1 00:00:01,920 --> 00:00:04,960 Speaker 1: R and B Money. 2 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:15,600 Speaker 2: Thanks take valoti. We are the authority on all R 3 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:18,280 Speaker 2: and B ladies and gentlemen. 4 00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:22,279 Speaker 1: Money is tank and this is the R and B 5 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:23,480 Speaker 1: Money Podcast. 6 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:29,159 Speaker 3: Man be a thorty, be authority. You don't take no 7 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 3: short walks around here on all things, all things. 8 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 2: R and B, and nothing short about what we do. 9 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 2: Even if we walk in it ain't short. 10 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:41,240 Speaker 3: It's gotta be long. 11 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:42,520 Speaker 2: The walks got long. 12 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:44,520 Speaker 3: Walk Come on, come on, come on, because you can't 13 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:46,199 Speaker 3: get nothing done on no short walk. 14 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 1: Kate, you can't get knocked to know, nobody, to nobody, Oh, 15 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 1: no short walk anybody worth getting to. 16 00:00:58,000 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 2: See. 17 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 1: Sometimes you're telling in your gifts I want dimension them, 18 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 1: and there's nothing wrong with that. But now we're about to 19 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 1: talk about the avenger of gifts. 20 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 2: Sing it. 21 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:12,760 Speaker 3: The other people just getting in the way. 22 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 1: I like what you're doing there, singing it, writing it, 23 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 1: all of it, producing it, spoken, wording it. 24 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 2: Is that a way to say that if you want 25 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 2: to say it? 26 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 3: Huh living the life? 27 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 2: Not did it? Yeah? Face on a stamp, man sights 28 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 2: on a god damp stamped? 29 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 3: How do you pull that up? 30 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 2: I'm not just pull it off. She did it. 31 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 1: It's the only person. I know they never do it 32 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 1: outside Harry Tumpman. Thanks, and gentlemen, I don't know how 33 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 1: this woman does all the things she does. And it's 34 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 1: still so amazingly graceful and beautiful. And the smile lights 35 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 1: up a room, smile like something universe. Excuse me, looks 36 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 1: golden to me. Looks golden to me, Ladies and gentlemen. 37 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 1: Without further ado a word, I know, Jill, Miss. 38 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:14,359 Speaker 2: Jills got. 39 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:26,920 Speaker 4: Finally, we've been. 40 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 1: Waiting, missiless because you you do stuff, you be busy. 41 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 3: I'll be bothering you know. 42 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 2: What I'm saying. 43 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 4: Get out of here. He didn't tell me? 44 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 3: Did you not tell me? 45 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 1: We've been we've been waiting on this. Hi, We've been 46 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:48,960 Speaker 1: waiting on this. We've we've been waiting to have the 47 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:54,080 Speaker 1: grace and the elegance and the smile, you know, just 48 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:57,640 Speaker 1: sitting right there, you know, look. 49 00:02:57,480 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 2: At the smalls and at the internet. 50 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 1: Say something differ about that smile. I'm gonna we're gonna start. 51 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 1: It's just a wholesome smile to me. 52 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 3: We're gonna start the Internet. 53 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 2: That's the Lord's smiles at the end of. 54 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 3: Mine, as well as they. 55 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:19,520 Speaker 2: Say, minus, let me something. 56 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, as a. 57 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:27,239 Speaker 1: As a I'm gonna say this with as much humility 58 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 1: as I can as a fellow sex symbol. 59 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 4: Here we go, Here we go, let's go. 60 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 1: How do you how do you receive receive that conversation? 61 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 4: How do I receive that conversation? 62 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 1: How do you receive like being being seen and viewed? 63 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 1: And and do you do you accept your space in 64 00:03:57,160 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 1: this sexy conversation? 65 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 4: I don't think I have a choice but to accept it. 66 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 4: I come from a family of amazon women. 67 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 2: Oh my mama, and yeah. 68 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 6: I'm the runt of my family. My mother six to one, 69 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 6: my grandmother was five eleven. Then like, oh my aunts. 70 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 6: Everybody's like buxom and sauce. 71 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 5: Good, do you want to hold them? 72 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:33,919 Speaker 3: I still remember it. I still remember the. 73 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:38,280 Speaker 4: I feel like. 74 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:40,599 Speaker 6: If I felt that way about those women, then I 75 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:42,840 Speaker 6: can understand why people will feel that way about me. 76 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:49,160 Speaker 4: You know, it's okay, I'm all right, I'm right, But. 77 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 1: It's it's it's it's effortless because it's it's just in 78 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:56,599 Speaker 1: the DNA translation so hard. 79 00:04:56,960 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 3: It's in me. It ain't on me. 80 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, what I don't know if. 81 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 7: You're paying attention because it was a pipt Now just 82 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 7: happened real quick. 83 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:05,839 Speaker 2: This is you know what. 84 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:08,839 Speaker 7: The last Philly artists came on here with two music, 85 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 7: So y'all came on here. 86 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:11,360 Speaker 2: You know what? 87 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:13,240 Speaker 3: That that Philadelphia is something different. 88 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 4: That was a great interview. I enjoyed that very much. 89 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 4: I love music. 90 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:22,159 Speaker 6: Ye when when he first started, I was I watched 91 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 6: your interview with him and he said something about, you know, 92 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 6: being so confident. 93 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 4: And honestly know this, y'all, I love you, But I 94 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:31,159 Speaker 4: don't remember that. 95 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:36,279 Speaker 6: I remember him being very nervous about being on stage, 96 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 6: and sometimes I would like hold him from the back 97 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 6: and guide him to the mic, you know, because that's 98 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:47,719 Speaker 6: what the space was for. Excuse me, that's what the 99 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 6: space was for. We had Black Lily and we had 100 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:55,279 Speaker 6: the Roots Jam sessions in Philly, so we all got 101 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 6: together and musicians were playing and singers were singing. MC's 102 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 6: were MC in and we had people that came and 103 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 6: paid eight dollars to see a show. And that's where 104 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:09,599 Speaker 6: we sharpened our tools. We figured it out. Audiences enjoy this, 105 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 6: Audiences like this, they feel good about that. They don't 106 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 6: like this, you know, you got to see it from yourself, 107 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 6: your own perspective, and then you got a chance to 108 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 6: see it from other people as well, you know, watching 109 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 6: them perform, like, oh, don't do that, that's not. 110 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 4: Jazzy. Fat Nasty's were the hosts. 111 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:33,040 Speaker 6: And then I think for the Roots picnic, I mean, 112 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 6: I'm sorry the Roots Jam sessions, I don't think there 113 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 6: was a host. I think the mics just got passed around. 114 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 6: Scott storches on the keys and Thelile is laying on 115 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 6: the floor, you know, singing his heart out as you know, 116 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 6: the floor. Absolutely, yeah, that's that's that's where I come from. 117 00:06:57,240 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 6: We just kind of sharpened each other and I look 118 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 6: around and I'm like, Okay, the Roots are doing great, 119 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 6: and I'm doing all right, you know music, soul, child flowetry, 120 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 6: like the list from that time, like people did great. Yeah, 121 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 6: really really great. 122 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 4: That comes with sharpening your tools. 123 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 1: If we can go back to before you even got 124 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 1: to that stage, like what gets you to the stage 125 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 1: with the Roots and all of these amazing artists. 126 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:32,559 Speaker 2: Like what gets you there? What start? 127 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 1: What kicks it off to where you know and now 128 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 1: believe that you have something different that can take you 129 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 1: all around the world. 130 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 6: I didn't know about to take them around the world part, 131 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 6: Like I didn't know that was real. It just didn't 132 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 6: want to work a nine to five, y'all. Like, I 133 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 6: just didn't like nine to five. That thing bothered my soul. 134 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 6: But this thing felt good. So it started with poetry, 135 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 6: which is why I'm still like, if I don't have 136 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 6: anything to say, I can't sing anything. 137 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 4: Like. 138 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 6: The words matter so much to me and they give 139 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 6: me the pathway to be as genuine and as sincere 140 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 6: as I could possibly be with every word that I 141 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 6: say or sing. Rather, so it started with poetry. I 142 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 6: got my feelings hurt some boy, and I wrote a 143 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 6: poem about it. I shared it with some women that 144 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 6: I was hanging out with and they were like, oh 145 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 6: my god, that was read another one. So I read 146 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:33,680 Speaker 6: another one and then I was like, oh that went nice, 147 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 6: I'll write another one. And I wrote another one because 148 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:39,200 Speaker 6: I was just trying to deal with what this felt like, 149 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 6: first heartbreak first. So then I started hearing about poetry readings, 150 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:47,319 Speaker 6: and I thought, okay. 151 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:47,680 Speaker 4: I'll go. 152 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 6: You know, it's i'll pay to get in, you know, 153 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 6: I'll get on the list, and then I'll read a 154 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 6: poem and see how that goes. Oh that went great, 155 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 6: Oh okay, I'll do it again. 156 00:08:57,120 --> 00:08:58,560 Speaker 3: It went good for you for the first time. 157 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:02,080 Speaker 4: Yeah great. I was like, okay, I'll do this again. 158 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:03,960 Speaker 4: This is fun. This is fun. 159 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 6: I get to see people hang out, you know, people 160 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:08,839 Speaker 6: buy me drinks. I don't get any money yet, you. 161 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:12,359 Speaker 4: Know, but nonetheless, this feels good. So I continued. 162 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 6: And then one night I was in a car with 163 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 6: a friend and this guy pulls up. 164 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 4: And I was literally across the street from my house. 165 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:25,839 Speaker 6: This guy pulls up and he goes listen, knocking on 166 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:28,239 Speaker 6: the glad Vincent knocking on the glass. 167 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 4: My friend said, I ain't Vincent, it neither she. He 168 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:36,200 Speaker 4: was like, Vincent Vincent, come on, man, do me like 169 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:38,600 Speaker 4: j man on me yet? 170 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 6: And then he went and pulled out. I saw the 171 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:46,560 Speaker 6: butt of a gun. My friend takes off down the street. 172 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:48,080 Speaker 6: I don't know what I was thinking. I guess I 173 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 6: just panicked. So I opened the car door and I 174 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 6: grabbed him. I think I'm gonna pull him over the dash. 175 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:55,200 Speaker 6: I don't know what I was thinking, but I was 176 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:59,959 Speaker 6: just I don't know. I panicked, and he dropped. 177 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:05,960 Speaker 4: What he had was on fire, like yeah, so and 178 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 4: we took off. 179 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:08,840 Speaker 6: He thought he had gotten shot because he was burning 180 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 6: right the bell fell and he thought he thought he 181 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 6: was on fire, like he thought he was shot. The 182 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 6: vincent man my friend who was not vincent, and I 183 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 6: was not vincent. We just happened to be sitting across 184 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 6: the street from my house in a car and he 185 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 6: took off. And the next day I was like, there's 186 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:31,200 Speaker 6: really no other words. I was fucked up, like fucked 187 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:34,200 Speaker 6: up because North Philly had always been this place that 188 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:38,559 Speaker 6: was like safe for me. Crack addicts knew me, drug 189 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:42,800 Speaker 6: dealers do me. They carried my mother's groceries home. You know, 190 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 6: cracka is a creep up on you. I turned around, 191 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 6: I'm like, oh, hey, you you know what I mean. 192 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 6: Like I was good in the hood, now wasn't. Now wasn't, 193 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:55,960 Speaker 6: And that it messed me up, took me off, like 194 00:10:56,120 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 6: really off kilter, like outside of myself. 195 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:02,319 Speaker 4: I was a friend for the first time in the hood. 196 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 6: Now it sounds wild because I grew up, you know, 197 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 6: where people were getting murdered a lot. But somehow I 198 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 6: wasn't afraid, But now I was. So I went to 199 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 6: a poetry reading the next day in my pajamas because 200 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 6: I couldn't fathom on how to put on clothes. 201 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:21,440 Speaker 4: I don't know. 202 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 6: I wore my pajamas and I got up to say 203 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 6: a poem and I sang and I sang I think 204 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 6: what did I sing? I sang Poorgy and bess what's 205 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:36,200 Speaker 6: the name of the song? 206 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 4: Summertime? Sang Summertime? 207 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 6: And when it was done, the room was silent, and 208 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 6: then they blew up. Everybody stood up, people started running, 209 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:53,960 Speaker 6: you know, oh my god, waiting it this whole time, 210 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 6: they didn't know, you know, and I never really said 211 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 6: anything because it was mine, my little voice, It was mine, 212 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:03,319 Speaker 6: and everybody liked it so much. 213 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:04,719 Speaker 4: So I started to do it. 214 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:07,440 Speaker 6: Was doing it more because it felt good, you know, 215 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:08,600 Speaker 6: like it felt good. 216 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 4: So I did it. 217 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 6: Again and it went well, and I did it again 218 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:14,600 Speaker 6: and then I was like, hey, you know, I'll add 219 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:17,520 Speaker 6: some poetry to this singing and see how this works. 220 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:18,720 Speaker 4: And it went well. 221 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 6: And then I added a DJ and that went well, 222 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 6: and it just seemed like this was this was right. 223 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 3: So you're doing all of your own artist development. 224 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 7: Yeah, building out your own yes, but but yeah, yeah, 225 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 7: full audit in front of live audience. 226 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 6: Yeah, in front of a live audience who let me know, 227 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 6: let me know whether it was working or not. You 228 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 6: know if it was good, if it was solid. I'd 229 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:50,200 Speaker 6: love the moments when I would say or sing or 230 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 6: do something and then the space will go. 231 00:12:55,040 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 4: Oh that that I still live for it. 232 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:08,360 Speaker 6: Oh the moment, the silence, a teary eye girl, the 233 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 6: silence and then the breath and how deep the breath 234 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 6: is or how shallow the breath is. All of that 235 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 6: tells you what to do next. It gives you direction 236 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 6: on how to move the crowd. 237 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. 238 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:26,080 Speaker 7: Yeah, but you're speaking from a real place of a 239 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 7: real performer, thank you, because I think a lot of 240 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 7: the artists don't even get that intricate into understanding who 241 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:37,320 Speaker 7: and what they're performing for. Are you know the whole 242 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:40,080 Speaker 7: purpose of it, like you said, and what actually gets 243 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:42,840 Speaker 7: you going? Because as a performer, it has to get 244 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 7: you going. 245 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:45,080 Speaker 4: You have to be excited. 246 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 3: You have to be excited, you have to want it. 247 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 7: The hardest thing for me is to go to a 248 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:51,319 Speaker 7: concert and look at the artists and be like, oh, 249 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:52,719 Speaker 7: they're just getting through it. 250 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:54,440 Speaker 4: I've seen it. 251 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 3: We've all seen it. 252 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:56,200 Speaker 4: I've seen it. 253 00:13:56,280 --> 00:14:00,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, And that's really tough because I think from me, 254 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 3: I look into it and I'm like, ah, that's sad, 255 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:05,439 Speaker 3: Like I get it. 256 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 7: Maybe you need to, you know, you gotta get your money. 257 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:10,319 Speaker 7: But when you especially this thing that that that we 258 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 7: do it in entertainment, if you if you can't enjoy it, 259 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 7: you probably should do something else. Yeah, it has to 260 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 7: start with the enjoyment of it, because I mean, obviously, 261 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 7: if you get to the Jill Scott level, you get 262 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 7: the fruit, but everyone doesn't. 263 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, and what's the stanger. 264 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 3: Something has to keep you going in this there's. 265 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 4: A place for everybody. 266 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 6: Yes, you know, whether you're in a lounge, if you 267 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:37,560 Speaker 6: like what you do, you like what you do. You 268 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 6: know what you wanted to do is pay your bills. Yeah, 269 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:43,440 Speaker 6: that's that's a good life when you enjoy something so 270 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 6: much and it takes care of your lifestyle and you 271 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 6: might be able to take a trip, you know, that's 272 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 6: nice like a mon No, that's a holiday. 273 00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 4: There's a holiday. 274 00:14:57,440 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 6: But if you could do that, like, then you're living 275 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 6: a good existence. Not everybody has to be at Madison 276 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:07,240 Speaker 6: Square Garden. Sometimes you have to be you're the person 277 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 6: that is happy to be at the jazz club. 278 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 4: Oh my god. That's a wonderful life. 279 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:19,000 Speaker 6: Absolutely, and it's doing something that makes you feel good. 280 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 6: I think your work should feel good, no matter how 281 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 6: late you stay in the studio, no matter how many 282 00:15:27,280 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 6: times you can't get a sample clear, no matter how 283 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 6: many times you know this thing or that thing doesn't 284 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 6: show up when you need it to for whatever reason, 285 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:40,760 Speaker 6: Like you gotta, there's got to be something to keep 286 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 6: you there. 287 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to, I want to. I want to 288 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 1: go back to something. You said that that that it 289 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:52,120 Speaker 1: was something that I had to learn to navigate. And 290 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 1: you said the silence, yeah hearing that that breath. 291 00:15:56,840 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 3: And mal artists always want screens. 292 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:05,000 Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, it wasn't, is it? 293 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 2: Because you gotta. 294 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:10,240 Speaker 1: You gotta think, Like my my true intro into the 295 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 1: R and B game was singing backgrounds with genuine m hmm. 296 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 1: So all I know is screaming if they're if they're 297 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 1: making some noise, and then the church as well, if 298 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 1: it ain't Hallelujah and some worship going on, and you 299 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 1: you might not be tapped into the spirit like you 300 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 1: think you are, right, takeing time, and then you take 301 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 1: it time. You're fucking up. But that's what I knew. 302 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:40,040 Speaker 1: And then when I started performing, I would have moments 303 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 1: where I would, you know, be playing my pen and singing, 304 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 1: and people would just be like, like what you say. 305 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 5: And I'd be like a terrifying scary. 306 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 1: I'm like, dad, I say nothing. And it took me 307 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 1: a minute to even learn learn what it was and 308 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:06,639 Speaker 1: then how to navigate it, and then it became my 309 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 1: favorite thing. It's like, oh, they are listening. They are 310 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 1: They are really locked in with they are getting something 311 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 1: from this, and that is the point that they don't 312 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:19,439 Speaker 1: want to miss by making too much noise or jumping 313 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:21,719 Speaker 1: up and down like they are, like, you don't do 314 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:24,159 Speaker 1: it at dinner when you when you at dinner, you 315 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:27,920 Speaker 1: sit down at your plate and you eat, you enjoy 316 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 1: your food, and they are you know what I'm saying, 317 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:37,199 Speaker 1: They're they're being fed at that moment, and that the 318 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 1: attention to it and the way they react is just 319 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 1: so different. It took me such a long time to understand. 320 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 4: That it's a high. Yeah, it's a high. And when 321 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:50,879 Speaker 4: you have a band, like I have a band. 322 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:52,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, so I don't. 323 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:56,720 Speaker 4: I don't read music. I wish did. I can still 324 00:17:56,720 --> 00:17:57,560 Speaker 4: go to school. 325 00:17:57,520 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 5: I can still learn how to do it, don't mess 326 00:17:59,560 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 5: it up. 327 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:00,959 Speaker 4: But I don't want to mess it up. 328 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 6: That's what I'm thinking like that's what frightens me, that 329 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:08,679 Speaker 6: I'm going to mess it up somehow. So and I 330 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 6: want it, but I explained to my musicians what I 331 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:20,879 Speaker 6: want through storytelling, through taste. I'll say things like it's 332 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:26,480 Speaker 6: not quite yellow enough, right, and I'm. 333 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:30,120 Speaker 4: Hoping I'm waiting to see dy nose what I'm talking about, 334 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 4: and somebody will go like this, and I'm like, y. 335 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 2: Yes, but I still don't think he mails with yellow. 336 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 4: But he does, or but he does, but they do. 337 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 2: Is it you? 338 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:50,480 Speaker 1: Because when you said yellow, I was like, I don't 339 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 1: know what that is. But if you said you're yellow 340 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 1: yellow a certain. 341 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:55,400 Speaker 4: Way, it's your yellow. 342 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:57,439 Speaker 1: Because if you said I need it more yellow, but 343 00:18:57,480 --> 00:19:01,200 Speaker 1: if you said I need it more yellow. 344 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:03,160 Speaker 6: Probably would and I probably would, and I probably do. 345 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:05,480 Speaker 6: I know it doesn't make sense. 346 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:07,960 Speaker 1: So I know it does because the way you say 347 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:11,200 Speaker 1: a word is not just the word, it's yours. 348 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:13,639 Speaker 2: It's everything that comes along with the word. 349 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 4: They have to be so patient with me because I 350 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:16,480 Speaker 4: have to. 351 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:22,000 Speaker 6: I tell them stories and I'll I'll bring in something 352 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 6: to taste. This is what it should feel like, and 353 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:28,880 Speaker 6: everybody will get going. They'll start playing and fiddling, and 354 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:31,359 Speaker 6: you know, touching and moving and next thing, you know, 355 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:34,440 Speaker 6: they come back together and it's what I wanted. It's 356 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:36,359 Speaker 6: what I wanted, but it's just missing a little bit 357 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 6: of salt. 358 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:42,880 Speaker 4: And they're like in the background singers. 359 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:44,639 Speaker 6: You know, they'll come in and do this thing and 360 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 6: it's it adds another flavor and it's the right flavor 361 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:50,159 Speaker 6: or it's not what I was thinking, but it's way 362 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 6: better than what I was thinking. That is that's rehearsal 363 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 6: with me. This is how I how I do it. 364 00:19:57,720 --> 00:19:59,399 Speaker 4: I don't know how we got to this part of 365 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:00,400 Speaker 4: the cover, say this girl. 366 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:05,960 Speaker 7: It leads to so many different things, right, Like it's 367 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 7: a process him and I wanted. 368 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:07,640 Speaker 2: We did. 369 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 7: We did breakfast club and they asked us about this 370 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 7: whole AI thing, right because that's the thing, that's like 371 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:15,359 Speaker 7: the new thing. Everybody wants to talk about it. But 372 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:19,640 Speaker 7: the truth of the matter is AI can't do that. 373 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:26,199 Speaker 7: AI doesn't feel like that. So when his response was 374 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:29,639 Speaker 7: I'm up for the fight, I ain't do over there. 375 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 7: I don't care what they're doing over there. They can 376 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:32,800 Speaker 7: do more of it. 377 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 3: So what But some people took that as oh, you go. 378 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 7: The level of the big you know, I read the comments. 379 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:40,760 Speaker 7: Comments don't bother me. They are funny to me, and 380 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:44,399 Speaker 7: I look at them as research. So I'm reading the comments. 381 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:46,200 Speaker 7: I'm seeing the people that are just like, oh, you 382 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:48,920 Speaker 7: at such a high level of this, and y'all didn't 383 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:51,040 Speaker 7: signed the stuff backdoor, deal with the. 384 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:52,440 Speaker 3: People, nigga. 385 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:58,879 Speaker 7: I don't know the AI people, Okay, ship, I don't know. 386 00:20:56,440 --> 00:21:03,280 Speaker 7: I know, I know Alan right so, but for us, 387 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:05,800 Speaker 7: I think what we were just really saying at the 388 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 7: end of the day was is that the type of 389 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:12,199 Speaker 7: gifts that you were born with, the things that you 390 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 7: understand about music and the amazing musicians. 391 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:21,639 Speaker 3: That you're around, they can't recreate that. They can't recreate 392 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:26,960 Speaker 3: the feeling. There's no seasoning in that. It's just not does. 393 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 4: Sound good though. I heard a couple of thingsund. 394 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 2: But I can pick it out. I was like this, 395 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 2: Oh that's too good. 396 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:41,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, because there's so much value or there's so 397 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 1: much there's so much golden imperfection, imperfection. 398 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:46,720 Speaker 4: Yes, that's the juice. 399 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:49,000 Speaker 5: That's the stuff, man, that's the juice. 400 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:51,280 Speaker 6: Like in the middle of a show and the musician 401 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 6: will go left for whatever reason and everybody will. 402 00:21:55,880 --> 00:22:08,199 Speaker 8: Look like all right, all right, and then afterwards, you know, 403 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 8: we're all slapping them and like, yeah, motherfucker, you go 404 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:13,240 Speaker 8: do you know it's. 405 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:14,960 Speaker 2: Exciting and you need people for that. 406 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:16,920 Speaker 4: Yes, you need people for that. 407 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:17,879 Speaker 2: You need people for that. 408 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:19,480 Speaker 3: But teach your kids prompts. 409 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 4: Okay, what the prompts. 410 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:25,240 Speaker 7: So the prompts are what you're putting into the program 411 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:28,439 Speaker 7: that are that's helping create exactly the AI and the 412 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 7: narrative what you're getting back, you know what I mean, 413 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 7: Like you just. 414 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 3: Got to learn, you know, add your flavor to it. 415 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:35,919 Speaker 4: So with like anything else, you just have to feed it. 416 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 3: Well you got to feed it. 417 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 4: Got it? 418 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:45,120 Speaker 7: Yeah, okay, because it's here, it's going back like anything else. 419 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:55,440 Speaker 2: Take me to. 420 00:22:57,520 --> 00:23:08,600 Speaker 1: The Discovery hum of Jill Scott. What what spoken word 421 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:10,200 Speaker 1: venue did they find you in? 422 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:19,160 Speaker 6: I was everywhere, Yeah, libraries, coffee shops, theaters. 423 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:19,400 Speaker 4: Bar mitzvahs. 424 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:21,280 Speaker 3: You're doing this every day. 425 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:24,480 Speaker 4: I did it whenever I wasn't working or going to school. 426 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 7: Because I was going to ask you about that, because 427 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:26,960 Speaker 7: you said you didn't want to do the nine to. 428 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:29,320 Speaker 3: Five No, So what job did you have? 429 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:30,960 Speaker 4: I worked at Cachet. 430 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 6: It was a clothing store for women on Walnut Street 431 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:35,200 Speaker 6: in Philadelphia. 432 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, was that like the ratchet clothing like it was. 433 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:44,480 Speaker 6: High end clothing at a lot of wealthy customers. They 434 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:49,160 Speaker 6: we would get them sushi and wine or or sack 435 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:51,040 Speaker 6: while they shocked. 436 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:52,800 Speaker 4: And this was you know. 437 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:54,800 Speaker 6: I didn't fit in when I first got there, but 438 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:58,439 Speaker 6: I was a really good saleswoman. So I learned, you know, 439 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:01,359 Speaker 6: to wear the clothes and the thing and the stuff, 440 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 6: and we got commissioned. So, yeah, I was working at 441 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 6: Cachet and I was going to school and what else. 442 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 6: M I was working at Cache until I met one 443 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:17,080 Speaker 6: customer that I loved. 444 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:17,800 Speaker 4: I adored her. 445 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:20,360 Speaker 6: I always made the space real special for her, get 446 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 6: her little fresh flowers, you know, because. 447 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:23,080 Speaker 4: She liked that. 448 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:25,480 Speaker 2: And this is in the Philadelphia. 449 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 6: Yeah, in the store m hm. So I put her 450 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:30,960 Speaker 6: stuff aside. I would take her size out of everything, 451 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 6: put it to the. 452 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:32,840 Speaker 4: Side, call her up. 453 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:35,240 Speaker 6: I got something and she'd be like, okay, I'm on 454 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:37,920 Speaker 6: my way. So she would come and we would talk 455 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:39,440 Speaker 6: and she would tell me about her life and I 456 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 6: would listen because she was rich, and I was like, 457 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 6: what happens with. 458 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:46,560 Speaker 4: I want to know? 459 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 6: She gave me an Infinity key from her car because 460 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:55,359 Speaker 6: they didn't need it anymore. It was this huge key 461 00:24:56,040 --> 00:25:00,119 Speaker 6: and I carried it forever until somebody got me for it. 462 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:03,199 Speaker 6: But it always made me think of her, like the possibilities, 463 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 6: this infinity that I'm holding. 464 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:10,080 Speaker 4: In my hands. Yes, yeah, it's a tangible I dream. Yeah. 465 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:12,880 Speaker 6: So I don't want to say her name. So one 466 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:16,119 Speaker 6: day I get a call she wants some stuff. I 467 00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:18,119 Speaker 6: have it, I put it aside. I go to her house. 468 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 6: I've never been to her house. I am geeked. There's 469 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:27,280 Speaker 6: a doorman, it's in walking distance. It's fantastic. The chandeliers, 470 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:31,600 Speaker 6: all the stuff. I was like, Oh, I went upstairs. 471 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 6: The elevator had a velvet chair in the elevator. In 472 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 6: this was this they lived in like a condominium, type 473 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:43,320 Speaker 6: of three story penthouse business. 474 00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:44,879 Speaker 4: She was rich chucking. 475 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:54,120 Speaker 6: So I go in there and there are backs everywhere, 476 00:25:54,840 --> 00:26:04,239 Speaker 6: unopened backs of new stuff everywhere on the stairwell, in 477 00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:08,040 Speaker 6: the kitchen. Their bags were walking around bags as I 478 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:10,679 Speaker 6: show her what's in the bag, and I think that 479 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:12,439 Speaker 6: was it for me. I was like, she's got an 480 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:16,920 Speaker 6: addiction and you're not helping. You're not helping at all. 481 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:19,119 Speaker 6: You gotta find something else to do. 482 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:19,640 Speaker 1: Shody. 483 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 3: So that pushed you out of it. 484 00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:24,680 Speaker 6: It pushed it turned me off. Wow, because I realized 485 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:25,240 Speaker 6: that I was. 486 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:29,080 Speaker 4: Like hustling her and she had a problem. I didn't 487 00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:31,119 Speaker 4: feel good. I don't do you know what I'm saying. 488 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:33,879 Speaker 4: Like I followed the things that feel good and the 489 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:34,520 Speaker 4: things that don't. 490 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:37,359 Speaker 6: I'm like, ah, that's okay. I could do something else. 491 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:43,160 Speaker 6: So I was going to school and I got a call. 492 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:44,000 Speaker 4: I was in. 493 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:47,919 Speaker 6: I was school to be an English teacher, which was 494 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:53,680 Speaker 6: very exciting. I got my kids to pay attention to Shakespeare. 495 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:55,800 Speaker 4: It was great. 496 00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:59,720 Speaker 6: I gave them melodies for Shakespeare and they would do 497 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:03,119 Speaker 6: wop to Shakespeare. They were geeked about it. 498 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:06,439 Speaker 3: You have none of these teachers. I probably would have stayed, 499 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:09,080 Speaker 3: would have graduated. 500 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:10,959 Speaker 4: It was great. 501 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:14,399 Speaker 6: I loved it, but I wanted to do more because 502 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:16,960 Speaker 6: i'm student teaching now. This is like I'm almost there, 503 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:19,520 Speaker 6: and I go to the principal and I was like, listen, 504 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:20,400 Speaker 6: the walls of gray. 505 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:23,359 Speaker 4: Floors are gray, lockers. 506 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:25,880 Speaker 6: Are gray, Like we need some color in this space 507 00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 6: because I feel defeated. 508 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:28,400 Speaker 4: When I walk in. 509 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:34,240 Speaker 6: And he said, oh, to be young and idealistic, you'll 510 00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:39,960 Speaker 6: get over it soon. That didn't feel good. I was like, not, 511 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:43,880 Speaker 6: I'm not doing this. And on the walk home from 512 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:45,919 Speaker 6: the school, which was around the corner from my house, 513 00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:50,520 Speaker 6: I was upset because here I have made three years 514 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:53,879 Speaker 6: in going to school to be an English teacher, and 515 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:55,639 Speaker 6: I realized that I was going to be met with 516 00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:58,359 Speaker 6: a bunch of resistance than one resistance. 517 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:01,320 Speaker 4: I feel like it should feel good, it right? So 518 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:03,200 Speaker 4: I'm pissed. 519 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:07,760 Speaker 6: I quit my job. I quit school because I quit school. 520 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:10,720 Speaker 6: I didn't just say I wasn't I was gonna change majors. 521 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:12,800 Speaker 6: I was working two jobs just to go to school. 522 00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:16,639 Speaker 6: Like going to school, I'm paying this money and then 523 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:18,800 Speaker 6: I'm owe it to them and I'm never going to 524 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:21,080 Speaker 6: make enough to pay him back. 525 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:24,080 Speaker 4: Like this is this isn't. This doesn't feel good? 526 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:25,199 Speaker 3: I like it. 527 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:28,320 Speaker 6: So I got to my house. I hear the phone ringing, 528 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:31,879 Speaker 6: but I can't find a key. The phone is ringing. 529 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:33,960 Speaker 6: You know the phones that are connected to the wall, 530 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:37,919 Speaker 6: you know, a house phone the house. Yeah, So I 531 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:41,280 Speaker 6: get the key and I'm not walking fast because I'm like, man, 532 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:42,560 Speaker 6: if I miss it, I miss it. I don't know 533 00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:46,320 Speaker 6: who this is. But I get to the phone and 534 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 6: it's a friend. I'm gonna say his name, same as 535 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:52,080 Speaker 6: Ozzie Jones, and Izzie Jones says, what are you doing? 536 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:56,240 Speaker 6: I said nothing. It said, by this time, I'm reading poetry, 537 00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 6: I'm singing. He's been saying, I think you're an actress 538 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:05,000 Speaker 6: and now he's a director plays. And I was like, yeah, okay, 539 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:10,120 Speaker 6: you know if you say so okay, and he he says, 540 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:12,200 Speaker 6: there's an apprenticeship at a theater company. It's called the 541 00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:15,000 Speaker 6: Ardent Theater Company. It pays two hundred and fifty dollars 542 00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:18,560 Speaker 6: a week. They'll give you free acting classes. That's where 543 00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:21,440 Speaker 6: he got me. They'll give you free acting classes, but. 544 00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:23,320 Speaker 4: You'll work free. 545 00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:29,560 Speaker 6: You'll work fourteen hours a day, six days a week, 546 00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:36,480 Speaker 6: two hundred and fifty dollars a week and health insurance. 547 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:43,640 Speaker 4: So I'm already at home in my mom's house, you know, okay. 548 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:47,680 Speaker 4: So I interviewed for it and I got it. I 549 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:50,520 Speaker 4: was twenty five, twenty five. 550 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:56,520 Speaker 6: They came in. Everybody in there is white, everybody, rute 551 00:29:56,520 --> 00:30:01,040 Speaker 6: of the dude. Nice people, lovely people are all theater 552 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:04,320 Speaker 6: experience I have none. I don't know what downstage is, 553 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:08,880 Speaker 6: I don't know what stage right is. I don't know anything, 554 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:12,880 Speaker 6: but I'm there, and they worked a snot out of me. 555 00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:18,280 Speaker 6: I oh boy, I carried three by fives up three 556 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:21,160 Speaker 6: four flights of stairs. We were building a theater, which 557 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:25,600 Speaker 6: meant there needed to be demolition in this warehouse that 558 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:30,880 Speaker 6: they purchased. So I'm using a jackhammer. I'm using a sledgehammer. 559 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:36,720 Speaker 6: I am mopping the floor in this theater company. It's 560 00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:42,160 Speaker 6: pretty big, Okay. I'm mopping the floor. I'm cleaning the toilets, 561 00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:46,440 Speaker 6: I'm selling the tickets, I'm sewing the clothes, I'm hanging 562 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:52,040 Speaker 6: the lights, I'm building the sets, the stages. I'm twenty 563 00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:56,400 Speaker 6: five right with no idea what I'm gonna do next. 564 00:30:56,840 --> 00:31:00,480 Speaker 6: Everybody else is a graduate of Berkeley. They're great graduates 565 00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:04,200 Speaker 6: of of of N y U. They're They're these young, 566 00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:09,520 Speaker 6: talented people and this is their big opportunity, this theater company. 567 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:12,520 Speaker 6: I didn't know it was my big opportunity because but 568 00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:15,480 Speaker 6: I learned so much while I was there. We did 569 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:19,440 Speaker 6: musical theater. Had no idea, you know, I had no idea. 570 00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:22,120 Speaker 4: I mean, I knew because I listened to musical theater. 571 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:24,440 Speaker 4: My mother took me to plays. But I came in 572 00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:38,280 Speaker 4: there singing s W V so they kind of yes, great, 573 00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:44,800 Speaker 4: jam great. They didn't take me seriously until I started 574 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:47,800 Speaker 4: singing Sondheim and then they were like. 575 00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:48,840 Speaker 2: Ye, what that is. 576 00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:54,520 Speaker 4: It's this guy. I'm sorry, no disrespect. He's written a 577 00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:57,880 Speaker 4: lot of amazing plays. But it's time for more theater, 578 00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:03,680 Speaker 4: new theater, amazing theater, you know. But I learned everything 579 00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:07,560 Speaker 4: from this one theater company. I worked there for two years. 580 00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:10,360 Speaker 6: It was only for supposed to be for a year, 581 00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:13,640 Speaker 6: but I didn't have anything to do, so I just stayed. 582 00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:16,520 Speaker 4: Yes, I stayed and I learned. 583 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:21,720 Speaker 6: And I thank you, Izzie, thank you so much for that, 584 00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:28,320 Speaker 6: because that led me to another apprenticeship at another theater company, 585 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:32,120 Speaker 6: the oldest in America. And I got a call from 586 00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:36,000 Speaker 6: a girlfriend, Stephanie Renee. Stephanie said, oh, they got their 587 00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:37,160 Speaker 6: auditioning for rent. 588 00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:38,120 Speaker 4: You should go. 589 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,720 Speaker 6: And I was like, but I'm teaching poetry at the camp. 590 00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:45,719 Speaker 6: She's like, well, it's at you know, it's like at 591 00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:50,160 Speaker 6: one o'clock. And I started my class with the camp 592 00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:52,200 Speaker 6: was early in the morning, so I was like, I'll go. 593 00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:56,320 Speaker 6: After I came looking terrible. I had a basketball in 594 00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:58,800 Speaker 6: my hand. I was bouncing the ball like I ain't 595 00:32:58,800 --> 00:32:59,560 Speaker 6: gonna get this shit. 596 00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,640 Speaker 2: I'm like, where this just tooks? 597 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:08,240 Speaker 6: I just got okay because I was coming from camp 598 00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:09,840 Speaker 6: and I played this game. 599 00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:13,840 Speaker 4: It was out of minepia. So you know, when you 600 00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:16,280 Speaker 4: throw the ball at somebody, somebody says bye, and then 601 00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:18,680 Speaker 4: somebody else will say ooh somebody, you know what I mean. 602 00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:20,240 Speaker 6: Like We're going around and it was fun and then 603 00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:22,280 Speaker 6: we started making rhythms and it was great. 604 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:23,640 Speaker 4: It was fun. Love that. 605 00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:28,480 Speaker 6: So here I am auditioning for rent and I ended 606 00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:32,800 Speaker 6: up getting a callback, and then I got another call back, 607 00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:36,920 Speaker 6: and I got another callback, and I got another callback. 608 00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:39,600 Speaker 6: By the sixth time, I said, if these people they 609 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:41,240 Speaker 6: know by now if they want to hire me or not. 610 00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:43,000 Speaker 4: They don't want to hire me because I don't have 611 00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:44,680 Speaker 4: anything that they all now. 612 00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:48,520 Speaker 6: So I'm like, okay if they if they don't, they 613 00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:51,080 Speaker 6: don't hire me, you know, like they should know by now, right. 614 00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:56,760 Speaker 6: Didn't hear for anything, like two months. So I'm just 615 00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:57,760 Speaker 6: working my little. 616 00:33:57,600 --> 00:33:59,040 Speaker 4: Jobs doing poetry here. 617 00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:02,360 Speaker 6: I'm working at a camp there, you know, whatever I 618 00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:05,960 Speaker 6: can do and to keep afloat. And then I get 619 00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:09,040 Speaker 6: a call, can you leave in three days to go 620 00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:11,960 Speaker 6: do rent in Canada. I've never been out of the 621 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:16,240 Speaker 6: country round myself like this is wild. I said, yes, 622 00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:21,160 Speaker 6: how much you say? How much you say? 623 00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:22,320 Speaker 4: It was great. 624 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:24,440 Speaker 6: I think at the time I was getting like seventeen 625 00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:27,680 Speaker 6: hundred dollars a week plus seven hundred dollars per dim. 626 00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:32,520 Speaker 6: I had nothing. I had nothing, so this was great, 627 00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:34,960 Speaker 6: a great opportunity. And I went out of the country 628 00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:37,080 Speaker 6: and I did Rent and it was great. That people 629 00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:39,719 Speaker 6: were awesome. I love them. We had such a good time, 630 00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:42,880 Speaker 6: such sweet spirits, and the rent heads were amazing. 631 00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:44,760 Speaker 4: Those are the people who loved the play. 632 00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:47,879 Speaker 6: And they would sleep outside the theater and they had 633 00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:49,799 Speaker 6: pictures of you, and they would it. 634 00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:51,520 Speaker 2: Was like Rent was a big deal. 635 00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:51,960 Speaker 4: It was. 636 00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:54,120 Speaker 2: It was. It was a little bit of big deal. 637 00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:55,120 Speaker 4: It was a little bit. 638 00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:55,839 Speaker 3: It was. 639 00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:58,640 Speaker 4: It was enough for me. But it was good and 640 00:34:58,680 --> 00:34:59,360 Speaker 4: I enjoyed that. 641 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:03,439 Speaker 6: And then they asked me if I wanted to do go. 642 00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:10,200 Speaker 4: To Broadway, and I didn't. I didn't. 643 00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:17,600 Speaker 6: There is a gift of discipline in theater that I 644 00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:20,520 Speaker 6: will have in two instances. 645 00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:21,600 Speaker 4: One I'll be broke. 646 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:27,640 Speaker 6: Or it's amazing one or the other. You feel what 647 00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:33,280 Speaker 6: I'm saying. If I'm broke, I might be on Broadway. 648 00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:37,799 Speaker 6: That sounds wild, or if it's amazing, like if I 649 00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:42,560 Speaker 6: need a job because that hustle, that mindset, that day 650 00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:45,840 Speaker 6: to day, being in the same light with the same people, 651 00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:48,720 Speaker 6: We're in the same clothes, saying the same thing, almost 652 00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:49,359 Speaker 6: the same way. 653 00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:53,640 Speaker 4: You didn't experience that, God bless you didn't. I don't 654 00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:54,880 Speaker 4: think I would. I would have cracked. 655 00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:56,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. 656 00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:59,120 Speaker 6: So I had to choose between I know I jumped, 657 00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:02,520 Speaker 6: didn't I I had to choose between a record deal 658 00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:04,440 Speaker 6: or Broadway Broadway. 659 00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:07,479 Speaker 3: Yes. Oh, they were on the table at the same time. 660 00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:11,279 Speaker 4: Yes, And I chose the record deal. 661 00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:15,120 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, I. 662 00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:19,800 Speaker 3: Listen. I've only been to Broadway to see take So 663 00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:22,120 Speaker 3: I would. 664 00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:24,120 Speaker 4: Love to have that experiment. I just wanted to be 665 00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:29,640 Speaker 4: something that's amazing. Yeah, like real bad. I really wanted. Yeah. 666 00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:33,120 Speaker 6: So, how I got the record deal? I had been calling. 667 00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:34,720 Speaker 6: So now I'm a poet in the city. 668 00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:38,239 Speaker 4: People know they're paying up the forty five dollars to 669 00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:40,880 Speaker 4: have me come and perform it. That's stuff, you know. 670 00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:47,040 Speaker 6: So I thought I could probably write a song. So 671 00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:51,080 Speaker 6: I started writing little songs songs before No, no, right, 672 00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:54,040 Speaker 6: I'm just a poet writing poet. 673 00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:56,680 Speaker 4: So I was like, I probably could write a song. 674 00:36:57,640 --> 00:36:59,200 Speaker 4: Yeah maybe. 675 00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:03,200 Speaker 6: So I started calling the producers that I knew, because 676 00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:05,680 Speaker 6: these jam sessions had all the musicians at them. 677 00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:07,440 Speaker 4: You know, are all of these James. 678 00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:11,080 Speaker 6: Poyser's playing Questlove is playing the drums, Scott Storage is 679 00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:14,680 Speaker 6: on the keys, like the Leonnard Hubbard's on the base, 680 00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:16,240 Speaker 6: what are we talking about? 681 00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:17,520 Speaker 4: Thaddyus Trebette. 682 00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:21,319 Speaker 6: All of these amazing musicians are in Adam Blackstone. 683 00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:22,080 Speaker 4: They're all there. 684 00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:26,239 Speaker 6: So I started calling the studios that they told me 685 00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:29,120 Speaker 6: they were working at. And because I'd never been to 686 00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:32,640 Speaker 6: a studio before, so I was like, not a real one, 687 00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:37,680 Speaker 6: somebody's basement one time. But I called and nobody called 688 00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:40,560 Speaker 6: me back. And I called every day, nobody called me 689 00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:44,160 Speaker 6: back for like six months, and then eventually I was 690 00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:47,000 Speaker 6: on the street headed to the Theater Company because I 691 00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:51,359 Speaker 6: was doing something with them. And there's Jazzy Jeff and 692 00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:57,960 Speaker 6: on the street with Rich Medina, a very popular poet 693 00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:02,360 Speaker 6: in Philadelphia at the time. So I know Rich, and 694 00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:05,400 Speaker 6: there is Jazzy Jeff, and I've been calling his studio. 695 00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:10,759 Speaker 4: Yes, so I don't have a lot for him. 696 00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:16,040 Speaker 6: Hi, I never met the man in my life, like 697 00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:19,920 Speaker 6: it was right, because I called every day you know 698 00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:22,840 Speaker 6: what I'm saying, like, come on, man, somebody the musicians 699 00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:25,600 Speaker 6: know me. They should, I know they do. Andre Harris 700 00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:29,000 Speaker 6: like they know me. Dremvidal they're working with him. Like 701 00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:30,839 Speaker 6: somebody should be like, you should let her come? 702 00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:31,799 Speaker 4: Nobody did. 703 00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:34,520 Speaker 6: So I was like hi, and then I went on 704 00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:38,160 Speaker 6: about my business and Jeff, according to Rich, said who's that. 705 00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:40,520 Speaker 4: He said, that's Jill Scott. He said, that's Jill Scott. 706 00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:43,280 Speaker 4: He said, yes, that's Joe Scott. 707 00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:46,359 Speaker 6: Then I got a call can I come? And I 708 00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:51,920 Speaker 6: was mad, but I went. But I was mad, but 709 00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:57,000 Speaker 6: I went. So I get over there and there's there's 710 00:38:57,080 --> 00:39:00,440 Speaker 6: music in every room in this studio, there's every everybody 711 00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:03,160 Speaker 6: is playing something amazing in each room. 712 00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:05,279 Speaker 4: And I'm walking around. I don't know what to do. 713 00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:07,080 Speaker 4: I don't I mean, what am I supposed to do? 714 00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:08,160 Speaker 4: What am I supposed to do? 715 00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:08,640 Speaker 6: I don't know. 716 00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:11,000 Speaker 4: So I'm just there and I know people, so I'm like, hey, 717 00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:13,080 Speaker 4: what's up? But they're in work mode, you know, they're focused, 718 00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:16,879 Speaker 4: They're touching things, you know, and hidding stuffies. And I 719 00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:20,880 Speaker 4: was like, oh, I don't know, I don't know, but 720 00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:21,520 Speaker 4: I'm here. 721 00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:27,440 Speaker 6: I'm cracking jokes and you know, but it seems like 722 00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:30,279 Speaker 6: my time's up and nobody's giving me any music to 723 00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:36,920 Speaker 6: write too. And I'm like, oh, so, who what are 724 00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:38,320 Speaker 6: you gonna do with the studio? 725 00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:42,080 Speaker 4: And Jeff was like, yeah, just like that. He was like, 726 00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:44,920 Speaker 4: what do you mean. I was like, you got a 727 00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:48,520 Speaker 4: lot of exposed would here. You should probably staying in 728 00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:51,880 Speaker 4: pole your thing neck and he was I think it 729 00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:56,680 Speaker 4: would look very nice. And he was like, you're not 730 00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:58,080 Speaker 4: think I wouldn't think it would look nice. 731 00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:00,120 Speaker 6: And I was like, I could do that for you, 732 00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:03,480 Speaker 6: and I did. I stayed in pole. You're thing in 733 00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:04,240 Speaker 6: the lobby. 734 00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:04,799 Speaker 2: If you do. 735 00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:10,200 Speaker 4: So I could be there. That's how I got to stay. 736 00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:14,839 Speaker 4: Oh this is great, so I could be there because 737 00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:17,720 Speaker 4: I didn't want to. It was so great, but nobody 738 00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:19,120 Speaker 4: was giving me anything to do. 739 00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:23,000 Speaker 7: But you have to I was explaining this to my son. 740 00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:30,680 Speaker 7: In life, you have to create a need. If someone 741 00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:33,839 Speaker 7: doesn't need you for something, that means like you have 742 00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:36,080 Speaker 7: to like, okay, what's missing around here? 743 00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:39,960 Speaker 3: Oh they need and such and such here? Hey, I 744 00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:45,520 Speaker 3: can do that. Most people most humans don't think that way. 745 00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:48,000 Speaker 1: Oh I didn't want to go, and you got to 746 00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:51,120 Speaker 1: end this part too. They don't even know sometimes that 747 00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:52,399 Speaker 1: they needed until you. 748 00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:53,560 Speaker 3: Say, because he didn't know he did. 749 00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:59,440 Speaker 2: He was fine with the raw wood. He was he 750 00:40:59,600 --> 00:40:59,959 Speaker 2: was good. 751 00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:07,160 Speaker 6: So I stayed in polyr Thainly Lobby and I hummed 752 00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:08,799 Speaker 6: a lot and I. 753 00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:12,400 Speaker 4: Listened whenever the door will open. I almost died because 754 00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:15,440 Speaker 4: poll of your thing is very, very strong, so I 755 00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:16,399 Speaker 4: had to hold the door open. 756 00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:19,080 Speaker 3: Had building sets. 757 00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:20,799 Speaker 4: My mother told me how to stay in pot of 758 00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:21,200 Speaker 4: your thing. 759 00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:29,000 Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, yes, your family's amazing Amazons. And they do stuff. 760 00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:32,319 Speaker 6: Lay down hardwood, forward, make your pair of pants, make 761 00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:34,040 Speaker 6: you smoothie that you won't have to eat it all 762 00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:37,240 Speaker 6: for the next two days like they do these things. 763 00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:43,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, she could do it. Amazing these women. Yeah. 764 00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:48,760 Speaker 6: So one day I'm there, I'm listening in the room, listening, 765 00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:51,920 Speaker 6: and I don't know who was it might have been Jeff, 766 00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:56,960 Speaker 6: but he gave me a tape with a bunch of 767 00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:59,120 Speaker 6: songs on it. I wrote to everything that I heard 768 00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:01,080 Speaker 6: because I didn't know not. 769 00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:03,400 Speaker 4: To like something. I was like, the job is you 770 00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:05,680 Speaker 4: write a song? Everything on here. 771 00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:09,920 Speaker 6: So on the bus I would write while I was 772 00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:13,040 Speaker 6: actually while I was auditioning for rent. On the bus 773 00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:15,920 Speaker 6: from Philadelphia to New York I would write the songs 774 00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:20,920 Speaker 6: to the tape he gave me, So mind you rent disappears, 775 00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:24,080 Speaker 6: They're disappeared. They're going for a couple of months. But 776 00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:28,480 Speaker 6: I'm coming to the studio pretty regularly just to be there, 777 00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:32,120 Speaker 6: and Jeff decided to give me a ride home, which 778 00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:35,200 Speaker 6: I thought was huge. Jazzy Jeff is giving me a 779 00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:36,719 Speaker 6: ride home in North Philly. I was like, you know, 780 00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:39,200 Speaker 6: I living in North Philly, right. He's like, yeah, yeah, 781 00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:41,080 Speaker 6: I'll take you home. I was like, it's in North 782 00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:42,640 Speaker 6: Philly where I live. 783 00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:45,919 Speaker 4: He he was like, I take you home. 784 00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:50,440 Speaker 6: And I was like, okay. So a couple of things happened. 785 00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:53,600 Speaker 6: We're in the car. This lady jumps out of the 786 00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:55,000 Speaker 6: car from behind us. 787 00:42:55,400 --> 00:43:00,760 Speaker 4: And she's screaming and hollering Jazzy Jeff, Jasey Jeff, Jessey Jeff. 788 00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:02,960 Speaker 6: And he rolls down the window and she's just talking 789 00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:06,319 Speaker 6: to him. Her car door's open, and there was a 790 00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:09,279 Speaker 6: baby in the back seat. I could see it from 791 00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:12,080 Speaker 6: the rear view, and I was like, this is fame. 792 00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:15,840 Speaker 5: Mm hmm, Like that's nuts. 793 00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:16,920 Speaker 4: Excuse me. 794 00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:20,440 Speaker 6: I'm like, that's nuts for that to even happen. Scared 795 00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:24,799 Speaker 6: the hell out of me. Scared me pretty good. But nonetheless, 796 00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:29,920 Speaker 6: on after we after we left that lady, he put it. 797 00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:32,719 Speaker 6: I put in the tape and I sang a long 798 00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:38,759 Speaker 6: walk and he was like, you sing. I was like, 799 00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:42,120 Speaker 6: I'm just showing you how it goes. And he was like, 800 00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:44,440 Speaker 6: you sing to. 801 00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:48,600 Speaker 2: The hold on to the actual track. Yeah, long walk track. 802 00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:49,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, it was done. 803 00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:55,320 Speaker 2: It was done, and right there in his face, yeah okay. 804 00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:59,919 Speaker 6: Yeah, and he liked it, and I liked it too, 805 00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:01,520 Speaker 6: and uh. 806 00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:06,240 Speaker 4: And I liked it too. I liked it so much. 807 00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:13,240 Speaker 6: And then he was like you sing and I just agreed, yes, yeah, okay, 808 00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:17,680 Speaker 6: if you say so. Singing with something that was mine, 809 00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:19,719 Speaker 6: it's personal, so at. 810 00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:20,960 Speaker 3: This point you don't want to share. 811 00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:26,120 Speaker 6: It, nah, Jesse Jeff said, I was good, So I 812 00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:26,920 Speaker 6: figured I might be. 813 00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:28,520 Speaker 4: That just might be. 814 00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:31,960 Speaker 6: And then when you know, when I after that crazy 815 00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:36,000 Speaker 6: night with the high guy at Vincent, that felt good too. 816 00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:40,000 Speaker 4: You know, I think I can. I think I can. 817 00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:45,640 Speaker 6: Okay, Okay, I think I think I can. So I started, 818 00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:46,960 Speaker 6: you know, I'm singing all the songs. 819 00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:48,960 Speaker 4: They said, you go in the studio, what do I 820 00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:49,600 Speaker 4: do it here? 821 00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:55,479 Speaker 6: I don't touching, you know, They're like oh, I didn't 822 00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:58,160 Speaker 6: get that, And I'm like, okay, I sang things from 823 00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:00,960 Speaker 6: the top to the bottom, top to the bottom, tip 824 00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:05,719 Speaker 6: to the bottom. Every time I didn't know that you 825 00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:07,439 Speaker 6: stopped and start again. 826 00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:10,319 Speaker 4: Well I didn't know that. 827 00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:11,760 Speaker 2: You don't. You don't have to. 828 00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:15,280 Speaker 4: Now you don't. I mean, well I didn't. 829 00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:18,200 Speaker 1: You You were doing something different. You had a different 830 00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:18,800 Speaker 1: kind of gift. 831 00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:23,040 Speaker 6: Each one was a different version version of it, which 832 00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:26,279 Speaker 6: is why theater and I. You know, somebody's got to 833 00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:28,160 Speaker 6: work with me and him or I got to work 834 00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:32,120 Speaker 6: for it, either or or both. But you know, they're 835 00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:35,799 Speaker 6: just collecting these songs. That's when I was auditioning for Rent. 836 00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:37,800 Speaker 6: This is happening all at the same time. I'm still 837 00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:41,000 Speaker 6: doing all of these things. And I got Rent and 838 00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:43,359 Speaker 6: I was like, all right, y'all, I see you when 839 00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:46,399 Speaker 6: I get back. And that's when I got the call 840 00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:48,600 Speaker 6: while I was over, while I was in Vancouver that 841 00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:49,560 Speaker 6: I got a record deal. 842 00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:51,880 Speaker 3: So somebody was shopping. 843 00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:54,879 Speaker 6: Somebody, Yes, yes, they were shopping. While I think I'm 844 00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:58,200 Speaker 6: just recording stuff. I think I'm just recording. I didn't 845 00:45:58,239 --> 00:45:59,359 Speaker 6: think about a record deal. 846 00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:00,560 Speaker 3: What saw me? Demo? 847 00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:08,040 Speaker 6: Is it the way a long walk getting in a way. Slowly, surely, slowly, 848 00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:11,600 Speaker 6: surely was fun. I didn't know the microphone was here, 849 00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:13,319 Speaker 6: and I was like I should. In my head, I 850 00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:16,240 Speaker 6: was like, I should sound like I'm walking away. Walking 851 00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:18,560 Speaker 6: away would be a good thing. So I started backing 852 00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:21,239 Speaker 6: up out of the studio and I opened the door. 853 00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:23,680 Speaker 6: You could hear the door opening in the in the recording, 854 00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:31,800 Speaker 6: and I'm backing out and I'm going slow tiptoe away surely, 855 00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:38,239 Speaker 6: and then I closed the door and it was done. 856 00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:40,279 Speaker 4: I didn't know. I don't know. 857 00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:44,359 Speaker 6: Like now, it's wild to me how much I didn't know, 858 00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:48,600 Speaker 6: and how wonderful it was to find out stuff. Just 859 00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:53,839 Speaker 6: learn as I go, try and see, and you never 860 00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:57,280 Speaker 6: know what to work or what won or anything. I'm 861 00:46:57,400 --> 00:47:00,000 Speaker 6: very grateful that I had to touch a jazz because 862 00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:04,360 Speaker 6: they were very supportive. They were like brothers to me. 863 00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:08,000 Speaker 6: I was in a safe environment. They took care of me. 864 00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:10,919 Speaker 6: We shared cheese steaks, you know what I'm saying, because 865 00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:14,239 Speaker 6: we had to, because we had to being in that 866 00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:17,920 Speaker 6: kind of space where so many dip Carvin Hagen's Love 867 00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:21,200 Speaker 6: You Forever. That's my cousin. He's my actual biological cousin. 868 00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:22,319 Speaker 6: We found out Wow. 869 00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:27,320 Speaker 4: Carvin Hagen's is he produced a lot of music, right, okay, 870 00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:28,440 Speaker 4: of course? 871 00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:36,000 Speaker 3: Is now just. 872 00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:44,520 Speaker 4: You know, yeah, that was a great environment. I suggest 873 00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:59,840 Speaker 4: that to any. 874 00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:59,000 Speaker 3: So have you already written you got me before? 875 00:47:59,080 --> 00:47:59,400 Speaker 4: Yes? 876 00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:05,040 Speaker 6: Yes, I was at a poetry reading. I think this 877 00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:07,239 Speaker 6: might have been all happening at the same time. You 878 00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:11,440 Speaker 6: just don't know, you know what's happening like, you don't 879 00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:14,959 Speaker 6: know no way to know all the pieces that are 880 00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:18,400 Speaker 6: moving in your favor. You have no idea met a 881 00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:22,840 Speaker 6: poetry reading, there's questlove. He says, hey, you write songs. 882 00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:25,359 Speaker 4: I say yes, I. 883 00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:28,200 Speaker 6: Hadn't written songs yet. He said, I need you to 884 00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:30,200 Speaker 6: write a hook. Can you write a hook? I was 885 00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:34,319 Speaker 6: like yes, and I went where he told me to go, 886 00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:36,880 Speaker 6: which happened to be with the guy from the poetry readings, 887 00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:38,359 Speaker 6: Scott Storge. 888 00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:41,719 Speaker 4: Scott Scott, what up? He said, you want to you know, 889 00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:44,360 Speaker 4: let's burn one and let's write something. I said, okay. 890 00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:47,880 Speaker 4: He played one melody. I sang one thing, and then 891 00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:49,040 Speaker 4: we went out to dinner. 892 00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:50,239 Speaker 3: And you forgot about it. 893 00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:54,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, Scott gave it to the roots. The roots loved it. 894 00:48:56,080 --> 00:49:01,200 Speaker 4: Erica sang it ended up winning a Grammy. Just try 895 00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:07,720 Speaker 4: and stuff, try to stuff, try to stop, try to stop, 896 00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:09,880 Speaker 4: give it a shot. See what happens. 897 00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:14,319 Speaker 3: This path is amazing. I know it's amazing. I know 898 00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:15,200 Speaker 3: it's amazing. 899 00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:18,200 Speaker 7: But the one thing that I've noticed is that you 900 00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:22,080 Speaker 7: were prepared for every opportunity that came your way. Why 901 00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:25,360 Speaker 7: but even if you weren't, you were willing to go 902 00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:26,560 Speaker 7: after it and to learn. 903 00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:29,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you were prepared. 904 00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:34,880 Speaker 1: You were. You were because because because not in terms 905 00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:41,680 Speaker 1: of you understanding technical structure right and how things are 906 00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:47,879 Speaker 1: supposed to go. But to me, ultimately what worked is 907 00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:54,319 Speaker 1: how things were supposed to go for you. Yep, you 908 00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:58,920 Speaker 1: stumbled on or you created something that felt good to 909 00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:03,920 Speaker 1: you during that process, and like. 910 00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:10,800 Speaker 6: The results of that, twenty five, twenty six years later, 911 00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:12,760 Speaker 6: it's still good. 912 00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:13,799 Speaker 2: Oh it's so good. 913 00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:16,399 Speaker 4: It's still good, still feels good. 914 00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:19,320 Speaker 6: I'm still getting jobs and you know, I'm still meeting 915 00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:20,160 Speaker 6: amazing people. 916 00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:22,200 Speaker 4: They're like, you want to write something with me? Yes, 917 00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:23,359 Speaker 4: yes I do. 918 00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:25,480 Speaker 3: It's still taking us four years for you to come 919 00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:27,680 Speaker 3: sit down with us. So yeah, it's still still working. 920 00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:28,520 Speaker 4: Work. 921 00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:30,800 Speaker 7: It was looking for you when we first started, we 922 00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:32,040 Speaker 7: were trying to be a penciled in. 923 00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:34,080 Speaker 3: We're trying to figure it out? 924 00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:37,920 Speaker 2: What about next month? Right? Yea, I don't believe that. 925 00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:40,799 Speaker 4: I don't. I don't believe that. I think I would 926 00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:41,799 Speaker 4: have been told. 927 00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:44,800 Speaker 3: Listen, we we weren't ready yet. 928 00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:46,120 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you. 929 00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:48,319 Speaker 3: Know we had we had to reach a certain level, 930 00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:49,040 Speaker 3: but we didn't have. 931 00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:51,680 Speaker 2: So let me ask you a question and. 932 00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:57,000 Speaker 1: In like, you're like this space that you live in, 933 00:50:57,160 --> 00:51:01,120 Speaker 1: and like, yes you know, Okay, yes I can Yep, 934 00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:02,520 Speaker 1: now I got it. 935 00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:05,600 Speaker 2: You live in this really cool. 936 00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:07,080 Speaker 3: You. 937 00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:10,160 Speaker 1: You know, you know what you are, right, But you're not. 938 00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:15,000 Speaker 1: You're not boastful, You're not You're not any of those 939 00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:19,560 Speaker 1: things to where you would project yourself to be more 940 00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:22,720 Speaker 1: than or all you know, or or better than you do. 941 00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:26,520 Speaker 1: You never do that, right, I would, but foolish. But 942 00:51:26,719 --> 00:51:29,680 Speaker 1: at what point do you Because when you drop this 943 00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:32,960 Speaker 1: album with all these monsters on. 944 00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:38,040 Speaker 3: It, on the demo, the from the demo, do you do. 945 00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:41,120 Speaker 1: You get to at some point look at yourself in 946 00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:44,440 Speaker 1: the mirror and say I am a superstar? 947 00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:46,400 Speaker 4: Never? 948 00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:50,960 Speaker 6: No, no, I have no no. I've been waiting for 949 00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:55,480 Speaker 6: this time my whole life, my whole life, I have 950 00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:58,799 Speaker 6: been waiting to be this age I've been I've been waiting. 951 00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:02,239 Speaker 4: To be this full. You can take that literally, figuratively, 952 00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:05,480 Speaker 4: whatever way you want to. I've been waiting for this. 953 00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:09,879 Speaker 6: Because I watched my my, my aunt and my mother. 954 00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:13,120 Speaker 6: I watched these women bloom into something else in front 955 00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:16,680 Speaker 6: of my eyes. So I've been waiting for this. Oh, 956 00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:20,480 Speaker 6: I've been waiting for this. I don't know what's going 957 00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:23,520 Speaker 6: to happen. I don't know when. I do know that 958 00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:24,720 Speaker 6: I have an album coming. 959 00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:30,799 Speaker 4: Yes, Yes, new album, Yes album. 960 00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:34,880 Speaker 6: Yes, I said would have said, I meant what I meant, 961 00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:36,920 Speaker 6: and I'm really proud of that. 962 00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:40,400 Speaker 4: I'm really proud of that. But I've been waiting for this. 963 00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:42,680 Speaker 4: This is this is this. 964 00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:44,359 Speaker 6: Is the age I've been waiting for. I don't know 965 00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:47,640 Speaker 6: what it is about this, but I'm very excited to 966 00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:53,000 Speaker 6: be here. I'm very happy that I'm still able able, 967 00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:56,880 Speaker 6: very happy to be here. And and that's what it is. 968 00:52:56,960 --> 00:52:59,799 Speaker 6: I'm not ready for that. I'm not ready for that. 969 00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:02,400 Speaker 6: I'll tell you why. I'll tell you why. This is 970 00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:09,680 Speaker 6: the whole honest God, light skinned girls in North Philly 971 00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:15,040 Speaker 6: had to fight for their lives. I never understood what 972 00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:19,440 Speaker 6: was happening around me. My grandmother is so brown that 973 00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:23,040 Speaker 6: her nickname was blue. I could not figure out, for 974 00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:26,959 Speaker 6: the life of me why light skin and long hair 975 00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:30,680 Speaker 6: equated beautiful. I could not get it. It didn't make 976 00:53:30,719 --> 00:53:34,000 Speaker 6: sense to me. And then I felt like I could 977 00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:36,319 Speaker 6: be possibly light skinned with long hair. 978 00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:39,880 Speaker 4: Can't do anything about it. My cousin's a hairdresser. She 979 00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:41,759 Speaker 4: does my hair. She keeps looking nice. 980 00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:42,120 Speaker 2: You know. 981 00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:44,399 Speaker 6: My mother goes to the good thrift stores. You know, 982 00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:46,480 Speaker 6: she gets me loafers with dimes in it. 983 00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:48,319 Speaker 4: You know, Like, I. 984 00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:52,200 Speaker 6: Can't stop this this part. But what I will not 985 00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:54,640 Speaker 6: do is I will not be conceited. 986 00:53:55,160 --> 00:53:55,680 Speaker 4: I will not. 987 00:53:57,200 --> 00:54:01,960 Speaker 6: It's not gonna happen ever ever. Ever I made I 988 00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:04,840 Speaker 6: won't say I made a deal, because that's that's not 989 00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:05,440 Speaker 6: my place. 990 00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:07,200 Speaker 4: But we had a. 991 00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:11,719 Speaker 6: Conversation, me and the Good Lord. We talked about humility 992 00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:18,120 Speaker 6: and remaining even keeled. And I was twelve. That was 993 00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:25,520 Speaker 6: I remember very well, and the what the price for 994 00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:32,000 Speaker 6: becoming egotistical? I don't want to pay it. So I 995 00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:37,399 Speaker 6: will remain myself and I will I will not. I'm 996 00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:40,000 Speaker 6: not gonna be with with what they want me to be. 997 00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:41,560 Speaker 4: All the time. 998 00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:52,200 Speaker 6: Maybe sometimes, but whatever that like, superior, whatever that is. 999 00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:54,760 Speaker 4: I don't. I cannot. I don't want to pay that price, 1000 00:54:57,120 --> 00:54:58,880 Speaker 4: and that's what it is. Period. 1001 00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:02,040 Speaker 2: Well it warn't be money. 1002 00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:03,360 Speaker 4: Hm hmmm. 1003 00:55:07,040 --> 00:55:08,239 Speaker 2: We're allowed to let you know. 1004 00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:12,480 Speaker 3: I thought you ain't got to said yourself. 1005 00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:17,120 Speaker 2: We're gon We're allowed to let you know. Oh boy, you're. 1006 00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:20,880 Speaker 3: An absolute you are to be celebrated us. 1007 00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:24,680 Speaker 2: Yes, you are forced to reckon with the universe. Of 1008 00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:26,760 Speaker 2: all times I've. 1009 00:55:26,680 --> 00:55:33,560 Speaker 3: Seen you can't, I've been you need a friend, I 1010 00:55:33,680 --> 00:55:39,640 Speaker 3: just yes and no. Yes, but I'll say no because. 1011 00:55:39,239 --> 00:55:40,879 Speaker 4: But I'm gonna say yes to be. 1012 00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:44,920 Speaker 7: Able to command that m because I've seen so many 1013 00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:47,239 Speaker 7: people in that super Dome. 1014 00:55:47,719 --> 00:55:48,160 Speaker 3: Mm hmmm. 1015 00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:52,600 Speaker 7: That super Dome will swallow your ass up period you 1016 00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:54,400 Speaker 7: think you ready and will. 1017 00:55:56,480 --> 00:55:58,600 Speaker 3: Go back to that what they called the super lowns. 1018 00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:02,840 Speaker 9: A super lown take your ass back to super or 1019 00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:04,000 Speaker 9: some off site. 1020 00:56:04,239 --> 00:56:07,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, take your back to Convintion Center. 1021 00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:12,239 Speaker 2: You wore the House of Blues kind of super the. 1022 00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:18,040 Speaker 7: Super with this echo and these people that's walking back 1023 00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:19,279 Speaker 7: to go get to what they call. 1024 00:56:19,239 --> 00:56:22,839 Speaker 3: The bud An in the fact they're gonna eat. 1025 00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:23,319 Speaker 2: They're going. 1026 00:56:23,600 --> 00:56:26,760 Speaker 7: But when Jill Scott gets on there, man, please, everyone 1027 00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:27,680 Speaker 7: is doing. 1028 00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:36,040 Speaker 2: This, man, please, they running today? Yeah. Else the feeling. 1029 00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:36,919 Speaker 3: Good, feeling good. 1030 00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:41,360 Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, and it's and that's why I say, for 1031 00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:44,080 Speaker 7: me seeing you in that type of space, I just 1032 00:56:44,120 --> 00:56:46,640 Speaker 7: respect it in a different light because I've seen when 1033 00:56:46,719 --> 00:56:49,239 Speaker 7: artists go from different you know, different venues and how 1034 00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:51,759 Speaker 7: they I already know what you're gonna do at the 1035 00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:54,680 Speaker 7: Blue Note, I know what you're gonna do at some ropes. 1036 00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:57,880 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying you. That room's gonna be incredible. 1037 00:56:58,440 --> 00:57:02,520 Speaker 7: But sixty seventy thous and people acting like they're in 1038 00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:03,319 Speaker 7: the summer. 1039 00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:07,440 Speaker 2: That's that part. You turn, you turn, don't. 1040 00:57:07,239 --> 00:57:11,480 Speaker 7: Know the person next to them, literally from across the country. 1041 00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:13,040 Speaker 3: That's different. 1042 00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:14,880 Speaker 4: That is good, it's different. 1043 00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:16,040 Speaker 3: That that's great. 1044 00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:17,959 Speaker 4: Thank you, it's great. 1045 00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:20,960 Speaker 7: I seen my own eyes and then you know, you did. 1046 00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:24,160 Speaker 7: The microphone stuff. 1047 00:57:23,160 --> 00:57:24,440 Speaker 3: Went on went on the internet. 1048 00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:32,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, I got yeah, viral, lots of conversations, lots of 1049 00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:34,400 Speaker 4: conversations about that one. 1050 00:57:34,560 --> 00:57:37,000 Speaker 7: So can I ask, since we're there, yes, was that 1051 00:57:37,080 --> 00:57:38,400 Speaker 7: premeditated for you? 1052 00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:40,520 Speaker 3: Like, okay, I'm going to add this to my show. 1053 00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:46,880 Speaker 6: No, no, no, it kind of happened one night. I 1054 00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:50,120 Speaker 6: was talking about conflict resolution. 1055 00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:58,760 Speaker 3: Conflict, conflict, conflict. 1056 00:57:59,480 --> 00:58:01,680 Speaker 2: In going through. 1057 00:58:03,080 --> 00:58:07,280 Speaker 4: Sometimes you know, it's alution. 1058 00:58:07,240 --> 00:58:11,000 Speaker 6: Sometimes and that's what we were talking about. And it 1059 00:58:11,120 --> 00:58:14,800 Speaker 6: was so funny and it worked so well that I 1060 00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:17,240 Speaker 6: added it to the show. And I must have been 1061 00:58:17,240 --> 00:58:20,040 Speaker 6: doing that skit maybe off and on for about five 1062 00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:21,960 Speaker 6: years before it went viral. 1063 00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:27,200 Speaker 4: So my audience, God bless you, love you. They kept 1064 00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:30,680 Speaker 4: it amongst us for five years, they kept it together. 1065 00:58:31,520 --> 00:58:32,360 Speaker 4: It was it was. 1066 00:58:32,320 --> 00:58:36,040 Speaker 6: A secret funny. It was a secret you know, key 1067 00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:39,840 Speaker 6: key between us. And then somebody was there and they 1068 00:58:39,880 --> 00:58:42,160 Speaker 6: didn't they didn't know what was happening, and they were 1069 00:58:42,160 --> 00:58:46,160 Speaker 6: like what. And then it went viral and I was like, damn, 1070 00:58:46,560 --> 00:58:48,480 Speaker 6: you're not going to understand out of context. 1071 00:58:49,040 --> 00:58:50,479 Speaker 4: But what I do during my show. 1072 00:58:50,560 --> 00:58:54,880 Speaker 6: I grew up watching like Bette Midler and Carol Burnett 1073 00:58:55,840 --> 00:58:59,280 Speaker 6: and Whoopi Goldberg and in the middle of the show, 1074 00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:01,240 Speaker 6: you know, just stop and I'll maybe I'll do a 1075 00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:04,760 Speaker 6: monologue or a joke or like I used to have 1076 00:59:04,800 --> 00:59:09,720 Speaker 6: this thing called ball Fresh, you know, for for for. 1077 00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:10,439 Speaker 4: Men whose balls. 1078 00:59:10,520 --> 00:59:12,840 Speaker 2: Think that's where I thought this, and. 1079 00:59:12,840 --> 00:59:15,520 Speaker 6: Yeah, and I would every time I would, I would 1080 00:59:15,520 --> 00:59:16,880 Speaker 6: do a commercial for ball Fresh. 1081 00:59:16,920 --> 00:59:19,160 Speaker 4: And every time I would do a commercial, yes, it 1082 00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:20,840 Speaker 4: was a commercial in the middle of the show. 1083 00:59:21,600 --> 00:59:24,000 Speaker 6: And then I had a can, it had a BF 1084 00:59:24,080 --> 00:59:27,160 Speaker 6: on it and all kinds of flowers and stuff. And 1085 00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:31,040 Speaker 6: then I'd be like, if your balls stink terribly, why 1086 00:59:31,080 --> 00:59:35,280 Speaker 6: don't you trying? You know, got to cue my triangle, 1087 00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:39,000 Speaker 6: think ball fresh? And you know, then I would get 1088 00:59:39,200 --> 00:59:42,040 Speaker 6: the musicians. I'd be like, hey, so tell me about 1089 00:59:42,080 --> 00:59:44,280 Speaker 6: your story, and they would go in the character and 1090 00:59:44,320 --> 00:59:44,680 Speaker 6: tell me. 1091 00:59:44,760 --> 00:59:47,360 Speaker 3: You know, my wife, it had the smell of my balls. 1092 00:59:47,840 --> 00:59:50,840 Speaker 5: You should smell like garbage juice. 1093 00:59:51,240 --> 00:59:55,520 Speaker 4: And you know then, well, and now you tried ball fresh. 1094 00:59:55,600 --> 00:59:55,840 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1095 00:59:56,200 --> 00:59:59,240 Speaker 6: So we had a bunch of things and that one 1096 00:59:59,360 --> 01:00:02,840 Speaker 6: just happened to go crazy. 1097 01:00:03,440 --> 01:00:08,080 Speaker 4: And here's the thing. I grew up listening to Millie Jackson. Yep, 1098 01:00:08,840 --> 01:00:11,160 Speaker 4: me and my mom in the basement with some man 1099 01:00:11,160 --> 01:00:14,520 Speaker 4: of chevins listening to the pointed sisters and Milly Jackson, 1100 01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:21,840 Speaker 4: what are you talking about? All the way live. 1101 01:00:21,640 --> 01:00:21,920 Speaker 2: Out? 1102 01:00:23,120 --> 01:00:24,760 Speaker 4: And I loved it. I loved it. 1103 01:00:25,440 --> 01:00:27,840 Speaker 6: Like I said, I come from Amazon women. They are 1104 01:00:27,880 --> 01:00:32,880 Speaker 6: not shy about any parts of themselves and are beloved 1105 01:00:33,520 --> 01:00:33,960 Speaker 6: for it. 1106 01:00:34,840 --> 01:00:37,000 Speaker 4: I watch my aunts, I watch my. 1107 01:00:37,040 --> 01:00:46,560 Speaker 6: Mom, I watch men fall at their feet, anything you want, Annie, 1108 01:00:50,760 --> 01:00:54,840 Speaker 6: And it was. It was wonderful, fascinating. Sometimes they be 1109 01:00:55,320 --> 01:00:58,360 Speaker 6: a size eight or ten. Sometimes they be a size twenty. 1110 01:00:58,640 --> 01:01:00,920 Speaker 6: It didn't seem to make a difference. They still had 1111 01:01:00,960 --> 01:01:03,600 Speaker 6: the same effect on the men. They had that effect 1112 01:01:03,720 --> 01:01:08,640 Speaker 6: on And I watched that, and I have no reason 1113 01:01:09,760 --> 01:01:13,600 Speaker 6: to not be all of myself. They're like, oh, she 1114 01:01:13,680 --> 01:01:15,880 Speaker 6: put it down her throat. No, I just made you 1115 01:01:15,960 --> 01:01:19,120 Speaker 6: think I did. I just made you think I did. 1116 01:01:20,720 --> 01:01:25,240 Speaker 6: I'm an actor, That's what I do. I made it 1117 01:01:25,240 --> 01:01:27,160 Speaker 6: look good, real good. 1118 01:01:27,240 --> 01:01:31,320 Speaker 2: I mean, you're an actor for sure, not just an actor. 1119 01:01:32,240 --> 01:01:33,400 Speaker 4: I mean I've I've learned. 1120 01:01:33,440 --> 01:01:37,480 Speaker 6: I've had a great experience acting from you know, like 1121 01:01:37,520 --> 01:01:39,760 Speaker 6: I said, building the sets and hanging the lights and 1122 01:01:39,800 --> 01:01:44,120 Speaker 6: so on, the costumes and running lines with great actors, 1123 01:01:44,640 --> 01:01:47,840 Speaker 6: really amazing actors that have gone on to do TV 1124 01:01:47,960 --> 01:01:59,560 Speaker 6: shows and Broadway plays, and like I see them. 1125 01:02:00,080 --> 01:02:03,320 Speaker 3: You consider yourself first a writer, a writer. So that's 1126 01:02:03,320 --> 01:02:05,920 Speaker 3: the first thing of all things. Somebody asks you just 1127 01:02:05,920 --> 01:02:07,080 Speaker 3: got what are you a writer? 1128 01:02:08,600 --> 01:02:14,120 Speaker 7: Yep, Because we had that conversation with Till about what 1129 01:02:14,160 --> 01:02:16,080 Speaker 7: we the occupation. 1130 01:02:16,560 --> 01:02:18,240 Speaker 2: And what do you what do you? 1131 01:02:18,280 --> 01:02:20,320 Speaker 7: What do you write down? Is your occupation? What did 1132 01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:22,919 Speaker 7: he say it's crazy about? 1133 01:02:22,920 --> 01:02:25,919 Speaker 3: He writes down a boxer, he writes down the way 1134 01:02:25,960 --> 01:02:26,520 Speaker 3: a boxer. 1135 01:02:27,520 --> 01:02:30,600 Speaker 4: He's a boxer first, walking around like. 1136 01:02:31,520 --> 01:02:33,840 Speaker 7: Because to me, like I was saying on that episode 1137 01:02:33,840 --> 01:02:35,800 Speaker 7: that I just didn't consider what we do to be 1138 01:02:35,920 --> 01:02:41,720 Speaker 7: work like this is something I just love, all forms 1139 01:02:41,720 --> 01:02:43,560 Speaker 7: of entertainment. It's just what I love to do. So 1140 01:02:43,560 --> 01:02:45,600 Speaker 7: I don't I don't really know what to put. I've 1141 01:02:45,600 --> 01:02:46,520 Speaker 7: never known what to put. 1142 01:02:48,040 --> 01:02:50,200 Speaker 4: So writer, what do you put? 1143 01:02:52,400 --> 01:02:55,400 Speaker 2: I think I just put entertainer trying a whole bunch 1144 01:02:55,400 --> 01:02:57,440 Speaker 2: of shit too. Those it's like a label owner. 1145 01:02:58,320 --> 01:03:00,919 Speaker 3: That sounds cool, that sounds good. 1146 01:03:01,440 --> 01:03:02,080 Speaker 2: A doctor. 1147 01:03:03,040 --> 01:03:04,960 Speaker 3: I do have a doctor, Jay Irving, when I grow up? 1148 01:03:06,320 --> 01:03:07,680 Speaker 2: Label owner? Label owner? 1149 01:03:10,800 --> 01:03:12,120 Speaker 4: When did I meet you? Jay Irving? 1150 01:03:14,440 --> 01:03:16,720 Speaker 6: At the five spot and one of those jam sessions? 1151 01:03:17,360 --> 01:03:18,240 Speaker 6: And when did I meet you? 1152 01:03:18,280 --> 01:03:18,840 Speaker 4: Sean Ge. 1153 01:03:22,960 --> 01:03:23,240 Speaker 2: What? 1154 01:03:23,760 --> 01:03:24,680 Speaker 3: I'm in high school? 1155 01:03:24,840 --> 01:03:26,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, we go back. 1156 01:03:27,840 --> 01:03:30,520 Speaker 6: We went on a prom together. Well we we had 1157 01:03:30,640 --> 01:03:32,400 Speaker 6: different dates, but we weren't. 1158 01:03:32,240 --> 01:03:34,120 Speaker 3: Prom's y'all was in the same lemoy. 1159 01:03:34,640 --> 01:03:38,640 Speaker 2: That is great, that's great. 1160 01:03:38,720 --> 01:03:44,000 Speaker 4: Jay Irving and Seawan Gee. It's a what a blessed existence. 1161 01:03:44,040 --> 01:03:46,280 Speaker 7: I tell you now, y'all, what I will say, And 1162 01:03:46,280 --> 01:03:48,000 Speaker 7: I've said this to a lot of people, and y'all 1163 01:03:48,040 --> 01:03:51,120 Speaker 7: may disagree because you're all from there. But in the business, 1164 01:03:51,720 --> 01:03:52,680 Speaker 7: Philly stick together. 1165 01:03:52,840 --> 01:03:56,480 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, for the most part, I would say, yeah. 1166 01:03:56,440 --> 01:03:58,360 Speaker 2: Y'all got y'all know who everybody is? 1167 01:03:58,600 --> 01:04:00,360 Speaker 3: Yeah for sure, Yeah yeah, definitely all each other. 1168 01:04:00,440 --> 01:04:00,640 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1169 01:04:00,800 --> 01:04:03,160 Speaker 7: But I'm saying that it's a lot of you guys 1170 01:04:04,280 --> 01:04:07,640 Speaker 7: and girls who do business together, you know what I mean. 1171 01:04:07,720 --> 01:04:09,400 Speaker 7: Where it's just like, oh no, I'm gonna do that 1172 01:04:09,480 --> 01:04:12,080 Speaker 7: deal with with Jay. I'm gonna do that deal with Sean. 1173 01:04:12,120 --> 01:04:14,640 Speaker 7: Are you meet somebody from Philly and they're like, oh yeah. 1174 01:04:14,560 --> 01:04:17,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, gave me. 1175 01:04:19,720 --> 01:04:22,640 Speaker 7: I was Actually the way I met Sean Stockman from 1176 01:04:22,720 --> 01:04:26,240 Speaker 7: Voice to Men is I pulled up on dram Vidal 1177 01:04:27,240 --> 01:04:27,680 Speaker 7: years ago. 1178 01:04:27,800 --> 01:04:29,400 Speaker 3: Uncle Mark, Uncle Mark. 1179 01:04:29,520 --> 01:04:31,400 Speaker 7: Uncle Mark told me come to the studio, off fly 1180 01:04:31,520 --> 01:04:35,400 Speaker 7: to Philly, and I ended up meeting Sean Stocking. I'm like, girl, 1181 01:04:35,480 --> 01:04:40,040 Speaker 7: loving you my whole like this is twenty plus years ago. 1182 01:04:40,160 --> 01:04:41,400 Speaker 4: Sean would not remember me. 1183 01:04:42,520 --> 01:04:46,360 Speaker 6: My girlfriend knew with somebody, and we ended up going 1184 01:04:46,400 --> 01:04:49,600 Speaker 6: to Mike's house and Mike had a dog. 1185 01:04:51,000 --> 01:04:56,280 Speaker 4: I'm not supposed to say names. Mike had a. 1186 01:04:56,160 --> 01:05:01,160 Speaker 6: Dog, and the dog I'm sorry, it was horrendous. Somebody 1187 01:05:01,200 --> 01:05:04,520 Speaker 6: had mixed like a terrier and a hot like a bull. 1188 01:05:04,640 --> 01:05:06,520 Speaker 6: No it was like a pit bull and a hot 1189 01:05:06,520 --> 01:05:09,640 Speaker 6: dog together. So it was big up top and it 1190 01:05:09,680 --> 01:05:12,560 Speaker 6: had these little tiny legs, and it scared me. 1191 01:05:13,640 --> 01:05:14,640 Speaker 4: You know, what is that? 1192 01:05:15,040 --> 01:05:15,600 Speaker 3: What is that? 1193 01:05:16,520 --> 01:05:19,120 Speaker 6: And Mike got so mad that he picked me up 1194 01:05:19,440 --> 01:05:22,520 Speaker 6: and put me out his house nowhere. 1195 01:05:23,200 --> 01:05:24,200 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, she gotta go. 1196 01:05:26,160 --> 01:05:29,800 Speaker 4: About his dog, about his dog, and had to get 1197 01:05:29,840 --> 01:05:30,800 Speaker 4: and put he put me out. 1198 01:05:31,120 --> 01:05:34,520 Speaker 6: My coat was inside everything. They were all there. They 1199 01:05:34,520 --> 01:05:35,520 Speaker 6: wouldn't remember. 1200 01:05:35,240 --> 01:05:36,200 Speaker 4: That, but I do. 1201 01:05:37,920 --> 01:05:39,080 Speaker 3: That's such a great story. 1202 01:05:39,360 --> 01:05:41,560 Speaker 4: Years later I bought Mike's house. 1203 01:05:41,320 --> 01:05:47,520 Speaker 1: From nobody kicking me out of it. 1204 01:05:50,120 --> 01:05:50,840 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1205 01:05:51,320 --> 01:05:54,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, years later I bought the house. Well, I mean 1206 01:05:54,200 --> 01:05:55,320 Speaker 3: he sold it the dogs. 1207 01:05:56,200 --> 01:05:57,280 Speaker 2: You could have bought any house. 1208 01:05:58,880 --> 01:05:59,840 Speaker 4: No, I like that house. 1209 01:06:00,040 --> 01:06:00,720 Speaker 2: I bet you did. 1210 01:06:01,480 --> 01:06:03,720 Speaker 3: I got some ship that I still got to go 1211 01:06:03,760 --> 01:06:06,280 Speaker 3: back again, ye. 1212 01:06:08,320 --> 01:06:09,000 Speaker 2: Coming back again. 1213 01:06:09,200 --> 01:06:12,240 Speaker 3: I don't think about it that way, but that's how 1214 01:06:12,280 --> 01:06:16,640 Speaker 3: I go. Yeah, baby face bought the Solar building like 1215 01:06:16,720 --> 01:06:19,200 Speaker 3: this is how. This is what music can do for you, 1216 01:06:20,560 --> 01:06:21,400 Speaker 3: beside to you one. 1217 01:06:21,360 --> 01:06:24,280 Speaker 2: Day that I can buy the building. Get out, get out. 1218 01:06:24,920 --> 01:06:26,440 Speaker 3: I wish your nigga would carry me out. 1219 01:06:26,480 --> 01:06:30,080 Speaker 4: I'm coming back and by its supposed to be like that, 1220 01:06:30,120 --> 01:06:32,000 Speaker 4: but it just worked out like that. It just worked 1221 01:06:32,000 --> 01:06:32,680 Speaker 4: out like that. 1222 01:06:32,600 --> 01:06:33,440 Speaker 2: You said acting. 1223 01:06:33,880 --> 01:06:38,320 Speaker 1: Yes, I I had no idea that you were that 1224 01:06:38,760 --> 01:06:39,560 Speaker 1: kind of an actor. 1225 01:06:40,800 --> 01:06:43,320 Speaker 2: Who kind of an actor is a. 1226 01:06:45,440 --> 01:06:45,840 Speaker 4: Thank you? 1227 01:06:45,960 --> 01:06:47,320 Speaker 2: An actor, thank you. 1228 01:06:47,600 --> 01:06:49,320 Speaker 3: You know that nigga just came out brown Way, so. 1229 01:06:49,520 --> 01:06:53,040 Speaker 4: I know I saw him because I saw he is great. 1230 01:06:53,320 --> 01:06:59,360 Speaker 1: Because because everybody gives, they give the singers, and then 1231 01:06:59,400 --> 01:07:01,760 Speaker 1: the people who come from other spaces they give us. 1232 01:07:02,520 --> 01:07:06,720 Speaker 1: You know, they doubt us, hm, you doubt our ability 1233 01:07:06,800 --> 01:07:08,960 Speaker 1: to But I mean, but you started off. Your your 1234 01:07:08,960 --> 01:07:12,160 Speaker 1: starting was different because you you started from that Broadway place, 1235 01:07:12,200 --> 01:07:14,480 Speaker 1: so I'm sure you were. You may may have been 1236 01:07:14,560 --> 01:07:17,800 Speaker 1: viewed differently, but you had had so much music success. 1237 01:07:17,840 --> 01:07:21,680 Speaker 1: Do you feel like there was still some some the 1238 01:07:21,880 --> 01:07:25,160 Speaker 1: joubt in terms of your ability. 1239 01:07:24,680 --> 01:07:25,680 Speaker 2: To to act. 1240 01:07:25,840 --> 01:07:29,800 Speaker 6: I had the audition for everything, primarily especially in the beginning. 1241 01:07:29,800 --> 01:07:32,280 Speaker 6: I auditioned for Tyler Perry for Why Did I Get Married? 1242 01:07:33,000 --> 01:07:36,240 Speaker 6: I had to auditioned for the Number one Ladies Detective 1243 01:07:36,240 --> 01:07:39,800 Speaker 6: Agency six times something about that six. 1244 01:07:41,040 --> 01:07:44,040 Speaker 7: Somebody said a nigga in their head with the champagne 1245 01:07:44,040 --> 01:07:44,960 Speaker 7: bottle during the audition. 1246 01:07:45,080 --> 01:07:45,439 Speaker 2: I didn't. 1247 01:07:45,560 --> 01:07:47,080 Speaker 3: I wish that had to come later. 1248 01:07:47,200 --> 01:07:48,600 Speaker 4: No, I had to learn that on the spot. 1249 01:07:48,720 --> 01:07:55,600 Speaker 3: I terrified feel. When I saw it, I was like, oh, yeah, yeah, 1250 01:07:55,680 --> 01:07:56,400 Speaker 3: she will tell. 1251 01:07:58,000 --> 01:07:58,720 Speaker 4: That was fun. 1252 01:07:59,080 --> 01:08:01,880 Speaker 6: But I needed to make sure because, like, you don't know, 1253 01:08:02,080 --> 01:08:05,720 Speaker 6: but Richard T. Jones is literally one of the sweetest, craziest, 1254 01:08:06,240 --> 01:08:07,920 Speaker 6: fun people that I know. 1255 01:08:08,080 --> 01:08:12,640 Speaker 4: Like he's pure. It's pure. So I didn't want to 1256 01:08:12,680 --> 01:08:13,200 Speaker 4: hurt him. 1257 01:08:13,440 --> 01:08:14,920 Speaker 6: I was like, you have to prove to me that 1258 01:08:14,960 --> 01:08:18,439 Speaker 6: I'm not about to hurt him because I didn't want 1259 01:08:18,439 --> 01:08:19,280 Speaker 6: to hold back either. 1260 01:08:19,400 --> 01:08:23,320 Speaker 4: I wanted to hit him hard. He deserved it. Yeah, 1261 01:08:23,439 --> 01:08:24,360 Speaker 4: I want to get him hard. 1262 01:08:25,080 --> 01:08:28,479 Speaker 3: I'm usually rooting for the man in most movies. Yeah, 1263 01:08:28,640 --> 01:08:29,559 Speaker 3: I wasn't root for him. 1264 01:08:29,560 --> 01:08:30,320 Speaker 4: That's how good he is. 1265 01:08:30,439 --> 01:08:31,080 Speaker 2: Yeah I was. 1266 01:08:31,160 --> 01:08:33,519 Speaker 3: I wasn't roo that's how good. She probably should have 1267 01:08:33,600 --> 01:08:33,800 Speaker 3: hit that. 1268 01:08:33,920 --> 01:08:39,120 Speaker 4: Probably that's how good he is. 1269 01:08:39,560 --> 01:08:42,320 Speaker 3: That scene and then the bathroom scene. 1270 01:08:42,560 --> 01:08:48,519 Speaker 7: Yeah, when you told her, I thought, when I saw 1271 01:08:48,600 --> 01:08:52,320 Speaker 7: you again, I might whoop your ass, but. 1272 01:08:53,880 --> 01:08:57,120 Speaker 3: I'd rather pray for you. I was like, Wow, this 1273 01:08:57,200 --> 01:08:59,559 Speaker 3: is I was like, oh this is real. 1274 01:08:59,560 --> 01:09:03,559 Speaker 4: You know, but God bless everybody. I love y'all. I 1275 01:09:03,600 --> 01:09:07,160 Speaker 4: really need you to understand it. I'm not Sheila. I'm not. 1276 01:09:09,120 --> 01:09:10,080 Speaker 3: It got some sheloaded. 1277 01:09:10,560 --> 01:09:14,080 Speaker 4: Maybe I can relate to Sheila. I'm supposed to relate and. 1278 01:09:14,040 --> 01:09:15,800 Speaker 7: In a way I got some sheloaded like that. You 1279 01:09:15,840 --> 01:09:17,280 Speaker 7: know you're not playing around. 1280 01:09:17,040 --> 01:09:21,960 Speaker 4: No Sheila. Sheila definitely let her man walk all over her. 1281 01:09:22,400 --> 01:09:23,759 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, she did it. 1282 01:09:23,680 --> 01:09:27,760 Speaker 4: For a long time. I don't do that. I do 1283 01:09:27,920 --> 01:09:28,280 Speaker 4: believe in. 1284 01:09:28,320 --> 01:09:32,479 Speaker 6: It doesn't feel good, I gotta go. Yeah, it's just 1285 01:09:32,560 --> 01:09:35,479 Speaker 6: it's simple for me. It's got to stay good. 1286 01:09:35,840 --> 01:09:36,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I. 1287 01:09:36,600 --> 01:09:38,040 Speaker 4: Work for it. I work for the good. 1288 01:09:38,080 --> 01:09:40,680 Speaker 6: But after I've after I've worked, and it's there's no 1289 01:09:40,760 --> 01:09:45,800 Speaker 6: more than I can release it m because it can't 1290 01:09:45,800 --> 01:09:46,400 Speaker 6: be my life. 1291 01:09:47,520 --> 01:09:48,280 Speaker 4: That can't be it. 1292 01:09:48,600 --> 01:09:52,160 Speaker 7: Nah. I gotta ask you about another not an antelope, 1293 01:09:52,160 --> 01:09:53,320 Speaker 7: but the beginning of a song. 1294 01:09:53,680 --> 01:09:54,599 Speaker 3: When you say. 1295 01:09:56,680 --> 01:10:00,400 Speaker 7: That you went and got the cologne for the new 1296 01:10:00,479 --> 01:10:02,000 Speaker 7: man that the old man used to wear. 1297 01:10:04,280 --> 01:10:05,719 Speaker 4: I didn't like that toxic. 1298 01:10:05,880 --> 01:10:11,400 Speaker 7: I didn't like it, but I like how you said 1299 01:10:11,479 --> 01:10:14,200 Speaker 7: us everything for everybody because it's stunk on that new nigga. 1300 01:10:14,400 --> 01:10:16,000 Speaker 5: Yes, it's stunk. 1301 01:10:16,280 --> 01:10:17,840 Speaker 3: It did not smell right over here. 1302 01:10:18,320 --> 01:10:19,280 Speaker 4: It was a metaphor. 1303 01:10:19,720 --> 01:10:21,200 Speaker 7: No, it wasn't not for me because I was like, 1304 01:10:21,240 --> 01:10:23,720 Speaker 7: you know what, I'm known for my smell, and this 1305 01:10:23,800 --> 01:10:26,400 Speaker 7: is why I don't be telling them the colone I 1306 01:10:26,439 --> 01:10:28,160 Speaker 7: wear right here because she's gonna try to put this 1307 01:10:28,360 --> 01:10:30,120 Speaker 7: on this new nigga. 1308 01:10:30,320 --> 01:10:32,280 Speaker 3: Hey put my colone on the new nigga. It's gonna 1309 01:10:32,280 --> 01:10:32,680 Speaker 3: stink it. 1310 01:10:32,720 --> 01:10:36,439 Speaker 6: I'm glad it worked. It was a metaphor. It literally 1311 01:10:36,520 --> 01:10:37,120 Speaker 6: was a metaphor. 1312 01:10:37,479 --> 01:10:39,080 Speaker 3: What's the metaphor for that? 1313 01:10:39,840 --> 01:10:43,400 Speaker 4: You can try to put the old thing on the 1314 01:10:43,479 --> 01:10:43,880 Speaker 4: new thing. 1315 01:10:43,880 --> 01:10:47,880 Speaker 6: It's not gonna wear. It's gotta begin a new thing 1316 01:10:49,680 --> 01:10:50,439 Speaker 6: with the new thing. 1317 01:10:51,760 --> 01:10:54,000 Speaker 7: I think that's why people love your music so much, 1318 01:10:55,120 --> 01:11:00,000 Speaker 7: because it's so relatable. It's it's extremely relatable. I mean 1319 01:11:00,080 --> 01:11:03,040 Speaker 7: even you go back to A Long Walk to me, 1320 01:11:03,920 --> 01:11:06,920 Speaker 7: that is the greatest date song of ever all time. 1321 01:11:06,960 --> 01:11:13,240 Speaker 7: To me, that because it simplifies so dope, it simplifies life. 1322 01:11:14,479 --> 01:11:15,760 Speaker 3: But then it's but then it's all. 1323 01:11:15,840 --> 01:11:18,120 Speaker 7: And it's something that that that I paid attention to 1324 01:11:18,200 --> 01:11:21,880 Speaker 7: as I actually gotten older and I realized that the 1325 01:11:22,000 --> 01:11:24,559 Speaker 7: verses that you were talking about are from the Bible 1326 01:11:25,600 --> 01:11:28,519 Speaker 7: and from the Koran. And I think that went over 1327 01:11:28,560 --> 01:11:29,800 Speaker 7: a lot of people's. 1328 01:11:29,400 --> 01:11:31,519 Speaker 4: Heads for many, many many years, you. 1329 01:11:31,479 --> 01:11:35,040 Speaker 7: Know, and I was just like, Oh, she really wants 1330 01:11:35,040 --> 01:11:38,719 Speaker 7: to sit and learn with you, and that is something 1331 01:11:38,800 --> 01:11:43,080 Speaker 7: different than can you take me to Ruth Chris or 1332 01:11:43,240 --> 01:11:45,640 Speaker 7: flying to the Bahamas to be whatever I'm going to 1333 01:11:45,680 --> 01:11:46,559 Speaker 7: be for this week. 1334 01:11:47,000 --> 01:11:48,719 Speaker 4: Are nice, It's. 1335 01:11:48,560 --> 01:11:50,759 Speaker 3: A days go on a long walk. 1336 01:11:50,880 --> 01:11:53,440 Speaker 2: We should be exchanging some real information. 1337 01:11:54,400 --> 01:11:56,600 Speaker 5: Jesus spark of friendship. 1338 01:11:56,800 --> 01:12:01,160 Speaker 6: Yeah, I feeled enough in love to know that you 1339 01:12:01,400 --> 01:12:03,880 Speaker 6: really must get your friendship game strong. 1340 01:12:04,560 --> 01:12:05,840 Speaker 4: You have really got that. 1341 01:12:05,960 --> 01:12:08,800 Speaker 6: You got the other stuff gets in a way when 1342 01:12:08,840 --> 01:12:10,000 Speaker 6: your friendship is there. 1343 01:12:10,320 --> 01:12:12,880 Speaker 4: You don't want to hurt your friend. You would hate 1344 01:12:12,880 --> 01:12:17,400 Speaker 4: to hurt your friend. This friend, my best friend. I 1345 01:12:17,400 --> 01:12:20,240 Speaker 4: don't want to do that. It changes things. It's important. 1346 01:12:20,880 --> 01:12:24,559 Speaker 6: So a long walk really is a It's a how 1347 01:12:24,640 --> 01:12:28,200 Speaker 6: to to have a date. And if someone doesn't appreciate 1348 01:12:28,240 --> 01:12:30,320 Speaker 6: the things that you're doing, it's time to go on 1349 01:12:30,360 --> 01:12:32,120 Speaker 6: another date with somebody else. 1350 01:12:33,600 --> 01:12:36,840 Speaker 4: Everything is not about money. Money is really great. I 1351 01:12:36,960 --> 01:12:40,559 Speaker 4: enjoy it. I try to spend it wisely. I try 1352 01:12:40,600 --> 01:12:43,439 Speaker 4: to use it rather than it use me. You know. 1353 01:12:44,120 --> 01:12:47,200 Speaker 6: But some things are just free, like putting your feet 1354 01:12:47,240 --> 01:12:52,919 Speaker 6: in some grass. You know what, isn't it great? 1355 01:12:53,760 --> 01:13:03,559 Speaker 3: Good? Yeah? All right? 1356 01:13:04,040 --> 01:13:07,400 Speaker 1: Can I ask you, because you know I'm from I'm 1357 01:13:07,400 --> 01:13:11,000 Speaker 1: from the d m V. I I was raised. 1358 01:13:13,479 --> 01:13:17,559 Speaker 2: When you went go go. I used to be in 1359 01:13:17,560 --> 01:13:19,679 Speaker 2: a go go band. What Yeah. 1360 01:13:19,880 --> 01:13:21,240 Speaker 1: I used to play keys in the Go Go bed 1361 01:13:21,320 --> 01:13:27,599 Speaker 1: and say cool when you went Go Go, I don't 1362 01:13:27,640 --> 01:13:34,080 Speaker 1: think you understand. Like for me kids from the d 1363 01:13:34,200 --> 01:13:39,280 Speaker 1: m V, I went from a fan to a stand 1364 01:13:40,560 --> 01:13:47,080 Speaker 1: nice because because that right there, nobody had went there 1365 01:13:47,439 --> 01:13:49,960 Speaker 1: and that was like, that was. 1366 01:13:49,880 --> 01:13:55,080 Speaker 2: The real deal. I tried, Oh man. 1367 01:13:54,960 --> 01:13:55,559 Speaker 4: I tried. 1368 01:13:56,120 --> 01:13:59,040 Speaker 6: I didn't have any like Go Go percussionists, so I 1369 01:13:59,040 --> 01:14:03,040 Speaker 6: found an African percussionists and it kind of it made sense. 1370 01:14:03,120 --> 01:14:05,600 Speaker 6: It just made it worked, it felt, you know, so 1371 01:14:05,640 --> 01:14:10,000 Speaker 6: it was an homage, not really like trying to grab it. 1372 01:14:10,240 --> 01:14:11,439 Speaker 4: But DC loved it. 1373 01:14:11,680 --> 01:14:14,479 Speaker 6: The DMV was like, girl, we love you. When I 1374 01:14:14,520 --> 01:14:16,719 Speaker 6: got over there, Finn that. 1375 01:14:16,720 --> 01:14:18,479 Speaker 2: Audience, I wish I could have seen it before. 1376 01:14:21,800 --> 01:14:23,080 Speaker 4: I didn't know what it was supposed to go on 1377 01:14:23,120 --> 01:14:24,080 Speaker 4: for like ten minutes. 1378 01:14:24,080 --> 01:14:27,160 Speaker 2: No no, no, no, you could do that for fifteen if 1379 01:14:27,160 --> 01:14:27,640 Speaker 2: you want to. 1380 01:14:28,320 --> 01:14:32,519 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that was great. A hot twenty that was great. 1381 01:14:32,520 --> 01:14:36,479 Speaker 6: It's love had been like four different things, and then 1382 01:14:36,560 --> 01:14:40,080 Speaker 6: I was just I love the lyrics, love the lyrics, 1383 01:14:40,080 --> 01:14:43,160 Speaker 6: I love how it felt, but it just didn't land 1384 01:14:43,200 --> 01:14:43,960 Speaker 6: on anything yet. 1385 01:14:44,000 --> 01:14:45,559 Speaker 4: And I was like, well, let's try go Go. 1386 01:14:46,720 --> 01:14:49,080 Speaker 2: But had you had you been to go go once, 1387 01:14:49,960 --> 01:14:51,360 Speaker 2: it's different. Here's whatever. 1388 01:14:52,680 --> 01:14:55,799 Speaker 4: You come out with your hair sweated out, your clothes 1389 01:14:55,800 --> 01:14:57,719 Speaker 4: stuck to you. 1390 01:14:57,720 --> 01:15:00,479 Speaker 3: You you thought I was from out there. We went 1391 01:15:00,479 --> 01:15:02,120 Speaker 3: out there for a big take a weekend. I'm like, no, 1392 01:15:02,200 --> 01:15:03,080 Speaker 3: I ain't leaving, man, what. 1393 01:15:05,800 --> 01:15:08,080 Speaker 2: You want to go? That's some mumbo sauce. 1394 01:15:11,040 --> 01:15:12,320 Speaker 4: You look like a DCG. 1395 01:15:13,120 --> 01:15:18,639 Speaker 3: There you're cap hell Now, I ain't going to college. 1396 01:15:20,520 --> 01:15:24,519 Speaker 2: Look like finished born in the game. 1397 01:15:24,520 --> 01:15:25,920 Speaker 3: We don't enjoy gangs in college. 1398 01:15:26,720 --> 01:15:28,040 Speaker 4: The gang you're born in the game. 1399 01:15:28,120 --> 01:15:31,400 Speaker 7: My family is one yeah about to ship, So yeah, 1400 01:15:32,080 --> 01:15:33,880 Speaker 7: we don't. We don't go to college to join gangs. 1401 01:15:34,040 --> 01:15:34,800 Speaker 4: Look at me. 1402 01:15:35,400 --> 01:15:36,599 Speaker 3: I've done well for myself. 1403 01:15:37,240 --> 01:15:41,400 Speaker 4: Up, that's right. I like that. 1404 01:15:41,439 --> 01:15:44,840 Speaker 3: I appreciate that. Yeah. I mean, I'm trying to live 1405 01:15:44,880 --> 01:15:48,000 Speaker 3: my life like it's golden. I just want to be there. 1406 01:15:48,200 --> 01:15:51,040 Speaker 6: That's what it means. Just in case anybody's got questions. 1407 01:15:52,080 --> 01:15:55,320 Speaker 6: Living your life like it's golden literally means following your path, 1408 01:15:56,760 --> 01:16:03,200 Speaker 6: like you know, Dorothy the Whiz they followed the yellow 1409 01:16:03,200 --> 01:16:06,639 Speaker 6: brick road. It's the same thing, Like your spirit will 1410 01:16:06,680 --> 01:16:09,679 Speaker 6: tell you this is good, this is the way to go. 1411 01:16:09,680 --> 01:16:13,479 Speaker 6: Go that way, even if it doesn't work out. The 1412 01:16:13,520 --> 01:16:17,320 Speaker 6: way you thought it would. Even if follow the road, 1413 01:16:17,400 --> 01:16:20,840 Speaker 6: follow the path, it'll take you somewhere else and somewhere else, 1414 01:16:20,880 --> 01:16:24,240 Speaker 6: and then maybe a year, maybe nine years later, you'll 1415 01:16:24,320 --> 01:16:27,280 Speaker 6: understand why you went that path. I didn't love working 1416 01:16:27,320 --> 01:16:30,000 Speaker 6: sixteen hours or fourteen hours a day at that theater 1417 01:16:30,080 --> 01:16:32,800 Speaker 6: company for two hundred and fifty dollars, living in my 1418 01:16:32,840 --> 01:16:36,400 Speaker 6: mother's basement. I didn't love that. I wanted to move out. 1419 01:16:36,840 --> 01:16:40,320 Speaker 6: I wanted to get a car. I wanted to buy clothes, 1420 01:16:40,400 --> 01:16:43,519 Speaker 6: I wanted to do stuff. But in hindsight, I see 1421 01:16:43,560 --> 01:16:46,680 Speaker 6: the value of why I was there and even why 1422 01:16:46,720 --> 01:16:47,280 Speaker 6: I stayed. 1423 01:16:47,600 --> 01:16:48,599 Speaker 4: I learned so much. 1424 01:16:49,240 --> 01:16:53,559 Speaker 6: I can communicate with people in the theater environment and 1425 01:16:53,680 --> 01:16:56,960 Speaker 6: on stage, you know, I can. I can say I 1426 01:16:57,040 --> 01:16:59,080 Speaker 6: need you to change this light to this, this and 1427 01:16:58,880 --> 01:17:02,919 Speaker 6: that and this and this, and you know, add pieces 1428 01:17:03,200 --> 01:17:06,320 Speaker 6: and move all kinds of things around the stage because 1429 01:17:06,320 --> 01:17:08,559 Speaker 6: it feels good and it looks good and it makes 1430 01:17:08,560 --> 01:17:09,760 Speaker 6: my audience interested. 1431 01:17:09,880 --> 01:17:11,200 Speaker 3: And you added to your toolbox. 1432 01:17:11,439 --> 01:17:14,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, and I'm wrong with a good toolbox. 1433 01:17:15,000 --> 01:17:15,320 Speaker 3: Nothing. 1434 01:17:15,600 --> 01:17:17,479 Speaker 2: It's so much par for the course. 1435 01:17:17,560 --> 01:17:20,120 Speaker 1: Like when you just look back on it and you 1436 01:17:20,160 --> 01:17:24,880 Speaker 1: can extrapulate, you can actually pinpoint the things as you say, 1437 01:17:24,960 --> 01:17:29,760 Speaker 1: tools that you grabbed from each of those moments that 1438 01:17:29,880 --> 01:17:33,840 Speaker 1: at the time felt hard or or sometimes could have 1439 01:17:33,840 --> 01:17:37,559 Speaker 1: felt counterproductive, or I felt like they were taking you somewhere, 1440 01:17:38,560 --> 01:17:41,080 Speaker 1: felt like they were taking you somewhere you didn't want 1441 01:17:41,120 --> 01:17:43,000 Speaker 1: to go when you wanted to go here, but you 1442 01:17:43,200 --> 01:17:47,439 Speaker 1: needed everything that was on this street before you could 1443 01:17:47,439 --> 01:17:49,400 Speaker 1: make that right. Then right, then another right and get 1444 01:17:49,400 --> 01:17:50,840 Speaker 1: back to the street that you wanted to get on. 1445 01:17:51,200 --> 01:17:56,919 Speaker 2: Yep. And that's everything I'm hearing in your journey. 1446 01:17:57,160 --> 01:17:57,920 Speaker 4: That's what it is. 1447 01:17:57,920 --> 01:17:59,360 Speaker 2: Not skipping any steps. 1448 01:18:02,160 --> 01:18:03,920 Speaker 4: I don't think I did. I mean, I don't know. 1449 01:18:04,040 --> 01:18:07,800 Speaker 4: There's so much more to learn you. There's so much codd. 1450 01:18:07,479 --> 01:18:13,439 Speaker 1: Would with poly You're a thing. Yeah, at the at 1451 01:18:13,439 --> 01:18:18,120 Speaker 1: the studio, you know, to to be. 1452 01:18:20,040 --> 01:18:22,040 Speaker 4: There, just to be. 1453 01:18:24,040 --> 01:18:27,160 Speaker 2: Like when it comes to music, I'll do. 1454 01:18:27,160 --> 01:18:30,320 Speaker 4: Anything, not anything. 1455 01:18:30,479 --> 01:18:34,040 Speaker 1: I'll sing this, I mean just within reason. I'll sing backgrounds. 1456 01:18:34,840 --> 01:18:38,519 Speaker 1: I'll play the keyboard. If you need me to learn instrument, 1457 01:18:38,560 --> 01:18:42,960 Speaker 1: I can play trumpet, food, I'll play the drums as 1458 01:18:43,000 --> 01:18:46,519 Speaker 1: I am right now, they say, are you I'm not 1459 01:18:46,560 --> 01:18:50,160 Speaker 1: too big to stand behind somebody's microphone. 1460 01:18:52,120 --> 01:18:52,360 Speaker 3: M h. 1461 01:18:54,000 --> 01:18:57,720 Speaker 1: I don't have to sing lead, but for this, I 1462 01:18:57,760 --> 01:19:00,599 Speaker 1: don't it's a it's a prideless venture for me. I'm 1463 01:19:00,600 --> 01:19:03,400 Speaker 1: willing to cote. I'm willing to get some poly your 1464 01:19:03,600 --> 01:19:07,200 Speaker 1: thane and stay in the studios if that means I 1465 01:19:07,240 --> 01:19:11,320 Speaker 1: get to be here every other day and learn this 1466 01:19:11,400 --> 01:19:15,280 Speaker 1: thing and be part of this thing. And that's that's 1467 01:19:15,320 --> 01:19:17,839 Speaker 1: that's really selling out to the gift. That's what you 1468 01:19:17,840 --> 01:19:20,719 Speaker 1: You gotta be there. I'm still surprised that you didn't 1469 01:19:20,720 --> 01:19:24,519 Speaker 1: know you could sing like that. I'm still shocked that. 1470 01:19:24,520 --> 01:19:25,200 Speaker 3: That is very shock. 1471 01:19:25,320 --> 01:19:26,880 Speaker 2: That is shocking. 1472 01:19:27,640 --> 01:19:31,559 Speaker 4: I don't want to talk about that anymore, you know, 1473 01:19:31,640 --> 01:19:32,280 Speaker 4: I don't. I don't. 1474 01:19:32,439 --> 01:19:35,519 Speaker 6: I really don't feel like people understand where I'm coming from. 1475 01:19:35,800 --> 01:19:36,800 Speaker 2: I get where you're coming from. 1476 01:19:36,800 --> 01:19:40,439 Speaker 5: Okay, you do, one hundred percent get it. 1477 01:19:40,439 --> 01:19:44,040 Speaker 4: Thank you, sa. I just say thank you because. 1478 01:19:43,760 --> 01:19:46,720 Speaker 1: When you say when you say it's mine, I understand 1479 01:19:47,360 --> 01:19:52,720 Speaker 1: what you mean by that, and so you know, it's 1480 01:19:52,840 --> 01:19:56,439 Speaker 1: it's like, this thing is so precious to you, and 1481 01:19:57,120 --> 01:20:03,080 Speaker 1: when you start exposing this thing to the world, lending 1482 01:20:03,120 --> 01:20:07,080 Speaker 1: it to people who aren't going to be careful, who 1483 01:20:07,080 --> 01:20:09,639 Speaker 1: aren't going to respect, who aren't going to love your 1484 01:20:09,760 --> 01:20:13,519 Speaker 1: thing the way you love it and need it to 1485 01:20:13,560 --> 01:20:14,080 Speaker 1: be loved. 1486 01:20:14,640 --> 01:20:16,240 Speaker 2: I understand exactly. 1487 01:20:15,760 --> 01:20:21,519 Speaker 6: What you're terrifying every time, every time, absolutely so I 1488 01:20:21,640 --> 01:20:25,519 Speaker 6: read there's this thing, it still feels so good. 1489 01:20:26,280 --> 01:20:28,920 Speaker 4: You gotta, you know, just get it and gotta get 1490 01:20:28,920 --> 01:20:29,600 Speaker 4: it out. 1491 01:20:29,240 --> 01:20:32,719 Speaker 6: Gotta go, Gotta get on the road, Gotta be amongst 1492 01:20:32,800 --> 01:20:36,160 Speaker 6: my bandmates, Gotta you know, hang out with my drivers, 1493 01:20:36,240 --> 01:20:40,120 Speaker 6: Gotta kick it with the caterers. Gotta because that's another thing. 1494 01:20:40,240 --> 01:20:45,120 Speaker 6: Oh my god, guys, every single person is important. 1495 01:20:45,200 --> 01:20:45,760 Speaker 2: Talk about it. 1496 01:20:46,439 --> 01:20:47,040 Speaker 4: Important. 1497 01:20:47,360 --> 01:20:49,920 Speaker 6: If lighting doesn't show up, your show's in the dark, 1498 01:20:50,160 --> 01:20:52,720 Speaker 6: talk about it. If the background want one of your 1499 01:20:52,760 --> 01:20:56,120 Speaker 6: background vocalists doesn't show up, You've got to make room 1500 01:20:56,200 --> 01:21:00,280 Speaker 6: for that note and understand how how things change, wants 1501 01:21:00,320 --> 01:21:04,679 Speaker 6: that notice missing. We all got to work together differently 1502 01:21:04,800 --> 01:21:08,280 Speaker 6: because we're covering spaces. If your drummer doesn't show up 1503 01:21:08,320 --> 01:21:11,040 Speaker 6: for the show, what you're doing, what we're gonna clap 1504 01:21:11,400 --> 01:21:12,400 Speaker 6: clap all night stop. 1505 01:21:13,200 --> 01:21:16,839 Speaker 3: Everybody has a part to playing it, and it's very important. 1506 01:21:16,920 --> 01:21:18,160 Speaker 2: It's funny them. 1507 01:21:18,240 --> 01:21:18,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, I was. 1508 01:21:19,000 --> 01:21:23,040 Speaker 7: I was randomly on live the other day and one 1509 01:21:23,080 --> 01:21:25,880 Speaker 7: of our drivers from tour or just our drivers period 1510 01:21:25,880 --> 01:21:29,800 Speaker 7: that always ros with us, Corey, he jumped in a 1511 01:21:29,840 --> 01:21:31,760 Speaker 7: live and just he just said something and it just. 1512 01:21:32,520 --> 01:21:33,120 Speaker 3: I lit up. 1513 01:21:34,120 --> 01:21:37,519 Speaker 7: I lit up because I'm like, I love Corey and 1514 01:21:38,120 --> 01:21:40,280 Speaker 7: I literally put my life in his hands. 1515 01:21:40,720 --> 01:21:41,639 Speaker 3: When we're on the road. 1516 01:21:42,080 --> 01:21:44,040 Speaker 7: This man is getting us from point A to point B, 1517 01:21:45,600 --> 01:21:47,599 Speaker 7: and I I never want. 1518 01:21:47,400 --> 01:21:48,360 Speaker 3: People to overlook that. 1519 01:21:48,560 --> 01:21:55,559 Speaker 7: Just like you said, like everybody is important, the caterers, security, security, oh. 1520 01:21:55,479 --> 01:21:57,240 Speaker 3: Man, big shots, you know. 1521 01:21:57,280 --> 01:21:59,320 Speaker 7: I mean, like, so for us, you know that that 1522 01:21:59,479 --> 01:22:01,880 Speaker 7: is I'm glad you said that. I am really glad 1523 01:22:01,880 --> 01:22:02,559 Speaker 7: that you said that. 1524 01:22:02,800 --> 01:22:05,840 Speaker 6: God I realized where I am, you know, with the 1525 01:22:06,000 --> 01:22:09,040 Speaker 6: R and B you know, kings of the world over here. 1526 01:22:09,680 --> 01:22:12,400 Speaker 6: And I just want to make sure that we talk 1527 01:22:12,479 --> 01:22:16,479 Speaker 6: about this business and what it takes. Yes, it takes 1528 01:22:16,479 --> 01:22:20,360 Speaker 6: a lot of diligence and not giving up on yourself 1529 01:22:20,400 --> 01:22:26,320 Speaker 6: and rehearsal, rehearsal, rehearsal, rehearsal, rehearsal so you can forget, rehearsal, 1530 01:22:26,400 --> 01:22:29,000 Speaker 6: so you can forget. You learn everything, and then you 1531 01:22:29,040 --> 01:22:31,640 Speaker 6: forget it and you live it every night, live in. 1532 01:22:31,680 --> 01:22:35,240 Speaker 4: Different it's different city, different energy, live it different every night. 1533 01:22:35,760 --> 01:22:38,320 Speaker 6: That's what it takes. I just wanted you, you know, 1534 01:22:38,400 --> 01:22:42,360 Speaker 6: to know that. And then of course living within your means. 1535 01:22:43,560 --> 01:22:48,160 Speaker 6: It matters that you don't get you know, a deal 1536 01:22:48,240 --> 01:22:50,680 Speaker 6: of some sort or some kind of contract, and then 1537 01:22:50,720 --> 01:22:52,720 Speaker 6: you just go spend all your money. 1538 01:22:52,880 --> 01:22:56,759 Speaker 4: This is entertainment. It's feast or famine. 1539 01:22:57,600 --> 01:23:01,080 Speaker 6: And when it's famine, Jesus Christ, little embarrassing. 1540 01:23:01,920 --> 01:23:04,439 Speaker 2: You know what you want to talk about that you 1541 01:23:04,600 --> 01:23:05,559 Speaker 2: want to talk about that? 1542 01:23:05,760 --> 01:23:09,640 Speaker 3: Oh boyd Jesus, she didn't watch your episodes, and you 1543 01:23:09,720 --> 01:23:11,559 Speaker 3: have to get up out of there. 1544 01:23:13,560 --> 01:23:17,599 Speaker 2: I've been in some famines and look at you, Oh. 1545 01:23:17,479 --> 01:23:21,200 Speaker 1: Look at me now, hey, I remember being in a 1546 01:23:22,080 --> 01:23:27,600 Speaker 1: stolen rental car us the money from Nash Trade to 1547 01:23:27,600 --> 01:23:34,040 Speaker 1: put in the gas tank coins real living in Rancho. 1548 01:23:33,960 --> 01:23:36,280 Speaker 6: With Dirty Dre well, we'll call them Dirty Dray and 1549 01:23:36,280 --> 01:23:41,360 Speaker 6: Philly Andre Harris. We went to all of us went 1550 01:23:41,400 --> 01:23:44,800 Speaker 6: to Great Adventures, and we stopped in McDonald's and we 1551 01:23:44,880 --> 01:23:48,759 Speaker 6: got small fries because in the back of each bag 1552 01:23:48,840 --> 01:23:51,000 Speaker 6: we each one had to have a bag. I'll take 1553 01:23:51,439 --> 01:23:54,640 Speaker 6: seven small fries with seven bags please. There was a 1554 01:23:54,680 --> 01:23:58,200 Speaker 6: coupon on the back of each bag for Great Adventures. 1555 01:23:58,600 --> 01:24:00,719 Speaker 6: So that's how we ended up going in the Greater Vendess. 1556 01:24:00,720 --> 01:24:01,679 Speaker 2: That's what I'm talking about. 1557 01:24:01,840 --> 01:24:05,840 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, Dre had in his car. It was a 1558 01:24:05,920 --> 01:24:08,800 Speaker 6: hole and I had to sit in the front. It 1559 01:24:08,880 --> 01:24:11,639 Speaker 6: was a hole, so I had to keep my feet 1560 01:24:11,680 --> 01:24:12,960 Speaker 6: on both sides of the hole. 1561 01:24:13,280 --> 01:24:20,800 Speaker 4: But I could see them, bro, I could see the 1562 01:24:20,880 --> 01:24:24,000 Speaker 4: road the whole time, so I could never fall asleep. 1563 01:24:24,960 --> 01:24:28,960 Speaker 4: Yeah right, because if you know what I'm saying, what 1564 01:24:29,479 --> 01:24:30,200 Speaker 4: more than a toe? 1565 01:24:31,880 --> 01:24:32,240 Speaker 2: More than? 1566 01:24:33,439 --> 01:24:43,280 Speaker 4: Yeah? 1567 01:24:43,320 --> 01:24:46,080 Speaker 3: Did you ever? Okay? When you did get your deal? Yeah? 1568 01:24:46,280 --> 01:24:48,080 Speaker 3: I got you a little bit extra coin. 1569 01:24:48,200 --> 01:24:49,439 Speaker 4: I got a little bit of money. 1570 01:24:49,479 --> 01:24:51,000 Speaker 3: Did you buy anything? Though? 1571 01:24:51,280 --> 01:24:52,639 Speaker 4: I paid off my student loan? 1572 01:24:52,960 --> 01:24:54,480 Speaker 3: Look at you being responsible? 1573 01:24:54,760 --> 01:24:56,800 Speaker 7: I did because I know people that's like eighty that 1574 01:24:56,920 --> 01:24:58,160 Speaker 7: still ain't. 1575 01:24:58,760 --> 01:25:00,800 Speaker 4: I hated how they kept calling my grandma. 1576 01:25:03,280 --> 01:25:07,240 Speaker 2: Where is Jill chill alone? 1577 01:25:14,080 --> 01:25:14,280 Speaker 3: Yeah? 1578 01:25:14,320 --> 01:25:15,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you're better than me? 1579 01:25:16,560 --> 01:25:17,360 Speaker 4: Yeah I did? 1580 01:25:17,600 --> 01:25:20,920 Speaker 1: You still got no, No, I ain't had no loans, 1581 01:25:20,960 --> 01:25:23,960 Speaker 1: but yeah I had some stuff that was outstanding, but 1582 01:25:24,600 --> 01:25:27,240 Speaker 1: they wasn't getting that money. I had to get to 1583 01:25:27,280 --> 01:25:30,600 Speaker 1: the strip club. They needed to see me, and I 1584 01:25:30,640 --> 01:25:38,280 Speaker 1: needed some rims at it. You understand what I'm saying. Hmm, responsible. 1585 01:25:39,040 --> 01:25:42,240 Speaker 2: With you? Listen, do you do you see a couple 1586 01:25:42,280 --> 01:25:44,720 Speaker 2: of things. You see Jill. You see how she's smiling. 1587 01:25:45,120 --> 01:25:49,080 Speaker 1: You see that that that's that's that's a responsible elegance. 1588 01:25:49,479 --> 01:25:57,240 Speaker 1: You see me, it's not it's not responsible elegance. No, 1589 01:25:57,640 --> 01:25:58,720 Speaker 1: I'm all trawling there. 1590 01:25:58,920 --> 01:26:02,519 Speaker 3: That's light. 1591 01:26:03,040 --> 01:26:11,240 Speaker 2: I'm a bunch of fucking it up a follow thing. 1592 01:26:13,080 --> 01:26:13,920 Speaker 4: That's hilarious. 1593 01:26:14,240 --> 01:26:28,720 Speaker 1: Let me see what's going on, Sister Jill Scott. I 1594 01:26:28,840 --> 01:26:30,680 Speaker 1: used the sister because you're from Philly. You know how 1595 01:26:30,720 --> 01:26:35,920 Speaker 1: I got sister Jill. We come to a very special 1596 01:26:35,960 --> 01:26:38,760 Speaker 1: part of the show where people want to. 1597 01:26:38,720 --> 01:26:41,000 Speaker 3: Know what they want to know Jim. 1598 01:26:41,120 --> 01:26:43,879 Speaker 1: They want to know some of the people and music 1599 01:26:44,000 --> 01:26:49,639 Speaker 1: that has inspired you to be who you are. 1600 01:26:51,800 --> 01:26:54,000 Speaker 2: How'd you get a stamp with your with your face 1601 01:26:54,080 --> 01:27:00,400 Speaker 2: on it? They want to know from feeling abroad way. 1602 01:27:01,520 --> 01:27:08,120 Speaker 1: I don't forget Canada, in Canada, the people that didn't. 1603 01:27:08,960 --> 01:27:26,320 Speaker 10: You Top five, your top five, Top five, your. 1604 01:27:26,240 --> 01:27:32,000 Speaker 9: Top five R and B singers, what you are and 1605 01:27:32,240 --> 01:27:38,559 Speaker 9: the songs. We've got to know me by you girl. 1606 01:27:39,080 --> 01:27:43,440 Speaker 9: We're on this shobe before we do the load her. 1607 01:27:43,320 --> 01:28:01,200 Speaker 4: Top five, Yes, top f o you five? 1608 01:28:10,320 --> 01:28:21,760 Speaker 11: Oh, sister Jills Scot is beautiful. 1609 01:28:21,800 --> 01:28:26,920 Speaker 4: Man, your choices are crazy. That's only one wonderful. 1610 01:28:27,080 --> 01:28:29,920 Speaker 6: They talked about you all over the internet. They talking, 1611 01:28:30,080 --> 01:28:33,120 Speaker 6: they say, they say you know that, damn that matters, saying, 1612 01:28:33,360 --> 01:28:36,040 Speaker 6: boy that damn dang he could sing a song and 1613 01:28:36,080 --> 01:28:39,719 Speaker 6: that is no lie, no, lie, my goodness. 1614 01:28:39,960 --> 01:28:47,040 Speaker 2: I received this your top five R and B singers. 1615 01:28:49,040 --> 01:28:52,240 Speaker 4: Well, I thought about this a lot, a lot. 1616 01:28:52,880 --> 01:28:54,640 Speaker 2: You wrote like this. 1617 01:28:55,240 --> 01:29:02,400 Speaker 4: Okay, it's different, Okay, no order, right, nope, Frankie Beverly, 1618 01:29:04,600 --> 01:29:07,639 Speaker 4: I don't know, man, I was supposed to have his baby. 1619 01:29:07,800 --> 01:29:09,920 Speaker 4: He didn't know that, but that was in my mind 1620 01:29:10,080 --> 01:29:13,000 Speaker 4: as a young person. We are one, we should have 1621 01:29:13,000 --> 01:29:21,960 Speaker 4: been one. D Angelo. Yes, yep. Absolutely, that voice, those choices, 1622 01:29:22,560 --> 01:29:24,080 Speaker 4: that sincerity, that soul. 1623 01:29:25,360 --> 01:29:26,920 Speaker 2: It's just a question. 1624 01:29:27,800 --> 01:29:28,280 Speaker 5: Mm hmmm. 1625 01:29:28,520 --> 01:29:31,519 Speaker 1: As we say neo, so as it becomes at is 1626 01:29:31,560 --> 01:29:33,120 Speaker 1: he the king of Neo? 1627 01:29:33,200 --> 01:29:37,439 Speaker 4: So I don't think there's a kay is there? 1628 01:29:37,520 --> 01:29:37,720 Speaker 2: Okay? 1629 01:29:37,800 --> 01:29:38,320 Speaker 3: I don't know. 1630 01:29:38,560 --> 01:29:42,240 Speaker 4: I don't I don't you know. They all kings to. 1631 01:29:42,240 --> 01:29:45,519 Speaker 2: Me when I heard D'Angelo. 1632 01:29:46,520 --> 01:29:52,680 Speaker 1: Life changing, absolutely life changing yep, Okay, I just you 1633 01:29:52,680 --> 01:29:57,439 Speaker 1: know you, you know you you you move worlds. So 1634 01:29:57,640 --> 01:29:59,439 Speaker 1: you want to know how you felt about that? 1635 01:30:02,560 --> 01:30:03,800 Speaker 4: Kings? Yeah, I don't know. 1636 01:30:04,920 --> 01:30:06,320 Speaker 6: I don't even know if he would want to be that. 1637 01:30:06,400 --> 01:30:09,679 Speaker 6: Like I think I've seen interviews when he talked about 1638 01:30:09,720 --> 01:30:12,120 Speaker 6: neo soul and was like that's not really where he 1639 01:30:12,760 --> 01:30:16,000 Speaker 6: wanted to necessarily be, you know, so, I mean maybe. 1640 01:30:15,880 --> 01:30:20,760 Speaker 4: To the world, yeah maybe, Yeah, it makes sense. He's 1641 01:30:22,040 --> 01:30:23,000 Speaker 4: changed things. 1642 01:30:23,720 --> 01:30:27,519 Speaker 6: He changed things and opened a door for another kind 1643 01:30:27,520 --> 01:30:29,680 Speaker 6: of music that had been shut. 1644 01:30:29,439 --> 01:30:32,479 Speaker 4: For a long time. It wasn't nobody was doing soul 1645 01:30:32,520 --> 01:30:35,040 Speaker 4: for music like that, Like it stopped. 1646 01:30:36,840 --> 01:30:43,600 Speaker 6: It got real hip hoppy if that's a phrase. Yeah, 1647 01:30:43,920 --> 01:30:44,920 Speaker 6: hip poppy. 1648 01:30:45,479 --> 01:30:49,960 Speaker 4: I didn't say hops. Yeah, so yeah, I guess so, 1649 01:30:50,200 --> 01:30:51,960 Speaker 4: I guess he would be the king he ushered. He 1650 01:30:52,040 --> 01:30:56,559 Speaker 4: opened the door and ushered so many through like. 1651 01:30:56,600 --> 01:30:58,960 Speaker 1: It was like as a church kid and musician and 1652 01:30:59,080 --> 01:31:05,000 Speaker 1: singer and song right it was like, that's that's what 1653 01:31:05,040 --> 01:31:08,240 Speaker 1: I want to be, right there, that's I want to be. 1654 01:31:08,520 --> 01:31:11,920 Speaker 1: We want to be free and musical and creative and 1655 01:31:11,920 --> 01:31:15,640 Speaker 1: and grounded like that. 1656 01:31:15,920 --> 01:31:22,200 Speaker 2: Life changing. Still nothing like it to this day. Nothing Nope. 1657 01:31:22,520 --> 01:31:26,320 Speaker 6: Even from the beginning when you listen to his first album, 1658 01:31:26,400 --> 01:31:30,799 Speaker 6: like nobody's done anything like it's not close. 1659 01:31:31,520 --> 01:31:31,800 Speaker 5: Nope. 1660 01:31:35,880 --> 01:31:36,679 Speaker 4: He had a good time. 1661 01:31:36,800 --> 01:31:41,960 Speaker 5: Huh, yes, man, Prince, hmmm. 1662 01:31:43,960 --> 01:31:45,720 Speaker 4: Nobody sings like that to me, Like. 1663 01:31:47,520 --> 01:31:50,599 Speaker 6: The list as far as R and B, Like he 1664 01:31:50,600 --> 01:31:52,840 Speaker 6: could do so many kinds of music obviously, and he 1665 01:31:52,880 --> 01:31:56,959 Speaker 6: could play so many instruments, but you know, nothing compares 1666 01:31:57,000 --> 01:32:01,479 Speaker 6: to you that level of guts put into it. 1667 01:32:02,680 --> 01:32:06,080 Speaker 4: International lover, what is that? 1668 01:32:07,880 --> 01:32:10,200 Speaker 6: He was like, I'm going to pour sex into a 1669 01:32:10,360 --> 01:32:14,479 Speaker 6: song and I'm gonna stir it gently, and he did. 1670 01:32:14,640 --> 01:32:15,479 Speaker 2: There you go a. 1671 01:32:17,080 --> 01:32:21,320 Speaker 4: Wonderful. I listened to Under the Cherry Moon for four 1672 01:32:21,439 --> 01:32:22,720 Speaker 4: years straight. 1673 01:32:22,880 --> 01:32:25,439 Speaker 6: I don't know, it's the only time I listened to 1674 01:32:25,600 --> 01:32:30,360 Speaker 6: one thing for that long four years straight. I love, love, love, 1675 01:32:30,400 --> 01:32:33,479 Speaker 6: love love that album. I know every nuance of it. 1676 01:32:33,560 --> 01:32:40,200 Speaker 6: I think it's a perfect work. Love that album Al Green, 1677 01:32:41,000 --> 01:32:43,000 Speaker 6: which I listened to all morning. 1678 01:32:43,200 --> 01:32:52,000 Speaker 1: You're a list I know what you're Yeah, yeah. 1679 01:32:50,000 --> 01:32:51,559 Speaker 4: You gotta say a thing for me. 1680 01:32:52,479 --> 01:32:55,000 Speaker 6: I love a good singer, I really do, and so 1681 01:32:55,080 --> 01:32:57,600 Speaker 6: many different kinds of great vocalists. 1682 01:32:57,600 --> 01:33:00,640 Speaker 4: But I need you. You gotta say something to me. 1683 01:33:01,360 --> 01:33:06,360 Speaker 4: Please say something soul and how you put a phrase, 1684 01:33:07,000 --> 01:33:10,800 Speaker 4: how you oh, please, please please. It's the writer and me. 1685 01:33:11,240 --> 01:33:21,360 Speaker 4: The writer requires to be titillated. And the last one. 1686 01:33:23,080 --> 01:33:24,800 Speaker 3: As w v mm hmm. 1687 01:33:26,200 --> 01:33:32,320 Speaker 4: Yep, they're on my wall. They're on my wall. That 1688 01:33:32,479 --> 01:33:36,559 Speaker 4: cassette cassette, Yeah, that cassette. 1689 01:33:36,560 --> 01:33:41,240 Speaker 6: I listened to it faithfully and and every day for 1690 01:33:41,520 --> 01:33:43,960 Speaker 6: I don't know, a couple of years at least, and 1691 01:33:44,080 --> 01:33:46,719 Speaker 6: even now when I listen to it now, I'm like, damn, 1692 01:33:46,800 --> 01:33:47,280 Speaker 6: that's good. 1693 01:33:48,200 --> 01:33:50,080 Speaker 2: So that's my favorite. 1694 01:33:50,080 --> 01:33:54,800 Speaker 6: They're so good and they're still what working, Still they're 1695 01:33:54,840 --> 01:33:55,479 Speaker 6: still working. 1696 01:33:55,760 --> 01:33:57,640 Speaker 2: That counts. 1697 01:33:57,840 --> 01:34:05,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that's my five R and. 1698 01:34:05,200 --> 01:34:09,080 Speaker 6: B artists today. Give me somebody else tomorrow because it's 1699 01:34:09,120 --> 01:34:09,840 Speaker 6: so much good stuff. 1700 01:34:10,439 --> 01:34:12,040 Speaker 4: Very grateful for that. Yeah. 1701 01:34:12,320 --> 01:34:14,920 Speaker 2: R and B Top five R and B songs. 1702 01:34:20,760 --> 01:34:25,320 Speaker 4: Fire and Desire Tina Marie Rick. 1703 01:34:25,439 --> 01:34:32,400 Speaker 5: James Rick one of the coldest, very good, very very good. 1704 01:34:32,880 --> 01:34:36,879 Speaker 6: He knows how to tap into something that's both pastor 1705 01:34:36,920 --> 01:34:38,599 Speaker 6: and pimp at the same time. 1706 01:34:38,600 --> 01:34:45,400 Speaker 7: It's dangerous, lovelyous, heavy, heavy as both of those two things. 1707 01:34:45,200 --> 01:34:48,160 Speaker 3: Are come on, very danous. 1708 01:34:50,400 --> 01:34:56,800 Speaker 4: Use your powers for good Tina Marie. Oh. 1709 01:34:56,920 --> 01:35:00,960 Speaker 6: One of the best moments of like five moments of 1710 01:35:01,000 --> 01:35:07,400 Speaker 6: my life. I was rolling around in a cabriolet in 1711 01:35:07,439 --> 01:35:11,559 Speaker 6: Paris and it was midnight. Fire and Desire came on, 1712 01:35:12,320 --> 01:35:15,680 Speaker 6: and when Tina Marie did her first big note that 1713 01:35:15,960 --> 01:35:19,240 Speaker 6: first thing she said, the Eiffel Tower lit up, and 1714 01:35:19,280 --> 01:35:19,599 Speaker 6: I was. 1715 01:35:19,560 --> 01:35:21,200 Speaker 4: Like, does this love? 1716 01:35:22,439 --> 01:35:22,639 Speaker 8: Why? 1717 01:35:27,880 --> 01:35:29,560 Speaker 2: Saying that I see it? 1718 01:35:30,840 --> 01:35:32,880 Speaker 4: It was wonderful and. 1719 01:35:35,439 --> 01:35:35,920 Speaker 2: I need that. 1720 01:35:43,720 --> 01:35:44,960 Speaker 4: Rain WV. 1721 01:35:45,439 --> 01:35:45,920 Speaker 2: Why not. 1722 01:35:47,400 --> 01:35:50,519 Speaker 4: So well written, so well executed. 1723 01:35:50,040 --> 01:35:52,080 Speaker 5: All of it as well, perfect. 1724 01:35:51,880 --> 01:35:57,559 Speaker 2: All its well a doore ye listen Jesus Christ. 1725 01:35:57,920 --> 01:35:58,799 Speaker 3: It's just incredible. 1726 01:36:01,120 --> 01:36:01,560 Speaker 2: I love it. 1727 01:36:02,400 --> 01:36:04,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm about to listen to a letter that's a 1728 01:36:04,880 --> 01:36:05,599 Speaker 3: whole revolution. 1729 01:36:06,720 --> 01:36:14,200 Speaker 4: Love me in a special way. This list is great, 1730 01:36:14,720 --> 01:36:16,920 Speaker 4: sin can you be right? 1731 01:36:17,400 --> 01:36:21,280 Speaker 2: What more can I say? What more can I say? 1732 01:36:24,120 --> 01:36:24,599 Speaker 4: That's right? 1733 01:36:24,960 --> 01:36:26,760 Speaker 2: Love me now, love me now. 1734 01:36:29,360 --> 01:36:39,160 Speaker 4: That's how you do a damn thing? Is it the way? 1735 01:36:41,160 --> 01:36:47,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're damn right. 1736 01:36:49,120 --> 01:36:55,160 Speaker 4: I think it's very well executed. I appreciate how how 1737 01:36:55,320 --> 01:36:57,559 Speaker 4: the the words worked. 1738 01:36:57,880 --> 01:36:58,439 Speaker 2: You did good. 1739 01:36:58,720 --> 01:36:59,840 Speaker 4: I think so you did. 1740 01:37:00,520 --> 01:37:06,160 Speaker 7: I think so that song you can't like, you cannot 1741 01:37:06,400 --> 01:37:09,439 Speaker 7: you know that the double negatives, but you can'tnot smile. 1742 01:37:11,280 --> 01:37:12,360 Speaker 2: You have to smile. 1743 01:37:12,960 --> 01:37:16,840 Speaker 4: I think it's because it's the woke. I think the 1744 01:37:17,080 --> 01:37:20,160 Speaker 4: woe has something to do with it. I'm not sure. 1745 01:37:21,280 --> 01:37:26,320 Speaker 3: Breakfasting all the time, that's what she did. She got 1746 01:37:26,400 --> 01:37:32,439 Speaker 3: up the breakfast yeah, simple man. What and grits and 1747 01:37:32,560 --> 01:37:36,240 Speaker 3: the way you sang grits that's why you said that. 1748 01:37:36,280 --> 01:37:37,120 Speaker 3: Though you said it was. 1749 01:37:38,840 --> 01:37:41,040 Speaker 2: Made it that song felt like a live recording. 1750 01:37:41,920 --> 01:37:44,639 Speaker 4: Hm hmmm, Drane b dal. 1751 01:37:44,840 --> 01:37:46,439 Speaker 2: It felt like you were. 1752 01:37:47,800 --> 01:37:52,360 Speaker 1: At one of your poetry houses and you were saying me, 1753 01:37:52,560 --> 01:37:53,719 Speaker 1: I got I got something special. 1754 01:37:53,760 --> 01:37:57,760 Speaker 2: I want to y'all and you sing that that's what 1755 01:37:57,960 --> 01:37:58,880 Speaker 2: it feels like. 1756 01:37:59,600 --> 01:37:59,960 Speaker 4: Mm hmm. 1757 01:38:00,600 --> 01:38:07,960 Speaker 2: That's nice and that's missing who ooh. 1758 01:38:09,880 --> 01:38:14,240 Speaker 3: It is. I think you should write for other artists too. 1759 01:38:14,640 --> 01:38:15,240 Speaker 3: I would love to. 1760 01:38:15,439 --> 01:38:19,320 Speaker 7: I think you should absolutely, because they some more Jill 1761 01:38:19,360 --> 01:38:21,520 Speaker 7: Scots songs on more artists. 1762 01:38:21,240 --> 01:38:23,960 Speaker 1: Too, because it wouldn't just come with the song. It 1763 01:38:24,000 --> 01:38:27,400 Speaker 1: would come with It would come with a healing, it 1764 01:38:27,439 --> 01:38:30,960 Speaker 1: would come with teaching, it would come with information, and 1765 01:38:31,000 --> 01:38:33,800 Speaker 1: it would come with oh my gosh, it would come 1766 01:38:33,880 --> 01:38:36,600 Speaker 1: with this level of you know what I mean, like 1767 01:38:37,160 --> 01:38:40,920 Speaker 1: they would you would learn so like yeah, just if 1768 01:38:40,920 --> 01:38:41,679 Speaker 1: you well, I would. 1769 01:38:41,520 --> 01:38:43,080 Speaker 6: Want to know what was going on in their lives. 1770 01:38:43,120 --> 01:38:45,639 Speaker 6: I would want to know what they wanted to talk about. 1771 01:38:45,680 --> 01:38:49,840 Speaker 6: I would want to know what affected them deeply. I 1772 01:38:49,880 --> 01:38:53,519 Speaker 6: would I would probably want to have meals and you know, 1773 01:38:53,680 --> 01:38:55,800 Speaker 6: I want to know so that I could write something 1774 01:38:55,880 --> 01:38:59,120 Speaker 6: because whatever I write, you're gonna be singing this for 1775 01:38:59,160 --> 01:38:59,599 Speaker 6: the rest. 1776 01:38:59,439 --> 01:39:00,000 Speaker 4: Of your life. 1777 01:39:00,080 --> 01:39:02,880 Speaker 3: By far yep. 1778 01:39:03,200 --> 01:39:05,600 Speaker 4: Forrad like is. 1779 01:39:05,600 --> 01:39:09,320 Speaker 6: It's the way it's like, you know, twenty six years later, Oh, 1780 01:39:09,439 --> 01:39:11,599 Speaker 6: my God, and people are still. 1781 01:39:11,560 --> 01:39:17,240 Speaker 4: Karaoke in that level. You better have a song, yeah, 1782 01:39:17,320 --> 01:39:19,919 Speaker 4: they better sing it and doing it so beautiful. 1783 01:39:20,240 --> 01:39:21,560 Speaker 2: I got a couple behind it. 1784 01:39:21,640 --> 01:39:22,800 Speaker 3: Go yeah, yeah, I know that's a girl. 1785 01:39:24,680 --> 01:39:27,800 Speaker 4: It's all right. Yes, I love I love hearing what 1786 01:39:27,920 --> 01:39:31,479 Speaker 4: people are doing with it. It's good. I just recently 1787 01:39:31,760 --> 01:39:34,120 Speaker 4: like added or took. 1788 01:39:35,840 --> 01:39:36,120 Speaker 3: M M. 1789 01:39:36,240 --> 01:39:38,559 Speaker 6: I don't know which one it is, but I changed 1790 01:39:38,640 --> 01:39:42,639 Speaker 6: it a little. I think that when the words are good, 1791 01:39:42,960 --> 01:39:47,240 Speaker 6: it doesn't matter what you do with the music. That 1792 01:39:47,360 --> 01:39:50,320 Speaker 6: you can change the music because the words are solid 1793 01:39:50,920 --> 01:39:54,320 Speaker 6: and you create another feeling out of some a feeling 1794 01:39:55,000 --> 01:39:55,679 Speaker 6: which is fun. 1795 01:39:55,880 --> 01:39:57,760 Speaker 4: I think it's a lot of fun. Some people that 1796 01:39:57,920 --> 01:40:00,479 Speaker 4: irks their soul, you know, like singing the way out. 1797 01:40:00,840 --> 01:40:02,400 Speaker 4: But I am, but I am. 1798 01:40:03,280 --> 01:40:05,800 Speaker 6: You know, I might not, I might not be for everybody, 1799 01:40:05,920 --> 01:40:09,559 Speaker 6: but who I'm for, I'm really, really really for yees good, 1800 01:40:09,840 --> 01:40:10,559 Speaker 6: it's good life. 1801 01:40:10,720 --> 01:40:12,800 Speaker 1: All right, Let's make a vol tron. Let's make your 1802 01:40:12,960 --> 01:40:16,160 Speaker 1: super R and B artists. Okay, but I love that 1803 01:40:16,280 --> 01:40:18,960 Speaker 1: you wrote like this is writing is great. So who 1804 01:40:19,040 --> 01:40:27,000 Speaker 1: you get the the vocal from performance style, styling, the 1805 01:40:27,160 --> 01:40:29,840 Speaker 1: passion of the artists, and who's going to write for 1806 01:40:29,960 --> 01:40:30,519 Speaker 1: this artist. 1807 01:40:30,600 --> 01:40:32,360 Speaker 2: Yea, I mention didn't see that one coming. All right, 1808 01:40:32,360 --> 01:40:32,640 Speaker 2: here we go. 1809 01:40:32,760 --> 01:40:34,760 Speaker 4: I didn't get that. I don't think that. 1810 01:40:34,800 --> 01:40:35,400 Speaker 2: Made that up for you. 1811 01:40:35,640 --> 01:40:36,000 Speaker 3: Here we go. 1812 01:40:36,360 --> 01:40:39,720 Speaker 1: I wrote the vocal no, no, let's start. I'm gonna 1813 01:40:39,760 --> 01:40:43,240 Speaker 1: lead you. So the vocal where you're going to get 1814 01:40:43,280 --> 01:40:45,080 Speaker 1: the one vocal from for this artist? 1815 01:40:45,360 --> 01:40:48,040 Speaker 4: This is this is not what I said. I said, 1816 01:40:48,240 --> 01:40:54,560 Speaker 4: feel like Aretha Okay, Holla like Shaka. 1817 01:40:55,200 --> 01:41:03,600 Speaker 2: Okay, what else you want care huh huh, scary. 1818 01:41:05,520 --> 01:41:07,080 Speaker 3: Like breathing hollow like Shaka. 1819 01:41:08,880 --> 01:41:11,559 Speaker 4: Okay, So so float like Sarah. 1820 01:41:11,920 --> 01:41:13,599 Speaker 3: Oh she's not done. 1821 01:41:13,720 --> 01:41:15,679 Speaker 4: You said, vult go ahead. 1822 01:41:16,120 --> 01:41:18,920 Speaker 2: So you're making a voltron within the vocal. 1823 01:41:19,920 --> 01:41:25,679 Speaker 6: Yeah, everything right, So feel like a wreatha hollow like Shaka, 1824 01:41:26,200 --> 01:41:33,960 Speaker 6: float like Sarah, run like Jasmine Christ. 1825 01:41:34,520 --> 01:41:37,360 Speaker 1: You said a vultul Jesus Christ. It's not the this, 1826 01:41:37,560 --> 01:41:39,920 Speaker 1: This is not the way vultroan goes. You are doing 1827 01:41:40,000 --> 01:41:42,479 Speaker 1: something new and unique like you always do. 1828 01:41:42,680 --> 01:41:49,040 Speaker 4: Keep going okay right like Smoky. 1829 01:41:50,640 --> 01:41:53,400 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah. 1830 01:41:54,920 --> 01:41:56,760 Speaker 3: They gotta be a hip threst of eighty five like 1831 01:41:56,880 --> 01:41:58,720 Speaker 3: him too, though I. 1832 01:41:58,680 --> 01:42:00,519 Speaker 2: Don't think he can. I don't think he with his hip. 1833 01:42:00,840 --> 01:42:02,720 Speaker 2: I think he was just stuck in his back no, no, 1834 01:42:02,880 --> 01:42:03,240 Speaker 2: he's not. 1835 01:42:03,560 --> 01:42:05,840 Speaker 3: I just went to go see. He was like, I 1836 01:42:05,880 --> 01:42:07,880 Speaker 3: will not let you do this. He've been doing yoga 1837 01:42:07,960 --> 01:42:08,720 Speaker 3: for fifty years. 1838 01:42:12,240 --> 01:42:16,360 Speaker 2: It wasn't his hip. He did get blue eyes. I'm 1839 01:42:16,439 --> 01:42:17,800 Speaker 2: upset about that. It was his back. 1840 01:42:19,439 --> 01:42:22,559 Speaker 4: Go ahead, he's still here, he's still doing it right, 1841 01:42:22,640 --> 01:42:27,439 Speaker 4: like he's still right, like smoky, physical fluidity like Chris 1842 01:42:27,520 --> 01:42:36,559 Speaker 4: Brown mmmmmm, musicianship of Stevie Wonder and presence like James Brown. 1843 01:42:42,640 --> 01:42:45,599 Speaker 3: That's what they say. Let her cook, Let her cook. 1844 01:42:47,080 --> 01:42:49,160 Speaker 6: And then as far as the aesthetic, I don't know. 1845 01:42:50,000 --> 01:42:54,120 Speaker 6: I don't know what all that means. I don't know 1846 01:42:54,160 --> 01:42:56,000 Speaker 6: what all that means. Was that what was that supposed 1847 01:42:56,000 --> 01:42:58,240 Speaker 6: to look like? I didn't know Biggie was gonna look 1848 01:42:58,280 --> 01:43:01,519 Speaker 6: like Biggie. I did know Craig Mac was gonna look 1849 01:43:01,560 --> 01:43:04,920 Speaker 6: like Craig Mac. I didn't know that Prince was gonna 1850 01:43:04,920 --> 01:43:09,519 Speaker 6: look like Prince. You know, it's just you got to 1851 01:43:09,560 --> 01:43:12,880 Speaker 6: mix all that stuff together and whatever that makes. I 1852 01:43:12,880 --> 01:43:15,040 Speaker 6: would just want it to be authentic to all of 1853 01:43:15,120 --> 01:43:15,719 Speaker 6: those things. 1854 01:43:15,840 --> 01:43:17,280 Speaker 4: That's it. Just sincere. 1855 01:43:18,080 --> 01:43:21,479 Speaker 6: Whatever that looks like, Sincere, that's what it looks like. Yeah, 1856 01:43:21,880 --> 01:43:28,679 Speaker 6: with all of those skills and abilities, vult We got. 1857 01:43:28,640 --> 01:43:29,920 Speaker 2: A new way to do a vultront. 1858 01:43:30,000 --> 01:43:35,360 Speaker 1: I'm not sure if you can Tampa with her styleis voltron. 1859 01:43:35,560 --> 01:43:39,360 Speaker 2: Don't try to come here trying to vot. You're not 1860 01:43:39,479 --> 01:43:39,880 Speaker 2: like Jail. 1861 01:43:40,400 --> 01:43:41,519 Speaker 3: You're not like Jill. 1862 01:43:41,640 --> 01:43:47,320 Speaker 2: Because you got I ain't saying no name, ain't saying. 1863 01:43:53,960 --> 01:43:54,720 Speaker 4: What you did. 1864 01:43:55,439 --> 01:43:56,160 Speaker 2: Don't say she. 1865 01:44:00,080 --> 01:44:01,040 Speaker 4: Say no name. 1866 01:44:07,880 --> 01:44:10,760 Speaker 7: So we're here, we've we've gotten here. Were to a 1867 01:44:11,000 --> 01:44:13,880 Speaker 7: very very important part of the show. Well, you tell 1868 01:44:13,960 --> 01:44:19,240 Speaker 7: us a story, funny or fucked up? Funny and fucked up. 1869 01:44:20,680 --> 01:44:24,040 Speaker 3: The only rule to the game. You can't say no name. 1870 01:44:26,360 --> 01:44:27,320 Speaker 2: Any right? Any right? One? 1871 01:44:27,520 --> 01:44:30,920 Speaker 4: WHOA I didn't write it. I didn't write it. I 1872 01:44:31,000 --> 01:44:31,560 Speaker 4: didn't write it. 1873 01:44:33,200 --> 01:44:36,280 Speaker 2: Yep that one, Yep, you can do it. You can 1874 01:44:36,360 --> 01:44:36,560 Speaker 2: do it. 1875 01:44:41,040 --> 01:44:41,400 Speaker 7: Is that one. 1876 01:44:41,479 --> 01:44:43,559 Speaker 4: I don't want to say that one. I can't say 1877 01:44:43,640 --> 01:44:47,679 Speaker 4: that one. I don't know if I should say that one. 1878 01:44:49,280 --> 01:44:51,200 Speaker 2: I like, I like that whatever that one is. 1879 01:44:52,120 --> 01:44:58,160 Speaker 6: Ooh, it's a lot of them. Yeah, nervous any names. 1880 01:44:58,160 --> 01:44:59,599 Speaker 6: Don't say a name. Don't say a name. 1881 01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:05,840 Speaker 4: Okay, it's not funny if I don't say the name. Okay, so. 1882 01:45:08,439 --> 01:45:10,200 Speaker 3: Maybe characteristics. 1883 01:45:11,560 --> 01:45:12,120 Speaker 4: That's too much. 1884 01:45:12,840 --> 01:45:17,719 Speaker 6: It's too It's like obvious, who these people are don't 1885 01:45:17,880 --> 01:45:22,880 Speaker 6: say names. I am literally stuck on a on a 1886 01:45:22,960 --> 01:45:24,559 Speaker 6: story to tell. What story should I tell? 1887 01:45:24,640 --> 01:45:24,680 Speaker 1: You? 1888 01:45:24,920 --> 01:45:26,840 Speaker 7: Gotta tell that story. That's the one that's in your 1889 01:45:26,880 --> 01:45:29,200 Speaker 7: mind right now. That's the one I'm telling you. 1890 01:45:29,720 --> 01:45:30,000 Speaker 2: I don't know. 1891 01:45:30,520 --> 01:45:30,760 Speaker 4: Okay. 1892 01:45:30,960 --> 01:45:34,120 Speaker 6: So I'm on a at award show. This is the 1893 01:45:34,160 --> 01:45:36,639 Speaker 6: one that pops up. I'm at an award show. I'm 1894 01:45:36,680 --> 01:45:39,200 Speaker 6: on the red carpet and I see one of my 1895 01:45:39,360 --> 01:45:46,200 Speaker 6: heroes and I run over to her. Oh shit, this 1896 01:45:46,320 --> 01:45:50,880 Speaker 6: is a moment. And I say, too fast, Oh my god, 1897 01:45:51,320 --> 01:45:54,160 Speaker 6: I love you so much. I listen to you all 1898 01:45:54,200 --> 01:45:56,800 Speaker 6: the time. You you you inspire me so much. 1899 01:45:57,200 --> 01:46:01,760 Speaker 4: You are based and and and she kind of just 1900 01:46:01,800 --> 01:46:05,280 Speaker 4: looked at me, and I was like, oh, okay, I 1901 01:46:05,400 --> 01:46:07,840 Speaker 4: might have I might have did too much, you know, Okay, 1902 01:46:08,120 --> 01:46:11,400 Speaker 4: all right, stop personally walk away, Jill. You know, because 1903 01:46:11,400 --> 01:46:14,880 Speaker 4: there's the one that talks to me. Listen, it works 1904 01:46:14,920 --> 01:46:15,080 Speaker 4: for me. 1905 01:46:15,640 --> 01:46:18,040 Speaker 6: Walk away, Jill, I said, Okay, I walked away, but 1906 01:46:18,120 --> 01:46:19,920 Speaker 6: I said what I want to say, and I feel 1907 01:46:19,920 --> 01:46:24,040 Speaker 6: good about saying what I said. So I'm further along 1908 01:46:24,960 --> 01:46:28,439 Speaker 6: and the person, the younger person, I guess this is 1909 01:46:28,520 --> 01:46:32,360 Speaker 6: maybe her assistant, runs over to me with her face off, 1910 01:46:32,400 --> 01:46:33,000 Speaker 6: scornched up. 1911 01:46:33,400 --> 01:46:37,200 Speaker 4: I said, what's wrong with Jie? She said, you really 1912 01:46:37,320 --> 01:46:42,320 Speaker 4: offended her? I said I did. She was like, yes, 1913 01:46:42,439 --> 01:46:45,120 Speaker 4: you did. I can't believe you would do something like that. 1914 01:46:45,200 --> 01:46:46,160 Speaker 2: And I was like, I don't. 1915 01:46:46,240 --> 01:46:49,000 Speaker 4: I'm so sorry. What did I do? She said, you 1916 01:46:49,080 --> 01:46:52,000 Speaker 4: need to go talk to her right now. So with 1917 01:46:52,120 --> 01:46:55,439 Speaker 4: all of this, so I go and I'm like, you know, 1918 01:46:55,560 --> 01:47:02,240 Speaker 4: waiting because people are surrounding this wonderful, wonderful artist, and 1919 01:47:02,400 --> 01:47:07,800 Speaker 4: I say, hey, what did I say? She said you 1920 01:47:08,000 --> 01:47:09,080 Speaker 4: called me obest? 1921 01:47:10,800 --> 01:47:15,840 Speaker 3: Oh? Oh h? 1922 01:47:17,960 --> 01:47:20,599 Speaker 4: What the hell? I look like calling somebody your beast? 1923 01:47:24,280 --> 01:47:29,880 Speaker 6: Mad human eyes burning, wanting to fight me, Like, who 1924 01:47:29,920 --> 01:47:31,600 Speaker 6: do you think you are to call me out of 1925 01:47:31,640 --> 01:47:32,080 Speaker 6: my name? 1926 01:47:32,200 --> 01:47:34,519 Speaker 4: Who are you to tell me I'm a beast? And 1927 01:47:34,880 --> 01:47:37,799 Speaker 4: I'm like, I didn't, I said a beast? 1928 01:47:39,880 --> 01:47:45,320 Speaker 7: A you had a y M moment because she didn't 1929 01:47:45,360 --> 01:47:49,200 Speaker 7: understand the Wayian language you was kicking taking somewhere else. 1930 01:47:50,680 --> 01:47:53,479 Speaker 2: You don't even fit with the context of everything you 1931 01:47:53,560 --> 01:47:56,280 Speaker 2: were saying at all, because you. 1932 01:47:57,920 --> 01:48:00,360 Speaker 6: Want to hear that's where you heard what you wanted. H. 1933 01:48:00,640 --> 01:48:03,679 Speaker 6: But I promise, I really I don't have something necessary 1934 01:48:03,720 --> 01:48:04,559 Speaker 6: ain't gonna say ship. 1935 01:48:04,400 --> 01:48:05,519 Speaker 4: I'mna keep my mouth closed. 1936 01:48:08,560 --> 01:48:09,840 Speaker 2: So did y'all did y'all make up? 1937 01:48:10,960 --> 01:48:14,920 Speaker 4: Can I tell you the name? I can't tell your name? 1938 01:48:15,360 --> 01:48:18,840 Speaker 4: Damn it? I hate this work. Did we make up? 1939 01:48:19,439 --> 01:48:24,960 Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean ish ish ish She's still head all that. 1940 01:48:27,520 --> 01:48:30,640 Speaker 2: I tried to hide it when she came back anything, 1941 01:48:30,960 --> 01:48:34,920 Speaker 2: because who calls anybody a beast? That's probably worse O best. 1942 01:48:35,400 --> 01:48:38,439 Speaker 4: I would never Does that sound like me? No, No 1943 01:48:39,160 --> 01:48:43,280 Speaker 4: at all at all. I'm gonna go out of my way. Yeah, 1944 01:48:43,880 --> 01:48:47,000 Speaker 4: but well that's the business sometimes. 1945 01:48:47,400 --> 01:48:53,920 Speaker 1: Chiley from Philly. You are You are magnificent, You are awesome, 1946 01:48:54,840 --> 01:48:59,200 Speaker 1: you are you are beautiful. You are a superstar. You 1947 01:48:59,320 --> 01:49:06,080 Speaker 1: are multi faceted, multi talented, multi cool, and we are 1948 01:49:06,200 --> 01:49:09,920 Speaker 1: better because you are here and we can't wait to 1949 01:49:10,080 --> 01:49:11,280 Speaker 1: experience more of you. 1950 01:49:11,600 --> 01:49:13,080 Speaker 2: There are more things to come. 1951 01:49:14,120 --> 01:49:17,679 Speaker 1: We can't give titles and dates, but things are happening 1952 01:49:18,360 --> 01:49:22,320 Speaker 1: in the works more acting, yes, and the works and 1953 01:49:22,439 --> 01:49:25,640 Speaker 1: not given titles and dates. What you need to do 1954 01:49:25,760 --> 01:49:29,360 Speaker 1: is stay up and stay close to the woman, follow 1955 01:49:29,439 --> 01:49:32,760 Speaker 1: her so you'll know what's going on. 1956 01:49:33,920 --> 01:49:35,400 Speaker 2: We have been honored. 1957 01:49:36,840 --> 01:49:37,479 Speaker 4: This was great. 1958 01:49:37,560 --> 01:49:38,439 Speaker 2: Honored you. 1959 01:49:38,680 --> 01:49:41,879 Speaker 6: Thank you so much for having me, Thank you for listening, 1960 01:49:42,479 --> 01:49:45,519 Speaker 6: and thank you for supporting R and B music, because 1961 01:49:45,520 --> 01:49:48,040 Speaker 6: you know what I did. I played more R and 1962 01:49:48,200 --> 01:49:50,639 Speaker 6: B since I realized, you know, I was coming here, 1963 01:49:51,280 --> 01:49:55,160 Speaker 6: and I went down this long rabbit hole of why 1964 01:49:55,680 --> 01:49:58,479 Speaker 6: you begin to sing in the first place, For what 1965 01:49:59,000 --> 01:49:59,599 Speaker 6: was the purpose? 1966 01:50:00,240 --> 01:50:04,920 Speaker 4: All that good writing, all that quality sincere. I know 1967 01:50:04,960 --> 01:50:07,639 Speaker 4: I use that word a lot, but it matters. It maritives, 1968 01:50:08,320 --> 01:50:12,680 Speaker 4: the depth of those vocals, the love that was just 1969 01:50:12,800 --> 01:50:16,720 Speaker 4: poured all over in the musicianship. Thank you for keeping 1970 01:50:16,880 --> 01:50:17,719 Speaker 4: R and B alive. 1971 01:50:18,680 --> 01:50:21,120 Speaker 7: So we got something for you too, because we heard, 1972 01:50:21,840 --> 01:50:23,800 Speaker 7: you know, listen the streets told us you like, so 1973 01:50:23,960 --> 01:50:24,240 Speaker 7: we're just. 1974 01:50:26,160 --> 01:50:27,120 Speaker 2: I'm gonna keep it in the bank. 1975 01:50:28,439 --> 01:50:45,800 Speaker 4: That's how I like it. Yeah, yeah, you know, nice. 1976 01:50:45,800 --> 01:50:49,160 Speaker 2: Little taste, little taste for ladies and gentlemen. 1977 01:50:49,200 --> 01:50:52,760 Speaker 1: Money is tag and this is the r Andy Money Podcast, 1978 01:50:52,880 --> 01:50:57,800 Speaker 1: the authority on all things r Rent. 1979 01:50:57,720 --> 01:50:59,960 Speaker 2: Big Jelly from Philip Ladies. 1980 01:50:59,800 --> 01:51:06,559 Speaker 4: And James Scup. Thank you, Thank you so much,