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Speaker 1: First of all, you don't know me.

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Speaker 2: All about that.

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Speaker 3: High school drama, Girl Drama, Girl, all about them high

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Speaker 3: school queens. We'll take you for a ride, and our

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Speaker 3: comic girl sharing for the right teams, Drama, Queens of

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Speaker 3: Girl Fashion, which you'll tough.

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Speaker 4: Girl, you could sit with us, Girl Drama, Queens Drama,

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Speaker 4: Queise Drama, Queens Drama, Drama, Queens Drama, Queens.

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Speaker 5: Hey, guys, welcome back. Oh my gosh, it's season five.

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Speaker 5: It's the premiere of season five. Four years later, everything's different.

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Speaker 6: Understatement of the year.

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Speaker 5: I know, like I wish we had had a lot

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Speaker 5: more Internet back then because it would have been really

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Speaker 5: fun to see. I know there were message boards, but

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Speaker 5: it would have been fun to see like Twitter for example,

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Speaker 5: our Instagram, you know, and there's just to really feel

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Speaker 5: the crowd reaction because back then we were like, we're

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Speaker 5: gonna try this thing.

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Speaker 7: I hope it works, and you know, we can.

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Speaker 5: Sort of guess that people liked it, but I bet

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Speaker 5: there are a lot of fans out there who were

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Speaker 5: calling each other and writing I don't know what do

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Speaker 7: Message boards again.

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Speaker 6: Well, because there's so many misdirects. It was an episode

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Speaker 6: of just like nope, nope, you didn't guess that right,

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Speaker 6: Try again, kids.

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Speaker 2: They did it so well. This was this was one

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Speaker 2: of those where you go ooh. You know, they had

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Speaker 2: all summer to think about how they were going to

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Speaker 2: in a week. They had a whole hiatus, and they

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Speaker 2: really got in there with every little detail. And it's

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Speaker 2: it's so fun now, knowing everything we know, to see

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Speaker 2: this and realize that they left so many unanswered questions,

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Speaker 2: you know, not only until the end of the episode,

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Speaker 2: but even still the audience still doesn't know who Victoria is.

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Speaker 8: I know, I was surprised at that.

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Speaker 5: I thought for sure that was coming out at the

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Speaker 5: end of the episode like okay mother or something so cool.

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Speaker 6: Oh, we're talking about season five, episode one. Four years,

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Speaker 6: six months, two days. I guess. I didn't realize this

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Speaker 6: air in January. Normally our show would air in the fall,

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Speaker 6: like September, right, and so this was a later premiere.

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Speaker 6: It gave us more time to, I guess, work on

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Speaker 6: this new approach. But yeah, that's strange.

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Speaker 2: We did this have to do with the writer's strike?

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Speaker 6: Oh there was a writer strike. It happened in this season.

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Speaker 2: Yes, you're right, so remember because they were scrambling to

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Speaker 2: we could keep filming when other people were going to

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Speaker 2: have to halt. But I think because of there was

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Speaker 2: a gap at some point. I do remember we had

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Speaker 2: We'd run out of episodes, and so I think they

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Speaker 2: started airing. It's fuzzy, but I do remember the strike

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Speaker 2: being part of this.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, me too.

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Speaker 6: I remember the strike in the library episode because there

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Speaker 6: actually dealing with the writer's strike right now in our industry.

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Speaker 6: But let's explain what a writer's strike means to anybody

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Speaker 2: Well, the writers, Just so y'all know, when you see

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Speaker 2: But then they build a whole writer's room, so there's

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Speaker 2: and the room breaks story together. They come up with ideas,

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Speaker 2: you see that the studios are making record breaking profits

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Speaker 2: and it's unfair, and you know, I want everybody to

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Speaker 2: fairly more so, strike baby, strike man.

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Speaker 6: I mean anytime the industry makes like a big shift.

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Speaker 6: If you guys have been watching our show since it's

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Speaker 6: But when new technology happens, like when Netflix happens or

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Speaker 2: And I think it's important too to remind people, you know.

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Speaker 2: I actually it was such an interesting moment. I responded

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Speaker 2: to somebody on Twitter years ago about this and I went, oh,

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Speaker 2: we do need to talk about how we all work,

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Speaker 2: like in all the industries. We need to kind of

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Speaker 2: take the mystery out. It was you guys, remember when

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Speaker 2: Alan Pompeo signed her huge deal for Grey's Anatomy. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: Shows like Montree Hill or Dawson's Creek or Grey's Anatomy

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Speaker 5: which started before streaming. Our contracts were all negotiated based

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Speaker 5: It works, except now there aren't residuals because it's all streaming,

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Speaker 7: Making on streaming now.

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Speaker 5: And because she can't negotiate a contract on residuals.

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Speaker 7: It's just a whole new format.

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Speaker 2: Well, and to your point, Joy, what it means for

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Speaker 7: Our work or you're making an invention, get.

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Speaker 2: Something out of Yes, the collective and by the way,

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Speaker 2: the studios always make the most and the showrunner always

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Speaker 2: something like I've gotten residual checks for six dollars.

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Speaker 6: Oh girl, Yeah that eighty three cent check. Eight.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, you're you're like tweet.

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Speaker 2: Till it's over a dollar because you're wasting the stamp.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, please direct deposit.

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Speaker 2: The trick of streaming is that shows will go and

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Speaker 2: And it's weird to think that, like your work, your time,

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Speaker 6: Well if that isn't Brooke Davis's storyline, Yeah, that's right,

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Speaker 6: you know, Joy, give us the synopsis of this episode,

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Speaker 6: because I do like that we're talking about the business

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Speaker 6: There was so much crossover between real life and our characters'

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Speaker 5: What happened Joike Definitely four years after the season four finale,

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Speaker 5: Tree Hill is well, it's the same, but we are

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Speaker 5: don't know that this synopsis is entirely accurate. It feels

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Speaker 2: I feel like whoever wrote this synopsis it had like

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Speaker 8: Yeah, Nan and Haley are like struggling. It's tough, guys,

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Speaker 6: All Nathan does is make misses for Haley to clean up.

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Speaker 6: I would be yeah, Dune joy. What was going on

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I was really unhappy. I was I

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Speaker 2: It was just so sweet, and it was sweet to

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it was a very cool.

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Speaker 5: We started a curse jar, didn't we There was like

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Speaker 2: And we don't kind of got a salty Jackson's college fund.

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Speaker 5: There has to be someone taking a photo of that

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Speaker 2: I remember that feeling of Jackson coming to work what

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Speaker 7: Yeah, And it is.

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Speaker 2: It's a it's such a gift, and it's hard. It's

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Speaker 6: Had you like babysat much? Had you spent much time

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Speaker 6: I mean yeah, I was like, it's the babysitting and

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Speaker 6: have to have an immediate bond with this child.

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00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:46,200
Speaker 5: It wasn't hard because the kids just respond to being

440
00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:51,240
Speaker 5: treated like kids respond to being treated like a human,

441
00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:54,560
Speaker 5: like with respect and you know, listen to you and

442
00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:59,359
Speaker 5: and I guess because of my imagination, I and my

443
00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:03,840
Speaker 5: under and enjoyment of childlike wonder, it was easy for

444
00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:05,879
Speaker 5: me to get down on his level and tell me

445
00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:07,680
Speaker 5: I want to hear all about it. And I think

446
00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:10,000
Speaker 5: that's also being an actor. We empathize, so it's like

447
00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:12,680
Speaker 5: if I'm talking to an adult, I know how to interact,

448
00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:15,320
Speaker 5: I can relate that way. But with a kid, there's

449
00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:17,840
Speaker 5: a They're looking at the world a different way, and

450
00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:20,880
Speaker 5: so I want to get into their world and see

451
00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:24,679
Speaker 5: things the way they see them. So it was it

452
00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:27,879
Speaker 5: was easy with Jackson. And he was also very mature

453
00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:32,600
Speaker 5: for he really was, I guess, yeah, So I don't know.

454
00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:34,080
Speaker 5: I just think with kids, you just sort of talk

455
00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:36,280
Speaker 5: to him like a grown up, except for when they

456
00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:39,520
Speaker 5: can't understand grown up stuff, and you know, sometimes they

457
00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:42,040
Speaker 5: need to feel a little like, oh, things are exciting.

458
00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:44,920
Speaker 6: Well, remember like all the Santa conversations, like we all

459
00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:49,200
Speaker 6: had to like code everything, you guys, because we don't know,

460
00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:52,280
Speaker 6: like what does he think? What is he like? A, whoa,

461
00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:55,560
Speaker 6: it's somebody else's kid. You don't know what level he's

462
00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:59,440
Speaker 6: on with like tooth fairies and easter bunnies and things to.

463
00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:02,560
Speaker 2: Totally it was so fun like there was also to

464
00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:07,080
Speaker 2: your point, he infused wonder into the space. Yeah, and

465
00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:09,879
Speaker 2: I mean for me, you know, similarly to you Hill.

466
00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:12,840
Speaker 2: I didn't have younger siblings or anything, but I babysat

467
00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:15,800
Speaker 2: all the kids in the neighborhood. There were two little

468
00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:17,399
Speaker 2: boys right at the end of my street who I

469
00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:20,520
Speaker 2: watched like it felt like every day after school. It

470
00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:22,520
Speaker 2: was probably a couple of days a week, you know,

471
00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:25,440
Speaker 2: they were They were just like my whole little universe

472
00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:29,560
Speaker 2: as a camp counselor every summer. And now we had

473
00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:32,440
Speaker 2: this kid on set and it was like so exciting.

474
00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:35,439
Speaker 2: I remember there was a there was a time. It

475
00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:38,480
Speaker 2: might not have been season five, maybe it was in

476
00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:39,200
Speaker 2: season six.

477
00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:39,919
Speaker 1: I don't know.

478
00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:43,119
Speaker 2: It's a blur because I just think of Jackson being little.

479
00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:45,800
Speaker 2: But like I remember, we heard there was a sale

480
00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:48,080
Speaker 2: at best Buy and like me and Lee and James

481
00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:49,000
Speaker 2: went and got Wee's.

482
00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:53,720
Speaker 6: Oh I remember the big wee things. Oh yeah, that's right.

483
00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:57,720
Speaker 2: So whoever was watching Jackson, we could like everybody could

484
00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:00,800
Speaker 2: either come over or we would all have this same games.

485
00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:04,119
Speaker 2: And then it turned into like we like tennis tournaments

486
00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:08,160
Speaker 2: with him, and and I've never had a video game

487
00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:10,360
Speaker 2: console as an adult, but suddenly we had a kid

488
00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:12,200
Speaker 2: on set, and so we all turned into kids.

489
00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:14,399
Speaker 6: Hey, I got the Wii. I was down, and it

490
00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:17,040
Speaker 6: was purely for that child. It was just like, I'm

491
00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:19,400
Speaker 6: never going to play this by myself, but we might

492
00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:24,040
Speaker 6: have a six year old over. You guys, we have

493
00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:26,440
Speaker 6: a guest with us today who was a party of

494
00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:28,840
Speaker 6: this big five year jump and was actually with us

495
00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:32,280
Speaker 6: before the jump, but was living kind of the same

496
00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:38,360
Speaker 6: weird mix of fact and fiction. You've heard us talk

497
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:43,840
Speaker 6: about her a lot. We know her as Lassiter. Is

498
00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:44,720
Speaker 6: it stone now?

499
00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:45,080
Speaker 1: No?

500
00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:46,000
Speaker 6: Stone's her maid name.

501
00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:46,719
Speaker 7: So there's Stone.

502
00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:52,120
Speaker 6: She's last at her stone now, which isn't even sexier name?

503
00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:56,479
Speaker 6: Oh I mean yes, yeah, So let's bring Lastedter in here,

504
00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:59,600
Speaker 6: because she lived with us. This is the This was

505
00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:02,080
Speaker 6: the girl that put up with us at four o'clock

506
00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:05,400
Speaker 6: in the morning and also made sure we got into bed.

507
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:19,480
Speaker 6: Lassener was our camp counselor you no kidding blassitter? Oh

508
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:23,520
Speaker 6: my god, exactly the same same.

509
00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:28,719
Speaker 1: Oy my glasses. I was multitasking and working while I

510
00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:29,720
Speaker 1: was waiting Heid.

511
00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:30,560
Speaker 6: What's on?

512
00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:33,040
Speaker 8: My gosh, it's great to see you.

513
00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:39,720
Speaker 6: Oh y'all. How fun y'all. Lassener is She is the tallest,

514
00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:43,920
Speaker 6: blondest Southern queen and we were so lucky to have

515
00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:46,760
Speaker 6: her with us on set. Lesser you explained to everybody,

516
00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:49,680
Speaker 6: but what your job was on One Tree Hill?

517
00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:54,159
Speaker 1: Happy to do it, Hillary, Here we go let me

518
00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:58,159
Speaker 1: really get into it here. No, I'm glad you asked.

519
00:26:58,320 --> 00:26:58,439
Speaker 6: Uh.

520
00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:03,200
Speaker 1: So I I started as the as a PA, a

521
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:07,040
Speaker 1: set PA, which is production assistant. You work in the

522
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:12,919
Speaker 1: AD department assistant director and uh you you know you

523
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:14,280
Speaker 1: do it all right?

524
00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:14,719
Speaker 6: Now?

525
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:19,200
Speaker 1: How you know? How how self deprecating should I get?

526
00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:20,800
Speaker 6: I know, it's such an understatement.

527
00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:23,639
Speaker 5: It's a job where, like anything that somebody asks you for,

528
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:26,440
Speaker 5: your answer is yes, and then you just figure out

529
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:27,320
Speaker 5: how to get it.

530
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:31,760
Speaker 1: Or do it or do it or I mean, you know,

531
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:36,560
Speaker 1: y'all cracking me up in these episodes talking about I mean,

532
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:39,080
Speaker 1: sof with the stories about talking to the people who

533
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:42,240
Speaker 1: own the houses like on like when we're on location

534
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:44,320
Speaker 1: and having to go be like hey, turn off that

535
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:48,640
Speaker 1: leaf blower or change job, please help us please? Oh

536
00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 1: my gosh. I mean I would go out and stop traffic, like, yes, stop,

537
00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:55,679
Speaker 1: I mean, why would they listen to me? I had

538
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:58,159
Speaker 1: a walkie talkie and like a fanny pack and a

539
00:27:58,200 --> 00:27:58,800
Speaker 1: bunch of shops.

540
00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:01,240
Speaker 5: I sent you because you were so tall and so

541
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:03,840
Speaker 5: blonde and so tan, and it was You're like a vision.

542
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:06,800
Speaker 5: Anywhere that you went, it was like people just stopped

543
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:09,240
Speaker 5: and stared. So of course they sent you to stop drafting.

544
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:11,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, because you kind of scramble people's brains. You're very

545
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:15,560
Speaker 2: tall and authoritative, so you're intimidating, but also you're gorgeous,

546
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,360
Speaker 2: so they want to be your friend, and they're just like.

547
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:21,560
Speaker 8: A You're so friendly. It's like, what do I do

548
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 8: with this?

549
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:25,720
Speaker 1: Please stop walking through the shot we're filming. Yeah, I

550
00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:29,920
Speaker 1: had no authority whatsoever, So PA stuff. When you start out,

551
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:32,280
Speaker 1: you know, you're kind of just doing You're keeping it,

552
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:35,639
Speaker 1: you're keeping stuff moving, you're helping every department. You're the

553
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:41,200
Speaker 1: liaison between the director and the crew and the cast.

554
00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:44,280
Speaker 1: And then on you know, on One Tree Hill, when

555
00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:47,480
Speaker 1: you're working episodic, you kind of work your way up.

556
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:52,600
Speaker 1: So that first year so I started season two. Very

557
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:56,000
Speaker 1: first episode of season two, I'd never heard of this show.

558
00:28:56,080 --> 00:29:00,840
Speaker 1: We didn't have the CW and Richmond, Okay, I had

559
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:02,000
Speaker 1: no clue.

560
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 6: You didn't have the whole channel. You're just like, we

561
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:06,280
Speaker 6: don't want those.

562
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:08,240
Speaker 7: I know so many people back then that didn't have

563
00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:08,720
Speaker 7: a CW.

564
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 6: They're like, oh.

565
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:10,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, y'all.

566
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:14,760
Speaker 1: My my aunt they I think we had the WB maybe,

567
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 1: but they weren't running the show during primetime at all.

568
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:21,240
Speaker 1: My aunt Elsie used to tape it with the VHS

569
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:25,440
Speaker 1: at one am. It ran at one am. Enriched what

570
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:29,959
Speaker 1: she would tape it for me and to show my

571
00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:34,480
Speaker 1: mom and like my brothers, like see what Lassiter was working.

572
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:37,320
Speaker 6: On, or sometimes ce Lassiter. We loved seeing you in

573
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:41,000
Speaker 6: the elevator of the hospital one episode kill me.

574
00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:44,959
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Yes, I have a confession. I can

575
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,800
Speaker 1: see myself getting read. I have a little confession. I

576
00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:50,840
Speaker 1: had never watched the show good.

577
00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:52,960
Speaker 8: That's well, we haven't really either.

578
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:55,120
Speaker 5: I mean, so you're in a good company. This is

579
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 5: our first way through it.

580
00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 1: So honestly, I've never seen a full episode. And when

581
00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:05,240
Speaker 1: like DMed me about the shout out in the podcast

582
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:07,160
Speaker 1: about the elevator, I went back and watched it and

583
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:11,959
Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, not only is it

584
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:15,920
Speaker 1: fully me, but like I'm wearing like a ratty T shirt.

585
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:18,320
Speaker 6: Listen, everybody has to go to the hospital.

586
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 1: I'm in the background of a lot of episodes, mostly

587
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:26,280
Speaker 1: holding my ear like this, trying to hide my earpiece.

588
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:32,800
Speaker 1: Walk go countercross to the background. But yeah, I mean

589
00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:36,560
Speaker 1: a PA does a lot of stuff. I started at

590
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:38,680
Speaker 1: the bottom, you know, coming in a couple of days

591
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:43,840
Speaker 1: a week on season two, and then by season three, uh,

592
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 1: I got a sign to base camp. Yeah, which is

593
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:49,440
Speaker 1: you know, back with you guys. That was one of

594
00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:51,480
Speaker 1: my most fun fun seasons.

595
00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:54,360
Speaker 6: You were the best in base camp because Alex Astapey

596
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:57,480
Speaker 6: would get mad at us anytime we asked for stuff, right,

597
00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:01,040
Speaker 6: but I love Alex so much. I love Yeah. I

598
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 6: mean it takes a lot to be a base camp PA,

599
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:04,960
Speaker 6: because you're dealing with not only the crew and what's

600
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,480
Speaker 6: happening it on set, but with all the actors who

601
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 6: are a nightmare and oh yeah, lassiter you just were

602
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:13,800
Speaker 6: such a good sport and like in a good mood

603
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:15,680
Speaker 6: all the time, so it forced all of us to

604
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:17,720
Speaker 6: be like, okay, fine, will be.

605
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:21,280
Speaker 1: Well, you guys were so sweet, you know. I mean

606
00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:23,960
Speaker 1: my friends used to ask me questions. Season three was

607
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 1: really fun for me to be back there with you guys,

608
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:30,680
Speaker 1: and not only you guys, but you know Jojo, Yeah,

609
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:35,120
Speaker 1: come on, oh I heard it. Don't you work? And Hillary?

610
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:39,960
Speaker 1: Dang if you didn't talk about that serpentarian story.

611
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 6: Oh my god, lassiter LASSI was at the serpentarium when

612
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 6: there was a snake attack.

613
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:45,440
Speaker 5: You know that.

614
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:52,080
Speaker 1: I'm still terrified, Yeah, like terrified. You guys are so funny, yeah, Jojo,

615
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 1: I mean that was just really fun to like just

616
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 1: be back there with you guys, and you all were

617
00:31:56,080 --> 00:32:01,720
Speaker 1: so gracious and just really sweet. There was never you know,

618
00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:05,760
Speaker 1: my friends used to say, like, you know, what's it like,

619
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:08,520
Speaker 1: like are they you know, how is it everybody? How's

620
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:11,920
Speaker 1: the cast? I'm like, they're awesome. They're our age, they're fun.

621
00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:15,480
Speaker 1: We all hang out and they're really sweet, like they're

622
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:18,000
Speaker 1: going through the same things we are. So I feel

623
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:21,120
Speaker 1: like season three was really a nice I don't know,

624
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 1: it felt it was. That was a nice year. It

625
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:26,520
Speaker 1: was really fun stressful job. It was a really stressful job.

626
00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 2: There's so much you have to manage because you know, again,

627
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:34,720
Speaker 2: friends at home like when Lassitter talks about running base Camp.

628
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:37,840
Speaker 2: She's running the schedules for every single person and every

629
00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 2: single chair, so hair making special effects, getting all the

630
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:44,800
Speaker 2: everyone timed in exactly right, so the chairs are never

631
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:47,360
Speaker 2: empty and everyone's ready on time, and people go back

632
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:49,400
Speaker 2: to change when somebody else is getting makeup done and

633
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:53,400
Speaker 2: she's making sure. You know, it's a huge machine. Yeah,

634
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:55,960
Speaker 2: you managed to make it so fun. I will never

635
00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:58,120
Speaker 2: forget the day. I don't know if you remember this,

636
00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 2: but I obviously will never forget it when I came

637
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:04,840
Speaker 2: back to base camp, because you guys would always like

638
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 2: some days I'd come back from set and it would

639
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:08,800
Speaker 2: like make me want to cry because it was so sweet.

640
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:11,400
Speaker 2: You got like you and one other person or you

641
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:13,840
Speaker 2: and Jojo would be out waiting on us to you know,

642
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 2: finish a scene, and you'd have Patch and Penny out

643
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:18,560
Speaker 2: and like a tennis ball and the dogs be running around,

644
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:20,600
Speaker 2: and I was just like, oh my god, they're really

645
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:22,240
Speaker 2: nice to us and they like my dogs.

646
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 1: And I forgot about the dogs.

647
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:28,000
Speaker 2: Yes, the sweet babes. And there was one day where

648
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,000
Speaker 2: I came back and we had just been it was

649
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:33,560
Speaker 2: like a slap happy day, and I opened my trailer door,

650
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 2: and Patch wasn't in there, and I went into hair

651
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 2: because Jojo would take him in the trailer, and you

652
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 2: guys were all in there, just like slamming coffees, and

653
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:46,000
Speaker 2: Kelly Jefferson had drawn eyebrows on Patch like this full makeup,

654
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:48,960
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, and put him Jojo had put him

655
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:52,040
Speaker 2: in a blonde wig. And you just looked at me like,

656
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:53,720
Speaker 2: is she gonna think this is funny? Or is she

657
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:56,760
Speaker 2: going to be mad? And I died like I was

658
00:33:56,840 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 2: laughing so hard I couldn't breathe. And it's like that

659
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:04,000
Speaker 2: stuff that I remember almost more than anything Patch.

660
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:08,800
Speaker 1: I forgot about Patch. I'm not gonna lie. Yeah, yes, Patch,

661
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 1: you all were.

662
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 6: It was so fun.

663
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:13,640
Speaker 1: We had a good you know, we had a good time,

664
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:17,240
Speaker 1: and I was always I took my job very seriously

665
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 1: as a PA. I feel like Hillary, Hillary knows you

666
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 1: had a very serious department.

667
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:27,080
Speaker 6: You all lived at my house like you lived. You

668
00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 6: were like a block away for a while. I was

669
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:32,440
Speaker 6: like on third Street. You were on fourth Street.

670
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:34,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, fourth and none.

671
00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:37,279
Speaker 5: But the PA has to take their job seriously, the

672
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:39,799
Speaker 5: whole ad department. I mean, the show will production will

673
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:42,120
Speaker 5: fall apart if the if the ad Department's not on.

674
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 1: I'm glad you said that. Joy like it really is.

675
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:46,279
Speaker 1: You know, it was a big deal and at first

676
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:49,720
Speaker 1: I didn't quite understand. And you know, I'm kind of like, okay,

677
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:51,640
Speaker 1: I'm running. You know, I didn't. I was a film

678
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 1: major in college. I knew I wanted to go into

679
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:57,520
Speaker 1: production and you know, do something like this. And I'm

680
00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:00,320
Speaker 1: from Richmond, so I always knew about screen gyms videos

681
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 1: in Wilmington. And you know, I got the job. Again,

682
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 1: had never heard of the show because it was only

683
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:08,439
Speaker 1: the first season.

684
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 6: Did you get it right out of college?

685
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:15,480
Speaker 1: So so right out? So I went to University of Alabama, Hillary,

686
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:16,560
Speaker 1: where I first met you.

687
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:19,720
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, Alabama Homecoming MTV.

688
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:21,480
Speaker 1: Oh my god, MTV.

689
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:23,840
Speaker 6: You and Laala just killing it.

690
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 4: Yeah.

691
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:27,880
Speaker 1: Hillary and I were like destined to be connected somehow.

692
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:32,240
Speaker 1: It's so bizarre. My first internship as a film student

693
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:37,440
Speaker 1: at Alabama was for MTV and Hillary came to Tuscaloosa

694
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:39,840
Speaker 1: and I was like the PA.

695
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:43,320
Speaker 6: That trip was wild outcast performed it was awesome.

696
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 1: Any I feel like I gave you a tour of

697
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:46,560
Speaker 1: the Kappa House.

698
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:49,040
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, yeah yeah.

699
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 1: So then I moved to Telluride, Colorado, where I was

700
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:55,759
Speaker 1: working in a snowboard shop and like bartending and just.

701
00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 6: Like, oh yeah, remember that about your coyote ugly summer.

702
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:02,919
Speaker 1: That's right, that's all right. Whoo. But only I could

703
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:07,600
Speaker 1: sing and dance like a non six foot terribly awkward person.

704
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:10,840
Speaker 2: I've got a lot of photos from all of us

705
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:14,719
Speaker 2: karaoke downtown Lasser. I've heard you saying you have not

706
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:19,719
Speaker 2: maybe it's a scream saying, but it works, Sophia.

707
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:21,839
Speaker 1: I have some good photos of us, and like some

708
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:26,800
Speaker 1: some really really questionable genes. Oh no, our gene game

709
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:27,920
Speaker 1: was so strong.

710
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:30,719
Speaker 6: God, the early two thousands were brutal on done o

711
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:31,280
Speaker 6: oh my god.

712
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:33,560
Speaker 2: Lastitar, the three of us have talked so much about

713
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:35,640
Speaker 2: how in that era just the whole top half of

714
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 2: our pants was missing, just missing.

715
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 1: I know, okay, I need them.

716
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:42,400
Speaker 2: No, you go back to the work stuff. Oh my god.

717
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:45,759
Speaker 1: So I literally I was, yeah, I was working. I

718
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 1: was managing a snowboard chop alternative edge so cool, and

719
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 1: I literally had like a sort of a moment where

720
00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:59,080
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm not doing anything with my degree.

721
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 1: I need to figure this out. I had sort of

722
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 1: like a you know, not a panic attack, but like, okay,

723
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:07,360
Speaker 1: I need to get a real job. And so I

724
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 1: cold emailed David Bright Bill.

725
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:13,640
Speaker 6: Stop so for you guys at home. He was our

726
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:16,759
Speaker 6: second AD and that's the person in charge of kind

727
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:19,719
Speaker 6: of hiring pas and doing all the scheduling on our show.

728
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:23,360
Speaker 1: So I emailed and I said, you know, hi, my

729
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:26,840
Speaker 1: name's Laster. You know I have this internship one time.

730
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:30,600
Speaker 1: I didn't know if there was anything filming. All it

731
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:33,879
Speaker 1: was was like a production office email. And I said,

732
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 1: you know, I don't even know what job you would

733
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:42,400
Speaker 1: hire me for, but entry level bottom. Yeah. He emailed

734
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:45,400
Speaker 1: me back the next day and said, we're looking for

735
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:48,640
Speaker 1: pas for a new show. Can you get to Wilmington

736
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:49,360
Speaker 1: in three days?

737
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:50,359
Speaker 6: Stop it?

738
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:53,800
Speaker 1: So I was ready to go, Like I had already

739
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:55,160
Speaker 1: figured out that I was going to move back from

740
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:56,880
Speaker 1: tell you I had been about a year. I just

741
00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 1: wanted to do like a year, like a fun year

742
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:02,719
Speaker 1: out west and then and so I came home, my

743
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:05,120
Speaker 1: mom drove me to Wilmington. Didn't have a house yet,

744
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:12,800
Speaker 1: went in for the interview, wore like suit pants probably

745
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:17,359
Speaker 1: six three I don't know if you guys remember, like

746
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:18,239
Speaker 1: the couch and the.

747
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 2: Ad office low to the ground.

748
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:21,880
Speaker 6: It's so low.

749
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:24,840
Speaker 1: So I come in everyone's wearing like fanny packs and

750
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 1: running shoes or short and like a suit and tie.

751
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 1: Basically you know, I'm here for the interview, and I couldn't.

752
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:37,680
Speaker 1: I remember like going to sit down on the couch

753
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:40,760
Speaker 1: and my heels were so high that like my whole

754
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:44,200
Speaker 1: body like creaked, and I was like getting down like

755
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:46,800
Speaker 1: he was like he was basically like, you know, do

756
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 1: you know how to take coffee orders? And I was

757
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:53,800
Speaker 1: like sure. So the next day I got the job

758
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:56,839
Speaker 1: and I had to find a place to live and

759
00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 1: that was it. I mean, it all happened in like

760
00:38:58,600 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 1: a week.

761
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:02,640
Speaker 6: That's crazy. But so many people ask us, how can

762
00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 6: I get involved in the film industry? How can I

763
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:07,719
Speaker 6: get my foot in the door? And that boldness of

764
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:11,359
Speaker 6: making the cold call or just sending the email and

765
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:13,640
Speaker 6: not knowing exactly what the job is, but being like

766
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 6: I'm here to help in any capacity, that is the

767
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:18,799
Speaker 6: way to get into the business. Yeah, people want to

768
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 6: know that you're flexible.

769
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:21,920
Speaker 5: And they have to know that they can trust you

770
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:25,880
Speaker 5: to be assertive and just take take matters into your

771
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:29,520
Speaker 5: own hands. Because a huge part of the creative flow

772
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:31,640
Speaker 5: is being able to trust that all the people around

773
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:33,719
Speaker 5: you are doing their job and that they don't have

774
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:36,200
Speaker 5: to be have their hand held through everything. Like I

775
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:38,440
Speaker 5: can trust that somebody else is taking care of a

776
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:40,240
Speaker 5: B or C in their department.

777
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:42,040
Speaker 7: It's it's huge.

778
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:44,040
Speaker 5: And so even just the fact that you, yeah, did

779
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:46,640
Speaker 5: that cold call and came in you're ready and yeah,

780
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 5: it makes a big difference.

781
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:49,440
Speaker 1: I don't. I mean, I didn't know a soul.

782
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:49,839
Speaker 5: Yeah.

783
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 1: I moved there and just started working, and I really

784
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:54,960
Speaker 1: didn't have any you know, I didn't have any friends.

785
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:57,359
Speaker 1: And Hillary, I don't know if you remember this. I

786
00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:02,399
Speaker 1: was mortified. So I didn't know what show it was

787
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:05,040
Speaker 1: and I didn't know who was on it. And I

788
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:08,400
Speaker 1: went in for my first day and I saw Hillary

789
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:11,200
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh my god, she's like we

790
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 1: did that thing in MTV. Like, is she going to

791
00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:14,319
Speaker 1: think I'm like following her?

792
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:18,480
Speaker 7: Yes, that's funny.

793
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:20,359
Speaker 6: Least letter's playing the long game.

794
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:24,400
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. So then it gets worse. I find a

795
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:30,200
Speaker 1: house and I start working, and two days after I'd

796
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 1: been on set, I go for a jog and I

797
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:35,800
Speaker 1: pass Hillary in her front yard.

798
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:39,319
Speaker 6: I remember you jogging by the house.

799
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:47,920
Speaker 1: Gardening and I was like, oh my god.

800
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:47,840
Speaker 6: No, it's the worst.

801
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:50,160
Speaker 1: But y'all know how small that downtown is.

802
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:50,799
Speaker 2: Yeh.

803
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 6: But it became so convenient because, like the ad department,

804
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:56,480
Speaker 6: they don't get to stop work at the end of

805
00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:59,400
Speaker 6: the day. There's another like two or three hours of

806
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:03,160
Speaker 6: plan for the next day. And so either we hung

807
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:05,920
Speaker 6: out at the production office and then caravanned home together,

808
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 6: or we just did it at my house on the

809
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:09,280
Speaker 6: front porch with beers.

810
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:11,640
Speaker 1: Oh h, we had so many post production meetings at

811
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 1: your house.

812
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:15,480
Speaker 6: Yeah, it was great. It was great. But so when

813
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:17,839
Speaker 6: was the last season that you were that you were there?

814
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 6: How long did you end up staying?

815
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:22,399
Speaker 1: So I was there from season two to about I

816
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:25,920
Speaker 1: think I think it was the end of season five

817
00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:28,759
Speaker 1: slash beginning of season six. So I left during the

818
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:30,760
Speaker 1: writers strike of two thousand and seven.

819
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:34,319
Speaker 6: Yes, that's what we were just talking about that at

820
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:38,359
Speaker 6: the beginning of this episode, because this season ended up

821
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:41,960
Speaker 6: airing much later in the year because of the writer's strike.

822
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:42,959
Speaker 4: Yeah.

823
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was trying to do my homework and I went,

824
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:47,799
Speaker 1: you know, I went and looked at some dates and

825
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:52,279
Speaker 1: you know, watched the episode which is so oh yes,

826
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 1: so many memory but yeah, I left during the writer's strike.

827
00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:58,920
Speaker 1: We all, you know, we all got laid off kind of,

828
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:03,240
Speaker 1: and you know, we we I went home to Richmond,

829
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:05,720
Speaker 1: which is only a couple you know, a couple hours,

830
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:11,440
Speaker 1: and ended up actually uh meaning my now husband. During

831
00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:14,760
Speaker 1: that downtime, we were doing long distance and the writer

832
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:17,279
Speaker 1: straight kind of helped me decide whether or not I

833
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:22,879
Speaker 1: wanted to go full force a D like to become

834
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 1: a first a D, which is what my goal was

835
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 1: for a really really long time, or you know, maybe

836
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:34,400
Speaker 1: take a step back and reevaluate. And ultimately it was

837
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:38,160
Speaker 1: a really good decision for me because so again for

838
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:40,440
Speaker 1: those of you who are interested in this, you know,

839
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:45,680
Speaker 1: production world. You work your days as a PA, you

840
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:48,600
Speaker 1: get to a certain you know level, you move up,

841
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:51,360
Speaker 1: and then the next step is to become an a

842
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:55,200
Speaker 1: D and join the DGA. And I got to that level.

843
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:59,799
Speaker 1: I got my days, had a little book, and I

844
00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:04,280
Speaker 1: got had some really good advice from just some people

845
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:07,239
Speaker 1: you know that we all know from One Tree Hill. Hey,

846
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:09,560
Speaker 1: go talk to some female first ads.

847
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:11,399
Speaker 6: Well that's what I want to talk to you about,

848
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:14,799
Speaker 6: because you know, this whole beginning of season five is

849
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 6: all about the women. I mean, the boys too, but

850
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:20,799
Speaker 6: like we're all like on these career paths and some

851
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 6: of them are working and some of them aren't and

852
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 6: lasted or you were the best at your job, Like

853
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:29,799
Speaker 6: of everyone, you were the best at it, and it

854
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:34,440
Speaker 6: makes me sad that it was an inhospitable environment for

855
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:38,239
Speaker 6: you to achieve what you originally thought you wanted too.

856
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, it's funny. In my attic right now,

857
00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:46,759
Speaker 1: there's still a box of paper call sheets, girl.

858
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:49,319
Speaker 6: Cause you're gonna come back and like reason when when

859
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:50,960
Speaker 6: the kids are grown up, you're like.

860
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:53,319
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I could first remember I have five

861
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:57,360
Speaker 1: hundred days on one Tree Hill. Yeah no, but it's no,

862
00:43:57,480 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 1: it's true. And I'm glad you brought that up because

863
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:01,120
Speaker 1: I think there are a lot of things in this

864
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:06,880
Speaker 1: episode that were so interesting. To close that loop, I

865
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:09,520
Speaker 1: got some advice from female first ads in the first

866
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:11,440
Speaker 1: thing they said, and I mean, y'all know we were

867
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:16,400
Speaker 1: what twenty we're maybe twenty three at twenty four, twenty three,

868
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:19,480
Speaker 1: twenty four, you and I are about the same age. Yeah,

869
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:21,479
Speaker 1: they said, do you know the first thing they said

870
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:22,960
Speaker 1: was do you want to get married? And I was like,

871
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:26,359
Speaker 1: well yeah. They were like wow, you probably can if

872
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:27,920
Speaker 1: you're going to be a first ad. I mean this

873
00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 1: was you know, fifteen years ago. It was really hard

874
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:35,799
Speaker 1: for women to get this role. But yeah, I just

875
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:38,319
Speaker 1: kind of, yeah, I took a step back. I don't know,

876
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:41,040
Speaker 1: it was tough. I got some advice saying like, if

877
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:43,600
Speaker 1: you want kids and if you want a family, I

878
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:45,319
Speaker 1: don't know if this is the right move for you

879
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:49,160
Speaker 1: at this moment. Yeah, And I was like, well, crap,

880
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:51,800
Speaker 1: what I've been doing for four years?

881
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:54,280
Speaker 5: Well, you were learning, you were growing, you were figuring

882
00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:57,640
Speaker 5: out who you are, and that's absolutely valuable. But it

883
00:44:57,680 --> 00:45:01,040
Speaker 5: isn't all consuming, very demanding job.

884
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:02,600
Speaker 7: Yeah, but it.

885
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:05,400
Speaker 1: Was fun, you know, in our in early twenties, it

886
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:08,400
Speaker 1: was really fun. We weren't allowed to sit down yet,

887
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:11,120
Speaker 1: go go go right, yes, right.

888
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:12,800
Speaker 6: There was a there was a rule. It's not a

889
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:14,799
Speaker 6: rule on every set. And I didn't know that.

890
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:18,359
Speaker 7: Thing, Like, no, I didn't know that's not a rule

891
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:18,839
Speaker 7: on every set.

892
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 6: It's not a rule on every set. No, pas on

893
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:24,920
Speaker 6: other jobs are allowed to sit down. But PA's on

894
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:28,080
Speaker 6: One Tree Hill were never allowed to sit down. It's

895
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:28,760
Speaker 6: not allowed.

896
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:31,320
Speaker 7: Oh my gosh, that's wild.

897
00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:33,760
Speaker 1: I mean, my you know, my calves were killer.

898
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:46,399
Speaker 6: So you obviously you know you have a beautiful family now,

899
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:48,919
Speaker 6: but what was the pivot? Like, how did you take

900
00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:51,360
Speaker 6: the skills that you learned as a PA and apply

901
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:53,720
Speaker 6: them to a totally different career path.

902
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 1: So well, Joyce said a really nice thing a little

903
00:45:57,040 --> 00:45:59,400
Speaker 1: while ago, just about being able to you know, I

904
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:02,760
Speaker 1: don't know apt and pivot and you know, handle situations.

905
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:06,080
Speaker 1: So those I speak at a lot of career days,

906
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:08,560
Speaker 1: like at my old high school and my kids' schools. Now,

907
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:10,399
Speaker 1: I just did career day last week, and I still

908
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:12,719
Speaker 1: I talk about how the things I learned on One

909
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:16,600
Speaker 1: Tree Hill have translated perfectly into what I'm doing now,

910
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:20,400
Speaker 1: which is advertising, which is a weird It's kind of

911
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:21,120
Speaker 1: a weird turn.

912
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 6: That's so cool.

913
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:25,759
Speaker 1: How So, so when I first when I first moved

914
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:28,880
Speaker 1: back to Richmond, I got a job in post production

915
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:32,840
Speaker 1: at an audio editing like a recording studio in Richmond.

916
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:35,920
Speaker 1: Oh cool, and Joy, I'll never forget. I have to

917
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:39,600
Speaker 1: tell a funny story about you. It was like my

918
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:42,799
Speaker 1: the first month there, and all of a sudden, my

919
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:46,320
Speaker 1: phone rings and like I had left Wilmington, I'm in Richmond,

920
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:48,120
Speaker 1: and I get a call from Joy and I used

921
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:50,240
Speaker 1: to get calls a lot from like Brookman.

922
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:53,279
Speaker 6: Ah, Maddie Yeah, and Jadik and all.

923
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:55,360
Speaker 1: Those guys like Chris. They would all call me and

924
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:59,480
Speaker 1: like prank me during my during my office job. And

925
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:02,680
Speaker 1: I feel like you were like driving through Virginia and

926
00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:06,160
Speaker 1: you called me and you were like Lass, like I'm

927
00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:10,839
Speaker 1: lost in Virginia and I need directions. And I was like, joy,

928
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:12,759
Speaker 1: I have no idea where you are, but I have

929
00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:16,719
Speaker 1: a job. And you were like, I'm so happy for you,

930
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:20,279
Speaker 1: Like you were so sweet, but it was like Virginia

931
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:23,160
Speaker 1: and so you just gave me a call like maybe

932
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:25,120
Speaker 1: I would know you know where to go.

933
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:27,480
Speaker 8: What a space cadet.

934
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:28,919
Speaker 1: That's so fun.

935
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:31,400
Speaker 5: That is such a but also like how how telling

936
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:33,719
Speaker 5: that we get so used to our we lean on

937
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:36,920
Speaker 5: our pas for everything in every way that like I'm

938
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:39,239
Speaker 5: literally not even on set, I'm lost in Virginia and.

939
00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:40,920
Speaker 6: I'm like last or you can help me.

940
00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:44,920
Speaker 5: That is the that is the bad cliche of every

941
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:47,440
Speaker 5: actress in every nineties movie.

942
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:50,080
Speaker 1: I was so touched. I thought it was so sweet,

943
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:51,919
Speaker 1: and I just I didn't know how to help because

944
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:52,759
Speaker 1: I didn't know where you were.

945
00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:58,080
Speaker 5: I know, I remember being lost in Richmond, Virginia. And

946
00:47:58,120 --> 00:47:59,759
Speaker 5: that makes sense to me that that's why I would

947
00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:02,560
Speaker 5: have called you too. I know, well we should have

948
00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:04,960
Speaker 5: had coffee. Wish I had been able to find my

949
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:05,839
Speaker 5: way to you.

950
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:08,000
Speaker 1: It feels so bad that I couldn't help.

951
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:11,160
Speaker 7: My funny story was last?

952
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:11,440
Speaker 1: Or is that?

953
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:13,799
Speaker 5: I remember being on set the day that we were

954
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:17,040
Speaker 5: shooting on the football field with James, and we had

955
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:19,520
Speaker 5: the picnic blanket and the and the sprinklers went off

956
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:21,200
Speaker 5: and it was like all this and Karen had a

957
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:22,520
Speaker 5: thing on the football field too.

958
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:24,719
Speaker 7: But Sophia was it.

959
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:26,640
Speaker 5: Sophia and I were trying to get to there was

960
00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:28,920
Speaker 5: a there was some kind of pa. Everybody was on

961
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:31,120
Speaker 5: their walkie, like, Sophia, you weren't in that scene.

962
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:31,680
Speaker 7: What was going on?

963
00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:34,040
Speaker 5: There was something, some reason we were in the football field.

964
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:36,239
Speaker 5: Maybe it was me and James or somebody was like

965
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:39,399
Speaker 5: it was like five bucks on Joy, five bucks on James,

966
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:41,680
Speaker 5: Like who's going to get to set first? And you

967
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:44,440
Speaker 5: were and you were standing by the craft service table

968
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 5: and we were all we were all like on our

969
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:49,200
Speaker 5: way walk into set, and I was like ooh, te

970
00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:51,239
Speaker 5: and I turned and I walked into the into the

971
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:53,120
Speaker 5: craft trailer and I heard you just get on your

972
00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:55,800
Speaker 5: walk and you're like, joy stop to Crafty. Joy stopped

973
00:48:55,840 --> 00:49:00,120
Speaker 5: at Crafty.

974
00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:01,520
Speaker 1: Just won five bucks.

975
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:04,800
Speaker 8: You guys had like a whole horse race going. It

976
00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:05,680
Speaker 8: is so funny.

977
00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:08,880
Speaker 7: One of the many wonderful fun moments with you.

978
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:11,279
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, well, so many fun moments. I know,

979
00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:14,400
Speaker 1: I feel like I need more than an hour. So

980
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:19,120
Speaker 1: all right again closing the loop. Got into post production

981
00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:22,160
Speaker 1: and I knew, like they we were doing a d

982
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:25,359
Speaker 1: R and we were recording, you know, we were doing

983
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:29,880
Speaker 1: voiceover stuff for commercials at this advertising agency in Richmond,

984
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:32,440
Speaker 1: and I just got into I knew all the aspects

985
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:35,480
Speaker 1: of production. I knew, you know, what was going on

986
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:38,480
Speaker 1: on set. You know, time is money, how to deal

987
00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:43,760
Speaker 1: with talent. Uh, you know, just I learned so much,

988
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:49,000
Speaker 1: and at such a young age about the industry and

989
00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:53,239
Speaker 1: just the word the inner workings of everything. So then

990
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:55,520
Speaker 1: I got into production for a little bit, and then

991
00:49:55,520 --> 00:49:58,400
Speaker 1: I started at the Martin Agency, which is in Richmond.

992
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:02,760
Speaker 1: It's like a national advertising agency. We do all the

993
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:09,000
Speaker 1: Geico uh fun. Yeah. So if I remember running into you,

994
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:14,360
Speaker 1: were we at the Bowery Hotel remember in New York. Yes,

995
00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:18,520
Speaker 1: you were with Sam Barry from Yes Clamor.

996
00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:21,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, my sweet friend Sam.

997
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:25,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's doing so well by the way, she's crushing

998
00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:29,480
Speaker 1: and a glamor. She uh ran into you. I was

999
00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:32,840
Speaker 1: there editing some I think it was Discover card for

1000
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:34,279
Speaker 1: maybe Midas.

1001
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:39,600
Speaker 6: That's that you're so you. You something you learned to

1002
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:42,520
Speaker 6: deal with our like little like nasty egos in our

1003
00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:44,440
Speaker 6: early twenties, and now you're like, now I can handle

1004
00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:47,120
Speaker 6: the big boys. Now I can handle the big brands.

1005
00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:49,800
Speaker 1: You guys did not have nasty egos.

1006
00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:53,640
Speaker 6: I did. I'm not ashamed. I still do. I'm a nasty,

1007
00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:57,440
Speaker 6: little narcissist. No, I mean it's it's it is a

1008
00:50:57,480 --> 00:51:01,680
Speaker 6: good skill set to learn how to navigate people's wants

1009
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:04,640
Speaker 6: and needs. And it's not something they tell you in college.

1010
00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:08,040
Speaker 6: It's not a class you can take like on set

1011
00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:11,120
Speaker 6: experience is everything is key.

1012
00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:14,040
Speaker 1: And now, so my current job, I'm a writer copy

1013
00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:17,279
Speaker 1: senior writer at Martin So I do you know? I

1014
00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:19,920
Speaker 1: write commercials and it's really fun.

1015
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:23,040
Speaker 8: Do you need spokes, ladies, Yeah, that's right, guys.

1016
00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:27,839
Speaker 1: I'm currently working on Old Navy and you're the fashion destination.

1017
00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:31,520
Speaker 6: Hello, bro, you give me a pair of overalls. I'm in.

1018
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:33,560
Speaker 1: I love it.

1019
00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:36,040
Speaker 5: Advertising is totally the job I always said I would

1020
00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:37,400
Speaker 5: go into if I wasn't. People are like, if you

1021
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:39,920
Speaker 5: weren't an actor, what would you do? Always said advertising.

1022
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:42,400
Speaker 5: I love that you're doing that. It looks so fun.

1023
00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:44,880
Speaker 1: It's really fun. So I went kind of from like

1024
00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:48,719
Speaker 1: the production side to now I'm the creative side. And

1025
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:50,920
Speaker 1: you know, it's really kind of fun. Is getting to

1026
00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:54,200
Speaker 1: sit in video village and have Peas bring me coffee.

1027
00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:01,680
Speaker 6: I love it you are Peyton's because in the episode

1028
00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:04,120
Speaker 6: where yeah, she's in that moment with your boss where

1029
00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:06,680
Speaker 6: she's like, I will have your job one day, but

1030
00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:09,080
Speaker 6: not like that like you did it lasted.

1031
00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:13,200
Speaker 1: It's really fun. It's fun. I love writing and and

1032
00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:16,000
Speaker 1: it's I love the creative process. I mean, I know

1033
00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:21,320
Speaker 1: you guys all do, and you know I didn't. I

1034
00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:23,640
Speaker 1: don't know. I took a windy path to get here.

1035
00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:26,200
Speaker 1: But I'm loving it. Where we've got a you know,

1036
00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:28,920
Speaker 1: I've got a big, big campaign coming out in the

1037
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:32,400
Speaker 1: fall for Old Navy, and it's really fun get I

1038
00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:35,520
Speaker 1: get to be you know, I've got two wonderful kids

1039
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:40,800
Speaker 1: and two little boys nine and six. You're still in Richmond,

1040
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:45,000
Speaker 1: I'm still in Richmond, you know, but every once in

1041
00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:47,560
Speaker 1: like twice a year, I go to La to shoot

1042
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:50,799
Speaker 1: you know, spots for about ten days, and so I

1043
00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:54,160
Speaker 1: still get that taste of h you know, I feel

1044
00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:56,440
Speaker 1: like I'm getting a little bit of the I know,

1045
00:52:56,680 --> 00:52:57,680
Speaker 1: best of both worlds.

1046
00:52:57,920 --> 00:53:01,399
Speaker 5: Yeah, what advice do you have for people who do

1047
00:53:01,480 --> 00:53:03,600
Speaker 5: want to come in at entry level in film and

1048
00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:04,600
Speaker 5: come in and vi a PA.

1049
00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:07,919
Speaker 7: I would love to just because you were so good

1050
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:08,239
Speaker 7: at it.

1051
00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:09,880
Speaker 5: And there are so many people who get in and

1052
00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:13,840
Speaker 5: they get frustrated or they feel like it's I don't know,

1053
00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:18,080
Speaker 5: if it's too demanding, or they have travel trouble keeping

1054
00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:20,200
Speaker 5: track of everything. Yeah, what are some of the most

1055
00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:24,200
Speaker 5: practical pieces of advice that you can give? And even emotional.

1056
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:29,839
Speaker 1: Well emotional, I mean, you know, keep stay grounded. You know,

1057
00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:34,120
Speaker 1: this is not your it's it's it's hard, especially and

1058
00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:36,520
Speaker 1: you guys know you know episodic stuff. I mean I

1059
00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:41,359
Speaker 1: was there. My days were eighteen hours, you know, first

1060
00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:44,080
Speaker 1: one in, last one out, and it's hard not to

1061
00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:49,440
Speaker 1: get sucked into that grind, which you know, admittedly I did,

1062
00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:52,200
Speaker 1: you know, my department was who I hung out with,

1063
00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:55,359
Speaker 1: but I'd say you know, just like stay grounded, keep

1064
00:53:55,400 --> 00:54:01,839
Speaker 1: your you know, keep your family close, and keep perspective.

1065
00:54:03,080 --> 00:54:06,600
Speaker 1: But also it's funny I say that, but also like

1066
00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:12,880
Speaker 1: go for it. It's hard to it's hard to break

1067
00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:16,080
Speaker 1: into it, but when you do. I don't know, I

1068
00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:19,279
Speaker 1: don't know how different it is for people now, if

1069
00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:21,880
Speaker 1: that makes sense, Like, yeah, I did it so long ago.

1070
00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:24,799
Speaker 1: I feel like it's easier to get a PA job

1071
00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:27,800
Speaker 1: maybe somewhere. But take it seriously.

1072
00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:30,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think the work ethic has changed a lot now, yes,

1073
00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:31,759
Speaker 5: than it used to be.

1074
00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:34,359
Speaker 1: I mean, take it seriously, keep that work ethic and

1075
00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:39,480
Speaker 1: be a sponge like that was my thing, was to

1076
00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:40,520
Speaker 1: just be a spunge.

1077
00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:40,840
Speaker 6: You know.

1078
00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:44,080
Speaker 1: I was watching y'all. I was watching the directors. I

1079
00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:48,120
Speaker 1: was watching the grips and the electricians and the camera,

1080
00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:52,000
Speaker 1: you know, the camera department. I was watching everyone.

1081
00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:54,760
Speaker 6: Didn't they try to steal you? I feel like camera

1082
00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:57,239
Speaker 6: tried to steal you at a certain point. Oh that

1083
00:54:57,520 --> 00:54:58,160
Speaker 6: is familiar.

1084
00:54:58,320 --> 00:55:02,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, Wardrobe stole me season six. I was I

1085
00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:04,400
Speaker 1: was like kind of burnout, and then I was like

1086
00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:06,160
Speaker 1: helping Wardrobe.

1087
00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:09,880
Speaker 5: And yeah, Carol, that makes sense, that's yes, it was, Carol.

1088
00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:10,839
Speaker 8: I love that.

1089
00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:11,719
Speaker 6: I love.

1090
00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:15,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, guys, I have to jump off early last er.

1091
00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:17,560
Speaker 5: It's so good to see you. Enjoy the rest of

1092
00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:21,319
Speaker 5: your chat. I loved this episode, and it's just really

1093
00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:23,359
Speaker 5: great to see you and hear that you're doing well

1094
00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:24,920
Speaker 5: and reminisce.

1095
00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:27,040
Speaker 1: I know, it's good to see you. Joy.

1096
00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:30,320
Speaker 5: My honorable mention goes to set Deck on this episode

1097
00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:32,560
Speaker 5: for the Mouth and skills.

1098
00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:34,680
Speaker 6: Apartment looks the apartment, the frat apartment.

1099
00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:37,280
Speaker 5: The frat apartment looks so good.

1100
00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:43,560
Speaker 6: Okay, bye bye bye, Lessar. Did you notice that we

1101
00:55:43,680 --> 00:55:47,000
Speaker 6: joked about how the boys like frat house apartment looked

1102
00:55:47,120 --> 00:55:48,120
Speaker 6: so good.

1103
00:55:48,160 --> 00:55:51,319
Speaker 1: That like this end up furniture. Yeah, yeah, that like

1104
00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:53,360
Speaker 1: old nineties like the wood.

1105
00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:57,280
Speaker 6: Yes, it was like dorm furniture. But then Brooks apartment,

1106
00:55:57,280 --> 00:56:00,760
Speaker 6: which is supposed to be super fancy, is like would

1107
00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:02,919
Speaker 6: you what did you say? It looked like Pier One.

1108
00:56:03,719 --> 00:56:06,439
Speaker 2: It looks like Pier one. After a clearance sale, there's

1109
00:56:06,520 --> 00:56:09,080
Speaker 2: just like a couple of random leather chairs left that

1110
00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:12,279
Speaker 2: nobody wanted. I was like, oh man, they well they

1111
00:56:12,320 --> 00:56:15,400
Speaker 2: had a really hardcore skill set. And then there was

1112
00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:17,160
Speaker 2: this other avenue that just didn't work.

1113
00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:18,880
Speaker 6: They knew we were never going back there.

1114
00:56:19,360 --> 00:56:22,000
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, gosh, well, y'all I feel I mean, I

1115
00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:24,160
Speaker 1: did watch the episode. I took some notes.

1116
00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:26,719
Speaker 6: Woh, okay, what pop to you? Like?

1117
00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:28,880
Speaker 1: Y'all don't have to talk about me. I'm boring.

1118
00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:31,880
Speaker 6: Listen, No, you're not going. But what we talked about

1119
00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:35,840
Speaker 6: before you jumped on was how meta this episode was

1120
00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:38,160
Speaker 6: because we did this five year time jump, so we're

1121
00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:40,680
Speaker 6: not in high school anymore, and essentially we're all just

1122
00:56:40,719 --> 00:56:44,600
Speaker 6: playing ourselves like you and I have both seen Sophia

1123
00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:47,479
Speaker 6: do that same walk and talk that Brooke Davis does

1124
00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:49,520
Speaker 6: with her assistant Milica, where it's like, and we need

1125
00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:51,160
Speaker 6: you to do this and this and this and also

1126
00:56:51,160 --> 00:56:52,840
Speaker 6: make this phone call and also I have to be

1127
00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:55,360
Speaker 6: here here and here, and what do you need from me? Okay, fantastic,

1128
00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:58,560
Speaker 6: here's the decision. I've seen you do it so many

1129
00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:02,719
Speaker 6: times because it's always kind and really thorough.

1130
00:57:03,239 --> 00:57:05,920
Speaker 1: Oh, I mean I can see her walking through you know,

1131
00:57:06,440 --> 00:57:08,319
Speaker 1: through base camp doing that.

1132
00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:10,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, and then.

1133
00:57:10,920 --> 00:57:13,640
Speaker 1: You guys, all of the new people in this episode.

1134
00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:14,120
Speaker 1: I have so.

1135
00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:17,760
Speaker 6: Mikayla is a goddess.

1136
00:57:17,960 --> 00:57:20,400
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. She and I still dm like she

1137
00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:22,240
Speaker 1: is the nicest person.

1138
00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:27,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's incredible and Mikayla Lisa Goldstein getting Daphne Zuniga.

1139
00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:32,880
Speaker 6: Yes, Dafney. Remember how scared we were of Daphney last

1140
00:57:33,240 --> 00:57:36,520
Speaker 6: I was terrified of her, you were I was terrified.

1141
00:57:37,600 --> 00:57:41,680
Speaker 1: I was like, uh, spaceballs anyone? Yeah, nope, jokes are

1142
00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:42,720
Speaker 1: not hitting. I'm out.

1143
00:57:43,320 --> 00:57:47,000
Speaker 2: I just remember, well, like when Daphne first came, being

1144
00:57:47,040 --> 00:57:49,360
Speaker 2: like they're gonna do it again, all I did for

1145
00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:51,400
Speaker 2: first season was walk around behind more and be like,

1146
00:57:51,400 --> 00:57:53,919
Speaker 2: don't say topic, don't say topic, don't say topic, don't

1147
00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:57,040
Speaker 2: say to pick and now yours Princess Vesta, And I

1148
00:57:57,080 --> 00:58:00,280
Speaker 2: can't say that to her, Like, oh my god. I

1149
00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:02,160
Speaker 2: was so nervous.

1150
00:58:02,480 --> 00:58:05,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I was loving. I mean there was you know,

1151
00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:10,160
Speaker 1: it was interesting. You know the season four season finale

1152
00:58:10,280 --> 00:58:13,680
Speaker 1: was so wonderful and like I have I have physical,

1153
00:58:14,240 --> 00:58:17,480
Speaker 1: like visceral memories of that, like being on the river court.

1154
00:58:18,640 --> 00:58:20,240
Speaker 1: First of all, when I watched that, all I can

1155
00:58:20,280 --> 00:58:25,560
Speaker 1: think about is hair. I can feel the humidity.

1156
00:58:25,680 --> 00:58:27,040
Speaker 6: We were all just like wet.

1157
00:58:28,240 --> 00:58:30,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, by the way you can see it. I do

1158
00:58:31,040 --> 00:58:33,040
Speaker 2: that thing like I'm hugging joy and then I'm like,

1159
00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:36,640
Speaker 2: We're not going to do this, and I'm literally peeling hair.

1160
00:58:36,880 --> 00:58:40,400
Speaker 2: Off my wet face, and I was like, it's not cute,

1161
00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:41,600
Speaker 2: but we're doing what we can.

1162
00:58:42,200 --> 00:58:44,360
Speaker 1: When I watch it, you know, you guys remember the

1163
00:58:44,360 --> 00:58:46,640
Speaker 1: scripts and stuff, but we would just get the sides,

1164
00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:48,400
Speaker 1: and you know, I didn't really know what was going

1165
00:58:48,480 --> 00:58:50,720
Speaker 1: on in the story. I'm just paying attention to my

1166
00:58:50,760 --> 00:58:54,320
Speaker 1: own job. But at like the episodes, I you know,

1167
00:58:54,560 --> 00:58:56,280
Speaker 1: when I went back and watched this one and the

1168
00:58:56,280 --> 00:59:06,080
Speaker 1: Elevator one, I was like, ding, I think all I

1169
00:59:06,120 --> 00:59:08,800
Speaker 1: think about are the locations, Like I know exactly where

1170
00:59:08,840 --> 00:59:11,560
Speaker 1: every single thing was shot. Yeah, and I think about

1171
00:59:11,600 --> 00:59:15,000
Speaker 1: where I was standing, if I was hiding behind a tree,

1172
00:59:15,360 --> 00:59:18,320
Speaker 1: you know, if I was like crouched, you know, beneath something.

1173
00:59:20,240 --> 00:59:23,120
Speaker 1: But that this one was fun. There was you know,

1174
00:59:24,040 --> 00:59:27,320
Speaker 1: coming back at season five, there were a lot of

1175
00:59:27,360 --> 00:59:32,920
Speaker 1: new locations, and I thought it was interesting, you know,

1176
00:59:34,240 --> 00:59:38,000
Speaker 1: I don't know, just the way that the women were handled.

1177
00:59:39,520 --> 00:59:42,160
Speaker 1: Looking back, it's funny. Like I think it's great for

1178
00:59:42,240 --> 00:59:46,600
Speaker 1: the show, and it was really entertaining. But four years

1179
00:59:46,640 --> 00:59:49,520
Speaker 1: out of high school, so I have to be running

1180
00:59:49,640 --> 00:59:52,280
Speaker 1: the I'm like four years out of high school. I

1181
00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:55,640
Speaker 1: was a set pa on one Tree Hill and that.

1182
00:59:55,760 --> 00:59:58,560
Speaker 6: Was considered killing it. You know what I mean, It's like, yeah,

1183
00:59:58,560 --> 01:00:03,920
Speaker 6: that was success. It's I think what happened was there

1184
01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:07,680
Speaker 6: was a revolt at the end of season four where I,

1185
01:00:08,160 --> 01:00:10,960
Speaker 6: you know, I personally was like stop touching us, you know,

1186
01:00:11,160 --> 01:00:14,520
Speaker 6: and had that interaction with our boss. Sofia was like,

1187
01:00:14,600 --> 01:00:16,440
Speaker 6: I don't want to be trapped here. I want my

1188
01:00:16,520 --> 01:00:19,680
Speaker 6: career to expand, you know, that is important to me.

1189
01:00:20,160 --> 01:00:22,480
Speaker 6: And so all of those things that we had discussed

1190
01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:27,880
Speaker 6: in season four were somehow made our tragedies at the

1191
01:00:27,920 --> 01:00:29,960
Speaker 6: beginning of season five for our characters.

1192
01:00:30,320 --> 01:00:32,400
Speaker 1: I'll picked up on that. I really did, and I've

1193
01:00:32,400 --> 01:00:33,680
Speaker 1: never thought about that before.

1194
01:00:34,640 --> 01:00:36,480
Speaker 6: And Enjoy just wanted to be with her family. So

1195
01:00:36,520 --> 01:00:38,560
Speaker 6: it's like, okay, let's start the season with a broken

1196
01:00:38,600 --> 01:00:40,320
Speaker 6: family for Haley, you know, like.

1197
01:00:40,920 --> 01:00:44,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it was really interesting and it wasn't lost

1198
01:00:44,440 --> 01:00:51,160
Speaker 2: on me. Like, while Brooke and Peyton are having different experiences,

1199
01:00:51,440 --> 01:00:55,600
Speaker 2: they're both feeling let down by and trapped by work.

1200
01:00:56,040 --> 01:00:58,800
Speaker 2: And we had had that interaction with our boss at

1201
01:00:58,800 --> 01:01:02,120
Speaker 2: the end of season four, and so our storylines became

1202
01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:04,800
Speaker 2: you're not happy here. You can't just play the game.

1203
01:01:05,360 --> 01:01:08,080
Speaker 2: You have everything you ever wanted and you don't like it.

1204
01:01:08,600 --> 01:01:11,200
Speaker 2: You're selfish. You don't know how the business works. You're

1205
01:01:11,240 --> 01:01:12,960
Speaker 2: gonna have to grow up and figure out what an

1206
01:01:12,960 --> 01:01:16,400
Speaker 2: industry is. Like, we were both getting this thing.

1207
01:01:16,960 --> 01:01:18,000
Speaker 1: Unbutton that button.

1208
01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:22,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know, smile on the red carpet, don't

1209
01:01:22,120 --> 01:01:24,680
Speaker 2: say it's hard. Unbutton that button and I'll let you

1210
01:01:24,720 --> 01:01:27,560
Speaker 2: in another meeting. You know, all of it was like ew.

1211
01:01:28,360 --> 01:01:33,440
Speaker 2: But what I appreciated, at least for the audience.

1212
01:01:33,320 --> 01:01:34,920
Speaker 6: Yeah, they didn't have to know any of that. They

1213
01:01:35,000 --> 01:01:36,560
Speaker 6: just saw girls rising above it.

1214
01:01:37,080 --> 01:01:39,920
Speaker 2: Yeah. But so interestingly they got to see a girl

1215
01:01:39,960 --> 01:01:43,160
Speaker 2: who wasn't getting everything she wanted out of her career

1216
01:01:43,200 --> 01:01:45,840
Speaker 2: and wasn't happy, and a girl who theoretically was getting

1217
01:01:45,880 --> 01:01:48,320
Speaker 2: everything she wanted out of her career and still wasn't happy.

1218
01:01:48,960 --> 01:01:53,480
Speaker 2: And what I loved, you know, probably some of the

1219
01:01:53,480 --> 01:01:57,160
Speaker 2: cool women in the room who helped, those who helped

1220
01:01:57,160 --> 01:02:02,320
Speaker 2: that dichotomy happened, the space to open up where all

1221
01:02:02,360 --> 01:02:03,600
Speaker 2: we really needed was each other.

1222
01:02:04,320 --> 01:02:06,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, and lasted.

1223
01:02:06,560 --> 01:02:08,640
Speaker 2: In the last episode, we talked about how Hillary and

1224
01:02:08,720 --> 01:02:13,560
Speaker 2: I really were able to find a safety together despite

1225
01:02:13,600 --> 01:02:16,400
Speaker 2: the ways that the powers that be had tried to

1226
01:02:16,400 --> 01:02:19,720
Speaker 2: make sure we didn't stay friends, we had found something.

1227
01:02:19,760 --> 01:02:24,080
Speaker 2: In the last episode, in the finale as us and

1228
01:02:24,160 --> 01:02:26,360
Speaker 2: so it was it's so interesting, like made me kind

1229
01:02:26,400 --> 01:02:29,360
Speaker 2: of weepy when watching this episode when it's like, well,

1230
01:02:29,400 --> 01:02:31,320
Speaker 2: all we really needed was to be together, because when

1231
01:02:31,320 --> 01:02:34,400
Speaker 2: we're together, we're safe. Yeah, when we're together, we're happy.

1232
01:02:34,440 --> 01:02:37,920
Speaker 2: When we're home, we're okay. And I don't know it

1233
01:02:37,960 --> 01:02:42,240
Speaker 2: was that made me smile despite the window dressing.

1234
01:02:43,040 --> 01:02:45,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I really love that moment in the airport.

1235
01:02:45,840 --> 01:02:48,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, it made me cry.

1236
01:02:48,240 --> 01:02:50,760
Speaker 6: Well have you ever seen on the internet lasted all

1237
01:02:50,800 --> 01:02:53,520
Speaker 6: of the fan videos that get cut together about Peyton

1238
01:02:53,560 --> 01:02:57,600
Speaker 6: and Brooke being the love story, like the airport scene

1239
01:02:57,640 --> 01:03:01,280
Speaker 6: as one hundred percent in every single one of video.

1240
01:03:01,520 --> 01:03:03,240
Speaker 1: Can we talk about the belt? Hillary?

1241
01:03:03,920 --> 01:03:04,600
Speaker 6: Which belt?

1242
01:03:05,280 --> 01:03:08,200
Speaker 1: The low slung belt? You know what I'm talking about?

1243
01:03:08,480 --> 01:03:11,680
Speaker 6: Yeah? Did you like that? As? I like that was

1244
01:03:11,720 --> 01:03:14,440
Speaker 6: a page out of your book. You were the queen

1245
01:03:14,560 --> 01:03:17,520
Speaker 6: of like a strapless dress or like a like a

1246
01:03:17,560 --> 01:03:21,240
Speaker 6: strapless like shirt with a low slung belt out on

1247
01:03:21,280 --> 01:03:24,280
Speaker 6: the town with some begle bracelets pushed up on your arm.

1248
01:03:24,440 --> 01:03:25,959
Speaker 1: Beangle bracelet's pushed up.

1249
01:03:26,160 --> 01:03:29,080
Speaker 6: Stealing all of your vibes in this episode.

1250
01:03:29,440 --> 01:03:33,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, those are my for sure. Yeah. I loved that

1251
01:03:33,480 --> 01:03:36,200
Speaker 1: and like It's so funny, you know, for anyone who's

1252
01:03:36,280 --> 01:03:40,040
Speaker 1: interested in like the location production aspect of it. That's

1253
01:03:40,080 --> 01:03:41,440
Speaker 1: the real Wilmington Airport.

1254
01:03:41,600 --> 01:03:42,520
Speaker 6: Oh yeah.

1255
01:03:42,560 --> 01:03:45,400
Speaker 1: We were able to shoot there because it's so small

1256
01:03:45,920 --> 01:03:48,600
Speaker 1: that they would literally be like, sure, we'll just stop

1257
01:03:48,640 --> 01:03:49,360
Speaker 1: all flights in.

1258
01:03:52,160 --> 01:03:54,920
Speaker 2: Well or or it would be like, well, the last

1259
01:03:54,920 --> 01:03:57,680
Speaker 2: flight today lands at six forty five, So y'all want

1260
01:03:57,680 --> 01:04:01,240
Speaker 2: to come at eight pm? Be like what, you couldn't

1261
01:04:01,280 --> 01:04:02,520
Speaker 2: do it anywhere else?

1262
01:04:02,960 --> 01:04:06,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, sitting in the rocking chairs between between scenes.

1263
01:04:06,360 --> 01:04:09,920
Speaker 6: Did you go on the LA trip with us? No?

1264
01:04:10,120 --> 01:04:12,160
Speaker 1: And I noticed that, So that's one of the I'm

1265
01:04:12,160 --> 01:04:13,960
Speaker 1: glad you called that out. That was one of the

1266
01:04:14,080 --> 01:04:19,160
Speaker 1: only times so you was it. You and Sophia have

1267
01:04:19,320 --> 01:04:23,680
Speaker 1: some exterior shots in LA. Just Hill just, oh, well,

1268
01:04:23,720 --> 01:04:24,439
Speaker 1: that's a good fake.

1269
01:04:24,520 --> 01:04:27,680
Speaker 2: Then my stuff's all supposed to be happening in New York,

1270
01:04:27,720 --> 01:04:30,240
Speaker 2: but we did it in Wilmington because there's there's buildings

1271
01:04:30,240 --> 01:04:32,919
Speaker 2: there that you can kind of fake for New York City. So, Hill,

1272
01:04:32,960 --> 01:04:34,280
Speaker 2: you were the only one who traveled.

1273
01:04:34,720 --> 01:04:37,400
Speaker 6: It was a weird trip, you know, because I was

1274
01:04:37,640 --> 01:04:39,760
Speaker 6: in this like super weird place with our boss and

1275
01:04:39,760 --> 01:04:41,400
Speaker 6: then I was like, great, now you have to come

1276
01:04:41,400 --> 01:04:44,800
Speaker 6: to me, and I was like, uh, and so I

1277
01:04:44,840 --> 01:04:50,720
Speaker 6: think I just hit out with Elizabeth Arnois and probably

1278
01:04:50,800 --> 01:04:54,160
Speaker 6: Daniille like we just were like okay later.

1279
01:04:53,960 --> 01:04:55,640
Speaker 2: Well, because you guys went and did it as a

1280
01:04:55,680 --> 01:04:56,440
Speaker 2: second unit.

1281
01:04:57,000 --> 01:04:59,439
Speaker 6: It was it was a small skeleton crew that went

1282
01:04:59,800 --> 01:05:00,880
Speaker 6: to yeah, because.

1283
01:05:00,680 --> 01:05:04,080
Speaker 2: We were still filming. Like I remember when you were

1284
01:05:04,160 --> 01:05:06,320
Speaker 2: doing stuff in La we did like a full day.

1285
01:05:06,440 --> 01:05:08,120
Speaker 2: I think I think you were with me last year

1286
01:05:08,120 --> 01:05:10,600
Speaker 2: we did a full day of photo shoots for Close

1287
01:05:10,640 --> 01:05:14,120
Speaker 2: Over Bros. Stuff for magazines and our billboards and so

1288
01:05:14,240 --> 01:05:18,040
Speaker 2: like while you guys had the director, we were doing

1289
01:05:18,160 --> 01:05:20,280
Speaker 2: all the second unit in Wilmington.

1290
01:05:20,680 --> 01:05:24,160
Speaker 6: See you were doing advertising before you were even doing advertising.

1291
01:05:24,680 --> 01:05:27,760
Speaker 1: Mm hm, I remember the photo shoot, yes, because see

1292
01:05:27,800 --> 01:05:30,520
Speaker 1: when I'm watching you know, I'm looking at all the background,

1293
01:05:31,040 --> 01:05:34,000
Speaker 1: I'm like, I remember that extra. I remember that photo shoot,

1294
01:05:35,120 --> 01:05:38,080
Speaker 1: Like whoa, I remember I had a you know I

1295
01:05:38,120 --> 01:05:40,160
Speaker 1: was having a rough day that day or you know,

1296
01:05:40,200 --> 01:05:42,640
Speaker 1: I'm hiding in this tree like that's all.

1297
01:05:43,920 --> 01:05:47,640
Speaker 6: What was your favorite episode to film?

1298
01:05:49,640 --> 01:05:53,760
Speaker 1: So good question, and it's sort of a love hate relationship.

1299
01:05:53,800 --> 01:05:56,680
Speaker 1: But honestly, you know, one of my favorite ones because

1300
01:05:56,680 --> 01:05:59,240
Speaker 1: I think I have so many memories from was the

1301
01:05:59,360 --> 01:06:07,800
Speaker 1: season for season finale? Yeah, the because that was all

1302
01:06:07,960 --> 01:06:11,919
Speaker 1: night shoots. Yes, so that was seven days of night

1303
01:06:12,080 --> 01:06:15,840
Speaker 1: shoots and that was the first, my first experience with

1304
01:06:15,880 --> 01:06:22,600
Speaker 1: a full vampire lifestyle. I remember Dacious gave me do

1305
01:06:22,880 --> 01:06:25,640
Speaker 1: like do vatine or whatever to black out my windows.

1306
01:06:27,120 --> 01:06:30,840
Speaker 1: We shot. You know, we went to work at six pm.

1307
01:06:30,960 --> 01:06:32,600
Speaker 1: We came home at six am.

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01:06:33,720 --> 01:06:35,840
Speaker 6: Do you remember going to Wilmingtonian and hanging out in

1309
01:06:35,840 --> 01:06:37,560
Speaker 6: Liz's room and drinking beers.

1310
01:06:37,240 --> 01:06:38,760
Speaker 1: After I do?

1311
01:06:39,040 --> 01:06:40,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, it was fun.

1312
01:06:41,560 --> 01:06:44,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that was one of my favorite episodes because

1313
01:06:44,160 --> 01:06:47,800
Speaker 1: I think we had a great cast. We had everybody.

1314
01:06:47,880 --> 01:06:51,520
Speaker 1: We had Bevin yeah, who I love and miss so much.

1315
01:06:53,280 --> 01:06:55,800
Speaker 1: It was just we had everybody there was like, you know,

1316
01:06:56,480 --> 01:06:59,520
Speaker 1: it was It's great. Those big episodes are really fun

1317
01:07:00,160 --> 01:07:02,360
Speaker 1: when you know, again I'm not reading the scripts, I

1318
01:07:02,360 --> 01:07:04,400
Speaker 1: don't know what's going on, but I know that all

1319
01:07:04,400 --> 01:07:06,480
Speaker 1: my favorite people are there and they're all on the

1320
01:07:06,480 --> 01:07:08,840
Speaker 1: call sheet, and I know it's going to be a

1321
01:07:08,880 --> 01:07:12,760
Speaker 1: good time. Yeah, that's I have a lot of memories

1322
01:07:12,800 --> 01:07:15,680
Speaker 1: from from that particular episode.

1323
01:07:15,840 --> 01:07:18,120
Speaker 6: And did they tell you guys anything as a crew

1324
01:07:18,240 --> 01:07:20,480
Speaker 6: what this five year time jump was going to be?

1325
01:07:21,080 --> 01:07:23,320
Speaker 1: No, no, we don't get any of that information.

1326
01:07:23,760 --> 01:07:25,760
Speaker 6: What a weird first day where you're like, why are

1327
01:07:25,840 --> 01:07:26,840
Speaker 6: you guys in college?

1328
01:07:27,320 --> 01:07:29,840
Speaker 1: Well, I just remember, yes, I remember saying did no

1329
01:07:29,920 --> 01:07:35,520
Speaker 1: one go to college? Like should anyone have gone? To

1330
01:07:36,200 --> 01:07:41,200
Speaker 1: get their BA right right around? So I was never

1331
01:07:41,240 --> 01:07:43,480
Speaker 1: really you know, we got the sides, we got what

1332
01:07:43,480 --> 01:07:45,360
Speaker 1: we're shooting that day, and that was it. So I

1333
01:07:45,400 --> 01:07:49,400
Speaker 1: was never aware of the full story of anything. And again,

1334
01:07:49,520 --> 01:07:51,440
Speaker 1: you know, we're just flying by the seat of our pants,

1335
01:07:51,480 --> 01:07:53,600
Speaker 1: trying to trying to get the scene and move on

1336
01:07:53,640 --> 01:07:56,040
Speaker 1: to the next one, like we got to wrap that crane. Guys,

1337
01:07:56,120 --> 01:07:57,480
Speaker 1: time is money, okay.

1338
01:07:57,520 --> 01:07:59,800
Speaker 2: So something so funny happened last year before you jumped

1339
01:07:59,800 --> 01:08:02,320
Speaker 2: on this zoom when me and hill Enjoy were watching

1340
01:08:02,360 --> 01:08:05,800
Speaker 2: the episode and Peyton starts to listen to the audio

1341
01:08:05,800 --> 01:08:07,760
Speaker 2: book of Lucas's book on a.

1342
01:08:08,240 --> 01:08:09,720
Speaker 6: CD five di Changer.

1343
01:08:10,200 --> 01:08:14,800
Speaker 2: Joey goes, is his book an autobiography? Did you write

1344
01:08:14,840 --> 01:08:19,240
Speaker 2: about us? And we were like, Joey, oh my god,

1345
01:08:19,320 --> 01:08:22,240
Speaker 2: the whole book is about all of us, and she goes, oh,

1346
01:08:22,240 --> 01:08:22,760
Speaker 2: I missed that.

1347
01:08:23,280 --> 01:08:25,760
Speaker 1: No idea, no idea.

1348
01:08:26,960 --> 01:08:29,160
Speaker 2: So it's just so funny when you're like, we have

1349
01:08:29,160 --> 01:08:34,280
Speaker 2: no idea what's going on. I'm like, well, clearly have the.

1350
01:08:32,880 --> 01:08:36,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's so funny. Like, yeah, I never had

1351
01:08:36,360 --> 01:08:39,240
Speaker 1: any idea what was going on. It's so funny, but

1352
01:08:39,320 --> 01:08:41,760
Speaker 1: I just knew I had to stand up and not

1353
01:08:41,880 --> 01:08:46,439
Speaker 1: sit down. Yeah yeah, and get everybody to set. And

1354
01:08:46,520 --> 01:08:49,200
Speaker 1: I will say, you know, one of my favorite themes

1355
01:08:49,320 --> 01:08:53,240
Speaker 1: of this podcast has been the hair. Oh that was

1356
01:08:53,360 --> 01:08:57,040
Speaker 1: my that was my life. Yes, that was like that

1357
01:08:57,200 --> 01:08:59,880
Speaker 1: meant two extra hours of sleep for me or not.

1358
01:09:00,200 --> 01:09:02,479
Speaker 1: Oh my god, how early I had to be there

1359
01:09:02,800 --> 01:09:05,400
Speaker 1: depending on what you know, who's who's coming in first

1360
01:09:05,439 --> 01:09:06,679
Speaker 1: and who's getting their hair done.

1361
01:09:07,120 --> 01:09:10,160
Speaker 6: If they just let us wear some ponytails, we all

1362
01:09:10,240 --> 01:09:12,560
Speaker 6: would have been like functional humans.

1363
01:09:12,720 --> 01:09:14,920
Speaker 2: Would have just been easier for everybody.

1364
01:09:15,479 --> 01:09:18,560
Speaker 6: We're going to write a new show called Ponytails, and

1365
01:09:19,040 --> 01:09:21,760
Speaker 6: Lassiter can come out of her film retirement and.

1366
01:09:23,240 --> 01:09:25,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, dry shampoo and ponies.

1367
01:09:25,880 --> 01:09:27,439
Speaker 6: Mm hmm, I love it.

1368
01:09:28,400 --> 01:09:28,559
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1369
01:09:28,600 --> 01:09:30,400
Speaker 6: I mean, I'm excited to see what happens with all

1370
01:09:30,400 --> 01:09:33,840
Speaker 6: of our characters over the course of this season, because

1371
01:09:33,840 --> 01:09:36,640
Speaker 6: the five year jump meant that all the reservations that

1372
01:09:36,680 --> 01:09:39,040
Speaker 6: we had playing high school kids are out the window,

1373
01:09:39,640 --> 01:09:44,559
Speaker 6: and now we can play messy young adults, and yeah,

1374
01:09:44,600 --> 01:09:45,559
Speaker 6: we do get messy.

1375
01:09:45,920 --> 01:09:48,519
Speaker 1: God, I love mess you do get a little messy.

1376
01:09:48,600 --> 01:09:52,439
Speaker 1: I remember some messy episodes. Yeah, and all the new

1377
01:09:52,520 --> 01:09:54,439
Speaker 1: I mean, just the new people coming in. I just

1378
01:09:54,479 --> 01:09:57,439
Speaker 1: remember that being that start of season five was really

1379
01:09:57,520 --> 01:10:03,160
Speaker 1: fun because there were faces, yeah, you know, and everyone

1380
01:10:03,200 --> 01:10:04,320
Speaker 1: was so nice.

1381
01:10:04,479 --> 01:10:06,400
Speaker 6: Do you see how cute that dude that Sofia was

1382
01:10:06,439 --> 01:10:08,519
Speaker 6: acting one of the Nicks, the guy that was in

1383
01:10:08,520 --> 01:10:08,880
Speaker 6: the limo.

1384
01:10:09,160 --> 01:10:11,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I will say I do remember shooting that

1385
01:10:12,120 --> 01:10:13,639
Speaker 1: Sofia that period.

1386
01:10:14,360 --> 01:10:17,200
Speaker 6: I was like, you're like, hello, Massa. There was definitely

1387
01:10:17,200 --> 01:10:19,320
Speaker 6: one of us because anytime like someone new came in,

1388
01:10:19,360 --> 01:10:20,840
Speaker 6: we're all like, hey, hey, hey, do you want to

1389
01:10:20,880 --> 01:10:21,840
Speaker 6: be a friend. Do you want to hang out with

1390
01:10:21,840 --> 01:10:23,000
Speaker 6: our group? Do you want to go to to Lex?

1391
01:10:23,400 --> 01:10:24,080
Speaker 6: What do you want to do?

1392
01:10:25,200 --> 01:10:27,960
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, Well the scene Hillary, do you remember?

1393
01:10:28,080 --> 01:10:30,280
Speaker 1: And Sophia? I think you and I definitely were there

1394
01:10:30,280 --> 01:10:34,840
Speaker 1: at some point. But the scene where Nathan has his accident.

1395
01:10:34,720 --> 01:10:38,000
Speaker 6: Pravda was that what it was called Prasta?

1396
01:10:38,520 --> 01:10:39,800
Speaker 1: Remember the vodka bar?

1397
01:10:40,240 --> 01:10:41,160
Speaker 2: Yes, Pravda?

1398
01:10:41,760 --> 01:10:45,400
Speaker 1: Yes, So that was a real place in Wilmington. They

1399
01:10:45,439 --> 01:10:48,240
Speaker 1: didn't redress that, ye, And I remember all those red

1400
01:10:48,439 --> 01:10:51,200
Speaker 1: lights and like that wasn't a new hip spot for

1401
01:10:51,200 --> 01:10:51,880
Speaker 1: a little while.

1402
01:10:52,040 --> 01:10:53,480
Speaker 6: It was Pravda and Odessa.

1403
01:10:54,240 --> 01:10:56,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, my friend Steph used to bartend there, Stephanie the

1404
01:10:56,920 --> 01:11:00,560
Speaker 2: party Panther. Yeah, so like we'd go there, and I

1405
01:11:01,120 --> 01:11:05,639
Speaker 2: think I almost feel like I might have been out

1406
01:11:05,680 --> 01:11:08,120
Speaker 2: that night and been like, ohh, what do you guys

1407
01:11:08,160 --> 01:11:12,120
Speaker 2: doing here? I'm like on a walkie, Like, I guess

1408
01:11:12,120 --> 01:11:14,719
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna go see Stephanie tonight, see you later.

1409
01:11:15,479 --> 01:11:16,400
Speaker 6: I love it. It's fun.

1410
01:11:16,600 --> 01:11:18,800
Speaker 1: We you know, Yeah, we were in our twenties. It

1411
01:11:18,840 --> 01:11:20,840
Speaker 1: was I'm just glad I had. I didn't have any

1412
01:11:20,840 --> 01:11:23,040
Speaker 1: friends when I moved to Wilmington because I moved there

1413
01:11:23,080 --> 01:11:23,599
Speaker 1: for the job.

1414
01:11:23,760 --> 01:11:25,439
Speaker 6: But you made friends so fast.

1415
01:11:25,600 --> 01:11:28,000
Speaker 1: Well, I mean we you know, we work together.

1416
01:11:28,120 --> 01:11:31,640
Speaker 6: Yeah. We have all placed our vote on how we

1417
01:11:31,640 --> 01:11:35,560
Speaker 6: felt about James Lafferty's long hair and beard in this episode.

1418
01:11:36,560 --> 01:11:38,240
Speaker 6: What what were your feelings on it?

1419
01:11:39,000 --> 01:11:43,559
Speaker 1: Well, I have written down in my notes beard comma

1420
01:11:43,800 --> 01:11:51,200
Speaker 1: took forever to put on. I don't mind the long hair.

1421
01:11:51,439 --> 01:11:54,479
Speaker 1: I just have like really a visceral reaction to the

1422
01:11:54,479 --> 01:11:56,599
Speaker 1: beard because I know how long it took to put

1423
01:11:56,640 --> 01:11:58,320
Speaker 1: on the trailer.

1424
01:11:58,840 --> 01:12:01,639
Speaker 2: Well, I have a visceral reaction to it now because

1425
01:12:01,720 --> 01:12:04,679
Speaker 2: James came on the podcast and told us they cut

1426
01:12:04,720 --> 01:12:08,439
Speaker 2: his hair and then use the cuttings from his hair

1427
01:12:08,680 --> 01:12:11,639
Speaker 2: and glue them to his face. Yes, to make the beard.

1428
01:12:11,920 --> 01:12:13,040
Speaker 1: Yes, they did Sofia.

1429
01:12:13,240 --> 01:12:15,439
Speaker 2: No, Like when I look at when he first came

1430
01:12:15,520 --> 01:12:17,640
Speaker 2: on camera, I was like, nope, because I feel like

1431
01:12:17,680 --> 01:12:19,760
Speaker 2: he just stuck his face in a bowl of his

1432
01:12:19,800 --> 01:12:22,400
Speaker 2: own hair. It's like it's a visual I can't I

1433
01:12:22,479 --> 01:12:24,680
Speaker 2: can't get rid of it. And what a trooper he

1434
01:12:24,840 --> 01:12:27,200
Speaker 2: is that he did a whole episode with that glued

1435
01:12:27,600 --> 01:12:28,960
Speaker 2: multiple face.

1436
01:12:29,520 --> 01:12:32,519
Speaker 1: Yeah. Ooof No, I was there in the hair and

1437
01:12:32,560 --> 01:12:36,240
Speaker 1: makeup trailer and it was like a handful like no,

1438
01:12:37,720 --> 01:12:41,760
Speaker 1: and it was like no, yeah, I mean it was

1439
01:12:41,920 --> 01:12:46,680
Speaker 1: so bizarre, But you know, I just chock it up

1440
01:12:46,720 --> 01:12:47,960
Speaker 1: to a learning experience.

1441
01:12:48,680 --> 01:12:50,599
Speaker 2: I got to pull my shoulders out of my ears.

1442
01:12:50,720 --> 01:12:53,400
Speaker 1: Yeah. When Chad and Lindsay are hugging at the end

1443
01:12:53,479 --> 01:13:00,960
Speaker 1: and you see Chad's tattoo, oh, Lucas's tattoo, Yeah, I

1444
01:13:01,120 --> 01:13:03,960
Speaker 1: just I remember that they got pretty fast with that,

1445
01:13:04,240 --> 01:13:05,439
Speaker 1: but like that was painted on.

1446
01:13:06,120 --> 01:13:08,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, and that was always tricky because they were

1447
01:13:08,920 --> 01:13:13,479
Speaker 2: covering his real tattoo. So it wasn't just like fake

1448
01:13:13,600 --> 01:13:16,840
Speaker 2: tattoo going on clean skin, like right, you have to

1449
01:13:16,880 --> 01:13:19,720
Speaker 2: put the fake tattoo over the scar from the other

1450
01:13:19,960 --> 01:13:22,960
Speaker 2: Like that's a that's not easy for anybody. I remember

1451
01:13:22,960 --> 01:13:24,600
Speaker 2: what a pain in the ass that always was.

1452
01:13:25,200 --> 01:13:28,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, you know, it was always We just

1453
01:13:28,280 --> 01:13:31,120
Speaker 1: built it into the schedule and that's part of being

1454
01:13:31,200 --> 01:13:34,280
Speaker 1: in the ad department. You have to account for all

1455
01:13:34,320 --> 01:13:37,280
Speaker 1: that stuff and you know, just get everybody to set

1456
01:13:37,320 --> 01:13:37,840
Speaker 1: on time.

1457
01:13:37,960 --> 01:13:43,000
Speaker 6: And well, we all loved working with Jackson because it

1458
01:13:43,040 --> 01:13:45,960
Speaker 6: meant that our days were significantly shorter, Like that was

1459
01:13:46,040 --> 01:13:48,960
Speaker 6: literally the one thing that you couldn't push is how

1460
01:13:49,000 --> 01:13:51,880
Speaker 6: long the child worked. And so kid days were great

1461
01:13:51,960 --> 01:13:54,479
Speaker 6: days because they had to be contained. And I love

1462
01:13:54,560 --> 01:13:59,599
Speaker 6: how Chad was with Jackson in these scenes. It's fun

1463
01:13:59,640 --> 01:14:02,240
Speaker 6: to see him be Uncle Keith and to be able

1464
01:14:02,240 --> 01:14:04,479
Speaker 6: to imagine what that relationship looked like.

1465
01:14:06,000 --> 01:14:08,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was good. You all were all. I mean,

1466
01:14:08,360 --> 01:14:12,120
Speaker 1: I feel like everyone Jackson was a sweet, sweet kid,

1467
01:14:13,320 --> 01:14:16,040
Speaker 1: and you all were all good with him. And there's

1468
01:14:16,080 --> 01:14:19,600
Speaker 1: a there's a line though that I had, like it

1469
01:14:19,840 --> 01:14:24,760
Speaker 1: totally triggered something when he says, shoe money, Daddy, are

1470
01:14:24,880 --> 01:14:25,920
Speaker 1: money from a shoe?

1471
01:14:26,320 --> 01:14:26,960
Speaker 6: Oh?

1472
01:14:27,240 --> 01:14:30,559
Speaker 1: In this episode, and all of a sudden, I was

1473
01:14:30,760 --> 01:14:33,599
Speaker 1: right back there because I was hiding around the corner

1474
01:14:34,320 --> 01:14:38,880
Speaker 1: feeding him that line money from a shoe, and I

1475
01:14:38,920 --> 01:14:41,280
Speaker 1: and like, I love kids, and you know, I just

1476
01:14:41,320 --> 01:14:43,720
Speaker 1: remember I loved having kids on set because you know,

1477
01:14:43,760 --> 01:14:45,400
Speaker 1: for the first four years, we didn't have a lot

1478
01:14:45,439 --> 01:14:48,040
Speaker 1: of kids on set. And you know, I think I

1479
01:14:48,080 --> 01:14:51,680
Speaker 1: even I might have babysat for Moira, but I you know,

1480
01:14:51,720 --> 01:14:56,479
Speaker 1: I babysat for a lot of the crew. Oh yeah, yeah, well.

1481
01:14:56,320 --> 01:14:57,960
Speaker 6: We would go to didn't you dress up as a

1482
01:14:58,000 --> 01:15:01,000
Speaker 6: Disney princess for like one of Jade's kids birthdays or something?

1483
01:15:01,120 --> 01:15:03,720
Speaker 1: I might have Yeah, yeah, I mean, I just love

1484
01:15:03,880 --> 01:15:08,960
Speaker 1: I love kids. I'm the oldest of four, and I

1485
01:15:09,040 --> 01:15:12,000
Speaker 1: just loved having a youngster on set. So I'm hiding

1486
01:15:12,000 --> 01:15:15,600
Speaker 1: around the corner and I remember saying money from a shoe,

1487
01:15:16,040 --> 01:15:20,719
Speaker 1: Money from a shoe, money from a shoe, and like

1488
01:15:20,720 --> 01:15:22,840
Speaker 1: like so as soon as I heard that line, I

1489
01:15:22,880 --> 01:15:25,840
Speaker 1: was like, oh my gosh, it just took me back.

1490
01:15:26,520 --> 01:15:27,960
Speaker 6: That's so set. I love it.

1491
01:15:36,320 --> 01:15:36,880
Speaker 2: Lassiter.

1492
01:15:37,240 --> 01:15:38,840
Speaker 6: All right, well, here's what I want to have happened.

1493
01:15:38,840 --> 01:15:41,040
Speaker 6: I want our kids to grow up and graduate high school.

1494
01:15:41,040 --> 01:15:43,439
Speaker 6: And then I want you to come direct and I

1495
01:15:43,520 --> 01:15:47,120
Speaker 6: want you to like flex that muscle because you are

1496
01:15:47,200 --> 01:15:50,320
Speaker 6: so incredibly good at your job and you were such

1497
01:15:50,360 --> 01:15:54,759
Speaker 6: an asset to our crew and not just for our department.

1498
01:15:54,800 --> 01:15:57,000
Speaker 6: But I know that the grips and electrics loved you.

1499
01:15:57,080 --> 01:15:59,240
Speaker 6: We know that like wardrobe loved you. We know that

1500
01:15:59,280 --> 01:16:03,120
Speaker 6: all the departments responded to you because you never bullied anyone.

1501
01:16:03,400 --> 01:16:06,559
Speaker 6: You operated out of kindness and it's set a tone

1502
01:16:07,240 --> 01:16:11,200
Speaker 6: that was really important within that department specifically.

1503
01:16:12,160 --> 01:16:15,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, you was you know, it was all all male department.

1504
01:16:16,439 --> 01:16:18,840
Speaker 1: It was you know, it got it got competitive too.

1505
01:16:18,920 --> 01:16:22,439
Speaker 1: I mean I you know, I wanted to be be

1506
01:16:22,840 --> 01:16:25,439
Speaker 1: well liked and do you know, do my job well?

1507
01:16:25,520 --> 01:16:28,720
Speaker 1: And yeah, you got to have a good you got

1508
01:16:28,720 --> 01:16:32,240
Speaker 1: to have a strong work ethic there. I won't say

1509
01:16:32,280 --> 01:16:34,639
Speaker 1: you have to have, you know, a really strong backbone.

1510
01:16:34,680 --> 01:16:37,800
Speaker 1: I feel like I did back then, but nowadays I don't.

1511
01:16:37,840 --> 01:16:41,000
Speaker 1: I hope that people don't have to be I don't

1512
01:16:41,040 --> 01:16:43,599
Speaker 1: have to have that anymore, do you know what I mean?

1513
01:16:44,000 --> 01:16:44,320
Speaker 6: Yeah?

1514
01:16:44,360 --> 01:16:48,200
Speaker 2: Well, I think what's really refreshing and what changes culture

1515
01:16:48,320 --> 01:16:50,840
Speaker 2: is when someone like you is in a department like

1516
01:16:50,880 --> 01:16:56,320
Speaker 2: that and it's gone from a department that could, you know,

1517
01:16:57,120 --> 01:17:01,240
Speaker 2: have some serious bully energy to a department that is

1518
01:17:01,280 --> 01:17:07,120
Speaker 2: being shifted by a woman and being given a new

1519
01:17:07,160 --> 01:17:09,800
Speaker 2: way to operate. And you know, Hillary said it, the

1520
01:17:09,920 --> 01:17:13,320
Speaker 2: reason every department tried to poach you was because you

1521
01:17:13,439 --> 01:17:16,720
Speaker 2: made people better and you also were kind while you

1522
01:17:16,760 --> 01:17:20,679
Speaker 2: did it. And when you are in an environment where

1523
01:17:20,720 --> 01:17:29,040
Speaker 2: you have complex uses of power happening dynamics, it can

1524
01:17:29,080 --> 01:17:32,280
Speaker 2: be really gorgeous to have somebody offer you a new way.

1525
01:17:33,040 --> 01:17:36,280
Speaker 2: And you know they say that the fish rots from

1526
01:17:36,320 --> 01:17:38,880
Speaker 2: the head, right, like if the head of the if

1527
01:17:38,880 --> 01:17:41,719
Speaker 2: the head of the thing is bad, it trickles down. Well,

1528
01:17:42,080 --> 01:17:44,479
Speaker 2: it's the reason we want women like you and friends

1529
01:17:44,600 --> 01:17:47,280
Speaker 2: like you to come and direct on projects because you

1530
01:17:47,280 --> 01:17:50,720
Speaker 2: get to set the tone for every department. And like,

1531
01:17:50,880 --> 01:17:52,760
Speaker 2: I'll sign up for the last show. You don't even

1532
01:17:52,840 --> 01:17:54,360
Speaker 2: have to descript it. I'm ready to go.

1533
01:17:54,520 --> 01:17:56,519
Speaker 6: Yeah, we're just all gonna wear ponytails. It's going to

1534
01:17:56,560 --> 01:17:58,479
Speaker 6: be really short in the morning. Yeah.

1535
01:17:59,000 --> 01:18:03,320
Speaker 1: Actually, well, let me finish this, finish this campaign and

1536
01:18:03,360 --> 01:18:05,800
Speaker 1: then Hill I'm telling you I'm writing a Hallmark movie.

1537
01:18:05,840 --> 01:18:09,400
Speaker 6: I swear, I mean coirl. Let's just do some nice things.

1538
01:18:09,760 --> 01:18:11,479
Speaker 6: Just kissing and crying is all.

1539
01:18:11,680 --> 01:18:14,679
Speaker 1: No, No, let's just let's keep it at kissing and crying.

1540
01:18:14,960 --> 01:18:18,519
Speaker 6: Yeah, great, gentle, we love gentle. Are we ready to

1541
01:18:18,560 --> 01:18:21,200
Speaker 6: spin a wheel? Is that where we're at in our

1542
01:18:21,280 --> 01:18:23,040
Speaker 6: in our day?

1543
01:18:23,439 --> 01:18:24,120
Speaker 2: I think we are.

1544
01:18:24,479 --> 01:18:27,679
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think we spin a wheel. Did you uh?

1545
01:18:27,720 --> 01:18:30,400
Speaker 6: Did you participate in superlatives when you were in high school?

1546
01:18:30,800 --> 01:18:32,880
Speaker 6: Of course? What did you win? What are you?

1547
01:18:34,080 --> 01:18:36,639
Speaker 1: Hillary? I feel like you will get a really big

1548
01:18:36,720 --> 01:18:39,360
Speaker 1: kick out of this. I went to an all girls

1549
01:18:39,439 --> 01:18:43,720
Speaker 1: high school. Me too, Yes, I know, Yes, Sophie, I

1550
01:18:43,760 --> 01:18:47,000
Speaker 1: did know that about you. I won the first annual

1551
01:18:47,160 --> 01:18:55,080
Speaker 1: b mc Award, which is big Man on Campus. I was.

1552
01:18:55,280 --> 01:18:57,240
Speaker 1: I knew, I knew you would like that.

1553
01:18:57,640 --> 01:19:03,719
Speaker 6: Is that big dick energy big we call it Brooke

1554
01:19:03,840 --> 01:19:04,679
Speaker 6: Davis energy.

1555
01:19:05,479 --> 01:19:06,479
Speaker 2: We do well.

1556
01:19:06,560 --> 01:19:08,440
Speaker 1: I was. I was very athletic.

1557
01:19:08,920 --> 01:19:10,920
Speaker 6: I love that.

1558
01:19:11,360 --> 01:19:12,559
Speaker 2: Incredible.

1559
01:19:13,080 --> 01:19:19,320
Speaker 1: So I was a jock for sure, incredible lassiter, a

1560
01:19:19,400 --> 01:19:20,360
Speaker 1: man on campus.

1561
01:19:20,400 --> 01:19:23,360
Speaker 6: Girls, Well then you, I'm gonna leave this up to you.

1562
01:19:23,439 --> 01:19:27,880
Speaker 6: Are most likely too. This week is most likely to

1563
01:19:28,240 --> 01:19:31,479
Speaker 6: bungee jump. You have to pick a real life person

1564
01:19:31,920 --> 01:19:35,800
Speaker 6: and then a character from the show. Ooh, so one

1565
01:19:35,800 --> 01:19:39,439
Speaker 6: of our real life one Tree Hillers. It is not me.

1566
01:19:39,560 --> 01:19:41,760
Speaker 6: I don't do dumb. I mean, I don't take risks.

1567
01:19:42,479 --> 01:19:43,680
Speaker 6: That is not for me.

1568
01:19:46,320 --> 01:19:53,479
Speaker 1: Wow, okay, I'll say character. I feel like Rachel Danielle's character.

1569
01:19:53,600 --> 01:19:55,679
Speaker 2: I was gonna say it too.

1570
01:19:55,439 --> 01:19:58,400
Speaker 1: And I forget it's funny. I forget the character's names too.

1571
01:19:58,479 --> 01:20:00,960
Speaker 1: I just know her as daniel you get it to Rachel.

1572
01:20:01,400 --> 01:20:04,000
Speaker 1: So Rachel would be my character that would most likely

1573
01:20:04,160 --> 01:20:09,280
Speaker 1: to bungee jump. Real person to most likely bungee jump,

1574
01:20:09,600 --> 01:20:12,040
Speaker 1: by the way, you know everybody, you can pick somebody

1575
01:20:12,080 --> 01:20:16,559
Speaker 1: from the cast or the crew. Oh yeah, I don't know.

1576
01:20:16,680 --> 01:20:21,519
Speaker 1: I mean part of me. I almost spit out. Alex Alex.

1577
01:20:22,360 --> 01:20:24,479
Speaker 6: Yeah, we have to get Alex on the show at

1578
01:20:24,479 --> 01:20:27,320
Speaker 6: some voids. So Alex is the total opposite of Lassiter,

1579
01:20:27,439 --> 01:20:29,320
Speaker 6: but they had the same job. And so he was

1580
01:20:29,360 --> 01:20:33,880
Speaker 6: like a bearded, very disgruntled man who was so irritated

1581
01:20:33,920 --> 01:20:36,320
Speaker 6: anytime we asked for coffee or anything. And he's also

1582
01:20:36,400 --> 01:20:38,479
Speaker 6: our age and so he was like it was like

1583
01:20:38,520 --> 01:20:39,040
Speaker 6: a brother.

1584
01:20:39,360 --> 01:20:39,559
Speaker 4: Young.

1585
01:20:40,320 --> 01:20:41,960
Speaker 6: He's a little many, a little bit, but he it

1586
01:20:42,000 --> 01:20:43,720
Speaker 6: was like having a brother that was just like, you

1587
01:20:43,760 --> 01:20:45,880
Speaker 6: guys are ridiculous all the time.

1588
01:20:46,720 --> 01:20:52,559
Speaker 1: Stop it one of y'all, one of y'all, one of y'all. Yeah,

1589
01:20:52,560 --> 01:20:55,000
Speaker 1: I feel like Danil would do it, but Rachel would.

1590
01:20:55,400 --> 01:20:56,680
Speaker 1: Sophia would you maybe do it?

1591
01:20:56,840 --> 01:20:57,519
Speaker 6: She's done it.

1592
01:20:58,200 --> 01:21:01,240
Speaker 1: Oh, I have it. I'm just gonna here's the thing.

1593
01:21:02,160 --> 01:21:04,600
Speaker 2: I take risks, but also I don't want to do

1594
01:21:04,760 --> 01:21:08,320
Speaker 2: dumb risks, and bungee jumping to me, looks like a

1595
01:21:08,320 --> 01:21:13,240
Speaker 2: great way to break your neck. I skydive, which I

1596
01:21:13,320 --> 01:21:17,960
Speaker 2: know is perhaps more dangerous, but like, it's the whiplash

1597
01:21:18,040 --> 01:21:20,920
Speaker 2: for me that makes me say no to bungee jumping.

1598
01:21:20,960 --> 01:21:24,720
Speaker 2: So I don't know if they're adjacent enough. Fine, but

1599
01:21:24,960 --> 01:21:25,439
Speaker 2: I don't.

1600
01:21:25,240 --> 01:21:28,440
Speaker 1: Know bungee adjacent, bungee adjacent.

1601
01:21:28,520 --> 01:21:30,559
Speaker 6: I don't trust that. I'm not gonna whip back up

1602
01:21:30,600 --> 01:21:32,120
Speaker 6: and hit the bottom of the bridge, you know what

1603
01:21:32,160 --> 01:21:34,360
Speaker 6: I mean. Like I've never been I don't understand the

1604
01:21:34,360 --> 01:21:35,120
Speaker 6: physics of it.

1605
01:21:35,320 --> 01:21:38,479
Speaker 1: Maybe one of the boys, maybe maybe James, he's like

1606
01:21:38,600 --> 01:21:39,200
Speaker 1: in shape.

1607
01:21:40,200 --> 01:21:44,040
Speaker 6: Yeah, no, it's Austin. It's Austin Nichols. That's who it is.

1608
01:21:44,479 --> 01:21:47,759
Speaker 2: You're right, You're right, one hundred percent.

1609
01:21:48,080 --> 01:21:50,919
Speaker 1: It's gotta be somebody like in shape and active.

1610
01:21:51,240 --> 01:21:54,679
Speaker 6: It just occurred to me, he'd like Austin is also

1611
01:21:54,720 --> 01:21:57,599
Speaker 6: doing all sorts of weird, like water skin and driving

1612
01:21:57,600 --> 01:21:58,280
Speaker 6: around in a van.

1613
01:21:58,560 --> 01:22:01,920
Speaker 1: Water scanning is so weird to me.

1614
01:22:02,520 --> 01:22:04,160
Speaker 6: I don't do water No.

1615
01:22:04,479 --> 01:22:07,479
Speaker 2: He loves all that sports stuff. And he's also you're right, like,

1616
01:22:07,520 --> 01:22:09,320
Speaker 2: I get where you're going with it. Last, Or is

1617
01:22:09,360 --> 01:22:12,160
Speaker 2: that you need a guy who's like fit enough that

1618
01:22:12,240 --> 01:22:16,120
Speaker 2: he thinks he's invincible. Yes, you know, Austin's the kind

1619
01:22:16,120 --> 01:22:18,559
Speaker 2: of person who's just like, we can do it. It'll

1620
01:22:18,600 --> 01:22:20,280
Speaker 2: be fine. It would be him.

1621
01:22:20,680 --> 01:22:21,479
Speaker 6: Yeah, all right.

1622
01:22:22,080 --> 01:22:26,920
Speaker 1: As by the way, maybe I missed it in other episodes.

1623
01:22:26,960 --> 01:22:29,679
Speaker 1: I thought it was really funny. I've never thought about

1624
01:22:30,040 --> 01:22:33,759
Speaker 1: so junk Yes, dunk on the show.

1625
01:22:33,880 --> 01:22:34,160
Speaker 6: Colin.

1626
01:22:35,040 --> 01:22:39,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, Colin, who's crushing it the nicest person. Yes, this

1627
01:22:39,720 --> 01:22:42,240
Speaker 1: episode was the first time I had ever heard anyone

1628
01:22:42,280 --> 01:22:43,920
Speaker 1: call him junkie.

1629
01:22:44,160 --> 01:22:47,600
Speaker 6: W Yeah, who called him junkie?

1630
01:22:47,880 --> 01:22:51,680
Speaker 1: I think it might have been it was like uncle Junkie,

1631
01:22:52,200 --> 01:22:55,880
Speaker 1: oh playing the video games, and I was like, should

1632
01:22:55,880 --> 01:22:57,320
Speaker 1: we call him junkie junk?

1633
01:22:58,200 --> 01:23:00,240
Speaker 6: I mean that would explain why he was like a

1634
01:23:00,280 --> 01:23:02,920
Speaker 6: twenty five year old senior in high school.

1635
01:23:03,560 --> 01:23:04,920
Speaker 1: I mean he was a junkie.

1636
01:23:05,280 --> 01:23:07,920
Speaker 6: Oh my god, you know what I think. Yes, he

1637
01:23:08,080 --> 01:23:12,080
Speaker 6: and Vaughn having dialogue, you know, like Vaughn hasn't gotten

1638
01:23:12,120 --> 01:23:13,800
Speaker 6: to talk a whole lot in the show. And Vonn

1639
01:23:13,920 --> 01:23:19,280
Speaker 6: is hilarious, hilarious, good, honorable mention, so funny.

1640
01:23:19,560 --> 01:23:25,640
Speaker 2: I love those rivercourt Boys and honestly like for me, Mikayla, Yeah,

1641
01:23:25,720 --> 01:23:29,719
Speaker 2: talk about coming in like a powerhouse. She has such

1642
01:23:29,800 --> 01:23:33,719
Speaker 2: good energy, she's so in her body. You who after

1643
01:23:33,840 --> 01:23:38,200
Speaker 2: four years do the fans think is going to compete

1644
01:23:38,360 --> 01:23:43,439
Speaker 2: for Lucas's attention aside from Peyton, Like, literally, who but you? Hillary?

1645
01:23:43,640 --> 01:23:47,000
Speaker 2: And Mikayla came in and was just like me mine.

1646
01:23:47,479 --> 01:23:50,760
Speaker 2: I loved it. I loved it. She's such a ge.

1647
01:23:50,600 --> 01:23:54,639
Speaker 1: So kind like she's just like she's such a kind person.

1648
01:23:55,080 --> 01:23:57,960
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I loved I loved working with her.

1649
01:23:58,760 --> 01:24:00,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, she was really sweet.

1650
01:24:00,840 --> 01:24:03,360
Speaker 6: You guys all right, Lassiter, we've got big plans for

1651
01:24:03,400 --> 01:24:04,760
Speaker 6: your future, but.

1652
01:24:04,840 --> 01:24:08,160
Speaker 1: For us well and Hillary, if I have to apologize

1653
01:24:08,200 --> 01:24:10,840
Speaker 1: for texting you from that bachelorette party.

1654
01:24:10,680 --> 01:24:15,000
Speaker 6: Oh my god, we're still on drunk text level, which

1655
01:24:15,080 --> 01:24:17,840
Speaker 6: is like, you know what, that's my favorite line of

1656
01:24:17,880 --> 01:24:20,360
Speaker 6: Peyton's in this episode. I want real friends. And so

1657
01:24:20,400 --> 01:24:22,559
Speaker 6: it feels really good to have you here, Lassiter, because

1658
01:24:22,600 --> 01:24:24,760
Speaker 6: it gets we get to go back to that place

1659
01:24:24,800 --> 01:24:30,080
Speaker 6: where like are off off camera, off work friendships really

1660
01:24:30,880 --> 01:24:34,320
Speaker 6: were the things keeping us going, and so I love

1661
01:24:34,400 --> 01:24:36,720
Speaker 6: the fact that you still drunk text me at a

1662
01:24:36,720 --> 01:24:38,040
Speaker 6: bachelorette party or the.

1663
01:24:38,040 --> 01:24:42,800
Speaker 1: Record, I wasn't that drunk. It was my dault, my

1664
01:24:42,840 --> 01:24:45,679
Speaker 1: little sister Anna, bachelorette girl.

1665
01:24:45,760 --> 01:24:48,479
Speaker 6: I'm there. I'm mad I wasn't invited on that party.

1666
01:24:48,520 --> 01:24:52,200
Speaker 1: Buzz her friends are your key demographic for One Tree

1667
01:24:52,240 --> 01:24:54,479
Speaker 1: Hill during the age or like twenty nine.

1668
01:24:54,600 --> 01:24:55,120
Speaker 6: I love it.

1669
01:24:55,520 --> 01:24:57,120
Speaker 1: I was trying to be a cool older sister.

1670
01:24:57,280 --> 01:24:59,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'm like, why why why were you just

1671
01:24:59,800 --> 01:25:03,240
Speaker 2: fa He's timing everybody, babe, really let it really get

1672
01:25:03,280 --> 01:25:03,880
Speaker 2: in it to win it.

1673
01:25:04,920 --> 01:25:08,639
Speaker 1: Well I know. Yeah. An Crenshaw is your biggest fan.

1674
01:25:08,800 --> 01:25:10,680
Speaker 1: She was one of the bridesmaids and she was like,

1675
01:25:10,800 --> 01:25:12,280
Speaker 1: what is Hillary doing right now?

1676
01:25:12,439 --> 01:25:14,519
Speaker 6: Right now, right now?

1677
01:25:15,160 --> 01:25:16,840
Speaker 1: But I'm gonna call her.

1678
01:25:18,479 --> 01:25:19,200
Speaker 2: Incredible.

1679
01:25:19,560 --> 01:25:21,840
Speaker 6: Oh you guys, I love you. Okay for you guys

1680
01:25:21,840 --> 01:25:24,360
Speaker 6: at home. Next week we have season five, episode two,

1681
01:25:24,479 --> 01:25:27,920
Speaker 6: racing like a pro. It's about to get crazy, all right,

1682
01:25:28,040 --> 01:25:29,280
Speaker 6: here we go, great week.

1683
01:25:29,320 --> 01:25:31,320
Speaker 5: I love you last night, Hey, thanks for listening.

1684
01:25:31,439 --> 01:25:33,599
Speaker 2: Don't forget to leave us a review. You can also

1685
01:25:33,720 --> 01:25:36,759
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1686
01:25:36,840 --> 01:25:41,479
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1687
01:25:41,800 --> 01:25:46,400
Speaker 6: See you next time we all about that high school drama.

1688
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