1 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:11,880 Speaker 1: March nineteen forty three, and Bulgaria suddenly wakes up to 2 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 1: what being an ally of Nazi Germany really means. A 3 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 1: top secret mission has begun to round up thousands of 4 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:26,480 Speaker 1: Bulgarian Jews. They're being taken to Plovdiv, Bulgaria's second biggest city. 5 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:33,640 Speaker 1: Everyone is terrified. From there, the Jews will be forced 6 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 1: onto trains headed for concentration camps in Poland. But someone 7 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 1: has leaped the secret plan and now there's uproar across 8 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:51,240 Speaker 1: the country. Politicians, intellectuals and leaders from the Orthodox Church 9 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 1: are openly protesting. And just as the guards are about 10 00:00:57,000 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 1: to start loading. 11 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:02,280 Speaker 2: In the middle of the over the way that was stopped. 12 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:06,120 Speaker 1: Michael bar Zoha had Jewish friends who were already on 13 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 1: their way to the rail station and police, you're free. 14 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 1: The police announce the trains pull away empty. There was 15 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 1: only one explanation. Someone must have signed the order to 16 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 1: let those people go. 17 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 2: Somebody had to say stop. 18 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 3: Who was responsible for that? 19 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 2: Then? 20 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 3: Who made that happen? The head of the country, and 21 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:39,399 Speaker 3: who was the head of the country down to him? 22 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 4: Is it? Yeah? Yeah, well Boris is cure. 23 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 1: And if you guessed who it was, you can bet 24 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 1: Hitler did too, and we know the furor is unlikely 25 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 1: to shrug off disobedience. Forgive and forget are not words 26 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 1: in his vocabulary. In Hitler's eyes, King Boris has committed 27 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 1: the ultimate crime. King Boris has saved the Jews, is 28 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:12,919 Speaker 1: the culprit, and is the motive for Boris's murder. Staring 29 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 1: us right in the face from Blanchard House and exactly right, media, 30 00:02:23,120 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 1: this is the Butterfly King. I'm Becky Milligan, Chapter two, Lies, Lies, Lies. 31 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:17,839 Speaker 1: It's nineteen ninety four and we're partying in La. It's 32 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:22,080 Speaker 1: Friday night, and it's a big posh dinner, white tablecloths 33 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:27,079 Speaker 1: and candlesticks and some very decent wine. Everyone's doled up, 34 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:31,400 Speaker 1: well they would be. There's royalty present. 35 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 4: Thank you. 36 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 5: It is our honor tonight to welcome no other than 37 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 5: His Majesty Simeon Saxon. 38 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 6: All I remember is sitting and having dinner. 39 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 7: With the King of Bulgaria. 40 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 3: That's what I remember. 41 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 6: I don't remember what he said. I remember him being charming, 42 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 6: absolutely charming, and so you know, I don't know. 43 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 3: Just very regal. 44 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 1: That's Elaine all the ease. Years on, and she still 45 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 1: can't believe her luck. The seating plan that evening put 46 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 1: her right next to King Simeon of Bulgaria, Boris's son, 47 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:14,120 Speaker 1: the man I've been chatting to in the Royal Palace 48 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 1: in Sofia, Bulgaria's capital. For Elane, this night back in 49 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 1: ninety four was a wonderful evening, one she'll never forget. 50 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 6: Who would not be impressed with a king since I'd 51 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:31,240 Speaker 6: never met a king in my life, So yeah, I 52 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:32,040 Speaker 6: was impressed. 53 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 1: This wasn't just any old party. It was a very 54 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:40,919 Speaker 1: special award ceremony, and Simeon was there to collect a prize, 55 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 1: but not for himself. 56 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:46,359 Speaker 5: Remember someone who for so long has been forgotten, Boris, 57 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 5: the third of Bulgaria. 58 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 1: Simeon was there on behalf of his late father, King Boris. 59 00:04:57,480 --> 00:05:03,039 Speaker 1: And this party is actually a Shabbat celebration Shabbad, the 60 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 1: Jewish day of rest. Pretty Much all the guests here 61 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 1: are Jewish, including Elaine Asa. Her husband is Rabbi Haim Asa, 62 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:15,360 Speaker 1: and he's organized this whole ceremony. 63 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 6: I remember just being our struck because it was just 64 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 6: so beautiful. 65 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 1: The king, who was in partnership with the architect of 66 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 1: the Holocaust, Adolph Hitler, is getting an award from the 67 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 1: La Jewish community. And I'm not the only one who 68 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 1: finds this hard to square because not everyone in the 69 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 1: La Jewish community was invited to this fancy party, and 70 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 1: if they had been asked, many would have declined because well, 71 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:50,719 Speaker 1: not all of them agreed with Rabbi Haim and Elaine 72 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 1: Asa about King Boris. But let's leave that for a 73 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 1: little later. For now, this is Elaine's view, as it. 74 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 6: Is the oracle figure in the story of the saving 75 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:07,280 Speaker 6: of the Jews. He played an important part. Elaine should 76 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:11,600 Speaker 6: know I have proof the King saved my husband. 77 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:15,360 Speaker 1: Well, I think I can safely say we have a 78 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 1: possible motive here. Any friend of the Jews was by 79 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 1: default an enemy of Hitler's. A bit of a backstory. 80 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 1: Elaine met her husband him at summer camp in the US, 81 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 1: but he was Bulgarian born and bred. Sadly, Hyen passed 82 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:34,279 Speaker 1: away a few years ago, so we only get to 83 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 1: meet him through her. But I get the feeling we 84 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 1: all would have liked to have bumped into Hyien back 85 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:40,599 Speaker 1: in the day. 86 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 6: I saw this cute Israeli guy picking corn. You know, 87 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 6: from the waist up. He didn't have anything on and 88 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 6: I sort of fell in love at that moment. 89 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:51,840 Speaker 3: I love that. 90 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 1: So it was pretty much seeing his body start. 91 00:06:56,680 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 3: That was start. 92 00:06:57,720 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 8: It was no. 93 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:01,480 Speaker 6: I have to tell you what real intrigued me. Our 94 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:05,719 Speaker 6: dating was really his sharing his stories, his life stories. 95 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 6: And I was really so intrigued. I mean well, first 96 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 6: of all, Bulgaria. I didn't even know where it was 97 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 6: on the map. I was seventeen, What did I know. 98 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 1: After a few more dates and a very long marriage, 99 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:23,679 Speaker 1: Elaine became well versed on Bulgarian history. At rabbinical school, 100 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 1: Haim wrote his thesis on the Saving of the Bulgarian Jews, 101 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 1: and he spent his life campaigning to get King Boris 102 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 1: the recognition he felt he deserved. 103 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 6: You know, he spoke about this forever, and he found 104 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 6: a space in telling his story, a space to thank 105 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 6: Boris for what he did. 106 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 1: Boris's children, King Simeon and Princess Maria Louisa, have heard 107 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 1: many similar testimonies. They're immensely proud their father defied Hitler. 108 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 9: Bulgarian Jews, many of them that I come across time 109 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 9: in a gain say bless your father's soul and this, 110 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 9: and that he was behind the fact of not extraditing 111 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 9: our Jewish population to camps in Germany. 112 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 8: Orders must have come from him. 113 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 10: Wherever I've gone in my ninety years and come across 114 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 10: Bulgarian Jewish people, I've always had the greatest and most 115 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 10: wonderful welcome Papa and all that. 116 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 8: They all remember it. 117 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:35,600 Speaker 1: But it's saving the lives that the Jews cost. Boris 118 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 1: his own. 119 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 3: This is an amazing building, isn't it. I mean I 120 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:47,840 Speaker 3: never knew it was. Have you been here before, yes, 121 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:48,560 Speaker 3: yes I have. 122 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:51,720 Speaker 1: I love it to try and find out my producer 123 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 1: e J. And I are a little closer to home 124 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:55,719 Speaker 1: than you might imagine. 125 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:56,560 Speaker 11: I love it. 126 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 4: What is it? 127 00:08:57,120 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 1: Sort of it looks like brutalist architect which it's like 128 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 1: all concrete. This is the National Archives in southwest London. 129 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 1: You're probably thinking we're a little bit off patch here, 130 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:12,560 Speaker 1: maybe about one and a half thousand miles off patch, 131 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:15,200 Speaker 1: and that we ought to be looking in the Bulgarian 132 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 1: National Archives. Yes, that would be great, except that the 133 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:27,680 Speaker 1: Bulgarian archives, well they've been stolen. When the Russians ended 134 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:32,440 Speaker 1: their communist occupation of Bulgaria in nineteen ninety one, they 135 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 1: took the National Archives with them. That means that all 136 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:40,560 Speaker 1: those vital records are still in Russia and right now, 137 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 1: I'm sure you're aware. Russia isn't really the kind of 138 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 1: place where journalists can just rock up and go digging 139 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 1: around for information. But there's another paper trail we can follow. 140 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:57,440 Speaker 1: Until Bulgaria joined the Pact with Germany in nineteen forty one, 141 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 1: Britain had an embassy in so and most of the 142 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:06,679 Speaker 1: paperwork from that embassy is now declassified. And here at 143 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 1: the London Archives, somewhere among the millions of records and documents. 144 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 3: I don't know, is it all computerized as well? 145 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:15,679 Speaker 12: It is. 146 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:18,720 Speaker 13: It's a bit fiddly, but it's going to take us 147 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 13: some time, I think, But I think it's worth it. 148 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 12: It's worth it. 149 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, we're reappearing in a couple of weeks, aren't me. 150 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:26,559 Speaker 3: Oh have we got your sleeping though? 151 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 1: This certainly isn't going to be easy. I bet lots 152 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 1: of people can't be bothered to come here. 153 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 3: Actually A look, well I have to drag you obviously. 154 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 1: Obviously I've never bothered before, but not drag exactly. But 155 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 1: I do have a confession. Most of my journalistic scoops 156 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 1: have come through talking to people I put them at 157 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 1: ease and ask the right questions. Then sometimes without even 158 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:56,320 Speaker 1: knowing it, people well they just tell the truth. But 159 00:10:56,440 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 1: when your murder investigation is nearly a century old, eyewitnesses 160 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:04,320 Speaker 1: are a bit thin on the ground. So all we 161 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 1: have is the paper trail, and that's really time consuming. 162 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:13,720 Speaker 1: If we don't find anything, I'll blame you for wasting 163 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 1: weeks in there. Ago, I can't believe we'll find anything. 164 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:19,719 Speaker 13: Of course we will, of course we've all I mean, what. 165 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:21,600 Speaker 3: Kind of things do they having an archived like this? 166 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:24,679 Speaker 13: I mean, you know, documents from the Foreign Office that 167 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:27,839 Speaker 13: have been declassified now that were secret. I'm sure we're 168 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:30,719 Speaker 13: going to find things top secret, I promise me. 169 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 1: Do they also have really secret at the top or 170 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:39,719 Speaker 1: some ultra secret? Although King Boris officially died of a 171 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 1: heart attack, even at the time, the rumors were rife 172 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 1: that he'd actually been poisoned, But what was he poisoned with? 173 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 1: That's where I'm hoping the archives will deliver some clues, 174 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 1: because my own experience of poison is rather limited, unless 175 00:11:57,040 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 1: you count crime fiction. Of course, I've had enough Agatha 176 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 1: Christie books to know that arsenic is always on the 177 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:08,440 Speaker 1: suspect list, but that seems unlikely here because by the 178 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:13,679 Speaker 1: Second World War doctors could detect arsenic pretty quickly. Cyanide 179 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:17,960 Speaker 1: is another famous poison, Agatha Christie's favorite. Quite a few 180 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:21,680 Speaker 1: Nazis used it to kill themselves after the war, including 181 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 1: Hitler's wife. That cyanide leaves a distinctive armored smell, and 182 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 1: again that would have been immediately identified. So I'm looking 183 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 1: for something more sophisticated, a chemical weapon, basically something designed 184 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 1: in a laboratory for a targeted killing. 185 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 3: I think I need a briefing from. 186 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 1: Someone whose knowledge extends beyond detective thrillers, someone who could 187 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:50,479 Speaker 1: at least give me some context as I scan the archives. 188 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:56,240 Speaker 14: My name's hemis Schubrecagordon Myra of expertise is chemical, biological, radiological, 189 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 14: a NIKA characterrorism. 190 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 1: This man knows everything about the state of the art toxins. 191 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:06,679 Speaker 1: Colonel Hamish's ex British Army. He's served in Iraq and Afghanistan, 192 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:10,600 Speaker 1: has worked all over Syria and is currently advising the 193 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:14,560 Speaker 1: Ukrainian government. He's an expert on the history and use 194 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 1: of chemical weapons. 195 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:20,600 Speaker 14: After the First World War, chemical weapons developed into much 196 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 14: more deadly weapons called nerve agents. Which basically destroy your nerves. Now, 197 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:28,680 Speaker 14: Hitler had a vast stock of nerve agents, and he 198 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 14: developed them nerve agents. 199 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 1: But before I get too carried away with this, Boris 200 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 1: was in agony. His organs were failing, and crucially, his 201 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:42,079 Speaker 1: heart shut down. Do nerve agents affect the heart? 202 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 14: These nerve agents do impact your nerves, and your heart 203 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:50,960 Speaker 14: is probably the first thing to break down. So some 204 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:53,840 Speaker 14: sort of nerve agent would seem vaguely to fit the 205 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 14: bill of some of the symptoms that you're mentioning. If 206 00:13:56,200 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 14: it was the Germans, who seemed to be the most likely, 207 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:01,240 Speaker 14: I would have thought it's some out of their chemical 208 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:02,679 Speaker 14: weapon portfolio. 209 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:07,600 Speaker 1: This is significant information. I now have a motive and 210 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 1: a potential means. I just need the archives to give 211 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 1: me some proof that the king somehow fell foul of 212 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 1: a nerve agent. Keywords Boris, King, Boris, Boris. 213 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 3: They don't have to be an order, do there. It's 214 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:25,480 Speaker 3: just a keywords king. You have to do plus or 215 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 3: minus or whatever. 216 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 1: King, Bulgaria, Bulgaria and World War Two? 217 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 3: Right, enter, Oh, good grief? 218 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 8: Quite a few. 219 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:36,920 Speaker 3: Oh great. 220 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:41,360 Speaker 1: While we're waiting for those documents to arrive, let's just 221 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 1: wind back a few years. I want to examine how 222 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:48,880 Speaker 1: Hitler and King Boris became allies, because on the face 223 00:14:48,920 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 1: of it, they certainly don't look like natural bedfellows. Boris 224 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:05,120 Speaker 1: hadn't banked on being in Hitler's camp at all. As 225 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 1: war brewed, he spent months traveling around the European capitals 226 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 1: trying to negotiate a peaceful way out. He knocked on 227 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 1: pretty much every leader's door because Boris knew Bulgaria was 228 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 1: ill prepared for conflict under the ill fated leadership of 229 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 1: his father, Foxy King Ferdinand. It had suffered a brutal 230 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 1: defeat in the First World War. It lost huge tracts 231 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 1: of territory as a result, including Macedonia and the area 232 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 1: known as Thrace. And more than that, says historian Tessa Dunlop, 233 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 1: it lost its army. 234 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 15: Remember, Boris didn't start rearming until about nineteen thirty five, 235 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 15: wasn't allowed to. Bulgara had been totally dearmed. So this 236 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 15: is a dude who's got basically a country without a 237 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:55,160 Speaker 15: protective shell. He has no real soldiers. 238 00:15:55,680 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 3: Why on earth would he want to go to war. 239 00:15:57,960 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 1: Boris was a seasoned soldier, but he was terribly marked 240 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 1: by the brutal conflicts he'd fought in both Balkan Wars 241 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 1: in nineteen twelve and nineteen thirteen, and then the First 242 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 1: World War. When he became king aged twenty four, he 243 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:17,680 Speaker 1: swore he would never allow Bulgarian blood to be spilled again, 244 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:20,760 Speaker 1: which was why at the start of the Second World 245 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 1: War he declared Bulgaria was neutral. But the war spread 246 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:26,800 Speaker 1: like wildfire. 247 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 15: Little Bulgaria was in the middle of a giant world 248 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 15: feed and there's no way on Earth it couldn't get 249 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 15: sucked up into the drama. 250 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 1: Now, this next bit of history is crucial to understanding 251 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:44,560 Speaker 1: who might have killed the king and whether it might 252 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:48,080 Speaker 1: have been Hitler. I'll explain as clearly as I can. 253 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 1: Here's what forced Bulgaria to stop being neutral and put 254 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 1: its slap bang into Hitler's camp. So Germany and Russia 255 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 1: were allies at the start of the war. That suited 256 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 1: Boris just fine. Germany was Bulgaria's biggest economic partner, and 257 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:11,359 Speaker 1: the Soviets had rescued Bulgaria from Turkish occupation only fifty 258 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:15,600 Speaker 1: years back, so the Bulgarians felt an affinity with the Russians. 259 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:20,119 Speaker 1: It was all just about manageable until the summer of 260 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 1: nineteen forty one, when Hitler tore up his non aggression 261 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 1: packed with Russia. 262 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:32,359 Speaker 15: The problem is when Hitler has this idea that actually, nah, 263 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:34,359 Speaker 15: I'm going to head east. You know, I'm going to 264 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:36,440 Speaker 15: build my empire in Russia. I'm going to kick down 265 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 15: the rotten door. And that means Boris has to get 266 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:42,520 Speaker 15: off the neutrality tyrope. He's got to call it. Is 267 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 15: it going to be Germany or is it going to 268 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:45,439 Speaker 15: be the USSR? 269 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:49,560 Speaker 1: And the crunch point came when Hitler decided he fancied 270 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 1: his chances in Greece. There was only one route, and 271 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:57,720 Speaker 1: that was straight through Bulgaria. Boris now had to pick 272 00:17:57,760 --> 00:17:58,160 Speaker 1: a side. 273 00:17:58,880 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 3: Look at the map. 274 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:02,640 Speaker 15: Need to get to Greece, okay, to shore up the Italians. 275 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:04,240 Speaker 15: How are they going to get there? They've got to 276 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 15: put boots on the ground and they've got to go 277 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 15: through Bulgaria. Better they go through as friends than his enemies. 278 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:09,240 Speaker 8: We know what. 279 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:11,359 Speaker 15: Happens if you're Germany's enemy. 280 00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:12,159 Speaker 2: We already know that. 281 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 15: By nineteen forty one. 282 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:18,679 Speaker 1: Bulgarian historian George bos Duganov spells out the stark choice 283 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:20,000 Speaker 1: facing King Boris. 284 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 4: The journals have only one question, frank or four. 285 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:29,879 Speaker 11: They don't care what Bulgarian king is thinking about at all, right, 286 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:31,640 Speaker 11: friend or four? 287 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 1: So Boris had two options, resist Hitler, knowing that he'd 288 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:42,240 Speaker 1: invade anyway and accept the consequences of that would be brutal, 289 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:47,440 Speaker 1: or give in and save all that bloodshed. His daughter, 290 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 1: Princess Maria Louisa is certain he made the right choice. 291 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:55,160 Speaker 10: Had we opposed Germany, there would have been nothing left, 292 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 10: as they did to other countries in Europe, run us 293 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:05,720 Speaker 10: over kill a bonisam. It was no choice, absolutely no choice, 294 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:08,040 Speaker 10: absolutely choice. 295 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:14,240 Speaker 1: So to protect his country, King Boris chose Germany. He 296 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:18,119 Speaker 1: signed a pact with Germany, Italy and Japan in March 297 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 1: nineteen forty one, and from that moment on Boris was 298 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 1: a marked man. Overnight he became an enemy of the Allies. 299 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:37,400 Speaker 1: Oh right, here we go at the Q Archives in London. 300 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 1: The first batch of the documents we called up has arrived. 301 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:45,160 Speaker 1: There's a whole bunch of declassified telegrams and letters from 302 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:50,399 Speaker 1: Sir George Rendall to the Foreign Office marked secret. Rendell 303 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 1: was the British ambassador to Sofia during the war. He 304 00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 1: seemed to get on well with Boris, but when the 305 00:19:56,640 --> 00:20:00,480 Speaker 1: King signed that pact with Hitler, Rendall was curious. 306 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:03,680 Speaker 3: He freaked out. He felt the King did. 307 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:06,000 Speaker 1: Have a choice about throwing in his lot with Hitler, 308 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:09,480 Speaker 1: and now that the Nazis were walking the streets of Sofia, 309 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 1: Rendell was panicking. He was stuck in enemy territory and 310 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:16,879 Speaker 1: he wanted to go home. He demanded permission to break 311 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:22,360 Speaker 1: off all ties with Bulgaria immediately. In one particular document, 312 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:23,639 Speaker 1: he's pretty dramatic. 313 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 14: Bulgaria had not only been able to prevent the burglar 314 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:30,680 Speaker 14: of from entering, but had opened the window to him 315 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:32,360 Speaker 14: and beckoned him in. 316 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 3: A few days. 317 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 1: Later, the British embassy in Sofia was closed and Rendall 318 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 1: left the country for good. The Allies certainly gave Boris 319 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:46,879 Speaker 1: the cold shoulder, but whether he liked it or not, 320 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:50,440 Speaker 1: the new found friendship with Germany meant the King would 321 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:55,000 Speaker 1: get plenty of FaceTime with Hitler, and at first glance, 322 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 1: the King seemed very happy to hang out with the 323 00:20:57,320 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 1: Fura and his henchmen. Boris would sometimes go hunting and 324 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 1: shooting with them. He spoke perfect German, of course, remember 325 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:13,720 Speaker 1: his father Ferdinand was German. And whenever the King met 326 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 1: Hitler it was all big smiles and handshakes and slaps 327 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:19,880 Speaker 1: on the back, a real bromance. 328 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:25,639 Speaker 4: Or was it only on film footage? They are friends 329 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:26,960 Speaker 4: only in film footage. 330 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:30,160 Speaker 1: So if they didn't share a friendship, did they share 331 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:31,119 Speaker 1: an ideology? 332 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 4: He's very clever in the blomacy. 333 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 1: Now, George Bosduganov isn't just a historian, He's Bulgaria's leading historian. 334 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:43,919 Speaker 3: He's unbelievably learned. Now. 335 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 1: I've done my best. I've digested all the books out 336 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:50,639 Speaker 1: there on King Boris and the Second World War, but 337 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:53,400 Speaker 1: it's fair to say that I'm not quite as up 338 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:56,960 Speaker 1: to speed as mister bos Duganov on the minutii of 339 00:21:57,040 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 1: Balkan history. And I get the impression that sometimes frustrates him, 340 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:05,880 Speaker 1: like when he grits his teeth and asks for a time. 341 00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:12,200 Speaker 4: Out, maybe a little break, of course. 342 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:12,920 Speaker 7: Yes. 343 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:18,200 Speaker 1: Luckily, my producer EJ's on hand to back me up. 344 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:21,440 Speaker 1: I can always rely on her, so if I can, 345 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 1: just I'm not recording me yet, Lory's fine. 346 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:28,679 Speaker 2: I thought we were on a break. No, we're not 347 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:29,200 Speaker 2: on a break. 348 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 3: Now, are you ready to go? 349 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 16: Now? 350 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:32,960 Speaker 4: Where? 351 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 1: Eventually we all get on the same page. No, yeah, no, no, no, 352 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:42,040 Speaker 1: what do you mean now? 353 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 2: Right? 354 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:47,800 Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah, yeah. 355 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:50,639 Speaker 10: Uh. 356 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:54,200 Speaker 1: Finally I get to ask my question. 357 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:58,680 Speaker 3: Was he a Nazi. 358 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:04,479 Speaker 4: More? Never? Not at all? He has never been a 359 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 4: Nazi fan. 360 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:09,280 Speaker 3: Never did he make that clear to Hitler. 361 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 11: Boris would be afraid to make this very clear to 362 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:17,959 Speaker 11: Hitler because of the Hitler's power. 363 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:19,720 Speaker 4: Everybody in the world. 364 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:23,919 Speaker 11: Was afraid by Hitler Inlish, true British, true, of course. 365 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:28,920 Speaker 1: So this alliance between Hitler and Boris was because. 366 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:32,320 Speaker 4: Have not choice, really absolutely have not choice. 367 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:35,520 Speaker 1: But Hitler hoped the king was on side with the 368 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:40,040 Speaker 1: whole Nazi project. Boris walked the walk, and he walked 369 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:40,640 Speaker 1: it well. 370 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:44,360 Speaker 15: He wasn't intimidated by the fury, He wasn't intimidated by Hitler. 371 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:47,679 Speaker 15: He is more politically experienced in many levels than Hitler is, 372 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:50,679 Speaker 15: but he is an incredible political operator. 373 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:54,639 Speaker 3: So I mean kind of, I mean sly, Hitler says. 374 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 15: Hitler says of Boris, he had never met a politician 375 00:23:58,600 --> 00:23:59,920 Speaker 15: as intelligent and shrew. 376 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:04,560 Speaker 1: Now that's interesting because I've read that Hitler's nickname for 377 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:09,400 Speaker 1: Boris was the Fox, not Foxy like his father Ferdinand, 378 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 1: but the Fox, which suggests to me that he had 379 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 1: Boris's number, and Hitler was right to be suspicious. King 380 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 1: Simeon is sure his father joined the Axis the alliance 381 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 1: with Germany only through political expediency, not because he shared 382 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:27,960 Speaker 1: Nazi values. 383 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 9: I think he distrusted Hitler deeply with good reason. So 384 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:42,160 Speaker 9: to join the Axis was not any love of Hitler 385 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:46,199 Speaker 9: or because our family is of German origin. But this 386 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:51,480 Speaker 9: is what happens in these extreme situations in war time. 387 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:56,399 Speaker 1: And according to Simeon, Boris's nickname for Hitler was the 388 00:24:56,520 --> 00:25:03,199 Speaker 1: big dirty swine? Did Hitler know that? What we do know, 389 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:05,960 Speaker 1: of course, is that Hitler always took revenge on those 390 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:10,439 Speaker 1: who displeased him. Colonel Hamish de Breton Gordon is our 391 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:14,719 Speaker 1: expert on chemical weapons like nerve agents. He tells me 392 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:17,399 Speaker 1: that by the time Boris died in the summer of 393 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:22,159 Speaker 1: nineteen forty three, Hitler had a whole pharmaceutical empire of 394 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:23,880 Speaker 1: poisons at his fingertips. 395 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:28,359 Speaker 14: We do know the Nazis developed nerve agents, starting off 396 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 14: with Sonning called Soman, then Tavern and then Saren, which 397 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:37,840 Speaker 14: you know the Syrian Regimus used recently in Syria. Now, 398 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:42,359 Speaker 14: the sad thing to say is actually they are morbidly 399 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:45,439 Speaker 14: brilliant weapons, and if you had no morals or scruples, 400 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:46,760 Speaker 14: you'd use them all the time. 401 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:49,679 Speaker 1: I think we'd be hard pushed to find anyone who 402 00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:53,760 Speaker 1: could defend Hitler's morals and scruples. So nerve agents do 403 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:55,040 Speaker 1: seem to fit the bill. 404 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:58,439 Speaker 14: If it's the Germans who seem most likely, it'd probably 405 00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:00,960 Speaker 14: be something out of their chemical factory. 406 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:05,199 Speaker 1: So if it's nineteen forty three and you want to 407 00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:07,879 Speaker 1: kill a head of state and you have access to 408 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:12,919 Speaker 1: a whole stock of sophisticated synthetic weapons, why wouldn't you 409 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:15,600 Speaker 1: use them, especially if you thought you could get away 410 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:15,960 Speaker 1: with it. 411 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:22,200 Speaker 14: The idea behind using deadly toxins and chemicals is actually 412 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:26,119 Speaker 14: they're very difficult to attribute. There's a lot of uncertainty, 413 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:30,119 Speaker 14: there's a lot of deniability. So if it was the 414 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:33,520 Speaker 14: Nazi s kill Boris but didn't want to be directly 415 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:36,720 Speaker 14: fingered by it, because actually they were supposed to be allies, 416 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:39,480 Speaker 14: they were supposed to be working together. If you don't 417 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:42,600 Speaker 14: want to be found out, then certainly some eyes is 418 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:45,320 Speaker 14: that you would use a toxin that would do that. 419 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:48,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, they were certainly supposed to be allies who were 420 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:52,879 Speaker 1: supposed to be working together. But the problem is, it 421 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:56,800 Speaker 1: turns out Boris just kept on refusing to play by 422 00:26:56,840 --> 00:27:02,960 Speaker 1: the rules. Boris canceled the deportation of the Jews in 423 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:08,160 Speaker 1: March nineteen forty three and sent those trains away. Hitler 424 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:11,920 Speaker 1: ordered Boris to Germany to have a little chat, or rather, 425 00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:17,280 Speaker 1: he gave him a stiff talking to. Hitler insisted all 426 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:21,000 Speaker 1: Bulgaria's Jews must now be rounded up and sent to 427 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:27,240 Speaker 1: Poland by the autumn. So Boris did something quite extraordinary, 428 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:31,679 Speaker 1: something that might well have cost him his life. He 429 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:34,880 Speaker 1: pretended to be on the same page as Hitler when 430 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:40,040 Speaker 1: it came to the Jews. Basically, he gas lit him. 431 00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:43,880 Speaker 2: The King sir, I'm dying to send in my one 432 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:47,119 Speaker 2: percent way II God blame these people. 433 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:52,000 Speaker 1: But then the King told Hitler unfortunately he couldn't send 434 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:56,680 Speaker 1: the Jews away as they were otherwise engaged in forced labor. 435 00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:01,320 Speaker 7: The King sir, but I need them for building roads 436 00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:02,639 Speaker 7: and railroads. 437 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:05,960 Speaker 2: And that was the biggest bluff of the Second World War. 438 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:12,680 Speaker 1: Boris's bluff saved Michael Barzowhau's family. Michael is a writer 439 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:16,399 Speaker 1: and former politician who now lives in Israel. Forgive the 440 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:18,760 Speaker 1: audio quality, but zoom was the only way I could 441 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:22,399 Speaker 1: get to speak to him, and he's certainly worth speaking to. 442 00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:27,720 Speaker 1: He was just a young boy in Bulgaria when the 443 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:32,800 Speaker 1: king invented his fictitious road building scheme. Every able bodied 444 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:35,720 Speaker 1: Jewish man in Michael's town was to be sent to 445 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:39,240 Speaker 1: camps in the countryside, away from the prying eyes of 446 00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:41,360 Speaker 1: the Nazis, out of harm's way. 447 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:46,040 Speaker 2: I think Boris told them, now, we are going to 448 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:53,320 Speaker 2: mobilize all the able Jews men to labor camps, and 449 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:57,600 Speaker 2: by doing that, we are going to prevent the sending 450 00:28:57,640 --> 00:28:58,640 Speaker 2: of the Jews. 451 00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:02,240 Speaker 1: To pot And the King's scheme worked. 452 00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:06,600 Speaker 2: And indeed they mobilized the Jews to the labor camps. 453 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:09,480 Speaker 2: My father was one of them. 454 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:13,640 Speaker 1: According to Michael, his father's life in the camp was 455 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:18,440 Speaker 1: not exactly arduous. He often played cards and socialized with 456 00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:24,120 Speaker 1: his Bulgarian guards. Now this was hardly a holiday. These 457 00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:27,600 Speaker 1: men had been forced to leave their homes and families 458 00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:36,040 Speaker 1: behind and their livelihoods completely uproot themselves. Not easy, but 459 00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:40,480 Speaker 1: it was still a far cry from a Nazi concentration camp. 460 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:46,240 Speaker 16: I have pictures with the camp drinking together, singing together, 461 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:50,760 Speaker 16: and it was unbelievable because they did not work very 462 00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:54,920 Speaker 16: hard for these camps. They didn't build any railroads. Jing 463 00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:57,680 Speaker 16: Boris was played here a very very subtle game. 464 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:01,600 Speaker 2: He bluffed. He was a very wily man. 465 00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:05,120 Speaker 1: Now, nobody likes to be made a fool of. And 466 00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:07,680 Speaker 1: we know that Hitler clocked what Boris was up to 467 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:13,360 Speaker 1: because his henchmen visited the camps and reported back. So 468 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:17,560 Speaker 1: in May nineteen forty three, the deportation trains destined for 469 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:23,120 Speaker 1: Poland were prepared again. All that was needed was Boris's signature, 470 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:30,480 Speaker 1: if only someone could find him. It was a public 471 00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:36,440 Speaker 1: holiday in Bulgaria. As usual, crowds flocked to the city 472 00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:39,560 Speaker 1: center to see the king waving on the palace balcony. 473 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:44,600 Speaker 1: But Boris didn't show for three whole days. He went missing, 474 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:47,800 Speaker 1: and all the while the train drivers were waiting for 475 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:55,680 Speaker 1: their orders. In fact, the Butterfly King had holed himself 476 00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 1: away in his beloved mountains, and a few years ago, 477 00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:03,440 Speaker 1: Michael bars Oha tracked down the man who helped him disappear. 478 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:07,120 Speaker 2: I found the driver. He was a simple man. 479 00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:11,040 Speaker 1: The chauffeur told Michael that the king didn't leave his 480 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:15,600 Speaker 1: mountain hut for three days, and while he was hiding inside, 481 00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:19,280 Speaker 1: Boris confessed his worries to him and his valet. 482 00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:24,320 Speaker 12: He told him, I'm very much afraid that I might 483 00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:27,600 Speaker 12: get a phone call from Berlin to carry out a 484 00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:31,480 Speaker 12: certain operation. And I know very well if I get 485 00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:35,959 Speaker 12: this phone call, I can't refuse. So I decided to 486 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:42,760 Speaker 12: be for a few days in Communicado to be unreachable. 487 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:47,360 Speaker 1: And just in case that wasn't clear. Michael saying that 488 00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:50,800 Speaker 1: the King deliberately cut himself off so that he couldn't 489 00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:55,280 Speaker 1: receive orders from Hitler about deporting Bulgaria's Jews on the trains, 490 00:31:56,320 --> 00:32:00,120 Speaker 1: and without the King's signature and say so, no one 491 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:05,480 Speaker 1: had the authority to load those trains. When Boris came back, 492 00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:09,440 Speaker 1: he quickly evacuated all the remaining Jews to the countryside. 493 00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:14,280 Speaker 1: The elderly, the women and children, including Michael, were all 494 00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:18,120 Speaker 1: sent away out of reach of the Gestapo who were 495 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:22,440 Speaker 1: billeted in the capitol. How many Jewish people from mainland 496 00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:29,520 Speaker 1: Bulgaria were deported to camps, concentration camps, death camps in Poland? 497 00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:40,000 Speaker 3: Not even one, not one. 498 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:43,360 Speaker 2: No one, of course, not There was not one Bulgarian 499 00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:44,240 Speaker 2: jum was reported. 500 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:49,000 Speaker 1: Forgive the skeptical journalist in me, but I need to 501 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:55,560 Speaker 1: check that fact myself, because it is pretty incredible. Bulgaria's 502 00:32:55,600 --> 00:33:00,440 Speaker 1: pre eminent historian, George Bosdiganov, always has the fact and 503 00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:02,440 Speaker 1: figures at his fingertips. 504 00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:09,400 Speaker 11: Not a single Jews, Bolgarian on foreigner a living in 505 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:14,040 Speaker 11: the Kingdom was killed or departed from the country to 506 00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:20,640 Speaker 11: the Nazi camps. Neither one, no one, no, not one. 507 00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:26,000 Speaker 1: And for George, that makes Boris a legend. 508 00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:45,800 Speaker 11: King boris third Bolgarian national hero of twenty century. 509 00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:53,840 Speaker 1: It's extraordinary, such an incredible act of resistance, especially when 510 00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:58,200 Speaker 1: you remember Bulgaria was an official ally of Nazi Germany 511 00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:04,160 Speaker 1: and that the Gestapo the Bulgarian streets. Of course, not 512 00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:08,400 Speaker 1: everyone tells these stories in quite the same way, because 513 00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:13,279 Speaker 1: the definition of a hero is never universal. It's very 514 00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:18,239 Speaker 1: very personal, and as we'll hear in the next episode, 515 00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:23,479 Speaker 1: every hero is someone else's villain. But you can bet 516 00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:28,720 Speaker 1: Hitler wasn't rushing to congratulate Boris. Quite the opposite, although 517 00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:32,680 Speaker 1: since Boris had gone so far off message, why bother 518 00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:37,240 Speaker 1: with subterfuge? I mean, why didn't the Nazis just cut 519 00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:40,839 Speaker 1: their losses and shoot him. 520 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:44,279 Speaker 14: There would be no plausible defense. I mean, there's not 521 00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:47,520 Speaker 14: much clausible defense anyway, But I think that's the point. 522 00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:52,080 Speaker 1: Our weapons expert, Colonel Hamish de Breton Gordon thinks assassination 523 00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:56,640 Speaker 1: with a nerve agent is about much more than deniability. 524 00:34:56,760 --> 00:35:01,040 Speaker 1: It's also about scaring the living daylights out of everybody 525 00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:01,799 Speaker 1: around the king. 526 00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:07,080 Speaker 14: These weapons are incredibly effective because of their psychological impact. 527 00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:10,400 Speaker 14: So half the message, or probably more than half the 528 00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:14,279 Speaker 14: message in these assassinations is to other people, you know, 529 00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:17,600 Speaker 14: trying to tell anybody else who wanted to oppose the regime, 530 00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:20,799 Speaker 14: you know, we'd get the same thing, and it's it's 531 00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:22,520 Speaker 14: incredibly effective at doing that. 532 00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:29,200 Speaker 1: Anyone who witnessed Boris's awful and prolonged death would have 533 00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:34,080 Speaker 1: felt distinctly uncomfortable, especially if the word poison was whispered 534 00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:37,799 Speaker 1: in the sick room. But how could Hitler have administered 535 00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:44,760 Speaker 1: the poison without Boris noticing? Remember that plane that Boris 536 00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:47,239 Speaker 1: took to meet Hitler for the last time, the one 537 00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:50,040 Speaker 1: that took him right into the Wolf's Lair, Hitler's top 538 00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:53,960 Speaker 1: secret base in Poland. It's also the one little Simeon 539 00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:57,280 Speaker 1: was so excited to see when it landed back in Sofia. 540 00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:02,560 Speaker 1: Here's some key evidence. It wasn't a Royal jet, it 541 00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:06,640 Speaker 1: wasn't even Bulgarian. It was a German plane, and it 542 00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:12,680 Speaker 1: belonged to Hitler. I've read a few history books which 543 00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:16,520 Speaker 1: mention the following story. On the way home from the 544 00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:21,280 Speaker 1: Wolf's Lair, the king was subdued, but after a moment, 545 00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:24,600 Speaker 1: he left his seat and went into the cockpit. You'll 546 00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:28,200 Speaker 1: remember how keen he was on all things mechanical, and 547 00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:31,640 Speaker 1: he asked the pilot if the plane could climb a 548 00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:34,920 Speaker 1: little higher to see if the altitude would affect his 549 00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:37,480 Speaker 1: ears the way it did when he went climbing in 550 00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:44,759 Speaker 1: the mountains. The pilot agreed, and that's when the oxygen 551 00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:49,080 Speaker 1: masks were handed out. So what if that's how Hitler 552 00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:54,480 Speaker 1: did it, substituting oxygen for some sort of poisonous gas 553 00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:55,800 Speaker 1: in Boris's mask. 554 00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:59,040 Speaker 14: Actually, if it was a nerve age and he breathed 555 00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:01,800 Speaker 14: it in, it would probably kill him pretty quickly. 556 00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:05,840 Speaker 1: Well, Boris died fourteen days after he returned from that 557 00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:09,280 Speaker 1: meeting with Hitler. Could it have been a delayed reaction 558 00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:10,280 Speaker 1: to sign my gas? 559 00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:13,520 Speaker 14: For instance, if you breathe stuff in, it's going straight 560 00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:16,120 Speaker 14: to your lungs, your lungs straight to your bloodstream, your 561 00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:19,560 Speaker 14: bloodstream straight to your heart. So if they wanted a 562 00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:24,040 Speaker 14: delayed reaction, they would probably want a dermal ingestion, in 563 00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:27,160 Speaker 14: other words, through the skin. If it was a nerve 564 00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:31,719 Speaker 14: agent on an oxygen mass type of thing, then that 565 00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:35,560 Speaker 14: scenario I would think would be less likely with the 566 00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:37,000 Speaker 14: outcome that we know happened. 567 00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:41,400 Speaker 1: But here's something I learned from. Simeon and Maria Louisa 568 00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:47,399 Speaker 1: are two living links to these events. Boris's sister Eudoxia 569 00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:52,160 Speaker 1: told them that she was sure the Nazis burned his lungs. 570 00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:56,600 Speaker 1: So Boris's children carefully examined this theory. 571 00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:01,279 Speaker 9: My aunt herself, she thought that it was the oxygen 572 00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:04,440 Speaker 9: mask that my father used on his way back. But 573 00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:08,760 Speaker 9: apparently in those days there was no poison which would 574 00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:14,960 Speaker 9: work with six days delay. So there we explode another story. 575 00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:18,799 Speaker 10: You know, it's a myths because in those days they 576 00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:22,040 Speaker 10: put the oxygen masks to everybody on the plane, you know, 577 00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:25,200 Speaker 10: so the other people should have, you know, had the same. 578 00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:30,319 Speaker 1: In fact, Maria Luisa tracked down the German pilot many 579 00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:34,560 Speaker 1: years after the war. He promised her that poisoning via 580 00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:38,640 Speaker 1: an oxygen mask would have been impossible because his allegiance 581 00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:42,120 Speaker 1: was clearly to the Bulgarian king rather than to Hitler. 582 00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:45,640 Speaker 1: He claimed he'd never have let those pigs, as he 583 00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:50,360 Speaker 1: called the Gestapo, anywhere near the plane, let alone the cockpit. 584 00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:56,359 Speaker 1: But a strange detail about that plane journey raises further questions. 585 00:38:56,960 --> 00:39:01,080 Speaker 1: According to the pilot's account, Boris him health became wary 586 00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:04,880 Speaker 1: when the oxygen masks came out, and he insisted on 587 00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:09,440 Speaker 1: swapping his own mask with the pilots. That seems odd, 588 00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:13,200 Speaker 1: to say the least. Did he suspect Hitler was trying 589 00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:17,640 Speaker 1: to kill him, because, according to accounts from advisers, when 590 00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:20,239 Speaker 1: the King arrived home, he didn't rush to see his 591 00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:23,359 Speaker 1: family as he usually did. He went to see a 592 00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:26,680 Speaker 1: close friend who was a former chief of cabinet, and 593 00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:29,720 Speaker 1: he told that friend that he'd had a terrible meeting 594 00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:33,319 Speaker 1: with Hitler, which he knew would cost him dearly. I 595 00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:37,080 Speaker 1: saved Bulgaria, he said, even if I will pay for it, 596 00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:41,359 Speaker 1: which of course he did with his life. 597 00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:43,640 Speaker 3: Colonel Hamish has his own theory. 598 00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:48,680 Speaker 14: Maybe they thought Boris was an annoyance and wasn't helping things, 599 00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:52,120 Speaker 14: and if they killed him. Actually, others in the Bulgarian 600 00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:56,560 Speaker 14: higher command and raw family might be more sympathetic towards 601 00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:57,000 Speaker 14: the cause. 602 00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:03,040 Speaker 1: You see, hadn't just duped Hitler over the Jews, He'd 603 00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:10,680 Speaker 1: also conned him over the war. Hitler was desperate for 604 00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:13,720 Speaker 1: support on the Eastern Front, where the Germans were fighting 605 00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:17,960 Speaker 1: a losing battle with Russia, and Hitler wanted that backup 606 00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:21,920 Speaker 1: from the Bulgarian army. But Boris had made a promise 607 00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:26,080 Speaker 1: when he first ascended the throne. He promised he'd never 608 00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:28,280 Speaker 1: send another Bulgarian soldier to war. 609 00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:33,560 Speaker 11: He refused absolutely, He refused to send troops on the 610 00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:36,040 Speaker 11: Russian Front or any other front. 611 00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:37,759 Speaker 3: Not only that. 612 00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:43,040 Speaker 1: In fact, historians George Bosdiganov and Tessa Dunlop say Boris 613 00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:46,080 Speaker 1: was doing far more dangerous things and refusing to hand 614 00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:52,000 Speaker 1: over his army. King Boris was actively trying to swap sides. 615 00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:59,480 Speaker 15: He already is having conversations back channels, exist conversations about 616 00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:03,439 Speaker 15: possibly getting clear blue water from the Nazis. 617 00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:05,520 Speaker 3: Did he try? Did he try to? 618 00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:07,520 Speaker 4: Yes, he try, Yes, he tried. 619 00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:11,360 Speaker 11: In the spring of nineteen forty three, a Sir Boris 620 00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:16,759 Speaker 11: began talks with Americans in Switzerland for complete withdrawal of 621 00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:22,400 Speaker 11: Bulgaria from the war, which he was enable to complete 622 00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:24,960 Speaker 11: due to his sudden death. 623 00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:29,960 Speaker 1: So Boris was having secret meetings with the US. 624 00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:34,520 Speaker 7: If it got Win learned about it, he had to 625 00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:38,880 Speaker 7: stop it. And the way to stop it was one looking, 626 00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:42,840 Speaker 7: because nobody else but the key was shaping the foreign policy. 627 00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:48,480 Speaker 1: As writer Michael bar Zohars, Hitler almost certainly did get 628 00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:53,439 Speaker 1: wind of those talks. The Nazis had spies everywhere, which 629 00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:57,040 Speaker 1: is probably why that final meeting between Boris and Hitler 630 00:41:57,600 --> 00:42:03,040 Speaker 1: was so brutal. It's August nineteen forty three, and we're 631 00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:07,360 Speaker 1: back in the Wolf's Lair for eight whole hours. The 632 00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:12,440 Speaker 1: fewer rages at the Bulgarian King, and according to eavesdroppers 633 00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:16,040 Speaker 1: listening outside the door at the Wolf's Lair, Hitler goes 634 00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:22,719 Speaker 1: absolutely crazy. You don't need to speak German to understand 635 00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:28,920 Speaker 1: this friendship is floundering. But Boris speaks perfect German, which 636 00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:31,359 Speaker 1: means he's on his own in that room, with not 637 00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:35,400 Speaker 1: even an interpreter to take the sting out of Hitler's words. 638 00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:41,360 Speaker 1: It's rumored things got so heated that Hitler even swung 639 00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:45,520 Speaker 1: a punch, but Boris won't give an inch. He won't 640 00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:48,680 Speaker 1: send Bulgarian soldiers to fight Russia on the Eastern Front. 641 00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:52,879 Speaker 1: He won't send Bulgarian Jews to the death camps. As 642 00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:56,040 Speaker 1: far as Hitler was concerned, that wasn't the deal. That 643 00:42:56,160 --> 00:43:00,120 Speaker 1: wasn't the deal at all. And Hitler feels betrayed. And 644 00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:03,760 Speaker 1: no one likes feeling they've been taken for a ride. 645 00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:07,960 Speaker 1: But Adolf Hitler has been taken for a ride. So 646 00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:11,640 Speaker 1: when his royal guest leaves, Hitler doesn't bother to wave 647 00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:17,440 Speaker 1: him off yet this is the final goodbye. Boris doesn't 648 00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:21,719 Speaker 1: know it yet, but he has barely two weeks left to. 649 00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:29,720 Speaker 10: Live, right, little corner are there. 650 00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:31,600 Speaker 3: Let's sit down. 651 00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:36,680 Speaker 1: Back at the National Archives in London. We've had some 652 00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:41,160 Speaker 1: more luck. Actually it could be a big breakthrough. The 653 00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:45,680 Speaker 1: librarians have pointed us towards the Churchill Archives Center in Cambridge. 654 00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:50,799 Speaker 1: They've just emailed us a very interesting document. Remember how 655 00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:54,480 Speaker 1: the king lay dying surrounded by scores of doctors and specialists. 656 00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:58,239 Speaker 1: This is a parenthlet written by some library society or 657 00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:04,400 Speaker 1: historical society ten years after Boris had died. Okay, and 658 00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:10,279 Speaker 1: you know those doctors who were there, it says here 659 00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:12,839 Speaker 1: the latter appeared to have been of opinion that it 660 00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:14,080 Speaker 1: was no natural death. 661 00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:15,719 Speaker 3: No natural death. 662 00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:19,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, And then it says here a little bit further down, 663 00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:26,840 Speaker 1: according to private pronouncements of the official Physician of the court, 664 00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:32,000 Speaker 1: the cause of death was subsequently ascertained as a strange 665 00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:36,480 Speaker 1: poison of Asiatic origin. 666 00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:41,200 Speaker 3: Well, we've not heard that before, have we? Asiatic? I mean, 667 00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:41,960 Speaker 3: that's crazy. 668 00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:46,840 Speaker 1: And there's even more salient information in the pamphlet, something 669 00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:51,680 Speaker 1: which makes my blood go cold. They right here that 670 00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:56,680 Speaker 1: that particular poison paralyzes the muscular system of the heart 671 00:44:57,680 --> 00:45:02,200 Speaker 1: and shows symptoms resemble sort of heard attack cardiac areas 672 00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:05,440 Speaker 1: or whatever. And because it looks like that, it could 673 00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:08,600 Speaker 1: obviously be mistaken for that, you know. 674 00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:10,279 Speaker 3: I mean I've never heard of that. I mean, what 675 00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:11,080 Speaker 3: does it mean? 676 00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:12,760 Speaker 13: I know, what's asiatic poison? 677 00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:13,520 Speaker 7: Asiatic? 678 00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:18,120 Speaker 13: I mean, Bulgaria's next to Turkey. Yeah, he's half in Asia. 679 00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:23,560 Speaker 13: But how do they know it was Asiatic? Hang on 680 00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:27,160 Speaker 13: that that's really important because that means they must have 681 00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:32,080 Speaker 13: found a trace of it and examined it. Yeah, I mean, 682 00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:34,719 Speaker 13: everything else we've just read said he was poison. But 683 00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:40,160 Speaker 13: if they're saying it's a specific poison to Asia. I 684 00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:44,200 Speaker 13: think you're really onto something there. Seriously, I do think 685 00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:44,800 Speaker 13: this leads. 686 00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:45,960 Speaker 3: It is a lead. 687 00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:46,239 Speaker 4: It is. 688 00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:54,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, let's just wind back a minute, back to the 689 00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:58,440 Speaker 1: summer of nineteen forty three. A few days after his 690 00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:01,720 Speaker 1: highly stressful meeting, Boris took his family for a breather 691 00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:04,759 Speaker 1: in the mountains. It was the school holidays, so the 692 00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:10,040 Speaker 1: days seemed long and carefree. On the Monday, though, Boris 693 00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:12,720 Speaker 1: told his family he had to leave them and return 694 00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:16,320 Speaker 1: to Sofia for work. What he didn't tell his wife 695 00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:19,759 Speaker 1: or his children was that he was feeling ill. But 696 00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:23,360 Speaker 1: Boris had already told his brother that his heart was 697 00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:27,239 Speaker 1: thumping and that he felt nauseous. It was a few 698 00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:30,680 Speaker 1: more days before his children found out, and at first 699 00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:32,560 Speaker 1: they weren't told the full story. 700 00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:36,279 Speaker 9: My sister and I drew some painting. I think I 701 00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:39,360 Speaker 9: drew a little plain or something with my sister some flowers, 702 00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:42,560 Speaker 9: and we sent some mountain flowers to him, but not 703 00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:49,239 Speaker 9: suspecting or knowing that he was so gravely ill. And 704 00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:51,520 Speaker 9: then on Saturday he passed away. 705 00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:56,439 Speaker 10: We were told he was quite ill. Then my mother 706 00:46:56,480 --> 00:47:00,640 Speaker 10: of course went down to be there, and on the 707 00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:05,880 Speaker 10: Saturday afternoon, we were out in the country in the mountains, 708 00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:10,240 Speaker 10: and when we came back, the radio was not working. 709 00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:13,160 Speaker 10: The nanny said, of course, they had pulled the black. 710 00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:19,160 Speaker 8: And then we. 711 00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:22,799 Speaker 10: Told that Papa was very very ill, so, you know, 712 00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:27,879 Speaker 10: very ill, we should maybe go to Sofia. And then 713 00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:32,000 Speaker 10: my father's sister, my Auntie Dorsa, came and she was 714 00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:37,440 Speaker 10: dressed in black, and she said it, and I still 715 00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:41,880 Speaker 10: didn't believe it. So we drove into Sofia and I 716 00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:45,120 Speaker 10: saw black flags hanging in front of the buildings, and 717 00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:48,200 Speaker 10: then you know, I knew it. 718 00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:53,200 Speaker 1: Six year old Simeon couldn't get his head around what 719 00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:57,399 Speaker 1: had happened until his father's right hand man or aide 720 00:47:57,440 --> 00:48:01,600 Speaker 1: de camp, approached him. 721 00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:06,600 Speaker 9: My father's ADC came up to me and he addressed 722 00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:12,240 Speaker 9: me as your majesty, not your highness, as was the usual. 723 00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:17,120 Speaker 9: And that's when I suddenly realized, my god, I mean 724 00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:20,680 Speaker 9: he's addressing me like the king. 725 00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:23,960 Speaker 8: I e my father has passed away. 726 00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:31,759 Speaker 1: I'm more and more convinced that Hitler was behind King 727 00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:35,280 Speaker 1: Boris's death. And as I've told you, that was aunt 728 00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:38,960 Speaker 1: you doxy as hunch too. She always blamed the Nazis 729 00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:45,400 Speaker 1: for murdering her brother. Could Hitler have paid someone to 730 00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:50,600 Speaker 1: administer poison asiatic poison? What about one of the doctors 731 00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:54,000 Speaker 1: or nurses who were treating King Boris? What do we 732 00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:59,160 Speaker 1: actually know about those doctors? There were sixteen doctors in 733 00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:02,879 Speaker 1: that sick room. Thirteen of them signed the death certificate, 734 00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:05,280 Speaker 1: but three didn't. 735 00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:09,680 Speaker 11: They are concertos that they are well known and will 736 00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:13,400 Speaker 11: established names with international. 737 00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:16,719 Speaker 1: In all so, surely we can identify these doctors if 738 00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:19,640 Speaker 1: they enjoy worldwide acclaim. 739 00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:24,560 Speaker 4: First that they are not Borgaeis. No, they're German doctors. 740 00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:30,360 Speaker 1: And that's when King Simeon drops a bombshell, aren't you? Doxia, 741 00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:34,480 Speaker 1: who always suspected the Nazis killed her brother, left Simeon 742 00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:38,520 Speaker 1: and Maria Louisa a very special letter penned by her 743 00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:42,560 Speaker 1: own hand, to be read only after her own death. 744 00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:47,960 Speaker 9: It's about twenty pages and hands written, and she left 745 00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:50,440 Speaker 9: it in an envelope in Germany when she died in 746 00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:54,960 Speaker 9: eighty five, with a huge sort of with a marker 747 00:49:55,280 --> 00:50:00,720 Speaker 9: on the envelope to be given to Simeon married Louise 748 00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:05,080 Speaker 9: after my death, and there of course her all her 749 00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:09,360 Speaker 9: first hand impressions aren't you. 750 00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:12,480 Speaker 1: Dot here places a distinct question mark over one of 751 00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:16,120 Speaker 1: the doctors who attended Boris in his final hours. 752 00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:23,640 Speaker 9: She was sort of pointing or saying that this doctor 753 00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:29,560 Speaker 9: Zeites Rudel Zaide's who came from Berlin, was I mean, 754 00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:33,480 Speaker 9: there was something suspicious about him. 755 00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:36,640 Speaker 1: And there wasn't just one German doctor but three at 756 00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:37,799 Speaker 1: the bedside of the king. 757 00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:38,560 Speaker 3: Well. 758 00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:42,600 Speaker 1: One was Austrian but a known Nazi sympathizer, three of 759 00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:46,520 Speaker 1: them tending to King Boris, who's just betrayed the German 760 00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:55,080 Speaker 1: Feura Adolf Hitler motive means and opportunity accept. 761 00:50:55,239 --> 00:51:00,320 Speaker 15: People like you journalists in excavating the archives pptunity together 762 00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:04,680 Speaker 15: and make the wonderful five that is Nazis. Blame it 763 00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:08,480 Speaker 15: all on the Nazis, It's not always all the Nazi's fault. 764 00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:12,120 Speaker 1: Have I let my imagination run away with me? Historian 765 00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:16,279 Speaker 1: Tessa Dunlops certainly thinks I'm jumping to conclusions. 766 00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:20,719 Speaker 15: I commend you, Becky for having swallowed homeless bolus so 767 00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:23,200 Speaker 15: much of what's been written about this. But you are 768 00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:25,560 Speaker 15: seeing what you want to see. You're looking around the 769 00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:27,720 Speaker 15: room and you're only seeing swashtikas. 770 00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:30,640 Speaker 1: Am I just framing the most obvious suspect in the lineup. 771 00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:33,719 Speaker 15: Why would you take out the one man who might 772 00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:35,920 Speaker 15: not have gone as far as you wanted him to go, 773 00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:39,920 Speaker 15: but has remained consistently loyal in his support. I would 774 00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:43,000 Speaker 15: suggest that was even madder than Hitler was by nineteen 775 00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:43,520 Speaker 15: forty three. 776 00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:47,920 Speaker 1: From a historical perspective, I know that Hitler needed all 777 00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:50,080 Speaker 1: the friends he could get at this point in the war, 778 00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:53,759 Speaker 1: So I accept that logically it doesn't make sense to 779 00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:58,120 Speaker 1: murder your ally. But that's exactly my point. Why does 780 00:51:58,120 --> 00:52:00,840 Speaker 1: there have to be logic where Hitler's can concerned he 781 00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:04,360 Speaker 1: was insane? But the Palace doesn't seem to be backing 782 00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:09,080 Speaker 1: my theory either. Perhaps I'm being oversensitive or our King 783 00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:12,720 Speaker 1: Simeon and Maria Louisa giving me a gentle ticking off. 784 00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:16,200 Speaker 9: One thing disturbs me terribly is when I see people 785 00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:18,200 Speaker 9: being not objective. 786 00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:20,160 Speaker 8: I like objectivity. 787 00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:24,040 Speaker 9: All these things, as I say, are simply theories or 788 00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:26,400 Speaker 9: hypothesis or just fantasy. 789 00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:31,520 Speaker 8: But there's nothing prasional. I have no proof. I'm convinced 790 00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:35,680 Speaker 8: it wasn't. It wasn't a dramas. 791 00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:45,560 Speaker 1: Next time on the Butterfly King, we delve deep into 792 00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:47,120 Speaker 1: Asiatic poisons. 793 00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:52,080 Speaker 11: It was some kind of poison from India, probably slake poison. 794 00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:56,120 Speaker 2: That is what he had heard from the doctors. 795 00:52:56,800 --> 00:53:00,160 Speaker 1: We find a new lead as a snake in the grass, 796 00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:02,000 Speaker 1: its ugly head in Asia. 797 00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:06,600 Speaker 14: Tropical Asia has a horrendous snake bite death rate every year. 798 00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:12,400 Speaker 11: The snake venoms are complicated cocktails of different toxins. 799 00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:16,920 Speaker 1: And Boris's squeaky clean image takes a battering as we 800 00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:21,320 Speaker 1: hear dark stories about his very controversial legacy. 801 00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:27,040 Speaker 4: It's a story, it's a falsifying history. 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