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Speaker 1: My grandmother.

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Speaker 2: Club Wa got the Breakfast Club, Envy and Charlomagne the

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Speaker 2: voice of the culture.

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Speaker 3: Then I'm gona come here when this see y'all different,

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Speaker 3: y'all the culture it's different.

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Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. Like y'all know what you're talking.

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Speaker 3: This is probably becoming the most prominent form for hip problem.

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Speaker 5: Being here next to all of you guys.

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Speaker 4: It's really put it in perspective to the Breakfast Club. Bitch,

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Speaker 4: wake up. It's your time to get it off your chest.

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Speaker 4: Way up, whether you're man or bleats, time to get

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Speaker 4: up and get something.

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Speaker 6: Call up now.

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Speaker 7: Eight hundred five eighty five one O five one. We

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Speaker 7: want to hear from you on the Breakfast Club.

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Speaker 4: Hello. Who's this is?

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Speaker 8: Nasty blind?

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Speaker 4: But Hello Envy, nasty blind buck? What up? Brother? That

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Speaker 4: sounds the gross man y'all y'all don't know where your

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Speaker 4: mind nasty blinding up with.

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Speaker 8: All blind beauty?

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Speaker 9: Yeah from VA man somethtimes.

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Speaker 4: Well, how are you, sir? How's it going?

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Speaker 10: I'm good.

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Speaker 6: How y'all doing?

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Speaker 4: Man less black and Holly? Yeah? Man.

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Speaker 11: I just want to tell y'all about my podcast that

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Speaker 11: y'all got me started.

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Speaker 8: It's called three am part. Okay, Yeah, so I'm just

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Speaker 8: interviewing like a bunch of local and blind people out

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Speaker 8: there in the world that's.

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Speaker 6: Going through life andy doing different things.

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Speaker 10: So John, following me on that, I g at three

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Speaker 10: am part.

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Speaker 4: You said you you interviewing local blind people.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, local blind people and blind people. Uh, just all

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Speaker 8: over the world.

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Speaker 6: Okay, my last interview I had a blind artist up there.

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Speaker 8: He's from Maryland.

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Speaker 10: So yeah, man, I'm just interviewing everybody that's doing something.

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Speaker 6: I like that.

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Speaker 3: I like the idea of that podcast. Man, I can

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Speaker 3: I can see that work.

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Speaker 12: But there's a lot there's a lot of blind people

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Speaker 12: that that actually listen, so so how can they get

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Speaker 12: in touch with you if they want to get on

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Speaker 12: your podcast?

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Speaker 3: All right, listen following me with I g at three

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Speaker 3: am pot a brother by the way, and you can go.

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Speaker 8: On Spotify and listen to the podcast.

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Speaker 3: If you're going to lot to launch a podcasts, you

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Speaker 3: should think of a unique angle because there's so many

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Speaker 3: podcasts out there, so in order to cut through the noise,

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Speaker 3: you got to have like a unique angle, and that

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Speaker 3: is a very unique game.

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Speaker 12: I think he can get more creative with the name

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Speaker 12: what was it all three am pogast?

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Speaker 4: Oh what does that mean?

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Speaker 13: Though?

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Speaker 4: I don't know. I think you some ofem more like

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Speaker 4: let him know its blind people being interviewed. There might

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Speaker 4: be it might be should I ask them, might be

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Speaker 4: some meeting behind that. Hung up? Hello, who is this?

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Speaker 6: Good morning, Envy?

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Speaker 8: Good morning? Uh, good morning Queen.

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Speaker 13: Yeah. I just Amy, please don't hang up for me.

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Speaker 13: I got two things, man. I just want to talk

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Speaker 13: about the topic you had yesterday, man, and when he

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Speaker 13: touched me man and had my allergies acting up.

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Speaker 4: Pretty much.

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Speaker 13: When it comes to the marriage thing, I've been married

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Speaker 13: for pretty much fifteen years, been together for twenty two.

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Speaker 13: I love my queen unconditioning. I don't care what she

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Speaker 13: goes through. I'm going through that with her, and for

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Speaker 13: the most part, man. My second thing is that I

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Speaker 13: just want to shout my queen and my kids out, man,

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Speaker 13: because I never got a chance to do that last time, Envy,

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Speaker 13: And I just want to let them know that Shaun

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Speaker 13: and Sandys, TJ Tyler, to Rio and j Jo Brad,

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Speaker 13: you love y'all wholeheartedly. And every day I'm gonna strive

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Speaker 13: to be a better father, a better friend to my wife,

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Speaker 13: and it's a better person for the black community.

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Speaker 8: Man.

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Speaker 13: I just want to let y'all know, y'all make the

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Speaker 13: that our communities need people like you guys, man, because

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Speaker 13: it's a lot of negativity ill re is and one

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Speaker 13: thing I said about you guys, you put it in

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Speaker 13: perspective the way it needs to be put.

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Speaker 8: And I appreciate you.

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Speaker 13: Brothers man because every day you motivate me to be better.

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Speaker 13: You motive beat me to get my buddy go make

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Speaker 13: it happy for my family. And I just want you

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Speaker 13: to know, man, I love y'all, man, and thank you.

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Speaker 4: Hello.

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Speaker 1: Is this that's me Kanya from the Well. I'm Jamaican.

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Speaker 9: With nothing to give you guys.

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Speaker 1: New my son got absected to heart bread doctor doctory

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Speaker 1: say and guess what happened. I've been listening to you

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Speaker 1: guys for years, every morning we dragged from the Bronx

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Speaker 1: to Manhattan to suck this academy. And I've been reading

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Speaker 1: up to all the success teachers brings up to that school.

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Speaker 1: And I'm telling you, I'm so proud of my son.

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Speaker 4: I'm so proud of you.

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Speaker 9: You know what happens. Let me tell you something.

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Speaker 10: Let me tell you something.

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Speaker 1: Everybody has a story, but Charlomy always did the craziest

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Speaker 1: people from the Bronx in Florida. And I'm not even

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Speaker 1: lying to you. Tell I mean, you're returning to your opinion.

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Speaker 1: But I'm gonna tell you this. Great things is not

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Speaker 1: where you're raised their kids is how you raised them.

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Speaker 1: You understand what I'm saying. And my son put out

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Speaker 1: the most effortless work. I watched him every day, how

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Speaker 1: he goes hard, hard, really hard. And just keep his

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Speaker 1: name in your mind because he's going in for economics

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Speaker 1: and government and.

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Speaker 4: You know, we wish him the best.

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Speaker 3: May God be with him always.

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Speaker 4: That's son. The smartest people come from the Bronx. Tell Charlamagne,

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Speaker 4: the smartest people come from the Bronx.

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Speaker 1: The smartest people come from the Bronx. But we original

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Speaker 1: in Jamaican.

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Speaker 4: You know, Okay, now cut it out.

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Speaker 3: I don't want them to pull the application right because

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Speaker 3: you're acting like the fire a little too much.

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Speaker 9: No no, no, no no no no, don't do that.

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Speaker 4: Don't do that.

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Speaker 12: Happy Holidays, get it off your chest. Eight hundred five

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Speaker 12: eight five one oh five one. If you need to vent,

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Speaker 12: hit us up now. It's the breakfast Club Morning.

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Speaker 7: The Breakfast Club. This is your time to get it

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Speaker 7: off your chest. Eight hundred five eight five five one.

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Speaker 7: We want to hear from you on the breakfast Club.

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Speaker 6: Hello, who's this good morning?

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Speaker 10: Should love me from the brook.

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Speaker 4: I should have knew he was calling.

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Speaker 6: Love.

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Speaker 12: You got two brown skin women up here, and I

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Speaker 12: know you were gonna call immediately.

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Speaker 13: Yes, yes, I just want to say shout out to

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Speaker 13: them because I don't like to see my queens go.

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Speaker 4: At it so that browns go grand.

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Speaker 6: I'm glad they grinded that out.

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Speaker 8: I know Charlamagne tried to get him.

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Speaker 4: To go at each other. Not true and love.

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Speaker 12: He calls all the time, ladies because he has a

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Speaker 12: thirteen and a half inch penis.

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Speaker 4: You ain't even have to say that.

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Speaker 14: Guy.

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Speaker 4: Fact that you said that, it's silly because you don't

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Speaker 4: have to.

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Speaker 1: Say that, I know somebody number you start calling like thirteen.

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Speaker 4: You ain't even have to say that, I have nothing

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Speaker 4: to do with other. Just let him know.

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Speaker 13: I'm glad you let him know.

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Speaker 6: Okay, okay, all right, I love you.

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Speaker 3: You never go on, and then y'all be wondering why

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Speaker 3: people be saying stuff about men all of God. Damn,

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Speaker 3: that's how you present Hi, I'm love You have a

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Speaker 3: thirteen inch penis. Here you go, Hey, this is my

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Speaker 3: friend love you. He got a thirteen inch penis.

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Speaker 4: I did not say love. He was my friend. He

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Speaker 4: called introduced him.

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Speaker 6: And he calls all the time.

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Speaker 4: Yes, he calls. That's how thirteen and a half already,

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Speaker 4: that's about it when he calls. So it's kind of

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Speaker 4: like his brain here.

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Speaker 6: Is his calling hard all right, figeral check it out?

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Speaker 4: So she said it's true.

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Speaker 6: So I don't know.

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Speaker 12: You gotta ask how she check it out?

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Speaker 4: Hello, Hello, playing, this is.

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Speaker 13: My name is.

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Speaker 11: Thank you good. I'm upset with my job because we

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Speaker 11: just got worried that they are closing down.

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Speaker 4: Spotify.

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Speaker 10: Damn, No, I.

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Speaker 11: Worked in Westchester County. It's an RTC. I don't want

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Speaker 11: to say, but it's it's the RTC, you know what

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Speaker 11: that is?

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Speaker 6: The residential treatment set us.

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Speaker 11: So it's just like a bad time for like just overall,

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Speaker 11: it's never a good time to get laid off. But

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Speaker 11: it was no transparency, you know, with us, and they

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Speaker 11: knew they were going down, but they just never you know,

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Speaker 4: It's like, lo, yeah, I'm sorry, mama.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, they just they're just a bunch of snakes over

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Speaker 11: there and right.

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Speaker 12: By the hot right during the holiday season too.

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Speaker 4: That really is exactly sorry about that. So yeah, sorry

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Speaker 4: to hear that, queen. That's awful.

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Speaker 6: Yeah it is.

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Speaker 11: But I'm looking to like going to some other things

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Speaker 11: as far as like ducking the contract. I'm the definitely

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Speaker 11: go hard on that.

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Speaker 4: You want to put your cash out out there, just

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Speaker 4: you know, just in case.

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Speaker 14: I mean I can, but not of you know, mind

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Speaker 14: now money, never mind, don't you worry about it?

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Speaker 4: Don't you worry about it? Don't you worry about it?

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Speaker 6: Okay, no no no.

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Speaker 4: No, no no no no, I don't even worry about it.

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Speaker 11: What's your petty self?

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Speaker 4: That's right, that's right, Go ahead, put it out there.

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Speaker 10: Mama's dollar sign neb and easy A les l e

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Speaker 10: Z twenty one.

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Speaker 4: Now you're in west Chester, you're locks fan, oh big time?

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Speaker 11: And Mary maybe underneath my window in the project.

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Speaker 4: So you're going to the show. Hold you said, Neva

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Speaker 4: lens n e v a l.

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Speaker 11: E d Neva les So you're going, yeah me, put

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Speaker 11: my name out there.

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Speaker 4: I'm sorry, popped up on your cash. I'm gonna send

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Speaker 4: you a little just for lunch today. That's all all right,

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Speaker 4: thank you.

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Speaker 11: I appreciate that.

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Speaker 4: If you got it, you got it. I just sent

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Speaker 4: it to you. Sounds sweet. And you said you was

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Speaker 4: Mary J. Blige. Auntie. I gotta I gotta fit Mary

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Speaker 4: set up under your window on the project. That's the Auntie.

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Speaker 6: You know, you'll be Auntie the person next door.

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Speaker 11: Thank you, guys, jumpy, half a good week and be blessed.

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Speaker 6: All right, you have holiday.

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Speaker 4: I'm sweet, Thank you. Get it off your chest.

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Speaker 12: Eight hundred five eight five one o five on if

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Speaker 4: It's the Breakfast Club Morning, the Breakfast Club. More than

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Speaker 12: Charlamagne the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. We got

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Speaker 4: I see he got his Morgan State. Really bro, really bro,

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Speaker 15: Oh man, brother, good morning, good morning, good morning, good morning.

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Speaker 4: How y'all doing? Explain this to me? I know that

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Speaker 4: the Hampton Howard rivalry, but what's Morgan State.

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Speaker 15: So every HBCU thinks it's the greatest HBCU that has

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Speaker 4: But then the other ones still feel like they are

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Speaker 15: So you have that Howard Hampton thing on more House

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Speaker 4: You know, fam you thinks it's Morgan State.

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Speaker 15: And know this, I love those institutions, great institutions who

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Speaker 4: But then nines, watch your mouth. Yeah, Morgan State.

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Speaker 12: I was gonna go to Morgan State because that's the

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Speaker 4: You know your argument. Let me tell you I was

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Speaker 12: I was gonna go to you know, we go to

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Speaker 12: Morgan Howard vs U Virginia and then Hampton Hampton, right,

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Speaker 12: and I went to Morgan State. I remember it like

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Speaker 15: Oh no, you didn't just be cause y'all got that

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Speaker 4: Little campus.

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Speaker 12: And then you know what I seen on my dad scene,

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Speaker 4: Thing as Queens. Why are you gonna leave Queens to

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Speaker 4: come to Baltimore. That's the school you want.

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Speaker 15: To play craps on the steps, That's what men need

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Speaker 6: As soon as I seen.

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Speaker 4: The crowd, like this is the place for me.

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Speaker 15: This is definitely the place for me to get a degree.

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Speaker 15: I was perfect made five years. Then five years served

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Speaker 15: didn't five, No, I did. I did my five and

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Speaker 15: I was an r a man. I did everything you

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Speaker 15: could do at school. I was the mascot want semester.

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Speaker 15: I needed a gym credit. Okay, I needed a gym credit.

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Speaker 4: They was like, you wanna go live weights or you

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Speaker 4: bear outfits I was.

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Speaker 15: I was the most DC bed he ate I had

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Speaker 4: Listen Charlamne, it was a raggedy suit.

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Speaker 15: At the time, we didn't have the funding to get

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Speaker 15: a new mascot out for At that time, mortgage State

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Speaker 15: was going through something so they gave me the old

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Speaker 4: So I used to rock whatever.

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Speaker 15: The bed would come out rocking fresh new bus, new

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Speaker 4: He fresh, whoever, the freshest man we ever had.

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Speaker 3: Honestly, if you walk on the HBCU campus and rolling

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Speaker 4: Like, this is the same thing I seen in Queen's

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Speaker 4: and I don't want my kid, you know, rolling craps.

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Speaker 6: But that was so what it is.

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Speaker 4: We wasn't rolling craft. That was a probability study.

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Speaker 15: You wasn't your father, It wasn't your pops, wasn't here.

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Speaker 15: That was just a probability study in the engineering the park.

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Speaker 12: Now let's talk about what's going on here and Morgan

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Speaker 12: right now Morgan State, you know there was a shooting

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Speaker 12: there recently. You guys have canceled the homecoming and there

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Speaker 12: was a lot going on. So have you reached back

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Speaker 12: I know you're big when it comes to giving back

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Speaker 14: So I was.

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Speaker 15: Supposed to actually host our homecoming gala, which is the

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Speaker 15: biggest fundraiser of the year. I hosted Gaily years shirt

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Speaker 15: you know, Tuxedo out, and that got postponed to December

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Speaker 15: the eighth. The official homecoming got canceled, but Black people

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Speaker 15: Homecoming went on as playing. Oh they were still party.

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Speaker 15: They called it because the homecoming got canceled. Brunch because

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Speaker 15: the homegum got canceled. Day party because the home So

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Speaker 15: we you know, you have thousands of people who were

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Speaker 4: After the shooting. You had mothers.

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Speaker 15: There was a group of mothers who got together who

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Speaker 15: didn't have kids in school, who came up just to

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Speaker 4: Who needed a mom.

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Speaker 15: If you need a hug, if you need to ask

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Speaker 15: so while the tragedy happened, and you know, our prayers

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Speaker 15: there's also this gigantic push of solidarity, this gigantic push

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Speaker 15: gonna stand together to shake off some of the old

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Speaker 15: reputation and move in a new positive way. When things

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Speaker 15: the we're a new Morgan thing. So we came out

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Speaker 4: That's why I've been I've been orange and blue since

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Speaker 15: You know, my kids are walking around with the hats

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Speaker 15: and everything else, and I'm screaming it out as much

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Speaker 15: as I possibly can these institutions. You know, I don't

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Speaker 15: have to come on here and preach to you what

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Speaker 15: an HB means for our community. So you know, at

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Speaker 15: this time in my life, I'm happy to be able

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Speaker 15: to be there for my school. Whatever they need. They

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Speaker 15: call me for anything, if the you just need anything.

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Speaker 15: My five brothers need anything, they hit me up and like,

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Speaker 4: Do you think they should have canceled on coming.

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Speaker 15: I think it was a good call by doctor Wilson

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Speaker 15: if he didn't cancel this. Black Mama ain't canceling. It's

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Speaker 15: a tragedy. So he did the smart thing. He did

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Speaker 15: the thing that someone in academia should do. Let's cancel this.

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Speaker 15: Everybody else, though, we went and partied and everybody had

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Speaker 4: Times, all the events around homecomings.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, none of that. You ain't.

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Speaker 4: You ain't canceling rare essence.

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Speaker 15: You ain't canceling the go go because you know, you're

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Speaker 15: not even supposed to have a go go in Baltimore

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Speaker 15: in the first place. So the fact that you got

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Speaker 15: a go go in Baltimore or we coming and you're

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Speaker 15: not canceling that you can't have go go in Baltimore.

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Speaker 15: It's too old Baltimore.

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Speaker 4: Most of the country doesn't really doesn't know that.

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Speaker 15: There is a unspoken rivalry between the African American community

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Speaker 4: They got their own language, and so we have two.

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Speaker 15: We grew up with two different like you said, culches,

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Speaker 15: different accents, music, food, we did, way we dress and

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Speaker 15: the and the like. So when I got to Baltimore,

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Speaker 15: there was no go go, but soever you did not

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Speaker 15: don't even don't even bring that up in Baltimore now

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Speaker 15: because of I think because of the twenty thirty years

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Speaker 15: alliances in the city. My wife is from the West Side. First,

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Speaker 15: let me say that my wife is from the West

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Speaker 17: Hold on ah ha jaa, No, you haven't had some

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Speaker 17: of that that old baita she served. She's got a

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Speaker 15: And so I think that there's there's this slowly but

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Speaker 15: surely there's there's an alliance that has been coming between

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Speaker 15: I won't say this is an alliance, but the hard

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Speaker 15: rivalry that we have that goes on. I think it's

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Speaker 15: the stupidest thing ever. I think that the two communities,

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Speaker 15: African American communities in those major cities. D C's a

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Speaker 15: major city, Baltimore's a major city.

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Speaker 6: I think we need to come. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Is there anything that brings you all together? I would

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Speaker 3: think like comedy, right, because I think your comedy underrated.

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Speaker 3: Comedy is an underrated comedy scene in Baltimore, DC because

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Speaker 3: you got Dave, you got Donall so here just hilarious.

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Speaker 15: So here's how we feel about that. The same applies.

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Speaker 15: So it's like this growing up. Anything coming out of Baltimore,

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Speaker 15: you just automatically X. And if you in Baltimore, anything

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Speaker 15: coming out of DC, you just automatically X. Nadi, you

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Speaker 15: don't know them. I learned that from my.

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Speaker 4: Baltimore goons. What's up with y'all? I ain't saying no names,

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Speaker 4: what's up with y'all? But I know some straight goods.

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Speaker 4: And you know Baltimore, you know the why it was real.

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Speaker 15: Let's let's let's keep let's keep it the buck, the

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Speaker 4: It's serious. It's very very serious.

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Speaker 15: So it's gonna take thirty forty years for that alliance

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Speaker 15: to pop off. We're talking about black folks who are

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Speaker 15: setting their ways. Black folks are very very slow to change,

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Speaker 15: and unless you have a reason to change, a very

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Speaker 4: When we come back with Kicking It with Joe Claire,

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Speaker 4: So don't move. It's the Breakfast Club, Good Morning, the

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Speaker 4: Breakfast Club porting everybody.

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Speaker 12: It's DJ n V, Charlamagne the guy. We are the

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Speaker 12: Breakfast Club. But kicking it with Joe Claire, of course

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Speaker 12: from Rap City.

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Speaker 4: Charlomagne.

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Speaker 3: Another thing too. I was watching the doc. Man, I've

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Speaker 3: always loved the interview you did with Big. That's that's

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Speaker 3: the iconic INTERVIGI, And I knew that was Big.

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Speaker 4: I couldn't. I knew that was big last interview. It

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Speaker 4: think sway might have been his last. He was going,

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Speaker 4: he went and did the radio. Now, did y'all shoot

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Speaker 4: that in La? Shot it in La? That's what we

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Speaker 15: Stage and they were shooting the hypnotized video. The dance

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Speaker 3: Always wondered, were you concerned for your safety shooting at

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Speaker 3: East coast, West coast beef and all of that.

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Speaker 15: I'm concerned for my safety every day, so my head

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Speaker 15: I just know, like doing Rap City, the thing that

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Speaker 15: I knew was when you go to somebody hood, when

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Speaker 15: you go to a city, you abide by they rules.

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Speaker 15: You shut your mouth, don't start no shit, won't be

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Speaker 15: no tea. So Nah, I didn't have any extra concerns

447
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Speaker 15: for my safety that day. We had plenty of security.

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Speaker 15: ANIMI civilian y.

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Speaker 13: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Then I sit and I do the interview.

451
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Speaker 15: It's a great day season Junior Mafia right behind us,

452
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Speaker 15: the dancing girls over there.

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Speaker 6: Of course.

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Speaker 4: Then he said, you want to smoke something to day

455
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Speaker 4: just got better.

456
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Speaker 15: I'm not a smoker, but if you're gonna smoke with somebody,

457
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Speaker 15: you're gonna smoke with Biggie Smoke. So I had to

458
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Speaker 15: catch a red eye that night because I was going

459
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Speaker 15: out on the Deaf Comedy Jam tour. This was the

460
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Speaker 15: first night, so I had to fly home Wednesday. After

461
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Speaker 15: getting the interview, pack my bags, get on the tour

462
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Speaker 15: buses coming from Kid and pre Little Jersey coming down

463
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Speaker 15: to DC, pick me up and then we drive to Dallas.

464
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Speaker 15: We do the show in Dallas. The next night we

465
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Speaker 15: go to Houston. Do the show in Houston.

466
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Speaker 4: Had a ball and three thirty four o'clock in the morning,

467
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Speaker 4: Kid called my.

468
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Speaker 15: Phone, like yo, they say, Biggie guys shot you know

469
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Speaker 15: it's four o'clock in the Morning've been out drinking, like whatever,

470
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Speaker 15: you know, it's just some more hip hop here say book.

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Speaker 6: Then my girlfriend at the time called me.

472
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Speaker 4: She was like, they say, Biggie guys shot. Let me

473
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Speaker 4: turn on headline news. Y'all remember headline News.

474
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Speaker 15: Then every half hour, first story rapper Christopher Wallace has

475
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Speaker 15: gunned down.

476
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Speaker 4: At this point, the interview wasn't out. Interview's not out.

477
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Speaker 15: I just was this is Sunday morning. I just dead Wednesday.

478
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Speaker 15: This is Sunday morning at six in the morning. So nah,

479
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Speaker 15: no interview out. They ain't get time to try. They

480
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Speaker 15: still in la party and just those next couple of weeks,

481
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Speaker 15: when I got to reflect on it, I realized I

482
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Speaker 15: was just numb because Tupac had just died and now

483
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Speaker 15: Biggie got killed.

484
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Speaker 4: I was like, we cannot be that dumb?

485
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Speaker 3: Are we?

486
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Speaker 4: Black folks were really not that stupid?

487
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Speaker 10: Are we?

488
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Speaker 4: Is this who we are? Time has shown that. Unfortunately

489
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Speaker 4: It's sad.

490
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Speaker 8: It was.

491
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Speaker 4: It was one of those times Charlemagne and Envy where

492
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Speaker 4: I really just I'm very us.

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Speaker 15: I was like, man, I man a lot of that,

494
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Speaker 15: so a lot of the like hanging out and I

495
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Speaker 15: just did not want to do like because I don't

496
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Speaker 15: know what you on. And then and I watched cats,

497
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Speaker 15: I knew some of the most righteous dudes. Next thing

498
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Speaker 15: I know, he he come with the chain and he

499
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Speaker 15: gotta get his swag together.

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Speaker 4: You you, you've been made since you was nineteen years

501
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Speaker 4: and ten years old. You've been made. You've been a man.

502
00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:02,840
Speaker 4: I know your family, I know what you staying on.

503
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Speaker 4: You switching up because you think this is what the

504
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Speaker 4: coach a dog man my head up and has colored

505
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Speaker 4: how I see us. Since then, nothing has changed your

506
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Speaker 4: mind about it.

507
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Speaker 15: I mean remember, leading up to that, I sat in

508
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Speaker 15: the middle of the East Coast West Coast thing every week,

509
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Speaker 15: every day, every rapper's got something to say about the

510
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Speaker 15: other coast.

511
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Speaker 4: Is that what made you start saying the East Coast

512
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Speaker 4: West Coast worldwide? I took it straight from the Lost Boys.

513
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Speaker 15: Yes, we really need to we really need to do

514
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Speaker 15: this big shout out to Mac ten and Fat Joe

515
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Speaker 15: because I don't know if you guys remember they did

516
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Speaker 15: a movie Thinking and Water Up something like that. And

517
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Speaker 15: then and Fat Joe realized and Fat Joe used to

518
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Speaker 15: be coming up to this show like man that I'm

519
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Speaker 15: keeping a flame going on this East.

520
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Speaker 4: Coast West Coast. After that, I see Joe and he's like, naw,

521
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Speaker 4: they cool.

522
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Speaker 15: And then you used to see mac ten and Mactin

523
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Speaker 15: like nah they cool, They're super cool. And then you

524
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Speaker 15: found out it really wasn't the East Coast versus. It

525
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Speaker 15: was the media making in and it was Park against

526
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Speaker 15: Biggie and they used to be best friends, and now

527
00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:05,040
Speaker 15: we're looking at really just came down. The two best

528
00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:09,159
Speaker 15: friends fell out. Now they have other influences, and that

529
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Speaker 15: just got bigger and bigger and bigger.

530
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Speaker 4: Control.

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Speaker 3: You know, we have conversations on the Breakfast Club that

532
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Speaker 3: have ended up confrontational. Did y'all have any of those

533
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Speaker 3: on Rap City that y'all?

534
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Speaker 8: Y'all?

535
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Speaker 4: The only person who ever like tried to sum me?

536
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Speaker 4: He sum me one time.

537
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Speaker 15: It was my first live taping and I'm interview on

538
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Speaker 15: Pete Rock and cl Smooth, my heroes.

539
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Speaker 4: My I know they album back to, backward and forward.

540
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Speaker 4: I know everything. I know every syllable of that album.

541
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Speaker 4: So it's like five four three two go.

542
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Speaker 15: I'm like, hey, it's Rap City, Joe play Hea blah

543
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Speaker 15: blah blah blah blah blah blahn do my thing, So

544
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Speaker 15: what's up with you, and then I don't get nothing

545
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Speaker 15: from cl He's pretty so then the cameras cut off.

546
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Speaker 4: He's like, Yo, son, you mad extra. I said, what

547
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Speaker 4: what you mean? He's like yo over the top, he

548
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Speaker 4: like mad extras. Yo, bring it down a little little bit.

549
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Speaker 4: Five four three two. All right, challie man, Joe clar

550
00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:07,760
Speaker 4: here on't rap City. I got bigger end for me.

551
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Speaker 15: I took it as a vet somebody who was in

552
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Speaker 15: the industry showing me what he thought I should be.

553
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Speaker 4: No skin off my you know that's what you think

554
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Speaker 4: I should be already know Joe Cliar And if it's nothing,

555
00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:22,760
Speaker 4: I know joke. I know what Joe clet do. And

556
00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:32,160
Speaker 4: I stayed extra for five years. I appreciate y'all this conversation.

557
00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:34,560
Speaker 4: Oh man, And we just let me get there's a

558
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Speaker 4: few things I like to get on my chest. Make

559
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Speaker 4: sure you follow.

560
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Speaker 15: Make sure you follow me at Joe Claire on all

561
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Speaker 15: social media platforms. If you are in the d m

562
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Speaker 15: V watch me every day at three o'clock on Fox five.

563
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Speaker 15: It's called the d m V Zone. I am on

564
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Speaker 15: news every day and it's you'll see it when you

565
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Speaker 15: tune in. And other than that, just follow your boy, Matt,

566
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Speaker 15: when you got your next shows. I do my own

567
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Speaker 15: shows monthly play at a spot called Bowie in Bowie, Maryland.

568
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Speaker 15: So we do a comedy show in Bowie. Very intelligent,

569
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Speaker 15: uh well to do black crap. So I love going

570
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Speaker 15: in there. We got heavy hitters coming through each and

571
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Speaker 15: every month. So just you can just check the schedule

572
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Speaker 15: there and then let me see. I'll be at the

573
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Speaker 15: Joe Claire dot Com.

574
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Speaker 8: Just go that.

575
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Speaker 4: Just gonna thank you. Well, it's Joe Claar, ladies, and

576
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Speaker 4: you make sure you watched the Rap City dot Ye see,

577
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Speaker 4: it's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, the Breakfast Club. Your

578
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Speaker 4: mornings will never be the same morning.

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Speaker 12: Everybody's DJ n V Charlamagne the guy we are the

580
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Speaker 12: Breakfast Club. He got our special guest co host Cappuccino here,

581
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Speaker 12: of course from Power ninety nine out in Philly. So

582
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Speaker 12: we're asking eight hundred and five eight five, one oh

583
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Speaker 12: five to one. Dingo is a gentleman that calls all

584
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Speaker 12: the time on the Breakfast Club during Get It Off

585
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Speaker 12: Your Chest. And he called this morning about his weekend

586
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Speaker 12: and this is what he said.

587
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Speaker 10: I unsplew this girl out this past week here it

588
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Speaker 10: was white I ain't gonna lie.

589
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Speaker 6: It was whack.

590
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Speaker 10: Shout out to Kendrick G. I was all hers show

591
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Speaker 10: a couple of weeks back there. You know what I'm saying,

592
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Speaker 10: put up my little my little spiel pass some shorties

593
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Speaker 10: hit me up. It was cool on one that you know,

594
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Speaker 10: I decided to fire her out, just having some good

595
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Speaker 10: conversation because she was from Atlanta, right, So I got

596
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Speaker 10: her out.

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Speaker 4: We was chilling.

598
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Speaker 10: We was talking. I pay for everything right, take care

599
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Speaker 10: of her, take care of the arrangements, took caret a hotel.

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Speaker 4: Took care ofthing we did.

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Speaker 10: But she wasn't really giving me the vibes that it

602
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Speaker 10: was trying to be romantic. It seemed like she was

603
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Speaker 10: just looking for a trick.

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Speaker 4: Tyler, No, no, no, no.

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Speaker 8: We talked.

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Speaker 10: We talked for like a good two weeks or so,

607
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Speaker 10: probably to her coming out right, and we could up

608
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Speaker 10: a startled there like hey, like you know, you don't

609
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Speaker 10: you don't want to do nothing like that. That's cool.

610
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Speaker 10: You just got to let me know before I spend

611
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Speaker 10: all this money you're making, all this arrangements that you

612
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Speaker 10: see me, I feel like that's it because you're coming out,

613
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Speaker 10: you're flying out and I'm taking care of everything. And

614
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Speaker 10: I told you that, right, and you get here and

615
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Speaker 10: you're like, oh, I ain't. I ain't trying to be

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Speaker 10: on that, which is cool. I get that. That's fine.

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Speaker 8: But called me up.

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Speaker 12: So we're asking eight hundred five eight five one oh

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Speaker 12: five one, ladies, what makes you not want to hook

620
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Speaker 12: up with a guy?

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Speaker 4: All right? He said? He you know, I guess they

622
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Speaker 4: had a discussion. He thought it was gonna get cheeks.

623
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Speaker 4: He thought the vibe was there and he got nothing.

624
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Speaker 4: He was upset about it. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I think that's a very important question to ask, because

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Speaker 3: we never asked that when we had these uh, you know,

627
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Speaker 3: conversations about women flying out. Because a woman gets on

628
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Speaker 3: a plane, clearly she wants to go. She gets there,

629
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Speaker 3: clearly she wants to be there. But something happens once

630
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Speaker 3: they meet the individual that turns them off.

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Speaker 4: I just wonder what it could be.

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Speaker 12: I'll be honest, did you ask the woman in the room, No, lady,

633
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Speaker 12: I'm not speaking for lady, but I will say this.

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Speaker 12: I don't think and shot the Dingo he calls all

635
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Speaker 12: the time. I don't think Dingo had a real conversation

636
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Speaker 12: about the vibe, because how can you have that conversation Kelly.

637
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Speaker 3: Flew you out? Did y'all have a conversation before him?

638
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Speaker 3: When all Kelly flew you out and left you sitting

639
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Speaker 3: in the hotel room? Did y'all have a conversation before hid?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 12: We were doing a mixtape. Okay, yeah, we were doing

642
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Speaker 12: a mixtape. I wasn't expecting nothing, neither was he. Everything

643
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Speaker 12: mixtape was understood. But I'm saying, like, how do you

644
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Speaker 12: have that conversation? Hey, I'm gonna fly you out. I'm

645
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Speaker 12: ana smash, like, you can't have that conversation. That's why

646
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Speaker 12: I know they didn't have that conversation.

647
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Speaker 4: I mean you can't these days.

648
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Speaker 18: You know, everyone's bowling up front about stuff, So that

649
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Speaker 18: conversation's probably had.

650
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Speaker 4: But as Charlemagne said, you know when you get there

651
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Speaker 4: in person, things change, or what change your mind? Cappuccino.

652
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Speaker 4: If I'm down, you're not married?

653
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Speaker 18: If you're married, right, yeah, If I'm down with Smashing, cool,

654
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Speaker 18: But you know, if you drop your pants and something

655
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Speaker 18: just ain't.

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Speaker 4: Right, you know, it's like, oh, you mean too small that?

657
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Speaker 18: Or maybe if I see some stains going on, it's like, oh,

658
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Speaker 18: you know, the the the self care ain't there.

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Speaker 12: You know, that could be one thing, So maybe a

660
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Speaker 12: small dingo or some doodles things or something.

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Speaker 3: I would think the guy might be too thirsty too,

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Speaker 3: because even if you know that you and the young

663
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Speaker 3: lady's supposed to get it in, you don't got to

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Speaker 3: act like that the whole time.

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Speaker 18: I think she'll know from jump when he says I'm

666
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:53,200
Speaker 18: gonna fly you out and we're gonna do all this,

667
00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:55,160
Speaker 18: that alone tells me you're a bit thirsty because you

668
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:57,280
Speaker 18: don't even know me. We only been talking for two

669
00:28:57,360 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 18: weeks and you're gonna fly me out and everything. It's

670
00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:02,920
Speaker 18: no holds bart type situation. Hey, that's a little thirsty.

671
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:04,080
Speaker 18: It's a little thirsty.

672
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:06,600
Speaker 4: Let's go to the phone lines. Hello, who's this? Hello?

673
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 16: Hid Shade from Columbia, South Carolina.

674
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:12,120
Speaker 4: What's happening? Talk to a shade?

675
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:12,800
Speaker 9: What's going on?

676
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:15,960
Speaker 14: Is?

677
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:19,320
Speaker 16: My thought is is that you know, she could have

678
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:21,880
Speaker 16: just not felt the vibe a lot of times the

679
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:24,800
Speaker 16: way we date now, everybody talk and check so much,

680
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:28,360
Speaker 16: and you're able to manipulate your personality that when you

681
00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 16: get in front of each other, nobody has nothing to say.

682
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,240
Speaker 16: And he could have been arguing and she could have

683
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:36,760
Speaker 16: been like I was. But nah, it's no different than when.

684
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:37,760
Speaker 9: We dated in the nineties.

685
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:41,000
Speaker 16: Once you start interacting with each other, it's like, yeah,

686
00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 16: this is not what I thought it was gonna be.

687
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 4: It was you ever got flown out?

688
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:48,440
Speaker 16: I have and I've had that happen before too.

689
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 4: From Columbia.

690
00:29:52,320 --> 00:30:02,000
Speaker 12: No, no, okay, okay, And and what happened. He didn't

691
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:02,960
Speaker 12: look the way he was supposed to look.

692
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 16: It's not about look, it's a personality. It's like you

693
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:08,840
Speaker 16: talked so much during that timeframe that when you get

694
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:11,040
Speaker 16: in front of each other, you don't have nothing to

695
00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:11,760
Speaker 16: really ask.

696
00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:13,920
Speaker 9: There's nothing to engage each other in.

697
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:15,120
Speaker 4: So, Shae, how does that work?

698
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:17,160
Speaker 12: He flies you from South Carolina in the Vegas So

699
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 12: y'all staying in the same moom and you dumb false.

700
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:21,200
Speaker 4: It's not like you could turn around right then and there.

701
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:22,240
Speaker 6: So what do you do?

702
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:23,760
Speaker 11: I thought in the trooth?

703
00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:26,240
Speaker 4: Oh, so y'all slept in the same being. But yeah,

704
00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 4: that was it.

705
00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:27,520
Speaker 8: That was it.

706
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:29,520
Speaker 4: He ain't try to rub up or hump on your.

707
00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:32,760
Speaker 16: Nothing, right, of course they tried, But I mean it's

708
00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:34,160
Speaker 16: time my fault. You killed the moon.

709
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:36,920
Speaker 4: Okay, all right, that's right.

710
00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:37,840
Speaker 9: Exactly.

711
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 4: Thank you. We got CC on the line, c C.

712
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:44,400
Speaker 4: Good morning, one wing, how y'all one, But so, c C,

713
00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:45,400
Speaker 4: what's your thoughts, Mama?

714
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 9: I feel like this it's multiple things.

715
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:50,560
Speaker 16: But they said they were talking for two weeks, so

716
00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:54,000
Speaker 16: it maybe she got there and his bibles off or different.

717
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:56,200
Speaker 5: Maybe you know, people are different and hurt.

718
00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:58,920
Speaker 16: I saw some women just like to be promistic, and

719
00:30:59,040 --> 00:30:59,520
Speaker 16: he must have.

720
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:01,240
Speaker 4: Knew that what she.

721
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:07,760
Speaker 3: Women don't want to feel like something is just transactional.

722
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:09,880
Speaker 3: You paid for a flight, you paid for some food,

723
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:10,400
Speaker 3: you paid for.

724
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:12,160
Speaker 4: Me for a room. Now I'm just supposed to give

725
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:14,560
Speaker 4: you something like maybe she don't want to feel like that. Process.

726
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:16,560
Speaker 4: You don't want feel like process. That's right. We got

727
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:18,680
Speaker 4: we got a brother on a lot, Eddie. Yeah, what's

728
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:20,880
Speaker 4: going on and he's looking at this different eddie. What's

729
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:21,280
Speaker 4: your thoughts?

730
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:21,920
Speaker 5: Yeah?

731
00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:24,600
Speaker 8: Man, So I know for a fact, man, chicks just

732
00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 8: be using dudes. Man then lie to you whatever, you know,

733
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:30,640
Speaker 8: just to get flown out for the food or whatever.

734
00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:33,720
Speaker 8: I mean where I'm from, girl through that all the time.

735
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 8: My cousin sisters whatever, they'll they'll go chill with a dude,

736
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:39,440
Speaker 8: go out because they know they gonna get them drunk

737
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 8: and eat and then you know they gone on their way.

738
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 4: So does that does that not make the guy a

739
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:46,040
Speaker 4: suck of that? If you know?

740
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 8: Because at the end of the day, if you really play,

741
00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 8: you you still get her. I mean that's what you're

742
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:53,880
Speaker 8: there for, you doing and meet and greet her. If

743
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:55,520
Speaker 8: you get her and you really play it, I mean

744
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 8: you should be a turner.

745
00:31:57,360 --> 00:31:59,080
Speaker 3: I just understand what get her to come mence with

746
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:01,880
Speaker 3: you just meeting greet on the first trip, you know

747
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, and have her wanting to come back,

748
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:06,040
Speaker 3: you know, and then maybe on the second or third

749
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:06,960
Speaker 3: time y'all.

750
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:08,480
Speaker 4: You know, y'all might get it in. Like why you

751
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:09,800
Speaker 4: got to force it on the first trip.

752
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:14,200
Speaker 8: I like that kis right, And sometimes it'd be like that.

753
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:15,960
Speaker 8: As long as you have a good time you go

754
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:18,959
Speaker 8: out to eat, y'all lave have some giggles. I mean,

755
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:22,120
Speaker 8: what's wrong with that? Next time, y'all can do that through.

756
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:24,200
Speaker 8: If not, wait till the next time. I mean, hey,

757
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 8: all right, sometimes you gotta wait for that cake.

758
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:30,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, the real thing to do. And don't ask me

759
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:32,480
Speaker 4: because I'm a retire player, so I don't know anything

760
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 4: about this. But you fly her out.

761
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 3: Y'all have a good time, y'all kick it, love, you know, love,

762
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:39,600
Speaker 3: eat all that good stuff. Maybe the next time y'all

763
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:40,880
Speaker 3: had such a good time, you be like, y'all want

764
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:43,080
Speaker 3: to come see you. Now you fly out to her.

765
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:46,400
Speaker 4: Okay, but what I mean is he expected expecting her

766
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:47,600
Speaker 4: to pay for that flight.

767
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:49,360
Speaker 3: I'm gonna fly on my own dime, you know what

768
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:50,680
Speaker 3: I mean, Just because I had such a good time

769
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 3: with you the first time. I guarantee you you play

770
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:54,960
Speaker 3: it like that, you fly to see her, You're probably

771
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:56,480
Speaker 3: gonna get what you was looking for the first time.

772
00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 4: Kids. Now, yay, good.

773
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:01,160
Speaker 9: Morning, kids, now, good morning, good morning.

774
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:03,480
Speaker 12: Now we're asking eight hundred and five eighty five one

775
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 12: oh five one. Ladies, what makes you not want to

776
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:08,040
Speaker 12: give a guy something or or not want a vibe

777
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:08,600
Speaker 12: off guy?

778
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,600
Speaker 9: Talk to us honestly, if they was talking from the

779
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:14,520
Speaker 9: floor and they already lined it up, that mother took

780
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:16,120
Speaker 9: herself out the drawers.

781
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:17,280
Speaker 10: Okay.

782
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:20,600
Speaker 9: Sometimes men talk themself out the drawing. They talk too much,

783
00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:23,400
Speaker 9: talking too fast, okay, And the might of his boys

784
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:23,960
Speaker 9: was wide.

785
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:29,560
Speaker 4: I feel like you definitely the bron Okay. I can

786
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 4: hear it in your throat. She said, Brooklyn.

787
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:33,200
Speaker 10: I'm a Brooklyn girl.

788
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:36,960
Speaker 9: But to be honest, then really talk theyself out the drawers.

789
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:39,200
Speaker 9: Sometimes you'll be like, yeah, when I get over there,

790
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:40,480
Speaker 9: it's gonna be orange.

791
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:41,120
Speaker 4: Get there.

792
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:45,720
Speaker 9: He's like just clown. Like my mother says, every man

793
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:48,280
Speaker 9: you sleep with is your potential baby for the You

794
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:50,080
Speaker 9: probably didn't want to waste o coolchie on him.

795
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:55,560
Speaker 4: No, but what she's saying is real. And I was walking, Yeah,

796
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:58,320
Speaker 4: I wish guys I was guys like that, and women.

797
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 9: Thought, like every man you sleep with is your potential

798
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 9: baby for the girl. That would have been eighteen years

799
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 9: of battle. Luck you say, leave that. It's not that silly.

800
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:08,799
Speaker 9: Five minutes for eighteen years of.

801
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:10,319
Speaker 6: Stuff for a That's right.

802
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 3: As the fire con said, the way that people treat

803
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:15,440
Speaker 3: the science of breeding is like you rolling dice in

804
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:16,760
Speaker 3: the back of a moving pickup.

805
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:19,880
Speaker 4: True, Bobby's mad. This is the last called Bobby. You mad? Hi,

806
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:21,759
Speaker 4: Bobby No.

807
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:26,960
Speaker 5: I just think people's expectations be kind of crazy. Only

808
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:30,040
Speaker 5: knowing somebody after two weeks and flying out and expecting

809
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:33,760
Speaker 5: them to pay for everything, but you're not returning the favor.

810
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:36,360
Speaker 5: It's kind of crazy to me. Clearly, y'all are not serious.

811
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:39,759
Speaker 9: Che Yes, I would have gave.

812
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:42,120
Speaker 3: Him some seed just because you slew you out and

813
00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:45,359
Speaker 3: paid for some food. Just because he flew you out

814
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:46,640
Speaker 3: and paid you paid for some food.

815
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 4: She's from the.

816
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:50,280
Speaker 9: Bronx, I mean, the fool if he took her shopping

817
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:50,680
Speaker 9: or whatever.

818
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 4: I mean.

819
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:53,080
Speaker 5: My thing is, though, if you're allowing a man to

820
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:56,160
Speaker 5: pay for your plane ticket, for your the residency, for

821
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:59,439
Speaker 5: your food, from clothes, and all of that for getting

822
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:02,839
Speaker 5: in return, Like, how do you not to expect something

823
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:03,400
Speaker 5: and rehearch?

824
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:06,400
Speaker 18: It might be my conversation, he's getting my company, Bobby's

825
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:07,320
Speaker 18: giving the cheeks.

826
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 5: Okay, But if the conversation was had prior that he's

827
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:13,400
Speaker 5: not flying you out just for some company, then you know,

828
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 5: then there's a problem.

829
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:17,800
Speaker 3: I respected, I respect it. I just don't think a

830
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:21,080
Speaker 3: man should have you know, that expectation And why do

831
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 3: all that? I'll just get you a prostitute from the city,

832
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:25,320
Speaker 3: Like why are you flying in stuffdy?

833
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:26,800
Speaker 9: Maybe she flying?

834
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:29,759
Speaker 5: Maybe he can't find somebody that's fly in, so got

835
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:30,800
Speaker 5: to fly me.

836
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 6: Where are you from, Bobby, I'm from Cali?

837
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:36,239
Speaker 12: Okay, Well, Bobby, we're gonna hook you up with didn't go,

838
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:39,319
Speaker 12: He's gonna fly you out all.

839
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:44,799
Speaker 4: Bobby Jesus. It was just actually mad because of how

840
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:46,880
Speaker 4: much money he spent. He didn't set a limit for himself.

841
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:48,520
Speaker 4: I think at the end of the day, that's why

842
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:49,480
Speaker 4: he's upset. He said.

843
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:51,960
Speaker 3: He felt like a g He said, over g what's

844
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:53,600
Speaker 3: the mother of the story? I just don't think you

845
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:55,680
Speaker 3: should expect nothing from nobody, you know what I mean.

846
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:57,920
Speaker 3: I think even if you fly that person out, you

847
00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:00,600
Speaker 3: should just fly that person out with the expect that

848
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:03,840
Speaker 3: y'all gonna have a good time whatever that good time entails.

849
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 3: God bless, but just have a good time. Don't have

850
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:09,440
Speaker 3: no expectation of what you think that good time is

851
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:10,920
Speaker 3: going to because that good time might not be what

852
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 3: you want it to be.

853
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 4: And that's ending with some cheeks because she may have

854
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 4: had a good time. That's right, he just didn't. Damn

855
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 4: all right. It's the Breakfast Club on BT, the Breakfast

856
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:23,360
Speaker 4: Club wanting everybody.

857
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:26,960
Speaker 12: It's DJ MV Charlamagne to God. We are the Breakfast Club.

858
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 3: Now.

859
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:29,320
Speaker 4: We got some special guests in the buildings. Yes, indeed,

860
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:32,239
Speaker 4: some legends, some icons. Of course, we got the roots,

861
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:36,480
Speaker 4: black thought and quest Love Welcome everybody is black from

862
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 4: the roots. They've been up here before.

863
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:41,960
Speaker 12: And we got another icon that's never been up here before,

864
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:45,480
Speaker 12: the legendary icon LLL cool J.

865
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 4: Welcome Queen. It's first time, first time LL stand for

866
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 4: a living legend. At this point, I appreciate that absolutely, absolutely.

867
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:56,399
Speaker 12: So let's first start with you know, why you guys

868
00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 12: are here together, because people are like, well, why is

869
00:36:58,520 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 12: ll and the Roots together?

870
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:02,319
Speaker 4: So you guys are going on the road on the tour. Yeah,

871
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:04,880
Speaker 4: So how did this saw it come about? Whose version?

872
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:09,320
Speaker 2: Well, I may really ensure and ensure you know, the

873
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 2: Planet Center stars sort of aligned themselves and made it

874
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:16,920
Speaker 2: possible for us to work together on this huge segment

875
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:19,279
Speaker 2: that we did for the Grammys this year. And I

876
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 2: think you know from that the idea of us always

877
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:24,799
Speaker 2: haven't wanted to, you know, work together in some way,

878
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:29,160
Speaker 2: just you know, it opened the collaborative path and it

879
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:30,920
Speaker 2: was like, Yo, why don't we try to take this

880
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 2: show on the road.

881
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 4: It was huge. What we did just in that one

882
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:36,440
Speaker 4: fifteen minute segment was so huge for the culture.

883
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:39,960
Speaker 2: And you know, this being hip hop's fiftieth anniversary and

884
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:42,919
Speaker 2: you know, that whole that that whole deal. It made

885
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 2: sense to try and you know, do something celebratory in

886
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 2: that way. You know, from region to region.

887
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:51,359
Speaker 12: Now, ladies love cool James, what got you into hip

888
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:52,880
Speaker 12: hop and said, you know what I want to be

889
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 12: emc Where where did the love come from? As a

890
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 12: kid from Queens and say this is what I want

891
00:37:57,640 --> 00:37:57,759
Speaker 12: to do.

892
00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 19: You know, when those first wave of tapes came aroun

893
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:04,200
Speaker 19: like you know Cole Crush Brothers and Fantastic Romantic Five

894
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:08,040
Speaker 19: and Foursome Seeds and Treacherous Three, you know, Grand Master,

895
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 19: Furious Five and all of those groups, when they were

896
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:14,239
Speaker 19: just tapes running around, you know, Haarlem World tapes, and

897
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 19: then the songs came later.

898
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 4: That was the first time that I heard young black

899
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:19,280
Speaker 4: kids sounding powered.

900
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:21,719
Speaker 19: It was the first time that I heard or could

901
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 19: envision us doing something great because before that, all the

902
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:28,319
Speaker 19: images I had seen were us like handcuffed beet putting

903
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:31,279
Speaker 19: a police car or some sort of charge or you know.

904
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 19: So that empowering feeling, you know, the braggadocio thing that

905
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:39,319
Speaker 19: you know that we really focused on came not from

906
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 19: a place of looking down on high on people, but

907
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:44,799
Speaker 19: more about I could be somebody, you know what I'm saying.

908
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 19: The world looks at me and like I'm invisible. My

909
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:49,840
Speaker 19: friends up the block get killed and nobody says anything.

910
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 19: So when I'm bragging and I'm boasting, what I'm really

911
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:54,759
Speaker 19: doing is saying, hey, look at me, I exist, you

912
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:57,440
Speaker 19: know what I'm saying. So for me, that was a

913
00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:00,400
Speaker 19: real special thing and a spectaclic thing. And I'm eight,

914
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:02,399
Speaker 19: I'm nine years old. I'm ten years old, and I'm

915
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 19: being introduced to this thing and I just completely fell

916
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 19: in love with it. And then you know, eight nine,

917
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 19: I'm a fan of the wrap. My grandfather broughts me

918
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 19: some equipment. At eleven, I'm DJing. I'm messing around with that,

919
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:14,279
Speaker 19: but I'm still rhyming, and I'm going back and forth.

920
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:17,360
Speaker 19: And then you know, eventually one thing led to another

921
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 19: and here we are death Jam and the whole whole nine.

922
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:22,839
Speaker 3: Do you consider yourself a founding father of hip hop?

923
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:25,719
Speaker 3: You know, people always gonna say, you know, cool her.

924
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:27,560
Speaker 3: You know, grandma has to flash people like that. But

925
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:29,560
Speaker 3: as far as hip hop as we know now, I

926
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:30,960
Speaker 3: would say you and run DMC.

927
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:31,480
Speaker 4: Yeah.

928
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 19: So so I'm you know, I'm definitely generation one point five.

929
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:37,240
Speaker 19: You know what I'm saying. You got to give Flash

930
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:40,600
Speaker 19: and HERK and Force and all them grab what's the

931
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:44,400
Speaker 19: theodore They're do. The thing that myself from Run DMC did.

932
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:46,279
Speaker 19: What we did is we took it to the world.

933
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:48,200
Speaker 19: We took it global, you know what I'm saying. We

934
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 19: took it from the city and took it around the world,

935
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 19: you know what I'm saying. And that was the difference.

936
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 19: So they they brought it, they took it from from

937
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 19: the Bronx and Harlem out to the Five Boroughs and

938
00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:02,879
Speaker 19: you around the world somewhat, they didn't penetrate the market

939
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:05,960
Speaker 19: quite as deeply. Then we took it and made it global.

940
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:09,880
Speaker 2: And I think I think from from a Philadelphia standpoint too,

941
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:13,680
Speaker 2: you know, just from the outside looking then with that

942
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:17,040
Speaker 2: one point five generation with you and all this like

943
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:19,719
Speaker 2: Running d that was our first time.

944
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:22,160
Speaker 4: Sort of seeing our own reflection exactly.

945
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 2: It was like you know, like again, I was a

946
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:26,759
Speaker 2: huge fan of all the other founding fathers, but they

947
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:29,239
Speaker 2: didn't look like people from around my way, you know

948
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. And when I saw a run jam

949
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:33,480
Speaker 2: Master j L, they looked like the corner boys, like

950
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:36,160
Speaker 2: that was outside and I saw myself in that.

951
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:37,800
Speaker 4: So you know that that's where a lot of the

952
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:39,960
Speaker 4: inspiration for me to do what I do came from.

953
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:42,479
Speaker 4: Not to mention you know Ella.

954
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:47,239
Speaker 14: You know l was very modest, but LLE literally invented

955
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:49,600
Speaker 14: what I call post miner and hip hop, like the

956
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 14: three minute rap song sixteen bar like before L even

957
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:57,280
Speaker 14: run DMC's first out, Like it's like that's like eight minutes,

958
00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:00,480
Speaker 14: like seven verses, you know what I mean. Like LLL

959
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:04,919
Speaker 14: literally invented the sixteen you know, maybe the twenty fourth

960
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:07,360
Speaker 14: the course you know what I mean, Like, oh the

961
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 14: song that's courses on it. So I love rap, Yeah,

962
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 14: like literally emotions on right. Like he's he's pioneered for

963
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:19,400
Speaker 14: like so many things that he never gets credit for.

964
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:22,040
Speaker 14: He was like the first teen idol, the first Like

965
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:24,200
Speaker 14: there's so many first with him that you just you

966
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:26,520
Speaker 14: take it for granted. So I was gonna ask when

967
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:29,480
Speaker 14: you you talked about deaf Jam, So let's talk about that.

968
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:31,920
Speaker 14: When they when they came to you with a contract

969
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 14: to sign. Do you remember what your first contract looked

970
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:36,600
Speaker 14: like and how much they gave you. Yeah, well, I

971
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:38,920
Speaker 14: mean talk about that. You know, you got to remember

972
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:40,680
Speaker 14: that deaf Jam was a production company.

973
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:43,920
Speaker 19: There was no label, Okay, It's Yours by Tila Rock

974
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:46,879
Speaker 19: was on Party Time street Wise label. It was Deaf

975
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:50,120
Speaker 19: Cham Productions, which was Rick was the producer along with

976
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 19: Jazzy Jay, and it was more than a contract.

977
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 4: They were actually forming a label.

978
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 19: Rick was having a problem, you know him, and he

979
00:41:57,239 --> 00:41:59,279
Speaker 19: was having problems getting his money from from the other

980
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:01,719
Speaker 19: label he was with, so they wanted to start this

981
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:04,400
Speaker 19: new thing. So you know that first contract at the

982
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:08,040
Speaker 19: time we split the publishing, they gave me like fifty thousand.

983
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:11,080
Speaker 19: But before that, actually, my first single I ever made,

984
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:12,759
Speaker 19: I didn't have a contract. When I made I Need

985
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 19: a Beat, which was the very first song I ever made,

986
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:16,919
Speaker 19: I had no contract. It was just like, yo, let's

987
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:18,840
Speaker 19: just get it and we'll figure it out. You know

988
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:21,359
Speaker 19: what I'm saying. Sometimes you gotta be willing to crawl

989
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:23,120
Speaker 19: over the barbed wide fence with no shirt on, you

990
00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 19: know what I'm saying, to get what you want.

991
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:32,440
Speaker 6: With no shirt on.

992
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:33,960
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, By the end of this,

993
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:39,840
Speaker 4: I might have one hundreds I'm already. That was what

994
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:42,319
Speaker 4: it was. And you know how old were you at

995
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:45,680
Speaker 4: this point? Sixteen? I was sixteen when I mean yeah,

996
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:47,680
Speaker 4: when we started Death jam I was sixteen. Did you

997
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:49,960
Speaker 4: ever feel like you should have had like equity and depth?

998
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:50,200
Speaker 14: Jam?

999
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:52,719
Speaker 19: I did have equity in death Jam. I did have

1000
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:54,719
Speaker 19: equity and death Jam. I just sold it a little early.

1001
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:58,240
Speaker 19: But I definitely had ownership in death jam ownership in Fuoble.

1002
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:01,520
Speaker 19: I have ownership and yea I asked Los Angeles ownership

1003
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:04,160
Speaker 19: and damn lip sync battle, I have you know, I

1004
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 19: own my catalog.

1005
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:08,279
Speaker 4: So the things that I do, you know, I did well,

1006
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:10,879
Speaker 4: But I didn't do it for the money. And where

1007
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:12,400
Speaker 4: did you get the business mind from? Was was it

1008
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 4: your mom's? Was it you know, an uncle?

1009
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:14,759
Speaker 14: Like?

1010
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:16,320
Speaker 4: Where did you get that? Because I don't think a

1011
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 4: lot of people were thinking ownership back then. They were

1012
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:19,160
Speaker 4: just thinking I need to blow up.

1013
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 8: You know what?

1014
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:21,320
Speaker 4: You know what I've learned? Man? You know, like and

1015
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:23,120
Speaker 4: people may have heard me say this before.

1016
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:24,960
Speaker 19: You know, if a homeless man tell you not to

1017
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:27,360
Speaker 19: do push ups some traffic, you should listen because you

1018
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:28,160
Speaker 19: might get ran over.

1019
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:30,319
Speaker 4: A lot of times people are like yo, another one yo.

1020
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 4: A lot of people are like yo, you homeless? What

1021
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:33,080
Speaker 4: do you know?

1022
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:39,400
Speaker 19: Like all right brown today in the news. Right, So

1023
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:42,520
Speaker 19: the business thing I learned from people before me and

1024
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:45,239
Speaker 19: after me. Now what the Monica ladies love cool j?

1025
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 4: Right?

1026
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 12: Did you always feel like these dudes are gonna think

1027
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:49,759
Speaker 12: I'm sweet? So I'm gonna I have to have these

1028
00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:52,160
Speaker 12: these rhyms in the corner just in case.

1029
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:53,640
Speaker 4: The ladies love.

1030
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:55,920
Speaker 19: Cool Jay thing was just wishful thinking. Yeah, you know,

1031
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:58,319
Speaker 19: I'm fifteen on one girls ladies love cool Jack?

1032
00:43:58,520 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 4: Right.

1033
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:01,800
Speaker 6: It was really manifest.

1034
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:06,759
Speaker 4: Not being true. It didn't have to be that like

1035
00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:08,920
Speaker 4: people took that a little. It just kind of worked out.

1036
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:14,560
Speaker 4: I have ill cool Jack.

1037
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:16,319
Speaker 6: I hope you know what I mean.

1038
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:18,880
Speaker 4: But you never rebelled against the sex symbol image. I

1039
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:21,759
Speaker 4: saw no like it. I mean, look, I made I

1040
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:23,480
Speaker 4: need love because I like girls.

1041
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 14: I made like rock the Bells because I like the

1042
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:28,759
Speaker 14: do the hard for me growing up, I like girls, right,

1043
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:31,440
Speaker 14: So putting I need love out me doing love songs

1044
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:33,800
Speaker 14: is the equivalent of me walking into projects with a

1045
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:34,680
Speaker 14: next full of jury.

1046
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:37,920
Speaker 19: It's the same thing. The strength isn't doing what you

1047
00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:40,759
Speaker 19: want to do artistically. That's the way the strength is.

1048
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:43,560
Speaker 19: I do what I want to do artistically. I don't

1049
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:46,399
Speaker 19: do what they say I should do, because then I'm

1050
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:49,200
Speaker 19: not being me. I'm fronting I'm being somebody else, right,

1051
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:51,520
Speaker 19: So I think that you know, and I just say

1052
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:55,000
Speaker 19: just a lot of young men in general, never limit

1053
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:58,360
Speaker 19: yourself to the perception of what other people think you

1054
00:44:58,440 --> 00:44:58,800
Speaker 19: should be.

1055
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:02,080
Speaker 4: Don't limit your to that be yourself, right. We got

1056
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:04,400
Speaker 4: more with L cool J in the Roots when we

1057
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:05,359
Speaker 4: come back, don't move.

1058
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:08,040
Speaker 12: It's the Breakfast Club the Morning Morning everybody is DJ

1059
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:11,239
Speaker 12: Envy Charlamagne, the god we are the Breakfast Club is

1060
00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 12: still kicking it with LL cool J in the Roots,

1061
00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:15,759
Speaker 12: does that have a baldy with both of y'all that

1062
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:18,200
Speaker 12: you know, yell are so legendary and hip hop, but

1063
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 12: people might not look at.

1064
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:21,200
Speaker 4: You as a rapper. They might just look at you

1065
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:22,799
Speaker 4: as an actor, or people might not look at.

1066
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:25,560
Speaker 12: Y'all as the Roots as in a group, but just

1067
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:27,920
Speaker 12: the guys we're being for to night with people, the

1068
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:29,160
Speaker 12: younger generation especially.

1069
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:32,480
Speaker 2: No, I think I think there's value in that we've

1070
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 2: been able to reinvent ourselves in a way that our

1071
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 2: brand has had, you know, different iterations, different complete just lives.

1072
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:42,120
Speaker 2: So the fact that yeah, we've been on you know

1073
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:44,480
Speaker 2: TV every day for the past fifteen years, it's a

1074
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:47,680
Speaker 2: whole demo. They only know us from that, so that

1075
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:50,200
Speaker 2: leaves a whole new space for them to explore when

1076
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:52,439
Speaker 2: they discover our body at work. And then there's people

1077
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:54,800
Speaker 2: who've been die hard fans of you know, L and

1078
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:57,560
Speaker 2: the Roots forever who may have lost track of our

1079
00:45:57,680 --> 00:45:59,200
Speaker 2: musical contributions along the way.

1080
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:02,080
Speaker 4: So I just appreciate the chance to sort of keep

1081
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:03,240
Speaker 4: reintroducing myself.

1082
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:05,040
Speaker 2: Me and Elle was just talking about how, you know,

1083
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:06,920
Speaker 2: you just pop out every now and then as an

1084
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:09,600
Speaker 2: artist to shut it down with those little, you know,

1085
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:12,120
Speaker 2: not not so general reminders, you know what I'm saying,

1086
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 2: And you're good, and that's sort of how we navigate

1087
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:14,440
Speaker 2: the space.

1088
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:16,640
Speaker 19: And you know, the way I look at it is

1089
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:19,120
Speaker 19: it's just an opportunity, you know what I'm saying. It's

1090
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:21,279
Speaker 19: a beautiful opportunity to put you up on something new.

1091
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:23,560
Speaker 19: And if you don't know, to come find out, come

1092
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:25,160
Speaker 19: to the show, you know what I'm saying. That's why

1093
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:27,279
Speaker 19: we're on tour. You can come see some music. It's

1094
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:30,560
Speaker 19: multi generational, you know, just like the festival multi generational.

1095
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:32,920
Speaker 19: So come out to the tour, come to the fourth tour,

1096
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:34,719
Speaker 19: see what we're doing. You know what I'm saying, Get

1097
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 19: put onto something new It's that simple. You know what

1098
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:38,680
Speaker 19: I'm saying. If you don't know, come find out.

1099
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:41,040
Speaker 4: Is it true that Jimmy Fallon is paying the staff

1100
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:41,560
Speaker 4: out of pocket?

1101
00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:41,839
Speaker 14: Why?

1102
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:45,040
Speaker 4: Y'all straight? That's a question my check. Let me check

1103
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:46,120
Speaker 4: my account right now.

1104
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:48,479
Speaker 6: That I got like nineteen other jobs.

1105
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:53,719
Speaker 4: It's not like you know, no one knowing is getting paid.

1106
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 8: Uh.

1107
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:56,399
Speaker 4: After that, that's kind of a myth.

1108
00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:58,959
Speaker 12: I was gonna ask, was there any at any point

1109
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:01,719
Speaker 12: of any of your lives lose love for hip hop?

1110
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:04,799
Speaker 12: Maybe it was the sound change, maybe it was wasn't

1111
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:06,879
Speaker 12: received the right way, or maybe it was I'm getting

1112
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:07,440
Speaker 12: money over here?

1113
00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:09,440
Speaker 4: Was there any time at that at all?

1114
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:10,200
Speaker 10: For me?

1115
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:13,200
Speaker 4: No, because I'm getting money over here has nothing to

1116
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:14,120
Speaker 4: do with love and hip hop.

1117
00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:16,760
Speaker 19: I don't make rap music and do hip hop culture

1118
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:18,879
Speaker 19: and rock the bells and all this to make money

1119
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:19,800
Speaker 19: to survive.

1120
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:22,759
Speaker 14: Well, I will say that, you know, there's times if

1121
00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:26,239
Speaker 14: you're creative and your passion turns into your livelihood, that

1122
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:28,720
Speaker 14: sometimes you might have to leave it for a second.

1123
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:30,360
Speaker 4: I mean, there definitely been moments where.

1124
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:34,200
Speaker 14: Like you know, like he and I put since ninety three,

1125
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:38,120
Speaker 14: probably somewhere between one hundred and fifty to two hundred

1126
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:41,080
Speaker 14: shows a year, you know what I mean from ninety

1127
00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:43,399
Speaker 14: three up until like when we start FOU in two

1128
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:45,799
Speaker 14: thousand and nine. Like our lives was on a tour

1129
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:48,800
Speaker 14: bus and you know, the grass is always green on

1130
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:52,320
Speaker 14: the other side. And so during the tonight show allowed

1131
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:55,880
Speaker 14: us especially to see what other magical powers we had,

1132
00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:57,960
Speaker 14: like I didn't know, like, oh, I can write books.

1133
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:02,960
Speaker 14: And both of us are professors at NYU. You know,

1134
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:05,359
Speaker 14: he wrote a play, I did a movie and all

1135
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:10,600
Speaker 14: those other things. So small team man, not more than sports,

1136
00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:12,799
Speaker 14: just curious, like we're I think all of us are

1137
00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:16,480
Speaker 14: creatives and that's that's the thing, Like we're creatives that

1138
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:20,239
Speaker 14: are discovering that sometimes our talent is transferable to.

1139
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:24,360
Speaker 4: Other mediums in avenue like Tarik, he's a better cook.

1140
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:28,680
Speaker 14: That's I'll put him against any three micheline star chef

1141
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:30,360
Speaker 14: or black grandmother.

1142
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:36,280
Speaker 2: About now for real, Like he's the king Gordon Ramsey,

1143
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:41,960
Speaker 2: you wanted to smoke. Now he's getting up before m

1144
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:44,560
Speaker 2: You know, I think I catered. I catered for the

1145
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:46,800
Speaker 2: Boost other night. Yeah, I brought a bunch of grubs

1146
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:49,560
Speaker 2: to the up to rock the bell. So I mean

1147
00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:50,799
Speaker 2: you're going to tell him what I brought, you.

1148
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:53,680
Speaker 14: Know what I'm saying, Yes, everything from crab Legs to

1149
00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:58,280
Speaker 14: lobster to kylein greens to like his cookie.

1150
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:00,359
Speaker 4: But that's what I'm saying, like his creativity. Check all

1151
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:01,640
Speaker 4: the box you left.

1152
00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:02,879
Speaker 13: Yeah.

1153
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:06,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, the chillers, Oh, I love the chillers on the grill.

1154
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:11,560
Speaker 4: A moment in your careers where y'all questioning things though.

1155
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:14,080
Speaker 2: You know, yeah, definitely there have been many moments, uh,

1156
00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:18,000
Speaker 2: you know where I've questioned you know, myself and where

1157
00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:20,320
Speaker 2: we've questioned ourselves, you know, I mean as a collective,

1158
00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:23,480
Speaker 2: and you know, in those moments of pause, that's when

1159
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:24,919
Speaker 2: you're able to answer the call.

1160
00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:27,120
Speaker 4: And I think, you know, you just get those versts

1161
00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:28,000
Speaker 4: of of clarity.

1162
00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:29,759
Speaker 2: And it's been a blessing that we've been able to

1163
00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:32,160
Speaker 2: reinvent ourselves, you know, because yeah, you know, I just

1164
00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:34,480
Speaker 2: like I was saying, I would be making music. I

1165
00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:38,680
Speaker 2: would be writing songs and you know, creating art, whether

1166
00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:41,080
Speaker 2: I was able to you know, support myself and my

1167
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:44,120
Speaker 2: family off it or not. So it's it's a blessing,

1168
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:46,160
Speaker 2: like you know, I mean, the plus is that I'm

1169
00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:48,719
Speaker 2: also able to make a career out of it, you know,

1170
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:50,560
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. But yeah, there have been times that

1171
00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:52,839
Speaker 2: I've questioned, you know, like what the next chapter will

1172
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:54,800
Speaker 2: look like or what the next you know, sort of

1173
00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:57,560
Speaker 2: act like three of my career, you know, am I

1174
00:49:57,600 --> 00:50:00,400
Speaker 2: gonna be able to swing another? You know, reinvent is

1175
00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:02,320
Speaker 2: those moments when you sort of listen to the universe

1176
00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:05,839
Speaker 2: and you go with your heart and things become more clear.

1177
00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:08,440
Speaker 19: I mean, yeah, listen, man, There's always gonna be a

1178
00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:10,920
Speaker 19: time in life where you have doubts and you have concerns,

1179
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:14,440
Speaker 19: and you have insecurities, and you feel like uncomfortable or

1180
00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:18,160
Speaker 19: discomfort about certain things. But like Tarik said, you know,

1181
00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:21,760
Speaker 19: answering that call and following your intuition, following that small

1182
00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:22,600
Speaker 19: voice inside of.

1183
00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:24,200
Speaker 10: You and go for it.

1184
00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:27,279
Speaker 19: You know, you can't be fearful in life. You can't

1185
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:29,680
Speaker 19: be scary, and you the person that has to be

1186
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:31,000
Speaker 19: able to you have to be able to trust the

1187
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:33,080
Speaker 19: most is yourself. And you have to be able to

1188
00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:37,880
Speaker 19: trust yourself in moments when you are susceptible to fear

1189
00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:40,320
Speaker 19: and weakness and you just have to find that strength

1190
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:41,160
Speaker 19: and keep moving through.

1191
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:44,800
Speaker 12: You have times have been challenged and you throw shots,

1192
00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:47,080
Speaker 12: whether it's mo d back in the day cannabus or

1193
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:49,520
Speaker 12: people even say, oh, have you ever ran into the

1194
00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:52,680
Speaker 12: people that you've ever had a lyrical sparring? And is

1195
00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:54,719
Speaker 12: it all jokes and fun now or is it still

1196
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:56,080
Speaker 12: like standoffish?

1197
00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:59,360
Speaker 4: No, ain't no standoffish man, that's the spot. Okay, there's

1198
00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:02,239
Speaker 4: no time. I mean some dudes. Look, everybody is different, man,

1199
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:05,719
Speaker 4: some people, you know, it really bothers them, like you know,

1200
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:11,840
Speaker 4: some people as like post Jack the Ripper, right or

1201
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:12,840
Speaker 4: post how you like me?

1202
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:16,200
Speaker 14: Now? Like were you and mod ever in the room

1203
00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:19,239
Speaker 14: together at any of that those periods like I walked

1204
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:21,800
Speaker 14: out on stage of this concert before like I'm crazy,

1205
00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:24,000
Speaker 14: Wait what there was no there was no social media.

1206
00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:27,880
Speaker 6: Man, yeah we see each other.

1207
00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:28,520
Speaker 8: We laugh.

1208
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:32,640
Speaker 4: When you walked out with nothing, that's ridiculous.

1209
00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:37,959
Speaker 6: Kind of pioneered the rap, yes, well.

1210
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:41,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, but then with cannabis, you know what

1211
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:44,359
Speaker 4: I mean, have y'all left y'all focus? Brought them out

1212
00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:46,960
Speaker 4: at Barclays when I perform. Remember that's right, you know

1213
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:48,600
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. You know, I see you and I

1214
00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:49,360
Speaker 4: see pictures.

1215
00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:51,040
Speaker 14: I mean, yeah, we got the you know we're doing

1216
00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:53,560
Speaker 14: We've got things we're doing now together You know what

1217
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:55,399
Speaker 14: about you and what was what was you in whole?

1218
00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:57,080
Speaker 3: But I never understood that one either. That felt like

1219
00:51:57,160 --> 00:51:59,880
Speaker 3: just ego. I really, I honestly couldn't tell you, bro,

1220
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:02,480
Speaker 3: I have no idea. All I know is it's all love.

1221
00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:04,040
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Like you know, it's we

1222
00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:07,600
Speaker 3: gucci like for real, like you know, you know, listen, man,

1223
00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:10,239
Speaker 3: does a conversation make things great or just over time?

1224
00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:12,120
Speaker 3: It just you realize it wasn't really about nothing.

1225
00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:13,880
Speaker 12: They said you at the time that you didn't like

1226
00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:15,400
Speaker 12: him as president or death ya, and that's where they

1227
00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:16,160
Speaker 12: said it came from.

1228
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:25,920
Speaker 4: Dude. Next question, is it a question? Y'all in the

1229
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:33,400
Speaker 4: old street stuff and the stuff like yeah, next question,

1230
00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:34,719
Speaker 4: I tell you like this.

1231
00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:36,640
Speaker 19: I tell you like this man. You know, at the

1232
00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:38,960
Speaker 19: end of the day, I got love for everybody. You

1233
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:41,520
Speaker 19: know what I'm saying. I just want to do great things.

1234
00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:41,880
Speaker 3: You know.

1235
00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:44,080
Speaker 19: As a matter of fact, I think there's a part

1236
00:52:44,080 --> 00:52:45,960
Speaker 19: in the show where I actually get into this stuff

1237
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:49,040
Speaker 19: a little bit with a freestyle. So you know, people

1238
00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:50,560
Speaker 19: should just come to the show and check it out

1239
00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:51,880
Speaker 19: and hear how I address it.

1240
00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:53,880
Speaker 4: I will keep a lock. We got more with LL

1241
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:56,520
Speaker 4: and the Roots. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning morning everybody,

1242
00:52:56,800 --> 00:52:58,040
Speaker 4: EJ n V.

1243
00:52:58,280 --> 00:53:00,640
Speaker 12: CHARLAMAGNEA God, we are the Breakfast This club was still

1244
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:02,760
Speaker 12: kicking it with ll cool J in the Roots.

1245
00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:05,719
Speaker 3: Che How do y'all feel about lists? Because Billboard had

1246
00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:07,919
Speaker 3: y'all ranked number ten group of all time?

1247
00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:10,800
Speaker 4: Really yeah, Lla As.

1248
00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:14,239
Speaker 3: You ranked number fourteen of the top rappers ever and

1249
00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:18,120
Speaker 3: you coined the term goat. But for some reason your

1250
00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:21,279
Speaker 3: name doesn't always get put in those goat conversations?

1251
00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:21,640
Speaker 4: How did that?

1252
00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:24,200
Speaker 14: Because he's too good? People can never look at it? Well,

1253
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:26,000
Speaker 14: you know, you know, I guess I just got to

1254
00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:27,719
Speaker 14: do something about it. You know, I guess that just

1255
00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:29,600
Speaker 14: means I got some work to do, you know what

1256
00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:31,319
Speaker 14: I mean. I guess that's what it means.

1257
00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:32,960
Speaker 19: I mean, I could sit here and come up with

1258
00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:35,359
Speaker 19: a thousand different excuses, but at the end of the day,

1259
00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:37,520
Speaker 19: I guess my job is to change that narrative.

1260
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:41,359
Speaker 4: So yeah, to be continued for me, man Like, I'm

1261
00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:42,920
Speaker 4: not you know, I'm fine.

1262
00:53:43,120 --> 00:53:46,280
Speaker 2: Like Whoever, when I do fall like on those lists,

1263
00:53:46,719 --> 00:53:50,080
Speaker 2: it's always, you know, just an honor to be held

1264
00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:51,400
Speaker 2: in the company that I'm held in.

1265
00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:52,080
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying?

1266
00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:54,200
Speaker 2: It's never any other artists on those lists that I

1267
00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:57,200
Speaker 2: don't feel, you know, deserve it, but you know where

1268
00:53:57,239 --> 00:53:59,840
Speaker 2: you rank. I think that you know it's relative and

1269
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:02,440
Speaker 2: think that you know it varies from person in person,

1270
00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:03,880
Speaker 2: different folks opinions.

1271
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:06,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know, I'm I'm a force to be reckoned with.

1272
00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:10,319
Speaker 4: I know everybody know that I'm fine with it, you know. Yeah.

1273
00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:12,000
Speaker 19: And you know the other thing I would add is

1274
00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:14,600
Speaker 19: that I think this is an overused term, but in

1275
00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:15,720
Speaker 19: my cases, I'm different.

1276
00:54:16,239 --> 00:54:18,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know what I'm saying. Fact, I really am.

1277
00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:22,160
Speaker 19: So it's like if they don't understand, like how much

1278
00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:24,360
Speaker 19: I changed the world, if you wasn't there, you just

1279
00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:27,200
Speaker 19: don't understand that. Like you have to remember that just

1280
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:29,839
Speaker 19: with death Jam alone. Name the artists that will signed

1281
00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:30,959
Speaker 19: the Death Jam over time.

1282
00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:43,520
Speaker 4: Name five. So let's stop right there. Right.

1283
00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:45,800
Speaker 19: So I'm the first artist on Death Jam. It was

1284
00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:48,320
Speaker 19: a production company, Tela Rock. I'm the first artist. I

1285
00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:49,960
Speaker 19: put the label on my back and I got us

1286
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:51,040
Speaker 19: the distribution deal.

1287
00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:51,480
Speaker 4: With my album.

1288
00:54:52,840 --> 00:54:56,959
Speaker 19: What are we talking about? What are we really talking

1289
00:54:56,960 --> 00:55:00,520
Speaker 19: about it? Like, so that's putting the work into be

1290
00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:01,000
Speaker 19: a pillar.

1291
00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:03,520
Speaker 12: I gotta ask Mount rushmore of hip hop to y'all,

1292
00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:05,360
Speaker 12: who would be the four faces on that?

1293
00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:09,120
Speaker 4: Not even personally. You can't be personal, And we're.

1294
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:11,000
Speaker 3: Telling me some of those people that put his self

1295
00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:13,800
Speaker 3: on I mean you, I'm just saying, like your personal favorites.

1296
00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:15,880
Speaker 3: Like in the future when we're not here and somebody's

1297
00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:17,120
Speaker 3: looking like, who are those people?

1298
00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:23,600
Speaker 4: They call me big man? All right. So my as

1299
00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:24,600
Speaker 4: as as a.

1300
00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:29,320
Speaker 14: Music lover, DJ and a producer, my mount Rushmore of

1301
00:55:29,560 --> 00:55:33,920
Speaker 14: albums would probably be Nation of Millions, three ft I

1302
00:55:34,040 --> 00:55:39,640
Speaker 14: and Rising, and then the thirty six and probably lastly

1303
00:55:40,040 --> 00:55:45,200
Speaker 14: I might say Midnight Marauders. Like those four records sort

1304
00:55:45,239 --> 00:55:47,840
Speaker 14: of informed me to go deep into the culture and

1305
00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:49,080
Speaker 14: actually to get my own career.

1306
00:55:49,360 --> 00:55:52,800
Speaker 4: So look, man, I just keep it. Keep it simple.

1307
00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:53,080
Speaker 4: To me.

1308
00:55:53,520 --> 00:55:55,480
Speaker 19: When you talk about like a real rush More and

1309
00:55:55,560 --> 00:55:57,719
Speaker 19: you talk about the shaping of the culture, you have.

1310
00:55:57,800 --> 00:55:59,759
Speaker 4: To look at its first principles.

1311
00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:02,080
Speaker 19: You know, it's like anything else, you break it down

1312
00:56:02,120 --> 00:56:04,839
Speaker 19: the first principles, right, you know, you gotta put DJ

1313
00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:05,439
Speaker 19: cool Hirk.

1314
00:56:06,040 --> 00:56:08,520
Speaker 4: He ain't on Rushmore. I just he just started it.

1315
00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:12,920
Speaker 19: No big deal, no big deal, this is something I did, Okay,

1316
00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:16,560
Speaker 19: And then you have to put run DMC up up there.

1317
00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:19,000
Speaker 19: Because they kicked down the doors and the walls and

1318
00:56:19,360 --> 00:56:21,120
Speaker 19: you know, put me on their back to a certain

1319
00:56:21,160 --> 00:56:23,040
Speaker 19: stand as well. And I was the solo guy who

1320
00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:25,920
Speaker 19: went out there got shot out of that cannon. And

1321
00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:29,600
Speaker 19: then you have to put Flash and Mel Flash because.

1322
00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:33,040
Speaker 14: He made us dream of the culture, the DJ, the

1323
00:56:33,239 --> 00:56:36,399
Speaker 14: art of the DJ, the idea that a DJ could

1324
00:56:36,440 --> 00:56:38,040
Speaker 14: affect culture and move culture.

1325
00:56:38,080 --> 00:56:38,960
Speaker 4: Flash made us do that.

1326
00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:41,239
Speaker 19: And then you gotta say Mel because he was the

1327
00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:45,360
Speaker 19: first original prolific writer. Like those are the core, you

1328
00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:46,880
Speaker 19: know what I'm saying. You have a couple of others,

1329
00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:49,279
Speaker 19: but like that core right there is the real core.

1330
00:56:49,480 --> 00:56:52,600
Speaker 19: Anything after that fan based this. You know, it's based

1331
00:56:52,640 --> 00:56:54,440
Speaker 19: on oh he made money or oh he had a

1332
00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:57,480
Speaker 19: lot of platinum albums. Oh he got people to change

1333
00:56:57,520 --> 00:57:00,359
Speaker 19: their shirts. Oh yo that he got you know, all

1334
00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:04,640
Speaker 19: of that is cool. But DJ Cool, Hirk, Run, DMC, Grandmaster,

1335
00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:08,279
Speaker 19: Flash and Mail. You removed that and like what you

1336
00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:09,719
Speaker 19: got for me?

1337
00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:10,400
Speaker 4: I think it.

1338
00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:14,200
Speaker 2: Boils down to, uh, just who had the most impact,

1339
00:57:14,560 --> 00:57:17,920
Speaker 2: you know, upon my craft. So I'll give props to

1340
00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:20,800
Speaker 2: you know, the the L's and you know the BC

1341
00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:23,040
Speaker 2: Boys and the Chuck D's and even running them even

1342
00:57:23,080 --> 00:57:25,800
Speaker 2: though they weren't depth jam artists, but that whole first

1343
00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:28,280
Speaker 2: wave of depth jam artists were the first people that

1344
00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:31,760
Speaker 2: I heard had that rush roster. They had that powerful

1345
00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:34,680
Speaker 2: cadence that was just different from with Mel and Curtis

1346
00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:35,919
Speaker 2: Blow and everybody was doing.

1347
00:57:36,160 --> 00:57:37,680
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, run DMC. You know what

1348
00:57:37,720 --> 00:57:38,040
Speaker 4: I'm saying.

1349
00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:41,320
Speaker 2: They came out like balls go in on El cool

1350
00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:42,600
Speaker 2: than Chuck d you know what I mean.

1351
00:57:43,360 --> 00:57:43,640
Speaker 4: Yelling.

1352
00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:45,680
Speaker 2: There was the yelling, so it was you know, that

1353
00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:47,760
Speaker 2: was like wow, like they had arrived. They you know,

1354
00:57:47,960 --> 00:57:50,439
Speaker 2: changed the way I wrote. You know what I'm saying.

1355
00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:52,720
Speaker 2: After I was exposed to that, did you.

1356
00:57:52,840 --> 00:57:57,080
Speaker 4: Ever write for you eborate on that You can still

1357
00:57:57,120 --> 00:57:58,760
Speaker 4: tap his je right for me? You can still tap

1358
00:57:58,800 --> 00:57:59,280
Speaker 4: to Joe l.

1359
00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:03,000
Speaker 16: No no, no, no no.

1360
00:58:03,320 --> 00:58:03,440
Speaker 8: Now.

1361
00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:05,520
Speaker 3: We never did any music together. I saw this on

1362
00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:08,200
Speaker 3: the internet. Somebody said around that time Cube was helping you.

1363
00:58:08,680 --> 00:58:11,080
Speaker 4: You know what, people have this. You know, you know

1364
00:58:11,120 --> 00:58:13,040
Speaker 4: people they got a lot of stories, bro, They come

1365
00:58:13,120 --> 00:58:14,440
Speaker 4: up with a lot of stories, you know what I mean.

1366
00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:19,360
Speaker 14: Hey, Hey, hey, Michael Jordan, did uh somebody ever bounced

1367
00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:21,120
Speaker 14: the ball for you and shoot your jump shot for you?

1368
00:58:21,320 --> 00:58:23,520
Speaker 14: Like no, I shot the jump shot listen.

1369
00:58:23,720 --> 00:58:26,600
Speaker 19: I'm not above collaborating on a chorus or working on

1370
00:58:26,720 --> 00:58:28,560
Speaker 19: something like I'm not I'm not piggy like that. If

1371
00:58:28,560 --> 00:58:30,280
Speaker 19: I was writing the rhyme and somebody said, YO said

1372
00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:31,720
Speaker 19: a word, I'd be like, all right, I like that word.

1373
00:58:31,880 --> 00:58:34,480
Speaker 4: I'm cool with that. But you know, I write my songs.

1374
00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:36,440
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. I have to because it

1375
00:58:36,520 --> 00:58:37,240
Speaker 4: has to come from me.

1376
00:58:37,760 --> 00:58:40,320
Speaker 19: And if you collaborate too much on the at least

1377
00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:43,480
Speaker 19: from LL COOLJ fans, if I collaborated too much with

1378
00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:47,000
Speaker 19: somebody on writing, it would affect what they're listening to.

1379
00:58:47,160 --> 00:58:49,440
Speaker 19: It wouldn't sound like me, you know what I mean,

1380
00:58:49,600 --> 00:58:52,120
Speaker 19: because they are very unique things to ll cool J.

1381
00:58:52,320 --> 00:58:53,760
Speaker 19: So I'll give you I'll give you an example. So

1382
00:58:54,240 --> 00:58:57,080
Speaker 19: I tried to do a more collaborative writing album. I

1383
00:58:57,160 --> 00:59:00,480
Speaker 19: did a whole album with fifty cent and we were

1384
00:59:00,520 --> 00:59:03,000
Speaker 19: writing together on this album, and when it was done,

1385
00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:05,360
Speaker 19: I listened to it, I'm like, it sounds good.

1386
00:59:05,520 --> 00:59:08,680
Speaker 4: I like the music, the rhymes, it sounds cool, but

1387
00:59:08,840 --> 00:59:10,680
Speaker 4: it ain't me. So I didn't put it out.

1388
00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:13,440
Speaker 19: It wasn't nothing against fifty I love fifty I just

1389
00:59:13,520 --> 00:59:16,120
Speaker 19: wanted to try something different. Maybe we collaborate right together.

1390
00:59:16,200 --> 00:59:18,800
Speaker 19: It didn't work. I think you think Paradise was the song, No, no, no, No.

1391
00:59:19,080 --> 00:59:22,600
Speaker 19: Paradise is totally different. Fifty wrote the chorus on Paradise

1392
00:59:22,720 --> 00:59:26,240
Speaker 19: for a Marie what she sung. He didn't write my rhymes,

1393
00:59:26,760 --> 00:59:28,320
Speaker 19: you know what I mean? Like people get that a little,

1394
00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:31,280
Speaker 19: you know what I'm saying. That being said, when that happened,

1395
00:59:31,280 --> 00:59:33,120
Speaker 19: I didn't even know fifty was involved. That was the

1396
00:59:33,200 --> 00:59:36,919
Speaker 19: track masters. They got that done right and they played

1397
00:59:37,000 --> 00:59:37,439
Speaker 19: with the chorus.

1398
00:59:37,480 --> 00:59:38,160
Speaker 6: I liked it, etc.

1399
00:59:38,800 --> 00:59:41,760
Speaker 4: You know, we tried to work together and that's my man.

1400
00:59:41,840 --> 00:59:42,400
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.

1401
00:59:42,400 --> 00:59:45,400
Speaker 19: We real cool, But the collaborative thing when it comes

1402
00:59:45,440 --> 00:59:47,080
Speaker 19: to my verses, that doesn't work for me.

1403
00:59:47,240 --> 00:59:49,800
Speaker 4: And you know, I'm kind of like, it's funny when

1404
00:59:49,800 --> 00:59:50,720
Speaker 4: you do this a long time.

1405
00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:53,280
Speaker 14: The longer you do this, the more people does he

1406
00:59:53,360 --> 00:59:55,400
Speaker 14: still got it? Can he still do it? Is he

1407
00:59:55,480 --> 00:59:57,240
Speaker 14: gonna be able to do it? It kind of reminds

1408
00:59:57,280 --> 01:00:00,280
Speaker 14: me of the Crawfit fight the other night. A lot

1409
01:00:00,320 --> 01:00:05,000
Speaker 14: of people who like were really like nervous for Crawfit, right, Yeah,

1410
01:00:05,160 --> 01:00:06,640
Speaker 14: it was a lot of people that were nervous for

1411
01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:09,120
Speaker 14: Crawfit when he was walking in the ring and he

1412
01:00:09,280 --> 01:00:11,720
Speaker 14: showed what it is. And I think with me, for

1413
01:00:11,840 --> 01:00:15,360
Speaker 14: whatever reason, people are never quite sure if how it's

1414
01:00:15,400 --> 01:00:18,640
Speaker 14: gonna be. But do you like being underestimated? I love it,

1415
01:00:19,720 --> 01:00:22,280
Speaker 14: I actually love it. I'm good with that. I'm good

1416
01:00:22,320 --> 01:00:24,200
Speaker 14: with that because that, you know, that only makes the

1417
01:00:24,320 --> 01:00:25,360
Speaker 14: JAB that much stiffer.

1418
01:00:26,760 --> 01:00:28,720
Speaker 4: You we appreciate. Make sure you get the tickets for

1419
01:00:28,800 --> 01:00:30,600
Speaker 4: the tour. How can they get tickets if they need

1420
01:00:30,680 --> 01:00:33,160
Speaker 4: to go to I mean, just go to ticketmaster dot

1421
01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:34,400
Speaker 4: com and check it out.

1422
01:00:34,440 --> 01:00:36,439
Speaker 19: The fourth tour. I love Cool Jay and the Roots

1423
01:00:36,480 --> 01:00:38,040
Speaker 19: and oh one other thing. I want to tell you,

1424
01:00:38,560 --> 01:00:41,760
Speaker 19: this show is not like the music stops. Then another

1425
01:00:41,840 --> 01:00:44,120
Speaker 19: artist comes on and the music starts, and another.

1426
01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:44,200
Speaker 13: Out of.

1427
01:00:46,240 --> 01:00:49,440
Speaker 14: Yeah, don't show up. This is one long what is

1428
01:00:49,480 --> 01:00:52,160
Speaker 14: it two three hours? Yes, it's one long mixtape. It's

1429
01:00:52,200 --> 01:00:58,280
Speaker 14: a MIXTAPEAMS and that's how fortune day. So get there,

1430
01:00:58,360 --> 01:01:00,320
Speaker 14: you know, get there on time and be trying to

1431
01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:02,520
Speaker 14: make a grand interest in hurting and all that.

1432
01:01:02,920 --> 01:01:05,760
Speaker 4: Just get in on time. Let's have some fun. Hedge Sprung.

1433
01:01:05,800 --> 01:01:08,080
Speaker 4: The first song that comes, they called me Big.

1434
01:01:09,440 --> 01:01:09,640
Speaker 13: Cool.

1435
01:01:11,880 --> 01:01:17,880
Speaker 4: It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning this time for Donkey

1436
01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:19,280
Speaker 4: O the day Donkey.

1437
01:01:20,760 --> 01:01:22,800
Speaker 11: I'm a Democrat, so being junky of the day is

1438
01:01:23,240 --> 01:01:24,360
Speaker 11: a little bit of a mixed question.

1439
01:01:24,440 --> 01:01:30,560
Speaker 4: So like a dope donk the other day, the club bitch.

1440
01:01:31,280 --> 01:01:33,400
Speaker 3: Now, I've been called a lot of my twenty three years,

1441
01:01:33,440 --> 01:01:36,080
Speaker 3: But donkey of the day is a new white. Yes,

1442
01:01:36,240 --> 01:01:38,640
Speaker 3: donkey to Dave goes to thirty seven year old John

1443
01:01:38,760 --> 01:01:42,400
Speaker 3: Garza and forty three year old Arlely Nemo of Virginia.

1444
01:01:42,480 --> 01:01:43,880
Speaker 4: Suit everybody in Virginia.

1445
01:01:44,040 --> 01:01:47,920
Speaker 3: Now, these two convicts have been in custody in Newport

1446
01:01:48,040 --> 01:01:51,720
Speaker 3: News for months, facing a bunch of charges, including, but

1447
01:01:51,880 --> 01:01:57,440
Speaker 3: not limited to, contempt of court, probation violations, failure to appear,

1448
01:01:58,040 --> 01:02:02,920
Speaker 3: credit card fraud, forgery, possession of burglary tools, grand larceny.

1449
01:02:02,960 --> 01:02:05,120
Speaker 3: I mean they just both career criminals, or should I

1450
01:02:05,200 --> 01:02:09,800
Speaker 3: say they made being criminal their career, Okay, because life

1451
01:02:09,840 --> 01:02:11,880
Speaker 3: is about choices, and they chose a life of crime.

1452
01:02:12,200 --> 01:02:14,400
Speaker 3: It is what it is, and I must admit they

1453
01:02:14,520 --> 01:02:17,439
Speaker 3: seem to be pretty good at it. Okay, never mind

1454
01:02:17,480 --> 01:02:20,120
Speaker 3: the fact that they're in jail. Okay, everyone gets caught

1455
01:02:20,280 --> 01:02:21,200
Speaker 3: at some point in time.

1456
01:02:21,320 --> 01:02:22,240
Speaker 4: That's just the way it is.

1457
01:02:22,360 --> 01:02:25,439
Speaker 3: But what kind of run do you have when you're

1458
01:02:25,480 --> 01:02:28,600
Speaker 3: out all right, Garza and Nemo in regards to crime,

1459
01:02:28,720 --> 01:02:30,600
Speaker 3: especially like petty crime.

1460
01:02:31,120 --> 01:02:33,520
Speaker 4: It seems like they're up there with Jordan and pippin Baby.

1461
01:02:33,880 --> 01:02:36,720
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm talking about Lebron, James and d Wade

1462
01:02:36,840 --> 01:02:40,640
Speaker 3: like they are the splash Brothers of criminology and their

1463
01:02:40,720 --> 01:02:45,440
Speaker 3: latest crime, their latest crime takes the cake or should

1464
01:02:45,440 --> 01:02:46,200
Speaker 3: I say pancake?

1465
01:02:47,000 --> 01:02:48,440
Speaker 4: What are you talking about, Uncle Charlotte.

1466
01:02:48,480 --> 01:02:50,440
Speaker 3: I know they've never been specific about what kind of

1467
01:02:50,480 --> 01:02:52,160
Speaker 3: cake people be taken, but I'm pretty sure it's a

1468
01:02:52,240 --> 01:02:53,680
Speaker 3: cake from a bakery, not a pancake.

1469
01:02:54,160 --> 01:02:54,840
Speaker 4: Never mind all that.

1470
01:02:55,120 --> 01:02:57,000
Speaker 3: Okay, you want to know what I'm talking about, Let's

1471
01:02:57,040 --> 01:02:59,760
Speaker 3: go to WTKR CBS News three for the report.

1472
01:02:59,760 --> 01:02:59,960
Speaker 4: Please.

1473
01:03:00,480 --> 01:03:02,600
Speaker 20: In what may seem like a movie plot, the Newport

1474
01:03:02,600 --> 01:03:05,440
Speaker 20: News Sheriff's Office says two inmates tunneled this hole in

1475
01:03:05,520 --> 01:03:08,280
Speaker 20: a cell wall to escape from the Newborn News jail

1476
01:03:08,400 --> 01:03:11,920
Speaker 20: NX Monday evening. The Sheriff's office says Arly Nemo and

1477
01:03:12,120 --> 01:03:15,360
Speaker 20: John Garza were able to exploit a construction design weakness

1478
01:03:15,400 --> 01:03:18,120
Speaker 20: in the building and used a toothbrush and metal object

1479
01:03:18,240 --> 01:03:21,200
Speaker 20: to make the hole. Once outside, they scaled a security

1480
01:03:21,240 --> 01:03:24,000
Speaker 20: wall and got out the jail ANX is a minimum

1481
01:03:24,040 --> 01:03:26,440
Speaker 20: security facility, and the two were discovered to be missing

1482
01:03:26,720 --> 01:03:28,760
Speaker 20: during a routine headcount, but it was a tip from

1483
01:03:28,800 --> 01:03:31,080
Speaker 20: the public that led police to the ihop on Mercury

1484
01:03:31,120 --> 01:03:33,680
Speaker 20: Boulevard and Hampton, where the two were apparently eating at

1485
01:03:33,720 --> 01:03:36,480
Speaker 20: about three am this morning. Hampton Police say the two

1486
01:03:36,560 --> 01:03:39,320
Speaker 20: were taken into custody without incident. Garza had been in

1487
01:03:39,400 --> 01:03:43,760
Speaker 20: custody since December on several charges, including probation violations. Nemo

1488
01:03:43,840 --> 01:03:47,120
Speaker 20: had been in custody since last October on charges including

1489
01:03:47,160 --> 01:03:48,360
Speaker 20: credit card fraud.

1490
01:03:49,680 --> 01:03:53,080
Speaker 4: Ladies and gettlemen. These men a career criminals.

1491
01:03:53,880 --> 01:03:58,040
Speaker 3: Uh, this is a crime, Okay, But I don't know

1492
01:03:58,200 --> 01:04:01,000
Speaker 3: if that news report said it or not, because I

1493
01:04:01,080 --> 01:04:04,960
Speaker 3: wasn't paying all the way that much attention. But these

1494
01:04:05,000 --> 01:04:10,880
Speaker 3: guys escaped jail with a toothbrush. A toothbrush, and guess

1495
01:04:10,920 --> 01:04:12,680
Speaker 3: where they went after they got out of prison? Envy

1496
01:04:13,840 --> 01:04:17,320
Speaker 3: I heard, Oh they said it, Dad, they did?

1497
01:04:17,760 --> 01:04:19,840
Speaker 4: Oh. I blinked out. Something's wrong my brain lately.

1498
01:04:19,960 --> 01:04:22,680
Speaker 3: But yes, I want to say that even though these

1499
01:04:22,760 --> 01:04:25,240
Speaker 3: men are career criminals and this is a crime, you

1500
01:04:25,400 --> 01:04:28,600
Speaker 3: have to admit escaping jail with a toothbrush just to

1501
01:04:28,680 --> 01:04:32,080
Speaker 3: go get some ihop legendary, drop on a clues bomb

1502
01:04:32,120 --> 01:04:34,680
Speaker 3: for those legends. I mean, come on, man, you went

1503
01:04:34,720 --> 01:04:37,000
Speaker 3: from that, You went from the International House of Prison

1504
01:04:37,160 --> 01:04:38,840
Speaker 3: to the International House of Pancakes.

1505
01:04:38,880 --> 01:04:40,920
Speaker 4: Okay, you gotta let a legend be a legend.

1506
01:04:40,960 --> 01:04:43,920
Speaker 3: Baby, I can both acknowledge that this is Donkey of

1507
01:04:44,000 --> 01:04:46,560
Speaker 3: the day worthy and legendary at the same time.

1508
01:04:46,680 --> 01:04:49,840
Speaker 4: These men exploited a construction design weakness.

1509
01:04:49,680 --> 01:04:52,360
Speaker 3: With primitive made tools made from a toothbrush and a

1510
01:04:52,440 --> 01:04:55,760
Speaker 3: metal object, put a hole in the wall, scaled, went

1511
01:04:55,880 --> 01:04:59,280
Speaker 3: through the wall, then scaled over another security wall just

1512
01:04:59,360 --> 01:05:01,840
Speaker 3: to get some of the those world famous buttermilk pancakes. Man,

1513
01:05:01,920 --> 01:05:04,000
Speaker 3: drop on a clues bomb for them, and I hope

1514
01:05:04,040 --> 01:05:07,400
Speaker 3: they had a full stack. Okay, eleven twenty nine before attacks,

1515
01:05:07,400 --> 01:05:08,720
Speaker 3: six hundred and ninety calories.

1516
01:05:08,720 --> 01:05:09,680
Speaker 4: Alright, I'm gonna be honest with you.

1517
01:05:09,880 --> 01:05:12,200
Speaker 3: They deserve it all big steak omelet for those two

1518
01:05:12,360 --> 01:05:15,120
Speaker 3: all right, sixteen thirty nine before attacks, one thousand and

1519
01:05:15,160 --> 01:05:17,200
Speaker 3: forty calories. Give it to them, all right, Send a

1520
01:05:17,240 --> 01:05:20,440
Speaker 3: stack pancakes twelve fifty nine before tax, eight hundred and

1521
01:05:20,520 --> 01:05:21,360
Speaker 3: seventy calories.

1522
01:05:21,400 --> 01:05:21,960
Speaker 4: Give it to them.

1523
01:05:22,040 --> 01:05:25,200
Speaker 3: Now, do I think it's extremely stupid that they escape

1524
01:05:25,280 --> 01:05:28,280
Speaker 3: jail just to go to I hop yes, But if

1525
01:05:28,280 --> 01:05:29,560
Speaker 3: you're already facing.

1526
01:05:29,320 --> 01:05:32,040
Speaker 4: A bunch of charges and you're going to prison for.

1527
01:05:32,120 --> 01:05:34,680
Speaker 3: The next decade or the next couple of decades, and

1528
01:05:35,080 --> 01:05:37,120
Speaker 3: you really don't have no place to go, if you

1529
01:05:37,280 --> 01:05:39,520
Speaker 3: actually escape, you just want to get up, get out,

1530
01:05:39,600 --> 01:05:40,680
Speaker 3: and get some fresh air.

1531
01:05:41,400 --> 01:05:46,120
Speaker 4: You know what I mean? Yolo? Okay, yolo, you only

1532
01:05:46,200 --> 01:05:47,240
Speaker 4: live once? All right?

1533
01:05:47,360 --> 01:05:51,960
Speaker 3: In this case, I hop International House of Pancakes. Please

1534
01:05:52,000 --> 01:05:55,840
Speaker 3: give John Garza and Arlenimo of Newport News, Virginia the

1535
01:05:55,880 --> 01:05:57,200
Speaker 3: sweet sounds of the Hamiltons.

1536
01:05:57,520 --> 01:06:06,520
Speaker 4: Oh no, you are of the day, well the dog

1537
01:06:07,040 --> 01:06:17,040
Speaker 4: gee all the day. Yee. I respect it. Let's let's

1538
01:06:17,040 --> 01:06:21,400
Speaker 4: play a game. You want to play a game, I do. Okay, well,

1539
01:06:21,520 --> 01:06:23,080
Speaker 4: let's play a game of yess.

1540
01:06:26,560 --> 01:06:28,960
Speaker 3: All right, we got thirty seven year old John Garza

1541
01:06:29,000 --> 01:06:32,200
Speaker 3: and forty three old Ary Nemo of Newport News, Virginia.

1542
01:06:32,520 --> 01:06:35,440
Speaker 4: They both escaped prison just to go get some eye

1543
01:06:35,480 --> 01:06:41,560
Speaker 4: hop dj n V. Yess what raison? I'm gonna say, White?

1544
01:06:44,560 --> 01:06:48,320
Speaker 4: What makes you think they would honestly? Mm hmmm. I

1545
01:06:48,360 --> 01:06:51,200
Speaker 4: think I hope you're being honest. I think black people

1546
01:06:51,200 --> 01:06:54,600
Speaker 4: would have went to waffle House. You're crazy. You're crazy,

1547
01:06:54,600 --> 01:06:57,840
Speaker 4: and you're disrespectful. In the South, don't but the ie Hop.

1548
01:06:57,880 --> 01:07:00,360
Speaker 4: Don't act like I hop, ain't ain't I hop? Ma,

1549
01:07:00,400 --> 01:07:01,960
Speaker 4: if you got a choice, you go to waffle house,

1550
01:07:02,000 --> 01:07:02,520
Speaker 4: you ain't gonna go.

1551
01:07:03,440 --> 01:07:06,440
Speaker 3: Actually, actually, what if I had a choice, I'm going

1552
01:07:06,480 --> 01:07:08,120
Speaker 3: to I Hop me too. But in the South, we

1553
01:07:08,200 --> 01:07:08,880
Speaker 3: go to waffle house.

1554
01:07:08,880 --> 01:07:09,280
Speaker 4: When you're in the.

1555
01:07:09,280 --> 01:07:12,360
Speaker 3: South, you do waffle House. I'm South Carolina born and raised.

1556
01:07:12,560 --> 01:07:14,800
Speaker 3: I'm going to IE Hop. Okay. I can think of

1557
01:07:14,880 --> 01:07:17,640
Speaker 3: plenty of knights in Columbia, South Carolina when I went

1558
01:07:17,680 --> 01:07:19,640
Speaker 3: to IE Hop over everything else.

1559
01:07:19,880 --> 01:07:22,160
Speaker 12: I know, and I know the I Hop or Mercury Boulevard,

1560
01:07:22,160 --> 01:07:23,560
Speaker 12: they usually open twenty four to seven. You know, I

1561
01:07:23,560 --> 01:07:25,160
Speaker 12: went to school in Hampton, Virginia, so I know that

1562
01:07:25,280 --> 01:07:28,440
Speaker 12: I hop. But when I'm in the South, I got

1563
01:07:28,520 --> 01:07:30,720
Speaker 12: I Hop in New York, I'd rather go to waffle

1564
01:07:30,760 --> 01:07:32,040
Speaker 12: house and get my chicken and waffles.

1565
01:07:32,040 --> 01:07:34,000
Speaker 4: I know black people they going to what are they

1566
01:07:34,040 --> 01:07:38,320
Speaker 4: white or black? They're Caucasians, see it, I know it. Okay.

1567
01:07:42,160 --> 01:07:44,320
Speaker 3: I don't think ie hoping waffle House is a black

1568
01:07:44,440 --> 01:07:46,600
Speaker 3: or white thing, because I'm I'm telling you plenty of

1569
01:07:46,680 --> 01:07:49,000
Speaker 3: Knights in Columbia, South Carolina. I took my ass to

1570
01:07:49,040 --> 01:07:52,440
Speaker 3: ie Hop on Assembly Street, slutha everybody that's working on

1571
01:07:52,960 --> 01:07:55,400
Speaker 3: working in ie Hop on in Columbia, South Carolina on

1572
01:07:55,400 --> 01:07:59,160
Speaker 3: Assembly Street. Take thirty one Assembly Street. Baby, my goodness,

1573
01:07:59,520 --> 01:08:03,280
Speaker 3: actually putting handcuffs in there one night. But and I

1574
01:08:03,440 --> 01:08:06,040
Speaker 3: have on a symbolist street back in the day.

1575
01:08:06,080 --> 01:08:07,600
Speaker 12: Though, I do want to know what's wrong with the

1576
01:08:07,840 --> 01:08:09,640
Speaker 12: Virginia jails, the fact that you can get your way

1577
01:08:09,680 --> 01:08:10,880
Speaker 12: out with a toothbrush.

1578
01:08:10,520 --> 01:08:16,160
Speaker 3: Like they said it was a construction design weakness, and

1579
01:08:16,400 --> 01:08:18,080
Speaker 3: they say they don't want to speak too much on

1580
01:08:18,240 --> 01:08:20,519
Speaker 3: it because of security security concerns.

1581
01:08:20,920 --> 01:08:24,600
Speaker 4: If you can use a you got out with a toothbrush.

1582
01:08:24,360 --> 01:08:25,600
Speaker 3: I mean, I guess they don't want to give too

1583
01:08:25,640 --> 01:08:27,800
Speaker 3: much away because then it'll give other prisoners ideas. But

1584
01:08:27,920 --> 01:08:29,719
Speaker 3: you know, you know, if you if you can escape

1585
01:08:29,720 --> 01:08:33,240
Speaker 3: with a primitive made too, you know, made from a

1586
01:08:33,320 --> 01:08:36,800
Speaker 3: toothbrush in the metal logic, man, Jesus man, I'm gonna

1587
01:08:36,800 --> 01:08:38,080
Speaker 3: be honest with you. When you do stuff like that,

1588
01:08:38,160 --> 01:08:42,160
Speaker 3: you kind of deserve to be free. I guess would

1589
01:08:42,160 --> 01:08:43,800
Speaker 3: be almost like a game. If you can get out,

1590
01:08:44,840 --> 01:08:46,840
Speaker 3: you deserve to be out Jesus Christ.

1591
01:08:46,880 --> 01:08:50,840
Speaker 4: All right, all right, well thank you for that donkey today. Yes,

1592
01:08:50,920 --> 01:08:53,360
Speaker 4: indeed the Breakfast Club.

1593
01:08:55,400 --> 01:08:59,080
Speaker 12: On everybody is DJ Envy CHARLAMAGNEA god. We are the

1594
01:08:59,120 --> 01:09:02,360
Speaker 12: Breakfast Club special guest in the building. A legend when

1595
01:09:02,400 --> 01:09:04,519
Speaker 12: it comes to this hip hop thing. Ladies and gentlemen,

1596
01:09:04,960 --> 01:09:06,800
Speaker 12: fab five Freddy, welcome.

1597
01:09:06,520 --> 01:09:08,360
Speaker 6: Brother, okay man, pleasure to be here.

1598
01:09:08,320 --> 01:09:11,080
Speaker 4: Man, what's happening. Let's have pleasure to have you brother man.

1599
01:09:11,200 --> 01:09:11,880
Speaker 6: Thanks so much.

1600
01:09:12,120 --> 01:09:14,080
Speaker 3: And you know, we just celebrated fifty years of hip

1601
01:09:14,120 --> 01:09:16,760
Speaker 3: hop incredible. Did you ever think that hip hop would

1602
01:09:16,760 --> 01:09:17,280
Speaker 3: take it this far?

1603
01:09:17,320 --> 01:09:17,400
Speaker 17: Her?

1604
01:09:17,439 --> 01:09:19,080
Speaker 4: To quote the lady, I know, I loved that call.

1605
01:09:19,560 --> 01:09:22,080
Speaker 6: Not not at all, not at all. I mean, I

1606
01:09:22,160 --> 01:09:25,040
Speaker 6: mean I was clearly thinking of, like, you know, in

1607
01:09:25,200 --> 01:09:28,240
Speaker 6: terms of the moves I made, having some control over

1608
01:09:28,320 --> 01:09:31,960
Speaker 6: the narrative, you know, being that being aware that people

1609
01:09:32,000 --> 01:09:34,799
Speaker 6: that look like us in previous generations of our culture

1610
01:09:34,880 --> 01:09:38,519
Speaker 6: didn't have that ability to host the shows that you know,

1611
01:09:38,800 --> 01:09:41,320
Speaker 6: you know, the footprint that you guys have and the

1612
01:09:41,439 --> 01:09:44,240
Speaker 6: things that others like us in media and do these things.

1613
01:09:45,120 --> 01:09:48,320
Speaker 6: So that was like a super significant thing that I

1614
01:09:48,520 --> 01:09:51,360
Speaker 6: thought about from beginning. But to see it come to

1615
01:09:51,479 --> 01:09:55,599
Speaker 6: this point globally the most listened to form of music

1616
01:09:56,040 --> 01:09:59,240
Speaker 6: around the world. Still, it's just astonishing.

1617
01:09:59,720 --> 01:10:01,559
Speaker 12: Let's let's go back for people that don't know who

1618
01:10:01,640 --> 01:10:04,759
Speaker 12: Fab five Freddy is. So let's let's start from the beginning.

1619
01:10:04,840 --> 01:10:06,479
Speaker 12: How you got into this thing called hip hop and

1620
01:10:07,040 --> 01:10:09,880
Speaker 12: what you created Because you started off as a graffiti artist,

1621
01:10:10,000 --> 01:10:12,880
Speaker 12: right and I'm sure you were tagging trains back in

1622
01:10:12,880 --> 01:10:14,479
Speaker 12: the day because that was the thing to do, the trains.

1623
01:10:14,560 --> 01:10:16,439
Speaker 6: That was the thing to do, the trains, the walls,

1624
01:10:16,479 --> 01:10:19,519
Speaker 6: the buses, right anywhere. It was an audacious thing to do.

1625
01:10:19,640 --> 01:10:23,320
Speaker 6: When I think back, so many New York teenagers back

1626
01:10:23,360 --> 01:10:25,920
Speaker 6: then in the seventies just felt like it was okay

1627
01:10:26,000 --> 01:10:28,640
Speaker 6: to put your name anywhere you felt it needed to be.

1628
01:10:29,120 --> 01:10:32,439
Speaker 6: And then the competition of that developed into a real,

1629
01:10:33,000 --> 01:10:37,680
Speaker 6: you know, refined and defined form of expression. Ways of

1630
01:10:37,840 --> 01:10:41,720
Speaker 6: using them spray cans that nobody ever envision anywhere, Like

1631
01:10:41,840 --> 01:10:43,600
Speaker 6: you know, spray cans is just just you know, the

1632
01:10:43,680 --> 01:10:46,200
Speaker 6: pain and an old piece or whatever right around the house.

1633
01:10:46,560 --> 01:10:50,000
Speaker 6: Now we've created, you know, a way to make murals

1634
01:10:50,080 --> 01:10:52,479
Speaker 6: that kind of tell stories about who we are and

1635
01:10:52,640 --> 01:10:54,439
Speaker 6: where we are and what we want to be and

1636
01:10:54,600 --> 01:10:56,400
Speaker 6: do and all those things. It was like a fantasy.

1637
01:10:56,800 --> 01:10:58,840
Speaker 6: And then that began a journey that I kind of

1638
01:10:58,920 --> 01:11:03,479
Speaker 6: helped lead take graffiti art into galleries, turning it into

1639
01:11:03,520 --> 01:11:06,400
Speaker 6: something called street art, which is also like a global thing.

1640
01:11:06,520 --> 01:11:08,880
Speaker 6: You know, probably heard of my homie rest in Peace

1641
01:11:09,360 --> 01:11:12,640
Speaker 6: Jean Michel Boskio young brother out of Brooklyn, and we

1642
01:11:12,840 --> 01:11:16,680
Speaker 6: met on that downtown scene. Had similar aspirations figure out

1643
01:11:16,720 --> 01:11:19,360
Speaker 6: a way to be artists, like Malcolm X said, by

1644
01:11:19,439 --> 01:11:23,719
Speaker 6: any means necessarily, yeah, he used to. Jean was tagging,

1645
01:11:23,840 --> 01:11:27,439
Speaker 6: but he was putting up these like poetic phrases, quotes

1646
01:11:27,880 --> 01:11:30,920
Speaker 6: that were not in any way like typical graffiti, but

1647
01:11:31,000 --> 01:11:33,320
Speaker 6: it was a part of graffiti and nobody knew he

1648
01:11:33,439 --> 01:11:35,760
Speaker 6: was a young brother doing it. Initially he started out

1649
01:11:35,840 --> 01:11:38,960
Speaker 6: doing something called same O, which was sort of short

1650
01:11:39,040 --> 01:11:42,320
Speaker 6: for same o, you know what I mean. And then

1651
01:11:42,400 --> 01:11:44,560
Speaker 6: that developed and then we met and he was on

1652
01:11:44,680 --> 01:11:46,160
Speaker 6: the scene. He turned out to be a brother, like

1653
01:11:46,200 --> 01:11:48,760
Speaker 6: he was doing stuff around Soho in the village area.

1654
01:11:49,120 --> 01:11:51,000
Speaker 6: People didn't know he was a brother, and we met

1655
01:11:51,479 --> 01:11:54,840
Speaker 6: at a party writer as I'm kind of stepping on

1656
01:11:54,960 --> 01:11:58,080
Speaker 6: that downtown art scene, and we both had similar aspirations

1657
01:11:58,120 --> 01:11:59,920
Speaker 6: to try to figure this out, so we began the

1658
01:12:00,400 --> 01:12:02,000
Speaker 6: you know, we kind of linked up and we're in

1659
01:12:02,120 --> 01:12:05,920
Speaker 6: the same circuit. Blondie was somebody that we met pretty

1660
01:12:06,000 --> 01:12:09,240
Speaker 6: much at the same time. I'm in their ear about

1661
01:12:09,360 --> 01:12:13,040
Speaker 6: this new culture, and then they kind of took us

1662
01:12:13,120 --> 01:12:15,160
Speaker 6: under their wings, so to speak, and brought out work

1663
01:12:15,720 --> 01:12:17,719
Speaker 6: some of the first people to buy paintings for myself

1664
01:12:17,760 --> 01:12:20,880
Speaker 6: and Jean Michelle and then made you know, took some

1665
01:12:21,040 --> 01:12:23,200
Speaker 6: inspiration from them stories I told them and made a

1666
01:12:23,280 --> 01:12:24,600
Speaker 6: record called Rapture.

1667
01:12:24,720 --> 01:12:25,880
Speaker 4: Altho we got to stay here for me.

1668
01:12:26,160 --> 01:12:28,559
Speaker 6: Rapture was the first video on MTV that was one

1669
01:12:28,600 --> 01:12:31,000
Speaker 6: of the MTV's first videos which I'm featured if I,

1670
01:12:31,040 --> 01:12:33,320
Speaker 6: along with Jean Michelle, I tried to get Flash was

1671
01:12:33,360 --> 01:12:35,720
Speaker 6: supposed to have come to be the DJ i'd met

1672
01:12:35,760 --> 01:12:37,160
Speaker 6: because you know, it was working on the first hip

1673
01:12:37,200 --> 01:12:40,759
Speaker 6: hop movie while Style in that same time frame, early eighties.

1674
01:12:41,040 --> 01:12:43,080
Speaker 6: I said, Flash, come down and be in this video.

1675
01:12:43,200 --> 01:12:45,720
Speaker 6: You know, to think that there was no MTV at

1676
01:12:45,760 --> 01:12:48,360
Speaker 6: that time, so we did. Music video was not a thing,

1677
01:12:48,520 --> 01:12:51,040
Speaker 6: but still I'm like, they had this idea to create

1678
01:12:51,160 --> 01:12:53,840
Speaker 6: a music video. All the people we hung out with

1679
01:12:54,000 --> 01:12:58,080
Speaker 6: were in the video. Flash never showed up, so I said,

1680
01:12:58,160 --> 01:13:01,080
Speaker 6: John stand at the turntables, and I try to tell

1681
01:13:01,200 --> 01:13:03,120
Speaker 6: Majean just stood there with a grin on his face.

1682
01:13:03,160 --> 01:13:07,639
Speaker 6: So in the raption, so as Debbie starts to rap

1683
01:13:07,760 --> 01:13:10,320
Speaker 6: and the first line is fab five, Freddy told me,

1684
01:13:10,360 --> 01:13:13,360
Speaker 6: everybody's fly. She's saying it to Jean and then she

1685
01:13:13,800 --> 01:13:16,320
Speaker 6: you know, the song goes on. So that turned out

1686
01:13:16,360 --> 01:13:19,519
Speaker 6: to be one of MTV's first videos when the channel launched,

1687
01:13:20,080 --> 01:13:23,360
Speaker 6: and close to ten years later, they would they were

1688
01:13:23,720 --> 01:13:27,160
Speaker 6: kind of pressured into trying to, you know, to do

1689
01:13:27,320 --> 01:13:29,599
Speaker 6: a show about rap music. And I got the call

1690
01:13:29,960 --> 01:13:33,679
Speaker 6: MTV raps what MTV was trying to do. It's interesting

1691
01:13:33,760 --> 01:13:35,800
Speaker 6: that you you guys are now, you know, have this

1692
01:13:35,960 --> 01:13:37,800
Speaker 6: big position doing radio.

1693
01:13:38,280 --> 01:13:40,000
Speaker 4: The guys like you absolutely guys.

1694
01:13:41,640 --> 01:13:44,640
Speaker 6: Well, you know, the thing was radio was pretty segregated,

1695
01:13:44,840 --> 01:13:47,759
Speaker 6: and in the American charts, I mean, England was different.

1696
01:13:47,880 --> 01:13:52,240
Speaker 6: That's why I referenced America pop pretty much meant white essentially,

1697
01:13:52,479 --> 01:13:54,880
Speaker 6: So no matter what kind of record you made, if

1698
01:13:54,960 --> 01:13:57,200
Speaker 6: you could, you know, make a record that was popping

1699
01:13:57,280 --> 01:14:00,519
Speaker 6: all the descriptive ways, the people doing that were black,

1700
01:14:00,560 --> 01:14:02,800
Speaker 6: they would most often off end up on the R

1701
01:14:02,840 --> 01:14:05,320
Speaker 6: and B or the soul chart or the dance chart,

1702
01:14:05,840 --> 01:14:08,719
Speaker 6: and so MTV was set up to try to mirror

1703
01:14:08,800 --> 01:14:12,920
Speaker 6: that a visual form of of what American radio stations were.

1704
01:14:13,280 --> 01:14:15,960
Speaker 6: And so when black acts got big, they were like,

1705
01:14:16,120 --> 01:14:18,519
Speaker 6: why am I not getting any love on there? And so,

1706
01:14:18,720 --> 01:14:21,120
Speaker 6: with the exception of a little line of Richie, a

1707
01:14:21,160 --> 01:14:25,479
Speaker 6: little Prince, there was very little black music to be seen.

1708
01:14:25,600 --> 01:14:30,160
Speaker 6: And then I think it was Michael Jackson's label, Columbia's

1709
01:14:31,040 --> 01:14:34,000
Speaker 6: CBS if I'm not mistaken, Epic, whichever one of those

1710
01:14:34,439 --> 01:14:36,720
Speaker 6: really pressured them and they said, listen, we're going to

1711
01:14:36,800 --> 01:14:40,720
Speaker 6: pull all out other acts, which included Bruce Springsteen off

1712
01:14:40,800 --> 01:14:43,639
Speaker 6: of MTV if you don't play Michael Jackson. I think

1713
01:14:43,680 --> 01:14:47,280
Speaker 6: that specifically was Billy Jean, and then they played it.

1714
01:14:47,520 --> 01:14:49,759
Speaker 6: The numbers went through the roof and then came Thriller

1715
01:14:49,920 --> 01:14:52,360
Speaker 6: and everything like that, so that really they had to

1716
01:14:52,560 --> 01:14:55,600
Speaker 6: realize that this time to change up that attitude. And

1717
01:14:55,640 --> 01:14:58,479
Speaker 6: then there were two young white guys at MTV, Peter

1718
01:14:58,640 --> 01:15:02,639
Speaker 6: Doughty and then Ted de me rest in Peace. Peter

1719
01:15:02,760 --> 01:15:05,240
Speaker 6: I had known on the downtown scene. He knew things

1720
01:15:05,280 --> 01:15:08,200
Speaker 6: I was moves I was making with Blondie and the

1721
01:15:08,560 --> 01:15:12,479
Speaker 6: hip hop's first film, Wild Style, and so he was

1722
01:15:12,640 --> 01:15:15,400
Speaker 6: in their ear, like records were selling like crazy, run

1723
01:15:15,479 --> 01:15:18,000
Speaker 6: dmc ll, some of those first early hip hop records

1724
01:15:18,000 --> 01:15:21,679
Speaker 6: were going crazy, no marketing, no promo, and so they said, Okay,

1725
01:15:22,280 --> 01:15:24,360
Speaker 6: we're going to try it, try this out. And they

1726
01:15:24,439 --> 01:15:25,120
Speaker 6: tried it and it.

1727
01:15:25,200 --> 01:15:27,680
Speaker 4: Wasn't You wasn't upset with leaving or you wanted to

1728
01:15:27,760 --> 01:15:28,400
Speaker 4: leave or was it.

1729
01:15:28,560 --> 01:15:31,200
Speaker 6: Well when it ended about six or seven years in

1730
01:15:31,720 --> 01:15:34,280
Speaker 6: which was incredible run, it was kind of sad that

1731
01:15:34,400 --> 01:15:36,960
Speaker 6: it came to an end. But I realized, like you know,

1732
01:15:37,360 --> 01:15:40,639
Speaker 6: those acts that debuted on your MTV raps were so pivotal,

1733
01:15:41,040 --> 01:15:44,240
Speaker 6: they were so defining of the culture. Like the first

1734
01:15:44,280 --> 01:15:49,960
Speaker 6: time people saw you know, Tupac Nwa, you know, Luke

1735
01:15:50,120 --> 01:15:52,320
Speaker 6: and them. I would go to these areas where they were.

1736
01:15:52,560 --> 01:15:55,400
Speaker 4: You invented that. Everybody that's doing these shows now where

1737
01:15:55,439 --> 01:15:56,880
Speaker 4: they go to, where people are.

1738
01:15:57,000 --> 01:15:59,880
Speaker 3: That's absolutely fab far Freddy, fab far Freddy invented on

1739
01:16:00,120 --> 01:16:03,000
Speaker 3: location conversation. And I know you said you didn't see

1740
01:16:03,360 --> 01:16:05,400
Speaker 3: hip hop going as far, but as far as hip

1741
01:16:05,439 --> 01:16:07,960
Speaker 3: hop becoming mainstream, you played a big role in that.

1742
01:16:08,120 --> 01:16:09,760
Speaker 3: Like when I think of the movie Wild Style, like

1743
01:16:09,840 --> 01:16:12,400
Speaker 3: what did that movie mean to you and hip hop

1744
01:16:12,680 --> 01:16:13,679
Speaker 3: at that time.

1745
01:16:14,040 --> 01:16:16,599
Speaker 6: Yeah, the idea that I had had for Wild Style

1746
01:16:16,880 --> 01:16:20,040
Speaker 6: was to show a way to show the connection between

1747
01:16:20,520 --> 01:16:22,960
Speaker 6: all these elements that are part of hip hop now

1748
01:16:23,240 --> 01:16:25,880
Speaker 6: that didn't exist before. So the idea was to make

1749
01:16:25,920 --> 01:16:29,880
Speaker 6: a film that showed the connection between this rapping, this djang,

1750
01:16:30,120 --> 01:16:33,920
Speaker 6: the breakdancing, and the visual form of expression. Graffidi and

1751
01:16:34,000 --> 01:16:36,000
Speaker 6: I hooked up with this cat, Charlie Ahearn, who was

1752
01:16:36,000 --> 01:16:39,120
Speaker 6: an underground filmmaker on the downtown scene in New York.

1753
01:16:39,520 --> 01:16:42,800
Speaker 6: He had made a super low budget movie about kung

1754
01:16:42,920 --> 01:16:46,080
Speaker 6: Fu that had caught my eye. When I linked with him,

1755
01:16:46,120 --> 01:16:50,599
Speaker 6: I basically pitched this idea for the movie and he said, essentially,

1756
01:16:50,840 --> 01:16:54,479
Speaker 6: let's get busy. So then we started researching going to

1757
01:16:54,600 --> 01:16:57,560
Speaker 6: parties in the Bronx, going to the T Connection, the

1758
01:16:57,680 --> 01:17:02,960
Speaker 6: Ecstasy Garage, meeting Busy, Cold Crush, Fantastic Funky four plus

1759
01:17:03,040 --> 01:17:05,640
Speaker 6: one more including shot Rock, and that was how to

1760
01:17:05,800 --> 01:17:08,320
Speaker 6: jump back to the blondie thing. When they got the

1761
01:17:08,439 --> 01:17:11,960
Speaker 6: opportunity to host Saturday Night Saturday Night Live, they also

1762
01:17:12,080 --> 01:17:15,479
Speaker 6: got to pick who the support act was and they

1763
01:17:15,560 --> 01:17:18,160
Speaker 6: wanted to bring somebody hip hop on, so we talked

1764
01:17:18,200 --> 01:17:20,519
Speaker 6: about flashing the Furious five. Of course they were big.

1765
01:17:20,600 --> 01:17:23,000
Speaker 6: But then I said, you know, the Funky four, similar

1766
01:17:23,040 --> 01:17:26,320
Speaker 6: to Blondie, has a female like out front, and I

1767
01:17:26,360 --> 01:17:27,840
Speaker 6: thought it was a nice counterbalance.

1768
01:17:28,080 --> 01:17:30,080
Speaker 12: All right, we got more with Fab five Freddy when

1769
01:17:30,080 --> 01:17:32,479
Speaker 12: we come back, don't move. It's the breakfast Club, Good morning.

1770
01:17:32,600 --> 01:17:34,640
Speaker 4: Owning Everybody's dej.

1771
01:17:34,680 --> 01:17:37,400
Speaker 12: Envy Charlamage, the god we are. The Breakfast Club was

1772
01:17:37,439 --> 01:17:39,599
Speaker 12: too kicking it with Fab five Freddy Charlamage.

1773
01:17:39,760 --> 01:17:41,800
Speaker 3: I keep hearing you talk about you wanted to make

1774
01:17:41,800 --> 01:17:44,840
Speaker 3: sure hip hop was presented in the right way, right,

1775
01:17:45,000 --> 01:17:48,120
Speaker 3: So I wonder, like, what are your thoughts on the

1776
01:17:48,280 --> 01:17:49,720
Speaker 3: genre of hip hop now?

1777
01:17:50,040 --> 01:17:53,720
Speaker 6: Well, you know, hip hop has continually amazed me with

1778
01:17:53,880 --> 01:17:57,080
Speaker 6: the different turns and the evolutions that have happened within it.

1779
01:17:57,560 --> 01:18:00,120
Speaker 6: That's been the most fascinating thing for me. Some of

1780
01:18:00,160 --> 01:18:02,360
Speaker 6: the things that I've hoped for have come to light.

1781
01:18:02,479 --> 01:18:04,960
Speaker 6: Like I remember the very early days when it was

1782
01:18:05,040 --> 01:18:07,679
Speaker 6: all pretty much throw your hands in the air waving

1783
01:18:07,800 --> 01:18:09,639
Speaker 6: like you just don't care. Everybody say, oh, it's pretty

1784
01:18:09,680 --> 01:18:12,679
Speaker 6: much a party, uplifting kind of vibe, and that was cool.

1785
01:18:12,920 --> 01:18:14,760
Speaker 6: But then I said, man, if somebody can figure out

1786
01:18:14,760 --> 01:18:17,320
Speaker 6: a way to say something that was socially relevant. I

1787
01:18:17,439 --> 01:18:20,559
Speaker 6: knew that would elevate us, and that was the message

1788
01:18:21,120 --> 01:18:23,720
Speaker 6: broken Glass everywhere, you know, don't push me because I'm

1789
01:18:23,720 --> 01:18:26,400
Speaker 6: close to the edge. Really articulated how a lot of

1790
01:18:26,439 --> 01:18:29,720
Speaker 6: people were living in New York and other hoods, and

1791
01:18:29,840 --> 01:18:32,960
Speaker 6: everybody got the memo that we can now throw our

1792
01:18:33,000 --> 01:18:34,800
Speaker 6: hands in the air and have a party, but we

1793
01:18:34,880 --> 01:18:38,280
Speaker 6: can talk about our realities in these streets. And that

1794
01:18:38,520 --> 01:18:41,280
Speaker 6: was exciting. So there's been things that have happened along

1795
01:18:41,360 --> 01:18:45,519
Speaker 6: the way that I've been really enthusiastic about. Obviously, when

1796
01:18:45,560 --> 01:18:48,479
Speaker 6: the conscious movement came in me working with KRS one

1797
01:18:48,680 --> 01:18:51,400
Speaker 6: in the beginning, then Chuck D and everything that opened

1798
01:18:51,479 --> 01:18:54,479
Speaker 6: up a whole another chamber that was incredible. Didn't see

1799
01:18:54,520 --> 01:18:57,160
Speaker 6: it coming, but it was definitely needed. And I think

1800
01:18:57,240 --> 01:18:59,880
Speaker 6: hip hop is gonna fit. It constantly figures out a way.

1801
01:18:59,880 --> 01:19:04,600
Speaker 6: It's like a living organism and different things affected come in.

1802
01:19:04,760 --> 01:19:06,479
Speaker 6: It may go off the track a little bit with

1803
01:19:06,560 --> 01:19:08,760
Speaker 6: certain things, and then they'll come back with something that

1804
01:19:09,160 --> 01:19:12,639
Speaker 6: totally blows us away. Like I think the African even

1805
01:19:12,680 --> 01:19:17,519
Speaker 6: though it's not specifically hip hop, it's very inspired by

1806
01:19:17,560 --> 01:19:21,840
Speaker 6: the things that we've done. So the afrobeats and the

1807
01:19:21,920 --> 01:19:25,040
Speaker 6: Ama piano, which is a sound coming out of South Africa,

1808
01:19:25,479 --> 01:19:28,559
Speaker 6: a young kind of dance type sound which is unique,

1809
01:19:28,680 --> 01:19:31,479
Speaker 6: is incredible as well as well as what the cats

1810
01:19:31,680 --> 01:19:34,960
Speaker 6: in England have figured out on the grime side, you

1811
01:19:35,040 --> 01:19:38,840
Speaker 6: know storm Z and those cats that were constantly early

1812
01:19:39,320 --> 01:19:41,040
Speaker 6: in the early days of what they were doing, they

1813
01:19:41,080 --> 01:19:43,920
Speaker 6: were constantly trying to emulate rap groups from over here.

1814
01:19:44,000 --> 01:19:46,400
Speaker 6: I went to England and covered them during the Your

1815
01:19:46,560 --> 01:19:49,640
Speaker 6: TV Raps era. I remember London Posse was one of

1816
01:19:49,680 --> 01:19:52,360
Speaker 6: the hottest groups at the time that had a New

1817
01:19:52,439 --> 01:19:55,240
Speaker 6: York East Coast kind of wrap flow. But they never

1818
01:19:55,360 --> 01:19:58,160
Speaker 6: really blew up as big as they wanted to in England.

1819
01:19:58,200 --> 01:20:00,240
Speaker 6: But then they figured out how to do it their

1820
01:20:00,280 --> 01:20:03,000
Speaker 6: own way, with their own slang and their own way

1821
01:20:03,400 --> 01:20:05,640
Speaker 6: way of speaking, and they made some dope records and

1822
01:20:05,680 --> 01:20:06,120
Speaker 6: blew ups.

1823
01:20:06,200 --> 01:20:08,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, because I thought about that with y'all, like what

1824
01:20:08,360 --> 01:20:11,280
Speaker 3: was the future for vj's back then, Like, did y'all

1825
01:20:11,360 --> 01:20:12,840
Speaker 3: even know what the future looked like?

1826
01:20:13,000 --> 01:20:18,160
Speaker 4: Like? What did y'all aspire to be after the VJ thing? Well?

1827
01:20:18,360 --> 01:20:22,280
Speaker 6: Good question. Thankfully for me, I was doing something prior.

1828
01:20:22,400 --> 01:20:25,600
Speaker 6: I was already making moves, you know, making art, you know,

1829
01:20:25,920 --> 01:20:28,720
Speaker 6: making films like Wild Style and the VJ thing just

1830
01:20:28,920 --> 01:20:32,400
Speaker 6: came to me really honestly, which was great. People would

1831
01:20:32,439 --> 01:20:33,720
Speaker 6: run up to me, I want to do this, How

1832
01:20:33,760 --> 01:20:34,920
Speaker 6: do you do it? I was like, man, I'd be

1833
01:20:34,960 --> 01:20:36,920
Speaker 6: awkward because I'm like, I can't tell you how to

1834
01:20:37,040 --> 01:20:40,400
Speaker 6: do There's no go to go to VJ school do this.

1835
01:20:40,640 --> 01:20:43,840
Speaker 6: It was just a moment. Clearly MTV is a different

1836
01:20:44,560 --> 01:20:47,880
Speaker 6: you know, all that stuff like doesn't exist. People can

1837
01:20:48,000 --> 01:20:51,280
Speaker 6: do millions of people do that on YouTube, you know,

1838
01:20:51,479 --> 01:20:55,120
Speaker 6: if you will. So there wasn't really a clear path

1839
01:20:55,280 --> 01:20:57,360
Speaker 6: if you will, but if you like you say, like

1840
01:20:57,520 --> 01:21:03,040
Speaker 6: I think interestingly lover going to radio along with Doctor

1841
01:21:03,120 --> 01:21:05,560
Speaker 6: Dre initially and being really good at it was a

1842
01:21:05,640 --> 01:21:09,240
Speaker 6: great transition. There were some people that had worked that

1843
01:21:09,439 --> 01:21:12,519
Speaker 6: radio behind the scenes and whatever that then came to MTV.

1844
01:21:13,080 --> 01:21:17,680
Speaker 6: Stephen Hill had been a radio person that then transitioned

1845
01:21:17,760 --> 01:21:20,080
Speaker 6: to become one of the producers at MTV. But yeah,

1846
01:21:20,600 --> 01:21:22,840
Speaker 6: that's a good one man. It wasn't too many clear

1847
01:21:23,040 --> 01:21:26,760
Speaker 6: paths other than radio or some type of TV announcing

1848
01:21:26,880 --> 01:21:29,759
Speaker 6: maybe commercials or whatever. But for me, like, I wanted

1849
01:21:29,760 --> 01:21:32,040
Speaker 6: to just get back to doing the things that I'm doing.

1850
01:21:32,120 --> 01:21:36,160
Speaker 6: I'm like an obsessive creative and so that's it, you know,

1851
01:21:36,240 --> 01:21:39,960
Speaker 6: it's just creating, and that's still what I primarily do.

1852
01:21:40,320 --> 01:21:42,960
Speaker 4: You do you remember that day you shot with NWA,

1853
01:21:43,920 --> 01:21:44,680
Speaker 4: when you went out there.

1854
01:21:45,000 --> 01:21:47,240
Speaker 6: Yeah, that was a good one. Yeah, and it became

1855
01:21:47,320 --> 01:21:49,479
Speaker 6: a lot of people's favorite show. I remember vividly. We

1856
01:21:49,840 --> 01:21:54,040
Speaker 6: have been playing videos by Easy on the channel and

1857
01:21:54,160 --> 01:21:58,360
Speaker 6: Ted Demi and he would talk to Easy often and

1858
01:21:58,560 --> 01:22:01,000
Speaker 6: Easy was like, mant you all to come out. We

1859
01:22:01,080 --> 01:22:05,720
Speaker 6: have a new group. And I remember them sending us

1860
01:22:05,760 --> 01:22:08,519
Speaker 6: a memo the day before us to listen, nobody don't

1861
01:22:08,560 --> 01:22:11,000
Speaker 6: wear anything red or bluething black.

1862
01:22:11,400 --> 01:22:12,120
Speaker 4: I'm black either.

1863
01:22:12,560 --> 01:22:17,280
Speaker 6: No, I'm sorry, red or blue, We're black, is what

1864
01:22:17,400 --> 01:22:19,040
Speaker 6: they said. And I was like, man, I've been to

1865
01:22:19,160 --> 01:22:21,240
Speaker 6: LA a bunch of times, but I didn't understand the

1866
01:22:21,360 --> 01:22:23,960
Speaker 6: dynamics in the hood. You know, I be in West Hollywood,

1867
01:22:24,280 --> 01:22:26,439
Speaker 6: in and out on some art business or what have you.

1868
01:22:27,080 --> 01:22:29,519
Speaker 6: And so we were like, okay, so we want to

1869
01:22:29,560 --> 01:22:33,400
Speaker 6: show people this scene. So let's runt a flatbed truck

1870
01:22:34,040 --> 01:22:36,880
Speaker 6: and let's ride around because you know, we hadn't seen

1871
01:22:37,120 --> 01:22:40,120
Speaker 6: like what the hood is like or any semblance of LA.

1872
01:22:40,680 --> 01:22:43,120
Speaker 6: And so we meet at the Welcome the Compton sign,

1873
01:22:43,360 --> 01:22:45,519
Speaker 6: and then we get on this flatbed truck and ride

1874
01:22:45,560 --> 01:22:48,360
Speaker 6: around and do segments from the truck. They take us

1875
01:22:48,400 --> 01:22:50,599
Speaker 6: to a swap meet and they give us a little

1876
01:22:50,680 --> 01:22:54,600
Speaker 6: insight on how they live, and it was crazy. I

1877
01:22:54,680 --> 01:22:56,320
Speaker 6: know it was going to be a great show. I

1878
01:22:56,479 --> 01:22:59,439
Speaker 6: get back to the hotel and I put the walk

1879
01:22:59,520 --> 01:23:02,960
Speaker 6: Man on, got the cassette of the new album n

1880
01:23:03,120 --> 01:23:05,000
Speaker 6: WA album Straight out of Content. I listened to it

1881
01:23:05,080 --> 01:23:08,240
Speaker 6: for the first time, and I'm literally snatching the headphones

1882
01:23:08,320 --> 01:23:11,439
Speaker 6: off my head. Can't believe the things that they're saying

1883
01:23:11,680 --> 01:23:15,400
Speaker 6: f the police and just the aggressiveness. And the music

1884
01:23:15,560 --> 01:23:18,880
Speaker 6: was amazing and incredible, but the things they were saying.

1885
01:23:19,240 --> 01:23:21,240
Speaker 6: I was like, Man, MTV is not gonna let this

1886
01:23:21,439 --> 01:23:24,320
Speaker 6: this happen. They gonna pull this. Man, were done shot

1887
01:23:24,400 --> 01:23:28,000
Speaker 6: this incredible show riding around. There's nothing's gonna happen. Well,

1888
01:23:28,040 --> 01:23:31,160
Speaker 6: the videos, they weren't able to play the video for

1889
01:23:31,240 --> 01:23:33,759
Speaker 6: Straight out of Content, but they still had other videos

1890
01:23:33,800 --> 01:23:37,000
Speaker 6: and other content and the and the interview played and.

1891
01:23:37,080 --> 01:23:38,160
Speaker 4: It and it took off.

1892
01:23:38,280 --> 01:23:40,240
Speaker 6: Man, it took off so lovely.

1893
01:23:40,120 --> 01:23:42,439
Speaker 12: When you're talking, when you hear the mount rushmore of

1894
01:23:42,560 --> 01:23:45,879
Speaker 12: hip hop, right what was your on your Mount Rushmore?

1895
01:23:45,880 --> 01:23:47,800
Speaker 4: As far as artists are concerned.

1896
01:23:48,560 --> 01:23:50,479
Speaker 6: Well, you know, when when I get asked those kind

1897
01:23:50,479 --> 01:23:54,840
Speaker 6: of questions, I'm basically like, I've loved so many and

1898
01:23:55,280 --> 01:23:58,559
Speaker 6: and I'm also aware that there's different errors where different

1899
01:23:58,640 --> 01:24:02,360
Speaker 6: people were the most important people at that time. So

1900
01:24:02,600 --> 01:24:06,639
Speaker 6: as the errors have evolved that my Mount Rushmore would

1901
01:24:06,800 --> 01:24:09,720
Speaker 6: it would be various versions based on But I'm a

1902
01:24:09,800 --> 01:24:14,920
Speaker 6: lyrics guy, primarily based on lyricism. Oh man, it'd be

1903
01:24:15,240 --> 01:24:18,519
Speaker 6: in the beginning, you know, I'll screw up, and I won't.

1904
01:24:18,680 --> 01:24:21,240
Speaker 6: I'm sure there's names I forget, but in the beginning, of.

1905
01:24:21,320 --> 01:24:23,920
Speaker 4: Course, you know, only before for every erar look at you,

1906
01:24:24,320 --> 01:24:26,160
Speaker 4: you know, Mount.

1907
01:24:27,439 --> 01:24:27,840
Speaker 14: Mo d.

1908
01:24:29,520 --> 01:24:34,360
Speaker 6: Kaz Cowboy, you know. And then going on further from that,

1909
01:24:34,600 --> 01:24:38,519
Speaker 6: you know Caine, Rack, Kim, g Rap.

1910
01:24:39,280 --> 01:24:41,439
Speaker 4: People forget about g Rap a lot, and I don't

1911
01:24:41,479 --> 01:24:44,439
Speaker 4: understand why, because when you listen to you clearly get it.

1912
01:24:44,720 --> 01:24:48,400
Speaker 6: His lyrical game was masterful, just incredible way he played

1913
01:24:48,439 --> 01:24:52,000
Speaker 6: with words. Who else was my mother? Forth from that

1914
01:24:52,240 --> 01:24:54,320
Speaker 6: in that early period, I guess I would have to

1915
01:24:54,479 --> 01:24:57,720
Speaker 6: put I'll drop a cube in there, you know, And

1916
01:24:57,800 --> 01:25:02,000
Speaker 6: then moving forward, you know, you know Biggie pack of course.

1917
01:25:02,200 --> 01:25:06,200
Speaker 6: You know, I'm stuck right now. I can't think of

1918
01:25:06,320 --> 01:25:09,160
Speaker 6: all the names that I would love, but pretty much

1919
01:25:09,560 --> 01:25:12,240
Speaker 6: those that you know, Nas of course, who I luckily

1920
01:25:12,320 --> 01:25:15,559
Speaker 6: got to direct his one of his first one one

1921
01:25:16,560 --> 01:25:21,639
Speaker 6: love Yeah, that that Q Tip produced, you know, so man,

1922
01:25:21,840 --> 01:25:25,120
Speaker 6: just and then to see Nas still putting out incredible

1923
01:25:25,200 --> 01:25:28,360
Speaker 6: music on a consistent basis, it's like a jazz artist.

1924
01:25:28,439 --> 01:25:30,679
Speaker 6: It's just look, I got something to say. I'm not pressure.

1925
01:25:30,720 --> 01:25:33,200
Speaker 6: It's not about the paper if you will, I'm just

1926
01:25:33,240 --> 01:25:35,240
Speaker 6: want to express this. I'm gonna drop this on you.

1927
01:25:36,000 --> 01:25:39,120
Speaker 3: And so it's it's just probably all the time he

1928
01:25:39,200 --> 01:25:40,280
Speaker 3: probably get deferment pops.

1929
01:25:40,800 --> 01:25:44,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, Olu Dara who used to live near me

1930
01:25:44,400 --> 01:25:46,840
Speaker 6: in Harlem and we would talk because you know, and

1931
01:25:47,320 --> 01:25:50,920
Speaker 6: that's a key thing that Nas has similar to something

1932
01:25:51,000 --> 01:25:54,120
Speaker 6: that Rock him has both of them. Obviously, Nas dad's

1933
01:25:54,160 --> 01:25:58,840
Speaker 6: a jazz musician. Rock Kim had jazz musician. It was

1934
01:25:59,160 --> 01:26:03,160
Speaker 6: a sing I can't remember her name, but earlier connection

1935
01:26:03,400 --> 01:26:06,160
Speaker 6: to to jazz and that sensibility I think is a

1936
01:26:06,479 --> 01:26:10,640
Speaker 6: is a big part of his flow and his dynamic

1937
01:26:10,760 --> 01:26:11,400
Speaker 6: as an artist.

1938
01:26:11,479 --> 01:26:13,280
Speaker 4: All right, Well on movie got over with Fab five

1939
01:26:13,280 --> 01:26:15,479
Speaker 4: Freddy when we come back. It's the Breakfast Club. Good Morning,

1940
01:26:16,360 --> 01:26:21,000
Speaker 4: the Breakfast Club sporting Everybody's tea.

1941
01:26:22,400 --> 01:26:25,080
Speaker 12: Charlamagne, the guy a breakfast Club was too, kicking it

1942
01:26:25,160 --> 01:26:26,840
Speaker 12: with Fab five Freddy Charlamagne.

1943
01:26:27,200 --> 01:26:30,160
Speaker 6: You didn't fox for an interview the first first time

1944
01:26:30,200 --> 01:26:33,800
Speaker 6: on national TV. A lot of those cats. The first

1945
01:26:33,840 --> 01:26:36,400
Speaker 6: time I interviewed Park was on this set of the

1946
01:26:36,479 --> 01:26:41,439
Speaker 6: movie Juice, and and then we held that show until

1947
01:26:41,479 --> 01:26:44,040
Speaker 6: the movie dropped a few months later, and then we

1948
01:26:44,200 --> 01:26:47,000
Speaker 6: added you know, and I'm also did a cameo in

1949
01:26:47,200 --> 01:26:50,720
Speaker 6: Juice as myself, you know, hosting your TV reps while

1950
01:26:50,720 --> 01:26:51,960
Speaker 6: the DJ battle was going on.

1951
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Speaker 4: And uh, talk about that set. Juice, classic movie to

1952
01:26:55,840 --> 01:26:59,439
Speaker 4: this day. Man, Amazing stars from that movie too.

1953
01:26:59,640 --> 01:27:01,560
Speaker 6: Yeah, a lot of good stars, a lot of just

1954
01:27:01,800 --> 01:27:06,320
Speaker 6: really good dynamics. And I'm pretty sure Tupac would definitely

1955
01:27:06,400 --> 01:27:09,080
Speaker 6: have excelled in acting and clearly would have been Oscar

1956
01:27:09,160 --> 01:27:13,360
Speaker 6: nominated by now. His dynamism on the screen was just

1957
01:27:13,479 --> 01:27:17,439
Speaker 6: something I think like people like that have been able

1958
01:27:17,479 --> 01:27:19,000
Speaker 6: to do it in music and then do it on

1959
01:27:19,080 --> 01:27:22,240
Speaker 6: the screen. It's just a it's just a rare group

1960
01:27:22,320 --> 01:27:24,719
Speaker 6: of people that have been able to do that. And still,

1961
01:27:25,080 --> 01:27:27,200
Speaker 6: you know, resonate to us in such a powerful way.

1962
01:27:27,320 --> 01:27:31,679
Speaker 6: But your Pock and I were pretty tight. The second

1963
01:27:31,760 --> 01:27:34,800
Speaker 6: time I interviewed Pak once again, this was pre death row.

1964
01:27:35,320 --> 01:27:37,599
Speaker 6: I like to that's when because it was the first

1965
01:27:37,680 --> 01:27:41,880
Speaker 6: time I knew his background, like he had a black

1966
01:27:41,960 --> 01:27:46,960
Speaker 6: Panther link family wise, and that was the first time

1967
01:27:47,280 --> 01:27:50,280
Speaker 6: he'd spoken about that when I pulled that out of

1968
01:27:50,360 --> 01:27:53,400
Speaker 6: him and he explained how his mother was panther fathered,

1969
01:27:53,680 --> 01:27:56,640
Speaker 6: so that that fire and that awareness of what they

1970
01:27:56,680 --> 01:28:02,120
Speaker 6: were fighting for was part of his consciousness, so which

1971
01:28:02,200 --> 01:28:04,960
Speaker 6: was really interesting. He was a dynamic cat, like I mean,

1972
01:28:05,000 --> 01:28:09,280
Speaker 6: he could be the most militant for a while, Fruit

1973
01:28:09,320 --> 01:28:11,920
Speaker 6: of Islam, Black Panther and then spin on a dime

1974
01:28:12,000 --> 01:28:14,720
Speaker 6: and just be the illess thug. And that was I

1975
01:28:14,760 --> 01:28:16,960
Speaker 6: think a part of the actor in him. He could

1976
01:28:17,080 --> 01:28:21,960
Speaker 6: completely be those people or any other people. I'm sure

1977
01:28:22,080 --> 01:28:24,519
Speaker 6: he would have gotten to play in films. He would

1978
01:28:24,560 --> 01:28:28,479
Speaker 6: have been super effective and compelling. So that was a

1979
01:28:28,520 --> 01:28:31,360
Speaker 6: great loss. So you saw that back then even absolutely,

1980
01:28:31,640 --> 01:28:34,200
Speaker 6: because it was just talking to him and he you know,

1981
01:28:34,320 --> 01:28:37,280
Speaker 6: and then he flipped and be just super hood And

1982
01:28:37,400 --> 01:28:41,000
Speaker 6: I think the persona that he remained in for most

1983
01:28:41,120 --> 01:28:45,479
Speaker 6: of his public life after was the persona of bishop

1984
01:28:45,760 --> 01:28:49,120
Speaker 6: in Jewics like that was his character that you know,

1985
01:28:49,240 --> 01:28:52,360
Speaker 6: he wanted to become on everybody and as many people

1986
01:28:52,680 --> 01:28:55,439
Speaker 6: wanted to wish to have been a big dude on

1987
01:28:55,640 --> 01:28:59,280
Speaker 6: the New York scene or strong cat that conflects like

1988
01:28:59,439 --> 01:29:02,360
Speaker 6: in Harlem and all that, and juice was his way

1989
01:29:02,400 --> 01:29:05,280
Speaker 6: to do that. And because come on, he he wasn't

1990
01:29:05,320 --> 01:29:09,280
Speaker 6: that dude prior. But he stayed in that character largely

1991
01:29:09,560 --> 01:29:11,280
Speaker 6: and then unfortunately got caught up.

1992
01:29:11,200 --> 01:29:13,479
Speaker 4: And this that and the third on the New York side,

1993
01:29:13,600 --> 01:29:14,559
Speaker 4: if you know, the drum.

1994
01:29:14,520 --> 01:29:17,640
Speaker 6: And then went West Coast, and you would think he

1995
01:29:17,800 --> 01:29:20,760
Speaker 6: was born in South Central the way he rapped, you know,

1996
01:29:21,040 --> 01:29:24,760
Speaker 6: on out there in Cali, which so super effectively, but

1997
01:29:25,479 --> 01:29:28,479
Speaker 6: he could he was convincing in any of those genres

1998
01:29:28,600 --> 01:29:30,920
Speaker 6: or any of those formats he would put itself in.

1999
01:29:31,120 --> 01:29:33,200
Speaker 3: Why do you think commercially, because you was there from

2000
01:29:33,240 --> 01:29:36,000
Speaker 3: the inception, why do you think commercially the West Coast

2001
01:29:36,360 --> 01:29:36,800
Speaker 3: took off?

2002
01:29:37,080 --> 01:29:38,880
Speaker 4: It seemed like to me before the East Coast, like

2003
01:29:38,880 --> 01:29:39,639
Speaker 4: I'm talking about.

2004
01:29:39,439 --> 01:29:42,240
Speaker 3: With the massive mainstream success that we see in hip

2005
01:29:42,280 --> 01:29:44,120
Speaker 3: hop now interesting, I just.

2006
01:29:44,240 --> 01:29:47,000
Speaker 4: I don't know that's but would you say that because

2007
01:29:47,040 --> 01:29:49,760
Speaker 4: he had run DMC had I.

2008
01:29:49,800 --> 01:29:52,519
Speaker 6: Thought it was their term. Yeah, we blew up big

2009
01:29:52,800 --> 01:29:58,000
Speaker 6: and dug out and planted a firm foundation. That's why

2010
01:29:58,080 --> 01:30:01,080
Speaker 6: this culture still rocks so hard today day because the

2011
01:30:01,200 --> 01:30:05,280
Speaker 6: roots went deep without anything going viral too early or

2012
01:30:05,320 --> 01:30:07,360
Speaker 6: people jumping out there. Tucson and was.

2013
01:30:07,400 --> 01:30:08,799
Speaker 4: Jef Rowe was a monster.

2014
01:30:08,960 --> 01:30:11,960
Speaker 3: Snoop Dogg sold what eight hundred plus thousand his first

2015
01:30:12,200 --> 01:30:15,000
Speaker 3: and second week. He was like the first hip hop

2016
01:30:15,160 --> 01:30:19,160
Speaker 3: artist on certain magazine covers, like he really was. It

2017
01:30:19,280 --> 01:30:21,719
Speaker 3: was something else, that was something else, and it started

2018
01:30:21,760 --> 01:30:22,880
Speaker 3: with NWA to me, but.

2019
01:30:23,160 --> 01:30:23,840
Speaker 6: Yeah, it was.

2020
01:30:24,000 --> 01:30:24,920
Speaker 4: It was a big thing.

2021
01:30:24,960 --> 01:30:27,560
Speaker 6: They had an incredible movement. It was I think it

2022
01:30:27,920 --> 01:30:32,839
Speaker 6: just followed they They added on nicely to the foundation

2023
01:30:33,000 --> 01:30:35,320
Speaker 6: that was laid right here in New York. And then

2024
01:30:35,400 --> 01:30:37,960
Speaker 6: once again, I was honored to get to direct Snoop's

2025
01:30:38,000 --> 01:30:40,439
Speaker 6: first video for What's My Name and turned him into

2026
01:30:40,520 --> 01:30:43,840
Speaker 6: a dog. And then interestingly, you know, I'm in the

2027
01:30:43,920 --> 01:30:47,120
Speaker 6: cannabis business now with a brand called b Noble, which

2028
01:30:47,200 --> 01:30:49,559
Speaker 6: grew out of a film I made which you can

2029
01:30:49,600 --> 01:30:51,800
Speaker 6: see on Netflix called grass Is Greener. And I got

2030
01:30:51,880 --> 01:30:55,040
Speaker 6: Snoopers in my film, and Snoop tells the story, which

2031
01:30:55,080 --> 01:30:58,400
Speaker 6: I didn't know that he Dre. I spent that whole

2032
01:30:58,479 --> 01:31:02,439
Speaker 6: summer living with Ray in Calabasas, because the first day

2033
01:31:02,479 --> 01:31:07,280
Speaker 6: of shooting Snoop's video him performing on VIP Records. Right

2034
01:31:07,400 --> 01:31:10,719
Speaker 6: after that we changed locations in Long Beach. That turns

2035
01:31:10,760 --> 01:31:13,560
Speaker 6: into a near riot. That's like not more than a

2036
01:31:13,680 --> 01:31:16,320
Speaker 6: year after the La riots, So we got shut down.

2037
01:31:16,439 --> 01:31:19,599
Speaker 6: Draces fab I gotta finish Snoop's album. If you can

2038
01:31:19,720 --> 01:31:22,400
Speaker 6: chill and hang, we will get the video done. My

2039
01:31:22,560 --> 01:31:26,479
Speaker 6: priority is getting this record done. So that Let's led

2040
01:31:26,520 --> 01:31:28,320
Speaker 6: me to spend the rest of that summer out there

2041
01:31:28,439 --> 01:31:30,640
Speaker 6: hanging with Dre and the dog Pown, getting to know

2042
01:31:30,800 --> 01:31:33,840
Speaker 6: them real well, seeing Dre's process in the studio, which

2043
01:31:33,960 --> 01:31:36,560
Speaker 6: was remarkable, and then we would get a moment to

2044
01:31:36,680 --> 01:31:40,040
Speaker 6: run out and get some scenes that would be other

2045
01:31:40,120 --> 01:31:42,120
Speaker 6: parts of the video. And then towards the end of

2046
01:31:42,160 --> 01:31:44,439
Speaker 6: the summer there was a big scene that I never

2047
01:31:44,520 --> 01:31:48,360
Speaker 6: got to shoot because Snoop got caught up famously murder

2048
01:31:49,200 --> 01:31:50,720
Speaker 6: was the case. I said, Man, I'm out of here.

2049
01:31:50,800 --> 01:31:54,120
Speaker 4: This is just not enough. I want to document.

2050
01:31:55,080 --> 01:31:58,040
Speaker 3: You need you need a document like you yourself, like

2051
01:31:58,160 --> 01:32:00,680
Speaker 3: you have to tell how did you get your name.

2052
01:32:01,439 --> 01:32:03,880
Speaker 6: I became a part of a graffiti crew called the

2053
01:32:03,960 --> 01:32:07,439
Speaker 6: Fabulous Five. They were the one of the dominant groups

2054
01:32:07,560 --> 01:32:10,840
Speaker 6: of graffiti painters in New York, which were known for

2055
01:32:11,000 --> 01:32:14,280
Speaker 6: doing murals on this side of the primarily on the

2056
01:32:14,360 --> 01:32:17,040
Speaker 6: Lexington Avenue number five train. So what you would tag

2057
01:32:17,200 --> 01:32:19,160
Speaker 6: up was, you know, you tag your name and the

2058
01:32:19,240 --> 01:32:21,920
Speaker 6: group you was down with and then off. And then

2059
01:32:22,000 --> 01:32:25,320
Speaker 6: sometimes I would be referred to as, Oh, that's Fab

2060
01:32:25,439 --> 01:32:27,519
Speaker 6: five Freddy. You know what I'm saying, that's fab five

2061
01:32:27,560 --> 01:32:31,640
Speaker 6: fred And when Blondie made Rapture, it just embedded it

2062
01:32:31,840 --> 01:32:34,439
Speaker 6: and solidified it. When she dropped my name, when she

2063
01:32:34,560 --> 01:32:38,040
Speaker 6: basically was like fab five Freddy told me everybody's fly

2064
01:32:38,720 --> 01:32:40,600
Speaker 6: and I was like, man, wow, I never thought of

2065
01:32:40,680 --> 01:32:42,559
Speaker 6: it as the whole thing. But that's a good look,

2066
01:32:42,600 --> 01:32:44,400
Speaker 6: you know what I mean. She represented and gave me

2067
01:32:44,479 --> 01:32:46,760
Speaker 6: a look and it it booms. So that's how that

2068
01:32:46,920 --> 01:32:47,759
Speaker 6: really came together.

2069
01:32:47,880 --> 01:32:50,400
Speaker 4: I just want you to tell people how difficult it

2070
01:32:50,720 --> 01:32:52,680
Speaker 4: was to tag trees back in the day. It was

2071
01:32:52,800 --> 01:32:53,680
Speaker 4: so just just talk about that.

2072
01:32:53,840 --> 01:32:56,840
Speaker 6: There's a great documentary that was done the same time

2073
01:32:56,920 --> 01:32:59,960
Speaker 6: we making Wild Style early eighties. There was a documentary

2074
01:33:00,680 --> 01:33:04,880
Speaker 6: called Star Wars that illustrates. In fact k Slay, whose

2075
01:33:05,120 --> 01:33:08,880
Speaker 6: rest of Young graffiti Rider named Dez is featured as

2076
01:33:08,960 --> 01:33:12,479
Speaker 6: a young graffiti rider and he's you see him in

2077
01:33:12,600 --> 01:33:13,599
Speaker 6: Star Wars. Yeah.

2078
01:33:13,640 --> 01:33:13,760
Speaker 1: Man.

2079
01:33:13,800 --> 01:33:16,040
Speaker 6: You had to know where the trains what we called

2080
01:33:16,680 --> 01:33:19,920
Speaker 6: called the called the layup or in times when the

2081
01:33:20,000 --> 01:33:24,120
Speaker 6: rush hour is not running, the extra trains are placed

2082
01:33:24,160 --> 01:33:27,639
Speaker 6: in different areas in the city, sometimes in tunnels, sometimes

2083
01:33:27,720 --> 01:33:30,559
Speaker 6: at the yards. So you had to know which train

2084
01:33:30,680 --> 01:33:33,280
Speaker 6: you wanted to get to get up on where that

2085
01:33:33,439 --> 01:33:35,920
Speaker 6: train was going to be, whether in a tunnel or

2086
01:33:36,000 --> 01:33:38,479
Speaker 6: way up in the train yards at the end of

2087
01:33:38,560 --> 01:33:40,960
Speaker 6: the train line somewhere. And then you had to be

2088
01:33:41,240 --> 01:33:44,559
Speaker 6: stealthy on some ninja type energy to get up in there,

2089
01:33:44,600 --> 01:33:47,080
Speaker 6: because one of the objectives is also you know, not

2090
01:33:47,200 --> 01:33:50,120
Speaker 6: to get caught, and so you had to have all

2091
01:33:50,160 --> 01:33:54,000
Speaker 6: those pieces together to get in, get out, and hopefully

2092
01:33:54,479 --> 01:33:55,120
Speaker 6: not get caught.

2093
01:33:55,320 --> 01:33:57,439
Speaker 4: You ever got caught, taken the tray never never.

2094
01:33:57,640 --> 01:33:59,880
Speaker 6: If you get caught, one of your sentences was to

2095
01:34:00,080 --> 01:34:02,680
Speaker 6: go wash walls, so you clean the graffiti off the

2096
01:34:02,720 --> 01:34:05,960
Speaker 6: trade on the overalls. They you're your bucket and a

2097
01:34:06,000 --> 01:34:09,000
Speaker 6: bunch of chemicals, and you be at some platform and

2098
01:34:09,120 --> 01:34:13,080
Speaker 6: some station having the clean walls, feeling like, man, I

2099
01:34:13,200 --> 01:34:15,519
Speaker 6: got caught out here. I feel I'm like a herb now,

2100
01:34:15,680 --> 01:34:18,280
Speaker 6: you know. So it wasn't easy. It was a very

2101
01:34:18,360 --> 01:34:19,000
Speaker 6: difficult thing.

2102
01:34:19,160 --> 01:34:21,960
Speaker 3: And uh it just made something that people thought was

2103
01:34:22,040 --> 01:34:24,920
Speaker 3: just vandalizing back in the day became something so synonymous

2104
01:34:25,000 --> 01:34:26,200
Speaker 3: part with New York City.

2105
01:34:26,240 --> 01:34:28,559
Speaker 4: It gave the city character. You see it in video games,

2106
01:34:28,640 --> 01:34:29,759
Speaker 4: cartoons and everything.

2107
01:34:29,920 --> 01:34:33,559
Speaker 6: That blows my mind. You know, graffiti fonts, you can

2108
01:34:33,640 --> 01:34:36,120
Speaker 6: get a font and just use graffiti letters. So that's

2109
01:34:36,600 --> 01:34:40,240
Speaker 6: that's really satisfying to see that. That's a lot of

2110
01:34:40,280 --> 01:34:43,439
Speaker 6: these ideas we had have really worked, and I'm excited

2111
01:34:43,520 --> 01:34:45,960
Speaker 6: for the next fifty. All right, well, we appreciate you

2112
01:34:46,040 --> 01:34:49,920
Speaker 6: for thanks, having wanted to be up here with you.

2113
01:34:50,680 --> 01:34:54,719
Speaker 12: You brother, absolutely the Breakfast Club, Good morning, the Breakfast Club.

2114
01:34:54,840 --> 01:34:57,000
Speaker 4: Your morning's will never be the same.