WEBVTT - The Fifth Hour: An Author & a Fighter 0:00:00.840 --> 0:00:01.600 Kubbooms. 0:00:02.440 --> 0:00:05.520 If you thought four hours a day, twelve hundred minutes 0:00:05.559 --> 0:00:09.320 a week was enough, think again. He's the last remnants 0:00:09.360 --> 0:00:12.640 of the Old Republic, a soul fashion of fairness. He 0:00:12.720 --> 0:00:15.640 treats crackheads in the ghetto cutter the same as the 0:00:15.760 --> 0:00:17.640 rich pill poppers in the penthouse. 0:00:18.200 --> 0:00:18.560 Wow. 0:00:18.720 --> 0:00:22.440 The clearing House of Hot takes break free for something special. 0:00:22.800 --> 0:00:30.920 The Fifth Hour with Ben Maller starts right now. 0:00:29.080 --> 0:00:31.200 In the air everywhere. 0:00:31.280 --> 0:00:34.120 The Fifth Hour with Me, Ben Maller and Danny G 0:00:34.320 --> 0:00:37.519 Radio who is away And we have another Danny. We're 0:00:37.520 --> 0:00:40.000 gonna welcome here in a second. But it is the 0:00:40.440 --> 0:00:43.919 eighteenth day of a The NBA playoffs begin tomorrow, and 0:00:44.000 --> 0:00:48.559 I am not into the playing experience, so we'll focus 0:00:48.600 --> 0:00:51.960 on that when the time comes. But hanging out with us, 0:00:52.000 --> 0:00:54.760 and we're gonna take you on a wild journey through 0:00:54.800 --> 0:00:58.440 the time space continuum. Another Danny, not Danny G, but 0:00:58.800 --> 0:01:02.080 Danny Efron, who I should I should preface this by saying, 0:01:02.440 --> 0:01:04.920 you have insider information, Danny, because I have known you 0:01:04.920 --> 0:01:08.200 your entire life and you have known me my entire life, 0:01:08.280 --> 0:01:09.240 because we were related. 0:01:09.760 --> 0:01:11.880 So exactly, we. 0:01:12.480 --> 0:01:15.680 Go back, we go back, and you've got a crazy 0:01:15.720 --> 0:01:18.240 story that I've actually kind of told your story a 0:01:18.280 --> 0:01:20.240 little bit, Danny, but I haven't gone into the full 0:01:20.319 --> 0:01:22.959 depth of your story. So you're going to hang out 0:01:22.959 --> 0:01:28.000 with us, and you are you consider yourself a New Yorker? 0:01:28.040 --> 0:01:30.400 You were not born in New York, but you grew up. 0:01:30.480 --> 0:01:33.720 I do consider myself a New Yorker because my formative 0:01:33.840 --> 0:01:37.160 years were all spent in New York from seven to eighteen, so, 0:01:37.800 --> 0:01:41.000 you know, going through my bar Mitzvah adolescence, you know, 0:01:41.160 --> 0:01:45.160 being a huge sports fan, playing high school ball. You know, yeah, 0:01:45.720 --> 0:01:48.400 New York was it for me. So I still claim 0:01:48.440 --> 0:01:48.840 New York. 0:01:49.320 --> 0:01:51.800 Yes, And I have given you our time because, unlike 0:01:51.880 --> 0:01:55.360 like all the other New York people, usually if you're 0:01:55.400 --> 0:01:58.080 a if you're a Yankees fan, you're a Giants fan, 0:01:58.200 --> 0:02:01.040 and if you're a Mets fan, you're you're a Jets fan. 0:02:01.080 --> 0:02:02.639 But you've crossed the streams, Danny. 0:02:03.000 --> 0:02:05.720 I have. Yeah, Well, it's a Yankees fan because I 0:02:05.720 --> 0:02:08.440 grew up right on that side of you know, Westsire County, 0:02:08.480 --> 0:02:11.720 like twenty minutes from the stadium. And then I'm a 0:02:11.760 --> 0:02:15.040 Jets fan because my best friend growing up had season 0:02:15.120 --> 0:02:17.120 tickets to the Jets, so he would take me every Sunday. 0:02:17.160 --> 0:02:18.600 So I have a lot of heartache on that side. 0:02:18.840 --> 0:02:21.440 There you go, if you had had a Giants fan 0:02:21.520 --> 0:02:23.440 here you you would have been a Giants fan and 0:02:23.480 --> 0:02:24.240 all that exactly. 0:02:24.480 --> 0:02:26.680 Trust me. After this last couple of seasons, I'm kind 0:02:26.680 --> 0:02:27.720 of mad at my friend for that. 0:02:27.880 --> 0:02:30.360 But I know you were actually you actually believed you 0:02:30.400 --> 0:02:32.400 were drinking the kool aid, the green kool aid for 0:02:32.480 --> 0:02:33.320 Aaron Rodgers. 0:02:34.080 --> 0:02:37.480 Yeah, yes, I was big time. I got the jersey 0:02:37.520 --> 0:02:38.040 and everything. 0:02:38.480 --> 0:02:42.040 Yeah. And now, well obviously it didn't work out so well. 0:02:42.080 --> 0:02:46.200 And hey, you are a next fan and the next begin. Hey, tomorrow, 0:02:46.360 --> 0:02:48.680 the Knicks are a seven point favorite. 0:02:48.720 --> 0:02:50.799 Now, I don't know, Danny. 0:02:50.880 --> 0:02:53.560 The Knicks did not exactly impress me down the stretch here. 0:02:53.600 --> 0:02:55.880 They they should beat the Pistons. 0:02:55.880 --> 0:02:59.480 But yeah, I hear you. I think they'll beat the Pistons. 0:02:59.520 --> 0:03:02.080 I don't think, you know, championships on our plate this year, 0:03:02.120 --> 0:03:05.239 but I think that we were full health nil Mitchell 0:03:05.320 --> 0:03:08.360 Robinson's back. I think I think we can go through 0:03:08.400 --> 0:03:10.679 the Pistons pretty. I wouldn't say his light work, but 0:03:10.720 --> 0:03:13.240 I would say five or six games. 0:03:12.800 --> 0:03:14.760 Five or six games, all right, there you go put 0:03:14.800 --> 0:03:18.200 your money down. Nix are favorite by seven seven in 0:03:18.240 --> 0:03:22.600 the first game. Today's National World Amateur Radio Day. I 0:03:22.600 --> 0:03:26.200 had to mention that because my dad and your uncle Danny, 0:03:26.240 --> 0:03:30.560 this was his life's passion, was ham radio and today's 0:03:30.840 --> 0:03:33.440 National Ham Radio. There is a day for everything but 0:03:33.720 --> 0:03:37.960 National hand Radio today Today eighteen eighty eight, somebody named 0:03:37.960 --> 0:03:40.120 Henry Henry Rudolph. I don't even know who that is, 0:03:40.120 --> 0:03:44.280 but he proved the existence of radio waves, which in 0:03:44.360 --> 0:03:48.080 many ways, not only my it was my dad's hobby, 0:03:48.080 --> 0:03:51.760 but my entire professional career has been based on on 0:03:51.920 --> 0:03:54.560 most of the radio stuff. So but yeah, so national. 0:03:54.600 --> 0:03:56.640 I don't know how you celebrate National Ham Radio Day. 0:03:56.640 --> 0:03:58.240 I don't know. We have some Ham radio guys. 0:03:58.280 --> 0:03:59.760 I don't know. I guess us the Morse code a 0:03:59.760 --> 0:04:00.280 little bit. 0:04:00.840 --> 0:04:01.600 That was my problem. 0:04:01.600 --> 0:04:03.560 You know. My dad wanted me to get into Ham radio, 0:04:03.560 --> 0:04:05.360 and I back in those days when I was a kid, 0:04:05.400 --> 0:04:07.720 you had to get a license, and I was so stupid. 0:04:07.760 --> 0:04:11.240 I couldn't figure out Morse code. I couldn't. I couldn't 0:04:11.240 --> 0:04:11.760 figure it out. 0:04:11.800 --> 0:04:13.600 It's so if now I don't think you have to 0:04:13.600 --> 0:04:15.040 do it anymore. I think I probably get a Ham 0:04:15.160 --> 0:04:17.359 radio license now, but when I was younger, like I 0:04:17.360 --> 0:04:20.919 can be on a commercial radio and that's fine, but 0:04:21.040 --> 0:04:23.520 actual like Ham radio, I'm not qualified. 0:04:23.600 --> 0:04:26.440 I wasn't at the time, so and yeah. 0:04:26.279 --> 0:04:28.719 Yeah, I think you probably chose a better route though. 0:04:28.800 --> 0:04:31.960 Well financially it's not. Okay, it's been a it's been 0:04:31.960 --> 0:04:32.600 a while. 0:04:33.000 --> 0:04:36.120 It's a there's also National Animal Cracker Day today on 0:04:36.120 --> 0:04:38.320 this Friday, so National Cracker Day. 0:04:38.440 --> 0:04:38.560 Now. 0:04:38.600 --> 0:04:41.120 The great thing about animal crackers, Danny, is they give 0:04:41.160 --> 0:04:43.520 you a giant bag of them. Right, It's like the 0:04:43.560 --> 0:04:46.960 biggest bat. It's like the size of Florida. The bag 0:04:47.000 --> 0:04:48.960 of animal crackers. You get, right, it's awesome. 0:04:49.120 --> 0:04:50.960 Oh yeah, and they got all different kinds. They got 0:04:51.000 --> 0:04:53.920 the frosted ones, they got the sprinkled ones. So big 0:04:54.200 --> 0:04:55.040 animal crackers. 0:04:55.080 --> 0:04:56.680 There you go. Did you know those go back to 0:04:56.720 --> 0:05:01.640 the uh the animal crackers mid eighteen made eighteen. 0:05:01.960 --> 0:05:02.960 It's been around for a while. 0:05:03.800 --> 0:05:06.240 Wow, I expect that. But yeah. 0:05:06.440 --> 0:05:10.280 They were invented in the United Kingdom and then actually 0:05:10.600 --> 0:05:15.560 eventually exported to to America and they the first commercial. 0:05:16.000 --> 0:05:17.279 This is the kind of crap we do in the 0:05:17.279 --> 0:05:21.239 fifth hour, Dany. Yeah, out here, the Great Danny Efron 0:05:21.240 --> 0:05:24.840 hanging out with us. But the first commercial produce for 0:05:24.920 --> 0:05:27.800 animal crackers was eighteen seventy one. 0:05:28.040 --> 0:05:32.000 So that was in New York, Pennsylvania and there. 0:05:32.520 --> 0:05:35.680 And when you say commercial, was it, like, uh, I 0:05:35.680 --> 0:05:37.080 mean was it? I'm trying to. 0:05:38.600 --> 0:05:40.480 Must have been a newspapers, right, because there was no. 0:05:41.040 --> 0:05:43.080 Well exactly, yeah, it had to be a newspaper. 0:05:43.120 --> 0:05:45.159 There was no There was no radio. There was no 0:05:45.279 --> 0:05:48.160 television radio. 0:05:48.360 --> 0:05:50.279 I mean, maybe there's a guy in the streets is yelling, 0:05:50.400 --> 0:05:51.839 but yeah, there you go. 0:05:51.880 --> 0:05:54.760 I just go down and get those things in scream, 0:05:54.880 --> 0:05:58.680 start screaming, and the town crier. Yeah, that's right, the 0:05:58.720 --> 0:06:00.760 town that's the way to go. You gotta do the 0:06:00.800 --> 0:06:05.599 town crier for sure. So anyway, you know your part. 0:06:05.720 --> 0:06:07.840 Now you've had an amazing ser I often on the 0:06:07.920 --> 0:06:11.839 radio show, I will mock people. They'll they'll say the 0:06:11.920 --> 0:06:15.560 Willis Reid game, you know, they'll talk about some athlete 0:06:16.120 --> 0:06:19.960 overcoming adversity and they'll they'll go on and I roll 0:06:20.000 --> 0:06:23.400 my eyes. I roll my eyes when I see that stuff. 0:06:23.440 --> 0:06:25.479 I say, oh, come on, that's just hyperbole. 0:06:26.080 --> 0:06:28.240 What are you doing? You know, it's nonsense. 0:06:28.520 --> 0:06:30.880 And one of the reasons I bring that up is 0:06:30.920 --> 0:06:36.919 because your story, Danny, is insane. It is awesome, it 0:06:36.960 --> 0:06:38.599 is fantastic. I think people need to hear about it. 0:06:38.600 --> 0:06:41.600 I've told it a little bit, but my man, you 0:06:41.800 --> 0:06:45.960 have you talk about a roller coaster h in life, 0:06:46.279 --> 0:06:49.200 and you have been able to ride the roller coaster, 0:06:49.320 --> 0:06:52.000 and you've had some real downs. You've had some some 0:06:52.040 --> 0:06:55.240 greats that have happened. But we need to tell your story. 0:06:55.320 --> 0:06:57.480 So you have had well, I want you to tell 0:06:57.480 --> 0:07:01.000 your story, but you've had some two major, really bad 0:07:01.120 --> 0:07:02.719 things that have happened. 0:07:02.800 --> 0:07:04.920 That a lot of people would not have recovered from. 0:07:05.040 --> 0:07:06.479 Explain what happened. 0:07:07.160 --> 0:07:11.520 So I am a two time glioblastoma brain cancer survivor 0:07:11.560 --> 0:07:15.040 for the most aggressive form of cancer. I was first 0:07:15.080 --> 0:07:18.120 told in twenty fifteen I had two to five years 0:07:18.120 --> 0:07:21.400 to live. I of course would not accept that timeline. 0:07:22.320 --> 0:07:27.120 I thought, did everything I could, changed my diet, researched, ever, 0:07:27.280 --> 0:07:31.040 cancer fighting remedy, went to traditional method. I was cancer 0:07:31.080 --> 0:07:34.360 free for seven years, and then in twenty twenty two, 0:07:35.240 --> 0:07:39.080 cancer came back, this time with a vengeance against stage 0:07:39.120 --> 0:07:44.000 four glioblastoma, and I had a stroke this time as well. 0:07:44.080 --> 0:07:47.480 So not only did I have to have surgery and 0:07:48.000 --> 0:07:51.480 you know radiation. But I suffered a massive stroke that 0:07:51.600 --> 0:07:55.920 left me hallucinating for three months. It got to the point, 0:07:55.960 --> 0:07:57.760 you know where I was. I look at myself in 0:07:57.800 --> 0:07:59.200 the mirror and looked like the left side of my 0:07:59.240 --> 0:08:01.280 face was blown up off with the shotgun. I'd look 0:08:01.320 --> 0:08:04.640 at my son and his face looked like smeared shut. 0:08:04.920 --> 0:08:08.240 I was a horror show I was living in, really, 0:08:09.200 --> 0:08:11.560 But you know, I power through because one thing I 0:08:11.600 --> 0:08:13.800 believe in is fighting. You fight what gets in front 0:08:13.800 --> 0:08:16.320 of you. You fight to be successful, and that is 0:08:16.360 --> 0:08:19.120 what I do. So after that, you know, I was 0:08:19.240 --> 0:08:21.440 basically blind for three months. It's kind of like on 0:08:21.480 --> 0:08:24.960 a sliding scale. It got from better to basically where 0:08:25.000 --> 0:08:26.680 I just had a pinhole vision. The rest was like 0:08:26.680 --> 0:08:29.800 a kaleidoscope of color where I was able to heal myself. 0:08:29.800 --> 0:08:32.320 And then three months later or six months later, I 0:08:32.360 --> 0:08:35.760 was standing in front of Congress helping pass cancer fighting 0:08:35.840 --> 0:08:39.440 legislation and passing over ten billion dollars in research funding 0:08:39.600 --> 0:08:43.559 and prevention legislation. That is all I've Yeah, I've made 0:08:43.600 --> 0:08:45.319 the most out of what the hand that was given 0:08:45.320 --> 0:08:47.640 to me. And in honor of of course, your aunt, 0:08:47.800 --> 0:08:51.480 your uncle, and my aunt, your mother. You know, cancer 0:08:51.520 --> 0:08:54.760 has played a huge role, unfortunately in our lives and 0:08:54.800 --> 0:08:57.720 then but you know it affected me on such a deeper, 0:08:57.800 --> 0:09:00.640 lever but level. But you know I made most that 0:09:00.679 --> 0:09:02.880 I fight through, you know, lahaian to life. You know, 0:09:03.040 --> 0:09:04.800 make the best out of it. So that's what I do. 0:09:05.559 --> 0:09:08.800 Yeah. No, And and so you get that diagnosis. I 0:09:08.800 --> 0:09:10.640 mean that's like, that's like the you know, you're like, 0:09:10.640 --> 0:09:12.600 holy crap, you know, dude, what do you do? But 0:09:12.640 --> 0:09:16.280 then you overcame it the first time, and I need 0:09:16.320 --> 0:09:18.840 to get into the because I I'm gonna I'm gonna put. 0:09:18.679 --> 0:09:19.920 Myself in your story. 0:09:19.960 --> 0:09:23.480 Okay, So when you got diagnosed the second time with cancer, 0:09:23.800 --> 0:09:25.199 we were all like, you know, when I found out 0:09:25.200 --> 0:09:26.520 about we were all freaking. I was like, dude, I 0:09:26.520 --> 0:09:28.360 got to see my guy, my my my cousin. So 0:09:28.400 --> 0:09:31.920 you were living in Phoenix at the time. So I 0:09:32.000 --> 0:09:35.079 left on like a Friday just to go hang out 0:09:35.080 --> 0:09:36.760 with you, like just to go to Phoenix for the day. 0:09:37.360 --> 0:09:40.199 And if you remember, I was I was in your 0:09:40.240 --> 0:09:41.920 house when you had a freaking stroke. 0:09:42.280 --> 0:09:45.440 I didn't even were there, that's right, Like, what was 0:09:45.559 --> 0:09:48.320 crazy is I didn't even know I had a stroke 0:09:48.360 --> 0:09:51.440 get and then we were driving to the restaurant. I 0:09:51.480 --> 0:09:54.120 remember driving up the road with you. I wasn't driving, 0:09:54.120 --> 0:09:56.720 of course you were, but at one second it felt 0:09:56.720 --> 0:09:59.040 like I was going north the next bacon, and second 0:09:59.080 --> 0:10:00.720 I felt like I was going out. It was like 0:10:00.960 --> 0:10:03.040 my compass I was spinning and I didn't even know 0:10:03.120 --> 0:10:05.400 what was going on. And you were there. You were 0:10:05.440 --> 0:10:07.200 the first. You were the first one to see me 0:10:07.280 --> 0:10:09.760 with this stroke. And I remember telling you that I 0:10:09.880 --> 0:10:12.400 just the whole situation that just happened, and we were 0:10:12.440 --> 0:10:13.840 all like, you know, puzzled. 0:10:14.480 --> 0:10:15.200 Yeah, it was wild. 0:10:15.240 --> 0:10:18.000 So we we went to I think the Knicks were playing, 0:10:18.679 --> 0:10:20.920 and we were like watching the We were on your 0:10:20.960 --> 0:10:23.480 sofa watching the next game, and you were like really 0:10:23.559 --> 0:10:26.480 out of it, like you were. We were like maybe 0:10:26.480 --> 0:10:27.600 he did some acid or something. 0:10:27.640 --> 0:10:28.520 I don't know, I don't know what. 0:10:29.559 --> 0:10:30.200 I wish. 0:10:31.160 --> 0:10:32.439 I've never seen it, you. 0:10:32.400 --> 0:10:35.120 Know, standing I remember you telling you thought like you 0:10:35.120 --> 0:10:36.439 were seeing portals. 0:10:36.720 --> 0:10:38.040 It was like, yep, So. 0:10:38.080 --> 0:10:40.160 It was like I was in the movie Inception, Like 0:10:40.240 --> 0:10:43.360 my world kept like switching view on me. Uh So 0:10:43.480 --> 0:10:45.440 how it started, you know, right before you were coming 0:10:45.440 --> 0:10:47.520 to pick me up, I was in the bathroom and 0:10:47.600 --> 0:10:49.960 I kept reaching for the handle to get out, and 0:10:49.960 --> 0:10:52.400 I kept hitting a wall. It was like I had 0:10:52.480 --> 0:10:57.560 no proper field of views. Everything kept on changing, uh, 0:10:57.600 --> 0:11:00.679 and it was just wild. And I mean it got 0:11:00.720 --> 0:11:03.439 to the point where, you know, I kept seeing people 0:11:03.480 --> 0:11:05.120 on my left hand side. There was kind of like 0:11:05.160 --> 0:11:09.120 a ceiling fan always going on over me. And I 0:11:09.160 --> 0:11:11.760 mean I was just straight up hallucinating, just like right 0:11:11.760 --> 0:11:13.520 in front of my face. And I had to tell 0:11:13.559 --> 0:11:17.120 myself this isn't real because I like, for example, I 0:11:17.160 --> 0:11:18.720 looked in the mirror and looked like the left side 0:11:18.720 --> 0:11:20.600 of my face was blown off with the shotgun because 0:11:20.600 --> 0:11:23.319 I had a massive stroke in my baridal lobe, which 0:11:23.440 --> 0:11:26.040 was right where the vision sensors are as. 0:11:26.400 --> 0:11:27.360 Yeah, I remember that. 0:11:27.360 --> 0:11:28.920 We were like wow, I mean, I know he's got 0:11:28.920 --> 0:11:31.080 the brain cancer, but I mean this is like, really, 0:11:31.120 --> 0:11:32.920 this is like we didn't know what was going on. 0:11:32.960 --> 0:11:34.800 I mean, obviously you didn't know, and then you. 0:11:35.520 --> 0:11:38.680 And that actually turned out if I have the story right, 0:11:38.720 --> 0:11:41.679 and it's your story, but I think Danny, that actually 0:11:41.720 --> 0:11:43.920 turned out that stroke turned out in the long run 0:11:43.960 --> 0:11:46.720 to be a great a great mits Was that correct? 0:11:46.760 --> 0:11:48.760 Am I right on that or did I get that wrong. 0:11:48.840 --> 0:11:54.560 Ah, the stroke not well, I mean because it didn't 0:11:54.600 --> 0:11:59.200 really yeah, I mean, I guess in regards to my fight, 0:11:59.240 --> 0:12:01.640 in my resilience, and yes, that became a bits fun 0:12:01.920 --> 0:12:04.920 and it added to my story, but uh it was, 0:12:05.280 --> 0:12:07.360 yeah it was because. 0:12:07.679 --> 0:12:09.880 It wasn't it tied kind of like to your to 0:12:09.960 --> 0:12:12.640 your brain cancer. Right, that's what I Maybe I heard wrong, but. 0:12:12.760 --> 0:12:17.520 I guess I forgot there was something that uh it 0:12:17.640 --> 0:12:20.120 kind of Oh, that's right, that's right. I'm sorry, I 0:12:20.160 --> 0:12:22.880 know exactly what you're talking about. The stroke where it exploded. 0:12:22.920 --> 0:12:25.280 They said, could it be viewed as a positive sign 0:12:25.320 --> 0:12:27.600 because any remaining cancer it would have killed? 0:12:28.120 --> 0:12:30.000 Yeah, that's that's what I had heard. See, that's what 0:12:30.040 --> 0:12:32.280 I that's where I was going for because that is correct. 0:12:32.280 --> 0:12:34.280 And I apologized, Yes, that that is correct. 0:12:34.360 --> 0:12:34.520 Yeah. 0:12:34.600 --> 0:12:38.960 Yeah, so you had brain cancer and the story was 0:12:39.000 --> 0:12:41.560 the doctors I heard this a while back, but you 0:12:41.559 --> 0:12:45.600 would because of the stroke, like it was like a 0:12:45.600 --> 0:12:47.680 bullseye for the cancer in your brain. 0:12:48.559 --> 0:12:52.920 Exactly exactly. Yet that's essentially because with the stroke exploded 0:12:53.000 --> 0:12:56.040 right where the surgery was. And uh and this was 0:12:56.080 --> 0:12:58.600 like two weeks after surgery, you know, I was on 0:12:58.720 --> 0:13:01.120 radiation and radiation had nothing to do with the stroke. 0:13:01.320 --> 0:13:03.360 I just think, you know, I'm a busy body. I 0:13:03.360 --> 0:13:04.640 always like to move. I think I might have been 0:13:04.640 --> 0:13:07.480 a little too active, you know. But but yeah, you 0:13:07.520 --> 0:13:09.200 said like you said, it was a blessing in disguise 0:13:09.240 --> 0:13:13.560 because right where it exploded was where the cancer was. 0:13:13.679 --> 0:13:16.560 So ultimately, you know, all my scans since then have 0:13:16.720 --> 0:13:20.000 shown no cancer. So really, yeah, the blessing in this 0:13:20.040 --> 0:13:21.360 sky is absolutely right. 0:13:21.320 --> 0:13:21.720 There you go. 0:13:21.840 --> 0:13:23.840 And so that is See when you hear the willis 0:13:23.840 --> 0:13:25.960 Reid game or something like that, that's bull crap. 0:13:26.040 --> 0:13:28.280 See this is big kohone is here. This is big balls. 0:13:28.320 --> 0:13:31.520 Well you've been true here, not those guys and all 0:13:31.559 --> 0:13:34.520 that stuff. So so you've survived all that and you've 0:13:34.559 --> 0:13:35.520 changed your life a lot. 0:13:35.600 --> 0:13:36.480 I know your diet and all that. 0:13:36.480 --> 0:13:38.959 If you talked about this, you've been living really clean 0:13:39.040 --> 0:13:40.480 for what ten years at least? 0:13:40.520 --> 0:13:43.840 Yeah, for a long time. Yeah. I do a ketogenic diet. 0:13:43.920 --> 0:13:47.520 So like cancer sells feet off of sugar by eighteen percent, 0:13:48.160 --> 0:13:51.880 they increase cancer. So I have no sugar in my diet. 0:13:51.960 --> 0:13:54.440 I keep a ketogenic diet. I will do like windows 0:13:54.440 --> 0:13:57.439 of fasting as well, because fasting will fill your body 0:13:57.480 --> 0:14:01.120 into a stage called atophagy will be like cellulttle repair. 0:14:01.240 --> 0:14:03.520 So if you have like cancer cells, you'll kind of 0:14:03.559 --> 0:14:06.840 starve them because the thing about cancer cells is they 0:14:06.840 --> 0:14:09.640 can't repair themselves, and they try to so they try 0:14:09.679 --> 0:14:11.800 to feed off as much sugar. But if you starve 0:14:11.880 --> 0:14:14.679 them with your metabolism, you can actually, you know, I 0:14:15.040 --> 0:14:18.600 ultimately have those cancer cells seek their own death. So really, 0:14:18.840 --> 0:14:22.320 I dove into it, really explored every different option I could. 0:14:22.320 --> 0:14:24.880 You know, I even pivoted my career into the cancer space, 0:14:24.920 --> 0:14:27.560 which is where I work now. So yeah, I mean 0:14:27.560 --> 0:14:30.560 it was a defining moment for me. And you know, 0:14:30.680 --> 0:14:33.720 I'm here. I'm telling my story, you know, and I'll 0:14:33.720 --> 0:14:35.760 always keep fighting no matter what comes in my way. 0:14:35.800 --> 0:14:38.320 I'll get through. And I always tell people that, you know, 0:14:38.640 --> 0:14:41.040 you know, don't let things take you down. With cancer, 0:14:41.080 --> 0:14:43.160 a lot of times you'll have the old woes me 0:14:43.360 --> 0:14:46.400 moment and you'll go these support groups and it's very sad. Yeah, 0:14:46.440 --> 0:14:48.400 you can have a Woe's me moment, but that's not me. 0:14:48.640 --> 0:14:50.960 Like me, I'm a fighter. I go through it. And 0:14:50.960 --> 0:14:54.000 that's why I'm here today telling my story. And you know, 0:14:54.200 --> 0:14:56.520 I've had the worst of it, and I'm still here smiling, 0:14:56.640 --> 0:14:58.960 and God forbid anything comes up again. I will get 0:14:59.000 --> 0:15:00.160 through it because that's who I am. 0:15:00.640 --> 0:15:02.880 I hear you, man, I hear you, and the great 0:15:03.240 --> 0:15:03.960 Danny Efron. 0:15:03.960 --> 0:15:06.320 How about this now? You you mentioned you've been to Congress. 0:15:06.400 --> 0:15:09.640 That's that's crazy to me. You've spoken, right, you addressed. 0:15:09.160 --> 0:15:12.280 Members have I have as a Congress members. So I 0:15:12.320 --> 0:15:14.560 was actually on Capitol Hill twice and I have spoken 0:15:14.600 --> 0:15:17.960 four times before Congress members, but twice was during COVID. 0:15:18.520 --> 0:15:18.760 Uh. 0:15:18.800 --> 0:15:21.640 But yeah, I was on Capitol Hill, and I, like 0:15:21.720 --> 0:15:24.000 I said during my four times that I've helped pass 0:15:24.040 --> 0:15:29.160 over ten billion in cancer fighting legislation for research prevention methods, 0:15:29.160 --> 0:15:32.040 and I've also worked on some bills for uh you know, 0:15:32.160 --> 0:15:36.160 access to cancer care, access to clinical trials. So you know, 0:15:36.520 --> 0:15:39.960 I was given such a grim uh, such a basically 0:15:39.960 --> 0:15:42.920 a grim reality, and I've done everything I can to 0:15:43.080 --> 0:15:45.640 make the best out of it and promote change on 0:15:45.680 --> 0:15:49.240 a real tangible level. Uh. You know, thankfully, I'm I'm 0:15:49.280 --> 0:15:52.720 a national speaker. I'm a relationship builder. So I knew 0:15:52.760 --> 0:15:54.840 that if I use my skills and go into this 0:15:54.920 --> 0:15:58.200 space with my story, I could be successful. And it 0:15:58.240 --> 0:16:01.040 was really me just trying to help people like you 0:16:01.200 --> 0:16:03.400 Ben and me and myself who were going through and 0:16:03.440 --> 0:16:05.720 like losing our parents and of course I had to 0:16:05.720 --> 0:16:09.120 deal with it, you know firsthand, but uh, you know, 0:16:09.520 --> 0:16:12.080 doing everything I could can to make change and to 0:16:12.440 --> 0:16:15.840 you know, promote hopefully get that cancer sure, which I 0:16:15.840 --> 0:16:18.600 think we're closer to now than ever with quantum computers 0:16:18.640 --> 0:16:21.080 and AI so I think, uh, I think we'll get 0:16:21.080 --> 0:16:23.400 there soonerretta later. So I'm going to keep the fight, 0:16:23.720 --> 0:16:24.480 keep the work up. 0:16:24.760 --> 0:16:27.360 Yeah for sure, man, I mean, our our blood lines, 0:16:27.400 --> 0:16:29.840 your mom my, my mom. 0:16:30.000 --> 0:16:32.160 I mean, uh, I mean it's uh. 0:16:32.240 --> 0:16:34.680 You know, it's not not the greatest, but there's ways, 0:16:35.360 --> 0:16:37.880 you know, try to try to do better. 0:16:37.920 --> 0:16:40.520 But they we did. We didn't win the genetic lottery day, 0:16:41.440 --> 0:16:42.320 not at all. 0:16:42.320 --> 0:16:44.240 We got the intelligence though, which is good. 0:16:44.440 --> 0:16:46.360 We got some of that. We've got some. 0:16:46.440 --> 0:16:50.680 Of that, yeah, right, But the genetic yeah, the genes company, 0:16:51.000 --> 0:16:52.240 we came up short a little. 0:16:52.000 --> 0:16:53.480 Bit, a little bit, a little bit. 0:16:53.520 --> 0:16:55.920 So you're tell me about the Capitol Hill thing, because 0:16:55.920 --> 0:16:57.720 that's wild to me. So you've been there a couple 0:16:57.720 --> 0:16:59.680 of times, Like how how were you nervous? 0:16:59.720 --> 0:17:00.360 Like how nuts? 0:17:00.360 --> 0:17:02.440 So is that you're well, you're in front of all 0:17:02.480 --> 0:17:04.040 these political people. 0:17:03.840 --> 0:17:03.960 WI. 0:17:04.160 --> 0:17:07.359 What's crazy about me is this is since I was little, uh, 0:17:08.080 --> 0:17:11.720 whenever like the lights, camera actions, whenever somebody kicks into gear, 0:17:12.040 --> 0:17:14.320 like something just happens in me and I just I'll 0:17:14.320 --> 0:17:16.960 be nervous before, but boom, I just kick into gear 0:17:17.000 --> 0:17:19.480 and it's like, you know, everything else fades away and 0:17:19.560 --> 0:17:22.400 I just you know, can just really roll with it. 0:17:22.600 --> 0:17:24.520 And I was able to you know, meet with all 0:17:24.520 --> 0:17:28.080 these congress members talk to them. Really. Uh, it was 0:17:28.119 --> 0:17:31.439 really fun kind of tailoring my pitch to work certain 0:17:31.520 --> 0:17:34.440 sizes of the aisle. Of course, cancer is nonpartisan. I 0:17:34.440 --> 0:17:36.680 don't get into politics at all, but you know, it 0:17:36.720 --> 0:17:39.200 was really just me trying to figure out the best 0:17:39.240 --> 0:17:43.280 messaging to get this these fund this funding and this 0:17:43.400 --> 0:17:47.000 legislation passed, uh, to really you know, make a change 0:17:47.000 --> 0:17:49.439 in the cancer community. And uh, of course yeah, there 0:17:49.480 --> 0:17:52.000 was nerves involved, but once I was actually on the 0:17:52.080 --> 0:17:55.200 floor and talking to these congress members, I really all 0:17:55.200 --> 0:17:57.040 that kind of fade away and it was the mission 0:17:57.080 --> 0:17:57.520 at hand. 0:17:57.760 --> 0:18:02.120 So outstanding, outstanding, and and you've done something. I've done 0:18:02.160 --> 0:18:03.679 a lot of cool things and I've been lucky to 0:18:03.680 --> 0:18:05.560 do a lot of cool stuff, but I've one thing 0:18:05.640 --> 0:18:07.600 I have not been able to get done is to 0:18:07.600 --> 0:18:12.280 write a book. And you have a book, and it's like, 0:18:12.440 --> 0:18:17.040