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Speaker 1: Happy Happy holidays, Brown Ambition Fam, it's Mandra here. As

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Speaker 1: you guys know, Tiff and I are taking a little

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Speaker 1: break before the new year, but we've still got you

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Speaker 1: covered with some of our favorite Brown Ambition moments from

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty one. All throughout this month, we're looking back

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Speaker 1: at memorable conversations and breaking down the most important lessons

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Speaker 1: we've learned this year. We can't thank you enough for

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Speaker 1: sticking by us and what has become one of our

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Speaker 1: biggest years for the show ever. So many amazing memories

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Speaker 1: from this year, and I cannot wait to revisit some

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Speaker 1: of them with all of you. Guys.

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Speaker 2: Are beloved BA fam.

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Speaker 3: Hey, hey, hey, I always forget this is not the budget, Like, wait,

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Speaker 3: we're back, We're blacken.

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Speaker 1: And hey Mandra, hey, I feel weird that I was

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Speaker 1: just like.

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Speaker 3: Dude, I know, Mandra came to my house and you

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Speaker 3: got to meet my niece Pooh and mype my nephew Pooh.

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Speaker 1: I did well. First of all, it was so good

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Speaker 1: to see you in person, it really was. And even

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Speaker 1: with your gimp shoulder, you know, I forgot about your

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Speaker 1: gimpy shoulder. But I was like even before that, I

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Speaker 1: was like don't squeeze her too hard like ring. But

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Speaker 1: it was really really good to see you. It fed

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Speaker 1: my soul to see you, and you guys will see

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Speaker 1: that what we were up to. It's been almost six

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Speaker 1: years and we have not had a fresh new luke

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Speaker 1: as they say, in almost six years for the podcast.

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Speaker 1: So you were getting some new picks taken.

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Speaker 3: Yes, and honestly they were. They look fire. I'm just

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Speaker 3: really excited because no, they do. Because well, one I

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Speaker 3: brought in my makeup artist, Leela Nima shout out to you, Mala,

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Speaker 3: she's a lie l I l A n e E

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Speaker 3: m A on instant. Honestly, she's great because she's fast,

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Speaker 3: she's professional and like you know, Mandy and I could

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Speaker 3: not look more different. And yet the sleigh was was

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Speaker 1: For us both, and I trusted her fully. I was like,

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Speaker 1: so I will trust you. Ever has been doing her face,

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Speaker 1: so Leila did it, and she's she's a true artist.

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Speaker 1: And I don't take makeup artists for granted, but she yeah,

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Speaker 1: like you were saying, I mean, she knows exactly what

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Speaker 1: for that medium. And yeah, six years ago, I did

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Speaker 1: not have Alila. I did not have money for Alila.

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Speaker 1: I had my sad little drug store makeup and make

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Speaker 3: You know, and I looked at I looked at the

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Speaker 3: Because I know that eyelighter that is a Tiffany special.

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Speaker 3: I was looking at it. I was like, oh my god,

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Speaker 1: So yeah, black girl magic all the way down, all

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was like, and I'm because honestly, my niece

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Speaker 3: So no, that was really fun. We just honestly, I

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Speaker 1: It's like it was coming from the inside. It was

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Speaker 1: And I think my mind was really in a good place,

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Speaker 3: Yes, speaking of minds and my mindset, so lately I

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Speaker 3: I also have doctor Green who's my who's my professional coach,

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Speaker 3: So okay mm hm. So we have a year contract,

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Speaker 3: my assumption is like, let's just say, like I told

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Speaker 3: And I was like okay. I went through and I

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Speaker 3: I was like, Okay, Logan, let's share this, and I said,

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Speaker 3: and it's it is. I would say, ninety to ninety

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Speaker 3: that was just one email. And since then, I mean,

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Speaker 3: I've done partnerships with people. The last one that we

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Speaker 3: three she's four, but really verbal. But I just remember

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Speaker 3: thinking to myself, like that's the kind that's when you're

429
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Speaker 3: doing this exercise. Do it with like with a millia energy.

430
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Speaker 3: You want to go to the park, pet the dog,

431
00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:51,040
Speaker 3: you know, have a picnic, bubble bath, mars, everything without hesitation,

432
00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:54,640
Speaker 3: without limitation. Just let your act as if your your

433
00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:57,040
Speaker 3: your little self, your preschool or self that didn't have

434
00:20:57,080 --> 00:21:00,399
Speaker 3: any limitation. Write it down, speak it if that's what

435
00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:03,560
Speaker 3: works for best for you, because we have forgotten how

436
00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:06,520
Speaker 3: to dream. Dame Dash has his videos that just came

437
00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:09,720
Speaker 3: up Mandy that said sorry. It was like Dame Dash,

438
00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:12,440
Speaker 3: you know jay Z's ex manager. He was like, yo,

439
00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:15,200
Speaker 3: y'all be out here dreaming cheap as a dream costs money.

440
00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:17,359
Speaker 3: He said, Yo, dreams are free. You know that right,

441
00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:19,960
Speaker 3: That ten million dollars dream costs you the same amount

442
00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:22,240
Speaker 3: of money to have that one hundred thousand dollars dream.

443
00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:25,040
Speaker 3: So like, why are you going cheap on your dream

444
00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:28,840
Speaker 3: when it's absolutely free? And That's what I'm wanting. And

445
00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:30,679
Speaker 3: so that's one of the ways to start that to

446
00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:34,240
Speaker 3: open up that feeling inside you, you know that like,

447
00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:36,920
Speaker 3: let me dream big and huge. It's not about whether

448
00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:38,400
Speaker 3: you're going to get it or out. You're just going

449
00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:41,040
Speaker 3: to say the thing because if you can't dream the thing,

450
00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:43,800
Speaker 3: you certainly cannot have the thing. It's very difficult to

451
00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:45,919
Speaker 3: have a thing that you that you have not you know,

452
00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:49,760
Speaker 3: at least thought about. So it starts really from there,

453
00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:55,160
Speaker 3: and it's just such a powerful lesson and tool, right

454
00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:58,359
Speaker 3: because it's just I promise you, if you dream small,

455
00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:01,000
Speaker 3: you live small, because one of the things you will

456
00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:02,560
Speaker 3: start to realize. I was talking to a young woman

457
00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:04,960
Speaker 3: today who asked me to be her mentor, and she

458
00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:08,960
Speaker 3: was was she asking me? She was saying, you know, like, well,

459
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Speaker 3: I don't know if I can have that. And I said,

460
00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:13,719
Speaker 3: you know, has anybody else ever gotten that? And she

461
00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:15,880
Speaker 3: said yes, And so I'm gonna Cause she was Nigeriana

462
00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:18,119
Speaker 3: Nigeria as well, and actually her name was She's the

463
00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:20,879
Speaker 3: only other Adoche I've ever met. My African name is

464
00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:23,639
Speaker 3: Adochi and her African name's Adoche as well. And she

465
00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:26,320
Speaker 3: was like, I said, you already know, Like what what

466
00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:28,200
Speaker 3: would a Nigerian tell you? She would be like, well,

467
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Speaker 3: do they have two heads? My dad would say that,

468
00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:32,760
Speaker 3: Like if I came home with a b and I

469
00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:34,600
Speaker 3: was happy about it, he was like, you're happy about

470
00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:39,080
Speaker 3: this bee? Did anybody get a I'm like Mandy got a,

471
00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:43,480
Speaker 3: Oh Mendy got an a? Does Mendy have two hits?

472
00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:47,760
Speaker 3: Because the implication there is unless Mandy has two brains,

473
00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:50,760
Speaker 3: why she out here gay age and you ain't? Meaning

474
00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:55,080
Speaker 3: ads were being given sis go get you one, so

475
00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:58,720
Speaker 3: meaning that like people are making millions, sis go.

476
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Speaker 1: Make you some where. There's the line though, because we

477
00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:04,800
Speaker 1: I think we I mean, just to be Devil's advocate,

478
00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:08,399
Speaker 1: you can it can backfire in the sense of, you know,

479
00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:11,720
Speaker 1: looking at other people and comparing yourself constantly and never

480
00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:15,080
Speaker 1: being happy with what you've got. And I think the

481
00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:18,320
Speaker 1: the pessimist that I was that you know that nature

482
00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:20,119
Speaker 1: walk when I was trying to sell this book idea

483
00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:23,960
Speaker 1: about mediocrity. I think also there's a bit of there's

484
00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:26,760
Speaker 1: a bit of a lesson there in that sometimes it's

485
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Speaker 1: like you want to dream big, but you also have

486
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Speaker 1: to dream dream from a place of like a positive

487
00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:36,320
Speaker 1: mindset that you're happy with what you have, like you're

488
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Speaker 1: you're it's almost like you're you're comfortable and you are content,

489
00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:42,760
Speaker 1: but you're and you're not dreaming because you're not content

490
00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:45,919
Speaker 1: with the core what really matters, like your core, you know,

491
00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:47,960
Speaker 1: your core self, like you know who you are. You

492
00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:49,760
Speaker 1: have your family, you have friends, you have a good

493
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Speaker 1: support system. You know what I'm saying, Like.

494
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Speaker 3: We're not telling dreams are not like that. When I said, amiliar,

495
00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:56,920
Speaker 3: what do you want to do this weekend? She didn't

496
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Speaker 3: say unlike like well like my my r from preschool.

497
00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:04,840
Speaker 3: I know she's just pulling from the experiences she saw

498
00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:08,000
Speaker 3: out of Space on whatever Netflix thing she was watching,

499
00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:10,560
Speaker 3: was like, that seems cool. Want to try that. So

500
00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:13,719
Speaker 3: she knew that Rihanna had a dog because we've been

501
00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:15,600
Speaker 3: talking about it. That seems cool. Want to try that?

502
00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:19,399
Speaker 3: I think. So the key with dreaming it's not that

503
00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:23,760
Speaker 3: you're looking at what Mandy has to say I want

504
00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:26,919
Speaker 3: it because Mandy has it. What you're looking at what

505
00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:31,560
Speaker 3: Mandy has, it's the evidence that it exists. You see

506
00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:34,679
Speaker 3: what I mean, meaning that, wait, there are people that

507
00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:37,639
Speaker 3: have accomplished this. That fills me with hope and joy.

508
00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:40,840
Speaker 3: It's doable, it's doable.

509
00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:43,880
Speaker 1: Or if not that specific thing is doable, something as

510
00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:47,000
Speaker 1: big or your own version, your own version of that,

511
00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:50,080
Speaker 1: Like you're not trying to go move to Portugal, No,

512
00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:52,639
Speaker 1: not at all and have the one anchor garden like

513
00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:58,119
Speaker 1: Christina Lamane you're on your own journey toward because of

514
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Speaker 1: what it rep.

515
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Speaker 3: Likes to me is I didn't like, I'm not interested

516
00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:04,280
Speaker 3: in moving to Portugal at all. But what I looked

517
00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:07,719
Speaker 3: at Emon and Christina from our rich journey is what

518
00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:11,320
Speaker 3: it made me realize is that it is possible to

519
00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:15,399
Speaker 3: find that level of joy and have done the work

520
00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:17,919
Speaker 3: and to leave it like Tiffy, you ain't gotta keep

521
00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:19,919
Speaker 3: going if you don't want to, like, joy can be found,

522
00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:23,080
Speaker 3: and I just so it was I looked at them

523
00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:26,359
Speaker 3: as the possibility of living and joy like that. Not

524
00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:28,800
Speaker 3: that I wanted like their life, not at all, but

525
00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:31,800
Speaker 3: I wanted to like they they gave me hope, like

526
00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:36,399
Speaker 3: this level of joy is possible in this crazy you know,

527
00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:41,040
Speaker 3: just like topsy turvy world, we're overworking, you get a

528
00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:44,720
Speaker 3: badge for doing the most. Here are people who are

529
00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:46,959
Speaker 3: doing exactly what they wanted to do. They're not doing

530
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Speaker 3: the least, they're not doing the most, They're doing the

531
00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:51,560
Speaker 3: just right and are happy with it. So yeah, so

532
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Speaker 3: I want yes to mand it to your point, you're

533
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Speaker 3: not using other people to make yourself feel bad. It's

534
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Speaker 3: more so to give you the in the apps sense

535
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Speaker 3: of hope. Looking to say that there is a version

536
00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:08,240
Speaker 3: of that life out there. Here's proof. Wow, it's accessible

537
00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:08,960
Speaker 3: to me as well.

538
00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:13,919
Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, yeah.

539
00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:15,720
Speaker 3: So it's just like I just you know, wanting that

540
00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:19,920
Speaker 3: for us because I just honestly, I'm more excited because honestly, Mandy,

541
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:21,840
Speaker 3: up until now, even though it doesn't seem like it,

542
00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:25,200
Speaker 3: because so much has happened, I really pulled back a lot,

543
00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:29,240
Speaker 3: like meaning that I could, I could have accomplished much more,

544
00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:33,160
Speaker 3: but I purposefully do less because I've attached with accomplishing

545
00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:35,159
Speaker 3: more to working more. So I'm like, no, I'm not

546
00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:36,440
Speaker 3: gonna do a left no, no, no, and.

547
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Speaker 1: Even more so now smarter not harder.

548
00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:41,640
Speaker 3: Exactly, I want to do go deep instead of wide,

549
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:46,880
Speaker 3: Like Tiffany, how do I do accomplish more while doing less?

550
00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:49,520
Speaker 3: It is more than possible. And now that I've opened

551
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:52,200
Speaker 3: up my mindset all of a sudden, Mandy, like, literally

552
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:54,959
Speaker 3: there are things that have been there. I know Taylor

553
00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:58,600
Speaker 3: eight years. I'm just now thinking of her, you know, like, wait,

554
00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:01,960
Speaker 3: all these solutions have been here then, I'm just now

555
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:07,440
Speaker 3: because I'm shifting my mindset, I'm tapping into already existing solutions,

556
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:11,240
Speaker 3: like almost all that you're wanting is right there in

557
00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:14,000
Speaker 3: front of you, but because of the state of your mindset,

558
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:16,720
Speaker 3: you can't see them. Not because they don't exist, not

559
00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:20,080
Speaker 3: because you have to stretch extra far and wide. It's

560
00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:22,480
Speaker 3: your mindset has blinded you to the solutions that are

561
00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:24,760
Speaker 3: right in front of you. And so I'm excited because

562
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:27,040
Speaker 3: I don't have to do much more, just tap into

563
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:29,080
Speaker 3: what's already there. And I'm like, oh my goodness, Tiffany,

564
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:31,399
Speaker 3: this has been here all this time, all this time.

565
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:35,760
Speaker 1: I'm kind of smiling because I kind of want to

566
00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:38,320
Speaker 1: break into this one song on Sesame Street that comes

567
00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:42,040
Speaker 1: on all the time, and it's so simple. But I'm

568
00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:44,199
Speaker 1: saying I think Sesame Street is having a very good

569
00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:46,600
Speaker 1: impact on myfe I love that show. I never watched

570
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:48,560
Speaker 1: it as a kid. I was more into like Barney

571
00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:52,159
Speaker 1: and I don't know, Earth Power Rangers whatever, but it

572
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:55,640
Speaker 1: those messages hit okay, and this one song is it's

573
00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:58,600
Speaker 1: very simple. The lyric it's God, am I really going

574
00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:02,560
Speaker 1: to sing this? Okay? Fine, I'm not hearing now, it's

575
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:06,879
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say it, but the lyric is I wonder,

576
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:10,840
Speaker 1: what if let's try that's the hook and the messages

577
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:13,440
Speaker 1: when you have a problem to solve, what do you say,

578
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:17,320
Speaker 1: you wonder, I wonder what if let's try and always

579
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:20,600
Speaker 1: it's a it's it's a frustrating problem. But a lot

580
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:22,960
Speaker 1: of people And I think this was in your book too,

581
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:25,280
Speaker 1: not that you know I read it, just you know

582
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:28,080
Speaker 1: most of it. So the piece of it is like

583
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:31,240
Speaker 1: people can get stuck in the in the mess, you know,

584
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:33,520
Speaker 1: or the problem or the challenge. And I think the

585
00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 1: anecdote is about your mom being a paper towel person. Yes, like, yeah,

586
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:40,800
Speaker 1: there's a mess, but let's actually do something. And that

587
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:43,120
Speaker 1: message in Sesame Street song too is just it's such

588
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:46,560
Speaker 1: a simple message. And I'm sure if you had asked

589
00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:48,560
Speaker 1: someone like an adult, what do you do when you

590
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:50,120
Speaker 1: have a problem, they'd be like, yeah, you'd figure out

591
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:52,120
Speaker 1: how to fix it. But in the moment, I think

592
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:54,960
Speaker 1: I think the difference between people who are successful and

593
00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 1: then think big and achieve big things is that they

594
00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 1: don't let themselves get lost in that misery stew whenever

595
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:04,880
Speaker 1: you know, when there's a problem, where there's a challenge

596
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:07,520
Speaker 1: or it seems like the stakes are against you, I mean,

597
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:10,760
Speaker 1: you've got to be You've got to build that mental resilience, Yes,

598
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 1: you've got to. And when I say like, I have

599
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 1: had some of the biggest knocks in my life the

600
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:20,720
Speaker 1: past couple of years, but I have bounced back like lightning.

601
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:23,360
Speaker 1: And I look around and I'm like, that's because I

602
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:30,320
Speaker 1: have been building the infrastructure of mental, physical, and emotional

603
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 1: well being and resilience, and through therapy, through focusing on

604
00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:39,600
Speaker 1: my sleep, through through physical activity like getting back really

605
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:43,720
Speaker 1: into good physical shape, through having joy, like spending time

606
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:47,120
Speaker 1: getting really clear on what I value and spending time

607
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 1: doing those things, being outside gardening, playing like I play

608
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:53,400
Speaker 1: like an eight year old child every day because of

609
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:56,440
Speaker 1: my kid. Like I know, I was late to the podcast.

610
00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:58,040
Speaker 1: I was walking in the woods, digging in the dirt

611
00:29:58,040 --> 00:29:59,720
Speaker 1: with my son.

612
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:02,280
Speaker 3: Like You're like, I'm in the woods.

613
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:05,200
Speaker 1: I'm like, it's funny, the street lights aren't on yet,

614
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:08,760
Speaker 1: the w'ere outside play you know. I'm I just and

615
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:13,080
Speaker 1: I think that that was and thank god. But I

616
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 1: I'm like, no matter what, I genuinely can feel that

617
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 1: now the worst thing can happen, and it will be terrible,

618
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:23,400
Speaker 1: but I will overcome it. And that knowledge makes me braver.

619
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:26,240
Speaker 1: And I think the choices that I've made have gotten

620
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:29,560
Speaker 1: bigger and scarier. But I'm I know, I'm brave. I

621
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 1: know I have a soft place to land because I've

622
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:33,920
Speaker 1: got like my you know, I've got my survival kit.

623
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 1: And it's not money and it's not canned food. I

624
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:39,640
Speaker 1: mean those things are nice. Okay, fine, that's a lie.

625
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:42,000
Speaker 1: I do have my emergency fund, which is very very

626
00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:45,200
Speaker 1: very very nice and important. But I also have my husband,

627
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 1: who gets on my nerves, but he's always there for

628
00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:49,760
Speaker 1: me when I'm really down, and my my baby, and

629
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Speaker 1: I have my you know, good relationships with my siblings

630
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:58,760
Speaker 1: and very quality friendships, and of course my partnerships like Tiffany,

631
00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:00,640
Speaker 1: I mean, you're also a friend with you partner and

632
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 1: someone I can you know, lean on. And I know

633
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 1: that you talk about financial wholeness in your book, but

634
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 1: that's kind of the message too, you know, what's in

635
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 1: your How are you becoming more resilient to challenges so

636
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 1: that when you're facing with those challenges and maybe when

637
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:17,160
Speaker 1: you're in like a negative thought spiral and your mindset's

638
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:21,080
Speaker 1: not right, who is it that's around you to help you,

639
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 1: you know, snap out of it and get back to

640
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Speaker 1: your your place of positivity. So you can really hit

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Speaker 1: your you know, reach your full potential.

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Speaker 3: Honestly, one of the best guests I ever gave to myself. Like,

643
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Speaker 3: so I'm forty one now, but right before my fortieth birthday,

644
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Speaker 3: I said, timpany enough already, and I got rid of

645
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Speaker 3: the very last of my bully friends. Remember we talked

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Speaker 3: about that early.

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Speaker 1: You know, millly friends. Yeah, that's like.

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Speaker 3: You know people who you're like, that's my fan, but

649
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Speaker 3: you're like they kind of don't treat me that great,

650
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Speaker 3: and you're like, wait, why are they here. I didn't

651
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Speaker 3: know how to stand up for myself. I didn't know

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Speaker 3: how to say, hey, don't say that to me, don't

653
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Speaker 3: treat me that way. And so i've I was I

654
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Speaker 3: had always since elementary school. Now, most of all my

655
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Speaker 3: friends would be great, but I always had one friend

656
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Speaker 3: that I allowed to bully me, and it would get

657
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Speaker 3: worse year after year. And finally at forty I was like, Okay,

658
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Speaker 3: you're the last of the Mohicans and you have to go.

659
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Speaker 3: And it was not easy, but it was so liberating.

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Speaker 3: And when I tell you, instantly like I felt lighter.

661
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Speaker 3: I remember, I was so afraid of like what's gonna happen?

662
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Speaker 3: And am I gonna miss this person? And I can

663
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Speaker 3: honestly say I don't, like, I don't not even a

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Speaker 3: little bit. Maybe a key key here and there, but no,

665
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Speaker 3: you know, they took way more than they gave. It

666
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Speaker 3: was it was, you know, and I but I added

667
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Speaker 3: to that, you know, unfortunate relationship because I allowed it.

668
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Speaker 3: And so I'm just so so what I have around

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Speaker 3: me now that safe space slent every friend, I look like,

670
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 3: it's just this beautiful soul. I look at my friend Rihanna,

671
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Speaker 3: the one who designed my home. She's just the kindest person.

672
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Speaker 3: Hurt her husband, Jermaine. They're like me and my husband's

673
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Speaker 3: first like couple friend. You know, we're like the guy

674
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Speaker 3: actually likes a guy, and the girl likes a girl

675
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Speaker 3: and the guy likes a girl. Like literally like all around,

676
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Speaker 3: we're like we love each other. So the first full

677
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Speaker 3: fledged couple friends. And they're amazing and kind and giving. Well,

678
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Speaker 3: my husband you are, you know, it's awesome. Like Mandy

679
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Speaker 3: got to see him in his super tall sel.

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Speaker 1: I forgot how Tlly was and he was so happy.

681
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Speaker 3: To do see Mandy, like, oh it's Mandy and so.

682
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Speaker 1: But and the kid's just following us around, yes, and just.

683
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Speaker 3: Like but you know, just kind and and generous and

684
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Speaker 3: and my friend Cabral same thing. When I really look

685
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Speaker 3: at the reflections of myself that I see out there,

686
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Speaker 3: it's I have the kindest, most generous friends. I've always

687
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Speaker 3: had good relationships with my sisters, thank goodness, So that's

688
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 3: always been there. But even like probably better and tighter now,

689
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Speaker 3: my parents were in a really good space and place.

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Speaker 3: We didn't always have like the gravest relationships because you know,

691
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Speaker 3: teenage years, woof, it was a lot, if I do

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Speaker 3: say so myself, and I did say so myself, and

693
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Speaker 3: even into my twenties it was a lots and plus

694
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Speaker 3: they were so strict. So but now you know, as adults,

695
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Speaker 3: as an adult, and I've come to really appreciate them

696
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:13,799
Speaker 3: and understand some of that strictness and understand why. But

697
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 3: we have such a great relationship now and so myself

698
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 3: saved my place to land. Definitely my relationships and just

699
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Speaker 3: how amazing they are. But what I really learned, and

700
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:29,200
Speaker 3: I had to remember this because I had this downpath

701
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Speaker 3: that I lost them, Like when I first started the

702
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:34,319
Speaker 3: budgets them, I did a lot of reading and I

703
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Speaker 3: was reading some random article about the mindset shift becoming

704
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Speaker 3: a millionaire to a billionaire. Don't ask me how I

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Speaker 3: found this article, but I remember being really curious because

706
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Speaker 3: they found that they had interviewed all these billionaires, and

707
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Speaker 3: they interviewed all these millionaires, and they found that the

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Speaker 3: way billionaires dealt with challenges was completely different. They welcomed

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Speaker 3: them and were almost joyful by them, like joy filled

710
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Speaker 3: literally by them. And I thought, huh, and I remember

711
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:06,399
Speaker 3: actively practicing that. And here's why. Because the billionaire saw

712
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Speaker 3: the challenge as a clear indication that they were moving

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Speaker 3: from one place to the next. That it wasn't the

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Speaker 3: challenge itself like dang, this really sucks. It was like, wait,

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Speaker 3: am I growing? Yes, I'm finally leveling up to the

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Speaker 3: next level, because this challenge is an indication of that.

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Speaker 3: And I just remember that I used to actively practice that. Mandy,

718
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Speaker 3: that like, the website is down, Yes, that means we

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Speaker 3: have so much traffic. We need to level up. You know,

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Speaker 3: we need a new email list. Yes, that means we

721
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Speaker 3: have so many people on the email list. This no

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Speaker 3: longer works. So I used to it. In the beginning

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Speaker 3: with the Budgetnista, I was really good at making that

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Speaker 3: connection that, like, you know, a challenge happens, it's a

725
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Speaker 3: good thing because it meant growth. And then somewhere along

726
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Speaker 3: the way I forgot and I started to look at

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Speaker 3: every challenge like I normally look at challenges as you know.

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Speaker 3: So that's what I would say that I am rediscovering

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Speaker 3: that back again to look get challenges as a clear

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Speaker 3: marker that you are shifting from where you said, where

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Speaker 3: you said that you are to where you're wanting to be,

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Speaker 3: and that this is just the challenge, is just this

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Speaker 3: little rough patch that's the line of demarcation for growth.

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Speaker 3: I was here and now I am here. This is

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Speaker 3: super exciting and so like, yeah, those are the things

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Speaker 3: that you know, kind of put a little pep in

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Speaker 3: my step.

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Speaker 1: I love this conversation and it's an important one to have.

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Speaker 1: What also gives me a pep in my stuff these

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Speaker 1: days is that I got my second dose of the

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Speaker 1: vaccine and it feels like this pandemonium is finally over.

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Speaker 1: And if nothing else, you guys can like build resilience

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Speaker 1: by knowing y'all made it almost almost through a pandemic.

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Speaker 1: We have all at least got that on our resumes

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Speaker 1: now survived, was resilient enough to survive, and you know,

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Speaker 1: make it through a pandemic, and that was a huge,

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Speaker 1: huge challenge for so many people. So whether you wanted

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Speaker 1: to or not, you were challenged this year. And you know,

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Speaker 1: celebrate that and get strength from that knowledge because even

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Speaker 1: if you didn't quote unquote win the pandemic, you know,

751
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 1: by losing the thirty pounds and getting whatever, you know,

752
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:13,600
Speaker 1: learning your languages or you know, knill learning how to

753
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 1: knit or whatever activity you're supposed to you know, become

754
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:19,799
Speaker 1: a cook or bake bread. You know, just making it

755
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:23,360
Speaker 1: through you have become more resilient and even just trying

756
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Speaker 1: to see the Yeah, flip the mindset. Flip the mindset.

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Speaker 1: It's a positive thing. It's not always easy. It's not

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00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:33,279
Speaker 1: always easy, but the people around you, they will help

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00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 1: you get there when you are in that negative thought spiral.

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Speaker 1: And I will tell you if there are negative people

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00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 1: around you, they will thrive on that. They will thrive

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Speaker 1: on it and they won't help lift you out of it.

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Speaker 1: So really look at yes people around you, also the

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Speaker 1: you know, the thoughts in your own head and how

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Speaker 1: they may be holding you back, and just know that

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Speaker 1: it's an ongoing process. Right, It's not like you know

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00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:57,799
Speaker 1: when there's a when there is another you know, when

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Speaker 1: I lose my confidence, which will probably happen at some point,

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Speaker 1: and you know, down the road, I will be able

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Speaker 1: to lean on my support team, you know, support system

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Speaker 1: to build me back up. So you have to you

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Speaker 1: just just anticipate the life, rainy day that it's going

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00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:15,239
Speaker 1: to happen, you know, and really try to make yourself

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Speaker 1: ready for that moment.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, oh this was great. This a little boost,

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Speaker 3: a little boosty boosts, a little boost to boost.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, second vaccine does, and I feel Okay, I'm I'm

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Speaker 1: I'm pretending like I didn't get it because I just

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00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:30,719
Speaker 1: don't want to feel I know, you can feel really

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00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 1: fatigued and like some people get really actually they feel sick.

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00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:36,840
Speaker 1: But I'm just like just keep going, going, going, go

782
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:39,400
Speaker 1: to the park, play pretend like when thing's wrong. But

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Speaker 1: I'm really I feel so relieved. Yeah, it feels really good.

784
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:46,759
Speaker 1: It feels like the start of a new a new year.

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Speaker 3: If you got to some other people feel good and

786
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Speaker 3: take some questions.

787
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Speaker 1: Okay, fine, I was just about to tell you to

788
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Speaker 1: get your vaccine.

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Speaker 3: I know I am going to get my vaccine. You're like, no,

790
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:01,239
Speaker 3: I am because I will tell y'all. Like I'm started

791
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 3: back with IBF and I just called my doctor and

792
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 3: I was like, should I get it before? She's like, yes, girl,

793
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:08,919
Speaker 3: So I, oh what they do? Yeah, So I'm gonna

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Speaker 3: get it in the next.

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Speaker 1: Couple of weeks.

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Speaker 3: Because how long do you have to wait between man?

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00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:16,800
Speaker 1: Should you like a few weeks? I got mine April

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Speaker 1: fifth and today is April twenty four.

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Speaker 3: No, but is there like a minimum amount of time

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Speaker 3: that you wait between vases?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's three weeks. I think twenty one days or

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Speaker 1: something like that.

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Speaker 4: Oh.

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Speaker 3: Right, then I got to hurry up because okay.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so if you're if you're planning like a vacation

806
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Speaker 1: or something, you definitely want to be in the same

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Speaker 1: place for at least a few weeks. There's something.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Yes, what's no? Because I like with like it

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Speaker 3: like with like I'm going a cycle right now and

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Speaker 3: like tentatively speaking, there might be implantation like like June sixth,

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Speaker 3: So I'm like, I need to get on and now

812
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:50,480
Speaker 3: because I want to have the vaccine before, you.

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00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:52,279
Speaker 1: Know, before that all goes down.

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Speaker 3: Yes, because I don't you know, I won't be able to. Okay, well,

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Speaker 3: good to know. So I'm like, okay, I'm gonna I'm

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Speaker 3: gonna call tomorrow. There's a much of places in Nework.

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Speaker 3: I think they even just like have you just go.

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Speaker 1: Like it's really easy to get an appointment now.

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Speaker 3: Yes, that's what I've heard from everybody. Gosh, I'm gonna

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Speaker 3: get my first facts latest next week because Sis needs

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Speaker 3: to make sure we can put this baby ready.

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Speaker 1: Okay, but we will get to some questions though. Let's

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Speaker 1: take a quick break and be right back with your questions.

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Speaker 1: All right, y'all, we are back. Before we get into questions,

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Speaker 1: First question, Hey ladies, I just started listening to your

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Speaker 1: podcast and I love all the content. Thank you. I

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Speaker 1: wanted to submit a question and hope of getting your input.

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Speaker 1: My fiance and I have paid off over sixty thousand

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Speaker 1: dollars of debt and have forty thousand dollars left. That's

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Speaker 1: about thirteen thousand, seven hundred dollars of student loans and

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Speaker 1: thirty thousand dollars that we have for a truck loan.

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Speaker 1: We want to buy a house in about a year,

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Speaker 1: but we haven't started the saving process since we've been

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Speaker 1: so focused on paying off debt. Do y'all think we

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Speaker 1: should continue to get our debt total down before saving

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Speaker 1: or just go full on into saving mode? So u's

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Speaker 1: first of all, a sixty thousand dollars of debt down

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Speaker 1: doesn't mention having any savings at all, So we don't

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Speaker 1: know if there's like if they're building on top of

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Speaker 1: a cash cushion. But we can make some assumptions, like

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Speaker 1: let's assume they don't have anything saved and are wanting

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Speaker 1: to start from scratch saving from a house, but they

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Speaker 1: have two types of debt left, thirteen K student loans

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Speaker 1: and thirty K for a truck loan with an undisclosed APR.

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Speaker 3: I was going to say, what's the interesting I'm assuming

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Speaker 3: the student loans. Let's make the assumption that your student

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Speaker 3: loves are federal, so the interest rate is like you know, relatiicist.

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Speaker 1: It now until September, you don't have to pay. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you don't have to pay student loans. You don't have

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Speaker 1: to pay federal student loans or any an interest stop

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Speaker 1: has stopped accruing thanks to the Cares Act through the

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Speaker 1: end of September, So really, no one has to pay loans.

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Speaker 1: So let's yeah, we pretend that those are gone. Then

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Speaker 1: it's the thirty k for a truck loan.

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Speaker 3: And I don't know, you know, you know how it

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Speaker 3: is with with trucks. I mean, with the card loans,

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Speaker 3: it could go either way. She could be double digits,

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Speaker 3: she could be three percent.

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Speaker 1: So no, you got no.

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Speaker 3: Here's the thing. My stance on debt versus savings, it's

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Speaker 3: never debt versus savings. I feel like me and Manny

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Speaker 3: always like debt and savings, you know, because saving especially

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Speaker 3: because it doesn't I mean, we don't know what the

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Speaker 3: APR for the for the truck loowners. APR your annual percentage,

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Speaker 3: your annual percentage right sentence rate. Look, I'm like, yes,

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Speaker 3: are basically the interest rate that you're paying on that

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Speaker 3: that truck. My assumption is because you don't have a

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Speaker 3: credit card debt, which is great, so you I'm assuming

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Speaker 3: you don't have crazy interest rates, and even if you

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Speaker 3: if you did, saving to me is your first line

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Speaker 3: of defense. It's like the lock on the door, you know,

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Speaker 3: on the screen door at that so someone has to

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Speaker 3: bust through the screen door, then get to the regular door,

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Speaker 3: then get to the chain lock, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: And so I really I'm a big proponent of having

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Speaker 3: some savings and not sacrifice savings just for for to

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Speaker 3: get towards debt freedom that it can happen and should

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Speaker 3: happen at the same time. Now, if you're saying that

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Speaker 3: you're wanting to save for paying down a house to

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Speaker 3: buy a house, now that's different because they're saving for like,

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Speaker 3: you know, like emergencies and saving for goal. Because here's

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Speaker 3: my worry. Let's just say you're like, oh, okay, I'm

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Speaker 3: gonna save as we pay down our loan, and then

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Speaker 3: we also save for a house and you're able to

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Speaker 3: get a you know, a decent loan for the house,

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Speaker 3: so then you use your your savings to buy the house.

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Speaker 3: So now you're back at no savings again. So that's

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Speaker 3: a concern that you should be like for set the

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Speaker 3: house to the side for a moment. And if you

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Speaker 3: are going to save, I want you to concentrate that

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Speaker 3: you're saving for emergencies while also paying down your debt.

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Speaker 3: Now anything, you know, anything above and beyond that. You

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Speaker 3: can also save two for buying a house. But you

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Speaker 3: shouldn't be looking at the savings that you're setting aside

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Speaker 3: just for the house. You should also have an emergency

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Speaker 3: fund stashed away, especially if you get a house. I mean, Maddy,

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Speaker 3: and I will tell you in a minute, how things

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Speaker 3: just be going hay? Why are like, wait, what do

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Speaker 3: you mean the plumbing? Wait, what do you mean?

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Speaker 1: Why did you say plumbing? Because that's that's always what

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Speaker 1: it is, and it's always before you have a bunch

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Speaker 1: of guests over the toilet overflows like it did for

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Speaker 1: us that fourth of July last year the year before that,

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Speaker 1: five hundred dollars to get someone to unclog it emergency

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Speaker 1: on a holiday. Okay, sorry, go ahead.

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Speaker 3: No, no, go ahead, no, because you know what I mean. So,

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Speaker 3: I think a lot of people forget that there are

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Speaker 3: levels to savings. It's not just savings to eventually that's

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Speaker 3: like almost like that kind of savings. To me, I

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Speaker 3: call it delayed spending. So you save, save, safe, saved,

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Speaker 3: then you use it all for a thing. Well, you've

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Speaker 3: just delayed the spending. You also have to save for

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Speaker 3: savings sake, meaning save for this is my first line

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Speaker 3: of defense. This is a lock on the screen door

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Speaker 3: that someone has to get through before the next door

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Speaker 3: can be can be breached and the next thing can

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Speaker 3: be breached. Like not enough people have enough money set

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Speaker 3: aside for that. And if twenty twenties panting commercial pandemonium

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Speaker 3: taught us nothing is the value of having like that

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Speaker 3: first line of defense lined up, No matter how little

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Speaker 3: that is, it can give you a little bit of room.

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Speaker 1: Panting commercial, that's a new one. Haven't heard. I was

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Speaker 1: gonna say that. You know, if you're not paying your

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Speaker 1: student loans anymore, you could divert that payment to savings.

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Speaker 1: You know, call it your emergency fund that you're building

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Speaker 1: up while you don't have to, while you don't have

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Speaker 1: the obligation of paying off your student loans. There's really

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Speaker 1: no incentive right now to make payments on federal student loans.

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Speaker 1: You're not saving any money on interest because there is none,

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Speaker 1: and you don't have to, like there's no there's no

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Speaker 1: there's actually a cons to paying them. And the con

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Speaker 1: is that you know, you could potentially be earning more

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Speaker 1: by putting your money elsewhere. Even if it's in a

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Speaker 1: really you know, a regular savings account that has very

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Speaker 1: little interest, it's still more than zero. And also it's

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Speaker 1: giving you that added protection. So if you're going to

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Speaker 1: be putting money toward loans that you don't have to,

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Speaker 1: that you're not paying interest on, and not putting it

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Speaker 1: towards savings, that could potentially save you if you, you know,

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Speaker 1: have a financial challenge that pops up, it's just smarter

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Speaker 1: to put it away in savings. It's going to protect you.

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Speaker 1: So you could do that, just divert what you would

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Speaker 1: have been paying towards your student loans to savings. And

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Speaker 1: I would also point out, you know, if you're thinking

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Speaker 1: about taking out a mortgage for your future home and

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Speaker 1: you're talking about saving just for the down payment, they're

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Speaker 1: not going to want to see that this down payment's

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Speaker 1: going to bankrupt you. And they're also going to give

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Speaker 1: you a better rate if you have lower debt to

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Speaker 1: income ratio, which is you know how much your monthly

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Speaker 1: debt payments are versus your monthly expenses, so it behooves you,

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Speaker 1: sat word, it behooves you to try to pay you know,

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Speaker 1: down some debt and also lee have some cash left behind,

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Speaker 1: liquid cash so that lenders are willing to, you know,

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Speaker 1: let you borrow money at all, or even at a

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Speaker 1: more affordable rate than others. Something to consider. But it's

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Speaker 1: definitely a table to buy a house. And it sounds

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Speaker 1: like you guys are really good at budgeting. I would

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Speaker 1: just say less money throwing it away at debt and

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Speaker 1: more towards that savings fund. Okay, how about this one.

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Speaker 1: We've been getting more and more questions about financial advisors,

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Speaker 1: but this listener says, do you have any recommendations for

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Speaker 1: financial advisors? I started with DR. If you don't know

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Speaker 1: who that is, then well whatever, you don't need to

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Speaker 1: know forget about it for financial education, but realized it helps,

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Speaker 1: but I'm looking for something better. I'm currently working with

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Speaker 1: a quote smart vestor pro quote, which is basically an

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Speaker 1: advisor that follows DR's principles. Any advice or info smart

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Speaker 1: vestor pro.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so I think we both liked did where'd you find, Helen?

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Speaker 3: Did you find have the xy Planning Network? Is that

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Speaker 3: what you found? Oh?

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Speaker 1: Helen? Yeah, that was years ago. Is I feel like

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Speaker 1: XY Planning is still around. At the time, it was

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Speaker 1: very focused on literally Generation X and and it's a

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Speaker 1: network of fee based or it was at the time. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm looking at the Yeah, so all the advisors on

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Speaker 1: their network are fiduciaries, which means they have to work

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Speaker 1: at your best interest, offer virtual services, no commissions, they're

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Speaker 1: not focusing on selling you products like insurance. They have

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Speaker 1: a CFP license. So yeah, it's still around, and that's

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Speaker 1: where I found Helen. But I actually interviewed I think

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Speaker 1: three my husband and I interviewed three different people and

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Speaker 1: we settled on Helen after doing those interviews. But yep,

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Speaker 1: thanks YE Planning.

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Speaker 3: And there's also one called the National Association of Personal

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Speaker 3: Financial Advisors. It's like NAPFA. And then there's also this

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Speaker 3: fee only network. So if you go this is a

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Speaker 3: slight book plug but not really. But if you go

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Speaker 3: to a gigaboo money dot com, this is a little

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Speaker 3: button that says GGWM toolkit. So because inside like chapter ten,

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Speaker 3: I talk about picking your money team and how I

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Speaker 3: found my financial advisor, So definitely go to x Y

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Speaker 3: Planning Network. I put that link there. The National Association

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Speaker 3: of Personal Financial Advisors. And there's also the fee only network.

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Speaker 3: But that's not why I want you to go there,

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Speaker 3: because you could just go to those websites. I want

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Speaker 3: you to go there to click that button because I

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Speaker 3: created this work she called my soul called financial life Template,

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Speaker 3: and I use the template to create like, so how

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Speaker 3: I find my financial advisor, Angelie is I created kind

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Speaker 3: of like this template of like myself and my husband,

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Speaker 3: like what our financial life looked like. Because I found

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Speaker 3: myself when I was interviewing people forgetting like, oh I

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Speaker 3: forgot to tell them this, and I forgot to tell

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Speaker 3: them that. But then once I created this kind of

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Speaker 3: template for myself, I was able to email it to

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Speaker 3: them before we had our talk, so I would not

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Speaker 3: forget to say like, oh, by the way, these are

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Speaker 3: our goals, this is how much we have saved. It's

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Speaker 3: just it was just like such a great like resource,

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Speaker 3: So yes, go ahead, And meanwhile, I'm clicking it now

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Speaker 3: and I'm like, is it not going Let me just

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Speaker 3: tell me?

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Speaker 1: No, But that was like a good challenge that you

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Speaker 1: cannot overcome.

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Speaker 3: Tip No, but no, but I think that that is yeah,

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Speaker 3: I just I think that it's really it's important to

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Speaker 3: have some sort of like I don't know, like I

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Speaker 3: wanted to have something in front of me, so as

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Speaker 3: I interviewed them, they could see one because it was

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Speaker 3: like twenty people that I reached out to and I

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Speaker 3: gave them kind of like that document so they could

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Speaker 3: disqualify themselves if I wasn't going to be a fit.

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Speaker 3: And then other like twenty people I sent it to,

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Speaker 3: like I think like maybe like twelve we're like, oh yes,

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Speaker 3: And then I ended up whittling it down to Anguli.

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Speaker 3: But she had so much of the information that she

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Speaker 3: normally would ask was in that dock and it just

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Speaker 3: was so helpful. So I suggest that that yes, my

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Speaker 3: my so called financial life it is. It was such

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Speaker 3: a like, like I said, that doc really just was everything.

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Speaker 1: So so check that out. We'll put that link in

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Speaker 1: our show notes. Cool. All right, Well, thank y'all so

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Speaker 1: much for your questions. Hit us up BRANDNA Mission podcast

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Speaker 1: at gmail dot com and you can find us all

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Speaker 1: up in the socials, but especially on Instagram these days.

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Speaker 1: Briand Ambisson podcast on I g.

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Speaker 4: No But okay, and now it's time to boost or

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Speaker 4: break or boost or break or booze.

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Speaker 3: All right, let me look at my little document to

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00:53:52,719 --> 00:53:57,799
Speaker 3: see what do I have here? So I wanted to

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00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:02,319
Speaker 3: did we ever talk about Patrise's colors and like the

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00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:04,960
Speaker 3: trouble that she was having with them? No, we have not,

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00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:06,919
Speaker 3: So I want to boost for chese colors.

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Speaker 1: I don't know anyway, She's.

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Speaker 3: One of the co founders of Black Lives Matter, and

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00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:14,320
Speaker 3: unfortunately a lot of news outlets, including unfortunately black news outlets,

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00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:18,040
Speaker 3: were dragging her for having the audacity to earn an income.

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00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:23,839
Speaker 3: It was truly yes, So I mean, and I mean

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Speaker 3: I'm trying to separate because I know Patrice and I

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00:54:27,239 --> 00:54:30,960
Speaker 3: have like I remember, like a Black Lives Matters had

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00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:33,760
Speaker 3: been awarded with the Sydney Peace Prize, which is super

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00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:37,920
Speaker 3: prestigious peace prize, and I went to Australia and I

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00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:40,480
Speaker 3: went with her to Australia when she was she was

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Speaker 3: accepting it on behalf of Black Lives Matter. And when

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00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:45,080
Speaker 3: I tell you the I don't know that I know

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00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:49,239
Speaker 3: anybody that is more passionate about black lives you know,

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00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:52,640
Speaker 3: than Patrice and how she is dedicated literally her life

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00:54:52,640 --> 00:54:54,760
Speaker 3: and puts her life on the line, like the number

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00:54:54,840 --> 00:55:00,160
Speaker 3: of like death threats and the number of just like

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00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:03,360
Speaker 3: it's crazy how they come for that woman. And so

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00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:06,600
Speaker 3: people were mad because they're like, what, you have a

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00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:09,840
Speaker 3: house in California? Meanwhile, that's worth I don't remember what

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00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:12,880
Speaker 3: it was, like, you know, five hundred thousand dollars or

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00:55:12,880 --> 00:55:15,000
Speaker 3: one point two million dollars. I don't think people understand

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00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:18,759
Speaker 3: if you don't live on the coast. My little rinkidink

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00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:24,840
Speaker 3: house in Newark, New Jersey is worth about four point fifty.

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00:55:25,080 --> 00:55:27,280
Speaker 3: It's not something special. I mean it's a nice que house,

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00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:31,200
Speaker 3: but meaning that on the coast, what's one point two

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00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:34,000
Speaker 3: million dollars in California looks like a regular house. Like

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00:55:34,040 --> 00:55:35,400
Speaker 3: I saw that house, I was like, this is what

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00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:40,080
Speaker 3: y'all mad at. It's because of where, because of coastal living,

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00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:42,960
Speaker 3: it's way more expensive. Like do you understand, like there

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00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:46,240
Speaker 3: are people in New York who's literal you know, one bedroom,

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00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:49,200
Speaker 3: two bedroom apartment might be six thousand dollars and it

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00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:51,799
Speaker 3: doesn't look like it looks like a college dorm room. Like,

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Speaker 3: so what is relatively expensive to like you know in

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Speaker 3: the Midwest is not expensive. I mean it is expensive,

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Speaker 3: but that's you're just not gonna get anything less than that,

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Speaker 3: especially in California. I mean New York, New Jersey's already bad,

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Speaker 3: but California is literally insane. And Patrese is an author

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00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:13,520
Speaker 3: her book. I remember when when we were because I

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00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:15,600
Speaker 3: han't met her at essence best at first, and I

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00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:17,480
Speaker 3: remember she had just written a book, When They Call

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00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:20,239
Speaker 3: You a Terrorist, a New York Times bestseller. It sold

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00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:23,120
Speaker 3: tons of copies. I can tell you someone who got

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00:56:23,120 --> 00:56:24,640
Speaker 3: a book deal. I promise you her book deal was

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00:56:24,680 --> 00:56:27,080
Speaker 3: bigger than mine, and mine was just under seven figures

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Speaker 3: me with my first book. Like and so Patrise, who

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00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:32,479
Speaker 3: was huge. I mean she's still huge, but at that time,

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Speaker 3: so I can only imagine what her book deal was.

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Speaker 3: So let's get that clear too. Like Patrise is an artist,

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Speaker 3: she has she's had all of these other ways to

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00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:44,680
Speaker 3: bring an income for herself. We cannot ask the people

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Speaker 3: who serve us to also be a martyr for brokeness,

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00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:51,239
Speaker 3: like you already you already know I'm not with it,

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00:56:51,960 --> 00:56:54,560
Speaker 3: Like I'm here to be the Budjanista to serve my community.

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Speaker 3: Assist wants to be wealthy as well, because like I don't,

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Speaker 3: I just like I'm done with that. Like when I

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00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:02,480
Speaker 3: first started my business. I thought that, I'm like, well,

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Speaker 3: I don't want to charge, and I don't want this

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00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:06,279
Speaker 3: because I ought not to have, because if I'm going

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Speaker 3: to be of service, that's garbage. The more that I have,

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00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:13,000
Speaker 3: I pour from my overflow, the more resources that I have,

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00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:15,920
Speaker 3: the better I show up for y'all. Because I'm not broke.

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00:57:16,120 --> 00:57:17,920
Speaker 3: Is why I'm able to do so much for free,

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00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:20,680
Speaker 3: because I'm not worried about money, and so I just

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00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:22,720
Speaker 3: wanted that to be It's almost like a boosty breaky,

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00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:25,840
Speaker 3: a boost for patrees, but a break for y'all. Tried it,

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00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:30,120
Speaker 3: not y'all, but y'all that like asking our leaders to

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Speaker 3: suffer in brokeness. And then you know, some of these

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00:57:34,200 --> 00:57:39,440
Speaker 3: very outlets putting her address online. I mean, she already

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Speaker 3: was receiving death threats, putting her life and her family

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Speaker 3: at risk. I just when she has already put her

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Speaker 3: life on the line in response to Black Lives Matter

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Speaker 3: one Like, so, if you like, there's this great His

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00:57:53,040 --> 00:57:58,560
Speaker 3: name is Matt mcgry m at t mc g r

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Speaker 3: y on Instagram, and I love it because he posted

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Speaker 3: this letter a statement on false and dangerous stories. Right,

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00:58:07,240 --> 00:58:11,120
Speaker 3: so he he said the following statement is issued by

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Speaker 3: Black Lives Matter Global the Foundation in response to the

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00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:21,120
Speaker 3: false and defamatory the savatory the ffamatory article being amplified

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00:58:21,320 --> 00:58:25,200
Speaker 3: by right wing media. Patrise Colors is the executive director

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00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:28,160
Speaker 3: of Black Lives Matter Global Network Foundation. She serves in

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00:58:28,200 --> 00:58:32,720
Speaker 3: this role in a volunteer capacity. This is from Global

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00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:37,000
Speaker 3: Black Lives Matter does not receive a salary or benefits.

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Speaker 3: Patrese has received a total of one hundred and twenty

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Speaker 3: thousand dollars since the organization's inception in twenty thirteen is

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Speaker 3: now twenty twenty one. He wrote this April twelve, twenty

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Speaker 3: twenty one. How many years is that, Mandy?

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Speaker 1: That is when was it founded?

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Speaker 3: Just twenty thirteen?

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Speaker 1: Seven? Eight years?

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Speaker 3: Eight years? So what is one hundred and twenty thousand

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Speaker 3: dollars divided by eight years? Let me, let's do that.

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Speaker 1: It's not very much. It's less than ten thousand dollars.

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Speaker 3: A year, I mean. And so this says for duties

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Speaker 3: such as serving as a spokesperson and engaging in political

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Speaker 3: education work. Patrese did not receive any compensation after twenty nineteen.

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Speaker 3: Stop to be abundantly clear, it says as a register

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Speaker 3: of four oh one ced three that this organization cannot

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Speaker 3: and did not commit any organizational resources towards the purchase

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Speaker 3: of personal property by any employer volunteer. I mean, I

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Speaker 3: just and he goes on to say Patrese's work for

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Speaker 3: black people over the years has made her and others

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00:59:35,800 --> 00:59:38,480
Speaker 3: who are aligned with the Fight for Black Liberation targets

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00:59:38,480 --> 00:59:41,880
Speaker 3: for racist violence. So it's just really really because I

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00:59:41,880 --> 00:59:43,760
Speaker 3: can see in her face because Patrese, honestly, if you

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00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:48,880
Speaker 3: despite all the bs, she is funny and joyful and lighthearted,

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00:59:49,360 --> 00:59:52,440
Speaker 3: I mean she is silly. And to see her like

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00:59:52,520 --> 00:59:54,920
Speaker 3: fighting for her life on insult, like I've messaged her

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Speaker 3: several times and just make sure she's okay, But to

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Speaker 3: see I can see the fear in her face, and

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00:59:59,840 --> 01:00:01,800
Speaker 3: I see a little bit of the light dim because

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01:00:02,080 --> 01:00:04,840
Speaker 3: it's she's expecting it from the right wing, but from

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01:00:04,840 --> 01:00:08,200
Speaker 3: her own people coming for her. It's unconscionable. And I

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Speaker 3: just can't imagine putting my life on the line for

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Speaker 3: the very folks who are now putting my life in

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01:00:14,320 --> 01:00:17,840
Speaker 3: danger because of lies. And so I just wanted to

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Speaker 3: give her an extra If you want to read it

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01:00:19,320 --> 01:00:22,080
Speaker 3: for yourself, I encourage you to do some Matt m

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01:00:22,120 --> 01:00:25,600
Speaker 3: at t mc g O R R Y on his Insta.

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Speaker 3: It was posted on like I think, like I don't know,

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Speaker 3: like in April some time, but you can go and

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Speaker 3: read that letter. I think it's important for everybody to

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Speaker 3: see it, to read it. And yeah, she is just

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Speaker 3: an incredible woman who despite all of this still stands

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Speaker 3: in service to black people.

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Speaker 1: So this story, I mean, I texted you Tief when

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Speaker 1: I saw it, I was like, what the absolute what

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Speaker 1: it was? It was? I'm still so angry on her behalf,

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Speaker 1: because there is this expectation, especially if you're a Black woman,

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Speaker 1: that you're not that you're supposed to give everything but

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01:00:58,400 --> 01:01:01,280
Speaker 1: not get anything. That the image of you they want

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01:01:01,320 --> 01:01:05,240
Speaker 1: to see is someone who is on their names, crying

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01:01:05,400 --> 01:01:09,080
Speaker 1: because their son or brother or husband or nephew was

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Speaker 1: killed or you know, or with a handout, you know,

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01:01:13,440 --> 01:01:16,360
Speaker 1: looking for something. They don't want to see you succeed.

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Speaker 1: And it is really sad proof that there is still

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Speaker 1: a lot of audience out there who wants to proliferate

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Speaker 1: this image of black women, black people, you know, suffering

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Speaker 1: but not thriving, and especially for someone who's given so much,

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Speaker 1: I was I don't even know Patrice, but I was

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Speaker 1: offended on her behalf and so I'm glad you. I'm

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Speaker 1: really glad you brought this up. And as a former journalist,

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Speaker 1: I will tell you it was the It was the wackiest,

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01:01:43,600 --> 01:01:48,520
Speaker 1: thinnest piece of internet crap, like garbage. And as a

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Speaker 1: as a as anyone who even has a modicum of

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Speaker 1: journalism education, would never have published that story. And I'm

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Speaker 1: really sad for black journalists because you know, as any

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Speaker 1: black professional, when you're out there in the world, you're

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01:02:02,280 --> 01:02:06,360
Speaker 1: you have such a razor thin margin margin for error.

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Speaker 1: So when one of us, as a black journalist, is

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Speaker 1: a black journalist out there posting filth like that and

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01:02:11,760 --> 01:02:15,840
Speaker 1: nonsense with terrible sourcing or lack of sourcing and no

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Speaker 1: story at all, like even a tiny bit of fact

1224
01:02:19,000 --> 01:02:20,640
Speaker 1: checking could have found there was no truth to this.

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01:02:21,440 --> 01:02:24,200
Speaker 1: When you publish that, you you know you're making it

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Speaker 1: harder for other black journalists to be taken seriously. And

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Speaker 1: so that is what I'm offended by. She made me

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Speaker 1: want to like do a talk at the next National

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Speaker 1: Association and Black Journalist conference, like we got to do

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Speaker 1: better out here. And yeah, it was pure, pure garbage,

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Speaker 1: and I hope that a lot of people out there

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Speaker 1: are are smart enough to look at where stories like

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Speaker 1: that come from on the internet and question it and

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01:02:47,880 --> 01:02:51,560
Speaker 1: and be critical and think critically about stories that we

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Speaker 1: hear about our leadership, because they they when you succeed

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Speaker 1: as a black woman, that's when they're most fearful of you,

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01:02:58,360 --> 01:03:00,480
Speaker 1: and that is when they start putting out live to

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01:03:00,560 --> 01:03:03,240
Speaker 1: bring you down. And even though I don't know her,

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01:03:03,320 --> 01:03:05,440
Speaker 1: I feel like that could be me, that could be

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Speaker 1: I'm sure it has been Tiffany. People don't want to

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01:03:07,560 --> 01:03:10,240
Speaker 1: see Tiffany do well, you know, they want they like,

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01:03:10,480 --> 01:03:12,920
Speaker 1: especially when it's your peers. I'm sure there's there's people

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01:03:12,920 --> 01:03:15,880
Speaker 1: who who we're talking about earlier, would rather see you

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01:03:15,880 --> 01:03:19,640
Speaker 1: struggle to make themselves feel better. And anyway, I my

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01:03:19,720 --> 01:03:23,080
Speaker 1: heart goes out to Patrice. I hope she's okay. She

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01:03:23,200 --> 01:03:26,440
Speaker 1: has done such good work, And go and get your

1247
01:03:26,440 --> 01:03:29,480
Speaker 1: house's girl, get all the houses. You have every right

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01:03:29,520 --> 01:03:31,520
Speaker 1: to get your houses. How many billionaires, like do you

1249
01:03:31,520 --> 01:03:34,480
Speaker 1: want to talk about? How many billionaires give away money

1250
01:03:34,520 --> 01:03:38,320
Speaker 1: to to nonprofits and and and all their philanthropic good

1251
01:03:38,320 --> 01:03:42,040
Speaker 1: deeds and then turn around and you know, drive gas

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01:03:42,080 --> 01:03:45,560
Speaker 1: guzzling cars and and have the audacity to go shopping

1253
01:03:45,680 --> 01:03:48,800
Speaker 1: for expensive things and have watches and jets and stuff

1254
01:03:48,840 --> 01:03:51,160
Speaker 1: like get out of here. Like it's just complete and

1255
01:03:51,240 --> 01:03:54,600
Speaker 1: utter nonsense. And she did not deserve it for a minute.

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01:03:54,600 --> 01:03:57,000
Speaker 1: And I hope that she I hope that the light

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01:03:57,080 --> 01:04:00,520
Speaker 1: has not dimmed for too long because she has done

1258
01:04:00,520 --> 01:04:02,360
Speaker 1: so much good work and she needs all the support

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01:04:02,840 --> 01:04:06,400
Speaker 1: that she deserves. Right now, what was my booth going

1260
01:04:06,480 --> 01:04:09,120
Speaker 1: to be? Oh, I know, hold on, my computer just died.

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01:04:09,920 --> 01:04:12,680
Speaker 1: I went away, well really quick, because that was I

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01:04:12,800 --> 01:04:14,600
Speaker 1: joined in on that one. But I wanted to shout

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01:04:14,640 --> 01:04:17,800
Speaker 1: out things. I wanted to shout out this young woman.

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Speaker 1: And I wanted to shout this out Tiffany, because I

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01:04:20,920 --> 01:04:23,840
Speaker 1: can't stop thinking about your nephew Roman and how he

1266
01:04:23,920 --> 01:04:27,800
Speaker 1: just has this big kid genius energy. Big I mean,

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01:04:27,840 --> 01:04:30,280
Speaker 1: he was just fascinating to watch. I could have just

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01:04:30,360 --> 01:04:31,840
Speaker 1: I didn't want to be weird, but I was just

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01:04:31,880 --> 01:04:35,440
Speaker 1: like really wanting to observe him. He's a mathematical genius.

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01:04:35,480 --> 01:04:37,520
Speaker 1: And I saw this story about a young girl who's

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01:04:37,560 --> 01:04:40,520
Speaker 1: twelve and how she's attending college this year. Her name's

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Speaker 1: Elena Wicker and she's soon to be college student, and

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Speaker 1: she wants to be the youngest black woman to ever

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Speaker 1: work for NASA, And she was recently featured in People magazine,

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Speaker 1: and I just wanted to share this little this little

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Speaker 1: bit of black excellence. And her mother, Diane McCord, said,

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Speaker 1: one of the signs that her child gifted was she

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Speaker 1: would always organize legos by color and by size and

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Speaker 1: very strategic, and if you took one of her legos

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Speaker 1: out of the set, she knew one of them was missing, yes,

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Speaker 1: but that she's still goofy and she's always you know,

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Speaker 1: she's had a sense of humor, but would like build

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Speaker 1: these crazy you know, like the Millennium Falcon out of

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Speaker 1: legos and like all these things. So shout out to

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Speaker 1: Elena and black girl excellence, and also shout out to

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Speaker 1: Roman because I feel like he might be like a

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Speaker 1: People dot Com Black Excellent story one day.

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Speaker 3: I always, like I used to because you know, teaching

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Speaker 3: for so long, I used to always like the joke

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Speaker 3: was that ain't no regular baby. That's what I would

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Speaker 3: always say, Like he's one and a half, talk about

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Speaker 3: octagon oval. I'm like what I used to tell her.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, mm, sis, I ain't no regular baby, because

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Speaker 3: you know that was her first and she's like, I

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Speaker 3: don't know. I don't wanted a half years name all

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Speaker 3: the shapes. I'm like, no, if they do, they certainly

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Speaker 3: don't know octagons from hexagons. Sis no, and like even now,

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Speaker 3: like you know Roman is telling time. Didn't I didn't

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Speaker 3: know I have to tell time until I was like

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Speaker 3: in fifth or sixth grade. He's five. Yeah, he's telling time.

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Speaker 3: He's doing multiplication and addition reading like all these like signs,

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Speaker 3: like we walk down the street. I was like, I'm thinking,

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Speaker 3: like he's gonna read the first two lines. It was

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Speaker 3: like no, it said something like it was like a

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Speaker 3: parking side, no parking police track this boy, no parking

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Speaker 3: police towing. I'm like, cause he never heard of towing.

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Speaker 3: But he's like I can sound it out at five.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah. So I always tell her I didn't no

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Speaker 3: regular baby, because she was worried. Because for you, parents,

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Speaker 3: if you are not up on number blocks and alpha

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Speaker 3: blocks on Netflix, cis you late? It is as a teacher,

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Speaker 3: I'm telling you want.

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Speaker 1: To feel attacked because I'm still on Sesame Street again

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Speaker 1: one more time.

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Speaker 3: Number number of blocks and alpha blocks. So it is

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Speaker 3: they whoever made it they are educational geniuses because what

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Speaker 3: this show was like, so basically they have on letters

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Speaker 3: and numbers into superheroes. You so kids feel like they're

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Speaker 3: watching one of these superhero shows, but really they are.

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Speaker 3: They are showing you how to count at tract. So

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Speaker 3: it gets with every episode, it gets more complex. In

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Speaker 3: the beginning, you're just doing letters, and then sounds and

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Speaker 3: then words and then sentences. So each episode gets more

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Speaker 3: and more complex, but they do it in such a

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Speaker 3: way that you feel like you're watching like you know,

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Speaker 3: like Power Rangers because the actual numbers and the letters.

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Speaker 3: So there's two separate shows, number Blocks, and then there's

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Speaker 3: an Alpha Blocks that they take on the persona of

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Speaker 3: like different like I said, superheroes, but it's so well done.

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Speaker 3: And the repetitiveness, I mean, I like, I'm I'm picking

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Speaker 3: up everything they're putting down. I'm like, ooh, like a

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Speaker 3: million when she was three, just like a few months ago.

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Speaker 3: Do you know how hard a concept it is for

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Speaker 3: a kid to understand zero? Like, think about that many Like,

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Speaker 3: how do you explain zero to a two year old

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Speaker 3: or a three year old?

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Speaker 1: And so to me straight they show you that cookie

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Speaker 1: has no cookies.

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Speaker 3: I can tell you, but it's still really hard of

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Speaker 3: a concept because kids understand numbers. And so the other

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Speaker 3: day I was saying something. He was like, I'm sad

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Speaker 3: there's zero. There's zero left. I looked at her, like

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Speaker 3: my sister was like, girl, I don't know, damn damn

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Speaker 3: number blocks, but I just I share that that because

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Speaker 3: it's been such a great you know in the world

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Speaker 3: wherever where I get it. Like my sister used to

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Speaker 3: be really big on like, you know, not too much

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Speaker 3: screen time, girl, pandemic. It was like, where are your

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Speaker 3: number blocks?

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Speaker 1: Yep?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So I was like, you know, tell.

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Speaker 1: Her to check out the guy on YouTube who excavates

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Speaker 1: for a living, which is where you just dig up

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Speaker 1: dirt and move it to other places. Hypnotizes my child

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Speaker 1: send me a lake because I will. I don't know

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Speaker 1: who it is. I used to roll my eyes, but

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Speaker 1: I will walk in the living room and my husband

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Speaker 1: always watches this guy and he and Rio are on

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Speaker 1: the couch just dead staring watching the sky dig up gravel.

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Speaker 1: And it goes a full hour. My toddler did not move.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if he's learning anything, but he likes

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Speaker 1: just he screams at it. Equipment now when he sees

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Speaker 1: it on the side of.

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Speaker 3: But that means he's recognizing it. Yeah, yeah, No, I

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Speaker 3: just see to think that. Like there's just some shows

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Speaker 3: that are so well done and that is number of

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Speaker 3: blocks and alpha blocks there. Like I started following them

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Speaker 3: on Insta just to be like, thank you so much

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Speaker 3: all that you've taught my niece and nephew. It's just

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Speaker 3: great programming.

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Speaker 1: But no, like it's protect that one. The force is

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Speaker 1: strong with him.

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Speaker 3: I told my sister, my girl, we will all be

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Speaker 3: working for his whatever company.

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Speaker 1: But Mimi keeps it spicy. She keeps it like.

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Speaker 3: She's like, dude, that's what we call a millia, Mamie.

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Speaker 3: She keeps it all the way spicy, like girl, She's like, Roman,

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Speaker 3: we're here to have fun you and this. She does

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Speaker 3: like alpha blocks too, but she definitely is the He's

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Speaker 3: the Chucky and she's the Tommy of a Rugrats, like

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Speaker 3: you know, exploratory, having a good time. And Roman's like, oh,

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Speaker 3: I guess, and like literally he'll build a thing and

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Speaker 3: she will just be like I'm gonna tip it over, okay. Roman,

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Speaker 3: He's like due. She's like yeah, exactly, no, but I'm

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Speaker 3: just I'm just honestly, it was nice to have like

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Speaker 3: you like here in my space. I'm like, oh, I

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Speaker 3: just get right in. It was just like nice just

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Speaker 3: to like hang out. I'm like, oh, on the couch,

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Speaker 3: just talking like adults and having.

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Speaker 1: A good time. It was a very warm and beautiful homie.

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Speaker 1: You know, I loved it. I feel like you know

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Speaker 1: it was it filled my cup, as they say, filled

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Speaker 1: my cup up, and I was really low that day.

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Speaker 1: So thank you, thank you again, and to your sister

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Speaker 1: Tracy and just Superman. I hope his movie Theater in

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Speaker 1: the Basement is coming along well. Excited to hit him

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Speaker 1: up at the twin Is that what the speakeasy is called? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Twins Place, Twins Place, Okay, twins Place.

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Speaker 3: The speak that's fun.

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Speaker 1: All right, Well, I hope we can do. I'm like,

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Speaker 1: when am I gonna see whatever? You guys will see

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Speaker 1: the pictures, So I guess I'll see you get in

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