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Speaker 2: Mets fans, Welcome to the first episode of the off season.

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Speaker 1: I hate that, don't love that one bit.

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Speaker 2: The off season has officially started. The Mets, of course,

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Speaker 2: lost to the Dodgers in the NLC. Yes, we got

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Speaker 2: a lot of cleanup to do on today's episode, just

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Speaker 2: how we're feeling a couple of days later. Talk about

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Speaker 2: David Stearns addressing the media after the season's officially over.

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Speaker 2: He has a lot to say, Jeff Passon being a

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Speaker 2: nice guy to us, John Mayer giving major props to

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Speaker 2: the New York Mets, which was crazy bizarre. Talk a

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Speaker 2: little bit about the World Series two because the ESPN

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Speaker 2: and Fox have been so weird about it. And then

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Speaker 2: we're finishing off with a mailbag in voicemail episode that's

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Speaker 2: gonna be the majority of it. This cleanup stuff is

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Speaker 2: gonna be five to ten minutes here at the beginning,

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Speaker 2: and then we're gonna answer your guys questions from Twitter

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Speaker 2: and INCA. If you guys want to get involved in

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Speaker 2: the next mail bag and voicemail and everything that goes on,

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Speaker 2: and subscribe. We got some funny reviews to read out

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Speaker 2: as well at the end of the podcast. But James,

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Speaker 2: it's been a couple of days since the knife was

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Speaker 2: stabbed in our heart and twisted.

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Speaker 1: How are you feeling?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, hand up. I was really mad on Sunday night,

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Speaker 3: just watching I was pissed just watching the season end

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Speaker 3: and kind of seeing this like bizarre outpouring of either

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Speaker 3: extreme negativity or extreme positivity. Because if you guys listen

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Speaker 3: to podcasts, you know I love to hang out in

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Speaker 3: the middle. It's my favorite place to be. There's no

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Speaker 3: such things an absolute I learned that met through my

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Speaker 3: history classes in college. But I'm still upset. I'm obviously hopeful.

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Speaker 3: Like on Monday, I spent a nice day went upstate.

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Speaker 3: I just climbed a mountain and laid down the rock

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Speaker 3: That was what I needed to do to clear clear

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Speaker 3: my head, and it was nice. It worked I feel

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Speaker 3: better now again, like just hopeful, okay, but sad at Sterns.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna talk about all everything Stern said to the

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Speaker 3: media on Wednesday afternoon. But like something he said that

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Speaker 3: was great was that he literally opened this his first line,

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Speaker 3: it's still stayings. It should sting. That means we made

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Speaker 3: it far enough for it to really hurt. That's exactly.

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Speaker 3: I think that kind of encapsulates it really well. How

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Speaker 3: how I'm feeling now, and how I'm going to feel

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Speaker 3: another week from now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm definitely feeling better, but it still sucks. I know.

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Speaker 2: We went on with our guy Mike Janella. He was

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Speaker 2: doing a little Instagram live before we actually recorded this podcast,

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Speaker 2: and he asked a similar question, like it was a

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Speaker 2: I don't get to watch his team anymore. There's no

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Speaker 2: That's absolute hell. It's just there's there's a huge hole

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Speaker 1: I've been playing Red Dead Redemption two. I've been playing

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Speaker 1: a lot. I've been playing a lot of Red Dead

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Speaker 1: Redemption too. It's an absolute blast.

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Speaker 2: You went, you went to the real mountains. I'm playing

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Speaker 2: I've been making more videos, just trying to keep busy

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Speaker 2: I was like, man, I can't believe the Mets season's over.

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Speaker 3: There was a there was a good comment we love

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Speaker 3: it was really good. But someone was like, if we

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Speaker 2: Whatever, don't matter him. How whoever it was they were,

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Speaker 2: going into the off season because of how this season went,

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Speaker 2: Sterns addressing the media giving us some great great voice

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Speaker 2: Our success this year doesn't mean anything for us to

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Speaker 2: that's almost verbatim what we said after the Dodgers ripped

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Speaker 3: Or it's just me idolizing him in general. So that's

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Speaker 3: he compared this Mets run to the nineteen eighty four

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Speaker 3: And asking about Peter Alonzo, like did the last three

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Speaker 3: He was like, about to answer a lot of questions

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Speaker 3: Him, And they're also definitely saving GM. Like we talked

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Speaker 3: So you you reserve GM if you want to hire

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Speaker 3: But then he said them. Someone asked him about, like

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Speaker 3: We're gonna lose a lot of innings. He was like,

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Speaker 1: You guys forget Sean Manaiah, Luis Severarno.

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Speaker 2: We're not a part of this team when the year started,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And the big thing is that he was just

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Speaker 2: There's literally no reason to be committal right now. Also,

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Speaker 2: you're not going to hear him talk about signing Juan

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Speaker 2: The season is still technically going on.

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Speaker 2: Lonzo, I don't think is officially a free agent until

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Speaker 2: the last out of the World Series is made, So

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Speaker 2: you can't really make a lot of these comments even

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Speaker 1: But I do love how close to the chest he's

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Speaker 2: And that's something that we talked about a lot this

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's also just there was another quote that

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Speaker 2: And again, there's not really many guys around right now

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Speaker 3: Go back to their bosses, show all this engagement like, yeah,

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Speaker 3: You didn't see this, You didn't see this club, you

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Speaker 4: Oh no, not unbelievable, Oh no, this land is our land. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: We'll see you next year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm getting a lot from them. I'm getting a

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Speaker 1: Them losers from a loser fucking city. So I went.

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Speaker 1: I went a little overboard there, no doubt.

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Speaker 2: There was someone who DM me like literally last night.

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Speaker 2: I want to be like, what the news Just get

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Speaker 2: late there, buddy. But yeah, the Philly fans talking trash

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Speaker 3: Neil Greenberg who a couple years ago San Francisco Lindor

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Speaker 3: saying it was a bad contract. He's not a good

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Speaker 2: No, And then of course we have to bring up

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Speaker 3: It's the best.

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Speaker 1: I mean, listen, tip the cap. He does what he does.

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Speaker 2: He's on WFA N and he very much has a

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Speaker 1: That's that's the part that's annoying.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and then he was on he's on the Foul

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Speaker 3: make it, That doesn't make any sense. He was giving

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Speaker 3: Now you're like, we don't know.

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Speaker 2: That's only they had Michael King and those relievers, you

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Padres. All the Padres needed was a little more

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Speaker 3: pitching they would have gotten there. How many run? How

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Speaker 3: something like something like that. Yeah, that was good for them,

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Speaker 3: That was good. You definitely didn't need another bat.

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Speaker 2: You need to make sure you had Randy Vasquez and

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Speaker 1: What was Johnny Brido? That's who you liked. And I

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Speaker 3: I thought it'd be a lot better. But all right,

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Speaker 2: Mailbag, this is a man I really wish we didn't

439
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Speaker 2: have to do this, but you know what we're going

440
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Speaker 2: to you guys were amazing all season long. It's the

441
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Speaker 2: least that we could do is answer your guys questions.

442
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Speaker 2: Now that we can get this to the first offseason,

443
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Speaker 2: we will are unfiltered. We can talk to you about

444
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Speaker 2: anything we physically want to, which is so much fun,

445
00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:08,880
Speaker 2: especially for a team that has the most money in baseball,

446
00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:11,919
Speaker 2: because we have the opportunity to sign anyone. Like David

447
00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:15,120
Speaker 2: Stern said, the entire player universe is accessible to us.

448
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Speaker 2: We've got some voicemails, We've got some tweets. I feel

449
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Speaker 2: like I'd be remiss if I didn't start off with

450
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Speaker 2: Frankie Peppers though, of course with the first question saying,

451
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Speaker 2: what is your one big hunch for the Mets next season?

452
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Speaker 2: It can be anything, who we sign, what we win,

453
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Speaker 2: who will become a new certified rat?

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Speaker 1: You know the deal.

455
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Speaker 2: Never mind, oh we said, he said, he sends us

456
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Speaker 2: on Instagram. I read it unfortunately for you, Frankie. But

457
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Speaker 2: big hunch, James for the Mets season in twenty twenty four.

458
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Speaker 2: What do you got or now let me do that again.

459
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Speaker 2: Big hunch for the Mets season twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 1: What do you got? Twenty twenty four is over?

461
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Speaker 3: Can I say something? I might be psycho?

462
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Speaker 1: Yeah, say it. It better be positive.

463
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Speaker 3: I don't know if it's positive or not. I think

464
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Speaker 3: I think it's a chance Edwin Diaz now on this

465
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Speaker 3: team next year. Ooh, that's a hot take. That was

466
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Speaker 3: so that was my take earlier in the year.

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Speaker 2: Remember me being like, David Sterns is gonna get rid

468
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Speaker 2: of Edwin Diaz and it has really nothing to do

469
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Speaker 2: with Edwin at all. Made David Sterns historically never paid closers.

470
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Speaker 2: That's not that's not has nothing to do with the

471
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Speaker 2: brewers as well. It's just like a, hey, we can

472
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Speaker 2: make like ten more of these guys out of thin

473
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Speaker 2: air like they did in Milwaukee. And granted, we know

474
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Speaker 2: the Mets bullpen was a huge mess this year, so

475
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Speaker 2: it might be a little bit different because we don't

476
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Speaker 2: have that next man up right now like they did Milwaukee.

477
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Speaker 2: But paying your closer what twenty million dollars a year,

478
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Speaker 2: you kind of see the handcuff it can have almost

479
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Speaker 2: on the rest of this team in bullpen.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because a closer, even thoughs goes Edwin is and

481
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Speaker 3: even as bad as he was sometimes this year. He's

482
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Speaker 3: still parentially a top five closer in game. And I

483
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Speaker 3: have no qualm second, if not a top three, if

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Speaker 3: not a top two, So maybe maybe three. I'll set

485
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Speaker 3: a lat of three. But I just think that we

486
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Speaker 3: saw this this through this playoff run. The thing that

487
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Speaker 3: hampered them as bullpen was mostly depth. And when you

488
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Speaker 3: pay one of your leaves twenty million dollars, he's just

489
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Speaker 3: he's never gonna be perfect. There's not how baseball works,

490
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Speaker 3: not how the world works. You're gonna not You're gonna

491
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Speaker 3: lose the opportunity to have other guys to supplement them.

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Speaker 3: And I think there's a I don't think it's gonna

493
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Speaker 3: happen each Frankie asked for a hunch that was more

494
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Speaker 3: of a hot take, that was more of like, something

495
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Speaker 3: is deep in my guts, something telling me something. I

496
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Speaker 3: think there just might wind up being a surprising trade.

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Speaker 2: So I think there's gonna be a surprising trade. I

498
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Speaker 2: think we're gonna get someone big though. I think the

499
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Speaker 2: Mets are getting Garrett Crochet. I really do. I've been

500
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Speaker 2: thinking about the last couple of days. I've been looking

501
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Speaker 2: at what the White Sox farm system needs which is

502
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Speaker 2: just anything they need baseball players. Mets kind of have

503
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Speaker 2: a surplus right now with major league ish ready prospects

504
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Speaker 2: that I think the White Sox could be interested in.

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Speaker 2: Garrett Crochet I think will be traded this offseason. I

506
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Speaker 2: think my big hunch is gonna be like Garret Crochet

507
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Speaker 2: is a New York Met.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I'll ask you this because now we've gotten to

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Speaker 3: one of our hundred questions that we've been asked since

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Speaker 3: we're the eighteen minutes of the podcast.

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Speaker 1: It's fine, well they were three minutes into the mailbag.

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Speaker 3: There you go. If you had to trade one of

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Speaker 3: the major league ready prospects or would you trade.

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Speaker 1: Ooh, that's a good one. I think I would be trading.

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Speaker 1: Are we talking about Acuni as one of them too?

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Speaker 3: Any of them? Anyone triple and anyone's played the game

517
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Speaker 3: in Triple A.

518
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Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be Luis on Hell right now.

519
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Speaker 2: And the reason being is that with Ronnie Maurisio here,

520
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Speaker 2: I think he kind of becomes, oh, wait, Jet Williams

521
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Speaker 2: is a triple A. He this, it's Jet Williams. It's

522
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Speaker 2: Jet Williams. Unfortunately, because now with Mauricio and Akunya. He

523
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Speaker 2: kind of becomes just extra. And it's not that jet

524
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Speaker 2: Jack cob be the best one of the of all three.

525
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Speaker 2: There's super possibility he's a stud in terms of value.

526
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Speaker 2: I think he probably is the highest guy too, that

527
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Speaker 2: the Mets would be able to trade if they were

528
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Speaker 2: going after someone big. So I'm gonna go jet all.

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Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, I agree with that. I think jet it

530
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Speaker 3: definitely is the best to highest on that. But yeah,

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Speaker 3: I'm with you on there is from keV Higg. Do

532
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Speaker 3: MLBIT teams need to consider a type of load management

533
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Speaker 3: plan to Pete Lindor needs to play every game. I mean, honestly,

534
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Speaker 3: I don't know baseball is. It's like, it's definitely a

535
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Speaker 3: physical grind. But I feel like if you keep yourself

536
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Speaker 3: in tu him, players have play one hundred two games

537
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Speaker 3: over and over again. He played one hundred and seventy

538
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Speaker 3: five games this year. That's the most any Met has

539
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Speaker 3: ever played in a single season, just with the playoffs

540
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Speaker 3: and everything, and I don't know, it didn't seem to

541
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Speaker 3: affect him. He got better as the season went on.

542
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Speaker 3: Door got through a back injury by took his week off,

543
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Speaker 3: and then he kept playing, playing, playing I don't know.

544
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Speaker 3: I'm comfortable with your baseball players playing as much. Possibly

545
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Speaker 3: the only time I would take them out is if

546
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Speaker 3: there's an obvious injury concern, guys that get off injured,

547
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Speaker 3: or just for general platoon things which those players do

548
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Speaker 3: not have.

549
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think there needs to be any load management.

550
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Speaker 2: I think maybe for older players, like we saw with

551
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Speaker 2: Jadie Martinez at one point, he just kind of got

552
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Speaker 2: ran into the ground and he definitely needed some days

553
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Speaker 2: off and it helped him at times. But for a

554
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Speaker 2: guy like Lindor, he's played every single day his entire career,

555
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Speaker 2: it seems like he's at his best when he's playing

556
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Speaker 2: every single day. A guy like Pete at his best

557
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Speaker 2: when he's playing every single day. Maybe Nimo, a guy

558
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Speaker 2: who gets like nicked and bruised a little bit more

559
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Speaker 2: throughout the season. I think it's more of a case

560
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Speaker 2: on case by case basis rather than an over arching

561
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Speaker 2: blanket statement like it is in the NBA, of like

562
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Speaker 2: sometimes your players are just gonna sit for absolutely no reason.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it just sometimes your team isn't good

564
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Speaker 3: enough to let those players sit, like load's managements in

565
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Speaker 3: the NBA. Because I don't know. His NBA regular season

566
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Speaker 3: games seemed to mostly nothing like imagine imagine peak at

567
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Speaker 3: one off day this year and Mets lose one more game,

568
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Speaker 3: we don't make the playoffs. None of this stuff even happens.

569
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Speaker 3: Like the margins are so razor thin that you almost

570
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Speaker 3: just can never do that. Next question for Maureen at

571
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Speaker 3: m STU at LGM, do you think the Mesh to

572
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Speaker 3: trade Bathy since he's proven that he cannot play in

573
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Speaker 3: New York. I think that's a little harsh.

574
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's a little crazy to say he's

575
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Speaker 2: proven he cannot play in New York. Again, remember what

576
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Speaker 2: Mark Viento's did before this year. Also, Brett Patty hasn't

577
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Speaker 2: proven he can play anywhere besides New York. Sounds like

578
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Speaker 2: this is New York's thinak for re Bay. I don't

579
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Speaker 2: think it's like within the city limits. I think it's

580
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Speaker 2: very much that Brett Batty has some holes in his

581
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Speaker 2: game right now, just like Mark Viento's did coming into

582
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Speaker 2: this season. Like he has holes in his game, there's

583
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Speaker 2: room for improvement. I'm for sure not giving up on

584
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Speaker 2: Brett Bady. Yet, there's nothing that tells you he can't

585
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Speaker 2: come up and be a very productive player for this team.

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Speaker 2: I'm not gonna tell you he's gonna be the next

587
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Speaker 2: Mark Viento's type pop off because that's insane. We might

588
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Speaker 2: not get one of those ever again. Like you said,

589
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Speaker 2: but I think if the right deal is available for

590
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Speaker 2: Brett Batty, you make the move, because there again, he

591
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Speaker 2: is kind of a little bit redundant on this team

592
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Speaker 2: right now. But there's no reason to give him up

593
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Speaker 2: for scraps, which I think some Mets fans are willing

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Speaker 2: to do.

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Speaker 3: Well, what's a coper right now for Brett Bay deal?

596
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Speaker 3: It's happened like who's a perennial top thirty ish prospect

597
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Speaker 3: that was traded after a very poor stint in the

598
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Speaker 3: major leagues. The only one I could really think of

599
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Speaker 3: is this past season Miguel Vargas, who was part of

600
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Speaker 3: a trade that got other parts but was traded with

601
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Speaker 3: other people. Like If Brett Bay's a difference maker and

602
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Speaker 3: a package that can get the Mets multiple pieces that

603
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Speaker 3: will impact the major league roster, I'm down to do it.

604
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Speaker 3: But I don't think that Brett Baty alone can really

605
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Speaker 3: met you much successfully in a trade.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I'm not doing the Dylan Carlson for

607
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Speaker 1: Seawan Armstrong trade like you saw the articles do, and

608
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Speaker 1: they ended up cutting Seawan Armstrong I think a week later.

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Speaker 3: So, and I think Carlson evens because just for defensive

610
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Speaker 3: values better than Brett Bay because he can handle centerfield,

611
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Speaker 3: and the Rays already seems to have done a swing

612
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Speaker 3: change with Dylan Carlson's early or the unlockmore power. So

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Speaker 3: I think that's just it's just kind of figure out

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Speaker 3: the way with him. The best thing is coaching. But

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Speaker 3: if an offer comes up, like starting said, like all

616
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Speaker 3: options are open, there's no nothing, but there's no reason

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Speaker 3: just to get Brett the office roster for scraps. And

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Speaker 3: I'm sure we're gonna get a question about this, but

619
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Speaker 3: I want to get this out of the way right away.

620
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Speaker 3: All Mets fans think that we're just Jeff Nenialer is

621
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Speaker 3: not gonna be on the team next year. Here there's

622
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Speaker 3: like a ninety eight percent change jeffing Neil's on the

623
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Speaker 3: team next year. No one is taking this contract out.

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Speaker 3: I think it's three more years for about about forty

625
00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:18,439
Speaker 3: million dollars is about what he is. He's not just

626
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Speaker 3: gonna magically disappear. To make a trade, someone else needs

627
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Speaker 3: to be on the other side of the trade, so

628
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Speaker 3: unless you're taking out somebody else's shitty contract, Like it's

629
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Speaker 3: really even though we have a glove of middle infielders,

630
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Speaker 3: but we saw from how baseball works this year and

631
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Speaker 3: a team like the Reds or the Dodgers having a

632
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Speaker 3: glove players just means that you have reenforcements for when

633
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Speaker 3: guy's absolutely eventually get hurt. He will be on the

634
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Speaker 3: team next year. Just getting ahead, just getting ahead of

635
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Speaker 3: that one.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he has value too. He plays multiple positions, he can.

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Speaker 2: Play the outfield like this, these are these are things

638
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Speaker 2: and the second half was great for him, but before

639
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Speaker 2: the injury. So I think a lot of people are

640
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Speaker 2: you know, this is what happens in the offseason. You're

641
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Speaker 2: eager to make trades, eager to make moves. Has the

642
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Speaker 2: team get instantly better right now today? And that's what

643
00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:57,640
Speaker 2: a lot of these questions are. We got one here

644
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Speaker 2: from the real Chuck sasks, how's your the evaluation of

645
00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:04,880
Speaker 2: Alvarez changed at all after a relatively down year, James,

646
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Speaker 2: what do you got?

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Speaker 3: A little? But not really I don't know, Like was

648
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Speaker 3: Francisco alf As ever an MVP candidate. I thought in

649
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Speaker 3: the offseason that he had a chance to go nuclear,

650
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Speaker 3: and like when I even say go nuclear, but like

651
00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:20,480
Speaker 3: basically cover up the holes in his swing, figure out

652
00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:22,320
Speaker 3: the way to be like a thirty five homer guy

653
00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:24,320
Speaker 3: who could actually hit two sixty, two seventy like that

654
00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:26,560
Speaker 3: would become one of the most valuablelayers in baseball. Playing cutcher,

655
00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:29,119
Speaker 3: that would become willing fancheris. I still think that ceiling

656
00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:30,960
Speaker 3: is here. He's still very young for a catcher to've

657
00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:33,840
Speaker 3: played this much. I think he's caught the most postseason games.

658
00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:35,639
Speaker 3: Man that he did the tweeted about it in the

659
00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:38,000
Speaker 3: postseason for anyone a catcher age twenty two or younger.

660
00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:40,119
Speaker 3: He had some ups and downs this year, but a

661
00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:41,399
Speaker 3: lot of it comes from the fact that he is

662
00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:43,600
Speaker 3: twenty two. Like he is emotional, Like he said, this

663
00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:45,480
Speaker 3: is the first time his entire baseball life he's ever

664
00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:48,240
Speaker 3: struggled like that wears on you. He got exposed a

665
00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:50,280
Speaker 3: lot of times, both for pitchers outside and the strikes

666
00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:51,720
Speaker 3: off for pitches up and in. He kind of moved in,

667
00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:53,600
Speaker 3: he kind of moved out. He was kind of playing

668
00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:55,240
Speaker 3: cat and mouse the pitchers and they were winning for

669
00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:57,120
Speaker 3: a while. But he also times and he won too,

670
00:25:57,440 --> 00:25:59,440
Speaker 3: So I don't think the long term has changed, but

671
00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:01,439
Speaker 3: also just think there's a good lesson for everyone that,

672
00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:03,520
Speaker 3: like we say all the time, we're really annoying with

673
00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:05,399
Speaker 3: the shit. Development is not linear, Like you don't just

674
00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:07,160
Speaker 3: get better, get better two points a year, two points

675
00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:08,800
Speaker 3: thegether that would be in the show. He could show

676
00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:10,280
Speaker 3: up next year be thirty points better and him was

677
00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:11,359
Speaker 3: this year, or we can show me be one more

678
00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:13,320
Speaker 3: point worse or one more point better. Like it's just

679
00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:14,840
Speaker 3: there's a push and pull here and there's a lot

680
00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:16,600
Speaker 3: of work to still be done with Francisco Alvarez.

681
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:18,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the only thing that's really changed for

682
00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:22,240
Speaker 2: me is maybe that ceiling, like you said, where I

683
00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:25,840
Speaker 2: don't know if he's going to be that perennial MVP

684
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:28,520
Speaker 2: type catcher, But I still think because of how hard

685
00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:31,320
Speaker 2: he hits the ball and defensively he is great besides blocking,

686
00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:33,359
Speaker 2: Like there's a lot of really good things in his game.

687
00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:36,440
Speaker 2: There's just also some worries because the eagerness in the

688
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:38,399
Speaker 2: swing and miss and being twenty two years old is

689
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:41,399
Speaker 2: definitely part of it. Like you mentioned, I still have

690
00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:43,800
Speaker 2: all the utmost faith in Francisco Alvarez, and I think

691
00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:46,399
Speaker 2: just another year of being a major leaguer working on

692
00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:47,720
Speaker 2: what he's got to work on. We know this dude

693
00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:50,760
Speaker 2: works harder than almost anybody as we've seen. I have

694
00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:52,200
Speaker 2: all the faith in this guy for sure.

695
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:54,080
Speaker 3: And he's still young in all the other catch so

696
00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:56,000
Speaker 3: much younger than all the other catch is Adley Rushman's

697
00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:58,520
Speaker 3: forty five years old. Were has just turned twenty six, Like,

698
00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:00,919
Speaker 3: there's there's a lot more time for Scualvas to get

699
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:02,359
Speaker 3: to a point where he were like, oh, this is

700
00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:03,320
Speaker 3: an all star all right?

701
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:05,280
Speaker 2: I got another one here from Colby. What do you

702
00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:07,840
Speaker 2: see your infield looking like for the future? Lots of

703
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:11,800
Speaker 2: lots of options and only three real spots? Three real spots?

704
00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:14,919
Speaker 2: Is McNeil just an outfielder? Once Mauricio is back, we'll

705
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:16,680
Speaker 2: jet see the field as a met if we bring

706
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:19,080
Speaker 2: back Pete. He just wants to know what the infield's

707
00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:21,959
Speaker 2: looking like for the future. I'll start it off with mine.

708
00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:27,400
Speaker 2: I think first base and it's gonna oh, man, I.

709
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:28,560
Speaker 1: Think Pete's back. I do.

710
00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:30,479
Speaker 2: I think Pete's back, So I think I'm gonna go

711
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:33,960
Speaker 2: Alvarez catcher Pete, first base, second base. Next year, I

712
00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:38,800
Speaker 2: expect starting second base is gonna be a platoon between

713
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:43,400
Speaker 2: Jeff McNeil and luisn Helacunya, shortstop javelindor third base Mark Vientos.

714
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:45,200
Speaker 2: He also might be a little bit of a DH

715
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:47,040
Speaker 2: and Ronnie Maursio could play a little bit of third

716
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:49,920
Speaker 2: base two. Ryan Marisio also tore his acl We gotta

717
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:51,720
Speaker 2: see him like just exist as a human being in

718
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:53,640
Speaker 2: play baseball before he make any big decisions.

719
00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:55,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think. I think a lot of fans try

720
00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:58,800
Speaker 3: to put like players in positions and lock them down.

721
00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:00,800
Speaker 3: We're realistically like, these things are fluid and they move

722
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:02,200
Speaker 3: around a lot. I think what happens with the Mets

723
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:03,960
Speaker 3: in field when we start next season is just that,

724
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:06,080
Speaker 3: like you said, there are some platoons on a couple

725
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:07,680
Speaker 3: of these guys make the team a couple then maybe

726
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:09,280
Speaker 3: don't have his good Nassi and don't have the goods

727
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:11,080
Speaker 3: spring training wind up back in Triple A because they're

728
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:13,760
Speaker 3: all still really young, especially Marisio and on Louis and Hilcunya,

729
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:16,600
Speaker 3: still guys who could definitely get more at bads Triple A.

730
00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:18,880
Speaker 3: I don't think that'd be shocking. But I just think

731
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:20,520
Speaker 3: one of them is on the roster next year, like

732
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:22,800
Speaker 3: instead of Zach Short and Joey Wendel. You remember how

733
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:24,639
Speaker 3: when those guys started the year like, same thing with

734
00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:26,880
Speaker 3: like Jose glaci Is, Like he you got you signed

735
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:28,919
Speaker 3: Jose Glacis and for major league depth and put him

736
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:30,320
Speaker 3: in Triple A start the year because you don't have

737
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:32,280
Speaker 3: these major league ready guys. So it's not a bad

738
00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:33,840
Speaker 3: thing that now you have them. You just don't have

739
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:35,920
Speaker 3: to worry about bringing that kind of guy in from

740
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:38,320
Speaker 3: the market. You can just have them in house. If

741
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:40,840
Speaker 3: Jeff McNeil strugglesor gets hurt, Louis and Hlcunia plays if

742
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:42,920
Speaker 3: he struggles or gets hurt, Ryan Ratio plays if he

743
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:45,400
Speaker 3: struggles or gets hurt, and this guy and Joe Williams

744
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 3: is playing, well, maybe he gets a shot. Like now

745
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:50,080
Speaker 3: we just have some interchangeable parts. That is a good

746
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:51,520
Speaker 3: thing and not a bad thing. I don't think that.

747
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:53,640
Speaker 3: I think it's good in the Mets aren't playing themselves

748
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:54,840
Speaker 3: in boxes any of these guys.

749
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, fluidity is a great thing to have. Again, look

750
00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:57,920
Speaker 1: at what the Dodgers just did.

751
00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:00,320
Speaker 2: Everybody plays every position except for the one guy who's

752
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:01,360
Speaker 2: the best player in baseball.

753
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:03,400
Speaker 3: I don't even say this, like, I don't even think

754
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 3: the Mets are out on actually going out and acquiring

755
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 3: a second basement if if they miss out some of

756
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:10,719
Speaker 3: the top free agents, Like, truthfully, would you be surprised

757
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 3: if the Mets give Glabor Torre as a bridge deal

758
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:14,719
Speaker 3: so you can have one more to build up?

759
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,360
Speaker 2: I would be surprised if the metal for labor tours

760
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:18,480
Speaker 2: that doesn't seem like money.

761
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:20,680
Speaker 3: Well, one for twenty one for twenty.

762
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:23,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, that would be it. I actually would be unbelievably

763
00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 2: against that. I think that'd be awful. I think that'd

764
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:27,760
Speaker 2: be a terrible move. I can't see David Serons making it.

765
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:29,960
Speaker 3: If you don't get so though, unless that you also

766
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:30,719
Speaker 3: don't get Pete.

767
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:35,480
Speaker 2: I would rather spend those twenty million dollars on seven

768
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 2: relievers than Glaber Torres. Glaber Torres, I know he's having

769
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:41,080
Speaker 2: a good postseason. He's a completely nothing player right now.

770
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 3: I see this part disagree with, but keep moving on. Yeah,

771
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:46,920
Speaker 3: Cliverer's a good ball players can make go ball play

772
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:47,440
Speaker 3: for a long time.

773
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:48,479
Speaker 1: Ever, does all right?

774
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 2: I got another question for you, Load up a voicemail

775
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Speaker 2: as I'm reading this one out too, so that we

776
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:54,280
Speaker 2: can mix it a mix a man between the CEA

777
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:57,239
Speaker 2: pro pro podcasting here. This one comes from Matt What

778
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Speaker 2: would the starting rotation be next year?

779
00:29:59,360 --> 00:29:59,680
Speaker 3: Slash?

780
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:02,680
Speaker 2: Who would you realistically like to see? I'm the Mets

781
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:06,200
Speaker 2: starting rotation from Free Agency. I got one guy, Corbyn

782
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:09,000
Speaker 2: Burns would love him. He would be great in this rotation.

783
00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:12,960
Speaker 2: The relationship with him, David Searns, I'm not sure about

784
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:14,880
Speaker 2: because David Stearns was the main They both.

785
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:15,720
Speaker 3: They both put that to bed.

786
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:17,760
Speaker 1: Oh they did. They both said it's over.

787
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:18,400
Speaker 8: Yeah.

788
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:19,720
Speaker 3: They both said that's no big deal.

789
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:22,640
Speaker 1: Good. Oh love love to hear that. That's amazing. Yeah,

790
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:24,440
Speaker 1: Corbyn Burns is the number one guy I want.

791
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:27,400
Speaker 3: Well, can I tell you this? Yes, I don't love

792
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:28,960
Speaker 3: Corbyn Burns at the money he's gonna get.

793
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 1: Well, what's what's his money gonna be?

794
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:32,600
Speaker 3: I think if you have to commit seven years to

795
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:33,600
Speaker 3: Corbyn Burns, I'd be out.

796
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:35,720
Speaker 1: Really, what would you commit to him?

797
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 3: I don't think I would commit more of a five

798
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:39,520
Speaker 3: year deal to him. I think that you've seen you've

799
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:41,240
Speaker 3: seen some fall down over the last two years of

800
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:43,240
Speaker 3: Corbyn Burns you've seen some less movement on his pasures,

801
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:46,160
Speaker 3: You've seen his color become not the dominant pitcher always

802
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:49,800
Speaker 3: once was. I think that he's someone who I don't

803
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:52,440
Speaker 3: know like, I just I would have trouble being like,

804
00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:55,400
Speaker 3: I'm gonna give Corbyn Burns like the Garrett basically the

805
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:57,600
Speaker 3: Garrett Cole contracts. That's kind of what he's going to need.

806
00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:01,440
Speaker 3: I don't exactly think that is someone that would do it, truthfully,

807
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:03,680
Speaker 3: my number one option in the market. And you're gonna

808
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 3: hate me for this. Mets fans are gonna despise me

809
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 3: for saying I can't wait to scream I'd rather have

810
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 3: Blake Snell with Corbyn Burns.

811
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:10,920
Speaker 1: Oh, I'm not gonna hate you for that.

812
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:13,800
Speaker 2: I mean, okay, I think it's crazy, but I'm not

813
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:14,640
Speaker 2: gonna hate you for it.

814
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 1: That's not I would. I don't agree, but I don't

815
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:16,760
Speaker 1: hate it.

816
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 3: I think you're gonna be able to give Blake Snell

817
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 3: basically half of the amount of years you're gonna have

818
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:22,160
Speaker 3: to give Corbyn Burns. And I think Corbyn Burns has

819
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:25,200
Speaker 3: shown basically a very a very small I think Horber

820
00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 3: is still a really good picture, but I think that

821
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 3: he sometimes is perceived as a top five pitcher. I

822
00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 3: think in reality now he's more like a top fifteen,

823
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:33,640
Speaker 3: top seventeen pitcher. Okay, so I think if if you

824
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 3: have to pay him like a top five pitcher, but

825
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:36,880
Speaker 3: you're getting a top seventeen pitcher and one who might

826
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:39,840
Speaker 3: be slowly declining, but also someone who could probably still

827
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:42,240
Speaker 3: bounce back a little bit. And just there were some

828
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 3: things that happens here with his pitch movement, his swinging

829
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:46,160
Speaker 3: miss like it just wasn't the same, yeah, I mean,

830
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:48,520
Speaker 3: and it was more consistent krate, which I think was

831
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:50,920
Speaker 3: like the lowest since he ever became a starting pitcher again,

832
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:52,840
Speaker 3: where Blake Snell just had the highest k rate of

833
00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:54,840
Speaker 3: his career at thirty four point seven percent granted one

834
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 3: hundred ins.

835
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Speaker 2: That's always the concern with Blake Snell. Corbin Burns has

836
00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:01,240
Speaker 2: given you innings the last four years. Consistant, Blake Snell

837
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:01,560
Speaker 2: is not.

838
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:04,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, you saw Corben Burns kind of also almost try

839
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:06,560
Speaker 3: to reinvent himself as a picture this year, not reinvent themself.

840
00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:08,960
Speaker 3: You see this sometimes when pictures go to new teams,

841
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:10,960
Speaker 3: try a lot of stuff really quickly. Maybe some of

842
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:12,600
Speaker 3: it works, maybe some of it doesn't. He also got

843
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:15,800
Speaker 3: to the Brewers relatively late in the off season last year,

844
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:17,240
Speaker 3: so he could have been in dat of the information.

845
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:19,440
Speaker 3: But it was a lot more a lot more up

846
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:21,120
Speaker 3: and down to his arsenal that used to be much

847
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:22,720
Speaker 3: more of an east to west arsenal, and then more

848
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:24,680
Speaker 3: sweeper and more slyer and more curveball and a few

849
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:28,239
Speaker 3: far fewer colors because that color was not as I mean,

850
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:29,720
Speaker 3: it was still really good. The color is still amazing,

851
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:32,280
Speaker 3: but it's just this incremental shit on Corbyn Burns where

852
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:34,760
Speaker 3: I'm just like, I don't I don't know if he's

853
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 3: ever going to be a top five pitcher again, So

854
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:38,000
Speaker 3: I don't know if I want to pay him like one.

855
00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 1: That's fair, you know what I can get behind that take.

856
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:40,760
Speaker 1: I still want him, but.

857
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, sure, but like for a seven, a seven for

858
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 3: two thirty a lot.

859
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:47,360
Speaker 1: It's a lot of money, I get.

860
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 3: I'm just that's something I just pulled out of my

861
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:53,480
Speaker 3: ass because it's close to the I was thinking, yeah, sure,

862
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:54,960
Speaker 3: yeah exactly. But then like, because then you have a

863
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:56,480
Speaker 3: guy like Snell, who I'm sure doesn't get more than

864
00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:58,880
Speaker 3: three years, I'd rather just pay have less years on

865
00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:00,920
Speaker 3: a big contract like that. I like, if you say

866
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 3: Kakuccio and watch two mil I two years, two years

867
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:06,920
Speaker 3: to two for fifty for Kakuchi, bring me to Kakuchi.

868
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:10,240
Speaker 3: Michael Waka has been unreal the last couple of years.

869
00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:13,200
Speaker 3: I love Michael Waka too. Michael Waka has been such

870
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 3: a steady guy. He might want too much money because

871
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:17,880
Speaker 3: he's been too good now. But god, you're gonna you know,

872
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 3: a guy like pavetas my week's my kryptonite.

873
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 1: Him if they get him them in the offseason, how

874
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 1: happy are you?

875
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 3: I'll be fucking thrilled. They'll be ecstatic over the moon.

876
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:29,960
Speaker 3: I mean there's also like shitty guys in the bottom here,

877
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 3: Like I'm sure Frankie Monzel's get cut loose again. I'd

878
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 3: love to get Franki Monzel's not a ten mil. I

879
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 3: mean Matt Boyd this year he somehow recouped tons of

880
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:39,320
Speaker 3: his value getting that change it back one year ten

881
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:41,760
Speaker 3: mil again? Like is this is? I think a lot

882
00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:43,440
Speaker 3: of Mets fans like, we won, Let's get the big

883
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 3: guys now where I think this is gonna be again

884
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:49,480
Speaker 3: discovering the Severinos and Manaias rather than repaying Severino Manaya.

885
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:51,640
Speaker 1: I think it's also interesting too.

886
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:54,760
Speaker 2: I trust whoever they get they have a plan, because

887
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:57,360
Speaker 2: let's be honest, going into the season, you said Sean

888
00:33:57,360 --> 00:33:58,800
Speaker 2: and Iah was gonna be one of your best pictures.

889
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:00,400
Speaker 2: I would have laughed in your face. There was no

890
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 2: way I saw that happening. I saw him being a

891
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:04,600
Speaker 2: productive pitcher, but I didn't see him being as good

892
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 2: as he was.

893
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:06,880
Speaker 1: So the best whoever David.

894
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:08,680
Speaker 2: Cerns in the Mets society want to sign, I'm just

895
00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:10,919
Speaker 2: gonna blindly accept that it was probably a good move

896
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,000
Speaker 2: and then until it stinks like.

897
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:16,560
Speaker 3: It Yeah, like, oh, Spencer turnbulls here and people are

898
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:18,200
Speaker 3: gonna hate it. Then Specer Turnle is gonna have like

899
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:19,879
Speaker 3: a three three R in the middle of JUNI be like, ay,

900
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:21,799
Speaker 3: Spencer Turble. Actually this kind of was working on a

901
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:24,480
Speaker 3: great savvy deal by the Mets. Like I think it's

902
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:26,839
Speaker 3: just gonna be chaos, Like it'll be just this will

903
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:28,640
Speaker 3: be disgusting. I wouldn't even be able to defend this one.

904
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:30,719
Speaker 3: Like when we get Patrick Corbin for one for ten

905
00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:32,840
Speaker 3: and he just throws one hundred and eighty innings at

906
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:35,759
Speaker 3: a four to three R in THETA Yeah, yeah, he

907
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:38,799
Speaker 3: just becomes Quintana. Nick Martinez went ballistic when he got

908
00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:40,319
Speaker 3: moved to the rotation this year. He's got a lot

909
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:42,799
Speaker 3: of pitches, very cerebral. Like, there's just there's just a

910
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:44,440
Speaker 3: lot of there's a lot of stuff you can do.

911
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:48,440
Speaker 3: Imagine the thrill of de signing Jordan Montgomery for twelve

912
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:50,919
Speaker 3: million dollars this year after everyone him for twenty five

913
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:52,879
Speaker 3: last year. Like, imagine that thrill. That's what David started

914
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:55,799
Speaker 3: thinking about right now. So I just think everyone needs

915
00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:57,520
Speaker 3: to be in us, included because we might not like

916
00:34:57,520 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 3: some of these moths. Sure, gotta be open minded with

917
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:01,200
Speaker 3: this rotation. What winds up happening here?

918
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:02,840
Speaker 1: Hit us with one of those voicemails?

919
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:05,840
Speaker 3: Now, Oh yeah, I got too excited. I closed my phone.

920
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 2: Oh wait, before you do the voicemail. We got to

921
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:11,360
Speaker 2: another rad definitely almost forgot. We got we gotta do

922
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:13,719
Speaker 2: ads on this podcast. Now completely forgot. Now you got

923
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:14,800
Speaker 2: the voicemail for us.

924
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:15,720
Speaker 3: Got from our boy Willie.

925
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:20,800
Speaker 4: Wow, wait, it's a four minute voicemail.

926
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 1: Four minutes.

927
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:26,480
Speaker 3: I'll start it. I'll start the Willie. Thank you for

928
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 3: your excitement. You're you're you're the man, I mean, Willie's

929
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:31,440
Speaker 3: a legend can't do four minutes. I'm sorry, We're going

930
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:32,200
Speaker 3: to see where this goes.

931
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:40,719
Speaker 9: So I just sat there in silent, thankful, tearful appreciation

932
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:45,120
Speaker 9: of this team after that game on Sunday, and boy,

933
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:47,359
Speaker 9: I was exhausted one day and took the day off

934
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:50,319
Speaker 9: work and slept in and then just went out in

935
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:55,920
Speaker 9: the countryside the detox. But this is, uh, this is

936
00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:58,440
Speaker 9: one of the best rides we've been on. And for

937
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 9: a team that people were king David Stern's over spring

938
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:05,719
Speaker 9: training when he insisted we would be competing for a

939
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:10,879
Speaker 9: wild card spot in the in the fall with his team,

940
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:13,360
Speaker 9: we we underestimated him. And I think that's smile on

941
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 9: David Stern's face in mind that you thought we were

942
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 9: competing for a heck.

943
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:17,720
Speaker 8: A lot more.

944
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 3: Pause, Willy, I'm gonna scroll ahead for will He just

945
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:24,160
Speaker 3: did his own podcast for us for I don't know

946
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:25,920
Speaker 3: who who I had talked to for four minutes.

947
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:28,040
Speaker 2: I didn't know you could do voice messages for four

948
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 2: minutes on Instagram.

949
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:30,239
Speaker 1: Frankie Peppers always has to.

950
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:32,239
Speaker 3: Stop his thank you for the podcast, Willie.

951
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:35,640
Speaker 2: Will you appreciate you? You didn't get a question in there,

952
00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 2: so we got nothing to answer, but thank you.

953
00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:38,880
Speaker 1: We appreciate it.

954
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:42,400
Speaker 3: Future voicemails, guys, keep him like thirty seconds and but

955
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:45,080
Speaker 3: Willy and you can, you can keep your four minute limit.

956
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 3: We'll give you that because you're you're a great You're

957
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:48,600
Speaker 3: a great friend. So keep moving on here for some

958
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:50,960
Speaker 3: other questions. You got one.

959
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, this comes from Nick. Where would you, guys rank

960
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:56,160
Speaker 2: Wan Soto in importance for the Mets this offseason?

961
00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:58,680
Speaker 3: The highest, the most, everything?

962
00:36:58,840 --> 00:36:59,399
Speaker 1: Number one?

963
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 2: I mean, where would you rank the third best player

964
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:03,720
Speaker 2: in Major League Baseball?

965
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 1: Do you think the Mets? Do you think the Mets

966
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 1: need him the most?

967
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:06,600
Speaker 3: Yes?

968
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:09,440
Speaker 2: Yes, Look what he did for this Yankees team. This

969
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:11,719
Speaker 2: team had no vibe, no juice, no energy. They're in

970
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 2: the World Series, granted because they're the best team in

971
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 2: the Al Central. But Wan Soto changed a lot with

972
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:19,040
Speaker 2: that clubhouse, that locker room, that vibe, and also he's

973
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:19,839
Speaker 2: fucking good.

974
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is probably the most consequential for one of

975
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:25,839
Speaker 3: the most consequential free agents in our lifetime, like show

976
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:27,400
Speaker 3: Hey had last year, but those kind of felt like

977
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:28,840
Speaker 3: it was a guarantee he was gonna wind up a

978
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:31,279
Speaker 3: Dodger where some though, it does feel like it's kind

979
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 3: of up in the air between the Mets and the Yankees.

980
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 3: I think it's much more likely Yankees. But I don't

981
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:38,120
Speaker 3: think that means the Mets are out this. Every single

982
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:39,920
Speaker 3: resource should be spent on trying to get once so

983
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 3: of this offseason, nothing should happen until he makes his decision.

984
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 2: No, absolutely not. He's uh kind of can't really do

985
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:49,120
Speaker 2: anything until he does. All right, let's see what else

986
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 2: we've got here. I mean a lot of people ask us,

987
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:55,720
Speaker 2: can chickens fly? Chickens can fly? Right, No, chickens definitely

988
00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:56,120
Speaker 2: cannot fly.

989
00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:57,360
Speaker 1: What do they do when they get up in? Is

990
00:37:57,400 --> 00:37:58,120
Speaker 1: that just a jump?

991
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 3: I think it's like a jump with air. Okay, we

992
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:01,760
Speaker 3: have wings.

993
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:04,359
Speaker 2: A jump with air? You said, not a hair right air?

994
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:05,879
Speaker 2: What are you playing right now?

995
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:07,760
Speaker 3: I'm trying to get more stuff from the Instagram.

996
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:09,520
Speaker 1: Oh okay, God, I got it. This guy.

997
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 2: This guy's falling apart professional podcast. All right, I'll find

998
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:15,480
Speaker 2: another question for it. Oh you're gonna love this one, James.

999
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 2: I think we kind of did answer it. But in

1000
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:20,440
Speaker 2: a perfect yet realistic world. Who are the five slash

1001
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:22,759
Speaker 2: six starters in the Mets rotation? In twenty twenty five?

1002
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 2: I think we're gonna take that as like the fifth

1003
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:24,880
Speaker 2: and sixth starter.

1004
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:29,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you're gonna see Tyler McGill with another chance,

1005
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:32,520
Speaker 3: to doubt to be the fifth sixth starter because you

1006
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:35,040
Speaker 3: had You're lucky to have some organizational depth with him

1007
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:37,680
Speaker 3: and David Peterson that can just be good any given

1008
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:39,359
Speaker 3: moment or else to be bad at some certain moments.

1009
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:41,600
Speaker 3: You're gonna see him there. We're gonna see Brad as

1010
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:43,960
Speaker 3: Broke at a chance. I saw some picture prospect questions,

1011
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:45,800
Speaker 3: so I'll save some of the stuff unsproket until we

1012
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:48,239
Speaker 3: start talking about it there. But he got he gotta

1013
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:50,399
Speaker 3: taste such triple A. He didn't pitch very well there,

1014
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:52,440
Speaker 3: but he's gonna have a chance, just like Christian Scott,

1015
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:55,239
Speaker 3: to come through in spring training if he looks good.

1016
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:57,319
Speaker 3: If he looks good early in the season, by May,

1017
00:38:57,360 --> 00:38:59,840
Speaker 3: you're gonna start to think that's a serious possibility. And

1018
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 3: then you're probably gonna see Boot again another chance there too.

1019
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:03,800
Speaker 3: Like I think they're still gonna try Boodoo as a

1020
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:06,560
Speaker 3: star the similar to McGill, similar to Peterson. Just start

1021
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 3: until you absolutely positively failed there.

1022
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 2: Yep, all right, we got a combination here from Isaac

1023
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 2: and Jack shout out Isaac shower Jack basically both asking

1024
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:18,240
Speaker 2: who is the brightest pitching prospect in the Mets farm system.

1025
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 2: And I'm gonna say this not name Brandon Sproke because

1026
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:21,720
Speaker 2: we know that's gonna be your answer.

1027
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:25,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's still definitely Nolan MacLean. He still

1028
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 3: has so much more to learn and to do and

1029
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:30,960
Speaker 3: to grow as as a pitcher, and he still probably

1030
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:33,440
Speaker 3: has the best pitch in the Mets minor league system,

1031
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 3: which is his sweepers sweeper that I've said before, I'll

1032
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:38,120
Speaker 3: say it again. Feels back going back to all these

1033
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:39,960
Speaker 3: quips after we just had the playoff runs. It feels

1034
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:43,279
Speaker 3: like we got dizzy for a prospects literally and now

1035
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:46,440
Speaker 3: I've got half these guys existed. But he, Nolan McLean

1036
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 3: just has a sweeper that would be one of the

1037
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 3: best pitches in Major League Baseball right now. If you

1038
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:50,800
Speaker 3: can find you in a fastball, find a color to

1039
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:53,319
Speaker 3: bridge them like you have, you have someone that could

1040
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:55,920
Speaker 3: be a literal monster, Like it's someone that could maybe

1041
00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:58,759
Speaker 3: contribute down the stretch of twenty twenty five. I think

1042
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:00,120
Speaker 3: that's distinctly poss.

1043
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:01,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think this guy will make an impact

1044
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:03,400
Speaker 2: on the team next year. But I do think Jonah

1045
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:05,440
Speaker 2: Tong is also worth having the conversation about as one

1046
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:08,479
Speaker 2: of the brightest Mets pitching prospects. He just dominated every

1047
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:10,920
Speaker 2: single level this year. Granted Double A was only nine innings,

1048
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:13,320
Speaker 2: but in those two starts at two ADR, he struck

1049
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:15,880
Speaker 2: out fourteen of the thirty seven batters he faced, he

1050
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:18,759
Speaker 2: walked only four. Like, there was just really good things

1051
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:21,239
Speaker 2: that we've seen from Jonah Tong in his second professional

1052
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 2: season ever, pitching at age twenty one. That leaves you

1053
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:26,879
Speaker 2: to be really excited about what he could do next

1054
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 2: year with a full year at Double A, maybe even

1055
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:29,839
Speaker 2: get the Triple A by the end of it.

1056
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, someone that's a freak and that could wind up

1057
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:34,239
Speaker 3: being one of the most exciting pitching prospects in all

1058
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:36,360
Speaker 3: of baseball. But by the time we get to next summer,

1059
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:39,120
Speaker 3: and I guess some questions from the Instagram, they're also

1060
00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 3: on starting pitching. It it's a good one from Jack.

1061
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:44,319
Speaker 3: Where does Maricio fit in next year? Part one and

1062
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:46,560
Speaker 3: Part two? Do you still see David Pearson as a

1063
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 3: starter or a long reliever? I think David Peterson has

1064
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:52,719
Speaker 3: earned his right to start until he proves otherwise. I

1065
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:56,319
Speaker 3: also think that he's not as rock solid maybe as

1066
00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:58,560
Speaker 3: this year made him look. Still I think he's still

1067
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:02,160
Speaker 3: quite good, but I think David Peters is still someone

1068
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:04,960
Speaker 3: who's gonna gradually wind up in more of that high threes,

1069
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 3: low fours kind of guy with We're still trying to

1070
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 3: get some strikeout, They're still trying to find tune everything.

1071
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:11,160
Speaker 3: But David Peterson definitely get at your next year in

1072
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:14,120
Speaker 3: the mes rotation. No, David Peterson is for sure a

1073
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 3: Mets n question. It's not a question at all. And

1074
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 3: I think Marisio SAMs said before like he's just gonna

1075
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:20,239
Speaker 3: be in this mix and he has a chance to

1076
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:22,759
Speaker 3: prove himself. Also he has he can take time if

1077
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:23,239
Speaker 3: he needs it.

1078
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:26,359
Speaker 2: I also want to remind Mets fans too, and it's

1079
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:28,960
Speaker 2: it's the same thing. Mauricio is awesome as we think

1080
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:31,920
Speaker 2: he can be because the physical attributes are just out

1081
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:33,960
Speaker 2: of control with him. The dude's fast, he hits bombs,

1082
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:37,840
Speaker 2: he hits the ball hard. He did struggle mightily, mightily

1083
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:40,320
Speaker 2: at the major league level in his first twenty six games.

1084
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:42,479
Speaker 2: There's a world that you mentioned earlier when Marisco starts

1085
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:44,279
Speaker 2: to year in Triple A, just because he hasn't played

1086
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:46,719
Speaker 2: professional baseball in a year and we have Luis on

1087
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:49,399
Speaker 2: Helicunya who can play the same positions right now, there's

1088
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:51,840
Speaker 2: no reason to rush into Ronnie Mauricio, who will be

1089
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 2: twenty four on opening day next year. April fourth, two

1090
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:56,440
Speaker 2: thousand and one is his birthday, which is crazy to

1091
00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:59,120
Speaker 2: say out loud. Let him play some baseball, let him

1092
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:01,319
Speaker 2: get comfortable. He'll be back up making an impact at

1093
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:03,680
Speaker 2: some point. He still has a lot to prove. That's

1094
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:05,680
Speaker 2: that's I think there's a lot of pressure almost being

1095
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 2: put on ron and Maurisio right now.

1096
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:08,000
Speaker 1: That's unnecessary.

1097
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:09,880
Speaker 3: I think all these guys do. I think it's just

1098
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:11,799
Speaker 3: a blessing for the Mets and different it's a weird

1099
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:14,400
Speaker 3: feeling for us Mets fans because we haven't seen the

1100
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:17,880
Speaker 3: Mets develop this many major league caliber prospects at the

1101
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:20,399
Speaker 3: same time in a long time. Like we're getting an

1102
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:22,799
Speaker 3: influx of like six seven position players in a two

1103
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:24,719
Speaker 3: year stretch that could all be here for a very

1104
00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:26,640
Speaker 3: long time. Like that's a really cool thing. I think

1105
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:28,080
Speaker 3: it's just a good thing to give the all of

1106
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:29,440
Speaker 3: these kids space to do their.

1107
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:33,759
Speaker 2: Development all right, Chris says, what is the fear of regression?

1108
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 2: With Manaia and Severino going so far past their prior

1109
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:39,120
Speaker 2: inning totals, would you avoid them for twenty twenty five?

1110
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:41,239
Speaker 2: Or is what they did sustainable? And I'll just hand

1111
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:42,680
Speaker 2: that one off to you, pitching man first.

1112
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:44,759
Speaker 3: Thing might not matter, good chance neither of these guys

1113
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:48,200
Speaker 3: are mess next year. But I think with Manaiah, weirdly

1114
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:50,200
Speaker 3: this might be the answer to some people aren't expecting.

1115
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:52,759
Speaker 3: But I think for him it's matter's more. He's a

1116
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:55,240
Speaker 3: little bit older than Severino, and I've done some breathing,

1117
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:56,799
Speaker 3: some stuff, you know, serious to the piece about it.

1118
00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:58,239
Speaker 3: And I saw someone else one of the drive line

1119
00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:00,120
Speaker 3: guys can't remember right now. I'm mean Jack Lambert, do

1120
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:03,320
Speaker 3: something about it. About when you change your arm angle

1121
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:07,880
Speaker 3: in a pronounced in a in a pronounced way in

1122
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:10,319
Speaker 3: the season, it can lead to more injuries down the

1123
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:12,160
Speaker 3: line because you're doing something your body is not as

1124
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 3: used to do. When you're changing, you're changing a processes

1125
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:16,759
Speaker 3: like hard and in the middle of when you're working

1126
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:19,279
Speaker 3: really hard, doing stuff like consistently. So I think I again,

1127
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:21,040
Speaker 3: like he did, run out of gas, think that's just

1128
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:22,719
Speaker 3: because of the fatigue of how much he did pitch

1129
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:24,880
Speaker 3: this year. But I do weirdly think that there is

1130
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:26,839
Speaker 3: there is a team tiny concerned about. Again, he might

1131
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:29,920
Speaker 3: not be a mess, so it doesn't matter. But whereas

1132
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 3: I think Severino on the other side, I'm more confident

1133
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:34,279
Speaker 3: him because when he leaned on that sinker this year,

1134
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:37,120
Speaker 3: that pitch seemed for him specifically be a little kinder

1135
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:39,080
Speaker 3: on his arm. He stopped trying to overthrow his fastball

1136
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:41,080
Speaker 3: to get that same back spin, the same hot he

1137
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:42,920
Speaker 3: used to get that he wasn't able to achieve anymore.

1138
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:46,480
Speaker 3: So I'm weirdly a little more confident him than Mania.

1139
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:49,759
Speaker 3: But i'mso not not concerned about either of them regression wise.

1140
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:52,160
Speaker 3: I think skills wise, they get these regress but I

1141
00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:54,680
Speaker 3: think that I think it's a good chance neither a MET,

1142
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:55,120
Speaker 3: So I don't care.

1143
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:57,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think if anybody is going to be a MET,

1144
00:43:57,040 --> 00:43:58,800
Speaker 2: I think the more likely pick is going to be

1145
00:43:58,840 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 2: Louis Severino.

1146
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 3: I don't.

1147
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:01,719
Speaker 2: I really just can't see him and eye and not

1148
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:03,040
Speaker 2: getting paid this offseason.

1149
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 3: No, I also can't see him getting paid by us.

1150
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:06,400
Speaker 1: No, it doesn't.

1151
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:08,800
Speaker 2: It doesn't seem like unless he's gonna take a huge discount,

1152
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:09,520
Speaker 2: which I don't think he is.

1153
00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:10,600
Speaker 1: He shouldn't go get paid.

1154
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:13,359
Speaker 3: Have a question here from Ben, what can we realistically

1155
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:16,160
Speaker 3: expect from Mark Fiento's Was this year close to his

1156
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:18,720
Speaker 3: offensive ceiling? Could there be better numbers in his future

1157
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:22,560
Speaker 3: or should we expect some regression. I think that the

1158
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:24,719
Speaker 3: sky has become the limb with Mark Fiento's. I think

1159
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 3: Mark Fiento's has put himself in position to become truthfully

1160
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:31,000
Speaker 3: like something that looks like a star. And that's a

1161
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:33,560
Speaker 3: hard line from where I used to think he was,

1162
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:36,279
Speaker 3: because there's been a tangible change in his game. His

1163
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:39,680
Speaker 3: combination this year of improving his play disciplayed while maintaining

1164
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:42,279
Speaker 3: his power, while improving his pitch selection put him up

1165
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:43,680
Speaker 3: with some of the best players in the league. And

1166
00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:45,759
Speaker 3: I think at that point, like you just really can't

1167
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:47,560
Speaker 3: deny what he's capable of anymore.

1168
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:50,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's gonna be the It's gonna be

1169
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:53,400
Speaker 2: very uh like Roundhog's Day, Spider Man mean pointing at

1170
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:56,560
Speaker 2: each other. But look at what JD. Martinez did once

1171
00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 2: he started to break out. They have very similar batprofiles.

1172
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:02,080
Speaker 2: They built the ball hard. Both go to opposite field

1173
00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:04,640
Speaker 2: with power. Jady Martinez as a twenty six year old

1174
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:06,600
Speaker 2: when he really got his first playing time in Detroit,

1175
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:09,320
Speaker 2: popped off for a nine to twelve ops. Viento's this

1176
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:11,520
Speaker 2: year guy his first playing time eight thirty seven. But

1177
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 2: the ops pluses are like kind of similar in that

1178
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:17,120
Speaker 2: same range of being like really good players, what are

1179
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:17,960
Speaker 2: their zone contacts?

1180
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:20,800
Speaker 3: That's the one spot that Vento still struggles and something

1181
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:22,480
Speaker 3: that I think he can still improve upon, but maybe

1182
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 3: he just can't because of how powerful he is, Like

1183
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:26,759
Speaker 3: maybe that's just something that never gets better. And that

1184
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:28,560
Speaker 3: kind of to me reminds me more of like a

1185
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:31,080
Speaker 3: it's a little Schwarburish.

1186
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:33,720
Speaker 2: Okay, interesting, Yeah, I think Also it's hard to almost

1187
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 2: compare the zone contact too from like twenty fourteen to now,

1188
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:39,000
Speaker 2: just because pitching is just so massively different too.

1189
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:42,040
Speaker 3: But like that that's where Vento struggles, because as much

1190
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 3: better as he got with his play discipline selectivity this year,

1191
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 3: which is amazing, like he still just swings and miss

1192
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:49,200
Speaker 3: is a ton, yes, but that that's fine because he

1193
00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:51,440
Speaker 3: takes Daddy hacks and hits the ball four hundred and

1194
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:53,919
Speaker 3: fifty feet, So it doesn't really matter. But the thing

1195
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:55,640
Speaker 3: that if he can't get better at that, it's just

1196
00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:57,880
Speaker 3: incrementally improving that chase ray a little bit more and

1197
00:45:57,880 --> 00:45:59,360
Speaker 3: a little bit more and a little bit more, that

1198
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 3: chase rate gets to league average, because it was still

1199
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:02,759
Speaker 3: pretty well below the league average this year, but you're

1200
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:05,359
Speaker 3: still making and his contact rate was still low too,

1201
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:07,399
Speaker 3: which is still the one thing I guess that can

1202
00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:09,279
Speaker 3: lead to some regression when pitchers to find a way

1203
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:12,320
Speaker 3: to face him. But he just murders the baseball. He

1204
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 3: hits it so hard, he hits it so hard consistently,

1205
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:16,160
Speaker 3: and now that he started pulling it, that was another

1206
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:19,120
Speaker 3: big thing he proved this year. All those things together

1207
00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:21,040
Speaker 3: make me think that this is just super legit. And

1208
00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:23,200
Speaker 3: here this stay, especially the selectivity, that's the one that

1209
00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:24,880
Speaker 3: was big, because if you're chasing and you're missing in

1210
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:27,399
Speaker 3: the zone and you're swinging at the wrong pitches, then

1211
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:29,319
Speaker 3: it's kind of it's kind of Bullshit's kind of fake.

1212
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:31,879
Speaker 3: But the fact he's swinging at the right pitches when

1213
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:33,839
Speaker 3: he makes contact, it goes a long way, and that's

1214
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:34,920
Speaker 3: what could make him a superstar.

1215
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 2: One hundred percent quick one from our buddy Joe DeMeo

1216
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:39,239
Speaker 2: James when you're getting your ears pierced.

1217
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:41,279
Speaker 3: Uh seven eight years ago.

1218
00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:43,600
Speaker 1: There you go. I hope to hear that.

1219
00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 2: Steve Miller with a serious question, how do you feel

1220
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:47,600
Speaker 2: about the coaching staff moving forward?

1221
00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 1: Any change is needed? I'll tell you what I know.

1222
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:53,360
Speaker 2: We've been big dissenters of Eric Chavez and just the

1223
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:55,560
Speaker 2: fact that we think he's not the best hitting coach

1224
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:58,440
Speaker 2: for modern baseball. But I'm kind of ok with is

1225
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:00,360
Speaker 2: letting things ride again. I don't think they're to be

1226
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:03,359
Speaker 2: any huge shakeups. Doesn't really matter what we think about

1227
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:05,040
Speaker 2: the hitting coach. If the players like them and they

1228
00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:07,200
Speaker 2: feel comfortable and they feel like they're performing their best,

1229
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:10,160
Speaker 2: I think that's more important than me and James's hitting

1230
00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:12,040
Speaker 2: philosophy being what the Mets actually do.

1231
00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:15,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, and also I admitted that we ate some crow

1232
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:17,239
Speaker 3: on here because it did seem like Alvarez struggled more

1233
00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:18,799
Speaker 3: when he got too obsessed with polling, and then he

1234
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:21,200
Speaker 3: had to take his deep breath, relax, just see the

1235
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:23,439
Speaker 3: ball go through the whole a few times, and that's

1236
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:25,760
Speaker 3: what kind of put him back on track. And Stearns

1237
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:27,759
Speaker 3: was asked his questions specifically in the press convers sdate,

1238
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:29,600
Speaker 3: and again, like everything else, he was super not committed

1239
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:31,200
Speaker 3: on it. So we'll evaluate everything. We like, all the

1240
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:33,399
Speaker 3: coaches we have in the building, blah blah blah blah blah,

1241
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:35,400
Speaker 3: like he did for everything. So I think I'm pretty

1242
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:37,160
Speaker 3: confident as long as Jeremy Hefner goes nowhere.

1243
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:40,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's Jeremy Heffner. Carlos Mendoza cannot leave. Those

1244
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:41,040
Speaker 2: are the two guys.

1245
00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:43,640
Speaker 1: Pay pay them all the money wan so doo fuck them,

1246
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:44,319
Speaker 1: don't need them.

1247
00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:46,400
Speaker 3: I got from I got a question from the instagram,

1248
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:47,960
Speaker 3: changing tones a little bit, just to break up some

1249
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:51,719
Speaker 3: of the offseason talk from random baseball players. What is

1250
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:53,920
Speaker 3: the first memory you've ever had watch if you ever

1251
00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:54,880
Speaker 3: had watching the Mets.

1252
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:57,719
Speaker 2: I really like the first conceptual memory I can think

1253
00:47:57,760 --> 00:47:59,960
Speaker 2: of is that top Brat home run ninety nine's that's

1254
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:03,359
Speaker 2: the first one when you were three? Yeah, oh my god, wow,

1255
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:06,200
Speaker 2: watching baseball was three crazy. But like my dad said,

1256
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:07,920
Speaker 2: we watched baseball games all the time before that. The

1257
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:09,600
Speaker 2: top Pratt one was the first one I remember, and

1258
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:11,120
Speaker 2: I think part of it is because I called the

1259
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:14,160
Speaker 2: police thinking that okay, nine one seven was nine one one.

1260
00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:17,000
Speaker 3: Okay, that's a good one. I see, I gain. I

1261
00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:20,640
Speaker 3: didn't really conceptualize baseball, so I was probably five six ish,

1262
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:22,960
Speaker 3: but I remember, weirdly a game the Mets played with

1263
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:26,440
Speaker 3: the Expos in Montreal. I don't know why. It's like

1264
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:28,560
Speaker 3: a zap in my memory. The first time I can

1265
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:31,360
Speaker 3: recognize I understood that what was happening on television and

1266
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:34,080
Speaker 3: why I like the guys in those colors didn't like

1267
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:35,640
Speaker 3: the guys in the other colors. Some reason, there was

1268
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 3: a game and I don't even remember that stadium was called,

1269
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:40,440
Speaker 3: but in Montreal, like two thousand and two, wish, And

1270
00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:42,880
Speaker 3: that was the first time I became, like, I don't know,

1271
00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:44,720
Speaker 3: my brain was active watching baseball.

1272
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:46,480
Speaker 1: I think it's a good one. That's I like that.

1273
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:49,719
Speaker 2: We've got a couple of more gimmicky ones where Krats

1274
00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:51,440
Speaker 2: and Kizinski they can talk about this the next time

1275
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:54,759
Speaker 2: we're on. Do the Mets bring back Grimace and order

1276
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:57,000
Speaker 2: the OMG gimmicks for the twenty twenty five season or

1277
00:48:57,080 --> 00:48:58,640
Speaker 2: is it something that should be just left alone for

1278
00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:00,960
Speaker 2: twenty twenty four. I'm gonna combine it with a question

1279
00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:03,960
Speaker 2: from Cody if Jose Glaciers signs elsewhere, you can't play

1280
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:05,279
Speaker 2: OMG in the stadium.

1281
00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:05,480
Speaker 1: Anymore, right.

1282
00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:09,279
Speaker 3: I think this is gonna be a huge talking point

1283
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:11,680
Speaker 3: next year. We also have from Devid same thing on Instagram.

1284
00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:13,759
Speaker 3: Do you bring back Grimace next year? I think there's

1285
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:17,399
Speaker 3: another person who said it too, but I I think

1286
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:19,239
Speaker 3: we're gonna have different Oh here's another one from a

1287
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:21,440
Speaker 3: train to team to continue now a grimmage OMG next

1288
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:23,680
Speaker 3: season and let it go down with this season. I

1289
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:27,479
Speaker 3: think that's gonna be a talking point that we're gonna

1290
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:29,160
Speaker 3: be a little more in tune with in other people,

1291
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:30,640
Speaker 3: because I think you and I would both be like,

1292
00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:33,560
Speaker 3: leave that shit in the fuck the last. But I

1293
00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:35,279
Speaker 3: don't think there's any way the Mets will do that.

1294
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:37,200
Speaker 3: If we know anyth about the metal organizations, they will

1295
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:39,839
Speaker 3: run a marketing campaign into the ground, and I think

1296
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:42,080
Speaker 3: they plan to do that with especially with Grimmace. I

1297
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:43,239
Speaker 3: don't know by the om jeekes. I think it does

1298
00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:45,640
Speaker 3: depend on Glasias if the Glaciers retires, If he never

1299
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:47,680
Speaker 3: plays another baseball game or he never plays an outside

1300
00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:49,960
Speaker 3: of Mets uniform, that's our song forever. I don't give

1301
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:52,719
Speaker 3: a shit. Like well, I was in my room the

1302
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:55,000
Speaker 3: other day and I heard a car drive by it

1303
00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:56,480
Speaker 3: homes she was playing out of the car, and I

1304
00:49:56,600 --> 00:49:58,400
Speaker 3: was like, hell yeah, like it brought us Leigitus miles

1305
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:00,680
Speaker 3: in my face. But the Grimmace stuff is just simply

1306
00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:02,600
Speaker 3: going to make the Mets money. They probably are gonna

1307
00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:04,920
Speaker 3: sign some kind of actual partnership with McDonald's, some kind

1308
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:07,000
Speaker 3: of marketing campaign, so I'm sure it's gonna be part.

1309
00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:08,600
Speaker 3: There might be shakes, there might be fries in the

1310
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:09,279
Speaker 3: same next year.

1311
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Speaker 1: McDonald's gonna be in the stadium next year, for sure, That's.

1312
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:13,239
Speaker 3: What I'm saying. Like, they're gonna do this. This is

1313
00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:15,480
Speaker 3: just gonna become like another way for a mega corporation

1314
00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:17,359
Speaker 3: to make some money. If to mega corporations make money

1315
00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:19,239
Speaker 3: at the same time, if it was up to me,

1316
00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:21,359
Speaker 3: I would let buy guns be buy guns. I would

1317
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:22,680
Speaker 3: say good bye the Grimmas, thank you very much for

1318
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:24,520
Speaker 3: your help, and then we have to find new gimmicks

1319
00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:26,360
Speaker 3: next year. But there's no chance the Mets actually do that.

1320
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:26,520
Speaker 5: No.

1321
00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:28,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, we know how I thought about the seat,

1322
00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:31,239
Speaker 2: and that was when things were going well. I think

1323
00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:33,399
Speaker 2: not yet they were not going well yet not going

1324
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:33,839
Speaker 2: well yet.

1325
00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:34,920
Speaker 3: I changed it soon.

1326
00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:38,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do think that OMG for sure is dead.

1327
00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:40,640
Speaker 2: If jose Gleasias isn't here, if he's here, play it all,

1328
00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:42,880
Speaker 2: play it again. It's a great fucking song. It's a banger,

1329
00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:46,000
Speaker 2: it's a heat, it's going down. But the grimmest stuff,

1330
00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:47,600
Speaker 2: I think, just tone it back a little bit.

1331
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:49,480
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be like get once in a while

1332
00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:52,040
Speaker 1: kill but like, I don't know, maybe like opening day,

1333
00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:55,799
Speaker 1: Grimma shows up, Sure, that's fine, a big series. In June,

1334
00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:58,480
Speaker 1: Grimmy shows up, Sure, But like I don't want Grimace

1335
00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:00,719
Speaker 1: every single game, Like we kind of towards the end

1336
00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:02,239
Speaker 1: of the year, but the vibes were good at the

1337
00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:04,040
Speaker 1: end of the year, so that's when it works. Can't

1338
00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:06,160
Speaker 1: run it into the ground more than we have already.

1339
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:09,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, playoffs, we needed it. And I think the biggest

1340
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:11,640
Speaker 3: thing too, is it gets a lot of clicks online. Yes,

1341
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:14,359
Speaker 3: a lot of what all these people really care about now?

1342
00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:16,759
Speaker 3: So they're gonna hit the click button. I'm gonna get

1343
00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:19,040
Speaker 3: some more offseason talk long episodes for you guys. Are

1344
00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:20,160
Speaker 3: gonna hit another ad first.

1345
00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:22,359
Speaker 2: Though, all right, I think we're gonna do two more

1346
00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:24,920
Speaker 2: questions here and then go over some reviews and then

1347
00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:26,759
Speaker 2: wrap up this long episode that we haven't been able

1348
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:28,799
Speaker 2: to do in a while. I'm just seeing a lot

1349
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:32,879
Speaker 2: about Mets moves besides Soto, and the name that keeps

1350
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:36,000
Speaker 2: coming up is Anthony Santander. Do you have any interest

1351
00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:38,399
Speaker 2: in Anthony Santander? Does he have room on this team?

1352
00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:39,880
Speaker 2: What are your initial thoughts?

1353
00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:44,680
Speaker 3: One reason? I all right, so differing viewpoints on here.

1354
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:46,799
Speaker 3: I love the fact that Santandre is a switch hit.

1355
00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:49,160
Speaker 3: I love the fact that he can be someone because

1356
00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:53,000
Speaker 3: sometimes it's Mets lineup felt a tad right handed heavy

1357
00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:54,680
Speaker 3: the time. The team's gonna look a little diferent next year,

1358
00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:55,880
Speaker 3: so I guess that's no big deal. But I just

1359
00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:57,160
Speaker 3: like the fact that he would give a lot of

1360
00:51:57,239 --> 00:51:59,840
Speaker 3: balance in the middle of the lineup. I don't I

1361
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:01,520
Speaker 3: don't super love the fact that he's not a great

1362
00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:03,560
Speaker 3: defensive player. I don't super love the fact he's early

1363
00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:06,759
Speaker 3: thirty years old. I think you can probably I mean,

1364
00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:09,160
Speaker 3: tasker Hernandez I put in the exact same level soots

1365
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:12,320
Speaker 3: On there too, guys who took who are kind of

1366
00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:14,480
Speaker 3: one dimensional players but are really really good at that

1367
00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:17,120
Speaker 3: single dimension. But then if you sign a guy like him,

1368
00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:21,120
Speaker 3: then that's that's becomes that becomes Jesse Winker. That's the

1369
00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:23,040
Speaker 3: same thing, that's the same deal. So I don't think

1370
00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:25,000
Speaker 3: you get multiple of those guys, especially because the Mets

1371
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:27,120
Speaker 3: are still paying starting with my Teddy twenty million dollars

1372
00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:29,840
Speaker 3: next year, So there's not a lot of mobility for

1373
00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:32,200
Speaker 3: this team to get an outfielder that can't play center

1374
00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:34,520
Speaker 3: field defensively. So I just don't see a guy like

1375
00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:37,480
Speaker 3: Sansan dere as likely for the Mets unless they go

1376
00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:41,239
Speaker 3: cheap in center field again with a similar put me

1377
00:52:41,320 --> 00:52:44,160
Speaker 3: in a time machine, Harrison Baylor, Michael A. Taylor to

1378
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:46,560
Speaker 3: be the center fielder again, and then you don't go

1379
00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:50,200
Speaker 3: hardcore for DH and then you get a Santander or

1380
00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:52,440
Speaker 3: a ty Oskar Hernandez, or you bring back Jesse Winker

1381
00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:56,320
Speaker 3: and they go rotationally with Marte and Brandon Eimo, yeah.

1382
00:52:56,200 --> 00:52:58,920
Speaker 1: No, I like Santandre as a player. Obviously, forty home

1383
00:52:58,960 --> 00:52:59,640
Speaker 1: runs is amazing.

1384
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:01,719
Speaker 2: To look a little bit different in city field because

1385
00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:03,880
Speaker 2: Camden Yards does play a little bit smaller, especially for

1386
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:08,000
Speaker 2: left handed hitters now. And I just think the money

1387
00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:11,239
Speaker 2: that he's gonna warrant on the market, it's gonna sound crazy,

1388
00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:14,200
Speaker 2: but like theoretically you could get the same production from

1389
00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:16,239
Speaker 2: like a just half the money. Yeah, form like a

1390
00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:18,879
Speaker 2: Jesse Winker for half the money and not be tied

1391
00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:21,160
Speaker 2: up to a long term contract. And I think that's

1392
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:22,880
Speaker 2: the way you have to think with the guy like Santandre,

1393
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:24,560
Speaker 2: he's gonna want to get paid. He deserves to get paid.

1394
00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:26,560
Speaker 2: Have forty four home runs. I don't really want to

1395
00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:27,400
Speaker 2: be the team to pay him.

1396
00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:30,319
Speaker 3: So here's another guy then that's going to be out

1397
00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:32,200
Speaker 3: there again this year, someone I know you haven't liked

1398
00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:34,920
Speaker 3: in the past. I think i'd like more. Is there

1399
00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:37,400
Speaker 3: any chance the Mets go after Bellinger because he can

1400
00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:38,200
Speaker 3: play center field?

1401
00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:40,239
Speaker 1: Is Bellinger gonna opt out? You think? I don't know

1402
00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:40,960
Speaker 1: if he opts out.

1403
00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:42,600
Speaker 3: Why isn't he Why wouldn't he opt out?

1404
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:44,719
Speaker 1: Cuz I don't know if he's gonna get that money

1405
00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:46,759
Speaker 1: that he got, Like he did have a down year

1406
00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:49,320
Speaker 1: this year, and I think he's getting like twenty six million.

1407
00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:51,640
Speaker 3: But I think this year officially made him who he is,

1408
00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:53,640
Speaker 3: you know what I mean? Yeah, he's he's like a

1409
00:53:53,719 --> 00:53:56,040
Speaker 3: twenty two home or tense steal seven to fifty ops guy.

1410
00:53:56,040 --> 00:53:57,399
Speaker 3: He could play good defensive center field.

1411
00:53:57,640 --> 00:53:59,520
Speaker 1: Now, I did say I wanted Bellinger love. Oh what

1412
00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:00,280
Speaker 1: just happened?

1413
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:03,239
Speaker 2: My camera just died because it's so hot. It's so

1414
00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:06,440
Speaker 2: hot in my apartment. Oh my god, James, take over

1415
00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:07,120
Speaker 2: while I try to.

1416
00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:07,919
Speaker 1: Cool it off.

1417
00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:10,080
Speaker 3: Take over, I just gave you a question. I got

1418
00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:12,320
Speaker 3: to take over. But again, otherwise past that, I have

1419
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:14,279
Speaker 3: gotten a lot of questions here from different people about

1420
00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:18,040
Speaker 3: someone like Alex Bregman. That's the direction. I really can't

1421
00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:19,800
Speaker 3: see the Mets going that. They won't go in that

1422
00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:22,400
Speaker 3: direction if they both miss on so Tho and Pete,

1423
00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:24,680
Speaker 3: I just want to pretend there's no world where that happens.

1424
00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:29,279
Speaker 3: I probably prefer Pete to Bregman just because I don't know.

1425
00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:30,799
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know. Brekman did have a really

1426
00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:32,960
Speaker 3: good year after a really bad start. Breakman still might

1427
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:35,000
Speaker 3: be an awesome baseball player, but Bregman does so much

1428
00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:36,720
Speaker 3: in the Crawford boxes.

1429
00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:38,160
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean.

1430
00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:41,359
Speaker 3: Also, we're not cityfield. Left field's really not that deep either.

1431
00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:42,440
Speaker 3: He can't kind of feast there.

1432
00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:42,920
Speaker 6: This year.

1433
00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:44,960
Speaker 3: He would have had going doing the quick baseball savant

1434
00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:48,160
Speaker 3: measurable right now, while Mark is just completely dying on me.

1435
00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:52,480
Speaker 3: If Alex Bregman hit twenty six runs this year. Mark,

1436
00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:54,239
Speaker 3: you can still hear me right? Oh my god, there

1437
00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:54,799
Speaker 3: are dude.

1438
00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:58,400
Speaker 2: I literally just grabbed an ice pack from the freezer

1439
00:54:58,400 --> 00:54:59,719
Speaker 2: and I just put it on top of the camera

1440
00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:00,960
Speaker 2: and hope it's gonna cool it off.

1441
00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:03,839
Speaker 3: Oh you're back online right now. So Bregman hit twenty

1442
00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:05,319
Speaker 3: six home runs this year. If you would have played

1443
00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:06,920
Speaker 3: every game in the city field, guess how many he

1444
00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:12,520
Speaker 3: would fit eighteen twenty five? Whoa not that city fields

1445
00:55:12,520 --> 00:55:14,680
Speaker 3: a sneaky, shallow left field. I think that gets under

1446
00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:17,200
Speaker 3: discountab little. But maybe that is a pivot for the

1447
00:55:17,239 --> 00:55:19,239
Speaker 3: Mets because he's so good defensively still, I mean, just

1448
00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:21,960
Speaker 3: I just we still need contact over power, and we

1449
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:24,200
Speaker 3: still need power over contact and he's contact over power.

1450
00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:26,120
Speaker 3: I don't know, maybe this is something that we are

1451
00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:28,520
Speaker 3: discounting though it's thirty year old Alex bregnant. Depending how

1452
00:55:28,520 --> 00:55:30,600
Speaker 3: many years he gets, I don't know. It's there's a

1453
00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:32,920
Speaker 3: lot of interesting, little, tiny pivots the Mets can make

1454
00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:34,520
Speaker 3: this offseason. Go.

1455
00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:36,840
Speaker 1: Did you finish up Bellinger? Because again I ran, no,

1456
00:55:36,920 --> 00:55:38,319
Speaker 1: I asked you a question. That's why I just moved

1457
00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:38,880
Speaker 1: out to Bregman.

1458
00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:42,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, so Bellinger is due twenty seven point five million

1459
00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:44,839
Speaker 2: dollars next season from the Cubs, But what's won one

1460
00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:47,120
Speaker 2: year and then he has another player option the next

1461
00:55:47,160 --> 00:55:49,000
Speaker 2: year for twenty five million. I just don't see him

1462
00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:51,320
Speaker 2: getting more than twenty seven and a half million next season.

1463
00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:53,359
Speaker 2: And I don't think anybody's gonna give him a longer

1464
00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:56,160
Speaker 2: term contract that pays him significantly more where he wouldn't

1465
00:55:56,160 --> 00:55:58,160
Speaker 2: take that, So I don't I would love Cody Bellinger

1466
00:55:58,200 --> 00:55:59,239
Speaker 2: to play center field for the Mets.

1467
00:55:59,239 --> 00:55:59,880
Speaker 1: That'd be awesome.

1468
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:01,920
Speaker 2: He's a good center fielder, good left handed bat. I

1469
00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:03,480
Speaker 2: think you'd work really well. But I don't think that's

1470
00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:06,200
Speaker 2: really an option unless he signs in the Cups trade him,

1471
00:56:06,239 --> 00:56:07,840
Speaker 2: which maybe the Mets try that.

1472
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:08,400
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1473
00:56:08,760 --> 00:56:11,120
Speaker 3: I don't know either. I just there's centerfield is the

1474
00:56:11,160 --> 00:56:14,880
Speaker 3: only place that this Mets lineup can obviously obviously obviously improve.

1475
00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:17,840
Speaker 3: So I think there's gonna just be some if that

1476
00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:19,759
Speaker 3: if there's no centerfielder on the market, because that's the

1477
00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:21,840
Speaker 3: other thing. Bellner is the only center fielder on the

1478
00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:24,040
Speaker 3: market at all, Like he's not even really on the

1479
00:56:24,080 --> 00:56:26,279
Speaker 3: market exactly, so he can be the only one on

1480
00:56:26,280 --> 00:56:28,279
Speaker 3: the market. So I don't know, but last year was.

1481
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:30,240
Speaker 3: It's weird because like then you still have Tyler O'Neil

1482
00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:32,560
Speaker 3: Jerkson profar. It is gonna be interesting, confour though, Canna

1483
00:56:32,600 --> 00:56:34,319
Speaker 3: Mets fans are gonna be clamoring for them to come back.

1484
00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:38,080
Speaker 3: It's just if the Mets have such a deep core

1485
00:56:38,200 --> 00:56:41,239
Speaker 3: position players that they can kind of get a guy anywhere, yeah,

1486
00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:43,360
Speaker 3: and just let the other guys filter in around them.

1487
00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:45,399
Speaker 3: But centerfields the only wanted to obviously makes sense because

1488
00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:46,480
Speaker 3: they definitely need one of those.

1489
00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:48,439
Speaker 2: All right, two more, like give us two voicemails because

1490
00:56:48,440 --> 00:56:50,600
Speaker 2: people did send us some stuff, and my camera's dying,

1491
00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:52,400
Speaker 2: so I really just don't know how much longer I have.

1492
00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:55,200
Speaker 3: All Right, we got here's from our guy, Bryant.

1493
00:56:56,400 --> 00:56:56,720
Speaker 8: James.

1494
00:56:57,440 --> 00:56:59,880
Speaker 10: I love you guys, Like I told you before, you

1495
00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:03,440
Speaker 10: are my favorite Mets podcasts and pretty much on to

1496
00:57:04,080 --> 00:57:07,719
Speaker 10: the only Mets podcast I listened to. My question is

1497
00:57:07,719 --> 00:57:13,640
Speaker 10: pretty simple. Do you think that the Mets will pick

1498
00:57:13,719 --> 00:57:16,280
Speaker 10: up any of the guys that are currently on like

1499
00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:18,560
Speaker 10: they are currently free agents right now.

1500
00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:19,880
Speaker 1: With us, like.

1501
00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:23,880
Speaker 10: Of course he might go after they're gonna go after

1502
00:57:24,680 --> 00:57:27,200
Speaker 10: like do you think they're going after like Winker Igles

1503
00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:30,080
Speaker 10: Yas or not anyone else, thank you.

1504
00:57:31,440 --> 00:57:33,440
Speaker 3: I think by far the most likely is always going

1505
00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:35,440
Speaker 3: to be Pete Yes, and I think after him, it's

1506
00:57:35,480 --> 00:57:37,040
Speaker 3: just who will take the least money. And I think

1507
00:57:37,120 --> 00:57:39,280
Speaker 3: maybe I think like standing is another option too. By

1508
00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:41,640
Speaker 3: the way, Yea is also a really good one. But

1509
00:57:41,640 --> 00:57:43,280
Speaker 3: I think it's just I don't think the Mets are

1510
00:57:43,320 --> 00:57:45,000
Speaker 3: going to be as aggressive with their rowd free agents

1511
00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:47,200
Speaker 3: because again, like that, that is why we got into

1512
00:57:47,240 --> 00:57:49,200
Speaker 3: so much trouble before last year, because the Mets had

1513
00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:50,960
Speaker 3: one hundred wins season where they really won nothing at

1514
00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:53,920
Speaker 3: all and they completely fell apart, and yeah, and then

1515
00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:55,840
Speaker 3: Billy Eeppa was like, I want to give every single

1516
00:57:55,880 --> 00:57:57,840
Speaker 3: player the most money they've ever gotten before, just for

1517
00:57:57,920 --> 00:58:00,200
Speaker 3: the vibes, and then it didn't fucking work out. I

1518
00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:02,040
Speaker 3: think most Met fans right now would not want Jeff

1519
00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:03,720
Speaker 3: lean Neills contract. I mean most fans Met fans right

1520
00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:05,680
Speaker 3: now wouldn't even want with you as a contract. I

1521
00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:08,840
Speaker 3: think everything gonna happened that last season was almost disaster.

1522
00:58:08,880 --> 00:58:10,439
Speaker 3: I think the brand new contract was still a victory

1523
00:58:10,440 --> 00:58:12,840
Speaker 3: because I said contract is a big victory. But I

1524
00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:15,280
Speaker 3: just think that we're this We're in a new age guys,

1525
00:58:15,520 --> 00:58:17,120
Speaker 3: we have an adult in the room. We're not giving

1526
00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:18,960
Speaker 3: players money based off feelings anymore.

1527
00:58:19,920 --> 00:58:20,760
Speaker 1: Got another voicemail.

1528
00:58:21,640 --> 00:58:22,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll do one more. I was trying to pick

1529
00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:24,640
Speaker 3: who's gonna be, so I grant to leave some people out.

1530
00:58:24,640 --> 00:58:29,280
Speaker 3: So I feel bad about that. But uh, someone cameras

1531
00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:31,840
Speaker 3: called off a little bit. All right, we got one

1532
00:58:31,880 --> 00:58:34,440
Speaker 3: from Andrew. I hadn't seen Andrew get sentence one in

1533
00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:35,760
Speaker 3: a while. Oh, he said, was one last time. But

1534
00:58:35,800 --> 00:58:37,120
Speaker 3: here here's Andrew Andrew.

1535
00:58:37,560 --> 00:58:40,920
Speaker 8: Okay, it's been two hours since you posted your story,

1536
00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:42,880
Speaker 8: so I figured it's probably too late to get a

1537
00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:45,760
Speaker 8: voice bare in the in the video. But I just

1538
00:58:45,800 --> 00:58:47,400
Speaker 8: also want to let you guys know that this will

1539
00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:48,640
Speaker 8: be the same thing. You know, either way, if it

1540
00:58:48,720 --> 00:58:50,560
Speaker 8: wasn't the video, it wasn't. I just wanted to let

1541
00:58:50,840 --> 00:58:54,080
Speaker 8: you and Mark now that you guys made this season

1542
00:58:54,200 --> 00:58:56,360
Speaker 8: really fun. Uh and it was awesome being able to

1543
00:58:56,400 --> 00:58:58,720
Speaker 8: listen to you guys, interact with you guys here on

1544
00:58:58,840 --> 00:59:01,840
Speaker 8: Instagram and also on Twitter, and just being able to

1545
00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:04,680
Speaker 8: look forward to the videos after every single game. So

1546
00:59:04,760 --> 00:59:07,560
Speaker 8: you guys made the season really enjoyable. So I just

1547
00:59:07,600 --> 00:59:09,080
Speaker 8: want to thank you guys. I feel like you guys

1548
00:59:09,080 --> 00:59:12,080
Speaker 8: don't get enough love because you deserve it, and very

1549
00:59:12,120 --> 00:59:14,720
Speaker 8: excited next season and being able to listen to you guys.

1550
00:59:14,560 --> 00:59:16,400
Speaker 1: More well, thank you for being nice.

1551
00:59:16,800 --> 00:59:18,640
Speaker 3: Thank you Edrick. We did get a lot of nice messages.

1552
00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:21,919
Speaker 3: I f liked a couple two that we got. Just Yeah,

1553
00:59:21,960 --> 00:59:24,280
Speaker 3: people were just people just really really cool about like

1554
00:59:24,400 --> 00:59:25,880
Speaker 3: us this year, Like a lot of people really appreciate

1555
00:59:25,920 --> 00:59:27,440
Speaker 3: the work. Guts some really nice YouTube comments in the

1556
00:59:27,520 --> 00:59:30,240
Speaker 3: last episode. Appreciate you guys for listening, like we just

1557
00:59:30,520 --> 00:59:31,920
Speaker 3: in the podcast just no one listening to it, and

1558
00:59:31,960 --> 00:59:33,919
Speaker 3: then it's just Mark and I hang out, which is again,

1559
00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:35,880
Speaker 3: we'll do that anyway, but like it's I'm happy that

1560
00:59:36,160 --> 00:59:37,920
Speaker 3: we can, Like you guys are all there with us,

1561
00:59:37,960 --> 00:59:39,520
Speaker 3: and we're building this community because I feel like we

1562
00:59:39,560 --> 00:59:41,200
Speaker 3: have a real tight knit group of people now listen

1563
00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:42,040
Speaker 3: to this show. Like the show.

1564
00:59:42,120 --> 00:59:43,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, we were hanging out with you, Bryan at at

1565
00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:46,439
Speaker 2: Murphy's Bar. We met so many of you guys out

1566
00:59:46,560 --> 00:59:48,800
Speaker 2: and we were down to have beers with you guys.

1567
00:59:48,840 --> 00:59:50,520
Speaker 2: We will we're out at these bars and stuff like

1568
00:59:50,600 --> 00:59:52,479
Speaker 2: come up to as sale. Oh, let's watch the Mets together.

1569
00:59:52,520 --> 00:59:52,919
Speaker 1: It's fun.

1570
00:59:53,360 --> 00:59:53,520
Speaker 9: Yeah.

1571
00:59:53,520 --> 00:59:55,960
Speaker 3: Another message from our guy Brandon. He just said, like,

1572
00:59:55,960 --> 00:59:57,080
Speaker 3: don't know if to be fijura, but I want to

1573
00:59:57,080 --> 00:59:58,520
Speaker 3: shout out you two guys with the same work you

1574
00:59:58,560 --> 01:00:00,600
Speaker 3: put in every series, every game. Guys were there even

1575
01:00:00,640 --> 01:00:02,800
Speaker 3: when things were terrible, basically unwatchable. You guys were there

1576
01:00:02,920 --> 01:00:05,680
Speaker 3: documented sports important. Some people read the post at Daily

1577
01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:07,280
Speaker 3: News when when the Mets are on the cover. Some

1578
01:00:07,320 --> 01:00:09,320
Speaker 3: people listen to the radio. I listened to Met stuff.

1579
01:00:09,320 --> 01:00:10,760
Speaker 3: But I'm older. I'm not gonna be telling my kids

1580
01:00:10,800 --> 01:00:12,960
Speaker 3: about Michael Carrobuster on me. I'll be telling them about

1581
01:00:12,960 --> 01:00:14,960
Speaker 3: Mark and James looking forward twenty twenty five. Let's fucking

1582
01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:15,280
Speaker 3: go mess.

1583
01:00:15,320 --> 01:00:15,760
Speaker 1: That's awesome.

1584
01:00:15,840 --> 01:00:18,720
Speaker 3: Nice message, Yeah, yeah, yeah, I got a lot of

1585
01:00:18,760 --> 01:00:21,919
Speaker 3: nice ones. I'll show them to you on the Instagram play.

1586
01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:23,240
Speaker 3: They also got a good one, someone asked me. I

1587
01:00:23,280 --> 01:00:24,800
Speaker 3: want to get their name right now. They're like the

1588
01:00:24,880 --> 01:00:27,120
Speaker 3: James hold true to his hunger strike at City Field

1589
01:00:27,120 --> 01:00:28,640
Speaker 3: and spend no dollars on con sessions. That was from

1590
01:00:28,680 --> 01:00:31,200
Speaker 3: Scodar and I did, and Mark is my proof. I

1591
01:00:31,240 --> 01:00:33,480
Speaker 3: didn't spend one dollar concessions to the City Field this year.

1592
01:00:33,560 --> 01:00:35,960
Speaker 3: You know what, I might never again. I got through

1593
01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:37,400
Speaker 3: the whole year and now I think I'm just done

1594
01:00:37,400 --> 01:00:38,800
Speaker 3: with I mean, the prices are only going to get

1595
01:00:38,840 --> 01:00:42,240
Speaker 3: more expensive, so and then I gotta drink the beer.

1596
01:00:42,320 --> 01:00:43,800
Speaker 3: That's what I have to do. There's no choice there.

1597
01:00:43,840 --> 01:00:46,000
Speaker 3: But in terms of food, I might never eat food.

1598
01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:47,480
Speaker 3: And the Mets came over again it's pretty good.

1599
01:00:47,480 --> 01:00:49,880
Speaker 2: I mean, listen you the way the Chianos do it,

1600
01:00:50,080 --> 01:00:53,640
Speaker 2: they do it right, So if I had the preparation skills,

1601
01:00:53,840 --> 01:00:54,880
Speaker 2: I consider it as well.

1602
01:00:55,920 --> 01:00:58,000
Speaker 3: All right, but you want to do one more voicemail

1603
01:00:58,040 --> 01:00:59,680
Speaker 3: as you got the thing on your camera.

1604
01:00:59,560 --> 01:01:01,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, give us one more. I think I do.

1605
01:01:01,200 --> 01:01:03,600
Speaker 2: Think I'm okay because I kind of got the fake

1606
01:01:03,680 --> 01:01:05,840
Speaker 2: ac crankin right now and it has cooled off the

1607
01:01:05,880 --> 01:01:06,760
Speaker 2: apartment a little bit.

1608
01:01:07,640 --> 01:01:11,120
Speaker 1: But again time is time is limited. All right.

1609
01:01:11,120 --> 01:01:13,000
Speaker 3: We have a seven second one from THEO. Theo's love

1610
01:01:13,040 --> 01:01:13,680
Speaker 3: some heat before, so.

1611
01:01:13,720 --> 01:01:18,280
Speaker 1: Let's go, Yo boys. Great series.

1612
01:01:18,480 --> 01:01:19,240
Speaker 3: I have one question.

1613
01:01:19,640 --> 01:01:21,320
Speaker 1: How many goals should I score the soccer game?

1614
01:01:22,080 --> 01:01:24,080
Speaker 2: How many goals should you score in the soccer game?

1615
01:01:24,320 --> 01:01:28,200
Speaker 2: As many as you can four do the left foot,

1616
01:01:28,280 --> 01:01:30,320
Speaker 2: right foot, header and penalty kick.

1617
01:01:30,760 --> 01:01:32,600
Speaker 3: There you go, lef foot, right foot and heather penalty kick.

1618
01:01:32,640 --> 01:01:34,520
Speaker 3: So so if you can get some of your guys voicemails.

1619
01:01:34,560 --> 01:01:36,080
Speaker 3: Of course we have one more because we have to

1620
01:01:36,240 --> 01:01:38,360
Speaker 3: just end it the way the way we always end it.

1621
01:01:39,200 --> 01:01:41,360
Speaker 3: Frankie Pepper is gonna do it, guys, guy to hear

1622
01:01:41,400 --> 01:01:43,520
Speaker 3: what he has to say. Oh wait, then we answered question.

1623
01:01:43,520 --> 01:01:45,160
Speaker 1: We answer this question right, But let's see what he's got.

1624
01:01:45,320 --> 01:01:48,360
Speaker 1: I'll edit out anything that's not necessary.

1625
01:01:49,640 --> 01:01:52,440
Speaker 5: I figured I could just call in and met my

1626
01:01:52,600 --> 01:01:55,560
Speaker 5: question on here instead of sending it over Twitter, because

1627
01:01:55,920 --> 01:01:59,200
Speaker 5: that website continues to get more like a hell each

1628
01:01:59,240 --> 01:01:59,720
Speaker 5: and every day.

1629
01:02:00,640 --> 01:02:11,120
Speaker 11: Anyway, I'm curious for like what one one bold prediction,

1630
01:02:11,320 --> 01:02:14,600
Speaker 11: but not that bold, like a little bit bold. Just

1631
01:02:14,760 --> 01:02:19,120
Speaker 11: I want one prediction for something that's not a big prediction,

1632
01:02:21,280 --> 01:02:24,040
Speaker 11: like outside of a major free agent, who are we

1633
01:02:24,160 --> 01:02:26,840
Speaker 11: going to sign or you know, who's gonna have a

1634
01:02:26,920 --> 01:02:28,280
Speaker 11: breakout year, or who's.

1635
01:02:28,080 --> 01:02:30,520
Speaker 1: Going to become like a new rat, you know what?

1636
01:02:30,840 --> 01:02:34,120
Speaker 5: For the Mets, I'm just interested in here and like

1637
01:02:34,160 --> 01:02:39,000
Speaker 5: a little little factoid about where you think something may

1638
01:02:39,160 --> 01:02:41,520
Speaker 5: wind up next year. It might not be an earthshake,

1639
01:02:41,680 --> 01:02:45,760
Speaker 5: but interesting. Nonetheless, I appreciate you boys as always and

1640
01:02:45,880 --> 01:02:46,600
Speaker 5: less gomets.

1641
01:02:47,280 --> 01:02:49,520
Speaker 2: I know we technically answered it, but he did give

1642
01:02:49,560 --> 01:02:51,480
Speaker 2: us a little bit of a different question because we said,

1643
01:02:51,560 --> 01:02:53,560
Speaker 2: I said, Garrick Crochet and you said, what you we're

1644
01:02:53,560 --> 01:02:53,960
Speaker 2: gonna trade?

1645
01:02:55,480 --> 01:02:58,000
Speaker 1: So what's what's a little tamer one maybe that you've.

1646
01:02:57,880 --> 01:03:04,200
Speaker 3: Got tamer one of about the Mets. M I don't know.

1647
01:03:04,400 --> 01:03:06,880
Speaker 2: Francisco Odor makes the All Star Game finally, is that

1648
01:03:07,120 --> 01:03:10,120
Speaker 2: maybe he finally gets recognition he deserves.

1649
01:03:10,880 --> 01:03:12,600
Speaker 3: I think my tamer one could be that the Mets

1650
01:03:12,680 --> 01:03:15,240
Speaker 3: might entertain the second base market between glabor Tours and

1651
01:03:15,240 --> 01:03:15,800
Speaker 3: Brandon Laue.

1652
01:03:16,360 --> 01:03:18,919
Speaker 1: Brandon lau Get met him, Glaber Torres.

1653
01:03:20,080 --> 01:03:21,600
Speaker 3: Got you gotta hold those takes tru because for the

1654
01:03:21,680 --> 01:03:24,040
Speaker 3: Yankee bias, but I think they're both gootball players. I

1655
01:03:24,120 --> 01:03:25,720
Speaker 3: think that while the Mets have a lot of options

1656
01:03:25,760 --> 01:03:28,480
Speaker 3: in the second base, there's not really an obvious difference

1657
01:03:28,520 --> 01:03:30,720
Speaker 3: making one. So I think there's a chance that they

1658
01:03:30,880 --> 01:03:32,360
Speaker 3: if they can sign one of those guys to a

1659
01:03:32,440 --> 01:03:34,040
Speaker 3: short bridge deal, that it happens.

1660
01:03:34,200 --> 01:03:37,320
Speaker 1: Dude, what was glabor Tours ops plus this year?

1661
01:03:37,720 --> 01:03:38,600
Speaker 3: It was terrible?

1662
01:03:38,640 --> 01:03:41,520
Speaker 1: Like eighty four one oh one? What was Jeff McNeil's

1663
01:03:42,400 --> 01:03:43,840
Speaker 1: one o three ninety seven?

1664
01:03:43,960 --> 01:03:44,000
Speaker 11: Like?

1665
01:03:44,400 --> 01:03:45,800
Speaker 1: Is there a difference between me? Want to give them

1666
01:03:45,800 --> 01:03:47,200
Speaker 1: twenty million dollars that's what I'm saying.

1667
01:03:48,120 --> 01:03:50,240
Speaker 3: I guess should they both did struggle, they both got hot,

1668
01:03:50,280 --> 01:03:51,800
Speaker 3: so yeah, maybe it's the same. But I just don't

1669
01:03:51,800 --> 01:03:54,320
Speaker 3: think there's I think they're going to try and improve

1670
01:03:54,360 --> 01:03:55,880
Speaker 3: this roster in ways that we might not be able

1671
01:03:55,880 --> 01:03:57,600
Speaker 3: to see obviously. Yet I think that's when that could

1672
01:03:57,640 --> 01:03:58,040
Speaker 3: make sense.

1673
01:03:58,960 --> 01:04:00,760
Speaker 2: Don't get me glabor, I'll be upset about that one,

1674
01:04:00,800 --> 01:04:03,480
Speaker 2: all right. Last thing, got to read this two reviews

1675
01:04:03,520 --> 01:04:05,520
Speaker 2: that we've got. There have a lot of reviews. You

1676
01:04:05,560 --> 01:04:07,560
Speaker 2: haven't read them in a month. I was strong as

1677
01:04:07,560 --> 01:04:07,880
Speaker 2: a bunch.

1678
01:04:08,200 --> 01:04:08,800
Speaker 1: I guess there is.

1679
01:04:09,160 --> 01:04:10,840
Speaker 2: Well, we'll read two of them right now because this

1680
01:04:10,960 --> 01:04:14,000
Speaker 2: is a super long episode. This one is a negative

1681
01:04:14,040 --> 01:04:17,600
Speaker 2: one and it's hilarious. Shout out Reginald Fairfield a one

1682
01:04:17,680 --> 01:04:22,200
Speaker 2: star review. Everything right, yeah, everything but the hosts. It's

1683
01:04:22,280 --> 01:04:24,840
Speaker 2: hard to find a podcast that records consistently, and this

1684
01:04:25,000 --> 01:04:27,880
Speaker 2: one does. Unfortunately, it's even harder to like these hosts.

1685
01:04:28,160 --> 01:04:30,880
Speaker 2: Pretty easy to see why the organization cut ties. So

1686
01:04:30,920 --> 01:04:33,480
Speaker 2: it's just someone who's listened for a while and just

1687
01:04:33,600 --> 01:04:36,720
Speaker 2: was holding onto this. It feels like that could be

1688
01:04:36,760 --> 01:04:39,280
Speaker 2: a uh maybe a little sneaky name there.

1689
01:04:39,800 --> 01:04:41,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, it definitely could be. But this is also, Uh,

1690
01:04:41,520 --> 01:04:43,080
Speaker 3: I don't know like if you guys are listening to us,

1691
01:04:43,280 --> 01:04:45,600
Speaker 3: thank you you like us. I understand that this is

1692
01:04:45,680 --> 01:04:47,720
Speaker 3: the classics, that the opposite of the missus Seinfeld. How

1693
01:04:47,720 --> 01:04:49,800
Speaker 3: can anybody not like you? I understand how people cannot

1694
01:04:49,880 --> 01:04:51,920
Speaker 3: like us. Yes, we've we've definitely gotten some flak. For

1695
01:04:52,000 --> 01:04:54,000
Speaker 3: some people. We're a little bit too we were a

1696
01:04:54,040 --> 01:04:55,560
Speaker 3: little too exciting. We've heard we like to have a

1697
01:04:55,600 --> 01:04:59,280
Speaker 3: little too much fun. I like that to bet say

1698
01:04:59,320 --> 01:05:00,880
Speaker 3: some curse w it's people hate this for that one.

1699
01:05:00,960 --> 01:05:02,200
Speaker 3: But you know what, if you guys didn't hear you

1700
01:05:02,320 --> 01:05:03,320
Speaker 3: like that, we appreciate you for that.

1701
01:05:03,720 --> 01:05:06,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you do you want to read one more review?

1702
01:05:06,520 --> 01:05:09,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll read one more review. Uh, let's go a couple,

1703
01:05:09,840 --> 01:05:12,200
Speaker 3: a couple of long ones here. I'll do this one

1704
01:05:12,280 --> 01:05:14,160
Speaker 3: right here. From Mets fan Trev This was right when

1705
01:05:14,200 --> 01:05:16,480
Speaker 3: the playoffs were beginning. This is actually so long. This

1706
01:05:16,680 --> 01:05:20,760
Speaker 3: is this is this three paragraphs, four paragraphs. Been listening

1707
01:05:20,760 --> 01:05:23,200
Speaker 3: to Metstuff podcasts. The first episode twenty twenty one simply

1708
01:05:23,240 --> 01:05:25,080
Speaker 3: the best podcast for two guys no ball know how

1709
01:05:25,080 --> 01:05:28,680
Speaker 3: to dissect stats, intererpid data. Plus they happened to cover

1710
01:05:28,760 --> 01:05:30,480
Speaker 3: my favorite team as Mets fans, I was raised North

1711
01:05:30,480 --> 01:05:32,640
Speaker 3: Carolina and now living in Atlanta. You guys can boo.

1712
01:05:33,000 --> 01:05:34,960
Speaker 3: I feel so validated to be a Mets fan. On Monday,

1713
01:05:35,000 --> 01:05:36,800
Speaker 3: I was the double Heather. Of course, when the final

1714
01:05:36,880 --> 01:05:39,120
Speaker 3: that was made Tru's Park. That feeling that poured over

1715
01:05:39,200 --> 01:05:40,600
Speaker 3: me is I could be summed up as finally as

1716
01:05:40,640 --> 01:05:43,120
Speaker 3: looked over all my coworkers' faces of shock. Finally we

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Speaker 3: were not the ones with the crush dreams. Finally we

1718
01:05:45,320 --> 01:05:48,440
Speaker 3: were the dream crushers. Hell yeah, then last night happened.

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01:05:48,480 --> 01:05:50,120
Speaker 3: I pee gave me even more hope. Ironic at a

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01:05:50,120 --> 01:05:52,760
Speaker 3: different universe than Met Peter, Lonzo gets out and last

1721
01:05:52,800 --> 01:05:54,080
Speaker 3: that bad as a Met and leaves the team in

1722
01:05:54,120 --> 01:05:56,200
Speaker 3: classic Mets fashion. But in this universe, he had a

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01:05:56,240 --> 01:05:58,000
Speaker 3: signature moment that could earn him a contract to make

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01:05:58,080 --> 01:05:59,600
Speaker 3: him a Met for life. How can you not be

1725
01:05:59,640 --> 01:06:02,040
Speaker 3: your man about baseball? This team is different. We fell

1726
01:06:02,080 --> 01:06:03,680
Speaker 3: flat in our face and we hit home runs. We

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01:06:03,800 --> 01:06:05,920
Speaker 3: change our history is written. Next time the Mets are

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01:06:05,960 --> 01:06:07,560
Speaker 3: in town against the Braves, Let's make sure the flood

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01:06:07,560 --> 01:06:09,360
Speaker 3: the battery of Mets fan boys and maybe we can

1730
01:06:09,400 --> 01:06:12,680
Speaker 3: meet up. Let's go Mads. Remember there's a Jose Buudo podcast.

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01:06:12,720 --> 01:06:14,720
Speaker 3: We need in next yeares he wasn't that good? Next

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Speaker 3: YEARI the next year, we definitely gon need in next year.

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Speaker 1: That was well said.

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01:06:17,600 --> 01:06:19,959
Speaker 2: I like that like a classic mess fashion Petere lonzso

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01:06:19,960 --> 01:06:21,640
Speaker 2: would have struck out or hit into a double play

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01:06:21,680 --> 01:06:23,560
Speaker 2: there and the end of his met's career. But things

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01:06:23,600 --> 01:06:25,680
Speaker 2: were different this year, and that's truly what made it

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01:06:25,760 --> 01:06:27,800
Speaker 2: a special season. Guys, thank you so much for coming

1739
01:06:27,880 --> 01:06:29,440
Speaker 2: and hanging out for the first episode of the off

1740
01:06:29,520 --> 01:06:31,720
Speaker 2: season of The Mess Up Podcast. Make sure you follow

1741
01:06:31,800 --> 01:06:34,080
Speaker 2: us on all our social media at mets up on Twitter, Instagram,

1742
01:06:34,120 --> 01:06:36,760
Speaker 2: at TikTok. Subscribe to the mess Up Podcast YouTube channel.

1743
01:06:36,760 --> 01:06:39,520
Speaker 1: We got some new graphics woo new setup for you guys. Hey,

1744
01:06:39,600 --> 01:06:40,480
Speaker 1: thumbnails do everything.

1745
01:06:40,480 --> 01:06:42,680
Speaker 2: We're trying some stuff out this offseason, so really do

1746
01:06:42,760 --> 01:06:46,560
Speaker 2: appreciate all the support and if you're listening Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google,

1747
01:06:46,680 --> 01:06:48,800
Speaker 2: drop us a rating, drops a review, download and subscribe.

1748
01:06:48,920 --> 01:06:49,760
Speaker 1: You can follow James on.

1749
01:06:49,760 --> 01:06:52,240
Speaker 3: Twitter app James Underscore Siana.

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Speaker 2: I'm Draftnickmark with a C. Thank you for listening, Thank

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01:06:54,520 --> 01:06:56,920
Speaker 2: you for watching. We will catch you next week for

1752
01:06:57,040 --> 01:06:59,040
Speaker 2: another episode of the mess Up Podcast. I don't know

1753
01:06:59,040 --> 01:07:00,640
Speaker 2: what we're gonna talk about, but we'll have something, so

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01:07:00,960 --> 01:07:01,400
Speaker 2: beace out

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Speaker 3: Be out, See you guys next time.