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Speaker 1: voicemail Press te Hi Lyle.

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Speaker 2: Hello, who is this?

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Speaker 1: This is John John.

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Speaker 2: How can I get you today?

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Speaker 1: Man?

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Speaker 2: What's going on?

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm just calling in to talk about some stuff

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Speaker 1: that's happening or has been happening in my life post military. Sure,

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Speaker 1: I was working for the Navy, the US Navy on

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Speaker 1: a submarine back in the twenty tens, and pretty much

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Speaker 1: I feel like my life is in shambles afterwards. And

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Speaker 1: the government's response to that stuff was just like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: we see what happens here. It's fucked up. Here's your money.

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Speaker 1: But now I can't pursue like a career education and

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Speaker 1: like stuff like that. It's kind of like a permanent hiatus.

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Speaker 1: I'm basically forced to be in this retirement in such

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Speaker 1: an early life that I'm lost because of a typical

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Speaker 1: you know, bureaucracy fuck ups. Sorry, can I curse? I

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Speaker 1: don't know if I can.

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Speaker 2: You can say whatever the fuck you want on here, John?

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Speaker 1: All right, So yeah, it's just a rough bag to get.

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm only twenty seven and I'm basically living

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Speaker 2: Wait a minute, so you were you were in the

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Speaker 1: No, no, twenty fifteen, sixteen.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Now, if you want to go into it, you can.

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Speaker 2: If you don't, that's fine. But what was it about

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Speaker 1: Uh, well, they don't have a really efficient pathway for

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Speaker 1: They basically were like, you're just making you're healthy. Look

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Speaker 1: And this is long winded and really shitty. I hate

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Speaker 2: Listen listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen. Sorry, I'm so sorry.

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Speaker 2: I'm fucking suck at names. What's your name again? It's

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Speaker 2: John John Lowell. Look, here's the thing. I'm it's not

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Speaker 2: long winded. I'll say this. Are you Is it like,

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Speaker 1: Well, obviously, I feel like this is a great way

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Speaker 1: I haven't really told anyone other than like VA therapists,

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Speaker 2: So as I understand it so far, you were nineteen,

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Speaker 1: Just because oh no, no, I had to move back

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Speaker 2: Tell me, tell me about your wife.

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Speaker 1: She's amazing. I wouldn't have gotten anywhere or fought for

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Speaker 2: That's really lovely, man. How did you guys meet?

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Speaker 1: This is weird Facebook dating.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's funny because even if you are diagnosed schizophrenic,

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Speaker 2: Do you do you do you feel that way?

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Speaker 1: I feel like I'm possibly the most saying schizophrenic.

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Speaker 2: I really mean it. It is. It is cool too. You know,

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Speaker 2: So can I ask you a weird question? Maybe this

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Speaker 1: What? Go ahead? Yeah, I'm free and open.

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Speaker 2: Do you do it? What do you do for fun?

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Speaker 1: I like beach crawling? Okay, it's if you go to

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Speaker 1: I keep the ones that I know I can, like

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Speaker 2: There anything in particular that you've that you've kept that

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Speaker 1: I'm open.

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Speaker 2: Let's see one person asks, do you think that farts

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Speaker 1: Kind Of it's hard to express because some family members

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Speaker 1: Not recently? After The Monkey one, I kind of was like,

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Speaker 1: I was his mouth was over the monkey's face. It

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Speaker 2: Someone wants to know if you wipe your ass back

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Speaker 1: Back, you're you're supposed to go front to back. If

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Speaker 2: Why, actually somebody did earlier? Ask does John like.

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Speaker 1: Sloppy h I I don't like it because my sexual

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Speaker 2: You're you're you're, You're a sweet guy, John. You're always

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no happen though.

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Speaker 2: Well, look, man, thank you very much for sharing your

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Speaker 1: I'll say this, everybody is deserving of love and they

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Speaker 2: John, we appreciate you sharing your story with us, and

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Speaker 2: I've said a bunch of times I'll say it again.

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Speaker 2: I think that the journey that you've you've been on

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Speaker 2: But I think the journey that you've been on, as

439
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:39,880
Speaker 2: you've described it to us from having that psychotic break

440
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:43,960
Speaker 2: to being in this place where you are right now,

441
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:46,240
Speaker 2: where it at least sounds to me like you have

442
00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:51,120
Speaker 2: some optimism for you know, good things to come to

443
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:53,840
Speaker 2: the future. I think that's that's a very commendable thing,

444
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:55,840
Speaker 2: and I don't think that that should be lost on you.

445
00:30:55,960 --> 00:31:01,560
Speaker 2: So good luck. I hope you get this farm one day.

446
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:05,400
Speaker 2: And thanks for calling man ghak bless.

447
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:09,040
Speaker 1: You, no problem, GEK, have a good one.

448
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:15,000
Speaker 2: Take care, John b Oh. I wasn't gonna say it,

449
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:19,600
Speaker 2: but I something about like, you know, I might regret

450
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:22,160
Speaker 2: saying this, but whatever, I feel like having schizophrenia and

451
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 2: watching a bunch of David Lynch movies sounds like it

452
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:26,959
Speaker 2: would be a pretty crazy experience.

453
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 1: Ah from Carlos.

454
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 2: Hello, Carlos, what's up?

455
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 3: Hey, what's up?

456
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 2: Yes, sir, how's it going.

457
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:38,520
Speaker 3: It's going pretty good, man. I need your advice.

458
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:41,960
Speaker 2: Tell me what's going on. I'm gonna try my best, man,

459
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:45,080
Speaker 2: I'm you know, whatever, Yeah, fucking I'll try my best.

460
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:46,160
Speaker 2: What's going on, Carlos?

461
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:48,000
Speaker 1: All right?

462
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:53,480
Speaker 3: So I've been married for for five years and been

463
00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 3: with that person for fifteen and they've been unfaithful to

464
00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:03,880
Speaker 3: me in the but not since we've been married. I've

465
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:10,120
Speaker 3: recently discovered that they are being unfaithful, but they don't

466
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:15,560
Speaker 3: know that I know. And they're supposed to go away

467
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:19,240
Speaker 3: next weekend to what they say is a friend's trip.

468
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 3: But I've uncovered that they're going to go meet up

469
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 3: with the person, and I need to know if I

470
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:31,280
Speaker 3: should like go and confront them there and confirm it,

471
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:32,960
Speaker 3: or if I should just talk to them.

472
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 1: Now.

473
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:36,960
Speaker 2: Well, let me ask you this, what do you want

474
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:37,160
Speaker 2: to do?

475
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 3: I want to go there? You want to go there? Well,

476
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:45,880
Speaker 3: because I kind of want to see it with my

477
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:49,360
Speaker 3: own eyes, Like they're going to a concert, and I

478
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 3: want to buy tickets and just like I know what

479
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:54,720
Speaker 3: section they're going to be sitting in, so I want

480
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:57,600
Speaker 3: to buy one like a little far away enough to

481
00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 3: like see what's going on and then kind of confront

482
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:03,080
Speaker 3: them after the show.

483
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:08,200
Speaker 2: Are you I guess? Let me So, how did you

484
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:12,080
Speaker 2: find out that she is going to a concert with

485
00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 2: this guy and not on this girl's trip?

486
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:14,480
Speaker 1: Yeah?

487
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 3: So she has a few friends she regularly hangs out with,

488
00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 3: and one of her friends when we were we have kids.

489
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:25,040
Speaker 3: So we were at a baseball game one of my

490
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:29,280
Speaker 3: kids and one of her friends accidentally said something about

491
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:32,480
Speaker 3: going to a show, and just the way they looked

492
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:35,240
Speaker 3: at each other, like their eyes got big, just kind

493
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:39,040
Speaker 3: of put up red flags for me. So there was

494
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:41,720
Speaker 3: a time where she left her phone on the bed

495
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:43,800
Speaker 3: and it hadn't lockt yet. It was she was showering,

496
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:47,280
Speaker 3: So I went in there, and then I saw the

497
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 3: whole message thread and everything between her and that guy.

498
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:56,640
Speaker 2: And you guys have two kids, we have three, you

499
00:33:56,680 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 2: have three. Yeah, have you talked to a lawyer?

500
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:12,720
Speaker 3: I've looked into it, but no, not like a lawyer,

501
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 3: just like what it looks like for divorce and stuff

502
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 3: where I live.

503
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:23,359
Speaker 2: So look, I don't I don't like, should you go

504
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:27,440
Speaker 2: and do a whole dramatic confrontation between her and this

505
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:31,719
Speaker 2: guy and rile up the emotions and and take part

506
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 2: in a scene? I don't know, but I guess what

507
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:42,000
Speaker 2: the way that I'm thinking about this is like, Okay,

508
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:49,440
Speaker 2: you have three kids, and what's gonna be the best

509
00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 2: course of action for your kids? And then what's gonna

510
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:55,680
Speaker 2: be the best course of action for like you and

511
00:34:55,719 --> 00:35:01,839
Speaker 2: your own uh you know, sanity? And I don't. I

512
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:04,799
Speaker 2: don't know if the answer to that question is to

513
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:07,239
Speaker 2: go and confront them and cause a scene. I don't

514
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:10,600
Speaker 2: know if the answer to that question is to leave quietly.

515
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:14,040
Speaker 2: I don't know if the answer is to consult a

516
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:16,560
Speaker 2: lawyer and see what what he thinks you should you

517
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:19,319
Speaker 2: should kind of what sort of ducks you should get

518
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:25,399
Speaker 2: in a row before you take on this. But yeah,

519
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:27,720
Speaker 2: I mean, I'll say this, I'm sorry to hear that.

520
00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:31,320
Speaker 2: That's a really tough situation, especially after after having kids.

521
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:33,560
Speaker 2: And uh and it's a real big bummer because you

522
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 2: said she was unfaithiable before and yeah, you know, I

523
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:44,360
Speaker 2: I commend you for uh having the the strength and

524
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:49,239
Speaker 2: the outlook to to forgive and take another chance. But uh,

525
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:51,960
Speaker 2: and it's a bummer when you do that and you're like, well, no,

526
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:56,640
Speaker 2: it was it was like this all along. And so again,

527
00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:59,759
Speaker 2: I'm sorry to hear that. But I guess, man, like

528
00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 2: if if if while we're on the phone right now together,

529
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:06,320
Speaker 2: I would say, like I I guess, I just I

530
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 2: wouldn't want you to like go out, like make your

531
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 2: next steps in this situation out of pure anger and

532
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:18,160
Speaker 2: emotion because you know, look, you don't want to go there,

533
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:19,320
Speaker 2: and like you don't want to start, don't want to

534
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:22,880
Speaker 2: get in a fucking fight with this guy, and you

535
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 2: don't want to do you don't want to.

536
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:27,239
Speaker 3: Do all that, right dude. Anyways, right, I guess when

537
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:30,399
Speaker 3: I was when I was younger and she she did

538
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:34,640
Speaker 3: cheat on me, I saw a lot like that. Right now,

539
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 3: just because it's been so long, man, I'm matured so much.

540
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:41,520
Speaker 3: I got three kids, Like I want what's best for them.

541
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 3: I'm not going to be getting into fights or anything,

542
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 3: you know, even though I could probably take them. But

543
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 3: the thing is, it's like she'll chill. She's a very

544
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:55,279
Speaker 3: good liar, as you can imagine. And my big concern is, like,

545
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:57,879
Speaker 3: if I don't capture in the act, you know, and

546
00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:00,920
Speaker 3: take a picture or something of them kissing or something

547
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 3: like that, she's not going to admit it. And then

548
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:09,839
Speaker 3: and in court, you know, I'm not gonna be able

549
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:11,800
Speaker 3: to say that, you know, she committed an adultery or

550
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:13,600
Speaker 3: anything like that. She's not gonna give me her phone.

551
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 3: She's not gonna obviously allow me to like I didn't

552
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:19,360
Speaker 3: take any screenshots or anything like that. In the moment,

553
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:22,840
Speaker 3: I'm just just very disappointed, and I kind of just

554
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:25,440
Speaker 3: want this to be over. And I know that if I,

555
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:27,440
Speaker 3: like just confront her, you know what I mean, like,

556
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:29,040
Speaker 3: just talk to her about it, just her and I.

557
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:32,360
Speaker 3: She's gonna deny it, you know, she's gonna call me

558
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:36,279
Speaker 3: crazy or something like that. So that's like a big

559
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 3: reason why I want to go there. Like as far

560
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:42,359
Speaker 3: as anger am, I upset about it, absolutely, like who

561
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:45,320
Speaker 3: wouldn't be right? But not like, oh I can't believe

562
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:47,480
Speaker 3: like you know, I'm gonna go beat this guy up

563
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:50,279
Speaker 3: or I'm gonna I don't feel like that at all.

564
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 3: I just don't know if like that's too much to

565
00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:57,960
Speaker 3: just go and try to collect evidence see it for

566
00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 3: my with my own eyes. So like when she tries

567
00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:03,239
Speaker 3: to tell me that I'm not sure that I'm making

568
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:05,440
Speaker 3: stuff up that I know I saw it.

569
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:10,319
Speaker 2: You know, when's the concert.

570
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:14,920
Speaker 3: It's gonna be looking at I think it's four more

571
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:19,840
Speaker 3: day to twenty six. Yeah, it's going to be the

572
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:23,239
Speaker 3: twenty sixth, the twenty six and then she's spending the

573
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 3: night quote unquote, so there's a hotel involved and all that.

574
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:30,640
Speaker 2: Where are you right now? Are you at work?

575
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 1: Are you? Yeah?

576
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:34,480
Speaker 3: I'm a I'm at home right now?

577
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:35,640
Speaker 2: Where's she.

578
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:38,080
Speaker 3: She's at work?

579
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 2: Where are the kids?

580
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:41,359
Speaker 1: There? Were cool?

581
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:42,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.

582
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:45,399
Speaker 1: Yeah.

583
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:47,920
Speaker 2: I mean, look, man, first things first, I'd consult a lawyer.

584
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 2: But I mean, let's talk about this, right So, you know,

585
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:59,399
Speaker 2: what do you and you've been with her, what fifteen years?

586
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:03,320
Speaker 3: Yeah? Man, since I was like seventeen.

587
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 2: And okay, so so what what would be your plan afterwards?

588
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:08,319
Speaker 3: Man?

589
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 2: Like, I guess, what do you what do you what

590
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:12,360
Speaker 2: do you anticipate for the future?

591
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:12,680
Speaker 1: What do you?

592
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 2: What do you? What do you want to happen? I

593
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:16,279
Speaker 2: know you're kind of in a in a state of

594
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:19,879
Speaker 2: like processing right now, but you know, let's let's talk

595
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 2: about it for a second.

596
00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 3: If if you can, yeah, I you know, afterwards, I mean,

597
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:29,279
Speaker 3: if I see this happening and it's really what I

598
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:31,560
Speaker 3: saw on the phone and all that, Like I want

599
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 3: a divorce. I want to be in my kid's lives.

600
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:37,560
Speaker 3: I want to be an active father, you know, just

601
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:40,080
Speaker 3: because she's not a good wife to me, I want

602
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:41,919
Speaker 3: to be clear, that doesn't make her a bad mom.

603
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:45,080
Speaker 3: She's a great mom. She's just not a good wife.

604
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:50,520
Speaker 3: So I hope she allows that for me. And like,

605
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:53,759
Speaker 3: you know, I'll just keep that work sixty hours a week,

606
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:57,920
Speaker 3: so you know, do that see my kids? You know,

607
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:00,600
Speaker 3: I just want to be successful enough to help raise

608
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 3: them and they have for them to have a good

609
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:04,440
Speaker 3: shot at life, you know.

610
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, man, that rocks. Mm hmmm mm hmmm.

611
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:14,279
Speaker 2: Who's the concert again?

612
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:18,440
Speaker 3: It's well, I'm afraid if I say that people will

613
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:19,960
Speaker 3: know the location because oh.

614
00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, actually does that doesn't make sense?

615
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:22,680
Speaker 4: Yeah?

616
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:25,880
Speaker 2: That actually that would be That would be really funny

617
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:28,320
Speaker 2: if like a bunch of people in gecko suits just

618
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:33,200
Speaker 2: show to her her section and her seat, then she

619
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:35,400
Speaker 2: would definitely be like, what the fuck is going on?

620
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:41,680
Speaker 3: If I had like more animosity towards there, I probably would.

621
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:45,000
Speaker 3: But like I said, I've I don't want this to

622
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:47,719
Speaker 3: be like a big spectacle. I'm just turned between what

623
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:51,400
Speaker 3: I should do because, like like I said, she's gonna

624
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:53,359
Speaker 3: lie her way out of it, like and I won't

625
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:56,520
Speaker 3: have any proof and I won't I won't have any

626
00:40:56,640 --> 00:41:00,319
Speaker 3: reason in court at all to like, you know, I'll

627
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:02,399
Speaker 3: just be like me filing for divorces. I don't want

628
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 3: to be with her, That's why.

629
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:08,279
Speaker 2: I mean, that's why, Like, that's why what you say

630
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 2: she's been spiteful before?

631
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:13,759
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, like when I've caught her in the past

632
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 3: prior to being married. I mean, she's she's definitely gone

633
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:20,200
Speaker 3: out of her way to try to like hurt me

634
00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:22,880
Speaker 3: and stop me from having any future with other people.

635
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:26,480
Speaker 3: And then things got kind of quiet for a while,

636
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:29,480
Speaker 3: and then for lack of a better phrase, like the

637
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:34,200
Speaker 3: flame was rekindled, and then we got we got married,

638
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 3: and then actually, not too long ago, she admitted to

639
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:40,400
Speaker 3: me that its messed up as it is, that like

640
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:43,480
Speaker 3: she only married me because she wanted to make sure

641
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:45,200
Speaker 3: that I was never going to be with anyone else.

642
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:47,200
Speaker 3: She couldn't stand the idea of it.

643
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:48,840
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm.

644
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:52,360
Speaker 2: So that was that was a really nice thing to

645
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 2: Is this the only woman that you've ever been with.

646
00:41:57,600 --> 00:42:00,200
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, like in a relationship on me when I

647
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 3: was younger, Like you know, I've been with other people

648
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 3: on dates and stuff, but not on anything like this

649
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:07,480
Speaker 3: at all.

650
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:08,719
Speaker 1: M hmmm hmm.

651
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:11,480
Speaker 2: Well I guess. Well another thing is I mean, I

652
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:13,440
Speaker 2: know it's been a really long time, but I hope

653
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:16,880
Speaker 2: that you don't and dude, any honestly, anything I'm going

654
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 2: to say. I mean, you sound like a dude with

655
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:23,120
Speaker 2: a real healthy mindset about all this stuff already, But

656
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:27,720
Speaker 2: like you know, I guess I hope that this uh situation,

657
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 2: it doesn't like set the framework for how you view relationships,

658
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:37,080
Speaker 2: because that can happen, right, Like, especially if you've been

659
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:39,760
Speaker 2: in one relationship for a long time and the person's

660
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:42,399
Speaker 2: like fucking nasty to you. Then when you go back

661
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:44,480
Speaker 2: out and start a dating again, like you just expect

662
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:48,120
Speaker 2: people to be nasty to you, and it happens, you know,

663
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:54,480
Speaker 2: friendships wise too. So I guess like when you if

664
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:57,560
Speaker 2: if you do decide for however long you know it takes, whatever,

665
00:42:57,600 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 2: if you do decide to go out and you know,

666
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:02,600
Speaker 2: starting other people, like, you know, I hope you uh,

667
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:08,920
Speaker 2: just make sure that you're like setting a news standard

668
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:11,879
Speaker 2: for yourself so that you're not like being like, oh,

669
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:13,640
Speaker 2: you know, it's it's so that would be like the

670
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:15,759
Speaker 2: next time someone's like, you know, yelling at you or whatever,

671
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 2: you're not like, well, this is just how relationships are,

672
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:18,560
Speaker 2: you know.

673
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:23,320
Speaker 3: Hm hmm. Yeah. I I guess I haven't thought that

674
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 3: far ahead yet because like I haven't pretty much like

675
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:30,319
Speaker 3: blasting all. But that's a good point. I've never been

676
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:34,200
Speaker 3: in that situation, so yeah, that's a good point. I mean,

677
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:37,279
Speaker 3: I probably can be hard on myself and like have

678
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:38,640
Speaker 3: some expectations, so.

679
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:41,080
Speaker 2: How old are the kids.

680
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 3: They're three and a half, nine and two.

681
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:57,440
Speaker 2: Mm hmmm mm hmmm, mm hmmm. Well listen, man, you're uh,

682
00:43:57,719 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 2: you're you're. You're a good dude. You that you really are.

683
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:02,360
Speaker 2: You're a good dude. You got your head on straight.

684
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:04,680
Speaker 2: I think, I mean, I'm glad that we could talk

685
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:06,399
Speaker 2: about this, but I don't. I don't think you really

686
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:09,440
Speaker 2: needed my advice. If you look, if you were to

687
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:11,879
Speaker 2: if you came in hot and you were like, I'm

688
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:13,839
Speaker 2: gonna go there, I'm gonna beat the fucking ship out

689
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:16,400
Speaker 2: of that guy, all that stuff, Like if you were

690
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:18,600
Speaker 2: coming in hot, I'd be worried, but you're you're. You

691
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:23,800
Speaker 2: gotta show mine you're not worried about you at all. Hmmm.

692
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:27,279
Speaker 2: Well go talk, go talk. That's as far as like, okay,

693
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:29,840
Speaker 2: it's like the final quot, like the question like should

694
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:32,880
Speaker 2: you go to the concert and like take pictures of

695
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:36,480
Speaker 2: them and stuff like, bro, I I would just I

696
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:38,600
Speaker 2: talk to a lawyer, I really would. I would like,

697
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:41,800
Speaker 2: get off the phone with me, go call a divorce

698
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 2: lawyer and be like what do I need in court

699
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:47,160
Speaker 2: to make it so that you know, I'm all set

700
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:50,040
Speaker 2: when it comes to custody and assets and all that stuff.

701
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:52,319
Speaker 2: And you know, see see what they have to say.

702
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:57,600
Speaker 3: All right, I'll do that. That's a good idea. I've

703
00:44:57,600 --> 00:44:58,759
Speaker 3: been putting that off for a while.

704
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:02,759
Speaker 2: So, Carlos, I don't, Carlos, I really don't know if

705
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 2: I believe in karma. I really don't. I really don't

706
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:11,400
Speaker 2: know if I believe in like an external force that

707
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:19,920
Speaker 2: makes the that that enforces karma necessarily. But I I

708
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:25,160
Speaker 2: have optimism just from talking to you that that, uh,

709
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:30,800
Speaker 2: things will go good in your life soon enough, because

710
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:33,799
Speaker 2: because you've been uh you know, a good, a good

711
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 2: integral guy. And I don't I don't know if that's

712
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:38,520
Speaker 2: I don't know if that's true. You might uh get

713
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:41,279
Speaker 2: get run over by a car tomorrow. God's crazy, but

714
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:45,160
Speaker 2: I hope it is. God, damn it. I hope it is.

715
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:47,120
Speaker 2: And and and if if I were in charge of

716
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:50,520
Speaker 2: the universe, I'd give you ten million dollars.

717
00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:56,520
Speaker 3: That'd be nice. I think the kids would be both set.

718
00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:59,719
Speaker 2: Up with Carlos, Is there anything else you want to

719
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:05,920
Speaker 2: say the people of the computer before we go, Hey,

720
00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:07,440
Speaker 2: if if someone.

721
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:10,480
Speaker 3: Is cheating on you, at the very least, don't stay

722
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:16,719
Speaker 3: in their relationship. Yeah, that's that's all I gotta say.

723
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:19,359
Speaker 2: Take care, Carlos, thanks for calling. Good luck.

724
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:20,880
Speaker 1: I think so.

725
00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:26,640
Speaker 2: I fuck with that guy, Carlos, Man, Carlos. Carlos is

726
00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 2: a good guy.

727
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:28,279
Speaker 1: Uh that.

728
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:30,160
Speaker 2: I went on a whole rant about carl at the

729
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:31,880
Speaker 2: end because I was just like, man, fuck, you know,

730
00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 2: Carlos is a good guy and he just got fucked,

731
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:38,200
Speaker 2: you know, And I hope, uh, I hope something good

732
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:38,920
Speaker 2: happens to him.

733
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:40,160
Speaker 1: I really do.

734
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:44,680
Speaker 2: I hope something good happens to him. Yoh, that'd be crazy.

735
00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:46,239
Speaker 2: Well I don't know who the artist is, but what

736
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:52,319
Speaker 2: if it's like like Carlos uh fucking contacts Bruce Springsteen

737
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:57,400
Speaker 2: and tells him the whole situation and he goes on

738
00:46:57,560 --> 00:47:00,759
Speaker 2: the stage and and he puts them up on the

739
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:03,120
Speaker 2: jumbo tron and he confronts them there. That'd be cool.

740
00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:05,239
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know how productive that would be,

741
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 2: but it'd be cool.

742
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:10,400
Speaker 1: All from Jayden?

743
00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:15,919
Speaker 5: Hello, Yo, what the heck?

744
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:16,520
Speaker 3: What's up?

745
00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:18,360
Speaker 2: Who is this?

746
00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:20,560
Speaker 5: Jayden?

747
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:25,359
Speaker 2: What's up? Jay Jay? I don't know what you just said.

748
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:29,279
Speaker 2: I'm gonna call you Jayden Jaden? What's up? How's it going? How?

749
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:32,360
Speaker 2: How how are you what'd you want to talk about today? Oh?

750
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:35,800
Speaker 5: My gosh show. Uh did you see what I texted you?

751
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:39,640
Speaker 2: No, no idea. I don't even know what what that means.

752
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 5: Oh well, I don't know. Anyways, I was calling you

753
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:47,760
Speaker 5: to talk about I watched I listened to your podcast

754
00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:50,839
Speaker 5: all the time while driving, and I listened to one

755
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:53,680
Speaker 5: of them recently and it was you talking about like

756
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:57,239
Speaker 5: you struggling with like your way and all that. Yeah,

757
00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:01,160
Speaker 5: and that like just like hit me like close, and

758
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:03,400
Speaker 5: I was like, man, I got to talk to this

759
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:06,320
Speaker 5: guy about this because this is like actually something I

760
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:07,759
Speaker 5: relate to so hard.

761
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:12,479
Speaker 2: Man, Sure, sure, sure, sure, Yeah.

762
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:12,960
Speaker 1: I don't know.

763
00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:16,560
Speaker 5: It's been like a constant like up and down and

764
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:19,400
Speaker 5: I'll like I'll really like get at it and then

765
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:25,359
Speaker 5: just like be completely unmotivated to Yeah. It's just I'm

766
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:26,680
Speaker 5: sure you understand what it's like.

767
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:30,320
Speaker 2: What does it look like when you're getting at it?

768
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:37,319
Speaker 5: I mean I constantly like trying to like diet, watch

769
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:40,000
Speaker 5: calories that sort of thing.

770
00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 2: I mean, do you have a well, I mean, here's

771
00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:47,600
Speaker 2: just like a thing about it. I've been thinking about it,

772
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:50,840
Speaker 2: but thinking about like there's no I used to always

773
00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:53,279
Speaker 2: I find myself in this habit, and I've been doing

774
00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:57,000
Speaker 2: this my whole life, at least as an adult, where like,

775
00:48:57,320 --> 00:49:01,880
Speaker 2: I will fantasize about season of my life in the

776
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:06,680
Speaker 2: future wherein I have the strength and the capability to

777
00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:09,359
Speaker 2: get in very good shape and the time to get

778
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:12,640
Speaker 2: in really good shape and the you know whatever. I'm

779
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:17,560
Speaker 2: always doing that. I'm always fantasizing about seasons of my

780
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:23,440
Speaker 2: life in the future that I don't I'm not weighed

781
00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:31,919
Speaker 2: down by the emotions and the problems and the constraints

782
00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:36,640
Speaker 2: that I deal with presently, right, because you always want

783
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:38,879
Speaker 2: to believe that in the future those emotions and those

784
00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:42,759
Speaker 2: constraints will go away. But guess what, I've been doing

785
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:45,480
Speaker 2: that for years and years and years and years. And

786
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:49,799
Speaker 2: here's the truth about the future. It never comes. It's

787
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:54,399
Speaker 2: always the present. So I've learned that and I've gone, well,

788
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:57,560
Speaker 2: if I don't get in shape literally right now, not

789
00:49:57,719 --> 00:50:00,920
Speaker 2: a future version of me that is cool and ripped,

790
00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:04,920
Speaker 2: but me right fucking now, it's just never gonna happen.

791
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:09,200
Speaker 2: It's just gonna always, always, always be like this. And

792
00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:14,200
Speaker 2: so I mean that's what you got to understand. Uh yeah,

793
00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:18,799
Speaker 2: just doing that, and that is is fitness advice from

794
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:22,640
Speaker 2: a two hundred pound five six man if that was

795
00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:28,800
Speaker 2: of any value to you, Because I'm also I'm also

796
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:34,239
Speaker 2: very not I mean I go in little waves of it,

797
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:38,120
Speaker 2: like I think I decided this. I decided this because

798
00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:40,760
Speaker 2: I'm traveling a lot with like doing the tour and stuff,

799
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:43,160
Speaker 2: and I had a period of time earlier this year

800
00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:44,520
Speaker 2: where I was like, Okay, I actually think I can

801
00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:49,040
Speaker 2: still diet need okay, but I'll get Whenever I'm at

802
00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:52,600
Speaker 2: the airport at five o'clock in the morning, I'm I'm

803
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:54,920
Speaker 2: just like I need to eat for some reason. I

804
00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:55,640
Speaker 2: don't know what it is.

805
00:50:56,360 --> 00:50:58,719
Speaker 5: The biggest airport dude.

806
00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:01,240
Speaker 2: Dude, No, when I'm at the airport at five o'clock

807
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:04,360
Speaker 2: in the morning. First of all, like the days are longer,

808
00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:06,359
Speaker 2: so it's a short day. When you can like wake

809
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:09,520
Speaker 2: up at eight and go to bed at ten, it's easier,

810
00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:11,080
Speaker 2: the day is shorter. But when you're like waking up

811
00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:12,920
Speaker 2: at five and going to bed at midnight, it's like

812
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:18,839
Speaker 2: it's just more time awake to eat. Yeah, anyway, who

813
00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:21,120
Speaker 2: cares about that? But yeah, No, I'm at the airport

814
00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:23,200
Speaker 2: at five am eating. I was at the airport at

815
00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:25,040
Speaker 2: five am. I had a five am. I had a

816
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:29,840
Speaker 2: vanilla kulata from Dunkin Donuts? Crazy is that?

817
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:30,200
Speaker 4: Dude?

818
00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:32,360
Speaker 5: The airport Duncan is so dangerous.

819
00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:37,759
Speaker 2: It's so dangerous. I mean, yeah, man, what's your uh,

820
00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:42,400
Speaker 2: what's your food of of of choice for the destruction

821
00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:43,080
Speaker 2: of your body?

822
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:47,759
Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, yo, freaking So I work at Chick

823
00:51:47,840 --> 00:51:52,080
Speaker 5: fil A. So that is like my biggest downfall, biggest

824
00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:56,960
Speaker 5: downfall God could have ever given me. Main job working

825
00:51:56,960 --> 00:52:01,799
Speaker 5: at fast food play trying to lose weight. Craziest thing ever.

826
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:05,480
Speaker 2: Do you get a lot of what's your favorite Chick

827
00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:07,359
Speaker 2: fil A item that they give you for free?

828
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:10,640
Speaker 5: Oh my gosh. Well, when I'm trying not to be

829
00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:14,800
Speaker 5: you know, freaking tat, you know, just a you know,

830
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:18,240
Speaker 5: if you get a regular sandwich, if I can recommend anything,

831
00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:22,440
Speaker 5: do you regular sandwich? Just a regular deluxe sandwich and

832
00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:25,640
Speaker 5: add bacon and American and your life will be changed

833
00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:29,880
Speaker 5: and you'll freaking be fat like me. But when I

834
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:33,680
Speaker 5: go and break recently, it's freaking dude, changes your life

835
00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:37,759
Speaker 5: for real, changes your life. But when I'm not trying

836
00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:40,720
Speaker 5: to be freaking tet, I get just a grilled sandwich

837
00:52:41,320 --> 00:52:42,399
Speaker 5: and that's also pretty good.

838
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:51,600
Speaker 2: Okay, the grilled nuggets a pretty calorie efficient.

839
00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:56,400
Speaker 5: Bro talk about protein intake and like low calorie.

840
00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:01,120
Speaker 2: This is the this is the dumb ass version of

841
00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:09,120
Speaker 2: the Huberman podcast. Well anyway, man, I mean yeah, I

842
00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:10,319
Speaker 2: mean don't get the milkshakes.

843
00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:14,480
Speaker 5: Oh dude, our milk cheeks are so bad for you

844
00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:17,160
Speaker 5: to I haven't had one of them and like forever,

845
00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:18,200
Speaker 5: but they are fire.

846
00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:22,279
Speaker 2: I used to work at a frozen yogurt store and

847
00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:24,399
Speaker 2: that was horrible because it was a frozen yogurt store,

848
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:27,040
Speaker 2: but it was also a candy store and it was

849
00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:31,000
Speaker 2: a failing business and nobody would come in, so all

850
00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:34,760
Speaker 2: there was to do all day was eat frozen yogurt.

851
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:38,680
Speaker 5: Instead, at least you got paid to do it.

852
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:39,680
Speaker 1: Yeah.

853
00:53:40,120 --> 00:53:45,440
Speaker 2: I used to work out of this like office and

854
00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:49,160
Speaker 2: they had crazy snacks and I would stream out of

855
00:53:49,239 --> 00:53:54,400
Speaker 2: the office and my routine was like stream talk to

856
00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:57,000
Speaker 2: people on this podcast for two hours and then afterwards

857
00:53:57,080 --> 00:54:01,600
Speaker 2: just take a huge fucking dab and eat literally literally

858
00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:06,120
Speaker 2: like five thousand calories worth of of office snacks and stuff.

859
00:54:06,120 --> 00:54:07,360
Speaker 2: But anyway, I don't know if any of this is

860
00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:11,920
Speaker 2: is help. I'm going back to, uh my routine now,

861
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:13,759
Speaker 2: like my routine. On a good day, I'll eat a

862
00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:17,400
Speaker 2: quest bar and a muscle milk and then I'll have like,

863
00:54:17,719 --> 00:54:22,080
Speaker 2: uh some other random fucking sometimes I'll have a Factor meal.

864
00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:24,319
Speaker 2: Shout out the Factor Uh.

865
00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:27,239
Speaker 5: Yeah, I would. You made me genuinely look into them.

866
00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:29,880
Speaker 5: I was like, I was like not to shout them

867
00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:31,160
Speaker 5: out or anything, but I was like, yo, this is

868
00:54:31,239 --> 00:54:32,560
Speaker 5: actually a really good option.

869
00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:36,759
Speaker 2: No free a factor. I love factor factors good. It

870
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:38,320
Speaker 2: gets a little tricky for me because I'm always like

871
00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:39,879
Speaker 2: on the road and stuff, so I'm not always there

872
00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:43,239
Speaker 2: to like be get the thing. But when I in

873
00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:46,160
Speaker 2: the I had like two months where I was not

874
00:54:46,360 --> 00:54:47,520
Speaker 2: on the road and I was doing a lot of

875
00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:49,440
Speaker 2: Factor and it's good. It's good ship. So I mean

876
00:54:49,640 --> 00:54:53,560
Speaker 2: that ship. Chipotle is actually pretty. It's fucking expensive. Like,

877
00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:56,680
Speaker 2: I'll if you get a Chipotlet bowl for real?

878
00:54:57,239 --> 00:54:59,160
Speaker 5: I do I get a bowl?

879
00:54:59,719 --> 00:54:59,919
Speaker 1: Yeah?

880
00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:01,200
Speaker 5: So expensive?

881
00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:05,000
Speaker 2: No, I'll get literally, I'll get a Chipotle bowl. It's

882
00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:10,960
Speaker 2: got fucking double meat. Get some queso on there. You

883
00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:13,520
Speaker 2: know you white rice, oh and brown rice doesn't matter.

884
00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:16,640
Speaker 2: Same amount of calories. It's something like eight hundred and

885
00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:21,279
Speaker 2: forty calories eighty one grams of protein. That's a lot

886
00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:24,840
Speaker 2: of protein and twenty dollars, which is a lot of

887
00:55:25,120 --> 00:55:29,120
Speaker 2: money to spend on a fucking one meal. But whatever,

888
00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:29,800
Speaker 2: I guess.

889
00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:32,120
Speaker 1: Whatever.

890
00:55:32,200 --> 00:55:33,680
Speaker 5: Everything's just money anyway, is it?

891
00:55:34,160 --> 00:55:38,160
Speaker 2: Proteins? Expensive? Dude? Proteins. That's why when you get beef

892
00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:42,960
Speaker 2: jerky at the oh my god, you're he'sy expensive beef

893
00:55:43,080 --> 00:55:46,040
Speaker 2: jerky nuts, you know, I mean the protein bars are

894
00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:46,880
Speaker 2: fucking expensive.

895
00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:52,279
Speaker 5: Yeah, anything that is protein based, you're basically gonna have

896
00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:54,880
Speaker 5: to sell your first born just to just to have

897
00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:55,600
Speaker 5: a package.

898
00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:56,200
Speaker 1: Yeah.

899
00:55:56,360 --> 00:55:59,239
Speaker 2: Meanwhile, a twinkie is like all the hostess shit, it's

900
00:55:59,239 --> 00:56:00,520
Speaker 2: super cheap. It's a dollar.

901
00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:03,359
Speaker 5: They want us to be fat.

902
00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:07,959
Speaker 2: They want us to be fat, and uh, they're getting

903
00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:10,240
Speaker 2: what they want as of now, but not not forever.

904
00:56:11,080 --> 00:56:11,640
Speaker 2: Not forever.

905
00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:15,960
Speaker 5: I hope when I come to your show, we're both

906
00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:18,560
Speaker 5: just like absolutely fucking ripped.

907
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:22,600
Speaker 2: When when which, literally which show are you gonna come to?

908
00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:24,040
Speaker 2: How much time?

909
00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:27,160
Speaker 5: I really want to I put my I put my note,

910
00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:31,240
Speaker 5: I put my number in for the I live in Delaware,

911
00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:34,520
Speaker 5: so I'm like, between d C and Philly, they're both

912
00:56:34,600 --> 00:56:35,439
Speaker 5: like forty five minutes.

913
00:56:35,719 --> 00:56:39,160
Speaker 2: I actually those are in September. I might actually be

914
00:56:39,280 --> 00:56:41,240
Speaker 2: able to get a little ripped by September.

915
00:56:41,239 --> 00:56:42,759
Speaker 5: All right, you're gonna be rip.

916
00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:45,920
Speaker 2: Let's do You're gonna be ripped. All right, let's do this.

917
00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:49,239
Speaker 2: Let's do this, let's do this, Let's do this. What's

918
00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:51,239
Speaker 2: your name? I'm gonna forget it when I meet you?

919
00:56:52,680 --> 00:56:57,879
Speaker 2: Jaden Uh okay, all right, if you come to either

920
00:56:57,960 --> 00:56:59,800
Speaker 2: the show in d C or Philly and and and

921
00:57:00,680 --> 00:57:03,040
Speaker 2: I stand around and meet everyone after the show. So

922
00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:07,480
Speaker 2: if if you stand around and we meet, tell me

923
00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:09,839
Speaker 2: let me know it was like, Hey, I'm the guy

924
00:57:10,239 --> 00:57:13,000
Speaker 2: who you talked to on the podcast about you know,

925
00:57:13,160 --> 00:57:14,920
Speaker 2: we will make up. Let's make a pact. We'll make

926
00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:16,720
Speaker 2: up it and maybe not rip. We don't get ripped,

927
00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:20,360
Speaker 2: but we'll make a packed for to get about, like,

928
00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:24,320
Speaker 2: you know, as reasonably ripped as you can get from

929
00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:27,680
Speaker 2: May it's till Deptember. Yeah, And I'm gonna feel like

930
00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:29,520
Speaker 2: a piece of shit because if he's if you show

931
00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:32,200
Speaker 2: up and you're like you have a six pack, and

932
00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:34,000
Speaker 2: you're like we had a pact, right, and I'm like

933
00:57:34,240 --> 00:57:35,640
Speaker 2: ten pounds fatter?

934
00:57:40,680 --> 00:57:44,200
Speaker 5: Nah, No, we got this dog, all right, for sure

935
00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:47,320
Speaker 5: got this. Like you're also going to be six foot

936
00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:49,680
Speaker 5: I'm also expecting that. I don't know how you're going

937
00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:50,880
Speaker 5: to grow that much, but you will.

938
00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:53,920
Speaker 2: It's true. I do have to also grow twelve inches. No,

939
00:57:54,040 --> 00:57:56,240
Speaker 2: that's why I could go six into I feel like

940
00:57:56,960 --> 00:57:59,960
Speaker 2: if anyone has one of those medieval torture machines stretched

941
00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:01,760
Speaker 2: that I could borrow, that would be cool.

942
00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:05,440
Speaker 5: Well, I might have to find someone who can trailer

943
00:58:05,520 --> 00:58:07,080
Speaker 5: one and we can do it at the show. Talk

944
00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:13,040
Speaker 5: about a segment, Damn, I know, Yeah.

945
00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:15,080
Speaker 2: That's no. We should do a segment on the show

946
00:58:15,080 --> 00:58:17,840
Speaker 2: where me and an audience member try to look smax.

947
00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:21,960
Speaker 3: Well.

948
00:58:22,120 --> 00:58:22,880
Speaker 5: I look forward to.

949
00:58:22,920 --> 00:58:25,360
Speaker 2: That, Jade, Is there anything else? When I say to

950
00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:26,600
Speaker 2: the people in the computer before.

951
00:58:26,360 --> 00:58:32,360
Speaker 5: We go, oh my gosh, yo, get swool. And if

952
00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:34,320
Speaker 5: you're fat, just know it's not forever.

953
00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:35,280
Speaker 1: You can change.

954
00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:39,560
Speaker 2: If you have If you have twenty dollars to spend

955
00:58:39,600 --> 00:58:40,600
Speaker 2: on Chipotle.

956
00:58:41,280 --> 00:58:44,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, if you can eat Chipotle every day, then you're good.

957
00:58:44,720 --> 00:58:48,960
Speaker 5: If you can't. Twinkies are like four dollars a box,

958
00:58:49,600 --> 00:58:52,439
Speaker 5: you can live off those. Yeah, that's what the government wants.

959
00:58:53,360 --> 00:58:55,680
Speaker 2: But that's what the government wants, all right, take care

960
00:58:55,720 --> 00:58:57,960
Speaker 2: of Jade, and good luck. Try not to sh.

961
00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:01,680
Speaker 5: I want I'm gonna do it for you, bro, I'll be,

962
00:59:01,760 --> 00:59:03,040
Speaker 5: I'll be, I'll be tried when I.

963
00:59:03,080 --> 00:59:05,760
Speaker 2: See you don't do it for me. Do it for yourself, Jaden.

964
00:59:08,120 --> 00:59:12,320
Speaker 2: That's what you gotta learn. Goes on the line, taking

965
00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:13,280
Speaker 2: your phone calls.

966
00:59:13,360 --> 00:59:13,920
Speaker 1: Every night.

967
00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:17,520
Speaker 2: There Beacon goes doing his hide. He's teaching you about in.

968
00:59:17,560 --> 00:59:18,400
Speaker 1: The middle of your life.

969
00:59:18,840 --> 00:59:20,920
Speaker 2: Money's not really an expert.