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Speaker 1: I should be rewarded for that. So part one of

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Speaker 1: the philosophy is the value of your wins should never

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Speaker 1: depreciate over the course of a season. They are what

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Speaker 1: they are, define them the moment you play the game,

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Speaker 1: and that's it. However, as David said, I forgot to

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Speaker 1: give you the second half of this philosophy. I do

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Speaker 1: believe in some instances it is okay to add value

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Speaker 1: to wins or maybe even close losses, but add value

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Speaker 1: to wins later in the season. So let's take that

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Speaker 1: entire scenario. Let's reverse it a little bit. Let's say

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Speaker 1: Auburn plays unranked Arkansas. Let's say they're ranked like twenty

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Speaker 1: eight or something like that. So they're unranked and Auburn

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Speaker 1: beats Arkansas. Oh, I don't know, twenty eight to seventeen.

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Speaker 1: At the time, not only would it not be overly celebrated,

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Speaker 1: you may even look at it and say, ooh man,

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Speaker 1: Auburn struggled with an inferior, unranked Arkansas team. Okay, and

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Speaker 1: so you define it however you feel like defining it

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Speaker 1: that day. But then let's say we look up six

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Speaker 1: weeks later and Arkansas's finished the season ten and two

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Speaker 1: and they barely miss out on going to Atlanta because

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Speaker 1: Auburn goes there. Well, then, all of a sudden, guess what, Then,

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, I have no problem looking at

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Speaker 1: that game and saying, wait a second, we need to

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Speaker 1: add a little value to that, because I don't think

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Speaker 1: there's any risk in doing that. There is a ton

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Speaker 1: of risk in depreciating the value of wins, there is

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Speaker 1: no risk in enhancing the value of wins. So I

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Speaker 1: don't have a problem with that, David, I do fully agree.

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Speaker 1: If we're going to change the value of a win

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Speaker 1: you have on your schedule, the only change should be

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Speaker 1: increasing the value of that win. But I'll tell you

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Speaker 1: what I don't have time to listen to. I can't

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Speaker 1: stand it. You want to see me crow hop and

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Speaker 1: throw a remote into the pool out here in my

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Speaker 1: apartment complex. Have me turn on a TV or turn

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Speaker 1: on a show and listen to someone say that a

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Speaker 1: team was overrated because you know who that someone's going

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Speaker 1: to be. It's going to be someone who has a

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Speaker 1: vote in the a people. You know what that means.

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Speaker 1: That means this person was both simultaneously responsible for the

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Speaker 1: team's rating, and then they get to go on TV

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Speaker 1: and say that the team was overrated. Well, whose fault

468
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Speaker 1: is that Arkansas doesn't rank themselves? Guys that players don't

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Speaker 1: get handed pamphlets on Monday mornings, say Sam Pittman says, here,

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Speaker 1: guys filled us out, hand it back to him, and

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Speaker 1: we got to decide where we're going to rank ourselves.

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Speaker 1: That's not the way rankings happen. Sports writers do that.

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Speaker 1: People who sit in press boxes for a living, they

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Speaker 1: do that, and in one of the very heights of

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Speaker 1: hypocrisy in sports media, the crowd that gets to rank

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Speaker 1: you also gets to bemoan you for being overrated if

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Speaker 1: you don't live up to their perception of what you

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Speaker 1: were supposed to be. There's never a point where anyone

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Speaker 1: in that press box looks and says, boy, that was

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Speaker 1: pretty stupid on my part. Boy, I shouldn't have ranked

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Speaker 1: them that high. It's not Arkansas's fault, it's my fault. No,

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Speaker 1: there's none of that there's none of that because you

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Speaker 1: know there's really little risk of you being called out.

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Speaker 1: You're the one who writes the columns, not other people

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Speaker 1: about you. And so instead of taking responsibility and admitting

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Speaker 1: you don't really know what you're doing, let's just say

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Speaker 1: they were overrated instead that I don't have time for all. Right,

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Speaker 1: let me fan myself here a little bit, sweatings like

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Speaker 1: fifty seven degrees outside. Paul's got an extremely good question.

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Speaker 1: It's one that is a deep dive. It is also

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Speaker 1: one that Paul contends and I agree, would totally solve

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Speaker 1: the problem of late season irrelevance for teams. How do

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Speaker 1: you keep even the bad teams relevant? How do you

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Speaker 1: make someone in Myrtle Beach, South Carolina care about watching

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Speaker 1: one and ten Kansas towards the end of the year. Well,

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Speaker 1: Paul will tell you exactly how. Right after this, so

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Speaker 1: Paul lives in England, he sent a link the email.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to paraphrase it. I'm going to try and

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Speaker 1: get the most important parts in here. Paul says, I

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Speaker 1: know it would never happen, but hypothetically, what would your

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Speaker 1: thoughts be on an English Premier League style relegation? Format. Now,

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Speaker 1: what is relegation? You guys have heard of this before. Essentially,

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Speaker 1: it's the way that English Premier League soccer figured a

504
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Speaker 1: way to make every game count. So what that does

505
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Speaker 1: is it punishes you for being bad. And what they

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Speaker 1: do is they have different levels. We would call them conference,

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Speaker 1: we would call them maybe Power five and G five.

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Speaker 1: But they take the worst teams in the top level

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Speaker 1: and they bump them out. They say go down there,

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Speaker 1: go to the minor leagues essentially, and they take the

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Speaker 1: best teams from the second tier and they say come

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Speaker 1: on up, you get rewarded. Now, Paul continues the fan

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Speaker 1: and media interest here, and the team pressure of the

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Speaker 1: matches increases as relegation looms every year, teams become desperate

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Speaker 1: to win to avoid dropping out of the league. Aside

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Speaker 1: from the title games, the game's affecting relegation from the

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Speaker 1: top league and promotion to the top league of three

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Speaker 1: teams from the league below. It generates huge interest and attention.

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Speaker 1: Imagine the bottom team in the Big twelve is relegated

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Speaker 1: to the AAC every season, and the best team in

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Speaker 1: the AAC is promoted to take their place. Many games

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Speaker 1: each season would become hugely important. Thanks for the show, Paul, Paul,

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Speaker 1: I would drool at this concept. I'm drooling right now.

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Speaker 1: There's drool all over the place. You're making me drool

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Speaker 1: about the concept. You're right for a million reasons. There's

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Speaker 1: a ninety nine point nine percent chance this could never happen.

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Speaker 1: That doesn't mean we can't dream. Can you imagine how

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Speaker 1: many problems this would solve? Number one, there's the problem

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Speaker 1: out there of indifference in an athletic department towards a

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Speaker 1: fan base, especially if they know they can take you

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Speaker 1: for granted, for better or for worse. There is no

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Speaker 1: better here, so just for worse. There are athletic departments,

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Speaker 1: athletic directors and programs out there who think to themselves,

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Speaker 1: you know what, the fans are going to be there

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Speaker 1: either way. There's really not a lot of pressure on us. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we'd rather win, but nothing's really on the line. If

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Speaker 1: we don't win. We're still meeting our bottom line. Budget's

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Speaker 1: still good. Fans are still showing up, The seals are

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Speaker 1: still out there. Oh oo oh, they're still clapping, because

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Speaker 1: trust me, that's about the degree to which they think

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Speaker 1: of some of you, And so they really don't care.

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Speaker 1: They take you for granted. Well, now you can't afford

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Speaker 1: to do that anymore, because now what really matters to

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Speaker 1: you the money. It dries up. It dries up because

545
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Speaker 1: you get bumped, and when you get bumped, you don't

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Speaker 1: get to share in the conference revenue anymore. And you

547
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Speaker 1: go down and you take whatever meat's left on the

548
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Speaker 1: bone in the AAC. Now that's real pressure. Now they

549
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Speaker 1: can't afford to take anything for granted anymore. And now

550
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Speaker 1: they're floating around there at the bottom of the league.

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Speaker 1: And you're right, Paul, this is a way to make

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Speaker 1: Let's just take Kansas because they've been terrible there forever,

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Speaker 1: it would be Kansas versus I don't know, in any

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Speaker 1: given year, Like, let's take Baylor. Baylor's not bad right now,

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Speaker 1: but let's just pretend for a second Baylor was bad

556
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Speaker 1: and you got a couple of two and eight teams

557
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Speaker 1: playing each other in the latter portion of the season.

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Speaker 1: That's a really, really important game. And think about how

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Speaker 1: much it would erode away at the regionality of the sport,

560
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Speaker 1: because then all of a sudden, someone in Orlando, Florida,

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Speaker 1: a UCF fan, would care greatly about what's happening in

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Speaker 1: Kansas because they see a spot they want and they're

563
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Speaker 1: pulling for not only their team, but they're watching the

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Speaker 1: Big twelve and they're going to see, huh, whose spot

565
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Speaker 1: are we about to take? Who's going to be without

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Speaker 1: a chair when the music turns off? And then all

567
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Speaker 1: the while you're trying to take care of your business.

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Speaker 1: Here's another thing it would do. It would rid me

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Speaker 1: of having to talk about the G five and the

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Speaker 1: college football Playoff at the end of every season, because

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Speaker 1: here would be the new goal. The new goal would

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Speaker 1: not be to get the best G five team in

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Speaker 1: the playoff. The new goal would be the best G

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Speaker 1: five team is coming to the P five, at which

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Speaker 1: point they can prove themselves playing a relevant enough schedule

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Speaker 1: to qualify them for the playoff conversation later in the year.

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Speaker 1: So at that point, if Houston or Central Florida, or

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Speaker 1: if someone elevated to the Big twelve, and then the

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Speaker 1: next year or two years or three years later they

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Speaker 1: went through a Big twelve schedule and finished with one

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Speaker 1: loss and they were conference champion and whatnot, I'd have

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Speaker 1: no problem putting them in the playoff. It's just here's

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Speaker 1: what I've seen in the past. I've seen TCU be

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Speaker 1: one of those teams and then they join a Power

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Speaker 1: five conference and they they haven't really sniffed the playoff.

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Speaker 1: Aside from once Utah Dido used to be one of

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Speaker 1: those teams they joined the PAC twelve. You don't really

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Speaker 1: hear about Utah on the playoff conversation as much, do you, no,

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Speaker 1: Because a funny thing happens when you have to play

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Speaker 1: Power five level competition every week, even if the record

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Speaker 1: is not good. There's a difference in playing a bunch

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Speaker 1: of Colorado's and Oregon States. And these may not be

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Speaker 1: teams that jump off the page to you, but the

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Speaker 1: level of athlete is just a little bit better on average,

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Speaker 1: week over week than it is in the AAC, and

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Speaker 1: so over the course of a season, there are a

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Speaker 1: few more collisions, you see a few better coaching staffs

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Speaker 1: because those teams can afford to pay more, and in

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Speaker 1: the aggregate, you may end up losing a game or

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Speaker 1: two that you would have edged by and gotten a

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Speaker 1: win in if you were in lower level competition. It's

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Speaker 1: just the way it works. So this would be so

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Speaker 1: great because this would give a pathway I wouldn't have

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Speaker 1: to listen to a bunch of people saying, well, the

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Speaker 1: G five has no shot, they would then the G

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Speaker 1: five should have a shot. Their shot should be give

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Speaker 1: them an opportunity to play a relevant enough schedule, and

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Speaker 1: that would come if they played a Power five conference schedule.

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Speaker 1: That would be a great thing. So, yes, man, I

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Speaker 1: wish it could happen, Paul, I certainly wish it could happen.

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Speaker 1: I am like you and thinking it's unlikely that it

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Speaker 1: would happen for again, a million reasons, Man, it would

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Speaker 1: be great. Josh is up next. Josh says it was

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Speaker 1: more a realization. I think he was up late on

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Speaker 1: the internet one night doing some research and he says,

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Speaker 1: hold up, Texas hasn't had a first round draft pick

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Speaker 1: in six years. Question mark, exclamation mark. So, firstly, have

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Speaker 1: I been living on the moon and I just missed

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Speaker 1: the full conversation about this or is it just one

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Speaker 1: of the most underspoken facts about college football? Secondly, is

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Speaker 1: anything more damaging to Texas recruiting than that? That's unforgivable

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Speaker 1: for the flagship school in the state of Texas to

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Speaker 1: not have one first round player in six years. Yeah, Josh,

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Speaker 1: it's kind of the dead horse thing. People have beat

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Speaker 1: on it and beat on it and beat on it,

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Speaker 1: but it is an excuse me, and you're right, it's

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Speaker 1: been terrible. It's a torpedo to the side or like

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Speaker 1: six torpedoes to the side of Texas recruiting, so much

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Speaker 1: so that this past cycle the Brockermeyer twins, who were

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Speaker 1: Texas legacies no less living in the Fort Worth of

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Speaker 1: Dallas area somewhere like that. A couple of well a

632
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Speaker 1: five star tackle and a four star center whose dad

633
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Speaker 1: played at Texas. Looking for any reason to go to Texas,

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Speaker 1: they left the state. They went to Alabama. Those are

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Speaker 1: the kids you're supposed to be able to just take

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Speaker 1: for granted. You're supposed to be able to write their

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Speaker 1: names in pencil three years away from them even graduating

638
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Speaker 1: high school. It's just going to be assumed dad played

639
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Speaker 1: at Texas. They're Texas legacies. They probably grew up with

640
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:33,320
Speaker 1: Longhorn paraphernalia all over the place and the bumper stickers

641
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:37,640
Speaker 1: on the cars, etc. And then they go to Alabama

642
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:40,880
Speaker 1: and the only reason is because of development. They just

643
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:44,080
Speaker 1: can't trust Texas to develop them. It's crazy, but it's true.

644
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:46,880
Speaker 1: So yeah, josh I look at that, and I say, well,

645
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:48,920
Speaker 1: that means that the twenty four to seven sports team

646
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:52,200
Speaker 1: talent composite isn't the end all be all, like Texas

647
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:55,120
Speaker 1: recruited okay under Tom Herman. But the problem is the

648
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:58,320
Speaker 1: potential of the player. If it wasn't already realized coming

649
00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 1: out of high school, it certainly wasn't going to get

650
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:02,800
Speaker 1: developed much on campus in Austin. That's one of the

651
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 1: big things sarcas to change. They're going to be able

652
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:07,400
Speaker 1: to recruit okay there, you've got to try not to

653
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 1: recruit well at Texas. How are you going to develop?

654
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:11,640
Speaker 1: That's the big question that's going to be the name

655
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:12,880
Speaker 1: of the game there. How are you going to develop?

656
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:16,320
Speaker 1: Clinton says, My question has to do with your comment

657
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 1: that a G five team will never make the playoff

658
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:21,280
Speaker 1: because of the rigors of scheduling. Do you think there's

659
00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:24,400
Speaker 1: a possibility, though, for a G five team to schedule

660
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 1: elite out of conference matchups and make the playoff? Yes,

661
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:30,200
Speaker 1: I do. It's got to be an AAC team, I think,

662
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:33,240
Speaker 1: And then it's got to be a situation like Houston,

663
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:35,440
Speaker 1: and I think twenty sixteen or something like that, they

664
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:39,040
Speaker 1: scheduled Oklahoma and beat them early in the season. And

665
00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 1: so here's what has to happen. Clinton. I think that

666
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:44,720
Speaker 1: the profile of the AAC right now, since it's never

667
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:48,440
Speaker 1: been higher, if you were to schedule two elite out

668
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:53,600
Speaker 1: of conference matchups. Let's say you scheduled Oklahoma and Miami

669
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 1: or something like that, and you beat both those teams

670
00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:59,240
Speaker 1: and you went undefeated against your conference schedule, I think

671
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:02,400
Speaker 1: that team would make playoff. I know everyone says it's impossible.

672
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 1: I don't think it's impossible, and for all I know,

673
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 1: I would support the G five team. I'd have to

674
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 1: see how the season played out. A lot of it

675
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 1: would be up to how good their conference schedule ended

676
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 1: up being. Unfortunately for them, even though I just told

677
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:18,720
Speaker 1: you earlier in this podcast, I don't believe in depreciating

678
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:21,480
Speaker 1: the value of wins, I'm not on the playoff committee.

679
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 1: So unfortunately for them, they would probably need Oklahoma and

680
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 1: Miami to keep winning after they beat them, which doesn't

681
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,240
Speaker 1: always occur. But yeah, I think if all those factors

682
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:31,960
Speaker 1: came into play, Yeah, I do think the G five

683
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 1: would make the playoff. All right, So let's wrap it up.

684
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:35,680
Speaker 1: I was told you I was gonna lay out the

685
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:38,120
Speaker 1: story for you about last week. So here's what happened.

686
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 1: It was a big dynamic system that's set up over

687
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:45,160
Speaker 1: what is called Dixie Alley, which is essentially Mississippi, Alabama,

688
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 1: western Tennessee. It is a very hot spot this time

689
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:51,960
Speaker 1: of year. It is the most beautiful violent area on

690
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:54,840
Speaker 1: the face of this earth is the southeast during springtime.

691
00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 1: It like right now I'm recording, it is bright sunshine outside.

692
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:01,680
Speaker 1: I could open the windows for about the next week

693
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 1: and it wouldn't get cold or hot in here. Birds

694
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 1: are chirping, the air is still not too humid where

695
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 1: it feels great, but eventually it'll get terrible around here again.

696
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:14,160
Speaker 1: So it's just storm season. It's tornado season here if

697
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:17,560
Speaker 1: there is a tornado season, which there's not. Kids. So

698
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:20,680
Speaker 1: I'm on a storm facing team for those of you unfamiliar,

699
00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 1: have been for about a decade and a half now,

700
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:25,840
Speaker 1: and so we this time of year always on guard.

701
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:29,920
Speaker 1: Used to work in conjunction with WLTZ down in Columbus,

702
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 1: where a lot of people on said team were also employed.

703
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:37,920
Speaker 1: Now we just work independent. So we isolated an area

704
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 1: several days out. National Weather Service Storms Prediction Center did

705
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:44,560
Speaker 1: a great job they're forecasts verified, and so we headed

706
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:49,960
Speaker 1: down to Montgomery, Demopolis, Jackson, Mississippi. That was going to

707
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:52,160
Speaker 1: be our target area. So we started off in Columbus

708
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:54,600
Speaker 1: that morning, I drive over to Auburn, I meet up

709
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:56,760
Speaker 1: with our buddies, and then we start to head west

710
00:33:57,040 --> 00:34:00,320
Speaker 1: and we're thinking to ourselves, we got time. This thing's

711
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:01,800
Speaker 1: probably not going to fire. The main event's not going

712
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:03,800
Speaker 1: to start until around oh two or three o'clock in

713
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:05,880
Speaker 1: the afternoon. And so we're driving west and there's a

714
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:10,239
Speaker 1: little traffic jam on eighty five that's headed into Montgomery,

715
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:12,400
Speaker 1: and so as we're sitting in the traffic jam, a

716
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:15,160
Speaker 1: funny thing happens. A tornado warning goes off. We've got

717
00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:17,040
Speaker 1: warnings for all counties in the state that we're in,

718
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 1: So a warning goes off and we say, hold on

719
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:24,160
Speaker 1: what And we have become so distracted and so convinced

720
00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:25,879
Speaker 1: that the main event wasn't going to be until later

721
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:27,759
Speaker 1: in the afternoon. We didn't realize there had been some

722
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:31,800
Speaker 1: super cells that had already fired southwest of Selma, Alabama,

723
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:34,080
Speaker 1: in areas like that. So we had to get out

724
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 1: of the traffic jam because we realized tornado warned storms

725
00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:39,919
Speaker 1: had already popped. So we get off and we get

726
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:43,040
Speaker 1: around the traffic jam. We head into Montgomery and Tornado

727
00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 1: Warning is going to be very close to Billingsley, Alabama.

728
00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:48,920
Speaker 1: There's a cell that we can intercept, probably around Billingsley.

729
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:50,600
Speaker 1: And so at this point it's like in the movie Twister.

730
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:52,399
Speaker 1: You turn up Van Halen as loud as you can

731
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:54,279
Speaker 1: and you drive as fast as you can because it

732
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:57,080
Speaker 1: is a race against the clock. All these storms. While

733
00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 1: they weren't racing at sixty miles an hour like they

734
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:02,040
Speaker 1: sometimes are down here, they're moving at a pretty good clip.

735
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 1: So we have a target area. We're using an app

736
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 1: called radar Scope. We have the premium version of that app.

737
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:11,360
Speaker 1: It is beautiful. It gives you everything from super res velocity,

738
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 1: correlation coefficient. It gives you everything that you need in

739
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:18,360
Speaker 1: the field. It is probably what spared my life March

740
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:22,600
Speaker 1: third of twenty nineteen in Beauregard, Alabama, when it got

741
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 1: us out of the way of what ended up being

742
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:27,319
Speaker 1: an ef for tornado. So we're headed towards US eighty two.

743
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:31,359
Speaker 1: It's just it's in Billingsley, it's in Ottaga County. It's

744
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:34,839
Speaker 1: where OJ Howard was from. For you Alabama fans. And

745
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:37,480
Speaker 1: we get there and it is a situation where we're

746
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 1: probably there about three or four minutes ahead of when

747
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:42,399
Speaker 1: that cell is going to cross. Now it has had

748
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:45,000
Speaker 1: a confirmed tornado on the ground, but we can't tell

749
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:46,759
Speaker 1: if it's still on the ground. We're looking for what

750
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:49,799
Speaker 1: is called a tour signature on radar, and we're kind

751
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:51,480
Speaker 1: of seeing one, kind of not seeing one. So there

752
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:53,359
Speaker 1: we are, We're sitting on US eighty two. And again,

753
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 1: you guys, if you want to see the video, it's

754
00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:57,640
Speaker 1: on Twitter. It is from about four days ago. What

755
00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:00,879
Speaker 1: day was this, the seventeenth of March. And so there

756
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:02,959
Speaker 1: we are, We're sitting there. We know we got about

757
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 1: two or three minutes to spare, so we get set

758
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:07,120
Speaker 1: up at a good angle, and there she goes. She

759
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:09,879
Speaker 1: crosses right in front of us, really early in the day.

760
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:13,359
Speaker 1: This was at one twenty three pm. We thought our

761
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:15,920
Speaker 1: action would be several hours after that, and so we

762
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 1: get a tornado. This is the first tornado I've seen

763
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 1: in person since that Beauregard tornado, which was again a monster.

764
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:24,800
Speaker 1: It was nine tenths of a mile wide for reference,

765
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 1: it was an e F four. It was March third

766
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:30,239
Speaker 1: of twenty nineteen. There were twenty three fatalities that day.

767
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:33,200
Speaker 1: There were none on this day, thank the Lord. And

768
00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 1: so we spotted the tornado, got some excellent footage of it.

769
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 1: Let me give you a little piece of advice. Don't

770
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 1: scream into the phone and turn it landscape when you're filming.

771
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:45,239
Speaker 1: Just two points of emphasis. I want you to focus on.

772
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 1: Got to have your mind right ahead of time. You

773
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:49,839
Speaker 1: don't want to be the dude's screaming expletives that they

774
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:52,160
Speaker 1: have to beep out when you're on National network news.

775
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:54,279
Speaker 1: So we got good footage of it. So then you

776
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:56,759
Speaker 1: kick into your procedure mode. You got a checklist in

777
00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:59,240
Speaker 1: your mind anytime this happens. This has been my sixth

778
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 1: tornado that I've able to spot. What you do is

779
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 1: number one, you got to get your footage sent in.

780
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:07,400
Speaker 1: Number two, you have got to go into search and

781
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:09,840
Speaker 1: rescue mode. So we come in behind it. We had

782
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:11,279
Speaker 1: to make sure it was on the ground. Yes, we

783
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:13,480
Speaker 1: confirm it was on the ground. There's damage, there's obviously

784
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 1: a tornado signature. Damage on the ground. We have to

785
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 1: make sure search and rescue mode is not necessary sometimes

786
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:21,600
Speaker 1: it is. This didn't hit any houses in our area.

787
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 1: We couldn't get down a lot of roads that were impassable.

788
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:25,920
Speaker 1: So you put the gloves away. You're not gonna have

789
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:27,759
Speaker 1: to get out and go help people get out from

790
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:30,879
Speaker 1: under debris. Then a crazy thing happened. So after you've

791
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:34,200
Speaker 1: seen a tornado, your mind goes somewhere. I don't know

792
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:36,600
Speaker 1: what happens, but I'm telling you it takes you a

793
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:40,360
Speaker 1: while to regain your bearings about yourself. You have questions

794
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 1: like where am I? You know what road are we on? Normally,

795
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:46,399
Speaker 1: stuff you would be completely dialed in on. Your head

796
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:48,560
Speaker 1: is swimming. It's kind of like if you just got

797
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 1: off a roller coaster and then you're walking around. It

798
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 1: just takes a second. You may have to go sit

799
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:54,800
Speaker 1: down on a bench for a second. It's not necessarily

800
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 1: that you're dizzy. You're just kind of whoa man. That

801
00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:58,719
Speaker 1: was a lot and so you go park at a

802
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:01,719
Speaker 1: gas station, stand up, stretch your legs, do whatever. But

803
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:04,439
Speaker 1: a lot of times you're still chasing that cell. Well,

804
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:06,759
Speaker 1: on this day, we couldn't chase it because we had

805
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:10,160
Speaker 1: I think four more active tornado warnings to the southwest. Now,

806
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:12,719
Speaker 1: this ended up being the only tornado we actually got

807
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:15,879
Speaker 1: We actually documented that day, but there were two other

808
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:19,160
Speaker 1: instances where we get over into Selma, Alabama, which for

809
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:21,960
Speaker 1: some reason is where I always tend to end up.

810
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:24,279
Speaker 1: I end up in Selma, Alabama every chase we have

811
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:27,680
Speaker 1: in the state of Alabama. The Edmund Pettis Bridge is

812
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 1: one of the most famous landmarks of the American Civil

813
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:33,319
Speaker 1: Rights era. I can tell you it's not famous for

814
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 1: tornado chasing, but I cannot tell you how many times

815
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:38,400
Speaker 1: I've been across that thing chasing a tornado. I got

816
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 1: a footage on my phone right now of us having

817
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 1: to pull a sharp U turn because we were way

818
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:46,520
Speaker 1: too close to a cell that had ended up dropping

819
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:49,480
Speaker 1: just a few miles later, another EF one tornado. But

820
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:51,880
Speaker 1: let me tell you what's funny. So as we're doing

821
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:54,719
Speaker 1: all this congru it to us completing our chase for

822
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:57,759
Speaker 1: the day. Anytime you put footage out, a lot of

823
00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 1: network news organizations are going to want it. So I

824
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:02,760
Speaker 1: worked in the business, I worked in the news industry.

825
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:05,440
Speaker 1: I know how this operates. So what I do so

826
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:07,680
Speaker 1: I'm not necessarily looking to make money off that footage

827
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:09,759
Speaker 1: is I just put it out there and then in

828
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:12,879
Speaker 1: a follow up tweet. I say, any news organization out

829
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:15,359
Speaker 1: there is free to use this with proper attribution. That

830
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:17,279
Speaker 1: just means you can use the footage. Make sure you

831
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 1: give my name. That's it. That's all I wanted. Well,

832
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 1: a lot of people aren't even looking at the second tweet,

833
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:24,960
Speaker 1: so we end up getting inundated. And this is not

834
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:26,480
Speaker 1: the first time this has happened, but we end up

835
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:29,920
Speaker 1: getting inundated with people from all kinds of newsrooms all

836
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:34,440
Speaker 1: across the country, ABC News, CBS News, Fox News, CNN,

837
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 1: all the major broadcast and cable outlets. But that's not

838
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 1: what stood out. What stood out is the Weather Channel

839
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:42,279
Speaker 1: tried to get your boy to come on and do

840
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 1: a live hit, and I had to turn him down.

841
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:46,680
Speaker 1: Ten year old Josh would have slapped modern day Josh

842
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 1: in the face if he ever knew that modern day

843
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 1: Josh was going to have to turn down a live

844
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 1: hit on the Weather Channel. But I had to because

845
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:55,319
Speaker 1: we were very busy. But that's not what stood out

846
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:57,400
Speaker 1: the most either. What stood out the most is I

847
00:39:57,480 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 1: look down at my phone and there is a produce

848
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:04,160
Speaker 1: from Al Jazeera Television asking for my footage. Now, I

849
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:07,080
Speaker 1: want you to just pause. I grew up in rural

850
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:11,080
Speaker 1: west central Georgia. Okay, my only perception of what Al

851
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:14,400
Speaker 1: Jazeera is is probably not too unlike your perception of

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Speaker 1: what Al Jazeera is now. In reality, it's a major

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Speaker 1: news gathering organization in the Middle East, but that's probably

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Speaker 1: not what your perception of it has been growing up.

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Speaker 1: So to look down at my phone again growing up

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Speaker 1: in forts and Georgia, and to see the fine folks

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Speaker 1: over at Al Jazeera say, yo, JP, can we use

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Speaker 1: your footage? It was just a lot to process. Sitting

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Speaker 1: in the what a Burger parking lot in Clanton, Alabama.

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Speaker 1: It was a lot to process. But that was our

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Speaker 1: story that day. It was a fun day. Fortunately, no fatality,

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Speaker 1: and we had a ton of tornadoes out there, so

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Speaker 1: we ended up driving who knows, like six or seven

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Speaker 1: hundred miles, never got to Mississippi. We thought for all

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Speaker 1: get over there. We stayed in Alabama the whole day.

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Speaker 1: So that was a really, really fun time. A lot

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Speaker 1: of you were hitting me up and asking me how

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Speaker 1: it was going so and a lot of you just

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Speaker 1: wanted to make sure I was still alive. I appreciate

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Speaker 1: it if I know some of you're fascinated by that.

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Speaker 1: If you're not, you tuned out ten minutes ago, and

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Speaker 1: that's fine too. For producer Jordan, I'm Josh Pate. Thanks

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Speaker 1: so much for listening. Remember we got Late Kick Live

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Speaker 1: coming up Tuesday night, so we will have a feed

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Speaker 1: of that in your podcast feed. Wednesday morning. We'll have

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Speaker 1: a normal edition of Late Kick Extra Thursday morning. We

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Speaker 1: need two thousand followers on Instagram in order to put

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Speaker 1: in motion the next Late Kick Show Owners Association meeting

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Speaker 1: at Late Kick Josh at Late Kick Josh Again. That's

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Speaker 1: all I got for you this morning. Thanks for listening,

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Speaker 1: have a great day, and God bless