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Speaker 1: Good mornings, sweet world, and welcome to the No Dunks Podcast,

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Speaker 1: presented by Fan Duel. It's Monday, June twenty ninth, twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty six. I'm Jay Skeetz here in the Classic Factory

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Speaker 1: and alongside me, as always, Test Milis, it's free agency

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Speaker 1: time over Yonder making the magic happen. Super producer jd.

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Speaker 1: There he is here. We are Trey Kirby on his

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Speaker 1: way back to Atlanta as we speak. I hope he

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Speaker 1: stops at a BUCkies. Oh, I hope he stops at

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Speaker 1: a BUCkies. Hello to everybody joining us live on YouTube,

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Speaker 1: our best while we're actually doing a show. But this

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Speaker 1: guy's dropping things left.

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Speaker 2: And right now.

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Speaker 1: You're dropping a lot of player options being picked up

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Speaker 1: or declined, and.

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Speaker 2: We'll get into those later and players being indicted on

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Speaker 2: federal charges. Heez.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, we'll also talk about the Hornets trading some

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Speaker 1: guy to the Phoenix Suns the Thunder. They made some

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Speaker 1: moves over the weekend, and we got a bunch of

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Speaker 1: other transactions. But first task, NBA trade rumors are at

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Speaker 1: an all time high right now, so let's feed the

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Speaker 1: piggies and bring back the slop scale, farmer tasks and

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Speaker 1: farmer skeets here.

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Speaker 2: Trade should shot stop at a BUCkies, but you should

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Speaker 2: also just stop at a farm. See if the pigs

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Speaker 2: are a I saw a piggy at a farm here

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Speaker 2: in Georgia yesterday. Piggy's fourth smartest animal I've heard.

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Speaker 1: Well, they know a lot about trade rumors, that's for sure.

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Speaker 1: So we are going to weigh in on the latest

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Speaker 1: NBA trade rumors using the slop scale. If this is

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Speaker 1: your first time joining us here on no dunks. The heavier,

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Speaker 1: the juicier, the sloppier the NBA trade rumor, the more

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Speaker 1: buckets of slop we assigned to it, right, all right,

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Speaker 1: So five buckets of slop very exciting, you're very into

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Speaker 1: said trade rumor maybe you buy it for all I know,

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Speaker 1: one bucket a slop and you're like, come on, you know,

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Speaker 1: maybe this is old news, this is nothing whatever, however

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Speaker 1: you want to interpret it. Yeah, okay, okay, Well let's

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Speaker 1: get into it first. One here, the Blazers are still

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Speaker 1: exploring the idea of trading for Jalen Brown with free

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Speaker 1: agency on the horizon. In fact, Stein and Fisher our

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Speaker 1: slop Kings report that Portland is aggressively pursuing Brown, a

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Speaker 1: player they have coveted since Dame's first tenure with the franchise. Now,

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Speaker 1: there are a lot of angles we can go with

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Speaker 1: Jail and Brown here, and we'll get to the whole

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Speaker 1: analytics part as well. He was angry on Twitter this weekend.

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Speaker 1: But the Trailblazers aggressively pursuing Jail and Brown? How many

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Speaker 1: buckets a slop?

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Speaker 2: I'm giving it two buckets a slop because I don't

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Speaker 2: think these two teams see eye to eye on the package. Okay,

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Speaker 2: I understand Portland's going to go after them, but Boston

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Speaker 2: wants to win now, So that would mean that Portland's

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Speaker 2: going to give up a good player. I don't know

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Speaker 2: if Portland is willing to do that. I went through

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Speaker 2: the packages that Boston would actually accept and actually work.

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Speaker 2: Thanks spot Track for this. So these are the levels here,

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Speaker 2: Denny and Drew, Denny Avdia and Drew Holliday. That would

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Speaker 2: be a package that Boston would accept. But Denny Avdya

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Speaker 2: is not being traded from the Portland Trail Blazers according

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Speaker 2: to rumors, and I totally believe that he's off the table. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And then here's a second level of package that I

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Speaker 2: do believe Boston would accept, Donovan Klingen along with Drew

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Speaker 2: and Scoot Henderson. That would work for Jalen Brown just

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Speaker 2: straight up no picks, But apparently the Blazers don't want

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Speaker 2: to include Donovan Klingen, right, I believe that as well.

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Speaker 2: Tom Dunnan's got a new team. I think that would

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Speaker 2: make sense. Now Boston would come back and say, okay, okay,

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Speaker 2: how about how about let's lower it a little bit,

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Speaker 2: how about Klingon, Jeremy Grant and Scoot Henderson. And then

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Speaker 2: still I think the Blazers say, no, let me get

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Speaker 2: to another level that we can start talking about. I

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Speaker 2: think on both sides, Jeremy Grant, Scoot Henderson and Tamani Kamorrow.

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Speaker 2: Maybe there's the pick swaps that they own for the

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Speaker 2: Milwaukee Bucks, which are juicy in twenty nine and thirty.

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Speaker 2: You can basically get the Bucks trade or the Bucks

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Speaker 2: draft pick. That's where I think we're talking about a trade,

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Speaker 2: but I just don't know if the Celtics are willing

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Speaker 2: to go that low. You go back and you look

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Speaker 2: at Jalen Brown's rumors over the years, it's always for

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Speaker 2: a really good player. We're talking cream of the crop.

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Speaker 2: It's Kevin Durant, it's Jansey to Gumbo. So when we're

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Speaker 2: talking about the Blazers, Denny is the start. They're going

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Speaker 2: has to work. I just don't see it working now.

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Speaker 2: The Blazers are going to be talking. It's Jalen Brown.

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Speaker 2: I understand that, but I don't know what the Blazers

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Speaker 2: come in and do here. I think I think they're

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Speaker 2: trying to find a good deal. You know, Tom Dundan

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Speaker 2: made his money off sub prime auto loans and the

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Speaker 2: Celtics got too good a credit for that. I think

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Speaker 2: the bargaining may happen here, but you think they're doing it.

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Speaker 2: I think the picks obviously is a part of it.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I think the picks is a huge part of it.

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Speaker 1: I think any deal with Portland is centered around draft capital.

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Speaker 2: Well, here's players here.

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Speaker 1: There's young prospects as you went through. Klingon would be

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Speaker 1: the big hold up. I mean, the Celtics are going

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Speaker 1: to ask for him, whether the Blazers are like we

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Speaker 1: sort of thought he's our center of the future here.

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Speaker 1: We'd love to hold on to him. But there is

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Speaker 1: Scoot Henderson, They're short and sharp to Manti Kamara. There's

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Speaker 1: like good younger players here. In addition to all this

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Speaker 1: draft capital, they have all their own first round picks,

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Speaker 1: they have unprotected picks from the Bucks, Magic and Celtics,

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Speaker 1: and they also have valuable pick swaps from the Bucks

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Speaker 1: in twenty eight and thirty. So you can put together

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Speaker 1: a lot of draft capital to sort of take a

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Speaker 1: stab here at Jalen Brown. If I'm the Blazers, I'm

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Speaker 1: probably trading let's say three first round picks again, some

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Speaker 1: of them not yours, Grant because of his contract for

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Speaker 1: salary matching purposes thirty four million, and let's say Shade

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Speaker 1: and Sharp. I'd do that in a nanosecond, right instantly,

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Speaker 1: if from Portland for Jalen Brown. But am I having

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Speaker 1: more of a conversation. If it's three first round picks,

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Speaker 1: it's Grant, it's Sharp, it's clinging for Jalen Brown and

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Speaker 1: my cater or something like that. Whoever else has to

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Speaker 1: come back. Yeah, okay, then I'm probably still doing it.

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Speaker 2: You're getting rid of. Clinging is sort of a hang

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Speaker 2: up with the players wise. I think that's what it

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Speaker 2: Jalen Brown, so you have to have a big contract

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Speaker 2: Don Van Klingen to throw along with that player because

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Speaker 2: the Celtics, why I lack in slops here is because

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Speaker 2: that they they need to win this whole Jalen Brown,

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Speaker 2: incredible player top six in MVP voting, is not just

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Speaker 2: going to be thrown away for some good picks down

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Speaker 2: the road. In my opinion, there needs to be a really,

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Speaker 2: really really good player, and it's not Jeremy Grant, it's

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Speaker 2: not Scoot Henderson, it's not Shade and Sharp in my opinion,

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Speaker 2: Donovankling and it can be the hang up as long

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Speaker 2: as those are juicy picks behind him, because as I said,

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Speaker 2: they've only wanted to trade for top fifty players of

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Speaker 2: all time or top twenty players of all time, I

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Speaker 2: should say, and Durant and Yannistana Google.

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Speaker 1: You don't think Jeremy Grant is that? Yeah, that's fair.

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Speaker 2: It's if it's literally if it's Grant Sharp and to

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Speaker 2: Money Kamara or more more likely Grant Scoot and Too

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Speaker 2: Money Kamara. I don't think it happens for the Boston Solf.

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Speaker 2: It's just how.

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Speaker 1: Desperately they want out of or whether how desperately they

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Speaker 1: want out of the jail and Brown business or Jayleen

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Speaker 1: Brown wants out of Boston Celtics business at this point. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's sort of what we got into here.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't think Jalen wants, but hey,

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Speaker 2: that's I just disagree one with that, but we'll see.

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Speaker 1: Michael Scotto says Brown has drawn trade interest from various

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Speaker 1: teams here across the league, as some of us expected.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if this guy is on the trade block,

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Speaker 1: there are so many teams lining up for him. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: the Raptors, I mean they're sort of linked to every

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that makes sense.

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Speaker 1: The Nuggets, I'd like to dissect with you. That's the Hornets,

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Speaker 1: the Hawks, the Clippers. There's been a ton of teams here. Again,

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Speaker 1: that's Scotto slop with Jalen Brown. Scotto Slappoh, Bill Simmons,

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Speaker 1: I heard with Zach Lowe yesterday, I guess or last

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Speaker 1: night saying Celtics Nuggets Jaalen Brown to Denver.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that one's good.

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Speaker 1: Let's say Jamal Murray and Cam Johnson for Jalen Brown

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Speaker 1: and Sam Hauser.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I do think so you like that one more.

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Speaker 1: It sounds like from what both sides.

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Speaker 2: Well again, and I think the Celtics need a player desperately.

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Speaker 2: I don't think this is just about picks. I think

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Speaker 2: Brad Stevens is here to win, and so Jamal Murray

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Speaker 2: coming back. Yeah, we're talking about Jamal Murray and Derek

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Speaker 2: White backcourt with Tatum and the guys that they've still retained,

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Speaker 2: you know, the shireman beside him, that type of thing.

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Speaker 2: Depending on what the Blazers are willing to do. I

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Speaker 2: think that makes a lot of sense. I'm both and

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Speaker 2: that the Nuggets may want to just mix it up.

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Speaker 2: But wow, you know, the Nuggets have a huge, a

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Speaker 2: huge job to do in bringing Peyton Watson back, and

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Speaker 2: so that may change things with Jayleen Brown because they're

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Speaker 2: going to pay a lot for Peyton Watson. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: the Nuggets may want to switch it up as well.

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Speaker 1: Aaron Gordon's name is on the trade block here as well.

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Speaker 1: Maybe he's involved in some sort of trade.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, older getting hurt unfortunately the last couple of seasons

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Speaker 2: with the hamstrings. So I wonder what the Celtics are

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Speaker 1: And we talked before about the Nuggets like, Okay, maybe

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Speaker 1: it's Aaron Gordon, but it's more likely they're trying to

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Speaker 1: move Cam Johnson or they're trying to move Christian Brown

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Speaker 1: obviously signed the big deal.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, tough to do.

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Speaker 1: Maybe you get to the point where you have to

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Speaker 1: trade a player of Jamal Murray's to get obviously a good,

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Speaker 1: good player in Jaylen Brown. But man, with that changed

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Speaker 1: the Nuggets and how they play. The Nuggets are Jamal

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Speaker 1: Murray and you'll get pick and roll Like now, that's

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Speaker 1: just a completely different offense. This is the best, one

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Speaker 1: of the best offenses we've seen in the NBA when

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Speaker 1: they're healthy and out there on the floor.

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Speaker 2: And Jamal Murray is coming off his best regular season

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Speaker 2: of his career, so this would be one hell.

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Speaker 1: Of a switch up. And you start going, what's going

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Speaker 1: on with all these teams. Everyone's like, you know, the

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Speaker 1: Minnesota Timberwolves have made a big move. Other squads are

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Speaker 1: like really shaking things up here. It's like, is it

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Speaker 1: a bit of keeping up with the Joneses? If this

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Speaker 1: is to go down Portland makes more sense and like, wow,

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Speaker 1: that's a top Wherever you have Jalen Brown, is he

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Speaker 1: He likes to tweet as well tasks. He fired back

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this random analytics person who said something to Bobby Marx,

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Speaker 2: No, what you're Yeah, what you're about to say is

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Speaker 2: But that's the media in twenty twenty six, as Bobby

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Speaker 2: That one comment where Bobby is just saying, hey, behind

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Speaker 1: Exactly. This is that's why this was hilarious and dumb

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Speaker 2: This game is looking good in the off season in China.

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Speaker 2: Watch the clip. He's in China.

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Speaker 2: Thee They can run this back. Now if if they're

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Speaker 2: they think about it. Sure, if you're gonna overwhelm us

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Speaker 1: He is drawing interest from several teams. According to the Athletic,

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Speaker 1: Another possible reunion would see Kawhi returning to Toronto.

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Speaker 2: I've been listening to all Kawhi interviews, and if there's

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Speaker 2: The only teams that Kawi would sign an extension with

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Speaker 1: We last I checked, we still have an investigation going

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Speaker 1: on into the allegation allegations that the Clippers circumvented the

431
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Speaker 1: salary cap to pay Kauai extra money. Right, we've never

432
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Speaker 1: got an answer on that. We're still waiting on that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I was waiting.

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Speaker 1: Sort of fascinating he could be traded, let's say before

435
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Speaker 1: that's resultd.

436
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Speaker 2: No, I personally think when they hit when they hit

437
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Speaker 2: the Clippers with a fee draft Picks. Whatever penalty it is,

438
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Speaker 2: it's the Clippers and it's not Kawhi. Yeah, okay, so

439
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Speaker 2: it does it matter? I don't think let's put.

440
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Speaker 1: It that way. It's still a little odd to me,

441
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Speaker 1: but it's okay, fair, fair, And is it even happening?

442
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Speaker 1: I mean we already had the draft, so they didn't

443
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Speaker 1: get inged on that draft obviously.

444
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Speaker 2: Right, what's going on? Yeah, it's unfortunate that it's taken

445
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Speaker 2: this long.

446
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Speaker 1: So you like you like this for the Raptors though,

447
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Speaker 1: you would do this.

448
00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:41,040
Speaker 2: Yeah. Ideally it's spreaded Ingram over Rgi Barrett as the

449
00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:47,080
Speaker 2: primary part. If it is Barred and Pertle, which money

450
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Speaker 2: wise makes sense. They are super thin up at center,

451
00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:53,639
Speaker 2: even though Colin Murray Boyles was an awesome backup center.

452
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Speaker 2: They would need to solidify that. And it's not Sandrew

453
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Speaker 2: Memukalisheely who may or may not be back. It's it's

454
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Speaker 2: somebody else. So yeah, I think that makes more sense

455
00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:12,040
Speaker 2: than the Spurs whatever, it's like Kellen Johnson, Devin Vessel

456
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Speaker 2: and Picks. I think that makes more sense. Yeah, I

457
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Speaker 2: think I would do it. I'd say, hey, Khi, come

458
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Speaker 2: on back. Wow. Yeah, they do need to take another

459
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Speaker 2: step up. We saw the limit they have offensively, even

460
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Speaker 2: though it was a seven game series, it was an

461
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Speaker 2: ugly one. They need to they need to have a

462
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Speaker 2: number one option. It is scary that he's thirty five today,

463
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Speaker 2: no doubt. But he had a healthy season.

464
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Speaker 1: Yeah, he hasn't played seventy plus games in over a decade.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So I don't that's the thing. How much are

466
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Speaker 2: you giving up? And I think the Raptors don't want

467
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Speaker 2: to give up a lot, but they may be bidding

468
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Speaker 2: against themselves. I don't know. I don't know what other

469
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Speaker 2: teams are well.

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Speaker 1: I mean the reports say Massai u Jeri versus Bobby Webster, Oh,

471
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Speaker 1: Jerry with the MAVs and obviously Bobby Webster and control

472
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Speaker 1: the Raptors now, which is very funny if this is true.

473
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Speaker 2: The sense and the student, Uh.

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Speaker 1: You don't seem all that impressed with a PJ. Washington,

475
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Speaker 1: Klay Thompson. And then and then the minimal draft capital

476
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Speaker 1: that even the MAVs have. They don't have a lot

477
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Speaker 1: of their draft future. They owe their twenty seven first

478
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Speaker 1: round pick to the Hornets unless it falls into the

479
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Speaker 1: top two, and they have zero control their twenty nine

480
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Speaker 1: first round pick and their twenty eight to thirty first

481
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Speaker 1: rounders are tied up in pick swaps.

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Speaker 2: Like, you don't sound com vincy, I'm not.

483
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Speaker 1: No, No, it's not a very good trade return.

484
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Like you can start to talk yourself into guys

485
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Speaker 2: that are down on the roster because Derek Lively has

486
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Speaker 2: been injured. Maybe he's part of the the pushback or

487
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Speaker 2: the package back, but doesn't do it for me. I think, Yeah,

488
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Speaker 2: the Raptors have all their picks, so I feel like

489
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Speaker 2: they're kind of biding against themselves. Maybe I'm wrong, and

490
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Speaker 2: the Spurs have a ton, you know, they're draft picks

491
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Speaker 2: that they just made. They have a ton to trade,

492
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Speaker 2: so maybe I'm wrong. Maybe Buford says all right to

493
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Speaker 2: bring him back. For the thing is I feel like

494
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Speaker 2: Wemby in that team is more like like the thunder Lot.

495
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Speaker 2: Let's long play it. Let's just go back with what

496
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Speaker 2: we have. We were winning in what was it, seventy

497
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Speaker 2: four percent of the minutes in the NBA Finals, and

498
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Speaker 2: we're gonna switch it up like that. I think we

499
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Speaker 2: just got to grow internally. I think that makes more sense.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, But what I love about him going to the

501
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Speaker 1: Spurs is it It's more reminiscent to me of him

502
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Speaker 1: going and getting traded to the Raptors the first time

503
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Speaker 1: in twenty nineteen, where it's like they were an elite team.

504
00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:33,359
Speaker 1: The Raptors were really good and then added Quiet a

505
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Speaker 1: level up. He only played sixty games that regular season.

506
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Speaker 1: It didn't matter. They were still awesome without him out there.

507
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Speaker 1: They were a veteran team. Now it's different, obviously than

508
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Speaker 1: the Spurs. They're a young team. He'd be the that

509
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Speaker 1: guy coming in here. But the idea is like, hey man,

510
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Speaker 1: we just need you in the playoffs. Just like you

511
00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:50,040
Speaker 1: could slow play them. You don't need to have heavy

512
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Speaker 1: minutes on them. And then it's just for the playoff series.

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Speaker 1: I see we're saying get us a bucket. He I

514
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Speaker 1: mean we saw it work.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, he came and enjoying six Pascal Siakam and

516
00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:03,040
Speaker 2: Kyle Lowry and it was a good team. But they

517
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Speaker 2: weren't as good as the Spurs were this past seal.

518
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Speaker 2: I mean they got to go, yeah, but that the

519
00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:12,480
Speaker 2: Spurs were so close. The Raptors never smelled an NBA finals.

520
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Speaker 2: They were damn close. So I don't know what would

521
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Speaker 2: they'd have to give up some pieces too. I mean,

522
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Speaker 2: it's not like, hey, it's a free agent that would

523
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Speaker 2: just come in and join us and then would disappear

524
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Speaker 2: for a year or after a year, I should say so.

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Speaker 2: I think the Raptors are being against themselves if Kuhi

526
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Speaker 2: doesn't want to be in La anymore, because that's that's

527
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Speaker 2: the real part here. Yeah, does he still want to

528
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Speaker 2: stay hometown? Maybe not?

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Speaker 1: This made me laugh. Trill bro Dude tweeted yesterday sarcastically,

530
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Speaker 1: which definitely went over some people's heads. Quote. I can't

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Speaker 1: imagine Qaui getting traded to the Raptors with one year

532
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Speaker 1: left on his deal. What would they even trade a

533
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Speaker 1: ceiling capping mid range heavy wings scorer Yaka Perle in

534
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Speaker 1: a pick. That is a very good tweet because that's

535
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Speaker 1: exactly what they traded the time back in twenty nineteen.

536
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Speaker 1: Obviously brandon Ingram would be instead of Tomato Rosen Perdl. Yes,

537
00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:11,680
Speaker 1: was the same piece and then the pick. Pretty funny

538
00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:15,480
Speaker 1: that they could just do it again. Promise like they're

539
00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:17,960
Speaker 1: on an upward trajectory here, but they are again the

540
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Speaker 1: Raptors where they are now currently constructed. I was like,

541
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Speaker 1: just not like that team exactly exactly, which is a

542
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Speaker 1: huge difference.

543
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Speaker 2: And that was that.

544
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Speaker 1: And here's a big difference too. Now he's older, so

545
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Speaker 1: I get that, but Kawhi at that time that was

546
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Speaker 1: like injured Kawhi frustration with the Spurs front office, how

547
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Speaker 1: they were managing him and all that, like it was

548
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:40,439
Speaker 1: like you were buying low. Yeah, he's coming off one

549
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:43,000
Speaker 1: of his best seasons he's ever had. I mean, the

550
00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:45,440
Speaker 1: statistical output he just had is unreal. His second team

551
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Speaker 1: All NBA is very, very good last year.

552
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Speaker 2: So why aren't their juicy rumors out there other than

553
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Speaker 2: this there' he's.

554
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Speaker 1: Thirty five one, Yeah, he never plays a full season

555
00:26:57,160 --> 00:27:00,920
Speaker 1: two and he has the power of like this idea

556
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:03,240
Speaker 1: of the contract extension like Giannis did, where he's like,

557
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:04,639
Speaker 1: like there's been a lot of talk of like Detroit

558
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:05,640
Speaker 1: Pistons could use him.

559
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:07,600
Speaker 2: Of course, and he's like, I'm not gonna sign. I'm

560
00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:09,520
Speaker 2: not signing, So like then you're not training anything. It'd

561
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:12,040
Speaker 2: be silly to do that. I'm only signing an extension.

562
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:17,159
Speaker 2: According to Sham's reports, with Toronto and the Spurs two teams,

563
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:20,879
Speaker 2: so that that's that's a big part of it. In

564
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:23,600
Speaker 2: comparison to Jaylen Brown who signed for a long long time.

565
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Speaker 1: Yeah, uh, next one here. Appearing on ESPN Radio late

566
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:31,200
Speaker 1: last week, Brian Windhorst described Jahn Morant as flagrantly available

567
00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:33,520
Speaker 1: in trade talks. That's how Windy put it. So the

568
00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:38,000
Speaker 1: Grizzlies are determined to move John Morant, who Windhorse says

569
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:42,040
Speaker 1: he can't see playing for the organization ever again. And

570
00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:44,760
Speaker 1: this echoes a lot of sentiments from other reporters too,

571
00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:47,080
Speaker 1: like we are not going to see John Morant in

572
00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:49,440
Speaker 1: a Grizzlies uniform again. But how many buckets a slop

573
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:53,760
Speaker 1: does tastmells put on? Jahn Morant flagrantly available.

574
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Speaker 2: Fill up the buckets, all of them. I think it's five.

575
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Speaker 2: I think I think it's time. This is a different team.

576
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:03,640
Speaker 2: This is a cam Boozer Cedric Coward now Isaiah Stewart

577
00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:07,720
Speaker 2: in the lineup. They are looking to have a different

578
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:11,080
Speaker 2: identity and starting with those guys, and I think you'll

579
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:14,800
Speaker 2: see at the point guard spot along with Scottie Pippen Jr.

580
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:18,240
Speaker 2: Walter Clayton to give them a shot. I think this

581
00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:22,800
Speaker 2: is definitely the team the time I should say that's

582
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:24,680
Speaker 2: it's it's ready to get rid of them.

583
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Speaker 1: I love who is the question?

584
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:30,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is. I love who. Yeah, this is the problem.

585
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:34,120
Speaker 2: Well what about It's it's a reach now after getting

586
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:37,320
Speaker 2: out to the Goombo, But the Miami Heat sort of

587
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 2: makes sense. It's it's a reach for sure.

588
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:41,640
Speaker 1: But when you they need a point.

589
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:44,400
Speaker 2: Guard, you specifically thought, I guess this was four or

590
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Speaker 2: five months ago. Jrum Range just needs new place. Yeah,

591
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:50,920
Speaker 2: and Miami was at that time when they were looking

592
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Speaker 2: for a star the team. So the rumored package would

593
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Speaker 2: be jum Morant going to Miami with the possibility of

594
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Speaker 2: them having to throw in a draft pick to get

595
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:07,080
Speaker 2: off of John Morant for you know, just straight up

596
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:10,040
Speaker 2: money wise. It would work with Andrew Wiggins when he

597
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:13,840
Speaker 2: opts in today because we're waiting for the deadline for

598
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,760
Speaker 2: player options. Andrew Wiggins has a player option, don't worry.

599
00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:19,320
Speaker 2: I checked, he has an option. And Davion Mitchell. So

600
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:22,480
Speaker 2: it's Wiggins and Mitchell from Rant and a pick. Do

601
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:26,240
Speaker 2: you start to look at the Miami Heat and say, okay, okay,

602
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:30,280
Speaker 2: I think that John Morant can excel in that organization.

603
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Speaker 1: It's I think I would do it if I'm them,

604
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:38,320
Speaker 1: and I'm eighty year old pat Riley. For sure, because

605
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 1: your whole thing is obviously trying to take you know,

606
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:44,520
Speaker 1: big swings, a big talent, and yeah, he's he's being

607
00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:46,240
Speaker 1: sold very low to the point where you might have

608
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Speaker 1: to attach a draft pick. That sounds insane to me still,

609
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:50,280
Speaker 1: but I get it just to get off them. If

610
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Speaker 1: you're Memphis, big part is the Wiggins player option. TVD

611
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 1: is still on that, but yeah, I would be doing

612
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Speaker 1: that because I'm not ready to give up on John Morant.

613
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:03,040
Speaker 1: I'm on record saying that. And I don't love the

614
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:05,280
Speaker 1: shooting that you'd have on the Miami team because there

615
00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:07,960
Speaker 1: wouldn't be a lot of problem because you've got Joannison Bam.

616
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:09,600
Speaker 1: We already got to figure out that problem. Now you've

617
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Speaker 1: got a point guard that is not a high volume

618
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Speaker 1: three point shooter.

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Speaker 2: And they just don't have any depth. Yeah. Yeah, So

620
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Speaker 2: even trading guys like David Mitchell, who's their starting point

621
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Speaker 2: guard and would be great defensively along with Wagans, that's

622
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Speaker 2: two pieces. Yeah, so that is a worry. I've Yeah,

623
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Speaker 2: I've scoured to see my spot track trade machine. Who

624
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:32,960
Speaker 2: else would be able to take on John Rant. Ain't

625
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 2: a lot of options out there, no.

626
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Speaker 1: Because you look around the rest of the league. Yeah,

627
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:39,000
Speaker 1: it's like, how many need a starting point guard? I

628
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:42,640
Speaker 1: mean some did, but then they had the draft and

629
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Speaker 1: a lot of them had picks that were high enough

630
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Speaker 1: to take a take a point guard that you would

631
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Speaker 1: think is their point guard of the future. The Kings

632
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:51,560
Speaker 1: just drafted a Cuff, The Hawks drafted our guy, Kingston Flemings,

633
00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:56,240
Speaker 1: the Nets drafted MIKEL Brown Junior. It's like you start

634
00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:59,480
Speaker 1: running out of teams that could realistically use John Morant

635
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,480
Speaker 1: at the position. I mean, what about the Raptors to

636
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:04,880
Speaker 1: go back to them, and they are rumored to be interested.

637
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 1: I mean, Bobby Webster's got his name in every he

638
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:12,080
Speaker 1: had here, you know quickly is their point guard? Would

639
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:14,440
Speaker 1: you like John Moran? That's another team that needs shooting though,

640
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:16,760
Speaker 1: and this is where he does not flourish.

641
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, what's the package coming back from the Raptors. I

642
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:22,880
Speaker 2: think that's another fair question with as I mentioned those

643
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:26,040
Speaker 2: names for the Grizzlies taking them to a new era

644
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:30,640
Speaker 2: Boozer and Cedric Cower now Isaiah Stewart, and they still

645
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:36,360
Speaker 2: have vel Dama. I don't know what they want would

646
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 2: get back from the Raptors, to be honest, Why would

647
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:42,560
Speaker 2: they take quickly? They wouldn't. I don't. I don't think

648
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 2: the Grizzlies would take quickly at this time. He's not

649
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:48,320
Speaker 2: a great contract right now. Unfortunately, Quick's guy to get

650
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:50,520
Speaker 2: back with a good team, like have a Kawhi out there,

651
00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:53,040
Speaker 2: they'll see how good he looks with uh with Kawhi.

652
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:56,400
Speaker 2: But this Miami Heat one seems to make the most sense.

653
00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:59,040
Speaker 2: But maybe there's a third team involved as well, so

654
00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 2: the Heat don't have to give up two pieces.

655
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 1: Well, I was just going to say that now I

656
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 1: don't have the Heat in this three team deal. But

657
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:05,640
Speaker 1: to go back to the jail and Brown of it

658
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:07,560
Speaker 1: all going to Portland, you could get to like a

659
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 1: three team sort of package where Jalen Brown goes to Portland. Yeah,

660
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:14,000
Speaker 1: Jeremy Grant and then some young guys be it Scoot

661
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 1: Henderson or something like that to Memphis, John Morant Hendrix,

662
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 1: and then a bunch of draft capital to Boston. Now

663
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:25,720
Speaker 1: that's John Morant going to the Boston Celtics. Now you

664
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:27,600
Speaker 1: might roll your eyes out. That may not love that.

665
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:31,240
Speaker 1: I mean he does when healthy, obviously, can put pressure

666
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:33,160
Speaker 1: on a rim and get into the paint. Again, He's

667
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 1: not a great three point shooter, but he does do

668
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:37,000
Speaker 1: the other things. So I don't know. That's one on framework.

669
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:38,120
Speaker 1: I saw a three team deal.

670
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:41,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I saw that too. Wasn't super excited about that

671
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:45,120
Speaker 2: because also Jo Morant is great when he plays, he

672
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 2: doesn't play a lot unfortunately recently. You only played twenty

673
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:51,240
Speaker 2: games this season, and I know they kept him out

674
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 2: for some time because they said, okay, what's the point

675
00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 2: we don't also may not want you back in that

676
00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:01,520
Speaker 2: locker room, but he gets injured, and so I don't

677
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:03,040
Speaker 2: know if the Celtics would be wanting to do that

678
00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:07,480
Speaker 2: because they also want Tatum and Peyton Purtrude when he's

679
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:09,920
Speaker 2: out there, and Derek White to some degree in Jaln

680
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:12,000
Speaker 2: Brown if he comes back handling the ball, and jaws

681
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:14,040
Speaker 2: Jah can't be part of that. So I don't know.

682
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 2: I don't see that. I saw that and I did that.

683
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 2: Didn't get excited me either.

684
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:19,400
Speaker 1: I don't cay, Okay, yeah, this is crazy. I'm just

685
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 1: thinking back, like I don't know when it was months

686
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 1: ago for sure, but like we would have debates about

687
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 1: rankum or like who do you think is the best

688
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:32,040
Speaker 1: of Ja Morant, Trey Young and LaMelo Ball remember doing this. Yeah,

689
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:35,680
Speaker 1: and well, and when Jo Moran is eventually traded here,

690
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:37,400
Speaker 1: because I do believe he is going to be moved.

691
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:40,760
Speaker 1: All three guys having been dealt like within a calendar

692
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:42,840
Speaker 1: year there, Trey Young last year, and then obviously LaMelo

693
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:44,120
Speaker 1: Ball recently, and now John Moran.

694
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:44,680
Speaker 2: It's crazy.

695
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 1: It is crazy, all three teams electing to move off them.

696
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:52,120
Speaker 2: Yeah and yeah, if I'm remembering quickly, I thought correctly.

697
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 2: I thought it was Trey as the best player of

698
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:58,080
Speaker 2: the three, and he just got paid. When you look

699
00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 2: at that, we were talking about which one would you

700
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 2: rather have? Well, the guy who got paid was Toray

701
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:07,600
Speaker 2: Young with a montrous, monstrous contract, which was surprising.

702
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:12,600
Speaker 1: According to Jake Fisher of the Steinleine, the Pelicans are

703
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:16,280
Speaker 1: still listening to offers for Trey Murphy and Herb Jones. However,

704
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:20,560
Speaker 1: New Orleans isn't actively shopping them and they've rejected every

705
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:23,720
Speaker 1: offer to date. Okay, teams are calling them, they're picking

706
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 1: it up and they are listening, but they're not saying

707
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 1: much and then they're just hanging up. Additionally, the Pelicans asking

708
00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:35,719
Speaker 1: price for Murphy is reportedly three first round picks uh

709
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:39,200
Speaker 1: slop scale on the Pelicans seeking multiple first round picks

710
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:39,759
Speaker 1: for Trey Murphy.

711
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 2: The third multiple. I think this is high. I'm giving

712
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:47,719
Speaker 2: it four buckets a slop, now three picks. That's a lot.

713
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:49,440
Speaker 2: But Trey Murphy is a great player. I don't think

714
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:51,400
Speaker 2: it happens right now. I think they're still going to

715
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:53,440
Speaker 2: give it one more chance here to start the season,

716
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:59,360
Speaker 2: and then when it falls apart like it will, Zion,

717
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:01,719
Speaker 2: you fool me lastlast year. This year, I'm not going

718
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:03,480
Speaker 2: into the season thinking that you're going to do it.

719
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:05,760
Speaker 2: You still might lose three of your first six games

720
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 2: by thirty plus points like you did last year. After

721
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:11,320
Speaker 2: it falls apart, then I do believe trade Murphy becomes

722
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:14,480
Speaker 2: available because he's their best asset. You mentioned Herb Jones

723
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:18,760
Speaker 2: wouldn't get as much back. There's a Jonte Murray in there. Still,

724
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:22,240
Speaker 2: there's Jordan Poole and his expiring deal. There's a Zion,

725
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 2: but I think this guy would be the one to

726
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:29,760
Speaker 2: get you more picks, and then you start the rebuild

727
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:33,719
Speaker 2: with Derek Queen. Jeremiah Fears. Sadik Bay can get an

728
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:36,560
Speaker 2: extension this offseason. Interesting stuff. Even if he signs that.

729
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 2: I think Trey Murphy's the guy, So multiple picks, yeah,

730
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 2: I think so.

731
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:43,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, Koc says multiple teams have put two first round

732
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:46,440
Speaker 1: picks on the table for Murphy, but Pelican's GM Joe

733
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:50,400
Speaker 1: Dumars is pushing for three first at least in any discussion.

734
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:53,320
Speaker 1: They're just like, keep doing this thing, Like Trey Murphy.

735
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:55,359
Speaker 1: The third's been in trade rumors for a long time now,

736
00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 1: and they keep just doing this thing like if you wows,

737
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:01,680
Speaker 1: if you come over the top, then maybe we'll deal them.

738
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 1: Because I remember Stein reporting back in January that the

739
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:09,520
Speaker 1: Pelicans wanted the Desmond Bane type offer that took what

740
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:13,760
Speaker 1: four first round picks and a pick swap, So Tramerver

741
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 1: the third can be had, but it's just gonna would

742
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:17,360
Speaker 1: cost you a ton of draft capital. Now, I do

743
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:21,920
Speaker 1: wonder did the NBA's new lottery reform here change the

744
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 1: value of first round picks, Like that's the big sort

745
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:27,719
Speaker 1: of Like I'm not sure, because one thought is that

746
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:31,800
Speaker 1: general managers are likely to prize their own draft capital

747
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:36,120
Speaker 1: even more given like the wide variants to where those

748
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:38,400
Speaker 1: selections could land. But I guess you could flip that

749
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:41,440
Speaker 1: on his head and say the opposite could be true too, right,

750
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:43,480
Speaker 1: it's because of the wide variants. It's like, oh, we're

751
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:47,800
Speaker 1: more likely to sort of not willy nilly throw them around,

752
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:49,880
Speaker 1: but like to go get good players for sure, like

753
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 1: Tramerver the third Maybe you are I don't know, yeah,

754
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 1: sort of like we're gonna have to wait and see

755
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:54,319
Speaker 1: I think a little bit, but.

756
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:56,400
Speaker 2: I hear you. Yeah, it is a little bit of

757
00:36:56,200 --> 00:37:00,400
Speaker 2: a wait and see. But I do you think the

758
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:04,279
Speaker 2: Golden State Warriors, now we'll get to Draymond Green his

759
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 2: decision on a player option, will be willing to be

760
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 2: willy neely and deal the picks that they still have

761
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:16,719
Speaker 2: for a Trey Murphy. So finally support Steph with a

762
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:20,880
Speaker 2: guy who can shoot beside him. They need it, and

763
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:24,160
Speaker 2: so those picks, you know, I did my little trade machine.

764
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 2: They can work. But yeah, I think right now Joe

765
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:31,239
Speaker 2: Dumars in that front office, they're going to give it

766
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 2: a shot here one more time.

767
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 1: With Jimal mo Is a new head coach as well.

768
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:37,239
Speaker 1: So you've got that angle. Let's see what you can

769
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 1: get out of these guys.

770
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:40,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, and maybe Jonte Murray being there at the beginning

771
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 2: of the year on like last year when he came

772
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:46,160
Speaker 2: back from injury mid season or so maybe that's a

773
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:48,240
Speaker 2: different that's a different beast.

774
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:52,120
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe well, let's just get this Draymond news in here,

775
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 1: because there's a lot of rumors. So what's what the

776
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:57,359
Speaker 1: Warriors are maybe trying to do here too? Draymond Green

777
00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:00,479
Speaker 1: is declining his twenty seven point seven million dollars option

778
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 1: to become a free agent, and Trump says this move

779
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 1: gives the Warriors flexibility here to try and pursue Lebron

780
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:11,719
Speaker 1: James to pair up with Steph Curry and or I

781
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:15,000
Speaker 1: guess the idea of maybe trading for Anthony Davis. And

782
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:17,480
Speaker 1: also koc was writing about this over the weekend. Here

783
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:20,440
Speaker 1: a task So the Warriors, I guess, trying to put

784
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:24,959
Speaker 1: together a big four. That's the that's what they're going

785
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:28,040
Speaker 1: for here. I mean, if we were throwing on buckets

786
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:31,120
Speaker 1: a slop on this, what does Tesmelos do here? One

787
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:33,000
Speaker 1: bucket or five or somewhere in between?

788
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 2: Well, which part? There's so many I know, there's so

789
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:39,960
Speaker 2: many to fill. I mean, it's Anthony Davis and it's

790
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:45,400
Speaker 2: Lebron one or the other. It's pretty high for Lebron. Okay, five,

791
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 2: they want him. And I still think that there's a

792
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:52,920
Speaker 2: very good chance that he goes and takes less money

793
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:57,760
Speaker 2: and or just leaves Los Angeles for Goldstad or Cleveland.

794
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:01,680
Speaker 2: So that one's high. Anthony Davis one, that's different. I mean,

795
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 2: that's that's a guy who's under contract. Lebron's a free agent,

796
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:07,359
Speaker 2: so the guy.

797
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:10,440
Speaker 1: So they're trading Jimmy Butler in this that's the.

798
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:16,399
Speaker 2: Weird one, right, Yeah, Off off to spot track. I go, Yeah,

799
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:20,600
Speaker 2: it feels I don't know, Well, they have nothing else.

800
00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:22,439
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, let's put Jemski back.

801
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:28,479
Speaker 2: He currently makes five points seven trillion dollars.

802
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:28,759
Speaker 1: Going to get paid a little bit more.

803
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:32,239
Speaker 2: Actually, I think they can extend him. If I'm not,

804
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 2: you can sign a qualifying offer at eight point sixty six.

805
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 2: They can sign him to another contract. I guess could

806
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:42,960
Speaker 2: be a sign in trade to get But do they

807
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:44,560
Speaker 2: have the parts? Do they have the pieces?

808
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:52,480
Speaker 1: Steph Draymond, Lebron and Anthony Davis? Where's that finishing in

809
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:53,719
Speaker 1: the Western Conference?

810
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 2: Yeah? It sucks because they're old and bring back al

811
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:02,960
Speaker 2: Horrford and apparently they want to bring craft being bring

812
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:06,440
Speaker 2: back Chriss. Yeah, I mean there's some young guys on

813
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:10,800
Speaker 2: that team, but where are they finishing man, that's just uh,

814
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:14,640
Speaker 2: can they can they finish top four? Am I missing something? Yeah?

815
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 1: I mean that would be great.

816
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:19,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is insane.

817
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:22,279
Speaker 1: This sounds insane, but the NBA is so crazy.

818
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:26,239
Speaker 2: That Yeah, the weird thing happened the Anthony Davis part.

819
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:30,279
Speaker 2: Making fifty eight this year and then sixty two the

820
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:36,359
Speaker 2: next year as a player option. That's a lot. Yeah,

821
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:39,360
Speaker 2: the money wise, So you're trading Jimmy, I think you

822
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:43,960
Speaker 2: have to Steph dre Bron and Anthony Davis.

823
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:47,719
Speaker 1: Because when is Jimmy even like scheduled to be back.

824
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:50,200
Speaker 1: He's not the start of the season. No, no, no, no,

825
00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:53,400
Speaker 1: he's even Yeah, I mean he maybe maybe later. This

826
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:55,560
Speaker 1: is gonna be like a Tatum situation, is that we're sort.

827
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:57,360
Speaker 2: Of looking at Yeah. I didn't think you're hoping.

828
00:40:57,440 --> 00:40:58,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe not that late.

829
00:40:58,560 --> 00:40:59,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think it's that long.

830
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:02,279
Speaker 1: All right, we'll wait on this one. We'll have a

831
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:04,799
Speaker 1: show of course tomorrow to we plan on doing a

832
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:08,120
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833
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:10,439
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834
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 1: or so. We did that last year. It worked out

835
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:14,480
Speaker 1: pretty well, so it we'll do that. But let'll just

836
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:17,920
Speaker 1: for now the lebron and the ad and the warriors

837
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:19,799
Speaker 1: of it all will just set to the side. We'll

838
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 1: tell you a quick break and then we'll get into

839
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:25,280
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854
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:15,440
Speaker 2: this summer on FanDuel.

855
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:18,000
Speaker 1: Let there be at least one goal for Canada. It's

856
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 1: all it took late extra time. It wasn't the prettiest

857
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:24,480
Speaker 1: soccer game I've ever watched. I'll be honest, even as

858
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:27,759
Speaker 1: a diehard Canadian the ball fan, it was you know,

859
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:29,960
Speaker 1: they all played them. I think it was a deserved win. Yeah,

860
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 1: I agree, but it just wasn't the sexiest game. No,

861
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:34,800
Speaker 1: even the goal, not that there was.

862
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 2: Okay, it was a giveaway, well I could giveaway no, No,

863
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 2: directly to your Stacio.

864
00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:41,719
Speaker 1: I was sort of dreading those thirty more minutes of

865
00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 1: that those two teams because they were looking like they

866
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:46,360
Speaker 1: were exhausted by the end two and there was not

867
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 1: a lot going on.

868
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:50,360
Speaker 2: So they have a penalty kicks World Cup penalty kicks,

869
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:53,839
Speaker 2: Like even if you didn't want that, people like that, I.

870
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 1: Like, have you heard the crazy idea about that? By

871
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:58,480
Speaker 1: the way, what because they say once it does get

872
00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:00,680
Speaker 1: the extra time, like the teams do sort of like

873
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:03,239
Speaker 1: nobody wants to make a mistake. Yeah, so they play

874
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:05,840
Speaker 1: fairly reserved. There's a lot of just thirty minutes of

875
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:07,120
Speaker 1: extra soccer played and not.

876
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 2: A lot of like goals scored.

877
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:11,279
Speaker 1: Sure, I'm sure like the statistics back it up, but

878
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:16,799
Speaker 1: people say, you end regulation it's obviously a tie you

879
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:19,920
Speaker 1: then go right to penalty kicks. Okay, hear me out.

880
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:25,480
Speaker 1: Then whoever wins said penalty kicks is up a goal

881
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:28,239
Speaker 1: in the extra time, So it puts the pressure on

882
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:30,920
Speaker 1: the team that is trailing to go balls to the

883
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:33,120
Speaker 1: wall to try and obviously tie it back up. Now,

884
00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:34,600
Speaker 1: I don't know what happens when they just tie it

885
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 1: back up again. What do we do again? Just go

886
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:38,719
Speaker 1: back to the penalty kicks? I'm not sure. Sound we

887
00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:39,480
Speaker 1: were talking about this?

888
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:42,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, extra time definitely sounds more fun that crazy.

889
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:45,040
Speaker 1: Yeah I know, I know, but also be very weird.

890
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:50,879
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, what you do after that? But hell, it's

891
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:53,440
Speaker 2: better I do. Yeah, there's a little bit of a

892
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:55,840
Speaker 2: prevent offense they play right, Yes.

893
00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:58,879
Speaker 1: Exactly, exactly. Well. I knew Canada was winning yesterday because

894
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:02,400
Speaker 1: we had my buddy, your buddy already, Grisha in attendance

895
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 1: so far, Maddy Austin, Maddy, Oh himself in the building,

896
00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:12,439
Speaker 1: really John John the phenomenon. And then when I really

897
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:14,960
Speaker 1: knew we were winning, Ben Gulliver sent me a photo

898
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:20,040
Speaker 1: in the building rock in the Canada kit honorary Canadian

899
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:22,280
Speaker 1: Ben Gulliver for the day. I was like, we're winning.

900
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 2: What a shock.

901
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:24,480
Speaker 1: We got those fourid attendants.

902
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:27,200
Speaker 2: Who's the most shocking that would be there? I think

903
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:28,120
Speaker 2: it's Maddie Austin.

904
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:30,560
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I mean Grish and John John were in

905
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:32,920
Speaker 1: La met up for dinner. You know, Dave, He's like, oh,

906
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:34,480
Speaker 1: we gotta get tickets, we gotta get tickets.

907
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:39,000
Speaker 2: So they got Mattio to go yeah, oh silly. Yeah,

908
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:42,360
Speaker 2: So he didn't like, he didn't actually go seek tickets.

909
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:47,160
Speaker 2: He's just like, yeah, yeah, he paid for it. Cool.

910
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 1: It was still pretty penny to get into the buildings

911
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:51,880
Speaker 1: they were up top. But that was a beautiful stadium too.

912
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:54,600
Speaker 2: That's awesome. Yeah yeah. I like the low angle shots

913
00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:56,680
Speaker 2: after the game where you looks amazing.

914
00:44:57,320 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 1: Cool. All right, let's get to this tray. On Sunday,

915
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:05,280
Speaker 1: the Charlotte Hornets agreed to trade Miles Bridges, a twenty

916
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:07,720
Speaker 1: twenty nine first round pick and a twenty twenty seven

917
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:11,040
Speaker 1: second round pick to the Phoenix Suns in exchange for

918
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:14,840
Speaker 1: Grayson Allen Royce O'Neill and a two thousand and thirty

919
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:20,759
Speaker 1: three first round pick. Tasks your reaction to this one.

920
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:24,240
Speaker 1: Bridges go into Phoenix where we all assume he will

921
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:27,239
Speaker 1: sign an extension. I'm not sure why you're trading a

922
00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:29,960
Speaker 1: two thousand and thirty three unprotected pick to not eventually

923
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:31,279
Speaker 1: do that, but he's got one year left.

924
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:33,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, what do you think about this? I think the

925
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:38,919
Speaker 2: Hornets win this pick. Yeah, trade, no trade, excuse me? Yeah.

926
00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:41,319
Speaker 2: From the Sun's perspective, they get out of money. There's

927
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:45,000
Speaker 2: two years left on both Grayson Allen and Royce O'Neill's contract.

928
00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:47,960
Speaker 2: They're done with that, so.

929
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:49,600
Speaker 1: They get out of that money to then only give

930
00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 1: money to Miles Bridges.

931
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:54,799
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, they have a lot of Yeah, yeah, that's

932
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:56,719
Speaker 2: I definitely think the Charltt Hornets win it. They have

933
00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:59,239
Speaker 2: a lot of sort of in Phoenix, a lot of

934
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 2: standard average players, you know, they they want to try

935
00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:06,799
Speaker 2: and get a little bit better and in theory, you know,

936
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:11,440
Speaker 2: as far as players go, getting Miles Bridges over Grayson

937
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:14,440
Speaker 2: Allen and Royce O'Neil takes them there. But the Hornet's

938
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:18,240
Speaker 2: got a better pick in this, the unprotected pick. While

939
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:22,399
Speaker 2: there's that they sent to Phoenix. Some deal in here.

940
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:24,719
Speaker 2: That twenty twenty nine first round pick that they sent

941
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:27,960
Speaker 2: to Phoenix is the least favorable of the Jazz, Timberwolves

942
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:33,920
Speaker 2: or Cavaliers. So the pick that Charlotte gets again unprotected.

943
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:36,600
Speaker 2: Way better they get out of the guy that they

944
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:41,239
Speaker 2: didn't want in Bridges because they've moved on. They've gone

945
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:44,399
Speaker 2: to a different team after Lamellow and Bridges, they've gone

946
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:46,799
Speaker 2: to this team. Look at this team that they have here,

947
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:51,400
Speaker 2: Kobe White, Konkin Nipple, Brandon Miller, Nasried and Mussa Diabate

948
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:54,840
Speaker 2: as your starters. Sure their bench now Trey Man, Sion,

949
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:57,480
Speaker 2: James Grayson, Allen Royce O'Neil and then young guys like

950
00:46:57,520 --> 00:47:00,640
Speaker 2: Calc Brenner, Liam McNeely and Hannes stein Bok that they

951
00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:03,760
Speaker 2: just drafted pretty solid.

952
00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:06,080
Speaker 1: Solid Yeah, and they have a lot of draft capital too.

953
00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:08,640
Speaker 2: It wouldn't be surprising if they're very very similar to

954
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:10,680
Speaker 2: last year even without LaMelo. They should be a five

955
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:13,719
Speaker 2: hundred team. There's they I mentioned all that because of

956
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:17,040
Speaker 2: their depth and it's it feels like it's more of

957
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:19,239
Speaker 2: a modern NBA team because you want to, you know,

958
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:21,480
Speaker 2: like like the old Spurs, like the current Thunder. You

959
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:24,080
Speaker 2: want to roll out ten to eleven twelve guys. And this

960
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:26,320
Speaker 2: team was a really really good regular season team, finishing

961
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 2: at forty four and thirty eight. I think they can

962
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:31,640
Speaker 2: get there again. And as they'd say, forty four, but

963
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:33,520
Speaker 2: they got to be a five hundred team they should be.

964
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:35,640
Speaker 1: I think what happened here is the Hornets lined up

965
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:39,319
Speaker 1: their best players and they realized, we're about half. We're

966
00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:42,040
Speaker 1: going to have to pay Miles Bridges with a new

967
00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:45,719
Speaker 1: contract here soon and LaMelo with the new extension that

968
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:48,120
Speaker 1: obviously is around one hundred and twenty million dollars. And

969
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 1: they were like, f that, we'd rather go with kan

970
00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:53,759
Speaker 1: k Nipple and Brandon Miller as our best players and

971
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:55,839
Speaker 1: the framework to build this team around. And I think

972
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:58,480
Speaker 1: they made the right decision here. We'll see. I mean,

973
00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:00,560
Speaker 1: they just had a great year and they didn't make

974
00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:02,680
Speaker 1: the playoffs, but a really good year for them. But

975
00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:04,839
Speaker 1: that's what they're doing here. They're like, Ah, we don't

976
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:07,439
Speaker 1: want to have to pay those guys, and then look,

977
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:10,279
Speaker 1: we don't need to like dance around the situation here

978
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:13,279
Speaker 1: with Miles Bridges either. The guy missed significant time when

979
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 1: he faced domestic violence and child abuse charges in twenty

980
00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:20,920
Speaker 1: twenty two. He played a no contest to fell A

981
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:25,080
Speaker 1: Need domestic violence. I mean he assaulted his girlfriend in

982
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:27,319
Speaker 1: front of like two children. There was another incident as well.

983
00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:33,719
Speaker 1: He did something reprehensible. He was punished both criminally, I

984
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:36,200
Speaker 1: mean he had probation, he didn't go to jail, and

985
00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:38,840
Speaker 1: then by the league, right, he missed an entire season

986
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:42,000
Speaker 1: because of this, and then I guess he missed another

987
00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 1: was it ten games that rolled over in the next

988
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:46,400
Speaker 1: season because they gave him like a thirty game suspension,

989
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:48,319
Speaker 1: but they were like, well, you miss an entire season,

990
00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:49,560
Speaker 1: will count that as his twenty games, and then it

991
00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:52,279
Speaker 1: was another ten games the next year. Point is, it's

992
00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:54,920
Speaker 1: like up to you whether you think he deserves a second,

993
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:57,080
Speaker 1: third chance or whatever here and how you feel about it.

994
00:48:57,160 --> 00:48:58,600
Speaker 1: I know there are a lot of Suns fans going,

995
00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:01,160
Speaker 1: what why do we trade for this piece of shit?

996
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:05,760
Speaker 1: That's how they feel. Not everybody does. Again, people make mistakes.

997
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:08,080
Speaker 1: This is one of the worst I think you can make.

998
00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:10,799
Speaker 1: Whether you're fine with it, but then you can do

999
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:12,600
Speaker 1: what what about this guy? With a lot of guys

1000
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:15,200
Speaker 1: in this league and owners by the way, So that's

1001
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:18,120
Speaker 1: up to you. But I would not be happy I

1002
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:21,000
Speaker 1: of him fix Suns fan. So he's not very good either.

1003
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:22,600
Speaker 1: It's the other problem.

1004
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:27,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's enough basketball wise, he's an upgrade on Grayson

1005
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:31,120
Speaker 2: Allen and Royce O'Neil. That being said, you know, he said,

1006
00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:32,359
Speaker 2: one of the worst things you can do. He has

1007
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:35,480
Speaker 2: a disgusting act. Back then, it took the NBA, if

1008
00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:40,560
Speaker 2: I'm not mistaken, a while to enforce that suspension. It

1009
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:43,880
Speaker 2: was a we're waiting, We're waiting, We're waiting, and it

1010
00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:46,560
Speaker 2: sure feels like the Hornets are just moving on from

1011
00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:49,279
Speaker 2: him and from LaMelo Ball as he said, who was

1012
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:53,080
Speaker 2: signed to two more years. LaMelo had a contract and

1013
00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:55,960
Speaker 2: so it wasn't like it wasn't soon, you know, it

1014
00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:57,560
Speaker 2: wasn't as soon as Miles.

1015
00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:00,400
Speaker 1: But extension eligible though, is the problem here.

1016
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:02,759
Speaker 2: Right, just like Bridges will be Yeah three excuse me,

1017
00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:08,359
Speaker 2: Omelo's got three years left, right, So it's different. They

1018
00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:09,800
Speaker 2: wanted to move on from Miles Bridges.

1019
00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:12,279
Speaker 1: This is a different and the Sons have wanted this

1020
00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:15,440
Speaker 1: guy for a couple of years. It sounds like, and

1021
00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:19,879
Speaker 1: why they love guys that went to Michigan State. Oh right,

1022
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:23,520
Speaker 1: they got all I mean, their owner at Ashbia, their

1023
00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:27,239
Speaker 1: coach Jordan Not their general manager Brian Gregrey. They all

1024
00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:29,840
Speaker 1: spent years at Michigan State. Yeah, yeah, so there's a

1025
00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:31,920
Speaker 1: part of that. I think here with Miles Bridges and

1026
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:33,080
Speaker 1: they're infatuation with them.

1027
00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:34,560
Speaker 2: That's true.

1028
00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:36,839
Speaker 1: This team, I mean, I thought they made some nice moves.

1029
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:40,480
Speaker 1: We debated. They're just running it back. But like, this

1030
00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:40,960
Speaker 1: was not a.

1031
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:41,520
Speaker 2: Very good trade.

1032
00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:43,960
Speaker 1: I do not think no at all, because I don't

1033
00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:45,840
Speaker 1: think it moves the needle all that much in the

1034
00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:48,680
Speaker 1: Western Conference and you're just going to be paying them.

1035
00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:52,319
Speaker 2: And this pick, Yeah, they traded a better pick. It

1036
00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:54,839
Speaker 2: doesn't make a lot of sense totally. What you said

1037
00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:56,839
Speaker 2: was when you said they're going to run it back. Yeah,

1038
00:50:56,880 --> 00:50:59,920
Speaker 2: that's exactly the way it looked. But now a lot

1039
00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:04,160
Speaker 2: room that excelled. You bring in this new part instead

1040
00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:10,759
Speaker 2: of Grayson Allen and Royce O'Neil, you take a a

1041
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:13,160
Speaker 2: downfall on the draft pick as well. Doesn't make a

1042
00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:13,839
Speaker 2: lot of sense to me.

1043
00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:15,560
Speaker 1: Now they may not be done. There's a lot of

1044
00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:21,000
Speaker 1: Jail and Green trade rumors. That's a potential. Maybe John

1045
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:25,839
Speaker 1: Morant landing spot Phoenix could be. I mean, you could

1046
00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:28,080
Speaker 1: get there with Jail and Green and John Morant being

1047
00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:30,759
Speaker 1: swapped if if Grizzlies are that desperate to get out

1048
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:31,920
Speaker 1: of the Jahn Morant business.

1049
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:33,240
Speaker 2: And maybe it's.

1050
00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:35,440
Speaker 1: But like man this team around Booker what I just

1051
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:36,839
Speaker 1: don't know really what they're doing. There's not a lot

1052
00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:38,800
Speaker 1: of playmaking around him. There's not a lot of shooting

1053
00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:41,560
Speaker 1: around him. I mean, some of your best shooters are

1054
00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:44,680
Speaker 1: now gone and the Hornets had them like it's I mean,

1055
00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:46,920
Speaker 1: there's one thing they did here. I saw Hollandrew note this.

1056
00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:49,719
Speaker 1: The Sons can now trade the twenty twenty eight first

1057
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:53,040
Speaker 1: round pick that they've already swapped twice and it's the

1058
00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:57,200
Speaker 1: least valuable of Brooklyn, Philadelphia and Washington. So that pick

1059
00:51:57,239 --> 00:51:59,279
Speaker 1: and then a bunch of second rounders are all the

1060
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:02,719
Speaker 1: picks they can try moving forward here to like up

1061
00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:07,080
Speaker 1: till twenty thirty three. So maybe they're not done, but

1062
00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:10,680
Speaker 1: this is adding Miles Bridge to your team and then

1063
00:52:10,719 --> 00:52:11,960
Speaker 1: having to pay them, which they will.

1064
00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:14,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the mistake because the Sun's made a mistake

1065
00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:17,240
Speaker 2: here because yeah, they may have said, let's do something

1066
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:20,919
Speaker 2: in terms of an upgrade in their eyes to get

1067
00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:23,480
Speaker 2: better here because we had our good season, are we

1068
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:25,840
Speaker 2: just going to run it back? And maybe there was

1069
00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:28,080
Speaker 2: a little little itch they had to scratch there, but

1070
00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:31,840
Speaker 2: it was it's totally a mistake because you've got this

1071
00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:35,200
Speaker 2: steady team. Everything's cooking, and you've got money coming off

1072
00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:38,279
Speaker 2: the books next year. In Dylan Brooks you may want

1073
00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:39,719
Speaker 2: to bring back, but.

1074
00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:41,680
Speaker 1: They might sign him to an extension though too.

1075
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:45,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, and the problem is after that, now if you're

1076
00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:49,080
Speaker 2: gonna have to re sign Miles Bridges after letting go

1077
00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:55,040
Speaker 2: waving Bradley Beal even a here a little that costs

1078
00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:57,560
Speaker 2: you money on the books for years and years. So

1079
00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:00,359
Speaker 2: I feel like this is just scratching an itch's need

1080
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:02,000
Speaker 2: to be scratched. And now you're going to end up

1081
00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:07,080
Speaker 2: with what you had looking forward to this season with

1082
00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:09,080
Speaker 2: oh or bring the same thing. You're going to do

1083
00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:13,040
Speaker 2: that in your twenty twenty nine where you're gonna have

1084
00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:16,680
Speaker 2: you're gonna be having Booker and Miles Bridges as your

1085
00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:20,120
Speaker 2: two highest paid guys. It doesn't really make a lot

1086
00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:21,560
Speaker 2: of sense to me. I think it's a bit of

1087
00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:22,239
Speaker 2: a step back.

1088
00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:25,240
Speaker 1: And they've got, like they do have some younger talent

1089
00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:27,319
Speaker 1: that you also wonder if it's being sort of like

1090
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:30,160
Speaker 1: obviously pushed down the pecking order here when you make

1091
00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:32,160
Speaker 1: a move like this, like they seem high on Fleming

1092
00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:35,720
Speaker 1: and there's is Malawatchez obviously their center, like very raw center.

1093
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:38,919
Speaker 1: Like their starting lineup right now would be Booker Green

1094
00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:41,919
Speaker 1: Brooks if he's there, Dylan Brooks, Miles Bridges at the four,

1095
00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:43,720
Speaker 1: and Mark Williams.

1096
00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:49,120
Speaker 2: That does not excite me all that much. Really. Yeah, again,

1097
00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:51,360
Speaker 2: I do think it is a bit of an upgrade,

1098
00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:54,799
Speaker 2: though I don't want to. I think it's a bad

1099
00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:59,799
Speaker 2: move long term, short term him instead of Grays and

1100
00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:04,520
Speaker 2: Allen and Royce O'Neil. But in a locker room, you're

1101
00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:07,200
Speaker 2: messing things that, you're changing things, and then you're handcuffing

1102
00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:10,160
Speaker 2: yourself for years, most likely after you signed Miles Bridges.

1103
00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:13,720
Speaker 1: What's he going to get He's going to be eligible

1104
00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:15,480
Speaker 1: for an extent. It's like three years eighty nine million,

1105
00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:16,680
Speaker 1: three years ninety million.

1106
00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:18,279
Speaker 2: About that? Yeah, probably about that?

1107
00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:21,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, Well, let's hear your thoughts on that trade.

1108
00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:22,800
Speaker 1: That was the one trade that went down this weekend,

1109
00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:24,520
Speaker 1: actually one of two. We'll get to the other minor

1110
00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:26,759
Speaker 1: one in a second here. But Isaiah Hartenstein in the

1111
00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:29,520
Speaker 1: Thunder agreed to a three year, seventy five million dollars

1112
00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:34,720
Speaker 1: contract extension. Tasks your thoughts here on Hartenstein, this extension,

1113
00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:38,480
Speaker 1: dropping his salary by about five million for the coming season,

1114
00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:40,799
Speaker 1: So it's helping the Thunder maybe try and get under

1115
00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:43,120
Speaker 1: the second apron. Still a move to make if they.

1116
00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:45,759
Speaker 2: Want to do that. Good for the Thunder to bring

1117
00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:48,640
Speaker 2: it back, they need him in the middle, simple as

1118
00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:53,200
Speaker 2: that Chet was not excellent in the playoffs. But besides that,

1119
00:54:53,239 --> 00:54:58,239
Speaker 2: I mean besides Chet against Wemby, they need to bring

1120
00:54:58,280 --> 00:55:00,719
Speaker 2: back the same starting lineup as the they always do.

1121
00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:03,240
Speaker 2: Good for them. They've got three guys that are signed

1122
00:55:03,239 --> 00:55:06,120
Speaker 2: for four years and Shade, Jalen Williams and Chet, And

1123
00:55:06,120 --> 00:55:08,760
Speaker 2: they've got two guys for three years the Hertenstein contract

1124
00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:12,680
Speaker 2: and Caruso. Today they got to decide on Dort's team option,

1125
00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:16,440
Speaker 2: and then beyond that it's Cason Wallace, the other Jalen Williams,

1126
00:55:16,520 --> 00:55:22,080
Speaker 2: Jared McCain, aj mitchell A, Dine Mara, Nikolotopich and Thomas Sorber.

1127
00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:25,600
Speaker 2: Here they are, They're coming back and they have to.

1128
00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:27,880
Speaker 2: They had to do that. I think Hartenstein is a

1129
00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:30,479
Speaker 2: bit of their glue. Things are looking good there.

1130
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:34,680
Speaker 1: They still can get under the second apron by declining

1131
00:55:34,719 --> 00:55:37,280
Speaker 1: Dort's team option or by picking it up and trading

1132
00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:39,520
Speaker 1: them Dorts in a lot of like Lakers trade rumors

1133
00:55:39,560 --> 00:55:43,359
Speaker 1: here right now. Holl Anders says. Another option is they

1134
00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:47,160
Speaker 1: could trade recent draft picks in Topitch and Sorber and

1135
00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:50,879
Speaker 1: decline Kenrich Williams team option and you can get under

1136
00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:53,439
Speaker 1: the second apron that way as well. But the long

1137
00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:56,279
Speaker 1: and short of it is what looked like it was

1138
00:55:56,320 --> 00:55:59,240
Speaker 1: going to be an insane tax bill. They've done pretty

1139
00:55:59,239 --> 00:56:01,080
Speaker 1: good work here. I say good work. They had to

1140
00:56:01,080 --> 00:56:03,120
Speaker 1: trade good players, but look, you're a good team and

1141
00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:06,440
Speaker 1: you got a lot of them, getting like whatever second

1142
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:08,360
Speaker 1: round picks back for Wiggins and then we'll get to

1143
00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:11,000
Speaker 1: Joe in a second here. But you got to do

1144
00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:12,720
Speaker 1: that if you want to keep your top end talent

1145
00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:14,320
Speaker 1: together and try and stay on the second aprint so

1146
00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:16,520
Speaker 1: he can make moves as you move forward here. So, yeah,

1147
00:56:16,560 --> 00:56:18,840
Speaker 1: this is good work, and you're right, he's important. He

1148
00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:22,200
Speaker 1: showed that he was extremely important to their their success

1149
00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:24,319
Speaker 1: over the last couple of years since they got him.

1150
00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:27,040
Speaker 1: So and they get him a pretty good deal. I mean,

1151
00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:29,440
Speaker 1: he honestly is almost doing them a favor here. I

1152
00:56:29,480 --> 00:56:32,239
Speaker 1: think he is doing them a favor. I think he's

1153
00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:34,560
Speaker 1: actually worth more on the market than this.

1154
00:56:34,719 --> 00:56:37,839
Speaker 2: But you think he loves it there, Yeah, you know,

1155
00:56:38,320 --> 00:56:40,359
Speaker 2: they did him, they kind of they paid high when

1156
00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:43,960
Speaker 2: they got him from the Knicks in comparison, like he

1157
00:56:44,239 --> 00:56:46,600
Speaker 2: didn't he didn't play that type of role. But here

1158
00:56:46,719 --> 00:56:51,719
Speaker 2: he's excelling well. And you know, by some reports, it's hard,

1159
00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:53,839
Speaker 2: it's hard to know what's reidal on the internet. Kendrick

1160
00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:57,319
Speaker 2: Williams team option was declined a week ago. We were

1161
00:56:57,320 --> 00:56:57,600
Speaker 2: on here.

1162
00:56:57,560 --> 00:56:58,000
Speaker 1: Oh was it?

1163
00:56:58,280 --> 00:57:01,640
Speaker 2: No? But I don't think that's letely confirmed. But all

1164
00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:04,800
Speaker 2: around we're here at the desk when that happened. The

1165
00:57:04,920 --> 00:57:06,920
Speaker 2: rumors said that, but TBD.

1166
00:57:06,719 --> 00:57:12,600
Speaker 1: Not officially, not official. No, the Pistons landed sharpshooter. Isaiah Joe,

1167
00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:14,040
Speaker 1: Where did you come from? Where did you go? Well,

1168
00:57:14,040 --> 00:57:17,280
Speaker 1: you went to Detroit and that was a trade obviously

1169
00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:21,520
Speaker 1: with the Thunder. So your thoughts on Isaiah Joe, excuse me?

1170
00:57:21,800 --> 00:57:22,600
Speaker 1: Going to Detroit?

1171
00:57:24,280 --> 00:57:27,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Thunder obviously from their perspective, Hey got to

1172
00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:32,760
Speaker 2: cut this guy. The Detroit Pistons they need desperately, they

1173
00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:35,400
Speaker 2: needed a shooter and so he comes off the bench.

1174
00:57:35,440 --> 00:57:37,840
Speaker 2: They have such an interesting off season because what is

1175
00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:42,680
Speaker 2: this team going to become. Kevin Hurder is a free agent,

1176
00:57:43,040 --> 00:57:46,560
Speaker 2: so you think, okay, Isiajoe basically took his spot. Kevin

1177
00:57:46,600 --> 00:57:49,200
Speaker 2: Herder experiment never really worked out. Tobias Aris. Also free

1178
00:57:49,240 --> 00:57:52,240
Speaker 2: agent Isaua Stewart was traded away. They've got team options

1179
00:57:52,240 --> 00:57:54,640
Speaker 2: on Danis Jenkins, run holl And, Marcus Saster and the

1180
00:57:54,920 --> 00:57:58,560
Speaker 2: sar Thompson team option extension eligible. So that's interesting there.

1181
00:57:59,480 --> 00:58:01,600
Speaker 2: It's a good addition, but they got to get better,

1182
00:58:01,960 --> 00:58:04,919
Speaker 2: even better than what this is. They have so much

1183
00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:08,520
Speaker 2: money available because of sar Thompson not paid a lot

1184
00:58:08,720 --> 00:58:12,240
Speaker 2: the Jalen Duran extension, which is still bound to happen here,

1185
00:58:12,520 --> 00:58:16,080
Speaker 2: they can bring in a lot of parts to replace

1186
00:58:16,160 --> 00:58:19,960
Speaker 2: either Tobias Harris or just bring on somebody who can score,

1187
00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:21,240
Speaker 2: or Duncan Robinson.

1188
00:58:21,400 --> 00:58:22,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, if he's not there.

1189
00:58:22,760 --> 00:58:26,680
Speaker 2: So this is Duncan. Is Duncan under contract?

1190
00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:28,720
Speaker 1: I thought he was, Yeah, but there's rumors that he

1191
00:58:28,760 --> 00:58:32,200
Speaker 1: could be okay squeezed here, but we'll see. I mean, look,

1192
00:58:32,200 --> 00:58:33,880
Speaker 1: I'm with you that they were one of the worst

1193
00:58:33,880 --> 00:58:36,360
Speaker 1: three point shooting teams in the league and they added

1194
00:58:36,360 --> 00:58:38,240
Speaker 1: one of the better guys, especially in a bench roll,

1195
00:58:38,320 --> 00:58:40,480
Speaker 1: in Isaiah Joe. That's one thing this guy can do,

1196
00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:43,360
Speaker 1: and he does it well. Hit two and a half

1197
00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:46,080
Speaker 1: threes in just under twenty one minutes per game. He's

1198
00:58:46,120 --> 00:58:49,160
Speaker 1: a career forty one percent three point shooter. And again

1199
00:58:49,200 --> 00:58:52,360
Speaker 1: the Pistons, they had Duncan Robinson and they had Kate Cunningham,

1200
00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:54,080
Speaker 1: and like, outside of that, nobody was like a high

1201
00:58:54,120 --> 00:58:57,040
Speaker 1: volume three point shooter because guess what happened one of

1202
00:58:57,080 --> 00:59:00,600
Speaker 1: their guys he got caught up in illegal gambling activity

1203
00:59:00,640 --> 00:59:02,640
Speaker 1: in Malik Beasley. I mean, this guy was awesome for

1204
00:59:02,680 --> 00:59:04,880
Speaker 1: them and then suddenly was not allowed to play in

1205
00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:07,360
Speaker 1: the league. We learned more about that too. Malik Beasley

1206
00:59:07,400 --> 00:59:10,680
Speaker 1: has been indicted on federal charges for gambling related to

1207
00:59:10,680 --> 00:59:13,320
Speaker 1: a sports betting scheme such as point shaving and prop bets.

1208
00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:15,600
Speaker 1: This is what his attorney was telling Sean's here this morning.

1209
00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:18,680
Speaker 1: So the government is coordinating a voluntary surrender of Beasley

1210
00:59:18,760 --> 00:59:22,080
Speaker 1: this week, so as a sort of all goes together

1211
00:59:22,120 --> 00:59:24,880
Speaker 1: here because that's Beasley was an important piece and a

1212
00:59:24,880 --> 00:59:27,680
Speaker 1: three point shooter, and then he was gone and we saw, like, ooh, man,

1213
00:59:27,680 --> 00:59:29,520
Speaker 1: they need a high volume three point shooter, so they're

1214
00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:31,720
Speaker 1: trying to get one here and Joe and a good

1215
00:59:31,840 --> 00:59:34,480
Speaker 1: job for only two what second round picks?

1216
00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:37,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Malik Beasley was a but to sign a

1217
00:59:37,960 --> 00:59:42,280
Speaker 2: big contract right before that, so unfortunate it was there,

1218
00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:46,080
Speaker 2: and the Pistons are looking to fix things up when

1219
00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:48,600
Speaker 2: Leik Beasley didn't come back. They also went and signed

1220
00:59:48,640 --> 00:59:51,520
Speaker 2: Carousel Vert sort of as their playmaker, kind of replacing

1221
00:59:51,600 --> 00:59:55,040
Speaker 2: Dennis Shrewder there. That hasn't worked out all that well.

1222
00:59:56,440 --> 00:59:58,960
Speaker 2: They made the Jane and Ivy trade to go get

1223
00:59:59,000 --> 01:00:01,880
Speaker 2: Kevin Hurder that hasn't worked out extremely well. So, yeah,

1224
01:00:01,920 --> 01:00:03,680
Speaker 2: this is an interesting time.

1225
01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:07,640
Speaker 1: Will you be happy if this is sort of all

1226
01:00:07,720 --> 01:00:10,200
Speaker 1: the Pistons do so to speak this offseason, Like they

1227
01:00:10,200 --> 01:00:12,760
Speaker 1: bring back Jellen Duran on whatever contract they agree to,

1228
01:00:13,480 --> 01:00:16,360
Speaker 1: they make this move for Isaiah Joe. Let's say, you know,

1229
01:00:16,440 --> 01:00:18,960
Speaker 1: Tobias Harris, Duncan Rominson one of them still there. You know,

1230
01:00:19,080 --> 01:00:21,520
Speaker 1: like if that's sort of it, you don't love it.

1231
01:00:21,760 --> 01:00:24,800
Speaker 1: You want more shooting, more playmaking, because that's what Isaia

1232
01:00:24,880 --> 01:00:25,600
Speaker 1: Jo doesn't do that.

1233
01:00:25,720 --> 01:00:26,240
Speaker 2: No, he does not.

1234
01:00:26,280 --> 01:00:27,840
Speaker 1: I mean I don't think we can. I don't think he.

1235
01:00:27,760 --> 01:00:28,240
Speaker 2: Can do that.

1236
01:00:28,400 --> 01:00:30,080
Speaker 1: No, maybe it gets more of an opportunity to do it.

1237
01:00:30,080 --> 01:00:31,920
Speaker 1: But that guy just a shooter. He's a play finisher,

1238
01:00:31,960 --> 01:00:32,600
Speaker 1: not a play starter.

1239
01:00:32,840 --> 01:00:35,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's not much of a driver. That's why the

1240
01:00:35,480 --> 01:00:41,000
Speaker 2: Thunder said, we can let go you. Jared McCain essentially

1241
01:00:41,080 --> 01:00:44,440
Speaker 2: took Isaiah Joe's spot. Is what a great pickup that was,

1242
01:00:44,440 --> 01:00:47,560
Speaker 2: because that guy can drive. They trade away Aaron Wiggins,

1243
01:00:47,760 --> 01:00:52,080
Speaker 2: while the Pistons, I think if right now, if they're desperate,

1244
01:00:52,080 --> 01:00:53,920
Speaker 2: they bring back to Bias Harris, but their starting lineup

1245
01:00:54,000 --> 01:00:57,120
Speaker 2: is essentially the same, and they let go Isaiah Stewart

1246
01:00:57,360 --> 01:00:59,560
Speaker 2: and they bring back or they bring in Isaiah Joe.

1247
01:01:00,040 --> 01:01:03,040
Speaker 2: I think I'm taking the Miami Heat in a series

1248
01:01:03,080 --> 01:01:05,919
Speaker 2: over that may maybe I'm just a recentcy Bias type

1249
01:01:05,920 --> 01:01:07,920
Speaker 2: of guy, but I think the Pistons will still be

1250
01:01:07,920 --> 01:01:09,640
Speaker 2: good in the regular season like they were. When it

1251
01:01:09,640 --> 01:01:14,240
Speaker 2: comes to the playoffs, I'm banking on Giannis being able

1252
01:01:15,240 --> 01:01:17,360
Speaker 2: in a healthy team. Yeah, he's got to be healthy.

1253
01:01:17,360 --> 01:01:19,880
Speaker 2: If they're healthy against the Detroit Pistons, Yeah, they need score.

1254
01:01:19,920 --> 01:01:23,120
Speaker 1: That's funny brought up that team because Norman Powell could

1255
01:01:23,200 --> 01:01:25,120
Speaker 1: be on one of those two teams. Yeah. Does he

1256
01:01:25,120 --> 01:01:27,080
Speaker 1: stay with Miami or is he He's one that's been

1257
01:01:27,120 --> 01:01:29,840
Speaker 1: linked as a sort of obviously a guy that can

1258
01:01:29,880 --> 01:01:31,560
Speaker 1: score to Detroit.

1259
01:01:32,520 --> 01:01:36,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, but then you're taking a risk Norman Powell over

1260
01:01:36,320 --> 01:01:39,360
Speaker 2: Tobias Harris. That's a risk because Obias is a free agent.

1261
01:01:39,400 --> 01:01:42,040
Speaker 2: Would you rather have Norman Powell who's injured, a great,

1262
01:01:42,120 --> 01:01:46,080
Speaker 2: great player, but he can't do it for six months?

1263
01:01:46,120 --> 01:01:48,800
Speaker 2: I don't think so that's a question. Yeah, it is

1264
01:01:48,840 --> 01:01:51,640
Speaker 2: unfortunate here. The Pistons are. They got parts moving here.

1265
01:01:51,760 --> 01:01:54,400
Speaker 2: I thought I thought Andrew Wiggins would be the guy

1266
01:01:54,640 --> 01:01:57,800
Speaker 2: and hopefully he would be a you know, back to

1267
01:01:58,160 --> 01:02:02,760
Speaker 2: old DeAndre or Andrew Wiggins. But it's like that that

1268
01:02:02,880 --> 01:02:06,440
Speaker 2: was my bar. Do they need a score somebody? I mean,

1269
01:02:06,480 --> 01:02:09,240
Speaker 2: they should go all in on Trey Murphy. That's the team.

1270
01:02:09,320 --> 01:02:11,440
Speaker 1: It should be like they should push all their chips

1271
01:02:11,440 --> 01:02:12,440
Speaker 1: in draft capital in.

1272
01:02:12,640 --> 01:02:14,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, it could be awesome, I think for them. Yeah,

1273
01:02:15,040 --> 01:02:17,720
Speaker 2: and they're they're pushing. I'm sure they're they're trying to

1274
01:02:17,720 --> 01:02:18,360
Speaker 2: get somebody.

1275
01:02:18,560 --> 01:02:22,640
Speaker 1: I imagine other minor NBA transaction news here. A lot

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01:02:22,680 --> 01:02:24,880
Speaker 1: of option stuff here, So we'll go at these one

1277
01:02:24,920 --> 01:02:27,440
Speaker 1: at a time. Rockets guard Fred Van Vliet, opting into

1278
01:02:27,440 --> 01:02:29,720
Speaker 1: his twenty five million dollar player option for the twenty

1279
01:02:29,720 --> 01:02:32,160
Speaker 1: six twenty seven season, tasks so vi in Vliet on

1280
01:02:32,200 --> 01:02:34,680
Speaker 1: the books. Houston has about twenty million dollars here to

1281
01:02:34,800 --> 01:02:37,560
Speaker 1: resign Tarry Easton and fill out the rest of the

1282
01:02:37,680 --> 01:02:39,320
Speaker 1: roster before reaching the first apron.

1283
01:02:39,840 --> 01:02:41,040
Speaker 2: But were you.

1284
01:02:41,000 --> 01:02:43,640
Speaker 1: Shocked at all by Freddy Steady Freddy picking up the

1285
01:02:43,640 --> 01:02:44,200
Speaker 1: option here.

1286
01:02:44,160 --> 01:02:47,480
Speaker 2: Just five million? Fred wants to be a starting point

1287
01:02:47,480 --> 01:02:50,400
Speaker 2: guard with Kevin Durant beside him coming on back. I

1288
01:02:50,480 --> 01:02:52,480
Speaker 2: was a good contract that they signed him to before

1289
01:02:52,560 --> 01:02:55,080
Speaker 2: twenty four or twenty five, twenty six, I should say

1290
01:02:55,120 --> 01:02:59,920
Speaker 2: two years, fifty million dollars and listen. I tuned in

1291
01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:03,560
Speaker 2: to Unguarded by Fred van Vliet in his podcast. I thought, Okay,

1292
01:03:03,560 --> 01:03:06,040
Speaker 2: maybe he's coming back. Maybe he's coming back, but he

1293
01:03:06,120 --> 01:03:08,240
Speaker 2: did not, and so he just wants to come back.

1294
01:03:08,240 --> 01:03:10,480
Speaker 2: Good for him, Good for the Rockets.

1295
01:03:10,760 --> 01:03:14,520
Speaker 1: Kings guard Zach Levine also, you won't believe this opting

1296
01:03:14,560 --> 01:03:19,040
Speaker 1: into his forty nine million dollar player option. Yeah, I'll

1297
01:03:19,080 --> 01:03:20,200
Speaker 1: always be picking that one up.

1298
01:03:20,440 --> 01:03:23,320
Speaker 2: Kangs be the Kangs. It's the same team they're bringing back,

1299
01:03:24,080 --> 01:03:24,560
Speaker 2: right with.

1300
01:03:24,560 --> 01:03:28,440
Speaker 1: Some yeah, obviously a cuff their future hopefully right and

1301
01:03:28,520 --> 01:03:29,360
Speaker 1: still figuring out.

1302
01:03:29,200 --> 01:03:31,800
Speaker 2: What to do with the Rosen and maybe Si bonus

1303
01:03:32,000 --> 01:03:36,439
Speaker 2: and oh yeah, yeah, they're paying a lot of guys

1304
01:03:36,440 --> 01:03:42,920
Speaker 2: and Keegan Murray Malik monk. They're numbers wise. I'm not

1305
01:03:42,960 --> 01:03:44,800
Speaker 2: the number. I'm not the salary numbers guys. But they're

1306
01:03:44,800 --> 01:03:47,440
Speaker 2: already paying two hundred million dollars to two players, and

1307
01:03:47,480 --> 01:03:50,480
Speaker 2: they're going to be shanky. Okay.

1308
01:03:50,640 --> 01:03:53,280
Speaker 1: James Harden is declining his forty two point three million

1309
01:03:53,280 --> 01:03:55,240
Speaker 1: dollar player option for next season, but he and the

1310
01:03:55,280 --> 01:03:57,120
Speaker 1: Cavs are working together on a new deal. We had

1311
01:03:57,120 --> 01:04:00,120
Speaker 1: expected this, we had talked about this. I think they're

1312
01:04:00,120 --> 01:04:03,200
Speaker 1: thinking the year yearly salary will drop to around the

1313
01:04:03,280 --> 01:04:07,720
Speaker 1: twenty eight to thirty million dollar range, be it two

1314
01:04:07,880 --> 01:04:10,200
Speaker 1: or three years, I don't know, player option or something

1315
01:04:10,240 --> 01:04:13,320
Speaker 1: like that. I think that's where they'll probably come together on.

1316
01:04:14,160 --> 01:04:16,240
Speaker 1: If I'm a guessing, if I'm a betanscuse me.

1317
01:04:16,320 --> 01:04:19,800
Speaker 2: Sure. It seems like they made the trade four months ago.

1318
01:04:20,440 --> 01:04:22,480
Speaker 2: The plan was to keep James Harden around, and so

1319
01:04:22,520 --> 01:04:24,200
Speaker 2: they're going to come to that deal and hopefully he

1320
01:04:24,240 --> 01:04:29,280
Speaker 2: can buy a safe storage for his weapon. Did you

1321
01:04:29,320 --> 01:04:31,840
Speaker 2: see the misdemeanor charge that he that he was hit

1322
01:04:32,800 --> 01:04:35,680
Speaker 2: was recently, Yes, and Houston kind of flew under the radar.

1323
01:04:35,720 --> 01:04:38,880
Speaker 2: He was in Houston and uh yeah, misdemeanor charge of

1324
01:04:38,920 --> 01:04:41,919
Speaker 2: unlawful carrying of a weapon in a motor vehicle. Okay, Yeah,

1325
01:04:42,920 --> 01:04:44,160
Speaker 2: Unfortunately all these.

1326
01:04:44,000 --> 01:04:46,640
Speaker 1: Guys that get traded, what we're seeing here is like

1327
01:04:47,480 --> 01:04:49,320
Speaker 1: nine percent of the time the extension is going to

1328
01:04:49,360 --> 01:04:51,240
Speaker 1: be signed, new contract is going to be signed because

1329
01:04:51,240 --> 01:04:54,680
Speaker 1: they've talked about it in advance with their agents. The

1330
01:04:54,760 --> 01:04:57,000
Speaker 1: new team acquiring said player at trade. Do you know

1331
01:04:57,040 --> 01:04:57,360
Speaker 1: what I mean?

1332
01:04:57,520 --> 01:05:00,520
Speaker 2: Especially if you so many of these, especially if your

1333
01:05:01,360 --> 01:05:04,600
Speaker 2: year is done months later, you know what I mean,

1334
01:05:04,640 --> 01:05:07,600
Speaker 2: if your contract is done, like Anthony Davis was rumored

1335
01:05:07,600 --> 01:05:10,040
Speaker 2: to be extended, We're going to be extended by the

1336
01:05:10,080 --> 01:05:12,800
Speaker 2: Washington Wizards. That hasn't that's true, but he has a

1337
01:05:12,920 --> 01:05:16,360
Speaker 2: full year guaranteed after that. Harden makes sense.

1338
01:05:16,760 --> 01:05:20,000
Speaker 1: A couple other ones just breaking right now. Seam says,

1339
01:05:20,000 --> 01:05:23,200
Speaker 1: DeAndre Ayton is opting into his eight point one million

1340
01:05:23,240 --> 01:05:25,160
Speaker 1: dollar player option with the Lakers.

1341
01:05:26,400 --> 01:05:29,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Lakers were looking to get Isaiah Stewart, but

1342
01:05:29,680 --> 01:05:31,680
Speaker 2: they were beat by the Memphis Grizzlies, who had second

1343
01:05:31,760 --> 01:05:38,120
Speaker 2: round picks to give to Detroit and so this this

1344
01:05:38,200 --> 01:05:41,760
Speaker 2: is a separate deal. But DeAndre and come back after

1345
01:05:41,800 --> 01:05:44,160
Speaker 2: having a good year. Was he going to get more

1346
01:05:44,320 --> 01:05:51,520
Speaker 2: money elsewhere as a free agent? I don't know. Maybe

1347
01:05:52,760 --> 01:05:56,560
Speaker 2: maybe not. I mean he was solid last year. Yeah, solid, Yeah,

1348
01:05:56,560 --> 01:05:57,240
Speaker 2: he was solid.

1349
01:05:57,240 --> 01:06:00,720
Speaker 1: Well another center Net center droon Sharp to sign a

1350
01:06:00,760 --> 01:06:03,120
Speaker 1: new two year, twenty million dollar deal to return to

1351
01:06:03,120 --> 01:06:05,680
Speaker 1: the Brooklyn Nets. So you know, they made the move

1352
01:06:05,760 --> 01:06:08,560
Speaker 1: to get off of Nick Claxton, and we said they

1353
01:06:08,640 --> 01:06:10,880
Speaker 1: believe Sharp is their center here. So he gets a

1354
01:06:11,920 --> 01:06:14,160
Speaker 1: very affordable I think a team option there too. No

1355
01:06:14,240 --> 01:06:16,440
Speaker 1: Nets decline Sharp's team option to do the new contract.

1356
01:06:16,440 --> 01:06:19,120
Speaker 2: Are you going, we'll see if you grow as a player. Yeah,

1357
01:06:19,360 --> 01:06:20,240
Speaker 2: that's how he got there.

1358
01:06:21,000 --> 01:06:21,919
Speaker 1: You're not the biggest fan.

1359
01:06:23,040 --> 01:06:24,920
Speaker 2: Just if he can grow, it's fine. He's got to

1360
01:06:24,920 --> 01:06:25,360
Speaker 2: get better.

1361
01:06:26,120 --> 01:06:29,040
Speaker 1: Mamu. Yeah, Raptors big man declining his two point eight

1362
01:06:29,040 --> 01:06:31,360
Speaker 1: million dollars player option. He's going to test free agency here,

1363
01:06:31,760 --> 01:06:34,760
Speaker 1: so he him and his obviously his agency. I think

1364
01:06:34,760 --> 01:06:37,280
Speaker 1: it's priority sports. They're like, oh yeah, there's like suddenly

1365
01:06:37,280 --> 01:06:41,160
Speaker 1: like this strong developing market for Mamu where a lot

1366
01:06:41,160 --> 01:06:42,640
Speaker 1: of teams are like, oh, we could use a guy

1367
01:06:42,680 --> 01:06:44,480
Speaker 1: like that. And after we saw it. I mean, he

1368
01:06:44,520 --> 01:06:46,560
Speaker 1: had a really good start to the Raptors. I think

1369
01:06:46,560 --> 01:06:48,440
Speaker 1: it sort of trailed off as season went on, but

1370
01:06:49,160 --> 01:06:51,440
Speaker 1: good for him. I think he's timing this well.

1371
01:06:51,200 --> 01:06:56,680
Speaker 2: Here, yeah, right, undersized backup center seeming seemingly has become

1372
01:06:56,720 --> 01:07:01,680
Speaker 2: more prominent in the NBA. But he lost his job

1373
01:07:01,720 --> 01:07:06,280
Speaker 2: when Colin Murray Boyles was better in the playoffs. So

1374
01:07:06,360 --> 01:07:08,920
Speaker 2: he should go get his money, DeAndre, and I think

1375
01:07:09,000 --> 01:07:11,120
Speaker 2: should go get it. It should have gone and gotten his money.

1376
01:07:11,160 --> 01:07:14,480
Speaker 2: I think you gotta got paid more. But congratulations, as

1377
01:07:14,480 --> 01:07:17,480
Speaker 2: you said prior to sports Mark Bartolstein.

1378
01:07:17,320 --> 01:07:19,720
Speaker 1: And George Bartelstein season Baby and.

1379
01:07:19,720 --> 01:07:22,000
Speaker 2: George Russaki's a Greek.

1380
01:07:22,200 --> 01:07:22,560
Speaker 1: Wow.

1381
01:07:22,960 --> 01:07:26,240
Speaker 2: It sure feels like as the agents when you get

1382
01:07:26,280 --> 01:07:30,000
Speaker 2: a double agent mentioned god, sometimes a triple agent. These

1383
01:07:30,040 --> 01:07:31,280
Speaker 2: guys have so many agents.

1384
01:07:31,400 --> 01:07:35,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the Sham's way of breaking is a little

1385
01:07:35,440 --> 01:07:38,520
Speaker 1: eye rolling at times. What was the one that was

1386
01:07:39,880 --> 01:07:42,240
Speaker 1: something came through over the weekend and people were like, oh,

1387
01:07:42,320 --> 01:07:44,000
Speaker 1: I think it was the Hertenstein. Did you see how

1388
01:07:44,000 --> 01:07:47,080
Speaker 1: that one was worded? It was batchit crazy how he

1389
01:07:47,160 --> 01:07:50,120
Speaker 1: worded it, because it was like, get to the point,

1390
01:07:50,200 --> 01:07:52,439
Speaker 1: what is the deal? But it was like he has

1391
01:07:52,480 --> 01:07:55,800
Speaker 1: now made in his one hundred and twenty five million,

1392
01:07:55,920 --> 01:07:58,640
Speaker 1: Like it was so convoluted and it was so obviously

1393
01:07:58,760 --> 01:08:02,040
Speaker 1: like the the agents gave it to him, and that's

1394
01:08:02,080 --> 01:08:03,920
Speaker 1: his title, all these things, and how he gets all

1395
01:08:03,960 --> 01:08:04,320
Speaker 1: this news.

1396
01:08:04,360 --> 01:08:04,680
Speaker 2: I get it.

1397
01:08:04,720 --> 01:08:07,000
Speaker 1: You gotta play the game. But I don't know, man,

1398
01:08:07,960 --> 01:08:09,560
Speaker 1: Just tell us what the hell it was that one

1399
01:08:09,600 --> 01:08:10,520
Speaker 1: was infuriating.

1400
01:08:10,640 --> 01:08:13,640
Speaker 2: This is the one you're talking about, just in Oklahoma

1401
01:08:13,720 --> 01:08:16,720
Speaker 2: City is Isaiah Hartenstein intends to sign a new three

1402
01:08:16,760 --> 01:08:18,800
Speaker 2: year contract to return to the Thunder through twenty eight

1403
01:08:18,800 --> 01:08:21,120
Speaker 2: twenty nine. That brings his total earnings with the franchise

1404
01:08:21,160 --> 01:08:23,000
Speaker 2: at five years on one hundred and thirty four million

1405
01:08:23,000 --> 01:08:26,880
Speaker 2: guaranteed sources TELEESPN sign twenty twenty four, leading to the

1406
01:08:26,920 --> 01:08:30,759
Speaker 2: twenty twenty five I do like though that the agent

1407
01:08:31,320 --> 01:08:33,200
Speaker 2: mentioned comes in a second tweek quite.

1408
01:08:33,080 --> 01:08:36,240
Speaker 1: Oft WOA, you know, not all the time?

1409
01:08:36,320 --> 01:08:39,040
Speaker 2: Then then the second tweek comes in Hartenstein and his

1410
01:08:39,080 --> 01:08:44,719
Speaker 2: reps Andrew Morrison and Aaron Mints of CIA's Sports. Yeah,

1411
01:08:44,760 --> 01:08:47,880
Speaker 2: so sometimes you got to click the more like I

1412
01:08:47,880 --> 01:08:50,080
Speaker 2: didn't even finish reading, leading to the twenty twenty five

1413
01:08:50,120 --> 01:08:53,519
Speaker 2: Championships under lock in the defensive anchor cool.

1414
01:08:53,560 --> 01:08:56,000
Speaker 1: He always adds a little flavor there. Again, whatever the

1415
01:08:56,040 --> 01:08:58,160
Speaker 1: agent said to like, spruce this up a little bit,

1416
01:08:58,240 --> 01:09:01,720
Speaker 1: make it sound great. Alvarado returning to the Knicks on

1417
01:09:01,760 --> 01:09:05,920
Speaker 1: a new three year, fourteen million dollar ish deal. The

1418
01:09:05,920 --> 01:09:08,400
Speaker 1: Celtics are resigning Ron Harper Junior to a three year

1419
01:09:08,479 --> 01:09:10,280
Speaker 1: nine million dollar deal. The Wolves are keeping Jaal and

1420
01:09:10,320 --> 01:09:13,160
Speaker 1: Clark on a three year ten million dollar deal. I

1421
01:09:13,200 --> 01:09:15,880
Speaker 1: got a few others anything related to those twos.

1422
01:09:15,920 --> 01:09:19,839
Speaker 2: Well, the next side with Alvarado coming back, the interesting

1423
01:09:19,880 --> 01:09:22,160
Speaker 2: part is are they bringing the team back? Alvarado back

1424
01:09:22,360 --> 01:09:26,719
Speaker 2: a good deal. But James Dolan was on the Carton

1425
01:09:26,800 --> 01:09:30,760
Speaker 2: Show and he said that I can't go into the

1426
01:09:30,760 --> 01:09:33,960
Speaker 2: second apron it's suicidal. And so does that mean Mitchell

1427
01:09:34,000 --> 01:09:36,240
Speaker 2: Robinson is too expensive to come back? And Landry Shammon

1428
01:09:36,320 --> 01:09:39,479
Speaker 2: it's too expensive to come back? Those two alongside with

1429
01:09:40,439 --> 01:09:42,120
Speaker 2: Josey Alvarado, those were the three parts.

1430
01:09:42,960 --> 01:09:44,920
Speaker 1: So one done, but what about the other two?

1431
01:09:45,120 --> 01:09:45,280
Speaker 2: Yea.

1432
01:09:46,120 --> 01:09:51,639
Speaker 1: The Orlando Magic waved forward Jonathan Isaac on Saturday. Isaac

1433
01:09:51,920 --> 01:09:52,439
Speaker 1: remember him?

1434
01:09:52,520 --> 01:09:56,920
Speaker 2: It's all done? Yeah? Yeah, that was this. This is

1435
01:09:57,000 --> 01:09:59,080
Speaker 2: getting into the weed. It's getting a little geeky here.

1436
01:09:59,080 --> 01:10:02,840
Speaker 2: But million partially guaranteed on the books for next season

1437
01:10:02,840 --> 01:10:04,920
Speaker 2: that they have to pay right, that's being paid. And

1438
01:10:05,040 --> 01:10:07,760
Speaker 2: in March they pushed back the fully guaranteed number of

1439
01:10:07,960 --> 01:10:10,160
Speaker 2: fourteen and a half million for twenty six, twenty seven

1440
01:10:10,200 --> 01:10:12,400
Speaker 2: back to June twenty eighth instead of fifty two games,

1441
01:10:12,560 --> 01:10:15,280
Speaker 2: which he eventually got to, so that money was not paid.

1442
01:10:16,000 --> 01:10:17,439
Speaker 2: In the end, he missed out on six and a

1443
01:10:17,479 --> 01:10:21,320
Speaker 2: half million. Yeah, that's just some geeky number stuff. But

1444
01:10:21,760 --> 01:10:25,679
Speaker 2: it feels like it's over for Jonathan Isaac as an over. Well,

1445
01:10:25,760 --> 01:10:28,320
Speaker 2: like I said, I mean that he got he was

1446
01:10:28,320 --> 01:10:31,200
Speaker 2: injured to finish the season, and so yes, I mean

1447
01:10:31,320 --> 01:10:32,639
Speaker 2: it over in terms of.

1448
01:10:32,680 --> 01:10:35,120
Speaker 1: I mean elite defensive players still.

1449
01:10:34,720 --> 01:10:37,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's but they would have it. Yeah, this

1450
01:10:37,720 --> 01:10:40,320
Speaker 2: is to save money. But it just feels like it's

1451
01:10:40,360 --> 01:10:43,800
Speaker 2: over in terms of Jonathan Isaac at the full possibility

1452
01:10:43,800 --> 01:10:47,479
Speaker 2: that we're all sort of watching. Yes, great defensive player,

1453
01:10:47,680 --> 01:10:49,960
Speaker 2: so why isn't he He hasn't been able to play

1454
01:10:50,680 --> 01:10:54,439
Speaker 2: and the Orlando Magic didn't unleash him because he wasn't

1455
01:10:54,880 --> 01:10:57,280
Speaker 2: able to stick on the floor for many minutes. So

1456
01:10:57,920 --> 01:11:02,080
Speaker 2: that's what's over. And he's done in Orlando, who have

1457
01:11:02,160 --> 01:11:04,479
Speaker 2: to save money because of all these contracts that they've

1458
01:11:04,479 --> 01:11:08,599
Speaker 2: got to Baine and Bronze and bron Carrow.

1459
01:11:08,960 --> 01:11:11,519
Speaker 1: So this is Yeah, he only played for the Orlando Magic.

1460
01:11:12,439 --> 01:11:14,960
Speaker 1: I would get ready to see Jonathan Isaac bouncing around

1461
01:11:15,000 --> 01:11:18,080
Speaker 1: the NBA here for the next second part of his career.

1462
01:11:18,280 --> 01:11:18,840
Speaker 2: Older than I.

1463
01:11:18,960 --> 01:11:23,200
Speaker 1: Right, he's twenty eight, right, yeah, yeah, now nearly twenty nine.

1464
01:11:23,280 --> 01:11:25,120
Speaker 1: He'll be twenty nine by the start next season, so yeah,

1465
01:11:25,160 --> 01:11:26,719
Speaker 1: little older and I thought too, I mean, missed two.

1466
01:11:26,680 --> 01:11:29,360
Speaker 2: Years, two full seasons, so I have a.

1467
01:11:29,360 --> 01:11:30,800
Speaker 1: Feeling he's gonna be one of these guys. It's just

1468
01:11:30,800 --> 01:11:32,880
Speaker 1: gonna be on a lot of rosters here moving forward.

1469
01:11:32,920 --> 01:11:34,960
Speaker 1: They'll be like there's a need, Like he's obviously a

1470
01:11:34,960 --> 01:11:38,559
Speaker 1: defensive mining guy, incredible timing and length and all that,

1471
01:11:38,640 --> 01:11:41,920
Speaker 1: but yeah, he's a liability on the offensive. Then and

1472
01:11:41,960 --> 01:11:45,920
Speaker 1: then final piece of news here, the Hawks are also

1473
01:11:46,120 --> 01:11:50,080
Speaker 1: guaranteeing Buddy Heal's yeah, nine point sixty five million dollars

1474
01:11:50,120 --> 01:11:53,560
Speaker 1: salary for this coming season. This is a little perplexing

1475
01:11:53,600 --> 01:11:56,400
Speaker 1: because he was not played at all after they acquired

1476
01:11:56,439 --> 01:11:59,760
Speaker 1: him basically from Golden State at the trade deadline. So

1477
01:12:00,000 --> 01:12:02,559
Speaker 1: a lot of people are going, is there a trade

1478
01:12:02,560 --> 01:12:04,640
Speaker 1: coming from the Hawks here? Like this is why you

1479
01:12:04,680 --> 01:12:08,840
Speaker 1: sort of, you know, guarantee this money basically ten million,

1480
01:12:08,880 --> 01:12:12,120
Speaker 1: let's call it, because he could be rerouted in a

1481
01:12:12,479 --> 01:12:14,759
Speaker 1: trade and that's ten million you can use to obviously

1482
01:12:14,840 --> 01:12:16,080
Speaker 1: match salary and stuff like that.

1483
01:12:16,640 --> 01:12:18,439
Speaker 2: So a lot of people are wondering, are the Hawks

1484
01:12:18,520 --> 01:12:21,719
Speaker 2: not done or they got up their sleeve here? Yeah,

1485
01:12:21,760 --> 01:12:24,760
Speaker 2: the best it is odd, it's odd. It's surprising. Yeah.

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01:12:24,800 --> 01:12:26,559
Speaker 2: The best thing he did with as an Atlanta Hawk

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01:12:26,760 --> 01:12:29,800
Speaker 2: was shoot that one game. It was the eighty second

1488
01:12:29,800 --> 01:12:33,559
Speaker 2: game of the season. He shot eighteen times thirty one points.

1489
01:12:33,640 --> 01:12:36,479
Speaker 2: He was on fire at seven threes. Other than that,

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01:12:36,520 --> 01:12:38,400
Speaker 2: it is surprising that he would be coming back any buddy.

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01:12:38,439 --> 01:12:41,559
Speaker 1: Heils great for vibes. Yeah, he's not a vibe killer. No,

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01:12:41,640 --> 01:12:45,639
Speaker 1: I think that's good. But like to pay him and

1493
01:12:45,720 --> 01:12:49,960
Speaker 1: what Corey Kissbert like a combined what would it be

1494
01:12:50,080 --> 01:12:52,840
Speaker 1: like twenty four million dollars? Not like that seems that

1495
01:12:52,920 --> 01:12:55,519
Speaker 1: shit crazy. It's like, why why you're not going to

1496
01:12:55,600 --> 01:12:58,160
Speaker 1: keep both of them, let alone one of them.

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01:12:58,280 --> 01:13:01,040
Speaker 2: So that's a good point about the Corey Yeah making

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01:13:01,040 --> 01:13:05,160
Speaker 2: fourteen million next ye? Yes, okay, So yeah, it's questionable

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01:13:05,240 --> 01:13:07,920
Speaker 2: what they're going to do. And this may have already

1500
01:13:07,960 --> 01:13:11,000
Speaker 2: happened if you're listening to the podcast, but they still

1501
01:13:11,000 --> 01:13:14,559
Speaker 2: have to decide on Jonathan Kaminge's team options, right, right, right,

1502
01:13:14,880 --> 01:13:18,559
Speaker 2: that's a very interesting number at twenty four million dollars.

1503
01:13:18,640 --> 01:13:24,120
Speaker 2: So what are they doing Otherwise? We're looking like the

1504
01:13:24,160 --> 01:13:27,880
Speaker 2: same team going forward here because they still lack size,

1505
01:13:30,160 --> 01:13:33,640
Speaker 2: full stop, I'm done talking. Look Jalen Johnson again on

1506
01:13:33,760 --> 01:13:36,559
Speaker 2: Yaka Kongu coming back. They need to get a little bigger.

1507
01:13:38,600 --> 01:13:40,120
Speaker 2: You know, Zoobi edge of four is going to be

1508
01:13:40,160 --> 01:13:42,320
Speaker 2: fun to watch as a backup center. We'll see what

1509
01:13:42,360 --> 01:13:45,120
Speaker 2: he can do. He could be awesome, but they definitely

1510
01:13:45,160 --> 01:13:46,600
Speaker 2: needs some size.

1511
01:13:46,840 --> 01:13:49,880
Speaker 1: Okay, well, let's call it there. The only thing else

1512
01:13:49,880 --> 01:13:51,360
Speaker 1: I had in my notes is that the Heat have

1513
01:13:51,400 --> 01:13:55,720
Speaker 1: their eye on Mike Conley and Tim Hardaway possibility. I mean,

1514
01:13:55,760 --> 01:13:57,400
Speaker 1: they're obviously got to fill out the rest of the roster.

1515
01:13:57,880 --> 01:14:00,479
Speaker 1: Could see both those guys making some sense and being

1516
01:14:00,479 --> 01:14:03,200
Speaker 1: affordable enough. And the Spurs have their eye on really

1517
01:14:03,240 --> 01:14:08,080
Speaker 1: Hatchamura and John Collins. It does feel like to me

1518
01:14:08,160 --> 01:14:09,720
Speaker 1: John Collins at one point will be on the San

1519
01:14:09,760 --> 01:14:12,960
Speaker 1: Antonio Spurs. I don't know why, just I can picture it.

1520
01:14:12,960 --> 01:14:14,519
Speaker 1: I can see it, and it makes sense to me.

1521
01:14:14,640 --> 01:14:17,439
Speaker 1: But you know, maybe if I don't know, they strike

1522
01:14:17,479 --> 01:14:20,479
Speaker 1: out on a potential Kawhi Leonard sort of deal, they

1523
01:14:20,600 --> 01:14:23,040
Speaker 1: pivot to something much more affordable off one of those guys.

1524
01:14:23,120 --> 01:14:24,000
Speaker 1: That's all I got.

1525
01:14:23,800 --> 01:14:27,720
Speaker 2: For you right now. Yeah, John Collins, it fits on

1526
01:14:27,800 --> 01:14:31,600
Speaker 2: the Spurs. He would take Harrison Barnes role, really, but

1527
01:14:31,720 --> 01:14:34,679
Speaker 2: he would be getting a huge pay cut. It seems

1528
01:14:34,680 --> 01:14:37,880
Speaker 2: like at this point of his career, no things for

1529
01:14:38,080 --> 01:14:41,559
Speaker 2: flying with the Atlanta Hawks. Was that an aviation joke? Yeah,

1530
01:14:41,680 --> 01:14:44,320
Speaker 2: content good one. No it wasn't. But yeah, that was

1531
01:14:44,320 --> 01:14:47,760
Speaker 2: an unfortunate he wasn't flying there. No, he wants he

1532
01:14:47,840 --> 01:14:51,439
Speaker 2: kicked that things. But it's nine years for him and

1533
01:14:51,479 --> 01:14:54,479
Speaker 2: he feels young enough to get a good contract. So

1534
01:14:55,600 --> 01:14:57,479
Speaker 2: I don't know if the Spurs would be at this

1535
01:14:57,600 --> 01:15:00,479
Speaker 2: time able to give him enough because I think he'd

1536
01:15:00,479 --> 01:15:03,160
Speaker 2: get out bid by somebody, but or they would get

1537
01:15:03,160 --> 01:15:04,120
Speaker 2: out bid by somebody.

1538
01:15:05,240 --> 01:15:08,439
Speaker 1: Well maybe we'll learn tomorrow where John Collins, Where John

1539
01:15:08,479 --> 01:15:11,040
Speaker 1: Collins goes, because we're gonna call it here for now.

1540
01:15:11,080 --> 01:15:13,640
Speaker 1: We did a lot of slop, a lot of transactions.

1541
01:15:14,080 --> 01:15:16,160
Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us live on YouTube. Hit the like button,

1542
01:15:16,800 --> 01:15:19,240
Speaker 1: make sure you subscribe, share the show, five star ratings

1543
01:15:19,240 --> 01:15:21,400
Speaker 1: and reviews. Everybody knows the drill by now here's the

1544
01:15:21,439 --> 01:15:25,120
Speaker 1: plan Les, there's an emergency podcast. I mean, I am

1545
01:15:25,120 --> 01:15:27,599
Speaker 1: still one hundred percent convinced Jillen Brown is getting traded

1546
01:15:27,640 --> 01:15:31,040
Speaker 1: at some point. If that happens, we'll do an emergency

1547
01:15:31,040 --> 01:15:36,920
Speaker 1: podcast otherwise Tomorrow, Tuesday, June thirtieth. Yep, that's correct. We're

1548
01:15:36,920 --> 01:15:39,840
Speaker 1: gonna be here at five thirty pm Eastern, so no

1549
01:15:40,000 --> 01:15:44,720
Speaker 1: morning show instead. We'll go right up against the official start.

1550
01:15:44,400 --> 01:15:45,200
Speaker 2: Of free agencies. Though.

1551
01:15:45,200 --> 01:15:47,519
Speaker 1: It's so funny now with all these like a lot

1552
01:15:47,520 --> 01:15:49,840
Speaker 1: of these deals can be agreed to if you're on

1553
01:15:49,880 --> 01:15:53,160
Speaker 1: your own team, right, yeah, yeah, So we'll go live

1554
01:15:53,200 --> 01:15:56,320
Speaker 1: at five thirty. We'll do the podcast as the news

1555
01:15:56,360 --> 01:15:59,719
Speaker 1: sport hopefully continues to trickle in. Maybe some big things happen,

1556
01:16:00,120 --> 01:16:01,799
Speaker 1: so we'll do an hour, hour and a half whatever,

1557
01:16:02,520 --> 01:16:05,400
Speaker 1: and then we'll be back on Wednesday to do more

1558
01:16:05,439 --> 01:16:07,400
Speaker 1: of the recap because a lot of other stuff happens

1559
01:16:07,439 --> 01:16:08,840
Speaker 1: that night and stuff like that. I mean, it's a

1560
01:16:08,840 --> 01:16:10,880
Speaker 1: start a free agency, It's not like it only happens

1561
01:16:10,880 --> 01:16:13,880
Speaker 1: in that next six hour window, right. Who knows what

1562
01:16:13,960 --> 01:16:16,519
Speaker 1: to expect, is what I'm getting that here. TK should

1563
01:16:16,520 --> 01:16:18,320
Speaker 1: be here though, and we'll go over everything.

1564
01:16:18,479 --> 01:16:22,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, we could have a trade happen as we drive home.

1565
01:16:23,720 --> 01:16:28,400
Speaker 2: As DJ Gary Oak says in the stream, team Kawhi

1566
01:16:28,439 --> 01:16:31,000
Speaker 2: is going to get traded on their drive home. That

1567
01:16:31,120 --> 01:16:33,479
Speaker 2: warrants an emergency for sure.

1568
01:16:34,120 --> 01:16:40,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, let's let's say Jellen Brown, Kawhi Leonard, Yeah,

1569
01:16:40,320 --> 01:16:42,360
Speaker 1: John Morant.

1570
01:16:42,520 --> 01:16:44,920
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, because it's probably going to be a

1571
01:16:44,960 --> 01:16:47,120
Speaker 2: good team that takes a chance. So we could be

1572
01:16:47,160 --> 01:16:49,200
Speaker 2: talking about John on the heat.

1573
01:16:49,360 --> 01:16:52,719
Speaker 1: Lebron to the Warriors. Oh, it's Anthony Davis trade.

1574
01:16:53,000 --> 01:16:57,720
Speaker 2: Probably Anthony Davis did a little bit. Well, I just

1575
01:16:57,720 --> 01:16:59,880
Speaker 2: want to know if he gave us an emergency trade

1576
01:17:01,360 --> 01:17:04,880
Speaker 2: podcast in February, right, I'm just trying to think back.

1577
01:17:04,960 --> 01:17:07,400
Speaker 2: He's gonna give us two emergency podcasts in four months.

1578
01:17:07,720 --> 01:17:10,479
Speaker 2: I think he did when he was traded to the Wizards.

1579
01:17:10,600 --> 01:17:13,280
Speaker 2: That's all. That's my only point. What do you think

1580
01:17:13,400 --> 01:17:17,479
Speaker 2: a D Wizards legend? A D is mL doomsday? Says

1581
01:17:17,520 --> 01:17:19,880
Speaker 2: here on the stream, I don't know.

1582
01:17:20,160 --> 01:17:22,640
Speaker 1: Well, this Ghost Warriors angle is crazy to me, but

1583
01:17:23,360 --> 01:17:25,679
Speaker 1: also very exciting. So I wanted to happen.

1584
01:17:26,280 --> 01:17:29,320
Speaker 2: Lebron was awesome last year, so he warrants it. He

1585
01:17:29,840 --> 01:17:33,559
Speaker 2: warrants one. But does a D that's the question, or we.

1586
01:17:33,560 --> 01:17:36,639
Speaker 1: Just lump them yeah, if it happens anyway, it feels

1587
01:17:36,680 --> 01:17:40,720
Speaker 1: like it's like a joint joint collaboration here. If if

1588
01:17:40,760 --> 01:17:42,759
Speaker 1: I don't know, one goes to them, maybe the others

1589
01:17:42,800 --> 01:17:44,759
Speaker 1: going to Lebron.

1590
01:17:45,479 --> 01:17:48,120
Speaker 2: Yeah it's different. When you said that, I'm thinking, no,

1591
01:17:48,160 --> 01:17:49,920
Speaker 2: they're both going to sign there as free agents. Lebron's

1592
01:17:49,920 --> 01:17:51,600
Speaker 2: gonna take less money. But Anthony Davis has to be

1593
01:17:51,640 --> 01:17:54,440
Speaker 2: a trade. So yeah, maybe it is a collapse.

1594
01:17:55,520 --> 01:17:57,400
Speaker 1: I'll just tell you this. If John Collins gets traded,

1595
01:17:57,439 --> 01:17:57,920
Speaker 1: we're not doing.

1596
01:17:57,840 --> 01:18:00,960
Speaker 2: An emergency podcast. Okay, Well, he's a free agent, so

1597
01:18:00,960 --> 01:18:02,759
Speaker 2: he's not gonna be signing. He's not gonna be traded,

1598
01:18:02,760 --> 01:18:04,560
Speaker 2: I should say, So what if he gets signed to

1599
01:18:04,640 --> 01:18:07,479
Speaker 2: sign a trade? Yeah, I guess what about if he's

1600
01:18:07,479 --> 01:18:10,040
Speaker 2: a free agent? Nah? Sorry John, No, we'll just talk

1601
01:18:10,040 --> 01:18:10,679
Speaker 2: about it tomorrow.

1602
01:18:11,320 --> 01:18:14,720
Speaker 1: Join us five thirty pm. Until then, Clipper bros. You

1603
01:18:14,760 --> 01:18:17,240
Speaker 1: heard it here first, have a great time, turn up,

1604
01:18:17,400 --> 01:18:18,679
Speaker 1: Love you guys, awesome.

1605
01:18:19,000 --> 01:18:23,040
Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us, and remember we're ready for emergency podcasts.

1606
01:18:23,439 --> 01:18:27,920
Speaker 2: Although when Burdo eats on the stream, team says, wait

1607
01:18:28,120 --> 01:18:33,120
Speaker 2: exclamation point, it ain't happening. I am waiting Burdo eats.

1608
01:18:33,200 --> 01:18:35,360
Speaker 2: We're at it here. There hasn't been one that has happened,

1609
01:18:35,439 --> 01:18:38,759
Speaker 2: but you can't fool me. Burto Josh might not, Oh.

1610
01:18:38,800 --> 01:18:41,479
Speaker 1: Josh, sign with the Nets two years, nine million dollars.

1611
01:18:41,840 --> 01:18:43,960
Speaker 2: Might not Let's do it right now.

1612
01:18:44,040 --> 01:18:46,760
Speaker 1: Russell Westbrook might not. All right, We'll see you guys

1613
01:18:46,800 --> 01:18:49,920
Speaker 1: tomorrow afternoon, or with an emergency podcast. Brace today, people,