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Speaker 1: the small things that matter. This is one of our
Speaker 1: favorite times of the week, our listener mail segment where
Speaker 1: we get to hear directly from you know. We've got
Speaker 1: a bunch of wild stuff here today. And uh, you
Speaker 1: and I, You and I we're talking. We're thinking maybe
Speaker 1: we uh we we jump right into a voicemail, right,
Speaker 1: I think so?
Speaker 2: As you know, Matt uh in his absence, remains the
Speaker 2: keeper of the voicemail vault, and so it's almost like
Speaker 2: he's here. Let's let's here one let's hear.
Speaker 1: One all right, So we are going to play one
Speaker 1: from a fellow conspiracy realist going by Duke Nukem. Ooh
Speaker 1: nice raf, Duke Nukem.
Speaker 2: Here we go.
Speaker 3: Hey guys, longtime listener, first time caller. UH, you can
Speaker 3: call me Duke Newcombe. So I am a previous Air
Speaker 3: Force officer. I worked in UH Nuclear Missile Control and
Speaker 3: Command Command. I was technically an ICBM launch officer UH,
Speaker 3: specifically the minimum three missile. So I was the one
Speaker 3: underground sifty five feet under and we were there behind
Speaker 3: a sixty five ton blast door for about twenty four
Speaker 3: to seventy two hours at a time. I wanted you
Speaker 3: guys to think about what it was like for us
Speaker 3: underground there, because it wasn't just checklist and procedure. But
Speaker 3: there were a lot of stories about supernatural activity that
Speaker 3: happened in a lot of our missile alert facilities or
Speaker 3: capsules that we hung out in, and things got super weird.
Speaker 3: And I did it for about five years, and this
Speaker 3: is where it gets crazy. I actually had some experiences
Speaker 3: underground of things that I couldn't explain. Wasn't sure if
Speaker 3: you guys have heard about this, but a lot of
Speaker 3: these missile silos, these alert facilities were built and they
Speaker 3: found Indian burial grounds that might contribute to some of
Speaker 3: the weird things that happened. But specifically, I was on
Speaker 3: alert one morning, just up by myself, and there was
Speaker 3: a huge Our entire capsule got knocked and we were
Speaker 3: swinging because we're on springs to just in case there
Speaker 3: was like a nuclear war, we would be able to
Speaker 3: do our job. But out of nowhere, our entire capsule
Speaker 3: got hit. I investigated and we were swinging and there
Speaker 3: was nothing there. There was another story of a missileer
Speaker 3: looking across into the launch control equipment building which is
Speaker 3: outside of the blast door, which is where our diesel
Speaker 3: generation comes from, and they saw a little girl that
Speaker 3: threw a ball at them and then disappeared. So I'm
Speaker 3: not sure if you guys are interested in like explore this,
Speaker 3: but I know there's been some supernatural activity that has
Speaker 3: been reported by missile ears that might just that might
Speaker 3: be ghost but also actually terrestrial activity with the nuclear
Speaker 3: sites and some nuclear launch facilities going offline. But I
Speaker 3: just wanted to give you guys a heads up that
Speaker 3: that's actually a thing in our community. I am no
Speaker 3: longer in the Air Force anymore. But this is something
Speaker 3: that stuck.
Speaker 1: With me, and that was Duke nukeom with a bevy
Speaker 1: of things that deserve further digging. I'm doing a underground
Speaker 1: missile sil of joke.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it's true. Matt pointed out to in the
Speaker 2: notes when he left this this one that there's there's
Speaker 2: the inklings of quite a few other stories there that
Speaker 2: would probably be worth giving giving Duke a call back.
Speaker 2: But Ben, you know, I was thinking about to just
Speaker 2: being that deep underground, it can be cause in and
Speaker 2: of itself for some kind of auditory hallucinations. Now I'm
Speaker 2: not again, I'm not saying that these I'm not chalking
Speaker 2: these up to entirely to hallucinations. But I was actually
Speaker 2: just watching a TV series called Murder at the End
Speaker 2: of the World, which is pretty good. Britt Britt Marling,
Speaker 2: who's made some films that really enjoyed, like Another Earth
Speaker 2: and one called Sound of My Voice and another one
Speaker 2: about eco terrorist that I'm forgetting the name of. But anyway,
Speaker 2: there's a part where there's like this very very wealthy
Speaker 2: character who has an underground bunker, and he points out
Speaker 2: that being deep enough underground to escape the seepage of
Speaker 2: fallout would require being so far down, like around fifty
Speaker 2: feet or more, that you would have no access to
Speaker 2: natural sunlight, and being down there for long enough that
Speaker 2: can actually play tricks on the mind because being a
Speaker 2: you know, species who has evolved in the presence of
Speaker 2: natural sunlight, you know, we kind of need the stuff.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: We can obviously supplement certain parts of it away in
Speaker 2: terms of kinds of nutrients that we need and all
Speaker 2: of that. But there's something to it. You know, if
Speaker 2: we hear about people getting seasonal effective disorder and eating
Speaker 2: certain special lights. But had you thought about that at all,
Speaker 2: about what maybe living underground like that, are being exposed
Speaker 2: to long periods underground like that might do to the mind.
Speaker 1: Sure, yeah, and this is I think one of the
Speaker 1: first things we should say is, Doke, thank you for
Speaker 1: doing your part to keep the world safe. Absolutely, the
Speaker 1: US doesn't hear a lot about this profession. Dare I
Speaker 1: say vocation? However, it is mission critical and you raise
Speaker 1: something that I was thinking about as well there noel,
Speaker 1: which is when someone is underground for an extended amount
Speaker 1: of time, it doesn't have to be like a fallout
Speaker 1: level extended amount of time. But when you are underground,
Speaker 1: you are going to be exposed to some degree to
Speaker 1: things that humans still don't quite understan stand. One example
Speaker 1: would be plate tectonics. I'm wondering whether the in terms
Speaker 1: of auditory experience, I'm wondering whether the frequencies of sound
Speaker 1: from the Earth's tembleaures and it's, you know, the lovely
Speaker 1: little farts of this crust of the planet we call
Speaker 1: I'm wondering if they could do something that that would
Speaker 1: be difficult to explain, especially when you have a firsthand
Speaker 1: sensory experience. Now, as for the paranormal stuff, that's a
Speaker 1: whole different bag of badgers, right, Like, I don't know,
Speaker 1: Like oftentimes when we hear these stories or these experiences
Speaker 1: of someone who says I was on duty I saw
Speaker 1: something I cannot explain, that's often one person seeing it.
Speaker 1: But it sounds like it sounds like Duke is telling
Speaker 1: us that he had a report of multiple people seeing
Speaker 1: this little girl who threw the ball.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, you know, I don't know, man. It's interesting
Speaker 2: as many times as we've covered stories of people reporting
Speaker 2: paranormal and I know it's not really necessarily our job
Speaker 2: to make it about us, or to say, you know,
Speaker 2: we think this is scientifically verifiable or whatever. That's really
Speaker 2: not the point of this show, but to feel like,
Speaker 2: at different times we've fallen on different sides of whether
Speaker 2: these kinds of things are factually possible or whether it's
Speaker 2: more of like a spiritual kind of experience, which can
Speaker 2: you know, hallucination is an experience, and I don't think
Speaker 2: it's necessarily one that is inherently without meaning or without value,
Speaker 2: you know, and people that are in a similar situation
Speaker 2: could be because of certain deprivations or certain the plate
Speaker 2: tectonics thing I think is fascinating be experiencing similar things.
Speaker 2: I don't know where I fall on, Like, you know,
Speaker 2: can you see a ghost? Can you see the remnants
Speaker 2: of the past. We've talked about these kinds of things,
Speaker 2: and it's always something that I'm always right up against
Speaker 2: the edge of, and I just I don't know, and
Speaker 2: I haven't experience it like that, So it's not for
Speaker 2: me to say I would say that in a place
Speaker 2: like this, and in time of war, I could surely
Speaker 2: imagine some pretty crazy energies lingering around and facilities such
Speaker 2: as this.
Speaker 1: It also makes me wonder. It makes me wonder about
Speaker 1: the UFO sightings near missile facilities. Right since the nineteen forties,
Speaker 1: there have been multiple reports of silos being stalked, for
Speaker 1: lack of a better word, being surveilled by some sort
Speaker 1: of inexplicable craft or phenomena entity. Sure, and this I
Speaker 1: think goes into one of the larger issues, and this
Speaker 1: ties in with the paranormal stuff too, Duke, which is
Speaker 1: that people who are working at this level, in this
Speaker 1: rarefied air expertise, are often very concerned about reporting what
Speaker 1: they have seen up the command chain because it may
Speaker 1: compromise your career. In a situation where you need to
Speaker 1: be a stallwart, one hundred percent dependable person functioning in
Speaker 1: your role, than anything that makes you look like you
Speaker 1: might not be one hundred percent dependable can be really damaging.
Speaker 1: So it's not a surprise I would say that there
Speaker 1: is not more official reporting on this. There's a lot
Speaker 1: of people talking to each other in communities to get
Speaker 1: together with your veteran buddies, things like that. We want
Speaker 1: to bring those stories to the world and we will
Speaker 1: do our best to protect your anonymity as well.
Speaker 2: Hey, collectively, we've all been very encouraged by some of
Speaker 2: the disclosure stuff, you know, as underwhelming as maybe some
Speaker 2: of the reports have been, just the fact that it
Speaker 2: gives an out an outlet to people and a validation
Speaker 2: to folks you know, have these kinds of stories. And again,
Speaker 2: what disclosure is more specifically referring to, like I guess, extraterrestrial,
Speaker 2: you know, types of experiences, But to me, I feel
Speaker 2: like they may as well be two sides of the
Speaker 2: same coin. I think that's a really good point Ben
Speaker 2: the whole sightings near missile silos and all of that, though,
Speaker 2: I do think that's a very valid thing to bring up,
Speaker 2: and you know, with Matt being sort of the keeper
Speaker 2: of the voicemail vault and doing such a bang up
Speaker 2: job as always, I think the two of us are
Speaker 2: definitely made a bit of a New Year's pledge to
Speaker 2: give some calls back ourselves, and who knows, maybe it
Speaker 2: could even evolve into another type of segment moving forward.
Speaker 2: But Duke, I think this is a really great story
Speaker 2: and I'm really anxious to hear.
Speaker 1: More, and I would love to hear more from other
Speaker 1: people who've had similar experiences. Please let us know, give
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Speaker 2: Yes, you and in this case you is one of
Speaker 2: my favorite nicknames in recent memory. Fox Sillion Fastfoot. I'm
Speaker 2: a big fan of alliteration, Ben, how about you? He
Speaker 2: like a good alliterative turn of phrase?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I am actively a fan of alliteration.
Speaker 2: No, you did it anyone an a which isn't even
Speaker 2: an easy one to pull off. Well done, sir. Okay,
Speaker 2: we'll just jump right into it. Hey, Ben, Matt and
Speaker 2: Noel call me good to say it again, Fox sillyon
Speaker 2: fast Foot. That is my D and D character name,
Speaker 2: Of course it is. Ben, you've got some what's your
Speaker 2: Do you have a character name for your D D,
Speaker 2: D and D or do you just go with with
Speaker 2: your your own name?
Speaker 1: Oh? Several several? Okay, yeah, what about you? You got
Speaker 1: you got a D and D name.
Speaker 2: I don't play D and D because I just haven't
Speaker 2: had the opportunity, but I really want to maybe you
Speaker 2: know what, I'm gonna make a resolution right here and
Speaker 2: now to try to play a real D and D game.
Speaker 2: But my character's name in Skyritrim is Grendel, like the
Speaker 2: like the monster in Beowulf. You know, I just think
Speaker 2: it's I always thought that was a cool, cool sounding name.
Speaker 2: But I don't have a last name. It should be
Speaker 2: should be like Grendel, Dad, dadfly or something like that,
Speaker 2: you know, if we're going with the alliteration thing. In
Speaker 2: any case, D and D character names are awesome. Uh.
Speaker 2: Continuing with the letter, your recent discussion about various goods
Speaker 2: like Swedish fish and mountain dew being smuggled in the
Speaker 2: UK the circumvent laws regarding the safety of certain chemicals.
Speaker 2: It got me thinking about the inverse over protecting people
Speaker 2: from helpful products because a chemical has not been proven safe.
Speaker 2: I can give us personal and timely anecdote to this.
Speaker 2: Last month, I went on a tour of the British
Speaker 2: Isles and was just getting over a cold when I
Speaker 2: arrived in London to begin the tour. I assumed that
Speaker 2: if the symptoms came back, I could just go to
Speaker 2: a chemist British for Pharmacy, thank you, and pick up
Speaker 2: the equivalent of mucinex Nike will Airborne, et cetera. My
Speaker 2: symptoms came back and I went to find some medicine.
Speaker 2: To my surprise, all I could find on the shelves
Speaker 2: was their version of thilan all which is is it
Speaker 2: called paracetamol? I on'tly remember that, because there's a joke
Speaker 2: like about where all the tailo is in the jungle,
Speaker 2: go the parents eat them all. It may be a
Speaker 2: different drug, but I do know that is a British
Speaker 2: equivalent of like a.
Speaker 1: Painkiller or just a set of menafit right.
Speaker 2: I think that's right, But again I don't even know
Speaker 2: what the deal is behind that, because I've certainly never
Speaker 2: heard of paracetamol over here, so I don't know anyway
Speaker 2: be worth looking into further. But going on, I did
Speaker 2: a Google search to see if dextro meth orphan, the
Speaker 2: active ingredient in many decongestins, was legal in the UK,
Speaker 2: and it said it was. Perhaps those medicines were behind
Speaker 2: the shelf, but I did not see them when I
Speaker 2: looked for what it's worth in proof that I know
Speaker 2: what medication I need to treat which cold symptom. Once
Speaker 2: I return to the States and in the airport, purchased
Speaker 2: some use next my symptoms were gone within the next day.
Speaker 1: Oh, it is a paracetabole, by the way.
Speaker 2: Got it?
Speaker 1: Got it.
Speaker 2: While I cannot definitively say that every compound in common
Speaker 2: cold medicines is safe, I can say that I have
Speaker 2: never had a negative reaction to any such medication, provided
Speaker 2: I don't overdo it. It does feel like the UK
Speaker 2: government is doing a disservice to their population by keeping
Speaker 2: treatments that can help people recover faster out of fewer hands.
Speaker 2: I think this is one thing to discuss here. This
Speaker 2: is the next as a side note, something you all
Speaker 2: may find humorous. Right after travelers get through security at Heathrow,
Speaker 2: they walk through a giant duty free shop that is
Speaker 2: sectioned off into different areas cosmetics, gadgets, spirits, and of
Speaker 2: course candy. In the candy section, there is a display
Speaker 2: of Kinder eggs. As you all know, Kinder eggs or
Speaker 2: this is me it's very least the kind that we're
Speaker 2: talking about here. The brand exists here, but not these
Speaker 2: European kinds are illegal in the United States. Because they
Speaker 2: the eggs contain a non nutritive object in the form
Speaker 2: of the toy inside. If the United Kingdom wants to
Speaker 2: yell about people smuggling mountain dew into their country to
Speaker 2: their country, perhaps they should do something about people smuggling
Speaker 2: kinder eggs out of their country. What's fair is fair? Right?
Speaker 2: I think this is so cool? Do you mind Ben
Speaker 2: if we start with the what's the deal with like
Speaker 2: looking into the efficacy of drugs and like how different
Speaker 2: countries are going to have different processes and whether or
Speaker 2: not the fact that we have all of this available
Speaker 2: over here is always in fact good or is there
Speaker 2: like a middle ground. I'm just fascinated to day to
Speaker 2: hear what you have to say.
Speaker 1: Sure, yeah, First I'd like to say I've had that
Speaker 1: same experience Fox Silian. By the way, Fox Sillion is
Speaker 1: a entity of many names, and it's always good to
Speaker 1: hear from them. I've had that same experience in Heathrow
Speaker 1: multiple times. We'll get to that in a second. The
Speaker 1: idea of how over the counter drugs or substances are
Speaker 1: treated country to country is incredibly fascinating. For example, if
Speaker 1: you are in a lot of places in Europe, on
Speaker 1: the continent of Europe and then also in the UK
Speaker 1: as well. A lot of things that you might need
Speaker 1: a prescription for here in the States you do not
Speaker 1: need a prescription for in those other countries, right, And
Speaker 1: also the pharmacies. The pharmacies here in the States are
Speaker 1: usually pretty shocking to folks from Europe because pharmacies here
Speaker 1: sell so much other stuff, you know, they sell like
Speaker 1: they're basically small grocery stores, and pharmacies in much of
Speaker 1: the rest of the world only sell these medicinal substances.
Speaker 1: You've had that experience as well, I believe.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, Like I think I first noticed it in Paris,
Speaker 2: where you know the appotaiko after they call it in Germany. Yeah,
Speaker 2: just the chemists or whatever. They're these green signs that
Speaker 2: almost look like you think they might be, like I
Speaker 2: think jokingly was like, is that a weed dispensary. Nope,
Speaker 2: they've been that way for ages. That's what they look like.
Speaker 2: And they only sell medication. And we went into one
Speaker 2: because we had to get COVID tests at that point
Speaker 2: in order to get a clearance to fly back. But yes,
Speaker 2: I did notice they don't sell you know, gummy candy
Speaker 2: or anything. Like that it is exclusively that particular genre
Speaker 2: of products, and a lot of it isn't over the
Speaker 2: counter at all.
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, that's correct. I mean I think also that
Speaker 1: goes into the larger conversation that you're having with us.
Speaker 1: I'll call you a doctor fast foot for D and
Speaker 1: D fast foot the idea of over protecting people from
Speaker 1: helpful products like being overly preventative. Right, There is validity
Speaker 1: to that argument.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: The question is, should a given regulatory body wait until
Speaker 1: there are decades long studies about intergenerational effects or effects
Speaker 1: over thirty years or so on before allowing or disallowing
Speaker 1: a substance into the market. That's a really good question.
Speaker 1: And in our previous conversation, the argument seems to be that,
Speaker 1: at least in the case of the United Kingdom, they
Speaker 1: are sort of airing on the side of caution, right
Speaker 1: and saying, hey, let's not have a situation like asbestos
Speaker 1: or lead not too long ago. And we see that,
Speaker 1: and that's definitely a stance to take. It does prevent
Speaker 1: possible legal nightmares down the road. But I gotta say
Speaker 1: something about the under egg, the kinder egg controversy with
Speaker 1: a k that is, look, man, a lot of times
Speaker 1: when you travel, especially if it's not a controlled substance
Speaker 1: like some kind of drug or whatever. A lot of
Speaker 1: times when you travel, your origin country or your origin
Speaker 1: place doesn't care what you take with you because it's
Speaker 1: not their responsibility. An example here in the United States
Speaker 1: would be flying from a city or from a state
Speaker 1: wherein something like cannabis is legal or decriminalized. They're not
Speaker 1: going to say, hey, are you flying to a place
Speaker 1: where this is still legal? They don't care.
Speaker 2: It's interesting. I've had this conversation with multiple folks, and
Speaker 2: particularly a friend of mine who's a lawyer, and he
Speaker 2: had a bit of a different view on it, because
Speaker 2: I guess his opinion was that when you're in the airport,
Speaker 2: you're kind of in a liminal space where like federal
Speaker 2: law applies more than state law, and more even than
Speaker 2: the law of like the state or the country that
Speaker 2: you're in, not cutting up the country. It's different in
Speaker 2: Europe obviously, because there'd be laws, you know, from country
Speaker 2: to country, jurisdiction the jurisdiction that's right, So like sure
Speaker 2: you wouldn't in theory if they've caught you with cannabis
Speaker 2: in like a place where it is federally illegal, they
Speaker 2: could the very least confiscated, but they probably wouldn't like
Speaker 2: send you to jail, and likely they would call the
Speaker 2: local law and then they would say, well, it's it's
Speaker 2: legally here. But it's great, super weird and gray. But
Speaker 2: the idea of this kinderregg smuggling really tickled me because
Speaker 2: it seems like such a silly small thing. But like
Speaker 2: over here, the kinderreggs we get there like a Ferrari
Speaker 2: rochet ball that you just kind of crack open and
Speaker 2: can dip a little cookie in. It's such a bait
Speaker 2: and switch, there's no it's it's packaging that looks like
Speaker 2: in a but you can get the thing. I always
Speaker 2: loved about those types of kinderreg where the white chocolate
Speaker 2: on the inside, darker chocolate on the outside. You can
Speaker 2: get that over here as a bar, but not as
Speaker 2: the actual egg containing per toy. Yeah. Do you know,
Speaker 2: ben if all non nutritive things have been outlawed? Or
Speaker 2: is that because I mean it used to be you'd
Speaker 2: have a toy in your cereal box that was just
Speaker 2: kind of floating free. Now it's like in all kinds
Speaker 2: of packaging because I guess they don't want to make
Speaker 2: sure nobody jokes on it. Such a funny little distinction.
Speaker 1: It's again, it's the idea of airing on the side
Speaker 1: of caution. You know, it takes It takes one unfortunate
Speaker 1: incident of a I'm gonna date myself here, of a
Speaker 1: of a toy just floating free in the bottom of
Speaker 1: a box of cracker jacks. It takes one person swallowing
Speaker 1: that for there to be an absolute hurricane of problems.
Speaker 1: And the kinder stuff, the real kinderreggs are yes, still
Speaker 1: technically illegal in the United States. But people smuggles stuff
Speaker 1: all the time. It's not always you know, drugs, it's
Speaker 1: not always it's not always the evil stuff. One of
Speaker 1: the biggest smuggled products for a long time on the
Speaker 1: US and Canadian border was actually toilets commos. Wow. When
Speaker 1: the low flush commode laws went into place, people on
Speaker 1: the northern side of the US started smuggling in these
Speaker 1: different uh, these different commodes. So there's there's a lot
Speaker 1: to unpack with this uh And I'm tempted to ask folks,
Speaker 1: what is your favorite non true crime smuggled thing, Like
Speaker 1: we we know if you have. If you have relatives
Speaker 1: who live in a different country, often you're asked to
Speaker 1: bring things, to bring things over when you come back home.
Speaker 1: One of the one of the funniest ones I learned
Speaker 1: about recently no, and this is not illegal, is Poyo Campero.
Speaker 1: You know, the fast food chicken joint.
Speaker 2: I've heard the name, but I don't think I'm familiar
Speaker 2: with what are they known for?
Speaker 1: Chicken? I used to I used to eat it one
Speaker 1: when I was living in Central America. They're quite popular
Speaker 1: in Guatemala, and it's become somewhat of a tradition for
Speaker 1: people flying to the US to bring Poyo compero with them,
Speaker 1: such that the fast food business itself started making these
Speaker 1: insulated bags to get carry it on the airport on
Speaker 1: the airplane without making it the hopefully smell of chicken.
Speaker 2: That's a good branding play. I do want to maybe
Speaker 2: close this one up with one question, and I think
Speaker 2: this maybe is where Fox Foxy Fox Sillion is going
Speaker 2: with this. Does it feel like we're hung up over
Speaker 2: here in the United States about a little plastic COI
Speaker 2: inside an egg because we're afraid of like liability lawsuits
Speaker 2: or whatever. But yet we green light a lot more
Speaker 2: kind of weird medications than the UK seemingly as willing
Speaker 2: to do. You know, We've got all these things like
Speaker 2: you know, these die be these drugs that are being
Speaker 2: prescribed off label to encourage weight loss, you know, like
Speaker 2: the Manjaross of the world and all of that stuff.
Speaker 2: And we are now hearing after these things have already
Speaker 2: been greenlit, that there are long term effects that are
Speaker 2: starting to begin to be understood that maybe we're not
Speaker 2: considered up front. So is it that, like, why are
Speaker 2: we so focused on like the little plastic toy that
Speaker 2: they don't care about over the UK, But yet we
Speaker 2: seem to be willing to let a lot more experimental
Speaker 2: kind of drugs flood the market than the UK is
Speaker 2: willing to do.
Speaker 1: And I'd like to hear, folks, especially if you've traveled
Speaker 1: outside of the US, I'd like to hear what things
Speaker 1: have you been able to purchase over the counter that
Speaker 1: require prescription here in the States and what is your
Speaker 1: opinion on that Is it safer? To your earlier question
Speaker 1: as well, well, it is it a matter of safety,
Speaker 1: is it a matter of preventive regulation, or is there
Speaker 1: something else in the mix.
Speaker 2: Are there?
Speaker 1: Ulterior motives are there? You know, are there back room
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Speaker 1: master's students and undergrads discuss prions or preons over years
Speaker 1: of study, I can give you a definitive answer on
Speaker 1: how to pronounce it. Doc, Can we get a drum
Speaker 1: roll please perfect not. Joe's cousin says it was more
Speaker 1: often said one way than the other, but often both
Speaker 1: were heard during any class, And there was one constant
Speaker 1: during all of these discussions. No one ever corrected how
Speaker 1: anyone else said it. No one ever even balked or
Speaker 1: batt a die. And hearing it first one way then
Speaker 1: the other, no eyebrows wherever raised. At two people discussing
Speaker 1: back and forth and both saying it different ways, it
Speaker 1: convinced me of three things. First, both ways to say
Speaker 1: it are correct. Second, cares which way you say it?
Speaker 1: And third, perhaps most controversial, I firmly believe many biologists
Speaker 1: are themselves unsure whether one way is correct and which
Speaker 1: that would be. For what it's worth, I say it
Speaker 1: the more commonly heard way from my undergrad and if
Speaker 1: you're wondering, I say it and here not Joe's cousins
Speaker 1: spelled out p R I N. So it's like a
Speaker 1: written joke, which I love. Oh yeah, always email us
Speaker 1: best way to content.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it is. This is very illuminative on a
Speaker 2: couple of levels, because this is a clearly very learned
Speaker 2: individual who is writing to us, speaking to the perspective
Speaker 2: of a very learned community who seem to be confused
Speaker 2: about the pronunciation of words just as much as everybody else.
Speaker 2: And I think it's it should be taken as a
Speaker 2: as a good thing. And also to what you always
Speaker 2: add to these types of questions when they come up
Speaker 2: in is that it is a living language. It's about
Speaker 2: usage more than it is necessarily about like hard and
Speaker 2: fast rules. But you know, sure there are technically correct
Speaker 2: pronunciations of things, but if one ends up rising to
Speaker 2: the top of the food chain, then I would say
Speaker 2: that one has just as much validity as the quote
Speaker 2: unquote correct one, because at the end of the day,
Speaker 2: like don't words just kind of come into being because
Speaker 2: people say them and use them and are functional.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the idea again of the of the living language,
Speaker 1: I mean, certain things have to be codified, right, we
Speaker 1: have to in certain spheres of communication. We have to
Speaker 1: know exactly what is being said and what that signifies
Speaker 1: or entails. But we're not always doing you know, like
Speaker 1: op second comms. You probably don't end most conversations with
Speaker 1: over and out right.
Speaker 2: It's fun maybe like it, oh especially just do a
Speaker 2: little like you know, like all that good stuff.
Speaker 1: But this is what This is something that I personally love.
Speaker 1: I think we all really enjoy it about this show.
Speaker 1: We have subject matter experts who write in and are
Speaker 1: always so cool. Thank you to the experts and aviation
Speaker 1: who have written in regarding various aspects of not just
Speaker 1: the show, but are like personal goals, how to get
Speaker 1: a pilot license and so on. Then thank you to
Speaker 1: like the many biologists, the many hunters who wrote in
Speaker 1: with some more on the ground experience about zombie deer
Speaker 1: phenomenon chronic wasting disease. I think we can dedicate an
Speaker 1: entire listener mail segment in a few weeks to the
Speaker 1: feedback we've gotten just on that story. What do you think? Oh?
Speaker 2: I hundred percent agree, ben So, since we're one short
Speaker 2: of a quorum today, I don't really know the real
Speaker 2: rules of parliamentary procedure, but I'm just using that to
Speaker 2: say that we miss you, Matt, and we'll see you
Speaker 2: when you get back. I thought we could maybe close
Speaker 2: out today's episode with some reviews that you up.
Speaker 3: I love that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I pitched it earlier. We had had also gone
Speaker 1: on Twitter or x or whatever it's called and asked
Speaker 1: for some reviews. We've done this a little bit on
Speaker 1: ridiculous history as well. Let's let's stick with the ones
Speaker 1: that made us laugh. So we asked, and you responded.
Speaker 1: We're just gonna give you some funny, some funny ones,
Speaker 1: and then some wholesome ones. Here's one good show, says
Speaker 1: Tims's fifty four. Excellent show. I see meathead ripe wingers
Speaker 1: don't like your show. They want you to tell them.
Speaker 1: QAnon is real and Tom Hanks drinks the blood of babies. No,
Speaker 1: five stars, that was nice.
Speaker 2: That was nice. I like that from Tims's fifty four.
Speaker 2: Next time we got Happy Holly, Holly, Holy Days, Hollydays.
Speaker 2: In lieu of presents, I'm leaving this five star review
Speaker 2: to validate that Ben is very good at doing the podcast.
Speaker 1: I did, I did, I did put my thought. I'm
Speaker 1: on the scale there a little bit on Twitter.
Speaker 2: I was fine with that.
Speaker 1: Many please hand that to us in lieu of a gift.
Speaker 2: The rest of us we got we're working on at
Speaker 2: Swst swest all. We'll get there. We'll get to Ben's
Speaker 2: level eventually. I'm kidding. We're a deep we do this
Speaker 2: all together. But that is really nice.
Speaker 1: This is a fun one. You might like well, h
Speaker 1: Office Claw review id r C eleven j Z nine
Speaker 1: says the good occasionally listen. Is this the best podcast?
Speaker 1: Three question marks? No? Is it a good podcast to
Speaker 1: listen to occasionally? One question mark? Yes, they covered some
Speaker 1: interested topics. Five stars.
Speaker 2: Wow. I love the official review ID. Didn't even have
Speaker 2: a name, it just has an official review ID. And then, oh,
Speaker 2: this is nice because I have these and this makes
Speaker 2: me very happy if you do on mind, Ben, this
Speaker 2: is my comfort show. I've been listening to this show
Speaker 2: since twenty fifteen, and now I can't go to sleep
Speaker 2: without it. I saw the negative reviews from angry weirdos,
Speaker 2: so I figured I owe them a positive review after
Speaker 2: for all these years, Ben, do you have a comfort show?
Speaker 1: I got a couple, sure, yeah, many. I work out
Speaker 1: to the Kubrick version of the Shining pretty often.
Speaker 2: That's weird. I love that so much better. You've told
Speaker 2: me that in the past. I just I'm glad that
Speaker 2: gets you, gets your gets your your blood flowing, like
Speaker 2: does it make your blood flow like out of a
Speaker 2: giant elevator down a hallway?
Speaker 1: It's yeah, there we go. I love it aalogy. It's
Speaker 1: kind of a similar, it's kind of Pavlovian right, we
Speaker 1: trade ourselves and and we want to also, by the way,
Speaker 1: thank everybody who has taken the time to write to us.
Speaker 1: Keep the reviews coming, we love reading them. Keep the
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Speaker 2: You know, it is so funny because we obviously have
Speaker 2: a wonderful community of folks who really value the show
Speaker 2: and write into us, and we just you know, we
Speaker 2: have enough to We do these listener mail things every
Speaker 2: week and have nothing but interesting, thoughtful feedback and stories
Speaker 2: and whatever. It just seems that there is a content
Speaker 2: engine of folks that like to communicate their hatred for
Speaker 2: us on the reviews but don't really engage with the show. So,
Speaker 2: you know, be the change you want to see. Folks,
Speaker 2: if you write to us for listener mail and you
Speaker 2: do like the show, help push some of these people
Speaker 2: down in the in the in the reviews because it
Speaker 2: hurts our feelings. I'm just kidding. It's really kind of
Speaker 2: hilarious to the point of the first reviewer. It's honestly,
Speaker 2: in many ways a badge of honor. It's just this
Speaker 2: space that we work in, you know, the conspiracy kind
Speaker 2: of theory space there there there is some toxicity and
Speaker 2: negativity within it, and we try to be the opposite
Speaker 2: of that, and I hope that's what makes us people's
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