1 00:00:02,200 --> 00:00:05,760 Speaker 1: Hello everyone, and welcome back to Bachelor Happy Hour. It's 2 00:00:05,840 --> 00:00:08,960 Speaker 1: Charity and I am joined today with Kathy from our 3 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:12,720 Speaker 1: sister podcast, Golden Hour. Rachel is not here with us. 4 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:15,680 Speaker 1: She is at a family funeral and we are sending. 5 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:16,160 Speaker 2: Her all the love. 6 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:19,119 Speaker 1: It's March twenty six, and obviously it has been a 7 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:22,440 Speaker 1: very very long week in Bacheloration and today we will 8 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:24,960 Speaker 1: be covering some sensitive topics and we want to give 9 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:26,920 Speaker 1: the disclaimer and flag that now. 10 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 3: Thank you Kathy for being here. 11 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 4: I'm happy to be there with you. 12 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 5: Charity. 13 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, so, as we know it, a lot really has 14 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 1: happened and transpired over the past week, and you know, 15 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 1: I think it's really important for us to be able 16 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 1: to come on here, to be transparent with our audience. 17 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 1: This franchise is fan base and really just talk about 18 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 1: everything as honest as we can. And you know, you 19 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 1: guys are a part of this franchise as much as 20 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 1: we are, and so that's really what me and Kathy 21 00:00:58,400 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 1: are going to do today. 22 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 4: I think I think it's only fair for us to 23 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:07,759 Speaker 4: talk about what we know, what we're feeling. 24 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 3: For me. 25 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:13,400 Speaker 4: We don't know, we're not you know, we're not Tailor, 26 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:16,680 Speaker 4: We're not in the middle of this. We're seeing what 27 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 4: everyone else has seen, We're seeing what we see online, 28 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 4: what we're reading, and clearly there's a lot of accusations 29 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:30,120 Speaker 4: flying and personally, I've had in my family a lot 30 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:34,960 Speaker 4: of issues around mental health issues in my own sphere, 31 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:40,200 Speaker 4: and I think that we as a as a a 32 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:44,480 Speaker 4: podcast community, as a part of the franchise that we 33 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 4: love so much, we need to be cognizantive fact and 34 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 4: hope that our listeners also understand this is sort of 35 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 4: unchartered territory and my support always will go to children. 36 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 4: I just feel like that's something that needs to be said. 37 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 2: No, I agree wholeheartedly. 38 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:09,919 Speaker 1: It is a tricky situation obviously, and you know, like 39 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:14,080 Speaker 1: you said, you have experience with mental health, as do 40 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 1: I a former therapists and specifically working with children and families. 41 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, the news itself was very. 42 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:27,240 Speaker 1: Hard to see and to hear about. But again, one 43 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 1: of those things that you know, for anyone I feel 44 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 1: like with you know, operating in a clear space or 45 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 1: as much as they can when you know news like 46 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 1: this transpires, is being very careful about you know, I 47 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:42,520 Speaker 1: don't want to say siding, but just kind of going 48 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 1: with the facts, and so obviously we are not a 49 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 1: part of that relationship nor that dynamic, and. 50 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 2: So we don't have all the facts. 51 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 1: We are also on the other side of everything and 52 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 1: learning everything kind of in real time with the rest 53 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 1: of the world, which is very hard. One of those 54 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 1: things I always say is like two things can't exist 55 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 1: at the same time. And I think, you know, you 56 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:09,960 Speaker 1: can acknowledge that something is not good, and you can 57 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 1: also acknowledge that, oh, you know, there's things that are 58 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 1: still unfolding, and. 59 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 4: I think I think it's you know, it's very easy 60 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 4: for people to judge other situations. Although my life is 61 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 4: very different from Taylor's, I feel like this this franchise 62 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:31,079 Speaker 4: is about love, and I feel that even though it's 63 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 4: a different story, Taylor deserves love. She deserves to find 64 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 4: that second chapter, third chapter, find that that man that 65 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 4: can bring her love and happiness while dealing with all 66 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 4: our other issues. So, you know, I was hoping and 67 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 4: I'm still hoping for a redemptive story from from this show. 68 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 4: We don't know, it's not canceled. You know, it's on 69 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 4: pause the show. Please people listen. The show has not 70 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 4: been canceled at this point. It is only on a pause, 71 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 4: it is not canceled. 72 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 2: Do you feel like for Taylor's sake, do you wish 73 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 2: that there was. 74 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 1: Maybe more time in between that, I mean filming, Well, if. 75 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 4: You just of course, I mean, that would be great, yeah, 76 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 4: had that been the case. But I think that again, 77 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:31,280 Speaker 4: I am not a therapist, but I did come from 78 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 4: a family of abuse, and I don't and I'm not 79 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 4: throwing darts at anyone because I don't have all the facts, 80 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:43,799 Speaker 4: but I can tell you to escape from abusive situations 81 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 4: is really tough to do, and so I think I'm 82 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:52,159 Speaker 4: not in Tailor's head space. But I feel like if 83 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 4: she thought she was ready, if she wanted that, it's 84 00:04:56,839 --> 00:05:00,480 Speaker 4: always easy to play Monday morning quarterback. You know, that's 85 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:03,839 Speaker 4: easy to say she wasn't ready. This happened. That happened. 86 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 4: So you know, I can't make those judgments. I mean, 87 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 4: in an ideal world, Charity, sure she would have her 88 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:14,599 Speaker 4: Oliver Ducks in a row. She would have dealt with 89 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 4: the issues that she's been dealing with for a few years. 90 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:21,279 Speaker 4: You know, life just doesn't hand us always neatly tied 91 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 4: packages and bows. I'm for sure the best we can 92 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 4: and I feel as a woman and a mom. I 93 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:33,840 Speaker 4: am supportive of her and I'm supportive of her story 94 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 4: and wanting her to have a great end to her 95 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:40,920 Speaker 4: story and find love. 96 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, did you have an opportunity to meet Taylor? 97 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 4: I have never met her, but I hope to. I 98 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 4: hope to meet Yeah. Yeah, I think, you know, I think, 99 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:55,840 Speaker 4: as I say, we don't know the full story. There's 100 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 4: there's a lot of people that have put a lot 101 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:02,040 Speaker 4: of time and I'm you know, all her guys on 102 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 4: the show, people have put a lot of time and energy, 103 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 4: and you were a lead, I have you have to 104 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 4: be a lead, but you know, never give up, never 105 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:15,599 Speaker 4: give up. But the stress of that, in addition to 106 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:16,840 Speaker 4: everything else that you. 107 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:17,720 Speaker 3: Know, that's gonna be a lot. 108 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 4: That's gonna be a lot too. And I don't think 109 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:22,280 Speaker 4: we should forget that fact either. 110 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 1: No, And I think that's what I always like take 111 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 1: into consideration is just like when I you know, when 112 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 1: I ask that question or when I prose that question. 113 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 2: It's. 114 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:35,840 Speaker 1: It's just like I obviously like, no, unless you have 115 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:38,479 Speaker 1: and I don't mean this in like a cocky way, 116 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 1: but like, unless you have been in the shoes of 117 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 1: a lead, no one really understands like how complex and 118 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 1: how exhausting it is on all fronts. 119 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:50,920 Speaker 2: And so that's why I asked that. 120 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 1: Because again I'm like, I'm rooting for everyone, always rooting 121 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:58,919 Speaker 1: for everyone to be in the best state of, you know, 122 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 1: their self, whatever it is. 123 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 4: I really do believe that Taylor wants to find stability 124 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 4: for her and her children. 125 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:08,719 Speaker 5: I believe that. 126 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 4: I think as a mom, you know, I've made mistakes, 127 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 4: believe me raising my kids. I'm not throwing any stones 128 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:20,679 Speaker 4: at anyone. I believe that her journey is a little 129 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 4: bit different, yeah than yours are mine. Yeah, but that 130 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 4: doesn't make it any less real, and it doesn't make 131 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 4: her journey to find love any less valid. 132 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 1: Okay, I'm going to reference back to what you just said, 133 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 1: Kathy about how you know you said life doesn't really 134 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 1: give you things wrapped in a bow. And while I 135 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 1: one percent agree with that, I think you know, in 136 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 1: this specific situation, we have to be like extremely mindful 137 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 1: of that, because yes, Taylor is deserving of love, and 138 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 1: I think at the end of the day, it is 139 00:07:56,840 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 1: we're all in the same page of like rooting for 140 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 1: her love. But I think coming from a place where 141 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 1: she is, you know, a mom of three, she has had, 142 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 1: you know, turmoil in her life, and she's you know, 143 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 1: trying to figure things out. I think she owes it 144 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 1: not only to herself, but most importantly to her kids 145 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 1: to enter this environment in the absolute best state. 146 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 2: Of being, best state of mind possible. 147 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 1: And if this was any other dating show, and granted 148 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 1: if she was not, again, I'm just going to continue 149 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 1: emphasizing her kids because I feel like that's the priority here. 150 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:33,079 Speaker 1: If this was any other dating show, it would be fine, 151 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 1: you know, But she is looking for a husband. She's 152 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:38,080 Speaker 1: looking for someone who's going to now step into the 153 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 1: lives of her children, and she has she again, she 154 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:44,720 Speaker 1: owes it to herself to show up the best and 155 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:47,080 Speaker 1: clear state of being and clear state of mind so 156 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 1: that she can then leave this experience with what she 157 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 1: pours in and not saying that she you know, she 158 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 1: doesn't give that. But I think it can sometimes be clouded. 159 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 1: It can sometimes be a little bit blurred when you're 160 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 1: leaving something that's so chaotic and then you're going into 161 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 1: this as we know, bachelor and just the dates we 162 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:06,960 Speaker 1: go on, the experience itself is almost like a little 163 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 1: bit of a fairy tale. It kind of clouds that 164 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:11,440 Speaker 1: judgment a little bit. And I can speak from my 165 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:14,959 Speaker 1: own personal experience someone who did, you know, do basically 166 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 1: a year of therapy before I even went on to 167 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 1: the Bachelor and then Bachelorette. It's like I was so 168 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 1: like locked in on myself fixing the things that I 169 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:27,200 Speaker 1: needed to work on, and I'm still fixing them. 170 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 2: So that's not the argument here. 171 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:31,560 Speaker 1: It's just I'm doing what I can to prep myself, 172 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 1: and I think, you know, that is something that I 173 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 1: feel very strongly about in regards to supporting Taylor and 174 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:41,200 Speaker 1: all of this, Like I am supportive and I want 175 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 1: happiness for her, but I do wish that there was 176 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 1: a little bit of an opportunity for her to kind 177 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:48,560 Speaker 1: of just get her footing before all of this a 178 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:52,200 Speaker 1: little bit more and just be at the top of 179 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 1: her name. 180 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:54,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, but I don't disagree with you. 181 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:58,559 Speaker 4: I think I think, given what we've seen, you know, 182 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 4: definitely a tall order. I don't to scree with you 183 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 4: at all. Yeah, I do think there was, you know, 184 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:07,559 Speaker 4: so much going on and a tangled web that maybe 185 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:11,359 Speaker 4: the time You're right, maybe the time wasn't spent untangling 186 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:15,320 Speaker 4: her own web to then be her best version of 187 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 4: herself to yeah, to enter into this incredible opportunity. I 188 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:20,680 Speaker 4: don't agree with you at all. 189 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 1: And another thing, like kind of going off that Kathy 190 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:25,560 Speaker 1: a little bit, is that we do kind of see 191 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 1: a little bit of, I guess, a double standard in 192 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 1: how we label things. I'm like, I am so in 193 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:34,680 Speaker 1: tune with just like pop culture and just who's on 194 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:36,720 Speaker 1: our screen and who's not on our screen, who's behind 195 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 1: our screens. 196 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 3: All of that. 197 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 1: And I feel like when we have someone that's, you know, 198 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:44,679 Speaker 1: like Taylor who has this built in platform for people 199 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 1: are invested in, you know, how her life turns out, 200 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 1: whether that's you know, great or whether that's not so great. 201 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:53,079 Speaker 2: A lot of the dialogue around just. 202 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 1: How we describe Taylor is someone who's like, you know, 203 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 1: she stands out for herself, or she's like, you know, 204 00:10:58,480 --> 00:10:59,679 Speaker 1: she's this boss bitch. 205 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:01,199 Speaker 2: Which sure, I. 206 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:03,840 Speaker 1: Think anyone who has the right to be very outspoken 207 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:07,199 Speaker 1: and can tell anyone, you know, where their place is 208 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:09,680 Speaker 1: in regards to her life, whether that's a boundary or not, 209 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 1: I agree with that, but I think it's not an 210 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:18,320 Speaker 1: across the board, an even standard that everyone holds all 211 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:19,000 Speaker 1: people when. 212 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:20,200 Speaker 2: They come across our screens. 213 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:21,720 Speaker 1: So I think there is a little bit of a 214 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:25,200 Speaker 1: double standard there. If that was someone granted like me, 215 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:29,080 Speaker 1: like on my season, I had to carry myself like 216 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:31,440 Speaker 1: almost too perfect to the point where like that wasn't 217 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 1: even my like real personality, Like it's I'm so afraid 218 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 1: of making a mistake or I'm so afraid. 219 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 2: Of like, oh, I'm going to get labeled as. 220 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 1: This aggressive woman versus like, oh, she's having a boss 221 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:46,960 Speaker 1: bitch moment. Like there's a big distinguishment there that I 222 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 1: don't think people are really acknowledging and really sitting with 223 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 1: and understanding that that's fine if we want to like 224 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:56,240 Speaker 1: label that as like a boss bitch moment, but that 225 00:11:56,280 --> 00:11:58,679 Speaker 1: should be the case for everybody, anyone who's standing out 226 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 1: from themselves, anyone who's saying, you know what, I don't 227 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 1: like how you just talked to me, you're going home, 228 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:05,080 Speaker 1: you're getting the limb, or you want to have a 229 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:07,320 Speaker 1: one on one back and forth with me, let's have it. 230 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:08,600 Speaker 2: But it's like that. 231 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:11,599 Speaker 1: Doesn't paint someone else who doesn't look like Taylor or 232 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 1: doesn't fit in that box of Taylor as someone who 233 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:17,439 Speaker 1: is aggressive. And I think that's something that we really 234 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:20,080 Speaker 1: need to be mindful of, really needed to be mindful. 235 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 4: You said just a few seconds ago that she had 236 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 4: had the right with this platform. 237 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:28,839 Speaker 5: I would I would. 238 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:32,480 Speaker 4: Change that and say, which I think addresses where you're going. 239 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:39,920 Speaker 4: It's it's privilege, and with privilege comes responsibility. And so 240 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:47,720 Speaker 4: I think that just because you have you, she anyone 241 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 4: really who has that that chance to be what some 242 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:55,160 Speaker 4: would consider a boss bitch and what some would consider 243 00:12:56,160 --> 00:13:00,320 Speaker 4: outspoken and crazy, you know whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it 244 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 4: also comes in my mind with a responsibility. You've got 245 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 4: to be held a little bit higher. And you're right 246 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 4: if you don't look the same, there's other judgment factors 247 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 4: that play there that aren't fair, which makes the cocktail 248 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:16,960 Speaker 4: mix even stronger and your point even more poignant. 249 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:20,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I agree, And that's I like how you 250 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:24,680 Speaker 1: word that. With privilege does come a huge responsibility, And 251 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 1: I think it all ties back to just, you know, 252 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 1: whether or not someone like Taylor or just people who 253 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:33,439 Speaker 1: you know, whatever that looks like, has that awareness. You know, 254 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:35,839 Speaker 1: I think it starts with honestly self awareness and how 255 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:38,679 Speaker 1: you carry yourself, how you conduct yourself, whatever it may 256 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:39,080 Speaker 1: look like. 257 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 2: At the end of the day. It's like being aware 258 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 2: of where. 259 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:46,680 Speaker 1: You fall in this world of what we call life. Yeah, 260 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:49,600 Speaker 1: some people just are set up a little bit better 261 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:51,439 Speaker 1: and some not so much. But at the end of 262 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 1: the day, that's not my argument. Like, at the end 263 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:56,200 Speaker 1: of the day, we all make it out for ourselves. 264 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:59,680 Speaker 1: But I just want our audience and our viewers to 265 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:03,720 Speaker 1: like really be mindful when we're how we're describing people 266 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:06,040 Speaker 1: or just how we're talking about people and making sure 267 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:08,280 Speaker 1: that you know, if we're going to hold someone to 268 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 1: this level of accountability, we hold everyone to the same level. 269 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 2: And that's just my thing. Life isn't fair. But at 270 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:16,200 Speaker 2: the end of the day, I think this is where 271 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:18,840 Speaker 2: we as a society has kind of failed a little 272 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 2: bit of not really staying true to that. 273 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 4: And and this is another opportunity, I think you're right, 274 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:29,520 Speaker 4: one opportunity not just to see the chaos and the 275 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 4: mess and her ability to find love, but to say, 276 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 4: here we are going to stand up. And this has 277 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 4: yet a chance for us to show accountability that it 278 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 4: should be held across the board. 279 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 1: So yeah for sharing that charity one. You know, accountability 280 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 1: is a big word. I want to make sure that 281 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 1: everyone is seeing and understanding what that looks like in 282 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 1: this situation and staying. 283 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 2: True to that. That's yeah. 284 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 1: Point, Yeah, it's it's nothing to gloss over. Truly, this 285 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 1: is really serious things and serious you know, allegations, all 286 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 1: all of that, but rooting for their well being at 287 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 1: the end of the day. I think, you know something 288 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 1: that I'm very mindful of is, you know we talked 289 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:24,720 Speaker 1: about this, Kathy, is just like how complex the situation is, 290 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 1: and I just want to be really sensitive, especially like 291 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 1: I said, considering my personal background of holding space for 292 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 1: people who have been in these situations and people who 293 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:43,280 Speaker 1: find themselves in whatever these relationship dynamics might look like. 294 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 1: You know, I like myself coming across that video a 295 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 1: week ago was extremely difficult, and I think the most part, 296 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 1: the most important thing of it all is the child 297 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 1: being present. And you know, I think you, Kathy, could 298 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 1: probably speak to a little bit of you know, what 299 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 1: that dynamic is like if you're okay with that. 300 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 4: I mean, obviously, when I was a child many many 301 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 4: years ago that we didn't have the social media and 302 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 4: the and the and the recording capabilities. So but I 303 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:24,440 Speaker 4: I personally was my family talk was a very toxic. 304 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 4: I grew up in a very toxic family. And I 305 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 4: know Taylor talks about the toxic cycles that she has 306 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 4: gone through. It is very difficult for me to watch 307 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 4: that because as a child I was I was caught 308 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 4: up in one of those cycles, and so it is 309 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 4: very triggering. I think that Taylor this this, this video 310 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 4: was made in twenty twenty three. This this while we 311 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 4: only saw it last week, it was recorded three years ago, 312 00:16:56,840 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 4: and Taylor has spoken about it, she's not backed away 313 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 4: from it. Doesn't make it any easier to watch it, 314 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 4: and especially when there's children involved, it's just a really 315 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:09,160 Speaker 4: hard thing to witness. 316 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 3: Mm hmmm. Yeah. 317 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:14,640 Speaker 4: I also think we need to remember that this is 318 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 4: not entertainment. 319 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:18,280 Speaker 2: It's not let's talk about it. 320 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:18,840 Speaker 3: Oh my god. 321 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:24,640 Speaker 4: These are real people's lives. This is not you know, uh, 322 00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:29,240 Speaker 4: somebody saying something silly and and have and created some 323 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 4: great chaos that at some point, at some level is 324 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:38,640 Speaker 4: always entertaining. Yeah, these are real people's lives, and that 325 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:40,480 Speaker 4: to me makes a big difference as well. 326 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:41,080 Speaker 3: I agree. 327 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:43,920 Speaker 1: I agree there's no there should not be I won't 328 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 1: again won't tell people how to feel, but there should 329 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:50,680 Speaker 1: not be any satisfaction behind watching any of this unfold. Uh, 330 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 1: if you care about people, if you care about human life, 331 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 1: you would care about both parties. Yeah, getting getting help, 332 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:03,399 Speaker 1: getting support, getting the necessary resources to really fix this 333 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:04,960 Speaker 1: situation and turn it around. 334 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 4: So it is my hope, and I know it's yours 335 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:11,960 Speaker 4: charity everyone involved. I hope they get the help they 336 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 4: need to resolve this situation in a way that is 337 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:22,520 Speaker 4: of benefit to them and the children, because you know, 338 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 4: I said, as a mom, they deserve that. So I 339 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:34,920 Speaker 4: heard we have some very incredible guests today on this podcast. 340 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 4: Is that true? 341 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:37,240 Speaker 2: I think. 342 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:41,119 Speaker 1: So we're going to have the opportunity to kind of 343 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 1: kick off a fun little series where we're gonna introduce 344 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:49,359 Speaker 1: some of the men from Taylor's cast, which I'm very 345 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:54,679 Speaker 1: excited about because I do again, I empathize very deeply 346 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:56,159 Speaker 1: with the position that. 347 00:18:56,040 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 2: They are in. I personally don't really know how I 348 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:02,480 Speaker 2: would handle that. I feel like there's a world. 349 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 1: Where, you know, they're probably very disappointed, they're probably very sad, 350 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 1: they're probably you know, there's so many emotions that is 351 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:14,639 Speaker 1: surrounding obviously the weight of all of this, and I 352 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:16,800 Speaker 1: think the least that we can do is, you know, 353 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 1: just get to chat with them a little bit. So 354 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:22,359 Speaker 1: I think it's time that we meet at least a 355 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 1: few of them. 356 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:29,359 Speaker 4: I am so excited to uh to sit here with 357 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:30,879 Speaker 4: you today and at least get to chat with a 358 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:32,840 Speaker 4: few of them. So take it away, Charity, I want to. 359 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:36,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, ready, okay, Well, without further ado, we're gonna get 360 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 1: really into this, and we're gonna get into it quickly. 361 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:43,280 Speaker 1: We're gonna have our very first guy from Vacaville, California. 362 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:45,760 Speaker 2: We have Christopher. Welcome to Bachelor Happy Hour. 363 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:49,679 Speaker 5: Hi, ladies, I'm glad to be here. Hold on, hold on. 364 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:52,720 Speaker 6: I want to clarify first we started this off. I 365 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 6: am not from Vacaville. I just live here. I was 366 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:58,880 Speaker 6: in the military and then I just stayed here. I'm 367 00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:02,399 Speaker 6: originally from I grew up between Arkansas and Dallas like 368 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:02,800 Speaker 6: my parents. 369 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 4: I was gonna say, you don't sound like you're from Upstick. 370 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:07,200 Speaker 3: You got a little twang in there. 371 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:07,959 Speaker 5: I'm not. 372 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 6: I've just been living here because I was in the 373 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:12,399 Speaker 6: military and I just stayed here once I got out. 374 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:14,159 Speaker 4: What branch were you in? 375 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 5: I was in the Air Force for eleven years. 376 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 3: Oh wow, thank you for thank you for your service. 377 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:21,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, I appreciate you ladies. 378 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:25,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, Well I'm I'm curious because I'm I always 379 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:30,480 Speaker 1: love meeting new people in the franchise. So before, actually, 380 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:33,159 Speaker 1: before we get into that, how are you feeling with everything? 381 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 2: I know, it's been a lot. 382 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 5: Honestly, it's just been like a whirlwind. 383 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:40,240 Speaker 6: I don't I don't think I've been able to articulate 384 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:42,480 Speaker 6: the way that I feel, you know, you know. 385 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:44,359 Speaker 5: I'll go to bed and I'll wake up in something else. 386 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:47,360 Speaker 6: So it's like I haven't had the time to get 387 00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:49,359 Speaker 6: my feet underneath me yet with all this, I'm just 388 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:50,480 Speaker 6: trying to take it. 389 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:51,160 Speaker 5: Day by day. 390 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:54,119 Speaker 6: We're finding out things, as you're probably finding out things. 391 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 6: You know, you can't get on social media without seeing 392 00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:58,240 Speaker 6: something pertaining to our season. 393 00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:00,320 Speaker 5: So I don't know, I can't fully to that. 394 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:03,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I think that's fair and totally valid. 395 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:06,440 Speaker 1: What are you doing to, I guess to keep yourself 396 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:07,679 Speaker 1: grounded in all of this. 397 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 5: I'm doing what I've always done, you know, I go 398 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 5: to the gym. I help people with their fitness. 399 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:15,439 Speaker 6: You know, I'm dealing with you know, I'm dealing with 400 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 6: my friends, I have my daughter. I'm just I'm just 401 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 6: doing my regular day to day as if none of 402 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:22,120 Speaker 6: this is happening. But you know again, I'll get those 403 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:24,040 Speaker 6: reminders I get on social media and I just I'll 404 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:24,639 Speaker 6: see something. 405 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I like your attitude. Take you to day 406 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:30,160 Speaker 4: by day. That's all you can do, Christopher. 407 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:33,199 Speaker 5: And I like to think I'm a very positive person. 408 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:36,159 Speaker 6: You know, that's been who I've been, and I like 409 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:38,439 Speaker 6: to think that's what got to be recognized, even be 410 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 6: a part of you know, Bachelor Nation. My positivity and 411 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:43,600 Speaker 6: my outlook on just everything. You know, you'll never see 412 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 6: me down for too long. 413 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:46,680 Speaker 5: I like that. 414 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 4: I want to know how you your journey of the Bachelor. 415 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 5: How did you get to the show? I honestly, I 416 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:55,879 Speaker 5: was just found. 417 00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 6: Like it was like a like somebody put my name 418 00:21:57,800 --> 00:22:01,240 Speaker 6: in it and somebody just pulled it out. About a 419 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 6: year ago, I was on Instagram one day and then 420 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 6: I looked at my notifications. I had like twenty lights 421 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 6: from this one person. It was a guy, and I 422 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:10,960 Speaker 6: was I'm not gonna lie. I was super skeptical. I 423 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:15,439 Speaker 6: was like, Okay, what is he on? Then I went 424 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:17,639 Speaker 6: to I checked my dms later on that night and 425 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:18,760 Speaker 6: he had sent me a DM. 426 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 5: He told me he was a casting producer. 427 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 6: So I went and looked at his Instagram and in 428 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:25,600 Speaker 6: his bio had showed that he was a casting producer. 429 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:28,720 Speaker 5: And then so I decided to respond to him. 430 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 6: But I was super skeptical, and then once he responded, 431 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:35,200 Speaker 6: he was super professional, and then he just handed me off. 432 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:37,520 Speaker 6: We got on the call, and then he handed me 433 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:39,600 Speaker 6: off to another producer and then it checked out to 434 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:42,879 Speaker 6: be real. And then the next thing I know, you know, 435 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 6: I'm doing background checks and I'm just going through the process. 436 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:48,479 Speaker 5: So I honestly, I don't know how you found me. 437 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 4: Were you a fan? 438 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:52,119 Speaker 5: I've never if you. 439 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 6: Knew my story. I am not from this world. I 440 00:22:56,119 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 6: am like my world is Night and Day of Bachelor Nation. Yeah, nothing, nothing. 441 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:03,119 Speaker 6: I didn't know anything about it. But then I just 442 00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:05,240 Speaker 6: started doing Google searches. And then I have friends that 443 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 6: watched the show. One of my good friends I went 444 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:09,320 Speaker 6: to high school was she told me about the show. 445 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:11,760 Speaker 6: So I was like, Okay, I'll give it a try. 446 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:14,439 Speaker 6: After I talked to my daughter about it, and then 447 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 6: I was like, I'll do it. 448 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 2: Oh did you get like have to get her blessing 449 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:19,200 Speaker 2: for a hand. 450 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:24,600 Speaker 6: In many ways, yes, Yeah, Sophie is my biggest fan. 451 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:26,240 Speaker 5: That's my daughter. She's my biggest fan. 452 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 6: And when I told her what the show was about, 453 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 6: you know, she was like, okay, dad, dude, because she's 454 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:32,919 Speaker 6: been nudging me, like when are you going to have 455 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 6: more kids? 456 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:34,600 Speaker 5: Or when are you going to get married? 457 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 4: So way, wait, hold on, Christopher, Christopher, I can I 458 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:41,680 Speaker 4: can help you with half that detail. How do you 459 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:43,800 Speaker 4: feel about the older women period? 460 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:45,959 Speaker 5: I think you're a beautiful older woman. I think you're 461 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:47,600 Speaker 5: Oh you. 462 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:49,680 Speaker 4: Didn't even put the hat in there. It could have 463 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:50,400 Speaker 4: just said. 464 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:52,920 Speaker 5: You're a beautiful woman. I mean, that's how you set 465 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:53,239 Speaker 5: it up. 466 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:56,439 Speaker 4: So I was like, okay, So how is Sophie. 467 00:23:57,240 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 5: Sophie is thirteen, she'll be fourteen September twenty four. 468 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 1: Oh wow, she's got a teenager. 469 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:07,160 Speaker 5: Yeah, we have the teenage blues because she. 470 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:11,359 Speaker 2: Yet I know. 471 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:15,240 Speaker 5: Yeah. 472 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 6: But she's a very very smart girl. She's very very intelligent. 473 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:23,639 Speaker 6: We're very close. We talk, we play this. This this 474 00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:25,840 Speaker 6: game is similar to the relationship I had with my mother. 475 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:27,879 Speaker 6: My mom and I were very we were friends, but 476 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:30,520 Speaker 6: she would hit that switch and you would know she's 477 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 6: not being your friend right now. So our relationship is 478 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:39,000 Speaker 6: a reflection of that so she's very intelligent. She's in sports, 479 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:41,960 Speaker 6: she's playing all these different sports right now. She's outgoing, 480 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:46,560 Speaker 6: she's courageous. I'm so I'm super proud of my daughter. 481 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:46,840 Speaker 5: You know. 482 00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:48,240 Speaker 3: Oh that's sweet. 483 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:48,679 Speaker 5: Love that. 484 00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:52,119 Speaker 1: So she was ready for you said, nudging you to 485 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:55,639 Speaker 1: like do this or like, I guess figuring out what's 486 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:56,480 Speaker 1: next for dad? 487 00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:59,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, how was your I guess before you came on 488 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:00,159 Speaker 2: the back there? 489 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:02,439 Speaker 1: If you don't mind me asking, like, what was like 490 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 1: the dating scene like for you? 491 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:08,320 Speaker 2: I'm sure it's like the same answer from everyone. 492 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:14,080 Speaker 5: I think we're just in a weird time in history. 493 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:18,919 Speaker 6: Yeah, dating is has become so complicated, you know, and 494 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 6: I think social media does a has a big role to. 495 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:21,880 Speaker 5: Play in that. 496 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:26,119 Speaker 6: You know, people are comparing their regular lives to celebrity lives, 497 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:28,400 Speaker 6: and their financial situations. 498 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:30,800 Speaker 5: To the financial situations of people that are rich. 499 00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:33,399 Speaker 6: And I'm just like, these are these aren't realistic, Like 500 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:34,720 Speaker 6: what you're expecting is not real. 501 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:37,480 Speaker 5: So it's very hard for me to date because the 502 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:37,840 Speaker 5: way that. 503 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:41,320 Speaker 6: I am, I'm very accountable with myself and I hold 504 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 6: anybody that's in my life accountable, and that can push 505 00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:45,120 Speaker 6: a lot of people away. 506 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:46,840 Speaker 5: And I'm okay with that, you know. 507 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 6: So dating has been very difficult because it's hard for 508 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:53,280 Speaker 6: me to connect with people. When I date someone, I'm 509 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:55,480 Speaker 6: trying to establish a connection. I can't be into me 510 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:58,720 Speaker 6: with anyone I don't feel a connection to and you're 511 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:01,240 Speaker 6: not going to speed my connection up just because you 512 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:03,240 Speaker 6: want to obtain something from you obtain something. So I'm 513 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:06,600 Speaker 6: just like, dating is very difficult, very difficult for me 514 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:08,439 Speaker 6: just because of how I am. 515 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:10,800 Speaker 2: It's like a realist. 516 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:12,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm very. 517 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:14,960 Speaker 6: Much a realist, and sometimes to a fault. I think 518 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:18,320 Speaker 6: when you're too logical, sometimes logic doesn't have a place 519 00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:21,439 Speaker 6: when you're in love, like you know. So that's been 520 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 6: a that's been something about something about me that I 521 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:24,439 Speaker 6: think I need to work on. 522 00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:27,560 Speaker 4: But I wonder what you do for a living, Christopher, 523 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:28,800 Speaker 4: what do you do? 524 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 5: Okay? So I was in the military for eleven years. 525 00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:36,800 Speaker 6: Like I said, I started this business where I do 526 00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:39,639 Speaker 6: these outdoor boot camps like and they're serious. 527 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:40,560 Speaker 5: They're serious. 528 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:43,840 Speaker 6: So I started doing them in twenty seventeen, I believe, 529 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:47,040 Speaker 6: and they just slowly continued to grow over the years. 530 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:50,720 Speaker 6: And then I launched a website where it's a it's 531 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 6: a merchandise thing too, So we started doing you know 532 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:57,000 Speaker 6: products what I would sell, you know, surrounding it. 533 00:26:57,359 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 5: And it's been it's been very successful for me. 534 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:03,840 Speaker 6: The town I live in, Vacaville, they've embraced me kind 535 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:06,480 Speaker 6: of as their own and you know, people around town 536 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:09,399 Speaker 6: they recognize me because of these fit comps. So, and 537 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:11,800 Speaker 6: then I helped train people in the gym. So this 538 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:14,040 Speaker 6: has been my life since I separated from the military. 539 00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:16,520 Speaker 4: I'm Cherry, you're hearing it. It's a love affair of 540 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:19,080 Speaker 4: starting here. I'm in the gym all the time lifting weights. 541 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:21,399 Speaker 4: Christopher were a match mad and have that. 542 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:26,080 Speaker 5: Listen, we can work some things out. I'm serious work 543 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:26,640 Speaker 5: something else. 544 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:29,440 Speaker 4: I really. 545 00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:32,000 Speaker 2: Kathy is a really good player. 546 00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:32,600 Speaker 3: I'll give it. 547 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:35,960 Speaker 2: I'll give you that, Kathy. 548 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 4: Okay, enough about I want to know what were you 549 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:42,040 Speaker 4: planning to do for the premiere. 550 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:44,840 Speaker 5: Heartbreak. 551 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:49,880 Speaker 6: So the group that I mentioned the workouts that we do, 552 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:52,919 Speaker 6: they all put together a watch party of one of 553 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:53,760 Speaker 6: the members' houses. 554 00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:55,760 Speaker 5: She made a flyer for everyone. 555 00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:59,200 Speaker 6: We have a group message on Instagram that we would 556 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:01,720 Speaker 6: already interact. Then for the classes, you know, we give 557 00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:03,359 Speaker 6: them details about where we were going to be, what 558 00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:06,840 Speaker 6: we're doing. So everybody was all excited. We were all 559 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 6: going to meet and it was going to be twenty 560 00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:09,560 Speaker 6: plus keeping. 561 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 4: Hey, Chris first stopped saying in the past tense. The 562 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:14,800 Speaker 4: show is only on a pause. It's not canceled. You 563 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 4: may have your premiere yet. 564 00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:18,760 Speaker 5: I knew I liked you when you first started talking. 565 00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:22,560 Speaker 5: I appreciate it. But yes, let's get this into existence. 566 00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:25,480 Speaker 6: We need this see season, This season needs to be 567 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:27,480 Speaker 6: shared with the world because I think it's abound. 568 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:32,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, how is your relationship with I guess the guys 569 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:36,960 Speaker 1: and how was that dynamic? Without giving too much away, 570 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 1: you can tease us a lot, right, let's see how I. 571 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:40,840 Speaker 5: See how I want to navigate this. 572 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:44,960 Speaker 6: Okay, Earlier I mentioned how everyone around me you're going 573 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:46,640 Speaker 6: to be held accountable if you're going to be around me. 574 00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:49,160 Speaker 5: So again, that. 575 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:53,000 Speaker 6: Is it started off by me just being myself and 576 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:54,000 Speaker 6: holding people accountable. 577 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:55,480 Speaker 5: And naturally you want to butt heads. 578 00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:59,240 Speaker 6: But everyone that I butt had a situation where where 579 00:28:59,240 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 6: we would butt here. 580 00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:01,800 Speaker 5: I like to think that we were able to sit 581 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:03,240 Speaker 5: down like men and talk about it. 582 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:04,360 Speaker 2: Mm hmmm. 583 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:06,560 Speaker 6: So you know there were some guys in the house 584 00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:09,000 Speaker 6: where we were but his and it actually made our 585 00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:10,480 Speaker 6: relationship better in the long run. 586 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:21,520 Speaker 1: Oh wow, I'm always curious to see. Like so for 587 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:24,720 Speaker 1: when I was on The Bachelor as a contestant, like 588 00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:27,440 Speaker 1: me and the girls were still like very close to 589 00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:27,880 Speaker 1: this day. 590 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:30,640 Speaker 6: Like it's just I'm still close to some of them 591 00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:31,240 Speaker 6: gods today. 592 00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:32,160 Speaker 4: Yeah. 593 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:33,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think the same to you. 594 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:36,720 Speaker 1: For my fiance, it's like he's very close with you know, 595 00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:39,520 Speaker 1: the guys from his cast. So it's just it's one 596 00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:40,400 Speaker 1: of the important questions. 597 00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:42,600 Speaker 2: I feel like if you know, however. 598 00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:47,560 Speaker 4: Exactly like part of the big family. 599 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:50,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, friendship is really important. 600 00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:54,440 Speaker 6: I remember going into the situation, just based on my past, 601 00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:57,400 Speaker 6: I've had a lot of issues with guys that call 602 00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:00,880 Speaker 6: themselves my friends, just because the way I carried myself. 603 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:03,960 Speaker 6: I'm not in competition with anyone hello, and they don't 604 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:06,400 Speaker 6: have They would have secret competitions with me that I 605 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:08,680 Speaker 6: didn't even know about. You know, they will make an 606 00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:10,960 Speaker 6: issue up or say I did this, But in reality, 607 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:13,440 Speaker 6: this is like your insecurity that you're projecting on me. 608 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:15,560 Speaker 6: So when I got to the house, that's what I 609 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:19,960 Speaker 6: was expecting everyone to be like. But fortunately for me 610 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:22,920 Speaker 6: that that wasn't the case as much as I expected 611 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:23,280 Speaker 6: it to be. 612 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 5: I mess with the genuine guys in the. 613 00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:28,440 Speaker 4: House, and you seem I mean, based on I I 614 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:31,200 Speaker 4: can't take my eyes off your arm muscles. But other 615 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:34,239 Speaker 4: than that, you strike me as a guy who is 616 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:35,840 Speaker 4: really secure in who you are. 617 00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:40,239 Speaker 6: Absolutely, I know that I'm not perfect, but you know, 618 00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:43,160 Speaker 6: I appreciate what God gave me. I appreciate what God 619 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:44,560 Speaker 6: gave me, and I was just trying to make the 620 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:45,880 Speaker 6: best of everything I've ever had. 621 00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:49,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, good for you. I love the positivity. 622 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:50,360 Speaker 5: I appreciate it. 623 00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:53,600 Speaker 1: Was there was there any, like, I guess, fears for 624 00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:56,240 Speaker 1: you for I mean, I'm sure it's very natural coming 625 00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:59,240 Speaker 1: into obviously an experience like this, and it's there's so 626 00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:03,080 Speaker 1: many unknown if you had any fears that you feel 627 00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:06,240 Speaker 1: comfortable sharing, Like, was there any about how this. 628 00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:07,480 Speaker 2: Process was gonna unfold? 629 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:10,400 Speaker 1: Like what was something that you were nervous about, like 630 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:12,600 Speaker 1: I guess talking about for yourself. 631 00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:16,920 Speaker 6: I was there, To be honest, you know, I wouldn't 632 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:19,200 Speaker 6: have done this situation if I had. 633 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:21,240 Speaker 5: Certain things that like skeletons in my closet. 634 00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:23,680 Speaker 6: You know, there's certain things that it's like you can't 635 00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:26,400 Speaker 6: come back from that. I don't have those things. So 636 00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:28,320 Speaker 6: I went into this. I was trying to be as 637 00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:31,000 Speaker 6: fearless as possible. When you're venturing out into the unknown, 638 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:33,720 Speaker 6: it's just it's kind of hard, you know. So I 639 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:37,720 Speaker 6: just I leaned into who I was. Certain things that 640 00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:42,200 Speaker 6: I was fearful of was just being alienated maybe, you know, 641 00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:44,200 Speaker 6: like I said, I get to the house and I'm like, 642 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:46,640 Speaker 6: maybe I'm gonna have issues with everyone. No one's gonna 643 00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:48,280 Speaker 6: like me. So that was a part of me that 644 00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:50,160 Speaker 6: felt that that could be the thing. It's like being 645 00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:53,080 Speaker 6: alienated and being in this different environment that you do 646 00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:55,600 Speaker 6: not know and you're not comfortable in. So I was 647 00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:57,320 Speaker 6: just curious how I was going to navigate that. 648 00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:00,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, again, I was in the military for years. 649 00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:04,760 Speaker 6: I've been on military deployments in war zones, literally war zones, 650 00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:07,720 Speaker 6: So I think having that kind of gave me a 651 00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:09,640 Speaker 6: level of confidence that I needed to just kind of 652 00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:12,840 Speaker 6: keep moving my feet. But yeah, that was something that 653 00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:15,440 Speaker 6: I was I was curious about. And and then just 654 00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:18,360 Speaker 6: the thought of being away from my daughter in that context, 655 00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:20,200 Speaker 6: you know, not being able to call her winning or 656 00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:22,400 Speaker 6: whenever I wanted to, or just you know, just so 657 00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:25,800 Speaker 6: many unknowns is the thing that I thought I was 658 00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:26,560 Speaker 6: scared about. 659 00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:30,280 Speaker 4: So Christopher that that brings up another question for me. 660 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:33,760 Speaker 4: There have been a few leads and people who come 661 00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:38,040 Speaker 4: on the show with children. How did you feel about 662 00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:41,800 Speaker 4: being a single dad knowing that the bats were at 663 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:43,640 Speaker 4: that Taylor had children. 664 00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:49,120 Speaker 6: I've dated women with children before. I've seen it can work, 665 00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:53,080 Speaker 6: so that was something that I was I'm open minded. 666 00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:56,200 Speaker 6: I'm very open minded. I understand that, you know, where 667 00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:59,520 Speaker 6: we have these circumstances, we put ourselves in these positions. 668 00:32:59,160 --> 00:32:59,720 Speaker 5: In many ways. 669 00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:02,960 Speaker 6: I will admit was that, but you know, I've seen 670 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:05,000 Speaker 6: it work. I've dated a woman with kids and her 671 00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:07,280 Speaker 6: kids loved me. I loved her kids, her kids loved 672 00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:10,440 Speaker 6: my kids, and she loved like we've I've made it before. 673 00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:13,760 Speaker 6: So I went into this, you know, being open minded. 674 00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:17,840 Speaker 6: There's a misconception that I've been seeing online. A lot 675 00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:20,960 Speaker 6: of people are under this impression that we knew about Taylor, 676 00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:22,520 Speaker 6: Like long before. 677 00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:25,640 Speaker 5: We got there, I didn't know that Taylor was going 678 00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:26,640 Speaker 5: to be the best red Tool. 679 00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:29,560 Speaker 6: I had already agreed to do it, so I was 680 00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:33,040 Speaker 6: gonna ask that I found out later. And then once 681 00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:35,720 Speaker 6: I found out later, when I saw Taylor, Frankie Paul. 682 00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:39,240 Speaker 5: I'm like, who the hell is this. I don't come 683 00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:40,120 Speaker 5: from this world. 684 00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:43,560 Speaker 6: So I have started doing Google searches and then like 685 00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:45,880 Speaker 6: my friends found out, they were like, oh, I know her, 686 00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:47,960 Speaker 6: I watched her other show, and then they started telling 687 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:52,080 Speaker 6: me things. So I was like, oh boy, like what 688 00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:52,800 Speaker 6: what am I going. 689 00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:53,239 Speaker 5: To do with this? 690 00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:56,240 Speaker 6: But you know, there's been there's been rumors about me 691 00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:57,960 Speaker 6: in my life, so I thought it would be unfair 692 00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:00,240 Speaker 6: to judge her based on, you know, what I got 693 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:05,440 Speaker 6: from a second or third hand source. So there's been 694 00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:07,280 Speaker 6: a lot of people that's been reaching out trying to 695 00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:10,759 Speaker 6: get the cast to like, say, speak on our experiences 696 00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:12,400 Speaker 6: with what's going on with in the house or with 697 00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:13,960 Speaker 6: Taylor and her business. 698 00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:16,959 Speaker 5: Uh, the type of person I am, I wasn't there, 699 00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:21,240 Speaker 5: you know, I don't know. I mean, it's very unfortunate. 700 00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:22,880 Speaker 6: To see it play out on social media, especially when 701 00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:25,920 Speaker 6: children are involved, Like those kids are gonna have to. 702 00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:28,480 Speaker 5: Grow up and see these videos. Now, yeah, you know, 703 00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:30,360 Speaker 5: this is this is someone's real life. 704 00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:32,720 Speaker 6: This is someone's real life, and then you have people 705 00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:34,960 Speaker 6: on social media with their opinion. I'm like, you guys 706 00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:36,960 Speaker 6: don't know what's going on, and we've only seen one 707 00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:39,440 Speaker 6: side of the story play out, you know, in the media. 708 00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:42,560 Speaker 6: So I think it's unfair for people to jump to 709 00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:46,240 Speaker 6: an assumption or a conclusion without having all the facts. 710 00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:50,719 Speaker 6: And that's something that I've stayed away from. But yes, 711 00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:54,480 Speaker 6: it's very unfortunate. But you know, let people, you know, 712 00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:58,560 Speaker 6: live their lives without you know, being so judgmental or 713 00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:01,359 Speaker 6: you know, opinionated. I just whish more people would give 714 00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:04,520 Speaker 6: more grace to people versus just jumping to attack them. 715 00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:07,000 Speaker 2: We love that word. No, I appreciate that. 716 00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:07,359 Speaker 3: I think. 717 00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:10,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, me and Kathy really did dive into that a 718 00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:16,560 Speaker 1: lot before we had you on and. 719 00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:17,520 Speaker 4: And you and you just eloquently summarized a lot of 720 00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:18,000 Speaker 4: what we say. 721 00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:19,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you. 722 00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:21,520 Speaker 2: All right on a light your node. 723 00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:23,239 Speaker 1: Before we let you go, We're going to play a 724 00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:26,239 Speaker 1: quick game of hot seat, so basically just rapid fire 725 00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:28,400 Speaker 1: prompts to help us get to know you and your 726 00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:31,239 Speaker 1: personality a little bit better. So let's get right into it. 727 00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:34,080 Speaker 1: So first one's very easy. Okay, cowboy hat or a 728 00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:34,919 Speaker 1: baseball cap? 729 00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:39,840 Speaker 5: Does the occasion? Do we have an occasion? 730 00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:43,520 Speaker 2: I guess whichever one you naturally gravitate towards more. 731 00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:47,480 Speaker 6: I wear more baseball caps, but I think cowboy hats 732 00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:47,959 Speaker 6: look better. 733 00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:51,800 Speaker 3: Okay, and you can wear them with so many. 734 00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:53,279 Speaker 4: Dis I got mine sitting right over there because I 735 00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:55,160 Speaker 4: could reach it. 736 00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:57,080 Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, I think cowboy head. 737 00:35:57,120 --> 00:36:02,320 Speaker 4: I'll go Cowboy had Okay, you mentioned I love to travel, 738 00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:04,960 Speaker 4: just say, you know, forgetting to know each other. 739 00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:05,120 Speaker 6: Hair. 740 00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:10,000 Speaker 4: You mentioned this in every country on your list is 741 00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:12,759 Speaker 4: on it is on your bucket list? Which countries are 742 00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:14,600 Speaker 4: at the top of your list? And how many of 743 00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:15,600 Speaker 4: you already pessited. 744 00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:22,480 Speaker 5: I've been to twenty seven countries. Wow, the top of 745 00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:25,360 Speaker 5: my list. I'm I'm super biased. 746 00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:28,600 Speaker 6: Amsterdam has a very special place in my heart for 747 00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:31,279 Speaker 6: so many different reasons. I think if you go late 748 00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:34,000 Speaker 6: summer till maybe like October, that is the perfect time 749 00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:35,800 Speaker 6: to be in Amsterdam. 750 00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:41,920 Speaker 5: So Amsterdam is number one. Wow. Stockholm, Sweden was special, 751 00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:43,239 Speaker 5: very special to me. 752 00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:47,200 Speaker 6: And then the third, I want to go somewhere I've 753 00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:48,640 Speaker 6: never been, maybe like. 754 00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:54,800 Speaker 5: Kyrgyzstan. I've seen the horses there and just like, where's 755 00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:56,040 Speaker 5: that open plane? 756 00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:59,800 Speaker 6: And I think I cried I saw it in person, 757 00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:02,520 Speaker 6: So I would listen those three places. 758 00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:06,719 Speaker 2: Wow, Okay, very not basic, so good job. 759 00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:12,279 Speaker 1: I appreciate it, okay, and our last one tell us 760 00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:16,160 Speaker 1: about your tattoos. We know that you have a lot, 761 00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:18,879 Speaker 1: so is there a favorite? And then I guess what 762 00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:19,640 Speaker 1: do they mean to you? 763 00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:21,160 Speaker 5: All Right? 764 00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:23,880 Speaker 6: So I want to put out a PSA for tattoos. 765 00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:26,560 Speaker 6: Young people should not get tattoos before twenty. 766 00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:27,760 Speaker 3: Five, okay, period. 767 00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:30,520 Speaker 6: I wish that was a law because you know, a 768 00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:34,040 Speaker 6: lot of my tattoos that I got around twenty ten, 769 00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:35,799 Speaker 6: there was a lot of like people that was just 770 00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:39,360 Speaker 6: blasting their bodies and tattoos just top to bottom, and 771 00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:40,480 Speaker 6: I got caught up in that. 772 00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:43,239 Speaker 5: I was living in Germany when I started, and I 773 00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:43,879 Speaker 5: got a lot of. 774 00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:46,359 Speaker 6: Tattoos that, granted they have meaning, or they did at 775 00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:47,279 Speaker 6: the time that I got them. 776 00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:48,960 Speaker 5: If I could go back and redo it, I wouldn't 777 00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:49,360 Speaker 5: have any. 778 00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:53,600 Speaker 6: Of them, just because, like your frontal rope doesn't fully 779 00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:55,960 Speaker 6: develop until you're older as a man at least. 780 00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:58,320 Speaker 5: So, but there's a leg. 781 00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:01,880 Speaker 6: Tattoo that I have that I really appreciate. I appreciate 782 00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:04,680 Speaker 6: this leg tattoo that I have. It's the best work 783 00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:05,920 Speaker 6: that I have and it. 784 00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:08,360 Speaker 5: Was the most painful. So I'll just say my leg tattoo. 785 00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:11,520 Speaker 6: Matter of fact, we should probably send a picture in 786 00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:13,000 Speaker 6: and y'all could just flash it. 787 00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:18,000 Speaker 1: Barness, is there is there like like significance behind it. 788 00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:19,120 Speaker 5: Yeah. 789 00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:21,600 Speaker 6: So I have these pictures in my living room with 790 00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:25,319 Speaker 6: this warrior tribe from Africa, and I decided that it 791 00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:27,680 Speaker 6: was a family. It was a family, and I wanted 792 00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:30,520 Speaker 6: to put the daughter on my leg because just what 793 00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:32,799 Speaker 6: she represented, just like a strength. She reminded me of 794 00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:35,560 Speaker 6: my mother in a lot of ways because my mother 795 00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:39,280 Speaker 6: she passed when I was fifteen, but she was a warrior. 796 00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:41,880 Speaker 6: My mother was a warrior to me, you know, to 797 00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:44,600 Speaker 6: watch her raised kids and battle breast cancer the way 798 00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:47,120 Speaker 6: that she did it was just she reminded me of 799 00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:48,600 Speaker 6: my mother. As soon as I saw so, I was like, 800 00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:49,640 Speaker 6: I want to put that on my leg. 801 00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:52,800 Speaker 3: Wow, Wow, thank you for sharing. 802 00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:58,240 Speaker 1: I'm like, we love significance and we love meaning, Okay, 803 00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:01,240 Speaker 1: I think Yeah, Honestly. 804 00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:02,680 Speaker 2: We could talk for hours. 805 00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:05,960 Speaker 1: I feel like Kathy probably would not ever want to 806 00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:11,080 Speaker 1: not stop talking to you. But unfortunately for Kathy, we 807 00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:13,880 Speaker 1: are gonna have to wrap today with you, Chris. But 808 00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:17,880 Speaker 1: I am so excited that we got this fun Like 809 00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:20,800 Speaker 1: just honestly, you're just full of so much. 810 00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:22,120 Speaker 3: Like joy and life. 811 00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:26,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, like it really is. Like it's a trust me. 812 00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:28,040 Speaker 1: It's a breath of fresh air at least here in 813 00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:28,680 Speaker 1: Bachelor Nation. 814 00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:31,800 Speaker 2: And I just have a feeling that we're gonna get. 815 00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:34,360 Speaker 1: To know a lot more about you and you obviously 816 00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:37,600 Speaker 1: we'll be back on Bachelor Happy Hours. So before we leave, 817 00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:40,920 Speaker 1: where can people keep up with you? Where can they 818 00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:44,280 Speaker 1: follow you up? Throw in some taglines for us? 819 00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:51,040 Speaker 6: My Instagram has been even before the show, before the announcement, 820 00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:54,040 Speaker 6: my Instagram started doing very well because I cut my hair. 821 00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:57,080 Speaker 6: So when I did the show, I had longer hair 822 00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:58,000 Speaker 6: and then I put. 823 00:39:57,800 --> 00:39:59,239 Speaker 5: It in now. 824 00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:02,920 Speaker 6: So I did this video and it just did very well. 825 00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:06,040 Speaker 6: A lot of people was invested in me cutting my hair. Yeah, 826 00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:08,959 Speaker 6: my Instagram is the number one hundred one zero zero 827 00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:11,920 Speaker 6: w A y S one hundred ways to live the 828 00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:14,080 Speaker 6: number two period on Instagram. 829 00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:16,640 Speaker 1: Okay, thank you so much, Christopher. I like to keep 830 00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:20,279 Speaker 1: following you, Chris. I don't know why, just you know, great. 831 00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:23,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, it was great to meet. Yeah. 832 00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:24,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, you guys have a good day. 833 00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:25,879 Speaker 2: Yes you too. 834 00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:30,000 Speaker 1: We'll talk soon, all right, everyone, that was a great 835 00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:33,759 Speaker 1: interview with Christopher. Make sure that you rate, review, subscribe 836 00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:36,000 Speaker 1: wherever you were listening to our podcast, and make sure 837 00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:39,080 Speaker 1: you're following us on Bachelor Happy Hour and Bachelor Nation. 838 00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:40,600 Speaker 3: We'll see you guys doing Bye.