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Speaker 1: The Around the NFL Podcast doesn't think Caddy Shack is funny.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast.

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Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hansas, and I am joined by

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Speaker 1: a room filled with heroes, Mark Sessler, Chris Westling and

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Speaker 1: Greg Rosaal. What's up, boys? Hey? Dan Irish und dogs

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Speaker 1: all time, and I'm They said it could have been done.

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Speaker 1: They doubted us, they called us chumps. But in the end,

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Speaker 1: the shield, yes, the shield of all teams have one.

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Speaker 1: A softball Championship of the City of Los Angeles C

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Speaker 1: plus Division. Yes, that's actually the name of the division,

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Speaker 1: which tells you a lot shocking the world, or at

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Speaker 1: least West l A with back to back victories on

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Speaker 1: Thursday night to claim the title. A lot of champion ends. Actually,

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Speaker 1: we're all champions now. West Your takeaways, you you battled

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Speaker 1: through the hamstring wisely, and I thought showed great leadership,

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Speaker 1: took yourself out of the lineup so that I couldn't

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Speaker 1: had a great perspective on everything that unfolded on what

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Speaker 1: was truly a special night in Los Angeles. Well, the

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Speaker 1: first takeaway is just the absolute unbridled glee that had

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Speaker 1: just so fun and everybody was wearing these huge smiles

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Speaker 1: the rest of the night. I mean, we always celebrate

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Speaker 1: well whether we win or lose, and the celebration went

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Speaker 1: well into the night. And then I think to two

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Speaker 1: reasons why we won. Our defense was tight, really tight.

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Speaker 1: Irish played awesome at third. Tony Garcia, I've been playing

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Speaker 1: softball since n He's the best shortstop I've ever seen.

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Speaker 1: Our defense was tight. And the base running, base running.

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Speaker 1: We ran the bases like demons and forces the other

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Speaker 1: team into a lot of errors when you do that.

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Speaker 1: And Greg Rosenthal, you were in the stands, you saw

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Speaker 1: it all. You had a great view for the finals matchup,

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Speaker 1: and did you sense like a wave building of of

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Speaker 1: glorious Well, I showed up. You had to play two

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Speaker 1: games in one night against two teams that have barely

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Speaker 1: lost all year, right their records fine, three losses all year,

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Speaker 1: nearly spotless. I showed up. After the first game. The

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Speaker 1: was when Dre Andrea Kazadah down down in the new

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Speaker 1: field made the play one of the top five or

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Speaker 1: six sports moments of the decade as far as I'm concerned,

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Speaker 1: any play the play of the game, running in from

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Speaker 1: the game. That was in the exciting an incredible shoe

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Speaker 1: shoe string catch. And as a manager, I inscribed the

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Speaker 1: game balls. I gave dre O one and I just

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Speaker 1: history will remember it. For sheer difference of making magnitude magnitude,

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Speaker 1: It's hard to come up with a situation that would

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Speaker 1: matter more in a game. Bass is loaded, the best

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Speaker 1: hitter in the league up to bat, sinking liner and

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Speaker 1: think they just scored ten runs at any and instead

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Speaker 1: they get zero. It's and there are NFL parallels. You

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Speaker 1: look at a team like the Ravens a few years ago,

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Speaker 1: the Giants. We weren't the best team, but we got

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Speaker 1: hot at the right time and we peaked and we

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Speaker 1: are now champions. And and thank you everyone on Twitter

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Speaker 1: you know all the great video that was taking everybody

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Speaker 1: because we just we turned a team that had no

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Speaker 1: He was outstanding all season. I think one of the

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Speaker 1: But above all, I thought on on Thursday night, fielding

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Speaker 1: But I couldn't have been happier for you, guys. It's

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Speaker 1: Try us. Great show today guys coming up. Um, the

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Speaker 1: now a lot of news to get to suspensions, people

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Speaker 1: You make it sounds so evil. Signature bosson a marriage. Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 1: football's back. Everyone's excited. Hey, guys might not be back

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Speaker 1: There's a I mean, I'm not defending right Hardy on

427
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Speaker 1: any level, but it's a lot of bad guys playing football,

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Speaker 1: a lot of bad guys who have owned up to

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Speaker 1: their mistakes. I think that's not a small thing. That's

430
00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:09,600
Speaker 1: a very big thing. And I would say, if you

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Speaker 1: sign if you signed this guy, uh, Greg Hardy in July,

432
00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:15,920
Speaker 1: you gotta deal with the PR fall out all through

433
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Speaker 1: the quiet time in the NFL calendar, all through training camp.

434
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Speaker 1: It probably it would make more sense if you were

435
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Speaker 1: trying to avoid that type of heat. Yeah, bring him

436
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Speaker 1: in the middle of the season, if he's not signed yet,

437
00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:28,200
Speaker 1: you probably avoid some of that backlash that you would

438
00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:29,639
Speaker 1: get if you did during the office. Well, plus you

439
00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:31,920
Speaker 1: nailed at the get the contract after week one is

440
00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:34,920
Speaker 1: a completely different situation. You want you wanna think about

441
00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:38,200
Speaker 1: a team that doesn't care about negative media opinion, it's

442
00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:41,160
Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys, and the Dallas Cowboys could not wait

443
00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:45,120
Speaker 1: for Greg Hardy to leave, not because everyone criticized them

444
00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:47,000
Speaker 1: and they took a PR hit, but because he was

445
00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:49,480
Speaker 1: a pain in the ass. They didn't like having him there.

446
00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:51,200
Speaker 1: He was a good player on the field, He made

447
00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:55,440
Speaker 1: a big difference per play in terms of his effectiveness

448
00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:57,760
Speaker 1: last year. And yet Jerry Jones, of all people, who

449
00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:01,520
Speaker 1: is very uh lenient into ms of his player's behavior

450
00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:03,879
Speaker 1: as long as they care about football and they're not

451
00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:05,600
Speaker 1: a cancer in locker room. Could not wait for that

452
00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:10,320
Speaker 1: guy to leave. Uh More troubled NFL star talk. This

453
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Speaker 1: one raiders past sarcer. Alden Smith, who is currently suspended

454
00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:19,080
Speaker 1: the NFL, is reportedly looking into a video posted on

455
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Speaker 1: periscope by what some people believe and many people believe

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Speaker 1: is Aldon Smith. Um. What shows us a man that

457
00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:32,119
Speaker 1: maybe Alvin Smith, smoking a joint, UM, getting some grief

458
00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:35,640
Speaker 1: from a woman off camera who is saying, you shouldn't

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Speaker 1: even be doing that. And then this person, who again

460
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Speaker 1: many people believe to be Aldon Smith. And the evidence

461
00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:43,800
Speaker 1: is there because it's an account that he created a

462
00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:47,879
Speaker 1: sub account other postings on this account. UM show his

463
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Speaker 1: face and it's Aldon Smith. And it sounds like the

464
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Speaker 1: same guy in the video that we're talking about here, UM.

465
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Speaker 1: And he's holding a joint and he's smoking in and

466
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Speaker 1: this is the last thing all this should ever be doing.

467
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Speaker 1: And it's how to be up there and one of

468
00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:04,960
Speaker 1: the stupidest things I've ever seen a player do. A

469
00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:08,239
Speaker 1: guy that's really his career is at the crossroads, very

470
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Speaker 1: much still and I even cut a little I asked

471
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Speaker 1: Brandon to cut a little bit of the audio because

472
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Speaker 1: it also includes one of the dumbest errors and judgment

473
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Speaker 1: history of humanity at the very end. Please listen, this

474
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Speaker 1: is you. They don't know it's a Smith. I mean,

475
00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:35,080
Speaker 1: talk about bad editing. You gotta edit that. That's the

476
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Speaker 1: final two seconds or three seconds of the video. You've

477
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Speaker 1: got to take that out. By the way, have you

478
00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:41,159
Speaker 1: ever heard of voice recognition? I mean, all they have

479
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Speaker 1: to do is listen to any other video clip of

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Speaker 1: Alden Smith and make your own decision. It's not like

481
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Speaker 1: I'm saying, hey, it's me Aldon Smith on a periscope

482
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Speaker 1: account that has probably fifteen first person videos Alden Smith

483
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Speaker 1: talking into the camera about his goings on. Right and

484
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Speaker 1: right before that, the transcript s N Bay Area dot

485
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Speaker 1: Com did was is the woman saying you shouldn't even

486
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Speaker 1: be posted that? And he says expletive do you see

487
00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:09,080
Speaker 1: my face? And then they get to the fire about

488
00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:14,040
Speaker 1: the name like sometimes like oh, maybe he doesn't have

489
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Speaker 1: the right people around him, not I don't know anything

490
00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:19,080
Speaker 1: about this woman or again evidence and it's definitely him.

491
00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:21,800
Speaker 1: But like she's saying to him. You shouldn't do this

492
00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:25,520
Speaker 1: because you cannot be doing this because of your history

493
00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:27,560
Speaker 1: and how much trouble you can get into. It's like,

494
00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:30,040
Speaker 1: I no, I don't care. You can't see me. We

495
00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:33,560
Speaker 1: see what is the upside of the video either, like

496
00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:35,840
Speaker 1: what is he helping to get It's called it was

497
00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:42,320
Speaker 1: his quote fire up session. I mean that's good, that's good. Listen,

498
00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:44,040
Speaker 1: when you got to post your fire up session, you

499
00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:51,879
Speaker 1: gotta post it. M wet boy. Anyway, retirement talk. I mean,

500
00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:53,320
Speaker 1: we're not gonna see all this Smith for a while.

501
00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:59,399
Speaker 1: This has to yeah, goes perfectly. But he's you know, right,

502
00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:02,520
Speaker 1: he's supposed to be coming back mid season and this,

503
00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:04,880
Speaker 1: this and whatever he's got all this time in front

504
00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:07,480
Speaker 1: of him too. If you were if you were guessing,

505
00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:09,639
Speaker 1: you would have to guess something will happen or this

506
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:12,199
Speaker 1: will be enough that he won't be waiting for these Raiders,

507
00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:14,000
Speaker 1: and West said it to the One thing about the

508
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:17,040
Speaker 1: suspensions is it does seem like goodell. If the player

509
00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:21,159
Speaker 1: has the right attitude and shows growth, that affects the

510
00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:23,199
Speaker 1: timetable to get back on the field. And this is

511
00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:28,280
Speaker 1: just pure idiocy. We all believe that the NFL's marijuana

512
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:32,560
Speaker 1: rules are antiquated, but this guy has well documented substance

513
00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:35,120
Speaker 1: abuse issues. He shouldn't be I mean, it goes without

514
00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:38,000
Speaker 1: saying that this is gonna come back on him, alright.

515
00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:42,800
Speaker 1: Retirement talk. Greg Jennings, the former Packers wide receiver that

516
00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:45,600
Speaker 1: had his best years in Green Bay later played UH

517
00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:49,960
Speaker 1: in Minnesota UH to lesser impact, has decided to retire.

518
00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:56,040
Speaker 1: He announced his retirement on YouTube. UM and he leaves

519
00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:58,320
Speaker 1: the game as a guy that, you know, never the

520
00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:01,159
Speaker 1: most talented wide receiver. It was a guy who's in

521
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:04,760
Speaker 1: the right place for sure. UH, somebody that caught touchdown

522
00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:08,479
Speaker 1: passes from both Brett Farve and Aaron Rodgers in his prime,

523
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:10,840
Speaker 1: and it it is. I always looked at him as

524
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Speaker 1: as here's a word of warning, because when he still

525
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:16,280
Speaker 1: had years left in the tank, when he's about twenty

526
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:19,200
Speaker 1: nine years old, hitting free agency and he thought the

527
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:22,119
Speaker 1: Packers were disrespecting him, he went to Minnesota and became

528
00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:26,280
Speaker 1: irrelevant and then his career was over shortly thereafter. Take

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00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:29,920
Speaker 1: less money, stay with the star quarterback, get those numbers.

530
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:32,160
Speaker 1: You'll get more money in the long run. Greg Jennings

531
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 1: didn't take that path, But that's another conversation. Super Bowl champion,

532
00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:40,879
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl guy, career over after ten seasons. Great not

533
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:43,639
Speaker 1: to mention, don't talk trash about your quarterback and his

534
00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:47,560
Speaker 1: leadership skills on your way out the door and burn

535
00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:51,200
Speaker 1: a bridge where he would be a hero in Green Bay.

536
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:52,920
Speaker 1: Who knows, maybe he could have gotten a ring of honor,

537
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:55,200
Speaker 1: maybe not in Green Bay. But either way, he's he's

538
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:57,720
Speaker 1: he's a guy who's an enemy now in Green Bay. Well,

539
00:27:57,720 --> 00:27:59,679
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers has a good like sense of humor and

540
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:05,239
Speaker 1: doesn't take this right. He should be beloved because this

541
00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:09,680
Speaker 1: is a guy who in the playoffs when they won.

542
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:11,720
Speaker 1: First of all, I caught an amazing amount of big

543
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Speaker 1: time touchdowns. He had that overtime touchdown against the Broncos

544
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Speaker 1: from Brett Farve. He had Brett Farve's record tying and

545
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:21,600
Speaker 1: record breaking touchdowns when he passed Dan Marino. And he

546
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:24,640
Speaker 1: had a monster playoff run when they won the Super Bowl,

547
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:27,679
Speaker 1: including a couple of scores in the Super Bowl. But

548
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:30,119
Speaker 1: I remember being at the game and that third and

549
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:33,760
Speaker 1: ten play with just under six minutes remaining, after the

550
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:36,800
Speaker 1: Steelers were coming on like gangbusters. It looked like the

551
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:39,520
Speaker 1: Packers are gonna give the ball back only up three

552
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:43,640
Speaker 1: and just a precision, unbelievable throw by Aaron Rodgers in

553
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:46,680
Speaker 1: that situation. But it also took a nice catch from

554
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Speaker 1: Greg Jennings over the arts outstretched hands of Ike Taylor. Taylor,

555
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 1: uh and that just I mean he's he put up

556
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:55,520
Speaker 1: plays like that that I'm sure Packers fans are gonna

557
00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 1: remember forever. For a half decade from two thousand seven

558
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:00,520
Speaker 1: to two thousand and eleven, he was one of the

559
00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 1: five most productive wide receivers in the NFL. HM I

560
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:07,720
Speaker 1: take that career, sure, why not? And he's rich. He

561
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:09,960
Speaker 1: saw him on Ballers. I believe I was watching some

562
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:14,640
Speaker 1: old episodes of Ballers. He really started. He started the

563
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 1: trend of Ted Thompson hitting non guys from random colleges

564
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:21,000
Speaker 1: at wide receiver second round picking from Western Michigan. What

565
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:24,320
Speaker 1: are you laughing about? Ballers? Now? We'll talk about it

566
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:30,280
Speaker 1: after and other retirement news, Three time Pro Bowled defensive

567
00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:34,080
Speaker 1: end Darnell Dockett is also retiring after ten years a

568
00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 1: career forty and a half sacks. Hey, a shared record

569
00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 1: for the most QB takedowns of the Super Bowl. That's

570
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 1: a good tribute. I m bank that for when we

571
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:45,800
Speaker 1: bring back whin West is toaster if we bring back

572
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:48,960
Speaker 1: when West is toaster. But West is here right now.

573
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:54,360
Speaker 1: He just heard the answer. He'll forget. He'll forget. It's

574
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:57,520
Speaker 1: also not his toaster at this point. It's checks toasta.

575
00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 1: That's fair. But anyway, Donald Puckett, who later went to

576
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:05,680
Speaker 1: the forty Niners, um his careers over after ten years

577
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:09,240
Speaker 1: and a colorful guy, one of the most colorful Twitter

578
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:12,080
Speaker 1: accounts out there, but also West. Uh. He was a

579
00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:15,600
Speaker 1: good player in his day. The Cardinals franchise has been

580
00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 1: around longer than any in the NFL. They started in

581
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:21,960
Speaker 1: nineteen as the Chicago Cardinals, and he is on their

582
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:25,479
Speaker 1: all time team as a defensive end seventh and sacks

583
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:29,080
Speaker 1: French for the franchise. Absolutely, and he was a fun

584
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:31,200
Speaker 1: guy on Twitter. I think that's how people remember him now.

585
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:35,840
Speaker 1: But unless a J McCarron, uh, that's right. He did

586
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:39,040
Speaker 1: have an obsession with a J. Mccaren's now wife. Uh.

587
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:42,480
Speaker 1: Or if you're yeah that out there, if you're a

588
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:46,160
Speaker 1: little person, and maybe you're a fan of document I

589
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:48,440
Speaker 1: don't know if you're a little person. He has a

590
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:53,280
Speaker 1: well documented adoration of little people. But I was gonna

591
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 1: get I was gonna get some fun player to watch.

592
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:58,120
Speaker 1: He he was one where you never got cheated on

593
00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:02,240
Speaker 1: his effort. He was always going a hundred miles. Uh.

594
00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:06,520
Speaker 1: Injury news Junior Galette, who uh missed all of last season,

595
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:09,640
Speaker 1: all of his first season with what the Washington Redskins

596
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:12,720
Speaker 1: with a torn achilles. He's gonna miss all the second

597
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:16,080
Speaker 1: season with the Washington Redskins. He tours achilles again, this

598
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 1: time his right achilles. He tore his left last season.

599
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 1: So this just feels like forever ago. But Gilette was

600
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:27,000
Speaker 1: uh signed to a major contract in New Orleans after

601
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:30,760
Speaker 1: some really big seasons UH with them that ended really

602
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 1: terribly with a lot of he said. She said he

603
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:36,640
Speaker 1: was getting the fresh start in Washington. But now at

604
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:39,600
Speaker 1: age eight, he'll be twenty nine next March, coming off

605
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:43,360
Speaker 1: double achilles ruptures. Uh. You have to wonder if Junior

606
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:46,800
Speaker 1: Galette is going to get back on the field. I

607
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:50,320
Speaker 1: wonder how the Redskins are gonna rush the passer. It's

608
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:52,440
Speaker 1: a big loss for them. They're they're not a good friend.

609
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:55,440
Speaker 1: Ryan Kerrigan and Preston Smith showed pretty well as a

610
00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:58,880
Speaker 1: rookie last year. That's a it's a solid outside linebacker duo.

611
00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:01,960
Speaker 1: That's basically what they call Karragan at this point, and

612
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:04,720
Speaker 1: Gallette would have been part of that. But other than that,

613
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:07,840
Speaker 1: the defensive line I think as questions, and overall the

614
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:09,680
Speaker 1: defense I think has a lot of questions. Don't sleep

615
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:12,960
Speaker 1: on Chris Baker had a great year last year. I'll

616
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 1: throw out a pass rusher, yeah, Greg Hardy. No, you

617
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 1: cannot replace junior Glette with Greg Hardy. That is just

618
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:22,760
Speaker 1: asking the kind of the karma gods. I remember Chris

619
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:27,000
Speaker 1: Wesley and having a memorable rant against the junior glete

620
00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 1: for his own off field activis. I don't remember having

621
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 1: showing much contrition either. He's there two ps in the pot.

622
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:36,640
Speaker 1: The only thing that the Redskins got away with here

623
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 1: is they didn't really give him any almost any money

624
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:40,480
Speaker 1: in either of these years. It looks like it could

625
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 1: have been a steel. It was close to the veteran

626
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 1: minimum for for the two seasons, so it wasn't a

627
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:47,640
Speaker 1: huge setback for them, but they were expecting him to

628
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:49,920
Speaker 1: play a lot of snaps. It is just another remind

629
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:51,840
Speaker 1: were at that time of year where we can do

630
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:54,960
Speaker 1: all our little off season, what roster re setting, and

631
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:58,840
Speaker 1: where we are then then players bodies start exploding and everything,

632
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 1: the whole, the whole map chain. Just I mean, we're aping, well,

633
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:04,480
Speaker 1: we're gonna I guarantee within three weeks we'll have four

634
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:09,600
Speaker 1: passive injuries, four massive injuries that change four teams, you

635
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:13,080
Speaker 1: know instantly. I don't, I don't necessarily doubt there will

636
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:16,880
Speaker 1: be injuries. Well, if there was an NFL season with

637
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:20,960
Speaker 1: no injuries, that would be absolutely stunning. I just the

638
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:25,040
Speaker 1: idea of one a player actually blowing up, well up,

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Speaker 1: I mean this guy, I don't know, We don't ever

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Speaker 1: know what these athletes are going through. You have to

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Speaker 1: rehab in two different achilles and two two. That's a

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Speaker 1: bad two year deal for any person. I don't think

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Speaker 1: that would be fun Do you think the NFL would

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Speaker 1: end if someone exploded on the field? Would they either

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Speaker 1: have to end the game or turn it too like

646
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Speaker 1: two hand touch. I think they treated like nine eleven,

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Speaker 1: like take a week off, then we get back into

648
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Speaker 1: and you're making a lot of money in football. Oh

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Speaker 1: so you think like after the person exploded would be like, wait,

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Speaker 1: can we be funny anymore? They would get really you know,

651
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:57,320
Speaker 1: people have about a two week attention span tops for

652
00:33:57,360 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 1: even the biggest issues. So they'd skip a week, it

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00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:01,120
Speaker 1: would look good and they get right back to action.

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Speaker 1: He's gonna say, feel free to say whatever you want

655
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Speaker 1: because all of this is gonna be edited out. Uh No,

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Speaker 1: that's all staying in. Moving on sad news in the

657
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Speaker 1: NFL on Friday, Dennis Green, the former Vikings and later

658
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Speaker 1: Cardinals coach, passed away Thursday night from complications related to

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Speaker 1: a cardiac arrest. According to his family, he was sixty

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Speaker 1: seven years old. And uh, Wes, you are our resident

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Speaker 1: football historian. Um, I remember uh Green as a guy

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Speaker 1: that lorded over many very good Viking teams, including the

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Speaker 1: ninety eight team that just missed getting over the hump

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Speaker 1: uh Gary Anderson's miss field goal of course in the

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Speaker 1: NFC title game. What was Dennis Green? Uh? In terms

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Speaker 1: of football history? Where does he fit in? I think

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Speaker 1: he's a really good longtime coach, and as an African

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00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 1: African American, he had a huge impact on bringing other

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Speaker 1: guys into the league and kind of opening the door

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Speaker 1: for uh for guys like Mike Tomlin and Tony Dungee.

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Speaker 1: So I think that's his greatest impact. But that Vikings team,

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Speaker 1: their one miss kicked being away from being remembered as

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Speaker 1: one of the greatest teams in history. And it's the

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl that you know, if you were a fan

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Speaker 1: back then, I'll never forget where I was in that game,

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00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 1: and it was just a crazy game. It's the Super

677
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 1: Bowl matchup that we so badly wanted that we'll never see.

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Speaker 1: And this guy, Dennis Green, he came out of Bill

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00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:23,759
Speaker 1: Walsh's West Coast. He was a West Coast offense guy.

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Speaker 1: Worked with Randall Cunningham, Dante Culpepper, Kurt Warner, Warren Moon,

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Speaker 1: Chris Carter, Randy Moss, Emmett Smith, Edge, James Larry Fitzgerald,

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Speaker 1: and Koon Bolden. I mean, here's no end of the

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Speaker 1: list of guys that he impacted. He made Jeff George

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Speaker 1: look good for a year in Minnesota. That was the thing.

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Speaker 1: He was one of the Well what about what do

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Speaker 1: you did with Randall Cunningham. Yeah, that's that's I think

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Speaker 1: you have to give Dennis Green some credit for for

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Speaker 1: each year they'd have a different player there, whether it's

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Speaker 1: Cunningham or George. And eventually Culpepper ended up having the

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Speaker 1: greatest UH non m v P season probably in the

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Speaker 1: history of football when he lost it to to Peyton Manning.

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Speaker 1: You have to give Dennis Green a lot of credit

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Speaker 1: for keeping the offense at that higher level year and

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Speaker 1: the year after year. Is he the sneaky under the

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Speaker 1: radar all time? QB Whisper. I think he very He's

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Speaker 1: very much in that conversation because the guys who talk

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Speaker 1: about now he was doing it before all those guys.

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Speaker 1: But he does his his legacy does get boiled down

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Speaker 1: to that nine team. Of course, his rant, his podium

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Speaker 1: rant with the Cardinals. But yeah, as West alluded to,

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Speaker 1: and as as Mark and Gregg said, uh, much more

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Speaker 1: to um Dennis Green than just those two aspects. Uh

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Speaker 1: dead at the age of sixties seven. And that's what's

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00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 1: happening in the news at the off season anymore. That's

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Speaker 1: a lot of news. It is not the off season anymore.

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Speaker 1: And uh listen, I know it made West and Gregg

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Speaker 1: very uncomfortable when we talked about the exploding player. I

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00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:54,359
Speaker 1: don't think that's there's nothing comfortable about those type of conversations,

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Speaker 1: but it's it's important, especially in these times, to communicate.

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Speaker 1: We have to be willing to verse about those things.

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Speaker 1: By the way, we got our MVP coins. We'll talk

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Speaker 1: about celebration is holding his right taking home with your

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Speaker 1: uh and you know I gave I gave the shield

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Speaker 1: some not our softle team the NFL A little bit

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Speaker 1: of heat that you win an m v P and

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Speaker 1: you get a five dollar gift certificate with your coin. Well,

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00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:24,560
Speaker 1: they proved me wrong. It was ten dollars. I think. Well,

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Speaker 1: were your complaints the engine behind this doubling the price?

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I can't be I can't be sure

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Speaker 1: I can get that coffee I always wanted. Never I've

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Speaker 1: never had a cup of coffee in my life. By

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Speaker 1: the way, have a Starbucks machine in our break room,

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Speaker 1: So I don't think here's my theory. By the way,

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Speaker 1: to answer that question, do I think that me saying

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Speaker 1: that got the extra five bucks? No, Because I have

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Speaker 1: on I could say this with a pretty good sense

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Speaker 1: of confidence that no one from park Avenuees ever listened

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Speaker 1: to this podcast. Well, I think you're right, from Roger

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00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:58,319
Speaker 1: on down. I remember when you had a beef with

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Speaker 1: the parking people in our building. You went public with

731
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:03,440
Speaker 1: that on Twitter and the results were nothing. There were

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Speaker 1: no results, So I don't think you complaining has gotten

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Speaker 1: you much. Well, that was right there, a gauntlet being

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Speaker 1: thrown down that if those listeners in three park are

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Speaker 1: are out there, they should, you know, come let us

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Speaker 1: come at us. I used to work there, Dan, I

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Speaker 1: was for a year, tweeted the commissioner. I have no

738
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 1: response from this guy. How about get back to me

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Speaker 1: on Twitter, Commissioner. I don't think it's gonna happen. Well,

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Speaker 1: I mean, why would you not. Why would you not

741
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Speaker 1: get into a conversation with one of your own employees,

742
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Speaker 1: a very hard working, pretty important job that I'm gonna say.

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Speaker 1: I'm saying gonna take this a little bit further. So

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Speaker 1: nobody in three anyone with an assigned parking spot at

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Speaker 1: this company. No one has listened to the show, Henry.

746
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 1: I mean it might be good for us that that's

747
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:54,840
Speaker 1: the reality. Might be the reason we're still going. I

748
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:56,880
Speaker 1: think that's part of it. Yeah, maybe we should just

749
00:38:56,880 --> 00:39:02,800
Speaker 1: shut up. Let's talk about potential camp cuts. A banger

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00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:07,239
Speaker 1: from Greg Rosenthal, and I like the way you do this,

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00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:09,880
Speaker 1: you know sometimes Greg, because I honestly speak honestly with

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00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:14,120
Speaker 1: you and candidly about your page layout sometimes and your headlines.

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00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:17,479
Speaker 1: I think you did a nice job breaking this down

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Speaker 1: into tiered sections. So you have big name veterans, Wessel.

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Speaker 1: I think it's really funny who's number one on that list?

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00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:29,239
Speaker 1: First round picks running out of chances, which I like

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00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 1: that saucy, and then free agency deal has gone wrong

758
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:35,520
Speaker 1: like that, and then running backs on the edge. Now

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00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:38,160
Speaker 1: I get a little chunky here, running backs on the edge.

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00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:41,839
Speaker 1: And finally the last six pack, which is your your

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00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:46,719
Speaker 1: edition of odds and ends. Uh. Yeah, you know, we're

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Speaker 1: working with a great editing team as well, so sometimes

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Speaker 1: they have a say in these miss t in one

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Speaker 1: of the subheads they can can add in the last one.

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Speaker 1: So anyway, so let's start with that first category. Um,

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Speaker 1: big name veterans. This is the stuff that really gets

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00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 1: people juiced. I'll do it real quick. One through six.

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Speaker 1: Victor Cruz that that's what for West uh Arian Foster

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Speaker 1: now with the Dolphins. C J. Spiller with the Saints,

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Speaker 1: Gyrus Bird, Jeris Ruse of the Saints, Devin Hester of

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Speaker 1: the Falcons, still good Nick Foles of the Rams. That's

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Speaker 1: at six. So do you put this in auto? Greg?

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Speaker 1: Of who there's likely who of this group. Greg will

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Speaker 1: start out that way is most likely to get the

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Speaker 1: axe in your mind, that's a good way. But well

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Speaker 1: falls because falls is almost a fatal. Okay. I almost

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Speaker 1: didn't put him on the list because it's so obvious.

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Speaker 1: But he was a guy that, uh got a six

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Speaker 1: million dollar roster bonus this year and a seven million

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Speaker 1: dollar contract only a year ago. So I do think.

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Speaker 1: I do think he's notable because the team like the

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Speaker 1: Broncos of the Forts, could trade for him. Devin Hester

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Speaker 1: would be the next one. But how about let's let's

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Speaker 1: talk about the bigger names. I would say Bird out

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Speaker 1: of those others, because if he does not get healthy,

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Speaker 1: even though financially it does not help them, bired, it

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00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:10,799
Speaker 1: costs more money to get rid of him than it

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Speaker 1: does to keep him. If he's not healthy again, I

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00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:14,719
Speaker 1: think at some point you just gotta give up. And

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Speaker 1: they got a lot of safeties there. They have von Bell,

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Speaker 1: they have Roman Harper back, uh, they have Kenny macaro.

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Speaker 1: Of course they can get by with it. Can I

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Speaker 1: be straight honest with you, please, If you would have

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Speaker 1: told me Devin Hester was and has been out of

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00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 1: the league for three years, I would have been like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's that kind of checks out. He was good in

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Speaker 1: his first season in Atlanta, played wide receiver and was

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Speaker 1: a good returner. I believe he made the Pro Bowl.

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Speaker 1: Uh yeah, he It's it's surprising that he's still thirty

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Speaker 1: three years on that roster. The first three names were

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Speaker 1: a little bolder, which were Spiller, Foster and Cruz Fosters.

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00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:51,640
Speaker 1: The contract tells you that he's gonna have to play

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Speaker 1: for that role, but he might have the highest of

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Speaker 1: those these three names risk reward or at least the

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Speaker 1: highest upside. I would think if somehow listen. Unless you

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Speaker 1: pointed out when we talked about the signing, he wasn't

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00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:07,359
Speaker 1: looking too good before he got hurt. So maybe it's

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00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:10,320
Speaker 1: really you're asking a lot, but they desperately need another

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Speaker 1: guy in there with a gi I think that he

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Speaker 1: could have a big pay payoff, but I don't know

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Speaker 1: if it's gonna happen. Victor Cruz, I mean, well, well,

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Speaker 1: we'll do the analysis once he actually plays a football game.

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Speaker 1: You know what I realized writing this piece that either

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Speaker 1: I missed her totally forgot that the Giants guaranteed his

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Speaker 1: entire salary when they gave him a pay cut this year,

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Speaker 1: so that would make him less likely to get cut

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Speaker 1: and It got me thinking how many organizations would have

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Speaker 1: done that? When they talk about that the Giants are

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Speaker 1: you know that, you know, you get anno idea that

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Speaker 1: the Giants often called a classy organization. You know, they

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Speaker 1: get a lot of credit in your This would be

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Speaker 1: a case of that. This is a case of a

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Speaker 1: team decided to just guarantee him money as a show

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Speaker 1: of faith. I don't think a lot of teams would

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Speaker 1: have done something like that. Oh way, how many This

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Speaker 1: is just a bit of assessler here. Fantasy owners who

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Speaker 1: were gonna show their friends how smart they are and

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Speaker 1: take Sterling Shepherd in the fifth round and then going

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Speaker 1: to be upset when he was thirty one catches Well,

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Speaker 1: why did you play fantasy to begin with? How are

831
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Speaker 1: you predicting doom for Sterling Shepherd? I'm just saying this

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Speaker 1: is for first of all, Mark, what is your problem

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00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:16,760
Speaker 1: with fantasy? Honestly, how much time do we have? We

834
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Speaker 1: were run out of time? Give me, give me a brief,

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Speaker 1: I don't I just think for me personally, I and

836
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Speaker 1: then it's great for everyone else. I am covering football

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Speaker 1: all day long, every day, and I don't need an

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00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:30,400
Speaker 1: added layer of football that isn't real that I have

839
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Speaker 1: to deal with. I've got enough. I'm dealing with reality.

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Speaker 1: I have a theory. Staring it right in the face,

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Speaker 1: I have a theory. Mark is a bit of a

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00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:38,919
Speaker 1: joy kill in the newsroom. You don't like when people

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00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:41,359
Speaker 1: are too excited and like watching games. I don't think

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Speaker 1: that's a fair categorization. A big, a big thing. We've

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Speaker 1: been Mark, you and I have been in the newsroom forever.

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00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:50,239
Speaker 1: Now this will be our six or seventh season. Um

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00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:53,280
Speaker 1: that adds a whole other level to people being plugged

848
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Speaker 1: in and celebrating. You don't like people see will I

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Speaker 1: will tell you in thirty seconds. The last time I

850
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:02,480
Speaker 1: really truly ran fantasy team was three seasons ago. My

851
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:04,760
Speaker 1: wife was on one with a bunch of co workers

852
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:07,000
Speaker 1: that she didn't really know from other companies, and they

853
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:09,920
Speaker 1: were she was getting killed every year. She's a mom,

854
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:11,759
Speaker 1: she doesn't have time for this stuff. I took over

855
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:13,879
Speaker 1: the team and on the draft I saw people as

856
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:16,520
Speaker 1: all guys ripping on her during the draft, and I

857
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:21,000
Speaker 1: secretly drafted this devastating squad and I took this league down.

858
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:23,800
Speaker 1: We won the championship, and I said I'm never playing again.

859
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:25,960
Speaker 1: That's how you go out. Well, you've been in the

860
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:28,160
Speaker 1: league with me for five straight years. I am simply

861
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 1: my name is a tall If you're this, I'm simply

862
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 1: my name is attached. I've never even known who's on

863
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:35,879
Speaker 1: our roster. If you're so against it, what are your

864
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:39,680
Speaker 1: feelings during our fantasy week here? And are you relinquishing

865
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:43,520
Speaker 1: your role? I told you outsider, because then that name. No, no, no,

866
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:45,759
Speaker 1: I will do this segment. But I told you it's

867
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:48,200
Speaker 1: largely a series of shows, right, just take my foot

868
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:54,120
Speaker 1: off the pedal, like the second half of the season. Yeah,

869
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:56,400
Speaker 1: there was that's a fair question, Mary, Greg does that

870
00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:59,400
Speaker 1: open up that name? Doesn't lift the copyright because I

871
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:02,319
Speaker 1: will have to desider. I will do that part of

872
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:06,719
Speaker 1: the show, which is a very small part professionally. Um, no,

873
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:09,319
Speaker 1: West answer your question. Maybe I'll put it kind of

874
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:12,239
Speaker 1: and totally different players and all that. Cordurel Patterson is

875
00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:14,839
Speaker 1: a guy that comes to mind. There's always the guy,

876
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:19,080
Speaker 1: the buzzy spring summer guy that people get super pumped about,

877
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:22,840
Speaker 1: and then people reach by into that and then he

878
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:24,960
Speaker 1: does not live up to the hype. It just for

879
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:26,840
Speaker 1: for some reason, that name jumps out to me the

880
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:32,720
Speaker 1: fact that he's a giant sterling shepherd sounds busty, different,

881
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:36,600
Speaker 1: very scientific analysis. He is the type of guy that

882
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:39,800
Speaker 1: tends to do well when there's no tackling. He's a

883
00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:41,960
Speaker 1: Victor Cruz clone. You expect him to do well in

884
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:44,000
Speaker 1: the off scene. That said, he has a great he's

885
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:47,160
Speaker 1: got great hands and great shutting ability and what a

886
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:50,239
Speaker 1: route tree blah blah. Talk about someone talk about someone

887
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:53,279
Speaker 1: who appears world weary with football. No, I love it.

888
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:55,920
Speaker 1: I'm just this is just sometimes I think sometimes the

889
00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:58,279
Speaker 1: summer darling pays off though, just at this list, the

890
00:45:58,280 --> 00:45:59,800
Speaker 1: guy at number two, I remember when they are in

891
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:04,760
Speaker 1: Fall was a summer darling. One of your darling number

892
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:06,480
Speaker 1: three on this list, c J. Spiller. It would be

893
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:09,239
Speaker 1: a shame if c J. Spiller in New Orleans does

894
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:12,640
Speaker 1: not work out, because because we spent like probably seventy

895
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:16,880
Speaker 1: or eighty posts. I know. Yeah, I still I'm not

896
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:18,879
Speaker 1: giving up at him. He's on this list because right

897
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:21,120
Speaker 1: now he is behind Tim eight Tower, who finished the

898
00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:24,080
Speaker 1: season off very well last year. And if you're the

899
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 1: number three running back, you can't be making four point

900
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:29,040
Speaker 1: five million. But I wouldn't be surprised if he has

901
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:31,640
Speaker 1: a good camp, good preseason, and he makes a team

902
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:34,040
Speaker 1: and plays the first round picks running out of Chances

903
00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:40,480
Speaker 1: section d J. Hayden, D Miller, uh matt Elam Barkibious Mingo,

904
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:44,200
Speaker 1: Justin Gilbert's got to two Browns on this list, mark

905
00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:46,640
Speaker 1: which one of those Browns is more likely to get

906
00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:52,480
Speaker 1: the acts. I think, Gilbert, that's a toss up. Honestly,

907
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:57,839
Speaker 1: they're they're both have been very disappointing. But the Browns, uh,

908
00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:00,680
Speaker 1: you know, they know that Mingo. Now get out there

909
00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:03,360
Speaker 1: and play games. I think Gilbert has been so detached

910
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:05,840
Speaker 1: mentally that he has a lot to prove. Uh. The

911
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 1: old their defensive coordinator was with Mingo in in the

912
00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:10,200
Speaker 1: past two so he knows who Mingo is. As Greg

913
00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:11,759
Speaker 1: pointed out in his post, here a lot of puff

914
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:14,600
Speaker 1: pieces around Justin Gilbert. No, that is a shot at

915
00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:18,880
Speaker 1: one piece that I wrote, I believe personally. No, no, no,

916
00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:21,400
Speaker 1: I mean I was just reporting the comments where I

917
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:24,279
Speaker 1: didn't I didn't even know that I'm talking about you

918
00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:26,200
Speaker 1: didn't even think to it. So I'm talking about the

919
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:30,040
Speaker 1: local Browns writers and it's not their fault. It's Hugh

920
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:32,879
Speaker 1: Jackson puffing them up. But there were many I did.

921
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:36,359
Speaker 1: I was excited though, if nothing else, research for this

922
00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:40,800
Speaker 1: piece uncovered this article, which I missed when it first

923
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:46,040
Speaker 1: was posted back in April. Quote bodybuilding Granny helps Brown's

924
00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:50,080
Speaker 1: Mingo get jacked by Mark. Well, that's that's how did

925
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:52,920
Speaker 1: I miss this? I don't know. You know, it was

926
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:54,799
Speaker 1: out there for you to find. But I mean, the

927
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 1: one thing about Mingo that we always noticed that he

928
00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:00,200
Speaker 1: could not gain weight. They tried to get him to

929
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:02,480
Speaker 1: get bigger. He's too lean, and he put on like

930
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:05,480
Speaker 1: twenties something pounds working out with this like sixty five

931
00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:09,360
Speaker 1: year old uh you know, former to some degree female bodybuilder,

932
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:11,640
Speaker 1: and he had to do homework with her grandchildren and

933
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:14,040
Speaker 1: eat all the food she made and he got jacked.

934
00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:16,399
Speaker 1: So you're but you're basically banking on the old bag

935
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:19,160
Speaker 1: letting him down. I am not. I don't know. I

936
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:21,600
Speaker 1: wouldn't be surprised if either one of these players are

937
00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:25,279
Speaker 1: not on the roster. On a lot of puff pieces

938
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:28,240
Speaker 1: around Dan Milner also, by the way, I'm not buying

939
00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:30,480
Speaker 1: into it, but people are, Oh, maybe he'll slide in

940
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:33,279
Speaker 1: and he'll give bus to screen, uh, you know, a

941
00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:35,680
Speaker 1: fight for the number two spot at the very at

942
00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:38,839
Speaker 1: the best case scenario, he's a nickel guy that sees

943
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:45,000
Speaker 1: some work. But miss Milner as disappointing as Justin Gilbert. Yes, yes,

944
00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:47,600
Speaker 1: in a lot of ways he is because not only

945
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:51,359
Speaker 1: uh was he a big miss on a top ten pick,

946
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:54,359
Speaker 1: he was also drafted the year or a week after

947
00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 1: Rivas was traded. And did he call himself the best?

948
00:48:57,200 --> 00:48:58,920
Speaker 1: He would be the best cornerback and football. Couple of

949
00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:02,279
Speaker 1: guys do that something time, and it's more of the

950
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:04,799
Speaker 1: fact that not only du Louse ReBs, you brought in

951
00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:07,160
Speaker 1: a total bus so it was like a double killer

952
00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:09,759
Speaker 1: from the team. But you know they're not asking a

953
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:11,720
Speaker 1: lot of them. I'm fine with that was a rough draft.

954
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:14,280
Speaker 1: Now that I'm the rough couple of drafts in the secondary,

955
00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:17,840
Speaker 1: elam at safety d J. Hayden, which was Reggie Mackenzie's

956
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:21,840
Speaker 1: first ever draft pick in Oakland. He's that back nicely.

957
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:26,360
Speaker 1: Those cornerbacks free agency deals gone gone wrong, Arthur Jones

958
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:29,600
Speaker 1: of the Cults, Altron Verner of the Bucks of my

959
00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:33,439
Speaker 1: Brooks and the Niners Um West, which one of those

960
00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:37,440
Speaker 1: guys are going to not only not get cut, but

961
00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:41,440
Speaker 1: bounce back and be a real difference maker in I

962
00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:43,000
Speaker 1: don't think any of them are. But I have a

963
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:45,200
Speaker 1: soft spot for Arthur Jones because he once got me

964
00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:49,600
Speaker 1: three sandwiches from you guys didn't do that, wait, he did,

965
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:52,000
Speaker 1: go get my lunch. Free agent version in the mind

966
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:54,239
Speaker 1: was Arthur Jones will sign with the Colts. You guys

967
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:57,920
Speaker 1: get by the way, that's coming up later next month.

968
00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 1: The big one this is that's you know, we do

969
00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:04,840
Speaker 1: the go get my lunch clown every uh, you know,

970
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:07,120
Speaker 1: every quarter of the football season it breaks down to.

971
00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:10,319
Speaker 1: But the biggest one is the regular season predictions. Uh

972
00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:12,240
Speaker 1: and that will be coming up next month, so stay

973
00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:15,960
Speaker 1: tuned to that, as well as the fantasy Extravaganza with

974
00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:20,840
Speaker 1: West Gregg and Fantasy football outsider Mark Sessler. Uh. Yeah,

975
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:23,520
Speaker 1: one nugget on Altar on Verner, don't forget that he

976
00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:26,600
Speaker 1: made a big one of the big reasons he went

977
00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:28,640
Speaker 1: to Tampa Bay was he thought that Tampa Bay had

978
00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:33,360
Speaker 1: a fascinating cultural scene. But part of enjoying the cultural

979
00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:35,879
Speaker 1: scene in Tampa Bay is producing for the bucks. I think,

980
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:37,560
Speaker 1: let's get it done. It was even better because I

981
00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:40,520
Speaker 1: think he was choosing between the Giants in New York

982
00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:43,880
Speaker 1: uh and uh, the Bucks of Tampa. I mean, I

983
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:46,720
Speaker 1: got out with the cultural center of the universe, Tampa.

984
00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:49,719
Speaker 1: Running Backs on the edge just you know, starts get

985
00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:52,759
Speaker 1: a little beefy here, uh right's list when we get

986
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:55,080
Speaker 1: to mean, what does that even mean? It just gets

987
00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:58,120
Speaker 1: a little chunky running backs on the edge. Le Garrett Blunt,

988
00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:03,680
Speaker 1: Ronnie Hillman, Bishops sank he Trey Mason and Andre Williams

989
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:07,040
Speaker 1: that that had to hurt to have a couple of

990
00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:12,800
Speaker 1: your darlings, which the boy. But you know, Mason is

991
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:15,440
Speaker 1: part of the most exciting backfield in the NFL, according

992
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:18,000
Speaker 1: to you, Well, he was excited. He's had too much

993
00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:20,800
Speaker 1: excitement off the field, and that's that's his biggest problem

994
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:23,719
Speaker 1: so far. I guess I say chunky because like, is

995
00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:27,320
Speaker 1: there a world where Trey Mason and Andre Williams deserve blurbs?

996
00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:28,680
Speaker 1: I don't know. I guess there is. I mean, i'd

997
00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:31,600
Speaker 1: go with informative. People want to know. People want to

998
00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:33,759
Speaker 1: know information. It's a football site. It makes sense, Yeah,

999
00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:35,959
Speaker 1: they like it. I would want to know. Trey Mason

1000
00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:40,040
Speaker 1: was a very promising rookie. His dad was a member

1001
00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:43,560
Speaker 1: of one of the greatest rap groups ever. He should

1002
00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:47,880
Speaker 1: be featured you're dispensing information. Andre Williams, he was a

1003
00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:50,440
Speaker 1: summer darling last year. If I recall a couple of

1004
00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:52,440
Speaker 1: a couple of year years ago, well, he was like

1005
00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:54,600
Speaker 1: the their goal line back. A couple of years ago.

1006
00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:56,680
Speaker 1: We figured out he can't do anything but run in

1007
00:51:56,680 --> 00:51:58,600
Speaker 1: a straight To me, he feels like, you know, they

1008
00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:01,240
Speaker 1: didn't do anything to the co cheen staff except removed

1009
00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:03,640
Speaker 1: Tom Coughlin. They didn't really do much to this running

1010
00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:06,839
Speaker 1: back group, even though it's very underwhelming. But now they'll

1011
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:10,919
Speaker 1: probably remove Tom Coughlin's boy from BC. Andre Williams, And

1012
00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:15,840
Speaker 1: this is straight from uh the Boss's copy La Garrett Blunt.

1013
00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:19,120
Speaker 1: The Patriots annually released a big veteran name or three.

1014
00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:21,319
Speaker 1: That's kind of what they do. You people see come

1015
00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:24,439
Speaker 1: and keep an eye on Blount or Blunt who wasn't

1016
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:27,160
Speaker 1: resigned to the team until April and wasn't healthy healthy

1017
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:30,400
Speaker 1: this offseason. That makes sense to me. Finally, the last

1018
00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:33,360
Speaker 1: six pack sounds like a horror movie for an alcoholic.

1019
00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:39,759
Speaker 1: All right, Less, that was a banger less gaming on

1020
00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:41,319
Speaker 1: his off days, ready to go home, but he had

1021
00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:45,520
Speaker 1: one last bullet in the chamber. It sounds like Cessler

1022
00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:48,160
Speaker 1: on a Sunday once he's had his six days off. Alright,

1023
00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:53,440
Speaker 1: this is a public show, greg people are listening, Bryce Petty,

1024
00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:57,359
Speaker 1: and let's stop right there. Bryce Patty. By the way,

1025
00:52:57,560 --> 00:52:59,160
Speaker 1: you just didn't want to put Gino Smith on this

1026
00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:00,799
Speaker 1: list because he's your boy. Boy. You don't like to

1027
00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:04,800
Speaker 1: kill your babies. There is a chance Geno Smith gets cut.

1028
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:08,799
Speaker 1: Uh if and when Ryan's Fitzpatrick gets signed by the Jets,

1029
00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:12,360
Speaker 1: because you know who my sources for Geno Smith not

1030
00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:15,400
Speaker 1: getting cut. How about the New York Jets, because when

1031
00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:20,560
Speaker 1: they send out a tweet yesterday Sunday, seven Sundays away,

1032
00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:24,120
Speaker 1: hashtag jet up, Let's get ready for the season. Who

1033
00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:27,160
Speaker 1: does the tweet have a big photo of Gina they're

1034
00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:31,279
Speaker 1: starting quarterback. That's just some millennial running their social media accounts.

1035
00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:35,120
Speaker 1: That's not inside information. West's theory is great. The other

1036
00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:38,000
Speaker 1: theory is that this is another bargaining tactic. Hey, Fits,

1037
00:53:38,080 --> 00:53:41,040
Speaker 1: check out, check out our Twitter were moving on boy.

1038
00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:44,600
Speaker 1: So you know it's basically it's just a mirror on

1039
00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:46,480
Speaker 1: That tweet is just a mirror on a team that

1040
00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:49,520
Speaker 1: is in total care. Here's the thing. Even if Ryan

1041
00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:53,320
Speaker 1: Fitzpatrick signs Geno Smith is by far the second best

1042
00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:56,680
Speaker 1: quarterback on that team. It's not that close, and he

1043
00:53:56,719 --> 00:53:59,320
Speaker 1: doesn't cost that much money. Why would they be cutting

1044
00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:02,120
Speaker 1: their second quarterback they're gonna want to back up another

1045
00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:04,040
Speaker 1: opposite well, or if they're a team that only wants

1046
00:54:04,120 --> 00:54:07,440
Speaker 1: two quarterbacks. I mean, Bryce Petty is a logical, chopping block,

1047
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:10,759
Speaker 1: subject matter person. He he's the key to it. Uh

1048
00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:14,080
Speaker 1: So I get why he's there, Like, but we need

1049
00:54:14,160 --> 00:54:18,280
Speaker 1: to know how much the the organization believes that Petty

1050
00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:21,040
Speaker 1: can be developed. You know, if you cut ties with

1051
00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:24,520
Speaker 1: Bryce Petty, you are giving up on a fourth round

1052
00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:26,279
Speaker 1: pick last year that never took a snap. Well, you

1053
00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:28,800
Speaker 1: went out and drafted Christian Hackenburg. I think that's pretty

1054
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:31,000
Speaker 1: damning for Bryce Petty. Well, plus he could go, he

1055
00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:33,120
Speaker 1: could make it through to the practice squad. Maybe no

1056
00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:35,600
Speaker 1: one will claim him. He's a fourth round pick. I'm

1057
00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:37,879
Speaker 1: sure there's been lots of fourth round picks cut from

1058
00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:40,239
Speaker 1: that draft already. It's they don't make headline news because

1059
00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:43,160
Speaker 1: they're not quarterbacks. But it happens, right, So we'll see,

1060
00:54:43,239 --> 00:54:46,040
Speaker 1: Greg the legs are line also on your list? As

1061
00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:50,080
Speaker 1: are getting that one? Well, he's been like a sixty

1062
00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:52,840
Speaker 1: five percent conversion, right, last year, So that kind of

1063
00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:59,960
Speaker 1: makes sense. Charles Johnson, that is come Bessler's boy. I

1064
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:02,400
Speaker 1: take it as a shot. So why why is Charles

1065
00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:04,680
Speaker 1: Johnson deserved to be on the team after what we

1066
00:55:04,719 --> 00:55:08,319
Speaker 1: saw last year? Mark, Well, no, he did not. First

1067
00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:10,279
Speaker 1: of all, every once in a while, you're doing making

1068
00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:12,760
Speaker 1: the lead piece and the player almost takes it personally

1069
00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:14,880
Speaker 1: and underperformance to stick it at you. And that's what

1070
00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:17,560
Speaker 1: Charles Johnson did. And I you'll listen to you the

1071
00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:20,920
Speaker 1: famous Gerhard incident of that. Check out this line under

1072
00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:23,960
Speaker 1: Charles Johnson, learning special teams as an NFL player is

1073
00:55:24,040 --> 00:55:27,320
Speaker 1: like learning computer science in nineteen ninety four. I'm not

1074
00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:31,000
Speaker 1: even it's a banger from Greg. I think Greig is

1075
00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:33,000
Speaker 1: not in the wrong here. I mean he's hed he

1076
00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:36,279
Speaker 1: disappointed last season they drafted Lakwan Treadwell in the first round.

1077
00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:38,960
Speaker 1: You've got Stefon Diggs. I mean he's not a one

1078
00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:42,000
Speaker 1: or two guy there, well right now he is, but

1079
00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:45,120
Speaker 1: my like first one, this very moment, he's ahead of

1080
00:55:45,120 --> 00:55:48,279
Speaker 1: Treadwell because he's a veteran. Well that is, if he

1081
00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:50,799
Speaker 1: lose the starting job. How is Charles Johnson not a

1082
00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:52,760
Speaker 1: special teams player? By the way, you got you gotta

1083
00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:55,240
Speaker 1: you gotta get good at special teams unless years, unless

1084
00:55:55,320 --> 00:55:57,640
Speaker 1: year a star, I was, your job'll be off the team.

1085
00:55:57,680 --> 00:55:59,600
Speaker 1: Well it could be great though, because I was annoyed

1086
00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:02,520
Speaker 1: that the Vikings snatched when Norv Turner went to Minnesota,

1087
00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:06,600
Speaker 1: snatched Charles Johnson off the Browns. Odds, the Browns are

1088
00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:09,120
Speaker 1: done with the Packers. But now you get Josh Gordon back.

1089
00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:11,960
Speaker 1: If the Vikings go forward with Greg's advice and cut,

1090
00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:14,960
Speaker 1: you get Charles john None of this is my advice.

1091
00:56:15,080 --> 00:56:17,960
Speaker 1: It's a preview of training camp with some players to watch.

1092
00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:20,600
Speaker 1: Get to get those two thousand and thirteen Browns, get

1093
00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:23,000
Speaker 1: the band back together, you know, go six and ten,

1094
00:56:23,160 --> 00:56:26,839
Speaker 1: have a good year. Uh, Justin Hunter on this list,

1095
00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:29,000
Speaker 1: I can't I can't fathom a scenario where we talked

1096
00:56:29,000 --> 00:56:31,799
Speaker 1: about this guy. But does anybody have anything Harry. These

1097
00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:33,920
Speaker 1: guys had making the lead peace about him where they

1098
00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:35,920
Speaker 1: had sort of a he said, he said, oh yeah,

1099
00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:39,160
Speaker 1: Greg and I disagreed violently on Justin Hunter. Who is right?

1100
00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:42,000
Speaker 1: I was? I said, he can't catch a pass if

1101
00:56:42,040 --> 00:56:45,359
Speaker 1: anybody breathes on him. Yeah, Well I came up with

1102
00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:47,920
Speaker 1: something to say here. They they have an interesting slot.

1103
00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:52,400
Speaker 1: They have the one toolsy guy who drives them absolutely crazy.

1104
00:56:52,680 --> 00:56:55,160
Speaker 1: At a time. It was once Kenny Britt. He was

1105
00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:57,640
Speaker 1: replaced by Justin Hunter, who has now been replaced by

1106
00:56:57,680 --> 00:57:00,480
Speaker 1: Dorio Greenbeckham, so that means Hunter's gone. That's excellent. And

1107
00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:04,280
Speaker 1: now Boss Aaron Dobson, who had a nice rookie scene

1108
00:57:04,600 --> 00:57:08,480
Speaker 1: with the Pats a few years back. He's been the

1109
00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:12,279
Speaker 1: target of quote too many incomplete deep throws. Uh, you know,

1110
00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:14,880
Speaker 1: don't look at the agent quarterback there. And then finally

1111
00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:17,640
Speaker 1: Margus unts. Yeah, the guy who almost won the m

1112
00:57:17,680 --> 00:57:20,840
Speaker 1: v P. Let's not a deep all expert at this stage.

1113
00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:24,760
Speaker 1: Margus Hunt Uh, a hard knocks star from his Estonia

1114
00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:29,360
Speaker 1: with a killer Drago impression. Always was big and strong

1115
00:57:29,920 --> 00:57:32,800
Speaker 1: and quick, but he's never never put it all together.

1116
00:57:32,840 --> 00:57:35,080
Speaker 1: And Greg says, hey, that might mean the end of

1117
00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:37,160
Speaker 1: the road for you, buddy. Back to Estonia you go.

1118
00:57:37,400 --> 00:57:39,120
Speaker 1: I hope I'm wrong with that one. He was a

1119
00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:42,200
Speaker 1: likable he was a likable guy. I'm looking at my

1120
00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:45,400
Speaker 1: tour feed here and that your article just got a

1121
00:57:45,480 --> 00:57:48,920
Speaker 1: like from Honey Badger. But I think you're gonna get

1122
00:57:48,920 --> 00:57:51,040
Speaker 1: some angry tweets from other players seeing their name on

1123
00:57:51,040 --> 00:57:53,000
Speaker 1: this list. You've kind of gone right at them, or

1124
00:57:53,040 --> 00:57:56,160
Speaker 1: just not even anger, just hurt. Hurt. You're telling me,

1125
00:57:56,360 --> 00:57:58,680
Speaker 1: you're telling me that my career could be over. Basically

1126
00:57:58,840 --> 00:58:01,840
Speaker 1: your advising teams what to do. I'm not doing any

1127
00:58:01,880 --> 00:58:04,480
Speaker 1: of those things. Hey, you're a fan of the football

1128
00:58:05,240 --> 00:58:10,440
Speaker 1: interest any preview of cuts, that's fine. You're saying from

1129
00:58:10,440 --> 00:58:13,440
Speaker 1: a very cold, robot robotic angle there. But there's a

1130
00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:15,880
Speaker 1: human element to what you've done. Yeah. Greg just hides

1131
00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:19,000
Speaker 1: behind his keyboard the first the first thing of cruizes,

1132
00:58:19,040 --> 00:58:21,760
Speaker 1: saying how much, how much everyone likes him. Everyone's rooting

1133
00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:24,840
Speaker 1: for Victor Cruz. But sometimes the facts, you know, the

1134
00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:27,439
Speaker 1: rubber meets the road. Uh. So you can read all

1135
00:58:27,520 --> 00:58:34,280
Speaker 1: this at NFL dot com. Uh slash bubble bangers. That's

1136
00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:37,000
Speaker 1: type that see where that takes you. I don't think

1137
00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:38,680
Speaker 1: you don't do it at work. I don't think it

1138
00:58:38,680 --> 00:58:40,720
Speaker 1: has a special one. But you can go slash Rosenthal

1139
00:58:40,760 --> 00:58:43,680
Speaker 1: if you want. Oh yeah, NFL com slash Rosenthal to

1140
00:58:43,720 --> 00:58:45,560
Speaker 1: see not just that but all of Greg's work. Now

1141
00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:49,200
Speaker 1: they stepped away from the managerial role to focus on

1142
00:58:49,320 --> 00:58:52,400
Speaker 1: his writing and performing in front of a camera. Will

1143
00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:54,720
Speaker 1: now be able to use that that U R l

1144
00:58:54,800 --> 00:58:56,400
Speaker 1: A is a guide, is he? Actually? Yeah? I mean

1145
00:58:56,480 --> 00:58:59,040
Speaker 1: sort of a fireball. At this point, we should change

1146
00:58:59,040 --> 00:59:02,040
Speaker 1: at the NFL dot com slash Gregg's Bangers instead of

1147
00:59:02,120 --> 00:59:04,680
Speaker 1: Rosen Thing. I like that. All right, that's it for

1148
00:59:04,720 --> 00:59:09,160
Speaker 1: Monday's show. We will be back um on Wednesday, uh

1149
00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:13,080
Speaker 1: with another show and then another show on Thursday after that.

1150
00:59:13,120 --> 00:59:15,840
Speaker 1: So yeah, we're back, just like all the players are

1151
00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:17,720
Speaker 1: back and the teams are back and preparing for a

1152
00:59:17,720 --> 00:59:23,880
Speaker 1: new season, as are we. So with that, congratulations once

1153
00:59:23,920 --> 00:59:26,920
Speaker 1: again to the two thousand sixteen l A C plus

1154
00:59:26,960 --> 00:59:31,760
Speaker 1: City champion, the Shield. Uh and until Wednesday. This is

1155
00:59:31,840 --> 00:59:38,200
Speaker 1: Dan Jansas signing off for the Quiet Storm the Mailman.

1156
00:59:39,240 --> 00:59:41,680
Speaker 1: I love sharing a team with us. It's been a

1157
00:59:41,680 --> 00:59:44,520
Speaker 1: great season. Queen does not mind the song being played

1158
00:59:44,520 --> 00:59:47,240
Speaker 1: in relationship with now No No And of course the

1159
00:59:47,280 --> 00:59:50,480
Speaker 1: Boss Emeritus and the Irishman behind the glass. What a

1160
00:59:50,680 --> 01:00:14,360
Speaker 1: stud of the Irishman was huh? Until what's day, Julie Chaps,

1161
01:00:22,760 --> 01:00:37,480
Speaker 1: we are the word Mark. You want to join us?

1162
01:00:37,640 --> 01:00:41,120
Speaker 1: We want to join the podcast? Hey, how Mark? We

1163
01:00:41,160 --> 01:00:46,640
Speaker 1: get a podcast going here? McFly Hello, we got ninety

1164
01:00:46,640 --> 01:00:48,520
Speaker 1: more minutes to solve this problem and get the show

1165
01:00:48,560 --> 01:00:50,760
Speaker 1: done ninety more minutes