1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:04,399 Speaker 1: It's back since the beginning of time in music, poetry, 2 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:08,720 Speaker 1: I don't know theater Shakespeare. Do you like them or 3 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:11,520 Speaker 1: do you love them? It's time for the twenty twenty 4 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 1: six NFL Draft, and in this episode of Defending. 5 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 2: The Kingdom, we'll talk about liking them and when you. 6 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 1: Can love them. It's all brought to you by Ticketmaster, 7 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 1: your new best friend. There is so many great things 8 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 1: going on in the Chiefs Kingdom that you can use 9 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 1: Ticketmaster for, including the twenty twenty six season. When the 10 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 1: schedule comes out, the homes in the pocket will step up. 11 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:37,600 Speaker 1: You'll scrabble ten for bags diving touchdown Chansas City, everyone. 12 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:39,880 Speaker 1: I'm Mitchelter's voice of the Chiefs along with senior team 13 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:43,560 Speaker 1: reporter Matt McMullen. We've changed our location today. We're at 14 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:47,479 Speaker 1: the press conference room, the presser room in the University 15 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:51,520 Speaker 1: of Kansas Health System Practice facility. So this is where 16 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 1: this is where they make the sausage right in here. 17 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 1: This is where the woodburns. 18 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I was thinking about this. I think the last 19 00:00:57,880 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 2: time we did an episode in this was the first 20 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:04,319 Speaker 2: episode after losing the title game to the Bengals in 21 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 2: twenty one. So we had some good luck after doing 22 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 2: an episode in here, won two straight Super Bowls and 23 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 2: went to three in a row. 24 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 1: Pretty good. Let's do that again, positive way of looking 25 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:13,760 Speaker 1: at it, because I think that's why I blocked it 26 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 1: out of my mind. Yep, yep, yeah, I could still 27 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:17,679 Speaker 1: see some I JP run on the forty one yard 28 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 1: screen pass, so yeah, or not making it before the 29 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 1: end of the half and getting up two scores perhaps Anyway, 30 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 1: that's neither here nor there. What is here? Like them? 31 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 1: Love them? We'll get into all that. Here is Matt 32 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 1: and I look at the twenty twenty six NFL Draft. 33 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 1: But before we do that, it's a tradition. Let's go 34 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 1: around the world. It got two for you today? Perfect? 35 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:42,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we Taekwon Thornton consistently had two for several. 36 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 1: Weeks, means an eleven hundred yards season for Taekwon Thornton 37 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 1: in about eight touchdown. 38 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 2: Sign me up. Shout out to Mason. 39 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 1: So. 40 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 2: I was at the grocery store last week and met 41 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 2: Mason in the parking lot. Crazy They're putting some groceries away, 42 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 2: and Mason came up and said Hi, So shout out 43 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 2: to you, Mason. Thanks for saying Hi, he wasn't stalking you. 44 00:01:58,040 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 1: No. 45 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 2: It always helps because I think Ellie just thinks I 46 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 2: don't actually have a job, you know, but when people 47 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 2: see me in the parking lot and she's like, oh, 48 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 2: they actually you know, pay attention to the stuff that 49 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 2: you do. I appreciate you, Mason. 50 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 1: Thanks you. 51 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:10,080 Speaker 2: The street cred with my wife. 52 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:12,079 Speaker 1: Not your wife is awesome. But she also realizes you're 53 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 1: kind of deal. 54 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 2: No, I think it's the opposite. Actually, also shout out 55 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 2: to Doran. So I've met him a few times up 56 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 2: a training camp over the years. Kind of a small world. 57 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 2: So Doran's wife is good friends with my wife's best friend, 58 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 2: you know, Sierra from South Dakota. Yeah, so when Sierra 59 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 2: lived here, she got to know Doran's wife. And then 60 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:35,240 Speaker 2: when I met Doron at training camp, he said, explain 61 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:38,800 Speaker 2: this whole connection. Anyway, long story short, and not Deron Sherry, 62 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 2: but I bet he was named for him, honestly. So 63 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 2: he's a huge Chiefs fan. Anyway, I saw Doran at 64 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 2: the Royals game a few weeks ago, and what I 65 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 2: love about Dorn is We're at the Royals game and 66 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 2: he's decked out in Chiefs gear. 67 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 1: So love it. 68 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:52,919 Speaker 2: Shout out to you, Deron, good seeing you again. 69 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:54,520 Speaker 1: And both of these around the world. I actually go 70 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:56,359 Speaker 1: back to your wife Elly in some way there's. 71 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:58,800 Speaker 2: A connection that Ellie is the connection. Yes, yeah, shout 72 00:02:58,800 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 2: out to Ellie. 73 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 1: Shout out to her. She's amazing actually what she does 74 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:06,520 Speaker 1: for our community, especially with the incredible Kansas City Zoo. 75 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 1: We kid about La, but she's she's big time. 76 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 2: Go to the zoo, go to the aquarium. 77 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 1: It's yeah, okay, you and I have been We've had 78 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:18,520 Speaker 1: a little more time to work on the draft this year. Yeah, 79 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:20,799 Speaker 1: not getting deep into the playoffs, so that meant our 80 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:24,519 Speaker 1: off season began earlier than usual. It's been an interesting draft. 81 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 1: You and I have done the deep dive. We've swam 82 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 1: a couple laps in the pool, got out and dove 83 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 1: back in again. On this episode, though, and here's the 84 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 1: surgeon General's warning, we're going to give you some names 85 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 1: that Matt and I like. Not necessarily, there's some household 86 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 1: names here that you've heard over and over and over 87 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 1: if you're not even just a draft freak. But the 88 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 1: caution here is because you've been in the league long 89 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 1: enough and it's only my thirty third year. You like 90 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 1: these players, but you don't fall in love with them 91 00:03:56,880 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 1: because think of the percentage is that they would become 92 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 1: a Kansas City Chief. We like these guys, but we'll 93 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 1: really love them when they become a Chief. If they 94 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 1: become a Chief. 95 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 2: So setting the stage for this whole episode in the 96 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 2: draft coming up, can I hit you with a number 97 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 2: that I found pretty impressive? So this is via Josh 98 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 2: Dunbo with the AP. So, the twenty twenty two draft 99 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 2: class for the Chiefs played twenty four thousand, one and 100 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:25,279 Speaker 2: forty one total snaps in the regular season and the 101 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 2: playoffs during their four year stretch. Here, most by any 102 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 2: team's draft class in their first four seasons since at 103 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 2: least two thousand and six, and more than one thousand 104 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 2: snaps ahead of the next closest team. I bet it's 105 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 2: one of the most the highest numbers in league history. 106 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 2: They just don't have the data going far back enough. 107 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 2: But think about that. I mean, we talk about it 108 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:46,359 Speaker 2: all the time, how transformative the twenty twenty two class was. 109 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:49,279 Speaker 2: We need that again right now. And I mentioned how 110 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 2: the last time we shot this episode was after that 111 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:54,479 Speaker 2: brutal loss to the Bengals. But we turned things around. Well, 112 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 2: one of the primary reasons we turn things around was 113 00:04:56,839 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 2: the twenty twenty two draft class. Well, we have a 114 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 2: chance to do that again. We got to hit on 115 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:03,480 Speaker 2: these picks though, I mean, having nine picks we have, 116 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:05,840 Speaker 2: let me see year one, two, three, four, four picks 117 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 2: in the top one hundred, I mean, a big opportunity 118 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:11,120 Speaker 2: for the Chiefs and fortunately a lot of players that 119 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:13,240 Speaker 2: we like a lot, but yeah, don't don't love them yet, 120 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:15,039 Speaker 2: but hopefully we love some of these guys pretty soon. 121 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 1: In fact, here's your code for your next If you've 122 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:22,720 Speaker 1: got like a lock that you can just set it up. 123 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 1: So right nine left, twenty nine, right forty left seventy 124 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 1: four right one oh nine, left one forty eight, right 125 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 1: one sixty nine left two ten oh slip one sixty 126 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 1: five in there a compensation pick in the fifth round. 127 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 1: But to your point, and we mentioned this, to have 128 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 1: four picks in the top seventy five is crazy. Yeah, 129 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 1: And then you look that if you stay where you're 130 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 1: and you know that Beach is going to be trading, 131 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 1: he just is, you still got five more picks, all 132 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:55,599 Speaker 1: before the start of the seventh round. So yeah, you 133 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:58,160 Speaker 1: look at great drafts the nineteen sixty three draft, if 134 00:05:58,200 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 1: you want to go back into the ancient of days, 135 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 1: actually set up the run that led to the Super 136 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 1: Bowl four title and the incredible class of twenty twenty two. 137 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 1: You and I've talked about him over and over and 138 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:09,479 Speaker 1: over again, and I love those stats because they just 139 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 1: verify what we've said in many ways from a completeness. 140 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 1: Maybe the best draft class in Chiefs history, and I 141 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 1: think that can be defended. But now you got to 142 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 1: try to replicate it because those guys have all kind 143 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:24,480 Speaker 1: of splintered, and most of them other than George Carlotus 144 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 1: and it's like nausey still here, but everybody's got to 145 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:29,599 Speaker 1: move on all around. But the point is if you 146 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:32,679 Speaker 1: can try to replicate or get close with these nine picks, 147 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 1: if you stay put, you can set yourself up for 148 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 1: another run. 149 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 2: And really, I think a theme in the twenty twenty 150 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:41,680 Speaker 2: two class was the best player available mantra. So think 151 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:43,839 Speaker 2: about how that all played out. We've talked about it before. 152 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 2: Trading up for Trent McDuffie was interesting because going into 153 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 2: the draft, were you thinking we got to get a 154 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:51,480 Speaker 2: corner in the first round, Like that's an obvious thing 155 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 2: we got to do. I don't think so. I think 156 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:55,719 Speaker 2: it was a matter of a really good player falling 157 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:58,160 Speaker 2: and the Chiefs found a spot for him. A similar 158 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:00,080 Speaker 2: deal if you look at later in the draft they 159 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 2: take Joshua Williams in the fourth round. Well, even though 160 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:04,600 Speaker 2: they took two corners earlier, didn't stop him from taking 161 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:06,599 Speaker 2: Jalen Watson in the seventh round. He was the top 162 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 2: player on their board. Leo Chanel on the third round. 163 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 2: I don't think linebacker was a crazy need for the 164 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 2: Chiefs at that point, but they said, Hey, this is 165 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 2: our top player on the board. We're going to take 166 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 2: this guy, find a role for him. And think about 167 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 2: all those players I mentioned, they all found a way 168 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 2: to impact this team and help this team win super Bowls, 169 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 2: even if it wasn't like an obvious, Hey we're drafting 170 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 2: for need right now. So the Chiefs do a good 171 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 2: job of that about really taking the best player available. 172 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 2: Did an amazing job of it in twenty twenty two. 173 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 2: And I think the way that we've used free agency 174 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 2: this offseason, as we've put ourselves in a position to 175 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 2: truly go after the best players available. And it's funny. 176 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 2: I mean, you look at mock drafts, you look at 177 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 2: projections and the experts are trying to marry the need 178 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 2: with the best player available. Not always the case. I mean, 179 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 2: we might end up with some players that we don't 180 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 2: even talk about today, but four years from now, hopefully 181 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 2: we're looking back and saying, that guy helped us win 182 00:07:57,040 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 2: a Super Bowl. 183 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 1: Yeah. The remarkable stat of the twenty two class is 184 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 1: the fact that those guys are nine and one in 185 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 1: the playoffs. They lost one. 186 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 2: Playoff game and it was the Super Bowl. 187 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, and so incredible group. We'll asue him 188 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 1: at reunions, hug them, shed some tears and laughter, and 189 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 1: wish them the best. But here we are in the present, 190 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 1: and we push on and let's go in. We're gonna 191 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 1: look at six different categories. We can't sit here and 192 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 1: do a five hour draft show, though we could could be. 193 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 1: We could, and it'd be fun. But we're gonna look 194 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 1: at six different categories of players and just pick the 195 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:33,720 Speaker 1: guy that maybe intrigues us a lot, not the most. 196 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 1: And some of these will be household names that you followed, 197 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:41,079 Speaker 1: some will not, But I think there's interest in each 198 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 1: one of these and have their own individual stories. So 199 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:45,840 Speaker 1: I'll start. We're gonna look at safety, but I'm gonna 200 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 1: start with Caleb Downs. And people are going, oh, no brainer, 201 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:51,320 Speaker 1: like nice, you know, way to go cat than obvious. 202 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:54,839 Speaker 1: But here's what's not so obvious. I think all of 203 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 1: the Ohio State guys are miscast of the main guys 204 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 1: in Northern card Tate. He's a wide receiver. But when 205 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 1: you look at Downs, and we mentioned this a little 206 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 1: bit ago, I think, or a couple episodes ago, he's 207 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:09,680 Speaker 1: listed as a safety. To me when I review the video, 208 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 1: which is very, very impressive, he's a slot corner. He 209 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 1: can play safety, but he's a slot corner. And the 210 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 1: fact that when he led Alabama me we started at 211 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 1: Alabama before he went to Ohio State at Caleb Downs, 212 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:24,960 Speaker 1: he led Alabama in tackles. That was the first freshman 213 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:28,920 Speaker 1: to lead Alabama in tackles ever. So that's the player 214 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:31,439 Speaker 1: Caleb Downs is. And you look at two hunred and 215 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 1: fifty seven career tackles, he would fit. He would be 216 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:37,839 Speaker 1: an incredible scheme fit, and he would be also an 217 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 1: incredible replacement for Trent McDuffie because I get the sense 218 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 1: wherever he lands, Caleb Downs, he will be a phenomenal 219 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 1: slot corner to me. 220 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 2: So first of all, Caleb Downs is my favorite player 221 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 2: in this draft. I think he's awesome. I think he's 222 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 2: the kind of player that could come in on Day 223 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:58,680 Speaker 2: one and be a piece of your defense, like right 224 00:09:58,679 --> 00:10:01,680 Speaker 2: away because of his very satility. He can play the slot, 225 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 2: which if you look at modern NFL offenses, some of 226 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:07,559 Speaker 2: the best receivers on the opposing team are playing out 227 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 2: of the slot now, and some of the best defenses 228 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 2: in the league they have that jack of all trades 229 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 2: kind of safety that can go in there and do 230 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 2: a little bit of everything. Cover the slot, blitz off 231 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 2: the edge, play deep if need be, be that extra 232 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:20,839 Speaker 2: linebacker if they need to be, play the run, all 233 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:23,200 Speaker 2: that stuff. Kiala Downs can do all of those things, 234 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 2: and man, if we got him at number nine, I 235 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 2: think that'd be a total steal. I'll give you one 236 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 2: more though at safety. Not sure if this is a 237 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 2: late first rounder early second rounder. Probably trending more tour 238 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 2: to being a late first rounder, but it's Emmanuel McNeil 239 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:40,959 Speaker 2: Warren from Toledo. Interesting player for a lot of reasons. 240 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:44,200 Speaker 2: So he's kind of like a long, lanky player with 241 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 2: a lot of ball skills. So five career picks, including 242 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 2: two interceptions last year, nine career forced fumbles. So he 243 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 2: has mastered the Peanut Tillman punch out and it's a 244 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 2: thing of beauty to watch and we could use that 245 00:10:56,800 --> 00:10:58,560 Speaker 2: on our defense. I think we've talked about this for 246 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:00,599 Speaker 2: a couple of years now, meeting to find ways to 247 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:05,200 Speaker 2: get more sudden change defensive plays, explosive defensive plays, and 248 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 2: get some more takeaways. And that's Emmanuel McNeil Warren's bread 249 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:11,560 Speaker 2: and butter. He was called for just one penalty in 250 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 2: college on nearly two thousand defensive snaps, So kind of 251 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:17,680 Speaker 2: impressive to think about that aggressive nature to be going 252 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 2: for the ball and to have those interceptions, but also 253 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:23,319 Speaker 2: to not be penalized. So I think that's kind of 254 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 2: interesting where he's not an over aggressive player. He's an 255 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:28,840 Speaker 2: aggressive player within the rules of the defense, and that's 256 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 2: a good thing. Also, he'd never transferred from Toledo, and 257 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:35,200 Speaker 2: I know that you'd love that. Guys like this don't 258 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:38,199 Speaker 2: come along very often where they're a star at a 259 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 2: school like Toledo, and they stay at Toledo because they 260 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:43,439 Speaker 2: believe in the coaching staff there. They believe that's the 261 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 2: best environment for them to grow. I think it's really 262 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 2: cool that he was probably offered a bunch of money 263 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:50,600 Speaker 2: to go somewhere else and he said, I'm good, I'm 264 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 2: gonna stay here at Toledo or they gave me a 265 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 2: chance initially. So he's probably a guy that you could 266 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 2: take it like twenty nine, maybe forty if he fell, 267 00:11:57,880 --> 00:11:59,960 Speaker 2: But he'd be a fun piece to add to the second. 268 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:02,320 Speaker 1: He's another guy that I feel could be a Day 269 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 1: one impact guy, even if in the sub position. But 270 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 1: he's so long. Yeah, then that's where those punchouts come 271 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 1: from and deflections. But and again coming from Toledo, people 272 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:16,320 Speaker 1: would say, well, he played in the Mac. Well, Quinyan 273 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:18,560 Speaker 1: Mitchell played in the Mac. Okay, he was one of 274 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:20,560 Speaker 1: my favorite guys in that whole draft. I remember that 275 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 1: I liked him. 276 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 2: You were right about it. 277 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I couldn't love him because then he beats us 278 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 1: in a Super Bowl. So that's my whole point. You 279 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 1: can like these guys, just don't love him until their 280 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:31,439 Speaker 1: own But yes, I did love him. But I've learned 281 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 1: about but the fact that so many guys now get up, 282 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 1: they get bought up. Basically I look at the combine. 283 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:40,839 Speaker 1: We talked about only five FCS guys there. I don't 284 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:43,959 Speaker 1: think any Division two or three guys. But when guys 285 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 1: stay where they're at, to me, it is a great sign. 286 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 1: That is a green flag. And the fact that he 287 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:52,319 Speaker 1: stayed there at Toledo, I like him very much. I 288 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:53,320 Speaker 1: think that's a great spot. 289 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, should we jumped to edge. 290 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:55,560 Speaker 1: Let's go to edge. 291 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:57,720 Speaker 2: Okay, I'll give you one. This is another guy that 292 00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 2: probably could fit around like a twenty nine area, maybe forty, 293 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:05,480 Speaker 2: but probably twenty nine. It's TJ. Parker from Clemson. To me, 294 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:07,720 Speaker 2: he kind of hits all the benchmarks for what SPAGS 295 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 2: looks for in an edge rusher. So he's six foot four, 296 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 2: two hundred and sixty three pounds with thirty three inch arms. 297 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 2: He's a playmaker. This is crazy. A third of his 298 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 2: career tackles were in the backfield. Think about that. Consistently 299 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 2: just making plays, tackles for loss. He had more tackles 300 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 2: for loss actually at forty one and a half than 301 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 2: games played in college with just thirty nine. So consistently 302 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 2: making plays, great motor, always going one hundred miles an 303 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 2: hour even after the initial rush. He has some great 304 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 2: tape where the running back will get up field or 305 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:40,200 Speaker 2: as a screen, he turns around and tracks that player down. 306 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 2: Doesn't happen a lot a lot of times. You watch 307 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 2: edge rushers who are there to get a sack, and 308 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 2: a sack only if their rush initially fails, they've taken 309 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:48,840 Speaker 2: the playoff. That's not TJ. 310 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:49,320 Speaker 1: Parker. 311 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 2: Now, he was amazing in twenty twenty four, like crazy numbers. 312 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 2: He had nineteen and a half tackles for loss, eleven sacks, 313 00:13:55,679 --> 00:13:59,080 Speaker 2: and six forced fumbles in twenty twenty four. Production wasn't 314 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:01,960 Speaker 2: as highlast year, dipped a little bit, but the foundation 315 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 2: is obviously there, the potential is there, and he was durable. 316 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:08,000 Speaker 2: Played in thirty nine straight games to wrap up his career. 317 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:10,320 Speaker 2: So TJ. Parker to me, if he was there at 318 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 2: twenty nine would be a home run. 319 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:14,440 Speaker 1: Let me give you another one who could be at 320 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 1: forty don't know it's about seventy four, but he might. 321 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 1: And I'm gonna go Ellie makes your heartbeat fast. Yeah, 322 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:23,320 Speaker 1: another guy that made you. 323 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 2: For good reasons and bad sometimes. Yeah, I've forgotten something that's. 324 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:30,680 Speaker 1: A whole other episode. But I'm right here going for 325 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 1: your heart because Zion Young of MISSOI, oh yeah, all right. 326 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 1: Originally was it Michigan State wasn't putting up huge numbers there, 327 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 1: but enough enough at Michigan State. But give me your 328 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 1: give me your on Parker. Give me his heightweight, and he's. 329 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:50,600 Speaker 2: Sixty four, two hundred and sixty three pounds with thirty 330 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 2: three inch arms. 331 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 1: Here's Zion Young six', six two hundred and sixty two 332 00:14:54,680 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 1: pounds and thirty three inch. Arms the length is. Crazy 333 00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 1: so the point is, here you AND i are the like. 334 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 1: Spags these are two spags. Guys does that feel that 335 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 1: way to? 336 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 2: You, well there's a lot of not spags guys in this, 337 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:08,000 Speaker 2: draft oh ya that maybe they could end up. Here 338 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:10,080 Speaker 2: but in terms of what spags looks, for, yeah these 339 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 2: are spags players for. 340 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 1: Sure And zion has been called a poor Man's Trey. 341 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 1: HENDRICKSON i will take a poor Man's Trey. Hendrickson, yeah 342 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:20,640 Speaker 1: you know. THAT i Love Trey. Hendrickson Like Trey, HENDRICKSON 343 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 1: i don't love, him and it's that we're red and. 344 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 1: Gold we have to be careful and he's crushed us 345 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 1: a couple of. Times but when you look at what 346 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 1: he did At, missoo same thing he and watching his, 347 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:30,920 Speaker 1: TAPE i love. Him you watch him because you're A miszoo, fan. 348 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 1: Yep but he's the same you just. Described the description 349 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 1: of these two players are very similar because he will fire, 350 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 1: out he will. Rush the play's not his, side but 351 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 1: he will scream out to the, outside whether it's a bubble, 352 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 1: screen tunnel, screen outside. Zone he's Not Oh i'm. Blocked 353 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 1: i'm going to give up on this. Play his motor 354 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:55,480 Speaker 1: to me and his pursuit is. Excellent so you AND 355 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 1: i both have high hopes For Ashton. Jalatti same kind of. 356 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:02,040 Speaker 1: Player BUT i think these two guys and that's WHY 357 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 1: i kind of Love Zion young, here Like Zion young, 358 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 1: here not love unless he is a, chief but kind 359 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 1: of the same. 360 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 2: Guy, well and With, parker and to an even more 361 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:15,200 Speaker 2: extent With young because of his, length you can bounce 362 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 2: that kind of player. Inside they get their hands up 363 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 2: and you're knocking a pass down at the line of. 364 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:21,920 Speaker 2: Scrimmage you've talked about this. Before that's as good as 365 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 2: a sack in my. Mind that wipes out of. Play 366 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 2: and ALSO i think about How CHARLES. A minehu when 367 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 2: he was playing his best football how he fit in this. 368 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 2: Defense Zion young to me is that kind of, PLAYER i, 369 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 2: think and. 370 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 1: Many times better than a sack because a thirty five 371 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 1: yard pass gets wiped. Out, yeah you watch it on 372 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 1: video and, go he's wide open for thirty five yards 373 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:41,520 Speaker 1: in the ball never makes it past the line of. 374 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 1: Scrimmage all, Right so safety and edge and edge gets 375 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:49,040 Speaker 1: a lot of. Discussion but let's go wide, receiver which 376 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:52,760 Speaker 1: also gets a lot of. Discussion And i'm not sure 377 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 1: this is a. Nine i'm not sure it's a twenty. 378 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 1: Nine it might, be but he's climbing up the. Charts 379 00:16:57,320 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 1: and when you AND i get really kind of excited 380 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 1: about some when we'll text. 381 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 2: You, yeah no matter what time of day or, night it. 382 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:06,160 Speaker 1: Could be four in the. Morning and, uh we also 383 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:08,440 Speaker 1: Put Austin woodard on that because he's Our, yeah he's 384 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:12,879 Speaker 1: our draft. Maniac but WHEN i Watched Ted hurst video 385 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:15,720 Speaker 1: At Georgia, state you're you won a national title At 386 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:18,679 Speaker 1: georgia did before you went To New Mexico. State uh 387 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 1: in college football video? Game BUT i, okay really like his. 388 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:31,399 Speaker 1: Game this one this, Well i'm. Close this is A 389 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:33,440 Speaker 1: Mike evans clone to me in many, ways he is 390 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:36,360 Speaker 1: a red zone. Animal when you look at what he 391 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:40,359 Speaker 1: has done ball, tracker and when you look at the 392 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 1: two years At Georgia state just south of two thousand 393 00:17:43,119 --> 00:17:46,959 Speaker 1: yards and fifteen, touchdowns and he is a guy that 394 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 1: will run, routes but he's also got enough length where 395 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:53,199 Speaker 1: he gives you the numbers to boundary h stretch the. 396 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 1: Field so right now in THE, nfl we've talked about 397 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:57,560 Speaker 1: this ad. NAUSEA i, mean you can just watch games 398 00:17:57,600 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 1: and the and the. Playoffs to me really sentuated this 399 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 1: two deep safeties The puka A coupas of the world 400 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:06,720 Speaker 1: are winning games because they're getting catches at eight yards 401 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:09,159 Speaker 1: making him, eighteen giving you all this middle of the. 402 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:12,200 Speaker 1: Field the shots that are taken now in THE, nfl 403 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:14,280 Speaker 1: at least in recent years or last year and a, 404 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:17,400 Speaker 1: half are numbers to. Boundary no help on the. Outside 405 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:20,120 Speaker 1: your two safeties over the top may be. Occupied it's 406 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:23,040 Speaker 1: a one on one play and even if you don't complete, 407 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:27,160 Speaker 1: it A dpi is in there, someplace, sure so that's 408 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:30,720 Speaker 1: where the shots are. Going and so for maybe A Taekwon. 409 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:33,359 Speaker 1: Thornton But i'm talking numbers to boundary and the strength 410 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 1: to make those. Plays to, me Ted hurst is that. 411 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:40,480 Speaker 1: Guy and he's not listed with the other receivers with 412 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:44,159 Speaker 1: The tats and The tysons and the Mackay lemons And 413 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 1: boston the kid From, washington but he's not far. Behind 414 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:50,679 Speaker 1: AND i really like his. 415 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 2: Video you, know it's fun to look back at past 416 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:56,680 Speaker 2: drafts and you wonder how did certain players go as 417 00:18:56,720 --> 00:18:58,480 Speaker 2: low as they. Did he might be one of those 418 00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:00,880 Speaker 2: guys that we look back on and say he went 419 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 2: in the third round or, whatever fourth, Round like what 420 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:05,640 Speaker 2: how did that? Happen i'm with. YOU i will give 421 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:07,439 Speaker 2: you a player, though that's being talked about as a 422 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:11,040 Speaker 2: potential nine overall, guy and That's Carnell. Taate SO i 423 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:15,280 Speaker 2: Think tait is really fascinating because he doesn't have blazing. 424 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:17,359 Speaker 2: Speed he runs a four to five to, three but 425 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:19,720 Speaker 2: he might be the top vertical threat in this year's. 426 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:22,119 Speaker 2: Class well why is? That, well because he's really good 427 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 2: at a lot of stuff that makes you a great vertical. 428 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:26,879 Speaker 2: Receiver so he can put his foot in the ground 429 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 2: and create separation because of his, athleticism like better than 430 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:32,439 Speaker 2: a lot of players in this, class better than players 431 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 2: that might have better speed than he, does just because 432 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:36,959 Speaker 2: of how he can use his. Footwork, also he is 433 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 2: so good even if there's a guy draped over him 434 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:42,720 Speaker 2: about going up and getting the. Football so he caught 435 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:46,879 Speaker 2: twelve of fourteen contested targets last, season nine catches of 436 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:49,080 Speaker 2: forty or more yards last, year second most in THE. 437 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:52,960 Speaker 2: Fbs he averaged thirty two yards per touchdown reception and 438 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:54,960 Speaker 2: he had nine of, those by the, Way and my 439 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:58,760 Speaker 2: favorite note On Carnel tait zero drops on sixty six 440 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 2: targets last. Year, so, yeah you look at the forty 441 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 2: time and you, SAY i don't, know is that a 442 00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:06,360 Speaker 2: number nine overall? RECEIVER i say. Yes when you look 443 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 2: at his, video when you look at what he's able 444 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 2: to do and how he's truly a complete player who 445 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:13,280 Speaker 2: can be a true vertical, THREAT i, think go up 446 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:15,399 Speaker 2: and get the. Football mahomes can throw it up, there 447 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:16,879 Speaker 2: he's an account on, this got to come down with, 448 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:18,639 Speaker 2: it and he can do so many different THINGS i 449 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:21,720 Speaker 2: think in the intermediate passing game as. Well so don't 450 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 2: worry about the forty. TIME i think this is a 451 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:25,440 Speaker 2: player that's really good at a lot of things that 452 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:26,119 Speaker 2: kind of make up for. 453 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 1: That. WELL i really like. It, OKAY i Mentioned pooka 454 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:35,520 Speaker 1: And akua his forty time four or five, Five, yeah, EXACTLY, OKAYJSN, 455 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:39,679 Speaker 1: Jsn Jackson smith And jigba incredible year right his forty 456 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 1: time four five? Five, okay What tate does? THAT i, 457 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:46,159 Speaker 1: like remember when we talked on an episode during the 458 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 1: season about the tight window, throw meaning or the tight window. 459 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 1: Catch we talk about the tight window throw with quarterbacks 460 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:54,560 Speaker 1: all the. Time pat can make. It, ready he's got 461 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:57,480 Speaker 1: a just a sliver of a, gap he can do. 462 00:20:57,520 --> 00:21:00,400 Speaker 1: It but the tight window catch The, chiefs we didn't 463 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:02,879 Speaker 1: make it last. Year and those are the plays you 464 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 1: have to make against these look prolific two deep zones 465 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:09,360 Speaker 1: and you take shots numbers to, boundary but you're going 466 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:13,200 Speaker 1: to have to make tight window catches And tate has done, 467 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 1: that and so you're. Contested analys of a contested catch 468 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 1: would be perfect in fitting A Kansas City chief. 469 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:23,200 Speaker 2: Uniform it's something That Taekwon THORNTON i think did well 470 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:25,920 Speaker 2: last year deep down the, field making contested. Catches it's 471 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:28,120 Speaker 2: also something THAT i don't Think tyreek ever got enough 472 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 2: credit for Because tyreek obviously is the fastest player in THE, 473 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 2: nfl or was during his time with The, chiefs but 474 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:35,920 Speaker 2: he could go up and get the football deep down 475 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:38,359 Speaker 2: the field Like Carnel tate can do. That SO i 476 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:39,719 Speaker 2: think he'd be a home run up The chiefs were 477 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:41,280 Speaker 2: able to land. Him he would just add a different 478 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:44,240 Speaker 2: DYNAMIC i think to the. Offense are we jumping to 479 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 2: a corner not a? 480 00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 1: Corner and you got to go first on this? One all? 481 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 2: Right i'll give you a guy that really has kind 482 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:50,920 Speaker 2: of grown on me over, time And i'm kind of 483 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 2: fired up about As jermad McCoy From. Tennessee so he 484 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 2: was one of the top corners in the nation back 485 00:21:57,320 --> 00:22:00,879 Speaker 2: in twenty twenty, four his first season At. Tennessee he 486 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:04,200 Speaker 2: was awesome AND i think tracking to be the top 487 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:07,000 Speaker 2: corner taken in this year's, draft if not right there 488 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:08,720 Speaker 2: With Monsieur, delaine WHO i think is kind of the 489 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:11,199 Speaker 2: consensus number one, guy but McCoy was right there with. 490 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 2: Him the issue is In january of that, season he 491 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:17,639 Speaker 2: tore HIS acl and wiped out his entire season this, 492 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:20,160 Speaker 2: year so couldn't play at. All hasn't played football since 493 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:23,160 Speaker 2: twenty twenty. Four the tape is really, good, though and 494 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:26,360 Speaker 2: if people were concerned about his rehab how things were, 495 00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:28,680 Speaker 2: going we ran a four four forty at his pro, 496 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 2: day so he seems like he's doing all. RIGHT i 497 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 2: think he has the ability to be like a complete. 498 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:36,479 Speaker 2: Corner he can play press, man he can play, zone 499 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:39,360 Speaker 2: he can do just about anything played high level. FOOTBALL 500 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:41,800 Speaker 2: i think it's funny his first career interception when he 501 00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:44,680 Speaker 2: was At Oregon state was Against Fernando. Mendoza he's likely 502 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 2: going to be A raider that would be a good. 503 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:48,119 Speaker 2: Fit and, also he went to White House High school 504 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:50,840 Speaker 2: And Patrick mahomes knows, him and there's this awesome PICTURE 505 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:54,720 Speaker 2: i think it was maybe twenty eighteen or, seventeen very 506 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:57,640 Speaker 2: early In mahomes', career he went back To White house 507 00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:00,160 Speaker 2: and there's a picture of him with Young jermad McCoy 508 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 2: and how funny would that be if they ended up 509 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 2: on the same. Team so he's the kind of player 510 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 2: THAT i think could really elevate the. Secondary we'll see 511 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:11,160 Speaker 2: if he's available later in the, draft like at number. 512 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:13,320 Speaker 2: NINE i don't know if he's that kind of guy right. 513 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:14,919 Speaker 2: Now maybe he is if The chiefs really fall in 514 00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:16,720 Speaker 2: love with, Him but that could be the kind of 515 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 2: candidate that if The chiefs want to trade back or 516 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:20,440 Speaker 2: trade into the middle of the first. Round he can 517 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:20,919 Speaker 2: make a lot of. 518 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 1: Sense, yeah so keep your theory on the. Sandwich to, 519 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:27,159 Speaker 1: me he's exhibit a of why you would eat a. 520 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:28,960 Speaker 1: Sandwich just hang on to that for a. 521 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:32,280 Speaker 2: Second, YEAH i Mean i'm talking About i'm. 522 00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:34,640 Speaker 1: Gonna Take Monsieur delaine here because you had mentioned. Him, 523 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:37,679 Speaker 1: yeah love his. Tape he's another one that when we 524 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:40,080 Speaker 1: watched it And i'm, like oh my, gosh love this. Guy, 525 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 1: now McCoy And delaye both are spags. Guys delaane to 526 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:49,760 Speaker 1: me is a computer generated spags guy At Virginia. Tech 527 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:52,399 Speaker 1: he wasn't, bad but he really flourished in his year AT, 528 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:58,840 Speaker 1: lsu a prototype man press. Defender think about the guys 529 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:01,399 Speaker 1: in the class of twenty two talked About Jalen. Watson 530 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:04,320 Speaker 1: Jalen watson was able to thrive here as a seventh 531 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:06,960 Speaker 1: round pick because he fit the way The chiefs do, 532 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:10,639 Speaker 1: business and so does Montsur. Delaine, now why would you 533 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:12,880 Speaker 1: take a corner at the ninth? Pick would you take 534 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 1: a corner of the ninth? Pick because people were, like, 535 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 1: OH i don't know about. It patzertan was taken as 536 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:20,000 Speaker 1: the ninth pick with it Nver broncos if you look 537 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:23,399 Speaker 1: At delane six two two oh two fits The spags corner. 538 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:27,120 Speaker 1: Right it's a big, dude but he'll flip his hips 539 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 1: like no other and he also tracks the. Ball he 540 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:34,720 Speaker 1: is also a. Tackler keep in mind our top tacklers top. 541 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 1: Five if you look since twenty, two the corners are 542 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:40,640 Speaker 1: in there. Somewhere they're always wants some of our top. 543 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 1: Tacklers why we're great at bubblescreen. Defense they don't miss. 544 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:48,200 Speaker 1: Tackles if you're not a willing, tackler then don't come 545 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:52,400 Speaker 1: be A Kansas City chief. Cornerback But delane forty five 546 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:55,640 Speaker 1: tackles AT. Lsu fifty four is a junior At Virginia. 547 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 1: Tech fifty four is a sophomore At Virginia. Tech so 548 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:01,720 Speaker 1: it's a. Hut fifty three tackles in three years from 549 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:05,480 Speaker 1: a corner that is music to the ears Of Dave 550 00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:12,000 Speaker 1: merritt and defensive coordinator and Coach bagnolo And Steve. Spagnolo all, 551 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 1: right still ball skills eight, interceptions four force, fumbles twenty 552 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:22,359 Speaker 1: seven passes broken, Up, smart, tough tall, tackler man. DEFENDER 553 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:28,159 Speaker 1: i really like Montsour delaye AND i would really like 554 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:29,840 Speaker 1: taking him at, nine and if we get him at, 555 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:30,439 Speaker 1: nine Then i'll love. 556 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:32,400 Speaker 2: Him SO i just Saw spags in the. Hallway did 557 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:32,640 Speaker 2: you see? 558 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 1: Him? Yes. 559 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:34,639 Speaker 2: Yeah we should have just had him on the episode 560 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:36,960 Speaker 2: and been, like what do you think These IF i, 561 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:40,320 Speaker 2: say IF i Say jermald McCoy Or Monster, delaine what 562 00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:43,399 Speaker 2: do you? Say you, Know i'm. Curious, Yeah i'd be 563 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:46,359 Speaker 2: thrilled with either of those guys getting a player of 564 00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:49,400 Speaker 2: that caliber at. Corner we've talked about the need to 565 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:51,960 Speaker 2: enhance the pass. Rush, well adding a player like that 566 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 2: helps the pass rush because you're adding potentially an all 567 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:59,119 Speaker 2: pro level corner to your. Defense i'm with you offensive tackle, 568 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:00,920 Speaker 2: next what we're doing or where do you want to 569 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:01,679 Speaker 2: go if it's? 570 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:04,679 Speaker 1: Hard but let's talk about your. Sandwich oh, yeah theory 571 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:08,440 Speaker 1: while we're on the, topic and the fact that this 572 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:12,439 Speaker 1: is where a drmid McCoy would be a great example of. 573 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:15,399 Speaker 1: This so your, THEORY i agree with, it potentially is. 574 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:18,159 Speaker 2: What SO i think it would work out great if 575 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 2: The chiefs traded down from number nine to LIKE i 576 00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:23,840 Speaker 2: haven't looked at a team in, mind but like fifteen 577 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:25,480 Speaker 2: or sixteen or, seventeen. 578 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:25,959 Speaker 1: What About dallas at? 579 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:29,360 Speaker 2: Twelve that'd be, great and then you trade up from 580 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:32,760 Speaker 2: twenty nine later to like twenty, one twenty two or 581 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:35,080 Speaker 2: something like, that you would get some more, picks and 582 00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:37,200 Speaker 2: you still end up with two picks in the middle 583 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:38,879 Speaker 2: of the first. Round AND i think a player like 584 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:41,439 Speaker 2: McCoy is like the perfect player to take at like 585 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:43,600 Speaker 2: twelve overall or in the middle of the first. Round 586 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:46,640 Speaker 2: so that's my. Theory if it, happens who. Knows i'm 587 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:48,360 Speaker 2: not saying it's going to happen Or i've heard that's 588 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:49,919 Speaker 2: going to. Happen i'm just saying that would be a 589 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:51,959 Speaker 2: fun result and you could get some more picks as. 590 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:55,160 Speaker 1: Well and let's just, say and even at twenty, nine, 591 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 1: everybody don't freak out if you don't get an edge 592 00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 1: or a wide receiver at, nine because in this draft 593 00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 1: there's going to be a potential starter at wide receiver 594 00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 1: or edge at twenty. Nine, yeah and maybe even at, 595 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:10,040 Speaker 1: forty because that's my. Goal we'll get to the. End, 596 00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:13,240 Speaker 1: first here ethan dessert while we're having the, veggies is 597 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 1: the fact THAT i want three. Starters i'm not, greedy 598 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:17,680 Speaker 1: but at, nine twenty, nine and, forty you're, Going, mitch 599 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:20,360 Speaker 1: what do you want three, starters day one, starters day, 600 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:23,080 Speaker 1: one snap, one impact, players and you can get that 601 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:26,240 Speaker 1: with those three picks in this draft at the variety 602 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 1: of needs The chiefs. 603 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:29,480 Speaker 2: HAVE i think that has to be the, expectation and 604 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:31,840 Speaker 2: if you look back at twenty twenty, two that's what we. 605 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 2: Got so we got a starting, corner we got a 606 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:38,120 Speaker 2: starting at dresser At George carl Loftis leo was kind 607 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:40,320 Speaker 2: of a. Starter he was like That sam, linebacker BUT 608 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:43,280 Speaker 2: i was in there quite a. Bit Brian cook was 609 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:45,760 Speaker 2: the third safety, essentially but we just had depth. There 610 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:47,440 Speaker 2: but he could have started if need. Be But Asaia 611 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:49,520 Speaker 2: pacheco was the starting running back for this. Team halfway 612 00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:50,560 Speaker 2: through the next, Season. 613 00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:52,480 Speaker 1: Jalen watson in the second week in THE nfl credit 614 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:53,240 Speaker 1: a ninety nine yard. 615 00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:55,400 Speaker 2: Pick, Yes Jilan watson was essentially a starter with the whole. 616 00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:57,800 Speaker 2: Season so even if you don't find him in the top, 617 00:27:57,840 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 2: three we need to find starters in this. Draft But 618 00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 2: i'm with, you those top three picks need to be. 619 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:02,760 Speaker 2: STARTERS i think. 620 00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:05,040 Speaker 1: We're going to offensive. Tackle this is mine to. Start 621 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 1: and Now i'm gonna go down because we've said this. 622 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:13,520 Speaker 1: Before this is a right tackle. Festival there's like eight 623 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:17,639 Speaker 1: or nine guys in a popcorn popper to, me BUT 624 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:21,120 Speaker 1: i got two guys that aren't necessarily listed as near 625 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:23,840 Speaker 1: the top in the, draft And i'm going to go to, 626 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:28,200 Speaker 1: here But i'll start With Blake miller Of. Clemson, yeah 627 00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:31,439 Speaker 1: because here's WHAT i. Want here's my definition of WHAT 628 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:33,440 Speaker 1: i want at right tackle in the twenty twenty six. 629 00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:37,880 Speaker 1: Draft give me A Mitchell schwartz. Clone give Me Mitchell 630 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:41,120 Speaker 1: schwartz of the twenty twenty six draft. Class Why Blake 631 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:46,400 Speaker 1: miller From clemson's in? There fifty four, snarts, starts four thousand, 632 00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:50,400 Speaker 1: snaps four thousand crazy all? Right as a, freshman he 633 00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:53,160 Speaker 1: started at right tackle as a true freshman At, clemson 634 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:55,920 Speaker 1: the first time that had. Happens it's nineteen forty, four 635 00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:59,440 Speaker 1: and he did not. Stop he just kept. Rolling, Now 636 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:01,440 Speaker 1: i'm going to give you another one kind of, close 637 00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:04,040 Speaker 1: because these two to, me are very, similar and It's 638 00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:08,600 Speaker 1: Caleb tiernan Of northwestern six seven, tall kind of string bean. 639 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:10,760 Speaker 1: Type he needs to kind of grow into his. Body 640 00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:13,720 Speaker 1: but Think Mitchell schwartz, here Because mitchell had those seven 641 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:18,479 Speaker 1: ninety four directs consecutive, snaps AND i remember coming off 642 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:20,920 Speaker 1: the field At, tennessee And i'm choking tears BECAUSE i 643 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:23,880 Speaker 1: kept giving a snap. Count But Caleb tearning In northwestern 644 00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:26,360 Speaker 1: eight hundred and forty six, snaps gave up one sack 645 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:31,760 Speaker 1: one and the fact that he was just durable with 646 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:36,479 Speaker 1: them forty three starts For northwestern at, tackle and they 647 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:38,080 Speaker 1: played a lot of left. Tackle but he can go 648 00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:40,200 Speaker 1: to the right. Side but those two guys to, me 649 00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:43,840 Speaker 1: are plug and. Play let them. Rip they are shown 650 00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 1: they're durable and tough and Smart Mitchell schwartz and then 651 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:53,240 Speaker 1: and keep in, mind Now i'm just because you got 652 00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:57,000 Speaker 1: to find the swing here and so you keep the 653 00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:59,360 Speaker 1: swing action going. There BUT i would take these two 654 00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:02,479 Speaker 1: guys and look at them as a starting right tackle 655 00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:03,200 Speaker 1: in week. 656 00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 2: One i'm playing tackle in The big ten is no, 657 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:09,280 Speaker 2: joke especially now you're Playing oregon And washington AND usc 658 00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:12,280 Speaker 2: in addition To Ohio state And michigan and all These 659 00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:16,360 Speaker 2: Indiana like it's it's nuts on The Blake miller, NOTE 660 00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:18,560 Speaker 2: i like him a lot too high school, wrestler which you. 661 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:20,800 Speaker 1: LOVE i love. It but, yeah the fact that and 662 00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:24,320 Speaker 1: With Jalen, MOORE i think he'd be like the best swing. 663 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:26,800 Speaker 1: Guy look what he, did and so this isn't a 664 00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:28,400 Speaker 1: knock on. Him this is to put him in the 665 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:31,880 Speaker 1: best spot possible for The chiefs to win football. Games. 666 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:33,960 Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, well and we need, depth. RIGHT i think 667 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:37,560 Speaker 2: last year showed us we need depth on the interior 668 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:41,000 Speaker 2: of our, team so the offensive and defensive, lines we 669 00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:43,720 Speaker 2: need it badly because last year it was tested on 670 00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:45,480 Speaker 2: both sides. Significantly so we're. 671 00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:47,280 Speaker 1: RIGHT i want wrestlers on the offensive. 672 00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:49,200 Speaker 2: Line, Yeah Blake miller was a high school, wrestler WHICH 673 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:52,040 Speaker 2: i Knew mitch would love. Immediately how Wasn't clemson? Better 674 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:54,240 Speaker 2: clemson has so many players who are like first and 675 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:57,480 Speaker 2: second around talents between Like miller And Antonio williams is 676 00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:01,640 Speaker 2: a good, Player Peter, WOODS. Tj parker, obviously and they 677 00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:03,600 Speaker 2: have so many good. PLAYERS i don't know how they weren't. 678 00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:05,760 Speaker 2: Better i'll give you a player who's a little bit 679 00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:08,120 Speaker 2: different than the guys that you talked, about because he's 680 00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:10,600 Speaker 2: more of like a raw player and like a ball of. 681 00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:14,040 Speaker 2: Clay It's Maxi Hannah shore From Arizona. State kind of 682 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:15,920 Speaker 2: reminds me a lot of what we have in Like, 683 00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:20,040 Speaker 2: esapole Even Chew, goderich where it's a very young player 684 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:21,720 Speaker 2: who was new to. Football so that's the case of 685 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:24,600 Speaker 2: The Hannah shore only started playing football in twenty twenty, 686 00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:27,920 Speaker 2: one two years of juco ball before transferring To Arizona 687 00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:32,000 Speaker 2: state in twenty twenty. Three clearly a quick. Learner so 688 00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:35,960 Speaker 2: he's From nigeria originally and played basketball and soccer growing. Up, 689 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:40,040 Speaker 2: again reminds me Of. Chew that athleticism is on full. 690 00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:42,840 Speaker 2: Display you can see that and how he moves thirty 691 00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:44,880 Speaker 2: one starts at right tackle during his time with The 692 00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:48,720 Speaker 2: Sun Devils durable so finished his career with twenty eight straight. Starts, 693 00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:51,600 Speaker 2: again still very raw at the, position like brand new 694 00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:54,680 Speaker 2: to it in a, sense but has some experience for 695 00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:57,680 Speaker 2: a young player and a raw, player and obviously showed 696 00:31:57,720 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 2: some really good. THINGS i think the foundation is there 697 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,200 Speaker 2: for him to be a really good young. PLAYER i 698 00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:03,960 Speaker 2: don't know if he comes in day one and wins 699 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:06,080 Speaker 2: the starting, job BUT i think if you're trying to 700 00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:08,760 Speaker 2: build some depth and trying to build a player up 701 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:11,080 Speaker 2: who was ascending who maybe could be your right tackle 702 00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:12,760 Speaker 2: for years to come once he kind of gets his 703 00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:14,600 Speaker 2: legs under, Him Ihana shore could be that. 704 00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:17,120 Speaker 1: Guy, Yeah i'm all the tackles listed and we know 705 00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:20,520 Speaker 1: when you go down the line And fano and go 706 00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:23,840 Speaker 1: down to the, line this one might have the hana 707 00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:25,840 Speaker 1: try might have the highest ceiling of any of. Them 708 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:27,960 Speaker 1: this is a guy that maybe in three years looks 709 00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:30,440 Speaker 1: like A Pro bowl. Guy, yeah and keep in mind 710 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:32,880 Speaker 1: now they, Won they went to The big Twelve championship 711 00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:35,440 Speaker 1: game and he blocked For Camp. Scatabo so he's been 712 00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:40,200 Speaker 1: around some really good football and some good dudes and 713 00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:44,080 Speaker 1: With tyson At Arizona. State SO i think that's a good. 714 00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:46,080 Speaker 1: Pick that may be more of a projection, one but 715 00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:48,560 Speaker 1: that's what you do when you get down to maybe 716 00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:48,960 Speaker 1: forty or. 717 00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:50,640 Speaker 2: Seven that's the. Thing he's not a player you take 718 00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:53,240 Speaker 2: at number nine or maybe even twenty. Nine but if 719 00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:55,720 Speaker 2: we were able to get him at like forty or beyond, 720 00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:58,240 Speaker 2: that like you're getting a player with a great FOUNDATION 721 00:32:58,360 --> 00:32:59,040 Speaker 2: i think in a lot of. 722 00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:03,080 Speaker 1: Potential, okay we got one more position, group and again 723 00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:08,360 Speaker 1: this episode is we really like these. Guys you can't 724 00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:10,720 Speaker 1: love them until you pick. Them and they're wearing red 725 00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:13,640 Speaker 1: and gold and. White all. Right so the final category 726 00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:18,280 Speaker 1: is defense side defensive, tackle inside. Technique AM i going? 727 00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:19,240 Speaker 1: First you're going? First? 728 00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:21,880 Speaker 2: Okay, Finished i'm going to give you a player who 729 00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:24,560 Speaker 2: is a local guy because we love the local. Guys Dominique, 730 00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:27,720 Speaker 2: Orange Big, citrus a Big. Citrus so he went To 731 00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:30,320 Speaker 2: North Kansas City High, school which is. Run but it's 732 00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:32,160 Speaker 2: not just because he's. LOCAL i think he could help our. 733 00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:34,280 Speaker 2: Team so he's six foot, two three hundred and twenty 734 00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:38,120 Speaker 2: two pounds with long, arms crazy, strength so he benches 735 00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:41,840 Speaker 2: four to fifty squat six fifty at that, size, durable 736 00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:45,600 Speaker 2: played in fifty games over four years At Iowa. State to, 737 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:48,040 Speaker 2: me projects is like a rock solid run defender and 738 00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:50,040 Speaker 2: just like an anchor in the middle of your defense 739 00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:52,480 Speaker 2: as like kind of that nose. Tackle, NOW i know 740 00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:54,920 Speaker 2: we Signed Kiris, tanga AND i think there's some discourse 741 00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:58,720 Speaker 2: out there that we don't necessarily need your classic nose 742 00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:01,400 Speaker 2: tackle kind of guy anymore because we Have. Tonga my 743 00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:04,920 Speaker 2: counterpoint would be that we need depth and we need 744 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:07,920 Speaker 2: as many bodies at the position and players who are 745 00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:10,319 Speaker 2: ascending and can grow into playmakers for us at that, 746 00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:12,839 Speaker 2: position because, again look at the last couple of, years 747 00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:16,200 Speaker 2: particularly last year When Omar Norman locke got, hurt there's 748 00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:18,040 Speaker 2: not a lot of depth at that. Position have to 749 00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:20,439 Speaker 2: go out and Bring Mike panel. Back BUT i would 750 00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:23,680 Speaker 2: love to develop some young players at that. Spot so 751 00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:26,960 Speaker 2: seventeen games, in we're not talking about how we've lost 752 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:29,000 Speaker 2: a whole bunch of players and we're just not nearly 753 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,560 Speaker 2: as effective. THERE i Think Dominque orange is a fun 754 00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:33,680 Speaker 2: player who maybe isn't going to be a BIG sac, 755 00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:36,279 Speaker 2: guy but could be a really solid player in the 756 00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:37,600 Speaker 2: middle of your defense for years to. 757 00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:40,840 Speaker 1: Come, yeah you need at least three in a, rotation hopefully. 758 00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:45,720 Speaker 1: Four in those inside tech guys usually four and mine 759 00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:48,560 Speaker 1: Is Lee hunter Of Texas. Tech, okay he might be 760 00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:51,919 Speaker 1: the most Underrated Texas tech front guy we know About 761 00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:55,480 Speaker 1: David bailey when you look At ramela height. TWO i 762 00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:58,000 Speaker 1: remember When PAT i talked To pattic how many defense 763 00:34:58,080 --> 00:34:59,759 Speaker 1: like guys you have on that? Line he was, like, 764 00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:00,680 Speaker 1: yeah the best. 765 00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:02,640 Speaker 2: Money who would have thought twenty years Ago Texas tech 766 00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:03,840 Speaker 2: would have all these great defensive. 767 00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:07,200 Speaker 1: PLAYERS i think they can Thank pat for. That, Yeah but, 768 00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:09,880 Speaker 1: Anyway Lee, hunter when you look at what he's, done 769 00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:13,480 Speaker 1: and a little bit similar to the engine That Zion young's. 770 00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:16,759 Speaker 1: Got But Lee hunter has been highly. Productive sixty nine 771 00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:20,400 Speaker 1: tackles in twenty twenty three that led ALL fbs defensive 772 00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:24,359 Speaker 1: interior defensive. Lineman he also has the chance thirty one 773 00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:27,959 Speaker 1: tackles for losses the last two. Years so how much 774 00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:31,879 Speaker 1: Did bailey and Did heit get helped Because Lee hunter 775 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:34,080 Speaker 1: was not able to be? Blocked and don't people, go, 776 00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:36,160 Speaker 1: well he's not a scheme. Fit he's a zero tech 777 00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:39,000 Speaker 1: and he plays a three. Four so don't you get, no, no, no, no, 778 00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:41,239 Speaker 1: no this guy can. Play he'll be a one tech 779 00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:44,920 Speaker 1: penetrator that does not forfeit his two gap. Responsibility we 780 00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:46,480 Speaker 1: got to get. You we got old time action, here 781 00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:47,719 Speaker 1: so we're gonna get out this. On i'm gonna give 782 00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:48,399 Speaker 1: you high ON imna mention. 783 00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:49,239 Speaker 2: One, okay let's hear. 784 00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:50,839 Speaker 1: It Tied an elast stouris Of Vanner. 785 00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:53,760 Speaker 2: Bill, yeah, OKAY i love that. Guy i'm just gonna 786 00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:57,480 Speaker 2: say it, said you're loving it in the Charge you're. 787 00:35:57,520 --> 00:35:59,319 Speaker 2: Second yeah that's a good. Point, yeah that's a good. 788 00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:01,960 Speaker 2: Point he had like a forty five inch. Vertical he's. 789 00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:03,719 Speaker 2: Crazy he had over two foot broad. 790 00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:08,160 Speaker 1: Jump, YES i really Like eli. Stars he was a 791 00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:12,920 Speaker 1: four star quarterback. Prospect he comes out as a quarterback. 792 00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:15,520 Speaker 1: Prospect he kind of bounces, around he goes To New 793 00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:18,960 Speaker 1: Mexico state and gets beat out at quarterback By Diego. Pavia, 794 00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:21,239 Speaker 1: yeah who beat him. Out so now he moves the 795 00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:24,640 Speaker 1: tight end and he becomes. This so think About Dalton, kincaid, 796 00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:28,120 Speaker 1: right you go, Down Dalton. Schultz these move tight, ends 797 00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:31,120 Speaker 1: AND i just think a great compliment To kels could. 798 00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:34,080 Speaker 1: EVENTUALLY i don't, Know Eli, Stars. 799 00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:34,840 Speaker 2: I'm with you on. 800 00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:35,799 Speaker 1: That really like. 801 00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:38,440 Speaker 2: It he reminds me of for You royals fans, listening 802 00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:40,640 Speaker 2: it's Like lucas erseg he was like a position player 803 00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:42,600 Speaker 2: and the miners and they're, like, hey why don't you try? 804 00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:45,360 Speaker 2: Pitching he throws like a ninety eight mile por fastball 805 00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:47,600 Speaker 2: Lay this is. Easy the thin thing with stours, like, 806 00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:49,960 Speaker 2: hey why don't you try tight? End when's The John Mackey? 807 00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:51,640 Speaker 2: Award is the top tight end in all of college. 808 00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:53,879 Speaker 2: Football some people are just good at, everything And Eli 809 00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:56,680 Speaker 2: stowers fits that. Category you don't think he'd be productive as, 810 00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:58,680 Speaker 2: achieved he'd be awesome as. Achievement you have me worried 811 00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:01,600 Speaker 2: about The chargers now, Though, yeah. 812 00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:03,680 Speaker 1: All the other thirty. Teams, yeah, okay that's where we're. 813 00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:07,080 Speaker 1: At that's our pre draft. Analysis but know, this we're 814 00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:10,239 Speaker 1: going to have all kinds of draft, coverage including we'll 815 00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:13,240 Speaker 1: be At power And light On thursday night getting ready 816 00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:16,160 Speaker 1: for what is a very very very important twenty Sixth. 817 00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:20,040 Speaker 1: Draft just know this From matt and. Me really like these, 818 00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:25,319 Speaker 1: guys but stop from saying you love them until they're 819 00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:26,399 Speaker 1: wearing a, red, white and girl