WEBVTT - Ep. 9 — It is time to take several seats Raven-Symoné

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, guys, welcome back to Brown Ambition. It's Mandy.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, Hey, hey, and you already know it's me Tiffany.

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<v Speaker 1>We've had a pretty exciting week. I feel like the

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<v Speaker 1>last week has been pretty vic both of us. Tiffany's

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<v Speaker 1>had a birthday. Happy birthday, Tiffany, wo.

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<v Speaker 2>Woop, thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>Happy twenty first birthday.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, when I was little, my mom she turned

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<v Speaker 2>thirty nine and then literally for ten years straight she

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<v Speaker 2>was thirty nine. It took me a while to catch on.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, wait, you're thirty nine again. That's okay.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to stick with twenty nine and I'm never

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<v Speaker 2>going to get older.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, like a day over twenty two. What did

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<v Speaker 1>you do for your birthday?

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<v Speaker 2>I went to the Bahamas on a budget of course,

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<v Speaker 2>because you know I'm the budgetista. Four hundred and twenty

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<v Speaker 2>two dollars wooed for flight and hotel.

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<v Speaker 1>That's awesome.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was really beautiful. There's a beach in the

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<v Speaker 2>Bahamas in Freeport, I guess that's the Grand Bahama Island

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<v Speaker 2>where they taped Pirates of the Caribbean. And it was

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<v Speaker 2>hands down the most beautiful beach I've seen ever. And

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<v Speaker 2>it was empty because we went during off season, so

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<v Speaker 2>it's like six miles of pristine, beautiful beach and it

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<v Speaker 2>was just me and my travel friend Madeline.

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<v Speaker 1>Wasn't there just a hurricane there?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? I think, like, no, you know what there they

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<v Speaker 2>I think some of the other islands, because the Bahamas

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<v Speaker 2>is like a mix of like six different islands, and

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<v Speaker 2>so some of the other islands kind of got the

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<v Speaker 2>brunt of the hurricane, but where I was, they had not.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, good, Yeah, that sounds amazing. I saw some of

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<v Speaker 1>your pictures. They were so beautiful.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was just honestly, it's like literally just what

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<v Speaker 2>I needed.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I too went to an exotic destination.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>My goal for twenty fifteen was to just like get

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<v Speaker 1>the upper half of my body to be the same

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<v Speaker 1>shade as the lower half of my body, because I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like since I moved to New York from Georgia,

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<v Speaker 1>I've never had an even I have not had an

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<v Speaker 1>even tand like my legs have turned a shade of

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<v Speaker 1>pale yellow that I feel like does not exist outside

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<v Speaker 1>of the a cran box. We're like among muppets. And

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<v Speaker 1>uh so, you know, naturally, I went to Wisconsin for

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<v Speaker 1>one of the few days I take off a year.

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<v Speaker 1>This is actually, you know, for a really cool reason.

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<v Speaker 1>My sister Mallory. I love her very much. She got

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<v Speaker 1>married on Friday.

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<v Speaker 2>They were so beautiful. I was like, oh, look at

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<v Speaker 2>you and your sister and the picture of her, like

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<v Speaker 2>in the black and white standing in the room. It

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<v Speaker 2>was like, so beautiful, I know, a fairytale bride.

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<v Speaker 1>It was really pretty. She had She had this whole

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<v Speaker 1>like sixties like June Carter Cash hairstyle, and she got

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<v Speaker 1>her makeup done. And I am like very much like

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<v Speaker 1>I don't really cry and I don't really get emotional,

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<v Speaker 1>so it was really fun to just like get to

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<v Speaker 1>be in that girly environment. I've never been a bridesmaid

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<v Speaker 1>before either really no. No, I have friends, but like.

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<v Speaker 2>Or don't. Like, Okay, you're gonna start a hashtag, y'all,

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<v Speaker 2>so at FA Podcasts, that's our our Twitter handle, and

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<v Speaker 2>I want you to hashtag Mandy. I'm your friend Mandy

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<v Speaker 2>with the I Mandy.

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<v Speaker 1>Listen. I have friends, they just haven't gotten married yet.

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<v Speaker 1>Nobody nobody from Georgia moves to New York to get married.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why my friends haven't gotten married yet. I had

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<v Speaker 1>a really good time and now I'm back and I

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<v Speaker 1>we'll start with some We'll start with buzzworthy. Okay, I

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<v Speaker 1>have to talk about this because before I left from

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<v Speaker 1>my trip this past week, one of the last things

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<v Speaker 1>I wrote was a response to this article, this essay

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<v Speaker 1>that Jennifer Lawrence wrote for Lenadham's new newsletter. You know, Lenny,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not really fan, but anyway, so Lena Dunham has

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<v Speaker 1>a newsletter. She's giving me a bunch of celebrities. She's

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<v Speaker 1>had like Hillary Clinton write stuff and being interviewed by her,

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<v Speaker 1>and now she's got Jennifer Lawrence coming out for the

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<v Speaker 1>first time ever and talking about what it was like

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<v Speaker 1>for her. I don't know if you remember, but so

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<v Speaker 1>a few months back, like this summer Sony, then the

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<v Speaker 1>huge production Studios was hacked and these emails came out

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<v Speaker 1>revealing that Jennifer Lawrence and Amy Adams were paid like

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<v Speaker 1>half as much wow as Bradley Cooper and Jeremy Renner

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<v Speaker 1>were in the movie American Hustle, which came out last

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<v Speaker 1>or last December or last Christmas. And Jennifer Lawrence never

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<v Speaker 1>really talked about it until this letter, and she essentially writes,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, here's what it was like. It was shitty,

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<v Speaker 1>like the guys with Dix got raises and it was

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<v Speaker 1>great for them. And she what she says is basically like,

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't upset with Sony when I realized this, I

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<v Speaker 1>was upset with myself. I blame myself for like leaving

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<v Speaker 1>the negotiation table, and I should have stopped for myself.

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<v Speaker 1>And she like kind of says, you know, it gives

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<v Speaker 1>the middle finger to gender bias. You know, she talks

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<v Speaker 1>about how when she stands up for herself, people act

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<v Speaker 1>as if, you know, she's insulted them or she's not

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<v Speaker 1>being a team player. And she's like, fuck that, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to say what I want to say when I

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<v Speaker 1>want to say it. I'm done trying to find the

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<v Speaker 1>adorable way to be assertive.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think what's strange is like, I mean, I

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<v Speaker 2>agree that you definitely want to take and as a woman,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, we don't negotiate nearly as much, but don't

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<v Speaker 2>act as if if you had negotiated, you still probably

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<v Speaker 2>would have not gotten what what the guy's got, you

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<v Speaker 2>know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, that's the thing people ask me, like, doesn't she

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<v Speaker 1>have an agent doing this for her. Yeah, And I'm like, probably,

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<v Speaker 1>but I guess maybe it was a situation where the

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<v Speaker 1>agent was like, oh, she's a woman, this is what

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<v Speaker 1>she's worth, you know. And I'm like, in that case,

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<v Speaker 1>I hope she fired him exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's just crazy. Let me tell you. So,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm I'm on this tour, this Know Your Value Tour

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<v Speaker 2>by MSNBC, and I don't know if you know Mika Brazinski.

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<v Speaker 2>So she has this show on WSNBC called what is

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<v Speaker 2>a show called Oh Morning Joe. So she's got this

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<v Speaker 2>co host Joe, and she started this tour because of

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<v Speaker 2>this reason right here. So she has this co host,

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<v Speaker 2>cohort cohort co host Joe, and she and he are

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<v Speaker 2>really equally important on this show. And she found out

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<v Speaker 2>she just casually, I don't know how it came out.

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<v Speaker 2>She found out after negotiating and their show was like

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<v Speaker 2>number one, it's doing so great. She found out that

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<v Speaker 2>he was making get ready for this not one times more,

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<v Speaker 2>not two, not five, but fourteen one, four times more

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<v Speaker 2>than her. Fourteen times more. How is that even possible?

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<v Speaker 2>She was like, wait what? So she started this whole

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<v Speaker 2>Know Your Value to he to really teach women kind

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<v Speaker 2>of like how not to be First she wrote the book, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>and yeah the book. Yes, the book came out first,

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<v Speaker 2>but it just was really shocking. Here's this woman, she's beautiful,

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<v Speaker 2>she's smart, she's got this great show, and you're thinking,

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<v Speaker 2>like she's on top of the world fourteen times more

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<v Speaker 2>her co host was making and so don't tell me

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<v Speaker 2>that's just the lack of like, oh, I didn't just negotiate.

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<v Speaker 2>That's just crazy, you know, right?

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<v Speaker 1>And I think what she You know, I interviewed Mika

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<v Speaker 1>for Yahoo when her book came out, Know Your Value,

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<v Speaker 1>and I like what she had to say. And I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like I've heard this again and again and I've

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<v Speaker 1>even experienced this in my career. Is the importance of

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<v Speaker 1>having a male mentor or not just you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>word mentor is so like loaded. I'm not talking about

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<v Speaker 1>someone who's like your Yoda and takes you aside and

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<v Speaker 1>like shows you the meaning of life and is there

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<v Speaker 1>for you every day, but just someone who you can

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<v Speaker 1>go to and say, hey, so you know, what's like

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<v Speaker 1>Joe or Mike, Like, how much did you make when

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<v Speaker 1>you were starting out? What you know, what did you

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<v Speaker 1>make when you were on my level, what are you

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<v Speaker 1>making now? And like, that's the bar that you want

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<v Speaker 1>to rise to, because sadly enough, oftentimes men make so

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<v Speaker 1>much more. That's who you should be, you know, that's

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<v Speaker 1>the bar you should try and try and strive for.

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<v Speaker 1>And when Mika found that out, she makes a big

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<v Speaker 1>deal about talking about in the book she went to

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<v Speaker 1>oh and asked him for negotiating strategies I In Jennifer

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<v Speaker 1>Lawrence's letters, she writes basically like, you know, screw you,

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<v Speaker 1>gender bias. I'm gonna say whatever I want. And Mika

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<v Speaker 1>too is like, well, Joe's like screw you to everybody

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<v Speaker 1>and like cursing at them, doesn't care, doesn't give a

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a crap how people view him, which is

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<v Speaker 1>all great, And I want to be like girl power

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<v Speaker 1>middle finger gender bias, like get what you want, go

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<v Speaker 1>in there and ask for what you deserve. But unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is where I feel like Jennifer Lawrence missed

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<v Speaker 1>the mark in her letter. This is what I write

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<v Speaker 1>about in my story for Yahoo, which is that studies

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<v Speaker 1>show there are real social and professional consequences for women

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<v Speaker 1>when they speak up for themselves in a work. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>people are more, people are less likely. Studies have shown

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<v Speaker 1>to want to work with a woman who speaks up

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<v Speaker 1>for herself, especially when it comes to her salary, and

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<v Speaker 1>to work under a woman who speaks up for themselves.

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<v Speaker 1>And I find that really disheartening. And I think, but

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's reality. You know, you have to recognize

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<v Speaker 1>that you can't just take the advice or just like

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<v Speaker 1>you know, just like any man. Oh my god, so

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<v Speaker 1>many men responded to this, like I have over one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred comments on Facebook for this article and so many

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<v Speaker 1>like guys, You're like, why should we feel sorry for women?

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<v Speaker 1>Just don't know how to negotiate, just like, speak up

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<v Speaker 1>for yourself, just like ask for it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not that easy.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not like if I ask for if I go

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<v Speaker 1>in a room and say, hey, I deserve half a

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<v Speaker 1>million dollars, you know, and I want, like I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know the stock options, put me on a board, like

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<v Speaker 1>give me my own office. As a woman, people are

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<v Speaker 1>gonna think, wow, she's kind of greedy, she's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>full of herself. As a man, you're like, oh, well,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe you know he deserves it.

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<v Speaker 2>He's like even now, like you know, as an entrepreneur,

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<v Speaker 2>setting my prices. Sometimes it's a bit like scary, because

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it's almost like, you know, because I do

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of community work, so people tend to feel like, oh, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>it should be free, right, Tiffany's free, even though I

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<v Speaker 2>see her flying all over the place and teaching and

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<v Speaker 2>speaking and blah blah blah. And then you know, somebody

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<v Speaker 2>will hit me up and they're like, oh, so that's

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<v Speaker 2>your price, or I'll get like behind the scenes or

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<v Speaker 2>this is what I get a lot, which is so strange.

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<v Speaker 2>People who'll have just met me at an event, we'll

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<v Speaker 2>just say, hey, girl, you can give me a call

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<v Speaker 2>real quick, and I'm like, who is this And they're

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<v Speaker 2>just asking me to call them for like financial advice,

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<v Speaker 2>like but I don't know them. And I just think myself, O, man,

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<v Speaker 2>if I was a guy, would that be? Would you?

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't think people are doing it to be

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<v Speaker 2>purposefully disrespectful of my time and like, this is the

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<v Speaker 2>business that I'm in. But I feel like as a

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<v Speaker 2>woman sometimes it's like why you charge? Oh so I

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<v Speaker 2>just can't talk to you on the phone. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm running a business, right, you know, And so and

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<v Speaker 2>then I feel bad. Sometimes I'm like, well should I?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, even now I take way more calls than

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<v Speaker 2>I should. I know that because I feel bad saying no,

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<v Speaker 2>I feel greedy, like, well, tifny help them. And even

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<v Speaker 2>though I have built so many different avenues for people

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<v Speaker 2>to get help for free, I still find myself giving

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<v Speaker 2>away even more of myself for free. So it's difficult

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<v Speaker 2>whether you have regular nine to five or whether or

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<v Speaker 2>not you're an entrepreneur.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, when did you get to the point where

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<v Speaker 1>you felt like you were asking for what you deserve

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of like the feaz you're charging about a

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<v Speaker 1>month ago, and you've been doing this for a long time.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, I've been in business for five years. And

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<v Speaker 2>it wasn't even me. This is what happened. So this

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<v Speaker 2>huge organization, this national organization, was like, hey, Tiffany, we

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<v Speaker 2>want you to speak at five different locations with us.

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<v Speaker 2>Send me how much it would cost per location. So meanwhile,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean bear in mind that this has been a

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<v Speaker 2>banner year for me. So like last year, my highest

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<v Speaker 2>rate was like fifteen hundred, and I thought that was

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<v Speaker 2>big money. So I thought to myself, I was asking

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<v Speaker 2>everybody that I knew that had no real experience, What

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<v Speaker 2>do you think I should charge? In my heart, I

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to ask for five thousand dollars per per talk,

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<v Speaker 2>so five times five twenty five thousand. But I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>there's no way they're going to give me that. That's

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<v Speaker 2>way too much money, Tiffany. But I was like, I

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<v Speaker 2>really wanted to ask for that, and so I kind

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<v Speaker 2>of like asked around and decided to play it safe

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<v Speaker 2>and asked for thirty five hundred dollars per talk, which

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<v Speaker 2>was still huge because my talk is like forty five minutes,

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<v Speaker 2>and I thought, well, still big money, Tiffany, right man,

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<v Speaker 2>And I submitted my thirty five hundred dollars for talk.

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<v Speaker 2>They said yes. And then I met the woman who

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<v Speaker 2>kind of like is like the she's a global what

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<v Speaker 2>was her position, like global something, communications director or whatever,

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<v Speaker 2>and she pulled me aside. She's a woman of color,

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<v Speaker 2>pulled me aside and said, oh, Tiffany, I wish you

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<v Speaker 2>would have asked me about the rates first, because they

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<v Speaker 2>told me to tell them how much. She said, before

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<v Speaker 2>you sent out that email, because I had to send

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<v Speaker 2>it out to a number of people and everyone saw it.

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<v Speaker 2>She said, honestly, for what you are providing for us.

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<v Speaker 2>We paid between ten to fifteen thousand dollars. I talked,

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<v Speaker 2>so I could have gotten paid minimum. Wasn't it too

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<v Speaker 2>late to go back? No, it was I could pay

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<v Speaker 2>fifty thousand dollars and instead I'm getting fourteen thousand from

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<v Speaker 2>fifty thousand minimum.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you feel like you just weren't asking the right

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<v Speaker 1>people in terms of what your rates should have been.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, of course, because I didn't know who to

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<v Speaker 2>a Honestly, I'm in I feel like I'm in this

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<v Speaker 2>new waiting pool where most of my friends had regular

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<v Speaker 2>ninety fives or they're like beginning entrepreneurs and my business

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<v Speaker 2>is not going to say their business is not growing,

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<v Speaker 2>but they're not in the same business as I am.

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<v Speaker 2>Like one of my best friends, she's a really successful publicist,

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<v Speaker 2>but she's not a speaker, so she's like, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, if I was doing publicity work, she'd know

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<v Speaker 2>and so and even when the woman this is how crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>Even when the woman told me, Tiffany, you should have

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<v Speaker 2>asked between ten and fifteen thousand, I actually told her no.

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<v Speaker 2>I said, oh no, no, no me, Tiffany, There's no

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<v Speaker 2>way you guys are not paying that. She said, Tiffany,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm the one who okays the budget. How are you

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<v Speaker 2>going to tell me no? Can you imagine? It took

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<v Speaker 2>me like twenty four hours to digest, Like, yes, Tiffany,

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<v Speaker 2>they would have paid you that, because I kept thinking,

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<v Speaker 2>they're not gonna pay me that, and she's like, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>this is what we pay.

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<v Speaker 1>At the point when you have to talk to someone

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<v Speaker 1>who's like you may not know personally mm hmm, but

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<v Speaker 1>you know who is at a higher level than you.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly how I was like, fight to my website that

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<v Speaker 2>night and I increased my rates to so like my

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<v Speaker 2>top rate now is one thousand dollars and it goes

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<v Speaker 2>down from there. I increase my rates right away. So

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<v Speaker 2>I told myself, this is it, because if they're telling

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<v Speaker 2>me this, this is what my worth is, how am I,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, pushing against it saying no, I'm worth one

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<v Speaker 2>third of that? Not even you know, right.

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<v Speaker 1>I recently had a conversation with someone like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>someone who's in the same field as I am. I

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<v Speaker 1>was asking her because she just got a great promotion.

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<v Speaker 1>She had a very glossy new title, and I was like, man,

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<v Speaker 1>she must be making a lot more, and I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to figure out how she had done it. I just

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<v Speaker 1>I just asked a lot of awkward questions. I'm known for,

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<v Speaker 1>like asking people, how much do you make? How is

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<v Speaker 1>that negotiation? Whatever? I just ask weird questions. And I

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<v Speaker 1>asked her straight up, you know you got this great promotion?

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<v Speaker 1>First of all, how'd you do it? Well? She had

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<v Speaker 1>a competing offer from another another company, which is great leverage.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I said, okay, great, how much do you

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<v Speaker 1>make now? And she and I are pretty close in

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<v Speaker 1>our you know, in our levels. We work in different fields,

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<v Speaker 1>but close in our responsibilities, in our duties. And she

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<v Speaker 1>earns less than I do. Now what fit having this promotion?

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<v Speaker 1>And I was like, what's happening? At first, I was like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>good because I was almost you know, I negotiated the

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<v Speaker 1>hell out of, you know, the last couple of job

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<v Speaker 1>offers I've had. And I always tell women that, and

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<v Speaker 1>I've learned this from my own experience, is that if

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<v Speaker 1>you're negotiating a job offer and you are sweating bullets

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<v Speaker 1>and you're about to shit your pants, and you feel

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<v Speaker 1>like like your heart is punching you in the throat,

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<v Speaker 1>then you should add ten percent, because I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>as women, we as women, we tend to pull back

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<v Speaker 1>when we should be pushing forward. And it's very uncomfortable.

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<v Speaker 1>And I can't like count on two hands how many

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<v Speaker 1>women I've told how uncomfortable negotiating can be. And it's

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<v Speaker 1>never going to be comfortable, like probably never until you

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even know when, but like it's always going

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<v Speaker 1>to feel against every base instinct as a woman to

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<v Speaker 1>ask for more. And I'm like, you have to embrace that,

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<v Speaker 1>like discomfort, and you have to push through it and

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<v Speaker 1>ask for more. And that was a good example of

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<v Speaker 1>you know, in this, in this the case of my

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<v Speaker 1>colleague in this woman in their company, she had it

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<v Speaker 1>negotiated early, and she was basically negotiating from a lower

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<v Speaker 1>base than what I was negotiating from. And that also

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<v Speaker 1>just goes back to like you need to start early

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<v Speaker 1>and negotiate hard, because like once you get that first offer,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what every raise is going to be based off of.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, I'm so oh speaking of so over it.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's time for brown break, ground break. What's

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<v Speaker 2>going to do? What's you gonna do when me come

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<v Speaker 2>for you? Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that too?

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<v Speaker 2>So who needs to have several seats this week.

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<v Speaker 1>Several seats how many women are on the View, because

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<v Speaker 1>that's who needs to have I think four, four or

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<v Speaker 1>five seats. We need a stadium of seats for every

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<v Speaker 1>woman on the View. All eight of those X chromosomes

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<v Speaker 1>need to be sat down and silenced. I mostly have

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<v Speaker 1>a problem, you know, the View. I don't know why

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<v Speaker 1>they don't cancel this show. It's crazy it's even still on.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna lie like I have a job. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't watch The View. I haven't sat down and watched

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<v Speaker 1>a full hour of this show probably ever in my life. However,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm the consumer of the Internet, and so all the

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<v Speaker 1>clips and stuff I see, and recently the two I

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<v Speaker 1>guess the main person on the show right now who's

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<v Speaker 1>just like saying the dumbest shit is Raven Simone. So

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<v Speaker 1>recently on the show she was talking about I guess

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<v Speaker 1>it's this whole segment started by you know, making fun

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<v Speaker 1>of like YouTube stars, like internet stars, weird names, and

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<v Speaker 1>Raven comes out and just like, you know me, be real,

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<v Speaker 1>I would not hire someone with the ghetto name, says.

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<v Speaker 2>Raven Simone, random on the wrong letters A.

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<v Speaker 1>Raven Simone and I think, I think you're the one

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<v Speaker 1>who who first shared this on Facebook and I saw it,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm just like.

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<v Speaker 3>What is happening?

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<v Speaker 1>Why is doing exactly what they want her to do

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of like just riling up people.

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<v Speaker 2>But like she's so meanwhile, I mean, and I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>one to throw around the word ghetto blah blah blah,

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<v Speaker 2>but when Raven she looks she has pink hair, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>and like red hair and like fake fox locks, and

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<v Speaker 2>just she is serving water Maandrella Lisha whatever the fake

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<v Speaker 2>name that she created with like Raven Simone, honestly, just

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<v Speaker 2>don't even have several seats. Just get your coat. This

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<v Speaker 2>is a get your coat moment. Leave the building. Whoever

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<v Speaker 2>you brought, whoever came with you, or who brought you here,

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<v Speaker 2>they're no longer allowed at the party. She's just, like

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<v Speaker 2>you said, she's just saying stuff just to be ignorant.

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<v Speaker 2>I heard that. Even her own father was like, I tried.

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<v Speaker 1>Write really funny she wrote like a dad post on Facebook.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like, she said some stupid shit, but I still

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<v Speaker 1>love her.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that is a very dead that is.

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<v Speaker 1>That's honestly all I want to say about that. Like

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<v Speaker 1>I just think Raven needs to get.

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<v Speaker 3>Off the air.

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<v Speaker 1>Get her off the air. Yeah, she doesn't make good

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<v Speaker 1>since Cheetah Girls, and I love Cheetah Girls.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, sold, she was such a cute odes.

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<v Speaker 1>That was her last successful TV show, and that's where

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<v Speaker 1>it should have ended.

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<v Speaker 2>How I'm trying to remember. I forgot, Like my memory

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<v Speaker 2>is like though, I'm like, what was my blown break?

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<v Speaker 1>Your brown break was going to be discount airlines?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? No, but I had a better one. Oh I remember?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh so oh my brown break this week is kind

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<v Speaker 2>of like, I guess piggybacking on Christy Tigue and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>congratulations to her and John Legend and if they're progant preggers.

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<v Speaker 2>So mine is linked to the fact that I just

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<v Speaker 2>turned thirty six. Yes, get in twenty two. Honestly, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not even a shame of my age. People are always like,

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<v Speaker 2>what you told someone. I'm like, yeah, I'm thirty six,

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<v Speaker 2>so what So I don't have any kids, although me

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<v Speaker 2>and the BF Superman I are definitely talking about it

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<v Speaker 2>and about working on it far as getting married and

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<v Speaker 2>having children's. But I mean, I get that question, what

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<v Speaker 2>are you gonna have kids? Tiffany're getting a little old.

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<v Speaker 2>When are you gonna have kids? I'm like, uh, i'd

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<v Speaker 2>your business. I'm just wanting to take a brown break

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<v Speaker 2>from the whole when are you gonna have kids? Question?

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<v Speaker 2>It's just, yeah, it's just intrusive. And you don't know

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<v Speaker 2>what if I was trying and I wasn't able. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>a friend of mine just had a super preemi. He

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<v Speaker 2>has been trying. He and his wife have been trying

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<v Speaker 2>for years. Their first set of twins that when she

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<v Speaker 2>was first pregnant, she lost them, and then they lost

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<v Speaker 2>another baby, and she just went into really early labor

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<v Speaker 2>and her their son is only twenty three weeks and

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<v Speaker 2>he was only twenty three weeks inside her and he

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<v Speaker 2>came out one pound seven ounces.

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<v Speaker 1>Wasn't that what Chrissy Tiagan was saying. So she has

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<v Speaker 1>this new show with like I don't know, Tyler Banks

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<v Speaker 1>and Josie.

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<v Speaker 3>From Yahoo Hey.

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<v Speaker 1>Called The fab Life. And on the show, she was

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<v Speaker 1>talking about how people keep asking her because she's been

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<v Speaker 1>married for I guests a couple of years and people

0:20:59.520 --> 0:21:01.160
<v Speaker 1>have been asking her like winning and I have a kid,

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<v Speaker 1>and I guess say I'm having some fertility issues. She said,

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<v Speaker 1>you know you don't know our problems, and it's rude

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<v Speaker 1>that you're asking.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because you know, I mean, I'm not having for

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I don't know. I mean I haven't tried,

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<v Speaker 2>but I mean not did I know? But what if

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<v Speaker 2>I was and you're asking and asking? Yeah? So just

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<v Speaker 2>rob break just mind.

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<v Speaker 1>Of business, mine business. I feel like this should be

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<v Speaker 1>dedicated to mother's auntie business.

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<v Speaker 2>Remember just where did that come from?

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<v Speaker 3>Just mine? Mine?

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<v Speaker 2>Was? That? Was that Wilsmith trying to teach Asley Banks

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<v Speaker 2>how to how to fight?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh man, maybe.

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<v Speaker 2>It's my business.

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<v Speaker 1>I had that awkward karaoke moment where you're like, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna do the Fresh Prince song and then you realize

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<v Speaker 1>there's a whole other verse that you.

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<v Speaker 3>Never show the show.

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<v Speaker 1>Just side note on that one. I went to a conference.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't talk about this a couple like I guess.

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<v Speaker 1>A week or two ago. I was in Montana, another

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<v Speaker 1>beautiful place in the middle of nowhere, and it was

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<v Speaker 1>it was a conference full of women and we at

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<v Speaker 1>one point we were talking about there was a speaker

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<v Speaker 1>who was talking about how she revolutionized for you know,

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<v Speaker 1>foreign correspondence for women journalists. And she spent like a

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<v Speaker 1>long time talking about her career, and I was like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I really would like to know what did

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<v Speaker 1>you sacrifice? Do you have a family, how did you

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<v Speaker 1>you know? Do you have a marriage? Like what are

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<v Speaker 1>your what's your personal life like? Because she only focused

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<v Speaker 1>on the professional and someone at my table was like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we never ask a man that, And I'm like, valid, however,

0:22:27.600 --> 0:22:30.920
<v Speaker 1>a man does not have a uterus and a man

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<v Speaker 1>does not have this ticking timeline of their biology, and

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<v Speaker 1>like I'm all for being feminist and like not asking

0:22:37.119 --> 0:22:39.040
<v Speaker 1>sexist questions, I know, but I feel like there is

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<v Speaker 1>a point where, like women to women, I don't see

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<v Speaker 1>what the problem is in me asking you a legitimate

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<v Speaker 1>question about like how you balanced family and work?

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<v Speaker 3>You know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 1>Because that's like I feel like that's what men want,

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<v Speaker 1>That's what women want to know. Can we have a

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<v Speaker 1>baby and be you know, a CEO or like I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, like foreign correspondent or whatever, Like what are

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<v Speaker 1>the real what's what's the reality here?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I sacrifice is telling you. Like today, like we

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<v Speaker 2>taped a little bit later than usual because I had

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<v Speaker 2>to make dinner because Superman was like, so you haven't

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<v Speaker 2>made dinner in a while, and most people would be like, well,

0:23:10.480 --> 0:23:12.880
<v Speaker 2>so what he can make his own dinner. Honestly, he

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<v Speaker 2>always makes dinner, he said. Luckily he doesn't listen to

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<v Speaker 2>the podcast, so I can go in. He always makes dinner.

0:23:18.160 --> 0:23:20.000
<v Speaker 2>He always has a laundry, he always has a dishes,

0:23:20.040 --> 0:23:21.960
<v Speaker 2>he always has a cleaning up. He always makes the bed.

0:23:22.480 --> 0:23:24.760
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, the worst. The only thing I do consistently

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<v Speaker 2>is my business, the Budgetisa, And sometimes I like look

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<v Speaker 2>up after twelve hours of like working on the computer

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<v Speaker 2>or tending to my business, and I'm like, what have

0:23:34.359 --> 0:23:38.800
<v Speaker 2>you done to add to the household? Nothing? And he's

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<v Speaker 2>always so good and kind about it. But then every

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<v Speaker 2>once in a while he's like, babe, I wish you'd

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<v Speaker 2>make dinner. So I was like, you know what, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not gonna say, I've got work to do, because I

0:23:47.720 --> 0:23:51.240
<v Speaker 2>always have work to do, you know, And so I

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<v Speaker 2>don't want to lose. This is such a great relationship

0:23:54.040 --> 0:23:59.080
<v Speaker 2>because everyone else I've been with has been like, you know, like, ugh, Tiffany,

0:23:59.119 --> 0:24:02.320
<v Speaker 2>you and this budget, theese, the business. But he's really supportive,

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<v Speaker 2>so I really try to listen. When he's like okay,

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<v Speaker 2>enough already, like just put like, even after you get

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<v Speaker 2>off the podcast today, I'm gonna close the computer for

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<v Speaker 2>once in my life. I'm gonna go downstairs and watch

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<v Speaker 2>whatever show he's watching and just hang out and like

0:24:17.480 --> 0:24:19.640
<v Speaker 2>help him full close because he's doing laundry right now.

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<v Speaker 2>Because you know, I just I don't want to sacrifice everything.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I see Oprah and I think to myself, Wow,

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<v Speaker 2>you know Oprah didn't have kids, and she made a

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<v Speaker 2>conscious decision not to have children because she said she

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<v Speaker 2>knew she couldn't do both be Oprah and be a

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<v Speaker 2>good mother. She had to decide. And I don't want

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<v Speaker 2>Oprah's status if it comes with me having to decide

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<v Speaker 2>not to have a family.

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<v Speaker 1>Alrighty, and let's move on along to tips.

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<v Speaker 2>Tips tips, tips, tips Man.

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<v Speaker 1>Tips Man. Well, this week, Tiffany wrote a really fun

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<v Speaker 1>and I think insightful. I'm all about being real. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>all when people ask me, like how much do you make?

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<v Speaker 1>How do you afford living in New York? I always

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<v Speaker 1>tell the truth. And I like that you put out

0:25:17.680 --> 0:25:19.760
<v Speaker 1>there on Facebook like you're entil You just like threw

0:25:19.800 --> 0:25:22.080
<v Speaker 1>out your budget like I need the budget, Neista, Here's

0:25:22.160 --> 0:25:25.520
<v Speaker 1>how my life works. So I wanted to talk to you,

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<v Speaker 1>like and both of us actually just like sharing tips

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<v Speaker 1>on how to maintain a good lifestyle while still you know,

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<v Speaker 1>being within our prospective budgets.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that I mean honestly to me, it starts with

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<v Speaker 2>number one live simply like I don't live in fancy life.

0:25:41.760 --> 0:25:43.359
<v Speaker 2>I think. I think. I wrote on Facebook that, like,

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<v Speaker 2>I still drive my ninety nine toy to Camra, which

0:25:45.600 --> 0:25:47.520
<v Speaker 2>I got like eight years ago, so it's not like

0:25:47.560 --> 0:25:49.400
<v Speaker 2>I got it new, but I paid for in full.

0:25:49.520 --> 0:25:52.840
<v Speaker 2>It was four thousand dollars I remember, and it still

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<v Speaker 2>runs great. Honestly. Cameras are a really great cars sidebar

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<v Speaker 2>and Tiffany.

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<v Speaker 1>What if I don't want to drive an old car

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<v Speaker 1>and I want to go on trips and travel.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I say this that you can't have everything at

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<v Speaker 2>the same time necessarily, like not even necessarily, It's just

0:26:10.119 --> 0:26:12.920
<v Speaker 2>not possible. You can't have all things at the same time.

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<v Speaker 2>You have to ask yourself, well, what do I want now,

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<v Speaker 2>and then what do I want later? Like Oprah's like

0:26:17.640 --> 0:26:20.720
<v Speaker 2>I can't have baby and do Oprah? Okay, if Oprah

0:26:20.760 --> 0:26:22.680
<v Speaker 2>can't do boths, come on now you have to decide,

0:26:22.680 --> 0:26:26.320
<v Speaker 2>like if you're paying a three four hundred dollars car payment,

0:26:26.359 --> 0:26:30.480
<v Speaker 2>and then another two three hundred in insurance, and then

0:26:30.680 --> 0:26:33.239
<v Speaker 2>you're only making not only but you're making twenty five

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<v Speaker 2>hundred dollars a month. So you just can't have all things.

0:26:36.240 --> 0:26:38.639
<v Speaker 2>You have to make a choice. So living simply is

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<v Speaker 2>one of the ways that I'm able to travel the

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<v Speaker 2>world because I have put travel over me having like

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<v Speaker 2>a super fancy car. That's number one. Living simply.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Like I liked I live. Even though I earn

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<v Speaker 1>like three times as much as I earned when I

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<v Speaker 1>first moved to New York, I still live basically the same.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>I've improved some things, like a nice bed for quality

0:27:02.440 --> 0:27:06.399
<v Speaker 1>of life, like I buy more than one pair of

0:27:06.480 --> 0:27:09.000
<v Speaker 1>shoes a year. I bought some snow boots that are waterproof.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, I really try and keep my like you

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<v Speaker 1>try and avoid lifestyle inflation.

0:27:13.280 --> 0:27:13.800
<v Speaker 2>Exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>I've seen so many friends when they get and they

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<v Speaker 1>get a new raise, or they get like a little

0:27:17.480 --> 0:27:19.000
<v Speaker 1>bump at work or a bonus, and.

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<v Speaker 3>They're like, oh man, I'm rolling in dough.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna like, I'm gonna start ordering seamless every night.

0:27:23.440 --> 0:27:25.879
<v Speaker 1>I'm going on this vacation I'm gonna take my friends

0:27:25.880 --> 0:27:28.040
<v Speaker 1>out to the bar, and that money is gone, and

0:27:28.080 --> 0:27:30.840
<v Speaker 1>then your expenses are higher and you're like, where did

0:27:30.880 --> 0:27:33.399
<v Speaker 1>that raise go? And then that's when you start the

0:27:33.400 --> 0:27:36.600
<v Speaker 1>hamster wheel. You got to keep earning more and earning more, exactly.

0:27:36.680 --> 0:27:38.280
<v Speaker 1>I gotta get the fancy car, I gotta get the

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<v Speaker 1>better house, got get the bigger iPhone. You have to stop,

0:27:41.520 --> 0:27:43.400
<v Speaker 1>like just freeze when you get a raise.

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<v Speaker 2>Freeze exactly. And that's what leads us to NIME. But

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<v Speaker 2>number two for me, which is really just look for

0:27:47.320 --> 0:27:49.600
<v Speaker 2>the discounts. I remember I was talking to these college

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<v Speaker 2>kids and I was telling them. I was bragging about

0:27:51.160 --> 0:27:53.199
<v Speaker 2>some trip I'd been on. I was like, oh, and

0:27:53.240 --> 0:27:56.280
<v Speaker 2>I only pay you know, flight, hotel, all inclusive, like

0:27:56.440 --> 0:27:58.680
<v Speaker 2>seven days whatever it was. I think it was like Jamaica.

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<v Speaker 2>I paid six hundred dollars. And they are like, what,

0:28:01.680 --> 0:28:03.439
<v Speaker 2>but you said you make good money. I'm like I do.

0:28:03.560 --> 0:28:05.800
<v Speaker 2>They're like, well, what does it matter what you paid?

0:28:06.520 --> 0:28:09.960
<v Speaker 2>And I'm like, well, if I pay twelve hundred dollars

0:28:10.000 --> 0:28:11.920
<v Speaker 2>for a trip that I could have gotten for six

0:28:12.000 --> 0:28:16.160
<v Speaker 2>hundred dollars, then that's less money for the next trip.

0:28:16.359 --> 0:28:18.440
<v Speaker 2>Like just because you make a whole lot of money,

0:28:18.480 --> 0:28:21.800
<v Speaker 2>doesn't mean you should spend it wastefully, you know, So

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<v Speaker 2>find the discounts. There's always discounts, like call and ask

0:28:24.600 --> 0:28:26.919
<v Speaker 2>you you know, you never know. You might find out

0:28:26.960 --> 0:28:29.600
<v Speaker 2>that the job that you work with has, you know,

0:28:30.320 --> 0:28:33.280
<v Speaker 2>gives discounts based upon like if you have like I know,

0:28:33.320 --> 0:28:36.520
<v Speaker 2>Sprint does this a lot. They partner with different organizations

0:28:36.560 --> 0:28:39.479
<v Speaker 2>and they will give you, like, oh, fifteen percent off

0:28:39.560 --> 0:28:41.680
<v Speaker 2>your phone bill if you're an Uber driver for example.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean you designate like the same way I do.

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<v Speaker 1>You designate earmark or bit of your savings every month

0:28:48.160 --> 0:28:50.400
<v Speaker 1>toward travel. Yeah, that's the one thing that you like

0:28:50.440 --> 0:28:50.680
<v Speaker 1>to do.

0:28:51.080 --> 0:28:53.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so that's like number three. I allocate, so I

0:28:53.360 --> 0:28:56.720
<v Speaker 2>live by allocations. Like it's the point where now Superman

0:28:56.760 --> 0:28:58.360
<v Speaker 2>will be like when I get paid, He's like, did

0:28:58.400 --> 0:29:00.640
<v Speaker 2>you do your allocation? So here are my alleyations? Right

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<v Speaker 2>for retirement and investing for wealth. I set aside twenty

0:29:04.160 --> 0:29:06.680
<v Speaker 2>percent of my total income, so we get one hundred dollars.

0:29:06.760 --> 0:29:09.320
<v Speaker 2>Twenty dollars goes for retirement and investing for wealth. Those

0:29:09.360 --> 0:29:12.080
<v Speaker 2>are two separate things. Retirement is to maintain the life

0:29:12.120 --> 0:29:15.760
<v Speaker 2>I have. Now, Investing for wealth is to increase the

0:29:15.840 --> 0:29:18.520
<v Speaker 2>life you know that I have now my standard of living.

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<v Speaker 2>Twenty percent goes for taxes because this is like my

0:29:22.160 --> 0:29:23.840
<v Speaker 2>accountant he told me, like, you know, if you set

0:29:23.880 --> 0:29:26.760
<v Speaker 2>aside twenty percent of your total income, then that should

0:29:26.760 --> 0:29:30.080
<v Speaker 2>be enough. And I pay my taxes like quarterly. Five

0:29:30.120 --> 0:29:33.480
<v Speaker 2>percent I set aside for debt. I still have student

0:29:33.520 --> 0:29:35.000
<v Speaker 2>loans fro when I got my master's, I paid off

0:29:35.040 --> 0:29:38.680
<v Speaker 2>my undergrad loans, but these masters on it the masterest.

0:29:40.440 --> 0:29:43.880
<v Speaker 2>Ten percent I donate. I really believe in giving back,

0:29:43.960 --> 0:29:49.240
<v Speaker 2>so whatever, like sometimes it's a person, sometimes it's an organization,

0:29:49.960 --> 0:29:53.040
<v Speaker 2>it could be a cost. So I set aside ten

0:29:53.080 --> 0:29:55.920
<v Speaker 2>percent of my income to give back. Five percent I

0:29:56.000 --> 0:29:59.960
<v Speaker 2>put an emergency fund. Five percent I set aside for track,

0:30:00.840 --> 0:30:03.520
<v Speaker 2>and that leads me at the end with thirty five

0:30:03.560 --> 0:30:06.960
<v Speaker 2>percent of my total income for life and business spending.

0:30:07.400 --> 0:30:09.560
<v Speaker 2>And so I don't always hit those allocations, Like no

0:30:09.640 --> 0:30:12.560
<v Speaker 2>matter what I tell myself, I have to set aside

0:30:12.560 --> 0:30:16.200
<v Speaker 2>for retirement, I have to set aside for taxes, and

0:30:16.240 --> 0:30:18.400
<v Speaker 2>I have to donate. Everything else is kind of like okay,

0:30:18.440 --> 0:30:20.320
<v Speaker 2>if I get to it, I get to it. So

0:30:20.680 --> 0:30:23.120
<v Speaker 2>but those are things I always set aside for But

0:30:23.280 --> 0:30:27.600
<v Speaker 2>my ideal allocations are that twenty percent retirement besting twenty percent, taxes,

0:30:27.640 --> 0:30:31.040
<v Speaker 2>ten percent donate, five percent debt, five percent emergency fund,

0:30:31.080 --> 0:30:33.760
<v Speaker 2>five percent travel, and the rest thirty five percent for

0:30:33.880 --> 0:30:36.680
<v Speaker 2>life and business. And so when I posted it, people

0:30:36.720 --> 0:30:39.800
<v Speaker 2>were like, ooh, now the caveat is that this is

0:30:39.960 --> 0:30:44.440
<v Speaker 2>my percentage. Then I just started doing these percentages this year.

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<v Speaker 2>You have to ask yourself what they would look like

0:30:47.400 --> 0:30:49.840
<v Speaker 2>for you. You might not travel, might not be a

0:30:49.880 --> 0:30:52.719
<v Speaker 2>huge deal for you. So you're just like, you know what,

0:30:52.840 --> 0:30:55.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm actually not going to set aside five percent for travel.

0:30:55.880 --> 0:30:58.120
<v Speaker 2>Maybe it's five percent for clothes. You might not have

0:30:58.160 --> 0:31:00.040
<v Speaker 2>any debt, so you don't have to set aside a

0:31:00.120 --> 0:31:02.600
<v Speaker 2>percentage for day, you know, and.

0:31:02.720 --> 0:31:05.680
<v Speaker 1>We should put that budget up on the tumbler. Okay,

0:31:05.720 --> 0:31:07.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying for that, and it'd be really cool for

0:31:07.080 --> 0:31:07.680
<v Speaker 1>you to look at.

0:31:08.200 --> 0:31:11.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So I mean, honestly, it's just about and that's

0:31:11.920 --> 0:31:13.920
<v Speaker 2>how I'm able to, like, you know, because you know, Manny,

0:31:13.960 --> 0:31:16.160
<v Speaker 2>you know living this. You live in New York. So

0:31:16.240 --> 0:31:19.200
<v Speaker 2>if you want to kind of like enjoy life, I

0:31:19.200 --> 0:31:21.640
<v Speaker 2>think people think like budgets. Tell them no, And I'm

0:31:21.640 --> 0:31:24.920
<v Speaker 2>like man my budget tells me, hell yeah.

0:31:24.920 --> 0:31:28.000
<v Speaker 1>You know, my favorite Every pay day, my favorite thing

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<v Speaker 1>to do, The first thing I check is my savings account,

0:31:30.840 --> 0:31:33.640
<v Speaker 1>and I automate. This is different for you because obviously

0:31:33.640 --> 0:31:35.640
<v Speaker 1>you run your own business, and so it takes even

0:31:35.640 --> 0:31:38.160
<v Speaker 1>a lot more willpower on your part because you are

0:31:38.160 --> 0:31:40.880
<v Speaker 1>paying yourself and you have to have even more self

0:31:40.920 --> 0:31:45.360
<v Speaker 1>control over what you spend. But for me, the biggest breakthrough,

0:31:45.480 --> 0:31:48.880
<v Speaker 1>or the biggest ally for me and my spending is

0:31:48.960 --> 0:31:52.880
<v Speaker 1>auto pay and auto sorry, direct deposit. I should say

0:31:52.920 --> 0:31:56.600
<v Speaker 1>where I automatically when I get paid, more than fifty

0:31:56.600 --> 0:31:58.960
<v Speaker 1>percent of my income goes in some sort of savings,

0:31:59.160 --> 0:32:03.360
<v Speaker 1>whether it's for my retirement or you know, future travel

0:32:03.480 --> 0:32:05.920
<v Speaker 1>or my emergency fund. I'm saving up to buy a

0:32:05.960 --> 0:32:08.200
<v Speaker 1>house one day, and I have money going along, and

0:32:08.280 --> 0:32:11.280
<v Speaker 1>that money is completely out, like it doesn't even touch

0:32:11.760 --> 0:32:13.600
<v Speaker 1>my checking account. In fact, I have it in a

0:32:13.640 --> 0:32:15.800
<v Speaker 1>savings account that it's not easy for me to access.

0:32:15.840 --> 0:32:18.160
<v Speaker 1>I don't have an ATM card for it. I cannot.

0:32:18.560 --> 0:32:20.200
<v Speaker 1>It would take me a few days to transfer whatever

0:32:20.200 --> 0:32:22.440
<v Speaker 1>I wanted it. And that's been huge for me, and

0:32:22.520 --> 0:32:24.320
<v Speaker 1>it's been a huge way for me to just like

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<v Speaker 1>not even miss it and you think that you can't survive.

0:32:27.680 --> 0:32:30.840
<v Speaker 1>Like I, it's my budget. Like, legitimately, all I have

0:32:30.960 --> 0:32:33.920
<v Speaker 1>to spend every pay period is five hundred dollars. That's food,

0:32:34.400 --> 0:32:37.080
<v Speaker 1>that's entertainment. That's if I want to buy a new

0:32:37.080 --> 0:32:38.680
<v Speaker 1>pair of shoes, or like if I need to go

0:32:38.760 --> 0:32:41.560
<v Speaker 1>travel for the holidays. That's the money I have to spend.

0:32:41.600 --> 0:32:44.440
<v Speaker 1>And it's really challenging. It's like what I was making

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<v Speaker 1>in college.

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<v Speaker 2>Basically, let me hold sun. What is that?

0:32:49.840 --> 0:32:50.240
<v Speaker 4>A lot?

0:32:51.000 --> 0:32:52.760
<v Speaker 2>One? If my friend always says that whatever, I'm like, oh,

0:32:52.760 --> 0:32:54.320
<v Speaker 2>I got paid today or I got a check today,

0:32:54.360 --> 0:32:59.160
<v Speaker 2>She's always like, let me be a whole soun No.

0:32:59.280 --> 0:33:01.880
<v Speaker 2>That's dope though, But like because like you said, telling

0:33:01.920 --> 0:33:06.440
<v Speaker 2>yourself no really means telling yourself yes to other aspects

0:33:06.480 --> 0:33:09.800
<v Speaker 2>of your life. I think people it's like a mindset

0:33:09.920 --> 0:33:12.880
<v Speaker 2>really issue. It's like, oh, man, I have less, That's

0:33:13.000 --> 0:33:15.120
<v Speaker 2>just not true. You know, my friends would tease me

0:33:15.160 --> 0:33:16.520
<v Speaker 2>and call me cheap back in the day, But then

0:33:16.520 --> 0:33:18.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, yeah, I just spent my birthday in the Bahamas,

0:33:19.240 --> 0:33:21.880
<v Speaker 2>you know, and before that I was I forgot. I

0:33:21.880 --> 0:33:24.200
<v Speaker 2>mean last year for my birthday I was in I

0:33:24.400 --> 0:33:26.400
<v Speaker 2>spent it in Greece and Turkey, and before that, I

0:33:26.480 --> 0:33:30.480
<v Speaker 2>was in Morocco and Spain. And so that's not a

0:33:30.600 --> 0:33:33.720
<v Speaker 2>no life, that's a yes life. By telling the things

0:33:33.720 --> 0:33:36.560
<v Speaker 2>that don't matter to me, nah, I don't really need it.

0:33:36.600 --> 0:33:38.560
<v Speaker 1>You know, you have to be clear about what you're

0:33:38.600 --> 0:33:41.440
<v Speaker 1>saving for exactly. I went through a period where I

0:33:41.440 --> 0:33:44.320
<v Speaker 1>had saving I had seven different savings accounts, and I

0:33:44.400 --> 0:33:46.840
<v Speaker 1>don't have that many anymore. I've kind of like simplified things,

0:33:46.840 --> 0:33:49.240
<v Speaker 1>but like I named each of them a different thing. Yes,

0:33:49.520 --> 0:33:53.320
<v Speaker 1>it's laptop I needed to do, laptop, Costa Rica. Trip

0:33:53.360 --> 0:33:55.000
<v Speaker 1>I needed to go on a vacation ended up being

0:33:55.000 --> 0:33:56.960
<v Speaker 1>Puerto Rico, not Costa Rica. But you know, the idea

0:33:57.040 --> 0:34:00.640
<v Speaker 1>was there, you know, like trip home for the holidays,

0:34:00.680 --> 0:34:03.360
<v Speaker 1>holidays spending, that's what I needed. That like putting an

0:34:03.400 --> 0:34:05.920
<v Speaker 1>image and a name to what you're saving for, that

0:34:06.200 --> 0:34:08.040
<v Speaker 1>is what because then it's harder for you to take

0:34:08.120 --> 0:34:11.840
<v Speaker 1>money out of your like Grandma's Christmas present exactly.

0:34:11.880 --> 0:34:13.760
<v Speaker 2>And then too, like you said, if you can actually

0:34:13.840 --> 0:34:16.719
<v Speaker 2>name so I suggest to people like Mandy said that,

0:34:16.960 --> 0:34:19.360
<v Speaker 2>I would suggest you go. There's this great website me

0:34:19.360 --> 0:34:22.640
<v Speaker 2>and Mandy both love called Magnify Money dot com and

0:34:22.680 --> 0:34:24.560
<v Speaker 2>if you go to Magnify Money, you can kind of

0:34:24.600 --> 0:34:28.200
<v Speaker 2>like peruse kind of what kind of online only banks

0:34:28.239 --> 0:34:30.879
<v Speaker 2>there are and look for savings accounts there. So there's

0:34:30.880 --> 0:34:33.040
<v Speaker 2>a bunch of like online only banks. There's like Ally

0:34:33.120 --> 0:34:36.440
<v Speaker 2>and like Capital one three sixty and ge Capital and

0:34:36.480 --> 0:34:38.920
<v Speaker 2>a whole bunch, so you can peruse and kind of

0:34:38.920 --> 0:34:41.280
<v Speaker 2>go through and look to see, you know, how they're rated,

0:34:41.520 --> 0:34:43.640
<v Speaker 2>and you're gonna look for free savings and I think

0:34:43.680 --> 0:34:46.200
<v Speaker 2>most savings are free, but every once in a while

0:34:46.200 --> 0:34:49.120
<v Speaker 2>you might find one that charges a fee, but FDIC

0:34:49.280 --> 0:34:52.600
<v Speaker 2>insured free and you want to look for savings that

0:34:52.680 --> 0:34:54.960
<v Speaker 2>gives you the highest interest. You know, you earn the

0:34:55.000 --> 0:34:57.759
<v Speaker 2>highest amount of money on your money. And then you

0:34:57.920 --> 0:35:01.359
<v Speaker 2>open up it's critical that's on line only, meaning there's

0:35:01.400 --> 0:35:04.799
<v Speaker 2>no physical location. Because one, what that means is they

0:35:04.840 --> 0:35:06.680
<v Speaker 2>don't have the overhead as a regular bank, so they're

0:35:06.680 --> 0:35:09.760
<v Speaker 2>going to pass that savings onto you. And then two,

0:35:10.239 --> 0:35:13.640
<v Speaker 2>it makes your money inconvenient and inconvenient money gets saved.

0:35:13.840 --> 0:35:16.440
<v Speaker 2>Here's how you're at Target, which is my favorite place

0:35:16.480 --> 0:35:19.279
<v Speaker 2>to waste away in my life and money. Target just

0:35:19.320 --> 0:35:21.520
<v Speaker 2>makes you, like it makes you happy to be broken,

0:35:21.600 --> 0:35:23.759
<v Speaker 2>Like I'm so broke. It took all my money, and

0:35:23.800 --> 0:35:27.600
<v Speaker 2>you're still smiling. So you're at Target, see something really

0:35:27.600 --> 0:35:29.160
<v Speaker 2>cute and you really want it. You look at your

0:35:29.239 --> 0:35:32.280
<v Speaker 2>checking account on your phone, and your checking account says nope.

0:35:32.440 --> 0:35:34.800
<v Speaker 2>You look at your savings account on your phone, and

0:35:34.400 --> 0:35:37.480
<v Speaker 2>your savings account says yes. And if it's at a

0:35:37.480 --> 0:35:41.400
<v Speaker 2>regular bank, then you could transfer easily from your checking

0:35:41.600 --> 0:35:43.960
<v Speaker 2>from your savings to your checking and spend that money,

0:35:44.520 --> 0:35:46.840
<v Speaker 2>you know. But if it's at an online only bank,

0:35:47.200 --> 0:35:49.960
<v Speaker 2>it takes like two to five business days to transfer

0:35:50.040 --> 0:35:53.080
<v Speaker 2>your money from your savings account at the online only

0:35:53.120 --> 0:35:55.680
<v Speaker 2>bank back to your checking account at your regular bank.

0:35:56.400 --> 0:35:58.839
<v Speaker 2>So unless you point on sleeping at Target for two

0:35:58.840 --> 0:36:01.239
<v Speaker 2>to five business days, you're not getting that outfit or

0:36:01.360 --> 0:36:04.800
<v Speaker 2>dress or whatever. Yeah. So that's one of the ways that, like, honestly,

0:36:04.800 --> 0:36:07.719
<v Speaker 2>that has helped significantly. Because I'm not super disciplined. People

0:36:07.719 --> 0:36:10.080
<v Speaker 2>think like, oh, you're so disciplined. No, I just know

0:36:10.120 --> 0:36:12.440
<v Speaker 2>how to throw up those like barriers for myself, like

0:36:12.840 --> 0:36:15.200
<v Speaker 2>you know, your weaknesses exactly, Like I can't get to

0:36:15.280 --> 0:36:17.040
<v Speaker 2>my money, never mind, I'll leave it, you know.

0:36:17.480 --> 0:36:20.280
<v Speaker 1>And that is why I unsubscribe from gaps email list

0:36:20.480 --> 0:36:23.359
<v Speaker 1>and jam cruise email list all those retail Oh my god.

0:36:23.680 --> 0:36:26.760
<v Speaker 1>And secretly, my sister was complaining about I love my sister,

0:36:27.160 --> 0:36:29.520
<v Speaker 1>but she was complaining about like getting all these you know,

0:36:29.600 --> 0:36:31.440
<v Speaker 1>like being drawn in by these email offers from this

0:36:31.520 --> 0:36:34.280
<v Speaker 1>one retailer she loved. And I snuck into her email

0:36:34.280 --> 0:36:35.200
<v Speaker 1>and unsubscribed.

0:36:35.640 --> 0:36:38.120
<v Speaker 3>Ooh, like I'm going to save you all this trouble.

0:36:40.160 --> 0:36:42.960
<v Speaker 1>She stops shopping there, out of sight, out of mind. Yes,

0:36:43.760 --> 0:36:48.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm a little controlling though, just trying to help anyway. Yeah,

0:36:48.800 --> 0:36:51.160
<v Speaker 1>I think lifestyle inflation is very toxic, and you have

0:36:51.280 --> 0:36:55.919
<v Speaker 1>to Yeah, you have to keep say realistic and think

0:36:56.000 --> 0:36:59.360
<v Speaker 1>small with're with your lifestyle. Like you don't have to

0:36:59.600 --> 0:37:03.600
<v Speaker 1>run early before you crawl. That's really corny, but like

0:37:03.719 --> 0:37:05.400
<v Speaker 1>be slow just because you get a raise, Like the

0:37:05.440 --> 0:37:08.319
<v Speaker 1>average person only gets three percent raise each year. That

0:37:08.520 --> 0:37:12.080
<v Speaker 1>is not like magic Johnson money. Like you're not the car. No,

0:37:12.160 --> 0:37:14.320
<v Speaker 1>that's not paying for a new car exactly.

0:37:14.400 --> 0:37:16.400
<v Speaker 2>People aren't actually seeing people be like, oh, I'll figure

0:37:16.400 --> 0:37:18.759
<v Speaker 2>it out. I'm like, you know, math is universal, right,

0:37:20.520 --> 0:37:22.560
<v Speaker 2>Like I've got people be like, oh, I'm making know

0:37:22.560 --> 0:37:24.520
<v Speaker 2>one thousand dollars a month and my car note is

0:37:24.560 --> 0:37:27.280
<v Speaker 2>eight hundred you're like, so, I guess you're not eating

0:37:27.360 --> 0:37:29.680
<v Speaker 2>or sleeping anywhere. No, I'll figured it out. No, you're

0:37:29.680 --> 0:37:32.360
<v Speaker 2>not gonna figure it out. Like, there's no if you

0:37:32.400 --> 0:37:35.040
<v Speaker 2>make a thousand and you're paying eight hundred towards your car,

0:37:35.160 --> 0:37:40.320
<v Speaker 2>that's two hundred left over for rent, food, toiletries, groceries,

0:37:40.520 --> 0:37:43.719
<v Speaker 2>just everything. It's just not possible, you know. And yeah,

0:37:43.760 --> 0:37:48.080
<v Speaker 2>I just wish that people just really trusted in the

0:37:48.080 --> 0:37:52.120
<v Speaker 2>science of mathematics and stop for the fact that you

0:37:52.120 --> 0:37:56.239
<v Speaker 2>know one plus one, you know equals too, and you know,

0:37:56.440 --> 0:37:59.080
<v Speaker 2>if you don't make enough, it's not going to magically

0:37:59.120 --> 0:38:02.520
<v Speaker 2>come up. Only time that I've seen money magically work,

0:38:03.360 --> 0:38:06.520
<v Speaker 2>this is the only instance that money will magically work

0:38:06.560 --> 0:38:09.040
<v Speaker 2>for you is when you have a kid. That's the

0:38:09.040 --> 0:38:11.080
<v Speaker 2>only way that I've seen people say, I don't know

0:38:11.120 --> 0:38:14.160
<v Speaker 2>how I was able to do it, but somehow we

0:38:14.560 --> 0:38:16.760
<v Speaker 2>couldn't afford our life before. But now we have a baby,

0:38:16.840 --> 0:38:18.600
<v Speaker 2>and somehow the baby is still eating.

0:38:19.040 --> 0:38:22.320
<v Speaker 1>You know, that's a human life at stake exactly.

0:38:22.360 --> 0:38:25.000
<v Speaker 2>That's the only time I see like it somehow make

0:38:25.080 --> 0:38:27.880
<v Speaker 2>it way. It doesn't make its way for Puerto Rico

0:38:28.080 --> 0:38:30.040
<v Speaker 2>or Cayman Islands, Like no you don't get that same

0:38:30.080 --> 0:38:31.680
<v Speaker 2>magic trick for those things.

0:38:32.360 --> 0:38:34.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I get these weird I get always emails from

0:38:34.480 --> 0:38:36.120
<v Speaker 1>people saying, you know, like, oh, I make I make

0:38:36.160 --> 0:38:38.120
<v Speaker 1>this much and I need these are my expenses, and

0:38:38.160 --> 0:38:40.399
<v Speaker 1>I just earn less than what I have right now,

0:38:40.400 --> 0:38:42.759
<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, at a certain point, budgeting, can we

0:38:42.800 --> 0:38:45.200
<v Speaker 1>take you so far? You have to focus on growing

0:38:45.239 --> 0:38:48.520
<v Speaker 1>your wealth and you have to be investing your savings.

0:38:49.080 --> 0:38:51.880
<v Speaker 1>Once you've saved enough for emergencies, you should be investing

0:38:51.920 --> 0:38:55.360
<v Speaker 1>that in an account where you can actually earn enough

0:38:55.400 --> 0:38:58.160
<v Speaker 1>to beat inflation, which is going to eat your money

0:38:58.239 --> 0:39:00.560
<v Speaker 1>up like a little rat or like a little gerbil.

0:39:01.040 --> 0:39:03.520
<v Speaker 1>You know, you have to prepare yourself in that that

0:39:03.560 --> 0:39:06.520
<v Speaker 1>It means investing in the IRA, you know, investing in

0:39:06.520 --> 0:39:08.800
<v Speaker 1>a savings account that had a little bit of interest

0:39:08.920 --> 0:39:12.000
<v Speaker 1>like these online banks we're talking about, and it means

0:39:12.040 --> 0:39:16.920
<v Speaker 1>earning more and even though it seems counterintuitive, spending money

0:39:16.920 --> 0:39:20.880
<v Speaker 1>on things that will increase your human capital are very important. Yeah,

0:39:20.920 --> 0:39:22.840
<v Speaker 1>And when we talk about human capital, it's like Tiffany's

0:39:22.840 --> 0:39:26.640
<v Speaker 1>master's degree. You know, I wanted to go back and

0:39:27.000 --> 0:39:30.040
<v Speaker 1>earn a certification in financial planning and that would help

0:39:30.080 --> 0:39:32.560
<v Speaker 1>me in my professional career. It is a little money out,

0:39:32.800 --> 0:39:35.840
<v Speaker 1>but it will bring more money in the future, and

0:39:35.880 --> 0:39:37.080
<v Speaker 1>that's an investment worth making.

0:39:37.120 --> 0:39:50.560
<v Speaker 3>I think, yeah.

0:39:50.480 --> 0:39:53.560
<v Speaker 1>It's brand ambition. Let's do the wins.

0:39:55.719 --> 0:39:57.959
<v Speaker 2>My win this week A is what is my win?

0:39:58.800 --> 0:40:01.960
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, so Manna be awesome, you go first.

0:40:02.120 --> 0:40:04.040
<v Speaker 1>I'll do my first. I wanted to call out I

0:40:04.080 --> 0:40:09.160
<v Speaker 1>wanted to shout out Ava Duverne, the extraordinary director of Selma,

0:40:09.239 --> 0:40:14.520
<v Speaker 1>obviously award winning Oscar winning film Selma. They won the

0:40:14.520 --> 0:40:16.799
<v Speaker 1>Oscar for Best Song. I think she's in the cover

0:40:16.840 --> 0:40:20.400
<v Speaker 1>of Elle magazine. Unfortunately, she's not the only cover on

0:40:20.480 --> 0:40:22.840
<v Speaker 1>Elle magazine. She's like one of eight women, and I

0:40:22.840 --> 0:40:25.560
<v Speaker 1>think she's one of like two women of color, including

0:40:25.600 --> 0:40:28.200
<v Speaker 1>Salma Hayek, out of these eight women. But I thought

0:40:28.200 --> 0:40:30.800
<v Speaker 1>I was really cool because they're all actors, they're all models,

0:40:30.800 --> 0:40:33.120
<v Speaker 1>and like she is a director. She's literally behind the

0:40:33.120 --> 0:40:35.520
<v Speaker 1>camera and they yanked her out. They said, you're amazing,

0:40:35.600 --> 0:40:38.000
<v Speaker 1>we're putting on the front cover and she uses the

0:40:38.000 --> 0:40:40.800
<v Speaker 1>platform to talk about the need for more diversity and filmmaking.

0:40:40.840 --> 0:40:44.600
<v Speaker 1>Thought that was awesome. Also, she favored my tweet on Twitter,

0:40:44.680 --> 0:40:47.480
<v Speaker 1>and I like lost myself. I lost everything. I lost

0:40:47.520 --> 0:40:50.440
<v Speaker 1>all my cool. I tweeted about the commercial she did

0:40:50.480 --> 0:40:55.440
<v Speaker 1>for Apple Apple Music with Taraji and with what's her

0:40:55.440 --> 0:40:56.520
<v Speaker 1>face scandal?

0:40:57.280 --> 0:40:59.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, Olivia Poto.

0:40:59.239 --> 0:41:00.839
<v Speaker 1>Kry Washington, Yeah and married.

0:41:01.920 --> 0:41:07.160
<v Speaker 2>I'm like Olivia, So your tweet, Oh my god, I

0:41:07.200 --> 0:41:09.120
<v Speaker 2>would have favored her favoriting my tweet.

0:41:09.200 --> 0:41:11.000
<v Speaker 1>I may have took it. I may have taken a screenshop.

0:41:13.640 --> 0:41:15.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to think. So I had one, But I

0:41:16.280 --> 0:41:18.040
<v Speaker 2>think this is gonna be a win. I don't know.

0:41:18.200 --> 0:41:20.319
<v Speaker 2>It's not super brown, but it's kind of So. There's

0:41:20.360 --> 0:41:24.680
<v Speaker 2>this woman who started this nonprofit called the Birthday the

0:41:24.680 --> 0:41:29.120
<v Speaker 2>Birthday Party Project, where she I guess she was having

0:41:29.120 --> 0:41:32.840
<v Speaker 2>a baby, her first baby, and planning it's her baby's

0:41:32.880 --> 0:41:35.560
<v Speaker 2>birthday party. And I don't know how she's a party

0:41:35.600 --> 0:41:39.360
<v Speaker 2>planner by profession. Somehow, I guess she started volunteering at

0:41:39.360 --> 0:41:41.120
<v Speaker 2>a homo shelter or something like that, and she realized

0:41:41.320 --> 0:41:45.600
<v Speaker 2>there were all these kids who never got to experience

0:41:45.719 --> 0:41:47.800
<v Speaker 2>like what it was like to have a birthday party.

0:41:48.640 --> 0:41:50.800
<v Speaker 2>And she thought, you know what, you know, I know

0:41:50.920 --> 0:41:54.600
<v Speaker 2>how to plan parties, and she began planning birthday parties

0:41:54.640 --> 0:42:00.680
<v Speaker 2>for children in homeless shelters and the joy on these kids' faces, Like, honestly,

0:42:00.800 --> 0:42:02.120
<v Speaker 2>it just made me want to just give her all

0:42:02.160 --> 0:42:05.440
<v Speaker 2>my money because it was just such a because you know,

0:42:05.880 --> 0:42:07.880
<v Speaker 2>what I find, unfortunately, is I used to do a

0:42:07.920 --> 0:42:11.840
<v Speaker 2>lot of volunteering with the homeless population here in Newark,

0:42:11.880 --> 0:42:15.560
<v Speaker 2>and what I found was that so many times, you know,

0:42:15.600 --> 0:42:17.839
<v Speaker 2>people focus on just the essentials, because I get it,

0:42:18.040 --> 0:42:19.799
<v Speaker 2>you focus on the essentials because you're like, oh, you

0:42:19.800 --> 0:42:22.520
<v Speaker 2>need food, chucks or clothing, water, but they forget that

0:42:22.600 --> 0:42:26.960
<v Speaker 2>you know, you're homeless, but you're human. Hello, And sometimes

0:42:26.960 --> 0:42:29.080
<v Speaker 2>people forget that because they feel like, well, that's not essential,

0:42:29.160 --> 0:42:31.520
<v Speaker 2>you don't need that. But I remember volunteering at this

0:42:31.640 --> 0:42:35.240
<v Speaker 2>church that used to do like game night for homeless

0:42:35.239 --> 0:42:37.880
<v Speaker 2>folks on like Thursdays, and I thought, I'm like, that

0:42:37.880 --> 0:42:40.520
<v Speaker 2>seems kind of wasteful until I went and I realized,

0:42:40.560 --> 0:42:44.839
<v Speaker 2>like because they were trying to like maintain like not

0:42:44.880 --> 0:42:48.120
<v Speaker 2>feeling like they were, you know, not human beings, you know.

0:42:48.760 --> 0:42:51.840
<v Speaker 2>And I just love the fact that she had picked

0:42:51.960 --> 0:42:54.360
<v Speaker 2>up on this you know this I don't know, this

0:42:54.480 --> 0:42:56.839
<v Speaker 2>project for kids and just the joy on their faces

0:42:56.880 --> 0:42:58.040
<v Speaker 2>because a lot of their parents they don't I mean

0:42:58.040 --> 0:43:00.440
<v Speaker 2>obviously their parents don't have it and it's not an

0:43:00.520 --> 0:43:03.040
<v Speaker 2>essential item, and so it's not something that's provided for

0:43:03.080 --> 0:43:05.319
<v Speaker 2>these kids. And so the woman, I forget her name,

0:43:05.360 --> 0:43:07.120
<v Speaker 2>but if you go to the Today Show dot com,

0:43:07.200 --> 0:43:09.239
<v Speaker 2>they did like a whole special or whatever on her

0:43:09.960 --> 0:43:12.320
<v Speaker 2>and a lot of these kids are Brown, so accounts

0:43:12.520 --> 0:43:14.800
<v Speaker 2>although the woman who started it it's not brown, but whatever,

0:43:14.840 --> 0:43:17.799
<v Speaker 2>she's honorary Brown. Because I think this is such an

0:43:17.800 --> 0:43:20.960
<v Speaker 2>awesome idea and the joy that these kids experience for

0:43:21.120 --> 0:43:33.680
<v Speaker 2>being made to feel special this one day on their birthday. Yeah, well,

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<v Speaker 2>that has been it for Brown Ambition. I hope you

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<v Speaker 2>enjoyed as much as we enjoyed you. You can find

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<v Speaker 2>us always at Brownambition dot.

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<v Speaker 1>Com, Brannambition podcast dot com.

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<v Speaker 2>Brown Ambition podcast dot com. You can find it out.

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<v Speaker 2>You can find this at Brown Ambition on Facebook, the

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<v Speaker 2>BA podcast on Twitter, and where can they Email us.

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<v Speaker 1>At Brand Ambition Podcast at gmail dot com. And next

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<v Speaker 1>week we're going to be revealing the winners of our

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<v Speaker 1>Brown Ambition review giveaway iTunes review giveaway. And thank you

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<v Speaker 1>so much to everyone who's been emailing us screenshots of

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<v Speaker 1>your review. It's awesome We've gotten your emails. We've gotten

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<v Speaker 1>your tweets, we've gotten your Facebook comments saying how much

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<v Speaker 1>you love the show. But it really really would be

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<v Speaker 1>helpful if you guys left reviews on iTunes. It helps

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<v Speaker 1>people find us, it helps our show get more visibility

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<v Speaker 1>in the iTunes store. That'd be awesome if you can

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<v Speaker 1>leave a review and then take a quick screenshot. Email

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<v Speaker 1>us at Brown Ambition Podcast at gmail dot com, and

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<v Speaker 1>we will be selecting winners of our burn Ambition giveaway

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<v Speaker 1>next week on the show Can't Wait. Yeah, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>Tiffany birthday girl?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, ibut up by ConA down, Go.

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<v Speaker 1>Make Superman his girl cheese or whatever is on the

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<v Speaker 1>menu for tonight.

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<v Speaker 3>Then it is done.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm definitely gonna make him some some hugs and

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<v Speaker 2>kitchens and snuggles.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, alright, let's talk to you later, r B.

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<v Speaker 2>Alright, bye,