Speaker 1: That video makes me sad because growing up, I thought
Speaker 1: that's what adult life was gonna be.
Speaker 2: Like, I thought that about I thought that about everything.
Speaker 2: I've only cheated on women because unmated it sounds great.
Speaker 2: It's hectic, It's hectic as fuck. He's never like, oh,
Speaker 2: I'm getting all these text messages warm at work. He
Speaker 2: never sings about that.
Speaker 1: Mark bro I thought me and my own was getting
Speaker 1: to escalade going to the club and started jig yup
Speaker 1: the whole time for Yearly Club. Yeah, you can't even
Speaker 1: it's so much hookah smoke. Now you trying to you
Speaker 1: trying to get you, try to get some movement going.
Speaker 1: You're gonna have some respiratory issues. Man, it's sick.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's ain't what they promised is.
Speaker 4: That's for damn Shrek chips in your.
Speaker 5: Quality, racist, the the money, turkey stuff I can't tell me.
Speaker 2: Welcome, Welcome, Welcome to another episode of My Mama Told Me.
Speaker 4: The podcast where we dive deep, deep into the pockets
Speaker 4: of black conspiracy theories.
Speaker 2: And we finally work to prove what the fuck is
Speaker 2: wrong with Terry. Because I don't know whose team is on,
Speaker 2: not mine, not mine.
Speaker 4: I think I think the only people that could truly
Speaker 4: claim Terry Crews as a teammate. A like those muscle
Speaker 4: beach men, you know what I mean, Like it ain't black,
Speaker 4: it ain't white, it's it's it's oily titty men.
Speaker 2: Or other people who like agree, people who are into
Speaker 2: saying they're addicted to porn. I don't trust. Yeah, what
Speaker 2: I don't trust you're addicted to porn. We all are
Speaker 2: grow up, we got climate change. You're worried about jerking.
Speaker 4: What do you think you're special because you because you've
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Speaker 2: I bet in the nooks and crannies. He's not even
Speaker 2: in the nooks and crannies.
Speaker 3: I bet my.
Speaker 2: If we're looking for search terms, I beat Terry Crews
Speaker 2: every day. He's never.
Speaker 3: He's never.
Speaker 4: Here's what I like about what you're saying is that
Speaker 4: I do think that that might be what haunts him
Speaker 4: the most, is that he's sitting there and he's basically
Speaker 4: just looking up missionary sex on these fucking websites. And
Speaker 4: it's like, well, I'm addicted to that, then I'm a
Speaker 4: piece of ship.
Speaker 2: That is, you are a piece of ship because I'm exploratory.
Speaker 2: I get so deep on there sometimes I'm like, I
Speaker 2: don't even know if this is porn. I think this
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Speaker 4: And that's what porn is for, because you're not you're
Speaker 4: you're not going to be able to access that with
Speaker 4: a family committed whatever. Bullshit that we're all finding ourselves.
Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying. I'm on pornography to do stuff
Speaker 4: I can't do in real life. And Terry Crews is
Speaker 4: looking up a black lady who looks pretty close to
Speaker 4: white with a fade, and that's his fucking wife, you.
Speaker 3: Know what I mean.
Speaker 4: Like he's literally looking for his wife, but he's doing
Speaker 4: it just the skew of his wife.
Speaker 2: And he's like, oh no, this is a sin. This
Speaker 2: is He's looking up like do you remember KP and
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Speaker 3: For all it was worth. Huh.
Speaker 2: I think we did a good job. I think that
Speaker 2: was pretty good for not having a joke, Critton.
Speaker 3: I thought we nailed it straight up.
Speaker 4: I mean, I say, God, well, you know who always
Speaker 4: has a joke written? You know who's never unprepared is
Speaker 4: our guest today. He's so fucking funny. I think we
Speaker 4: talked about having him on the podcast, you and and I.
Speaker 4: You mentioned him, and my eyes lit up because I'm
Speaker 4: so excited. He's hilarious. He's an Atlanta local joker, is
Speaker 4: the way that he described himself to us, but I
Speaker 4: think he's much more than that. So fucking funny. Give
Speaker 4: it up for our guests, Manda.
Speaker 3: That's a hard record, right, I turned that up. I'm
Speaker 3: a big hey, thank you for having me.
Speaker 1: Is a man sandal, okay, a man against negativity, distributor
Speaker 1: all love.
Speaker 3: Please say the whole thing. Please say the whole thing
Speaker 3: every time.
Speaker 4: Oh sorry, sorry, I didn't I didn't take that. I
Speaker 4: did ask you what you wanted me to say. You
Speaker 4: didn't say none of that. You you were just like yeah.
Speaker 1: Because if I would have told you that, then I
Speaker 1: couldn't have said the previous sentence.
Speaker 3: I just I got you right.
Speaker 2: Professional.
Speaker 3: Everything is a setup, man.
Speaker 4: I love that. I love this setup. I love the
Speaker 4: whole thing. Let's let's not dilly or dally here, because
Speaker 4: you came to us with a conspiracy theory that I
Speaker 4: had never heard of. Bory, I don't know where you
Speaker 4: fall in the in the this is a real thing
Speaker 4: or not a real thing for you conversation.
Speaker 2: I did not know. I did not, but it. I mean,
Speaker 2: you're gonna say it. It makes sense to me, is
Speaker 2: what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Oh, immediately you were like, hell, yeah, I'm bought in.
Speaker 2: Bro, you know what I mean. Body parts, I've heard dancing.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Well, yeah, let's let's get to it. And then,
Speaker 2: because this is exciting, you said, my mama told.
Speaker 3: Me a girl dying from doing the name with It
Speaker 3: rock with It too.
Speaker 4: Hard at a dance party and snapped her neck.
Speaker 3: For sure. So so I'm a little long winded, the
Speaker 3: trap head. So the year.
Speaker 1: The year's two thousand and seven, right, year two thousand
Speaker 1: and seven. Congratulations, you just got suspended for wearing a
Speaker 1: Snowman T shirt the GJU.
Speaker 2: They can't bannon it, they can't ban them.
Speaker 3: You got suspend where they did band them from Atlanta
Speaker 3: public schools.
Speaker 1: You got suspended for wearing at the school after the
Speaker 1: principal said stop warned you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she said, and you said, you can't ban the snowman.
Speaker 3: You said, you can't ban the snowman, and she did
Speaker 3: band it. She banned you instead.
Speaker 1: And then and then you had on either some rebox
Speaker 1: soldiers or you had on that era of TEMs that
Speaker 1: would be like one color and then another color on
Speaker 1: the side, and then the tongue was that other color.
Speaker 1: You remember, remember that they had They had about a
Speaker 1: two year run. So Lean Wear the Rock with It
Speaker 1: drops in two thousand and six. That's when a music
Speaker 1: video come out. That's when they shine the so so depth.
Speaker 1: And they dropped the remix before the original version the song,
Speaker 1: which I thought was bizarre.
Speaker 2: Oh with bow Wow. I liked that one.
Speaker 3: Oh they think I like me so yeah, the Prince
Speaker 3: of the Old Town exactly.
Speaker 1: If you watch the line with the Rock with a
Speaker 1: music video, they referenced that music video in the line
Speaker 1: with a Rock with It, which don't make sense, but
Speaker 1: all that doesn't matter.
Speaker 3: So in the video at the beginning, it's a girl.
Speaker 3: She's doing the line with a Rock with It now,
Speaker 3: putting people know what Lean with a Rock with It is.
Speaker 3: It's a.
Speaker 1: It's a staple for people in the southeast. That made
Speaker 1: its well across the country that now it's everywhere.
Speaker 2: It was everywhere.
Speaker 3: It was big.
Speaker 1: Now you would lean rock, lift your leg up, get
Speaker 1: your knee up, bounce down with all your body. But
Speaker 1: before it was just that. You will also lean your
Speaker 1: net back all you was a guy who twists your leg.
Speaker 1: Everybody wants to see an individual, And what happened was
Speaker 1: that girl. That girl, she was trying to be herself
Speaker 1: and she was in the music video. So the story
Speaker 1: is that she was in the party and they're like, oh,
Speaker 1: that's the girl from the music video. Y'all made rooms,
Speaker 1: she about to show out, and then she snapped. She
Speaker 1: didn't live with a rob with a snapback, snapped, her
Speaker 1: neck died, and they folded up like America flood.
Speaker 3: And so from that point on, so you're saying.
Speaker 2: It was the girl from the girl in a cocktail
Speaker 2: dresser might correct, No, No, this.
Speaker 3: Like a child like so so.
Speaker 2: Little child child was at a party.
Speaker 3: For sure.
Speaker 1: So what they're saying is so great example, my mom
Speaker 1: didn't necessarily what happened was but after that, everybody's like, hey,
Speaker 1: when y'all doing the ling with a rock with it.
Speaker 3: Don't move y'all neck because that's how y'all die. So
Speaker 3: every so that was the big thing.
Speaker 1: Like schools across the Atlanta was like, hey, y'all, I
Speaker 1: know y'all like the dance and have fun, but we
Speaker 1: gotta be safe. We gotta be safe when doing these moves.
Speaker 1: And so you wasn't allowed to snap your neck. So
Speaker 1: if you was like, let's see, if you're in the middle,
Speaker 1: you're doing the linger with the rod with it, you
Speaker 1: getting after it once you moved in that back, They're like, hey, all,
Speaker 1: bets off man, we want to have a good day.
Speaker 4: I love the idea that they they know they can't
Speaker 4: stop you from doing the dance. They're like, listen, we're
Speaker 4: not This dance is too goddamn contagious for us to
Speaker 4: ask people to not do it. But let's just do
Speaker 4: it safely. If you're gonna have sex.
Speaker 3: Throw it in the air.
Speaker 2: Guy.
Speaker 3: You know what, I remember?
Speaker 2: I forgot that they were yeah, yeah, that's when the
Speaker 2: animations came.
Speaker 4: And that's when that that next snap really found itself.
Speaker 4: I would I would argue is that.
Speaker 2: When people were snapping hard, you would really snap. I
Speaker 2: used to wear a helmet.
Speaker 3: Unrelated, but I mean just at the teen club. And
Speaker 3: when I was in middle school, they used to the
Speaker 3: teen club.
Speaker 2: Shout the club bash people.
Speaker 3: Was at the teen club. And so this is a
Speaker 3: true thing. So before the next snap thing, it wasn't
Speaker 3: about the animations. So before it was like who could
Speaker 3: lean and rock the hardest? But after that exactly exactly,
Speaker 3: but post that girl supposedly dying, that's when catching like, hey,
Speaker 3: you gotta pretend like you're hearing the baseball you go,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. So it really advanced the
Speaker 3: dance further by creating that constriction. It's like when you
Speaker 3: don't cut.
Speaker 4: And as this evolution of safety created a space for
Speaker 4: people to start to add a new innovation to the
Speaker 4: ship for sure.
Speaker 1: For out yep, that's when people was wearing them big shirts.
Speaker 1: When people remember.
Speaker 2: My white tea and.
Speaker 3: A lot of reason there was remember pink tea. I
Speaker 3: remember pink tea.
Speaker 1: And you remember back in them days, if you was
Speaker 1: a dude who was trying to look like attracted to women,
Speaker 1: you wouldn't take your whole shirt off. You would just
Speaker 1: take the bottom of the shirt and put it behind
Speaker 1: your neck.
Speaker 3: You know, And that was a little ostentatious for myself.
Speaker 4: But it was well, it was a smart move because
Speaker 4: if you separate the arms from the they look bigger
Speaker 4: than when they're oh yeah, like that's a big ass
Speaker 4: arm when it ain't got no tour so attached to it.
Speaker 2: Did you ever have to try to did you ever
Speaker 2: have to try to Harlem shake? But you would just
Speaker 2: grab the bottom of your big T shirt.
Speaker 4: That's a good move. That's how That's how I was
Speaker 4: getting down. Like I when I was in high school,
Speaker 4: I was a dancer, baby, I was. I was, I
Speaker 4: know it, I do it mountain. You were a mountain
Speaker 4: dew chuck.
Speaker 5: And.
Speaker 3: I ain't. I ain't lie.
Speaker 1: When I was coming up, I was jigging for real
Speaker 1: like and then I had bonus points because I was
Speaker 1: a fat dude, so like I had Yeah, I used
Speaker 1: to do the worm. Whoa yeah yeah, people like, hey man,
Speaker 1: go do the worm?
Speaker 3: Am I doing? Yeah? I was.
Speaker 4: If a fat dude does the worm, that's that's the
Speaker 4: party right there. There ain't taking somebody, Yeah, there's we
Speaker 4: shut it down for that ship. That's crazy.
Speaker 3: Lost in one battle, only lost one battle on my time.
Speaker 3: How many battles like twelve I did. I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 3: I thought it'd be a bigger number. I was literally
Speaker 3: expecting that's a lot.
Speaker 2: It's a lot of dance battle. I'm not that's a lot.
Speaker 4: I'm not discrediting whether or not twelve is a big number.
Speaker 3: Four dance battles. I'm saying that.
Speaker 4: When you go I never lost one dance battle in
Speaker 4: my life, and it's one of twelve, it starts to
Speaker 4: make it.
Speaker 3: It feels. I don't think.
Speaker 2: I think you're playing. If it was fistfights, you would
Speaker 2: be like, that's pretty good.
Speaker 3: If you tell me that them boys from you got
Speaker 3: served only only dance twelve.
Speaker 4: Times, I'd be like, well, they're not gonna win. They're
Speaker 4: not ready.
Speaker 2: He wasn't a little saint in the world. Sometimes dance
Speaker 2: battle that's a lot.
Speaker 1: And you comparing it to to professional athletes, as a
Speaker 1: usually dancer, as I legally answer, that's a big number.
Speaker 1: Think about it. Think about I would dancing twice a year,
Speaker 1: one for one for the spring dance and one time
Speaker 1: in the summertime when we had that party. After that,
Speaker 1: I was retired the rest of the year. I got
Speaker 1: Larry home.
Speaker 2: That's six years worth of battles, years with the battle.
Speaker 4: Let me, let me, let me go on records saying
Speaker 4: I was wrong. I'm out of line here, but but
Speaker 4: go on, please bats not not twelve And that's as
Speaker 4: you're saying it. I feel shame about it. I truly
Speaker 4: I made a mistake.
Speaker 3: You gotta get after it.
Speaker 2: I never even, I've never even I've been approached to
Speaker 2: dance battle and I had to. I didn't want to.
Speaker 3: You had to wave it off. I'm good, Damn.
Speaker 2: I would rather battle battle. I would rather run at
Speaker 2: a tam of enemies with the sword, damn, as I
Speaker 2: have to dance battle.
Speaker 1: One time I had to battle some twins whoa and
Speaker 1: swear to God, the twins in my neighborhood. One of
Speaker 1: them sat on the other one shoulders like a transformer
Speaker 1: and they was like tut They was tutting together.
Speaker 2: What and you did the worm though? Nah?
Speaker 1: So that that one I won by I won by
Speaker 1: disqualification because while I was dancing, I started crumping and
Speaker 1: they started crumping, and they asked them to hit this
Speaker 1: girl in the mouth, and then they come dance.
Speaker 3: No more so than I won, damn.
Speaker 4: So that's like, uh, that's like in an in Naruto
Speaker 4: when like the enemy hurts themselves and then he he
Speaker 4: but he still finds his heroic story inside of it.
Speaker 3: Exactly.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: It's all art, bro, Everything is expression, and sometimes we
Speaker 1: express with our body and sometimes we express with our words,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 3: And at that.
Speaker 1: Time, I was crumping. I used to do the word.
Speaker 1: I used to be able to spin on my head,
Speaker 1: but only one spin.
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna make fun of that. That's still a
Speaker 4: success for me.
Speaker 3: You put a skull cap on here, like move back,
Speaker 3: I listen.
Speaker 4: I I my my child has now like started to
Speaker 4: try to like do a front flip, like just rolling,
Speaker 4: like she'll try to roll herself. And I was like
Speaker 4: trying to demonstrate it for her and like put my
Speaker 4: head on the ground and was gonna like flip my
Speaker 4: body over and then thought, no, I'm not gonna do that,
Speaker 4: like physically, I can't do that.
Speaker 3: They didn't make that. They didn't make that big thud.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was it was enough where it was like, oh,
Speaker 4: even just doing this on the ground, this is irresponsible,
Speaker 4: and I ain't.
Speaker 3: I can't funk around like that, you know.
Speaker 2: What I mean? You now, you can't do it man,
Speaker 2: sometimes we gotta leave.
Speaker 3: We gotta live young things for young people. I think
Speaker 3: that's true. I'm saying dance battles.
Speaker 2: What was your oldest dance battle? How old were you?
Speaker 3: So?
Speaker 1: I I think I was in high school. I lost
Speaker 1: it because that dude did my signature move on me.
Speaker 1: So I used to have a move called a detonator bro,
Speaker 1: where where so I would legitimately I would like be
Speaker 1: so I'll go down to their legs and I'll vibrate
Speaker 1: up like that about it and then explode their head,
Speaker 1: gonna start dancing real right, And so then it kind
Speaker 1: of went it was ham but then I started overusing
Speaker 1: so peoples.
Speaker 3: Like, man, you always doing that move bro, like.
Speaker 2: You in the last four of your twelve Dans battle.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And then on the last battle, the dude detonated me.
Speaker 4: Oh he's working already with a narrative that's been circulating
Speaker 4: around this is.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he prepared that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he knew you, was like, and he's like me
Speaker 4: and Mando, we we're gonna face off, and I'm gonna
Speaker 4: get him.
Speaker 1: For sure, because I had a lot of hate behind me.
Speaker 1: Because you know, if you win, when you win long enough,
Speaker 1: you become a villain man, and so once he detonated me,
Speaker 1: all the momentum went to his hot side, and I
Speaker 1: couldn't do nothing else man, And then I retired that day.
Speaker 3: I gotta let it go. I used to be good man.
Speaker 3: I used to do the worm.
Speaker 1: I never The only thing I really didn't do was
Speaker 1: I wasn't a big I'm a break dance guy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I used to take though for Yeah, I was
Speaker 1: just doing.
Speaker 4: I was doing a lot of sideways, usher, slides and ship.
Speaker 3: I knew, I knew it. I knew it. I knew it,
Speaker 3: I knew. I don't know why I knew it, but
Speaker 3: I knew it.
Speaker 2: I knew that. I knew.
Speaker 3: I found this out.
Speaker 2: I had a cousin similar.
Speaker 4: Situation, similar situation.
Speaker 2: Very light skin, a lot of sideways, like when the
Speaker 2: when that video came out, was like the first one
Speaker 2: I saw do it, the one where it comes across
Speaker 2: the front.
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, hear me when I say this, When that
Speaker 4: video came out, I didn't sleep that that changed.
Speaker 3: That change which on everything for me.
Speaker 4: Which one that when when usher first it might have
Speaker 4: been when he first did that first started gliding.
Speaker 2: No, it was it wasn't you make me want to remember, Oh.
Speaker 3: He did do it? You would make me want to Yeah, he.
Speaker 2: Was wearing the black and red pants.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna let y'all know something though. That boy, that
Speaker 1: boy Usher was the first musician to wear Healey's. Right,
Speaker 1: you go watch you don't have the problem.
Speaker 4: He came up and not only that, he went to
Speaker 4: a party in them ships, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: Just he was like, I'm leaving my bitch, I'm going
Speaker 4: this is my day of liberation out in the world,
Speaker 4: and I am going in Healey's.
Speaker 3: The boys and.
Speaker 2: I I got my I got my schoolly and uh huh.
Speaker 2: It was so well lit in the music videos too.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't mind. I didn't mind it being darker.
Speaker 4: But but god, damn do I wish I wish they
Speaker 4: would clear the floor so that me and my boys
Speaker 4: could do a choreograd together, you know.
Speaker 1: Hula hoopia chain one time. You know what I'm saying, Yeah,
Speaker 1: do it around the neck. Gotta get out damn.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Well, let me ask you, because we're we have to
Speaker 4: go to break that. We owe tax money, We've got
Speaker 4: issues that we've got to solve here. But before we
Speaker 4: go to break, man, how much of this is a
Speaker 4: conspiracy theory you genuinely are brought into How much of
Speaker 4: this is something you believe?
Speaker 2: All right?
Speaker 3: So I'm gonna be honest.
Speaker 1: So for a long time, I believe in it because
Speaker 1: it's something that everybody, everybody said in Atlanta. But then
Speaker 1: I got on Reddit and now a lot of people
Speaker 1: are disparaging it. And then I find that across the
Speaker 1: country it's different versions of a Lady don doing the dance.
Speaker 1: So like it's like, I think, like there's I saw
Speaker 1: a Texas version where somebody did it died South Dallas swagger.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, And so.
Speaker 2: Are you not to the possibility that many people have
Speaker 2: died dancing?
Speaker 3: That's real. That's because it's like, and.
Speaker 2: I don't I don't love admitting this. I've hurt myself
Speaker 2: at home dancing and that's that and that's but that's passive.
Speaker 2: But I'm saying that's passively. That's why I'm washing the dishes.
Speaker 2: I'm not even like in my room in front of
Speaker 2: the mirror trying to you know what. I'm just like, yeah,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. It's listening to Tony.
Speaker 4: If funk around and have like a girl you're you're
Speaker 4: deeply in love with watching you might go a little harder,
Speaker 4: with a little more inner show.
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna go softer. I'm not gonna go softer.
Speaker 3: You got you gotta show what you can do. I
Speaker 3: got what I'm saying. What what dance move?
Speaker 2: It's always for work, It's always for work, because I
Speaker 2: got I got this situation where like, waist up, it's easy,
Speaker 2: it's like it's it's it flows, it's natural, waist down
Speaker 2: when the athleticism comes in to play. I'm not if
Speaker 2: that's where it. So it's like I'll be you know,
Speaker 2: I'm doing the dishes or unloading laundry or some ship,
Speaker 2: and then I I feel that I'm slick, and then
Speaker 2: I try to do some foot ship and that's where
Speaker 2: it always goes.
Speaker 4: Well, okay, so you you at one point were bought in,
Speaker 4: but now you are you are uncertain of its validity.
Speaker 4: Is that safe to say? Or are you definitively out
Speaker 4: on the whole thing?
Speaker 3: I think for fun, I'm a stand on it that
Speaker 3: that girl die rest in peace. I love that.
Speaker 4: I love that as a as an outvert for this
Speaker 4: entire thing, that we let's go to break. Fuck it,
Speaker 4: we don't have rest in peace to that girl who died.
Speaker 3: Stand on your ship. We'll be back with more mandling more.
Speaker 2: My mama told me, no, welcome back to my mama
Speaker 2: told me. The podcast where David didn't realize he was
Speaker 2: introing after the drop, we are talking to mandal about
Speaker 2: whether or not a young woman lost her life in
Speaker 2: pursuit of the lean and the rocking with it.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So so you you're standing on your ship, you're embracing
Speaker 4: the possibility that this girl did die. When it first happened,
Speaker 4: what was the what was the climate around your community?
Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
Speaker 4: You're in high school, I presume, or you're middle you're
Speaker 4: in middle school, in middle middle school, is everybody truly
Speaker 4: terrified or they like, goofy, bitch, you should have you
Speaker 4: should have held your next stronger.
Speaker 3: N We was twelve, they were twelve. This of the
Speaker 3: kids start.
Speaker 1: We were twelve. So people thought it was hilarious. People
Speaker 1: thought it was hilarious. Ain't gonna lie, which is bad.
Speaker 1: People did, And I remember a lot of people kept
Speaker 1: snapping their heads back to see if it's gonna happen
Speaker 1: to them. But I think they was going through some
Speaker 1: personal issues. But but a lot of them cats for
Speaker 1: show was a lot of the people for show, like
Speaker 1: parents and stuff. They was like, hey, man, y'all relax,
Speaker 1: how y'all do that dance?
Speaker 3: You know it? It became like it was like when
Speaker 3: people check their candy for drugs. You know. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: like people.
Speaker 1: It was like monitoring the dances to make sure people
Speaker 1: wasn't gonna snap their necks.
Speaker 4: I got you it. It became enough that your parents
Speaker 4: got involved.
Speaker 1: It was an assembly when we was at the pep rally.
Speaker 1: We had pep rally in middle school for for our
Speaker 1: basketball team, and the sixth gradest had to sit on
Speaker 1: the flow because you know, seniority and so and so
Speaker 1: we were sitting on the flow. It's this part where
Speaker 1: like the band will play music at the end they
Speaker 1: would be like scrubs, sit down. They will repeat that
Speaker 1: for us to sit down, because sixth gradest was scrubs
Speaker 1: at the time. And I remember if you was a
Speaker 1: tough sixth grader, you would stand up because you had
Speaker 1: self esteem.
Speaker 3: And so what happened was in that moment standing I
Speaker 3: sat down.
Speaker 1: Brou I'm gonna be honest, man, I didn't want to
Speaker 1: get I ain't want to get Donkey Kong.
Speaker 2: It's systemic.
Speaker 4: I knew, and I don't mean that, aud but I
Speaker 4: knew you sat down because of the way you told
Speaker 4: the story where you're like if you were, but oh yeah,
Speaker 4: you didn't.
Speaker 3: Say they was. They were standing.
Speaker 1: Shout out to them individuals. They all they all did
Speaker 1: some stuff. But look so while they dancing, everybody started dancing,
Speaker 1: so people laying, rocking, people, people just jigging in general,
Speaker 1: people doing the pool palace slash walking out whatever air
Speaker 1: you subscribe to. And then the principal stopped the band.
Speaker 3: Said hold on, hold on, hold on, d hold on now,
Speaker 3: y'all better not be snapping them next. We don't want
Speaker 3: to send nobody to the hospital. And he was dead serious.
Speaker 3: But everybody laughed and laughed, and people laughed at the
Speaker 3: idea of this lady dying and that more of us
Speaker 3: could have died. You know, we thought that was so humorous.
Speaker 4: Oh man, oh god, the idea that an adult, literally
Speaker 4: the most senior adult in this still it is like,
Speaker 4: wait a minute, this is irresponsible what you young people
Speaker 4: might be venturing into.
Speaker 2: I love that he had the heart to cut the
Speaker 2: music I've never once in my life had something important
Speaker 2: enough to say stop them. Yeah, not one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, my principal orthopedic shoes. Man, he wasn't a
Speaker 1: fun guy at all, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: He had.
Speaker 1: He had a lot of hangtime over the belt for
Speaker 1: a shadow to who I become and then what he
Speaker 1: and what he did when he when he stopped all
Speaker 1: fun and said, y'all stop that. Y'all stopped that, and
Speaker 1: then the band started the song tho. So it was
Speaker 1: like a serious thing. It was a real serious thing, goddamn.
Speaker 3: But honestly, people kept snapping their nets back and nobody died.
Speaker 3: I ain't seen nobody else die from it.
Speaker 2: Any injuries, any injuries.
Speaker 3: I ain't gonna lie. I seen I seen somebody do
Speaker 3: like the twist with the leg. I don't know. Do
Speaker 3: y'all know who fabo? We don't disrespect us, man, don't
Speaker 3: don't y'all from I know y'all from the midway. But
Speaker 3: still watch your fucking mouth, tell your story. But you know,
Speaker 3: do you know who is.
Speaker 2: Talking?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 2: He used to stand up?
Speaker 1: He game and they drub He would have stood up,
Speaker 1: and then they would have they would have jumped in
Speaker 1: but he would have apt up. So he used to
Speaker 1: do this thing where he would lift he would lift
Speaker 1: his leg up to his side and he will wipe
Speaker 1: off his feelies with his hand, right.
Speaker 3: I remember that was a big move.
Speaker 1: Like people will do that, and I've seen one person
Speaker 1: do that and they lifted up with too much momentum
Speaker 1: and fell over and but they lived.
Speaker 4: WHOA, Okay, yeah, I thought you were about to describe
Speaker 4: a horrible knee injury, but no, this is just bad balance.
Speaker 3: That led to yeah, they slipped, and it was really bads.
Speaker 3: Everybody like, na, hey, you can't do the moon, like fa,
Speaker 3: no you ain't. And then for we were like he
Speaker 3: think he fable and then like, nah, I guess I'm
Speaker 3: not fable because because you know, because I'm pretty bad,
Speaker 3: I'm not favor You know, it's only three years. So
Speaker 3: you do one dumb thing, you socially stunned yourself for
Speaker 3: middle you know what I'm saying. So like from that
Speaker 3: point on, it was like watch out for him, don't
Speaker 3: let him dance.
Speaker 4: Write that that is objectively not fay Bo for the
Speaker 4: rest of this experience.
Speaker 1: And I love that sentiment because even if somebody could
Speaker 1: do the move. They still not fable, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. No, nobody was in that gym, but for
Speaker 1: one thing, for shortened that cat.
Speaker 3: No, no, no.
Speaker 4: If ever you thought, like a Scooby Doo episode, we're
Speaker 4: gonna amass him and it's secretly gonna be fab it
Speaker 4: ain't out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because in the song bet you Can't Do It
Speaker 1: Like Me, it's a song called bet you Can't Do
Speaker 1: It Like Me, which is a when they talk about
Speaker 1: doing the central move like Fabo. So just I did
Speaker 1: that Fabo was going around and teaching people the actual
Speaker 1: move as if like a like a like a train,
Speaker 1: you know, like if you get to a certain level
Speaker 1: in karate, the master train to come teach you. And
Speaker 1: so the idea was that he didn't have the central move.
Speaker 4: Oh, that Fabo Fabo had not been called down to
Speaker 4: give the ultimate instruction.
Speaker 3: For sure. I know this might be a convoluted.
Speaker 4: Well this is I think a wonderful transition into some
Speaker 4: of the research that I did. And according to what
Speaker 4: we were talking about, the the idea of the possibility
Speaker 4: of this girl dying according to those haters over at Snopes,
Speaker 4: and that's the only way that I see them there's
Speaker 4: not enough evidence on records showing that a person did
Speaker 4: in fact die doing the dance to prove this to
Speaker 4: be true. However, and this is a very important however,
Speaker 4: one specific to this show. One of the things that
Speaker 4: they point to as empirical evidence of, or rather the
Speaker 4: lack of empirical evidence, is they say that if a
Speaker 4: girl did in fact die, it would obviously make national
Speaker 4: news from if a girl died from this dance move.
Speaker 2: I think it's like, you know, how when when people
Speaker 2: were like, this is my theory, you know, when everybody
Speaker 2: was dying the COVID and people were like, oh, they're
Speaker 2: saying everybody's dying the COVID, but it's really they had
Speaker 2: the pre existing conditions they're dying of. I think that
Speaker 2: would happen in reverse in terms of a dance related death,
Speaker 2: because like, if my kid died snapping, I would be like, no,
Speaker 2: he fell down. In some athletic persons, I wouldn't want
Speaker 2: to report it is like what happened. Like the cops
Speaker 2: come in, they're like, what happened to death? That's crazy,
Speaker 2: that's he died, you know, So you got to be
Speaker 2: like he fell down the stairs. It's like domestic of you.
Speaker 3: He died.
Speaker 4: He died trying to stop a fire. He didn't die dancing,
Speaker 4: don't be honestly.
Speaker 2: He stood up at the assembly and.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like I like the idea that somebody lying
Speaker 1: about what they actually died from he was doing.
Speaker 3: He was praising Tor and they got to jump him
Speaker 3: because they didn't want him to worship God. He was
Speaker 3: really a saint, you know, I got I got it.
Speaker 1: I got a question. I got a question. Who wrote
Speaker 1: that article that you read?
Speaker 4: Well, it's uh, it's Snopes, I think, is a website
Speaker 4: that sort of like prides itself on on unpacking the
Speaker 4: possibility of these things being real. I don't know specifically,
Speaker 4: although no, that's not true. There's a person named David
Speaker 4: Mickelson who wrote it. And part of my issue, and
Speaker 4: maybe this is what you're getting to is, I don't
Speaker 4: believe that David Michelson has a great understanding of what
Speaker 4: does and doesn't get reported from the black black community.
Speaker 4: The black children that are kidnapped and killed every day
Speaker 4: that does not get reported and treated like national news.
Speaker 4: So the possibility that a girl dying it easily could
Speaker 4: go without being reported.
Speaker 1: Bro, he he ain't got his head to the street,
Speaker 1: he got it to the sidewalk, and with that, that
Speaker 1: cat don't know what he's talking about. He wasn't in Atlanta.
Speaker 1: Here's here's here's my opposed argument to that.
Speaker 3: Why would? Why would? What's the motive for a line
Speaker 3: about that?
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, like, what does what does
Speaker 1: the city of Atlanta get out of line about.
Speaker 3: This lady death?
Speaker 4: It's not a pointed pride, I imagine.
Speaker 1: And plus, if she was alive, she would have came
Speaker 1: out by now and saying, hey, y'all, I'm a c NA.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 3: Definitely, I'm definitely not dad.
Speaker 2: All those other kids from the internet. You find them,
Speaker 2: the little boy drinking the juice like that, he plays football? Now,
Speaker 2: Oh boy, this nigga ain't a cold sandwich. I just
Speaker 2: looking at him. I was just looking at him on
Speaker 2: Instagram two days ago. He still hang out.
Speaker 3: She would have pulled up.
Speaker 1: She she would have been divorced by now and would
Speaker 1: have taught us like, hey, yo.
Speaker 2: She teaches dental hygienas said to Ride, I understand, Yeah, No,
Speaker 2: where is she? Yeah?
Speaker 1: She she doesn't exist because she passed. And I think
Speaker 1: it's sick that it's people on trying trying to take
Speaker 1: away her legacy like that, because that's somebody who means
Speaker 1: a lot to this city and we're not going to allow,
Speaker 1: you know, some some Reddit dude to try to disgrace that.
Speaker 4: I love that you said that. Let's let's take it
Speaker 4: a step further, because I actually thought that this. I
Speaker 4: didn't know about this one of the things that you mentioned,
Speaker 4: and it's not clearing, or at least wasn't clear when
Speaker 4: I originally read the conspiracy is that she was a
Speaker 4: part of the music video. This wasn't just a random
Speaker 4: girl at a random part, but was in fact one
Speaker 4: of the people that you see featured in the music
Speaker 4: video and in the conspiracy theory, or rather the the
Speaker 4: debunking quote unquote of this conspiracy theory. They actually liken
Speaker 4: it to a similar claim from nineteen eighty four featuring
Speaker 4: our Boy David Alfonso Robero.
Speaker 3: Oh no, yes, there were.
Speaker 4: There were claims in nineteen eighty four that Alfonso Robero,
Speaker 4: who originally got his fame doing Michael Jackson impersonations in
Speaker 4: that McDonald's career exactly Mike, that that Alfonso Robero actually
Speaker 4: had died from attempting an impossible Michael Jackson move. That
Speaker 4: like he had killed himself attempting to be Michael. That
Speaker 4: was a real rumor that was spreading in the eighties.
Speaker 3: Are you telling my brother from from one on one?
Speaker 3: Uh No, that ain't that flex That's no.
Speaker 2: That's Alexander. Oh.
Speaker 3: I thought he was Michael James. No, no, no, although
Speaker 3: gift that Alexander Michael he did do he did it
Speaker 3: Michael Jackson film. I believe where he had b I
Speaker 3: don't under saying maybe a real name with David what
Speaker 3: you said the Latin.
Speaker 2: Name Alfonso Roberto.
Speaker 1: Oh, I thought y'all was saying flex flex. I would say, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: Alvon Robero. You know from The Fresh Prince. He was
Speaker 1: Carlton on The Fresh Prince.
Speaker 3: Oh, the Carlton.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but he before he became Carlton got famous on
Speaker 4: like truly almost like it's as close I think as
Speaker 4: we could call viral back then. He became like a
Speaker 4: viral sensation for impersonating Michael Jackson's dance moves in a
Speaker 4: McDonald's commercial.
Speaker 3: That's hard, that's hard, man.
Speaker 2: I think he was hacking the eighties. That's what everybody
Speaker 2: was doing.
Speaker 3: I mean, shout out of everybody hood impersonated Michael Jackson
Speaker 3: man good career, Jason Weaver shot the Jason Weaver shout out,
Speaker 3: Oh Alexander. They put here to put the way paint
Speaker 3: on him.
Speaker 4: They made him look wild, oh man, that he made
Speaker 4: a wild choice participating in that film.
Speaker 2: He flex made a lot of wild choices. Do you
Speaker 2: remember Whole Boys in Outer Space?
Speaker 3: Of course? I remember Homeboys and Outers? I got one
Speaker 3: flax Sandate's that and snakes on a plane. Uh huh yeah.
Speaker 3: Flex Sander.
Speaker 1: He was a rapper who his and his and his
Speaker 1: security guard was Keen.
Speaker 3: And Thompson had a chain on the entire movie five
Speaker 3: foot eight inch Keenan Thompson and he landed a plane.
Speaker 3: He landed a plane that they was like, yo, who
Speaker 3: could fly the plane? And Ken and Tims like I'll
Speaker 3: fly it. And he goes to the fright. He was like,
Speaker 3: I ain't never land no plane. I was like, why
Speaker 3: do you do that? Kids? He figured it out. Yeah.
Speaker 2: It was like the third time we've talked about flex Alexander.
Speaker 3: On him and I pray to God it we do
Speaker 3: it every episode.
Speaker 4: I think, don't they say in Seinfeld, there's secretly like
Speaker 4: a Superman reference in every like scene.
Speaker 2: That's what we're Flex Alexander.
Speaker 4: And come on, baby, there there's gonna be a Flex
Speaker 4: Alexander in every little bit of this.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna get I'm gonna get a I'm gonna get
Speaker 2: a Homeboys and Outer Space T shirt.
Speaker 4: I please, let's let's wear matching T shirts for the
Speaker 4: first live.
Speaker 3: Oh man, that's alright, that is amazing. I do that.
Speaker 2: I'm with it.
Speaker 1: One thing about that boy Flex over his twenty year career,
Speaker 1: Rather he was Kyla Pratt Dad.
Speaker 3: Rather he was dribbling the basketball. That boy kept a
Speaker 3: shape of Denny.
Speaker 2: I was just gonna say he had a Crystal one
Speaker 2: on them. Yeah, he had a j Road before Jalen Room.
Speaker 3: Yeah right, he kept a Chris one on he was.
Speaker 4: He was overshadowed by Steve Harvey's wig in a way
Speaker 4: that he'll never get the same credit that he deserves
Speaker 4: because we spent years, right, we spent years praising Steve
Speaker 4: Harvey for this lie. Meanwhile, Flex Alexander was sitting there
Speaker 4: beautiful the whole time, and we ain't we ain't say nothing.
Speaker 2: You know, who else had amazing hair. Who never gets
Speaker 2: his due? Who's that fucking Martin? Hmmm, oh, okay, that's
Speaker 2: Martin's hair was always beautiful, clean, faith so well and
Speaker 2: it was natural and I feel like nobody ever brings
Speaker 2: it up. Also, I'm pretty sure the first person to
Speaker 2: wear a Pelly Pelly on television.
Speaker 3: Oh that not that may be very true. In season
Speaker 3: two we had the Pelly Pelly with the belt Fox.
Speaker 4: Fox was making a bold choice with Martin when they
Speaker 4: made it, so we were gonna see some fashion that that.
Speaker 3: You know, the networks weren't.
Speaker 1: Ready for the first Pelly Pelly and the greatest shape
Speaker 1: of that's good.
Speaker 3: That man had a great career.
Speaker 2: No, he did it. We can't ever, we can never
Speaker 2: take away.
Speaker 3: And he told people to wash their ass. It's he
Speaker 3: did it. Super important. People are half to do that.
Speaker 1: People have to if you don't get rung the whole life,
Speaker 1: get out of way. It's like going to bed lay
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, not.
Speaker 2: Cleaning up your room.
Speaker 3: Make sure the inside is clean and then the outside.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the same thing.
Speaker 3: I couldn't agree more.
Speaker 4: I think I think this is this is huge for us.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 4: This is important because one of the things that along
Speaker 4: with liking it to to Alfonso Roberto and a number
Speaker 4: of sort of like weird conspiratorial deaths that were said
Speaker 4: to happen with like semi famous people in the media.
Speaker 3: Whatever.
Speaker 4: One of the things that that then drove me to
Speaker 4: ask is is there any evidence of people dying from dancing?
Speaker 3: Right? Like? Do we have any actual evidence? And I
Speaker 3: got one?
Speaker 4: Oh, let's start with yours, because I actually this is exciting.
Speaker 1: So so all right, y'all, remember all right, I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: I get a little along with it. Bro, I'm a
Speaker 1: little socially in that, y'all. Remember you're nailing it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you're doing.
Speaker 1: Thank y'all, man, I really, I really thank y'all for
Speaker 1: letting me. This is the biggest thing that ever happens.
Speaker 1: So so look y'all remember in like maybe it's like
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety nine. Congratulations, it's Saturday, so your mama to
Speaker 1: let you stay past step past nine thirty.
Speaker 3: It's a dude who come on the TV.
Speaker 1: Now he got a blindfold, somebody it's ABC, somebody shoot
Speaker 1: a gun and if he catched the bullet in his mouth, y'all,
Speaker 1: remember that dude. I it used to be on a
Speaker 1: Magic Show. He used to catch a bullet in the mouth.
Speaker 3: He spit in the place. Oh are you talking.
Speaker 2: About street magic? Street magic?
Speaker 1: Yeah, but he did it on the stage now on
Speaker 1: that same show. Right on the same show, they would
Speaker 1: show previews to a news segment where these people was
Speaker 1: dancing at arend reception and then you can watch you
Speaker 1: can find this on YouTube. They danced that a reception
Speaker 1: and the flow gave out at a wedding and a
Speaker 1: bunch of them casts down.
Speaker 3: Whoa, I think, I.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, but he didn't die. A bunch of them.
Speaker 1: It was like a whole wedding party. A lot of
Speaker 1: them die. They was doing the east Side stump.
Speaker 3: I made up the last part.
Speaker 4: I don't remember the magic show you're talking about, but
Speaker 4: I one hundred percent remember watching twenty twenty with my mom,
Speaker 4: which was very much a thing we were doing in
Speaker 4: nineteen ninety nine.
Speaker 2: On Saturday night.
Speaker 4: Oh hell yeah, Where else was I going? This lady
Speaker 4: got twenty twenty on I'm in the house.
Speaker 3: It's a good time. It's a good time.
Speaker 4: But I remember watching an episode about exactly what you're describing.
Speaker 4: These people falling through the floor.
Speaker 1: They was jigg I wonder what record it was? You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like, imagine what record made y'all
Speaker 1: stump the flow up.
Speaker 3: Oh, I hope it was the Millennium.
Speaker 2: I hope it was.
Speaker 3: It was fucking I hope it was Storm by Kurk Franklin.
Speaker 3: That's all. Dang they get they got to go see
Speaker 3: him that day.
Speaker 2: That was a song. Right.
Speaker 4: If you're praising Jesus and then you get to meet
Speaker 4: him immediately after, that's pretty tight.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's all right, man.
Speaker 1: If they was, if they was all Kirk Franklin church outfits,
Speaker 1: y'all remember that when Kirk Franklin was like, Yo.
Speaker 3: We got we gotta figure out a way to get
Speaker 3: the youth in the church. We're gonna wear Jeanie. Yep.
Speaker 3: You know that was like a big thing in like
Speaker 3: ninety eight.
Speaker 2: He had a bubble coat too.
Speaker 4: That was before he got buff and and uh and
Speaker 4: also made up a new hairline for himself. He was
Speaker 4: more at peace back then into that though.
Speaker 2: I meant making up a new airline. I was on
Speaker 2: I'll tell you, I'll tell you the truth. I'll tell
Speaker 2: you the truth. I was on television. Once they hit
Speaker 2: me with the Beijing I felt incredible. Y.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest with you. You kids janed up one
Speaker 1: day that first day. It's a good time. Now, once
Speaker 1: you take the shower, once you take that shower, you
Speaker 1: see the mistakes he makes.
Speaker 2: Problem, that's true.
Speaker 3: The shower does reveal all Beijing area.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that's my issue with it is is I
Speaker 4: I love the experience and for a TV appearance that
Speaker 4: makes perfect sense. But truly the next day makes you
Speaker 4: feel like the ugliest monster you ever because that's a
Speaker 4: fresh haircut and it ain't I.
Speaker 3: Kind of the house. It's white out for barbers.
Speaker 2: They got one. They got one at my barbershop. Nobody
Speaker 2: ever uses it. This guy, he got it, and I've
Speaker 2: never seen any but I always I want to I
Speaker 2: want to look good. I want the whole I want
Speaker 2: the whole situation.
Speaker 1: Hit up that once you once you start, once you
Speaker 1: start putting Beijing on that skull, you put on that
Speaker 1: skull or you put on that jaw line, that's when
Speaker 1: you never come in.
Speaker 3: Back, start singing R and B. Yeah, I think Carlos
Speaker 3: I wasn't.
Speaker 2: Even face those shoe Pauls. She looked like one of
Speaker 2: the brothers. Bro.
Speaker 1: I remember one time, I was at a smoothie place
Speaker 1: you do had Beijing, and his hairline started leaking because
Speaker 1: he was sweat up. And then and then the Beijing
Speaker 1: dripped into the smooth and he gave it to a
Speaker 1: customer whoa yep, yeah, fuck.
Speaker 2: Damn, I didn't. It's crazy because you said, I didn't
Speaker 2: know that you could work at a smoothie restaurant and
Speaker 2: have the money for Beijing. How much does it cost?
Speaker 4: I don't know, but but every literally everywhere I've ever been,
Speaker 4: they're giving that out for free at barbershops.
Speaker 3: Pay for it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I said, they got the gun at my barbershop.
Speaker 2: I've never seen anybody.
Speaker 4: Oh you're talking about the gun situation. Most of the time.
Speaker 4: It's a little air brush squeegee type joint that I've seen.
Speaker 2: That's how it is in Hollywood. When I got Beijing,
Speaker 2: that's how it was. Yeah.
Speaker 4: I think with the gun, they'll charge you that. That's
Speaker 4: not that giving away. That's too much Beijing that one time?
Speaker 2: Just break?
Speaker 3: Can they giving them away by the gap?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: You know you can't. I jump like a wild punch.
Speaker 2: That's like that's like mounting your own TV. You could
Speaker 2: do it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, now, don't do that. Call it, call it, call
Speaker 3: it a different man to come mount your TV for you.
Speaker 3: Don't don't do that.
Speaker 1: They put the business card on your head to make
Speaker 1: sure they get the lines right.
Speaker 4: So, so you brought up this example of these people
Speaker 4: dancing through the floor. I dare to ask you all,
Speaker 4: and this is exciting. Have either of you heard of
Speaker 4: the dancing Plague of fifteen eighteen?
Speaker 2: You know that I have?
Speaker 3: You have?
Speaker 2: I have? I bring it up all the time.
Speaker 4: Just the other day, I was saying, remember that dancing text.
Speaker 2: I was like, you, guys, that's just wow.
Speaker 4: Well, well, for the those that don't know, and Bory,
Speaker 4: I know you're already versed in all.
Speaker 2: Of this shit.
Speaker 4: But for those that don't know, the dancing Plague of
Speaker 4: fifteen eighteen apparently involved more than one hundred people dancing
Speaker 4: themselves uncontrollably to their own deaths.
Speaker 3: That's crazy. Why they do that?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: So that's I love that you're asking that. And the
Speaker 4: truth is, no one still to this day, fully knows
Speaker 4: what the fuck happened. But apparently I'll break the whole
Speaker 4: story down for y'all. Apparently there was this lady fro
Speaker 4: Frau tro fe who leaves her house. One day, she
Speaker 4: goes to the city square and then she just starts dancing.
Speaker 4: She's in Straussburg, what is now modern day France. Right,
Speaker 4: she goes to the middle of Strausburg. She just starts dancing.
Speaker 4: She dances so long and so hard that eventually she
Speaker 4: passes out from heat stroke an exhaustion. But then everyone
Speaker 4: assumes like, all right, fraw got that shit out her system,
Speaker 4: She's gonna go do whatever the fuck frows be one elsewhere.
Speaker 4: But the next day she shows back up, does the
Speaker 4: exact same thing again the next day, to the point
Speaker 4: that peep other people start joining in and they start
Speaker 4: dancing alongside her, almost on some cult this ship, until
Speaker 4: four hundred people are gathered at a time dancing with
Speaker 4: this bitch.
Speaker 3: Frown.
Speaker 1: I think I know what happened, Okay, tell me so
Speaker 1: back then, this is when folks just started dance.
Speaker 3: Folks. So, I think it's two ways you can look
Speaker 3: at this.
Speaker 1: Either A they hold on what this girl doing, and
Speaker 1: then somebody else started like, no, it's hard, man, we
Speaker 1: got to keep up with this and that joy that
Speaker 1: endorphins outweigh food, water, shelter, and the willingness to live right.
Speaker 3: Or oh he's going for more, or if they.
Speaker 1: Had limited range, they had limited dance moves. So I
Speaker 1: think back in them times it was about who could
Speaker 1: do the better dance move, but who could dance alone?
Speaker 1: You get what I'm saying, Like the marathon came before
Speaker 1: the sprint.
Speaker 2: It was quantity not quality.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, this is well.
Speaker 4: Let me say I love these I love these suggestions
Speaker 4: of what happened. In fact, the suggestion that that dancing
Speaker 4: was created just shy of fifteen eighteen is is maybe
Speaker 4: my favorite piece of information that I've ever heard.
Speaker 1: Anybody before that. Before that, they was playing the music
Speaker 1: standing still. Man, I have no proof. I have no proof.
Speaker 3: People started jinging and then people start dying in a two.
Speaker 4: So what's crazy is that that even what you're suggesting
Speaker 4: is not that much more absurd than what they landed
Speaker 4: on all the way back then. A lot of people, naturally,
Speaker 4: you guys are smart enough to know they blamed the devil.
Speaker 4: That was the first thing that came to mind was
Speaker 4: them being like, well, is the devil's doing the frau
Speaker 4: obviously as a sinner, and so are these other people,
Speaker 4: and the devil is making them do that, And in fact,
Speaker 4: they would often refer to this lure of Saint Vitus Vetus.
Speaker 4: I don't know how to pronounce stuff, a Sicilian saint
Speaker 4: Martyred in three oh three, a d who was said
Speaker 4: to curse centers with uncontrollable dancing mania if angered.
Speaker 2: That's what his power is.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he like, I guess he died and he was like,
Speaker 4: if I get mad, you have to date dance crazy.
Speaker 1: He like the first hypno hip. What's it called? Yeah,
Speaker 1: he the first one of those. Not a magician, bro,
Speaker 1: just like a what do y'all dude?
Speaker 4: So So the other thing that they point to as
Speaker 4: a potential explanation, this is not what people were saying
Speaker 4: back then. This is what what people have now sort
Speaker 4: of at least suggested, might be the conclusion that some
Speaker 4: also believe it was a result of effects of psychotropic
Speaker 4: mold known as ear God that basically grows on damp
Speaker 4: stalks of rye and then could produce a chemical similar
Speaker 4: to LSD.
Speaker 3: That's probably the real answer.
Speaker 2: How many days was she eating that mold?
Speaker 4: I don't think she was eating it. I don't think
Speaker 4: she was like having a big.
Speaker 2: Old I'm taking LSD it doesn't last for days.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well that's they're saying that, like, or at least
Speaker 4: the suggestion feels like it's saying like the rye, it
Speaker 4: had been an inhalent all over the city type shit.
Speaker 6: Oh and then they collectively were Yeah, everybody's got high
Speaker 6: off this LSD in their homes and across the city,
Speaker 6: and now they're dancing in Times Square.
Speaker 3: BORI doesn't that I'm wrong with that one?
Speaker 4: Tell me why I want to hear both reasons?
Speaker 2: Why I every time? Because I read I was reading
Speaker 2: something about there was some that shit that happened in
Speaker 2: like Switzerland too, where they was like the town was
Speaker 2: collectively on LSD. Have you ever been on like psychotropic
Speaker 2: drugs around other people? Your experiences are not at all unified. Mmmm,
Speaker 2: it's not like it's not like that. It's like everybody's
Speaker 2: kind of going through their own shit. So to get
Speaker 2: four hundred people who are tripping to be involved in
Speaker 2: this like group hallucination, it's like I called Shenanigan.
Speaker 4: Well, here's what I'll say is that you are presuming
Speaker 4: that the people who are not dancing are not high
Speaker 4: as well. And there could be an argument that like
Speaker 4: everybody was high, but everybody was having different experiences. And
Speaker 4: those were just four hundred people who had a line
Speaker 4: in terms of like, yo, we're dance high, motherfuckers, versus
Speaker 4: these other people who are like sit at home with
Speaker 4: their arms folded and think about anything else.
Speaker 2: Weird happened in the down that day.
Speaker 4: Oh, there's not a lot of evidence of that. I
Speaker 4: think they were real focused on the dancing.
Speaker 2: See then No, if it was like four hundred people
Speaker 2: were dancing, two hundred people decided it's fun to steal
Speaker 2: from seven to eleven, six hundred people like did mouth stuff,
Speaker 2: like were blowing each other, then I would be like, oh,
Speaker 2: that makes sense, Like everybody's kind of acting out of character.
Speaker 3: I got you.
Speaker 4: But you know what, nobody invented mouth stuff. Therefore it's
Speaker 4: it's unlikely that this was the thing that was happening.
Speaker 2: I don't think that. I think mouth stuff goes back
Speaker 2: as far as people go back.
Speaker 3: You think mouth stuff goes further than dancing.
Speaker 2: I don't think. I think people have been putting it
Speaker 2: in their mouths since they've been putting food in there. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I think we have always put genitals in mouths always.
Speaker 4: Hell Yeah, Mandel you are you're you're on the pro
Speaker 4: At this point they David took the con where explain
Speaker 4: to me why you believe this?
Speaker 1: That just sounded like geeker activity, And so I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go with that. That sounds like some of the geeked up.
Speaker 1: Maybe the bread, maybe the RYE mixed in with the
Speaker 1: LSD make you want to jig a little bit. You know,
Speaker 1: I've seen plenty of people jig on a lot of things,
Speaker 1: and maybe and maybe today.
Speaker 3: Was LSD, LSD and rye. Baby.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you put that bread with the LSD, you on
Speaker 1: that dance floor. You know, it's just what it is.
Speaker 4: So one of the the most interesting explanations that I
Speaker 4: found that I think actually is going to be a
Speaker 4: great connector back to this original conversation is the reference
Speaker 4: to something called collective psychosis, which argues that cultural influence, religion,
Speaker 4: supernatural beliefs, gossip right, might lead people to enter a
Speaker 4: disassociative mental state in which their normal consciousness is disabled,
Speaker 4: causing them to carry out irrational physical acts.
Speaker 2: But this was in France, right, why didn't they all
Speaker 2: start kissing?
Speaker 4: Well, that that's rational, that that's literally their thing. So
Speaker 4: I think what they're saying is the irrational would not
Speaker 4: be to kiss, but to dance wildly until you're that Literally.
Speaker 4: They described some of these people as like being bloody
Speaker 4: from from having danced all day for two months.
Speaker 2: To wait, you didn't say too month.
Speaker 4: Oh I'm sorry, Yes, this lasted for two months.
Speaker 3: I've been getting nigh this old time. I forgot. So
Speaker 3: you said they for two months? That's right? Well that yeah,
Speaker 3: that's that's a way of thinking about it. Damn that's
Speaker 3: crazy that that is.
Speaker 4: And I guess where it connects me back where I
Speaker 4: start to think about the original conspiracy theory, right is
Speaker 4: I think about this girl and how like Snopes and
Speaker 4: these other people that claim it's not real would say, well,
Speaker 4: it's unlikely that somebody would want to dance that hard
Speaker 4: or give that much energy to it and that would
Speaker 4: eventually snap their neck whatever, whatever, whatever. But I think
Speaker 4: we're really talking about like this this cultural psychosis that
Speaker 4: we could all find ourselves in. It's just us trying
Speaker 4: to one up each other and get further into sort
Speaker 4: of like a place of value with our dance moves,
Speaker 4: with our bodies, and that could force a person exactly, Yeah,
Speaker 4: a person would suddenly kill themselves on on some just
Speaker 4: desperately wanting to be a part of this cultural imprint.
Speaker 2: I feel like I've definitely been in a party and
Speaker 2: the time is right and the lights are hitting, and
Speaker 2: I'm like, I would kill to be the best dancer. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. I felt that. I felt
Speaker 2: that before.
Speaker 3: I feel you.
Speaker 1: My only issue though, is that it was too much
Speaker 1: that stuff. You get what I'm saying at some point. Well,
Speaker 1: what I'm surprised is that they didn't die without food
Speaker 1: and water before too much.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I.
Speaker 4: Think that what they're saying is that that's over the
Speaker 4: course of two months, one hundred people died. So I
Speaker 4: don't think that literally everybody that started with FRAU made
Speaker 4: it all the way through two months. In fact, I
Speaker 4: read something that said that it was something like fifteen
Speaker 4: people a day dropping dead from whatever this was. So
Speaker 4: I think they started off dancing and then some people
Speaker 4: would drop out, some people get tired and not come back.
Speaker 4: But over the course of two months, this dancing never stopped.
Speaker 1: Well, people got to chill out with that.
Speaker 4: That's what I got, and honestly, I think that's the
Speaker 4: best way for us to put us stamp on this.
Speaker 3: I truly don't know.
Speaker 4: A better way for us to end this conversation with
Speaker 4: just hey, people got to chill out out with that.
Speaker 3: Look, if you hate cops just because the next time
Speaker 3: you get in trouble, call on crackhead, call him up. Manna,
Speaker 3: they're gonna dance today die.
Speaker 4: They'll dance to die because they're on psychotropic drugs. Huh, Mandel,
Speaker 4: could you tell the people where they can find you
Speaker 4: and what cool shit you have going on?
Speaker 1: Man, don't find me fire youre lord to save you. Man,
Speaker 1: Thank y'all for having me.
Speaker 3: Bro. Oh, that's not what you're I just need though.
Speaker 3: I love that.
Speaker 4: That's what you were about to go into is an
Speaker 4: acceptance speech.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I'm about to say thank you. Shout out
Speaker 1: to Hot Comics Studios. So let me record here.
Speaker 3: Oh way to find me? Oh I gotta I got
Speaker 3: an Instagram? Yeah, I got an Instagram? Dumb Mandel man? Yeah,
Speaker 3: follow that follow or don't know either one?
Speaker 4: Follow Mandel I was. I was telling him before the podcast.
Speaker 4: One of my favorite clips of comedy I've seen in
Speaker 4: years is something he posted. A very funny joke. He
Speaker 4: told so follow Mandel. He's hilarious, Bory. You want to
Speaker 4: tell the people where they can find you what you
Speaker 4: got going on?
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, December third, I'm gonna be at the Crocodile
Speaker 2: in Seattle, and December fourth, I'm gonna be headlining Helium
Speaker 2: in Portland, and then you know, oh, November twenty fourth,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be headlining the Comedy Works in Denver. My
Speaker 2: little brother's gonna be there. He's pretty fun.
Speaker 4: Hell yeah does he wait he does comedy now, No.
Speaker 3: He'll just be hanging out. It's just jellous. Fuck. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Well, go Ze, Bory goes Lee Boy's little brother. If
Speaker 4: you're in Denver, and as always, you can follow me
Speaker 4: at Langston Kerman on all platforms. And if you want
Speaker 4: to send us your drops, your conspiracy theories, your bullshit,
Speaker 4: send it to my mama pod at gmail dot com.
Speaker 4: We would love to hear from you. Okay, that's it,
Speaker 4: by bitch.
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