

1018
00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:29,680
Speaker 5: first Ninja Turtles in the suit to starring alongside the Turtles,

1019
00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:34,520
Speaker 5: all within the same company, and then New Line developing

1020
00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:37,640
Speaker 5: and producing a movie for me as a vehicle for

1021
00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:39,560
Speaker 5: me to star. Wow.

1022
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:44,040
Speaker 2: So was it incredibly popular when it came out or

1023
00:52:44,080 --> 00:52:46,080
Speaker 2: did it really get its legs in vhs?

1024
00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:49,600
Speaker 5: It got its legs in VHS, So, like I remember

1025
00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:56,719
Speaker 5: going to the market the Monday, and I could kind

1026
00:52:56,760 --> 00:52:58,719
Speaker 5: of like the writing was a little bit on the

1027
00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:02,919
Speaker 5: wall in terms of well, first of all, we did

1028
00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:03,920
Speaker 5: test screenings.

1029
00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:04,680
Speaker 6: I did it.

1030
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:08,000
Speaker 5: I showed up to about ten test screenings of Surfing Engine.

1031
00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:11,400
Speaker 5: So in the test screenings, you have a full full house.

1032
00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:13,680
Speaker 5: They don't know what they're about to see, but it's

1033
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:16,560
Speaker 5: packed in there. And I'm sitting next to Bob Shay,

1034
00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:22,120
Speaker 5: you know, the CEO of New Line Cinema, and the

1035
00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:27,160
Speaker 5: kids are going crazy. They're in their chairs, they're jumping

1036
00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:30,480
Speaker 5: up and down, they're singing the song. They're like, it's

1037
00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:36,880
Speaker 5: going crazy. And the test ratings was ninety eight to

1038
00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:41,240
Speaker 5: one hundred percent good to excellent. It was testing higher

1039
00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:46,319
Speaker 5: than both Ninja Turtle movies, and so when it came out,

1040
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:48,920
Speaker 5: it was definitely So I go to the market, but

1041
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:50,919
Speaker 5: I could kind of see the writing on the wall

1042
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:53,480
Speaker 5: just like, and you know, you kind of drive around

1043
00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:56,279
Speaker 5: town on the weekend at the movies and you're kind

1044
00:53:56,280 --> 00:53:58,799
Speaker 5: of like looking around and you.

1045
00:53:58,680 --> 00:54:01,120
Speaker 6: Can feel it, just like you can fill the build up,

1046
00:54:01,239 --> 00:54:01,440
Speaker 6: you know.

1047
00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:04,680
Speaker 5: And so I go to the market, uh, and I

1048
00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:08,120
Speaker 5: open up the Hollywood Reporter and it's like Surf Ninja

1049
00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:16,799
Speaker 5: just wipes out up the box office. Good. Yeah, it was.

1050
00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:20,080
Speaker 5: It was a pretty crazy moment because you know, it's

1051
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:23,360
Speaker 5: the you have this plan and it's all work and

1052
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:25,880
Speaker 5: it's all going well, and now the vehicle now this

1053
00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:29,480
Speaker 5: is where if you if you, if if this hits,

1054
00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:34,960
Speaker 5: now you're into what like you really are? That was

1055
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:38,360
Speaker 5: my goal is like okay, you know, because I grew

1056
00:54:38,440 --> 00:54:40,880
Speaker 5: up in it. By that time, I had already graduated

1057
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:45,160
Speaker 5: high school, and independent movie making was like it was

1058
00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:49,200
Speaker 5: like the Golden era Tarantino and Robert Rodriguez and you know,

1059
00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:51,239
Speaker 5: all those things, and people are making movies just on

1060
00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:52,759
Speaker 5: there by theirselves, you know.

1061
00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:54,040
Speaker 4: And so.

1062
00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:58,640
Speaker 5: Uh, I was like, this is going to be my opportunity.

1063
00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:00,480
Speaker 5: And I had you know, when I went into New

1064
00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:02,839
Speaker 5: Line to meet with them, I had a vision of

1065
00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:07,480
Speaker 5: making family action martial arts movies. You know. That was

1066
00:55:07,560 --> 00:55:10,360
Speaker 5: kind of my pitch to them. And I've been thinking

1067
00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:13,960
Speaker 5: about this for quite quite some time, and so I

1068
00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:15,719
Speaker 5: was like, man, if this thing hits, I'm going to

1069
00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:17,600
Speaker 5: get to do what it is that I want to do,

1070
00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:22,320
Speaker 5: which is more family action martial arts movies. And so

1071
00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:24,399
Speaker 5: when that didn't happen, it was.

1072
00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:27,359
Speaker 6: Like a huge blow to the whole thing.

1073
00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:33,680
Speaker 5: I was like, oh my god. But you know, as

1074
00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:36,839
Speaker 5: time moves forward, it was a huge hit at Blockbuster.

1075
00:55:37,160 --> 00:55:40,080
Speaker 6: Every weekend it was sold.

1076
00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:45,640
Speaker 5: Out at Blockbuster. And but you don't really know what

1077
00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:49,360
Speaker 5: like what that really means, you know, because there was

1078
00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:51,799
Speaker 5: no internet really, so you don't really get any of

1079
00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:54,799
Speaker 5: that feedback other than, hey, I'm going to my Blockbuster

1080
00:55:55,040 --> 00:55:58,800
Speaker 5: on sunset over here and it sold out every single weekend.

1081
00:55:59,080 --> 00:56:02,359
Speaker 6: Somebody's buying, somebody's renting this thing.

1082
00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:05,600
Speaker 5: Right. Only until I started doing the comic cons that

1083
00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:10,239
Speaker 5: I realize how popular Because then now I'm like, they're

1084
00:56:10,239 --> 00:56:13,880
Speaker 5: promoting me, you know, as you know, from the Ninja Turtles.

1085
00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:18,759
Speaker 5: But then seventy percent of the people are like, hey, yeah,

1086
00:56:18,760 --> 00:56:25,800
Speaker 5: of course Ninja Turtles, but dude, Surf, that's my movie.

1087
00:56:26,080 --> 00:56:29,160
Speaker 5: Like and so only then have I realized like how

1088
00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:31,279
Speaker 5: popular it is. I mean, I go to travel with

1089
00:56:31,360 --> 00:56:34,440
Speaker 5: these comic cons like now almost every single weekend, and

1090
00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:38,040
Speaker 5: Surf Ninja's is like a huge part of what people

1091
00:56:38,080 --> 00:56:41,400
Speaker 5: are like talking to me about Ninja Turtles is is

1092
00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:44,440
Speaker 5: what it is. It's like undeniable. But you know, I

1093
00:56:44,640 --> 00:56:48,279
Speaker 5: was very surprised and continued to be to see how

1094
00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:51,320
Speaker 5: many people like love that movie. And so those kids

1095
00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:54,480
Speaker 5: that were all in those test screenings, you know that

1096
00:56:54,560 --> 00:56:57,160
Speaker 5: we're cheering that. I thought, oh man, we did it.

1097
00:56:57,280 --> 00:56:59,520
Speaker 5: Like that was what our goal was to do. What

1098
00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:03,279
Speaker 5: we did, what I see the kids responding to. In

1099
00:57:03,320 --> 00:57:06,400
Speaker 5: between that and the marketing and the opening of the movie,

1100
00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:09,719
Speaker 5: something happened and there were no kids in the theaters, right,

1101
00:57:10,239 --> 00:57:13,440
Speaker 5: But you know, all those kids ended up watching it

1102
00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:18,880
Speaker 5: on you know, VHS and then DVD, and so it's

1103
00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:21,720
Speaker 5: really cool to be it's kind of like a sweet

1104
00:57:21,840 --> 00:57:26,680
Speaker 5: you know, sweet revenge to know that it's like, oh God, really,

1105
00:57:26,760 --> 00:57:29,680
Speaker 5: actually what we set out to do, we actually accomplished it.

1106
00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:33,280
Speaker 5: It just didn't in the way that traditional you know.

1107
00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:35,800
Speaker 1: So you say something happened, but have you been able

1108
00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:38,000
Speaker 1: to figure out like was it a marketing problem? Did

1109
00:57:38,120 --> 00:57:41,040
Speaker 1: New Line mess up? Did was it another film that

1110
00:57:41,080 --> 00:57:43,600
Speaker 1: came out that weekend? Do you know, like you I

1111
00:57:43,640 --> 00:57:44,280
Speaker 1: think that it was.

1112
00:57:44,200 --> 00:57:47,600
Speaker 5: A marketing thing. You know, it's a few years. You know,

1113
00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:53,920
Speaker 5: all along the way we were kind of constant deliberation

1114
00:57:54,040 --> 00:57:56,320
Speaker 5: of like who the audience was. You know, if you

1115
00:57:56,360 --> 00:57:58,920
Speaker 5: watch the movie, there's a lot of like adult chokes

1116
00:57:58,960 --> 00:58:03,000
Speaker 5: in there too, hidden amongst everything, right, so we were

1117
00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:06,400
Speaker 5: trying to like lock in on the tone, and I

1118
00:58:06,520 --> 00:58:10,280
Speaker 5: just you know, when I initially first saw the poster,

1119
00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:12,760
Speaker 5: I was like, what, I didn't know if that was

1120
00:58:12,840 --> 00:58:16,360
Speaker 5: really the poster that was gonna get the audience. It

1121
00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:19,480
Speaker 5: just seemed a little too camping, a little too geny,

1122
00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:22,520
Speaker 5: and a little bit like it's kind of trying to

1123
00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:27,080
Speaker 5: ride on the back of Ninja Turtles. And I don't

1124
00:58:27,120 --> 00:58:31,320
Speaker 5: know what exactly, but I feel like it's somewhere in

1125
00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:35,800
Speaker 5: the marketing of it, you know, that it didn't happen because,

1126
00:58:35,880 --> 00:58:37,840
Speaker 5: like I said, I saw the kids, like I saw

1127
00:58:37,880 --> 00:58:41,800
Speaker 5: the test ten test screenings when marketing wasn't a thing,

1128
00:58:42,080 --> 00:58:44,240
Speaker 5: and it was just about the kids being in the theater.

1129
00:58:44,360 --> 00:58:47,400
Speaker 5: They were all there, they loved it. And then why

1130
00:58:47,600 --> 00:58:50,400
Speaker 5: was weren't there any you know, why wasn't there an

1131
00:58:50,440 --> 00:58:52,760
Speaker 5: audience inside the theater? That was week that week?

1132
00:58:52,800 --> 00:58:55,120
Speaker 1: And right so to me as you saw it on

1133
00:58:55,120 --> 00:58:57,640
Speaker 1: the other side too, went the video rental. So yeah,

1134
00:58:57,680 --> 00:59:01,240
Speaker 1: it clearly was working and for much and reaching itself

1135
00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:02,800
Speaker 1: was very yeah, and.

1136
00:59:02,720 --> 00:59:05,240
Speaker 5: It's still like people come up to me still and now,

1137
00:59:05,840 --> 00:59:09,360
Speaker 5: like the Ninja Turtles even with Surf Ninjaes, these kids

1138
00:59:09,520 --> 00:59:12,960
Speaker 5: who grew up on these movies are introducing their kids

1139
00:59:13,040 --> 00:59:16,080
Speaker 5: to these movies. And now I've got you know, eight,

1140
00:59:16,200 --> 00:59:19,680
Speaker 5: nine and ten year olds that are going Quanta dude,

1141
00:59:19,840 --> 00:59:24,320
Speaker 5: like they love happening, you know. So I think that

1142
00:59:24,560 --> 00:59:27,240
Speaker 5: for what we set out to accomplish with the movie,

1143
00:59:27,360 --> 00:59:31,320
Speaker 5: we accomplished that. And so it's nice to see that,

1144
00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:33,760
Speaker 5: you know, with the advent of you know, the Internet

1145
00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:37,560
Speaker 5: and social media that it's getting in Literally just last year,

1146
00:59:38,520 --> 00:59:41,360
Speaker 5: uh you know, was it streaming for the first time.

1147
00:59:41,680 --> 00:59:44,560
Speaker 5: It wasn't streaming anywhere either, and just last year, So

1148
00:59:44,720 --> 00:59:48,480
Speaker 5: now we're getting a whole new audience, you know, and

1149
00:59:48,800 --> 00:59:50,600
Speaker 5: a lot of them are kids, So that's cool.

1150
01:00:03,040 --> 01:00:06,160
Speaker 2: How did you avoid burnout? As you know, we talk

1151
01:00:06,200 --> 01:00:08,480
Speaker 2: a lot about burnout as kids that you know, when

1152
01:00:08,520 --> 01:00:12,040
Speaker 2: you're auditioning or you're on a series the way we were,

1153
01:00:12,080 --> 01:00:13,800
Speaker 2: and then like for Will and Wright, they were doing

1154
01:00:13,840 --> 01:00:18,200
Speaker 2: movies every summer in between those seasons when you're consistently working,

1155
01:00:18,320 --> 01:00:20,840
Speaker 2: and none of us worked as hard as you did

1156
01:00:21,360 --> 01:00:25,240
Speaker 2: when you're working seven days a week, three hundred and

1157
01:00:25,240 --> 01:00:30,440
Speaker 2: sixty five days a year, almost competing movies TV. How

1158
01:00:30,480 --> 01:00:34,160
Speaker 2: did you avoid just total burnout and wanting to give

1159
01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:36,440
Speaker 2: up and walk away even though you were successful.

1160
01:00:38,240 --> 01:00:42,000
Speaker 5: Well that's kind of that's you know, so surfing Ninjas

1161
01:00:42,040 --> 01:00:45,120
Speaker 5: wipes out at the box office, you know that was

1162
01:00:45,200 --> 01:00:54,280
Speaker 5: my cue. Okay, all right, you know now it sounds fun. Yeah.

1163
01:00:54,320 --> 01:00:56,680
Speaker 5: So I'd been working my whole life. Now I'm like

1164
01:00:56,760 --> 01:01:00,760
Speaker 5: twenty one years old, and you know, it was time

1165
01:01:00,880 --> 01:01:04,920
Speaker 5: to just put all that behind me, you know, in

1166
01:01:05,440 --> 01:01:10,080
Speaker 5: a certain way. At that point though, also my dream

1167
01:01:10,200 --> 01:01:14,160
Speaker 5: of independent filmmaking and all of that kind of stuff

1168
01:01:14,280 --> 01:01:19,800
Speaker 5: was really fueling me, like artistically, but it wasn't about

1169
01:01:19,840 --> 01:01:24,680
Speaker 5: like popularity and all the things like chasing Hollywood, and

1170
01:01:25,360 --> 01:01:29,760
Speaker 5: it made me even kind of more like you know,

1171
01:01:29,840 --> 01:01:34,560
Speaker 5: gravitate towards independent filmmaking, which is like hey, okay, peace

1172
01:01:34,600 --> 01:01:37,160
Speaker 5: to Hollywood. Let me just go try to do my

1173
01:01:37,200 --> 01:01:40,600
Speaker 5: own thing, or just I'm done with Hollywood. Basically like

1174
01:01:40,880 --> 01:01:44,600
Speaker 5: I've done everything. I've admitted, I sacrificed it. It didn't

1175
01:01:44,840 --> 01:01:46,720
Speaker 5: pan out the way that I wanted, and now I'm

1176
01:01:46,760 --> 01:01:52,240
Speaker 5: just gonna go crazy, you know, live life and figure

1177
01:01:52,280 --> 01:01:54,840
Speaker 5: it out. So like the burnout kind of like it

1178
01:01:56,080 --> 01:01:59,880
Speaker 5: just the process alone stopped it for me okay. So

1179
01:02:00,080 --> 01:02:02,560
Speaker 5: it's like, before I could get to that point, it

1180
01:02:02,600 --> 01:02:05,080
Speaker 5: was like, well, okay, we kind of flopped at the

1181
01:02:05,080 --> 01:02:08,920
Speaker 5: box office. No one's talking to you right now, So

1182
01:02:09,680 --> 01:02:12,200
Speaker 5: I guess it's time to just, you know, leave all

1183
01:02:12,240 --> 01:02:15,200
Speaker 5: of that behind. And so I just kind of went.

1184
01:02:15,120 --> 01:02:18,080
Speaker 7: Into life, and to be honest, like, you know, you're

1185
01:02:18,120 --> 01:02:21,600
Speaker 7: in now in your early twenties, and you've had success,

1186
01:02:21,720 --> 01:02:23,880
Speaker 7: and you know, you're dealing with all the stuff that

1187
01:02:23,920 --> 01:02:26,400
Speaker 7: we deal with having a huge amount of.

1188
01:02:26,360 --> 01:02:29,280
Speaker 6: Success as a child, and now you're struggling and now you're.

1189
01:02:29,120 --> 01:02:31,160
Speaker 5: Trying to figure it out. And now you're like, I

1190
01:02:31,160 --> 01:02:34,000
Speaker 5: can't even get a normal job, like you know what

1191
01:02:34,000 --> 01:02:37,160
Speaker 5: I mean, You're just you go through the insanity, literal

1192
01:02:37,280 --> 01:02:40,800
Speaker 5: insanity of trying to figure out life and all the

1193
01:02:40,840 --> 01:02:45,600
Speaker 5: things that were kind of that weren't developed because you

1194
01:02:45,640 --> 01:02:49,560
Speaker 5: didn't have the normal growing up period. You just have

1195
01:02:49,640 --> 01:02:52,040
Speaker 5: to do it in your twenties now. And so you're

1196
01:02:52,080 --> 01:02:54,720
Speaker 5: just I went through that whole process, which was you know,

1197
01:02:54,840 --> 01:02:57,520
Speaker 5: just crazy basically Wow.

1198
01:02:57,960 --> 01:03:00,680
Speaker 2: So then I want to I so many questions. I

1199
01:03:00,680 --> 01:03:02,200
Speaker 2: could literally talk to you forever, but I have to

1200
01:03:02,200 --> 01:03:04,400
Speaker 2: get to the fact that you are in literally a

1201
01:03:04,400 --> 01:03:06,919
Speaker 2: perfect movie you're in Rush Hour two and you're also

1202
01:03:07,080 --> 01:03:10,320
Speaker 2: in the Great rock movie The Rundown. When you do

1203
01:03:10,400 --> 01:03:13,880
Speaker 2: these movies and you are around stunt teams and martial

1204
01:03:13,960 --> 01:03:18,560
Speaker 2: arts experts, they must be huge fans of you, like

1205
01:03:19,520 --> 01:03:23,240
Speaker 2: you and your dad helped pave the way. So what

1206
01:03:23,360 --> 01:03:25,560
Speaker 2: is that like when you're on the Are they all

1207
01:03:25,560 --> 01:03:26,680
Speaker 2: big fans of yours?

1208
01:03:27,040 --> 01:03:27,720
Speaker 6: Yeah? I don't know.

1209
01:03:28,480 --> 01:03:31,880
Speaker 5: I'm not sure. Like definitely the stunt community, you know,

1210
01:03:31,920 --> 01:03:35,640
Speaker 5: I'm not so sure about the stars themselves. Yeah, the

1211
01:03:35,680 --> 01:03:38,160
Speaker 5: people that are surrounding that, people that are in the

1212
01:03:38,160 --> 01:03:41,800
Speaker 5: production that are surrounding the stunt guys, the choreographers, and

1213
01:03:41,840 --> 01:03:45,000
Speaker 5: they definitely have been tracking with me the whole time,

1214
01:03:45,040 --> 01:03:48,680
Speaker 5: and you know, are fans of the stuff that we

1215
01:03:48,760 --> 01:03:51,200
Speaker 5: did from you know, day one. The one thing that

1216
01:03:51,240 --> 01:03:54,080
Speaker 5: I will say is is so after surfing Hinges, I

1217
01:03:54,080 --> 01:03:57,720
Speaker 5: didn't really give up. I went a little crazy, just

1218
01:03:57,760 --> 01:04:00,360
Speaker 5: like trying to figure out life and land yep, being

1219
01:04:00,360 --> 01:04:03,960
Speaker 5: a child actor and all that stuff. But I kept training,

1220
01:04:04,080 --> 01:04:10,880
Speaker 5: you know, in between in between Surf Ninjas and the

1221
01:04:11,000 --> 01:04:15,360
Speaker 5: Rundown that was like fifteen years.

1222
01:04:14,520 --> 01:04:16,200
Speaker 2: Again, wow, Yeah.

1223
01:04:15,840 --> 01:04:19,800
Speaker 5: And I didn't stop training, and I didn't really let

1224
01:04:19,920 --> 01:04:23,320
Speaker 5: go of you know, I'd never really let go of

1225
01:04:23,400 --> 01:04:26,520
Speaker 5: like my dream, you know, I just thought that I

1226
01:04:26,520 --> 01:04:28,560
Speaker 5: would have to figure it out some other.

1227
01:04:28,440 --> 01:04:30,840
Speaker 6: Way, basically making it happen.

1228
01:04:33,040 --> 01:04:38,440
Speaker 5: So yeah, and mind you like no auditions, like fifteen years.

1229
01:04:38,480 --> 01:04:41,320
Speaker 5: Like there are times where, like four or five years,

1230
01:04:41,400 --> 01:04:44,440
Speaker 5: you know, I look a certain way on my whole thing.

1231
01:04:44,480 --> 01:04:46,640
Speaker 5: There's not a lot of stuff that's going to be

1232
01:04:46,680 --> 01:04:50,120
Speaker 5: that I'm perfect for or whatever. And so for fifteen

1233
01:04:50,200 --> 01:04:53,000
Speaker 5: years between Surf Ninches and the Rundown, there was nothing.

1234
01:04:53,200 --> 01:04:57,840
Speaker 5: You know, I entered into the theater company, so that's

1235
01:04:57,840 --> 01:04:59,720
Speaker 5: where it kind of like actually started trying to work

1236
01:04:59,720 --> 01:05:02,520
Speaker 5: on my like acting shops a little bit, because prior

1237
01:05:02,560 --> 01:05:04,360
Speaker 5: to that point, I was like, well, I've just been

1238
01:05:04,480 --> 01:05:08,640
Speaker 5: kind of resting on my Yeah, just my own ability

1239
01:05:08,800 --> 01:05:12,000
Speaker 5: as an entertainer wasn't really like an actor per se,

1240
01:05:12,080 --> 01:05:15,360
Speaker 5: even though I had been acting my whole life. So

1241
01:05:15,400 --> 01:05:17,560
Speaker 5: I got into the theater and I and I did

1242
01:05:17,560 --> 01:05:20,480
Speaker 5: stuff like that, but I was training the whole time,

1243
01:05:21,200 --> 01:05:23,400
Speaker 5: you know, with the idea that you know, I'm going

1244
01:05:23,480 --> 01:05:27,440
Speaker 5: to get another shot. So at some point, and so

1245
01:05:28,520 --> 01:05:30,720
Speaker 5: even as an actor, and you know, sometimes you have

1246
01:05:30,760 --> 01:05:33,160
Speaker 5: bad reputation, you know, you you end up having to

1247
01:05:33,480 --> 01:05:33,959
Speaker 5: you know, all.

1248
01:05:33,880 --> 01:05:35,200
Speaker 6: The people that were working with you.

1249
01:05:35,320 --> 01:05:37,760
Speaker 5: Now nothing's going on, and now you get dropped, and

1250
01:05:37,760 --> 01:05:39,840
Speaker 5: now this and that and next thing, you know, you

1251
01:05:39,920 --> 01:05:43,439
Speaker 5: got some flaky agent trying to like yeah, well there's

1252
01:05:43,480 --> 01:05:46,560
Speaker 5: times where it's like four years, there was a stretch

1253
01:05:46,600 --> 01:05:48,600
Speaker 5: of four years there wasn't even an audition.

1254
01:05:49,280 --> 01:05:52,240
Speaker 6: H crazy, wow, right, and I'm still.

1255
01:05:52,000 --> 01:05:54,920
Speaker 5: Just training all day long and going and I got

1256
01:05:54,960 --> 01:05:58,800
Speaker 5: to be prepared when the moment comes. So you know,

1257
01:05:59,440 --> 01:06:01,800
Speaker 5: when you get to a movie like The Rundown, all

1258
01:06:01,840 --> 01:06:06,640
Speaker 5: the people inside of the uh, inside of the you know,

1259
01:06:06,720 --> 01:06:10,120
Speaker 5: the stunt team and the choreographer and the stunt coordinator,

1260
01:06:10,160 --> 01:06:12,400
Speaker 5: they see you. You know, it's a pretty small community

1261
01:06:12,480 --> 01:06:15,840
Speaker 5: to in La. You know, everyone goes to similar places

1262
01:06:15,840 --> 01:06:18,080
Speaker 5: to train and so they see like, hey, I've been

1263
01:06:18,320 --> 01:06:20,840
Speaker 5: I'm still on the top of my game right now,

1264
01:06:22,560 --> 01:06:25,480
Speaker 5: and so you know that helps, you know, when you

1265
01:06:25,520 --> 01:06:28,800
Speaker 5: get into a situation where like the Rundown, for instance,

1266
01:06:28,840 --> 01:06:31,440
Speaker 5: where it's like, Okay, the stunt coordinator knows me. He

1267
01:06:31,480 --> 01:06:34,000
Speaker 5: sees me training over at Valley College every Tuesday and

1268
01:06:34,000 --> 01:06:36,400
Speaker 5: Friday night. He sees me over here, he sees me

1269
01:06:36,440 --> 01:06:39,919
Speaker 5: over there. So you know that that plays its part,

1270
01:06:40,240 --> 01:06:43,520
Speaker 5: you know, in the process. But you know, I don't know.

1271
01:06:43,600 --> 01:06:45,480
Speaker 6: It's uh, you know, with the Rush Hour thing, it

1272
01:06:45,600 --> 01:06:47,760
Speaker 6: was that's a crazy story too.

1273
01:06:49,000 --> 01:06:51,200
Speaker 5: You know. I was supposed to have this whole fight

1274
01:06:51,280 --> 01:06:55,160
Speaker 5: scene with Jackie Chan and and somehow it just didn't

1275
01:06:55,200 --> 01:06:58,240
Speaker 5: happen for whatever reason. You know, I don't know what

1276
01:06:58,360 --> 01:07:00,600
Speaker 5: the reason is, but I know that I was, you know,

1277
01:07:00,720 --> 01:07:05,120
Speaker 5: at the peak of just my physical prowess, and I

1278
01:07:05,200 --> 01:07:07,160
Speaker 5: was ready to go, like, oh.

1279
01:07:07,120 --> 01:07:09,800
Speaker 3: I got Junkie Chan. I mean, come on, that's crazy.

1280
01:07:10,640 --> 01:07:13,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean so. And at Jackie at that point,

1281
01:07:13,480 --> 01:07:15,760
Speaker 5: to be honest, like, you know, he was a little

1282
01:07:15,800 --> 01:07:18,120
Speaker 5: older from I mean, you know from the time that

1283
01:07:18,200 --> 01:07:20,880
Speaker 5: he was I've been watching Jackie Chan since the eighties

1284
01:07:21,000 --> 01:07:23,800
Speaker 5: or whatever. Now you're talking about like a whole other

1285
01:07:23,880 --> 01:07:24,440
Speaker 5: time period.

1286
01:07:24,880 --> 01:07:27,320
Speaker 6: I was still I was like probably in my somewhere

1287
01:07:27,320 --> 01:07:29,680
Speaker 6: in my thirties or so when we did Rush Hour.

1288
01:07:29,760 --> 01:07:31,440
Speaker 5: But I was ready to go. I was super excited.

1289
01:07:31,480 --> 01:07:33,800
Speaker 5: I was like, man, this is it fight teing with

1290
01:07:33,840 --> 01:07:37,160
Speaker 5: me and Jackie Chan. This is gonna be amazing. And

1291
01:07:38,440 --> 01:07:43,440
Speaker 5: it didn't happen for whatever reason, But you know, I

1292
01:07:43,480 --> 01:07:45,400
Speaker 5: was happy. I'm happy to have had the moment.

1293
01:07:46,720 --> 01:07:52,360
Speaker 2: Well, now the family business continues. Your adorable daughter, Lotus Blossom,

1294
01:07:52,360 --> 01:07:55,000
Speaker 2: who started her career in a very memorable T mobile

1295
01:07:55,040 --> 01:07:58,960
Speaker 2: commercial where she was yelling out hidden costs at her

1296
01:07:59,040 --> 01:08:03,560
Speaker 2: lemonade stand. Did she always want to be a performer

1297
01:08:03,640 --> 01:08:04,760
Speaker 2: like you were as a child.

1298
01:08:05,560 --> 01:08:08,560
Speaker 8: I think so, Like she grew up like you know,

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Speaker 8: at that time, like she had seen all the movies

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Speaker 8: that I'd done, and like we had done like a

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Speaker 8: whole kind of tour at the Alamo Draft Houses.

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Speaker 5: Where you know, they were playing The Last Dragon and

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Speaker 5: Surf Ninjas and Ninja Turtles and all that.

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Speaker 6: So she she was kind of prime for that.

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Speaker 5: And she had done a few demos with me and

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Speaker 5: my dad up in northern California, so she had some experience.

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Speaker 5: And yeah, it just and yeah it at some point,

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Speaker 5: I mean, you know, she she wanted to do commercials,

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Speaker 5: and then we did a commercial. And I think that she,

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Speaker 5: more than my son, was like more influenced by like

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Speaker 5: following in my footsteps. You know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, is your son also in the business.

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Speaker 6: Uh not yet.

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Speaker 5: He's kind of like on the peripherree, you know what.

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Speaker 5: He will at some point very soon.

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Speaker 2: So this will be three generations of Ray's projects. Yes, yes,

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Speaker 2: that's pretty exciting. Well, Ernie, what an incredible career you

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Speaker 2: continue to have. I know our listeners are huge fans,

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Speaker 2: and so are the three of us of just your

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Speaker 2: career and you as a person. Thank you so much

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Speaker 2: for joining us today. It has been a pleasure to

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Speaker 2: talk to you and learn from you and hear your experiences.

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Speaker 2: So we thank you well.

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Speaker 6: Thank you very much for having me. I really appreciate you, guys.

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Speaker 3: Thank you. I'm sure we'll see you a con Yes,

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Speaker 3: I'll see you soon.

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Speaker 2: Bye bye. What a career.

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Speaker 4: I also didn't realize how much how much he's done

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Speaker 4: that meant so much to me, especially yeah kidding, like

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Speaker 4: one after another of stuff, of projects that I used

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Speaker 4: to just watch over and over and over again.

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Speaker 1: The ups and downs too, like you know, the fact

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Speaker 1: that he didn't work, like they're making TV shows and

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Speaker 1: movies around him, and then he goes through this whole

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Speaker 1: whole period of like, well doesn't mean anything. Yeah, you know. Also,

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Speaker 1: art only.

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Speaker 2: Imagine any other world where you make the Last Dragon,

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Speaker 2: red Sonia, tun Ninja, Turtles movies and then and multiple

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Speaker 2: TV shows that are all successful, and then you do

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Speaker 2: one movie that isn't successful. And for fifteen.

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Speaker 1: Years you're working just as hard the entire time, you

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Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like it doesn't change for you.

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Speaker 3: Changed for you.

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Speaker 1: The experience is still waking up every day, training, focusing

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Speaker 1: on your career, like having the same ambition and committing

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Speaker 1: to it with the same amount of intensity.

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Speaker 2: And also you probably didn't do anything different in that

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Speaker 2: project that you had done in all the successful ones.

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Speaker 2: But somehow you're blamed the blame yeah for and no,

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Speaker 2: everyone's like, wow, he's not the vehicle maker anymore. It's

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Speaker 2: like what it's It's just crazy.

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Speaker 1: It's a maddening industry, guys.

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Speaker 3: It's also but it's also a trendy industry.

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Speaker 4: And for the eighties and early nineties, young martial artists

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Speaker 4: was a big thing. So you have three Ninjas and

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Speaker 4: surf Ninjas and Revenge of the Ninja and Teenage Mutant

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Speaker 4: Ninja chur.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it was like one after that and then

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Speaker 3: it goes away. It's like, oh, we don't do martial

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Speaker 3: arts anymore, and then.

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Speaker 1: It comes back, and then.

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Speaker 4: It does, so it's totally sick siclicur ciclicole. So you

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Speaker 4: just don't know when it's gonna come or what's gonna come?

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Speaker 4: I mean the nineties super hot right now? You just

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Speaker 4: you never know what's coming back.

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