WEBVTT - Ep. 74: Ryan Fox wins the Open Championship! 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:02.680 Quiet Please with Mel Reed and Kira Dixon is an 0:00:02.720 --> 0:00:06.320 iHeart women's sports production in partnership with Deep Blue Sports 0:00:06.320 --> 0:00:09.319 and Entertainment. You can find us on the iHeartRadio app, 0:00:09.440 --> 0:00:13.600 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. 0:00:24.360 --> 0:00:26.400 Okay, welcome back to Quiet Please. 0:00:26.640 --> 0:00:32.600 Kira and Mel here and Ryan Fox is our Open champion. 0:00:32.760 --> 0:00:39.760 Mel It was that a fairly spicy, interesting, compelling, lovely 0:00:39.840 --> 0:00:40.800 Open championship. 0:00:41.640 --> 0:00:45.280 It really was. It was beautiful weather. We are having 0:00:45.320 --> 0:00:47.400 a fantastic summer in the UK right now on a 0:00:47.400 --> 0:00:49.160 bit of a heat wave, so it was baked out. 0:00:49.240 --> 0:00:53.479 It was dry, not the usual kind of linxy golf 0:00:53.520 --> 0:00:55.080 that we used to We're you still have a bit 0:00:55.080 --> 0:00:56.959 of bad weather, aren't we a bit of wind bit rain? 0:00:57.000 --> 0:00:58.480 We didn't really get any of that. So it played 0:00:58.560 --> 0:01:02.360 very differently, played very firm, but it was a very 0:01:02.360 --> 0:01:06.760 compelling Open. But listen. Ryan Fox played the obviously the 0:01:06.800 --> 0:01:09.040 Saturday of his life with a sixty two and then 0:01:10.680 --> 0:01:15.119 just unbelievabletuff coming down the stretch on Sunday. But he's 0:01:15.240 --> 0:01:17.479 quoted saying some of the best golf he's ever played. 0:01:17.520 --> 0:01:19.160 Just didn't miss a goal shot the last five or 0:01:19.160 --> 0:01:22.160 six holes. And that birdie on the last. I'm a 0:01:22.200 --> 0:01:24.200 big fan of Ryan Fox. I always have been. I 0:01:24.200 --> 0:01:27.360 think he's a top lad. He's thirty nine, so he's 0:01:27.400 --> 0:01:31.080 no spring chicken. I was just so happy for him. 0:01:31.160 --> 0:01:34.200 I was absolutely do you know what as well, Kira, 0:01:34.240 --> 0:01:35.400 I don't know if you feel this as well? When 0:01:35.440 --> 0:01:37.400 he weren't, It's almost like he couldn't believe it himself. 0:01:37.400 --> 0:01:39.200 He was like, what the hell have I just done? 0:01:40.360 --> 0:01:42.160 He just kept on putting his head in his hands. 0:01:42.360 --> 0:01:44.920 I know he was like, I have to call my 0:01:45.319 --> 0:01:47.680 wife and kids, I have to call my dad. And 0:01:47.720 --> 0:01:50.240 I just loved how not only did he play fast, 0:01:50.560 --> 0:01:54.680 but he like did his celebration and then just off. 0:01:54.520 --> 0:01:57.440 The grim business. 0:01:58.080 --> 0:02:00.960 Yeah, because usually people will like stick there and take 0:02:01.040 --> 0:02:03.640 it in and hug people, like he gave his Caddy 0:02:03.680 --> 0:02:06.960 a two second hug. Yeah, and then power walked into 0:02:07.000 --> 0:02:10.160 scoring where he was forced to sit and like sign 0:02:10.200 --> 0:02:10.880 his scorecard. 0:02:10.880 --> 0:02:12.440 But he just had his head in his hands. 0:02:12.560 --> 0:02:15.959 And you know the juxtaposition of him next to Sam Burns, 0:02:15.960 --> 0:02:18.440 who had another close call at a major championship, and 0:02:18.480 --> 0:02:22.600 we'll get into that, but I mean, I love Ryan Fox. 0:02:22.639 --> 0:02:25.560 He's one of my favorite people to talk to on 0:02:25.600 --> 0:02:28.040 a range. It's one of my favorite people for a 0:02:28.080 --> 0:02:31.040 post round interview because he just actually says things and 0:02:31.080 --> 0:02:34.480 he's got the benefit of a little bit of age. 0:02:34.520 --> 0:02:35.919 He has a great perspective. 0:02:36.600 --> 0:02:39.360 He comes from a sporting family, like he gets it, 0:02:39.440 --> 0:02:42.880 he gets his role as an entertainer in sport, and 0:02:42.960 --> 0:02:47.320 he's willing to let the viewer in and his honest. 0:02:47.840 --> 0:02:49.920 I just yeah, that's we don't have enough of that. 0:02:50.080 --> 0:02:51.640 So I'm really really. 0:02:51.440 --> 0:02:53.000 Happy for him. And you know, this is a guy 0:02:53.040 --> 0:02:55.480 that's been a grinder for a really long time. So 0:02:55.600 --> 0:02:58.480 to have somebody like that walk away with it very 0:02:58.480 --> 0:02:59.040 worthy winner. 0:02:59.360 --> 0:03:01.160 I had of a set, and he's gone through every 0:03:01.200 --> 0:03:04.280 single stage, like you know, he's done you know, the 0:03:04.360 --> 0:03:06.920 Challenge Toy, your Deep Wheel Tour, then he got his card, 0:03:07.080 --> 0:03:09.560 then he weren't a couple of times last year, and 0:03:09.600 --> 0:03:12.320 then yeah, I mean it's just the ultimate kind of 0:03:12.360 --> 0:03:14.400 like he's thought about many, many times about giving out 0:03:14.400 --> 0:03:16.880 the game of golf. I mean, who hasn't, who's had 0:03:16.880 --> 0:03:19.840 such a kind of long career like he hasn't. Yeah, 0:03:20.120 --> 0:03:22.600 just unbelievable stuff. And I was just I was just 0:03:22.600 --> 0:03:24.040 made up for him. I don't know I've always liked 0:03:24.080 --> 0:03:26.840 Ryan Folk. So I remember playing when we played the 0:03:26.919 --> 0:03:30.079 VIC Open. Gosh, this is back in like twenty sixteen seventeen, 0:03:30.280 --> 0:03:32.320 and obviously the men played at the same time, and 0:03:32.800 --> 0:03:34.359 there was this green that was like three hundred and 0:03:34.360 --> 0:03:36.200 eighty yards and he just hit his T shirt. I'm 0:03:36.200 --> 0:03:38.160 on the green obviously pitches him and he comes up 0:03:38.160 --> 0:03:40.320 and goes, oh, I'm so sorry. I was like, no, 0:03:40.440 --> 0:03:43.120 that was awesome. I was like that was that was 0:03:43.160 --> 0:03:45.520 an amazing Like I didn't think you could drive it either. 0:03:45.600 --> 0:03:47.720 He's like, mean, neither, So I was sorry. I was like, no, 0:03:47.760 --> 0:03:51.800 don't say sorry, Like that was awesome. Yes, mate, I 0:03:51.840 --> 0:03:53.400 was like, no, that was awesome. I said, I really 0:03:53.440 --> 0:03:56.760 enjoyed watching that. So yeah, no, next time, yeah, do 0:03:56.800 --> 0:03:58.520 it again. You can hit it on the next hold on. 0:03:59.200 --> 0:04:03.040 So I just a proper athlete, Oh yeah, oh. 0:04:03.080 --> 0:04:05.680 Yes, I feel like his swing is super conventional. Like 0:04:05.680 --> 0:04:08.480 his dad is an absolute legend of All Blacks. Yes, 0:04:08.560 --> 0:04:09.640 obviously famous rugby. 0:04:09.640 --> 0:04:11.520 So you don't know what that is that he was 0:04:11.520 --> 0:04:14.800 a rugby star from in New Zealand for the All Blacks. 0:04:15.120 --> 0:04:20.200 And I didn't know this, but Ryan his dream growing 0:04:20.279 --> 0:04:23.680 up was to follow in his dad's footsteps, but a 0:04:23.720 --> 0:04:28.080 bunch of kids would target him at team practices or 0:04:28.080 --> 0:04:32.039 in matches, and he sustained so many concussions at a 0:04:32.040 --> 0:04:34.320 young age that he had to quit rugby and didn't 0:04:34.360 --> 0:04:38.800 take up playing golf seriously until he was seventeen years old. 0:04:39.080 --> 0:04:43.120 That's which isn't wild. Yeah, just shows how athletic he is. 0:04:43.440 --> 0:04:43.640 I know. 0:04:43.839 --> 0:04:47.080 I mean a rugby player like his is a ginormous 0:04:47.600 --> 0:04:51.000 absolutely ginormous. But yeah, and there was a video of 0:04:51.040 --> 0:04:53.400 him deadlifting like something obviously when he won, and I 0:04:53.440 --> 0:04:55.760 was like, holy cow, Yeah, no, he's a proper athlete 0:04:56.960 --> 0:04:57.760 and he's fast. 0:04:58.360 --> 0:05:02.080 Love that, yes, tell us more So. 0:05:02.480 --> 0:05:04.280 I didn't hear about this, but I don't know who, 0:05:04.320 --> 0:05:06.719 so I think it was Colin Montgomery. So this is 0:05:06.760 --> 0:05:09.160 how ridiculous golf has got, right, And it's the same 0:05:09.200 --> 0:05:11.920 on the LPGA. I don't think it's quite as horrific 0:05:11.960 --> 0:05:15.000 as the men's but it's it's getting there. It's kind 0:05:15.000 --> 0:05:16.400 of got a little bit better, I feel like. But 0:05:17.120 --> 0:05:22.160 Colin Montgomery was talking about when Lee Trevino won in 0:05:22.400 --> 0:05:24.600 whatever it was eighty one or in the late seventies 0:05:24.680 --> 0:05:27.960 or something. Three ball. They've played in four hours, just 0:05:28.040 --> 0:05:30.400 at four hours maybe under, and he says, now we're 0:05:30.400 --> 0:05:32.839 playing in five forty five and he says, what is 0:05:33.040 --> 0:05:35.120 what the hell has happened? Like Lee Trevino won that year, 0:05:35.160 --> 0:05:38.040 and he's like, what is going on? And he's one 0:05:38.080 --> 0:05:42.320 hundred percent right, Like it is so slow, but Ryan 0:05:42.360 --> 0:05:43.880 Fox is a breath of press are Like, I think 0:05:43.920 --> 0:05:46.400 he took twenty two seconds to his winning putt. I 0:05:46.400 --> 0:05:48.200 mean if that was any other player, it would have 0:05:48.240 --> 0:05:49.359 taken a minute at least. 0:05:50.200 --> 0:05:51.839 Yeah, you know what I mean two minutes and twenty 0:05:51.880 --> 0:05:52.520 two seconds. 0:05:52.560 --> 0:05:55.600 Yes, literally, yeah, it took Yeah, it took him twenty 0:05:55.640 --> 0:05:58.680 two seconds. He's a breath of fresh air. He's talking 0:05:58.720 --> 0:06:01.520 about it in his press conference. It's like saying, it's 0:06:01.560 --> 0:06:04.400 basically in between monitu clubs. I've always had that mentality. 0:06:04.440 --> 0:06:05.839 I know that a bunch of other players have that 0:06:05.880 --> 0:06:11.120 mentality as well as well, So it's refreshing. It was. Yeah, 0:06:11.240 --> 0:06:14.320 someone in the biggest moment of his life literally takes 0:06:14.520 --> 0:06:17.120 less than twenty five seconds to hit the biggest part 0:06:17.120 --> 0:06:17.600 of his career. 0:06:18.400 --> 0:06:20.800 I think it's brilliant because the longer you take, the 0:06:21.640 --> 0:06:25.960 more opportunity for bad thoughts and doubt. 0:06:26.120 --> 0:06:26.640 Creep in. 0:06:27.360 --> 0:06:29.720 How many times have you stood over a putt and 0:06:29.760 --> 0:06:31.240 you feel like you're confident, and then all of a 0:06:31.279 --> 0:06:33.040 sudden you start to think, oh my gosh, what if 0:06:33.040 --> 0:06:36.080 I miss it? Or the what are the implications of 0:06:36.120 --> 0:06:38.560 this if I miss it? Or you start thinking about 0:06:38.560 --> 0:06:41.640 the opportunity, You start thinking about the trophy, the money, 0:06:42.120 --> 0:06:45.200 the life changing everything that's Oh, that's over that put 0:06:45.680 --> 0:06:49.800 between that's all that stands between you winning the Cleric 0:06:49.920 --> 0:06:52.480 Jug and going to a playoff with Cameron Young, one 0:06:52.480 --> 0:06:54.760 of the best players in the world. Like, there's so 0:06:55.200 --> 0:06:58.840 much stuff you can consider, but. 0:06:58.800 --> 0:07:00.360 In twenty two seconds, you want to have time. 0:07:00.720 --> 0:07:03.200 So maybe that's a good lesson for anyone that wants 0:07:03.279 --> 0:07:05.800 to do anything competitively, just shut up and do. 0:07:05.800 --> 0:07:08.479 It exactly well said, No, I agree with you. I 0:07:08.480 --> 0:07:10.680 mean I was a fast player, so I kind of 0:07:10.800 --> 0:07:13.080 a little bit biased towards it. But I always felt 0:07:13.080 --> 0:07:15.520 like whenever I not that I ever did, but if 0:07:15.560 --> 0:07:17.880 I was over the ball too much, I'd think too much. 0:07:18.480 --> 0:07:20.920 But I think with so much information now, like thank 0:07:20.960 --> 0:07:23.400 god that got rid of the greens books. But in 0:07:23.440 --> 0:07:25.480 a way that's actually made it slower, I think again, 0:07:25.520 --> 0:07:28.040 because everyone does aim point and for people that don't 0:07:28.040 --> 0:07:30.080 know the greens book that we got rid of it 0:07:30.120 --> 0:07:33.040 a couple of years ago. Basically to every foot we 0:07:33.120 --> 0:07:37.880 had the exact gradient of degree of slope on it, 0:07:38.360 --> 0:07:40.720 and so it was a lot easier to read pers 0:07:40.800 --> 0:07:42.440 especially if you do a point where you're kind of 0:07:42.440 --> 0:07:44.080 feeling it with your feet anyway, so you could see 0:07:44.080 --> 0:07:47.200 exactly where you were on the green. But yeah, I mean, 0:07:47.240 --> 0:07:51.240 it's just take forever. It's just the conversation. 0:07:51.480 --> 0:07:55.480 Boring towards is so pure. I know, no wonder people 0:07:55.520 --> 0:07:56.480 think the golf is boring. 0:07:56.840 --> 0:07:57.840 I know, why do I want to. 0:07:57.840 --> 0:07:59.960 Watch you stand there and shuffle your feet back and forth? 0:08:00.480 --> 0:08:04.640 Every other but every other sports, Baseball has you know, 0:08:04.680 --> 0:08:06.560 the picture has a shop clot like tennis, and the 0:08:06.600 --> 0:08:09.280 serb has a shop loot like. Everything is getting quicker, 0:08:10.000 --> 0:08:14.480 apart from well, football actually is getting slower, but stupid 0:08:14.560 --> 0:08:18.560 hydration breaks. But other than that, everything else is getting quicker. 0:08:18.920 --> 0:08:19.760 Are you good? 0:08:20.240 --> 0:08:21.640 Sorry, somebody trying to call me. 0:08:21.800 --> 0:08:22.160 Let me. 0:08:24.680 --> 0:08:27.320 It's my birthday today, so people are calling me. 0:08:28.200 --> 0:08:33.560 She you know, oh Kira, I knew that it's in 0:08:33.600 --> 0:08:37.280 my phone. Is Kia birthday? Oh my god, I'm such 0:08:37.320 --> 0:08:42.360 a Dick. Ohkira, I'm so sorry. I've literally been a 0:08:42.400 --> 0:08:43.239 mess today. 0:08:44.640 --> 0:08:45.680 For your baby to be born. 0:08:45.720 --> 0:08:51.319 It's okay, Oh my god, I'm so sorry. Fuck. I 0:08:51.360 --> 0:08:52.400 feel like an asshole now. 0:08:52.800 --> 0:08:57.600 But I I didn't hear from you because I was like, oh, 0:08:58.840 --> 0:08:59.880 I can give itself. 0:09:03.320 --> 0:09:05.640 I do this, so I have it in my phone 0:09:05.920 --> 0:09:07.360 and I always look at my phone in the morning. 0:09:07.360 --> 0:09:09.760 This morning I didn't because we were rushing around because 0:09:09.880 --> 0:09:12.040 I got up late, so I was rushing around and 0:09:12.080 --> 0:09:15.320 then I've just been just doing stupid shit all day. 0:09:15.400 --> 0:09:18.080 So I'm so sorry. Happy birthday. I would have remembered 0:09:18.160 --> 0:09:19.079 by the the day, the end. 0:09:19.000 --> 0:09:21.120 Of the day, but not before the pod, which is 0:09:21.200 --> 0:09:21.800 great for me. 0:09:25.240 --> 0:09:27.439 God, I'm such an asshole. Happy birthday. 0:09:27.720 --> 0:09:30.559 I thinks I am at thirty five today, I'm I'm 0:09:30.600 --> 0:09:33.120 officially in my mid thirties. 0:09:34.559 --> 0:09:36.439 Yeah, it gets better. From him, I was thinking. 0:09:36.240 --> 0:09:39.720 About it today, like life has really never been better. 0:09:39.960 --> 0:09:41.199 This is life is great. 0:09:41.840 --> 0:09:44.760 Yeah, you know, I honestly think the older I'm getting 0:09:44.800 --> 0:09:47.800 my life is better. Yeah, the less Like I was 0:09:47.880 --> 0:09:49.680 quite scared of it in my mid twenties, but now 0:09:49.760 --> 0:09:51.719 I'm like, no, give me my forties and fifties. I 0:09:51.840 --> 0:09:52.320 mum down. 0:09:52.640 --> 0:10:01.880 Yeah, I've got better friends, better career stability. Birthday huh yeah, yeah, 0:10:01.920 --> 0:10:03.680 it's fine, or you may be spill my drink. 0:10:05.040 --> 0:10:05.319 Okay. 0:10:05.400 --> 0:10:08.440 I would have done it by WoT yeah right. 0:10:08.960 --> 0:10:11.000 You would have seen my Instagram post and then you 0:10:11.040 --> 0:10:11.839 would have texted me. 0:10:12.800 --> 0:10:15.480 I know. I would have got like, oh, I feel 0:10:15.480 --> 0:10:17.880 like an asshole. I would have remembered. Don't worry, don't worry, 0:10:17.920 --> 0:10:20.520 don't worry. I everyone calm down. I still have like 0:10:21.040 --> 0:10:22.840 nine hours. It's only three quarters. 0:10:22.640 --> 0:10:29.760 Away for your baby to I don't don't worry about me. 0:10:30.360 --> 0:10:32.040 Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you. 0:10:32.720 --> 0:10:38.080 And you are in Hawaii, set up well, celebrating, celebrating, celebrating. 0:10:38.960 --> 0:10:41.559 I'm in Hawaii for my baby moon slash birthday. 0:10:43.760 --> 0:10:45.120 That's amazing. How do you therefore? 0:10:46.280 --> 0:10:47.040 Six days. 0:10:48.440 --> 0:10:51.480 Nice? We did that. We went to Charleston. Very different. 0:10:52.559 --> 0:10:54.920 We went to Charleston. Okay, it was beautiful. 0:10:55.640 --> 0:11:00.240 Yeah, thank you anyway. I didn't mean to interrupt. Just 0:11:01.000 --> 0:11:03.760 people are people that remembered. 0:11:05.240 --> 0:11:22.840 Yeah anyway, Ryan Fox, Yes, the game is quickness, yeah, 0:11:22.880 --> 0:11:23.960 and it's getting quicker. 0:11:24.800 --> 0:11:26.880 So we're saying soccer is slowed down. 0:11:28.280 --> 0:11:31.400 Yes, yeah, football slowed down because of these stupid hydration 0:11:31.559 --> 0:11:35.400 breaks and then be definitely, So that's the only school 0:11:36.080 --> 0:11:36.840 hydration break? 0:11:37.040 --> 0:11:39.880 Is that just for the World Cup? Just for commercials? 0:11:40.880 --> 0:11:41.040 Is that? 0:11:41.200 --> 0:11:43.400 But is that like a normal thing for Premier League? 0:11:43.880 --> 0:11:47.600 No? So no, we're not that soft, not that sot. 0:11:48.440 --> 0:11:51.719 I want to I want to dive into World Cup 0:11:51.760 --> 0:11:57.560 stuff in a little bit, but vulable chat. Yeah, anything 0:11:57.559 --> 0:11:59.640 else you want to say about Ryan Fox the winner. 0:12:01.240 --> 0:12:05.360 No, I was just very happy for him. Just yeah, 0:12:05.640 --> 0:12:07.240 I was extremely happy. But I was pulling for him 0:12:07.240 --> 0:12:09.280 on the last day. I mean, obviously it's funny, so 0:12:09.400 --> 0:12:11.439 Carlie actually picked Sam Burns, So I kind of was 0:12:11.440 --> 0:12:13.520 pulling for him because he got so close. Obviously he's 0:12:13.559 --> 0:12:16.120 just had a baby, like ten days just had a 0:12:16.200 --> 0:12:19.720 baby ten days ago, and I was pulling for him 0:12:19.760 --> 0:12:21.079 because he came so close to yours. 0:12:21.120 --> 0:12:21.360 Open. 0:12:22.760 --> 0:12:26.160 Tommy Fleetwood had a fantastic week considering everything that was 0:12:26.200 --> 0:12:30.320 going on around him. Just the the shouts of Tommy 0:12:30.480 --> 0:12:33.160 was like one hundred thousand times a day, and just 0:12:33.240 --> 0:12:39.200 the way that he performed I think, very very impressive. Yeah, brilliant. Yeah, 0:12:39.440 --> 0:12:43.680 just a memorable week for him and Bryson. 0:12:44.280 --> 0:12:47.000 Okay, so this is this is like a whole thing. 0:12:48.160 --> 0:12:48.920 This is where I want to get. 0:12:49.320 --> 0:12:54.920 So on Friday, Bryson hits it into the crap on five. 0:12:56.440 --> 0:13:02.319 I don't know, yeah, sure, hold yeah, and he is 0:13:03.280 --> 0:13:05.280 I mean, obviously the cameras around him at all time. 0:13:05.360 --> 0:13:07.599 He walks over to his ball which is in the 0:13:07.880 --> 0:13:12.160 tall rescue and he is stepping all over the grass. 0:13:13.400 --> 0:13:18.319 And later it is brought to his attention that that 0:13:18.720 --> 0:13:21.560 is set that is actually improving his line, and he's 0:13:21.600 --> 0:13:23.960 assessed a two stroke penalty by the RNA. 0:13:25.800 --> 0:13:30.400 Drama ensues. Later we hear that he had asked to 0:13:30.520 --> 0:13:38.640 call President Trump to get involved here he has. 0:13:38.559 --> 0:13:40.720 To go back out to the spot with the rules 0:13:40.800 --> 0:13:44.240 officials and relitigate all this. He said that because of 0:13:44.320 --> 0:13:47.239 this injustice, he was potentially thinking of withdrawing. 0:13:47.360 --> 0:13:49.360 He wasn't going to play on Saturday, and then. 0:13:49.320 --> 0:13:51.680 Because of all that drama, the players didn't get their 0:13:51.760 --> 0:13:54.520 tea times until eleven o'clock. 0:13:54.240 --> 0:13:56.280 At night because they're all waiting on that. 0:13:57.720 --> 0:14:00.079 Rory had some interesting comments about the whole thing. But 0:14:00.280 --> 0:14:04.480 let's just go back to the this whole thing. What 0:14:04.960 --> 0:14:07.839 was your impression as a professional golfer of how he 0:14:08.000 --> 0:14:10.079 handled it initially when he arrived. 0:14:09.840 --> 0:14:10.440 At his golf bar. 0:14:11.960 --> 0:14:15.559 Yeah, so I actually watched it. Listen. I always give 0:14:15.600 --> 0:14:17.319 a player the benefit of the doubt, Like I think 0:14:17.360 --> 0:14:19.040 that that is what is the beauty of bad game 0:14:19.080 --> 0:14:23.840 is integrity. You know, you call things on yourself. It's 0:14:23.880 --> 0:14:27.520 a very honest game. It made me uncomfortable for sure. 0:14:28.240 --> 0:14:29.600 I think when I first saw him do it, I 0:14:29.720 --> 0:14:33.400 was like, oh, that is a little bit sketched to me. 0:14:33.680 --> 0:14:39.960 It didn't seem right to me. When yeah, when he 0:14:40.080 --> 0:14:44.760 stepped back and kind of trod down the rescue pretty aggressively, 0:14:45.240 --> 0:14:49.280 and then he did it again, I was well, first 0:14:49.280 --> 0:14:51.200 of all, I maybe uncomfortable, and second one, I'm like, 0:14:51.400 --> 0:14:52.960 surely I'm going to give him the birth of the 0:14:53.040 --> 0:14:54.880 doubt because there are so many cameras on him. But 0:14:55.960 --> 0:14:58.720 as a player, if I had been in that group, 0:14:58.760 --> 0:15:03.160 it would have definitely made me uncomfortable. I think that 0:15:03.320 --> 0:15:06.160 it was unnecessary. I think he knew what he was doing. 0:15:09.320 --> 0:15:10.840 You know, whether he was trying to go on that 0:15:10.960 --> 0:15:13.520 line of site, he was basically trying to say that 0:15:13.600 --> 0:15:15.160 that wasn't going to be in his backswing anyway, It 0:15:15.240 --> 0:15:19.000 doesn't really matter. It potentially could have been. So I 0:15:19.040 --> 0:15:23.840 didn't love it, and I think the whole charade that 0:15:23.920 --> 0:15:26.880 happened afterwards wasn't a great look either. And this is 0:15:26.960 --> 0:15:29.800 my thing with Bryson, right Like me and Carly went 0:15:29.800 --> 0:15:32.400 in an in depth conversation about this. Like Bryson makes 0:15:32.440 --> 0:15:36.840 it quite difficult to like at times. He's a bit 0:15:36.880 --> 0:15:39.680 of an odd duck at times, which I don't mind. 0:15:39.840 --> 0:15:42.040 I think he's very unique, and I actually quite like 0:15:42.120 --> 0:15:45.480 that about him. I think his reputation in the past 0:15:45.520 --> 0:15:48.240 hasn't been great, but then I feel like he's rebuilt 0:15:48.280 --> 0:15:51.680 a whole brand around himself. And I've said numerous times 0:15:51.760 --> 0:15:55.520 on this pod that you know my nephews, who are 0:15:55.560 --> 0:16:01.200 the next generation? That was for your birthday, that thumbs 0:16:01.280 --> 0:16:05.480 up the next generation and played off because of Bryson, 0:16:05.880 --> 0:16:08.680 Like they get very excited because of what Bryson's doing 0:16:08.920 --> 0:16:11.840 in the social media YouTube space. So I do feel 0:16:11.880 --> 0:16:14.320 like he has give himself a lot of credibility in that. 0:16:14.440 --> 0:16:18.360 Like he's fantastic with the crowd. Like I told you, 0:16:18.400 --> 0:16:20.000 I watched him at the US Open. He signed every 0:16:20.000 --> 0:16:22.920 single lettograph like twenty minutes of the PJ Champ. Sorry, 0:16:23.080 --> 0:16:27.040 no other player did that. That impressed me. But then 0:16:28.240 --> 0:16:32.680 just the theatrical bs that he does is just not 0:16:32.840 --> 0:16:36.520 necessarily for a professional athlete. I just think that there 0:16:37.120 --> 0:16:40.720 is a sense of respect that needs that he doesn't 0:16:40.800 --> 0:16:43.920 quite show for the sport and for other players, and 0:16:44.080 --> 0:16:46.960 it rubs me up the wrong way at times, and 0:16:47.080 --> 0:16:50.840 so again I'm just like, is this really Bryson or 0:16:50.960 --> 0:16:52.840 is he just putting it on? Like I actually don't 0:16:53.040 --> 0:16:55.480 know who he really is at times, and that's where 0:16:55.480 --> 0:16:56.360 I struggle with him. 0:16:56.680 --> 0:16:58.400 I don't think anyone knows who he really is. I 0:16:58.440 --> 0:17:00.360 don't think Bryson really knows who he is is. I 0:17:00.400 --> 0:17:03.840 think that he at his core wants to be loved 0:17:05.359 --> 0:17:10.360 and wants to be adored by the fans and drives 0:17:10.600 --> 0:17:16.360 off of the clicks, the attention, the comments. That's why, 0:17:16.720 --> 0:17:20.800 that's why he's put himself in the next echelon of 0:17:21.359 --> 0:17:24.439 attention of being a professional athlete. And you know, if 0:17:24.440 --> 0:17:29.000 there's nothing wrong with that, I personally am so grateful 0:17:29.040 --> 0:17:32.240 we have a Bryson Involf, because otherwise golf, you know, 0:17:32.320 --> 0:17:36.640 we've already lost on the PGA Tour, the weekend week 0:17:36.720 --> 0:17:40.399 out push and pull tension of a rory going up 0:17:40.400 --> 0:17:42.960 against a Patrick Reid or Bryson or Scotty. 0:17:43.080 --> 0:17:46.880 You know that that is gone. So when we get 0:17:46.880 --> 0:17:50.080 it at the major championships, it's like great for us, 0:17:50.160 --> 0:17:52.280 like we have something to talk about on the podcast, we. 0:17:53.000 --> 0:17:55.840 In the media that you know. It just it brings 0:17:55.920 --> 0:17:59.360 in fans, it brings in conversations. So like great, Bryson 0:17:59.680 --> 0:18:03.560 love it. However, as like a human being, I did, 0:18:03.680 --> 0:18:04.480 come on, what are we doing? 0:18:04.760 --> 0:18:13.359 Like grab just you calling the President of the United States? Rulling, 0:18:15.320 --> 0:18:18.320 have nothing better to do? And second of all, just 0:18:18.680 --> 0:18:19.240 deal with it. 0:18:20.840 --> 0:18:24.159 I know, just just just deal with it quietly, like 0:18:24.240 --> 0:18:25.800 you don't nothing not everything. 0:18:26.080 --> 0:18:27.960 Has to be the drama. 0:18:29.560 --> 0:18:31.480 And like did you see him on Saturday afternoon, like 0:18:31.520 --> 0:18:33.280 he's walking up eighteen it was this he took his 0:18:33.359 --> 0:18:35.320 hatf basically have to hit second shot as if he'd 0:18:35.359 --> 0:18:38.240 win the thing, Like just it's just too much, Like 0:18:38.840 --> 0:18:40.639 I don't know. I was just never that put. I'm 0:18:40.680 --> 0:18:43.320 never that person. So I stuggle seeing that At times, 0:18:43.400 --> 0:18:45.600 I'm like, what are we doing here? Like I struggle 0:18:45.600 --> 0:18:48.160 with it in any spirit. It's not just like in golf. 0:18:48.680 --> 0:18:49.879 It's a bit performative for me. 0:18:50.160 --> 0:18:51.000 And so I just. 0:18:52.480 --> 0:18:54.119 I do with everything you're saying. I really do, Like 0:18:54.200 --> 0:18:57.000 I'm latched onto him, you know, whether I like it 0:18:57.119 --> 0:18:58.920 or not, I'm latched onto the guy because I know 0:18:59.000 --> 0:19:01.040 something's going to happen and it's interesting for me, and 0:19:01.119 --> 0:19:02.920 it's it's somebody to talk about, like what is he 0:19:03.000 --> 0:19:05.400 going to do this time? He's a little bit unpredictable. 0:19:05.720 --> 0:19:08.159 He's really fun to watch and all if you take 0:19:08.200 --> 0:19:13.440 all the bs, he's really is and he's very very good, 0:19:13.600 --> 0:19:16.520 and he's very different and it's exactly what golf needs. 0:19:16.880 --> 0:19:19.560 But the theatrical stuff of it is just a little 0:19:19.600 --> 0:19:20.680 bit for me. 0:19:20.880 --> 0:19:23.520 Sometimes he just pushes it a little too far and 0:19:23.560 --> 0:19:27.240 you're like, all right now, it's like the illusion is gone, 0:19:27.400 --> 0:19:30.960 you know, the man behind the curtain or whatever, and 0:19:31.080 --> 0:19:32.720 you're and then it comes down and you're like, oh, 0:19:33.160 --> 0:19:34.640 actually you're just trying a little too hard. 0:19:34.720 --> 0:19:38.720 Yeah, actually you just want to be like you want 0:19:38.800 --> 0:19:42.359 that's a dungeon. But yeah, I mean. 0:19:42.359 --> 0:19:45.639 In his like how energy joining must that be to 0:19:45.720 --> 0:19:48.520 have that kind of attention all the time, Like I'm. 0:19:50.480 --> 0:19:53.440 Extra, he's like driven by I think that this is 0:19:53.560 --> 0:19:57.080 his He does not have that we know of, like 0:19:57.480 --> 0:20:02.200 a serious personal like like he lives for this, this 0:20:02.440 --> 0:20:02.800 is it. 0:20:03.400 --> 0:20:03.760 Yeah, So. 0:20:05.440 --> 0:20:08.359 I don't know, yeah, I don't know. I didn't like it. 0:20:09.160 --> 0:20:12.720 I thought that the two chop penine was justified in 0:20:12.840 --> 0:20:16.680 my opinion, I didn't like the theatric theatrics afterwards. So 0:20:16.960 --> 0:20:19.120 that was just my opinion on it. So but again, 0:20:19.359 --> 0:20:21.480 next time he plays, I'll be keeping an eye because. 0:20:22.160 --> 0:20:23.480 Yeah, we're not in his mind. 0:20:23.520 --> 0:20:26.000 We don't know if he consciously went up there and 0:20:26.119 --> 0:20:27.879 was like, I'm going to stomp around this, I can 0:20:27.920 --> 0:20:29.919 improve my lie, or you know, he could have been 0:20:29.920 --> 0:20:32.240 in the heat of the moment and just was walking 0:20:32.280 --> 0:20:34.359 around and has the adrenaline going and. 0:20:35.880 --> 0:20:38.600 You know happens it was he could have you do 0:20:38.720 --> 0:20:41.360 have the right, you do have the right to stand 0:20:41.400 --> 0:20:43.200