WEBVTT - Reviewing the Official Bucs 2025 NFL Draft Class | Road To The Draft 0:00:00.280 --> 0:00:02.840 Welcome into our final road to the Draft company from 0:00:02.840 --> 0:00:05.360 Bucks Studio, presented by ticket master Casey Phillips here with 0:00:05.400 --> 0:00:07.000 senior writer and editor Scott Smith. 0:00:07.160 --> 0:00:07.720 I don't know, maybe we. 0:00:07.680 --> 0:00:09.959 Should call this the road back from the drafts the 0:00:10.039 --> 0:00:12.440 road passed it. We're just continuing on here that we did. 0:00:12.520 --> 0:00:14.080 You know, every week leading up to the draft, we 0:00:14.120 --> 0:00:15.840 talked about what we thought was going to happen, and 0:00:15.880 --> 0:00:18.520 now we finally know we have the newest additions to 0:00:18.600 --> 0:00:19.520 the crew to talk about. 0:00:19.600 --> 0:00:22.040 So today we thought we'd just go through the different. 0:00:21.760 --> 0:00:24.119 Draft picks, look at kind of big picture what the 0:00:24.160 --> 0:00:26.279 Bucks did, look at each of them individually where we 0:00:26.280 --> 0:00:28.560 feel like they could contribute now that we know who 0:00:28.640 --> 0:00:31.080 these guys are. So let's start with the big picture side. 0:00:31.200 --> 0:00:33.320 As you just look at what the Bucks accomplished, what 0:00:33.360 --> 0:00:35.320 they did, and especially maybe compared to what we thought 0:00:35.320 --> 0:00:36.720 they were going to do, what stands out? 0:00:36.960 --> 0:00:39.480 I guess I'll ask you, how do you feel about 0:00:39.520 --> 0:00:41.320 reading like draft grades right after a draft? Is it 0:00:41.360 --> 0:00:43.240 kind of similar to how you feel about draft mock 0:00:43.320 --> 0:00:44.360 drafts before the Yeah? 0:00:44.400 --> 0:00:47.400 I mean it's yeah, it's pretty much as useless, isn't 0:00:47.479 --> 0:00:49.000 what the same year rule isn't that. 0:00:48.920 --> 0:00:51.839 Typically I still do it, of course, and so what 0:00:51.960 --> 0:00:54.720 I immediately noticed this year is that the draft grades 0:00:54.760 --> 0:00:57.080 for the Buccaneers tend to vary between like a B 0:00:57.200 --> 0:00:59.440 and an A plus or remember Pete Prisco's Gonna be 0:00:59.440 --> 0:01:01.920 a Sports Game of an A plus and really gave 0:01:02.000 --> 0:01:04.320 Jason light his flowers for once again drafting a lot 0:01:04.360 --> 0:01:05.800 of good players. And you're seeing a lot of that 0:01:05.920 --> 0:01:07.679 now that people are starting to realize what a great 0:01:07.720 --> 0:01:09.520 job Jason's been doing for year of the year now, 0:01:10.440 --> 0:01:12.680 and it all comes down to the variance there between 0:01:12.760 --> 0:01:14.679 the B and the A plus. Every single time comes 0:01:14.720 --> 0:01:17.440 down to how do you feel about the Buccaneers using 0:01:17.480 --> 0:01:19.240 their first round pick on wide receiver? 0:01:19.360 --> 0:01:21.039 Yeah, on a non defensive guy. Yeah. 0:01:21.120 --> 0:01:23.360 And I'm not gonna I'm not gonna be a revisionist 0:01:23.440 --> 0:01:25.120 historian here. I was one of those people that have 0:01:25.200 --> 0:01:27.840 skeptical right up to the end, even though Todd Bowles 0:01:27.880 --> 0:01:30.319 and Jason Lytt were dropping all these breadcrumbs about, hey, 0:01:30.440 --> 0:01:33.600 we might actually do this, and then afterwards you see 0:01:33.680 --> 0:01:36.000 the wisdom of it, and a lot of it just 0:01:36.080 --> 0:01:37.840 has to do with value, The value of getting a 0:01:37.920 --> 0:01:40.600 player like that in a past driven league, even if 0:01:40.600 --> 0:01:43.640 you already have a good passing offense. That value was 0:01:43.720 --> 0:01:46.360 there in the first round. And yes, the Buccaneers needed 0:01:46.360 --> 0:01:49.040 to hit defense. And who am I, I'm the cornerback guy, right. 0:01:49.400 --> 0:01:50.680 You tell me at the end of this draft that 0:01:50.800 --> 0:01:53.040 we got Benjamin Morrison and Jacob Parrish in the second 0:01:53.120 --> 0:01:55.920 round the corner I'm ecstatic. Yep, So there was to me, 0:01:56.040 --> 0:01:58.960 there's no flaw in this plan of using the first 0:01:59.000 --> 0:02:02.000 pick on a player that they absolutely love and love it. 0:02:02.120 --> 0:02:03.840 Yeah, and we hear this all time, right, the I 0:02:03.960 --> 0:02:06.160 am that Man's strategy exactly. And we have seen in 0:02:06.240 --> 0:02:08.160 recent years how well this has worked out when you 0:02:08.280 --> 0:02:10.320 look at the fact of what a huge percentage of 0:02:10.400 --> 0:02:13.880 our starters, of our stars are homegrown talent, and it 0:02:14.000 --> 0:02:16.440 is because they have stuck to this idea. And I 0:02:16.560 --> 0:02:19.760 think after just spending one day with a Mecca, every 0:02:19.800 --> 0:02:21.799 single person here is like he is that man. 0:02:22.040 --> 0:02:22.720 That That's the thing. 0:02:22.840 --> 0:02:26.320 You can see why he plays like a Chris Godwin, 0:02:26.440 --> 0:02:28.720 carries himself like a Chris Godwin. We have seen that 0:02:28.840 --> 0:02:31.720 if anyone tells a Bucks fan, hey, there's a chance 0:02:31.760 --> 0:02:33.160 you could get another Chris Godwin. 0:02:33.800 --> 0:02:36.160 I mean, how how would you not be excited about that. 0:02:36.200 --> 0:02:38.079 And the Bucks got Chris Godwin the third round, but 0:02:38.120 --> 0:02:39.840 if they did that draft over again, he would be 0:02:39.840 --> 0:02:40.320 a first. 0:02:40.280 --> 0:02:41.600 You would one hundred percent thrilled. 0:02:41.800 --> 0:02:43.560 Yeah, if you can get another guy like that, And 0:02:43.960 --> 0:02:45.760 you know, they you talk about things like maybe the 0:02:45.840 --> 0:02:48.480 forty yard dash, and you can see incrementally, Okay, that 0:02:48.600 --> 0:02:50.359 four point four is better than that four point five, 0:02:50.400 --> 0:02:52.480 which is in four point three is better when they 0:02:52.560 --> 0:02:55.959 talk about judging these guys character and that whole I 0:02:56.000 --> 0:02:58.440 am that man thing. There's not really a number you 0:02:58.480 --> 0:03:01.160 can put to that. Yet there's still say and Meca 0:03:01.200 --> 0:03:04.040 Book is off the charts when it comes to how 0:03:04.160 --> 0:03:06.600 they value him in that regard. And as you said, 0:03:06.639 --> 0:03:08.520 I think that's the reason why so many of these 0:03:08.600 --> 0:03:10.919 draft classes are working out over and over again, and 0:03:11.080 --> 0:03:15.120 why this team is so incredibly home grown, particularly on offense. 0:03:15.240 --> 0:03:18.639 So you know, after it's all said and done, I 0:03:18.720 --> 0:03:20.600 think we love the fact that we have a Mecca 0:03:20.680 --> 0:03:23.040 Book here. And you know, two months ago, would we 0:03:23.080 --> 0:03:25.560 have expected a first round wide receiver. No, But I 0:03:26.120 --> 0:03:28.280 when you put it all together and what the Buccaneers 0:03:28.320 --> 0:03:30.320 were able to do on defense after that, and we'll 0:03:30.320 --> 0:03:32.320 get to each guy. But not only did they hit 0:03:32.400 --> 0:03:34.840 cornerback position in a way that I love, But at 0:03:34.880 --> 0:03:37.120 the end of that night, you had Mike Beale, director 0:03:37.200 --> 0:03:40.640 of a Vice President Player Personnel Stanther saying, yeah, I 0:03:40.680 --> 0:03:42.680 think we can still address the pass rush, and then 0:03:42.720 --> 0:03:45.000 to do what they did with David Walker and Elijah 0:03:45.080 --> 0:03:48.520 Roberts on Day three, I think they did hit that. 0:03:48.800 --> 0:03:50.440 And I didn't know. I don't know if I would 0:03:50.440 --> 0:03:52.560 have thought it was possible going into the draft to 0:03:53.360 --> 0:03:55.760 take a receiver in the first round satisfy what I 0:03:55.840 --> 0:03:59.320 was hoping we get in cornerback and help the front rotation. Yeah, 0:03:59.360 --> 0:04:00.600 it looks like they I agree. 0:04:00.640 --> 0:04:02.480 I think that would have been the concern people had 0:04:02.600 --> 0:04:04.600 was if you take a non defensive guy in the 0:04:04.680 --> 0:04:08.560 first round, how well can you address Yes, And now 0:04:08.640 --> 0:04:10.720 I think, getting now the hindsight of seeing what they 0:04:10.760 --> 0:04:12.760 did the rest of the days, I don't think you 0:04:12.840 --> 0:04:14.720 feel that way at all, which is great. And of course, 0:04:14.720 --> 0:04:16.560 as much as we talk about Amcca for his character, 0:04:16.600 --> 0:04:19.080 which is phenomenal, it's not like he's a shalob on 0:04:19.120 --> 0:04:20.039 the field like this guy. 0:04:20.720 --> 0:04:23.600 I mean, for an Ohio state wide. 0:04:23.400 --> 0:04:27.240 Receiver room that is consistently stacked, this is the guy 0:04:27.279 --> 0:04:29.599 who's the all time leader in receptions for that school. 0:04:30.040 --> 0:04:31.080 That is wild to me. 0:04:31.279 --> 0:04:33.479 And it's not because he stayed around like four years 0:04:33.520 --> 0:04:33.800 or something. 0:04:33.960 --> 0:04:36.320 Yes, yeah, it's incredible, and yeah I love he could 0:04:36.320 --> 0:04:38.279 have come out last year even and just decided to stay. 0:04:38.279 --> 0:04:41.520 So I am incredibly excited about him. So let's get 0:04:41.560 --> 0:04:43.960 to the round two and three, which I imagine they 0:04:44.200 --> 0:04:46.400 put you in charge of. That's how I felt when 0:04:46.480 --> 0:04:48.640 we took two cornerbacks in a row. I was like, 0:04:48.720 --> 0:04:51.400 did they just let Scott make the phone calls up there? 0:04:51.440 --> 0:04:53.720 And that's what happened. So uh, Rich, Yeah, let's start 0:04:53.760 --> 0:04:57.599 round two. Benjamin Morrison, Notre Dame. Tell me a little 0:04:57.600 --> 0:04:58.560 bit about what stands out to you. 0:04:58.520 --> 0:04:59.000 About this guy. 0:04:59.120 --> 0:05:00.840 One thing I like about if you look back on 0:05:00.920 --> 0:05:02.799 a Road to Draft, we are Road to the Draft series. 0:05:02.839 --> 0:05:04.400 We did cover a lot of these guys. I mean, 0:05:04.480 --> 0:05:06.360 we did talk about a mecha Buka and like I 0:05:06.400 --> 0:05:08.680 think our second episode showed some nice highlights of him 0:05:08.720 --> 0:05:11.280 catching the ball down the middle. The very first guy 0:05:11.360 --> 0:05:13.520 that I gave the Buccaneers of my first mock draft 0:05:13.800 --> 0:05:16.680 was Benjamin Morris. And now, as it turns out, because 0:05:16.720 --> 0:05:19.640 of concerns about the fact that he missed all but 0:05:19.720 --> 0:05:21.480 six games last year with the hip injury, although he 0:05:21.520 --> 0:05:24.640 really didn't have a history of injuries before that. That 0:05:24.920 --> 0:05:27.839 probably meant he didn't get taken in the first round, 0:05:28.120 --> 0:05:29.960 But the Buccaneers felt like they got a first round 0:05:30.080 --> 0:05:33.600 talent in Benjamin Morris, and so that worked out very 0:05:33.640 --> 0:05:37.360 well for the Buccaneers day. I think he probably was 0:05:37.480 --> 0:05:39.680 maybe one of the last guys in the in the 0:05:39.800 --> 0:05:42.480 top tier of corners that they wanted to get. And 0:05:42.600 --> 0:05:45.680 so this is a guy who just before he got 0:05:45.760 --> 0:05:48.200 hurt was playing as well as any cornerback in the nation. 0:05:48.320 --> 0:05:49.640 And he you know, I think he had what he 0:05:49.680 --> 0:05:53.000 of nine interceptions from twenty twenty two to twenty twenty three. 0:05:53.360 --> 0:05:57.520 The you know, Todd Bowles once more, ballhawks, ballhawks and 0:05:57.600 --> 0:05:59.440 his secondary and then that's what this guy is. And 0:05:59.480 --> 0:06:03.480 he can play, he can make interceptions. And Mike Bialde 0:06:03.480 --> 0:06:06.480 told me, he's like, it's not just playing zone and 0:06:06.560 --> 0:06:08.640 having your eyes on the quarterback. That the whole guy 0:06:09.120 --> 0:06:11.760 he covers so well that he makes interceptions and passes 0:06:11.880 --> 0:06:14.560 defense while in man demand coverage where his back is 0:06:14.560 --> 0:06:16.360 to the ball most of the time. So the guy 0:06:16.440 --> 0:06:18.640 has a feel for the football, and that's, you know, 0:06:18.760 --> 0:06:19.800 obviously something we want. 0:06:20.120 --> 0:06:21.560 Yeah, and I think we've seen that. 0:06:21.839 --> 0:06:23.560 I mean, we always talk about the fact that Todd 0:06:23.680 --> 0:06:26.600 Bowles values versatility, especially because when we've looked at the 0:06:26.640 --> 0:06:28.960 ways that we've been able to deal with some injuries, 0:06:29.040 --> 0:06:31.760 especially in the secondary, is by having these Swiss army knives, 0:06:31.800 --> 0:06:34.280 like a Christianisy and like a Tyke Smith. So you 0:06:34.480 --> 0:06:37.040 want guys in your secondary in particular to be able 0:06:37.120 --> 0:06:39.440 to do multiple things, whether it's man in zone or 0:06:39.520 --> 0:06:41.880 it's even kind of playing multiple positions. And I know 0:06:41.960 --> 0:06:44.400 they feel like a guy like Benjamin Morrison can do that. 0:06:44.680 --> 0:06:46.240 And you know a lot of people think, yeah, the 0:06:46.279 --> 0:06:48.440 only reason he was even here is because of the 0:06:48.520 --> 0:06:50.440 medical stuff that he had go on with his hip. 0:06:50.800 --> 0:06:52.600 And I think it's interesting to look at the draft. 0:06:52.800 --> 0:06:54.760 It's always sort of a gamble and a trying to 0:06:54.839 --> 0:06:56.760 predict the future of what people are going to be 0:06:57.279 --> 0:06:58.440 and there is no sure thing. 0:06:58.560 --> 0:06:59.640 But if you feel like there is. 0:06:59.640 --> 0:07:03.080 Someone you feel good about where they're progressing health wise, 0:07:03.480 --> 0:07:05.599 and you know that if not for that injury, they 0:07:05.680 --> 0:07:08.880 might have been a first round pick, that's that is 0:07:08.960 --> 0:07:10.720 the way you get a steal. That's how you take 0:07:10.800 --> 0:07:13.200 those risks in a draft of saying we think we 0:07:13.280 --> 0:07:15.160 can try to predict that this guy is going to 0:07:15.200 --> 0:07:17.560 be healthy at a certain point and can then really 0:07:17.600 --> 0:07:19.600 contribute in a way that we get a steal at 0:07:19.640 --> 0:07:20.000 that pick. 0:07:20.160 --> 0:07:22.280 And what else does Todd Boles love in his cornerbacks? 0:07:22.920 --> 0:07:23.240 Speed? 0:07:23.440 --> 0:07:23.720 Speed? 0:07:23.800 --> 0:07:26.520 Yeah, he was asked about how important speed testing is, 0:07:26.640 --> 0:07:29.160 like at the combine and so when you're evaluating those prospects, 0:07:29.200 --> 0:07:32.080 and Todd Boles specifically said, well, it's important in some 0:07:32.160 --> 0:07:35.360 positions like cornerback. You need speed at cornerback. And so 0:07:35.440 --> 0:07:38.640 look at Jacob Parrish. You know, I think Maxwell Harrison 0:07:38.680 --> 0:07:40.400 of Kentucky is a guy that Bucks might have been 0:07:40.440 --> 0:07:43.200 interested in if they didn't get Abuka, And he was 0:07:43.280 --> 0:07:45.480 the fastest guy at any position at the combine. But 0:07:45.640 --> 0:07:48.320 Jacob Parrish wasn't far off. Yeah, four point three five 0:07:48.440 --> 0:07:51.160 forty yard dash. Very feisty player they call him because 0:07:51.160 --> 0:07:53.240 I guess he's about five to ten. So he's not 0:07:53.320 --> 0:07:55.520 the biggest, longest cornerback in the world. As you can 0:07:55.520 --> 0:07:58.280 see there, he's matching up against a bigger guy and 0:07:58.360 --> 0:08:01.040 doing a good job physically there. He has a ton 0:08:01.120 --> 0:08:04.040 of pass breakups the last couple of years. So he's productive, 0:08:04.360 --> 0:08:07.400 he's fast, and he probably again would have gone a 0:08:07.400 --> 0:08:09.040 little bit higher if he was six foot tall. 0:08:09.360 --> 0:08:11.680 Yeah, he was a one and two hundred meter state 0:08:11.760 --> 0:08:13.720 champ in Kansas. Not so shabby. 0:08:13.840 --> 0:08:15.840 And and I also like, yeah, I also played basketball, 0:08:15.840 --> 0:08:17.960 and I think Mike bial City also wrestled. 0:08:18.200 --> 0:08:20.760 Like love this his brother did too. See you can 0:08:20.840 --> 0:08:23.440 picture the two brothers. Yeah, absolutely was a wrestler. 0:08:23.760 --> 0:08:27.000 Yeah, five interceptions, ninety four tackles, and twenty three passes 0:08:27.040 --> 0:08:28.920 defensed in his last two seasons. 0:08:29.000 --> 0:08:32.120 And so again, yeah, both corners seem to have that versatility. 0:08:31.960 --> 0:08:33.959 Which now you take a position that you were a 0:08:34.000 --> 0:08:36.040 little unsure of just because of the idea of depth, 0:08:36.120 --> 0:08:37.880 and you know what if there are injuries and now 0:08:37.960 --> 0:08:41.160 you shored up with two guys who both bring versatility, 0:08:41.520 --> 0:08:44.040 and now suddenly you feel so much better about where 0:08:44.120 --> 0:08:45.360 you could move everybody in the. 0:08:45.400 --> 0:08:47.000 Depth and what that could look like. 0:08:47.320 --> 0:08:49.880 All right, So now let's move to our fourth round pick, 0:08:50.160 --> 0:08:53.079 outside linebacker David Walker out of Central Arkansas. 0:08:53.160 --> 0:08:54.040 What did you like about this guy? 0:08:54.120 --> 0:08:56.760 Well, so, first of all, David Walker was just productive. 0:08:56.800 --> 0:08:58.959 And if you're going to play at a level like 0:08:59.080 --> 0:09:02.520 Central Arkansas, that level you really have to dominate consistently 0:09:02.800 --> 0:09:05.240 to be on teams radars for the draft, because you 0:09:05.320 --> 0:09:07.400 can't just you can't play at that level and just 0:09:07.559 --> 0:09:10.800 sometimes be dominant. You have to dominate consistently and then 0:09:10.920 --> 0:09:14.400 still teams are gonna worry. Can they do that at 0:09:14.400 --> 0:09:17.240 a higher level? Will translate And that's why it's important 0:09:17.280 --> 0:09:19.679 that David Walker went to the Senior Bowl and just 0:09:19.800 --> 0:09:22.800 absolutely dominated there as well. And so that answered a 0:09:22.840 --> 0:09:25.560 lot of questions for obviously Buck Scouts and some others 0:09:25.559 --> 0:09:28.160 around the league that this is a guy who can 0:09:28.280 --> 0:09:31.640 produce like he did at Central Arkansas at this level 0:09:31.720 --> 0:09:33.520 and to get that guy in the fourth round if 0:09:33.559 --> 0:09:35.440 he can produce anywhere near that level. 0:09:35.520 --> 0:09:37.600 Thirty nine sacks, that's an insane number. 0:09:37.679 --> 0:09:37.880 Yeat. 0:09:37.920 --> 0:09:39.280 His stat line blew my mind off. 0:09:39.320 --> 0:09:41.880 The thirty nine sacks, eighty two and a half tackles 0:09:41.960 --> 0:09:44.560 for loss, Yeah, two hundred and forty four tackles, six 0:09:44.679 --> 0:09:46.680 force fumbles, eight passes defense. 0:09:47.520 --> 0:09:48.520 That is a stat line. 0:09:48.600 --> 0:09:49.839 And so you're right, like, if you're going to be 0:09:49.880 --> 0:09:51.480 playing at that level, that's the stat line you want 0:09:51.520 --> 0:09:54.000 to see. But I did love that sack number because 0:09:54.200 --> 0:09:57.760 of the finishing clearly that he has of where I mean, yeah, 0:09:57.840 --> 0:09:59.959 there's he's clearly not only getting to the quarter of 0:10:00.360 --> 0:10:01.160 but getting them down. 0:10:01.320 --> 0:10:02.320 And that's what we want to see. 0:10:02.240 --> 0:10:05.120 Is those finishes, especially off the edge, especially off the 0:10:05.240 --> 0:10:08.319 edge like that, and Bowles has really emphasized, like, man, 0:10:08.400 --> 0:10:10.160 we've got to be able to get that rush before 0:10:10.679 --> 0:10:12.800 and to see a guy like this who clearly knows 0:10:12.840 --> 0:10:14.600 how to get there and finish a play, I think 0:10:14.640 --> 0:10:15.400 that's really exciting. 0:10:15.480 --> 0:10:18.360 Yeah, and I don't think the Buccaneers have to rely 0:10:18.640 --> 0:10:21.920 on hitting an absolute grand slam right off the bat 0:10:21.960 --> 0:10:25.000 with David Walker because they are comfortable with their depth 0:10:25.080 --> 0:10:28.719 there before and after drafting David Walker. Hassan Reddick, I 0:10:28.760 --> 0:10:30.640 think really makes them feel a lot more comfortable. Yeah. 0:10:30.720 --> 0:10:33.600 Yeah's going into his third year and is progressing upwards. 0:10:34.440 --> 0:10:37.040 They think Chris Braswell can take a step forward. This time, 0:10:37.080 --> 0:10:41.520 you still got Anthony Nelson. They feel like the pieces 0:10:41.520 --> 0:10:43.560 are there to have a decent but it passed rush 0:10:43.640 --> 0:10:45.280 edge rush, but it's always good to get more. 0:10:45.559 --> 0:10:48.400 I wouldn't be surprised if the Hassan Reddick signing is 0:10:48.480 --> 0:10:51.600 what allowed them to draft a mecha Abuka that like, Yeah, 0:10:51.800 --> 0:10:53.760 I think that I can see that that would have 0:10:53.800 --> 0:10:55.559 been the thing that makes them go, Okay, we now 0:10:55.640 --> 0:10:58.160 don't have to do this out of a true like 0:10:58.440 --> 0:11:01.160 kind of desperation need situation that as much as there 0:11:01.200 --> 0:11:03.920 were things on defense we knew that they wanted to address. 0:11:04.280 --> 0:11:06.280 I almost feel like that could have directly correlated to 0:11:06.320 --> 0:11:08.200 getting to just and then you still get to address 0:11:08.440 --> 0:11:10.920 edge later, but maybe you didn't feel that first or 0:11:10.920 --> 0:11:11.760 second round pressure. 0:11:11.760 --> 0:11:14.600 It's the same thing with linebacker, with signing Anthony Walker 0:11:14.640 --> 0:11:16.640 and getting Servasi, a dentist back from injury. 0:11:16.760 --> 0:11:18.559 Yeah, So David Walker, I think is an exciting one. 0:11:18.840 --> 0:11:22.560 Next up, fifth round, Elijah Roberts, defensive line out of SMU, 0:11:22.960 --> 0:11:23.720 my dad's. 0:11:23.400 --> 0:11:25.480 Alma mater, T guy. 0:11:27.040 --> 0:11:29.600 I think this was an indication of really the depth 0:11:29.840 --> 0:11:33.080 of defensive interior defensive lineman in this draft. It may 0:11:33.120 --> 0:11:35.760 have been the deepest position overall. You saw those guys 0:11:35.840 --> 0:11:38.520 going in every round right off right from Kenneth Grant 0:11:39.080 --> 0:11:41.120 and Mason Graham at the top of the draft, and 0:11:41.160 --> 0:11:44.640 on and on. Round after round, teams getting interior defensive 0:11:44.679 --> 0:11:46.719 linement they like, and so there was still one that 0:11:46.760 --> 0:11:49.199 the Buccaneers liked very much. In the fifth round in 0:11:49.360 --> 0:11:53.040 Elijah Roberts from SMU. And it was funny because I 0:11:53.160 --> 0:11:54.880 talked to Mike Beial right after the pick and he 0:11:55.000 --> 0:11:56.600 was giving me some insight on what type of player 0:11:56.640 --> 0:11:59.360 he was, and he had just seen a tweet from 0:11:59.480 --> 0:12:01.959 Pro Football Focus about him. And it was funny for 0:12:02.120 --> 0:12:05.000 me the rest of that afternoon evening to see various 0:12:05.000 --> 0:12:07.920 people in the organization here come across that tweet because 0:12:07.920 --> 0:12:11.360 they're looking for information on this newest player, and everybody's like, wait, 0:12:11.520 --> 0:12:14.120 is this true? And I kept seeing that in different 0:12:14.240 --> 0:12:18.880 forms because it PFF said he led the entire FBS 0:12:19.360 --> 0:12:21.640 over the last two years, combining with one hundred and 0:12:21.679 --> 0:12:24.320 thirty one quarterback pressures. That's incredible at every position. 0:12:26.360 --> 0:12:29.240 One thirty college football like wild. 0:12:29.600 --> 0:12:32.000 It's a wild stat. It's a crazy stat. And it 0:12:32.080 --> 0:12:34.040 was just so fun seeing people come across. They wanted 0:12:34.120 --> 0:12:37.640 for the other and you know, you're talking about a 0:12:37.720 --> 0:12:39.480 guy that's probably gonna play, he's probably going to be 0:12:39.520 --> 0:12:41.240 in your rotation, and get that in the fifth round. 0:12:41.280 --> 0:12:44.240 I think, again, this is just showing how this you know, 0:12:44.320 --> 0:12:46.880 you take the receiver at you take that premium position 0:12:46.920 --> 0:12:48.319 and player you love in the first round and you 0:12:48.400 --> 0:12:49.720 still hit the needs you wanted. 0:12:49.760 --> 0:12:50.400 It's a big deal. 0:12:50.520 --> 0:12:53.040 And still I mean seventeen and a half sacks over 0:12:53.040 --> 0:12:54.600 the last two seasons too, so it's not like he's 0:12:54.640 --> 0:12:56.760 only pressure and like he was, he was getting there 0:12:56.760 --> 0:12:57.800 and finishing that as well. 0:12:57.880 --> 0:13:00.719 And I thought it was interesting that might be also. 0:13:00.440 --> 0:13:02.120 Said that he played a little bit on the edge 0:13:02.440 --> 0:13:05.679 he did in college, and he was like, you know, 0:13:05.920 --> 0:13:07.520 maybe there's a chance he can play out there a 0:13:07.520 --> 0:13:09.240 little bit too. But again going back to how much 0:13:09.280 --> 0:13:11.240 Bulls loves that versatility. If you're seeing b to a 0:13:11.320 --> 0:13:14.199 occasionally drop like you know, I just know that no 0:13:14.320 --> 0:13:16.800 matter where on that defense, he loves guys that he 0:13:16.920 --> 0:13:19.560 can figure out ways to surprise the offense with stuff. 0:13:19.800 --> 0:13:22.080 So a guy like this where yeah, like Beale said, like, yeah, 0:13:22.080 --> 0:13:23.839 he's gonna be in the defensive line room, he's not 0:13:23.920 --> 0:13:25.880 an edge, But how cool that he has done a 0:13:25.920 --> 0:13:26.439 little bit of both. 0:13:26.720 --> 0:13:28.400 When they talk about doing that, I think they mostly 0:13:28.440 --> 0:13:31.079 talked about third downs. So you still you probably want 0:13:31.200 --> 0:13:33.520 as much as possible at Vdavey and college CANCI in 0:13:33.559 --> 0:13:36.679 there when your even fronts, when you have just four 0:13:36.760 --> 0:13:39.600 guys rushing the passer, and again you have your edge 0:13:39.640 --> 0:13:41.520 rush rotation, but you could always use more. And if 0:13:41.600 --> 0:13:44.040 some of those stats are snaps are occasionally taken up 0:13:44.080 --> 0:13:46.960 by a guy like Elijah Roberts maybe playing a little 0:13:47.000 --> 0:13:51.599 bit on the edge in those obvious passing situations, you 0:13:51.679 --> 0:13:53.959 know you can get more pass rushers on the field. 0:13:53.800 --> 0:13:54.120 All right. 0:13:54.120 --> 0:13:56.959 And then finally, seventh round, we did not have a 0:13:57.000 --> 0:13:59.640 sixth rounder because that was part of the trade with 0:13:59.800 --> 0:14:03.800 Carlton Davis with the Lions. So seventh rounder tes Johnson 0:14:03.960 --> 0:14:06.800 Tesmanian devil, which I love. Course he talked about that 0:14:06.920 --> 0:14:08.920 of that that's why he's got that thing that says 0:14:08.960 --> 0:14:11.120 to the Tasmanian Devil around his neck. And he's wide 0:14:11.160 --> 0:14:12.720 receiver slash punt returner out of. 0:14:12.720 --> 0:14:14.600 Oregon, slash Bucky. 0:14:14.880 --> 0:14:17.600 Slash Bucky Irving's best round. I'm like, that's reason alone 0:14:17.679 --> 0:14:19.640 to draft him. You know, give give Bucky his best 0:14:19.720 --> 0:14:22.720 round up here. So yeah, I mean, one hundred and 0:14:22.760 --> 0:14:26.000 sixty nine catches twenty touchdowns in this Oregon offense these 0:14:26.080 --> 0:14:28.600 last two seasons. This is another guy that we think 0:14:28.680 --> 0:14:31.880 is available maybe later than you would have thought because 0:14:31.920 --> 0:14:34.360 of just his size, and man, I will take a 0:14:34.520 --> 0:14:36.320 guy that is smaller with that chip on his shoulder 0:14:36.480 --> 0:14:38.080 any day. I mean, I feel like I've heard so 0:14:38.160 --> 0:14:39.320 many guys on our team, if they. 0:14:39.280 --> 0:14:41.760 Are undersized, talk about what a motivating factor that is. 0:14:42.680 --> 0:14:43.840 But yeah, I mean this, this guy. 0:14:43.760 --> 0:14:45.360 Seems like a playmaker that We've got to set of 0:14:45.400 --> 0:14:48.280 reactions in the media afterwards, and they did feel like 0:14:48.360 --> 0:14:50.480 it was a steal, and you know, some of them 0:14:50.480 --> 0:14:51.960 were as high as I would have taken this guy 0:14:52.000 --> 0:14:54.760 in the third round because of production. Now, obviously you 0:14:55.040 --> 0:14:57.480 said it. The reason is he's five to four. I mean, sorry, 0:14:57.600 --> 0:15:00.200 he's not. I was like, whoa, and fifty f four 0:15:00.280 --> 0:15:01.480 pounds is what I meant to say. 0:15:01.680 --> 0:15:03.320 He's like, okay, now I might understand. 0:15:03.400 --> 0:15:08.760 Yeah, fifty four pounds and his forty His official forty 0:15:08.840 --> 0:15:10.880 yard tash time was four point five one, which is, 0:15:11.160 --> 0:15:12.560 you know, pretty good. I wish I could run a 0:15:12.560 --> 0:15:15.320 four or five one, but it's not that absolute off 0:15:15.360 --> 0:15:17.640 the chart speed that would go. Okay, he's maybe only 0:15:17.680 --> 0:15:19.560 on fifty four pounds, but he runs a four point 0:15:19.600 --> 0:15:21.720 two eight. No, he runs a nice four point five one. 0:15:21.800 --> 0:15:24.520 But everybody says he plays a lot faster than that 0:15:24.640 --> 0:15:26.960 forty time, and you see it. I think the tape 0:15:27.040 --> 0:15:29.040 is the best thing to go to with him because there's. 0:15:28.840 --> 0:15:29.800 Always what matters more. 0:15:29.880 --> 0:15:31.640 There's tons of people who can run fast, but it 0:15:31.720 --> 0:15:33.440 doesn't show up in the game, and the game is. 0:15:33.440 --> 0:15:33.960 Where it matters. 0:15:34.000 --> 0:15:35.400 Is you see him turning cornerbacks. 0:15:35.400 --> 0:15:38.000 Forty yard dashes are not deciding an overtime game for us. 0:15:38.960 --> 0:15:41.560 You see him getting separation really quickly. You see him 0:15:41.560 --> 0:15:44.920 turning cornerbacks around. So he's a really good route runner. 0:15:45.000 --> 0:15:47.280 He's a very sudden player. He might help in the 0:15:47.640 --> 0:15:49.840 in the punt return. He said that punk return game 0:15:49.920 --> 0:15:50.200 is mine. 0:15:50.560 --> 0:15:53.200 Oh, I love it. Yeah, he seems fun. I'm exciting, 0:15:53.280 --> 0:15:54.120 a lot of fun. Yeah. 0:15:54.160 --> 0:15:56.960 Rob McCartney, assistant general manager, said he doesn't play four 0:15:57.000 --> 0:15:58.480