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Speaker 1: am Chadmilman, Chief Content Officer of the Action Network. Tonight

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Speaker 1: is the tip off of the most anticipated w NBA

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Speaker 1: the voice of Cleitland Clark's Indiana Fever this season, Debbie Antonelli.

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Speaker 1: She will come on in one second, joining me for

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Speaker 2: Hello, Chad. Just the best time in sports, isn't it?

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Speaker 3: We have playoffs, we got women's coming back, we got

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Speaker 1: Sorry for the preamble, official welcome. Tell everybody where you

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Speaker 1: are right now and why Well.

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Speaker 4: First of all, thank you guys for having me on.

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Speaker 4: I'm excited to be with you and spent some time.

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Speaker 4: I'm in Las Vegas right now. I have the Phoenix

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Speaker 4: Vegas game tonight, which is a doubleheader. Caitlin Clark in

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Speaker 4: the back to back WNBA champions Las Vegas. A says

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Speaker 4: it's a big bling night the rings will be passed out,

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Speaker 4: the banners will be dropped. It would be a lot

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Speaker 2: All right.

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Speaker 1: So you've been doing WNBA since its inception. You had

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Speaker 1: a Hall of Fame career at NC State. You know,

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Speaker 1: basketball generally, women's basketball specifically, as well as anybody when

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Speaker 4: Well, I would use chaos and storm as positives in that. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: but chat, I mean, come on, man, it's about damn time.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I've been waiting a long time for this.

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Speaker 4: I have in different times in my career. You know,

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Speaker 4: I've served as a director of marketing and athletics at

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Speaker 1: Well, when you're looking at Caitlin Clark specifically, what do

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Speaker 4: Well, first of all, it's challenging for anyone because now

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Speaker 4: She stretches, traps, she got sized to see over the top.

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Speaker 4: She has a high IQ reading the second level, so

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Speaker 4: find the right play. That side of the ball doesn't

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Speaker 4: the physicality on that side. So defensively, when you say

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Speaker 4: She averaged less than seven points her first season, So

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Speaker 4: every rookie has an adjustment period, but no rookie has

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Speaker 4: so I think she will have to adjust defensively. That's

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Speaker 1: The challenges on defense people trying to defend her, people

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Speaker 1: don't mean that in a pejorative way. How much do

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Speaker 4: Well, first of all, let me say this about Caitlin,

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Speaker 4: I've got kids older than her, So she's a kid

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Speaker 4: growth of the league. That's what she's always done. That's

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Speaker 4: her habit. It's incredible the amount of incredible publicity she's

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Speaker 4: This is where the issues could be. This is what

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Speaker 4: I doubt it, but it could happen. And if it

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Speaker 4: So let's figure out how and why those things are happening.

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Speaker 4: If they do, I think she's managed all of what

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Speaker 4: as well as you could have ever imagined. So, yeah,

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Speaker 4: is there trash talking? Is there going to be some

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Speaker 4: they're going to do that. But wouldn't you do that

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Speaker 3: And I just piggybacking off of that. It's anyone that's

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Speaker 3: I mean, there's gonna be women that are gonna be

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Speaker 3: it's gonna be tough. She's never played against women that

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Speaker 2: So my question he was just you probably don't even

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Speaker 3: If the last thirty years you've been in women's basketball,

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Speaker 3: you've had diehard NBA fans, the other half of your

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Speaker 3: going to become a huge part of this whole Peyton

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Speaker 4: I have a huge smile on my face because let

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Speaker 4: strike a chord with me, Simon. That is exactly something

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Speaker 4: I love talking about. Now, I'm going to preface it

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Speaker 4: we're here in Vegas, I'm not gambling. My husband throws

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Speaker 2: I drink.

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Speaker 4: The drinks were perfectly fine. Right, But let me say this,

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Speaker 4: if you go back and look, this is my fifteenth

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Speaker 4: I was looking for this kind of disruption in our game,

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Speaker 4: and I wanted the Sweet sixteen to come to Vegas.

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Speaker 4: was a whole plan. You can read it in the

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Speaker 4: more so just that one piece of it from which

431
00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:34,679
Speaker 4: was an equal opportunity offense when I played a lot

432
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Speaker 4: of motion, a lot of screen off the ball, pass

433
00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:39,320
Speaker 4: and cut. We still have that in the game, but

434
00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:44,840
Speaker 4: we have more isolation, more two man game. Even the

435
00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:46,960
Speaker 4: stuff that I have a team, my high school team,

436
00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:49,439
Speaker 4: I'm teaching them two man side, clear it out. What

437
00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:51,160
Speaker 4: can we get on the two man side? How many

438
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Speaker 4: options do you have and what matchups can you put

439
00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:56,160
Speaker 4: in that? How can you isolate somebody? I think that's

440
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Speaker 4: where the game and the scouting part of it has grown.

441
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Speaker 4: And that's where to go back to Caitlin Clark. That's

442
00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:05,240
Speaker 4: somebody that has an incredibly high IQ. She can force

443
00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:08,960
Speaker 4: a mismatch in certain options in their offense, and when

444
00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:11,520
Speaker 4: she gets those mismatches, she can take advantage of it.

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Speaker 4: That's the part for me. Guys, for being around the

446
00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:15,960
Speaker 4: game so long that I've watched evolve. You know, players

447
00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:18,199
Speaker 4: that have always been good. Skill set's been good. I

448
00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:20,840
Speaker 4: think the best field goal percentage and the history of

449
00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:23,800
Speaker 4: women's college basketball was in the mid eighties when I

450
00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:27,720
Speaker 4: was playing. So the shoot the players were good. Everybody

451
00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:31,360
Speaker 4: could still shoot it. But the guy's game is very physical.

452
00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:33,959
Speaker 4: There's no freedom of movement. They like to think that

453
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Speaker 4: there is. It depends on if you like that style

454
00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:39,359
Speaker 4: of play in the playoffs. I do like it because

455
00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:42,200
Speaker 4: I don't like to hear as much whistle. But during

456
00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:46,679
Speaker 4: the regular season, especially in college men's game, you know,

457
00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:49,520
Speaker 4: they're the only sport right now that plays two halfs.

458
00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:53,280
Speaker 4: They don't play quarters. Everyone plays quarters. When the women

459
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Speaker 4: put the quarters in. Honestly, at first I thought it

460
00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:58,040
Speaker 4: was window dressing. I thought it was just a you know,

461
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Speaker 4: a disruptor or changed to look at the game in

462
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Speaker 4: a different way. But it does give you a little

463
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Speaker 4: more strategy more too. For ones, it feels like the

464
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Speaker 4: game's a little faster. I do miss the one in one.

465
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Speaker 4: I do think the women's college game. I'd like to

466
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Speaker 4: have that come back because I do think strategy at

467
00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:16,720
Speaker 4: the end of the game when you have two free

468
00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:18,440
Speaker 4: throws as much different than when you have it one

469
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Speaker 4: in one. So I don't know what the reason was

470
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Speaker 4: for taking that out. I still have never gotten a

471
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Speaker 4: good reason from the NCAA or the rules committee on that.

472
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Speaker 4: Something that I think FEEBO was doing, so they just

473
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Speaker 4: adapted it.

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Speaker 1: By the way, as you were talking, one of our

475
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Speaker 1: producers slacked a story from the La Times of you

476
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Speaker 1: pushing to have the Sweet sixteen in Vegas from like

477
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Speaker 1: a decade ago. Yes, kudos, kudos, thank.

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Speaker 4: You for looking that up. I'm sorry I didn't mention

479
00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:49,080
Speaker 4: the La Times. I should have mentioned it too. No,

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Speaker 4: that's all right, I wrote about it.

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Speaker 2: That's all right.

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Speaker 1: Set quick read here, Simon. Can you name the fastest

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Speaker 1: We've talked about how much people like to bet on

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Speaker 1: the WNBA. For any listeners interested in betting basketball, actually,

501
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Speaker 1: I feel like we're thirty years into the WNBA. The

506
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Speaker 1: game has evolved from players like Dawn Staley, who is

507
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Speaker 1: now a legendary coach at South Carolina, two players like

508
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Speaker 1: Caitlin Clark, from Sue Berd to Candice Parker who just retire.

509
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Speaker 1: Like the the litany of WNBA players who have now

510
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Speaker 1: become legends to sports fans is long enough. And also

511
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:43,840
Speaker 1: the game has evolved enough that it puts people like

512
00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:45,920
Speaker 1: you in a tough spot because now you'll be asked

513
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Speaker 1: questions like if you're naming the five best WNBA players,

514
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Speaker 1: who are you naming?

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Speaker 4: Oh you're not asking me that, are you?

516
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Speaker 1: I'm asking you right now because it's like, well, because

517
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Speaker 1: the game has changed so much, and like you know,

518
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:04,879
Speaker 1: those first few years, like Houston is dominating and Cheryl

519
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:07,439
Speaker 1: Swoops is amazing, and now all of a sudden, like

520
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:10,000
Speaker 1: people like that, people who are coming to the WNBA

521
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:13,280
Speaker 1: right now might not even remember or know that that

522
00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:17,240
Speaker 1: was something that was incredible when the league was first starting.

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Speaker 4: Well, I'm running through my list of people in my mind,

524
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Speaker 4: and there's so many. I mean, if I just went

525
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Speaker 4: from Naysmith and looked at you know, someone like Cheryl

526
00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:31,800
Speaker 4: Miller didn't even get to play in the WNBA, right,

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Speaker 4: so that would be one of the all time greats.

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Speaker 4: But you know, Teresa Weatherspoon and Michelle Tims, two people

529
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Speaker 4: you might not think about are in Nasmith. Lauren Jackson

530
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:45,840
Speaker 4: is Naysmith two Australian Tims and Jackson Australian players. Then

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Speaker 4: you have the Houston dynasty that you just mentioned, Cooper,

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Speaker 4: Swoops Thompson, Okay. Then you have la Lisa Leslie Hall

533
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Speaker 4: of Famer. I mean it's a tough list. Then you

534
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:05,440
Speaker 4: go to the Connecticut group Yukon. You mentioned Sue and Diana.

535
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,399
Speaker 4: Diana's not and Sue are not eligible for Naysmith, but

536
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Speaker 4: they'll be first ballot Hall of Famers. Brianna Stewart would

537
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:16,399
Speaker 4: be a first ballot Hall of Famer. Maya Moore. I

538
00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:18,840
Speaker 4: just helped induct her into the Women's Basketball Hall of

539
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:22,280
Speaker 4: Fame this year. Simone Augustus going into Nasmith this year.

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Speaker 4: So I mean, I say that that is a tough list.

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Speaker 4: That is a really hard list to come up with because,

542
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Speaker 4: as you said, the game has evolved so much. Cynthia

543
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:35,320
Speaker 4: Cooper is always a great story for me because she

544
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 4: spent twelve years in Europe and came back later in

545
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 4: her playing days and dominated the league, like if we

546
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Speaker 4: had had the league before she had to go overseas.

547
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 4: And then right now we're watching Asia Wilson in just

548
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:54,520
Speaker 4: seven years, got two MVPs, got two Defensive Player of

549
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Speaker 4: the Year awards, has two titles, is an All star,

550
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Speaker 4: she said, in the next couple of years. I mean,

551
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:07,160
Speaker 4: she could wipe away everyone else's credentials. That's how good

552
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:10,720
Speaker 4: she is. So I'm excited about what's coming. It's hard

553
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Speaker 4: to pick five. I don't know if I can get

554
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Speaker 4: to five, but I know Katie Smith is a Naysmith

555
00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:19,320
Speaker 4: Hall of Famer. You know, you could just keep going

556
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:21,160
Speaker 4: through the list. There's so many greats that have played

557
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:23,400
Speaker 4: the game that came before this group of young talent

558
00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:27,960
Speaker 4: that's that's entered into a new era that has elevated

559
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:32,880
Speaker 4: everybody's eyeballs, right, So that's a good thing. So I

560
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:35,160
Speaker 4: can't get you five. That's too hard. I just rattled

561
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Speaker 4: off a bunch of names. I'm sure I lost somebody

562
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Speaker 4: there that I should have probably mentioned. Tamika Catchings, you know,

563
00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:45,000
Speaker 4: Tamika Catchings, nay Smith hall of Famer. You caught me

564
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:46,880
Speaker 4: off guard a little bit, But that's a good conversation

565
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Speaker 4: for me to be thinking about.

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Speaker 1: Well, you did give me a roster. You can't give

567
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Speaker 1: me five, but you can give me a roster, which

568
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Speaker 1: is which is which is still pretty good because even

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Speaker 1: some of those names like I've forgotten to Meek a

570
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Speaker 1: catch right, like you forget like I had forgotten Lisa Leslie,

571
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:07,440
Speaker 1: like so many players who were so dominant and help

572
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Speaker 1: move the league in the direction that it is now.

573
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Speaker 1: Who Like when we talk about Caitlin Clark, you talk

574
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Speaker 1: about Angel Reich, They're standing on the shoulders of all

575
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Speaker 1: these players, right who over the years have had their

576
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Speaker 1: moments where they were going to be the face of

577
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Speaker 1: the league. Is that as it transcended. That's what Caitlyn

578
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:31,080
Speaker 1: Clark like is taking it to the charters, taking it

579
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Speaker 1: to a double header on national TV to open the season.

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Speaker 1: But that's something that Auto m.

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Speaker 2: Domickson.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's Clarkinomics. I coined it in November. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 4: a phrase I came up with. I have actually have

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Speaker 4: T shirt clarkonomics.

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Speaker 1: You're getting paid for that. I hope you're getting paid

586
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Speaker 1: for that, because you're not getting paid for the Vegas ideas,

587
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Speaker 1: so you might as well get Yeah.

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Speaker 4: No, no, no, my best ideas result in zero incomes

589
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Speaker 4: to the Anton La Fa and So family. So no,

590
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Speaker 4: I'm not getting paid for that.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of Antonelli family. Very smooth transition. You will be

592
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Speaker 1: very soon. Probably what is it the three days from now?

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Speaker 2: I think.

594
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Speaker 1: Doing an endurance test that very few people can match.

595
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Speaker 1: For the Nothing but Net charity that you run. Explain

596
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Speaker 1: what it is and what you're going to be doing.

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Speaker 1: I have a lot of questions about this.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, thank you guys so much, or give me a

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Speaker 4: chance to talk about this. Twenty four hours Nothing but

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Speaker 4: Net is a twenty four hour free throw shooting marathon.

601
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Speaker 4: I make one hundred free throws on the top of

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Speaker 4: every hour for twenty four straight hours. So at the

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Speaker 4: end of twenty four hours, I've made twenty four hundred.

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Speaker 4: This is year six and I will be in my

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Speaker 4: driveway once again on May eighteen and nineteen. I start

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Speaker 4: at noon and I end at noon. It takes me

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Speaker 4: fifteen minutes to make a hound. We live stream the

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Speaker 4: entire twenty four hours. I have pre taped and some

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Speaker 4: live interviews of actors, celebrities, coaches, players. It's entertainment. The

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Speaker 4: other forty five minutes, or what we try to create

611
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Speaker 4: is entertainment. In the first five years of the event,

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Speaker 4: all everything goes to special Olympics. There's no very little

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Speaker 4: overhead in my driveway. So this is a fundraiser for

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Speaker 4: Special Olympics. I have three boys. My middle son has

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Speaker 4: Down syndrome. Special Olympics was a great spot for him

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Speaker 4: to compete and train and organize and socialize, and we're

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Speaker 4: trying to help other families do the same thing. It

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Speaker 4: allowed my son to have confidence to go to college.

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Speaker 4: He went to the Clemson Life Program. Life as an acronym.

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Speaker 4: Learning is for everyone. He graduated. He lives at Clemson

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Speaker 4: independently with support, and he works two jobs. It's an

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Speaker 4: incredible community that they've created there for people with intellectual

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Speaker 4: and physical disability. And so in the first five years

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Speaker 4: of our event, we raised eight hundred and sixty thousand.

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Speaker 4: This year I am poised and plan on and say

626
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Speaker 4: good prayer that we can cross a million dollars. So

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Speaker 4: hopefully on May nineteenth, at noon, when I'm finished shooting,

628
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Speaker 4: we will have raised a million dollars for Special Olympics.

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Speaker 4: It's not something that I thought of. I came up

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Speaker 4: with the idea. It was kind of a crazy whim.

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Speaker 4: I didn't know if I could do it. I didn't

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Speaker 4: know if anybody would watch, and I didn't know if

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Speaker 4: anyone would give. And six years in we're about ready

634
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Speaker 4: to raise a million dollars for Special Olympics. So it's

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Speaker 4: it's incredibly crazy and amazing and very emotional, and I'm

636
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Speaker 4: sure it'll be very emotional when we get to the

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Speaker 4: end on Sunday.

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm going to donate. I can guarantee Simon's going

639
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Speaker 1: to donate. I would hope that a lot of our

640
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Speaker 1: listeners are going to donate as well. When is it

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Speaker 1: the hardest window to make the shots?

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Speaker 4: So after doing it for five years, the first year

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Speaker 4: I was in the gym, and then COVID put us

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Speaker 4: outside and the first year we raised eighty five thousand,

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Speaker 4: and I didn't want to not do it. So we

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Speaker 4: just went in the driveway and sort of did it

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Speaker 4: by ourselves and live streamed it and made it work

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Speaker 4: the best we could. The training is the hard part,

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Speaker 4: because it's the fitness part of it that it's not

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Speaker 4: the you know, I have muscle memory and the ability

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Speaker 4: to self correct. I probably shot the ball billion times

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Speaker 4: in my lifetime. I'm still shooting it.

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Speaker 2: It.

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Speaker 4: The hardest hours are the first couple of hours. The

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Speaker 4: emotion and the adrenaline all that and then I was

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Speaker 4: saying that in my training I would be thinking about

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Speaker 4: pushing through that two, three, four am, five am. But

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Speaker 4: those hours I seem to shoot my best. So I

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Speaker 4: didn't tell you. My five year average is ninety four percent.

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Speaker 4: I have had a couple of hour that I did

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Speaker 4: not miss I've had several hours where I've missed one

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Speaker 4: or two. Those usually come in the middle of the night.

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Speaker 4: So the first couple of hours, in the last couple

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Speaker 4: of hours are really the hardest. And listen to this.

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Speaker 4: The first hour the Mount Pleasant other than Mount Pleasant,

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Speaker 4: South Carolina, the police department runs the torch into my yard.

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Speaker 4: We have a cauldron, a mini cauldron for special Olympics.

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Speaker 4: The torch burns for twenty four hours. We have a

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Speaker 4: lot of people that are there. Last year, Roy Williams,

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Speaker 4: the Roy Williams showed up in my driveway for the

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Speaker 4: first hour. You talk about being nervous shooting one hundred

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Speaker 4: free throws, I mean that was incredible. I missed seven

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Speaker 4: the first hour. So it's not about the free throws.

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Speaker 4: That is the platform and the vehicle to share the

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Speaker 4: stories and most of the live stream has special Olympic

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Speaker 4: athletes from all over the country coach k Dabo Sweeney,

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Speaker 4: Shane Beemer. You know, I've had Jim Ants, I've had

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Speaker 4: Ernie Johnson. I dig deep into my basketball rolodex to

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Speaker 4: try to come up with as many big names as

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Speaker 4: I can and ask them to push it out on

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Speaker 4: their social It's all helped us raise some money. So

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Speaker 4: it's quite crazy. It sounds crazy. I do get AARP mail,

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Speaker 4: but I'm out there hustling and scraping and grinding and

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Speaker 4: trying to raise as much money as we can to

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Speaker 4: help special Olympics, help families like mine, because I know

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Speaker 4: how important it is.

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Speaker 1: What do you do for the other forty five minutes

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Speaker 1: it takes your fifteen minutes to make free throws?

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Speaker 4: Well, there's a lot you guys might be too young

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Speaker 4: to remember Jerry Lewis and the Muscular District v telethon,

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Speaker 4: But that's sort of what I'm doing. I'm in the driveway.

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Speaker 4: I might be leading to the next interview. I might

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Speaker 4: be doing a live interview. I might be, you know,

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Speaker 4: capping off something we just ran to tell a story.

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Speaker 4: It's a constant effort to try to ask people to give,

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Speaker 4: and what I ask everyone I meet is, for one

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Speaker 4: penny for every free throw. That's twenty four dollars. Most

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Speaker 4: people can do that or a little bit more. And

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Speaker 4: that's how we've raised it. It's been very much grassroots.

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Speaker 4: It's all a grassroots effort. I have a lot. The

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Speaker 4: average donation I think was one hundred and fifty dollars

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Speaker 4: over from when we get to a million, I think

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Speaker 4: it's probably gonna be about one fifty to two hundred

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Speaker 4: is the average donation.

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Speaker 1: Very important question for a gambling podcast. Have you ever

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Speaker 4: No, I've never had a chance to do that, but

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Speaker 4: I would like to.

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Speaker 1: I have.

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Speaker 4: I do have one donor that gives me two hundred

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Speaker 4: and fifty dollars for every hour over ninety percent, and

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Speaker 4: last year I only missed two and those are the

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Speaker 4: last two. So that's the kind of I wish I

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Speaker 4: could come up with some more of that because that

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Speaker 4: puts the moneyball equation into it, because in my mind

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Speaker 4: I know how many I've missed. So I mean, so

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Speaker 4: it's the other forty five minutes. I'm I'm I'm not sleeping.

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Speaker 4: I don't go to and I don't start drinking coffee

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Speaker 4: till about six. So I've figured out a way to

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Speaker 4: manage the hydration. And there's a lot of people in

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Speaker 4: the driveway. I mean all hours of the night, there

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Speaker 4: are people there and they're having a good time. So

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Speaker 4: it's fun. I can just say this that people come

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Speaker 4: and they say, like my two sisters who from my

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Speaker 4: entire life never rebounded for me in the driveway or

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Speaker 4: everyone out there, you know, but they're like, what are

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Speaker 4: we gonna do? Come down there and watch you shoot

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Speaker 4: free throws. We've watched you shoot your whole life. I'm like, well, yeah,

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Speaker 4: you're gonna watch for fifteen minutes, but there's a lot

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Speaker 4: of stuff going on and pretty soon it's time to

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Speaker 4: shoot again. So it's been amazing. It's been amazing. It's

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Speaker 4: been amazing the amount of impact the money has had

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Speaker 4: and the awareness that has generated for Special Olympics. And

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Speaker 4: I wish I had started it fifteen years earlier. If

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Speaker 4: i'd started fifteen years earlier, I can only imagine how

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Speaker 4: many millions of dollars you might have raised by now.

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Speaker 4: But this is the first million, and I'm going to

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Speaker 4: keep working on the second million. And like I say,

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Speaker 4: on the air. I'm gonna shot till my armfalls off,

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Speaker 4: and it literally is falling off in the driveway. So

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Speaker 4: I wish people knew how hard I worked and trained

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Speaker 4: That and maintaining the emotions in the last hour is

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Speaker 4: pretty hard.

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Speaker 1: You don't have to say it's a future's bet. Are

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Speaker 1: Is it a super team.

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Speaker 2: From New York?

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Speaker 1: Where would you say the best? Who's most likely to

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Speaker 4: Well, it's not a a great money line for you guys, right,

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Speaker 4: but it is Vegas. I do think they're the best team.

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Speaker 4: They averaged over ninety points last year. They have four

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Speaker 4: won more games than anyone last year. They went over

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Speaker 4: do it again. Vegas is on fire for women's hoops,

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Speaker 4: it's a great environment to be in. But I do

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Speaker 4: think that I'm keeping my eye on for a couple

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Speaker 4: of sleeper teams like Dallas. Enrique Agumbawalle. She's such a

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Speaker 4: my eye on Dallas. Of course, Indiana hasn't been in

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Speaker 4: but Melissa Smith is a big time player. She could

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Speaker 4: be an All Star this year. I think she is

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Speaker 4: equally adept at handling the two man game with Caitlin

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Speaker 4: history of the NCAA. Caitlin passed her along her rise

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Speaker 4: this season, and I've got great faith in Indiana. The

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Speaker 4: I do think Vegas has the ability to repeat that

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