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Speaker 2: we live in the Sunshine State, the great state of Florida.
Speaker 2: I've been here for thirty plus years. You were born
Speaker 2: here and raised here. New Lieutenant governor appointed just a
Speaker 2: couple of weeks ago, Jay Collins a real badass. Now
Speaker 2: it's hard to think of politicians as being a badass.
Speaker 3: Well especially lieutenant governors, because like it's like lieutenant governor
Speaker 3: is kind of like vice president but worse.
Speaker 2: You know, it's like, what do you actually do?
Speaker 3: Florida has been famous for not having one for an
Speaker 3: extended period of time, so that we have one, it
Speaker 3: was news a couple of weeks ago, but then when
Speaker 3: they picked the one they picked, it became even more newsworthy.
Speaker 3: And he's been to work quickly.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So Jay Collins is a former Green Beret. He's
Speaker 2: been a state senator. He's introduced and passed great legislation
Speaker 2: that we're going to talk about. But we want to
Speaker 2: talk to him first of all about what's going on
Speaker 2: with regards to illegal immigration in the state of Florida
Speaker 2: and the initiatives that are taking place there. Lieutenant Governor
Speaker 2: Collins how are you.
Speaker 1: I'm doing well. Thank you for having me on today.
Speaker 2: So tell us we had this terrible tragedy in the
Speaker 2: Florida Highway where three in some people died. You had
Speaker 2: this migrant illegally in the country who took that incredible
Speaker 2: U turn in traffic. Three people died. You actually went
Speaker 2: and brought him back to the state of Florida to
Speaker 2: face justice. You essentially purp walked him off of the
Speaker 2: plane and you said, there's absolutely no leniency for what
Speaker 2: he did. Tell us why this issue is so important
Speaker 2: to you, and what are the some of the tangible
Speaker 2: things that the state of Florida is doing that's different
Speaker 2: compared to a lot of other states around the country.
Speaker 1: Well, hey, that's a great question, and let's just kind
Speaker 1: of start with where this thing all began. Three innocent
Speaker 1: lives were ended early because of somebody who crossed over
Speaker 1: the California border in twenty eighteen illegally gained the asylum
Speaker 1: system in a state that we know, frankly cares more
Speaker 1: about legal immigrants than they do Californians American citizens, and
Speaker 1: certainly obviously don't care what happened in Florida to our people.
Speaker 1: But we do so. Yes, absolutely, I had no faith
Speaker 1: nor did the governor, to see that Gavin Newsom was
Speaker 1: going to follow along do the right thing. So we
Speaker 1: went over there, we held the press conference, we talked
Speaker 1: about it, we made sure that everyone knew we were there,
Speaker 1: and then we made sure this got brought back because
Speaker 1: what I want our people to know is that our
Speaker 1: government is going to go over there. We're going to
Speaker 1: stand for them and make sure that somebody faces justice.
Speaker 1: Because what if that was your loved one. What if
Speaker 1: that was your neighbor, someone you knew, and they lost
Speaker 1: their life and they were playing the game with the
Speaker 1: asylum system, or in California or New Mexico or some
Speaker 1: other liberal statement just doesn't want to follow President Trump's agenda,
Speaker 1: Donald Governor of Stantus's agenda, or frankly just basic common sense.
Speaker 1: Somebody has to lead, and we are the conservative proving
Speaker 1: grounds of America. And that's what we did.
Speaker 3: Now, you guys have been leading, not just in terms
Speaker 3: of being aggressive to go retrieve this individual. Wall Street
Speaker 3: Journal chronicled the efforts to deputize members of the Florida
Speaker 3: State Highway Patrol to be kind of the boots on
Speaker 3: the ground as part of the immigration enforcement. Obviously, there's
Speaker 3: been the Alligator Alcatraz that's been now they're fighting over
Speaker 3: in court, but that's gotten a lot of headlines as well.
Speaker 3: Why is immigration such a big issue to your administration now?
Speaker 1: Well, look, the American people made this completely clear. They
Speaker 1: want the illegal immigration problem taken care of. That was
Speaker 1: made clear when President Trump won with an overwhelming majority.
Speaker 1: And where are we at, well here or we take
Speaker 1: that seriously? We think that when the American people implority
Speaker 1: and say they want to taken care of, well, we're
Speaker 1: going to do that. Our two eighty seven g agreements
Speaker 1: they lead the way across every state. You saw Alligator Alcatraz.
Speaker 1: As you mentioned, deportation depot. We're out there actively working
Speaker 1: with our highway patrol or other law enforcement because as
Speaker 1: required for them to work with our federal assets to
Speaker 1: keep this thing moving forward. Ultimately, you know, everything we
Speaker 1: do keeps our people safer. And I really wish other
Speaker 1: governors would step up and stand up for their people
Speaker 1: and do the same thing. How much better would our
Speaker 1: nation be if they took this opportunity with leadership by
Speaker 1: President Trump pushed down to have the state support them.
Speaker 1: We can really make a difference and follow through on
Speaker 1: the exact same things we said we were going to do.
Speaker 1: That's what people want to see, and that's what leadership
Speaker 1: is all about.
Speaker 3: And I know leaderships are very important issue to you.
Speaker 3: And it's weird. You know, you're a lieutenant governor now
Speaker 3: you've been in the legislature. For a politician or a
Speaker 3: bureaucrat a tough day, it can be like back back teams,
Speaker 3: meetings with an ornery it department or something. But for you, you,
Speaker 3: I know, as the state senator, you went to Israel
Speaker 3: at when the Iran Israel conflict was at its height,
Speaker 3: and you went there to try to rescue and help
Speaker 3: get people that were over there who might have been
Speaker 3: harm's way back home to safety. Talk about that. What
Speaker 3: motivated you to do that and what's that like? Just
Speaker 3: I mean, we've heard stories, but I know that was
Speaker 3: something that was very important to you and why you
Speaker 3: felt like you needed to.
Speaker 1: Do it, And Eric, thank you for that. Look, I'm
Speaker 1: going to quote some of my liberal colleagues from California
Speaker 1: right who serve in the legislature and other roles. I
Speaker 1: don't identify as a politician. I identify as God fearing gun,
Speaker 1: loving freedom, defending bacon eating one legged retired Green Beret.
Speaker 1: I mean, the leadership comes from the front. We put
Speaker 1: our people first, and you got to put your money
Speaker 1: and your butt where your mouth is. So that's what
Speaker 1: we did. I sow it Israel because what if that
Speaker 1: was my loved one, What if my children life, We're
Speaker 1: trapped in the country with Iran shooting nobilistic missiles at them.
Speaker 1: I would hope and pray that our leadership stood up
Speaker 1: and did that. And I love how the Trump team,
Speaker 1: how President Trump has pushed down emergencies to the States.
Speaker 1: This was an emergency. He has clearly said the States
Speaker 1: would step up and lead. And that's what we did.
Speaker 1: We partnered with them, we worked beside them, and ultimately
Speaker 1: brought them back right here to Florida. And it wasn't
Speaker 1: just Floridians. We brought back over twenty three hundred American
Speaker 1: citizens that are safer got to see their families because
Speaker 1: we took the opportunity given us to step up and
Speaker 1: fight for our people and bring them home. How many
Speaker 1: more can we have brought back if other governors would
Speaker 1: have done the right thing and stood up for their
Speaker 1: people the same way.
Speaker 2: Well, Lieutenant Governor, you were there and it was a
Speaker 2: war zone. So I have to tell you I've never
Speaker 2: been in a war zone. I don't want to be
Speaker 2: in a war zone. What does a missile actually sound like?
Speaker 2: What does it feel like to be in a situation
Speaker 2: where missiles are being fired at the location where you
Speaker 2: happen to be.
Speaker 1: Well, I'll tell you this was kind of like an
Speaker 1: old pair of boots. I gotta be honest when I
Speaker 1: tell you I didn't want to run for politics or
Speaker 1: getting involved in politics. I really meant that I'm here
Speaker 1: because I saw no other way to solve problems. I
Speaker 1: believe in making a difference for our people, and you
Speaker 1: can't stand on the sideline. We are just at that
Speaker 1: point in life and I've been shot at and I've
Speaker 1: been shot by a couple of things. This is my
Speaker 1: first time with ballistic missiles. Shared the noise they might
Speaker 1: coming across the sky is unlike anything I had seen.
Speaker 1: Explosions are pretty amazing. We had some land within a
Speaker 1: few hundred feet of us. There was going everywhere, you know.
Speaker 1: Luckily in Israel there were bunkers and bomb shelters. We
Speaker 1: got people in there, but the risk is very real.
Speaker 1: We were out there with a group of people just
Speaker 1: trying to get them on the buses to drive to
Speaker 1: the Georganian border, and we had a bunch of our
Speaker 1: running missiles start hitting the ground around us. So mid
Speaker 1: stride we had to get them in the bunker, get safe,
Speaker 1: and I'm popping up checking to see, you know, what
Speaker 1: are we done, what's going on? Get updates and they're
Speaker 1: still coming. The barrage was real, but you know what,
Speaker 1: we did what we had to do. Because after it
Speaker 1: was done, we dust it off, we collected our stuff,
Speaker 1: we got back on mission, We got him on a bus,
Speaker 1: and we got them back to America safely with their families.
Speaker 1: Because again, that's the kind of leadership we need to
Speaker 1: have in this country. People are tired of politicians you
Speaker 1: say one thing and do another. I want to be,
Speaker 1: and I have been, as a leader, someone who says
Speaker 1: what I mean. I mean what I say, and I
Speaker 1: follow it up with actions. That's the American way.
Speaker 3: So some of your actions are, in my opinion, Lieutenant
Speaker 3: Governor Collins, among the more interesting and important parts of
Speaker 3: your story. And if you're just joining in, if you're
Speaker 3: not sure, who's the voice that is that's Lieutenant Governor
Speaker 3: Jay Collins. He's only on the job as Lieutenant governor
Speaker 3: under Rond DeSantis for a couple of weeks, using the
Speaker 3: state legislature before that.
Speaker 2: But your story.
Speaker 3: You are a Green Beret, You're in Afghanistan, you were
Speaker 3: part of a firefight, and you suffered an injury that
Speaker 3: ultimately led to the loss of your leg. And not
Speaker 3: to focus on because you're the one said you're a
Speaker 3: one legged Green Beret, but it's not like it was instantaneous.
Speaker 3: Just talk a little bit about the process that ultimately
Speaker 3: led you to make this incredible decision you chose to
Speaker 3: have your leg amputated, and then talk about what happened
Speaker 3: to you after that.
Speaker 4: So I did.
Speaker 1: I had been hurt in two thousand and seven and
Speaker 1: it was kind of a rough year. I got shot,
Speaker 1: ended up doing surgery on myself in Afghanistan. I did
Speaker 1: a fasciotomy on my arm, saved my arm. But I
Speaker 1: do have two arms and one leg, so I must
Speaker 1: have done. I did. Okay, I'm pretty pretty comfortable with
Speaker 1: that one. And then later on I got hit by
Speaker 1: a mortar when they were trying to overrun our firebase,
Speaker 1: and again apparently getting blown up is bad for you.
Speaker 1: Who knew, right, I didn't know what it happened, because
Speaker 1: when you're fighting for your life, you fight for your life.
Speaker 1: If it's a no fail mission, you don't fail. Fought
Speaker 1: and we won, and we pushed the enemy out and
Speaker 1: didn't really realize how badly I had been hurt. You know,
Speaker 1: I had a headache, dusted it off, got happy and healthy,
Speaker 1: and just did what we had to do. But as
Speaker 1: time went on, it was a very insidious breakdown of
Speaker 1: my leg. Eventually I started having weird pains and my leg.
Speaker 1: I would want to go left and it wouldn't go left,
Speaker 1: it would go right, or it would not work at all,
Speaker 1: and I'd trip and fall. And you know, it was
Speaker 1: hard to understand because I had been in a very
Speaker 1: select group of people where my physicality was really how
Speaker 1: I did things and how I got by. And you know, Eric,
Speaker 1: You've heard me say this many times. Man, God's plan
Speaker 1: is so much bigger than our plan. All I wanted
Speaker 1: to do was be a Green Beret, or fight amongst
Speaker 1: the very select people to tip of the speirarit doing
Speaker 1: things for our country nobody knew about. But that wasn't
Speaker 1: God's plan. I got injured and I had to learn
Speaker 1: to use other skills and accept help and get up
Speaker 1: in a new way. And that's what I had to do.
Speaker 1: So over the next six and a half years or so,
Speaker 1: I went through a slow manifestation of my leg dying.
Speaker 1: I went through multiple surgeries and multiple exams and a
Speaker 1: lot of misdiagnosis before they figured out what was going on.
Speaker 1: And in twenty fourteen they cut my leg off and
Speaker 1: about a year about a year later, I requalified as
Speaker 1: a Green Beret. I was found fully fit for duty,
Speaker 1: and I had to earn my place back in our
Speaker 1: tribe because in that regiment, and as a Green Beret,
Speaker 1: there's only one standard. And I got to say, I
Speaker 1: am so grateful for the people who gave me the
Speaker 1: opportunity to prove myself because I didn't want it given.
Speaker 1: I had to earn it, and anything of value you
Speaker 1: have to earn. And again, so grateful that people gave
Speaker 1: me the chance to do that, because again there's some
Speaker 1: culpability with me as well. I should have taken a
Speaker 1: knee and I should have faced out. I should have
Speaker 1: realized that when things hurt and they didn't work, maybe
Speaker 1: I should quit. But when you reach a pinnacle of
Speaker 1: an organization like these, the last thing you want to
Speaker 1: do is leave. And not five besides your brother, not
Speaker 1: five beside the people who you would give your life for.
Speaker 1: In an instant and Adam.
Speaker 2: Well, Lieutenant Governor Jay Collins, it's great to have you on.
Speaker 2: We've got thirty seconds left. I want to ask you,
Speaker 2: are you going to run for governor of the State
Speaker 2: of Florida.
Speaker 1: Well, I'll tell you what I think. We're going on
Speaker 1: two weeks now. That's a great question. I am trying
Speaker 1: to be the best lieutenant governor I can be for
Speaker 1: the goat for America's Governor Ron DeSantis, finally getting my
Speaker 1: foot weg the other one too, and trying to make
Speaker 1: a difference. We'll continue to assess, but in the end,
Speaker 1: I'm really hyper focused on my job as lieutenant governor
Speaker 1: right now.
Speaker 2: Well, as we said, a true badass for Lieutenant governor
Speaker 2: of the State of Florida. Jay Collins, thanks for joining us.
Speaker 2: We appreciate you in the audience listening as well. We
Speaker 2: will be back in a minute. We've got more guests,
Speaker 2: We've got more conversation. The next hour we're going to
Speaker 2: have at the bottom of that hour in NFL, so
Speaker 2: please stay tuned.
Speaker 3: Welcome back to the Sean Handy Show. Peter Schweizer, Eric
Speaker 3: Eggers back in for Seawan. We're having a very important
Speaker 3: conversation about law and order. And you just heard from
Speaker 3: Lieutenant Governor Florida J. Collins, you know, who has served
Speaker 3: in the military, and they have deputized some of their
Speaker 3: own state law enforcement officials to be the boots on
Speaker 3: the ground for the federal level of ice enforcement. But
Speaker 3: another thing that Florida is doing is they are attracting
Speaker 3: law enforcement officials from around the country. We talked about
Speaker 3: one of New York's having a big cop shortage right
Speaker 3: down it's about to get worse. Thirty seven hundred troops
Speaker 3: become eligible for their twenty year pension I think this year,
Speaker 3: and a lot of those people are leaving cities where
Speaker 3: they feel like the leadership is hospible law enforcement and
Speaker 3: going to places like Florida where that leadership is much
Speaker 3: more pro A police officer.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so what do you think out there? Do you
Speaker 2: think we need more cops on the street. Do you
Speaker 2: feel like America's cities are safe? Join the conversation one
Speaker 2: eight hundred ninety four one seven three two six ninety
Speaker 2: four to one. SHO, we'd love to hear your opinions
Speaker 2: and thoughts on that. Seems like a lot of the
Speaker 2: elites are saying crimes aren't an issue, carjackings aren't a problem,
Speaker 2: just accept it and live with it. I'm wondering if
Speaker 2: that's your experience out there in the audience, or if
Speaker 2: you have a different perspective on crime.
Speaker 3: It was interesting to hear Harmey Dillon with the Attorney
Speaker 3: General's Office say that it's because those liberal elites tend
Speaker 3: to live in places where crime is not much of
Speaker 3: an issue. It's kind of one of those bonfire the vanities.
Speaker 3: To use a reference from some literary and cinematic by
Speaker 3: the way, pretty good, but I do think that, you know,
Speaker 3: she sounds like they're not super eager, at least in
Speaker 3: the Attorney General's Office to make the people like JB.
Speaker 3: Pritzker or Brandon Johnson Chicago, or the mayor of Baltimore
Speaker 3: take the troops from the federal level take accept military
Speaker 3: assistance even though it's obviously having a profound and beneficial
Speaker 3: impact in Washington, DC. Two weeks without a murder. All
Speaker 3: the major crime statistics are down across the board.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just don't understand the notion. I mean, we
Speaker 2: hear this all the time, and I tend to agree
Speaker 2: with it. When when a child dies, you know, they
Speaker 2: say one death is too much, When a homeless person dies,
Speaker 2: one person is too much. But when it comes to crime,
Speaker 2: innocent people getting carjacked, getting killed, it's not so bad,
Speaker 2: it's acceptable. It's just weird to me, this blind spot
Speaker 2: that they have for crime. Maybe I'm the one out
Speaker 2: of touch. Maybe people out there in America aren't concerned
Speaker 2: about it, but I think we should be. And I
Speaker 2: think the numbers, they oftentimes lie about the numbers, they
Speaker 2: manipulate the numbers, And I think the perception that people
Speaker 2: have is correct, which is that's a serious problem.
Speaker 3: Well, if Donald Trump can do for America's crime what
Speaker 3: he did for the Cracker Broll logo, we'll all be
Speaker 3: a lot safer at night. We'll continue that conversation. He's
Speaker 3: Peter Schwizer, I'm Eric Eggers. This is the Sean Handy Show.
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Speaker 2: Sean Hannity is on right now, Hey as Peter Schweizer,
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Speaker 2: Join the conversation. One eight hundred ninety four one seven, three,
Speaker 2: two six, nine four one Sean. Very busy news day.
Speaker 2: We have the tragedy in Minnesota, the shooting that's taking
Speaker 2: place there. We have the controversy over a crime and
Speaker 2: the deployment of the National Guard. Just saw that Vladimir
Speaker 2: Putin is now threatening to march on Paris. I don't
Speaker 2: know how that is going to go, but we want
Speaker 2: to hear what you think about the crime problem in America.
Speaker 2: And coming up in the next hour, we have a
Speaker 2: couple of really terrific guests, so you'll want to stay tuned.
Speaker 2: Josh Cherard is going to join us. He's the director
Speaker 2: of law enforcement for Berna, but we're going to have
Speaker 2: him on because he's a former law enforcement officer, He's
Speaker 2: been at the scene of shootings. We're going to go
Speaker 2: greater and into depth what actually happened in Minneapolis and
Speaker 2: how they might be prevented and then at five point thirty,
Speaker 2: we have an NFL legend. I remember watching this guy
Speaker 2: when I was young in the eighties and high school
Speaker 2: and college. Mike Singletary of du Bears of Chicago Hall
Speaker 2: of Fame linebacker. He is going to give us, I think,
Speaker 2: an encouraging note about character, value and hard work and
Speaker 2: the importance of all of those to the future of
Speaker 2: our country. Something inspiring as we get ready for labor deck.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well it's football season too, right, So if you're
Speaker 3: getting sad and a little frustrated here, as often people
Speaker 3: do when you listen to programs like this, it can
Speaker 3: be easy to become discouraged. And so I know Mike
Speaker 3: Singletary has a book out about that. He's meant to
Speaker 3: inspire every generation, give people something to kind of aspire
Speaker 3: to the vision that their life is meant to be.
Speaker 3: It's a really cool thing. He's got some cool stories
Speaker 3: about that. He's also newly with the Baylor radio program.
Speaker 3: So maybe we'll get a little bit of a college
Speaker 3: football because college football starts tonight. I know, we were joking.
Speaker 3: In the last segment of every show, Sean normally talks
Speaker 3: about what he's going to do on his television show
Speaker 3: that night. Yeah, fun fact about Peter Schwarz and me.
Speaker 3: We don't have TV shows, so we're like, what should
Speaker 3: we talk about in the last segment? For me, it's football.
Speaker 3: For me, it's football. You got Florida State play in
Speaker 3: Alabama this weekend. We finally get revenge being snubbed in
Speaker 3: the playoff couple of years ago. But no, but we
Speaker 3: do want to talk to you, so give us a call.
Speaker 3: It one eight hundred and nine four one sean one
Speaker 3: eight hundred and nine one seven three two six. And
Speaker 3: we have someone who's called in about the law enforcement.
Speaker 3: We have Patty from Florida, the Great Free State of Florida. Patty,
Speaker 3: what do you think is going on with law enforcement
Speaker 3: around these cities around the country.
Speaker 4: I think in general, we've had some bad actors and
Speaker 4: they get a lot of publicity. I think there has
Speaker 4: been a decline in the respect and appreciation for what
Speaker 4: law enforcement provides us day in and day out. Three
Speaker 4: sixty five And I remember when I was a little girl,
Speaker 4: we would dress up as police officers. It was it
Speaker 4: was an honor to have police officers in your neighborhood
Speaker 4: that you knew that you could trust. Them, and we
Speaker 4: were always encouraged if there was a problem to go
Speaker 4: seek out police office. Unfortunately, those bad actors got more
Speaker 4: publicity and more headlined than the good ones, and it's unfortunate.
Speaker 4: But I think it's starting to turn around and people
Speaker 4: are understanding, just like with the military after Vietnam, you know,
Speaker 4: these heroes came back and were spat on, and people
Speaker 4: are slowly starting to understand and turn around. They're doing
Speaker 4: the mission of our country. They don't just decide to
Speaker 4: go over somewhere and fight, and when they come home
Speaker 4: they need to be treated like heroes. They don't need
Speaker 4: to be disrespected. And I'm so grateful to see a
Speaker 4: turnaround now. And also it goes back to Coney and
Speaker 4: they're in the federal government when we had high officials,
Speaker 4: high ranking officials. We're uncovering now the deceit and deception
Speaker 4: and betrayal that they have committed against our country, our people,
Speaker 4: and our president. And I think that's what's happened. There's
Speaker 4: just been a gradual decloning and I'm grateful to see
Speaker 4: this turnaround.
Speaker 2: Well, Patty, I think that's so well said, because oftentimes
Speaker 2: in institutions, you're going to have bad actors. As you said,
Speaker 2: it doesn't matter if you're talking about the church, if
Speaker 2: you're talking about government, if you're talking about Wall Street,
Speaker 2: you're going to have bad actors. And the point about
Speaker 2: the disrespect is true. You had that situation where, you know,
Speaker 2: people were kind of making fun of it, that Department
Speaker 2: of Justice employee who threw the subway sandwich at the
Speaker 2: federal law enforcement officer. They went to a grand jury.
Speaker 2: The grand jury's not going to indict them. You know,
Speaker 2: to me, it's not a question if it's a sandwich,
Speaker 2: it's the notion that you're going to violently throw something
Speaker 2: a law enforcement officer is just to me, patently absurd
Speaker 2: and ridiculous and a sad comment on the fact that
Speaker 2: people get joy and pleasure out of seeing law enforcement
Speaker 2: officers harassed or even assaulted.
Speaker 3: We talked about how with the intentional misrepresentation of crime
Speaker 3: statistics that we know Washington d C has engaged in,
Speaker 3: and when it's impossible not to receive claims of Baltimore,
Speaker 3: Chicago's decline and crime in the same lens, and we
Speaker 3: talked about how it's connected to a heightened tolerance for crime.
Speaker 3: Do you think it's fair to connect that with something
Speaker 3: that you and I and what the work we've done
Speaker 3: here at the Government Accountability Institute have chronicled, which is
Speaker 3: connected to the tolerance for crime on behalf of elected leaders.
Speaker 3: You know, we've we've now seen, because of the declassified timeline,
Speaker 3: something that you know, you worked with the FBI to
Speaker 3: try to expose the Clintons when you wrote the book
Speaker 3: Clinton Cash. We now know that at the highest levels,
Speaker 3: a number of agents whose job it is to enforce
Speaker 3: the law said hey, we think there's something here. We
Speaker 3: think all this money that went to the Clintons while
Speaker 3: Hillary was Secretary of State is worth investigating. And that
Speaker 3: was shut down. Yeah, and she mentioned James Comy. Do
Speaker 3: you think it's fair to connect the dots there like that.
Speaker 3: We've we've seen a tolerance for criminal activity or certainly
Speaker 3: unethical activity at the highest level, and so now you
Speaker 3: sort of see it starting to manifest its way down
Speaker 3: to the local level.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, look, I think respect is something you earn.
Speaker 2: I think also sometimes people can distort the record when
Speaker 2: they besmirch all police officers from a few bad actors.
Speaker 2: But I think when it comes to the FBI, there's
Speaker 2: a reason people don't trust the FBI. This is not
Speaker 2: something that just came out of the blue. And it's
Speaker 2: funny to me that people say, you know, Donald Trump
Speaker 2: is politicizing the FBI. I mean, please seriously go back.
Speaker 2: I would encourage all you people go back and look
Speaker 2: at the documents that have been released by Cash Pattel
Speaker 2: about you had four FBI field agents. We know this
Speaker 2: because we work with them that when we wrote Clinton Cash,
Speaker 2: they wanted to investigate, not just based on my book.
Speaker 2: They don't just read a book and say we're going
Speaker 2: to investigate sounds good. Exactly, they read the book and
Speaker 2: they started doing their own research. We know that there
Speaker 2: was an audio tape of a guy in Nigeria bragging
Speaker 2: that he had gotten favors by donating to the Clinton Foundation,
Speaker 2: and they wanted to investigate, and it was shut down
Speaker 2: by FBI headquarters. So when people say Donald Trump is
Speaker 2: politicized in the FBI, I'm like, what are you talking about?
Speaker 2: If anything, they're trying to depoliticize it by exposing what
Speaker 2: has gone on in the past, and that I think
Speaker 2: is what is so powerful. And every experience I ever
Speaker 2: had with FBI field agents, and I've had several, very professional,
Speaker 2: very solid, just the facts, mam. Type of people. It's
Speaker 2: when they go to main FBI headquarters. They start living
Speaker 2: in that belt Way, they have neighbors that work for
Speaker 2: the federal government, or maybe they're a congressman. They want
Speaker 2: to go to the right parties. They now suddenly join
Speaker 2: the Permanent Party, or at least a lot of them do.
Speaker 2: That's where the corruption begins. Well, and what do you
Speaker 2: like to say.
Speaker 3: People go to Washington and they want to reform it,
Speaker 3: but eventually the cesspool becomes a hot tub and you
Speaker 3: go to Washington, d C. You and I have worked
Speaker 3: to expose how wealthy Washington DC is. It used to
Speaker 3: be true that's seven of the ten wealthiest counties in
Speaker 3: Washington in the country around Washington, d C. And you've
Speaker 3: become part of that lifestyle. There's this push now to
Speaker 3: finally ban members of cong from buying and selling stocks.
Speaker 3: Twelve years after your book came out exposed in the
Speaker 3: ways that member of Congress were doing so, Nancy Pelosi's
Speaker 3: net worth has gone from one hundred and twenty million
Speaker 3: to two hundred and sixty million in that timeframe. Her
Speaker 3: portfolio outperforms the market. The market's up two hundred and
Speaker 3: forty percent, her portfolio is up seven hundred plus percent.
Speaker 3: And this year is a record year for congressional stock purchases, right, Yeah,
Speaker 3: and so a number of them are all beating the market.
Speaker 3: So it just speaks to like how a nesteatized or immune.
Speaker 3: They are to things that the regular people might say,
Speaker 3: why are you allowing this?
Speaker 2: This is not right?
Speaker 3: But I do think there's something about the mentality of
Speaker 3: we're going to maybe not play by all the rules,
Speaker 3: and so if we're not playing by all the rules,
Speaker 3: then if some rules get broken where you live, Jane
Speaker 3: and John Citizen, then you know, what do you want
Speaker 3: us to do about it?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: But yeah, I think that's that's part of the experience
Speaker 3: that people are having. Let's hear from Debbie in Utah.
Speaker 3: She has an idea about one ways things might get fixed.
Speaker 5: Hi, I really supported the police. My grandfather was a
Speaker 5: sergeant in LA and he was just really well respected.
Speaker 5: And I loved my grandfather so much and I was
Speaker 5: so proud of him, and it was we always supported
Speaker 5: the police. And I even support our police here in
Speaker 5: Salt Lake City, and we are so underfunded here and
Speaker 5: we were underfunded in Idaho when my children were little,
Speaker 5: but we had police and our schools and with how
Speaker 5: undisciplined our children were way back then. You know, we're
Speaker 5: talking like twenty, not even thirty years ago. And look
Speaker 5: at our children now, they're just they're out of control
Speaker 5: and now they're going after the parents. But they were
Speaker 5: going after the parents then too.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: No, it's amazing what has gone on. And I think
Speaker 2: that you know, the question you have to ask yourself, honestly, Eric,
Speaker 2: is would you want to be a cop? Would you
Speaker 2: want your friends to be cops? I mean doing it
Speaker 2: today with the lack of respect and the scrutiny. I mean,
Speaker 2: you've got the cop cameras, which I think are good.
Speaker 2: By the way, why don't we have congressional cameras. We
Speaker 2: could have members of Congress with cameras going right, I mean,
Speaker 2: they wouldn't want that scrutiny.
Speaker 3: Who does you have to air that on OnlyFans like that?
Speaker 2: You can't do that.
Speaker 3: In a made for a family audience. To answer your question,
Speaker 3: it's a great question. I think I actually would be
Speaker 3: a police officer, encourage people to be a police officer
Speaker 3: in Utah because I don't believe people in Utah committed
Speaker 3: any crimes like the Utah Jazz don't even foul Idaho too. Idaho,
Speaker 3: I think you guys are pretty much okay. But in
Speaker 3: some of these other areas, I think, no, it's it's
Speaker 3: And it does speak to the cop conversation completely shifted
Speaker 3: about law enforcement. It happened in twenty twenty, and I
Speaker 3: do think that's it's absolutely impossible to not connect the
Speaker 3: dots between the law enforcement shortages they're experiencing in blue
Speaker 3: cities all over the country and the actions and words
Speaker 3: that the leaders of those cities had five years ago
Speaker 3: in the summer of twenty twenty when everyone got caught
Speaker 3: up in this George Floyd fever dream at the expense
Speaker 3: of the respect we used to have for law and order.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and look, I have a good friend who was
Speaker 2: a former assistant director of the FBI. He now runs
Speaker 2: a consultancy for police recruitments, and one of the things
Speaker 2: he talks about is, look, when you trash the police,
Speaker 2: a lot of people are going to say. Very good, solid,
Speaker 2: qualified people can say, look, I'm just not going to
Speaker 2: put up with it. I'm not going to take that job.
Speaker 2: You have to lower standards to attract other people that
Speaker 2: are willing to tolerate it. And one of the things
Speaker 2: he said is, look, in some of these urban areas,
Speaker 2: the psychological tests that you have to pass, they loosen
Speaker 2: them because the only way that they can fill the
Speaker 2: ranks is by doing something. Now, I'm not saying that
Speaker 2: the cops out there bad, I'm just saying that this
Speaker 2: is what happens when you attack people for taking on
Speaker 2: the responsibility to be a police officer. A lot of
Speaker 2: people are gonna say, forget it. I'm not going to
Speaker 2: put up with it. You're not going to get the
Speaker 2: same quality of people going in that you would before.
Speaker 3: And it may seem like a cliche for two guys
Speaker 3: hosting a national conservative radio show to say something positive
Speaker 3: about President Trump, and we sort of joked about the
Speaker 3: change he had with the cracker barrel logo earlier this week,
Speaker 3: but it is true that I do think one of
Speaker 3: the most meaningful things that Donald Trump could do in
Speaker 3: this country. We've seen the way he shifted the culture
Speaker 3: around certain conversations already, like the conversation about how we
Speaker 3: save money and cut budgets and like, hey, this is
Speaker 3: stuff we have to use the pay down debt because
Speaker 3: otherwise the interest rates are going to be way too high.
Speaker 3: Like that has shifted, and I do think he can
Speaker 3: absolutely shift the conversation about the way we look at
Speaker 3: law enforcement and the military and enrollment and recruitment is
Speaker 3: up now right under that they was at low's under
Speaker 3: Joe Biden, and I do think that it's possible. Just
Speaker 3: he's elevating more traditional cultural norms and respect for law
Speaker 3: enforcement is a big one of those.
Speaker 2: Well, there's a key word you use there right. A
Speaker 2: lot of people when they think about problems in Washington,
Speaker 2: international problems, it's the money of resources. It's actually a
Speaker 2: problem of culture. You have to change the culture. And
Speaker 2: Donald Trump has had a huge effect there. Join the conversation.
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Speaker 1: Welcome back.
Speaker 3: It's the Sean Handy Show. Eric Eggers and Peter Schweitzer
Speaker 3: filling in for Shawn. So grateful for the opportunity we
Speaker 3: do a podcast each week called The Drill Down where
Speaker 3: you can learn more about government officials behaving badly. And
Speaker 3: Peter Schweizer has spent his career exposing that. And unfortunately,
Speaker 3: we have no shortage of government officials. We've now got
Speaker 3: more examples. Come ye, Federal chairman, excuse me. Fed Governor
Speaker 3: Lisa Cook has a little bit of a problem with
Speaker 3: some mortgage issues. Donald Trump addressed it earlier this week.
Speaker 3: Listening to what Donald Trump had to say about Lisa Cook.
Speaker 2: The mortgage records.
Speaker 6: Of officials, No, they're public. I mean you can find
Speaker 6: out those records. You can go check out the records yourself.
Speaker 6: And you should be doing that job. Actually, you wouldn't
Speaker 6: do that because that's the kind of reporter you are.
Speaker 6: But you should be doing that job. I shouldn't have
Speaker 6: to be doing and if you did your job properly,
Speaker 6: we wouldn't have problems like Lisa Cook.
Speaker 2: Go ahead, you're going to say something. Yeah, no, this
Speaker 2: is a great example. Trump is right. We actually did
Speaker 2: this as it came to Adam Shift. We got the documents.
Speaker 2: We reported this back in October. Adam Shift did the
Speaker 2: same thing, and people think, like, well, mortgage fraud people
Speaker 2: have gone to jail. Right, The Mayor of Baltimore went
Speaker 2: to jail for doing the exact same thing, because it
Speaker 2: allows you to borrow more money. When you claim something
Speaker 2: as a pirate private residence, you get a lower interest rate.
Speaker 2: Say to you, tens of thousands of dollars. This is
Speaker 2: a real issue, and in particularly Lisa Cook. She's a
Speaker 2: financial regulator. She committed mortgage fraud. She should go