1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:00,720 Speaker 1: Levels To. 2 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 2: This is an iHeart women's sports production in partnership with 3 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:05,320 Speaker 2: Deep Blue Sports and Entertainment. 4 00:00:05,559 --> 00:00:08,080 Speaker 1: You can find us on the iHeartRadio. 5 00:00:07,360 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 2: App, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. 6 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:17,439 Speaker 3: Hey, what's going on? 7 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 1: Everybody? It's your girl? Srika Foster Brasby. 8 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:20,799 Speaker 2: What's up, y'all? 9 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:23,919 Speaker 1: Is your girl? Cheryl swoops a stuffy one, but it's 10 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 1: me ay And this is levels to. 11 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 4: This podcast is the show where we share that it 12 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 4: is levels to the ship that women go through. And honey, 13 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 4: we have got a very fun show lined up for 14 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 4: you today. But first, schul it seems like you can't 15 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 4: briefe what you got going on over there. 16 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 1: I don't know. 17 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 2: I'm here, I don't know. It's knock on wood. I 18 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 2: very rarely get sick like this stuff. But I think 19 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 2: it's that time of year. Like the weather, first of all, 20 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 2: have been really beautiful, and then the last few days 21 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:06,480 Speaker 2: it got in the thirties here in Houston and raining, 22 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 2: and I don't know, I thought I could still walk 23 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 2: outside with flip flops and shorts, and yep, two days later, 24 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 2: I'm sniffling and shitting and coughing and all things. 25 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:22,319 Speaker 1: And now I'm stuffy. 26 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 2: I don't even throw bath. You Tomo, listen and you 27 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 2: tell the people what you got to do. When you 28 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 2: tell the people where you going and. 29 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 4: What you're about to do, listen here, listen. We don't 30 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 4: even need to talk about me what I'm about to go. 31 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 4: Do you see what I'm about to have on? 32 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 2: Though? 33 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 4: A whole lass sweatshirt, sweater, sweater and the spirits with beans. 34 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 1: What does that means? 35 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 4: I recognize when it's thirty degrees outside them with some 36 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 4: damn clothes on, That's. 37 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 3: What that means. 38 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 1: I had clothes on. 39 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 2: It was like a quick let me run outside and 40 00:01:57,360 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 2: do something like I was putting all my Christmas lights 41 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 2: up things and a girl. I really don't know what 42 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 2: I was singing. That is crazy. 43 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 1: I lost my mind. Okay, that is crazy. Let's tell 44 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 1: the people what's what's on your agen? Yeah? I have to. 45 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:14,360 Speaker 4: I have to cut my recording short today because I 46 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 4: have I have an obligation. I have a photo shoot 47 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:21,800 Speaker 4: and some people are gonna judge me for this photo shoot. 48 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 4: But you know what, I don't care because I am 49 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 4: who I am. I'm going to take pictures with Black Santa. 50 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:32,960 Speaker 4: Now listen, Black Santa only comes to the mall twice 51 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 4: a year, right, So it ain't like I got smissing 52 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:40,080 Speaker 4: when No, like during the Christmas season. 53 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 3: He only comes twice a year. 54 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:45,799 Speaker 4: So he already came in November, and so today it's 55 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:48,680 Speaker 4: the only day that he's gonna be here for December, right. 56 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 4: And I made a promise to some children that I, 57 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:56,920 Speaker 4: because you know the service Sigma, I do what I 58 00:02:56,960 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 4: do to the kids. 59 00:02:57,760 --> 00:03:00,079 Speaker 1: Of course you're gonna bring Nick, Yeah, you're gonna bring me. 60 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:06,800 Speaker 4: The children that I would take them to take pictures 61 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:09,640 Speaker 4: with Santa. What I did not realize was that I 62 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:14,240 Speaker 4: would also be obligated to take pictures with Santa. Now 63 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 4: my husband over here talking about you better not be 64 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:18,360 Speaker 4: sitting on that man up, don't be sick. 65 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 2: That was my next question. That was my next question. 66 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:25,079 Speaker 2: My next question was are you putting all that. 67 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 3: Thing Staa's ass up? 68 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 4: Santa, stat your ass up and put your arm around 69 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 4: this hell waist and let me tell you about all 70 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 4: this money I need for this mortgage that I need 71 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 4: you to bring me for Christmas because I believe as 72 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 4: long as you post out the pictures I needs to 73 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 4: see and I ain't mad a gred because that's some ship. 74 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 4: My husband will say was, well, listen, go take all 75 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 4: the pictures you want to take, or say the long 76 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 4: as you. 77 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 1: Ain't you too, you're too big to be sitting on 78 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 1: another grown man's or not. 79 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 3: We are not that magical in this and that's not 80 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 3: how we roll it. 81 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:04,559 Speaker 1: Hours how we rolling. 82 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 3: Crazy. 83 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 2: Listen, I got to get all of this stuff like 84 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 2: taken care of because you know, Christmas. 85 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:19,160 Speaker 1: Is like my favorite holiday. I it's my thing. 86 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 2: And I can't be like down and out like this 87 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 2: because I got things to do. 88 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 1: I got things do. 89 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, I love it. 90 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 3: I love it. I'm following your lead. 91 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:34,479 Speaker 4: I actually started pulling out my Christmas stuff so that 92 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 4: I can like decorate, so I've got like fireplace and 93 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 4: stuffer it. 94 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:38,599 Speaker 1: But I haven't gotten my tree yet. 95 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 4: So that's what I've got to do over this week 96 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 4: is I've got to get my tree. I actually might 97 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 4: have guessed this year, which I'm excited about. I've not 98 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 4: stayed in my home like you don't have my Halloween parties, 99 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 4: but like hosted family, Yeah, hosted family since we've lived here. 100 00:04:56,200 --> 00:05:00,360 Speaker 3: So if family comes for Christmas, be dope. 101 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:04,239 Speaker 4: We don't know for sure, but you know, hopefully they 102 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 4: you know, might come through. 103 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 1: So I'll keep everybody's fingers crossed. Sould be fun. So 104 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 1: I had decided that first I wanted to try and 105 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 1: do this. 106 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:20,600 Speaker 2: Whole like like not necessarily an African thing Christmas, but 107 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:26,720 Speaker 2: I wanted to do like, like all like black decor 108 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:28,839 Speaker 2: for Christmas. I wanted to have like a black and 109 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 2: Goal Christmas, right. But then when I started going through 110 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 2: all of my Christmas stuff, like decorations and like, I 111 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 2: got a whole damn shit full of Christmas stuff, and 112 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:47,039 Speaker 2: knowing how the economy is right now and all the uncertainty, 113 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 2: I said, you know what, don't do it. 114 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:50,600 Speaker 1: I ain't doing it. 115 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:54,159 Speaker 2: I'm gonna just use what I got Now, I do 116 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:56,039 Speaker 2: have a black Christmas tree. I got black and Goal 117 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 2: on my Christmas tree, but I pulled out all the 118 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:01,159 Speaker 2: other decor cause is nah, I can't. 119 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:01,600 Speaker 1: I can't. 120 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 4: I've been trying to figure out every year I try 121 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 4: to do a different color theme as well. Last year 122 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 4: I did red and green. I mean obviously red and green, 123 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:10,280 Speaker 4: but like I stuck to red and green. I think 124 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:12,719 Speaker 4: a year before that I did red and gold. I 125 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 4: think this year I want to do a green and 126 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:17,919 Speaker 4: gold theme. I'm kind of feeling that foresty kind of 127 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 4: look that green and foresty. So I think I'm going 128 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 4: to do with green and gold this year for like 129 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:25,279 Speaker 4: my primary color for Christmas. 130 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 1: So that should be fun. I'm excited about that. 131 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:30,599 Speaker 4: But I was also going to say before I move on, 132 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 4: and before we move on, because we've got a great 133 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 4: show today. I celebrate Kwanza. I'm a Kwanta girl. I 134 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 4: celebrate Quanta every year. So when it comes to like 135 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:42,599 Speaker 4: black decoor and things like that, the best time I 136 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 4: think it's like maybe the week or two before because 137 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 4: you can always get all the Quantsa stuff And so yeah. 138 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a great idea. Kwansa's great. Quantsas great. 139 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:54,360 Speaker 4: We'll talk about it later later in this month, we'll 140 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 4: have a show where we. 141 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:56,920 Speaker 1: Can talk about Quanta. 142 00:06:57,000 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 3: But we however, have such a fun show today. 143 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 4: I mean, we'll talk about Quanta in another show, but 144 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 4: today's show is really going to take us outside of 145 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 4: the box because today, you know, we have always talked 146 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 4: about what we love. You talked about you love Christmas, 147 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 4: I talked about it, I love Halloween. 148 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 3: We always talked about things. 149 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 4: That we love, and even this podcast things that we love, right, 150 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:24,680 Speaker 4: But at some point sometimes shit that we love becomes 151 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 4: a chore, becomes a job, it becomes an obligation that 152 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 4: we just don't really want to fuck with no more. 153 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 3: How do we handle that? 154 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 1: Right? 155 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 4: So on today's show, we're going to talk about how 156 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 4: we handle our passion kind of turning into pressure. So 157 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 4: let's just go ahead and kick this thing into the 158 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 4: next level. Sure, how often has someone you know that 159 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 4: you've met or come across or spoke to, who have 160 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 4: just come to you and have just been like, you know, 161 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 4: oh my god, I want to do what you do. 162 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 4: I've wanted to play basketball, I wish I had this 163 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 4: career blah blah blah blah blah. And you say to yourself, man, 164 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 4: if you only knew what it took to get here, 165 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 4: you might reevaluate all those things that you think you want, 166 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 4: Like how often have you probably had to deal with 167 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 4: something like daily? 168 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 1: Seriously almost daily? 169 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 2: And you know, the crazy thing is, even if if 170 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:36,559 Speaker 2: a person, if someone doesn't come up to me and 171 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 2: say that to me, there are days when I actually 172 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 2: said to myself like, damn, how was I able to 173 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 2: play professional basketball for so many years? 174 00:08:51,800 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 1: And honestly and not lose my shit. Yeah yeah, and 175 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:05,680 Speaker 1: that's not you know, and that's not aimed at. 176 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 2: A particular person or a player, but probably just like 177 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 2: situations and fans at times, are people who aren't fans, 178 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:20,679 Speaker 2: Like yep, I was so excited about this episode because 179 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:25,320 Speaker 2: there's just so much shit that I feel like I've 180 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:28,720 Speaker 2: held on to for so long because I had to 181 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:31,960 Speaker 2: and now to, you know, just to be able to 182 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:34,679 Speaker 2: have a conversation with someone who. 183 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:39,559 Speaker 1: In different fields or careers. 184 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 2: But we probably feel so much alike on a lot 185 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:46,960 Speaker 2: of these situations that we've been in. 186 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:52,959 Speaker 4: So yeah, you almost every day did Yeah, you nailed it. 187 00:09:53,040 --> 00:10:00,439 Speaker 4: You nailed it because today we're talking about passion versus sure, 188 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 4: because I think all of us, when we get into 189 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 4: what we're doing and what we want to do, we 190 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 4: have that initial fire and that burning and that excitement 191 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 4: and that. 192 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:10,679 Speaker 3: Passion for it. 193 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 4: Right, Like, Like imagine being able to say I am 194 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:17,960 Speaker 4: a professional basketball player, like I played this game for 195 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:20,200 Speaker 4: fun and now I get to do this every day 196 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 4: as a job, Like that's crazy, Like it's so incredible. Same, right, 197 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 4: Like I used to talk about sports behind a bar. 198 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 4: I was a bartender for ten years. You know what 199 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:31,080 Speaker 4: I mean, I want make it on real money. I 200 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:33,439 Speaker 4: was just shooting shit with people who was coming to 201 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 4: order beer and wings. And to now have a platform 202 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:40,080 Speaker 4: where this is literally what I do is and to 203 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:42,439 Speaker 4: get paid for it and to get paid for it, 204 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 4: it's amazing. But I think people don't always see the sacrifice, 205 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:50,960 Speaker 4: the time, the stress, the vulnerability, the things that you 206 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 4: have to juggle before anybody claps and wants to see you, 207 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:58,959 Speaker 4: and it becomes at times a blurred line where the 208 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:03,120 Speaker 4: passion that you have starts to feel more like pressure 209 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:06,320 Speaker 4: than it is still feeling like that passion that you 210 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 4: originally ca And I think like that's something that women 211 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 4: more than anybody go through because we have to often 212 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 4: balance so many different things at so many different times. 213 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 4: You had to balance, be it a professional basketball player, 214 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 4: being a woman, being a. 215 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:26,719 Speaker 2: Mom, all a wife being a wife. Like, huh, it's 216 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 2: a lot of hats that we wear. And so you know, 217 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 2: with our podcast, when we talk about every episode pretty 218 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 2: much all the not only the shit that we go through, 219 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 2: but all the different hats we wear and all the 220 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 2: responsibilities that we have that people don't necessarily see. 221 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:47,600 Speaker 1: You know, when people come. 222 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:48,960 Speaker 2: Up to me and they're like, oh my gosh, you're 223 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:53,200 Speaker 2: so lucky that you get to play basketball for a living, 224 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 2: or you're a professional basketball player for a living. 225 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 1: And you know, I say, listen, don't get me wrong. 226 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:04,559 Speaker 2: I loved every second and minute of what I did 227 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 2: as a professional basketball player. But just because I loved 228 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 2: it doesn't mean I necessarily liked it all the time, right, 229 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 2: the pressures that came with it, the questions that came 230 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:21,560 Speaker 2: with it, And what I oftentimes say to people is, 231 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:28,839 Speaker 2: you know, as athletes, we're entertainers, right, Like people are 232 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 2: paying their money to come watch us entertain them. 233 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 1: Right. 234 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:36,080 Speaker 2: We're gonna compete, We're gonna play hard. It's fun to 235 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 2: watch all the things. But what I oftentimes say to 236 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:43,440 Speaker 2: people is what you all get and what you all 237 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:48,560 Speaker 2: see is you see the finished product, right, you see 238 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 2: what we've been doing, all the hard work on behind 239 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 2: the scenes so we can bring this to you. You 240 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 2: have no idea what my day was like, what my 241 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 2: week was like. You don't know what my Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, 242 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 2: Friday was like. 243 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:05,440 Speaker 1: For me to be able to. 244 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 2: Come out here and give you everything I got on Saturday, right, 245 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 2: I haven't even put in the fact that me being 246 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:18,960 Speaker 2: a mom, right, all the things that I have to 247 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 2: do off the court. So when they say that, I'm like, yeah, like, 248 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:25,560 Speaker 2: I was very blessed to have the type of career 249 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 2: that I had as a basketball player. 250 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:30,679 Speaker 1: But at the same time, you don't have a. 251 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 2: Clue at how hard this shit was. Yes, you be 252 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 2: able to get to get through it, so you could 253 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 2: come up to me and say that, right, yes. 254 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 4: Yes, and you hit the nail on the head when 255 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 4: you said I love it, But I didn't always like it, 256 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 4: because doing stuff that you love doesn't necessarily mean it's 257 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:55,960 Speaker 4: not training. Sometimes, like sometimes this shit is your training 258 00:13:56,640 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 4: and tiring. And you knowimilarly, people think it's really easy 259 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:05,600 Speaker 4: to get on TV and talk about sports. 260 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 1: I mean they're like, shit, I could get up there, 261 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 1: no doubt, no doubt. 262 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 3: Sure, I'm sure you think you could. Sure, I'm sure 263 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 3: you think you could. 264 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 4: Let's add in the actual timing that you have to speak. 265 00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 4: Let's add in the cadences that you need to learn. 266 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:26,960 Speaker 4: Let's add in voice inflections. Let's add in you got 267 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 4: three people speaking in your ear at the same time 268 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 4: that you're trying to provide a yes, There are some 269 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 4: folks who literally can't stand for someone else to talk 270 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 4: over you. If you can't make your point because you 271 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:42,240 Speaker 4: can't stand somebody else's talking over you. Can you imagine 272 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 4: having a producer and a director in your ear at 273 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 4: the same time that you're trying to carry on a conversation. 274 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 2: There the teleprompter hello, And let's also talk about you're 275 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:54,400 Speaker 2: supposed to be reading something on the teleprompter and the 276 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 2: teleprompter just messes up. 277 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, yep, And you got to do all this in 278 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 4: thirty seconds because you ain't because you don't have You 279 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 4: ain't got twenty minutes. You got thirty seconds to make 280 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 4: this point that everybody is supposed to agree with or 281 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 4: disagree with, depending on the point. 282 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 3: It is not as easy as it looks. 283 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:17,400 Speaker 4: And as much as we love what we do, at 284 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 4: times it becomes jerining and you ask yourself, like, am 285 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 4: I doing this because I love it still? Or am 286 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 4: I doing this now just because it feels like it's 287 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 4: a damn job? And I think like that is something 288 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 4: that we have to try to figure out how to balance, 289 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 4: no matter what your career is like, when do when 290 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 4: does what we do stop or start creating unrealistic expectations, right, 291 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:47,480 Speaker 4: because say, and you've done this, right, y'all won four championships, 292 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 4: So it then becomes unrealistic to think that you guys 293 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:52,120 Speaker 4: could ever lose. 294 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:55,800 Speaker 3: No, y'all can't ever lose a game. 295 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 4: Y'all can't ever lose because they've won four straight championships. 296 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 4: And the moment that you might have a bad game, 297 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 4: or the moment that you might lose, or the moment 298 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 4: that something doesn't goes the way that folks think it's 299 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 4: supposed to go, you've now become the enemy of the world. 300 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 1: Or you see, she wasn't as good as y'all thought 301 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:19,400 Speaker 1: she was. That part, I'm like, we just what technician? 302 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 1: How many MVY people do? I mean, yeah, but it happens, 303 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:31,480 Speaker 1: And that's when t that's when I'm like, what what 304 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 1: more do y'all want? Right? But this is what I 305 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 1: said to somebody when I retire. I never wanted to 306 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 1: be that athlete that. 307 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 2: One played way too long, meaning your your body wasn't 308 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 2: doing the things that you're used to it doing, your 309 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 2: mind what like, you just couldn't be that player anymore. 310 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 2: So I never wanted to be that athlete. But I 311 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:58,680 Speaker 2: also didn't want to be the athlete that retired and said, damn, 312 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 2: I still got two more years to come back then 313 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:07,240 Speaker 2: retire again. So for me, when I retired, I knew 314 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:10,400 Speaker 2: it was it was time, and so I never had 315 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 2: one single regret when I retired. For me, I started 316 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:18,199 Speaker 2: playing basketball when I was seven years old and I 317 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:24,480 Speaker 2: played thirteen years in the W But every year there 318 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:28,639 Speaker 2: was a challenge there for me, right, and that was 319 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:33,359 Speaker 2: my passion. But every year I was like, all right, 320 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:36,800 Speaker 2: I'm gonna be better at this, or our team's gonna 321 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 2: be better at that, or I'm gonna win this individual award, 322 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:42,639 Speaker 2: or we're gonna do this with a team. There was 323 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 2: always something that challenged me every single year. When I 324 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:49,160 Speaker 2: got towards the end of my career, after we won 325 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:53,400 Speaker 2: four championships, I won three MVPs, I won Defensive Player 326 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:55,639 Speaker 2: of the Year, Olympic gold, met all those things, I 327 00:17:55,800 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 2: was like, honestly, there is nothing left for me to 328 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 2: accomplish as an individual player in this league. Yeah, And 329 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 2: it went from being fun and basketball and my passion 330 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 2: to now, honestly, I was like, damn, oh, I won't 331 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 2: go to work today. And that's when I knew that 332 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:23,159 Speaker 2: it was time for me to step away and find 333 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 2: something else that I was passionate about that challenged me 334 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:30,920 Speaker 2: that I woke up every single day saying, all right, 335 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 2: I get to go do this, not I have to go. 336 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:34,200 Speaker 1: I have too. 337 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 3: Mm hmmm mm hmm. 338 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:40,200 Speaker 4: That's it right there. Yeah, that's when your check engine 339 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:42,919 Speaker 4: light comes on. Yeah, when your check engine kind light 340 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:46,639 Speaker 4: comes on. It's like, I'm not here mentally, I'm not 341 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 4: here emotionally. I might still be here physically, but I mean, 342 00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:53,320 Speaker 4: truth be told, what am I really doing and what 343 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 4: am I really gaining? If I really don't want to 344 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:58,480 Speaker 4: be here? Yes, right, Like that's the moment that your 345 00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:00,960 Speaker 4: passion kind of turned into pressure where you was just like. 346 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 3: I'm just doing this because this is my job at this. 347 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:05,240 Speaker 1: Point, and you know what, and I'm getting a pay check. 348 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 3: And I'm getting a check. 349 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:08,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, right, because not only was I hurting myself, I 350 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 2: was hurting my team, right, because you're not getting the 351 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:13,360 Speaker 2: best out of me anymore. 352 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:15,640 Speaker 1: And I knew it was time, and. 353 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:19,199 Speaker 2: So I was I was okay with saying this is 354 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 2: it for me, But there are so many people they 355 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:25,879 Speaker 2: want to hold on to something that's no longer there 356 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 2: or or not only not only is it no longer there, 357 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 2: You're holding on to something that you no longer want 358 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:35,640 Speaker 2: to be at. 359 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:39,720 Speaker 4: Yes, yes, And why do they do that? And that's 360 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:43,440 Speaker 4: the thing, right, it's the why it could be because 361 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:45,720 Speaker 4: I had this attitude for a long time. Sure where 362 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:47,960 Speaker 4: it was like, I'm from the east side of Detroit 363 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 4: and people where I'm from don't make it, and so 364 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:52,080 Speaker 4: I can't fuck up. 365 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 1: I can't. 366 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:57,119 Speaker 4: I can't be you know, I can't be that person 367 00:19:57,200 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 4: that you know called me crazy. But I grew up 368 00:19:59,840 --> 00:20:03,120 Speaker 4: a church girls, so it was like, I'm the minister's daughter. 369 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:06,399 Speaker 3: I can't get pregnant before marriage. 370 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 4: I can't do this, that and the third because these 371 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:12,399 Speaker 4: are the things that other people see if you I 372 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:15,439 Speaker 4: can't and like that is kind of one of the 373 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 4: things that makes people continue to do stuff that they 374 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:21,000 Speaker 4: really don't want to do anymore because they feel the 375 00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 4: pressure of I gotta make my family happy, I gotta 376 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:26,960 Speaker 4: make my community happy. I got all these people, and 377 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 4: now let's add in social media. All of these people 378 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:32,280 Speaker 4: on social media expect me to do a B and C. 379 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:35,400 Speaker 4: So now I gotta do a B and C even 380 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:36,920 Speaker 4: though I really don't want to do it anymore. 381 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:37,680 Speaker 1: Pause. 382 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:42,120 Speaker 3: No, like your passion needs to be your passion. 383 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, if that means I need to take a break, 384 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:46,800 Speaker 4: I need to stop, I need to switch gears, then 385 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:50,240 Speaker 4: do that. But here's the other thing. And I'm gonna 386 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:53,440 Speaker 4: take a quick break right after we drop this. And 387 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:58,639 Speaker 4: that's changing your passion doesn't necessarily mean changing your purpose. 388 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 1: It's not the same. 389 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:18,040 Speaker 4: And we'll talk more about that after this quick break. 390 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:21,600 Speaker 4: So I have a really good friend who is also 391 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:24,400 Speaker 4: your good friend, and her name was La China Robinson. 392 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 3: And let me tell you what I love about La China. 393 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:30,399 Speaker 4: The China has always had the purpose of being in 394 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:34,520 Speaker 4: the basketball space, and at one point in time, her 395 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:40,720 Speaker 4: passion was, you know, calling games. She was you know, hosting, 396 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:43,960 Speaker 4: she was playing basketball. She understood, maybe this isn't the 397 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 4: right path for me, but I still want to uplift 398 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:47,920 Speaker 4: women in this game. So she started working in the 399 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 4: NCAA office and then she started calling games, which she 400 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:51,800 Speaker 4: currently does. 401 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:52,760 Speaker 3: And now my. 402 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:56,200 Speaker 4: Friend and your friend, our friend has a new venture 403 00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 4: that she's started calling the Rise with the China, and 404 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:03,359 Speaker 4: it's all about uplifting women and giving them opportunities to 405 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:07,120 Speaker 4: be successful in this space. And that is her purpose, 406 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:10,040 Speaker 4: and that purpose has been the same purpose the entire time. 407 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:13,200 Speaker 4: The purpose has always been to uplift and to grow 408 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:15,160 Speaker 4: and to grow the sport and to grow to women 409 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:18,480 Speaker 4: around it. But the way that she's been doing it 410 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:20,719 Speaker 4: has been different after so many years. 411 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:23,200 Speaker 3: And I think it just she's such. 412 00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:27,280 Speaker 4: A great example of your purpose doesn't have to change 413 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 4: even if your passion does. Right And so at one 414 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:33,199 Speaker 4: point for you, your passion was on the court, and 415 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:36,639 Speaker 4: now you're still connecting with basketball and still connecting to 416 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:39,679 Speaker 4: this league. That doesn't necessarily have to take place on 417 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:43,360 Speaker 4: the court, And like that is so important for people 418 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 4: to understand, like it's okay to pivot. You don't have 419 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:49,440 Speaker 4: to you don't have to change what your goal and 420 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:53,159 Speaker 4: your purpose is just to necessarily appease the pressure in 421 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:54,639 Speaker 4: the people from the outside world. 422 00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:56,960 Speaker 1: God, you dropped so many gems there. 423 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:01,199 Speaker 2: Let me go back and say something about let's I 424 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:05,960 Speaker 2: just remember watching well the Robin Roberts and all of them, 425 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 2: But there was something about me watching the China Robinson 426 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:12,280 Speaker 2: cover games on ESPN. 427 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:16,720 Speaker 1: That I was like, huh, I could never do what 428 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:17,240 Speaker 1: she does. 429 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:22,640 Speaker 2: Like I really felt that and believed that don't ask 430 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:25,840 Speaker 2: me why I felt that way, But just watching her, 431 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:27,920 Speaker 2: there was something about her. 432 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 1: I was like, damn, she's so good. She's so good. 433 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 2: But what I really loved about when I watched her, 434 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 2: I could not only hear her passion and what she 435 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:42,520 Speaker 2: was doing, but I felt it. And so when you 436 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:47,160 Speaker 2: talk about what her purpose always was covering the game, 437 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:52,119 Speaker 2: covering the games and has always been about uplifting women, 438 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:55,879 Speaker 2: empowering women, women in this space, in the media space, 439 00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:58,440 Speaker 2: she shows that in everything. 440 00:23:58,040 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 3: That she does everything. 441 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 2: I am very confident in who I am as a 442 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:06,119 Speaker 2: person and as a black woman and in the space 443 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 2: that I walk in. But when I got my first 444 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:12,720 Speaker 2: opportunity to work with La. 445 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 1: China on it was the halftime show. 446 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 3: She was doing a WBA countdown. 447 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:19,040 Speaker 1: Yeah girl. 448 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:22,160 Speaker 2: When I tell you, I was like, Hella nervous. One 449 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:25,240 Speaker 2: because it was Latina Robinson and I was like, I 450 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 2: gotta be on my shit, I gotta be great. And 451 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:31,920 Speaker 2: two because it was a different space for me, Like 452 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 2: I could talk basketball with the best of them every 453 00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:37,640 Speaker 2: every day, all day. But going back to something you 454 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:42,800 Speaker 2: said earlier, not everybody can be on television and talk 455 00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:47,080 Speaker 2: about basketball, right, you got a certain window amount of 456 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 2: time that you got to get shit covered in like 457 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:54,359 Speaker 2: that's stressful. Latina Robinson said to me, she said, just 458 00:24:54,400 --> 00:25:00,679 Speaker 2: be you, that's it, and I got you. And just 459 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:04,119 Speaker 2: hearing those words from her at that point, I was like, 460 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:06,720 Speaker 2: I can do this, and I can and I'm very 461 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:07,880 Speaker 2: confident in being able. 462 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:08,120 Speaker 1: To do it. 463 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:15,600 Speaker 2: I say all of that to say this, all of 464 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 2: us are on our own path and our own journey, 465 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:22,960 Speaker 2: and that journey is gonna take you where you're supposed 466 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:24,160 Speaker 2: to be because what's for you. 467 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:24,600 Speaker 1: Is for you. 468 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:29,920 Speaker 2: But it's always nice to have somebody along that path 469 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:33,200 Speaker 2: or journey that will hold your hand or grab your 470 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:36,919 Speaker 2: hand or lift you up and say, cis I got you. 471 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:39,959 Speaker 2: My gosh, I'm not gonna let you fall. I'm not 472 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 2: gonna let you fail. And that's exactly what La China 473 00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:46,359 Speaker 2: did for me. That's what she continues to do. And 474 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:48,720 Speaker 2: I'm gonna say the same thing to you te that 475 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:49,680 Speaker 2: that's who you are. 476 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:51,320 Speaker 4: No. 477 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:54,800 Speaker 1: One hundred, Like, I'm gonna. 478 00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 2: Say this because we're having a real conversation even during 479 00:25:57,000 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 2: the podcast, like doing this podcas, I was like, oh no, 480 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:05,119 Speaker 2: me and T will be great. We're gonna be great. 481 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 2: And because I know who you are like as a 482 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:12,240 Speaker 2: person and your passion and what you're great at. That's 483 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:15,520 Speaker 2: that's why I feel like this podcast like you and 484 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:18,920 Speaker 2: I where we're so much alike, so much a like, 485 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 2: but we're different in some aspects, but we're so much 486 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:28,359 Speaker 2: alike that like this this had no option but to work. 487 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:28,880 Speaker 1: You know what I mean? 488 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:30,520 Speaker 3: I don't. 489 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:34,320 Speaker 2: But the last thing I want to say on this 490 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 2: topic though, is when you said, why do people oftentimes 491 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:44,200 Speaker 2: stay right when when when they know it's time to move, 492 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:47,600 Speaker 2: but maybe they're not ready. A lot of it is fear, 493 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:52,119 Speaker 2: like fear of the unknown. I was there for so long, 494 00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:57,479 Speaker 2: Like when I retired, it was like damn, like what's next. 495 00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:01,240 Speaker 1: Because for so many years basketball was. 496 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:04,720 Speaker 3: My passion, Like this is like I have to have. 497 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 1: This in my life. 498 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:09,760 Speaker 2: And so when you know that your day to day 499 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:11,800 Speaker 2: is going to change and it's not going to be 500 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:12,160 Speaker 2: what it. 501 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:15,440 Speaker 1: Used to be, like that shits scary. Yeah. 502 00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:19,320 Speaker 2: So it's that fear of the unknown of what's next 503 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:21,639 Speaker 2: for me. But the only thing I will say to 504 00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:24,199 Speaker 2: anybody who may be out there listening and they're like 505 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 2: I don't know, like. 506 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:30,080 Speaker 1: This or bro, you gotta do it. You have to 507 00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:30,440 Speaker 1: do it. 508 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:33,920 Speaker 2: Be confident in who you are, and again make sure 509 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:38,520 Speaker 2: you have the right people behind you that are not 510 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 2: going to let you fail. 511 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:42,959 Speaker 3: That is so important. 512 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:47,600 Speaker 4: Your network and your community has to be the kind 513 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:50,159 Speaker 4: of community to support you. And the other thing I 514 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:52,720 Speaker 4: want to add on to that before we end, this 515 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:54,919 Speaker 4: is a couple of things. 516 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:58,480 Speaker 3: One, taking a break and being burnt out. 517 00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:00,280 Speaker 1: Is not failure. Oh no, not at all. 518 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:04,560 Speaker 4: Like it's not like some people honestly, because even I 519 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:07,400 Speaker 4: have had this and like we had a recent episode 520 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:09,680 Speaker 4: with my girl Sharanna, she's a sore of ours who's 521 00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 4: a therapist who gave us a whole rundown on boundaries. 522 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:17,960 Speaker 4: And boundaries are so important because if you don't set them, 523 00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:21,280 Speaker 4: you will get burnt out. And burnt out means you 524 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 4: need to take a break. But it is not a 525 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:27,159 Speaker 4: failure to take a break, like if you need like 526 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:29,760 Speaker 4: they whatever. This thing is that people got out here 527 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:32,679 Speaker 4: about black women in rest that when women in general 528 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:35,040 Speaker 4: and rest like, we can't never stop. We have to 529 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:37,320 Speaker 4: always continually be going and going and going and going 530 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:39,960 Speaker 4: and going. No, that's why I take a break last 531 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:41,480 Speaker 4: week and went on a good. 532 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:42,840 Speaker 3: Old Fiday vacation and. 533 00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 4: Going anyway, listen, listen here, and you know why because 534 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:54,080 Speaker 4: after that w NBA season we just had. It's true 535 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:57,240 Speaker 4: out of here. I'm out of here. Don't ask me 536 00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:00,280 Speaker 4: for nothing. Fact I will never tell somebody no, I 537 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:02,680 Speaker 4: won't come on they show. But baby, how let me 538 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:07,040 Speaker 4: December first because at this point, between now and all 539 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:12,280 Speaker 4: of November, I have nothing for you. I'm not doing important. 540 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:14,320 Speaker 1: Nothing is important. 541 00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:16,160 Speaker 4: I have to I do not want to get burnt 542 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:17,800 Speaker 4: out because this is my passion. 543 00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:19,840 Speaker 3: I don't want to hate doing this. 544 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:22,400 Speaker 4: And if I keep doing it, doing it even when 545 00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:24,600 Speaker 4: I don't feel like it, I'm gonna start to hate 546 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:25,080 Speaker 4: doing this. 547 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:28,320 Speaker 1: So I need a break. We have to take a break. 548 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:30,880 Speaker 4: And the last thing that I will also say for 549 00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:35,280 Speaker 4: people is that you can reconnect with whatever your passion is. 550 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:39,680 Speaker 4: Sometimes folks just need to step away and try something 551 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:41,680 Speaker 4: different and come back. I'm gonna give my husband as 552 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:44,920 Speaker 4: an example. My husband's a chef, but it was getting 553 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,840 Speaker 4: overwhelming in the restaurant for a little while and he 554 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:50,000 Speaker 4: was like, I can't do this, Like I need to 555 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:52,160 Speaker 4: just back up, maybe try something else. 556 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:52,720 Speaker 1: Now. 557 00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:54,160 Speaker 4: I ain't gonna tell you this food. Went to go 558 00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:57,040 Speaker 4: drive trucks for FedEx. I don't know why you thought 559 00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:58,200 Speaker 4: that that was the other. 560 00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:00,360 Speaker 3: Thing that you wanted to too. 561 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:03,440 Speaker 1: But the man was like, you know, very different, that's 562 00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:05,000 Speaker 1: very chef. 563 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:08,200 Speaker 4: Not it was not in the kitchen, he was not 564 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:13,960 Speaker 4: doing whatever, lo and behole. He got an opportunity, which 565 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:17,479 Speaker 4: is where he is now at MGM. And and it 566 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 4: was coming back where it was a better opportunity, where 567 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:23,760 Speaker 4: it was the realization where it was like, it's not 568 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:26,000 Speaker 4: that I did not want to cook anymore. It wasn't 569 00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 4: that I fell out of love with the culinary industry. 570 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:31,720 Speaker 4: It was that I had given so much with so 571 00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:34,400 Speaker 4: little return that I felt like I just needed to 572 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:37,840 Speaker 4: step away, do something else, find something else, find a hobby, 573 00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:41,520 Speaker 4: do something, and then come back. And So if people 574 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:44,080 Speaker 4: need to reconnect with whatever that passion is, and that 575 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:48,120 Speaker 4: means stepping away, trying something different, doing something else, do that. 576 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:50,960 Speaker 4: But you don't have to lose your purpose. Like that's 577 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:56,600 Speaker 4: the entire point. So fans, listeners, friends, good, just you know, 578 00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 4: think about that, write it down, honor it, but. 579 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:02,280 Speaker 3: Don't for you. 580 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:06,400 Speaker 1: Do it for you. It ain't about what anybody else 581 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:08,040 Speaker 1: thinks you should or shouldn't be doing. 582 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:10,560 Speaker 3: Yep, do it for you. That's it. 583 00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:15,080 Speaker 4: And when we come back, friends, we will go ahead 584 00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:26,160 Speaker 4: and level this thing on off. 585 00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:31,680 Speaker 1: Yeah. Sure, it's gonna be. 586 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:34,480 Speaker 4: So much to unpack, to be honest, because you know, 587 00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:36,680 Speaker 4: we about to be going into twenty twenty six and 588 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:39,080 Speaker 4: this is kind of the year where this is a 589 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:41,200 Speaker 4: time of year where people are thinking about wanting to 590 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:44,160 Speaker 4: do new things, wanting to explore. 591 00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:45,240 Speaker 1: New things to start the year right. 592 00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:47,320 Speaker 4: And so I'm just really glad that we had this 593 00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:50,560 Speaker 4: conversation even before we started thinking about goals and stuff 594 00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:52,600 Speaker 4: that we want to do for next year, because I 595 00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:54,680 Speaker 4: promise you, the moment that shit start to get on 596 00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:56,120 Speaker 4: my nerves and might be like, let me go ahead 597 00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:57,160 Speaker 4: and take a break. 598 00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:01,480 Speaker 2: And then let me come, that's just human nature, right, 599 00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:04,960 Speaker 2: That's just who we are. And this conversation even reminded 600 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:07,880 Speaker 2: me of our kind of sort of like our Boundaries conversation, 601 00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:11,200 Speaker 2: because I do feel like in a way they're very similar. 602 00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:17,360 Speaker 1: And I just think we have to remind ourselves a lot. 603 00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:24,480 Speaker 2: That just because we're passionate about something, it doesn't necessarily 604 00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:28,920 Speaker 2: mean we have to burn ourselves out from that thing 605 00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:32,160 Speaker 2: that we're passionate about. But I just think it's such 606 00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:35,840 Speaker 2: a needed conversation. And I hope we help somebody today. 607 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:37,880 Speaker 1: I love that. 608 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:38,719 Speaker 3: I love that. 609 00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:43,240 Speaker 4: And so speaking of helping someone, you always find a 610 00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:46,440 Speaker 4: way to help someone with your positive affirmation. 611 00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:49,520 Speaker 3: So what can you level us up with today? 612 00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:53,240 Speaker 2: Y'all can't see my church fingers, but I got my 613 00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:57,880 Speaker 2: church fingers going because I'm not selfish all gatekeep you know, 614 00:32:57,920 --> 00:32:58,959 Speaker 2: and do none of that stuff. 615 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:01,520 Speaker 1: And usually i'm when i'm when i'm looking. 616 00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:06,200 Speaker 2: For positive quotes or motivational stuff, I always think about 617 00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:10,440 Speaker 2: the people our listeners. This is for our listeners too, 618 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:13,600 Speaker 2: but I gotta be honest with you. This is for me, 619 00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:20,760 Speaker 2: okay for me. In it says you can forgive someone 620 00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:27,280 Speaker 2: and still close the door. Apology accepted, access denied. 621 00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:35,840 Speaker 1: Oh hit that one more time. That just hit me, 622 00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:40,680 Speaker 1: because girls, you can forgive someone and. 623 00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:46,360 Speaker 2: Still close the door. Apology accepted, access. 624 00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:51,640 Speaker 4: Denied that whole part, that whole part, that whole part 625 00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:54,880 Speaker 4: like we ain't got no beef, says wish you the best, 626 00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:58,640 Speaker 4: but I ain't really nothing else. I ain't got nothing 627 00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:01,840 Speaker 4: else for you. I got none else. 628 00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:04,720 Speaker 1: For see bro, I hear you. 629 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:11,800 Speaker 2: I've shape apology, but uh yeah, forgiving them more access 630 00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:14,480 Speaker 2: I'm gonna go this way, You're gonna go that way. 631 00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:20,319 Speaker 4: That's crazy, but it's such a good quote because it 632 00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:25,400 Speaker 4: can be really explored so much deeper. I mean, my god, 633 00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:29,680 Speaker 4: we just anyway, y'all. Thank y'all for kicking it with us. Honestly, 634 00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:32,840 Speaker 4: we love we love y'all, and we really love the 635 00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:35,840 Speaker 4: way that y'all support us, and we are continuing to 636 00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:38,880 Speaker 4: do our best to support you back. So you guys 637 00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:42,200 Speaker 4: have a few more days to get into our Levels 638 00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:44,000 Speaker 4: to this podcast giveaway. 639 00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:45,240 Speaker 3: Listen. 640 00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:50,799 Speaker 4: We have received some incredible emails, some great info from 641 00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:53,440 Speaker 4: folks that are really trying to win this thousand dollars, 642 00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:55,960 Speaker 4: so continue to send you have. 643 00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:58,640 Speaker 2: Unto December the eighth. 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