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Speaker 1: Hi, everyone, Welcome to Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com.

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Speaker 1: I am Mike Spofford. He is my colleague West Hodkowits,

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Speaker 1: and we're coming to you here from our studios at

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Speaker 1: lambeau Field and West. The regular season finale is almost

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Speaker 1: upon us here. Packers Lions will take place Sunday at

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Speaker 1: Ford Field in Detroit, a noon Central time kickoff, the

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Speaker 1: final game of the season for both teams. Neither the

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Speaker 1: Packers nor the Lions has any playoff aspirations at this point.

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Speaker 1: As we break down the Lions here on both sides

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Speaker 1: of the ball, we know offensively it starts with Matthew Stafford,

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Speaker 1: the quarterback. And I'll say this with what Matthew Stafford

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Speaker 1: did when he came in here in early November in

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Speaker 1: a Monday night game at lambeau Field, I know there's

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Speaker 1: going to be different personnel on both sides of the ball,

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Speaker 1: Lions offense Packers defense, and we can talk about that

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Speaker 1: a little bit, but I think this Packers defense is

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Speaker 1: uh is going to be, you know, out to redeem

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Speaker 1: themselves a little bit, because that performance on Monday night

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Speaker 1: against Stafford out here was not what Green Bay was looking. No,

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Speaker 1: it really wasn't Mike. And I mean you go back

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Speaker 1: and look at that contest and it's it's kind of

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Speaker 1: fresh in your memory. How well the Packers bottled up

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Speaker 1: a mere abduel on that running offense. I mean, they

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Speaker 1: average one point nine yards per carry, but Matthew Stafford

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Speaker 1: a hundred and thirty two point four pass rating through

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Speaker 1: for three yards two touchdowns. Golden Tate and Marvin Jones Jr.

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Speaker 1: Both had big games. They didn't have to run the

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Speaker 1: I'd like to sit here and say that this this

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Speaker 1: secretary is different for Green Bay, but really they're in

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Speaker 1: the same predicament. They were those you know, six seven

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Speaker 1: weeks ago in that really banged up at cornerback. And

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Speaker 1: obviously they do have Morgan Burnett and Clinton Dick's available,

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Speaker 1: but Moore is being asked of them too because of

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Speaker 1: the domino effect at the cornerback position. Yeah, and when

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Speaker 1: you look at this Lions offense, where the personnel will

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Speaker 1: be very similar to that Monday night game here at

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Speaker 1: He's over a thousand yards this year. Golden Tate is

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Speaker 1: about a hundred yards shy of another thousand yards season

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Speaker 1: for him. Tight End Eric Ebron putting together a season

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Speaker 1: looks pretty similar statistically to what he did last year.

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Speaker 1: Maybe a few more targets in the red zone for

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Speaker 1: some scores, but a lot of changes in terms of

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Speaker 1: what the Lions are doing in the backfield and also

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Speaker 1: on the offensive line up front because of some injuries. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Tian Green now is the guy undrafted rookie running back

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Speaker 1: we all know the history there of the running game

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Speaker 1: consecutive games without a hundred yard rusher by far, the

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Speaker 1: longest streak right now, the longest skid in the NFL

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Speaker 1: I do look at the receivers in this matchup and

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Speaker 1: and certainly you want to make him one Dimentially you

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Speaker 1: want to throw The Packers have to have an answer

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Speaker 1: answer here for Marvin Jones. They didn't last year. He

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Speaker 1: had another big game this season. UM. So whether it

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Speaker 1: is Devon House, if they could get to Marius Randall

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Speaker 1: with one way or another, you have to contain him, uh,

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Speaker 1: As strange as it sounds, you want to be able

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Speaker 1: to take away those perimeter threats. If anything, you want

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Speaker 1: to watch. I mean, Stafford is at a position in

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Speaker 1: that the line of scrimmage he can you know, just

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Speaker 1: off of what he's seeing defensively. So those are all

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Speaker 1: because as banged up as the Lions are in their

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Speaker 1: I think that's the biggest thing I've seen with Stafford

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Speaker 1: And the other thing he's doing if you've watched some

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Speaker 1: he evolved, he has definitely worked his way into the

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Speaker 1: that upper Echelona quarterbacks. Like you say, he's not Tom Brady,

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Speaker 1: awfully close. Yeah. And and the thing is too. I Mean,

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Speaker 1: admit it was a tough loss against the Cincinnati Bengals.

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Speaker 1: That's a game I think they were expecting to win

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Speaker 1: expecting to be playing the Packers this week. It's still

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Speaker 1: out the window, Mike, And but I mean offensively, eighth

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Speaker 1: And it'll be very interesting to see what this offensive

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Speaker 1: with more on Packers Unscripted right after this. Welcome back

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Speaker 1: to Packers Unscripted. Mike Spofford in this chair, West Hodkowitz

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Speaker 1: in that one in West, shifting gears to the Detroit

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Speaker 1: Lions defense. There's one guy that definitely jumps off the page,

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Speaker 1: and he's got one of the best nicknames in all

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Speaker 1: of football. They call him Darius Big Play Sligh, the

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Speaker 1: You gotta watch out for this cat, you really do.

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Speaker 1: Mike seven interceptions in fifteen games this season, comparatively six

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Speaker 1: I mean, I believe they're twenty and passing in total yards.

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Speaker 1: The passer rating has been affected. It's fifteenth in the

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Speaker 1: he's done that. Although offensively they have had some games

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Speaker 1: where they expected to be in the hunt here heading

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Speaker 1: just never know what's going to happen in this league sometimes.

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Speaker 1: But with that, we're going to call it a wrap

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Speaker 1: on this edition of Packers Unscripted. Be sure to follow

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