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Speaker 1: Ron an Aian. What takes the manufacturer so long to

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Speaker 1: know what's not working? It's about dollars, folks. It's about

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Speaker 2: About a week ago, my wife went out to use

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Speaker 1: Thousand and nine Dodges. There is a known problem with

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Speaker 1: the WCM, the wireless control module, which is part and

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the radio home of Ron Ananian, The Car Doctor.

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Speaker 2: Since nineteen ninety one. This is where car owners the

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Speaker 2: world overturned to for their definitive opinion on automotive repair.

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Speaker 2: If your mechanics giving you a busy signal, pick up the.

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Speaker 1: Phone and call. The garage doors are open, but I

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Speaker 2: Nah hee running Hey, I.

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Speaker 1: Really wanted to open up this week's episode of The

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Speaker 1: Car Doctor. By the way, Hello and welcome. I'm Ron

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Speaker 1: and Ai and the Car Doctor, and talk to you

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Speaker 1: real quick about zen and communicating and driving the car.

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Speaker 1: And I know we've got calls backed up, and the

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Speaker 1: You know, i'd go to the cafe, the little deli

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Speaker 1: And I sat down next to Drew. And I've seen

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Speaker 1: But he talked about how we don't communicate anymore as

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Speaker 1: a ride where you're going, We're going to Chucha. Stand

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Speaker 1: Maybe America needs to rediscover, you know, taking that ride

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Speaker 1: be one with it. Hello and welcome ronin eighty in

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Speaker 1: ed bathmine ninety eight Chevy Cheyenne van or truck I'm

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Card Doctor, sir. How can I help?

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Speaker 4: Well, Ron, it's great to be back with you again.

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Speaker 4: You fixed my truck a long time ago and taught

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Speaker 4: me what the term never ever worked new new means.

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Speaker 4: We might be back there again in some some way,

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Speaker 4: but anyway, here here goes. I got this ninety eight

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, this is a spider web deal. So fuel

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Speaker 1: I believe it does, no, sirs, please, I work for

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Speaker 1: believe this car has a mass airflow sensor. Any scan

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I do. I borrowed a scan tool.

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Speaker 1: I've got no codes run okay, but does that scan

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Speaker 1: Okay? How cold is it there in main right now?

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Speaker 1: looking at cooling temperature, if the truck doesn't start turn

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Speaker 1: It's like a miracle of your relatives getting along at

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Speaker 1: you know, if the truck says it's minus two two

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Speaker 1: and it's really twenty four degrees, somebody's not getting along

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Speaker 1: all right. In your case, the Patriots game is on

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Speaker 1: It makes sense? Is it logical? Some cars can can

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Speaker 1: while you're cranking it maintains fifty five psi? Or does

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Speaker 4: It may painted fifty five while cranking or I'm sorry,

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Speaker 4: cycling the key.

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Speaker 1: Okay, if you crank it. If you crank it, does

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Speaker 4: I believe it did, but I'm not sure that was

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Speaker 4: what the other pump to run. Again, I get that

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Speaker 1: Right, So you haven't tested the new Delfi pump.

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Speaker 4: I have not known.

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Speaker 1: Okay, you know what new means?

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Speaker 1: And and while you're testing and while you're testing that

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Speaker 1: buy a Snapple and don't drink it, because that's stuff,

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Speaker 1: you know, it's it's we're not here about selling you snapple.

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Speaker 1: But take that Snapple bottle once you empty it, and

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Speaker 4: Okay, all right.

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Speaker 1: The car doctor's on a health health kick the last

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Speaker 1: couple of years. That's what snapple bottles are good for.

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Speaker 1: The Snapple bottle works good. It's glass. You can wash

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Speaker 1: Volumes good? Fuel samples good. Now we go to pressure

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Speaker 1: If pressure goes up and the truck starts, you don't

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I see.

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Speaker 1: All right, sir, let me go. If you have any questions,

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Speaker 1: Ron atcardoctorshow dot com, I'll do what I can for you.

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Speaker 1: All right, You take good caram on on any of

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Speaker 1: the car doctor. We're back right after this. Welcome back.

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Speaker 1: What do they mean the card doctor. Let's get over

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Speaker 1: and talk to Paul Huntington, New York. Paul, welcome to

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Speaker 1: the card doctor. How can it help her?

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Speaker 5: Hi? Ron, thanks for taking my call.

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Speaker 1: You're welcome.

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Speaker 5: Have a two thousand and one S ten Chevy pick

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Speaker 5: up with the two point two engine have the p

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Speaker 5: P zero four to ten sure air pump fault? Ye

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Speaker 5: the coil side of the relay the air relay, okay,

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Speaker 5: and on the on the ground side is twelve volts,

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Speaker 5: which tells me the computer is not grounding.

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Speaker 1: Correct a relay.

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Speaker 5: Is there a sensor that tells the computer to turn

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Speaker 1: Now, it's just a function of the computer. In the logic,

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Speaker 1: it's a straight run.

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Speaker 5: So you're an action. Is there a relay in that

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Speaker 1: Nope, it's if that's not so. But let me ask

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Speaker 5: I have an OTC scan till I don't know if

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Speaker 5: I can do that with it?

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Speaker 1: Which what? What? Which OTC tool?

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Speaker 5: No that I could tell you. I have it. It's

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Speaker 1: The car, big, small little thing.

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Speaker 5: It's maybe ten inches by it's kind of an oval

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Speaker 5: The screen is maybe two inches square?

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Speaker 1: one of the entry level models. You could look. But

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Speaker 5: To manually just round that terminal. I's see it. But

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Speaker 5: I took the pump apart from when I store on

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Speaker 5: the internet they say those pumps get water in them

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Speaker 5: and seize up. But correct, what's brand new? It looks

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Speaker 1: Water correct now? You know there is a bulletin for

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Speaker 5: But it's like brand new. It looks like.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so well, maybe have you own have you owned

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Speaker 1: all right, so it's you know what the history is.

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Speaker 1: But you might want to take a look at that

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Speaker 1: week's going to bring. Once you fix this thing, I

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Speaker 1: The relay, there's a pink, which is you know, engine

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Speaker 1: there's a brown, which is the ground by the PCM.

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Speaker 1: Now you know, the other thing that you've got to

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Speaker 5: Okay, I will try that. I was afraid I may

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Speaker 1: Going to be well. Well, find a section of the

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Speaker 1: There's chances are as than one brown wire in this vehicle.

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Speaker 1: But if I want to do something like this and

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Speaker 1: I don't have a lot of tools to choose from, listen,

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Speaker 1: I have no problem cutting a wire and grounding it

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Speaker 1: and then when I'm done, solder it back together and

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Speaker 1: he'd shrink it. You know, we used to do that

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Speaker 1: We couldn't afford tools. So if you ground that brown wire,

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Speaker 1: the relay has to close, and or it should close

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Speaker 5: Okay, all right, sir, Now I had to be very

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Speaker 5: take to reset those monitors on the on the computer to.

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Speaker 1: Get to get monitors to run, to get.

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Speaker 5: Them to reset and show them as you know already

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Speaker 1: certain temperatures. The gas tank has to be between three

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Speaker 1: the EVAP monitor run. So it sounds like you're trying

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Speaker 1: welcome to the car Doctor. How can I help? Hi?

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Speaker 3: Doctors? I love the show. I was my speedometer was

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Speaker 3: acting funny. I took it in for a diagnosis. What

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Speaker 3: it was doing is it wouldn't register at all for

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Speaker 1: Right, And I think we talked about did it have

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Speaker 1: a stripped speedo gear? Something was wrong with the speedog

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Speaker 3: Yes, they determined that the drive gear is stripped. But

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Speaker 3: I was wondering, is it necessary when replacing that drive

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Speaker 3: want to drain the transmission to replace When was.

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Speaker 1: The last time the fluid was service?

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Speaker 3: Frank, Oh, gosh, probably forty miles.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's time, not on basis of the speedo gear,

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Speaker 1: because what's in there is such it's plastic, and it's

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Speaker 1: so small, it's particulate. I mean, it's not great for

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Speaker 1: the filter, you know, if the trans had ten thousand

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Speaker 1: wouldn't want into a little bit bits and pieces of

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Speaker 1: plastic floating around inside the transmission. That doesn't make any sense.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, let them service the trans change the filter,

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Speaker 1: and then at least this way you're helping to ensure

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Speaker 1: the life of it. I'm run any in the guard doctor.

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Speaker 1: We're back right after this.

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Speaker 3: No