1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:06,000 Speaker 1: This is the most dramatic podcast ever and iHeartRadio podcast. 2 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:12,360 Speaker 1: Chris Harrison still here at the Rosewood, Montecito. Again, as 3 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 1: I said before, that's what bougie people call Santa Barbara. 4 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 1: And I am so excited about this particular episode because 5 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:25,280 Speaker 1: two guys I love and adore, and I loved him 6 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 1: so much that I actually wanted to put these guys together, 7 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 1: and we did. We all went and played golf years ago. 8 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:32,920 Speaker 1: I think it was a Jaden Tanner's wedding, and I said, 9 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 1: you have to meet this guy. Y'all are going to 10 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 1: be fast friends. And now we're all here together. I'm 11 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:41,600 Speaker 1: here with two former bachelors. Maybe both would be on 12 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:44,520 Speaker 1: the Mount Rushmore of bachelor's I really think that's true. 13 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 1: Andrew Firestone and Ben Higgins. I think easily on the 14 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 1: on the Mount Rushmore. 15 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 2: I tell people that about Andrew's just so sweet. 16 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's handsome. In fact, on the way here, you 17 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 3: want to hear a good story. Yes, Ashley and I 18 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 3: are driving here actually acknety Okay, it's a great story. 19 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:04,760 Speaker 3: And so we're driving from LA to Santa Barbara and 20 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 3: her Hyundai Tucson and Ashley goes, I've never met Andrew, 21 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 3: and I said, you've never met Andrew? How has that happened? 22 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 3: But she just hasn't been around for all the times 23 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:16,320 Speaker 3: that we've gotten to hang out. 24 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 2: Who's Evince? She goes, who, Like, what's Andrew? Like? I 25 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:21,760 Speaker 2: was like, he's Bob Guinny, funny. 26 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 3: Chris Harrison handsome and he and she goes, Okay, no, 27 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 3: she stops me shoes that makes sense, Like Bob, you 28 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:30,120 Speaker 3: wouldn't say he's the most handsome man in the world. 29 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 3: She goes, So, I don't see Andrew being funny because 30 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:35,400 Speaker 3: he's so handsome. 31 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:36,839 Speaker 2: I said, here's the problem. 32 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:39,119 Speaker 3: You're gonna fall in love with Andrew, like you're gonna 33 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:41,040 Speaker 3: do all the girls do like they meet him and 34 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 3: afterwards they all giggle. They're like, yeah, it's just kind 35 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 3: of because I'm talking about me. 36 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 1: By the way, Bob Guinny, who listens to the show 37 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 1: almost famous, big bone, you have a great personality. You 38 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 1: have a great personality, and we love you. And speaking 39 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 1: of love more, and Andrew his beautiful wife Evanna sitting 40 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 1: right here, and so I think all of you for 41 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 1: being here, and most importantly, you guys brought me at tequila. 42 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:09,960 Speaker 1: We did which I am grateful for and old. 43 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:12,240 Speaker 4: There's there's not many places you can spend twenty five 44 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 4: dollars on a tequila drink, but this is one of. 45 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:15,800 Speaker 2: The roads put it on you. 46 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:16,959 Speaker 4: I just had a. 47 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 2: Thirty four dollars martini. Yeah, yeah, it was impressive. 48 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 4: It served it in a home depot. 49 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 3: But he did marry up though. I want to say 50 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 3: that you did marry up. Yeah, very it's impressive. 51 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 1: I remember when I first met Evana. I was at 52 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 1: a guy named Jason Carbones house that we had a party. 53 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 1: Jason used to work on the show, kind of producer. 54 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:36,399 Speaker 1: He directed from a hot moment and we were there. 55 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:39,120 Speaker 1: Do you remember that? It was right after was it 56 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:41,240 Speaker 1: Tristan Ryan season? I don't know, I forget what it was, 57 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:44,360 Speaker 1: but you would you it was fairly reason You've broken 58 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 1: up with Jen and you walked in with Evana and 59 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 1: everybody thought the same thing, like what is happening here? 60 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:53,800 Speaker 1: Like what what's happening? So one of the ironic things. 61 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:55,799 Speaker 1: I don't think people know this. She just bad cataracts, 62 00:02:57,880 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 1: so people don't know this. 63 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:03,240 Speaker 4: But but I actually met Havanna through the Bachelor, So 64 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 4: I was back for the final you know, the The 65 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:10,239 Speaker 4: Men Tell All. Jen Scheft was then the bachelorette, and 66 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 4: so she had her men tell All and they had 67 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 4: me back and they were trying they forgot about Yeah, 68 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 4: they were trying to they were trying to stir stuff up. 69 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 4: Oh isn't this so weird? 70 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:20,079 Speaker 2: That's not like me? 71 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:22,799 Speaker 4: Yeah? Right, Uh but anyway, and I and there there's 72 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 4: a there's a there's a funny picture of you and 73 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 4: I on stage and I'm kind of floppy haired and 74 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 4: but dressed up. And then that night I was flying 75 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 4: back to New York and I had about four hours 76 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 4: to kill after the show is done taping, and so 77 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 4: I met some friends in LA and that was where 78 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 4: I met Havanna. And it was literally minutes after you 79 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 4: had the taping of you know, The Men Tell All? 80 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 4: And then I met her and that was that was 81 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 4: my last first date. And we just talked about this 82 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 4: last night. That was all this time. I didn't know 83 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 4: that I know, And it kind of slipped my mind 84 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 4: to tell this story. I never heard that story before, 85 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 4: but it actually gets weirder. So I actually get her 86 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 4: phone number from a friend, and she was she was 87 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 4: pretty stand offish for me with naturally and and so 88 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 4: back in the day, you know, text messaging was like 89 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 4: you know one two three one two three one two three. 90 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 4: So I had gotten her number from a friend and 91 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:17,279 Speaker 4: I texted her from the airport and she wrote back, yeah, 92 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 4: you know whatever, you know, we'll talk later. And then 93 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:23,360 Speaker 4: on the plane, as I do, I am very energetic, hyper, 94 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 4: you might say, yes, so I am. I'm literally head 95 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:28,799 Speaker 4: over heels in love with this girl that I just met. 96 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 4: So I am just free flowing texting her on the plane. 97 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 4: And so as you know, like this is before Wi 98 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:36,920 Speaker 4: Fi on a plane. So I arrive on a red 99 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:39,159 Speaker 4: eye in New York at you know, six in the morning, 100 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 4: so three am on the West Coast. All the messages 101 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 4: go through just stream of consciousness for me for like 102 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:48,160 Speaker 4: five hours, comes pouring into her inbox, and all of 103 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 4: a sudden, now she has like starting off like you know, hey, 104 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 4: my name is Andrew from the bar whatever we now 105 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 4: remember that, And then all the way through to like 106 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 4: how many kids do you want to have? Yeah, all 107 00:04:57,920 --> 00:04:58,599 Speaker 4: the way through. 108 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 1: And there was modern time then you had your iPhone. 109 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 1: It would have been like just blue, but it was 110 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 1: like you know, flip all the way through. And then 111 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 1: I realized this had happened, and I'm like, oh my god, 112 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:11,160 Speaker 1: how do I make this right? 113 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:12,600 Speaker 4: Do I write her again and say I'm sorry? Like 114 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 4: but I she just wrote back and just said, why 115 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:17,480 Speaker 4: don't we catch up the next time you're on the 116 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:18,039 Speaker 4: West Coast? 117 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 1: Psycho? 118 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 4: You weirdo? 119 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 2: Psycho was my number. 120 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:22,839 Speaker 4: Yes, but that was that It was ironic. So like, 121 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:25,160 Speaker 4: you know, this bachelor family we always talk about, you know, 122 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 4: I just met Claire's husband. Yeah, right, and and all 123 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 4: this stuff might happen because of the show, one way 124 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:30,359 Speaker 4: or another. 125 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:32,840 Speaker 1: And so yeah, it is a tangled web we weave 126 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 1: is and you guys have been married. How long you 127 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:35,279 Speaker 1: all you're married? 128 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:38,920 Speaker 2: It'll be fifteen years? Sweet Mary in a row and then. 129 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:44,920 Speaker 1: Three unbelievably beautiful kids, thank god. Ivanna is so beautiful, 130 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 1: Jean Brooks. And we have Anya, and then we have 131 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 1: maybe my favorite human being on the face of the earth, 132 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:54,600 Speaker 1: The Shaney Act, Sugar Shane. Uh. To explain Shane, your youngest, 133 00:05:54,720 --> 00:06:01,720 Speaker 1: I would say, watch, uh, watch John Belushi, not in it, 134 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 1: not in his life, but he's a little bit like 135 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 1: John belushy animal house, like throwing a bowling ball down 136 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:12,040 Speaker 1: a flight of stairs, lit on fire like that is 137 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:15,279 Speaker 1: that is your life, That is my Shane. Did you 138 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 1: and jess did you have a similar story when you 139 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 1: met jess Was it like head over Hills when you 140 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:19,280 Speaker 1: first saw her? 141 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 2: Well? 142 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, that wasn't a pause similar to Bachelor World though, 143 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:27,920 Speaker 3: so you've met Jessica. I don't think you have yet. 144 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 3: Andrew is not so I message her on Instagram. She 145 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:36,039 Speaker 3: goes home, says, mom, this guy who was on the 146 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 3: Bachelor messaged me. She doesn't watch the show, she never 147 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:41,040 Speaker 3: really had, and her mom goes, do you remember this? 148 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 3: You never talked about boys like I'm really Jessica's first 149 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 3: legitimate boyfriend, which is amazing for me. Yeah, she has 150 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 3: no idea what she's missing and I married her. 151 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 2: But her mom tells the story. Her mom loves the show. 152 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:01,479 Speaker 3: Jessica is home from college on weekend, walks into the room, 153 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 3: sees me on TV, sits down for like ten minutes, 154 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 3: and her mom says, she remembers this because it's very 155 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 3: unlike Jesskin goes, I can date that guy, so sim 156 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:13,680 Speaker 3: not like a Bachelor connection. But and Jessica remembers seeing 157 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 3: me then she like that reminded her. Oh yeah, I 158 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 3: did see him on TV. I'll go on a date 159 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 3: with him. So not like we didn't meet through the Bachelor, 160 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 3: but that was her first introduction to me, just in 161 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 3: ten minutes. 162 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 2: She didn't have to watch a lot, which is great. 163 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 2: She'll never watch the show. 164 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 1: She you'll think she'll watch though, did you she refused. 165 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 1: I want to hear her so all answer for it. Did 166 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 1: you ever watch the show? No? And Ivanna's never watched 167 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 1: the show. I was just a so you've seen you. 168 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 1: I know you've seen the show, but you never watched 169 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 1: Andrew Firestone. I don't know if that's is that on film? 170 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 1: That's probably on a film weed. I want you to 171 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 1: watch it like the show. We etched it into tablets 172 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 1: and we put it up on this HD. Would not 173 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 1: have been kind of me, No, it was. I'm very grateful. 174 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 1: Andrew was definitely old school and it was funny. I 175 00:07:55,520 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 1: was just a Colton's wedding and his husband, Jordan just 176 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 1: watched the show. He just watched Colton season and I 177 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 1: was at the wedding and I said, why would you 178 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 1: do that? He says, you know, we run into so 179 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 1: many people, and I'm sure Evanna and just do the 180 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 1: same thing. They run into so many people, and that's 181 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 1: what everyone's talking about. I wanted to know what the 182 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 1: hell everybody was talking. 183 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 4: Wasn't he in like a couple of seasons, didn't he do? 184 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 4: Was he? 185 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 1: Well? 186 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's typical. 187 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 1: You were on the Bacherette and then you come on 188 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:21,560 Speaker 1: and be the Bachelor and then he jumped a fence 189 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 1: and ran away in Portugal. 190 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 4: But but there's a there's a lot of film on him, 191 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 4: you know, like like, yeah, that's the that's the that's 192 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 4: the kind of the weird thing. I would think as 193 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 4: a as a new person coming in and meeting somebody 194 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 4: that was on the show, it's like, well, it's like 195 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 4: you've already done, like we've seen these moves, We've seen 196 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 4: you know, we've heard this, this, this this banter. 197 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:39,680 Speaker 1: Well, I asked, Jordia's there, how do you think he 198 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 1: did as a straight guy? 199 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, he was awful. How does everybody not know? 200 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:47,440 Speaker 4: How does he said that? 201 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 1: Who so? 202 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 3: So? 203 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 1: His new husband he had inklings that once he watched 204 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 1: the show. Oh yes, he clearly saw. He's like I 205 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:57,200 Speaker 1: didn't know what he guess? 206 00:08:57,240 --> 00:08:57,440 Speaker 3: I did? 207 00:08:57,520 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 1: Nobody guess, And so. 208 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:01,720 Speaker 4: That's that's really that's a really interesting. 209 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 2: But he got into the show. 210 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:04,959 Speaker 1: The funny thing is Jordan said he was in the 211 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 1: other room and he'd be yelling at Colton, like, why 212 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 1: did you get rid of her? 213 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:11,199 Speaker 2: She was great, Hannah b was amazing. 214 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 1: And he really got into the show. Was a fan, 215 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 1: he goes, I kind of forgot it was even Colton 216 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 1: and I just started watching that he got into. 217 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 3: It was really that would be really fun. I would 218 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:21,680 Speaker 3: love to sit down with Jordan and watch like that 219 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 3: show with him. Yeah, to be an analyst unpacked. 220 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 1: There was a lot to that there, and we did 221 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 1: that with a lot of wine and NAPA. But I 222 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 1: really you guys were in a different time and place. 223 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 1: You were old school when we were still figuring out 224 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 1: the show Andrew, and it was still so different to 225 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 1: find that guy no one had ever heard of, and 226 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 1: he would come in and be the bachelor, and then 227 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 1: there's flash forward to that formula of you go on 228 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 1: the Bachelorette, you get popular, we put you on as 229 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:54,439 Speaker 1: the bachelor, and so on. 230 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:56,720 Speaker 4: The secrecy part of it for me was so weird, 231 00:09:56,880 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 4: Like it was it was like Cloak and Dagger, like 232 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 4: they not only during the during the shooting, right like 233 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 4: everything was so under wraps, and we had code names 234 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:06,680 Speaker 4: and nobody supposed to know who I was and whatever else. 235 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:09,600 Speaker 4: The girls didn't know who I was, And I remember 236 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:12,200 Speaker 4: clearly I was staying. I was staying in the in 237 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:13,439 Speaker 4: the bachelor mansion. 238 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, back then it was also different because the guy 239 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 1: or the made the lead would stay in the mansion 240 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 1: the little time where we had the rose ceremony myself 241 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:22,439 Speaker 1: and then we flipped it. By the time we had 242 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:26,560 Speaker 1: been the ladies when it wasn't it was he was 243 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:28,720 Speaker 1: old school. He was in the original mansion in Malibu 244 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:29,440 Speaker 1: and it was. 245 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:31,559 Speaker 4: And it was like they didn't want anyone to have 246 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 4: like contact, and like I was sequestered. Like even so 247 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 4: one day, like I'm just bored out of my mind. 248 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:39,559 Speaker 4: It was a down day, so I'm like walking around 249 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:40,959 Speaker 4: and I made my way up to a cover where 250 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 4: the production was and they had these tents and stuff 251 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:44,960 Speaker 4: like that, and I never forget. There was this some 252 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:47,199 Speaker 4: girl what she had the ear thing in and whatever 253 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:49,960 Speaker 4: else she's production and she and I'm like just kind 254 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 4: of making small tag. I just want to talk to somebody, 255 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 4: and she's like, yeah, cause's so funny. You'd make a 256 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 4: great bachelor. I'm like, who did you like to like, 257 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:00,439 Speaker 4: what do you know? I am the bachelorship? Oh my god. 258 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 4: She had no idea. She was just working production, not 259 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:04,720 Speaker 4: like you know, on the you know, on the setup 260 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 4: and whatever else. 261 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 1: Had no idea. 262 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 4: I had a new idea who I was because they 263 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:10,079 Speaker 4: had sequestered me so much, even from the people that 264 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 4: weren't supposed to know who I was. And then we'd go, 265 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 4: oh my god, that this like the lengths they would 266 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 4: go through to keep us, you know, a secret, and 267 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 4: then they reveal on Good Morning America. It was the 268 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 4: oddest ten weeks, twelve, whatever it was. 269 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 1: Which is funny because back then you didn't have nearly 270 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 1: as hard a time keeping somebody quiet because there was 271 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:28,560 Speaker 1: no social media. Not everyone in the world had cameras 272 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:30,440 Speaker 1: on their phones, et cetera. So it was just so 273 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 1: much easier to do that back then. I remember. So, Yeah, 274 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 1: we shot. It was this awesome house. It wasn't like 275 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 1: a great house you would want to live in, but 276 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 1: it was cool for shooting. It was right on the 277 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:43,079 Speaker 1: pch in Malibu. We were kind of part of the 278 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 1: reason that Malibu changed their laws of not in my backyard, 279 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 1: of you can only shoot so many consecutive days. So 280 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:51,960 Speaker 1: they basically they wanted us out of Malibu, and but 281 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:54,680 Speaker 1: we shot on this cliff. It was spectacular back. 282 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 4: Then it was beautiful. It was it was very cool. 283 00:11:56,280 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 2: And the ladies. 284 00:11:57,280 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 1: The ladies were also in Malibui. They were down the 285 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 1: pch and this other else kind of I think it 286 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:03,720 Speaker 1: was Zuma Point doom is where your your ladies were. 287 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:05,200 Speaker 2: So I would get up in the morning. 288 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 1: It was funny when I would do day cards. I 289 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 1: would get up and I would go to their house 290 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 1: a different house, and introduce the dates, et cetera. Then 291 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 1: I would come to the bachelor mansion and talk to 292 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:17,600 Speaker 1: Andrews like a bunch of back and forth. It was 293 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:20,680 Speaker 1: we streamlined it much more when we flipped it, like 294 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 1: for you. 295 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:35,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, I have a question for you. Yeah, Chris, this 296 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:37,199 Speaker 3: is your podcast, but I do a question now. I've 297 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 3: always wanted this so back then, you know, Andrew is 298 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 3: similar to your age, right, the greatest host of all 299 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 3: time on television. How in the world did you host 300 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 3: a show, a dating show with somebody equal to you? 301 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 3: Because for me, I always looked at you as a 302 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 3: friend but also a mentor. You give me great advice. 303 00:12:57,760 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 3: I listened to what you had to say if it 304 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:02,320 Speaker 3: was on camera, off camera because of the age difference 305 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 3: and just to your but if you're looking at Andrew, 306 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 3: who I'm guessing a year or two. 307 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:08,960 Speaker 4: A party, it's a couple of years. But remember he 308 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:11,200 Speaker 4: was right where I wanted to be. Like, so he 309 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 4: was a couple of years older, married with a young son, 310 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 4: and so that was so like it was actually I 311 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 4: think the dynamic was perfect because that was kind of 312 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 4: like what I was looking, you know, to accomplish. Now. 313 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:26,080 Speaker 4: A lot of times the sincerity of the bachelor thing 314 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 4: gets drawn into question and I get that, you know whatever. 315 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:32,080 Speaker 4: But when I did, it was so long ago. I 316 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:34,320 Speaker 4: was im, you can ask my wife. I am a 317 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 4: I am a romantic, like I fully believe, and. 318 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 1: Like, yes you are, that's true. 319 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 4: So after I met her, of Anna, three months after 320 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 4: two and a half months after we met, we were 321 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 4: dating back and forth. She said, well, this isn't gonna work. 322 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:48,520 Speaker 4: We're going long term, you know, a long distance. It's 323 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 4: not going to work. So I up and moved. I 324 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:54,080 Speaker 4: literally moved to l A And like she's like, bang, 325 00:13:54,160 --> 00:14:02,319 Speaker 4: its just no. So like I go down there, how 326 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 4: many houses did I see before I bought one. I 327 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:06,719 Speaker 4: saw the first house I saw. I'm like, oh, does'll work. 328 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:09,600 Speaker 1: It's in the same City's like, oh my god, that's 329 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:11,720 Speaker 1: that's like, that's not romantic, that's stalker. 330 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:12,720 Speaker 2: It's not. It's not. 331 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:17,200 Speaker 1: It's like it's like there's a very thin line. He 332 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 1: watched it really well. He doesn't watch So I'm a 333 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 1: huge rom com fan. I love rom coms, and it 334 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 1: is funny how many rom comms you watch and you're like, 335 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 1: you know, is that romantic or is it like illegal? 336 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:31,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't get away with that. Like me, I 337 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 2: don't get away with that stuff. It's like some of 338 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 2: the stuff that John Hughes would pull in those movies. 339 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 1: You're like, ah, yeah, that's that's not healthy. 340 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 2: Those girls should have run. 341 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 3: But I agree with you because Chris gave me life 342 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 3: advice that I still quote and still live by today. 343 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 2: Like I've told him this a thousand times. 344 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 3: But the advice he gave me off camera in a 345 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:53,240 Speaker 3: bar over a glass of whiskey was use this whole 346 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 3: thing to enhance life. 347 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 2: Already had not change your life completely. 348 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 3: That is still not only when it comes to like 349 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 3: my faith tradition what I do. But it's still like 350 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 3: my career choices, like is this enhancing or is this 351 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 3: changing me? So I'm with you on like you looked 352 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 3: at him as okay, he has what like you are 353 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 3: looking for, so you can listen to him as equal partner, 354 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 3: you know, like he's got your back. But I did 355 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:20,240 Speaker 3: the same thing, you know, fifteen years later. But it's 356 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 3: interesting from your perspective on how did you do that 357 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:23,840 Speaker 3: with confidence? 358 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 1: It changed? It definitely changed because obviously I grew with 359 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 1: the show as well. I mean having when you're in 360 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 1: at five ten years. By the time you got on 361 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 1: the show, I'd been doing it so long. I was like, 362 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 1: I've been here, done that. I can help you navigate 363 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 1: this and work this through your life. With Andrew, like 364 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 1: when I'm with you and some of kind of the 365 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 1: younger bachelors, it is interesting. I feel like it's my 366 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 1: kids coming back from college, Like Joshua's home this summer, 367 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 1: Taylor's home the summer. I feel like they're adults, They're 368 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:53,000 Speaker 1: great people. I want to hang out with them, but 369 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 1: I'm still that kind of father figure, the adult in 370 00:15:56,600 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 1: the room with Bob Guiney with Andrew, with people that 371 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 1: we are definitely equals as far as our life and 372 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 1: our experiences. But yeah, I think it was I had 373 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:12,440 Speaker 1: that life experience of being married, being a dad, taking 374 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 1: those steps to get to that point. But I was 375 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 1: also a different I was a different host back then. 376 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:19,240 Speaker 1: I was more hosty. I was more listening to what 377 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:21,840 Speaker 1: the producers were telling me, as opposed to when you're 378 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 1: on then I'm producing myself and I'm hosting the show 379 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 1: kind of on my own. I would walk into the 380 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:29,840 Speaker 1: room and know exactly what you needed and what the 381 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 1: situation asked of me. With Andrew, I didn't know that 382 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 1: we were It was a lot of trial and error. 383 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 1: I mean they were It's like, you know, you know 384 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 1: how you say with the first the first kid you have, 385 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 1: you know, they're the first pancake. Sometimes they're uncooked, sometimes 386 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 1: they're overcooked. You're trying to figure it out, you know. 387 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 1: Sorry Brooks and sorry Joshua, but that's the way it goes. 388 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 1: That's how I felt with the early Bachelors. It's like, 389 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 1: you know, I did a good job, but it wasn't 390 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 1: the job I did later in life where I could 391 00:16:57,560 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 1: be a much better dad because I have great perspective 392 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 1: makes sense. And one of the things I remember with 393 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:06,479 Speaker 1: Andrew two things that never happened before and have never 394 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:10,400 Speaker 1: happened since. We were serving Night one really crappy wine 395 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:13,679 Speaker 1: because we're cheap as you know. It's like, you know, 396 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 1: the unlabeled horrible wine. The Firestone family makes incredible wines. 397 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:21,359 Speaker 1: Did they're out of the business now, but now they 398 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 1: make great beers. Go check out Firestone. But night one, 399 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:28,679 Speaker 1: Andrew woke up the next day and goes, hey, do 400 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 1: you guys mind if I bring my own wine and 401 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:34,800 Speaker 1: beer in Andy. We're like, Andrew, you don't understand, Like 402 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:37,800 Speaker 1: that's a lot, Like it's a lie there. There's twenty 403 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:40,399 Speaker 1: five girls here there. You know that's a lot you're asking. 404 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:43,440 Speaker 1: It's like, but I could do it. Like yeah. 405 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:45,679 Speaker 2: So the next morning I show up to work and 406 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 2: I literally can't get in the door. 407 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 1: There are pallets of Firestone wine and beer in front 408 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 1: of the front. 409 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:57,640 Speaker 2: Door, like ten feet high. I'm like, holy crap, that. 410 00:17:57,640 --> 00:17:58,119 Speaker 4: Is a boss. 411 00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 2: I kept everybody pretty buzz all the way through. That 412 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 2: is a boss move. That is awesome. That's a great story. 413 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:06,440 Speaker 2: And so we had Firestone beer. 414 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:08,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, and it was it was sort of a necessity. 415 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:10,919 Speaker 4: Not that I don't enjoy a nice cheap beer every 416 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:13,080 Speaker 4: once in a while, but like for the all the 417 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:14,360 Speaker 4: time I was going to be there, like it needed 418 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:16,399 Speaker 4: to be well stocked. So we got that taking care of. 419 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 4: My brother showed up the next day. He brought it 420 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:18,600 Speaker 4: Brun the Cavalry. 421 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:21,720 Speaker 1: It was amazing. And the other thing that I always 422 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:23,480 Speaker 1: loved about Andrew is when we got to the end, 423 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:28,240 Speaker 1: he demanded that he bought his own engagement ring. He 424 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:31,520 Speaker 1: got engaged, he got proposed to Jen Scheff, and Andrew said, 425 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 1: I will not take a free ring. I think it 426 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 1: was to Corey back then those who was Harry Winson, 427 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 1: it was Harry Wents okay, and so he's like, no, no, 428 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm paying for this, Like. 429 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 2: No, no, you don't understand how it works. The show pays 430 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:42,960 Speaker 2: for it, dude. 431 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:45,880 Speaker 1: He's like, no, no, if I'm getting engaged, I'm paying 432 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:46,280 Speaker 1: for the ring. 433 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 4: And that was it was also so I never I 434 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 4: never took a dime to be on the show, and 435 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 4: I never no compensation throughout the whole thing, like like 436 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:57,080 Speaker 4: it would come good or bad or whatever. I just 437 00:18:57,119 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 4: wanted it to be sincere and I want to be 438 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 4: authentic and like you can you can say you did 439 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:02,919 Speaker 4: like me, didn't like me, whatever else. But I was 440 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:05,600 Speaker 4: never unauthentic, like I was always my true self. 441 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 1: Like then a sellout. 442 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:14,960 Speaker 3: Yeah I took the ring, I got paid, I'm about it. 443 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:23,120 Speaker 4: But again, like when I I remember about Jason Carbone, 444 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:26,000 Speaker 4: I remember sitting, you know, after the last show or 445 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:28,440 Speaker 4: thing was filmed, whatever else, and I was like, yeah, 446 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:29,639 Speaker 4: this is probably the last time you guys do this. 447 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:30,920 Speaker 4: He's like, no, this is this show is gonna go 448 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:32,960 Speaker 4: on forever. I'm like, no, wait, people are not gonna 449 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 4: want to watch this, like what it already happened two 450 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 4: and so. So I remember clearly thinking like this is 451 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 4: this is sort of it and this was like and 452 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 4: I'm not a TV guy, you know, Like I'm like, 453 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:45,440 Speaker 4: this is this is so going out on a limb 454 00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:46,720 Speaker 4: for me. And I didn't think he was gonna watch 455 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 4: it anyway. But still the only thing that I could 456 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:51,960 Speaker 4: control was my own like my own personality, my own 457 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:54,640 Speaker 4: person was coming through there, and I wasn't gonna change 458 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 4: it or adjust it to make a show popular unpopular, 459 00:19:57,920 --> 00:19:59,679 Speaker 4: get more viewers. It didn't matter to me, Like the 460 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 4: if one person watched it. If thirty million people watched 461 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 4: it didn't matter. But you know, I knew that, like 462 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 4: I had to be honest with myself. But ironically, so 463 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:09,719 Speaker 4: Ivon and I were down in LA last night and 464 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 4: we walked by the Harry Winston and we told that 465 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 4: exact same story last night, and I said, yeah, you know, 466 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:17,200 Speaker 4: I I just paid for the rink they gave me. 467 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:18,719 Speaker 1: You know, it was it was great because I had 468 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 1: a deal in my contract where if the Batcher did 469 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:22,439 Speaker 1: all that, I got that money. 470 00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:28,240 Speaker 2: So I sent my kids to college. But again, that's 471 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:29,120 Speaker 2: that's that's the. 472 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:30,919 Speaker 1: Old school version of the show where we were all 473 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:34,879 Speaker 1: figuring it out, versus it became a machine and became 474 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:37,960 Speaker 1: an industry by the time you came along, and we 475 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:40,360 Speaker 1: had it down for better and for worse, by the way, 476 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:42,960 Speaker 1: for much better. We were better facilitating the show and 477 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 1: helping people through it and helping people after I mean, 478 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 1: after Andrew was done, it was like, bye, the show's 479 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 1: over by But. 480 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 4: Actually, to be honest, it wasn't that unfortunately, because I'm 481 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:56,119 Speaker 4: not for you, no, no, no, it was crazy. So so 482 00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 4: the show's done and like I'm like, were re released 483 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:01,199 Speaker 4: into the wild and so I'm going back to my 484 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:02,760 Speaker 4: normal life. And I was working for the winery then, 485 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:05,600 Speaker 4: and I do things like winemaker dinners I do. I 486 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:08,080 Speaker 4: was in sales, I was selling my family's wine. And 487 00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 4: they're like, well, no, you really can't do that, and no, 488 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:12,959 Speaker 4: you can't do that wine maker dinner, Mike, what are 489 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:14,879 Speaker 4: you talking about? Like, well, no, that's that's part of 490 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:18,240 Speaker 4: our you know, our franchise. I'm like, bullshit, this is 491 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 4: my livelihood. 492 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 2: This is what I do. 493 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 4: So, you know, they were so controlling or try to 494 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:26,119 Speaker 4: be controlling afterwards of what I did or didn't do. 495 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:28,679 Speaker 4: And again I didn't do anything else really in television. 496 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 4: Occasionally I would do a you know, pop up on 497 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 4: you know, on the mentel all or whatever else, but 498 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 4: really I kind of disappeared back to what was my 499 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:38,160 Speaker 4: own life, and they were trying to like control what 500 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:38,679 Speaker 4: that was. 501 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 1: You get those wonderful threatening calls from the lawyers. 502 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 4: Well one and my brother was like, Okay, if you 503 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 4: really want to do this, we can do this. But 504 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:49,160 Speaker 4: you picked a guy that was you filmed at our winery. 505 00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:51,359 Speaker 4: You promoted that, you know, the fact that this was 506 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:54,360 Speaker 4: a wine making family, that this was a legacy family, 507 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:56,399 Speaker 4: and now you want to not let him do that, right, 508 00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:59,359 Speaker 4: they they ran into the wrong family. Yeah, it was 509 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 4: much my brother would have relished that time. My brother, 510 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 4: who many of people in that watched my season got 511 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:07,000 Speaker 4: to know a little bit. He is a very. 512 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:13,000 Speaker 1: Guy, a knife to a gunfight. When they came, he's 513 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 1: in the Marine Corps. So like, you don't want to 514 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 1: mess with my brother, unlike when they came after mister Higgins. 515 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, they have. Yeah, but they didn't care that 516 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 2: much about software sales. For some reason, they didn't get 517 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 2: any hard time. They really they really ripped me apart 518 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:28,479 Speaker 2: for user manual writing. 519 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:32,639 Speaker 4: But there was there was one in particular with this, 520 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:34,119 Speaker 4: you know, it was a you know, this event that 521 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:35,720 Speaker 4: we did every year, and they're like, well, I don't 522 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:37,639 Speaker 4: think it's a good idea that you're that you're promoted on. 523 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 1: I don't remember asking you exactly. I love that we're 524 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:54,480 Speaker 1: all together for this event tonight. It was great, we're 525 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:56,920 Speaker 1: going to Brett Young. Are you going to change? 526 00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:59,960 Speaker 2: Yeah? I thought I am okay. Yeah, because I am okay, 527 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 2: I was. I took a nap before this. I was 528 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 2: watching the PGA Championship. 529 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 4: Is there a smaller pair of shorts you can wear? 530 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:06,520 Speaker 4: Is this long? 531 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:09,439 Speaker 2: I just haven't pulled up because this is I. 532 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:11,080 Speaker 4: Can literally see your lunges through that. 533 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:14,399 Speaker 2: Thank god, this isn't TV. Beginning this close. This has 534 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:16,359 Speaker 2: turned into a Siginfeld episode. 535 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:18,399 Speaker 1: And you know when the when the guy wore the 536 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:20,919 Speaker 1: jogging shorts and he's like, so, you guys can't say this, 537 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:23,280 Speaker 1: but Ben's right in front of me, He's in it, and. 538 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 3: It's I was just trying to size up is my wife? 539 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:29,159 Speaker 3: Both of those is trying to let him know, you know. 540 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:33,160 Speaker 2: And both of us are oddly turned on. Rushmore us more. 541 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:38,960 Speaker 1: By the way, Uh, congratulations to you. You are now 542 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:42,680 Speaker 1: officially the first person who's ever repeated as a guest 543 00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:43,480 Speaker 1: on my podcast. 544 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 2: Are you serious? 545 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:46,320 Speaker 1: Do we have the steak knives for Ben? Do we 546 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 1: have the steak knives? 547 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:47,600 Speaker 2: Oh? 548 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:49,480 Speaker 1: That's so you get a free set of steak knives. 549 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:51,800 Speaker 1: So you know, there is a butter knife from the Rose. 550 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:54,679 Speaker 1: My first, and I'm gonna cost us nine hundred dollars 551 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:55,760 Speaker 1: and this is my first. 552 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:57,600 Speaker 4: I'm like ninety nine percent sure that none of this 553 00:23:57,600 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 4: stuff is even plugged in, like you're just doing me 554 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 4: a favorite. 555 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:00,640 Speaker 1: Totally. 556 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 2: This is an Aaron, you came to my hometown. I'm 557 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:05,320 Speaker 2: waiting till you leave the room and we can actually 558 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:05,720 Speaker 2: tape this. 559 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:08,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, but I'm glad we all got together and I'm 560 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:11,080 Speaker 1: glad you I'm glad you two again. One of the 561 00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:13,359 Speaker 1: things I love about this show and I'll always remember 562 00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:15,480 Speaker 1: about it is just the connections and the people we've met, 563 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 1: and the fact that we're all going to hang out 564 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,119 Speaker 1: tonight and drank way too much tequila and have a 565 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:22,160 Speaker 1: great time is one of my favorite things. And it's 566 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:24,880 Speaker 1: been a great day. I played golf with Wells Adams 567 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:25,840 Speaker 1: down and that was the last. 568 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:27,639 Speaker 4: Time we were together. Was playing golf up up in 569 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:28,200 Speaker 4: Pebble Beach. 570 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:30,480 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we have right. We all did play at 571 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:33,400 Speaker 1: Pebble Beach. I remember winning that day. But you saw 572 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 1: Wells this morning. Get to hang out with you guys today. 573 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:36,400 Speaker 1: It's it's awesome. 574 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:39,480 Speaker 2: He did win that day. 575 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:42,520 Speaker 1: One of those things about a buch of fun dad strength, 576 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:44,119 Speaker 1: where it's just like I just always kind of get 577 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:45,160 Speaker 1: in Yell's head and went alone. 578 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:47,399 Speaker 3: You know, Chris is a good golfer, And now I'm 579 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:48,760 Speaker 3: not gonna bore everybody with golf talk. 580 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:50,440 Speaker 2: We just played in Orlando. This year. 581 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:53,280 Speaker 3: He came to this great event that uh in Orlando 582 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:54,720 Speaker 3: that we do and Wells and I've played in the 583 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:58,920 Speaker 3: year before. Chris comes this year and UH and beats 584 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 3: us both solidly. Uh, even not playing his best golf, 585 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:06,000 Speaker 3: he goes and beats Wells today. He beat up beat 586 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:10,199 Speaker 3: me in pebble there like my dad, I love dearly. 587 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 3: Not the best golfer, good golfer, not the best. There 588 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:15,520 Speaker 3: is something about Chris where if I looked at like 589 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:17,919 Speaker 3: a second mentor somebody has had a big impact in 590 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:20,960 Speaker 3: my life, Chris would be right there right that I 591 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:23,960 Speaker 3: just can't beat him. And I want to destroy him 592 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 3: at a sport. I want to, like, I mean when 593 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:27,959 Speaker 3: I stand on a golf course with him, especially, like 594 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:29,240 Speaker 3: I want him to go down. 595 00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:33,720 Speaker 2: And there's just something about him that just never lets me. Yeah, 596 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:36,000 Speaker 2: it just makes me mad. 597 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:40,080 Speaker 1: Well, we'll do a bench off. As I look at 598 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 1: your left testicle right now and those shorts, Quin, I 599 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:47,320 Speaker 1: didn't know what to do. I don't look what are 600 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:50,080 Speaker 1: with my hands, I don't what to do. I have 601 00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:51,879 Speaker 1: to ask you one serious question before we wrap up. 602 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:52,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's up. 603 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:56,639 Speaker 1: Because I've heard I've heard grumblings and rumblings. So The 604 00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:59,920 Speaker 1: Bachelor announced they're finally going to do this elder boxer show. 605 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:01,639 Speaker 1: It was a show I was going to host and 606 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:04,920 Speaker 1: do pre pandemic. Obviously, with writers strike, they're bringing the 607 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:09,840 Speaker 1: show back. Are you going to host? Would you host? 608 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:11,439 Speaker 1: Because you should host? 609 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:15,840 Speaker 2: So here's my honest answer. I would love that show. 610 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:18,000 Speaker 3: And I think you know me well enough to know that, like, 611 00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:20,119 Speaker 3: that would be my dream show, Like I can't. 612 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:22,200 Speaker 2: You're agreaet with older people. I'm great with older. 613 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:24,880 Speaker 3: People, like you feed me my old meal every day. 614 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:30,879 Speaker 3: I'd want your advice, I'd want your opinion. If they asked, 615 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 3: I would love to be involved. I think it's a 616 00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:35,439 Speaker 3: good show and I think it I think it is 617 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:36,879 Speaker 3: what the franchise needs. 618 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 2: It takes away so much of what. 619 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 3: Is going on currently and focuses on love stories again, 620 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:47,879 Speaker 3: which I think is we've missed in the last three years. 621 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:50,199 Speaker 2: So I know I've not been asked. I haven't been 622 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 2: asked one thing about it. 623 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:53,679 Speaker 3: I am literally just saying I like the idea of 624 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:55,639 Speaker 3: a bunch of people telling their stories again, which I 625 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:58,120 Speaker 3: think is what I when I was on the show. 626 00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:00,960 Speaker 3: What you love is the human experience back when we 627 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:04,000 Speaker 3: told stories, back when we told stories, and that's what 628 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:07,119 Speaker 3: I would be about, is the story behind it. I 629 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:10,400 Speaker 3: have as much idea about the show as any other 630 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:11,080 Speaker 3: fan does. 631 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:14,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, so I think that's It's my guess is that's 632 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:16,960 Speaker 1: the same as everybody. They have no idea what the 633 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:18,720 Speaker 1: show is going to be yet, because they've just announced it. 634 00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 1: I mean, and a lot of this came out of 635 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:21,879 Speaker 1: the writer's strike. It probably would never have gone if 636 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:23,479 Speaker 1: it hadn't been for the writer's strike. But there's such 637 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:25,679 Speaker 1: a need for unscripted So the show is going to go, 638 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:28,240 Speaker 1: and it'll go in the fall. It'll be tough sledding, 639 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:31,280 Speaker 1: but I think it would be a great announcement. Like, 640 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:32,440 Speaker 1: I think it'd be fantastic. 641 00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:35,840 Speaker 3: It's it's similar to how I view it is. I 642 00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:38,080 Speaker 3: have not done really anything with the show since my 643 00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:40,720 Speaker 3: time as the Bachelor. Yeah, and I've moved on with 644 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 3: my life. This is the only thing that's ever came 645 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:44,159 Speaker 3: about where I was like, I would love that. I 646 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:45,720 Speaker 3: didn't want to be I didn't want to take over. 647 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:48,679 Speaker 3: I never made a phone call and never made a text. 648 00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:50,760 Speaker 2: Never want to do that. It'd be similar to well, 649 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:53,320 Speaker 2: the one that didn't I did not. Yeah, I'm the 650 00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:54,000 Speaker 2: one person. Yeah. 651 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,000 Speaker 1: Actually the two guys that didn't call for your job 652 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 1: are probably sitting right here. 653 00:27:57,320 --> 00:28:02,359 Speaker 3: How I view is Wells Adams, Wells Adams should do 654 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:06,639 Speaker 3: like Wells is paradise right, Like that dude fits perfectly there. 655 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:10,200 Speaker 2: This feels like me. I'm old, like in my soul 656 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:12,760 Speaker 2: like I'm old. Yeah he is. He's like an eighty 657 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:14,040 Speaker 2: five year old man. Yeah I am. 658 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:17,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, And so I think it would just be really 659 00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:19,359 Speaker 3: fun for me to do. I don't know if it 660 00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:21,480 Speaker 3: will ever happen, but I would love I would be 661 00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:23,840 Speaker 3: really excited if it did. And but I the first 662 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:26,440 Speaker 3: phone call i'd make, I've always already thought about it 663 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:28,159 Speaker 3: would be to you to say should I do this? 664 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:29,879 Speaker 3: And what would be your advice? I would love for 665 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:31,359 Speaker 3: you to do it. Yeah, And you know I'd be 666 00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:34,000 Speaker 3: on board and I would help you ever. I have 667 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:34,920 Speaker 3: no I have no doubt. 668 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:36,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll be in your ear. I would come in 669 00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:38,000 Speaker 1: the control room and I would just talk in your ear. 670 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:42,680 Speaker 2: It feels like a good bad and say, Ben. 671 00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:45,680 Speaker 1: You shouldn't have worn short shorts today. Andrew fire Stone, 672 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:48,200 Speaker 1: Ben Higgins, thank you, guys, thank you. We have to 673 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:50,480 Speaker 1: wrap up because, uh, we have a great dinner to 674 00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:52,720 Speaker 1: go to. We got a bread young concert to go to, 675 00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:54,840 Speaker 1: we have cocktails to partake in. 676 00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:57,360 Speaker 4: We're gonna set a record for how much money we 677 00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:01,320 Speaker 4: can spend for iHeartRadio. Like the most expensive hotel in 678 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:03,200 Speaker 4: the universe, and now we're gonna go to the most 679 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:04,800 Speaker 4: expensive restaurant in the universe. 680 00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:06,640 Speaker 2: To know what I love? What is it? 681 00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:08,920 Speaker 3: Used to just be almost famous that would have to 682 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:11,160 Speaker 3: cover this tab. Now Chris has his own podcast and 683 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:13,440 Speaker 3: he has to watch the money just to fly off. 684 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 4: I'm gonna take Colossi of Soul Bottles and just knock 685 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:18,000 Speaker 4: them over. 686 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,800 Speaker 1: I love you guys, Thanks for being here, Thanks for listening. 687 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:24,600 Speaker 1: Follow us on Instagram at the most dramatic pod ever, 688 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 1: and make sure to write us a review and leave 689 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:29,240 Speaker 1: us five stars. I'll talk to you next time.