1 00:00:07,520 --> 00:00:09,440 Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Sabor, a protection of I Heart 2 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:12,200 Speaker 1: Radio and Stuff Media. I'm Anny and I'm Lauren bog Obam, 3 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:16,080 Speaker 1: and today we're talking about m R Es. Yes, Mr 4 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:19,639 Speaker 1: E the meal ready to eat meal comma ready to eat. 5 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:23,160 Speaker 1: Really entertained by the comma. Yeah, I like the comment too. 6 00:00:23,239 --> 00:00:26,159 Speaker 1: That's a nice, nice touch. And I have had some 7 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 1: of these courtesy of a friend. Yeah, and they're about 8 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 1: what do you would expect? Okay, I would say, are 9 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:34,880 Speaker 1: they like civilian version or did you get the oh, 10 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 1: you know, the actual military version, and like allegedly is 11 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 1: that during the research it seems like that might not 12 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:44,480 Speaker 1: have should happened, but it did happen, But it did. 13 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 1: And I will not say was the person and do 14 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:51,880 Speaker 1: not try to figure it out. Well, I I wasn't 15 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 1: gonna to be super honest. I mean I didn't think so, 16 00:00:55,920 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 1: but I just had to think that it's very stern warning. No, yes, no, 17 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:05,120 Speaker 1: it's very very important. Um. And I have not had 18 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 1: one of these, yeah, I mean not even a civilian one. 19 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:11,960 Speaker 1: Not even a civilian one. Ben Bolan is like a 20 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:15,679 Speaker 1: little bit obsessed with them. And uh, and so I 21 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 1: think at some point we were going to try one 22 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 1: on snack stuff, but we never got it together to 23 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:26,399 Speaker 1: order them. Well, there is still time, There's always time. 24 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 1: They last for up to three years. Wow. Every time 25 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 1: I do that, I think of a Win Wilson because 26 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 1: coworker Chandler, he always makes fun of me when I 27 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:43,040 Speaker 1: say that anywhere anyway branks us to our question, mrs 28 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 1: what are they? Well? And m R E is a 29 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 1: modern version of military food and Drink rahs for deployed 30 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 1: service members. They come in pouches and contain a meal 31 00:01:57,400 --> 00:02:00,120 Speaker 1: plus usually a number of drink flavorings and snack. Is 32 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 1: meant to provide up to a day's worth of nutrition 33 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 1: in a single little packet. Mhmm. These days Mr e's 34 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:11,080 Speaker 1: have several requirements. Long lasting, can survive a variety of 35 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:16,800 Speaker 1: weather conditions, and being parachuted in light as flavorful as possible, 36 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:20,520 Speaker 1: the right amount of calories and nutrients or approximately able 37 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:22,360 Speaker 1: to be eaten cold or come with a way to 38 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:25,240 Speaker 1: heat it, and by parachuting in by the way that's 39 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 1: up to one two hundred feet or air dropped from 40 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:32,520 Speaker 1: a helicopter no parachute up to a hundred feet, which 41 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 1: is UM three D sixty six orty respectively. Yeah. Here 42 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 1: in the US, in order to figure out how to 43 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:46,360 Speaker 1: make this happen, we've got a Combat Feeding Directorate, which 44 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:48,680 Speaker 1: is part of a number of research teams within the 45 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:55,919 Speaker 1: Massachusetts Native Soldier Research Development and Engineering Center. Yes, it's 46 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:59,800 Speaker 1: in a town called Nating, Yeah. Um, and they have 47 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 1: their work cut out for them, y'all. Um. Preserving food 48 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 1: tends to mess with the flavors and textures and simultaneously 49 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 1: destroy some of the nutrients in it. So coming up 50 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:11,360 Speaker 1: with something that is well preserved and also you know 51 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:15,080 Speaker 1: that anyone would still want to eat. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 52 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:16,800 Speaker 1: we touched on that a little bit in our Space 53 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 1: food right absolutely. And a lot of the research that 54 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 1: has gone into creating military m r e s has 55 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 1: also gone towards the space program. It's a lot of 56 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 1: very similar teams. Um. There is also those side industry 57 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 1: of technology that's compatible with military vehicles but not necessarily 58 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 1: developed by the military, that can be used to like 59 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 1: heat or chill water and a number of m r 60 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 1: e s simultaneously. Essentially like a crock pot that you 61 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 1: can just plug right into your tank. M hmm. Yeah, 62 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 1: that's a fun image. It's a very militaristic little crock pot. 63 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 1: I like it, okay uh. Nutrition wise, m r eas 64 00:03:55,400 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 1: are carefully balanced for recommended intakes of macronutrients. You're fat, protein, carbs, 65 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 1: possibly fiber. A lot of them are pretty light on 66 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 1: fiber though, um. And also micronutrients your vitamins and minerals 67 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 1: and stuff, and these things will fill you up and 68 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 1: keep you going. They are designed to do that thing. 69 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 1: They do tend to have higher than the recommended intake 70 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 1: of sodium, but you know, as do a lot of 71 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 1: packaged and preserved foods. Yes, um. The number of calories 72 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:26,839 Speaker 1: per pact depends on the recommended intake for the particular 73 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 1: deployment situation. In the US that the meals are set 74 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 1: around one thousand, two hundred calories, and sometimes the whole 75 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:36,839 Speaker 1: pouch could contain about thirty six hundred calories in total 76 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:40,360 Speaker 1: all the snacks included. There are supplements for extreme conditions, 77 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:42,719 Speaker 1: though um, I read that Afghanistan m R e s 78 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 1: may contain a supplement to put them at forty six 79 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:47,600 Speaker 1: hundred calories due to the rigor of working in all 80 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:51,280 Speaker 1: that heat. And yes, that's a lot military personnel move 81 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:59,600 Speaker 1: around a bunch carry heavy packs, do stuff athleticism. There 82 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 1: are currently twenty four options of m R e's in 83 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 1: the US, ranging from pork rib and clam chowder to 84 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 1: beef patty and nacho cheese pretzels. As of the U 85 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 1: S military was buying thirty six million m R e 86 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:14,480 Speaker 1: s every year. From one story I read, depending on 87 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 1: the army, the quality of the m R E or 88 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 1: the that equivalent vary. So for example, one French ration 89 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 1: is worth five American m R E like on the 90 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 1: black market. Like yeah, Like if we were in a 91 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 1: luxury situation and you've got some gushers and I have 92 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 1: I don't know, stad chips that I just real I 93 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 1: really like gushers. Not everyone would agree with that. Oh sure, well, 94 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 1: I mean this is why trading could happen. Um. I 95 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 1: read a piece for Vices Munchie's Division by one David Wheelan, 96 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 1: who was reporting on what does appear in several different 97 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:53,360 Speaker 1: countries m R E s or did as of sixteen ish. 98 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 1: The French one was by far the most fancy. Um. 99 00:05:56,440 --> 00:06:00,480 Speaker 1: They had duck com feete, dear patte and snacks, chocolate 100 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 1: yogurt in theirs. Confit I know, I'm not sure how 101 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:10,279 Speaker 1: they did it. It's impressive. UM. In the US, the 102 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:14,359 Speaker 1: main dishes are still mostly Italian, perhaps because tomato based 103 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 1: sauces are acidic enough to UM to really help along 104 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 1: the preservation process. UM snacks include stuff like cheese, spicy cheese. 105 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:26,919 Speaker 1: It's spicy cheese. It's specifically like important thing. Oh it is, 106 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:30,919 Speaker 1: We'll come back to that, UM, blueberry cobbler, bread, peanut butter, 107 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 1: and caffeine infused beef jerkey. Interesting. I agree. Britain's mains 108 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 1: include the aforementioned clam chowder and chicken tecamasala, plus extras 109 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:49,040 Speaker 1: like taifou tea and breath mints. Yeah. One of my favorite, 110 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:53,360 Speaker 1: one of my favorite brands. So good. UM Norway's dishes 111 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 1: include measly and a range of stews, cod, beef, and chicken, 112 00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 1: plus fruit gummies for dessert. There with you on the 113 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:06,280 Speaker 1: gush your um. Whelan reports that Italy's packs range more 114 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 1: Frenchish than italian Ish in flavors and stuff. He didn't 115 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 1: include any any specifics, but he did say that they 116 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 1: include at alcohol, breakfast shot. Oh, breakfast shot. It's a 117 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 1: breakfast shot. Yeah, well sure, sure sure. Columbia's got a 118 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 1: lot of rice and beans. Dishes, and um, this warm 119 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 1: sweet cheese drink which sounds like like a warmer cotta 120 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 1: milkshake to me. I don't know, it sounds really good. 121 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 1: He didn't seem to share about it, but I was like, yes, 122 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 1: warm cheese drink, I'll take it. And now South Korea 123 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 1: includes Beaming Bop and Kim Chee in their rations, and 124 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 1: Japan reportedly has hamburgers, hot dogs, and a range of 125 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 1: curries with pound cake for dessert. Wow. I wouldn't have 126 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 1: pegged that. I know, right, that's a weird, weird American 127 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 1: americanization over there. And m R. E superstition, superstitious superstition. 128 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 1: Every now and then charms candy appears in an m R. E. 129 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 1: And the superstition goes that this is very bad luck, 130 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 1: and eating it is even worse luck. The candy is 131 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 1: usually tossed, even if the soldier who received it doesn't 132 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 1: fin into it, because other soldiers around him sure don't 133 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 1: want that. No, not at all. Um. Those soldiers often 134 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:36,199 Speaker 1: call m R. E's meals rejected by everyone, meals resembling edibles. 135 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 1: Meals refused by the enemy are meals rarely edible. They 136 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 1: have come a long way as part of what I 137 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:46,720 Speaker 1: hope is like a larger movement to acknowledge that service 138 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 1: members are people with psychological wants and needs. Um, A 139 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:52,559 Speaker 1: lot of research has been done into how to make 140 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 1: rations not just nutritionally adequate, but sensually acceptable or even better, 141 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:00,319 Speaker 1: especially over time. Given that the range of what someone 142 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:03,319 Speaker 1: finds acceptable on day like three is a lot wider 143 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:06,319 Speaker 1: than what they'll find acceptable on week three. That is 144 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:09,719 Speaker 1: a science fact um. And from a practical standpoint, I mean, 145 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:11,719 Speaker 1: if people don't like the food, they might not eat 146 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:15,079 Speaker 1: it and their performance capacity and morale will decrease. But 147 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 1: stuff like flavor preferences is being explored now. It's a 148 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:23,559 Speaker 1: it's a really interesting intersection of science and technology and psychology. Absolutely, 149 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 1: we'll get into the history, but first we have a 150 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 1: quick break for a word from our sponsor, and we're back. 151 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 1: Thank you sponsor, Yes, thank you. What rations to give 152 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:45,680 Speaker 1: soldiers has been a problem throughout our history. I feel 153 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 1: like it comes up in every that we do, and 154 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:52,719 Speaker 1: also what we have given soldiers, especially in our more 155 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:55,840 Speaker 1: modern history, has gone on to shape food landscapes of 156 00:09:55,880 --> 00:10:00,559 Speaker 1: civilians like spam, craft, graf cheese, benjamine, chocolate, hip cookies. 157 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:05,320 Speaker 1: Emminem's long before that, though. As long as there have 158 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 1: been soldiers, we've had to come up with ways to 159 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:12,200 Speaker 1: feed them. There's a saying, often misattributed to either Napoleon 160 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 1: or Frederick the Great um an army like a serpent 161 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 1: goes on its belly. M both did say wise and 162 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:22,600 Speaker 1: similar things about food being important for armies. But I 163 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:25,720 Speaker 1: think a clever writer came up with that particular maxim 164 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:29,720 Speaker 1: and hat tipped to a quote investigator dot com for 165 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 1: investigating it. Roman armies hunted whatever they could um. Some 166 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 1: records suggest that soldiers were given rations up to a 167 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:41,079 Speaker 1: pound of meat a day. If true, that suggests that 168 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 1: they would travel with massive herds of sheeps, sheeps, sheeps, 169 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 1: sure yes, or pigs. We've talked about various foods like 170 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 1: garlic or wine or springs of water that were believed 171 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 1: to endow strength and or determined where armies would camp. 172 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:59,200 Speaker 1: Widely viewed as the first permanent professional army, the rations 173 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:02,079 Speaker 1: of the romanly genneras consisted of two pounds of bread 174 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 1: along with meat, olive, oil, and wine. Ancient Egyptian soldiers 175 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:11,720 Speaker 1: described rations as quote meager and unpleasant. Spartan soldiers sometimes 176 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 1: subsisted off of something called black broth, which was boiled pigs, legs, 177 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 1: blood and vinegar. Medieval soldiers received salted fish, beer or wine, stew, 178 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 1: and bread. During the Crusades, crusaders sometimes lost battles because 179 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:30,720 Speaker 1: they stopped to eat once arriving to a Muslim camp. 180 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 1: Christian soldiers typically had a supply of grains and dried meat. 181 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:37,319 Speaker 1: Anything else like cheese or dried fruits and vegetables they 182 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 1: bought themselves locally. On top of that, during the First Crusades, 183 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:43,959 Speaker 1: soldiers had to provide for themselves, which meant a lot 184 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 1: of them had to mortgage their property or sell their belongings. 185 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm sure they were hungry. Um that did 186 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 1: change with deals between merchants and military fleets. Let's talk 187 00:11:56,440 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 1: about the army of Gangis Khan. Yes, during the third century. 188 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:03,880 Speaker 1: The Mongols similarly couldn't carry much with them, and what 189 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:06,319 Speaker 1: they did carry they brought from home all out of 190 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:10,320 Speaker 1: their sustenance, like wine they got locally. They too, brought 191 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:13,200 Speaker 1: herds of livestock like sheep and cows with them as 192 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 1: they traveled, and they supplemented this with cured meat, mare's milk, 193 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:21,200 Speaker 1: both fresh and fermented dried cheese curd and they would 194 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 1: hunt when necessary. Jumping ahead to the seventeenth century and 195 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 1: the Ottoman Empire, the janissaries the Sultan's foot soldiers had 196 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:33,840 Speaker 1: a better deal. Their rations included fresh bread or biscuits, 197 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 1: a daily ration of meat, usually lamb or mutton, as 198 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:41,600 Speaker 1: well as vulgar rice, honey and coffee, and party for horses. 199 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:45,079 Speaker 1: Records show that one hundred and five ovens in Istanbul 200 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 1: were dedicated to baking biscuits for the soldiers. Apparently, some 201 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 1: folks accused bakers of keeping the flour for themselves, replacing 202 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 1: it with dirt in their biscuit baking, which resulted in 203 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 1: the deaths of several soldiers. Oh no, I know once 204 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 1: he goes that baguettes, the shape particularly were developed so 205 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 1: that soldiers could transport them along the legs of their pants. 206 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 1: Worth for the research. Absolutely. Feeding soldiers was a major 207 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 1: headache for George Washington and other officials during the American 208 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 1: Revolutionary War. Since Congress couldn't really tax people at the time, 209 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 1: they didn't have any money to buy rations for soldiers. 210 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 1: On top of that, they were dogged by transportation difficulties. 211 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:33,360 Speaker 1: This meant soldiers sometimes would go without food four days, 212 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 1: and when they did have food, it was frequently wheat 213 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:39,319 Speaker 1: and some meat that often had gone bad. Congress did 214 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:43,800 Speaker 1: pass uniform rations in one pound of beef or salted 215 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 1: fish are three fourth pound of pork, one pint of milk, 216 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 1: one pint of spruce beer. This was to combat scurvy 217 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 1: or cider um, some molasses, and one pound of bread 218 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 1: or flour a day per week, one point of rice, 219 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 1: and three pounds of beans or peas. Some soldiers received 220 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 1: four ounces of room for their rations. However, this didn't 221 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 1: happen all the time. Um, they put the rules in place, 222 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 1: but that didn't mean their troubles went away. Washington ignored 223 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:15,560 Speaker 1: Congress's suggestion that they take stuff from colonists and a 224 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:19,320 Speaker 1: version of iou. He didn't think it would endear them 225 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 1: to anyone when trying to form a new country. Oh yeah, 226 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 1: now I can I can see that. Yes, yes, Also 227 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 1: this is a popular well not pot. I don't know. 228 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 1: It's a in a Hamilton's song, is what I was 229 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 1: trying to say. This whole struggle with feeding the soldiers. Yeah. 230 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 1: During the War of eighteen twelve, soldiers started planting gardens. 231 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 1: At military bases and outpost. And I know what you're thinking, 232 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 1: what about Napoleon. Well, we'll tell you the rations allotted 233 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:50,480 Speaker 1: to his army, where one half pound of meat, twenty 234 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 1: four ounces of bread, up to two ounces dried peas 235 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 1: or lentils, a quart of wine, equal amounts brandy and vinegar. 236 00:14:57,720 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 1: But that too, rarely happened. They frequently resorted to potatoes 237 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:03,800 Speaker 1: and corn, which were pretty much ready to eat, though 238 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:07,360 Speaker 1: not very tasty straight out of the ground. The eighteen 239 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 1: sixty one Military Handbook and Soldiers Manual of Information provided 240 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 1: information on cooking large amounts of food for soldiers stationed 241 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 1: at forts. Rations for Union soldiers during the American Civil 242 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:21,200 Speaker 1: War included three or four pounds of meat, a pound 243 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 1: of either corn mill or wheat, some vegetables, vinegar, and molasses. 244 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 1: This didn't last too long, though, hardtack biscuits, dried meat, 245 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:33,920 Speaker 1: and vegetables became more than norm coffee, which was replaced 246 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 1: by rum um in some cases. As we discussed in 247 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 1: the past episode, coffee became extremely difficult to procure, especially 248 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 1: in the South. Oh yeah, um. As they marched south, 249 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 1: they got some crops locally, and they also received care 250 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:51,080 Speaker 1: packages from home. Yeah, coffee. Around this time, there was 251 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 1: a whole thing of of people trying to figure out 252 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 1: how to technologically produce coffee that soldiers could take with them. Uh, 253 00:15:57,960 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 1: you know, we didn't have freeze drying yet, so some 254 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:04,440 Speaker 1: kind of preservation of some kind of coffee concentrate purportedly 255 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:08,359 Speaker 1: the very worst tasting coffee that anyone has ever had. Um, 256 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 1: I know that's a coffee that I know, me too. 257 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:18,120 Speaker 1: I'm like, really, have you been to England? Like England, 258 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:21,120 Speaker 1: even though we usually get America usually gets very pretty good. 259 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:25,479 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, I mean I've also sure yes, Um, 260 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 1: there there is a quote from a from a French 261 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 1: marshal Um mcmahone. I think it might also be misattributed. Um, 262 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:37,000 Speaker 1: what vast events depend upon an army's not going into 263 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 1: action before it has had its coffee? Oh, shaping the 264 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 1: future objectory of nations? Right? Well anyway, yes, anyway was 265 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 1: the year we saw the first industrialized ration, the iron 266 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 1: ration three ounces of beefcake, some chocolate, and salt and pepper. 267 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 1: Canned food used for rations, made their first appearance in 268 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:08,000 Speaker 1: the Spanish American War in but there are problems due 269 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:11,680 Speaker 1: to improper ceiling. The foods frequently spoiled. We also talked 270 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 1: about this in our canned food episode um and how 271 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 1: Napoleon and his need to feed his soldiers pushed along 272 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:21,920 Speaker 1: this innovation. By World War One, the canned food situation 273 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 1: was much improved. Canned meats and vegetables crackers the soldiers 274 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:30,200 Speaker 1: dubbed dog biscuits. Soldiers in the trench might receive hot 275 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:32,679 Speaker 1: meals made in the field and transported to them via 276 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:37,000 Speaker 1: these big milk cans suspended on a pole between two soldiers. 277 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:40,359 Speaker 1: They got tobacco and half a pound of candy every 278 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 1: ten days. World War two, soldiers got one of two 279 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:49,400 Speaker 1: types of rations. Combat troops got, conveniently named Sea rations 280 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:54,639 Speaker 1: Ration Combat Individual and the lighter, more easily transportable K Rations. 281 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:58,960 Speaker 1: Originally designed for paratroopers. Sea rations had six containers poor 282 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:02,360 Speaker 1: crate and two un it's the B unit and the immunit. 283 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:07,160 Speaker 1: The B unit consisted of things like bread, sugar, and coffee, 284 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:10,520 Speaker 1: while the IM unit consisted of eleven different meat and 285 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:14,439 Speaker 1: vegetable options. Example of what you find in their canned 286 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:20,040 Speaker 1: fruit frank and beans, instant coffee, chocolate slash fudge, processed cheese, crackers, 287 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:25,040 Speaker 1: chewing gum, toilet paper and cigarettes in a matchbox and 288 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:28,320 Speaker 1: I can opener. Yeah yeah, we talked about that in 289 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:31,160 Speaker 1: our can opier episode as well. Um. These were designed 290 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:34,400 Speaker 1: to deliver three thousand, six hundred calories and pretty much 291 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 1: everyone hated them. Um throw back to our spam episode. 292 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 1: Lots of throwbacks in this one. Like we said, it 293 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:45,320 Speaker 1: has impacted a lot as the war raged on soldiers 294 00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:48,880 Speaker 1: sometimes would get things like Bouleon powdered lemon, sweetened cocoa 295 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 1: wooden spoon. There was also the A Ration which were 296 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 1: like the Choice A plus rations. They were fresh refrigerated 297 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 1: our frozen food and be Ration foods packaged foods prepared 298 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:06,680 Speaker 1: in the mess hall or field kitchens. Of that commercial 299 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:12,879 Speaker 1: candy popular option was Eminem's packaged in cardboard tubes. According 300 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:18,919 Speaker 1: to the Eminem's website, Forest Mars Sr. Yeah, that Mars. 301 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 1: That Mars got the idea for Eminem's after witnessing soldiers 302 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:25,720 Speaker 1: during the Spanish Civil War. Even pieces of chocolate coated 303 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:29,240 Speaker 1: with a hard coat too of sugar to prevent melting. 304 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:34,960 Speaker 1: Eminem's are still popular in rations as our skittles. Then 305 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 1: we see the m c I Meals Combat Individual or 306 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:41,399 Speaker 1: Sea rats as the rations for American soldiers from nineteen 307 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:44,680 Speaker 1: fifty eight to one, and this was a cardboard box 308 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:47,119 Speaker 1: of one thousand, two hundred calories, composed of things like 309 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:51,440 Speaker 1: canned meat, canned bread more often crackers, her biscuits, and 310 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:55,520 Speaker 1: canned dessert like apple sauce or peaches, lots of cans, 311 00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:58,679 Speaker 1: and these cans weren't the easiest to carry around, so 312 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:02,040 Speaker 1: soldiers would frequently take apart the box and put the 313 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:05,120 Speaker 1: cans in their socks, which they would then hang from 314 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:08,800 Speaker 1: their packs to cook meals. Some soldiers punched a hole 315 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 1: in their canned foods and heated it for sea four. Indeed, 316 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 1: oh um yeah. There there were main courses like ham 317 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:23,960 Speaker 1: and eggs, the aforementioned means at Frank's, and permutations of spam. 318 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 1: That sounds like a modern art piece, It does, and 319 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 1: I want it. The folks at Mickelhenny sent soldiers mini 320 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 1: bottles of tabasco with recipe books to soldiers. Tabasco became 321 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:39,359 Speaker 1: so popular that British ration packs sometimes contain it today. 322 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:45,360 Speaker 1: Wow yeah. In the discovery of new freeze drying techniques 323 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:48,359 Speaker 1: led to the creation of food packet Long Range Patrol 324 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 1: The l r P. And these were used for longer 325 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:54,560 Speaker 1: missions and referred to freeze dried entrees that were pre 326 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 1: cooked and could be reconstituted in the field. They were expensive, however, 327 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 1: and did not stick around long, so they needed a replacement. 328 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:08,200 Speaker 1: In the US government tapped civilian scientist Dr Abdul Rahman 329 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 1: to come up with one, and what he came up 330 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:14,240 Speaker 1: with was an easily transportable, flexible pouch filled with a 331 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:19,080 Speaker 1: dehydrated complete meal. The m R HE was recognized with 332 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:22,840 Speaker 1: the Meritorious Civilian Service Award. The U. S Department of 333 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:25,879 Speaker 1: Defense instituted the m R E as official combat rations 334 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 1: in nineteen seventy five, with the large scale production getting 335 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:31,919 Speaker 1: underway a couple of years later in nine eight, and 336 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:37,040 Speaker 1: delivery of m R E one began in one Then 337 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 1: they started field testing in and the consensus amongst soldiers 338 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:44,640 Speaker 1: consuming three m R E s a day was basically, 339 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:50,040 Speaker 1: they're fine, but they ate only around six of the calories, which, 340 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 1: like you said, learned, is a problem. But when they 341 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 1: redid the survey on the same divisions the same soldiers 342 00:21:56,800 --> 00:22:00,680 Speaker 1: thereabouts in nine six, they found the m R E's 343 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 1: were more highly rated and more highly consumed Frankfurter's. However, 344 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 1: we're called the four Fingers of Death now. They came 345 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:16,359 Speaker 1: in little, four little links per package, four Fingers of Death. Nonetheless, 346 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 1: the d D did make a lot of changes with 347 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:21,120 Speaker 1: the nineteen batches of m R E s packaged as 348 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:24,240 Speaker 1: m R E eighteen. Serving sizes rose from five ounces 349 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:28,440 Speaker 1: to eight ounces. Nine of twelve entrees changed, commercial candies 350 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:32,160 Speaker 1: and hot sauces very key were added to four menus 351 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 1: each and basis for cold beverages added to all twelve. 352 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:40,119 Speaker 1: In the early days of Operation Desert Storm, more changes 353 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:42,960 Speaker 1: were made based on soldier feedback. M R E ten 354 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:47,480 Speaker 1: replaced the old spray dried coffee with freeze dried coffee, 355 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:51,480 Speaker 1: Hot sauces added to all twelve options, and commercial candy 356 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:54,680 Speaker 1: was added to an additional four options totally eight. They 357 00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 1: also swapped out dehydrated fruit with wet pack fruit. These 358 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 1: m R E s were designed to be stored for 359 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:03,880 Speaker 1: up to three years at up to eighty degrees fahrenheit 360 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:07,400 Speaker 1: that's around twenty s celsius without going bad, and yes 361 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:11,480 Speaker 1: could be parachuted in Now officials only meant for soldiers 362 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:14,680 Speaker 1: to eat Emory's for ten days during Operation desert storm, 363 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 1: but some soldiers ended up eating them for over sixty days. 364 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 1: As a result, three changes were quickly put into place. 365 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:24,359 Speaker 1: Shelf stable bread in an emory pouch, a high heat 366 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:27,639 Speaker 1: stable chocolate bar that could survive the desert heat. Of 367 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:31,720 Speaker 1: their attempts had unsuccessfully produced an undesirable product like very 368 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:36,000 Speaker 1: waxy um, and a flameless ration heater that the f 369 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 1: r H as a way to warm up andres f 370 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:41,880 Speaker 1: r H s are banned on commercial flights. By the way, Oh, 371 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:45,560 Speaker 1: I can see that hers, She's released their version of 372 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:48,840 Speaker 1: this chocolate, this kind of newly designed heat resistant chocolate 373 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:53,000 Speaker 1: desert bars during the GO four. It's very tricky because 374 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 1: you want to say desserts. That's not nope. In fact, 375 00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 1: in fact Google is saying that we have misspelled that. 376 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:04,120 Speaker 1: Right now, I know that flameless ration heater, by the way, 377 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:08,639 Speaker 1: works via chemical reaction. It's a pouch of magnesium and salt, 378 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 1: and you just pouring a little bit of water and 379 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:13,560 Speaker 1: and it creates a chemical reaction that heats the bag 380 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:16,919 Speaker 1: by a hundred degrees fahrenheit within minutes. Yeah, you just 381 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:19,880 Speaker 1: place whatever packet you're heating on top of the heat 382 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:24,800 Speaker 1: back m Apparently after the main part of the Gulf War, 383 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:27,879 Speaker 1: Colin Powell, then the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, 384 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:30,960 Speaker 1: took up the cause of better m r e s personally. 385 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:34,119 Speaker 1: Over the next few years, policies were adopted, like switching 386 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:37,080 Speaker 1: out too many as a year. Some entrees were changed out, 387 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 1: chocolate and coffee were improved. In early they put into 388 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:44,600 Speaker 1: place three more changes. I love this rule of threes 389 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:48,320 Speaker 1: that's happening here. First, commercial graphics on the packaging after 390 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:51,639 Speaker 1: studies showed that it meant higher rates of acceptance and consumption. 391 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:55,919 Speaker 1: The packaging was also made easier to open. Biodegradable spoons 392 00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:59,199 Speaker 1: were added and they were elongated to make them easier 393 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:02,199 Speaker 1: to use. And they also introduced these drink satchets that 394 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 1: could potentially remove the need for service members to carry 395 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:08,200 Speaker 1: cups um. The packet just contains the flavoring. You add 396 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:09,840 Speaker 1: water and you can drink right out of the pack 397 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 1: little caprice and sort of thing. Going to keep things 398 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 1: from getting monotonous, they increased menu options up to twenty 399 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:20,639 Speaker 1: four and now with four vegetarian options and kosher and 400 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:24,359 Speaker 1: halal options. Seventy new items have been approved for improvement 401 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:30,800 Speaker 1: and fourteen of the least accepted replaced and progress continues. 402 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:33,879 Speaker 1: In the early two thousands, research began in Earnest to 403 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:37,600 Speaker 1: improve the sterilization process that's used to make m R 404 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:41,919 Speaker 1: e's shelf stable. Up until that point, thermal processing was 405 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:45,919 Speaker 1: the standard. It's similar to canning and means that whatever 406 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:48,040 Speaker 1: you put in m R. E's has to be pretty 407 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:51,240 Speaker 1: hardy and like maybe a little bit goopy and acidic. 408 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:56,720 Speaker 1: There tends to be a high moisture level. The new process, though, 409 00:25:56,960 --> 00:26:01,680 Speaker 1: microwave assisted thermal sterilization, allows for lots of more delicate 410 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 1: foods to be preserved. UM dairy products, hole meats like 411 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:08,600 Speaker 1: chicken breasts or fish, and fresh like vegetables. I'm still 412 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:13,280 Speaker 1: not entirely sure what fresh like means, but uh yeah. 413 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 1: This also allows them to add in some nutrient boosters 414 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:18,560 Speaker 1: like um uh lemon pound cake fortified with a Mega 415 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:22,560 Speaker 1: three fatty acids that wouldn't survive the other process. However, 416 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:25,679 Speaker 1: it does require different packaging. The current foil packs that 417 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:31,119 Speaker 1: the food is sterilized in cannot be microwave because foils sparks. Yes, 418 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:35,959 Speaker 1: and perhaps the pinnacle of this Throughout the twenty teens, 419 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:39,639 Speaker 1: researchers have been working on an MRI E pizza that 420 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:41,639 Speaker 1: can keep up for for up to three years and 421 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:43,919 Speaker 1: apparently tastes like the cold pizza that so many of 422 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 1: us have enjoyed for breakfast. I'm not sure if they 423 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:49,520 Speaker 1: actually have come out with it yet there there. I mean, 424 00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:52,720 Speaker 1: they keep saying like another six months, OD, it's gonna 425 00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:55,280 Speaker 1: be inyen. It's now twenty nineteen. I haven't read anything 426 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:57,280 Speaker 1: about it actually being released. I think it was a 427 00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:01,040 Speaker 1: pepperoni and cheese pizza or something thereabouts. But it reminds 428 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:03,919 Speaker 1: me of the thirty Rock episode where Matt Damon was 429 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:07,399 Speaker 1: the pilot and he kept saying, we'll take off the 430 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:10,560 Speaker 1: thirty minute delay because people will accept the thirty minute delay, 431 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 1: But then it was like hours because they've been trying 432 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,800 Speaker 1: to get pizza. We talked about that in our Space 433 00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:20,960 Speaker 1: Food episode. Yeah, for ever since pizza has been part 434 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:24,320 Speaker 1: of the American culinary environment, we've been trying to get 435 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:28,359 Speaker 1: it into rations. UM. So if if anyone has an 436 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:30,399 Speaker 1: update on that, let me know. I couldn't find anything 437 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:35,720 Speaker 1: more recent than um than early and uh yeah, more 438 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:38,439 Speaker 1: more research. They're currently looking into how m R E 439 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 1: foods impact our gut microbiome, which in turn impacts a 440 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:46,600 Speaker 1: lot of factors in our health. There are civilian equivalents 441 00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:48,760 Speaker 1: to m R e's as well, for things like camping, 442 00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:52,600 Speaker 1: and they are considerably better quality because they don't have 443 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:56,040 Speaker 1: to they don't have the same restrictions. Yeah, it's illegal 444 00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:58,760 Speaker 1: to sell military grade m R e's to civilians in 445 00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:02,680 Speaker 1: retail shops. In the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina's destruction, there 446 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:06,159 Speaker 1: was a push to work on ready to emails for civilians. 447 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:09,280 Speaker 1: There are also m RIS design specifically for emergencies at 448 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:13,400 Speaker 1: medical facilities. During emergencies where FEMA is called in, those 449 00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:18,040 Speaker 1: civilian kit producers switch over to producing exclusively for disaster 450 00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:23,360 Speaker 1: relief until the need is met. And uh yeah, that's 451 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:26,840 Speaker 1: about what we have to say about m R e S. 452 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:29,720 Speaker 1: I do want to recommend some further listening for y'all. Um. 453 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:33,320 Speaker 1: The sport Full podcast did a great episode interviewing veterans 454 00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:37,879 Speaker 1: about eating while deployed back in December, and Gastropod actually 455 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:41,840 Speaker 1: went inside Natix Labs in March, So check out those 456 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 1: two episodes. They're really good. Yeah. Yeah, there's a lot 457 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:50,840 Speaker 1: a lot to say. Oh yeah, many many opinions are 458 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:55,920 Speaker 1: out there and and yeah, all of those great technologies 459 00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:58,960 Speaker 1: will we'll have to there. There were a few rabbit 460 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:02,600 Speaker 1: holes that I was like, stream line, streamline, Um, the 461 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:09,520 Speaker 1: coffee thing. Yeah, yeah, of coffee episode. It's coming eventually, 462 00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:17,320 Speaker 1: sad and it's coming. Yeah yeah. But for now we 463 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:20,120 Speaker 1: have arrived at the end of this episode. But we 464 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:21,959 Speaker 1: do have a little bit more for you. We do. 465 00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:23,880 Speaker 1: But first we've got one more quick break for a 466 00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:36,160 Speaker 1: word from our sponsor, and we're back. Thank you sponsor, Yes, 467 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:43,720 Speaker 1: thank you, and we're back with listen Marl. Yeah, it's 468 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:50,160 Speaker 1: true with you, Thank you, welcome, plays with you. I'm 469 00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:57,840 Speaker 1: always with you, podcast team forever. Samantha wrote, I'm ready 470 00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:01,120 Speaker 1: to tell you about what is undoubtedly the best complimentary 471 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:04,920 Speaker 1: bar snack I have had, and it's right in my hometown. 472 00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:12,520 Speaker 1: The complementary snack is John Roll. Please a bucket of bacon. Yeah. 473 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:15,920 Speaker 1: Every Thursday at a place called the Bog Pub is 474 00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:19,280 Speaker 1: Bacon Thursday. You sit down and then give you a 475 00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:23,240 Speaker 1: little metal bucket of delicious, crisp bacon. My mother has 476 00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:25,240 Speaker 1: always said how great the restaurant was, but when she 477 00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:28,640 Speaker 1: told me about this extra perk, I thought, what free 478 00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:32,240 Speaker 1: bacon every Thursday. Surely it can't be. So I went 479 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:34,800 Speaker 1: to the Bog, sat at the bar, and almost immediately 480 00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:37,480 Speaker 1: the bartender plopped a little bucket of bacon in front 481 00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 1: of me and asked what I was having. This may 482 00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:41,440 Speaker 1: or may not be part of the reason the Bog 483 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:43,640 Speaker 1: Pub is my favorite restaurant in town. If you ever 484 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:46,320 Speaker 1: come to Cape Cod, maybe visit for an episode on 485 00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:50,480 Speaker 1: Cape Cod Potato Chips. I highly suggest visiting Thursday or otherwise. 486 00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:54,000 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that sounds fabulous. There there is a place 487 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:56,000 Speaker 1: in town, leon So that at least used to have 488 00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:59,120 Speaker 1: on their menu on their like like small bites, not 489 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:02,479 Speaker 1: even appetizer is like preappetizer bites. So you could just 490 00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:05,600 Speaker 1: get a little bucket of bacon um and for an 491 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:07,880 Speaker 1: extra like buck you could get a sidecar of peanut 492 00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:11,479 Speaker 1: butter to dip it into. What I know, dude, Oh no, 493 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:17,680 Speaker 1: I'm not sure. I must go now when the weekend 494 00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:23,600 Speaker 1: plans canceled, clear my schedule. I'll just be there joining 495 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:25,640 Speaker 1: this every time I get hungry over the course of 496 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:34,640 Speaker 1: several hours. Yea, no, but but but bacon Thursday. Tchi wrote, 497 00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:37,000 Speaker 1: I just listened to the Bar Snacks episode and I 498 00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:40,040 Speaker 1: was reminded of happy hour bar snacks at Morton Steakhouse 499 00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:42,240 Speaker 1: and had to share. I don't think they did this 500 00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:44,920 Speaker 1: at all locations, but they actually used to have free 501 00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:47,920 Speaker 1: file at sliders at the bar to make sure I 502 00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:50,720 Speaker 1: wasn't remembering incorrectly. Since people I asked around me had 503 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:53,360 Speaker 1: no recollection of this, I tried searching for mentions of 504 00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:57,000 Speaker 1: it on the internet and found this from Seattle and 505 00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:59,200 Speaker 1: it was proof. It was proof of it was in 506 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:02,040 Speaker 1: a happy hour guy um. Definitely one of the best 507 00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:05,480 Speaker 1: bar snacks I've had for the value goodness. I bet 508 00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:10,920 Speaker 1: I know that sounds amazing too. I know I'm not 509 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:14,480 Speaker 1: even hungry, and I'm hungry. Oh gosh. A lot of 510 00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:18,400 Speaker 1: you have written in with the bar snacks that I 511 00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:22,720 Speaker 1: have found very unique and hunger inspiring, and probably be 512 00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:26,160 Speaker 1: hearing more from those listeners in this listener mail section 513 00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:30,800 Speaker 1: about those things in the future all there, It's all convoluted, 514 00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:33,560 Speaker 1: but it was in there. It was it was a sentence. 515 00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:38,720 Speaker 1: Eventually I had dreams and hope. He just kept believing 516 00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:44,360 Speaker 1: in it. I did, and it came to fruition. Did um. 517 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:48,480 Speaker 1: We do have some announcements as well. Absolutely, as of 518 00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:52,160 Speaker 1: the day that this episode comes out. We are maybe 519 00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:55,400 Speaker 1: mostly Annie, but but me as well too. Are headed 520 00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:59,400 Speaker 1: to the Atlanta Food and Wine Festival. Yes, yes, it 521 00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:03,200 Speaker 1: is a a fabulous celebration of everything that chefs around 522 00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:06,440 Speaker 1: Atlanta and the South in general and bartenders and other 523 00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:10,360 Speaker 1: food related humans are doing. Um. There's demonstrations, they're the 524 00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:15,120 Speaker 1: food tasting tensor. Overwhelming and wonderful. Yes, uh my hunt 525 00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:17,240 Speaker 1: for as many coozies as I can. Last year I 526 00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:18,920 Speaker 1: got sixty seven. I don't think I can tap it. 527 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:24,840 Speaker 1: I um look forward to hearing all kinds of beverage 528 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:28,560 Speaker 1: vendors um drink responsibly. I did not one of the 529 00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:32,160 Speaker 1: days last year. Well, it is a it's a long 530 00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:35,120 Speaker 1: you're in it for the long haul. You do you are, yes, um, 531 00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:39,160 Speaker 1: And it takes place all weekend long starting on There 532 00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:41,680 Speaker 1: is an event um the Thursday night before that is 533 00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:46,240 Speaker 1: also very wonderful. So if you're around, if you wanna, 534 00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:48,840 Speaker 1: you know, meet up, check it out. It's there and 535 00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:52,040 Speaker 1: it's fun and we recommend it. Yeah there, yeah, absolutely, yeah, 536 00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:53,680 Speaker 1: keeping keep an eye out for us if you see 537 00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:57,840 Speaker 1: someone with like fifty plus couzies. I don't want any judgment. 538 00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:05,400 Speaker 1: I only want help. Help finding the couzies not professional 539 00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:11,880 Speaker 1: for my cozy problem. Um, let's see what else is 540 00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:15,319 Speaker 1: going on. We're going to Hawaii, Yeah, right after that, 541 00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:18,560 Speaker 1: like immediately, like that Sunday. Um, We're we're going to 542 00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:20,839 Speaker 1: be there for for a couple of weeks where we're 543 00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:23,680 Speaker 1: bringing super producers Andrew and Dylan with us. We're going 544 00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:26,560 Speaker 1: to interview a whole bunch of cool people about cool stuff. 545 00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:28,840 Speaker 1: If you have any specific recommendations, we would love to 546 00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:33,239 Speaker 1: hear them. And that means since we will be gone 547 00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:37,759 Speaker 1: for two weeks, you will be hearing, um some classics. 548 00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:41,680 Speaker 1: We might do some classic episodes yeah, or show off 549 00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:43,400 Speaker 1: some of the some of the interviews that we got 550 00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:46,200 Speaker 1: to do on our previous trips that we never got 551 00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:51,399 Speaker 1: to share with you. Yeah, So hopefully you won't hate those. Oh, 552 00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:54,400 Speaker 1: they'll love them. They'll be like, get these people a 553 00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:59,040 Speaker 1: podcasts like we agree, we also would like a podcast 554 00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:05,279 Speaker 1: and away um in the meantime, Thanks to both of 555 00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:08,040 Speaker 1: these listeners for our writing to us. You two can 556 00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:10,359 Speaker 1: write to us. 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