Speaker 1: Hi, everyone, Welcome to Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com.
Speaker 1: I am Mike Spofford. He is my colleague West Hodkowits,
Speaker 1: and we're coming to you here from our studios at
Speaker 1: lambeau Field and West. The regular season finale is almost
Speaker 1: upon us here. Packers Lions will take place Sunday at
Speaker 1: Ford Field in Detroit, a noon Central time kickoff, the
Speaker 1: final game of the season for both teams. Neither the
Speaker 1: Packers nor the Lions has any playoff aspirations at this point.
Speaker 1: As we break down the Lions here on both sides
Speaker 1: of the ball, we know offensively it starts with Matthew Stafford,
Speaker 1: the quarterback. And I'll say this with what Matthew Stafford
Speaker 1: did when he came in here in early November in
Speaker 1: a Monday night game at lambeau Field, I know there's
Speaker 1: going to be different personnel on both sides of the ball,
Speaker 1: Lions offense Packers defense, and we can talk about that
Speaker 1: a little bit, but I think this Packers defense is
Speaker 1: uh is going to be, you know, out to redeem
Speaker 1: themselves a little bit, because that performance on Monday night
Speaker 1: against Stafford out here was not what Green Bay was looking. No,
Speaker 1: it really wasn't Mike. And I mean you go back
Speaker 1: and look at that contest and it's it's kind of
Speaker 1: fresh in your memory. How well the Packers bottled up
Speaker 1: a mere abduel on that running offense. I mean, they
Speaker 1: average one point nine yards per carry, but Matthew Stafford
Speaker 1: a hundred and thirty two point four pass rating through
Speaker 1: for three yards two touchdowns. Golden Tate and Marvin Jones Jr.
Speaker 1: Both had big games. They didn't have to run the
Speaker 1: ball because they were able to pass the ball so well. So, um,
Speaker 1: I'd like to sit here and say that this this
Speaker 1: secretary is different for Green Bay, but really they're in
Speaker 1: the same predicament. They were those you know, six seven
Speaker 1: weeks ago in that really banged up at cornerback. And
Speaker 1: obviously they do have Morgan Burnett and Clinton Dick's available,
Speaker 1: but Moore is being asked of them too because of
Speaker 1: the domino effect at the cornerback position. Yeah, and when
Speaker 1: you look at this Lions offense, where the personnel will
Speaker 1: be very similar to that Monday night game here at
Speaker 1: lambeau Field, is Matthew Stafford's targets. You have Marvin Jones Jr.
Speaker 1: He's over a thousand yards this year. Golden Tate is
Speaker 1: about a hundred yards shy of another thousand yards season
Speaker 1: for him. Tight End Eric Ebron putting together a season
Speaker 1: looks pretty similar statistically to what he did last year.
Speaker 1: Maybe a few more targets in the red zone for
Speaker 1: some scores, but a lot of changes in terms of
Speaker 1: what the Lions are doing in the backfield and also
Speaker 1: on the offensive line up front because of some injuries. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Tian Green now is the guy undrafted rookie running back
Speaker 1: on a Cincinnati that they turned to. Um. I mean
Speaker 1: we all know the history there of the running game
Speaker 1: for the Lions. I think it's now somewhere around sixty
Speaker 1: consecutive games without a hundred yard rusher by far, the
Speaker 1: longest streak right now, the longest skid in the NFL
Speaker 1: without a player you know, crossing that threshold. Um. But
Speaker 1: I do look at the receivers in this matchup and
Speaker 1: and certainly you want to make him one Dimentially you
Speaker 1: want to throw The Packers have to have an answer
Speaker 1: answer here for Marvin Jones. They didn't last year. He
Speaker 1: had another big game this season. UM. So whether it
Speaker 1: is Devon House, if they could get to Marius Randall
Speaker 1: back after having the knee injury that he was dealing
Speaker 1: with over the weekend that he was unable to play
Speaker 1: with one way or another, you have to contain him, uh,
Speaker 1: As strange as it sounds, you want to be able
Speaker 1: to take away those perimeter threats. If anything, you want
Speaker 1: to see them run the ball a little bit more
Speaker 1: because I think that plays into the Packers strength, uh
Speaker 1: and what they can do defensively. It's gonna be interesting
Speaker 1: to watch. I mean, Stafford is at a position in
Speaker 1: his career where he's kind of entering that that Aaron
Speaker 1: Rodgers Peyton Manning type echelon where he can control things
Speaker 1: that the line of scrimmage he can you know, just
Speaker 1: off of what he's seeing defensively. So those are all
Speaker 1: things that Packers are gonna have to take into account
Speaker 1: because as banged up as the Lions are in their
Speaker 1: offensive line, the perimeter threats are certainly still available for Stafford.
Speaker 1: I think that's the biggest thing I've seen with Stafford
Speaker 1: over these last couple of years in terms of, you know,
Speaker 1: we get to see him twice a year and seeing
Speaker 1: his game evolve, is he seems to be doing more
Speaker 1: and more at the line of scrimmage. This offense with
Speaker 1: Jim Bob Cooter as the offensive coordinator, really giving him
Speaker 1: the freedom to to dictate things and run what he
Speaker 1: wants and and uh and really run the show there.
Speaker 1: And the other thing he's doing if you've watched some
Speaker 1: of their games, he's picked up that Aaron Rodgers thing
Speaker 1: of catching the defense with twelve on the field when
Speaker 1: they're trying to substitute, and he'll get the snap off
Speaker 1: and get a free play. He did it on on
Speaker 1: Thanksgiving Day against the Minnesota Vikings and through a touchdown
Speaker 1: pass about a forty yard pass for a TV on
Speaker 1: a free play when the Vikings didn't get their twelfth
Speaker 1: guy off the field. So his game, his game as
Speaker 1: he evolved, he has definitely worked his way into the
Speaker 1: that upper Echelona quarterbacks. Like you say, he's not Tom Brady,
Speaker 1: he's not Aaron Rodgers, he's not Drew Brees, but he's
Speaker 1: awfully close. Yeah. And and the thing is too. I Mean,
Speaker 1: obviously they're coming off what I think they would even
Speaker 1: admit it was a tough loss against the Cincinnati Bengals.
Speaker 1: That's a game I think they were expecting to win
Speaker 1: to stay in that play off hunt. Yeah, they were
Speaker 1: expecting to be playing the Packers this week. It's still
Speaker 1: a shot at a playoff spot, and that went out
Speaker 1: the window with a loss to the Bengal. It went
Speaker 1: out the window, Mike, And but I mean offensively, eighth
Speaker 1: and in scoring this year twenty five points per gamete
Speaker 1: and total yards, they're they're passing game six. It's that
Speaker 1: thirty second rushing offense that's kind of dragged them down
Speaker 1: a little bit. But overall the offense has been effective.
Speaker 1: The seventh ranked defense that we'll talk about in a second,
Speaker 1: I think it's kind of been a little bit of
Speaker 1: a letdown for them. But offensively, I think you got
Speaker 1: to give Stafford a lot of credit again, especially considering
Speaker 1: those moving parts on the offensive line. Travis Swanson still
Speaker 1: in the concussion protocol at the time that we're taping this.
Speaker 1: Rick Wagner, the big signing and right tackle, has been
Speaker 1: dealing with an ankle injury. I think missed three or
Speaker 1: four games now. In t J lang Uh, you know,
Speaker 1: obviously one of the toughest guys I think you and
Speaker 1: I have ever probably covered, but he's dealt with a
Speaker 1: litany of injuries as well this year. I believe it's
Speaker 1: the foot right now. He had some issues with this
Speaker 1: fibula at the shoulder, um so, and then Don Barklay
Speaker 1: replaced him, and then he's to stand a concussion. So uh,
Speaker 1: And it'll be very interesting to see what this offensive
Speaker 1: line looks like on Sunday and if the Packers potentially
Speaker 1: could take advantage of some of those uh, you know, replacements. Yeah,
Speaker 1: really quickly before we go to a break. There are
Speaker 1: some clips out of coming out of Detroit in the
Speaker 1: media wondering whether Jake Ruddock, their backup quarterbacks, should play
Speaker 1: instead of Stafford just because the playoff stuff is out
Speaker 1: the window. Do you think they're going to go that direct?
Speaker 1: I don't think so. And listen to Jim Caldwell talk
Speaker 1: in the conference call. He said, we already play plenty
Speaker 1: of rookies the way it is, so it's not like
Speaker 1: we're gonna approach this game any differently. And I think
Speaker 1: it's the same thing with Stafford. Stafford has been kind
Speaker 1: of banged up this year. I think there was a
Speaker 1: hand injury, some other things he's been playing through. But
Speaker 1: I would think that they're going to give him the
Speaker 1: opportunity to still be out there with this offense. Well,
Speaker 1: you never know. You see how the game situation plays out.
Speaker 1: But as far as this game starting on Sunday, I
Speaker 1: really do think that he's going to be the guy
Speaker 1: that the Packers are gonna have to go up against. Okay,
Speaker 1: and with that, we'll toss it to a break back
Speaker 1: with more on Packers Unscripted right after this. Welcome back
Speaker 1: to Packers Unscripted. Mike Spofford in this chair, West Hodkowitz
Speaker 1: in that one in West, shifting gears to the Detroit
Speaker 1: Lions defense. There's one guy that definitely jumps off the page,
Speaker 1: and he's got one of the best nicknames in all
Speaker 1: of football. They call him Darius Big Play Sligh, the
Speaker 1: star cornerback, and he's living up to that nickname this
Speaker 1: year seven interceptions, leading the league all by his lonesome,
Speaker 1: the only player in the NFL with seven picks this year.
Speaker 1: You gotta watch out for this cat, you really do.
Speaker 1: Mike seven interceptions in fifteen games this season, comparatively six
Speaker 1: interceptions during his first four seasons combined. I'll say this,
Speaker 1: when they gave him that extension, I was actually somewhat
Speaker 1: you know, skeptical of that. I was trying to determine
Speaker 1: whether or not he was really or could be viewed
Speaker 1: as one of those top upper echelon cornerbacks. I think
Speaker 1: him and Xavier Rhodes the pacar Cy two of the
Speaker 1: best that there are, not only in the NFC but
Speaker 1: in the NFL now in this division. And really how
Speaker 1: he's modified his game this year and how he's come on, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you had that game against the Bears. He got two
Speaker 1: picks off at Rubiskie. You can say what you want
Speaker 1: about that. You need to get the interceptions when they're there.
Speaker 1: He certainly made those plays, and I think that's probably
Speaker 1: one of the more I don't want to say confusing,
Speaker 1: but one of the more confounding things about this defense.
Speaker 1: I mean, I believe they're twenty and passing in total yards.
Speaker 1: The passer rating has been affected. It's fifteenth in the
Speaker 1: league thanks to those seven interceptions contribute to their team
Speaker 1: total of seventeen. But I have been surprised when you
Speaker 1: have it, and we just got done talking about it
Speaker 1: before the segment, when you have Slay, when you have
Speaker 1: Glover Quinn, that that hasn't resulted in in a little bit,
Speaker 1: you know, I guess less production than what it has
Speaker 1: so far for the for the Lions. Yeah, you're surprised.
Speaker 1: I certainly, I'm surprised when you look at individually seven
Speaker 1: interceptions from Slay Ziggy as has got nine sacks. They've
Speaker 1: you know, they've had some some pass rush there upfront.
Speaker 1: I think Glover quinn is is a quality safety in
Speaker 1: the NFL. But overall, the team statistics haven't really added
Speaker 1: up to maybe what some of those individual efforts you
Speaker 1: you think they would so to be as you say,
Speaker 1: and you know, essentially in the bottom kind of the
Speaker 1: bottom ten percent bottom of the league and passing yards allowed,
Speaker 1: total yards allowed. It's really been the biggest downfall of
Speaker 1: this team. I know. A lot obviously was put on
Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford to continue the ascent in his career and
Speaker 1: he's done that. Although offensively they have had some games
Speaker 1: where they've fallen short and uh and really that's the
Speaker 1: reason that they're not playing for a playoff spot now
Speaker 1: where they expected to be in the hunt here heading
Speaker 1: into this final game against the Packers. But defensively, I
Speaker 1: think if the if the Lions are gonna undergo, you know,
Speaker 1: any kind of an overhaul in the offseason personnel wise,
Speaker 1: I think they're going to focus on that side of
Speaker 1: the ball. Yeah, it's gonna be interesting to see exactly
Speaker 1: what their thought processes because you have to weigh who
Speaker 1: they lost. You know, hello, Ti Nadas out for the season,
Speaker 1: Carrie Hyder was lost right off the bat, Tavon Wilson
Speaker 1: and who we had a role in that defense in
Speaker 1: the secondary. He's gone, so they've had to make some
Speaker 1: adjustments there. So naturally there's going to be somewhat of
Speaker 1: a drop off, but um it is. It is confounding
Speaker 1: because I thought when we saw them earlier this season,
Speaker 1: I even going back to last year, I thought they
Speaker 1: were really on the cusp of something special, which is
Speaker 1: a lot testament to them, you know, after losing nodami Ensue,
Speaker 1: after having to transition to a different type of defense
Speaker 1: built around other players, that they were able to do that.
Speaker 1: You know, certainly Ziggy Ans is still a part of
Speaker 1: this equation nine sacks on the season, leading them at
Speaker 1: their team total of thirty one. But they've had to
Speaker 1: find production from different spots this year than I think
Speaker 1: what we've grown accustomed to in years past. Yeah, I'll
Speaker 1: be curious to see, you know, with the Packers, does
Speaker 1: Davante Adams come back, you know from his injury to
Speaker 1: uh to play in this final game, because if he does,
Speaker 1: then you know that matchup is going to be Slay
Speaker 1: against Adams, you know on the outside. If Adams doesn't play,
Speaker 1: then you know, then what is the matchup that the
Speaker 1: Lions want to to use with Sligh Because at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, Um, you know, Slay is going
Speaker 1: to be looking for any throws from Brett Hunley that
Speaker 1: come his way. He's going to try to attack. He's
Speaker 1: gonna he's gonna try to finish his season on as
Speaker 1: higher note as possible. And he's a guy I think
Speaker 1: that Brett Henley has got to be careful of. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And I don't want to turn this into every single week. Okay,
Speaker 1: the Packers need to run the ball, but I think
Speaker 1: there is an opportunity there. Uh. The Cincinnati Bengals had
Speaker 1: a lot of issues this year with their backfield. They
Speaker 1: drafted Joe Mixon, things didn't really come together, I think
Speaker 1: as they hoped. But Giovanni Bernard ends up getting the
Speaker 1: call last week in that matchup, runs for hundred sixteen
Speaker 1: yards at five yards per carry, So I think this
Speaker 1: is an opportunity for Jamal Williams to get going. Certainly,
Speaker 1: we're gonna have to see where Aaron Jones is at
Speaker 1: with that knee injury. But the Packers have shown at times,
Speaker 1: especially in these dome type environments, that they can run
Speaker 1: the football when they have to. So to your original point, yeah,
Speaker 1: Bred Huntley has to be cognizant of where the football is.
Speaker 1: He's played well on the road this season. For everything
Speaker 1: that's been made out of what's happened at lambeau Field,
Speaker 1: he has been solid, particularly in those those dome type environments.
Speaker 1: So a lot of things to play into there as
Speaker 1: far as the passing games concerned. But I really do
Speaker 1: believe when you look at how they've been banged up
Speaker 1: on the offense or the defensive line this year, for
Speaker 1: the lines, there's an opportunity there for Jamal Williams to
Speaker 1: really finish this season on a high note. Yeah, no
Speaker 1: question about it. With that, we'll throw to a break
Speaker 1: back with more on Packers Unscripted right after this. Welcome
Speaker 1: back to Packers Unscripted. Mike Spofford here, Wes hod Kuits
Speaker 1: all the way over there, Um, West a story that
Speaker 1: that you're posting this week on Packers dot Com, A
Speaker 1: special story I think, at least in my opinion, on
Speaker 1: Vetor cornerback Devon House, and you kind of went back
Speaker 1: into a little bit of the history as to why
Speaker 1: he wanted to come back to Green Bay in the offseason.
Speaker 1: He jumped at the opportunity to do so after two
Speaker 1: years in Jacksonville. One of the reasons being cornerbacks coach
Speaker 1: Joe Witt Jr. And the bond that he had with
Speaker 1: his position coach for four years in Green Bay, and
Speaker 1: that bond had a lot to do with some off
Speaker 1: the field things, not just the on the field coaching
Speaker 1: part of it. Tell us about it, Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: that this is a good illustration of what this game does,
Speaker 1: not only on the field between the you know, the
Speaker 1: sidelines in terms of Devon House the football player, but
Speaker 1: Divon House the person. Now, one of the things that
Speaker 1: that Joe Witz said, and this is a story I've
Speaker 1: been working on really since the beginning of the season.
Speaker 1: You know, a lot of different things happened with how
Speaker 1: it's with his injuries that it kind of delayed a
Speaker 1: lot of these processes, But talking to him after the
Speaker 1: game a little bit. It brought a lot of this back,
Speaker 1: and it starts really with just his battle with dyslexia.
Speaker 1: It's something that he dealt with going all the way
Speaker 1: back to high school um and and really it was
Speaker 1: one of the things that was really challenging for him
Speaker 1: when he went to the college level because he never
Speaker 1: really got a firm grasped of what he needed to
Speaker 1: do to overcome it. He said, even in his senior
Speaker 1: year of high school, he was really reading at a
Speaker 1: fourth and fifth grade reading level. He would read the words,
Speaker 1: they just didn't quite make sense and with it was
Speaker 1: fascinating talking to him about this because he battles it too,
Speaker 1: and his parents are pretty proactive with it. He was
Speaker 1: held back in kindergarten and really I had a lot
Speaker 1: of resources, a lot of people that helped him out
Speaker 1: so that he, you know, even though there were some
Speaker 1: difficulties along the way, he always felt empowered by it.
Speaker 1: So I think that was the biggest thing for House
Speaker 1: when he got to Green Bay. He credits his wife
Speaker 1: a lot for helping him get through college books on tape,
Speaker 1: all that fun stuff really helped him and his learning process.
Speaker 1: But it was when he met Joe Wit in that
Speaker 1: year that they spent together, that first season, that he
Speaker 1: really started to gain a deeper appreciation for it, in
Speaker 1: kind of understanding that this isn't something that necessarily has
Speaker 1: to define you as a person, and that you can
Speaker 1: overcome it and learn in different ways. Yeah. I was
Speaker 1: really fascinated by some of the stuff you brought out
Speaker 1: in that story, going back to when House was a
Speaker 1: fourth round draft pick out of New Mexico State in
Speaker 1: two thousand eleven making his way into the NFL. He
Speaker 1: gets to know his position coach, and I mean right
Speaker 1: from the get go when Devon House got here, I
Speaker 1: was impressed with how articulate he was, you know, and
Speaker 1: same with Joe Wit and getting to know him over
Speaker 1: the years when he does press conferences, interviews with reporters,
Speaker 1: very articulate, very well spoken. You would never know that
Speaker 1: either of these men had dealt with something like this,
Speaker 1: you know, a disability for lack of a better word
Speaker 1: at this point, but something like dyslexia that that can
Speaker 1: be so difficult to handle it and can be so
Speaker 1: difficult to overcome. I had absolutely no idea, and I
Speaker 1: was fascinated to hear how they You know how House
Speaker 1: used a lot of tips and tools and and other
Speaker 1: things from Joe Witt, who would who had gone through
Speaker 1: much of what he did in his younger days to
Speaker 1: help him out. Yeah, and it's interesting too because there's
Speaker 1: numerous different aspects of this story. Like it's not like
Speaker 1: Devon House just came in and lit the world on
Speaker 1: fire either as a football player. With said, I mean
Speaker 1: he had a lot of natural god given ability, but
Speaker 1: as he even joked with me and that he was
Speaker 1: lazy from the get go, and and he said, I mean,
Speaker 1: as much as you know they had that bond off
Speaker 1: the field, he pushes him even to this day. And
Speaker 1: you know, he even said, I mean, if there was
Speaker 1: any player that I was ever gonna hate me, it
Speaker 1: was gonna be Devon House because of how hard he
Speaker 1: was on him those first two seasons, because he could
Speaker 1: see the natural ability and House, you know, he didn't
Speaker 1: really have a chance to get that extended playing time
Speaker 1: in his time in Green Bay, but he became a
Speaker 1: better cornerback obviously, had the season that he did with
Speaker 1: Jacksonville in two thousand fifteen and came back this year
Speaker 1: really wanted to be that veteran presence that you know,
Speaker 1: Trumon Williams and Jared Bush and Charles Woodson were to
Speaker 1: him to this younger group. So while things on the
Speaker 1: field might not have gone every way that the Packers
Speaker 1: wanted to, Devon House wanted certainly wanted to chase that
Speaker 1: Super Bowl ring. He's really grateful dozen second guess that
Speaker 1: decision and was very happy to have that opportunity to
Speaker 1: be back in Green Bay. And also he mentioned that
Speaker 1: was one of the reasons why it was so important
Speaker 1: him to play in that game against Minnesota, despite the
Speaker 1: back injury had sustained, despite the lingering shoulder problem that
Speaker 1: might have been. He's a free agent after season. That
Speaker 1: might have been his last chance again at lambeau Field,
Speaker 1: and he wanted to take advantage. Yeah, we don't know
Speaker 1: exactly what's going to happen now with Devon House in
Speaker 1: the off season. He did just sign a one year contract.
Speaker 1: That could have been his last game at Lambeulfield. I
Speaker 1: give the guy a ton of credit because boy, looking
Speaker 1: at him, as we talked about last week, looking at
Speaker 1: him coming off of the field in Cleveland when he
Speaker 1: got kicked in the back there by Josh Gordon, just
Speaker 1: an unfortunate collision that was really nobody's fault. But but
Speaker 1: the way it happened, the fact that he just missed
Speaker 1: one game and got back out on the field, I
Speaker 1: give him a lot of crepe. And he's been dealing
Speaker 1: to with that hamstring quad injury earlier in the season,
Speaker 1: he said even last week and he was still wrapping
Speaker 1: that up. So, I mean there's a lot of things
Speaker 1: that he's played through because of how much it means
Speaker 1: to him. Despite the fact that obviously it doesn't matter
Speaker 1: right now for the Packer's playoff implications, he wanted to
Speaker 1: be out there. Yeah. Absolutely. Before we go to our
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Speaker 1: more on Packers Unscripted right after this Welcome back to
Speaker 1: Packers Unscripted. Mike Spofford alongside West, Hodgkowits and West. Before
Speaker 1: we go, a roster moved the Packers made earlier this
Speaker 1: week that we need to mention, and that is that
Speaker 1: Jason Spriggs, coming off of what Mike McCarthy termed a
Speaker 1: rather serious knee injury, is officially on injured reserve. He
Speaker 1: will miss the regular season finale here against Detroit and
Speaker 1: Mr Jack of all trades Justin McCrae. Uh, you know,
Speaker 1: he just raises his hand and goes in wherever he's
Speaker 1: asked to play, and uh, and for everything that he
Speaker 1: has done this year, he will now finish the season
Speaker 1: as the starting right tackle. Yeah, it's pretty incredible how
Speaker 1: this journey has played out for Justin McCrae. If you
Speaker 1: look at his last twelve to sixteen months working at
Speaker 1: a hotel, playing the Arena Football League, doing whatever he
Speaker 1: can to revitalize his hopes for the NFL, and then
Speaker 1: he ends up, you know, likely starting half the games
Speaker 1: for the Packers on the offensive line this season and
Speaker 1: playing well too. I mean, this is the thing I
Speaker 1: think that stood out the most. Mean I was talking
Speaker 1: with him and also Lucas Patrick who jumped in at
Speaker 1: right guard. I don't think people can really appreciate how
Speaker 1: difficult it is for Justin McCraw to half the game
Speaker 1: he did against the Minnesota Vikings, against those pass rushers.
Speaker 1: He spent the entire week preparing to be their starting
Speaker 1: right guard, which, by the way, one of the only
Speaker 1: positions he hadn't played this year because Jerry Evans was
Speaker 1: active in every game, played every snap, he was fully
Speaker 1: prepared for that position. One play, Jason Sprigs gets out,
Speaker 1: gets carded off the field, and McCrae has to go
Speaker 1: back to right tackle, And Packers have talked about it. Naturally,
Speaker 1: his best spot is in the interior offensive line, that's
Speaker 1: the way he's built. But how he's been able to
Speaker 1: stem the tide at those tackle positions this year, it's
Speaker 1: pretty incredible when you look at it, because this is
Speaker 1: a guy who I don't think a lot of people
Speaker 1: gave a big chance in the offseason program to make
Speaker 1: the roster, and now he's become arguably probably the biggest
Speaker 1: breakout performer for the Packers this season. Yeah, I would agree.
Speaker 1: I think I think that's the right way to put it,
Speaker 1: as a breakout performer. And you wonder now just what
Speaker 1: the future holds for Justin McCray because Jerry Evans will
Speaker 1: be a free agent the right guard. He signed just
Speaker 1: a one year contract. Maybe the Packers bring him back,
Speaker 1: maybe they don't. Justin McCrae would certainly have an opportunity
Speaker 1: to compete for a starting job there at right guard
Speaker 1: if Evans is not retained. Um, but even if if
Speaker 1: everything sort of stays status quo in in whatever way
Speaker 1: that is heading into into Justin MCC's value is is
Speaker 1: just off the charts here in terms of a reserve
Speaker 1: guy that they that they've decided and determined that they
Speaker 1: can they can plug him in just about anywhere and
Speaker 1: get through a game with with a reliable quality performance.
Speaker 1: And he would hate that will end up saying this,
Speaker 1: but I mean, I think this is also one more
Speaker 1: reason Alonso Heismith is one of the best in the
Speaker 1: business when it comes to finding personnel. I mean, he
Speaker 1: was at that pro day at u c F. They
Speaker 1: McCray brothers, the Twins begged basically to be at that
Speaker 1: pro day with all the other players coming out, Alonso
Speaker 1: Heismiths there from the Packers, sees him, scouts him, gives
Speaker 1: the report, the Packers sign him, and he ends up
Speaker 1: coming in here on a very deep, very talented, big
Speaker 1: group of offensive lineman this summer and he ends up
Speaker 1: making the roster and the rest of history. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: just never know what's going to happen in this league sometimes.
Speaker 1: But with that, we're going to call it a wrap
Speaker 1: on this edition of Packers Unscripted. Be sure to follow
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