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Speaker 1: Yes, sir, what's up? On his Wednesday edition of Texans

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Speaker 1: All Access. So glad to be with you. I am

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Speaker 1: your host, John Harris Football, you know, the sideline reporter.

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Speaker 1: No Mark tonight, but there will be a Drew Doherty sighting,

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Speaker 1: actually not once, but twice, as he's gonna join me

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Speaker 1: in just a little bit from the lab and then,

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Speaker 1: oh man, I'm excited about this one. Where are they now?

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Speaker 1: One of my favorite players we've had come through this building.

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Speaker 1: We had a lot, but one guy always had a smile.

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Speaker 1: I always had a joke. He needle you a little bit,

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Speaker 1: but he always had your back. Brian Peters was the

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Speaker 1: first one linebacker, but really more of a special team's ace.

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Speaker 1: He was a captain his final year here with the Texans,

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Speaker 1: which was twenty eighteen, but he spent five or four

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Speaker 1: seasons with Houston twenty fifteen through twenty eighteen, so he

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Speaker 1: was part of three division title winners. He saw seventeen

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Speaker 1: you know the rise and fall that year. So he

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Speaker 1: was a good, good guy to talk with. Still an

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Speaker 1: interesting stuff now, John, I know how much of that

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Speaker 1: you got to listen to. But late in his Texans

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Speaker 1: career got into breathing the importance of breath cold tubs.

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Speaker 1: He would hold his breath underwater and stuff, and you

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Speaker 1: see it on on Instagram. You're like, what's this whacko doing.

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Speaker 1: But there's a science, there's a method, there's a psychology

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Speaker 1: to it. And he talked at linked about it on

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Speaker 1: our during our conversation yesterday. It's fascinating. He's helping out

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Speaker 1: some pro sports teams, some college sports teams, military special

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Speaker 1: ops types, so it's really really cool. He's doing good stuff.

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Speaker 1: And in about a month or two, he's gonna do this.

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Speaker 1: It's called a ruck and it's where you have a

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Speaker 1: fifty pound backpack. Oh yes, I've heard of this. It's

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Speaker 1: gonna hike fifty miles around our nation's capital. It's all

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Speaker 1: part of it's like helping out a Wounded Veterans foundation

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Speaker 1: and it's just great stuff. But it was good. It

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Speaker 1: was good to connect with him. I had fun talk

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Speaker 1: with Peters yesterday. I can imagine that dude was one

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Speaker 1: of the more interesting guys. I remember watching him at

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Speaker 1: Northwestern and it was probably in the early twenty tens,

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Speaker 1: and I'm watching him at Nebraska and dude's playing with

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Speaker 1: this guy? And it's funny. I'm writing a defensive line article,

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Speaker 1: a defensive line breakdown because things have changed significantly, as

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Speaker 1: we've noted many times on this podcast. And one of

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Speaker 1: the things that stood out with one of the guys,

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Speaker 1: Kurt Hyness, is a defensive lineman from Notre Dame. He

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Speaker 1: always stood out to me because he wore the number

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Speaker 1: forty one. An interior defensive lineman wearing a skill position

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Speaker 1: number always catches my eye. Well, Brian Peters wore the

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Speaker 1: number ten at Northwestern and it always caught my eye.

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Speaker 1: It always like my eye always gravitated towards number ten

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Speaker 1: because it's not a number you normally see in college.

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Speaker 1: Any number is fair game, but just to see a

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Speaker 1: number ten on a linebacker always catches my eye. Henry

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Speaker 1: Toto from Alabama is the same way you all aways

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Speaker 1: catches my eye. He plays next. He played next to

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Speaker 1: Christian Harris last year, but at number ten as a linebacker,

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Speaker 1: always come eye. Brian Peters is always that guy. But

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Speaker 1: I remember playing with two casts and he end up

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Speaker 1: what an athlete that guy was, and what a story

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Speaker 1: he was all the different football leagues he played in

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Speaker 1: have been here for a decade. Man, that guy was

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Speaker 1: really fun to be around. He was a great interview.

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Speaker 1: He was always fun. He was really a team leader,

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Speaker 1: especially on the special team's part of it. He was

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Speaker 1: And he was always self deprecating, which I can always love.

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Speaker 1: He's always you know you're talking about you know if

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Speaker 1: hear that full interview. Drew. Yeah, you know when you

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Speaker 1: I was like, well, I need to find a Brian

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Speaker 1: another thing he did. This guy was at every community event,

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Speaker 1: I remember when we got we got out of that thing.

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Speaker 1: a guy, Tim Jamison. Oh yeah, is the cool I

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Speaker 1: He got pulled up right before Week five when the

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Speaker 1: good story. Well he'd be, he'd be a really solid

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Speaker 1: And I always always liked Jamison just the guy, but

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Speaker 1: like Jamison made those plays for sure. And I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: He and Jamison have a pretty cool connection that you

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Speaker 1: and it's been covered every way to Sunday. We saw

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Speaker 1: He said, hey, you play three games in the preseason,

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Speaker 1: He's like, we'll take it. We'll always take a break

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Speaker 1: Who hum about it, you know, just you gotta do

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Speaker 1: then we went into that buy in twenty seventeen, and

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Speaker 1: we really didn't want to go into that buy because

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Speaker 1: at that point we were watching a rookie quarterback just

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't want to have it if you said, hey,

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Speaker 1: it's a it's drudgery, like oh, and I don't think

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Speaker 1: we're having that late. But I remember watching Hard Knocks

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Speaker 1: Hard Knocks how beat up that team was. Now, that

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Speaker 1: doesn't excuse them from not winning one of two games

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Speaker 1: Colts had about a dozen players not playing in that

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Speaker 1: game due to COVID and Wentz makes that throw near

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Speaker 1: they just cratered. But they had to buy late. I

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Speaker 1: ever walked down the hallway without him saying something snarky,

428
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Speaker 1: a little you know, kind of needle yet a little bit,

429
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Speaker 1: but you could always give it back to him. He

430
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Speaker 1: always had a smile. He was a tremendous teammate, professional.

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Speaker 1: It's a fun discussion with Drew Doherty. Drew take it away.

432
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Speaker 1: There are many Houston Texans, but there aren't many like

433
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Speaker 1: this guy. Brian Peters one of my favorite all time

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Speaker 1: players for my favorite football team of yours. So Brian

435
00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:32,000
Speaker 1: played linebacker here for about four or five years. And

436
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Speaker 1: first things first, what are you doing? Now? Where are you?

437
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Speaker 1: What's up? I'm in the exotic beaches of Columbus, Ohio.

438
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Speaker 1: But I'm doing a little bit of everything. I'm lefting,

439
00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:45,960
Speaker 1: living and learning. But I'm a performance consultant now. I

440
00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:48,520
Speaker 1: consult on breathwork and mental skills, a little bit of

441
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Speaker 1: heat and cold exposure for pro athletes, college athletes, and

442
00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:54,920
Speaker 1: one on one kind of thing just by a select basis.

443
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Speaker 1: But it's been super fun to dive into that and learn.

444
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Speaker 1: Like I was obviously into that this kind of thing

445
00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:01,960
Speaker 1: when I was playing, and then I was able to

446
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Speaker 1: translate it into the business world. And then everything keeps

447
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Speaker 1: me active, learning and lifting. I competed in my first

448
00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:10,879
Speaker 1: powerlifting meat two weeks ago, do some jiu jitsu, I

449
00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:14,320
Speaker 1: stay competitive where I can fit it in, and then yeah,

450
00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:16,960
Speaker 1: then outside of that, I just I do a little

451
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Speaker 1: bit of everything to stay busy. I love it. There's

452
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Speaker 1: there's a lot to cover right there. But how the event, God,

453
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Speaker 1: the competition that you just took part in, go for

454
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Speaker 1: you good. The powerlifting is fine. I fell into like

455
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Speaker 1: transitioning from football, I needed some structure and I fell

456
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Speaker 1: into this powerlifting group here in Columbus out at Old

457
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Speaker 1: School Gym where we train at four in the morning.

458
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Speaker 1: So that structure was medicine for me. Was able to

459
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Speaker 1: get me competitive, competing with myself under heavyweight all the time,

460
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Speaker 1: and then it translated. I ended up a deadlifted six

461
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Speaker 1: h six, squatted five sixty two, and my bench I

462
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Speaker 1: got red lighted a couple of times, but it was wait, wait, wait,

463
00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:58,320
Speaker 1: what is red lighting meat? What's that all about? So,

464
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Speaker 1: like the basis, the basis of powerlifting, like the competitions,

465
00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:04,560
Speaker 1: it's all formed base Obviously, it's like depth. I'm a

466
00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:07,080
Speaker 1: listening to intention, so you like got to like stabilize

467
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Speaker 1: to wait before you can squat, and the same thing

468
00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:12,359
Speaker 1: when you complete the squat bench you gotta stabilize it.

469
00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:15,040
Speaker 1: And then it's the bench press and power lifting you

470
00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:17,840
Speaker 1: basically have to pause for an extent. It's almost two seconds,

471
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Speaker 1: so you have to be able to control in the weight.

472
00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:23,040
Speaker 1: But so I actually got red lighted because he like

473
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Speaker 1: I was wearing wrist wraps and I there's like a

474
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Speaker 1: stretchy elastic thing where you use it. You can't use it.

475
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Speaker 1: But most of the guys I trained with do it

476
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Speaker 1: during training, so I didn't know any better. So it's

477
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Speaker 1: a learning experience. But I wrapped my thumb and didn't

478
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Speaker 1: give me any competitive advantage. But they red lighted me

479
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Speaker 1: on my best lift of the day, so my bench

480
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Speaker 1: what was like under par for what I wanted. But well,

481
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Speaker 1: why didn't they just say before you were getting on there,

482
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Speaker 1: like hey, you can't use that? Like what how did that?

483
00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:48,880
Speaker 1: How that come up? It was just it was one

484
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Speaker 1: pretty tedious judge. The other judges are like, I would

485
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Speaker 1: have never I would have gave you a warning, done something,

486
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Speaker 1: but this guy red lighted me. Some people like are

487
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Speaker 1: the powerlifting group kind of has a little reputation too,

488
00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:02,480
Speaker 1: so they look for any excuse to come after the boys.

489
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Speaker 1: Four am. Why four am? It's more of a separator

490
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Speaker 1: for his group of people's names Corey Gregory who owns

491
00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:13,720
Speaker 1: and runs the gym. See who's committed basically yeah, basically

492
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Speaker 1: like if you're committed, like you're not gonna be out

493
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Speaker 1: boozing or staying up late doing things like it's they

494
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Speaker 1: used to do it at like seven am, six am,

495
00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:25,399
Speaker 1: five am, and then like once four am struck like

496
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Speaker 1: only the dog showed up and it turned into a

497
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Speaker 1: really cool, uh, really cool thing they had, Like they're

498
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Speaker 1: a bunch of the smaller powerlifters. They hit like the

499
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Speaker 1: um I can't. It's like one sixty one to one

500
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Speaker 1: ninety eight weight classes and they have a couple of

501
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Speaker 1: world records in the group and the RPS training method

502
00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:44,960
Speaker 1: and then uh yeah, it's it's it's a really competitive group.

503
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Speaker 1: Like pound for pound, these boys are strong. Now I've

504
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Speaker 1: seen powerlifters and there's there's some absolute monsters. You're a

505
00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:54,040
Speaker 1: you're a big guy. I think somebody who are describing, Hey,

506
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Speaker 1: he's a big guy. But are you one of the

507
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Speaker 1: bigger ones? Where you one of the smaller Where do you?

508
00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:00,800
Speaker 1: Where are you falling that that structure of that group.

509
00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:03,840
Speaker 1: I'm still pretty pretty much of my playing weight around

510
00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:07,080
Speaker 1: two thirty five, but like I'm a I'm definitely like

511
00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:10,159
Speaker 1: a longer lever guy, not really built for power lifting. Obviously,

512
00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:12,800
Speaker 1: you've you've seen some of like the big bellies, big bodies,

513
00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:16,520
Speaker 1: big necks that fall on powerlifting. Um, excuse me, but

514
00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:19,720
Speaker 1: uh yeah, Like I'm still like one of the heavier

515
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Speaker 1: weight class guys with us. I'm between like the two

516
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Speaker 1: twenty two forty two weight classes kind of deal. Um.

517
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Speaker 1: But yeah, it's just uh, it's more like I could

518
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Speaker 1: I could care less about um my look in the

519
00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:35,239
Speaker 1: powerlifting world because like when when it comes down to it,

520
00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:37,640
Speaker 1: like when you get under a heavy bar or any

521
00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:39,399
Speaker 1: like risk you want to take in your life, Like

522
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Speaker 1: it's like you have that self talk where it's like

523
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna get buried, I'm gonna grow. It's like a

524
00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:47,879
Speaker 1: coin flip of like success and failure. And that motivated

525
00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:49,879
Speaker 1: me massively and like just getting a dose of that

526
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:54,479
Speaker 1: every morning, um was literally a medicinal for me. Reminded

527
00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:57,040
Speaker 1: me of football. It's like doing one on ones and

528
00:25:57,119 --> 00:25:59,600
Speaker 1: things like that, like like are you up to the stuff?

529
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Speaker 1: Like are you up to the opportunity? Are you up

530
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Speaker 1: to the challenge? And uh yeah, then I just kept

531
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Speaker 1: doing it. I've been doing it with them a little

532
00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:09,680
Speaker 1: over a year, a year and a half. Now I'm

533
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:12,320
Speaker 1: gonna get into a bunch of crazier stuff here coming up,

534
00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:16,360
Speaker 1: not powerlifting. Um, so I'll phase a little away from that. Yeah.

535
00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:18,480
Speaker 1: Well so I'm doing I'm doing a fifty I'm doing

536
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Speaker 1: a fifty mile ruckum on Memorial Day ruck where you

537
00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:26,480
Speaker 1: have the backpack like a like a soldier basically, yeah, yeah, yeah.

538
00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:29,040
Speaker 1: And then so we're doing fifty miles around washing DC.

539
00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:32,000
Speaker 1: We're starting at the Veterans Hospital and then ending in

540
00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:35,840
Speaker 1: Arancing that national cemetery supporting the group. The fifty for

541
00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:38,560
Speaker 1: the Fallen is the charity, but it's put on by

542
00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:42,639
Speaker 1: the Special Forces Trust. So, um, some of my coaching

543
00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:45,920
Speaker 1: has stemmed into that world. And the optimal performance and

544
00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:49,359
Speaker 1: controlling your state is military and they do it at

545
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:52,199
Speaker 1: a much higher stake than athletes do. So I've been

546
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:55,680
Speaker 1: gravitating towards them and their stories and um, their recovery

547
00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:58,280
Speaker 1: from serving and things like that. So it's been, uh,

548
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Speaker 1: just kind of where my life's going on. That's awesome, man,

549
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:04,679
Speaker 1: you know. And when you were with the Texans, you

550
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:07,879
Speaker 1: were kind of starting to get into the cold tub

551
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:10,119
Speaker 1: plunging and I don't that's probably the wrong word for it,

552
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:12,840
Speaker 1: but that's that stuff you're you you mentioned your breathing

553
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:17,560
Speaker 1: mechanics and all that. That's incredibly important, especially for snipers.

554
00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:20,720
Speaker 1: You brought up special special Forces and whatnot. But you're

555
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:23,520
Speaker 1: you're applying that to everyone, you know, because I don't

556
00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:28,240
Speaker 1: think the general public understands and appreciates the importance of

557
00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:32,320
Speaker 1: proper breathing and breathing exercises, right, No, not even close,

558
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:34,040
Speaker 1: And it's just something that's it's kind of just like

559
00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:37,240
Speaker 1: a missing pillar and human performance not even like athletic

560
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:41,119
Speaker 1: performance rum a lot of Like so my doctor sends

561
00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:44,280
Speaker 1: me some cases that like people can't solve with medicine

562
00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:47,480
Speaker 1: or things like that, and breathing ends up helping everybody.

563
00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:50,800
Speaker 1: It's all just like the base root of human existence,

564
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:53,200
Speaker 1: and you can prioritize it how you want. But like

565
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:56,960
Speaker 1: every other resource our our body needs, water, food, other

566
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Speaker 1: things that you can survive days without water, weeks without food,

567
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:03,560
Speaker 1: all those kind of things, but like three minutes without oxygen,

568
00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:06,879
Speaker 1: like it's important. And then like every breath helps or

569
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,159
Speaker 1: hurts you, what body part are you breathing in and

570
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:13,280
Speaker 1: out of? Is the action getting absorbed? Are you overbreathing?

571
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:16,080
Speaker 1: So if you're overbreathing, your veins and arteries are getting smaller,

572
00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:19,640
Speaker 1: so you're getting worse auction nation like all these compounding things.

573
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:22,520
Speaker 1: Are you sleep sleeping with your mouth open, so does

574
00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:24,480
Speaker 1: your tongue fall back? And then are you in a

575
00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:26,840
Speaker 1: sympathetic state when you're sleeping so you wake up to

576
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:29,400
Speaker 1: use the bathroom or wake up with the dry mouth

577
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:31,800
Speaker 1: and all these things. They deteriorate your sleep. And if

578
00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:34,800
Speaker 1: you can't sleep right, you're not going to perform right mentally, physically,

579
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Speaker 1: anything emotionally. Like, so my whole thing is getting people

580
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:42,680
Speaker 1: out of that sympathetic state, that anxious state that we

581
00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:45,960
Speaker 1: live in because we're overstimulated or stressed out or anxious

582
00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:49,400
Speaker 1: or anything like that. And just kind of how the

583
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:53,680
Speaker 1: whole mind breathing evolved into everybody gem pop and it

584
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,200
Speaker 1: like what we teach and what I coach and things

585
00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:58,960
Speaker 1: like that are just like base, very simple things that

586
00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:02,520
Speaker 1: have simple compound effect, Like yeah, we can improve FEO

587
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:05,920
Speaker 1: two max and push off the delay set of lactic

588
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 1: acid and things like that for athletes and help them

589
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:11,360
Speaker 1: recover in between plays or shifts on the ice or

590
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:14,760
Speaker 1: anything like that. But like every human should adopt breathwork

591
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 1: or at least an awareness of their understanding because now,

592
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 1: like you can feel when you're out of control, and

593
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:22,560
Speaker 1: when like your physiology is out of control, your mind regresses,

594
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:25,600
Speaker 1: you actually lose blood in the brief prefrontal cortex. It's

595
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 1: like I want to maintain my wits and my problem

596
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:31,200
Speaker 1: solving my communication skills as much as possible, but I

597
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:34,240
Speaker 1: really just want control, So like if I can, any

598
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 1: human wants control. We have a negativity bias in our psychology,

599
00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:40,480
Speaker 1: so like what can I do? And like the simplest thing,

600
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:43,040
Speaker 1: the lowest hanging fruit is the breathwork stuff. And it's

601
00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:46,200
Speaker 1: simply you can calm yourself down and rush our traffic

602
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:49,120
Speaker 1: or before you public speak or anything. It's just it's

603
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:52,200
Speaker 1: simple and significant. When did you start taking an interest

604
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:54,480
Speaker 1: in that? Because I know it for sure it was

605
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:56,760
Speaker 1: when you were with the Texans, But how long before

606
00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:59,600
Speaker 1: that did this does all get going for you? Now,

607
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:01,680
Speaker 1: it was around twenty fifteen when it like it was

608
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:05,640
Speaker 1: over my eyes. I solved my sleep problems by taping

609
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:08,040
Speaker 1: my mouth in twenty sixteen when I was with the Texans,

610
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:10,479
Speaker 1: like we had we had the whoops and we had

611
00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:12,560
Speaker 1: the garden. They gave us the garments, I think in sixteen,

612
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:15,280
Speaker 1: and I was trying to be a pro in sleep

613
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Speaker 1: nine hours and it was saying I got five hours

614
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Speaker 1: of sleep six hours of sleep. So I was getting frustrated,

615
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:23,320
Speaker 1: where like some of the wearables can cause stress because

616
00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:26,040
Speaker 1: you you do have a metric. But um, so I

617
00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:28,320
Speaker 1: started taking my mouth shut, and that like my sleep

618
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:30,760
Speaker 1: problems on the way, and the research behind that now

619
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Speaker 1: is dynamite like people that can adopt nasal breathing, which

620
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Speaker 1: is the forest mouth close, but mouth closed gives the

621
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Speaker 1: tongue and those kind of things. But seventy percent of

622
00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:41,960
Speaker 1: sleep bapnee and wake ups go down if you can

623
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Speaker 1: learn to tape your mouth, like simple things you just

624
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Speaker 1: ta with like regular tape or what do you do? Yeah,

625
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:49,440
Speaker 1: I mean like you'd be surprised. So if you like

626
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:53,000
Speaker 1: Amazon mouth tape for sleep, it'll blow your mind how

627
00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:55,280
Speaker 1: many products there are. But I use basic three M

628
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Speaker 1: tape and just go across my list. But some people

629
00:30:57,320 --> 00:31:00,560
Speaker 1: think that's too rough, but uh yeah, But things like that.

630
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:02,720
Speaker 1: And then and then I started holding my breath in

631
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:06,160
Speaker 1: the sensory deprivation chamber that the Texans were sponsoring at

632
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:09,640
Speaker 1: the time, and I noticed that my like because we

633
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:12,200
Speaker 1: came into a scenario when Luke Richardson took over as

634
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:14,200
Speaker 1: a strength coach and we weren't running for the first month,

635
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:18,000
Speaker 1: so we were up our functional movement, like our mobility,

636
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 1: core strength, those things like that, and I got really

637
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 1: into breathing. Then I was pulling my breath like over

638
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 1: three minutes at that point, because I was doing free

639
00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:29,800
Speaker 1: diving protocols and whim Hoff and things like that. Just

640
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:32,520
Speaker 1: I was just curious. I had no structure to it

641
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:36,360
Speaker 1: or didn't understand the tool. But when we did come

642
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:39,280
Speaker 1: back to running, like I was less winned than everybody else,

643
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 1: I was running better as far as conditioning goes, I

644
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,040
Speaker 1: was like, all right, there's something here. And then I

645
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 1: had a buddy in Minnesota that was using breath work

646
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 1: for mental skills at the time for baseball players and

647
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:51,960
Speaker 1: hockey players, and we kind of ended up making a

648
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:53,760
Speaker 1: company around it that I started while I was playing,

649
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:58,000
Speaker 1: and then it's grown sense. But yeah, it's just that's

650
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 1: how it grew. But so I like the guinea pig

651
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:03,040
Speaker 1: like performance enhancing side of things, and he was the

652
00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 1: mental skills and then we kind of merge both worlds

653
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:08,400
Speaker 1: and created this company in the Mind Strung Project. Well,

654
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:11,080
Speaker 1: it was really fun because whenever I kind of caught

655
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:13,280
Speaker 1: you in the cafeteria, I would sort of hold you

656
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:15,640
Speaker 1: up and be like, well listen, I'm swimming and what

657
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:17,480
Speaker 1: about that? And I would always pick your brain about

658
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:20,400
Speaker 1: these things. So it's always been fascinating to me. You know,

659
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:24,000
Speaker 1: I get the secondhand information, so it's helped me out.

660
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:26,440
Speaker 1: I can say I can speak from example. But let's

661
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:29,160
Speaker 1: talk a little football. You have one of the most

662
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:33,600
Speaker 1: unique stories. You were a great player at Northwestern, mainly

663
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:37,800
Speaker 1: a safety right and then you kind of checked all

664
00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:41,320
Speaker 1: the boxes of every professional league there is. It seems

665
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 1: you were really good in the CFL. You helped win

666
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 1: a Gray Cup. You've gobbled up tackles, you know, I mean,

667
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:52,120
Speaker 1: you're you're outstanding on defense, on special teams. You come

668
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 1: to the Texans, though, how did you get to Houston?

669
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:57,200
Speaker 1: Tell tell that story because it's a fascinating one in

670
00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:02,840
Speaker 1: my mind. Yeah, it's a saga, if anything. It started

671
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 1: like I was all Big ten in college, led the

672
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:07,680
Speaker 1: big ten interceptions. Thought I had a chance, got no

673
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:09,840
Speaker 1: calls on draft day. It was probably too slow or

674
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:13,840
Speaker 1: something along those lines, or wasn't polished enough, whatever it was.

675
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:16,680
Speaker 1: Went to some mini camp workouts for the Bucks and

676
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:20,320
Speaker 1: the Bears and competed against draft picks and held my own.

677
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 1: So that was where it kind of got planned that

678
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 1: I could play, and so I was willing to do whatever,

679
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:27,680
Speaker 1: and half my motivation was to avoid the real world

680
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 1: and never get a nine to five kind of deal.

681
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:32,840
Speaker 1: But I knew I could play, so just how it

682
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 1: worked out. The only the only chance to play football

683
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:37,360
Speaker 1: was the Renal Football to like stay in shape in

684
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:40,840
Speaker 1: case they needed bodies and training camp for NFL. So

685
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 1: I went out there. I thought I was on the

686
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:44,160
Speaker 1: team when I showed up, but it was like a

687
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:47,240
Speaker 1: thirteen man tryout for two positions. It was lucky enough

688
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 1: to make the team. Left there. After like four weeks,

689
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:55,760
Speaker 1: I was working three jobs in Chicago. Got what were

690
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 1: the three jobs? What were the three jobs? Oh dude,

691
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 1: So I was working demolition, personal training, and then I

692
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 1: was basically like babysitting someone like the hockey players kids

693
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:12,239
Speaker 1: that I trained with. Yeah, craziness and but it paid off.

694
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 1: But yeah, I'm very grateful for that kind of time

695
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:17,920
Speaker 1: in my life. Gave me some perspective. And then I'd

696
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:21,080
Speaker 1: trained myself at or nine ten pm at night at

697
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:24,799
Speaker 1: this like old school boxing gym downtown Chicago, and then

698
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:26,640
Speaker 1: like wake up and do it all over again. And

699
00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:28,640
Speaker 1: then but I got to try out with the UFL,

700
00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:31,640
Speaker 1: got asked the training camp with them, and I was

701
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:34,359
Speaker 1: doing really well with the Omaha Nighthawks and then got

702
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 1: cut when all the NFL had their cuts, so they

703
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 1: took all the NFL guys that got cut cut me.

704
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:42,319
Speaker 1: My agent was kind of wishy, washing was didn't want

705
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:43,600
Speaker 1: me to go to Canada because you had to sign

706
00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 1: a two year deal, and he didn't said nobody was responding.

707
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:49,600
Speaker 1: I emailed all the CFL and NFL people like my

708
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:51,879
Speaker 1: tape and like an email saying I'll work my butt

709
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:53,960
Speaker 1: off for you kind of deal. The only team that

710
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:56,920
Speaker 1: responded to me was a Skatchewan rough Riders. So I

711
00:34:56,920 --> 00:35:00,120
Speaker 1: went up there on practice squad for three weeks and

712
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:02,120
Speaker 1: the season to sign a two year contract for the

713
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:09,280
Speaker 1: next two years fourteen fifteen or thirteen and fourteen and anyway.

714
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:13,440
Speaker 1: So came home, actually got jumped at a bar broke

715
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:18,120
Speaker 1: my jaw was wired shut for seven weeks. Liquid diet

716
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 1: learned how to train and like protect the dream at

717
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:23,240
Speaker 1: that point because at one point how my mandibles shield

718
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:26,360
Speaker 1: they didn't want me potentially playing football game. So like

719
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:28,319
Speaker 1: that was another wake up call to me to grow

720
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 1: up and learn and learn and learn, And that's why

721
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:32,920
Speaker 1: I learned how to train properly, learn how to and

722
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:35,680
Speaker 1: I was actually switching the linebacker this time. So while

723
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:38,040
Speaker 1: I was wired shut, I actually I lost twenty pounds

724
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:41,279
Speaker 1: and I ended up gaining twenty five and learned how

725
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 1: and I was twice as strong. I went back to

726
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 1: Northwestern's pro day, ran faster, jump, tire jump farther, those

727
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:50,480
Speaker 1: kind of things. Went to Canada. Had actually got cut

728
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:52,120
Speaker 1: in Canada and put on their Pea squad for a

729
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:55,920
Speaker 1: few years, got activated and balled on special teams. The

730
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 1: first year, special teams in defense. The next year. That

731
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:01,279
Speaker 1: first year we won the Great Cup. Was incredible experience.

732
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:06,280
Speaker 1: Then as I was coming out of the CFL, the

733
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:08,960
Speaker 1: teams were hitting my team up because they didn't really

734
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:10,719
Speaker 1: know who my agent was because they didn't communicate with

735
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:15,920
Speaker 1: him a lot. So anyways, got some workouts. Through the workouts,

736
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 1: I found out I had a blood condition that was

737
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 1: going to prevent me from playing football or signing a contract.

738
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 1: Had to solve that deal, solve that deal. Eventually signed

739
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:27,680
Speaker 1: with the Vikings, had a great preseason with them, when

740
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 1: incredible locker room, great people up there. Had two interceptions

741
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:34,279
Speaker 1: in the preseason, got put on peace squad, and then

742
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:36,840
Speaker 1: I got put in this decision point week three. I

743
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 1: think it was Texans wanted to like John Simon was

744
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:44,200
Speaker 1: down here vagin Formula with Raves and oh b and

745
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:48,480
Speaker 1: you guys were both Ohio boys, but we had we

746
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:50,400
Speaker 1: had trained together for two years at Ohio State. I

747
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:52,799
Speaker 1: was living in Columbus and my buddy Zach Born, who

748
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:56,800
Speaker 1: actually was in the Texans for an offseason, got me

749
00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:58,880
Speaker 1: into training with Ohio State NFL group, which is a

750
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:01,720
Speaker 1: massive blessing for me. Anthony Schlegel was an assistant strength

751
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:04,120
Speaker 1: coach and asked me to join them if I wanted to,

752
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:05,600
Speaker 1: And it was huge because I had no money and

753
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 1: needed needed to train and met some dogs and learned

754
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:13,359
Speaker 1: how to work there too, so it just translated really well. Um.

755
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 1: But so I had a decision point where the Vikings

756
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:20,239
Speaker 1: were offered me full guaranteed salary, like active salary, like

757
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:22,439
Speaker 1: four hundred and forty thousand dollars at the time, whatever

758
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 1: it was for the rest of the year, and they'll

759
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:26,719
Speaker 1: promise to get me up or that I go for

760
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 1: the Texans uh for three games active um and kind

761
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 1: of bet at myself and ended up having a few

762
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:37,520
Speaker 1: cool conversations over at the airport. Decided to whether or

763
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 1: not to get on the plane, and one of my

764
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:42,359
Speaker 1: Buddies was talking to me and he's like, you, uh,

765
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:46,960
Speaker 1: you played what three years in three different leagues to

766
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:49,760
Speaker 1: play in the NFL, not practice in the NFL. I go, yeah,

767
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 1: you're you're freaking right. Let's ride. So I hopped on

768
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 1: the plane, which, by the way, Dan Percy is my

769
00:37:55,760 --> 00:38:00,319
Speaker 1: quarterback in college. Yeah, but so that's that's the guy.

770
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:02,759
Speaker 1: Then I showed up to Houston and just played with

771
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:05,160
Speaker 1: my hair on fire on special teams and took over

772
00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:07,480
Speaker 1: that role and did what I could while I was there.

773
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 1: And I kind of left on a little bit of

774
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:12,000
Speaker 1: an injured season and eighteen. But yeah, that was in

775
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:16,040
Speaker 1: my career. Well, let's uh, you're being very humble there,

776
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:17,440
Speaker 1: because you had a good You were one of the

777
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:20,440
Speaker 1: best special teams players in team history. I mean, you're

778
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 1: really one of the best Texans on special teams of

779
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:25,239
Speaker 1: all time. Tell me about that first game when you

780
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:27,279
Speaker 1: actually did get in the game and it was a

781
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:31,200
Speaker 1: regular season contest. Did you take just a teeny tiny

782
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:33,759
Speaker 1: second to appreciate what was going on or was it

783
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:35,840
Speaker 1: all business just folcus on that What was it like

784
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:38,359
Speaker 1: for you? Yeah, I mean I was playing hungry for sure,

785
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:41,799
Speaker 1: and Brian Gaine at the time had reminded me, like

786
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:44,000
Speaker 1: before the game that like, I'm on a three three

787
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 1: week contract and I need to produce, so um, yeah,

788
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:51,880
Speaker 1: I was playing super hungry. I was dialed, but like

789
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:54,400
Speaker 1: I was very grateful and I think I appreciated the

790
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:57,400
Speaker 1: NFL just because of the path I took. But I

791
00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 1: actually made the first tackle on my first kickoff, so

792
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:02,560
Speaker 1: that kind of got everything out of the way, and

793
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:05,359
Speaker 1: after that had a really good first season down There

794
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:10,520
Speaker 1: was that the Bengals game. Money that was that year,

795
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:11,920
Speaker 1: and that was perfect for me because it was that

796
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 1: in Cincinnati, which is an hour and a half from

797
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:18,839
Speaker 1: my home, so I might have had sixty people there

798
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:21,240
Speaker 1: and probably had one of my better special teams games,

799
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:23,160
Speaker 1: a couple of big hits, so it was just h

800
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:26,360
Speaker 1: That was a fun game. Damn right. That was a

801
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:28,399
Speaker 1: fun game. That's one of my favorite games of all time.

802
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:31,320
Speaker 1: In the Texas twenty fifteen Monday night at Cincinnati. The

803
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:35,480
Speaker 1: Bengals undefeated, thought they were gonna roll, but no, the

804
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:38,400
Speaker 1: Texans defense dropped the hammer. DeAndre made that catch in

805
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:41,719
Speaker 1: the end zone. Man, that was such a fun night.

806
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:44,040
Speaker 1: Team sent at three and five against the team that's

807
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:45,920
Speaker 1: eight no knocked them off to go to four and

808
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:47,920
Speaker 1: five and then got a little bit of run one

809
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:50,720
Speaker 1: of the vision and Brian Peters was a big, big

810
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 1: part of that. All right, we get back. We'll go

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Speaker 1: round the league and wrap this up on a Wednesday

812
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:58,080
Speaker 1: edition of Texas All Access Next. Texas All Access Next,

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Speaker 1: Texas All Access Next. Everyone fast, sec me this Wednesday

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Speaker 1: ediative of Texans All Accous right here on Sports Royo

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Speaker 1: six ten and on the app. Hopefully you're getting on

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Speaker 1: the app, Houston Texans App, which is awesome, So download

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Speaker 1: that app. There's so much you can get on the app,

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Speaker 1: so make sure you have that with you. And of

819
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Speaker 1: course when the season is here, you can get tickets

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Speaker 1: and everything through the app. I'm telling you the ticket

821
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 1: situation last year was so easy. I didn't get as

822
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:25,719
Speaker 1: to use my tickets a lot because my family was

823
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:28,120
Speaker 1: in Los Angeles. So somebody would, you know, I would

824
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:29,440
Speaker 1: give him Drew. Drew'd be like, hey, man, you use

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Speaker 1: your tickets. I'd be like, yeah, cool, boom click click, click,

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Speaker 1: boom done. It's easy. Get the app, put it on

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Speaker 1: your phone and be ready to roll news around the NFL.

828
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Speaker 1: This one has got a little bit of Texans connections,

829
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 1: and that's James Bradberry Corner formerly of the New York

830
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:50,120
Speaker 1: Football Giants. He was released last week and then the

831
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:51,840
Speaker 1: story came out a day or two later saying the

832
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 1: Texans had actually been trying to make a trade for

833
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:57,960
Speaker 1: James Bradberry, but they couldn't come to an agreement on

834
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:00,560
Speaker 1: a deal. Well, the team did and that was Filled Eagles.

835
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:04,439
Speaker 1: The Eagles offered brad Berry a one year, ten million

836
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:06,520
Speaker 1: dollars deal, and as soon as I saw that he

837
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:09,080
Speaker 1: had accepted that, I realized, Okay, I get what happened here.

838
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:11,560
Speaker 1: The Texas probably wanted brad Berry a couple of years,

839
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 1: three years. Maybe brad Berry wanted a one year prove

840
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 1: it deal so he could then break the bank, if

841
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:19,839
Speaker 1: you will, after that prove it deal. He's thirty years

842
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:23,240
Speaker 1: old and he's betting on himself. I've seen it happen

843
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:25,880
Speaker 1: before and it works. A J boye I've seen before

844
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:29,720
Speaker 1: and it not worked. So James brader Berry betting on himself,

845
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:32,440
Speaker 1: but going to a Giant's rival, the Philadelphia Eagles, and

846
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:37,880
Speaker 1: he takes a one year, ten million dollar contract to

847
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 1: do it. This one was brutal treat. Cohen Bears running

848
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:46,000
Speaker 1: back towards acl last year and was doing a live

849
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:52,839
Speaker 1: workout on Instagram live and he tours Achilles Tendon and

850
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:56,799
Speaker 1: my heart Sank. I wasn't watching it, but people were

851
00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 1: tweeting it immediately I thought, Oh, I mean just Sank,

852
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:01,920
Speaker 1: So I hate that for Treat Cohen. He's one of

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Speaker 1: the more exciting players in the league. Just a gut

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Speaker 1: punch for the Bears running back Cohen. The Jets they

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Speaker 1: signed Garrett Wilson their first rounder. So first rounder is

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Speaker 1: getting signed. Actually, Texas have both of them side here

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Speaker 1: in Houston. That's a good thing. And that is the

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Speaker 1: end of the show, and that's not a great thing.

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Speaker 1: But we'll be back tomorrow with a lot more. Big

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Speaker 1: thanks to Brian Peters, to Drew Doherty, to all of

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Speaker 1: you for listed. Thank you so much. We'll see Tom

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Speaker 1: Arrow as always, Go Texans.