WEBVTT - Geoff Ogilvy - Winged Foot, the U.S. Open, and the FedEx Cup 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:03.760 Welcome back to another edition of the Frida Egg Podcast. 0:00:04.080 --> 0:00:08.080 Today's episode is brought to you by Athletic Brewing. If 0:00:08.119 --> 0:00:12.080 you are looking for a great non alcoholic beverage, let 0:00:12.080 --> 0:00:15.760 me introduce you to Athletic Brewing, who make wonderful tasting 0:00:15.880 --> 0:00:19.720 craft and non alcoholic beer. As a new father, I 0:00:19.720 --> 0:00:24.320 have found this stuff particularly great. It lets me have 0:00:24.400 --> 0:00:28.640 a beverage or two and unwind at night while keeping 0:00:28.680 --> 0:00:32.400 me clear headed and easy to wake up during those 0:00:32.400 --> 0:00:35.520 odd hours you find yourself awake. 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So that'll 0:02:29.120 --> 0:02:31.960 be kind of like a it's kind of like a 0:02:32.000 --> 0:02:36.200 podcast that Digging into design series, but with video. So 0:02:36.919 --> 0:02:39.359 when he's talking about features on the golf course, we're 0:02:39.360 --> 0:02:41.440 going to show you what he's talking about, or historical 0:02:41.440 --> 0:02:43.799 photos that they use during the restoration, we're going to 0:02:43.840 --> 0:02:46.360 show you. I think it's just a better format to 0:02:46.440 --> 0:02:49.560 talk about a golf course than necessarily a podcast, which 0:02:49.560 --> 0:02:52.480 we've done a lot of over the years. So, without 0:02:52.520 --> 0:02:56.200 further ado, here is Jeff Ogilvie. I miss a green, 0:02:56.280 --> 0:02:58.919 for example, I'm already upset when I find my ball 0:02:58.919 --> 0:02:59.440 in the bunker. 0:02:59.440 --> 0:03:01.359 I'm really a set. You want to find my. 0:03:01.320 --> 0:03:04.160 Ball in a bright egg Friday egg, the dreaded Frida 0:03:04.200 --> 0:03:06.840 egg Frida egg, Frid Egg, Brian egg bride egg brid 0:03:06.919 --> 0:03:07.359 egg Lie. 0:03:07.400 --> 0:03:08.840 I'm about ready to run off with the. 0:03:18.320 --> 0:03:19.600 Be It will be a game. It will be a 0:03:19.600 --> 0:03:22.480 make or break for him. Actually, I mean you can 0:03:22.520 --> 0:03:26.120 tell right now, for you, like the way you look 0:03:26.120 --> 0:03:27.919 at things changes a little bit, you know what I mean? 0:03:28.520 --> 0:03:30.840 Like he might just not want to be overseas as 0:03:30.919 --> 0:03:32.280 much and you want might want to be at home 0:03:32.320 --> 0:03:34.200 a bit more. And I don't know, we'll see it 0:03:34.320 --> 0:03:38.839 changes a few guys, some guys without a conscience keep 0:03:38.840 --> 0:03:41.720 playing well or better, you know, guys with a conscience, 0:03:41.960 --> 0:03:43.360 and he is one with a conscience. 0:03:44.320 --> 0:03:46.480 I don't know. It's fifty to fifty after kids, you know, 0:03:46.800 --> 0:03:47.360 it's different. 0:03:48.080 --> 0:03:50.600 Do you believe so this is a question I had 0:03:50.640 --> 0:03:55.440 for you. Will it wins right after baby? There's been 0:03:55.480 --> 0:03:59.600 a lot of study it like not studies, anecdotal stuff 0:03:59.640 --> 0:04:03.960 about basketball guys having a baby and then shooting. They're 0:04:04.040 --> 0:04:07.880 unconscious shooting for a couple of weeks after. Do you 0:04:08.040 --> 0:04:11.600 do you believe in any kind of post baby bump. 0:04:12.800 --> 0:04:15.360 Yeah, I would believe in a post baby bump short 0:04:15.480 --> 0:04:19.320 term that it would be potential that it would because 0:04:19.320 --> 0:04:21.960 you're so high on life right it is. Nothing is better, 0:04:22.080 --> 0:04:24.920 like it's the everything is good, you know, And it's 0:04:25.000 --> 0:04:27.800 quite a scary thing having a baby, you know what 0:04:27.800 --> 0:04:29.480 I mean? Like this all of a sudden you think 0:04:29.480 --> 0:04:31.360 there's things that can go. You've never worried about stuff 0:04:31.400 --> 0:04:33.159 before your life, and now is that you're worried about 0:04:33.279 --> 0:04:35.040 things going wrong? Or is this baby going to be 0:04:35.040 --> 0:04:36.920 all right? I hope everyone's healthy. I hope my wife's 0:04:36.920 --> 0:04:38.919 all right. So when it all happens and it's just 0:04:38.960 --> 0:04:41.080 such a happy moment, I think you can get a bump. 0:04:41.320 --> 0:04:45.240 I think long term, it's a challenge for a guy 0:04:45.320 --> 0:04:47.360 who wants to be around his kids and his family 0:04:47.480 --> 0:04:50.400 because the tour life is and when you're a home 0:04:50.440 --> 0:04:51.800 you're at the golf course all day and then you 0:04:51.839 --> 0:04:54.080 go away all the time, you know, and it's not 0:04:55.320 --> 0:04:57.040 all the time all the time, like three weeks is 0:04:57.080 --> 0:05:01.480 three weeks, you know, So handle that stuff different, both 0:05:01.480 --> 0:05:02.400 sides of it, I think. 0:05:02.800 --> 0:05:04.960 And your kids can only travel with you for so 0:05:05.120 --> 0:05:06.720 long until they have life. 0:05:07.520 --> 0:05:10.760 Ours came till the first one went to school, really, 0:05:11.480 --> 0:05:15.120 you know, and then which is five years, and then, yeah, 0:05:15.120 --> 0:05:18.159 they need their lives. Yeah, they need their friends, and 0:05:18.160 --> 0:05:19.680 they're set up and it's not fair to them to 0:05:19.680 --> 0:05:23.039 get dragged around the world. So it's fun for them 0:05:23.080 --> 0:05:24.200 a little bit, but not every week. 0:05:24.320 --> 0:05:24.479 You know. 0:05:24.720 --> 0:05:26.920 There's some there's some guys on tour who like homeschool 0:05:26.920 --> 0:05:29.400 their kids and they do it pretty much full time 0:05:29.440 --> 0:05:32.440 travel with their kids. But that's a full commitment too. 0:05:32.480 --> 0:05:35.880 That makes playing the golf different too, right. 0:05:36.320 --> 0:05:38.840 Yeah, And it's gotta be tough on the kids because 0:05:39.040 --> 0:05:41.919 they don't you know, they're friends, you know. 0:05:42.720 --> 0:05:45.360 But yeah, it's funny. 0:05:45.400 --> 0:05:47.600 It's funny, especially it's the same the tour life is 0:05:47.640 --> 0:05:51.640 interesting like that. It's my kids had a bunch of 0:05:51.640 --> 0:05:54.800 friends for the first five years of my oldest life 0:05:54.800 --> 0:05:57.200 and four years of the next one. Their friends were 0:05:57.240 --> 0:06:01.919 two friends kids of my is in all our friends. 0:06:01.920 --> 0:06:03.240 Our world was there. And then they start going to 0:06:03.279 --> 0:06:04.600 schools and they move on to their. 0:06:04.480 --> 0:06:06.600 School friends and they don't know any of the other 0:06:06.680 --> 0:06:07.960 kids anymore that they grew up with, the first five 0:06:08.000 --> 0:06:10.880 Because it's quite an interesting world, the tour world. If 0:06:10.920 --> 0:06:13.760 every five year runs of like kids coming out and 0:06:13.760 --> 0:06:15.880 then they disappear and new ones come out, you know, 0:06:15.880 --> 0:06:17.760 because everyone goes to school and stays at home all 0:06:17.760 --> 0:06:19.000 of a sudden, that's interesting. 0:06:19.600 --> 0:06:23.320 The other thing that's different about golfers and kids is 0:06:23.360 --> 0:06:27.200 that your guys' careers are generally longer and into your 0:06:27.480 --> 0:06:31.640 life later than a you know, a football player. They're 0:06:31.680 --> 0:06:35.480 done at twenty eight, twenty nine, basketball player very rarely 0:06:35.520 --> 0:06:38.920 over thirty three. And you know, you guys could play 0:06:38.960 --> 0:06:41.839 the senior Tour all the way till you're sixty. You know. 0:06:42.200 --> 0:06:44.680 That's the interesting thing about our careers is I start 0:06:44.760 --> 0:06:47.920 with all these I mean, it was me and Scottie 0:06:47.960 --> 0:06:50.760 and Justin Rose and Immlman and Garcia and all in 0:06:50.800 --> 0:06:54.440 that sort of thing, and then luc Donald and Palter 0:06:54.680 --> 0:06:58.480 and gradually people have kids and like and then later 0:06:58.520 --> 0:07:00.320 on other guys have kids, and my kids are kind 0:07:00.360 --> 0:07:02.960 of teenagers now and Scotty's are really young, and like, 0:07:03.000 --> 0:07:05.120 it's just the different phases of things, like i start 0:07:05.200 --> 0:07:08.840 bringing kids out on tour and I'm dragging diaper bags, 0:07:08.960 --> 0:07:12.320 you know, through the airport, and I'm like doing that 0:07:12.360 --> 0:07:14.239 sort of nightmare thing, which is great. 0:07:14.280 --> 0:07:16.560 It's a great period of your life, but it's also crazy. 0:07:16.880 --> 0:07:19.560 And then I get I'm finally over that, and you 0:07:19.640 --> 0:07:21.240 start going on your own and it was just kind 0:07:21.240 --> 0:07:24.880 of fun too, right, but then you've got the tragedy 0:07:24.920 --> 0:07:27.600 you're leaving your kids at home, you know, and then 0:07:27.840 --> 0:07:29.800 there all your friends are now carrying the diaper bags 0:07:29.800 --> 0:07:30.240 around and. 0:07:30.160 --> 0:07:31.160 You're back to doing it solo. 0:07:31.280 --> 0:07:33.120 It's just funny because the career, like you say, it 0:07:33.120 --> 0:07:34.560 goes for like thirty years or more. 0:07:35.600 --> 0:07:39.320 You live people's lives with them in a way, you know. 0:07:40.960 --> 0:07:43.000 Junior go off when they're single and you're young, and 0:07:43.000 --> 0:07:44.480 you kind of run around and you all kind of 0:07:44.520 --> 0:07:46.080 get married and then you all have kids and then 0:07:46.160 --> 0:07:48.040 the kids and wives are all stay at home and 0:07:48.080 --> 0:07:50.239 you're back to single again by the time you're late forties, 0:07:50.320 --> 0:07:53.320 you know what I mean, not single, but traveling solo again. 0:07:53.480 --> 0:07:55.800 You know, it's just the journey you take on tour 0:07:55.880 --> 0:07:57.840 is not It's not the same all the time. Like 0:07:58.080 --> 0:08:01.080 as your life changes, the way the tour works changes. 0:08:01.280 --> 0:08:02.200 You know, it's kind of fun. 0:08:02.600 --> 0:08:05.840 It's got to be a cool part when you all 0:08:05.960 --> 0:08:10.320 get on tour and like everybody's starting to have success. 0:08:10.400 --> 0:08:13.320 That's got to be like a cool moment when everybody 0:08:13.720 --> 0:08:16.880 that you grew up playing with and around around you 0:08:17.440 --> 0:08:20.320 has you know, made it, And then that. 0:08:20.320 --> 0:08:22.000 Was the best. It was the best. 0:08:22.040 --> 0:08:25.480 I mean my first year in Europe, we had five 0:08:25.480 --> 0:08:29.160 people in the house. We had a caddie drummer he 0:08:29.240 --> 0:08:32.280 was caddying for me, and we had Steve Allen who 0:08:33.000 --> 0:08:34.520 was playing in Europe at the time, who's played a 0:08:34.559 --> 0:08:36.680 lot of PJ Tour and web dot Com, corn Ferry, 0:08:37.280 --> 0:08:40.080 Marcus Wheelhouse and Steve Alca who still plays up and 0:08:40.120 --> 0:08:42.480 down from the corn Ferry. So we had four golfers 0:08:42.559 --> 0:08:44.520 and if one of us came home on Sunday night 0:08:44.640 --> 0:08:47.760 and made ten thousand pounds, so if someone has made 0:08:47.800 --> 0:08:48.560 five figures. 0:08:48.640 --> 0:08:50.000 We went out all night. That was it. 0:08:50.080 --> 0:08:52.400 We were celebrating for a week. If one guy made 0:08:52.400 --> 0:08:55.319 ten thousands. Now it's like fifteen thousand for last place 0:08:55.360 --> 0:08:57.800 at like the John Deere or something, right, but if 0:08:57.800 --> 0:09:01.040 someone made ten thousand pounds, we were dining out for 0:09:01.160 --> 0:09:03.199 three days on how happy we were for our friends 0:09:03.200 --> 0:09:06.480 and to see guys fight for their card and have 0:09:06.600 --> 0:09:08.560 that great week late in the year, or some guy 0:09:08.600 --> 0:09:10.920 gets his first win, or that journey through as people 0:09:11.040 --> 0:09:13.040 come up through, it's just it's a brilliant period. 0:09:13.080 --> 0:09:14.320 It's fantastic. Yeah, and you. 0:09:14.400 --> 0:09:17.400 Hope cutle of guys struggle, but a couple of guys 0:09:17.400 --> 0:09:19.520 are going well, and like, it's just a great journey. 0:09:19.559 --> 0:09:21.360 Golf like that when it goes well. I mean it's 0:09:21.360 --> 0:09:25.679 a brutal one when it doesn't. But those days are fun. 0:09:25.480 --> 0:09:29.320 And in a way, you don't get teammates in golf, 0:09:29.360 --> 0:09:32.880 but you get your guys that you essentially spent your 0:09:32.880 --> 0:09:33.520 whole life with. 0:09:33.840 --> 0:09:36.320 Yeah, I mean I've spent my life with well, my 0:09:36.440 --> 0:09:39.240 working life with the same bunch of people. 0:09:39.360 --> 0:09:39.800 Generally. 0:09:40.920 --> 0:09:43.880 Yeah, it's it comes and goes. You're definitely on the 0:09:43.880 --> 0:09:48.000 same team. In a way, you're never very rarely. Like 0:09:48.040 --> 0:09:49.920 I think if we played match play like the tennis, 0:09:50.040 --> 0:09:51.880 if it was to tennis head to head, I think 0:09:51.880 --> 0:09:54.719 the locker room would be a little bit frostier, you know. 0:09:55.320 --> 0:09:59.520 But because seventy two half stroke players a brutal thing 0:09:59.559 --> 0:10:02.560 to do any and also there's more than one winner 0:10:02.840 --> 0:10:06.000 in a stroke play tournament. As the guy hasn't made 0:10:06.000 --> 0:10:07.480 a cup for a while, he finally makes a cut, 0:10:07.480 --> 0:10:08.079 he's a winner, you know. 0:10:08.120 --> 0:10:09.280 And there's a few of them. Every week. There's a 0:10:09.320 --> 0:10:10.800 guy hasn't had a top ten for three years, he 0:10:10.800 --> 0:10:13.600 has a top ten. He's a winner. The guy like 0:10:13.679 --> 0:10:14.120 wins the. 0:10:14.040 --> 0:10:16.360 Tournament a winner everybod there's lots of little winners. Whereas 0:10:16.400 --> 0:10:19.160 match play there's a winner and a loser. So the 0:10:19.320 --> 0:10:22.679 fifty percent of every day, half the people are headless 0:10:22.760 --> 0:10:24.280 and they don't like the burther the guy that just 0:10:24.280 --> 0:10:24.880 beat them right. 0:10:25.200 --> 0:10:26.079 Stroke plays different. 0:10:26.120 --> 0:10:28.040 If you haven't had a good tournament, you've had a 0:10:28.080 --> 0:10:30.240 run of twentieth and you have a tenth, that's a 0:10:30.240 --> 0:10:30.680 good week. 0:10:30.720 --> 0:10:31.840 It's like a mini victory. 0:10:32.120 --> 0:10:35.040 So I think because it's like that, we're all quite 0:10:35.040 --> 0:10:37.439 happy to we want everyone else to do well anyway, 0:10:37.480 --> 0:10:39.520 because we realize a good year is only winning once 0:10:39.600 --> 0:10:42.480 or twice and three times or something. That's ninety five 0:10:42.520 --> 0:10:44.120 percent of the tournaments we play, other people are going 0:10:44.200 --> 0:10:46.080 to win, So you'd rather your friends win those than 0:10:46.080 --> 0:10:48.679 everyone else. Right, It's such a hard job. Who if 0:10:48.760 --> 0:10:51.960 someone asks you for help on tour, everybody helps everybody. 0:10:52.120 --> 0:10:53.520 No one says, nah, I'm not going to tell you 0:10:53.600 --> 0:10:56.080 that because it's just such a hard it's not going 0:10:56.160 --> 0:10:58.120 to make the guy beat you. It's just helping him 0:10:58.120 --> 0:10:59.920 because you've needed help before. 0:11:00.040 --> 0:11:02.520 You know. It's such a So no I saw that golf. 0:11:04.040 --> 0:11:06.880 Yeah, I was looking at like John Rahm after he 0:11:06.960 --> 0:11:11.760 won BMW eleven wins and at the time one hundred 0:11:11.800 --> 0:11:15.360 and four pro starts, but that includes some as an amateur. 0:11:15.720 --> 0:11:20.000 His win rates like eleven percent, and it's astronomic. You 0:11:20.000 --> 0:11:21.800 think about it, it's like, oh, that's not that high, 0:11:21.920 --> 0:11:25.719 but Tiger Tiger's twenty two, and then there's nobody else 0:11:25.800 --> 0:11:27.840 higher than John rob at eleven percent. 0:11:28.600 --> 0:11:31.920 Eleven's outrageous. I mean one in ten. I mean, if 0:11:31.960 --> 0:11:34.440 you play thirty a year, that's three tournaments a year. 0:11:34.559 --> 0:11:38.800 That's pretty good, right, but comparative comparative to other sports, 0:11:38.840 --> 0:11:41.160 it's like the numbers are like, what, really ten percent? 0:11:41.920 --> 0:11:42.280 Come on? 0:11:42.800 --> 0:11:46.040 Yeah, you think about baseball, they always make that joke about, oh, 0:11:46.080 --> 0:11:49.600 if you bat three hundred year hall of famer in golf, 0:11:49.640 --> 0:11:55.640 if you yeah, five percent win rate, you're you're well, 0:11:55.800 --> 0:11:56.640 all time greats. 0:11:57.000 --> 0:11:59.640 It's like a measure of like filing the least as 0:11:59.679 --> 0:12:02.000 opposed to winning that he's doing the most right. Baseball 0:12:02.040 --> 0:12:04.679 hitting is the same. Yeah, if you hit it three 0:12:04.679 --> 0:12:07.120 out of ten times, you're Hall of famer. That's kind 0:12:07.160 --> 0:12:09.680 of nunty, right. If you win two out of every 0:12:09.679 --> 0:12:11.720 ten tournaments, you're the one of the best golf. You're 0:12:11.760 --> 0:12:17.479 the best golf of all time. Like, it's just crazy. 0:12:16.080 --> 0:12:17.840 Crazy though, by the way, that's one out of five. 0:12:18.320 --> 0:12:20.679 Oh my god, that's unbelievable. 0:12:21.440 --> 0:12:25.680 And that includes like the last ten that is unbelievable. 0:12:25.840 --> 0:12:28.360 That concludes a few years where he didn't win any Yeah, 0:12:28.400 --> 0:12:30.280 you know, it's just outrageous. 0:12:30.480 --> 0:12:32.559 I didn't have time. I was going to look at 0:12:32.640 --> 0:12:36.160 what it was from ninety nine to nine. It would 0:12:36.200 --> 0:12:37.960 probably be closer to thirty percent. 0:12:38.280 --> 0:12:40.199 I think it would have to be, wouldn't it. I 0:12:40.240 --> 0:12:42.040 Mean he had a couple of seven, eight nine win 0:12:42.160 --> 0:12:42.840 years didn't. 0:12:42.600 --> 0:12:46.280 He Yeah, And then it's like the top ten rate 0:12:46.520 --> 0:12:49.720 is insane. It's like, I think he's fifty over fifty 0:12:49.760 --> 0:12:51.640 percent of the time he's finished in top ten. 0:12:51.840 --> 0:12:54.079 Which is not even right, is it? 0:12:54.200 --> 0:12:56.559 Such people have no idea when they look at his numbers, 0:12:56.600 --> 0:12:58.600 if they only watch Tiger's numbers, they just think, oh, yeah, 0:12:58.679 --> 0:12:59.480 top ten easy. 0:13:00.000 --> 0:13:00.880 It's not that easy. 0:13:01.080 --> 0:13:03.280 That was the thing that I came out of it 0:13:03.480 --> 0:13:05.880 as I looked at like Ernie and Phil their win 0:13:06.000 --> 0:13:09.960 rates were seven percent, and it was and then you 0:13:10.000 --> 0:13:13.400 look at like Rory DJ They're at seven eight percent. 0:13:13.640 --> 0:13:17.280 And obviously, you know, Phil and Ernie have dropped some 0:13:17.480 --> 0:13:20.360 because of you know, the last six years of their career. 0:13:20.880 --> 0:13:25.160 But yeah, my conclusion was we should be comparing all 0:13:25.280 --> 0:13:28.600 the next big thing to Phil and Ernie, not to Tiger. 0:13:29.800 --> 0:13:34.000 Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Targer is the outlier. You can't use him. 0:13:34.040 --> 0:13:38.320 He's not the you can't use him. It's the numbers 0:13:38.320 --> 0:13:42.880 are so distorted from the rest that Targus Targa. You know, 0:13:43.280 --> 0:13:45.199 Jack's numbers are pretty nutty too. He won out a 0:13:45.280 --> 0:13:46.360 twenty percent of his tournaments. 0:13:46.400 --> 0:13:46.839 He's how low. 0:13:47.280 --> 0:13:49.839 Yeah, I think Hogan was thirty percent. 0:13:51.679 --> 0:13:54.640 Considering he was over two hundred at the start. It's 0:13:54.679 --> 0:13:58.840 pretty nuts in it. 0:13:57.760 --> 0:14:02.040 Andy he had a like a life threatening car crash 0:14:02.280 --> 0:14:07.640 in Yeah, it's nice. The all type greats you know, 0:14:08.040 --> 0:14:12.840 are really great. I'm interested to hear your thoughts two 0:14:12.880 --> 0:14:16.400 years in. What do you think of the FedEx Cup 0:14:16.559 --> 0:14:17.480 playoff format? 0:14:18.040 --> 0:14:18.400 I think it. 0:14:19.240 --> 0:14:21.240 I was on the pack when we were talking about this, 0:14:21.680 --> 0:14:25.080 and it was I guess the issue that everyone had 0:14:25.080 --> 0:14:27.000 with it was was just a bit confusing, Like the 0:14:27.040 --> 0:14:31.360 whole time, it's always been confusing, right, Yes, it's never 0:14:31.560 --> 0:14:34.120 been obviously simple to just you have to kind of 0:14:34.280 --> 0:14:36.760 read the fine print to work out what's going on. 0:14:37.480 --> 0:14:40.000 And you still kind of do in a way because 0:14:40.000 --> 0:14:43.880 it's so different. But the idea is you actually don't. 0:14:44.000 --> 0:14:46.920 It's actually relatively simple. Whatever the board says, that's that's 0:14:47.480 --> 0:14:50.400 that's the FedEx cupboard. It's actually created a FedEx Cup 0:14:50.440 --> 0:14:53.880 leaderboard effectively for the last four days. 0:14:54.360 --> 0:14:54.960 I don't mind it. 0:14:54.960 --> 0:14:58.680 The right guy won clearly, right, I mean, it may 0:14:58.760 --> 0:15:01.480 not have been the best player for the twelve months season, 0:15:02.400 --> 0:15:04.280 but he was certainly the best player at the right time. 0:15:04.760 --> 0:15:07.360 You know, he was, without a doubt the best player 0:15:07.520 --> 0:15:08.480 in the playoffs. 0:15:09.480 --> 0:15:10.160 Oh by a mile. 0:15:10.240 --> 0:15:13.640 I mean Olympia Fields was just that finish was just 0:15:13.720 --> 0:15:16.800 beyond outrageous. And the play golf he played there and 0:15:16.920 --> 0:15:19.120 the golf he played at Boston was just not that's 0:15:19.280 --> 0:15:20.240 not human, you know. 0:15:20.280 --> 0:15:22.000 And then to go and win, I know. 0:15:21.960 --> 0:15:24.080 He technically didn't win East Late, but he won East Late. 0:15:26.600 --> 0:15:29.680 Five in front finishes it off for Clark. I mean, yeah, 0:15:29.320 --> 0:15:31.960 he when he's there like kissing, his quotes perfect when 0:15:31.960 --> 0:15:35.920 he starts when he's feeling it, Like what do you 0:15:36.000 --> 0:15:37.520 say when feeling it? I just try to make a 0:15:37.520 --> 0:15:39.120 bit of money to fill up my bank account, Like 0:15:39.120 --> 0:15:40.120 I ain't catching that guy. 0:15:40.160 --> 0:15:42.680 That's actually true. You're not catching Dustin when he's feeling it. 0:15:42.680 --> 0:15:43.560 It's a bit like Rory. 0:15:43.640 --> 0:15:46.120 Him and Rory feeling it would be interesting, you know, 0:15:46.200 --> 0:15:50.160 because they both go so crazy low and like dominate fields. 0:15:50.560 --> 0:15:54.640 You know, Brooks dominates tough golf courses and he dominates 0:15:54.680 --> 0:15:59.040 that down the stretch thing, you know. But Dustin and Rory, 0:15:59.080 --> 0:16:02.080 they just they don't have a governor when they get going, 0:16:02.160 --> 0:16:04.360 they just it's fun to watch. 0:16:04.680 --> 0:16:08.200 To win by eleven with like the world, I mean, 0:16:08.320 --> 0:16:11.720 what are the best fields of the year. It's just 0:16:12.360 --> 0:16:15.120 I don't care where it is. It's insane. You won 0:16:15.200 --> 0:16:18.800 by six? Were you just in the zone that week. 0:16:19.320 --> 0:16:21.840 Cappellau I won by six? Yeah, I played so well 0:16:21.880 --> 0:16:24.480 that week. And it's funny. I started six in front 0:16:25.040 --> 0:16:27.280 and those leads are really hard. On Sunday, It's the 0:16:27.360 --> 0:16:29.760 only time I ever had any sort of significant lead, 0:16:30.000 --> 0:16:31.920 and it was really weird, and I played kind of 0:16:31.960 --> 0:16:34.920 weird tents and stuff the first eight holes and I 0:16:34.960 --> 0:16:36.840 was back twenty one in front, going up nine, and 0:16:36.880 --> 0:16:39.000 then I made a great eagle on nine at Cappelua, 0:16:39.040 --> 0:16:41.880 and then I was away right and I ended up 0:16:41.880 --> 0:16:44.040 winning by six, but winning by eleven, and I was 0:16:44.120 --> 0:16:45.880 just that was the best I ever played, probably on 0:16:45.920 --> 0:16:48.080 a course it really suited me. And there's only thirty 0:16:48.120 --> 0:16:51.240 guys there, So winning by six a Capellau is not winning. 0:16:51.720 --> 0:16:54.640 Winning by six somewhere in a full normal field is 0:16:54.760 --> 0:16:57.400 more impressive, right, because you've beat more guys, so eleven 0:16:57.440 --> 0:17:01.080 guys at Boston on a course that would be hard 0:17:01.120 --> 0:17:04.840 to separate because everybody finds it relatively easy to make 0:17:04.840 --> 0:17:07.800 a few birdies, you know, it finds a good player 0:17:08.560 --> 0:17:12.280 that's actually wing foot relative to like a Boston. I 0:17:12.280 --> 0:17:15.440 think they're both that it's a good comparison. You still 0:17:15.480 --> 0:17:17.960 find great players who won at Boston all the way 0:17:18.000 --> 0:17:19.760 through if you look at who have won there, and 0:17:19.800 --> 0:17:21.800 it's always been low, but it's always great players. So 0:17:21.840 --> 0:17:24.800 it finds players who have every shot right and the 0:17:24.840 --> 0:17:27.159 best player in the currently at the moment just one 0:17:27.200 --> 0:17:29.840 by eleven, so their play. It's finding the best player. 0:17:29.840 --> 0:17:32.240 But also Olympia Fields found the best player too, you 0:17:32.280 --> 0:17:34.240 know the next week And that was. 0:17:34.200 --> 0:17:38.400 The thing with Boston too, was Harris English was kind 0:17:38.400 --> 0:17:41.480 of out on his zone and second too. It was 0:17:41.560 --> 0:17:43.719 clearly the second best player that week. 0:17:44.040 --> 0:17:46.360 It was a bit like the well, the last time 0:17:46.400 --> 0:17:48.680 we saw something like that was truon right with Stenson 0:17:48.760 --> 0:17:51.920 and Michelson. They just, i mean third played the best 0:17:51.920 --> 0:17:54.480 tournament ever, true, I mean the best. They played the 0:17:54.480 --> 0:17:56.800 third best Open championship ever and they finished third by 0:17:57.080 --> 0:17:58.720 fifteen shots or something. 0:18:00.480 --> 0:18:02.840 But yeah, Boston's great. That's a good course. 0:18:02.880 --> 0:18:06.960 I'm glad it's it's certainly a longheaded course, like a 0:18:07.119 --> 0:18:12.720 massive advantage to fly the trouble. But yeah, Dustin, wow, 0:18:13.240 --> 0:18:15.159 what a level they're playing at the moment. But like 0:18:15.200 --> 0:18:18.280 in two weeks time, that could be the JT, you know, 0:18:18.359 --> 0:18:20.239 and two weeks later it could be Brooks could be 0:18:20.240 --> 0:18:22.000 coming back. Well, Brooks a bit hurt, but when he 0:18:22.200 --> 0:18:24.760 gets fit, he could be that guy that's Rory could 0:18:24.800 --> 0:18:25.760 easily just go bang. 0:18:25.880 --> 0:18:26.040 You know. 0:18:26.119 --> 0:18:28.320 It's like we've never had we haven't had a lot 0:18:28.320 --> 0:18:31.080 of this for a long time. There's ten potential number 0:18:31.080 --> 0:18:33.760 oners in the world, you know, and then there hasn't 0:18:33.800 --> 0:18:35.880 been before maybe more. 0:18:36.240 --> 0:18:39.080 I've always thought that winning tournaments is one thing, but 0:18:39.240 --> 0:18:42.720 blowing out people is a whole different level of goth. 0:18:43.600 --> 0:18:44.560 Yeah, that's true. 0:18:44.640 --> 0:18:46.239 It's it's just and I said, I only ever did 0:18:46.240 --> 0:18:48.760 it once and six again, it's a sure short field 0:18:48.800 --> 0:18:49.560 isn't that thing. 0:18:49.600 --> 0:18:51.560 But I was playing so well at that time. 0:18:51.920 --> 0:18:55.000