1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Native Land Pod is a production of iHeartRadio in partnership 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 1: with Reason Choice Media. Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome. 3 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:10,719 Speaker 2: Welcome, Welcome, Hey, everybody. This episode is a replay of 4 00:00:10,720 --> 00:00:12,639 Speaker 2: one of our interviews from our live stream as a 5 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:17,320 Speaker 2: Congressional Black Caucus Foundation's Annual Legislative Conference. If you want 6 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:19,760 Speaker 2: to listen to or watch the full stream, check out 7 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:22,279 Speaker 2: the links in the episode description. You can also find 8 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:25,640 Speaker 2: a full list of all the guests we interviewed. Welcome home, y'all. 9 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 1: We got a whole Brothers panel right now. 10 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 2: We have I was gonna say, Congress, we said. We 11 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 2: have Garrison Hayes, who's a video correspondent for Mother Hayes. 12 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:41,559 Speaker 2: We have Chris Ray, who is the international president of 13 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 2: five Beta Sigma. You see him dapper in that blue 14 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:48,519 Speaker 2: and he's also the president of the Divine Nine Council 15 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:51,879 Speaker 2: of Presidents. Also, I don't know why Andrew is the 16 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 2: Welcome Committee. He needs to do it on Life's so. 17 00:00:55,440 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 1: He just doesn't care. I got a He has no 18 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 1: idea what I said. 19 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:05,039 Speaker 2: He wants to be the Welcome Committee, the Goodbye Committee. 20 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 3: The Hello Committee. 21 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:06,479 Speaker 2: I'm not listening to. 22 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:07,840 Speaker 1: You committee anyway. 23 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 2: Last, but certainly not least in my introductions doctor Wes Bellamy, 24 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 2: who is the public Policy chair for one hundred Black Men. 25 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 2: He brings his students here to this conference every single year. 26 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:22,560 Speaker 2: I have the great honor of being an EP on 27 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 2: his documentary more than a statue, and he's here, of 28 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 2: course with a kin take clock bowta. 29 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:28,319 Speaker 4: I love you. 30 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 5: And you guys are doing better. 31 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:32,959 Speaker 6: He looks better than. 32 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 2: How you look. So tell us about what's going on. Man, 33 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:40,400 Speaker 2: get close to get close before Yeah, we did. 34 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 4: I did. 35 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:44,959 Speaker 2: We were over there comedian talking about you should introduce 36 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 2: him to mister president. Now that he's back and he 37 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 2: knows that we actually did our black jobs. 38 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 1: You have to and before you leave, we have to 39 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 1: get a photo because my brother, I would be remiss. 40 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 1: My brother is a proud member of five Beta Sigma 41 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 1: Fraternity Incorporated players that georgiis. Yes, you and I have 42 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 1: to get a photo so I can send this listen. 43 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 7: First of all, thank you all so much for the 44 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 7: opportunity to hang out with you all right. 45 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:12,800 Speaker 3: Been following you all. 46 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:15,400 Speaker 7: Love what you're doing for the culture, Love the information 47 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 7: that you're sharing. I get to do my black job, 48 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 7: which is I'm the international president of Phive Beta Sigma. 49 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:26,080 Speaker 7: I get to serve as the president, the twentieth president 50 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:29,680 Speaker 7: of Barbara Scotia College, the home of Mary MacLeod Bethune, 51 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:34,359 Speaker 7: and now I am the chairman of the Council of Presidents. 52 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 7: He got a lot of jobs, a lot of black jobs, 53 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 7: a lot of black leading literally but just doing the 54 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 7: good work, doing the good work. 55 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:42,079 Speaker 3: And this this. 56 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 7: Man right here, who has you know, who has been 57 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 7: a big inspiration. I got caught up in this whole 58 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:50,240 Speaker 7: leadership chain when I had the opportunity service mayor of 59 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:54,080 Speaker 7: Spring Lake, North Carolina a few moons ago, and I 60 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 7: was plucked out of this whole obscurity because of Andrew 61 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 7: Gilliam And so just really glad that he was able 62 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 7: to put me and connect me with a group of 63 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:06,080 Speaker 7: amazing young people who have now I've been able to 64 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 7: grow up with in the fight. 65 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 4: And they all still design their own outfits. So let's 66 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:13,079 Speaker 4: just know everything is. 67 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 3: Purpose for him. Let's be clear. Let's be clear. 68 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 5: I'm super excited to be here. 69 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 6: One man, you know, with respect to our dear brother Andrew, 70 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 6: but he's everybody's big brother, honestly, man. And the work 71 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:27,639 Speaker 6: and what you put in. It is super appreciative. Tiffany, 72 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 6: you know how much I admire you and thank you. 73 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:30,079 Speaker 5: Man. 74 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:32,240 Speaker 6: I love both of y'all. But I'm gonna not gonna lie. 75 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 6: I love Angela and anybody messing with her, I'm gonna 76 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 6: find them. I was clear, but we'll see stop. 77 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 1: Joe. 78 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, y'all can't let me and Wing win. 79 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 6: But we really appreciate all the work and what you 80 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 6: all do, and we're excited to talk about, you know, 81 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 6: a lot of the collaborative work efforts that we have 82 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:00,200 Speaker 6: going on and not only getting brothers and since was 83 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 6: out the vote, but most importantly putting off for the 84 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 6: culture for these last fifty some. 85 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 8: Days here it is Yeah, I mean, I'm really happy 86 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:08,120 Speaker 8: to be here as well. It's great to be on 87 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 8: finally and make it happen. I mean, you guys are 88 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 8: doing something really special in that I think black media 89 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 8: has such a really important role right now, and so 90 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:19,160 Speaker 8: it's incredible to see your platform and the way you're 91 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:22,920 Speaker 8: using your platform is amazing. In my work, I'm covering 92 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 8: black issues most consistently, telling black stories about the way 93 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 8: that we're utilizing our black political power. This year, I've 94 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 8: been down in Atlanta, talking to both voters and organizers 95 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:36,720 Speaker 8: on the ground, folks who are mobilizing and communities that 96 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:39,600 Speaker 8: are often left behind, and many of them are getting 97 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 8: their information from platforms just like this one. 98 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:42,719 Speaker 3: So it's a real honor to be here. 99 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:45,360 Speaker 1: I love it. Thank you for your work bringing information 100 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:47,840 Speaker 1: to people. I'm happy to have these black men at 101 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:50,160 Speaker 1: the table because we've talked about this a little earlier 102 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 1: in the show, and that is this the manisphere and 103 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 1: the comments coming from the manisphere, And I just wonder 104 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 1: what you all might say to our good brothers out 105 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 1: there who might be misinformed, misdirected, miseducated about what is 106 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 1: at stake for this election. And I hear consistently from 107 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:15,600 Speaker 1: the manisphere about this agenda to drive a wedge between 108 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 1: us and y'all know we love you, we can't we 109 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 1: need not only do we love you, but we need you. 110 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 1: You are integral to our lives and our community. So 111 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:28,160 Speaker 1: what would you say out there the men who feel like, well, 112 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:30,480 Speaker 1: we left out of the conversation and this black women 113 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:32,920 Speaker 1: this and his black women always owe Democrats and black 114 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 1: men vote with Trump, and what about me? What do 115 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:35,719 Speaker 1: y'all say to them? 116 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 2: Do the voice one more time and what about me? 117 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:51,040 Speaker 6: And we appreciate it, but nonetheless, so the one hundred 118 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:52,720 Speaker 6: black men we're a part of this twenty one city 119 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 6: tour talking about real men vote and to be candid, 120 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 6: those are things in which when we go to these 121 00:05:57,440 --> 00:06:00,280 Speaker 6: town halls, we hear some brothers say we feel left out, 122 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:02,040 Speaker 6: But I think what I would say to them is 123 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 6: similarly what we say during the town halls. As brothers, 124 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 6: we have to be one educated and informed on the issues. 125 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:09,599 Speaker 6: We know that there's a great deal of misinformation that 126 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 6: is specifically targeted towards us. And if you just look 127 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 6: no further than the mother, the black mama that birthed you, 128 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 6: her rights are under attacked. You're a black sister, you're 129 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 6: a black daughter, your a black niece, your black cousin. 130 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 5: You all just had alectus on their. 131 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:25,839 Speaker 6: Bodies and their ability to be able to do what 132 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 6: they want to do is under attack. And candidly, what 133 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:32,920 Speaker 6: I'm often saying is currently we don't have the time 134 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 6: to complain about what isn't happening or the wig that's 135 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 6: being pushed between us, perceived wedge between us. What we 136 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 6: have to do right now is what we have to do, 137 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:46,360 Speaker 6: which is be the true leaders of our communities, collaborate 138 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 6: and work together, take care of our brothers and our sisters, 139 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 6: and most importantly, show up. That's most important. Show up 140 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:55,599 Speaker 6: and do your job because you have an obligation to 141 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 6: do so. 142 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 5: Right now, I'm. 143 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 2: Sorry I would a little what you said. One of 144 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 2: my favorite things about you is I saw your videos 145 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 2: on TikTok and you are constantly educating in spaces where 146 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 2: people will get on completely unresearched. Not saying much, but 147 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 2: every video that I've seen from you, I've learned something. 148 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 2: How are you utilizing that platform to kind of combat 149 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 2: some of the misinformation that Tivi's talking about making sure 150 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:22,240 Speaker 2: you're bringing people in to be heard. 151 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, I think what's so important here is 152 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 8: that we don't get to this moment without the things 153 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 8: that came before it. Right, Like, we have to talk 154 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 8: about the fact that we are at this very week 155 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 8: is the thirtieth anniversary of the nineteen ninety four crime Bill. 156 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 8: Black men are left out of the conversation. I just 157 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 8: mentioned being in Atlanta. Just last week, I was in 158 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 8: Atlanta talking to some young men and both of them 159 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 8: had felony convictions, they can't vote, and so they have 160 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 8: been taken out of this conversation in a way intentionally systematically, right, 161 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 8: And so we have to acknowledge that that there are 162 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 8: structures in place that have led to this kind of 163 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 8: disillusionment that we see. Yeah, And at the same time, 164 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 8: I love the mentorship, the messaging that we're hearing from 165 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 8: our brothers here about we don't have time to really 166 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 8: get caught up in that. Right, they're using our vulnerabilities 167 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 8: against us as men, the misogyny and sexism that we're 168 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 8: taught from birth, the ways that we're being conditioned to 169 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 8: believe that women are inferior to us. They're using that 170 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 8: against us to leverage our vote against us. And so 171 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 8: much of what I try to do on my platform 172 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:25,239 Speaker 8: is that re education work, the work of really taking 173 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 8: that history, taking the issues and reframing them, hopefully adding 174 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 8: in some more information so that people understand things differently 175 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 8: so that we can build a better future. 176 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 5: And I think that's so. 177 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:38,200 Speaker 8: I think it's so important and often overlooked in this 178 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 8: conversation because men are being educated by folks who do 179 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 8: not have our best. 180 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 5: Interest in mind. 181 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:46,679 Speaker 8: The last thing I'll say is is Unfortunately, men are 182 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 8: taking their own lives and we have to ask ourselves why. 183 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 8: And a lot of it has to do with the 184 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 8: pressure that we put on ourselves, and the manisphere is 185 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:56,080 Speaker 8: a part of that. 186 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 3: They have blood on their hands and. 187 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:00,199 Speaker 5: We have to call it that and say it that way. 188 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 5: And this election is so important because. 189 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 1: I think that's such a thank you for that, for 190 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 1: stating that the way you did. Anybody can answer this. 191 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 1: I just wonder why out of that frustration, Because when 192 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:22,320 Speaker 1: our brothers are in pain, we hold your pain, we 193 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 1: feel that pain. We too are in pain, and I 194 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:28,440 Speaker 1: think it's in our nature to love and to nurture. 195 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:31,960 Speaker 1: I wonder why out of that does it become that we, 196 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 1: the black women, are your. 197 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:38,960 Speaker 3: Enemy broken and you're the closest to many of us. 198 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:42,840 Speaker 7: Are broken, and when what you don't realize is is 199 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:47,560 Speaker 7: that we are literally moving through life broken. 200 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 3: And so here I am. 201 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 7: I have been taught at a certain age how to 202 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 7: carry myself or what I think a man should be, 203 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:58,719 Speaker 7: how I should move in this world. And then when 204 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:02,679 Speaker 7: they are individuals that see me not operate in that space, 205 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 7: they criticize me, they tear me up. They It is 206 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 7: literally death by a thousand cuts. So by the time 207 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 7: I get to a space where it's time for me 208 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 7: now to take a partner, I don't. I'm not even 209 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:21,960 Speaker 7: who I'm supposed to be, broken and so and then 210 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 7: and then you have the individuals who say to you 211 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:27,079 Speaker 7: you don't need to get any help. You know that's 212 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 7: you know, you don't need any any support there? You 213 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 7: know a real man, doesn't you know? You just suck 214 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:34,320 Speaker 7: it up. You know how many times I've heard that 215 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 7: in my life, just suck it up. And here I 216 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 7: am now. And so you wonder why as I moved 217 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 7: through this space that I am not able to have 218 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:46,560 Speaker 7: the true conversation with my partner. I'm not able to 219 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 7: really know how to navigate on my job. I don't 220 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 7: know how to navigate in other relationships. And so the 221 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:54,680 Speaker 7: only time that I find an opportunity for me to 222 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 7: really express myself is in this informal opportunities, informal time 223 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 7: with my brothers where I'm just kicking it and you know, 224 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:05,440 Speaker 7: you're saying stuff like man, she tripping right, But really 225 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:07,439 Speaker 7: what I'm saying is it's like, man, I don't know. 226 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:08,680 Speaker 3: How to communicate to her. 227 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:11,720 Speaker 7: I don't know how to move in such a way 228 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 7: to let her know that I'm care I don't know 229 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:16,720 Speaker 7: how to say I'm vulnerable. Oh my gosh, that word 230 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:19,360 Speaker 7: very rarely comes out of our mouth, and so by 231 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:22,080 Speaker 7: because being vulnerable as a man is absolutely not a 232 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:25,559 Speaker 7: part of the lexicon of being a man broken. 233 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:29,680 Speaker 4: And I'll just say brokenness also has no monopoly on men. 234 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:33,840 Speaker 4: Brokenness applies across the board. And the reason why I 235 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 4: think it's important to say it is because we're almost 236 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 4: always it feels like we're looked at from the deficit 237 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 4: perspective of what we're not bringing to the table, rather 238 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 4: than what is here present that you've never seen exemplified 239 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 4: anybody else but me, if we're being honest with each other. 240 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 4: But I will say in y' all of y'all's comments 241 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:58,040 Speaker 4: that hit on this, that it is systematic that folks 242 00:11:58,040 --> 00:12:02,559 Speaker 4: aren't waking up feeling broken. There are advertisers who put 243 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 4: commercials on television between the most popular shows on tele 244 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:09,560 Speaker 4: that we're watching and others are watching, and never choose 245 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 4: to take mental health as their mantle or their opportunity 246 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 4: to say, you know what, this is in vogue. Whatever 247 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 4: the phrasing is that communicates directly to us in a 248 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 4: way that we can hear it. When you consider black 249 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:26,560 Speaker 4: men taking on issues during this election supposedly not supportive 250 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:29,319 Speaker 4: of the black woman who's running for president, you are 251 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 4: getting not just you United States of America, Republicans and 252 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:35,880 Speaker 4: conservatives coming at you in your inboxes, in your screen 253 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 4: time and when you're twirling through trying to see what 254 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:41,320 Speaker 4: story you're going to read next. But you got China 255 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 4: and you've got Russia. You're so powerful as an individual 256 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 4: and as an entity that foreign nations have determined that 257 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 4: you are the enemy and are now putting endless resources 258 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:55,480 Speaker 4: into making it true. So it isn't by accident. Is 259 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 4: we're not stumbling into it. We're not broken and falling 260 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:03,840 Speaker 4: into it. We are targeted, targeted with significant resources to 261 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:05,679 Speaker 4: perform a certain way. 262 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:07,840 Speaker 6: But you said something also that I think is super 263 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 6: important where you said the closest the proximity sivity, Like 264 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:14,720 Speaker 6: when you see the closest proximity to the person that 265 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 6: you know is oftentimes the person in which you harm 266 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 6: if you're not healed in some regard. So our sisters 267 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 6: often catch the brunt of our brokenness because they are 268 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 6: the closest to us and we feel as if that's 269 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 6: the only place in which we can try to be 270 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:32,600 Speaker 6: invoke some kind of superiority, which again is all systematic, 271 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:34,679 Speaker 6: you know, things in which we have to be intentional 272 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:36,679 Speaker 6: with breaking down. And I'm glad that we have in 273 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 6: the platform the opportunity to be able to discuss this. 274 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:41,120 Speaker 6: You ask a question earlier to what would we say 275 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 6: to black men first and foremost, You're valued, you're loved, 276 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 6: you're supported. 277 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:47,960 Speaker 5: You're needed, you're necessary. 278 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:50,440 Speaker 6: But you also have to go out and vote in 279 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 6: this election, or at a bare minimum, encourage everyone you 280 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 6: can to do the right thing, because if you don't 281 00:13:56,920 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 6: do the right thing in this instance, you may not 282 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 6: have another chance to do anything. 283 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 3: You're not going to have another chance. 284 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 7: And you know, I remember there was an argument the 285 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 7: one time I had with my wife and she said, 286 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 7: if you were on your job, would you talk to 287 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:17,080 Speaker 7: your supervisor your manager that way? No, you wouldn't because 288 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:20,880 Speaker 7: you're trying to protect your job. So why would you 289 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 7: talk to me like that in our home where we 290 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 7: are you know, the president and CEO or where the 291 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 7: you know. 292 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 3: Why would you do that to me here? Knowing that. 293 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:35,480 Speaker 7: You wouldn't do that outside of this space, but you 294 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:37,640 Speaker 7: would do it in this space, and I had to 295 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 7: check myself, you know, she had to check herself realizing that, 296 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 7: you know, I'm not going to blow up on you 297 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 7: here because I know that I'm going to be able 298 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 7: to manage how I'm going to delete, delete, delete that 299 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 7: email before I resend it, because I'm trying to protect 300 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 7: the lifestyle that I have. So why would I not 301 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 7: try to protect the lifestyle that I got. 302 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 3: Now. 303 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 7: One of the things that we're doing with the National 304 00:14:56,160 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 7: Parmle in the Council, specifically our fraternities, is we're having 305 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 7: deep conress stations with the fraternities, the five fraternities on 306 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:05,520 Speaker 7: how we're going to make sure that we are seriously 307 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 7: engaged in this upcoming election cycle. Now next week, we're 308 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 7: excited that we're going to be dropping a lot of 309 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 7: information on how the National Penalanonic Council is about to 310 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 7: be a part of this process. We're not sitting on 311 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 7: the sidelines. We're going to make sure that we're going 312 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 7: to be an intricate part. Every single week there's going 313 00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 7: to be something coming out from us about making sure 314 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 7: that folks are getting to the poll. 315 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 4: I love it. 316 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 3: On November fifth, watch us work. I love you. 317 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 1: So this is amazing, so great. Thank you for that. 318 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 1: What an amazing way to close out the show with 319 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:40,120 Speaker 1: words from black men and the openness and knowledge that 320 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 1: you've armed the home viewing audience with, but also does 321 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 1: us as your counterparts who are cheering you on and 322 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 1: grateful to the roles that y'all play in our lives 323 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 1: in our commune. 324 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 2: We do see, y'all, We do thank you. I do 325 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 2: want to say his name one more time, Justin Robinson, 326 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 2: who is the young man who was shot and killed 327 00:15:56,600 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 2: by the police here in Washington, DC just days ago, 328 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 2: And we want y'all to know we stand with you, 329 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 2: we're thinking of you, and we're absolutely gonna talk to 330 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 2: the CVC about what can be done on a federal 331 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 2: level to prevent these shootings to continue to happen. 332 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:13,920 Speaker 1: Thanks you so much for joining it. 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