1 00:00:03,640 --> 00:00:06,480 Speaker 1: I want to love seeing God damn right, who doesn't 2 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:08,840 Speaker 1: want to make out on TV? It's pretty cool? I mean, 3 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:10,560 Speaker 1: why the titty is still up in the head, you 4 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 1: know right, Let me make out while my titties are fresh. 5 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 1: They're gonna soil eventually. I'd like it on wax as 6 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:21,000 Speaker 1: evidence so I could show my kids later. You see 7 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:24,520 Speaker 1: them titties like I wouldn't be back in the day. 8 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 1: I know you don't like talking about your papa's titties, 9 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 1: but I'm gonna show you. I need you to see 10 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:32,840 Speaker 1: him just so you respect me. Goddamn it, boys, gathering 11 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 1: something to share with you. Everyone around the fireplace. I 12 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:40,280 Speaker 1: have a big announcement. And your daddy ever tell you 13 00:00:40,320 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 1: about this? Why chips in your racist mean she's turning 14 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 1: stuff you can't tell me? Yeah? There it is. There 15 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 1: it is, Ladies and gentlemen, here we are welcome to 16 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 1: another phenomenal, devastating, thick booty episode of My Mama Told Me, 17 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:22,400 Speaker 1: the podcast where we dive deep into the pockets and 18 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 1: lack conspiracy theories and we finally start that go fund 19 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:30,960 Speaker 1: me to recollect iced teas Ponytail. The man ain't been 20 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 1: the same since they took his ponytail from him. We 21 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 1: got to get that ponytail back by all means, by 22 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 1: any coast, we will get iced tea back his ponytail. 23 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:46,399 Speaker 1: I am your host, Lake snick Herman. I am excited 24 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 1: to be here. It is hot in my house. I 25 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 1: ain't wearing no sleeves. We're getting it popping today. And 26 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 1: my guest today apparently she's not wearing no shirt, which 27 00:01:56,440 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 1: is very exciting for everyone involved. It's an audiocast, but 28 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 1: now you get to use your imagination, which is very funny. 29 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 1: She's hilarious. She's just so fucking funny. You know from Netflix, 30 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 1: you know from Black Monday. She's just hilarious. I'm a 31 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 1: big fan. Give it up from my guest today, Miss 32 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 1: Janelle James. Oh yeah, I haven't felt applause and so 33 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 1: long again one more time. I got you. It's nice, right, Yeah, 34 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:34,360 Speaker 1: you haven't done any of the you know, the outdoor shows. 35 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 1: You haven't gone and ventured out. Two days ago it 36 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:39,920 Speaker 1: was my first one with Chelsea Handler. But it was 37 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 1: such ah, it was such a huge ordeal and uh 38 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 1: that I'm not sure. I'm still trying to figure out 39 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 1: if I enjoyed it or not. It was so stressful 40 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:54,839 Speaker 1: first show in five months, that weird thing of like 41 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 1: you're not comfortable doing your art the way that you 42 00:02:57,440 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 1: used to do your art. Tacked on top of the 43 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 1: fact that like you're putting couzies on top of your 44 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 1: microphone from spreading germs, it's all very well, that's not 45 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 1: even a half of it. It was a shoot, not 46 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:11,520 Speaker 1: just a show. So this is SAG rules and it 47 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 1: is intense so to you know, sanitize and audience and 48 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 1: mask and isolation, and it's just like, yo, is this fun? 49 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:27,680 Speaker 1: Just worth it? Yeah? I mean I got paid. I 50 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:29,640 Speaker 1: was like, I had told myself I wasn't gonna come 51 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:31,960 Speaker 1: venture out unless it's for a good amount of money. 52 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 1: So they got me on that. But then I was 53 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 1: just like, yo, this is this is crazy. I don't 54 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 1: know if the money Now I'm like, I don't know 55 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 1: if the money was right. It was so much. It 56 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 1: was so much to deal with. So yeah, I feel 57 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 1: like after a certain point of success, we're all asking ourselves, like, 58 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 1: I don't know, I had planned on hitting there so quickly, 59 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 1: you know. So I once did a commercial where I 60 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 1: dressed up like a giant piece of checks mix and uh, 61 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 1: I hit that prettier in my career. I remember that. 62 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 1: It's not a fond memory. I'm not brand Uh nope, 63 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 1: well okay, And it was the internet. It was like weird, 64 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 1: no websites only you. No, no, not even any residual 65 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 1: checks to take the edge off your regret to be 66 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:25,480 Speaker 1: a whore. We all do. The point is, we all 67 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:29,719 Speaker 1: make choices exactly. Well, I'm really excited you're here today 68 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:33,720 Speaker 1: because you came with a conspiracy theory that has been 69 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:36,360 Speaker 1: very near and dear to my heart for quite a while. 70 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:40,279 Speaker 1: And after some deliberating. We deliberated a little bit, but 71 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:42,720 Speaker 1: you picked. I want to make sure we get this correct. 72 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:46,360 Speaker 1: You said, my mama told me black men with bad 73 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:54,279 Speaker 1: haircuts are perceived as safer in the eyes of white America. 74 00:04:54,640 --> 00:05:01,159 Speaker 1: Is it a conspiracy if it's true? Yeah, but that's 75 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:04,360 Speaker 1: what I say. I've heard it before, and I love 76 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 1: that you picked it. Tell me where this comes from 77 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:10,360 Speaker 1: for you, Well, my mama first, but also I think 78 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:14,719 Speaker 1: it perpetuates through Hollywood. Anytime the good guy steps on 79 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 1: the scene, that hairline is is all the way fucked up, 80 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And so I think it's 81 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:26,840 Speaker 1: so almost anti black to be walking around with your 82 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:30,359 Speaker 1: head oh messed up. That It's like you gotta be 83 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 1: working on the other side, you know what I mean, 84 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 1: or trying to not working on the other side, but 85 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 1: trying to present yourself is differently then, right, So you're 86 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:42,159 Speaker 1: saying that to some extent, this is like the men 87 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 1: or the people involved in this consenting to a shitty 88 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 1: hairline for the sake of like getting in good with Hollywood. 89 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:52,480 Speaker 1: It started as a conspiracy and people are now using it. 90 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 1: You know what I mean, just my just my theory. 91 00:05:57,400 --> 00:06:00,840 Speaker 1: I know. Listen, there's no reason to run from this. 92 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 1: Let's dig deep. We all code switch some people here 93 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 1: line switch, you know what I mean. You're trying to 94 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:13,839 Speaker 1: get trying to get exactly example James, her voice on 95 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:16,040 Speaker 1: the phone calls some of y'all tell your barber he 96 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 1: don't touch that. I'm trying to get up to the 97 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:24,919 Speaker 1: VP spot. You know. So I got my I love that. Wait, 98 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 1: your mother has this opinion. She shares this conspiracy theory. 99 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 1: Now I was lying. I was just trying to go 100 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:33,720 Speaker 1: I'm just playing along. Good. Yeah, my mother, I'm from 101 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 1: the island, so we I don't know what our conspiracy theory. 102 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 1: We just have a lot of sayings that are rooted 103 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 1: in religion bullshit that I can Yeah, but this one 104 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 1: is I picked because I'm definitely no, it's a thing. Sure, 105 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 1: let's start digging into examples, because I do feel like 106 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:55,359 Speaker 1: even for our white listeners, we have to imagine that 107 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:58,599 Speaker 1: some of them are even confused about what a good 108 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 1: hairline is. Do you know what I mean? Like, I 109 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 1: can't imagine that that half the time they even know 110 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 1: when a black man has us. I would say, look 111 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 1: at any recent upgrade on the NBA. You know it's 112 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 1: a n that was looking a little different than they 113 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 1: were a couple of years ago. That's the new version 114 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 1: is the good hairline. That's that's look at you trying 115 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 1: to keep your money by not saying, Lebron James, look 116 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 1: at you. I was very professional of you. You're like, 117 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 1: I have to drive the Graham packer next to him 118 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 1: in a commercial coming up. You don't know, you don't 119 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 1: know he's sometimes you know, might right be a check 120 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be but you never know. When individuals crossover 121 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 1: into a comedic comedy or whatever, they always crossed the no. 122 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 1: But I might have to meet this dude one day, 123 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 1: you never know. But yeah, Janelle James jam too, Oh 124 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 1: my god, I wish anyway, don't we all? But I 125 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 1: totally agree. I think that it to some extent. Uh, 126 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 1: there was a celebration of a lot of NBA or 127 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 1: sort of big celebrity figures at the point that their 128 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 1: hair looked shitty or is continuing to look shitty. Complicated. Sure, yeah, 129 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 1: I was just gonna say, if white people want to 130 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 1: know what we're trying to achieve here as far as perfection, 131 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 1: look to the ones that were paid for right there 132 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 1: you go that. Look, okay, look there were That's okay, 133 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:33,960 Speaker 1: Now you're explaining something. So so a old lebron is 134 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 1: what we're fighting again, current lebron is what we are 135 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:42,320 Speaker 1: trying to achieve. I said it. I've said it a 136 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 1: few times in other places, but I genuinely believe that 137 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 1: Jalen Rose made a deal with the devil to have 138 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:55,720 Speaker 1: the hairline that he has. It is magnificent. Dude, up, Oh, 139 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 1: you don't know Jalen Rose. I'm not a BigMan ever exists. 140 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 1: He's more famous for being an Indiana pacer and then 141 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 1: getting uh, well he wasn't a pacer at the time, 142 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:07,720 Speaker 1: but he took eighty one points from Kobe. Kobe scored 143 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:10,680 Speaker 1: eighty one points on the Man and now he's a commentator. 144 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 1: And this is an example of a great headline. It's 145 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:15,679 Speaker 1: what you're saying, fantastic. Oh. I'm like, wait a minute, 146 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:17,600 Speaker 1: what do you okay? I thought you were saying the opposite. 147 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:19,440 Speaker 1: I'm like, well, ship, what's the good one? If this 148 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 1: is awful? This? Yeah, this is pretty fucking perfect. It's 149 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 1: the perfect airline. And I have to believe that he 150 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 1: did something. He murdered an orphan to get it. Oh 151 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 1: he forty seven with this strong ass headline. Something going on? 152 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 1: Uh something at the altar and I'm looking at a 153 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:42,080 Speaker 1: picture of his younger self and he had a low 154 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 1: he had the almost a buzz cut. What's that? Like? 155 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 1: What's the call? When the five o'clock shadow on your 156 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 1: all fade and the headline it's Chris Listen, it's never moved, 157 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:58,839 Speaker 1: it's never in forty seven years. This is a conspiracy 158 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 1: right here, Jalen roses Hire, that's all that ship. Wow, 159 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:08,840 Speaker 1: what blood did you drink to get that haircut to 160 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:12,560 Speaker 1: stay exactly where it is in forties seven years? Oh? 161 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 1: My goodness, I am amazing this conspiracy specifically I think 162 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 1: was presented under the guys of black men. But do 163 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 1: you find that that also applies to women, that black 164 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 1: women in Hollywood are forced to sort of consent too 165 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 1: bad hair on ourselves, yeah, or just you know, white 166 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 1: people sort of like wanting that look so well, you know, 167 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 1: I definitely switch up, switch up the wigs, depending on 168 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 1: what I'm trying to go for it. You know, since 169 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 1: the girl gets uh braids or you know, uh color, 170 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 1: you know, corporate corporate lady gets gets the wig, you know, 171 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:52,320 Speaker 1: the straight relaxed here, maybe a little fair or falset 172 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 1: and fair, a little uh, what's a little scandal, little 173 00:10:56,640 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 1: carry Washington, that's standard the last couple of years. I 174 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:03,320 Speaker 1: got you. So you think the sisters in general are 175 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 1: getting a little more grace when it comes to their hair, 176 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 1: that they're having more options to choose. I don't know. 177 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:14,319 Speaker 1: In Hollywood, I mean, I don't know if it's grace. 178 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:17,680 Speaker 1: We're all also constantly trying to figure out what hairstyle 179 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 1: is least scary to white people, or or or just 180 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 1: the right enough black that they're like, Okay, we got 181 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 1: a black person, but not too black that she's gonna 182 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 1: call us on our ship. Right, if you twist that 183 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:35,720 Speaker 1: all the way to the scout, you're gonna cause some problems. 184 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:38,200 Speaker 1: It's gonna be tighter or that, you know what I mean, 185 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:40,560 Speaker 1: She's not gonna like my jokes and ship, you know, 186 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 1: So that's fair. I think what's fascinating in this conspiracy theory, 187 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 1: or certainly has so much to explore in this conspiracy 188 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:55,440 Speaker 1: theory is what the intention of the sort of white 189 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:58,840 Speaker 1: Hollywood is in controlling black hair? Do you know what 190 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:02,559 Speaker 1: I mean? Like, what what's your goal here? What is 191 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 1: what are you ultimately trying to achieve in your control 192 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:10,560 Speaker 1: of black hair? Well diversity without being too diverse? Mm 193 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 1: hmmm without without I don't know what's scary to uh. 194 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:19,960 Speaker 1: I mean, there's pretty conceived notions about different types of hairstyles. 195 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:23,319 Speaker 1: So if you got dreads, you're radical, or you smoke weed, 196 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 1: or you know, if you're natural, maybe you in the 197 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:30,440 Speaker 1: front of the Black Lives Matter protests or whatever they think, 198 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 1: which isn't necessarily true, but in Hollywood don't really move quickly. 199 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 1: So the same stereotypes they had in the eighties are 200 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 1: the same one they judging us by now you know, 201 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 1: I changed my hair every five seconds, so who am? 202 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:47,600 Speaker 1: Who am I? But you know, I'm sure you show 203 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 1: up to work and they're like, that's a new lady, 204 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:54,120 Speaker 1: so fast. It was you had a bob yesterday and 205 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 1: it's down to your fun. You black people are amazing 206 00:12:56,679 --> 00:13:02,719 Speaker 1: Black girl magic. Anyway, I think you're making a very 207 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:05,200 Speaker 1: valid point that so much of this is rooted in 208 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 1: like antiquated stereotypes, right that, like what white people were 209 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 1: scared of in nineties six about black associations and hairstyles 210 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 1: is still the exact same thing that they're pretty much 211 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 1: afraid of today. I feel like, you know, outside of Hollywood, 212 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 1: it's still true that white people don't have many encounters 213 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:28,079 Speaker 1: with black people, so they still everything they believe is 214 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:30,960 Speaker 1: still what's on TV or what they saw back then, 215 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 1: and then I don't think they until recently even went 216 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 1: out of their way to see us. So it's just 217 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 1: what they happened to see in a movie with a 218 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 1: black person one time. You know, they're not necessary seeking 219 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 1: out black entertainment. Always say that this what's happening now 220 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:49,680 Speaker 1: with diversity and always having to include a black person 221 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 1: or one of each and all of that I don't know. Sure, 222 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 1: I'm happy for the work, but I don't know if 223 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 1: that makes better products. And it's not realistic because a 224 00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:00,680 Speaker 1: lot of white people they hang out with people that 225 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 1: look like them. It's it's yeah, I hate when I'm 226 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:06,440 Speaker 1: watching a white production and then here it comes as 227 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 1: black dude, like, yo, what up? Like they would never 228 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:10,320 Speaker 1: be friends, you know what I mean. And you don't 229 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:14,080 Speaker 1: have to trick me. You don't have to wedge this 230 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:18,840 Speaker 1: person in here because you feel bad about not casting someone, 231 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 1: Like like writing the story with a black person in 232 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 1: it just right. You write the story you know how 233 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 1: to write, and hopefully the story you know how to 234 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 1: write includes black people. But it shouldn't just be you 235 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 1: turn this into a black character for a reason. And 236 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 1: what would happen in the eighties is not eighties. In 237 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 1: the nineties with the black guy that would show up 238 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 1: with the hey what up? Would always have a blacks haircut, 239 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 1: would always have a wack haircut. And I think that's 240 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 1: just stuck right, And I think part of it is 241 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 1: like you can't have the one dude show up who's 242 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:53,440 Speaker 1: like the best friend and he looks sexy and flexy. 243 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 1: You tried to show up and look like average and 244 00:14:56,800 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 1: something that can fade into the background. We don't need 245 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:03,280 Speaker 1: this mother. Well. Also, I think just from experience, dudes, 246 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 1: black dudes who's walking around with them type of head cuts, 247 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 1: grew up around white people. They're going up, what's the 248 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 1: what's supercut? Super cut? Exactly? They and you know, letting 249 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 1: barb cut their here or whatever. I mean, I've lived 250 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 1: in neighborhoods like that, where's no black barbershop, where else 251 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 1: you're gonna go? You know? So uh as a as 252 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 1: a I've only been a victim once, but as a 253 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 1: former victim of super cuts, I can't say I can 254 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 1: say that it's never going to turn out to be 255 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 1: the experience you wanted to be. I wouldn't imagine why 256 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 1: you would think that, But you know, when you're a 257 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 1: boy growing up in the suburbs, you get desperate. You 258 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 1: start to think, like, I want to look good. Maybe 259 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 1: this this white lady can help me out. I've done 260 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:53,520 Speaker 1: my kids old school where I just went on some 261 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:55,440 Speaker 1: YouTube bens and said, let me figure out how to 262 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 1: cut this ship, because I don't you know, I mean, 263 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 1: we're at a certain point. My mom was cutting my 264 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 1: hair and she wasn't good at it, and YouTube didn't exist, 265 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 1: so it was like she's just like making some ship 266 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 1: up and it wasn't helping. And then I thought like, oh, 267 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be a big boy and independent and try 268 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 1: this on my own. And you know, you you funk up. 269 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:20,200 Speaker 1: But so and so did they cut your hair with 270 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 1: the scissors. Of course, that's that's where they start. And 271 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 1: then you walk out You're like, okay, line me up, 272 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 1: and then you got bangs. For some reason, it's just, 273 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 1: you know, I feel like that's the writer of passage 274 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 1: from black people here, Like I've definitely sat down in 275 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 1: a white woman's chair, Like actually that just happened to 276 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 1: me on sat where it's so funny because because of YouTube. 277 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 1: This is off topic, but because of YouTube, and I 278 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 1: appreciate it. You know, there's the white hair solids are 279 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 1: trying to learn about black hair more. And this woman 280 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 1: was so proud of having some edge control gel like 281 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 1: she pulled it out, Like before she pulled it out, 282 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 1: her face was beaming. I was like, what was she 283 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 1: about to pull out? Because she was like, I'm about 284 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 1: to fucking blow this chick's mind. Like and she pulled 285 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:11,439 Speaker 1: out this edge control and brush, and she's like, should 286 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 1: I do your edges? And I just she couldn't wait 287 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:17,360 Speaker 1: to say that, you know, she was up all night 288 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:21,159 Speaker 1: and look how nice I am. I said, sure, I 289 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:22,679 Speaker 1: ain't need a head that ship. But I was like, 290 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:25,919 Speaker 1: you look so excited to crack open and it was fresh, 291 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 1: not one fingerprinting that ship. I was the first. She 292 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:31,879 Speaker 1: killed it, no meaning when she opened the gael, I 293 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:35,240 Speaker 1: was obviously the first. She hadn't even put her finger 294 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:37,560 Speaker 1: in it yet it was a fresh move surface. I 295 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:40,440 Speaker 1: was the first edges she had ever brushed down. She 296 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 1: was cracking the seal on this edge control jail exactly. 297 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:47,600 Speaker 1: She was waiting for you, and and to your point, 298 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 1: that's very nice that she tried. But whatever. The more 299 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:57,119 Speaker 1: wanted alternative is that they left black people into the 300 00:17:57,280 --> 00:18:00,960 Speaker 1: unions for her styling on sets. But anyway, so that 301 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 1: would be so ideal, I too have had some horrifying 302 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:07,679 Speaker 1: that stories where it's just like you show up and 303 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:10,120 Speaker 1: they don't have a black barber, and if they do, 304 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:13,200 Speaker 1: it's not really a black barber. It's just like somebody 305 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:16,440 Speaker 1: who qualifies as being able to do ethnic hair, which 306 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:19,680 Speaker 1: doesn't mean anything. It's like you know what I mean, 307 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:25,439 Speaker 1: goddamn thing, black hair, That's what I wanted. Do you 308 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:28,719 Speaker 1: know how to be a nigga and a barbershop? Can 309 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:31,159 Speaker 1: you cut my hair while you tell me about you 310 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:34,480 Speaker 1: cheating on your wife? The kind of energy I need 311 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:36,720 Speaker 1: to get a solid hair, do you know what I mean? 312 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 1: So that brings us back to our conspiracy and that 313 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:41,760 Speaker 1: I think part of the reason black dudes with horrible 314 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:45,480 Speaker 1: haircuts are more palatable and safer to white people is 315 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:49,719 Speaker 1: that they know that they're not experiencing the indoctrinate nation 316 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 1: or what the is the indoctri nation of black barbershops. 317 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:58,359 Speaker 1: Who knows what they think it's happening in there. Probably 318 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:00,639 Speaker 1: they think we in there getting radical make plans with 319 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:06,159 Speaker 1: each other. Whoa theory? Wait, I'm must Let's take a 320 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 1: step back. I really thought about this. You might have 321 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:11,879 Speaker 1: just you might have just cracked open something that I 322 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:14,560 Speaker 1: need you to really explore this. This brings me to 323 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 1: a section of the show that I like to call 324 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:20,399 Speaker 1: talk that talk, and what you're suggesting is groundbreaking in 325 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:22,720 Speaker 1: a way that I never expected. So, Janelle, I'm gonna 326 00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 1: give you thirty seconds, thirty seconds to just break down 327 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:29,439 Speaker 1: exactly what you mean about this potential indoctrination from the 328 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 1: black barbershop. Whenever you're ready, I'm ready. So I think 329 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 1: black barbershops is one of the few spaces that white 330 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:40,399 Speaker 1: people have not gentrified, and so they don't know what 331 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 1: the fund is happening in there, and usually just based 332 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:46,199 Speaker 1: on behaviors that are and things that are happening and 333 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:49,360 Speaker 1: have always happened, they for whatever reason, having their head 334 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:52,120 Speaker 1: that anytime we're left to our own devices, that we're 335 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:54,879 Speaker 1: plotting against them. So if you're in a barbershop with 336 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:57,360 Speaker 1: the fresh fade, oh and don't have a fresh line 337 00:19:57,440 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 1: up all the time, I mean you and this so 338 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:05,520 Speaker 1: much who knows what? They are? Scary scared of the unknown, 339 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 1: which is is the basis for a lot of basing. 340 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 1: There is oh man, that's okay, now, okay that oh, 341 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:22,720 Speaker 1: now you crack something open, because I think that's exactly right. 342 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 1: I think there's this constant fear of what we're doing 343 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:30,040 Speaker 1: without them, and so they are essentially making us get 344 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:32,919 Speaker 1: our hair cut by white people or by sort of 345 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:36,400 Speaker 1: like their insiders, so that they can avoid the risk 346 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:40,320 Speaker 1: that we're constantly treading in this space that they're afraid 347 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:45,240 Speaker 1: to enter on their own, and then there's a constant 348 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:48,280 Speaker 1: risk that maybe if I'm alone with my barber, I'm 349 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 1: gonna be planning some sort of like terrorist attack against 350 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:57,480 Speaker 1: the the white community who cut by a dude who 351 00:20:57,480 --> 00:21:01,480 Speaker 1: has bad opinions about like women and Lebron Like I don't. 352 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:04,240 Speaker 1: It doesn't have to be all that well, you know, 353 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 1: I found that white people think we think about their 354 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:09,440 Speaker 1: way more than we do. So that's what I think 355 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:13,640 Speaker 1: is happening. Uh, Honestly, this changed everything for me and 356 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:17,480 Speaker 1: I I've got more reading to do because this is powerful. 357 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:20,160 Speaker 1: All Right, We're gonna take a break and then we're 358 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 1: gonna be back with more Janelle James and more, my 359 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 1: mama told me. And we are bad anyway. Yeah, We're 360 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:46,800 Speaker 1: back here with more Janelle James and more. My mama 361 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:49,960 Speaker 1: told me. We're still talking about those trash gass hairlines 362 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:54,400 Speaker 1: that Hollywood approves and allows people to excel in their 363 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 1: careers based on the fucked up linings that they put 364 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 1: out in the world. Do you think this extends beyond Hollywood? 365 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 1: Do you think that this goes into other spaces of six? Yeah, 366 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:09,960 Speaker 1: I mean every big purchase I've ever made that was 367 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 1: from a black man was with a dude with a hairline. 368 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:19,440 Speaker 1: My car, my house is always a guy, come on back, 369 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 1: got the papers for you? That those only people that 370 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:24,200 Speaker 1: they let get the papers, you know what I mean? 371 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:31,480 Speaker 1: So I ain't never bought nothing expensive from a sharp airline, right. 372 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:35,160 Speaker 1: I started thinking about it in terms of like politicians, right, 373 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:39,680 Speaker 1: even beyond politics, like he sort of like massive figures 374 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:43,840 Speaker 1: in history, Barack Obama not that great of a hairline, 375 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 1: Martin Luther King Jr. Ain't nobody talking about that fate 376 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:51,159 Speaker 1: Nelson Mandela. You think they would let him be Nelson 377 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:54,000 Speaker 1: Mandela if he didn't have that slick back afro do 378 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like I will say Barack 379 00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:59,920 Speaker 1: cadd stuff. I will say Barack just like his pol 380 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 1: takes really walk the line of his hairline, Like he 381 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 1: has a hairline, but he ain't too sharp, you know what? 382 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:09,720 Speaker 1: He's laughing to laugh like that's his that's his play. 383 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:13,199 Speaker 1: That's exactly right, and we're not gonna you know that, 384 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:16,560 Speaker 1: we're not gonna roast him. But then white people are like, Okay, 385 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:21,920 Speaker 1: well it's fuzzy, it's funny. Sometimes he was like, hey, 386 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:25,280 Speaker 1: line me up, but don't you hit them corners. Dare 387 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:31,119 Speaker 1: hit them corners, you leave them corners. So exactly, I 388 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:34,480 Speaker 1: can't afford for these motherfucker's to get uncomfortable with my corners. 389 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:36,159 Speaker 1: I feel like that's how he lives life right in 390 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:47,679 Speaker 1: the middle, right middle Real by Rachel oh Man. That 391 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:53,480 Speaker 1: hurts my feelings. I have some research that I love 392 00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:55,920 Speaker 1: to unpack with you, because I do think that there's 393 00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 1: a lot of legitimacy to this conspiracy theory. One of 394 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:01,960 Speaker 1: the things that I found, one of the as we 395 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:05,920 Speaker 1: were measuring success, I guess the easiest sort of like 396 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:09,639 Speaker 1: a measure of success or clearest measure of success was 397 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 1: to go to the Forbes list of billionaires, right, And 398 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:16,679 Speaker 1: of the two thousand, one hundred and fifty three people 399 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 1: listed on the Forbes list of billionaires last year, that's 400 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:27,879 Speaker 1: saying that, no, you're right, hundred people are billionaires. That 401 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:29,960 Speaker 1: doesn't even make sense, But go ahead. So I'm sorry, 402 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:33,040 Speaker 1: and we're out here starving and freezing, and by we, 403 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:36,359 Speaker 1: I mean y'all, I'm fine. But the point is, oh, 404 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:40,760 Speaker 1: it's coming for us. It is I'm not. I'm not 405 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:44,320 Speaker 1: far enough into any game to get to be exactly 406 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:48,960 Speaker 1: from this exactly, but so of the people, thirteen of 407 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:53,880 Speaker 1: them are black. In the world. Of those thirteen, that's 408 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:57,640 Speaker 1: another I'm surprised. Oh it's more than you expect, more 409 00:24:57,680 --> 00:24:59,920 Speaker 1: than I thought. I wouldn't even think they were let 410 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 1: that many of us get there, for sure. Yeah, they 411 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:07,240 Speaker 1: let thirteens slip through. And of those thirteen, all thirteen 412 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:11,720 Speaker 1: of them are black men with trash hairlines or that's 413 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:15,080 Speaker 1: the that's the breakdown. I think there's another lady in there, 414 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:20,159 Speaker 1: but that's not the way the bits go. And every 415 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:22,119 Speaker 1: single one of them, I'll read you something. Some of 416 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:27,080 Speaker 1: them are concrete tycoons and Michael Jordan's and uh yeah, 417 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:29,399 Speaker 1: I'm looking now. These are dudes. They just put on 418 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:36,240 Speaker 1: the number five guard and go straight back. I just 419 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:37,919 Speaker 1: run this through. I'm just run this through like a 420 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:40,679 Speaker 1: comb just straight back. Hey man, hit me with that 421 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:44,480 Speaker 1: lawnmower and keep it moving down. Time I have to 422 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:47,199 Speaker 1: go shut down an orphanage room. Take the perimeter, just 423 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:50,400 Speaker 1: take it down to take the shrubbery. You know, I 424 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:53,640 Speaker 1: think to your point, there's not a lot of evidence 425 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:57,120 Speaker 1: of like a dude at the highest level of at 426 00:25:57,160 --> 00:26:01,000 Speaker 1: least certainly like financial success that looks like he goes 427 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:03,240 Speaker 1: to a black barbershop. I'm telling you, it's all around 428 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:06,679 Speaker 1: the barbershop. These dudes are not known. I mean, you're 429 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:08,600 Speaker 1: a billionaire. First of all, you have your own barber, 430 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:15,600 Speaker 1: but this you ain't in the shop getting indoctuated being 431 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:18,520 Speaker 1: around other brothers. You're already a billionaire, so you're already 432 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:21,399 Speaker 1: a black billionaire. So you're already isolated. So your only 433 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:23,760 Speaker 1: peers of other white people, you know what I mean, 434 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:26,040 Speaker 1: you can't be in there with the waves and a 435 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:28,840 Speaker 1: wave cap, like get out of here. And at that point, 436 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:31,840 Speaker 1: who are you doing it for? Right? Like if, like 437 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:34,080 Speaker 1: you said, if my peers are all white people who 438 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:36,800 Speaker 1: give the fun if straight hair line, they can't tell 439 00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 1: the difference. Now, I will say I was surprised that 440 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:43,320 Speaker 1: jay Z went locks after billionaire. That's almost like a 441 00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:46,640 Speaker 1: little fuck you if you think about it. I mean, 442 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:48,879 Speaker 1: jay Z wasn't known for his hair to begin with. 443 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 1: True that, true that, But he's gone like in a 444 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:54,840 Speaker 1: real wacky way right now that you know I was 445 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:59,400 Speaker 1: surprised about. I almost jay Z is a fascinating one though, 446 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:02,360 Speaker 1: because I do you think he's almost playing both sides right, 447 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:05,520 Speaker 1: because you see this dude who now like you said, 448 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:08,320 Speaker 1: he sort of has like this afrol lock sort of 449 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:12,200 Speaker 1: look now, which makes him very like connected to Africa 450 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:16,440 Speaker 1: and blackness and all this other stuff, while simultaneously having 451 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:21,359 Speaker 1: a hairstyle that you see on like Cheerios commercials, do 452 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:23,000 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like they put like a 453 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:26,879 Speaker 1: curly haired black man in the Cheerios commercial and make him, 454 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:30,439 Speaker 1: uh say, how yummy honey is on his oaks? And 455 00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 1: I knew jay Z crossed over when he I saw 456 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:37,199 Speaker 1: footage of him. I think it was he was at 457 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:40,520 Speaker 1: a basketball game with Beyonce and the story was about 458 00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:43,359 Speaker 1: how they must have had an argument because Beyonce had 459 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 1: a bad look on her face or something. But what 460 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:49,520 Speaker 1: I noticed was at one point, jay Z spots another 461 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:52,880 Speaker 1: I can only assume super rich friend across the way, 462 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 1: and he waved at them in his hands straight out 463 00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:01,760 Speaker 1: and just did the fingers. That's that's I was like, 464 00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:08,320 Speaker 1: that's not Brooklyn bo Jason. Jay Z is waving like 465 00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:13,720 Speaker 1: to the lou Yes, a real fucking Samantha asked, wiggle 466 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:17,120 Speaker 1: figure a real see you at the tennis courts tomorrow 467 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:20,400 Speaker 1: type wave, and I was like, oh, they got him, so, 468 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:22,600 Speaker 1: so that's what makes the hair confusing because he is 469 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:25,399 Speaker 1: definitely playing both sides. I mean, I don't think he 470 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:27,920 Speaker 1: I think jay Z is a smart enough dude to 471 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:30,520 Speaker 1: be aware that, like, all right, I can't be a 472 00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:33,320 Speaker 1: trash hairline guy, but I can be sort of like 473 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:40,400 Speaker 1: this weird acartistic going in I collect paintings now in 474 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:45,040 Speaker 1: a museum technica. Yeah, I get it, yep, I love this. 475 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:48,200 Speaker 1: And there's so many other great examples of people who 476 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:50,640 Speaker 1: have reached sort of like a weird peak with like 477 00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:54,960 Speaker 1: terrible hairlines. Tiger Woods is a great example. Never got 478 00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:57,280 Speaker 1: but he did he have a claim us. I don't 479 00:28:57,280 --> 00:29:00,160 Speaker 1: think that Tiger ever said he was tell me had 480 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:02,480 Speaker 1: a black daddy. It's hard not to that was his 481 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:05,760 Speaker 1: best friend. I don't think that he wanted to, but right, 482 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:08,120 Speaker 1: I mean, I ain't pushing black on nobody don't want it. 483 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:12,160 Speaker 1: So that's why you ain't you only trying to say, 484 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:13,880 Speaker 1: be proud about it that I don't want you. But 485 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:16,360 Speaker 1: I just don't remember him ever saying that he's black, 486 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:24,480 Speaker 1: so he can had a headline for like that's fair. 487 00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:30,600 Speaker 1: I'm gonna read you a quote. Don't claim him. You're 488 00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:34,360 Speaker 1: not with me no more time. I'm not gay no more, 489 00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:42,080 Speaker 1: you tiger, you something else, right, He's his own category, 490 00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:45,480 Speaker 1: which is fine. So this has been an ongoing issue, 491 00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:49,400 Speaker 1: so much so that in Hollywood Reporter wrote an article 492 00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:53,720 Speaker 1: called Hollywood's Black hair problem on set We've all cried 493 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:57,000 Speaker 1: in our trailers, which basically chronicles like sort of and 494 00:29:57,080 --> 00:30:00,280 Speaker 1: it's primarily women, but it chronicles the exactly what you 495 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:05,480 Speaker 1: were talking about, Yes, black women sort of being cast 496 00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:09,880 Speaker 1: and then not having hairstylists on the other side and 497 00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:13,920 Speaker 1: learn to show up already done exactly, and that's one 498 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:16,320 Speaker 1: of the things that people say. In the article, Natasha 499 00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:19,240 Speaker 1: Rothwell talks a lot about how she has to wake 500 00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:22,000 Speaker 1: up an hour early from the time she would have 501 00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:24,920 Speaker 1: normally woke up just so she could do her hair, 502 00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:27,840 Speaker 1: show up on set and not let them like do 503 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:31,080 Speaker 1: something way worse to it. Again, off topic, because this 504 00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:35,360 Speaker 1: is about male hellines, but this also goes to white 505 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:38,000 Speaker 1: people not being around us. They don't even know what 506 00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:39,880 Speaker 1: our hair is supposed to look like. You know what 507 00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:43,200 Speaker 1: I mean, I've purposely showed up on set looking fucked 508 00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:45,360 Speaker 1: Like if I walked into a black room, y'all would 509 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:47,920 Speaker 1: be like, what the fun I've purposely gone on set 510 00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:49,960 Speaker 1: and being like, no, I'm good and have the hair 511 00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:52,160 Speaker 1: stylis look at me and like you look great, Like 512 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:58,400 Speaker 1: they have no idea. Yeah, they're like, okay, I have 513 00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 1: to be like no, I'm joking. I just woke up. 514 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:03,160 Speaker 1: Then they're like, oh, because they just don't know. Oh 515 00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:06,640 Speaker 1: thank god, I hated what I saw, but I didn't know. Yeah, 516 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:09,200 Speaker 1: not even that they hated that. They just don't know. Yeah, 517 00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:11,880 Speaker 1: they just don't know. I don't like the Oh, if 518 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:14,160 Speaker 1: you don't have any black friends, you not that, because 519 00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:16,600 Speaker 1: there's many places in America where you can walk around 520 00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:18,160 Speaker 1: for days and not see one of us, you know 521 00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:21,760 Speaker 1: what I mean. So, but once you get up into 522 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:24,720 Speaker 1: Hollywood and you and where on set, these are things 523 00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:28,760 Speaker 1: we have to even have someone who knows for they 524 00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:30,760 Speaker 1: have to be trained. They're not training them to do 525 00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:33,360 Speaker 1: our hair, which means that this is an industry that 526 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:35,840 Speaker 1: was set up with no thought of us ever being 527 00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:39,760 Speaker 1: in it, right, you know, I think that's exactly right. 528 00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:42,840 Speaker 1: And this is where it gets even more fascinating for me, 529 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:48,920 Speaker 1: is that this conversation extends well beyond the industry, right that, like, 530 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:52,360 Speaker 1: there's so many different examples of sort of this war 531 00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:57,800 Speaker 1: on black hair in other spaces. For example, a student 532 00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:01,000 Speaker 1: is sent home from Christ the King Elementary School in Terrytown, 533 00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:05,160 Speaker 1: Louisiana because she's wearing box braids. They basically just decide 534 00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:07,840 Speaker 1: box braids are wrong. For a different time in two 535 00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:10,880 Speaker 1: thousand and eighteen, where a six year old a six 536 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,920 Speaker 1: year old is sent home band from school because he 537 00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:17,320 Speaker 1: has locks, and the principal like justifies this as being 538 00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:20,160 Speaker 1: a rule that's been in the schools like doctrine since 539 00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:23,080 Speaker 1: nineteen seventy one, and he's like, dude, I'm the first 540 00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:31,240 Speaker 1: black person hit right, right, I never it's a racial band. 541 00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:35,840 Speaker 1: You're just asking it under protective hairstyle, right. And this 542 00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:38,560 Speaker 1: is also again, this is fair of the unknown. They 543 00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:41,160 Speaker 1: don't know what these hairstyles means. It makes them uncomfortable. 544 00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:44,680 Speaker 1: It's not they're not around it. They don't. It's too different, 545 00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:50,640 Speaker 1: it's too black, and it reminds them that we exists. Basically, yes, 546 00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:53,920 Speaker 1: and to your earlier point, nineteen seventy one was when 547 00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:56,760 Speaker 1: you established this rule, because you're basing it off of 548 00:32:56,840 --> 00:33:01,360 Speaker 1: fears that existed in nine exactly, like, we're not even 549 00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:03,800 Speaker 1: afraid of the same ship that we were afraid in 550 00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:07,080 Speaker 1: nineteen seventy one. We were afraid that Russians were gonna 551 00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:10,720 Speaker 1: knuke us through like weird satellites in the sky. Now 552 00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:14,600 Speaker 1: we know they're gonna knoke us through like elections and 553 00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:19,760 Speaker 1: weird emails and Facebook messages, and it's a completely different world. 554 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:22,160 Speaker 1: And they're more of a poisoning kind of people rather 555 00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:24,480 Speaker 1: than nukes. And now we're finding out, you know, that's 556 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:26,640 Speaker 1: their thing. We would see in the bombs they do. 557 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:31,480 Speaker 1: They're more poison people. You know some correct yourself, yeah, 558 00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:36,080 Speaker 1: update your but talking about I mean, this is also 559 00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:38,520 Speaker 1: entertainment industry, but I feel like the patron saint of 560 00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:43,280 Speaker 1: safe hairstyles. It's Bill Cosby, Bill Tosby and every dude 561 00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:48,520 Speaker 1: that he had on that show. Yes, Elvin, Elvin's thirty campus, 562 00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:53,200 Speaker 1: trash that hit cut, the dude in the military, Denise's husband, 563 00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:57,080 Speaker 1: trash like that never had a sweet line up on them. 564 00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:59,280 Speaker 1: If anyone of them girls showed up with a do 565 00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:02,720 Speaker 1: rag nigga and lost his mind, yeah, I think that's 566 00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:06,720 Speaker 1: now you're talking. Now you're really talking. Because THEO was 567 00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:09,200 Speaker 1: about to go on a date wearing a Gordon Guard 568 00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:15,279 Speaker 1: trail and had a trash lineup. He wouldn't even let 569 00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:18,600 Speaker 1: THEE have a real flat top. It was like it 570 00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:23,680 Speaker 1: was an afro that he panted into a flat. Uh, 571 00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:27,560 Speaker 1: he shaped into a flat And I think Cosby knew 572 00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:30,560 Speaker 1: the whole time. Cosby was the king of of sort 573 00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:34,960 Speaker 1: of like respectability politics, and that man knew that if 574 00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:39,320 Speaker 1: he had THEO looking too much like Jalen Roseye, THEO 575 00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:43,320 Speaker 1: was not an endearing character to his white audience exactly 576 00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:45,360 Speaker 1: that it would have It would have been a special episode. 577 00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:50,800 Speaker 1: THEO gets a line UPO gets a lineup and gets 578 00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:55,000 Speaker 1: kicked out of the family, Like you've been over to Flatbush. Well, 579 00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:59,520 Speaker 1: you know who cut your hair? Was like in a 580 00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:03,080 Speaker 1: Clinton Hill or something, right, Yeah, it was like Brooklyn Heights. 581 00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:06,680 Speaker 1: So that that episode, THEO went across the tracks Tosh 582 00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:09,600 Speaker 1: or whatever and got a haircut, and now the whole 583 00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:11,680 Speaker 1: family got to do a dance to convince him to 584 00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:14,920 Speaker 1: come back. THEO took the two train too far, and 585 00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:21,279 Speaker 1: now we don't know if we swim anymore. Right, all right? 586 00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:25,520 Speaker 1: So in two thousand nineteen, and this is interesting, Corey 587 00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:29,920 Speaker 1: Booker into another trash hairline. Uh. Corey Booker introduced the 588 00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:33,840 Speaker 1: Crown Act, which is an act meant to protect against 589 00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:38,240 Speaker 1: discrimination based on hair, specifically for black people with tightly 590 00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:42,480 Speaker 1: coiled or protective styles. Uh. And it's only been accepted 591 00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:46,919 Speaker 1: since two thousand nineteen in three states, California, New York, 592 00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:49,840 Speaker 1: and New Jersey. Everybody else can still fire you or 593 00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:52,960 Speaker 1: keep you from a school based on your hair if 594 00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:54,920 Speaker 1: they want to. And let me tell you that that 595 00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:57,480 Speaker 1: this was a conscious choice. But this is why comedy 596 00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:00,600 Speaker 1: has been such a relief for me, because I've had 597 00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:03,480 Speaker 1: corporate jobs and worked in offices, and I just cannot 598 00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:07,160 Speaker 1: see me as myself as an adult having other adults 599 00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:09,160 Speaker 1: telling me what to do with my head. It's just 600 00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:13,759 Speaker 1: it's so demeaning. It's so demeaning, it's so Uh. You 601 00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:19,160 Speaker 1: take people's humanity, like become be this other thing in 602 00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:23,120 Speaker 1: order to earn money for the job that you're doing. Right, 603 00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:26,000 Speaker 1: take And I think that's such an important point because 604 00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:28,400 Speaker 1: I think at the essence of what we're talking about 605 00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:32,320 Speaker 1: is an ability to take away someone's confidence, right, the 606 00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:37,680 Speaker 1: thing that makes them feel most themselves. Oftentimes we look 607 00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:42,360 Speaker 1: exactly and so I do think to your earlier point, 608 00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:47,799 Speaker 1: this is like an intentional want to damage our confidence 609 00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:53,600 Speaker 1: and keep us in this place of emotional disarray force assimilation. Yeah, 610 00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:56,440 Speaker 1: so either you look a little ashy, you look a 611 00:36:56,480 --> 00:37:00,239 Speaker 1: little bummy, or you look your best, but you're not 612 00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:04,000 Speaker 1: welcome in you know, whatever country. And also your best 613 00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:06,759 Speaker 1: intimidates me. I don't like you looking better than me. Yeah, 614 00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:09,760 Speaker 1: we'll look better than a black man, shined up, teeth 615 00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:13,920 Speaker 1: flinging charm. He's spinning your wife out at the company 616 00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:16,799 Speaker 1: picnic and ship she giggling. Nobody wants that. Come in 617 00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:19,400 Speaker 1: here with this fun up line up and stop intimidating me. 618 00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:23,160 Speaker 1: That's one I'm scared to put Idris in the James bond. 619 00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:26,080 Speaker 1: Come on, who do you want to go? Follow him? 620 00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:29,319 Speaker 1: They because they know that white tuxedo that's gonna look 621 00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:33,000 Speaker 1: better on that chocolate skin than anybody. But Idris gets bond, 622 00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:35,680 Speaker 1: his love interest is gonna be the blackest bitch on 623 00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:41,160 Speaker 1: the planet. It's they will never let him. It just 624 00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:44,719 Speaker 1: blows up the whole, just the whole theory that this 625 00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:48,080 Speaker 1: is like the best thing if you make him bond, 626 00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:50,680 Speaker 1: and so you have to keep him sort of, you know, 627 00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:54,080 Speaker 1: they need him be loother. It's also it's him with 628 00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:57,600 Speaker 1: a trans hairline. That's the only difference I mean he 629 00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:02,360 Speaker 1: pulls it off. But anyway, all right, put your loins away, 630 00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:06,680 Speaker 1: let's focus on the argument here. All wet over there, 631 00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:08,800 Speaker 1: let's forgot. I ain't got no shirt on. I forgot. 632 00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:11,920 Speaker 1: I bumped up on the table for men and got excited. 633 00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:15,359 Speaker 1: My bad um. But in his British luthor, yeah, all 634 00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:17,880 Speaker 1: his love interests are white women. I don't know if 635 00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:20,200 Speaker 1: you know, and his sidekicks are black women. I'm saying 636 00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:23,960 Speaker 1: if they did a bond that was a US based production, 637 00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:27,120 Speaker 1: they would not let him have a white love interest. 638 00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:31,000 Speaker 1: I don't It wouldn't be alec wet or something like 639 00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:35,120 Speaker 1: that he would have to have because part of it 640 00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:39,640 Speaker 1: is again where the theory being that certain white people 641 00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:44,640 Speaker 1: are still afraid of old uh stereotypes. The black buck 642 00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:48,960 Speaker 1: that's coming to still your woman really does play into that. 643 00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:53,440 Speaker 1: So right, my guesses is that if they make him 644 00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:56,640 Speaker 1: the bond that he deserves to be, they're probably gonna 645 00:38:56,680 --> 00:39:00,759 Speaker 1: give him like some vaguely ethnically like sort of ambiguous 646 00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:05,560 Speaker 1: woman to give him like a Prianka Chopra what I mean, 647 00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:09,640 Speaker 1: and let that be his love interest that doesn't offend 648 00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:12,600 Speaker 1: them as much as black women do. For whatever reason, 649 00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:16,600 Speaker 1: the idea of black women having sex consensually is very 650 00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:24,439 Speaker 1: upsetting to Hollywood. That's a whole other bagga. Yeah, yeah, 651 00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:26,960 Speaker 1: it gets sad at the end. I get that. All right, 652 00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:29,000 Speaker 1: We're gonna take another break and we'll be back with 653 00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:31,759 Speaker 1: more Janelle James and more of My mama told me 654 00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:46,200 Speaker 1: we are back. I got brown guidance. Ain't nobody got 655 00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:49,400 Speaker 1: time for that. We're back here with more. My mama 656 00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:53,520 Speaker 1: told me more Janelle James. We have I think fully 657 00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:57,239 Speaker 1: unpacked the possibility that this is all rooted in a 658 00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:00,680 Speaker 1: fear of the black barbershop and really a fear of 659 00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:04,560 Speaker 1: black revolution that they, the white people, think is coming 660 00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:08,719 Speaker 1: out of the black barbershop. It's all scary and exciting. 661 00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:10,719 Speaker 1: I love where we're headed. And you know, jokes on 662 00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:14,360 Speaker 1: them because those heirlines, I mean, I feel like that's 663 00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:20,000 Speaker 1: some undercovered spyship. Okay, okay, I like where this is going. 664 00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:23,600 Speaker 1: Tell me more so you trusting the fun up heirlines, 665 00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:25,880 Speaker 1: But they know what they're doing to get up in 666 00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:30,080 Speaker 1: your space. Yeah, you you fucked up my airline, but 667 00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:33,480 Speaker 1: you didn't take my mind from me. I still connected 668 00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:38,680 Speaker 1: to any I'm I'm still working with a people. So yeah, okay, 669 00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:42,120 Speaker 1: that's right. You made my airline look like sharp teeth. 670 00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:46,040 Speaker 1: But guess what, motherfucker, I'm gonna go report back everything 671 00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:48,759 Speaker 1: I've learned on set or in this community or in 672 00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:58,200 Speaker 1: this boardroom channel, Barbershop Network. We gonna get you, motherfucker. 673 00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:02,200 Speaker 1: Oh my god. All right, let's play a game. I 674 00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:04,960 Speaker 1: have a fun game that I like to play. This 675 00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:09,400 Speaker 1: game is called Ugly. You're disgusting. I'm gonna kill you. 676 00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:12,799 Speaker 1: Give me two. This is white Lines. It's a it's 677 00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:16,280 Speaker 1: a fun game where I will introduce to you, Janelle, 678 00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:20,920 Speaker 1: a traditional white conspiracy, a very famous white conspiracy. And 679 00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:22,880 Speaker 1: then I would like you to take the time to 680 00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:26,680 Speaker 1: unpack that conspiracy, really break it all down. Why do 681 00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:29,880 Speaker 1: you think white people care about this conspiracy so much? 682 00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:34,560 Speaker 1: What are these sneaky motherfucker's up to? Yeah, but your 683 00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:41,600 Speaker 1: goofy on, uh, put on, light up your eyes, do 684 00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:44,719 Speaker 1: whatever you gotta do to really to really open that 685 00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:47,000 Speaker 1: third eye. And let's get into this. Have you ever 686 00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:51,560 Speaker 1: heard of the conspiracy Paul is Dead? No? Okay, so 687 00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:56,240 Speaker 1: there is a conspiracy, a claim that the Beatles member 688 00:41:56,280 --> 00:42:00,280 Speaker 1: Paul McCartney in nineteen sixty six died in a car crash, 689 00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:04,000 Speaker 1: and uh, he was replaced by a man named Billy 690 00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:08,239 Speaker 1: Shears who looked like him and then became the Paul 691 00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:13,320 Speaker 1: McCartney we now know today. This has been spread over 692 00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:18,319 Speaker 1: decades of Beatles you know whatever conspiracies, and so much 693 00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:20,920 Speaker 1: so that even in the cover of Abbey Road they 694 00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:25,439 Speaker 1: claimed that Paul is wearing a suit that signifies him 695 00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:27,880 Speaker 1: at his funeral and he has no shoes on as 696 00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:31,440 Speaker 1: he's crossing Abbey Road, which I guess implies that he is. 697 00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:33,799 Speaker 1: I don't know, bare Field get buried in You don't 698 00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:37,319 Speaker 1: get buried in shoes, don't Yeah, listen, I don't get 699 00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:39,279 Speaker 1: what they're doing. But what I would love for you 700 00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:43,399 Speaker 1: to do is explained to me. Why after decades of 701 00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:47,760 Speaker 1: this conspiracy continuing, why it is so important that white 702 00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:51,840 Speaker 1: people believe that Paul McCartney died in that car crash. 703 00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:55,360 Speaker 1: That's a tough one because, uh, it makes absolutely no sense, 704 00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:59,000 Speaker 1: But so they the conspiracy is that they want to 705 00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:02,680 Speaker 1: believe that he's dead. Maybe they know that they've founded 706 00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:06,439 Speaker 1: him and the Beatles, and you know, it's such bad 707 00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:09,239 Speaker 1: because the Beatles were the Michael Jackson of their time. 708 00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:12,600 Speaker 1: You know what I mean right right. They were the biggest, 709 00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:15,840 Speaker 1: they were the baddest, they were all the things. I 710 00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:18,800 Speaker 1: would think a better conspiracy would be that he faked 711 00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:21,680 Speaker 1: his death or something like that to get away from 712 00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:24,520 Speaker 1: the limelight and he was tired of the of the 713 00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:27,520 Speaker 1: business and then kind of like Tupac is in in 714 00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:32,400 Speaker 1: on an Island, chilling, right, Okay, that Paul McCartney just 715 00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:35,520 Speaker 1: wanted out from the property. I can't even wrap my 716 00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:38,880 Speaker 1: mind around this conspiracy that he's dead and replaced for what? 717 00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:42,200 Speaker 1: For what purpose? Is are the Beatles still touring? Is 718 00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:47,000 Speaker 1: he's still collecting? Right? Right? At this point, Paul McCartney 719 00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:49,880 Speaker 1: just shows up on S and L every day. Was 720 00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:52,359 Speaker 1: he murdered? Is that part of the conspiracy? That well, 721 00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:54,800 Speaker 1: it was that the car crash killed him on accident. 722 00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:57,600 Speaker 1: It wasn't on purpose. And so instead of I think 723 00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:00,480 Speaker 1: the hope or at least what they're suggest thing is 724 00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:03,879 Speaker 1: that instead of losing the Beatles and their front man, 725 00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:08,640 Speaker 1: right because him and Lennon were basically like they just 726 00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:12,800 Speaker 1: they just happened to have a ringer just ready to 727 00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:15,799 Speaker 1: jump in, just just ready at the ready, because they 728 00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:21,799 Speaker 1: had already thought about this, like what if if fall dies, 729 00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:25,319 Speaker 1: we're gonna who we're gonna have. We're blowing up right now, 730 00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:28,520 Speaker 1: and I can't suck this money up. So like I 731 00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:34,600 Speaker 1: that's that is fun to believe that every famous artist 732 00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:38,920 Speaker 1: has a double placement dude, that that the evil record 733 00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:41,279 Speaker 1: company just has on standby, like y'all about to sunk 734 00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:45,360 Speaker 1: up this money. We now, we gotta finish this towards Billy. 735 00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:49,640 Speaker 1: You up like you're saying Bruno Mars was in a 736 00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:53,200 Speaker 1: plane crash. Well that's you, James. You gotta come on, 737 00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:55,640 Speaker 1: you gotta go do your job. You see how fast 738 00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:58,479 Speaker 1: they got Kevin Hard out of that car accident, Like yeah, 739 00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:04,319 Speaker 1: I mean conspiracy right, know what happened with that whole situation? Uh? Kevin? 740 00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:05,640 Speaker 1: I respect you and would love to work on the 741 00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:12,720 Speaker 1: movie with you. Later you'll see Janelle and Pets three 742 00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:19,600 Speaker 1: coming out. Fingers motherfucking crossed. Um. I think this is 743 00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:23,560 Speaker 1: a fascinating train to go down that Hollywood does have fixers. 744 00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:25,960 Speaker 1: I do believe in that people that make things happen, 745 00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:29,480 Speaker 1: and but I don't know why people would want to 746 00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:32,719 Speaker 1: believe this conspiracy. Well, I think to your point, it 747 00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:36,319 Speaker 1: really is the maintaining of the status quo. Right, that like, 748 00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:41,239 Speaker 1: as long as this person continues to exist and and 749 00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:46,120 Speaker 1: these entities seem unharmed and unchanged, we have our power. 750 00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:48,799 Speaker 1: At the point that they seem fallible, they can be 751 00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:53,920 Speaker 1: broken suddenly our power is not as everlasting. And yeah, 752 00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:57,120 Speaker 1: kind of. But the conspiracy is that people think he's 753 00:45:57,160 --> 00:46:00,160 Speaker 1: dead though, so it's not. They don't believe that this 754 00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:02,880 Speaker 1: current Paul McCartney, who I just googled, that's on a 755 00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:06,960 Speaker 1: canoe on a river somewhere, enjoying quarantine. They don't think 756 00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:11,319 Speaker 1: that's him. Goddamn sense to me, right, But that's the Internet, right, 757 00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:14,920 Speaker 1: or that's the Internet of old. I think that the powers, 758 00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:18,400 Speaker 1: what is their motivation for it? I think their want 759 00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:22,200 Speaker 1: is to maintain status quo. Now to your point, why 760 00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:26,319 Speaker 1: do random people want to believe that? Right? That's the 761 00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:28,560 Speaker 1: part that scares me. I can understand wanting to believe 762 00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:31,239 Speaker 1: to pockets still alive, but wanting to believe that Paul 763 00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:33,840 Speaker 1: McCartney is dead and it's now replaced. And it's not 764 00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:36,279 Speaker 1: even some out there conspiracy like he's been replaced by 765 00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:41,439 Speaker 1: lizard person or an alien or cloning or anything. It's 766 00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:46,799 Speaker 1: a man named Jimmy. She dude, he's not. That's not 767 00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:50,840 Speaker 1: even a sexy name. Nobody gets corny for Jimmy Shears. 768 00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:53,480 Speaker 1: They find him in a hotel lobby and a Beatles 769 00:46:53,520 --> 00:47:00,600 Speaker 1: cover band and they say, hey, get those shoes off. 770 00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:04,200 Speaker 1: We're gonna need to make a weird album cover. We 771 00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:06,160 Speaker 1: wanted to be dead, but we want to tell people 772 00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:08,520 Speaker 1: a secret to he alive. I mean the whole thing. 773 00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:11,080 Speaker 1: Don't ask questions. There's got some money, We'll leave some 774 00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:15,479 Speaker 1: little hints and everywhere we go you'll you'll be Paul 775 00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:21,600 Speaker 1: from down. Yeah, we don't give a fuck. We're willing 776 00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:27,000 Speaker 1: to risk it all for a little old Marges towards death. Well, Janelle, 777 00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:28,839 Speaker 1: I think we did it. Couldn't think we nailed it. 778 00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:31,880 Speaker 1: This was a fantastic episode. Could you tell the people 779 00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:34,279 Speaker 1: where they can find you any cool stuff you have 780 00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:38,040 Speaker 1: going on? Yeah, you can find me on line and 781 00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:41,360 Speaker 1: in my online you know, and in my house basically 782 00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:46,239 Speaker 1: because I'm in quarantine like everybody else. Uh. But watch 783 00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:50,160 Speaker 1: Black Monday. Uh, I'm on season two and it's a 784 00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:53,239 Speaker 1: fantastic black ass show and I'm proud of it. Watch 785 00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:57,880 Speaker 1: my Netflix. Uh comedy lineup? Uh, I don't know, Google me. 786 00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:01,000 Speaker 1: I'm out there. Yeah, google her, she's out there and 787 00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:06,400 Speaker 1: uh Netflix her Netflix specialist hilarious Black Monday. Listen to 788 00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:09,200 Speaker 1: my album Black and Mile. The comic just offered to 789 00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:11,080 Speaker 1: pay me to listen to my album, which is like 790 00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:14,600 Speaker 1: it's quarantine dropping everybody crazy that's crazy and will send 791 00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:21,200 Speaker 1: their email over to me. I was touched, but but yeah, 792 00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:23,239 Speaker 1: listen to that. It's the thing I'm most proud of. 793 00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:29,439 Speaker 1: And I guess my kids too or whatever. But yeah, yeah, yeah, 794 00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:32,279 Speaker 1: I guess my kids cool. But Black and Mild That's 795 00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:34,719 Speaker 1: where I really feel like I nailed it. I kill 796 00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:38,840 Speaker 1: that ship. All right. Well, this has been another episode 797 00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:42,000 Speaker 1: of My Mama told me once again, follow us and 798 00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:45,360 Speaker 1: and like and subscribe on whatever platforms you do that ship. 799 00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:49,279 Speaker 1: Oh and last thing, if you have anything that you 800 00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:53,799 Speaker 1: would like to send us, drops, artwork, alien, dick Pis, 801 00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:57,080 Speaker 1: whatever it may be, please send those to my Mama 802 00:48:57,160 --> 00:48:59,880 Speaker 1: pot at gmail dot com. I would love to see it. 803 00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:02,319 Speaker 1: I would love to read it. I would love to 804 00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:06,080 Speaker 1: experience it and potentially play it in one of our episodes. 805 00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:13,800 Speaker 1: Have a good day because I've been grown Davies my 806 00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:18,920 Speaker 1: crop chips in your hands a quala mares are racist. 807 00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:28,520 Speaker 1: The also players, mostly money, runy turkey stuff I can't 808 00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:29,000 Speaker 1: tell me