1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:05,040 Speaker 1: With roughly one thousand employees across sixty six countries. Bowing 2 00:00:05,040 --> 00:00:08,520 Speaker 1: airplanes and aerospace products represent one of the most visible 3 00:00:08,560 --> 00:00:12,400 Speaker 1: and important US exports to the globe, and as CEO 4 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:16,160 Speaker 1: of the roughly ninety three billion dollar company, Dennis Muhlenberg 5 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:19,239 Speaker 1: is in charge of securing the Planemaker's future in both 6 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 1: the commercial and military sectors, overseeing the rollout of A seven, 7 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:26,440 Speaker 1: eight seven and the Max ten, and securing a nearly 8 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 1: four billion dollar contract to build a new air force 9 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 1: one for the presidents. Since he became CEO in Before 10 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:38,519 Speaker 1: becoming chief executive, Muhlenberg held various roles at boeing, from 11 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 1: president of the company's Defense, Space and Security division to 12 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 1: director of the weapons system for the proposed Bowing Joint 13 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 1: Strike fighter aircraft. He recently sat down with Carlisle Group 14 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:52,840 Speaker 1: co founder David Rubinstein. They spoke on David Rubinstein's Bloomberg 15 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 1: television program Peer to Peer Conversations. Since you've been the CEO, 16 00:00:57,360 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 1: the market capitalization of the company is up about the 17 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 1: stock prices up about a hundred and yet you also 18 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 1: ride a hundred and twenty miles a week in a bicycle. 19 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 1: Have you thought about how much higher the stock price 20 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 1: would be or the market cap if you didn't spend 21 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 1: those time on the hundred and twenty miles a week 22 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 1: in bike book riding, Well, I have thought about that, 23 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 1: and actually I ride closer to a hundred forty a week, 24 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 1: and with that correlation, I'm thinking I should start writing 25 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:37,400 Speaker 1: two hundred a week. Wow. Okay, all right, Well, um 26 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 1: so does I mean riding bikes? I've done probably ten 27 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:47,039 Speaker 1: miles in my lifetime maybe something like that. But um so, 28 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 1: isn't it dangerous? I mean they have key Man insurance 29 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 1: on you, your important person. I ride more than ten 30 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 1: thousand miles a year, so I'm safety conscious and uh, 31 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 1: you know that's a well honed skill. And you know, 32 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 1: one of the things we take pride in our companies 33 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 1: are is our safety record. And I try to apply 34 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 1: the same thing when I'm riding. And it's a great 35 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 1: way to relax and think and frankly, I think, uh, 36 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 1: taking time to exercise and ride my bike, Uh, it 37 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 1: makes me better as a leader, and I try to 38 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 1: encourage that in our team as well. When did you 39 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 1: take this up? Uh as a young man or you're 40 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 1: always interested in this, I've been riding for probably years. Seriously, 41 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:29,680 Speaker 1: I often travel with my bike and I can drum 42 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 1: up some Bowing riders at almost any one of our sites, 43 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:34,800 Speaker 1: and we hand out Bowing jerseys. It's a great way 44 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 1: to get out with the team. Any of them ever 45 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 1: go faster than you, or they're not allowed to do that. 46 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 1: Some try, some try they're still with the company, or yeah, yeah, yeah, 47 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 1: I like a challenge. M One other thing that I 48 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:53,080 Speaker 1: found unusual and reading about you is that you seem 49 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 1: to be fueled by diet mountain dew. You drink enormous amounts. 50 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:00,920 Speaker 1: It is one of my favorite drinks. So you have 51 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:03,640 Speaker 1: some here? Um, is there something in it that I 52 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:06,359 Speaker 1: don't know about? But went to look? I mean, if 53 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 1: I what I looked like you? If I could drink 54 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 1: the diet mountain dew, You're sure? All right? Now? Hey, 55 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 1: it's good. It's it's a good energizer for me. You 56 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 1: serve those everywhere at Boeing. Assume they have that pretty much. 57 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 1: So let's talk about the company you're you're leading now. 58 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:28,959 Speaker 1: The company is an extraordinary success story started by Mr 59 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:31,359 Speaker 1: Bowing many many years ago. The company is how old now? 60 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 1: We're a hundred and two years this year, so we 61 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 1: celebrated our centennial. We did a big celebration event at 62 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 1: the Red Barn facility, which is where the Bowing company 63 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 1: started back in nineteen sixteen. Okay, so the company is 64 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 1: in very very good shape. The government is spending more 65 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 1: money in aerospace defense and before um people are flying 66 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 1: more than they are. So can it get a you 67 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 1: better than this? I tell you what, this is a 68 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 1: really strong marketplace. When I look at big industrial markets 69 00:03:56,880 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 1: around the world, aerospace market I think it is the strongest. 70 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 1: And one of the big drivers behind that is is 71 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 1: the population that's now entering the middle class and has 72 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 1: the ability to fly. And we have a hundred million 73 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 1: new passengers every year in Asia new passengers, and uh 74 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 1: our estimates are that less than twenty of the world's 75 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 1: population has even taken a single flight. So tremendous growth 76 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:22,920 Speaker 1: opportunity ahead. And then, as you said, strengthen the defense 77 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 1: budget as well. The tax bill was passed and it's 78 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 1: a big tax cut for a lot of corporations, and 79 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 1: you were one of the companies that I think benefited 80 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 1: from it. And maybe we're pushing for this tax cut. 81 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 1: So what are you gonna do with all the extra 82 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 1: money that you have. So we plowed a lot of 83 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:39,480 Speaker 1: those savings back into innovation in R and D, and 84 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 1: we spend billions of dollars every year on R and 85 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 1: D investment here in the US. And another big thing 86 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 1: we did is immediately upon passage of the bill, we 87 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 1: announced an investment of three hundred million dollars in our 88 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 1: workforce and workplace. So that includes a hundred million in 89 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 1: training for employees, a hundred million in infrastructure for the 90 00:04:57,440 --> 00:05:01,719 Speaker 1: future workspaces, and then a hundred million in community giving, 91 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:04,160 Speaker 1: which is perhaps the most important part of that. And 92 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 1: UH that hundred million in community giving. Fact, today we're 93 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 1: going to be announcing the fact that we're identifying fifty 94 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:15,599 Speaker 1: four million of specific grants and we're adding another five 95 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:19,239 Speaker 1: million dollars to our investment in the Kennedy Center announced 96 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:26,920 Speaker 1: I UH if you if you ever need tickets to Hamilton's, 97 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:32,039 Speaker 1: call me deal. So let's talk about how UH, a 98 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 1: farm boy from Iowa became the head of Boeing. So 99 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:39,160 Speaker 1: you grew up in Iowa. I did up in northwest Iowa, 100 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 1: just outside of a little town called Shoe Center, and 101 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 1: UH grew up on a farm, working on my dad's farm. 102 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:47,360 Speaker 1: What kind of farm wasn't Well, we had a large 103 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 1: crop farm. Mostly we raised corn, soybeans, alfalfa, and we 104 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:55,920 Speaker 1: had a lot of live stock, cattle, pigs, chickens, and 105 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 1: you were milking cows and everything. Every morning. I had 106 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 1: to milk cows. We uh we uh milked our own 107 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 1: cows for for our family's consumption. So that was part 108 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 1: of my daily chores in the morning. And you ever 109 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:11,480 Speaker 1: said to them drink some mountain dew and they the 110 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 1: cows will produce, cows would be more productive or that. 111 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:16,920 Speaker 1: That wasn't part of the diet plan when I was 112 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:19,600 Speaker 1: a kid there, all right, So you went to Iowa State, 113 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:23,360 Speaker 1: I did, And Iowa State you meant, uh you majored 114 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 1: in aeronautica space engineering. Okay, so were there a lot 115 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 1: of people doing that there? Yeah, it's it's it was 116 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:33,160 Speaker 1: at that time one of the larger aerospace engineering schools 117 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 1: in the country. Continues to be. It does have some 118 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 1: bowing connections to T. A. Wilson, who was one of 119 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 1: one of Boeing's previous CEOs. Uh. He went to Iowa 120 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:47,599 Speaker 1: State and uh, I actually when I went there, managed 121 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:51,279 Speaker 1: somehow to get his scholarship and Uh. That led to 122 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:54,600 Speaker 1: an opportunity for a Bowing internship. So between my junior 123 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 1: and senior years at Iowa State, I did an internship 124 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 1: at Bowing in Seattle, and I got hooked. Okay, I've 125 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:03,160 Speaker 1: been there ever since. Well, you you've got a master's 126 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 1: degree at the University of Washington. Was that while you 127 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 1: were working at Boeing. Yeah, that was part of Boeing's education. 128 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 1: While you're working plan what was it that enabled you 129 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 1: to rise up among all those employees to be the 130 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 1: CEO you're implying it's hard to tell. Well, I just 131 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 1: want to give you a chance to tell everybody that 132 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 1: I already know well David, and you know frankly, Um, 133 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 1: I never worried too much about that. So I was 134 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 1: thrilled to go work at the world's best scerospace company. 135 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 1: I wanted to be a great designer of airplanes. I 136 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 1: had the chance to work with a lot of great 137 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 1: teams along the way, and I always tried to, you know, 138 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 1: find the hardest things to work on and just concentrate 139 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 1: on knocking that job out of the park. And that 140 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 1: may not sound like much of a career strategy, but 141 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 1: it worn't worked out. Okay, So at a very young age, 142 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 1: you were put in charge of running a program for 143 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 1: Boeing where they were trying to get the Joint Strike 144 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 1: UH fighter contract, which is the biggest contract the Pentagon's 145 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 1: every even Ultimately it went to another company called Lockheed Martin. Yep, 146 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 1: So you lost. When you lost, did you think your 147 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 1: career was over now? And it really wasn't even my 148 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 1: construct around that program. But in four years we went 149 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 1: from roughly a clean sheet of paper to flying two 150 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 1: x thirty two prototypes and uh clearly disappointed that in 151 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 1: the end we didn't win. But I learned a lot 152 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 1: as a leader, and you know, sometimes when things don't 153 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 1: work out, you learn even more. I can tell you 154 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 1: that the technology benefit from that program, the talent benefit, 155 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 1: how those people then subsequently spread out to the rest 156 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:39,200 Speaker 1: of billing. He created a benefit that's lasted for for decades. 157 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:42,840 Speaker 1: Early in the administration of President Trump said that the 158 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 1: Air Force one plane was too expensive and he wasn't 159 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 1: happy with the cost of it. Um, he got your attention. 160 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:52,440 Speaker 1: I guess we're we're proud of the fact that we 161 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 1: build and support Air Force one. It's a really important mission. 162 00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 1: The airplanes that are flying today. Are old seven forty 163 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 1: seven Dash two hundred actually delivered under George H. W. 164 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:06,560 Speaker 1: Bush's administration. They're that old old at seven forty seven 165 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 1: is flying and we're proud to keep him flying. And 166 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:13,080 Speaker 1: so the two new uh seven forty seven Dash eights, 167 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 1: the latest version of the seven seven where I just procured, 168 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:19,680 Speaker 1: and those will be modified and become the new air 169 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:22,199 Speaker 1: Force one over the next few years. So did you 170 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 1: convinced him to take up mike riding when you were 171 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 1: in marloggue? He didn't seem like that interested in that. 172 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 1: He is. He has his own hobby set and we 173 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:36,439 Speaker 1: uh we uh we respect each other's hobbies. Alright. Airbus 174 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 1: is your main competitor, is that right? Yeah? And in 175 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 1: the commercial airplane commercial air airper space. Have you ever 176 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:45,320 Speaker 1: tested out any airbuses? I've I've flown on him. Uh, 177 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 1: you know, It's not something I spent a lot of 178 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:52,199 Speaker 1: time pursuing. Uh, but I would I would suggest if 179 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 1: you were to, you know, survey the crowd people that 180 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 1: have flown on both Airbus and Bowing generally the reports 181 00:09:57,640 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 1: that are people like flying on a Bowing airplane? All right, 182 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:04,719 Speaker 1: but that's see how many people here prefer bowing. Okay, okay, 183 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:08,320 Speaker 1: I guess I guess you're right on that they and 184 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:11,079 Speaker 1: you have had what some people might call it duopoly, 185 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 1: which is really two manufacturers. Um, are you not worried 186 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 1: that the Chinese or the Japanese will ultimately get into 187 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:21,560 Speaker 1: this business of making commercial airplanes. Well, we know that 188 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 1: future competitors are coming without question. And uh, you know, 189 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 1: the great thing is we have a very strong marketplace. 190 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 1: It's about a seven point six trillion dollar marketplace over 191 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 1: the next ten years. It's a growing industrial marketplace. It's 192 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 1: a marketplace that creates manufacturing jobs and technology ripple benefit. 193 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 1: China is clearly emerging as a very important commercial market 194 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 1: for us. They are also a future competitor. So the 195 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 1: the art of this business is to collaborate and compete, 196 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 1: and competition is going to make us better. The point 197 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 1: that the world is pursuing the aerospace market, uh, just 198 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:59,720 Speaker 1: causes us to continue to invest in innovation. We win 199 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:02,600 Speaker 1: because we continue to invest in innovation. We want a 200 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 1: big contract to produce air tank These are refueling planes 201 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 1: that enable our planes to be refueled. But it's behind 202 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 1: schedule or not. Well, we've had some challenges in the 203 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 1: development program, so we're behind the original schedule, but we 204 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 1: are on the cusp now of delivery. So I'm excited 205 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 1: to see this happen. Explane is how it works. You're 206 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 1: flying along on an airplane and they have another plane 207 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 1: come along. It's gonna refuel it. How hard is it 208 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 1: to get that little thing in there? Or combat operations 209 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:35,319 Speaker 1: or air force operations. Obviously the skill of the pilot 210 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 1: the receiver of the fuel is important, and then the 211 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 1: new advanced systems on the new tanker assist with that. 212 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 1: So the refueling boom is more than fifty feet long, 213 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 1: it extends out of the back of the airplane. It 214 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 1: has wings on it, so you actually fly it, and 215 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 1: there's an operator inside the tanker that flies the boom 216 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 1: to the airplane and makes the connection. We've done more 217 00:11:57,400 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 1: than connections during the test program already, so that's part 218 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 1: of certifying the tanker. Do you make the F fifteen Okay, 219 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 1: have you ever been in that plane? Or I've had 220 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 1: a couple of flights in the F fifteen Eagle backseat, right, 221 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:17,680 Speaker 1: so flying with a Boeing pilot, but a chance flying 222 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:21,559 Speaker 1: the F fifteen Eagle and in our F eighteen super horriant. Uh, 223 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 1: I flowed in a patchie helicopter a few others to us, 224 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 1: what are the great parts of this job? Because I 225 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:29,200 Speaker 1: occasionally get to fly. So when they do a barrel roll, 226 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 1: what is that like? Does I feel like fun? Or 227 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 1: is that's little nerve? That's fantastic? Yeah, in a in 228 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 1: a fighter jet, it's not really a barrel roll. It's 229 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 1: more of a snap roll, right luster. But uh yeah, 230 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 1: we uh, we had the chance to go up and 231 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 1: do a few maneuvers. The pilot that flies the CEO 232 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 1: has had a special job or they tell the pilot 233 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 1: be very careful, this is the CEO, and time that 234 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:54,320 Speaker 1: goes wrong, your job is over. We have great test pilots, 235 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:58,079 Speaker 1: all right, yeah, and and it's it's it's nice to 236 00:12:58,120 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 1: go up on one of these tests because you kind 237 00:12:59,880 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 1: of get calibrated. They get you accustomed to the airplane. Now, 238 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 1: let's take the Boeing plane that most people are probably 239 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 1: familiar with, the seven thirty seven or seven forty seven 240 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 1: so forth. On those planes, um, can they ever be 241 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 1: flown without a pilot? Well, we we were going to 242 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:16,320 Speaker 1: continue to have a strong need for pilots in fact, 243 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 1: pilots are in short supply worldwide for commercial airplanes. Uh. 244 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 1: That said, we're also continuously working on these autonomous vehicle technologies. 245 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:27,559 Speaker 1: So there's a lot of automation already in today's airplanes 246 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:31,319 Speaker 1: that can assist the pilot, and that technology continues to 247 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 1: mature rapidly, so we're building it into our future airplanes. 248 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 1: Have you ever thought of having the bathrooms in the 249 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:40,200 Speaker 1: planes bigger? Because I noticed they're really small. You know, 250 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 1: if you want to change clothes or something to get 251 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:43,840 Speaker 1: ready for somebody else, it's really hard. Has that ever 252 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:47,680 Speaker 1: been a problem anybody's mentioned plane? Again, our our airline 253 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 1: customers typically select the laboratory geometry, and we we support that. 254 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 1: I will say, if if you'd like to get a 255 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 1: b b J, we could tailor the laboratory for you 256 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:02,719 Speaker 1: so more flexibility. You have people that can you can 257 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:04,320 Speaker 1: try it out for like six months and see if 258 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 1: you like the DBJ befall you. You don't have that 259 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:11,200 Speaker 1: program for first select customer. So let's talk about the 260 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 1: space program. NASA isn't doing everything it used to do. 261 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 1: Um is the commercial sector? Are you now actually designing 262 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 1: the missile, the rockets and what is the plan that 263 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 1: you have is to take out a rocket to the 264 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 1: Moon again and to Mars. I think this is the 265 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 1: most exciting time in h in our country space program 266 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 1: in decades, and we're literally working on things now that 267 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 1: are bigger than the Apollo program. I'm not sure it's 268 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 1: as well known across the country, but we are in 269 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 1: the midst of a space transformation in this country, and 270 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 1: the commercial UH entrants here are adding energy. We're building 271 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:48,240 Speaker 1: a new CST one D star Liner, which will be 272 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:51,000 Speaker 1: the first American made capsule to get us back to 273 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 1: the space station. And we're building the new rocket to 274 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 1: Mars with NASA and this new space Lodge system. It's 275 00:14:56,960 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 1: a rocket that's about thirty eight stories tall, about nine 276 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 1: point two million pounds of thrust. You want to put 277 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 1: that in car urbs. It's a about two hundred seven 278 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 1: thousand Corvette engines, and UH we're gonna do first test 279 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 1: launch here over the next couple of years. We're gonna 280 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:16,400 Speaker 1: do a slingshot mission to the Moon, returned to the Moon, 281 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 1: set up a lunar gateway, and then we're gonna go 282 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 1: to Mars, and the first person to step foot on 283 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:23,760 Speaker 1: Mars is going to get there on a bowing rocket. 284 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 1: Really well, they come back on a bowing rocket, all right. Um, 285 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:33,960 Speaker 1: and and in uh, in Boeing's version of the space business, 286 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 1: it's always a two way trip, okay, but it takes 287 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 1: six months to get the Mars more or less right, 288 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 1: six months on that order. Okay, Remember there was a 289 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:46,239 Speaker 1: plane called the Concorde. Why do we not have a 290 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 1: supersonic transport any Long's it's the economic hurdle that goes 291 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:53,760 Speaker 1: with it. That airplane was never economically viable on its own, 292 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 1: and UH, to fly supersonic you burn two to three 293 00:15:57,120 --> 00:16:00,200 Speaker 1: times as much fuel. I do envision a day where 294 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 1: not only will we see commercial airplanes that look like 295 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:05,880 Speaker 1: today's airplanes, but we'll see high speed airplanes that connect 296 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 1: any two cities in the world in about two hours. 297 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 1: And then we'll see that span up to UH space tourism, 298 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 1: and eventually we'll see an economically viable space ecosystem in 299 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 1: lower thorbit and UH you'll see an intersection between commercial 300 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 1: air travel, high speed travel, and space travel. And that's 301 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:26,880 Speaker 1: all going to evolve over the next couple of decades. 302 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 1: You had a very nice name called Dreamliner. I mean, 303 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 1: if somebody thought that up it was. It sounds great. Um, 304 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 1: but how come you to name your other planes? Like 305 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 1: the seven forty seven doesn't have a nice name like 306 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 1: that or seven thirty seven. How come you don't have 307 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:41,160 Speaker 1: a name for all of them? Well, maybe that's something 308 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 1: we'll look at. Well, can I get a fee for 309 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 1: coming up with that idea or something? Yeah, we could 310 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 1: consider that, all right, could be you know again, if 311 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:52,640 Speaker 1: you want to get into the b BJ market, that 312 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 1: could be some consideration. Well, I'm thinking about it. I 313 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 1: just need a six month trial. When you're talking to 314 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:02,200 Speaker 1: members of Congress for people in the administration, um are 315 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 1: what is the biggest concern that you have educating them 316 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 1: about what you actually do? Right now, trade policy is 317 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:10,919 Speaker 1: really important item for US, and as we think about 318 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:14,440 Speaker 1: effective trade agreements around the world, and certainly we want 319 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 1: to level playing field around the world. We want to 320 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 1: be able to compete and win. We have about of 321 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 1: our manufacturing here in the US, but we sell about 322 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 1: seventy of our products outside the US. So think about 323 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:32,720 Speaker 1: trade surplus. The aerospace sector creates the biggest trade surplus 324 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:35,480 Speaker 1: of any sector in the country, and so we need 325 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 1: trade agreements that allow us to compete globally to sell globally, 326 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 1: and that's part of what creates us manufacturing jobs. So 327 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 1: that's an area of discussion, active discussion right now. What 328 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:47,639 Speaker 1: about the tariffs. We don't see the current tariffs as 329 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:50,840 Speaker 1: having a material effect on our business, but it is 330 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:53,760 Speaker 1: something we're watching because it's the broader question of of 331 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 1: trade relationships and effective trade agreements around the world. So 332 00:17:57,680 --> 00:18:00,359 Speaker 1: we've seen a lot of leaders up front, business leaders, 333 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:03,960 Speaker 1: government leaders. What do you think makes a great leader? Well, 334 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 1: you know, I get to ask that question. I thought 335 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:09,960 Speaker 1: that was original. I thought nobody else that's a good question. Well, 336 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 1: you know, when I when I look at all the 337 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:15,080 Speaker 1: dimensions of being a leader, frankly, it goes back to 338 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:18,040 Speaker 1: a lot of what I learned growing up on that 339 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:20,439 Speaker 1: farm in Iowa. I learned a lot from my parents 340 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 1: and the value of hard work, integrity, how you treat 341 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:28,880 Speaker 1: other people, how we respect others, are willingness to bring 342 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 1: diverse ideas to the table. Those all sounds simple, and 343 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:35,960 Speaker 1: you know, things I learned from my dad, who was 344 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:39,960 Speaker 1: never a businessman, but they apply in the business world. 345 00:18:40,040 --> 00:18:43,640 Speaker 1: And I think sticking to those fundamentals and always reminding 346 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:47,800 Speaker 1: yourself the importance of integrity, your reputation, how you treat others, 347 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 1: and then having an element of being able to inspire, 348 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:54,160 Speaker 1: you know, those that work around you. And uh, we 349 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 1: we try to codify those at Boeing and what we 350 00:18:56,680 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 1: call our enduring values and our Bowing behaviors, but they 351 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:02,919 Speaker 1: get back to those fundamentals of who you are as 352 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:05,239 Speaker 1: a person and how you treat others. How did your 353 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 1: parents lived to see your success? They did. My my 354 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 1: father passed away a couple of years ago, but he 355 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:15,199 Speaker 1: lived a long, robust life, and my mom is still around. 356 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:17,919 Speaker 1: And I'm never quite sure they knew exactly what I 357 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 1: did when I started at bowing. Uh. Of course, coming 358 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:23,879 Speaker 1: from the farm, I started bowing my as an engineer, 359 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:26,200 Speaker 1: and my dad would often ask me, say, so, Dennis, 360 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 1: how did it go today? What did you do? And uh? 361 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:30,679 Speaker 1: I described it, and you know he would kind of 362 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:33,520 Speaker 1: get it, and uh, you know, his designing airplanes, it 363 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:36,440 Speaker 1: was real stuff. And then as I got to more 364 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 1: elevated positions, got two executive positions, he asked me the 365 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:42,399 Speaker 1: same questions and Dennis, what did you do today? And 366 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:44,679 Speaker 1: I describe it, and you know, I was excited about it. 367 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 1: He would pause and say well, Dennis, what did you 368 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:53,440 Speaker 1: actually do today. It's a good reminder, right, does your 369 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:55,440 Speaker 1: mother ever called you to say well, She's