Speaker 1: Hello everyone, and welcome to another episode of Inside the
Speaker 1: Studio on iHeart Radio. My name is Jordan Runtog, but
Speaker 1: enough about me. My guest today has had a very
Speaker 1: busy life in Lockdown. He's tied the knot with Ease
Speaker 1: Daily Pop co host Morgan Stewart, and this summer became
Speaker 1: a first time parents a daughter, Row And somehow he's
Speaker 1: still found time to drop two stellar singles, most recently
Speaker 1: the synth Tings throwback She and also a few months earlier, Her,
Speaker 1: which is a collaboration with the Jonas Brothers. He's heading
Speaker 1: out on the road with them for a series of
Speaker 1: dates through the fall. How does he do it all? Well,
Speaker 1: there's talent, good work, ethic, and maybe a word of
Speaker 1: advice from his father, who you may know as Dr Phil.
Speaker 1: I'm so happy to welcome my guest today, Jordan McGraw.
Speaker 1: This is going to be so confusing. First time this
Speaker 1: has happened on this show. I talked to myself all
Speaker 1: the time. Same here. Well, while we're on the topic
Speaker 1: of similar names, you have two new songs. Your new
Speaker 1: song is called your latest song, rather, it's called She,
Speaker 1: and your last single before that is Her. Everybody get
Speaker 1: that straight. Both songs are excellent. Let's start with She,
Speaker 1: which is about something that I'm guilty of. When you
Speaker 1: have a dream where you're mad at someone and you
Speaker 1: wake up and you're still kind of a rationally mad
Speaker 1: at them, and it throws your whole day. Tell me
Speaker 1: about where where did the song come from? For you?
Speaker 1: I think we're all guilty of it. First of all,
Speaker 1: it's like you can't control it and you just wake
Speaker 1: up glaring at somebody. Okay, uh no, it's oddly enough,
Speaker 1: it is a true story. My now wife and I
Speaker 1: were quarantining together right right when it was you know,
Speaker 1: at its time where we had to stay inside, which
Speaker 1: was probably the worst setting for this to actually happen in,
Speaker 1: and she just woke up pissed and I was like
Speaker 1: what what? And uh she was like just nothing, you
Speaker 1: really did. It's just, you know, I don't want to
Speaker 1: talk about it. I was like, I think she's still
Speaker 1: mad at me. Were months pasted it, and I think
Speaker 1: she's still mad about it. I can't get ahold of
Speaker 1: dream me. So you know, what do with the dream?
Speaker 1: Did she tell you? I have? I have no idea,
Speaker 1: I don't know, but it was bad, so if I
Speaker 1: ever get ahold of dream Jordan, I'm like kick his ask, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you gotta exchange some words. The an upshot of this
Speaker 1: is not only a great song, but an incredible video
Speaker 1: where he went to What's for me a sacred place.
Speaker 1: You went to the set of the Wheel of Fortune.
Speaker 1: I mean, I assume that was the real said, I
Speaker 1: feel like, you can't you can't fake that. It was
Speaker 1: the real set that was. That was like kind of
Speaker 1: one of my one of my things. I was like,
Speaker 1: if we're gonna do it, we're gotta do it for real.
Speaker 1: If we're gonna fake it, like I will know too
Speaker 1: many of the details to know it's fake, right, you know,
Speaker 1: because I grew up watching I watched two shows growing
Speaker 1: up all the time. Is that in the Simpsons. So
Speaker 1: I was just like I was starstruck walking in you know.
Speaker 1: It's just like it's everything you hope it would be.
Speaker 1: The wheel is smaller but twice as heavy as you
Speaker 1: think it is. Ah yeah, you see them like kind
Speaker 1: of grunt when they go to spin it. That's real. Okay,
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I don't know what. I don't know what
Speaker 1: makes it so heavy, but yeah, oh man, Morgan got
Speaker 1: to be Vanna White, which I'm told is harder than
Speaker 1: it seems, way harder. She had you gotta like really,
Speaker 1: you know, it's a screen now, so you would think
Speaker 1: it would be easier to hit the screen, but it's
Speaker 1: you gotta like really get in there. It's such a
Speaker 1: great video and you you play multiple characters. You're like
Speaker 1: Eddie Murphy in there. You're your pat say Jack, and
Speaker 1: you're the three contestants. I love the characters. I mean,
Speaker 1: the cowboy guy kind of reminds me of Burt Reynolds
Speaker 1: on the S Live Celebrity Jeopardy. That was our exact reference.
Speaker 1: You nailed it. Yeah, Oh my god, tell me tell
Speaker 1: me about all those uh those folks. I love doing
Speaker 1: impressions and playing characters and stuff. So when we were
Speaker 1: picking the characters though, I was like, Okay, they each
Speaker 1: have to be like a little part of me or
Speaker 1: somebody that I know so that I can like really
Speaker 1: deliver the one liners and the stupid jokes. So I
Speaker 1: grew up in Texas. That's the cowboy you know. All
Speaker 1: of my all of my my family has, you know,
Speaker 1: those weird sayings, the terrible mustaches and never take their
Speaker 1: cowboy hats. Off the nerd. I am like secretly a
Speaker 1: total nerd that that that's like me on the inside.
Speaker 1: Clarence and then the emo kid not apologetically went through
Speaker 1: quite the quite the emo phase. Oh yeah, taken back
Speaker 1: Sunday Saves the Day. That was my that was my
Speaker 1: my youth. Yeah, totally totally. I had I had a
Speaker 1: black pink and black mohawk. I had the leopard spots
Speaker 1: in my hair for a little bit. I bleached it.
Speaker 1: I bleached out black hair dye to put more different.
Speaker 1: It was just like my hair was just like you
Speaker 1: could break it. Path. Yeah, No, I missed the I
Speaker 1: missed the the eyeshadow and skinny jeans days. I have
Speaker 1: to say I still try to get them as skinny
Speaker 1: as they'll go, but I'm not as flexible as I
Speaker 1: once was. Well, it is an incredible video. Tell me
Speaker 1: about the track Her, which I know was a collaboration
Speaker 1: between you and your buddies and the and the Jonas brothers.
Speaker 1: How did that song come together? Yeah, kind of right
Speaker 1: when I was getting off of the Happiness Begins tour.
Speaker 1: I was kind of talking to them about where I
Speaker 1: wanted to sound to kind of head and I, you know,
Speaker 1: I started giving some details of like, you know, a
Speaker 1: little bit, I want the pop punk me to be
Speaker 1: involved in there. I want, you know, kind of my
Speaker 1: love of eighties music to be in there, and um,
Speaker 1: you know, I kind started describing it and Nick was like,
Speaker 1: I think, I think I have a song that you
Speaker 1: might want to use, and Joe was like, oh, yes, absolutely,
Speaker 1: and so they played me to chorus and I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: that that's that's that's pretty much it. And uh, they
Speaker 1: let me do my thing to it and then put
Speaker 1: my spin on it and make it my own and
Speaker 1: then you know, there it is. So you go way
Speaker 1: back with the Jonah Spars. I mean, you said you
Speaker 1: opened for the tour in en Happiness begins tour, and
Speaker 1: you're you're on the road with them, I think now
Speaker 1: on a new tour, which we'll talk about in a minute.
Speaker 1: How did you first connect with them? Are our real
Speaker 1: friendship started over a love of baseball. I the first
Speaker 1: time I met Nick was actually at a Dodgery game,
Speaker 1: and uh, we had some mutual friends, so I he
Speaker 1: and I are probably the two shyest people in the world,
Speaker 1: so we just I walked up to him and I
Speaker 1: was like, hey, I know so, and so he's like, oh, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, but then you know, to Tequilas
Speaker 1: later and we're best friends already. So yeah, I met
Speaker 1: I met him that way and Joe Joe and I
Speaker 1: kind of met not long after that, and he wound
Speaker 1: up directing a video for me, and uh, you know.
Speaker 1: After after that, the rest is history. And now I
Speaker 1: get to go on the biggest tours in the world,
Speaker 1: which you know is definitely a perk of the friendship. Well,
Speaker 1: here's the question for you, who's most likely to win
Speaker 1: at Fortnite? Joe and I play every day, so I
Speaker 1: can tell you with a hud certainty that Joe will
Speaker 1: win at Fortnite over all of us beat Okay, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I barely make it every day, even on the road,
Speaker 1: or especially on the road, I guess maybe ask yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, if we have WiFi on the road, we
Speaker 1: will we find a way to get in there and
Speaker 1: do it. You just kicked off what I think like
Speaker 1: a couple of days ago, your first in something like
Speaker 1: sixty dates with them. How is it getting back on
Speaker 1: the road so far? It was crazy. I was so
Speaker 1: excited going into it because playing live is my absolute
Speaker 1: favorite part of anything music. But I underestimated how good
Speaker 1: it would feel to walk on the stage in front
Speaker 1: of a bunch of people. I I stepped foot onto
Speaker 1: that stage and immediately was ear to ear, grinning, like
Speaker 1: it's just the excite. I did realize how much I
Speaker 1: missed that excitement. It's so I'm so excited to just
Speaker 1: keep going. We have a day off today and I'm like, no, well,
Speaker 1: lot's changed since you you went on the road last.
Speaker 1: You become a husband and a father. How is that
Speaker 1: factored into going on the road. Is it tough to
Speaker 1: kind of balance the being a gig musician with being
Speaker 1: a family man. Yeah, I mean it's it's it's not
Speaker 1: a tough challenge. It's just a different challenge. My wife
Speaker 1: is awesome, and so she's so supportive about it. And
Speaker 1: you know, I'm gonna come home as much as possible
Speaker 1: on the West coast just so I can see Row
Speaker 1: my daughter, and then you know, once we get to
Speaker 1: the middle of the country, they'll come visit a little bit,
Speaker 1: and then once we're on the East coast will come
Speaker 1: out there and I'll be able to kind of come
Speaker 1: back and forth to New York. So we're we're figuring
Speaker 1: out a way to make it the easiest adventure possible,
Speaker 1: but it's definitely an adventure. Nonetheless, Rose, gotta see your dad,
Speaker 1: do was think at those big headphones on? Yeah? I
Speaker 1: want to see her little peanut head with those giant headphones.
Speaker 1: She's so adorable. Congratulations. Has become a dad changed your
Speaker 1: your approach to music at all? Totally? I think I'm
Speaker 1: just I'm just I'm so happy. You know, as cheesy
Speaker 1: as that sounds, you know, I'm so happy. I already
Speaker 1: liked making happy music, but now there's just like this
Speaker 1: element of humor and honesty that wouldn't be there normally.
Speaker 1: You know that I would maybe take my I would
Speaker 1: take myself a little more serious and and maybe kind
Speaker 1: of dial a few of those back. But now I'm
Speaker 1: just like, you know what, I'm I'm here, and here
Speaker 1: I'm dancing around the house with a baby and and uh,
Speaker 1: you know, having phone with my wife, and so I
Speaker 1: get into the studio and it's just like I can't
Speaker 1: turn that off. I think it's just more fun. Damn.
Speaker 1: I mean, being a first time parent during lockdown. My
Speaker 1: sister's going through that right now herself. That's no joke.
Speaker 1: How is how's that experience been for you? It's far
Speaker 1: less scary than I thought it would be. Right before
Speaker 1: she was born, I was like, oh god, I'm responsible
Speaker 1: for a human being. This is gonna be that. You
Speaker 1: can barely take care of myself. But then she's there
Speaker 1: and you see your face and you hear those first
Speaker 1: little noises and you're like, holy sh it, this is
Speaker 1: just the coolest thing I have ever done, you know.
Speaker 1: And then every day she changes so much, so it's like,
Speaker 1: you know, it just keeps you on your toes in
Speaker 1: the sweetest way possible. Oh that's the thing I did
Speaker 1: not expect with with my niece. Like a week goes
Speaker 1: by and you're like, you're you're different. Stop stop no,
Speaker 1: yeah exactly, And then the tooth pops out and you're like,
Speaker 1: what is that. You're supposed to get those and they're
Speaker 1: not gonna start falling out, And then it's it's crazy.
Speaker 1: It's so much fun though, it really is. I sound
Speaker 1: like a broken record, but it's it's the coolest job
Speaker 1: I've ever had. Is she into music yet? My my
Speaker 1: brother in law plays guitar for my my niece and
Speaker 1: she just squeals and kicks and stuff as row in
Speaker 1: the music. Oh, it's crazy. It's like you you put
Speaker 1: on any kind of music and she immediately kind of
Speaker 1: starts bouncing. And then I don't know how she knows
Speaker 1: to dance harder during the chorus, but like the chorus
Speaker 1: hits and she just like lights up a little more,
Speaker 1: and I'm just like, it's it's so cool to see.
Speaker 1: And I don't know how she understands it so well,
Speaker 1: but she does. So, you know, she wants to start
Speaker 1: a band with me when I'm an old man. We
Speaker 1: can do it. It's gonna say it's innate and center
Speaker 1: center blood right. Oh man, have you been getting parenting
Speaker 1: advice from from your dad? You know he kind of
Speaker 1: minds his own business a little bit. He uh, he
Speaker 1: chimes in when I asked, But you know he's he's
Speaker 1: been more useful for just a place to event to,
Speaker 1: you know where I'm like if I do something, I'm
Speaker 1: like afraid I'm doing it wrong, or like is she
Speaker 1: gonna am I gonna be gone too long here? Or whatever.
Speaker 1: He's he's really good about to take it easy. It's
Speaker 1: she is permanent. She's not going anywhere you need to go.
Speaker 1: Take care of yourself, have fun, and and do your thing.
Speaker 1: So he's better for that. He kind of he likes
Speaker 1: to sit back and watch us figure it out. That's cool.
Speaker 1: That's a great resource to have. I mean, he's obviously
Speaker 1: so famous for giving his advice. Is he ever a
Speaker 1: sounding board for you with your music? Do you ever
Speaker 1: play him stuff and say, you know, what do you
Speaker 1: think of this? Hell? Anything? No? No, he is. He's
Speaker 1: He's my biggest fan. He I sometimes have to not
Speaker 1: give him music too soon because no matter how many
Speaker 1: times I tell him not to play it for people,
Speaker 1: he plays it for everybody. Oh he's proud. He's proud,
Speaker 1: I know. But I kind of have to wait till
Speaker 1: it's a little more finished to give him, to give
Speaker 1: him the new songs. But he's the reason I love music.
Speaker 1: I grew up with music always playing in the house.
Speaker 1: He can barely play the radio, but he does love music,
Speaker 1: So you know, I grew up with all kinds of
Speaker 1: music playing throughout the house. Oh man, like, what any
Speaker 1: any songs you here to this day? And think, oh
Speaker 1: my god, I'm I'm tann and I'm in the yeah
Speaker 1: dead Man's curve, and do what did he are the
Speaker 1: two songs that I feel like, looking back, he played
Speaker 1: way too much Jane Dean songs dead Man's Curve of course,
Speaker 1: and then, uh, you know the one that I don't
Speaker 1: mind that he played all the time. It was a
Speaker 1: whole lot of love. So that one's on there too,
Speaker 1: but I can't really make fun of him for that one.
Speaker 1: So what are some sounds that that made you want
Speaker 1: to make music? Were there? Are there any any groups
Speaker 1: are in a particular song song is that really like
Speaker 1: inspired you to say, you know what, this is what
Speaker 1: I want to do with my life. Yeah. I think
Speaker 1: the first like aha moment for me. My second concert
Speaker 1: I ever went to was Tina Turner and uh yeah,
Speaker 1: and it's it's crazy because on this tour we're playing
Speaker 1: the venue I saw her, and so it's like the first, yeah,
Speaker 1: the first time that I was like, Okay, I want
Speaker 1: to do this. I don't know what capacity, but I
Speaker 1: want to do this was her show there, so um,
Speaker 1: you know, it's just she's NonStop, dancing, NonStop. Everybody on
Speaker 1: stage is just competing to have more fun than the
Speaker 1: person next to them, and it's just like it was
Speaker 1: just this ball of energy just thrown right into your face,
Speaker 1: and I never sat down, and I think my job
Speaker 1: was just dropped the whole time. And I was like,
Speaker 1: I don't know what this is yet, but I'm doing that.
Speaker 1: You start off in bands originally, How does going through
Speaker 1: this adventure solo? Now? How does that compare to to
Speaker 1: being in a band? For you? Being in a band
Speaker 1: was cool, you know, I missed parts of it sometimes,
Speaker 1: but it's also like having five girlfriends at once, you know,
Speaker 1: like everybody, everybody wants a little piece of everybody's time,
Speaker 1: and you know it's you get there's like a it's
Speaker 1: like you want to make a decision, you gotta take
Speaker 1: it to the board, and everybody's got to vote on it.
Speaker 1: Somebody's just in a bad mood, whatever. And then I
Speaker 1: did it by myself for the first time, and I
Speaker 1: was like, Okay, this is easy, Let's stick with this.
Speaker 1: And then I realized that I kind of get best
Speaker 1: of both worlds because I don't like a rotating door
Speaker 1: of just different musicians. So the band that I have
Speaker 1: playing with me live are often the people in the
Speaker 1: studio and that I wind up hanging out with it.
Speaker 1: You get the best of both worlds. There was a
Speaker 1: quote you gave recently, or you said that this new
Speaker 1: music she and her are the first music that's really
Speaker 1: authentically you. What do you think that is? Is that
Speaker 1: just a place that all artists drive to get to
Speaker 1: and you got there, or it does something that would
Speaker 1: lockdown and being able to be more introspective and becoming
Speaker 1: a parent or something. What was that? I think it's
Speaker 1: a little bit of both. I think people kind of
Speaker 1: rolled their eyes when you say, like, I finally figured
Speaker 1: out what I want to sound like. But it a
Speaker 1: lot harder than you think it is to kind of
Speaker 1: take what's in your brain, what you're doing with your
Speaker 1: hands and music and all of that and and your
Speaker 1: voice and kind of combining him in a way that
Speaker 1: makes a straight line to you. You know, that's your
Speaker 1: musical journey. Like that's why you can't take for granted
Speaker 1: the steps that you take to get where you want
Speaker 1: to be. But then, yeah, I mean being in quarantine
Speaker 1: and and being locked in the house and then locking
Speaker 1: myself in a room to really figure it out definitely
Speaker 1: expedited the process a little bit, kind of made it
Speaker 1: more of a moment. So you know, I'm in a
Speaker 1: weird way, I'm kind of grateful for that, like forced
Speaker 1: time to sit and think. Is that something that you
Speaker 1: would do every day like some people do yoga or
Speaker 1: go jogging or something. Do you sit for a certain time? Yeah,
Speaker 1: My my attention span is is way too short for that.
Speaker 1: But I try. I try, and then I'll just like
Speaker 1: I'll just sit down to meditate, and then I'll just
Speaker 1: like start staring into a corner and the the next thing
Speaker 1: you know, I'm counting all of the the corners in
Speaker 1: the room, and I'm like, next thing you know, I
Speaker 1: don't even realize it, and I'm I'm playing a game
Speaker 1: on my phone. That's why I've never been able to meditate.
Speaker 1: And also mostly I I love music. I loved it
Speaker 1: all my life. I can I I mess around enough
Speaker 1: phone on a number of instruments. Never been able to
Speaker 1: write a song in my entire life. I I get
Speaker 1: two or three notes in and I just said, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's that song, that's that song, that's that song. I
Speaker 1: can't and I can't get past that. And I'm thirty
Speaker 1: three years old and I can't do it. Definitely feel
Speaker 1: that vibe. I have to, like I have to sit
Speaker 1: in my studio and I have to allow myself those breaks,
Speaker 1: like I just it winds up shortening the process if
Speaker 1: I let myself daydream and and get away from it,
Speaker 1: you know. And then as far as that, this sounds
Speaker 1: like that, and this sounds like that, David Foster told
Speaker 1: me one time to never forget that amateur's borrow and
Speaker 1: professional steal. So if you're gonna do it, beyond apologetic
Speaker 1: about it and just own it. It's an influence, go
Speaker 1: for it and rip it off. But you know, and
Speaker 1: your own thing. There's nothing that Mozart didn't do before
Speaker 1: all of those other people. So yeah, you hear that
Speaker 1: again and again. I mean Don Everley from the Everly
Speaker 1: Brothers just passed away, and you hear all these people,
Speaker 1: I mean Lennon McCartney's harmonies was was that was the
Speaker 1: Everly Brothers. I mean, you hear all the people that
Speaker 1: they influenced. I mean it's the Beatles have said that
Speaker 1: all they did was steel the Beach Boy's songs and
Speaker 1: give them to you with a funny accent. Is there?
Speaker 1: I mean, David Foster, that must have been just a
Speaker 1: master class and in production and composition, like, like, what
Speaker 1: are some other things that you glean from from your
Speaker 1: time together. The best piece of advice I ever got
Speaker 1: musically is from him, and he said, always be the
Speaker 1: worst one in your band. Always be able to keep up,
Speaker 1: but always be the worst one in your band, because
Speaker 1: if you surround yourself with people that can outplay you,
Speaker 1: not only will it make you better, but it will
Speaker 1: make you sound better. And you will have more fun
Speaker 1: creating with with that kind of safety net behind you
Speaker 1: than you than you would feeling like you're carrying the
Speaker 1: whole thing uphill. So there was that, and then he's
Speaker 1: just a very honest person, and I think sometimes that
Speaker 1: comes across as negative, but he's not. He's actually a
Speaker 1: very encouraging person. He just does it in a very
Speaker 1: blunt way. So if you start, if you're going to
Speaker 1: play him a song, and you start with, hey, it's
Speaker 1: not finished, you know, I still want to do this,
Speaker 1: He'll just be like, cool, don't play it for me.
Speaker 1: Then he's like, if you're going to convince me that
Speaker 1: it's not good before you play it for me, then
Speaker 1: it's not good. Don't play it for me. The message there, though,
Speaker 1: it is be confident about your art. So I think
Speaker 1: just the tough critic that he is kind of encourages
Speaker 1: you to just be better and more, even if it's
Speaker 1: false confidence, just just be more confident. Play a number
Speaker 1: of instruments. Is there one among them that you prefer
Speaker 1: to compose on? Piano or guitar or something else, Sir.
Speaker 1: As far as writing it, I think it switches for me.
Speaker 1: I started on guitar, so you know, at some point
Speaker 1: that became just something I fought with, So I switched
Speaker 1: to keyboard or piano, and you know, I was able
Speaker 1: to write on that for a little bit. But then
Speaker 1: my good old friend the guitar was sitting in the
Speaker 1: corner being like, hey, you wanna do this again? And
Speaker 1: so now I'm gonna in a guitar phase. I like
Speaker 1: to just kind of sit on and just figure out
Speaker 1: something that I can play and sing at the same time,
Speaker 1: and then that usually turns itself into something that I
Speaker 1: didn't even plan on. Do you have a favorite guitar?
Speaker 1: I'm a huge guitar nerd. Yeah, well I'm I'm also
Speaker 1: a guitar nerd. I have way too many of them.
Speaker 1: I like to record on a fifty nine Jazz Master.
Speaker 1: That's that's like my that's my studio guitar. But then
Speaker 1: on stage now I'm playing. My first guitar ever was
Speaker 1: a Tom DeLong strat, just the one, the one knob
Speaker 1: and the one humbucker. I recently found two of those
Speaker 1: and I bought those and they're my That's all I
Speaker 1: play on stage now. Oh my god. I I had
Speaker 1: a Blink base when I was in like high school
Speaker 1: and we were doing like Stay Together for the Kids
Speaker 1: and Green Day Minority and j R. And stuff like
Speaker 1: that was all we played exactly that. That's that's those
Speaker 1: are the songs I bought the guitar to learn. Totally.
Speaker 1: It's like full circle to go back and and now
Speaker 1: I'm playing a lot more guitar on stage now than
Speaker 1: I have in the past, and so it's fun to
Speaker 1: do it with my first what was my first guitar?
Speaker 1: That's awesome. Do you have any plans to try to
Speaker 1: like get and play with Angels and their waves or
Speaker 1: Tom solo or something like that, or anything I could
Speaker 1: do with any of those dudes. I would just be
Speaker 1: like I would stutter my way into the room and
Speaker 1: be like we go, like Chris Farley talking to Paul
Speaker 1: McCartney exactly exactly. Did you have any collaborations live up
Speaker 1: any any dream with out there that you're moving towards,
Speaker 1: for people you want to make music with totally. I
Speaker 1: mean Travis Barker, of course, just because I'm a blink
Speaker 1: nerd Mark Hoppus, I would love to. I would love
Speaker 1: to do. Wishing him the best obviously is going through it.
Speaker 1: But Tom DeLonge, any of the blank guys, obviously, I
Speaker 1: don't need to name all three of them. And then
Speaker 1: there's a Belgian artist named Strom that is right at
Speaker 1: the top of my list. I think he's one of
Speaker 1: the most creative people on earth. Any of these guys,
Speaker 1: I mean, Billy Joe would be unreal to I always
Speaker 1: say that even if Billy Joe heard my music and
Speaker 1: said he hated it, I would still be starstruck because
Speaker 1: at least he hates my music and knows that it's there.
Speaker 1: He knows you exist totally across consciousness. Yeah, exactly. He
Speaker 1: had an emotion about me. I'm cool with that, and
Speaker 1: I hear what it is. Yeah, punch me in the face, man,
Speaker 1: I'll take it. When you haven't been making music, getting
Speaker 1: married and caring for a new life in quarantine, I've heard.
Speaker 1: I think you I have this right that you've been
Speaker 1: learning magic. That's more of my attention span going out
Speaker 1: the window. I try, and I get so frustrated because
Speaker 1: I don't learn the basics before I try to learn
Speaker 1: the cool tricks. So I I kind of I've kind
Speaker 1: of given up a little bit, but I'll try again
Speaker 1: at some point. I just want to make something disappear.
Speaker 1: It's it's kind of the same as it's the same
Speaker 1: reason I play music, is why I love the magic.
Speaker 1: It's just like for somebody to just pretend that reality
Speaker 1: doesn't exist for a couple of minutes. It's just the
Speaker 1: coolest thing in the World's that's the most amazing description
Speaker 1: of music I've heard in a really long time. Wow,
Speaker 1: thank you for that. That's why we go to concerts.
Speaker 1: Right as soon as you walk into the venue, you're
Speaker 1: it's you're a different person. It's a different world. All
Speaker 1: you want as an overpriced T shirt and overpriced beer
Speaker 1: and a bunch of strangers to yell in your face.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. It's like that's but at
Speaker 1: the same time, nothing makes you happier, and that's the
Speaker 1: colest part about it. And you're on the road through
Speaker 1: through the end of the fall, October, Yeah, into October. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what else you got coming down the pike? There an
Speaker 1: EP on the way. You know, I have been just
Speaker 1: stacking songs up on the way up to this tour,
Speaker 1: So I'm not sure that the best way to release
Speaker 1: it all. If it were up to me, I would
Speaker 1: just dump it all out there. But you know, I've
Speaker 1: I've come to realize that as frustrating as it is
Speaker 1: to wait to put out music, you know, you have
Speaker 1: to do it to give each song it's best chance.
Speaker 1: And so whatever that roadmap is for these songs, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm on board with. So I eventually want to put
Speaker 1: out a plastic jewel case with c D book and
Speaker 1: an old get the CD in it with you know,
Speaker 1: all the lyrics and the wordy thank you and whatnot.
Speaker 1: But uh, I don't know when that's going to happen.
Speaker 1: But in the meantime there will be a steady flow
Speaker 1: of songs for sure. Awesome. While we look forward to that,
Speaker 1: and we look forward to see when when you come
Speaker 1: around these parts, Joey McGrath, thank you so much for
Speaker 1: your music in your time today. It's been such a pleasure.
Speaker 1: I really appreciate it. Thank you. This was so much fun.
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