WEBVTT - Bachelor Beginnings with Andrew Firestone and Ben Higgins 0:00:01.000 --> 0:00:06.000 This is the most dramatic podcast ever and iHeartRadio podcast. 0:00:07.200 --> 0:00:12.360 Chris Harrison still here at the Rosewood, Montecito. Again, as 0:00:12.400 --> 0:00:15.400 I said before, that's what bougie people call Santa Barbara. 0:00:16.160 --> 0:00:21.520 And I am so excited about this particular episode because 0:00:21.760 --> 0:00:25.280 two guys I love and adore, and I loved him 0:00:25.280 --> 0:00:27.920 so much that I actually wanted to put these guys together, 0:00:28.240 --> 0:00:31.120 and we did. We all went and played golf years ago. 0:00:31.200 --> 0:00:32.920 I think it was a Jaden Tanner's wedding, and I said, 0:00:32.920 --> 0:00:35.040 you have to meet this guy. Y'all are going to 0:00:35.080 --> 0:00:38.000 be fast friends. And now we're all here together. I'm 0:00:38.000 --> 0:00:41.600 here with two former bachelors. Maybe both would be on 0:00:41.640 --> 0:00:44.520 the Mount Rushmore of bachelor's I really think that's true. 0:00:44.560 --> 0:00:49.400 Andrew Firestone and Ben Higgins. I think easily on the 0:00:49.680 --> 0:00:50.760 on the Mount Rushmore. 0:00:50.880 --> 0:00:53.760 I tell people that about Andrew's just so sweet. 0:00:54.000 --> 0:00:56.080 Yeah, he's handsome. In fact, on the way here, you 0:00:56.120 --> 0:00:58.320 want to hear a good story. Yes, Ashley and I 0:00:58.360 --> 0:01:01.240 are driving here actually acknety Okay, it's a great story. 0:01:01.280 --> 0:01:04.760 And so we're driving from LA to Santa Barbara and 0:01:04.800 --> 0:01:10.240 her Hyundai Tucson and Ashley goes, I've never met Andrew, 0:01:10.760 --> 0:01:13.720 and I said, you've never met Andrew? How has that happened? 0:01:13.760 --> 0:01:15.520 But she just hasn't been around for all the times 0:01:15.520 --> 0:01:16.320 that we've gotten to hang out. 0:01:16.360 --> 0:01:18.920 Who's Evince? She goes, who, Like, what's Andrew? Like? I 0:01:18.920 --> 0:01:21.760 was like, he's Bob Guinny, funny. 0:01:22.680 --> 0:01:25.640 Chris Harrison handsome and he and she goes, Okay, no, 0:01:25.720 --> 0:01:28.200 she stops me shoes that makes sense, Like Bob, you 0:01:28.200 --> 0:01:30.120 wouldn't say he's the most handsome man in the world. 0:01:31.959 --> 0:01:34.440 She goes, So, I don't see Andrew being funny because 0:01:34.480 --> 0:01:35.400 he's so handsome. 0:01:35.440 --> 0:01:36.839 I said, here's the problem. 0:01:36.840 --> 0:01:39.119 You're gonna fall in love with Andrew, like you're gonna 0:01:39.160 --> 0:01:41.040 do all the girls do like they meet him and 0:01:41.080 --> 0:01:44.720 afterwards they all giggle. They're like, yeah, it's just kind 0:01:44.760 --> 0:01:45.800 of because I'm talking about me. 0:01:45.840 --> 0:01:49.360 By the way, Bob Guinny, who listens to the show 0:01:49.760 --> 0:01:54.600 almost famous, big bone, you have a great personality. You 0:01:54.720 --> 0:01:58.360 have a great personality, and we love you. And speaking 0:01:58.360 --> 0:02:02.120 of love more, and Andrew his beautiful wife Evanna sitting 0:02:02.160 --> 0:02:05.000 right here, and so I think all of you for 0:02:05.040 --> 0:02:07.600 being here, and most importantly, you guys brought me at tequila. 0:02:07.680 --> 0:02:09.960 We did which I am grateful for and old. 0:02:10.000 --> 0:02:12.240 There's there's not many places you can spend twenty five 0:02:12.320 --> 0:02:14.720 dollars on a tequila drink, but this is one of. 0:02:14.639 --> 0:02:15.800 The roads put it on you. 0:02:15.919 --> 0:02:16.959 I just had a. 0:02:16.760 --> 0:02:20.200 Thirty four dollars martini. Yeah, yeah, it was impressive. 0:02:20.200 --> 0:02:21.440 It served it in a home depot. 0:02:21.480 --> 0:02:24.720 But he did marry up though. I want to say 0:02:24.720 --> 0:02:27.400 that you did marry up. Yeah, very it's impressive. 0:02:27.480 --> 0:02:29.440 I remember when I first met Evana. I was at 0:02:30.160 --> 0:02:32.440 a guy named Jason Carbones house that we had a party. 0:02:32.720 --> 0:02:34.440 Jason used to work on the show, kind of producer. 0:02:34.480 --> 0:02:36.399 He directed from a hot moment and we were there. 0:02:36.440 --> 0:02:39.120 Do you remember that? It was right after was it 0:02:39.160 --> 0:02:41.240 Tristan Ryan season? I don't know, I forget what it was, 0:02:41.280 --> 0:02:44.360 but you would you it was fairly reason You've broken 0:02:44.440 --> 0:02:47.760 up with Jen and you walked in with Evana and 0:02:47.800 --> 0:02:51.000 everybody thought the same thing, like what is happening here? 0:02:51.440 --> 0:02:53.800 Like what what's happening? So one of the ironic things. 0:02:53.800 --> 0:02:55.799 I don't think people know this. She just bad cataracts, 0:02:57.880 --> 0:02:59.320 so people don't know this. 0:02:59.360 --> 0:03:03.240 But but I actually met Havanna through the Bachelor, So 0:03:03.320 --> 0:03:07.120 I was back for the final you know, the The 0:03:07.160 --> 0:03:10.239 Men Tell All. Jen Scheft was then the bachelorette, and 0:03:10.320 --> 0:03:12.760 so she had her men tell All and they had 0:03:12.800 --> 0:03:15.560 me back and they were trying they forgot about Yeah, 0:03:15.560 --> 0:03:18.000 they were trying to they were trying to stir stuff up. 0:03:18.360 --> 0:03:19.280 Oh isn't this so weird? 0:03:19.440 --> 0:03:20.079 That's not like me? 0:03:20.240 --> 0:03:22.799 Yeah? Right, Uh but anyway, and I and there there's 0:03:22.800 --> 0:03:24.480 a there's a there's a funny picture of you and 0:03:24.480 --> 0:03:28.000 I on stage and I'm kind of floppy haired and 0:03:28.360 --> 0:03:30.560 but dressed up. And then that night I was flying 0:03:30.600 --> 0:03:33.200 back to New York and I had about four hours 0:03:33.200 --> 0:03:35.600 to kill after the show is done taping, and so 0:03:35.640 --> 0:03:39.320 I met some friends in LA and that was where 0:03:39.360 --> 0:03:43.440 I met Havanna. And it was literally minutes after you 0:03:43.520 --> 0:03:45.880 had the taping of you know, The Men Tell All? 0:03:46.080 --> 0:03:48.920 And then I met her and that was that was 0:03:48.920 --> 0:03:50.720 my last first date. And we just talked about this 0:03:50.760 --> 0:03:52.800 last night. That was all this time. I didn't know 0:03:52.840 --> 0:03:55.480 that I know, And it kind of slipped my mind 0:03:55.600 --> 0:03:57.880 to tell this story. I never heard that story before, 0:03:57.920 --> 0:04:00.240 but it actually gets weirder. So I actually get her 0:04:00.240 --> 0:04:01.920 phone number from a friend, and she was she was 0:04:02.000 --> 0:04:05.320 pretty stand offish for me with naturally and and so 0:04:05.400 --> 0:04:08.080 back in the day, you know, text messaging was like 0:04:08.240 --> 0:04:10.400 you know one two three one two three one two three. 0:04:10.480 --> 0:04:13.600 So I had gotten her number from a friend and 0:04:13.640 --> 0:04:17.279 I texted her from the airport and she wrote back, yeah, 0:04:17.279 --> 0:04:19.320 you know whatever, you know, we'll talk later. And then 0:04:19.400 --> 0:04:23.360 on the plane, as I do, I am very energetic, hyper, 0:04:23.400 --> 0:04:26.680 you might say, yes, so I am. I'm literally head 0:04:26.720 --> 0:04:28.799 over heels in love with this girl that I just met. 0:04:29.000 --> 0:04:32.320 So I am just free flowing texting her on the plane. 0:04:32.640 --> 0:04:34.640 And so as you know, like this is before Wi 0:04:34.640 --> 0:04:36.920 Fi on a plane. So I arrive on a red 0:04:36.920 --> 0:04:39.159 eye in New York at you know, six in the morning, 0:04:39.240 --> 0:04:41.400 so three am on the West Coast. All the messages 0:04:41.440 --> 0:04:44.400 go through just stream of consciousness for me for like 0:04:44.480 --> 0:04:48.160 five hours, comes pouring into her inbox, and all of 0:04:48.240 --> 0:04:51.400 a sudden, now she has like starting off like you know, hey, 0:04:51.520 --> 0:04:54.080 my name is Andrew from the bar whatever we now 0:04:54.120 --> 0:04:55.680 remember that, And then all the way through to like 0:04:55.720 --> 0:04:57.880 how many kids do you want to have? Yeah, all 0:04:57.920 --> 0:04:58.599 the way through. 0:04:58.800 --> 0:05:01.080 And there was modern time then you had your iPhone. 0:05:01.200 --> 0:05:04.680 It would have been like just blue, but it was 0:05:04.720 --> 0:05:07.560 like you know, flip all the way through. And then 0:05:08.520 --> 0:05:10.440 I realized this had happened, and I'm like, oh my god, 0:05:10.480 --> 0:05:11.160 how do I make this right? 0:05:11.160 --> 0:05:12.600 Do I write her again and say I'm sorry? Like 0:05:12.640 --> 0:05:15.440 but I she just wrote back and just said, why 0:05:15.440 --> 0:05:17.480 don't we catch up the next time you're on the 0:05:17.520 --> 0:05:18.039 West Coast? 0:05:18.040 --> 0:05:18.440 Psycho? 0:05:18.839 --> 0:05:19.440 You weirdo? 0:05:19.640 --> 0:05:20.640 Psycho was my number. 0:05:20.760 --> 0:05:22.839 Yes, but that was that It was ironic. So like, 0:05:22.880 --> 0:05:25.160 you know, this bachelor family we always talk about, you know, 0:05:25.200 --> 0:05:28.080 I just met Claire's husband. Yeah, right, and and all 0:05:28.120 --> 0:05:30.000 this stuff might happen because of the show, one way 0:05:30.040 --> 0:05:30.359 or another. 0:05:30.560 --> 0:05:32.840 And so yeah, it is a tangled web we weave 0:05:33.279 --> 0:05:34.760 is and you guys have been married. How long you 0:05:34.760 --> 0:05:35.279 all you're married? 0:05:35.640 --> 0:05:38.920 It'll be fifteen years? Sweet Mary in a row and then. 0:05:39.320 --> 0:05:44.920 Three unbelievably beautiful kids, thank god. Ivanna is so beautiful, 0:05:45.960 --> 0:05:47.880 Jean Brooks. And we have Anya, and then we have 0:05:47.960 --> 0:05:49.880 maybe my favorite human being on the face of the earth, 0:05:50.320 --> 0:05:54.600 The Shaney Act, Sugar Shane. Uh. To explain Shane, your youngest, 0:05:54.720 --> 0:06:01.720 I would say, watch, uh, watch John Belushi, not in it, 0:06:01.880 --> 0:06:06.560 not in his life, but he's a little bit like 0:06:06.800 --> 0:06:09.520 John belushy animal house, like throwing a bowling ball down 0:06:09.520 --> 0:06:12.040 a flight of stairs, lit on fire like that is 0:06:12.160 --> 0:06:15.279 that is your life, That is my Shane. Did you 0:06:15.279 --> 0:06:17.120 and jess did you have a similar story when you 0:06:17.120 --> 0:06:18.800 met jess Was it like head over Hills when you 0:06:18.800 --> 0:06:19.280 first saw her? 0:06:20.520 --> 0:06:20.680 Well? 0:06:20.760 --> 0:06:24.520 Yes, yes, that wasn't a pause similar to Bachelor World though, 0:06:24.760 --> 0:06:27.920 so you've met Jessica. I don't think you have yet. 0:06:28.240 --> 0:06:32.880 Andrew is not so I message her on Instagram. She 0:06:33.040 --> 0:06:36.039 goes home, says, mom, this guy who was on the 0:06:36.080 --> 0:06:38.440 Bachelor messaged me. She doesn't watch the show, she never 0:06:38.480 --> 0:06:41.040 really had, and her mom goes, do you remember this? 0:06:42.000 --> 0:06:45.080 You never talked about boys like I'm really Jessica's first 0:06:46.080 --> 0:06:49.800 legitimate boyfriend, which is amazing for me. Yeah, she has 0:06:49.839 --> 0:06:53.760 no idea what she's missing and I married her. 0:06:54.839 --> 0:06:57.440 But her mom tells the story. Her mom loves the show. 0:06:57.800 --> 0:07:01.479 Jessica is home from college on weekend, walks into the room, 0:07:01.560 --> 0:07:04.200 sees me on TV, sits down for like ten minutes, 0:07:04.240 --> 0:07:06.080 and her mom says, she remembers this because it's very 0:07:06.160 --> 0:07:09.920 unlike Jesskin goes, I can date that guy, so sim 0:07:09.960 --> 0:07:13.680 not like a Bachelor connection. But and Jessica remembers seeing 0:07:13.680 --> 0:07:15.560 me then she like that reminded her. Oh yeah, I 0:07:15.560 --> 0:07:17.600 did see him on TV. I'll go on a date 0:07:17.640 --> 0:07:21.360 with him. So not like we didn't meet through the Bachelor, 0:07:21.400 --> 0:07:23.440 but that was her first introduction to me, just in 0:07:23.480 --> 0:07:23.880 ten minutes. 0:07:23.880 --> 0:07:25.320 She didn't have to watch a lot, which is great. 0:07:25.360 --> 0:07:26.560 She'll never watch the show. 0:07:26.960 --> 0:07:29.160 She you'll think she'll watch though, did you she refused. 0:07:29.120 --> 0:07:30.400 I want to hear her so all answer for it. Did 0:07:30.440 --> 0:07:32.960 you ever watch the show? No? And Ivanna's never watched 0:07:32.960 --> 0:07:36.280 the show. I was just a so you've seen you. 0:07:36.440 --> 0:07:37.880 I know you've seen the show, but you never watched 0:07:37.880 --> 0:07:40.880 Andrew Firestone. I don't know if that's is that on film? 0:07:41.200 --> 0:07:44.440 That's probably on a film weed. I want you to 0:07:44.480 --> 0:07:47.840 watch it like the show. We etched it into tablets 0:07:48.320 --> 0:07:50.320 and we put it up on this HD. Would not 0:07:50.320 --> 0:07:52.200 have been kind of me, No, it was. I'm very grateful. 0:07:52.880 --> 0:07:55.440 Andrew was definitely old school and it was funny. I 0:07:55.520 --> 0:08:00.760 was just a Colton's wedding and his husband, Jordan just 0:08:00.800 --> 0:08:04.000 watched the show. He just watched Colton season and I 0:08:04.040 --> 0:08:05.680 was at the wedding and I said, why would you 0:08:05.720 --> 0:08:07.640 do that? He says, you know, we run into so 0:08:07.720 --> 0:08:09.680 many people, and I'm sure Evanna and just do the 0:08:09.720 --> 0:08:11.560 same thing. They run into so many people, and that's 0:08:11.560 --> 0:08:13.200 what everyone's talking about. I wanted to know what the 0:08:13.240 --> 0:08:14.120 hell everybody was talking. 0:08:14.360 --> 0:08:16.440 Wasn't he in like a couple of seasons, didn't he do? 0:08:16.480 --> 0:08:16.640 Was he? 0:08:16.760 --> 0:08:16.880 Well? 0:08:16.920 --> 0:08:17.800 Yeah, it's typical. 0:08:17.920 --> 0:08:19.560 You were on the Bacherette and then you come on 0:08:19.640 --> 0:08:21.560 and be the Bachelor and then he jumped a fence 0:08:21.560 --> 0:08:22.560 and ran away in Portugal. 0:08:23.360 --> 0:08:25.440 But but there's a there's a lot of film on him, 0:08:25.480 --> 0:08:27.040 you know, like like, yeah, that's the that's the that's 0:08:27.080 --> 0:08:29.240 the kind of the weird thing. I would think as 0:08:29.280 --> 0:08:31.520 a as a new person coming in and meeting somebody 0:08:31.520 --> 0:08:33.240 that was on the show, it's like, well, it's like 0:08:33.280 --> 0:08:35.760 you've already done, like we've seen these moves, We've seen 0:08:35.760 --> 0:08:37.800 you know, we've heard this, this, this this banter. 0:08:38.000 --> 0:08:39.680 Well, I asked, Jordia's there, how do you think he 0:08:39.679 --> 0:08:40.520 did as a straight guy? 0:08:40.800 --> 0:08:45.000 Yeah, he was awful. How does everybody not know? 0:08:46.280 --> 0:08:47.440 How does he said that? 0:08:48.040 --> 0:08:48.800 Who so? 0:08:48.800 --> 0:08:48.880 So? 0:08:49.000 --> 0:08:53.280 His new husband he had inklings that once he watched 0:08:53.320 --> 0:08:56.360 the show. Oh yes, he clearly saw. He's like I 0:08:56.400 --> 0:08:57.200 didn't know what he guess? 0:08:57.240 --> 0:08:57.440 I did? 0:08:57.520 --> 0:08:59.920 Nobody guess, And so. 0:08:59.800 --> 0:09:01.720 That's that's really that's a really interesting. 0:09:01.720 --> 0:09:02.760 But he got into the show. 0:09:02.800 --> 0:09:04.959 The funny thing is Jordan said he was in the 0:09:05.000 --> 0:09:06.880 other room and he'd be yelling at Colton, like, why 0:09:06.880 --> 0:09:07.800 did you get rid of her? 0:09:08.120 --> 0:09:11.199 She was great, Hannah b was amazing. 0:09:10.880 --> 0:09:12.640 And he really got into the show. Was a fan, 0:09:12.679 --> 0:09:14.240 he goes, I kind of forgot it was even Colton 0:09:14.280 --> 0:09:17.040 and I just started watching that he got into. 0:09:16.920 --> 0:09:19.720 It was really that would be really fun. I would 0:09:19.760 --> 0:09:21.680 love to sit down with Jordan and watch like that 0:09:21.720 --> 0:09:24.920 show with him. Yeah, to be an analyst unpacked. 0:09:26.240 --> 0:09:28.120 There was a lot to that there, and we did 0:09:28.160 --> 0:09:31.880 that with a lot of wine and NAPA. But I 0:09:32.000 --> 0:09:35.120 really you guys were in a different time and place. 0:09:35.679 --> 0:09:37.760 You were old school when we were still figuring out 0:09:37.760 --> 0:09:41.640 the show Andrew, and it was still so different to 0:09:41.720 --> 0:09:45.400 find that guy no one had ever heard of, and 0:09:45.440 --> 0:09:47.040 he would come in and be the bachelor, and then 0:09:47.080 --> 0:09:50.400 there's flash forward to that formula of you go on 0:09:50.440 --> 0:09:53.040 the Bachelorette, you get popular, we put you on as 0:09:53.080 --> 0:09:54.439 the bachelor, and so on. 0:09:54.840 --> 0:09:56.720 The secrecy part of it for me was so weird, 0:09:56.880 --> 0:09:59.040 Like it was it was like Cloak and Dagger, like 0:09:59.080 --> 0:10:02.000 they not only during the during the shooting, right like 0:10:02.040 --> 0:10:04.360 everything was so under wraps, and we had code names 0:10:04.360 --> 0:10:06.680 and nobody supposed to know who I was and whatever else. 0:10:06.679 --> 0:10:09.600 The girls didn't know who I was, And I remember 0:10:09.679 --> 0:10:12.200 clearly I was staying. I was staying in the in 0:10:12.240 --> 0:10:13.439 the bachelor mansion. 0:10:13.679 --> 0:10:15.880 Yeah, back then it was also different because the guy 0:10:16.160 --> 0:10:18.160 or the made the lead would stay in the mansion 0:10:18.360 --> 0:10:20.920 the little time where we had the rose ceremony myself 0:10:21.000 --> 0:10:22.439 and then we flipped it. By the time we had 0:10:22.440 --> 0:10:26.560 been the ladies when it wasn't it was he was 0:10:26.559 --> 0:10:28.720 old school. He was in the original mansion in Malibu 0:10:28.920 --> 0:10:29.440 and it was. 0:10:29.360 --> 0:10:31.559 And it was like they didn't want anyone to have 0:10:31.640 --> 0:10:35.400 like contact, and like I was sequestered. Like even so 0:10:35.520 --> 0:10:37.480 one day, like I'm just bored out of my mind. 0:10:37.480 --> 0:10:39.559 It was a down day, so I'm like walking around 0:10:39.760 --> 0:10:40.959 and I made my way up to a cover where 0:10:40.960 --> 0:10:42.600 the production was and they had these tents and stuff 0:10:42.640 --> 0:10:44.960 like that, and I never forget. There was this some 0:10:45.040 --> 0:10:47.199 girl what she had the ear thing in and whatever 0:10:47.240 --> 0:10:49.960 else she's production and she and I'm like just kind 0:10:49.960 --> 0:10:52.160 of making small tag. I just want to talk to somebody, 0:10:52.280 --> 0:10:54.280 and she's like, yeah, cause's so funny. You'd make a 0:10:54.320 --> 0:10:57.800 great bachelor. I'm like, who did you like to like, 0:10:57.800 --> 0:11:00.439 what do you know? I am the bachelorship? Oh my god. 0:11:00.480 --> 0:11:02.800 She had no idea. She was just working production, not 0:11:02.920 --> 0:11:04.720 like you know, on the you know, on the setup 0:11:04.720 --> 0:11:05.280 and whatever else. 0:11:05.320 --> 0:11:05.800 Had no idea. 0:11:05.760 --> 0:11:07.360 I had a new idea who I was because they 0:11:07.360 --> 0:11:10.079 had sequestered me so much, even from the people that 0:11:10.120 --> 0:11:12.760 weren't supposed to know who I was. And then we'd go, 0:11:12.840 --> 0:11:14.640 oh my god, that this like the lengths they would 0:11:14.679 --> 0:11:16.760 go through to keep us, you know, a secret, and 0:11:16.760 --> 0:11:19.240 then they reveal on Good Morning America. It was the 0:11:19.360 --> 0:11:22.000 oddest ten weeks, twelve, whatever it was. 0:11:22.000 --> 0:11:23.880 Which is funny because back then you didn't have nearly 0:11:23.920 --> 0:11:26.040 as hard a time keeping somebody quiet because there was 0:11:26.080 --> 0:11:28.560 no social media. Not everyone in the world had cameras 0:11:28.559 --> 0:11:30.440 on their phones, et cetera. So it was just so 0:11:30.559 --> 0:11:33.640 much easier to do that back then. I remember. So, Yeah, 0:11:33.679 --> 0:11:37.120 we shot. It was this awesome house. It wasn't like 0:11:37.160 --> 0:11:38.520 a great house you would want to live in, but 0:11:38.559 --> 0:11:40.520 it was cool for shooting. It was right on the 0:11:40.520 --> 0:11:43.079 pch in Malibu. We were kind of part of the 0:11:43.120 --> 0:11:45.880 reason that Malibu changed their laws of not in my backyard, 0:11:46.440 --> 0:11:49.240 of you can only shoot so many consecutive days. So 0:11:49.440 --> 0:11:51.960 they basically they wanted us out of Malibu, and but 0:11:52.040 --> 0:11:54.680 we shot on this cliff. It was spectacular back. 0:11:54.520 --> 0:11:56.160 Then it was beautiful. It was it was very cool. 0:11:56.280 --> 0:11:56.920 And the ladies. 0:11:57.280 --> 0:11:59.000 The ladies were also in Malibui. They were down the 0:11:59.000 --> 0:12:01.120 pch and this other else kind of I think it 0:12:01.160 --> 0:12:03.720 was Zuma Point doom is where your your ladies were. 0:12:04.160 --> 0:12:05.200 So I would get up in the morning. 0:12:05.200 --> 0:12:07.120 It was funny when I would do day cards. I 0:12:07.160 --> 0:12:10.040 would get up and I would go to their house 0:12:10.120 --> 0:12:12.920 a different house, and introduce the dates, et cetera. Then 0:12:12.960 --> 0:12:15.040 I would come to the bachelor mansion and talk to 0:12:15.080 --> 0:12:17.600 Andrews like a bunch of back and forth. It was 0:12:18.200 --> 0:12:20.680 we streamlined it much more when we flipped it, like 0:12:20.720 --> 0:12:21.120 for you. 0:12:21.280 --> 0:12:35.320 Yeah, I have a question for you. Yeah, Chris, this 0:12:35.440 --> 0:12:37.199 is your podcast, but I do a question now. I've 0:12:37.200 --> 0:12:41.280 always wanted this so back then, you know, Andrew is 0:12:41.440 --> 0:12:45.240 similar to your age, right, the greatest host of all 0:12:45.280 --> 0:12:47.880 time on television. How in the world did you host 0:12:47.920 --> 0:12:51.160 a show, a dating show with somebody equal to you? 0:12:51.480 --> 0:12:53.880 Because for me, I always looked at you as a 0:12:53.920 --> 0:12:56.920 friend but also a mentor. You give me great advice. 0:12:57.760 --> 0:12:59.400 I listened to what you had to say if it 0:12:59.440 --> 0:13:02.320 was on camera, off camera because of the age difference 0:13:02.360 --> 0:13:04.520 and just to your but if you're looking at Andrew, 0:13:04.920 --> 0:13:07.040 who I'm guessing a year or two. 0:13:06.920 --> 0:13:08.960 A party, it's a couple of years. But remember he 0:13:09.080 --> 0:13:11.200 was right where I wanted to be. Like, so he 0:13:11.280 --> 0:13:14.240 was a couple of years older, married with a young son, 0:13:14.840 --> 0:13:16.400 and so that was so like it was actually I 0:13:16.440 --> 0:13:18.360 think the dynamic was perfect because that was kind of 0:13:18.360 --> 0:13:22.000 like what I was looking, you know, to accomplish. Now. 0:13:22.400 --> 0:13:26.080 A lot of times the sincerity of the bachelor thing 0:13:26.120 --> 0:13:30.000 gets drawn into question and I get that, you know whatever. 0:13:30.240 --> 0:13:32.080 But when I did, it was so long ago. I 0:13:32.200 --> 0:13:34.320 was im, you can ask my wife. I am a 0:13:34.440 --> 0:13:37.400 I am a romantic, like I fully believe, and. 0:13:37.480 --> 0:13:39.240 Like, yes you are, that's true. 0:13:39.360 --> 0:13:42.400 So after I met her, of Anna, three months after 0:13:42.520 --> 0:13:44.160 two and a half months after we met, we were 0:13:44.240 --> 0:13:46.760 dating back and forth. She said, well, this isn't gonna work. 0:13:46.760 --> 0:13:48.520 We're going long term, you know, a long distance. It's 0:13:48.520 --> 0:13:50.520 not going to work. So I up and moved. I 0:13:50.640 --> 0:13:54.080 literally moved to l A And like she's like, bang, 0:13:54.160 --> 0:14:02.319 its just no. So like I go down there, how 0:14:02.320 --> 0:14:04.640 many houses did I see before I bought one. I 0:14:04.640 --> 0:14:06.719 saw the first house I saw. I'm like, oh, does'll work. 0:14:07.040 --> 0:14:09.600 It's in the same City's like, oh my god, that's 0:14:09.640 --> 0:14:11.720 that's like, that's not romantic, that's stalker. 0:14:11.760 --> 0:14:12.720 It's not. It's not. 0:14:12.800 --> 0:14:17.200 It's like it's like there's a very thin line. He 0:14:17.280 --> 0:14:19.840 watched it really well. He doesn't watch So I'm a 0:14:19.920 --> 0:14:22.840 huge rom com fan. I love rom coms, and it 0:14:22.920 --> 0:14:25.080 is funny how many rom comms you watch and you're like, 0:14:25.720 --> 0:14:29.000 you know, is that romantic or is it like illegal? 0:14:29.160 --> 0:14:31.360 Yeah, I can't get away with that. Like me, I 0:14:31.600 --> 0:14:33.200 don't get away with that stuff. It's like some of 0:14:33.240 --> 0:14:35.120 the stuff that John Hughes would pull in those movies. 0:14:35.160 --> 0:14:37.800 You're like, ah, yeah, that's that's not healthy. 0:14:37.960 --> 0:14:39.080 Those girls should have run. 0:14:39.200 --> 0:14:41.560 But I agree with you because Chris gave me life 0:14:41.640 --> 0:14:44.760 advice that I still quote and still live by today. 0:14:45.120 --> 0:14:46.600 Like I've told him this a thousand times. 0:14:46.640 --> 0:14:49.560 But the advice he gave me off camera in a 0:14:49.600 --> 0:14:53.240 bar over a glass of whiskey was use this whole 0:14:53.240 --> 0:14:54.040 thing to enhance life. 0:14:54.120 --> 0:14:55.720 Already had not change your life completely. 0:14:56.320 --> 0:14:58.640 That is still not only when it comes to like 0:14:58.720 --> 0:15:02.320 my faith tradition what I do. But it's still like 0:15:02.400 --> 0:15:05.560 my career choices, like is this enhancing or is this 0:15:05.720 --> 0:15:09.000 changing me? So I'm with you on like you looked 0:15:09.000 --> 0:15:11.600 at him as okay, he has what like you are 0:15:11.640 --> 0:15:14.520 looking for, so you can listen to him as equal partner, 0:15:14.560 --> 0:15:16.760 you know, like he's got your back. But I did 0:15:16.760 --> 0:15:20.240 the same thing, you know, fifteen years later. But it's 0:15:20.320 --> 0:15:23.200 interesting from your perspective on how did you do that 0:15:23.240 --> 0:15:23.840 with confidence? 0:15:24.120 --> 0:15:27.040 It changed? It definitely changed because obviously I grew with 0:15:27.080 --> 0:15:29.320 the show as well. I mean having when you're in 0:15:29.360 --> 0:15:30.960 at five ten years. By the time you got on 0:15:30.960 --> 0:15:32.680 the show, I'd been doing it so long. I was like, 0:15:32.720 --> 0:15:35.400 I've been here, done that. I can help you navigate 0:15:35.440 --> 0:15:38.720 this and work this through your life. With Andrew, like 0:15:38.760 --> 0:15:41.360 when I'm with you and some of kind of the 0:15:41.640 --> 0:15:44.880 younger bachelors, it is interesting. I feel like it's my 0:15:45.240 --> 0:15:48.280 kids coming back from college, Like Joshua's home this summer, 0:15:48.280 --> 0:15:51.200 Taylor's home the summer. I feel like they're adults, They're 0:15:51.200 --> 0:15:53.000 great people. I want to hang out with them, but 0:15:53.080 --> 0:15:56.560 I'm still that kind of father figure, the adult in 0:15:56.600 --> 0:16:00.320 the room with Bob Guiney with Andrew, with people that 0:16:00.960 --> 0:16:03.640 we are definitely equals as far as our life and 0:16:03.640 --> 0:16:08.240 our experiences. But yeah, I think it was I had 0:16:09.000 --> 0:16:12.440 that life experience of being married, being a dad, taking 0:16:12.480 --> 0:16:14.880 those steps to get to that point. But I was 0:16:14.880 --> 0:16:16.760 also a different I was a different host back then. 0:16:16.800 --> 0:16:19.240 I was more hosty. I was more listening to what 0:16:19.280 --> 0:16:21.840 the producers were telling me, as opposed to when you're 0:16:21.840 --> 0:16:25.720 on then I'm producing myself and I'm hosting the show 0:16:25.800 --> 0:16:27.600 kind of on my own. I would walk into the 0:16:27.680 --> 0:16:29.840 room and know exactly what you needed and what the 0:16:29.880 --> 0:16:32.640 situation asked of me. With Andrew, I didn't know that 0:16:32.760 --> 0:16:34.600 we were It was a lot of trial and error. 0:16:34.600 --> 0:16:37.320 I mean they were It's like, you know, you know 0:16:37.320 --> 0:16:39.160 how you say with the first the first kid you have, 0:16:39.800 --> 0:16:44.200 you know, they're the first pancake. Sometimes they're uncooked, sometimes 0:16:44.200 --> 0:16:47.840 they're overcooked. You're trying to figure it out, you know. 0:16:47.960 --> 0:16:50.200 Sorry Brooks and sorry Joshua, but that's the way it goes. 0:16:50.960 --> 0:16:53.040 That's how I felt with the early Bachelors. It's like, 0:16:53.480 --> 0:16:55.440 you know, I did a good job, but it wasn't 0:16:55.440 --> 0:16:57.560 the job I did later in life where I could 0:16:57.560 --> 0:16:59.560 be a much better dad because I have great perspective 0:17:00.080 --> 0:17:03.040 makes sense. And one of the things I remember with 0:17:03.240 --> 0:17:06.479 Andrew two things that never happened before and have never 0:17:06.520 --> 0:17:10.400 happened since. We were serving Night one really crappy wine 0:17:10.440 --> 0:17:13.679 because we're cheap as you know. It's like, you know, 0:17:13.760 --> 0:17:18.560 the unlabeled horrible wine. The Firestone family makes incredible wines. 0:17:18.600 --> 0:17:21.359 Did they're out of the business now, but now they 0:17:21.400 --> 0:17:25.760 make great beers. Go check out Firestone. But night one, 0:17:25.880 --> 0:17:28.679 Andrew woke up the next day and goes, hey, do 0:17:28.720 --> 0:17:31.560 you guys mind if I bring my own wine and 0:17:31.600 --> 0:17:34.800