1 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 1: All right, welcome in Late Kick on the Air. Yet again. 2 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:20,600 Speaker 1: It is Sunday night, it is July nineteenth, the year 3 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:23,640 Speaker 1: of our Lord, twenty twenty. We have got what else 4 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 1: would we have a jam packed show again tonight? And 5 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:29,160 Speaker 1: like Colin and I were talking before the show, yeah, 6 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 1: there are some things that most people are talking about 7 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:34,240 Speaker 1: today and yesterday and day before, We're gonna go a 8 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:36,280 Speaker 1: little different route tonight. I have had some things that 9 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:39,640 Speaker 1: I wanted to hit and this Sunday Night show that's 10 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:41,880 Speaker 1: where we're going to hit them at. So how about 11 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:43,959 Speaker 1: this road? How about in a couple of minutes, we're 12 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:48,200 Speaker 1: gonna start by going down the Gary Danielson Road. Yeah, 13 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:50,280 Speaker 1: we're gonna go down that one. We're also going to 14 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 1: go down the most overachieving programs in America. Nothing but 15 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 1: positivity here tonight. We talk underachievers all the time. How 16 00:00:57,560 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 1: about some overachievers. I'm gonna go some places you think 17 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 1: go maybe at least one place that not only do 18 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 1: I know you don't think I'll go, but I will 19 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:08,479 Speaker 1: get criticism for it because I've said this before about 20 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 1: this program and you disagreed with me then, But I 21 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:15,480 Speaker 1: stand on the merit behind my argument. Also, as I 22 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:18,480 Speaker 1: told you Thursday night, we're gonna dive a little bit deeper. 23 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 1: Bud Elliott and I were doing the Barton and Bud 24 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 1: Show and no, my name's not Barton, but Barton just 25 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:26,040 Speaker 1: had another baby girl. So congratulations to him. Very delayed. 26 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:29,040 Speaker 1: It's been over a week now, very delayed. There, congratulations 27 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:31,120 Speaker 1: to him. I was filling in though for him on 28 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:34,120 Speaker 1: his podcast with Bud Elliott, and we weren't planning on 29 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 1: talking about Justin Fields and Jake from and way back 30 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:40,319 Speaker 1: when three years ago. Now, Kirby Smart goes with from 31 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:44,399 Speaker 1: Fields exit stage right, goes to Columbus, Ohio. You know 32 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 1: the rest. But we did go down that road, which 33 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 1: led me to want to talk about it more. And 34 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 1: I've seen some of the feedback from that episode, and 35 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 1: so I want to address that tonight. I just want 36 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 1: to revisit it. And there's some revisionist history that I 37 00:01:57,560 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 1: wanted to spell because I want to take especially some 38 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 1: of my Georgia buddies. I want to take you back 39 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 1: to what we were all saying. Not necessarily we let 40 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:08,920 Speaker 1: me scratch that, what some people were saying at the time, 41 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 1: So all that as well as somebody trying to rain 42 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 1: again on the hype train that is attempting to pull 43 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 1: out of the station in Knoxville, Tennessee. So we've got 44 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:21,640 Speaker 1: a lot to get to, but we're going to leave 45 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 1: it off tonight with not a young man, but a 46 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:29,800 Speaker 1: man who is nothing if not controversial. I personally don't 47 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:33,399 Speaker 1: understand the controversy, but yet I do understand the controversy. 48 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:36,239 Speaker 1: So I'm doing the Late Kick Extra podcast the other day, 49 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:38,640 Speaker 1: and there it is right there, Colin, I was telling 50 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 1: you before the show, there it is in the inbox. 51 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 1: We have got several people, David, I just picked David's 52 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 1: question out, but quite a few people over the span 53 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 1: of the couple of months we've done that podcast, have asked, Hey, 54 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 1: what do you think about Gary Danielson? Hey do you 55 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 1: like Gary Danielson? David asked, why is it that everyone 56 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 1: seems to be in unison in the SEC Everyone hates 57 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:00,079 Speaker 1: each other, but yeah, there's one thing they agree on. 58 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 1: No one seems to like Gary Danielson. Okay, well let's 59 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 1: go down this road. Gary Danielson, if you don't know, 60 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 1: is the one on the right there. He is the analyst, 61 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:09,240 Speaker 1: the lead analyst for the CBS Game of the Week 62 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:14,079 Speaker 1: on SEC has been for a while. So everyone doesn't 63 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 1: dislike Gary Danielson. Just a majority of people who you 64 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 1: hear from dislike him. Because I've spoken to people before 65 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 1: about what they think about I mean, I've had several 66 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:24,520 Speaker 1: people say, oh, he's fine, or oh I even like him. 67 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:27,079 Speaker 1: But those people aren't the ones who tend to run 68 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 1: to a message board or a talk show or the 69 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 1: YouTube chat and dispel their pleasure. Normally, you only really 70 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 1: start speaking out about an analyst or a broadcaster when 71 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 1: you don't like them. So by default, all the opinions 72 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 1: you hear about Gary Danielson, most of them are negative. 73 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 1: So let's go down the list. You can add on 74 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 1: as you see fit. This is the list that I 75 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 1: have aggregated about different reasons that people dislike Gary Danielson. Well, 76 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 1: everyone I hear from thinks that he is biased towards 77 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 1: or against something that you care about. He has arrogance. 78 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 1: I'm going to address all these individually. The third is 79 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 1: all he messes up names sometimes, and the fourth one 80 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 1: is he makes too many obvious statements. All right, I've 81 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:17,720 Speaker 1: heard all these, so let's go down this list. The 82 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 1: bias is the one I want to address first. This 83 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 1: one's the easiest to dispel. He doesn't care, and I 84 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 1: know it because I don't really care either. I'm extremely 85 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:30,159 Speaker 1: passionate about the sport, don't get me wrong. But where 86 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:33,359 Speaker 1: I can identify with what people say about Gary Danielson 87 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:36,480 Speaker 1: on this front is is Colin you know this. I've 88 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:39,839 Speaker 1: told you this before we doing this show. Just in 89 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 1: the short amount of time we've been at twenty four 90 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 1: to seven, we have been accused by some people of 91 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 1: being both homers and haters simultaneously, of like a dozen programs. 92 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 1: By the end of this show tonight, we will be 93 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:56,719 Speaker 1: called Tennessee homers or Tennessee haters, or Georgia homers and 94 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 1: haters like whoever we talk about on the show. People 95 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 1: find a way to hear whatever they want to hear. 96 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 1: The way that I know that guys like Gary Danielson 97 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 1: don't really care either way is because what they really 98 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 1: want is they want a paycheck. That's the first thing 99 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:14,599 Speaker 1: they want. Secondly, they have the platform to be able 100 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 1: to share with you whatever it is they think. But 101 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 1: really thoroughly, once you get to that level, you understand 102 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:24,839 Speaker 1: it's a lot more about keeping as many people invested 103 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 1: as possible. You don't want to alienate anyone. The last 104 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 1: thing in the world you would do, even if you 105 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 1: did hate a program, the last thing in the world 106 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 1: you would do is espouse those viewpoints on live TV. 107 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 1: That's not what's happening. And for everybody who let's just 108 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 1: pick a program, let's pick Auburn. For everyone who would 109 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 1: claim all this man hates Auburn, I could go and 110 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 1: weave my way through a broadcast and get fifteen examples 111 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 1: of that broadcaster speaking glowingly about Auburn. So, and here's 112 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 1: the other thing that I've experienced before. Used to happen 113 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 1: and talk radio all the time. It's it's where you 114 00:05:56,640 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 1: realize there is really no winning with some people. You'd 115 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:04,040 Speaker 1: make a statement that was not negative, it was just 116 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:05,920 Speaker 1: not glowing. Like if I didn't think a team was 117 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:08,280 Speaker 1: going to win a game, I would pick the team 118 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 1: to lose the game, right, And then you would take 119 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:13,159 Speaker 1: calls and you would be accused of being a hater 120 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 1: because there's no way you just don't think they're going 121 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 1: to win the game. If you pick against them, it's 122 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 1: got to because you're a hater. But then a funny 123 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:22,840 Speaker 1: thing happens the team loses the game, so you end 124 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 1: up being right. There's no other way you could have 125 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 1: framed it if you wanted to be right than saying 126 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:29,720 Speaker 1: that they were going to lose the game. Your piece 127 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 1: came out, So they end up losing the game, and 128 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:34,280 Speaker 1: then you hear from the same fans the next week, 129 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 1: and they still maintain your hater status. So what do 130 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 1: you really do there? So let's move to the second part, 131 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:46,720 Speaker 1: the arrogance. The arrogance is to me, someone who just 132 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:50,839 Speaker 1: really doesn't mind how you feel about what they say. 133 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 1: The authenticity is what I care about. We spoke about 134 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 1: this like a month ago and we were talking about 135 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 1: urban Meyer. Actually it was like last week in a month. 136 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 1: But with urban Meyer, I told you the reason that 137 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 1: I thought he was doing so phenomenally in this line 138 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 1: of work was because he was being his authentic self. 139 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:08,599 Speaker 1: Whatever was in his head, in his heart was coming 140 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 1: out of his mouth. He did not walk into a 141 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 1: studio and pretend to be one of the TV guys. 142 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 1: He is a college football coach who just so happens 143 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 1: to be sitting at a broadcast booth or at a 144 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 1: studio desk. So with Gary Danielson, for example, when I 145 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 1: listened to him, I changed my mentality. This is what 146 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 1: I was talking to Colin about before the show. I 147 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 1: told him, I changed my mentality on this. Like a 148 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 1: decade ago, I used to just want a guy in 149 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 1: the booth who said everything I agreed with. But then 150 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 1: I realized I could go and listen to the home 151 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:44,280 Speaker 1: radio broadcast if I wanted that on a national broadcast, 152 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 1: I don't have to agree with everything you say. I 153 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 1: just want to make sure that I know what you're saying. 154 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 1: You truly believe you're truly being authentic. I could be 155 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 1: pulling for Arkansas and you could tell me that you 156 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 1: think they'll struggle to hang within three touchdowns today. But 157 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 1: if you give me the tangible logic based reasons behind 158 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 1: why you think what you think, even if I disagree 159 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 1: with you, one of us is gonna be right. One 160 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 1: of us is gonna be wrong. At least I know 161 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 1: you're being authentic and you have an informed viewpoint, because 162 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 1: if you are a guy like Danielson, you actually played 163 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:16,720 Speaker 1: the game. You played in the NFL, you played in college, 164 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 1: so you actually played the game. So I don't mind 165 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 1: that either. I've changed my philosophy on that over the 166 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 1: course of ten years, I used to say, all these 167 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 1: things is the reason this is so I can identify 168 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 1: with this so much. Now the names, this is the 169 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:34,560 Speaker 1: one I really wanted to hit. So in any broadcast, rarely, 170 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:36,599 Speaker 1: let me say, rarely, are you going to execute a 171 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 1: perfect broadcast where you pronounce every name the right way, 172 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:42,080 Speaker 1: every number, everything's right, every home town's pronounced the right way, 173 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 1: especially in the South. So a lot of people who 174 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 1: poke fun at formerly Vern Lundquist and currently Gary Danielson, 175 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 1: they used to work together on the CBS SEC Game 176 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:55,320 Speaker 1: of the Week. Was I mean, you know, there was 177 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 1: a middle linebacker for Alabama named Orlando McCain. Apparently now 178 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 1: in real life, you and I both know that's Rolando mcclaim. 179 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 1: So that was a name that was commonly butchered, and 180 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 1: there have been several It's almost become a drinking game 181 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:09,080 Speaker 1: for those of you who take part in such activities 182 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:12,080 Speaker 1: as to which name is going to be butchered. This 183 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 1: has never bothered me. This to me, is not indicative 184 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 1: at all of how well you understand the game. To me, 185 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 1: it's indicative of being in a broadcast booth. Now I 186 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:23,080 Speaker 1: have an unfair advantage here because I've been at them 187 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 1: this past year. I, through thankfully some connections, was able 188 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 1: to be I don't want to tell you the game. 189 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 1: I was at a national game. So I was sitting 190 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 1: in the broadcast booth at a national game year before, 191 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 1: same thing, same broadcast team for one of the major networks, 192 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 1: and I was sitting in the broadcast booth. I just 193 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 1: wish people could experience that. I wish people could experience 194 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:44,720 Speaker 1: having one of these things. It's called an IFB, this earpiece. 195 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 1: If you're listening on the podcast not having one of these, 196 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 1: and you're actually having a full headset on, and you 197 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 1: have two different feeds coming depending on which ear you're 198 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:56,199 Speaker 1: looking at. One's coming from a production truck, one is 199 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 1: coming from your spotterer, and they're talking. It's not like 200 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:01,960 Speaker 1: they show up while the play's going on. It's just 201 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 1: like doing local news. I did that for a long time. 202 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 1: I anchored news for a long time. You got a 203 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:09,080 Speaker 1: producer that's in your ear. It is a flow, it 204 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 1: is a conversation. You hear all the production cues being 205 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 1: called sot roll three two one, take tag on camera four. 206 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 1: All that stuff's happening in your ear. I don't care 207 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 1: how experienced you are. You never really fully get used 208 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 1: to that. In a football game, you got a roster 209 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 1: in front of you of like one hundred and fifty 210 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:29,559 Speaker 1: to two hundred names that you're not all that familiar 211 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 1: with like a fan is, and you've got to memorize 212 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:34,080 Speaker 1: a new one each week. And you've got to you 213 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 1: got a spotter in your ear, you got a production 214 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 1: truck in your ear. It's a lot of times very chaotic. 215 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:42,839 Speaker 1: You're hearing the replay calls real time from the truck. 216 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 1: They're letting you know what they're queuing up. All that's 217 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 1: happening in your ear as you're on national TV trying 218 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 1: to talk through things. And it's not pre recorded. There's 219 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 1: no dry run. You don't get to go back and say, 220 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 1: all right, Colin, at the end of this show, I 221 00:10:57,559 --> 00:11:00,440 Speaker 1: want to clip this, this, this, and this. It's live, baby, 222 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:03,160 Speaker 1: you just gotta let it roll. And so you're gonna 223 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:06,400 Speaker 1: mispronounce names every now and then. I swear to you, 224 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 1: if I put you guys through that, you would mispronounce 225 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:11,679 Speaker 1: your mom's name every now and then. It's not that 226 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:14,200 Speaker 1: you don't know the roster. It's not that you don't 227 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 1: know the names. It's just the human mind is not 228 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 1: really built to function in that kind of environment over 229 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:21,200 Speaker 1: the span of four hours. You gotta be sharp for 230 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:25,080 Speaker 1: four hours. So and he has not hired me as 231 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 1: his agent this week. I mean, I'm willing to listen, 232 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 1: I'm willing to entertain the offer, but he has not 233 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 1: hired me. But the final one is the obvious statement one. 234 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:34,680 Speaker 1: And this again is something I was talking to Colin about. 235 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:36,960 Speaker 1: So I was talking to a producer, someone who works 236 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:40,599 Speaker 1: in production for a network last year. They kind of 237 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:44,840 Speaker 1: validated what I already knew. You may watch a broadcast 238 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 1: and you may say, well, that was the most obvious 239 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 1: point in the world, Like he points out something that 240 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:53,439 Speaker 1: you learned in pee wee football, and so you think, oh, 241 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 1: he thinks he's a genius because he just pointed that out. 242 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 1: That's the most obvious thing in the world. Everyone knows that. 243 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 1: So I brought that argument up to mister producer. And 244 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 1: here's what mister producer told me. Yeah, if you said 245 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:10,200 Speaker 1: in our production meetings, you'd know why, cause our producers 246 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 1: hammer it into them that they are broadcasting to the 247 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:18,720 Speaker 1: casual fan. This is not a coaching clinic. You're not 248 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:22,520 Speaker 1: doing chalk talk sessions where you're breaking down the intricacies 249 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 1: of zone blocking. You're not talking to that person. That's 250 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:29,679 Speaker 1: the fringe minority, people who have that much of an 251 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 1: understanding of the game. They are the rarity. You're trying 252 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 1: to reach the mass public. And so there are some concepts, 253 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 1: very basic of football that you have to explain over 254 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 1: and over and over again. Perfect example, if you see 255 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:47,679 Speaker 1: a receiver go up for a fade route and they 256 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 1: drag one toe. If I'm Gary Danielson, you know what 257 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:53,440 Speaker 1: I got to say, even though I said it a 258 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:55,439 Speaker 1: million times and I know a bunch of you already 259 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:57,959 Speaker 1: know it, here's what I gotta say. I gotta say. Now, 260 00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:00,960 Speaker 1: remember in the college game, you'll have to have one 261 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:03,840 Speaker 1: foot in bounds. If you look at this replay. If 262 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 1: this were the NFL, that wouldn't be a touchdown. But 263 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:09,200 Speaker 1: when they come back, they're going to overturn this because 264 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 1: this is a touchdown because he's got one foot in. 265 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 1: Now you may say, Okay, dude, you just made the 266 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:16,720 Speaker 1: point over and over again, and everyone already knows that. No, 267 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:20,600 Speaker 1: everyone doesn't know that you and I know it, but 268 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 1: your Grandma may be sitting there watching the game and 269 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:25,080 Speaker 1: she may not know it. Your niece may be watching 270 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 1: the game. Your cousin, who is a gamer and rarely 271 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 1: ever watches sports, may be watching the game. They don't 272 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:33,840 Speaker 1: know that that's who they're broadcasting towards. And really, when 273 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 1: you think it through like that, it all makes sense. 274 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:38,720 Speaker 1: So I just wanted to give you some point counterpoint. 275 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:41,199 Speaker 1: I always hear these arguments about guys like Danielson. He's 276 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 1: not the only one, but he's the one that David 277 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:46,560 Speaker 1: asked about. So those are just some counterpoints, and I'm 278 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:49,600 Speaker 1: sure the comment section will fill up, but be nice, 279 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:52,680 Speaker 1: be nice, cause I mean, listen, he's got family just 280 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 1: like everyone else, So let's be civil here. How about 281 00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 1: the most overachieving programs in America? Had a really good 282 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:02,199 Speaker 1: question the other night, second in a row, actually from 283 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:04,439 Speaker 1: the Late Kick inbox as we were putting together the 284 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 1: Late Kick Extra podcast that is released on Wednesday and 285 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 1: it's there for the whole week if you want to 286 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 1: listen to it, and Kattrain asked a question that I 287 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:16,560 Speaker 1: don't think we've been asked this entire off season. We've 288 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:20,120 Speaker 1: been asked about underachieving programs a whole lot. But Cattrain 289 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 1: said very simply three words, most overachieving programs in America. 290 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 1: So that's five. And how do you gauge this? Because 291 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 1: you can think this through with me, because I know 292 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 1: everyone has their own criteria. How do you gauge it? 293 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 1: I'll tell you how I gauge it. Overachieving programs. I 294 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:41,240 Speaker 1: just want to know about your results compared to your resources. 295 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 1: And to me, there's nowhere else to start but Duke 296 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 1: and what Dave Cutcliffe has done at Duke. I want 297 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 1: you to think about something. I had to look this 298 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 1: up to make sure. Since twenty thirteen, in what world 299 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 1: did you ever think you'd hear this stat? Since twenty thirteen, 300 00:14:56,800 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 1: Duke has more seasons of seven plus wins then the 301 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 1: University of Texas. Yeah, Texas, And so I don't care 302 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 1: what world we're living in. I don't care who the 303 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 1: coaches have been at Texas. I don't care if they've 304 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 1: been under sanctions and had a cannonball tied around their 305 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:19,000 Speaker 1: ankle and been tossed to the bottom of the gulf. 306 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 1: That is pretty darn impressive. So Dave Cutcliffe not only 307 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 1: has he made Duke football more than respectable. He has 308 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 1: universal respect from every coach in America. Every coach that 309 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 1: you talk to, it's that guy. It's Dave Cutcliffe. And 310 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:37,400 Speaker 1: when they coach against him, it's always they may have 311 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 1: a superior roster so they win the game. But at 312 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 1: the postgame presser, they're so ashamed because they know we 313 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:46,160 Speaker 1: just beat them thirty eight to twenty one. But he 314 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 1: really out coached us. And they don't want to say 315 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 1: that because that's terrible, but they know it. They know 316 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:52,960 Speaker 1: it in the following day's film session, they know it. 317 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 1: Dave Cutcliff's done a phenomenal job. And believe you me, 318 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 1: he could have been on the next thing, smoking out 319 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 1: of town times very recently, and he's chosen to stay there. 320 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 1: Some people are just happy. How about Boise State? This 321 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 1: has been a several coach endeavor too. You tell me 322 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 1: what advantage you have in Boise Sometimes programs exceed expectation 323 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 1: or they fly well above the pack because they just 324 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 1: have more resources relative to their competition. Boise is the opposite. 325 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 1: And when Peterson really started that role out there, they 326 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:30,720 Speaker 1: were the opposite. They were competing against teams like Fresno State, 327 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:34,880 Speaker 1: for example, Fresno is in California. Boise's in the middle 328 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 1: of Idaho. You should be at a disadvantage. Not only 329 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 1: is it a level playing field, you should be at 330 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 1: a disadvantage at Boise State if you're trying to convince 331 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:47,360 Speaker 1: a kid to leave California and come to Idaho versus 332 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:50,480 Speaker 1: teams in California saying, hey, just stay home. What do 333 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 1: you think is gonna win there more times than not? 334 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 1: So you had to be going above and beyond, above 335 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:56,320 Speaker 1: and beyond, above and beyond, and you had to have 336 00:16:56,360 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 1: such a culture in place that it overcame all that, 337 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 1: and they build it, and now they've sustained it, and 338 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:07,360 Speaker 1: every year they are a version of a contender. They 339 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:09,679 Speaker 1: may be a more serious contender some years than not. 340 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 1: But there's no logical way to explain what they've been 341 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:16,440 Speaker 1: able to do unless you get down into the more 342 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:19,920 Speaker 1: granular level and you just understand. That's why all these 343 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:23,280 Speaker 1: coaches use the word culture. That's why every business uses 344 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:26,200 Speaker 1: the word culture. And it sounds so cliched and you think, oh, 345 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 1: this is just a talking point. No, it's not, because 346 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:31,399 Speaker 1: when you have it in most places don't have it. 347 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:34,720 Speaker 1: But when you find the rarity the exception where they 348 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 1: do have culture. You know, they got it at North 349 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:39,640 Speaker 1: Dakota State, for example, we could easily include them here. 350 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 1: They got it at Boise they got it at Boise State. 351 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 1: This is what happens. It almost gets to the point 352 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 1: where from the outside you look at it and say 353 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 1: that seems like it'd be hard to screw up. No, 354 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 1: they're just making it look that easy. Next up, Iowa State. 355 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 1: Let's go to the big twelve, Iowa State. I've developed 356 00:17:56,280 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 1: this fascination with Iowa State seven and six record last year, 357 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 1: and do you know what people called it? People had 358 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:06,960 Speaker 1: the audacity to either whisper it or outright say that 359 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:09,600 Speaker 1: that was a down year cause people expected a little 360 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:11,399 Speaker 1: bit more. I'd be lying if I said I didn't 361 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 1: expect a little bit more. But I'm certainly never gonna 362 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:16,680 Speaker 1: call seven and six a down year. At Iowa State, 363 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:19,919 Speaker 1: they have Matt Campbell has done a great job at this. 364 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:25,280 Speaker 1: They've established a well defined brand, well defined identity. You know, 365 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 1: the other night we were talking about the mood tracker 366 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 1: for the ACC and I said, for Virginia Tech, everyone 367 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:34,680 Speaker 1: there wants to know the same thing. What is our 368 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 1: identity like how do people identify us coast to coast. 369 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 1: They don't have that problem at Iowa State. Everyone knows 370 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 1: what they're about before Matt Campbell got there. Just to 371 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:48,919 Speaker 1: contextualize that, quote unquote seven and six down year. Before 372 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:53,439 Speaker 1: he got there, their last season of eight plus wins 373 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:57,280 Speaker 1: had been the year two thousand. It's a rarity to 374 00:18:57,440 --> 00:19:01,439 Speaker 1: be winning seven games there. Now it's perceived to be 375 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 1: a down year. That is the definition of overachievement. And 376 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:07,720 Speaker 1: now everyone continues to ask the question, Oh, where's he 377 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:10,360 Speaker 1: gonna go? Where's he gonna go? And it may ultimately 378 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:12,639 Speaker 1: be that he does leave there. But whether he leaves 379 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:15,639 Speaker 1: there or not, you take solace in the fact that 380 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:18,480 Speaker 1: as an Iowa State fan, as an Iowa State graduate, 381 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 1: as an Iowa State student, you've either got a world 382 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:25,919 Speaker 1: class head coach that's yours or if he ever leaves, 383 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:29,879 Speaker 1: the overall stature of the program has been raised to 384 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:33,400 Speaker 1: the point where you may be able to attract legitimate candidates, 385 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 1: the likes of which maybe you couldn't attract just a 386 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:38,359 Speaker 1: short generation ago. Now here's the one I was gonna 387 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:41,720 Speaker 1: bring up. This is an entirely different track. So don't 388 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:44,880 Speaker 1: identify this team or the reasons why I'm gonna give 389 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:48,399 Speaker 1: you for this team with Duke or with Boise. But 390 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:52,080 Speaker 1: I'm gonna mention Auburn to you hold your horses. Just 391 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:54,919 Speaker 1: settle down for a second. Here's the reason for Auburn. 392 00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 1: Think it through with me before you call it crazy. 393 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:01,159 Speaker 1: Auburn's got a bunch of resources. Auburn's got a big stadium, 394 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 1: Auburn's got nice facilities. They've got all that stuff. I 395 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:05,840 Speaker 1: know that. Here's what else they have. Now, I want 396 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 1: you to tell me what history suggests they should be 397 00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 1: their arch rival. The University of Alabama is in the 398 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 1: middle of a dynasty the likes of which the sport 399 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:18,280 Speaker 1: has never seen. And that really goes even back to 400 00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 1: what Bryant was able to do there. And so that's 401 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 1: happening in Alabama. What was Auburn in the majority of 402 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:28,879 Speaker 1: the time that Bryant was at Alabama? Think about just 403 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 1: that comparative analysis over time. Then add this into the equation. Georgia, 404 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 1: their number two rival, is on the precipice of being 405 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 1: a championship team. They've already played for one. They're recruiting 406 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:44,200 Speaker 1: at a top three level annually. They are right there. 407 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:46,920 Speaker 1: So Not only are you bumping up against one of 408 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:49,359 Speaker 1: the greatest dynasties in the history of college football with 409 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:52,640 Speaker 1: your arch, your number two rival is right there behind them, 410 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:57,120 Speaker 1: and your number three rival just won the national championship. 411 00:20:57,840 --> 00:21:00,960 Speaker 1: Those are the three big boys in order sequentially that 412 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:04,960 Speaker 1: Auburn would call their one two, three rivals historic dynasty, 413 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:11,400 Speaker 1: borderline championship program, current national champion. What does history say 414 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:13,359 Speaker 1: Auburn should be? Couldn't care less who the coach is. 415 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 1: What does history say Auburn should be? As I've told 416 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:20,919 Speaker 1: you recently an afterthought, a total non contender. They are 417 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 1: a bug on a windshield. That's what history says they 418 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:27,880 Speaker 1: should be. And yet twenty thirteen, twenty seventeen, twenty nineteen, 419 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:30,880 Speaker 1: they beat Auburn or they beat Alabama. Rather, Malzon's beaten 420 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:33,880 Speaker 1: Saban more than anyone has. They've been a contender, They've 421 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:36,720 Speaker 1: gone to the SEC championship game, they played for a 422 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:40,359 Speaker 1: national championship in Malason's first year. No, they're not racking 423 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:43,480 Speaker 1: up championship rings, and yes they have a lot of resources. 424 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:47,080 Speaker 1: But I'm asking you this, even with all that, you 425 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:50,440 Speaker 1: could pay the head coach twenty million dollars as long 426 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:53,440 Speaker 1: as those set of circumstances are still in place, Who's 427 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:55,679 Speaker 1: coming in there and doing a whole lot better than 428 00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:57,919 Speaker 1: Gus Malzon's done. Now I get some blowback on this 429 00:21:57,960 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 1: from Auburn folks because Auburn folks don't want to hear 430 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:01,720 Speaker 1: all that. They just want to look at the program 431 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 1: in a vacuum. But you can't do that. If I 432 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:07,080 Speaker 1: were to take Auburn and drop them in, for instance, 433 00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:10,320 Speaker 1: the ACC, they'd instantly be much more of a national 434 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:13,400 Speaker 1: championship contender every year because you'd say, to yourself, boy, 435 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:15,680 Speaker 1: if they get over Clemson, or maybe if they're good 436 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:17,640 Speaker 1: enough and they lose to Clemson, they can still get in. 437 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:21,640 Speaker 1: That's not the path. They play a few Clemsons. They 438 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:24,960 Speaker 1: play a few Tier two or Tier one programs per 439 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:28,159 Speaker 1: year in their division. So that's the plight at Auburn. 440 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 1: So I know they don't compare to Duke, they don't 441 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 1: compare to Iowa State, but for a different set of reasons. 442 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:34,680 Speaker 1: That's why I feel that way about Auburn, and I'll 443 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 1: stay in the state of Alabama to wrap it up 444 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 1: here quickly. UAB is like a total different story. What 445 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:43,240 Speaker 1: Bill Clark has done there is almost like in its 446 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:46,240 Speaker 1: own world. Most coaches would agree with this. What Bill 447 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:51,159 Speaker 1: Clark has done is he had a UAB as legitimate 448 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:55,120 Speaker 1: and then they dismantled the program, not for twenty four hours, 449 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 1: forty eight hours. For three years, they bring the program back. 450 00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 1: I can't stress this enough. The program did not exist. 451 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:02,879 Speaker 1: It was wiped off the face of the map for 452 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:07,359 Speaker 1: three years, not figuratively, literally it didn't exist. Then they 453 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:11,120 Speaker 1: brought it back in twenty seventeen. One year later eleven 454 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:13,639 Speaker 1: and three, or they brought it back in twenty eighteen. Anyway, 455 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 1: it took him one year and their conference USA champions 456 00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:20,040 Speaker 1: finished second in their first year back, won the conference 457 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:22,600 Speaker 1: the next year, and they were eleven and three last year. 458 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:26,000 Speaker 1: That's insane. And that's a guy who could go a 459 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:29,119 Speaker 1: lot of places too, and he just doesn't. He just 460 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:32,040 Speaker 1: likes it there. I've talked to people recently who think 461 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 1: he won't leave there. If he did, though, he would 462 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:39,200 Speaker 1: have no shortage of suitors lining up at his front door. 463 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:43,840 Speaker 1: All right, let's roll on, Colin. Let's talk about something 464 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 1: that I just want to revisit for a few minutes here. 465 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 1: So JT. Daniels is eligible at Georgia. And now that's 466 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:53,280 Speaker 1: led to a lot of people wondering, Oh goodness, now 467 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:56,600 Speaker 1: we've got Daniels and we got just or not Justin Fields. 468 00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:58,879 Speaker 1: We got Daniels and we got Jamie Newman. And that 469 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:02,199 Speaker 1: reminds me of this once upon a time when we 470 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:06,159 Speaker 1: had Jake from and we had Justin Fields, and lo 471 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:11,400 Speaker 1: and behold, Kirby quote made a terrible decision unquote. It's 472 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:13,879 Speaker 1: like the universal claim. Now, Kirby made a terrible decision, 473 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:16,879 Speaker 1: and he let Justin Fields get away. The rest is history, 474 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 1: all right. So I wanted to revisit this, but I 475 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:22,560 Speaker 1: don't want to do it with hindsight. I want to 476 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:25,840 Speaker 1: take you back to when this was going on. Do 477 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:28,159 Speaker 1: you remember this. You're a Georgia fan, you remember this. 478 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:30,920 Speaker 1: I'm not saying that there were there was one hundred 479 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 1: percent agreement on what was happening at the time, but 480 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:35,879 Speaker 1: I know a lot of Georgia folks. I'm from Georgia. 481 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:37,560 Speaker 1: I know a lot of my buddies who I grew 482 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:40,760 Speaker 1: up with who were Georgia fans, and the same folks 483 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:43,200 Speaker 1: who would look you in the eye today and swear 484 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 1: Kirby smart made one of the worst decisions ever to 485 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:50,000 Speaker 1: let Justin Fields get away. Back then, I remember what 486 00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:53,520 Speaker 1: they were saying. They were happy to traffic in these 487 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:59,240 Speaker 1: rumors of character issues, of some concerns off the field, 488 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 1: you know, the kind that everyone pretends they know about 489 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:04,440 Speaker 1: but no one can tell anyone in reality, just means 490 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:07,959 Speaker 1: you're full of it. But everyone was happy to traffic 491 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:11,679 Speaker 1: in those rumors back then. Translation, they were endorsing the 492 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:13,920 Speaker 1: head coach's decision. A lot of them, not all of them. 493 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:16,440 Speaker 1: A lot of people endorsed Kirby Smart's decision. Back then. 494 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:19,920 Speaker 1: Then you got the benefit of hindsight, and you got 495 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 1: the benefit that a head coach making a decision never gets. 496 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 1: You got the opportunity to see how it plays out. 497 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:28,400 Speaker 1: And it played out the way it's played out, and 498 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:31,879 Speaker 1: now we are where we are. But there's the question y, 499 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:35,040 Speaker 1: know what was Kirby Smart thinking? Well, what could he 500 00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:39,160 Speaker 1: have been thinking? Because do you remember what the circumstances were. 501 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:43,520 Speaker 1: Jacob Easton goes down Week one, twenty seventeen. Jake from 502 00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:46,560 Speaker 1: Is inserted as the starter. He's a true freshman. No 503 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:49,159 Speaker 1: one thought he was going to play that year, but 504 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:51,679 Speaker 1: he did. And so I remember that next week we 505 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:53,960 Speaker 1: went up to Notre Dame. I was on the field 506 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:55,240 Speaker 1: for that game. I loved it. It was one of 507 00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:58,080 Speaker 1: the best experiences of my life. And so they win 508 00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 1: the game and it ends up that they put a 509 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:05,320 Speaker 1: run together that takes them to overtime in the National Championship. Now, 510 00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:08,600 Speaker 1: it wasn't that Jake fromm was putting on a Joe 511 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 1: Burrow esque performance all year. That's not what their offense 512 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:15,520 Speaker 1: was asking him to do. Either. What was Kirby smart thinking? Well, 513 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:17,960 Speaker 1: think along with him? What would you be thinking. You 514 00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:20,960 Speaker 1: just had a true freshman who played your style of ball, 515 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 1: which is risk averse style, and he was only a 516 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:26,760 Speaker 1: true freshman and he just did that. So a lot 517 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:29,760 Speaker 1: of people tend to think, Okay, well he's gonna get 518 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:33,640 Speaker 1: better Like that was his floor. With his ceiling combined 519 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:36,200 Speaker 1: with the defense we're going to have in place here, boy, 520 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:37,840 Speaker 1: I mean, we're going to be really good. I don't 521 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:41,400 Speaker 1: want to upset this unless I'm totally and completely certain 522 00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 1: that someone's better. I just don't ever think they were 523 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:47,320 Speaker 1: convinced that Fields was better. It's very easy to look 524 00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:51,240 Speaker 1: at him now and to realize he had immensely higher upside. 525 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:55,520 Speaker 1: He had immensely higher physical potential. There's no way for 526 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:58,000 Speaker 1: you and I really to know unless you're truly dialed 527 00:26:58,000 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 1: in there and Kirby Smart's texting you the answer. The 528 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 1: way for you to know if there were any theory, 529 00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 1: if there was something that happened that was out of 530 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:08,320 Speaker 1: the public eye, I don't know. There always are, there 531 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:11,120 Speaker 1: a million things going on, But the point is that's 532 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:14,200 Speaker 1: how it happened. And I'm fine if you were critical 533 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:17,200 Speaker 1: at the time. I'm fine with you being critical now 534 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:21,200 Speaker 1: because you made a statement. Then what I'm not here 535 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:23,160 Speaker 1: to do is I'm not here to listen to all 536 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:25,800 Speaker 1: these folks who were on board with it then and 537 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:29,520 Speaker 1: then as hindsight proves what it proves, they go back 538 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:32,800 Speaker 1: and revisionist history is, oh, he made a terrible decision. Okay, 539 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:35,679 Speaker 1: well you were on board with it, but independent of that, 540 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:37,800 Speaker 1: forget about that. Because you're not the head coach at Georgia. 541 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:40,160 Speaker 1: He is, so he's ultimately responsible for it. And I'm 542 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:42,280 Speaker 1: not here to defend Kirby Smart. He can do it himself. 543 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:45,439 Speaker 1: But I don't think it's the craziest thing in the 544 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:49,520 Speaker 1: world to try and understand what the mentality was. You 545 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:52,640 Speaker 1: got to remember where he came from. Kirby Smart came 546 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:55,920 Speaker 1: from a place at Alabama and came from coaching under 547 00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:59,280 Speaker 1: a guy and Nick Saban, where risk aversion was the 548 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:01,480 Speaker 1: name of the game. Quarterback. Nick Saban for a long 549 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:04,440 Speaker 1: time looked at the quarterback position and said, I am 550 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:08,320 Speaker 1: not going to play a style that puts a critical 551 00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:11,720 Speaker 1: mass of the load on his shoulders, because that's just 552 00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:15,920 Speaker 1: a breaking point, that's a potentially one torn acl away 553 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:18,240 Speaker 1: from ruining my season. How About I just put a 554 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:21,600 Speaker 1: guy there who doesn't lose games, and then I build 555 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:24,200 Speaker 1: a superior roster around him and will just bludgeon people 556 00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:27,080 Speaker 1: to death. That's how Kirby Smart saw them win. Now 557 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:29,159 Speaker 1: here's what the ironic part is about. The time Kirby 558 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:31,920 Speaker 1: comes to Georgia is about the time Nick Saban's rethinking 559 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:36,840 Speaker 1: that whole philosophy. And so about that time he's recruiting 560 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:39,040 Speaker 1: a guy named Tuatongue of II Looa, and they're eventually 561 00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:42,240 Speaker 1: going to shift what they do offensively. But Kirby Smart 562 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:44,880 Speaker 1: had already had it ingrained in his DNA that that's 563 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:46,640 Speaker 1: how he was going to play it, And so he 564 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:49,040 Speaker 1: went to Georgia and started building what they have defensively 565 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:51,560 Speaker 1: now started recruiting at a high level. And when he's 566 00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:54,880 Speaker 1: trying to choose between from and fields, that's what he's 567 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:59,280 Speaker 1: asking himself. He's asking himself, what is the path of 568 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:02,120 Speaker 1: risk of version? How do I take the least amount 569 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:04,760 Speaker 1: of risk possible and still put myself in position to 570 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:08,120 Speaker 1: win a championship. I think what he misdiagnosed was the 571 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:10,960 Speaker 1: landscape is changing in this sport. And if he could 572 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:13,160 Speaker 1: have seen the future, for example, and he could have 573 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:15,240 Speaker 1: seen that he was going to be he was going 574 00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:17,200 Speaker 1: to need to be able to trade points like he 575 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:18,360 Speaker 1: was going to need to be able to do to 576 00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:20,760 Speaker 1: beat LSU last year. Of course, if he would have 577 00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:22,600 Speaker 1: been able to see the future, I think he would 578 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:25,200 Speaker 1: have made a different decision. But he couldn't see the future, 579 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:27,600 Speaker 1: and so lessons are learned. Some one of my favorite 580 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:31,720 Speaker 1: Tracy Lawrence songs lessons learned. Kirby Smart is not a 581 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:35,720 Speaker 1: thirty year veteran. One of the many aspects that have 582 00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 1: changed about this sport is whereas you used to start 583 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:42,840 Speaker 1: at Toledo and then you got a job at Illinois, 584 00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:45,040 Speaker 1: and then you got a job at Arizona State, and 585 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:47,280 Speaker 1: then you got a job at Georgia it used to 586 00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:51,000 Speaker 1: work that way, and at Toledo, no disrespect, but at 587 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:54,120 Speaker 1: Toledo you would cut your teeth there and you would 588 00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:56,280 Speaker 1: learn how to run an organization, and you would learn 589 00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:58,520 Speaker 1: how to manage people, and you would make all your 590 00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:02,640 Speaker 1: mistakes of the bright spotlight. And by the time you 591 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 1: got the big boy job, you had fifteen years experience 592 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:07,920 Speaker 1: under your belt as a head coach, and so there 593 00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:10,240 Speaker 1: were just lessons that you would already learned. It's not 594 00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:11,880 Speaker 1: the way it is for Kirby Smart, it's not the 595 00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:13,880 Speaker 1: way it is for Lincoln Riley, it's not the way 596 00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:16,440 Speaker 1: it is for several guys who are getting a shot 597 00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:18,640 Speaker 1: at a munch younger age than you used to. Well, 598 00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:23,560 Speaker 1: here's the downside. You can't microwave those lessons. You can't 599 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:25,720 Speaker 1: speed it up. You still have to learn those kinds 600 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:29,160 Speaker 1: of lessons. What you see here is Kirby Smart learned 601 00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:31,800 Speaker 1: a lesson that a generation ago he would have learned 602 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:34,320 Speaker 1: it bowling Green, but now he learned it at the 603 00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:37,680 Speaker 1: University of Georgia. That's one of the consequences. You have 604 00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:40,840 Speaker 1: many rewards for him being your head coach right now, 605 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:43,600 Speaker 1: those that's just one of the consequences, and you just 606 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:45,960 Speaker 1: deal with it and you move on. Now, the fortunate 607 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:48,920 Speaker 1: part is George is going to have several more cracks 608 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 1: at this thing. So I was talking Thursday night, and 609 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:53,760 Speaker 1: this is kind of what brought this on. I was 610 00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:55,840 Speaker 1: talking Thursday night about some of my Georgia buddies who 611 00:30:55,840 --> 00:31:01,040 Speaker 1: were saying, oh, man, like, we got now j Daniel's eligible, 612 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:03,200 Speaker 1: we get Jamie Newman, and I'm just worried it's gonna 613 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:06,160 Speaker 1: be fields from two point zero. I can tell you 614 00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:08,240 Speaker 1: Kirby Smart doesn't think that way, but no one should 615 00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:10,400 Speaker 1: be thinking that way. Even if you believe the wrong 616 00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:12,440 Speaker 1: decision was made back then, what are you gonna let 617 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:15,240 Speaker 1: one wrong decision keep you from ever putting yourself in 618 00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:19,160 Speaker 1: position to choose from two talented players. Who in the 619 00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:21,120 Speaker 1: world would think like that. I'll tell you who would 620 00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:23,120 Speaker 1: think like that. Someone who wants to go play in 621 00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:25,160 Speaker 1: the min Key Car Care Bowl. That's who would think 622 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:28,760 Speaker 1: like that. And if Monikey wants to slap their sticker 623 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:31,400 Speaker 1: on the front of this laptop, I'll apologize for everything 624 00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:33,480 Speaker 1: I just said. Let's wrap it up with this. We 625 00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:36,880 Speaker 1: had a question from Stephen. Really it was more of 626 00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:39,440 Speaker 1: a statement, and Steven said, here we go with the 627 00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:44,080 Speaker 1: Tennessee hype again. It's overblown. Tennessee cannot recruit well enough. 628 00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:46,760 Speaker 1: They don't have enough in state talent. I wanted to 629 00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:49,520 Speaker 1: address this. I think this is a pretty popular centement. 630 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:53,960 Speaker 1: People lazily, in my opinion, look at Tennessee and they say, 631 00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:57,160 Speaker 1: because they don't have enough annual high school talent in 632 00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:00,640 Speaker 1: their state. It's not Georgia, it's not Florida, it's not Texas, 633 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:04,040 Speaker 1: it's not California. Since they don't have four and five 634 00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:07,000 Speaker 1: stars on every street corner in the state, they'll never 635 00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:09,920 Speaker 1: be able to compete. Now, my philosophy with Tennessee, I'll 636 00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:11,600 Speaker 1: spell you out in a second, but let me just 637 00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:15,400 Speaker 1: dispel this myth that you have to be parked in 638 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:19,000 Speaker 1: a loaded state, loaded from the standpoint of high school 639 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:23,440 Speaker 1: football talent, in order to compete. It's garbage. Ohio State 640 00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:26,880 Speaker 1: right now is sitting on eighteen verbal commitments, six of 641 00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:30,640 Speaker 1: them are from Ohio. Alabama has twice as many kids 642 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:33,160 Speaker 1: committed from the state of Florida as they do from 643 00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:36,120 Speaker 1: the state of Alabama. Georgia signed the number one class 644 00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:39,360 Speaker 1: in the country this past cycle. Eight of twenty five 645 00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:42,680 Speaker 1: were from the state of Georgia. Clemson had the number 646 00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:45,680 Speaker 1: three team in America last year. Guys, you know how 647 00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:48,680 Speaker 1: many players in that number three class in the nation. 648 00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:51,800 Speaker 1: We're from South Carolina one and I think it was 649 00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:56,160 Speaker 1: Brenton Vinnable's kid. So what are we saying here? It 650 00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:58,760 Speaker 1: seems to not be that big a problem for these programs. 651 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,200 Speaker 1: I think it's that bigger problem for Tennessee. What Tennessee 652 00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:03,680 Speaker 1: has to be able to do is they have to 653 00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:05,840 Speaker 1: be able to have a viable product to sell. If 654 00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:08,440 Speaker 1: I'm a five star caliber defensive end, I want to 655 00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:10,920 Speaker 1: know that if I come to play for you, I 656 00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:13,320 Speaker 1: got the same opportunities there that I'm going to have 657 00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:16,600 Speaker 1: at Bama and Ohio State and Oklahoma and Clemson calls. 658 00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:18,680 Speaker 1: I got offers from them too. And what I want 659 00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:20,040 Speaker 1: is I want to know that I'm going to be 660 00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:23,560 Speaker 1: developed at the absolute highest level, and as long as 661 00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:25,680 Speaker 1: I take care of my business and keep my nose clean, 662 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:27,840 Speaker 1: you're going to put me in the best position possible 663 00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:30,760 Speaker 1: to succeed and you're going to develop me to hopefully 664 00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:33,720 Speaker 1: enjoy a future in the NFL. That's what I want. 665 00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:35,960 Speaker 1: And if you can pitch me that at Tennessee. I 666 00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:40,040 Speaker 1: don't care if I'm from Huntsville, Alabama or Chattanooga, Tennessee. 667 00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:42,240 Speaker 1: I don't care about that imaginary border. I want to 668 00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:45,160 Speaker 1: win and the reality here, and there's data to back 669 00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:47,120 Speaker 1: this up that I'm not going to bore you with tonight. 670 00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:52,040 Speaker 1: But every year we see state boundaries mattering less and 671 00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:54,280 Speaker 1: less as it relates to where kids are going to 672 00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:57,240 Speaker 1: high school. The wrong way to think about it is, 673 00:33:57,280 --> 00:33:59,600 Speaker 1: oh Tennessee doesn't have enough in state talent. They're screwed. 674 00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:03,360 Speaker 1: The right way to think about it is draw six 675 00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:06,720 Speaker 1: hour radius around Tennessee, pretend like they're in a position 676 00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,879 Speaker 1: where they can offer you everything that other programs can, 677 00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:13,200 Speaker 1: and then ask yourself, what do I find If I 678 00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:16,200 Speaker 1: draw that six hour radius around Knoxville? What do I find? 679 00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:18,360 Speaker 1: You want to know what I find. I find myself 680 00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:22,400 Speaker 1: into Ohio. I find myself up into Virginia, the Carolinas, 681 00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:26,080 Speaker 1: most of Georgia, including the state of Atlanta, which we 682 00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:29,200 Speaker 1: refer to it as for recruiting purposes, a lot of Alabama. 683 00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:31,880 Speaker 1: And to be honest with you, I'm Jeremy Pruitt, so 684 00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:33,680 Speaker 1: I can go into Mobile anytime I want to. Even 685 00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:35,680 Speaker 1: though it's not in that six hour radius, I can 686 00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:38,480 Speaker 1: also get most of Tennessee. I've got a ton of 687 00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:41,600 Speaker 1: talent in that geographical region. I don't care where my 688 00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:44,960 Speaker 1: state boundaries are. If I go into Little Rock, Arkansas, 689 00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:48,200 Speaker 1: or Charlotte, North Carolina, and I tell a kid, here's 690 00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:50,600 Speaker 1: our brand, here's my vision. You really like it, You're 691 00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:53,680 Speaker 1: attracted to it. I doubt he's saying. But you know, Coach, 692 00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:57,360 Speaker 1: I just I can't cross that state line. The reason 693 00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:59,719 Speaker 1: they're going to give you is I can't come there 694 00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:03,920 Speaker 1: because you just have not convinced me that you offer 695 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:07,799 Speaker 1: what Georgia offers. Once you overcome that, this whole in 696 00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:11,120 Speaker 1: state crop of talent, it's nice to have it. Make 697 00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:14,360 Speaker 1: no mistake, it is a luxury to be able to 698 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:17,520 Speaker 1: reside in a state like Texas or California. It's not 699 00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:21,160 Speaker 1: a necessity. Clemson's proving it right now. It's not a necessity. 700 00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:24,560 Speaker 1: Ohio State's proven it right now, Alabama's proven it right now. 701 00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:29,960 Speaker 1: It's not a necessity. What's a necessity is to if 702 00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:32,520 Speaker 1: you get to play football this year, put a product 703 00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:35,640 Speaker 1: on the field that capitalizes on the finish that you 704 00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:38,760 Speaker 1: had to last year and sells more than just a vision. 705 00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:41,680 Speaker 1: It sells at this point. Here are tangible results that 706 00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:44,480 Speaker 1: let you know we are on the same track as 707 00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:47,200 Speaker 1: these teams, and you're the kind of player and players 708 00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:48,839 Speaker 1: like you are the kind of players who can get 709 00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:51,520 Speaker 1: us over the hump. Jeremy Prewitt, feel free to use it. 710 00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:54,640 Speaker 1: I charge you nothing, my friend, because as we all know, 711 00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:57,880 Speaker 1: Jeremy Prewitt needs help from me in recruiting. If you 712 00:35:57,920 --> 00:35:59,920 Speaker 1: haven't already, please subscribe to the twenty four seventh p 713 00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:02,319 Speaker 1: YouTube channel and do me a favor. Many of you 714 00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:05,279 Speaker 1: have find the Late Kick podcast wherever you listen to 715 00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:08,080 Speaker 1: your podcast and give us a five star review. Subscribe 716 00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:10,040 Speaker 1: there too. We've had a lot of fun and we 717 00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:12,319 Speaker 1: are getting through this thing as best we can. And 718 00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:14,920 Speaker 1: we've had a ton of fun interacting with you guys tonight. 719 00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:17,120 Speaker 1: I'm sure in the comments section will be and has 720 00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:20,680 Speaker 1: been no different. So until next time, for Director Colin, 721 00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:23,520 Speaker 1: for Aaron, for Tani, I'm Josh Bate. Have a great 722 00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:25,000 Speaker 1: and safe week and God bless