1 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:12,960 Speaker 1: Hi guys, and welcome to a new episode of Couch 2 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:16,919 Speaker 1: Talks on You Need Therapy Podcast. My name is Cat, 3 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 1: I'm the host and if your new couch Talks is 4 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:24,119 Speaker 1: the special bonus episode that comes out every Wednesday on 5 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 1: You Need Therapy, where I answer questions that you guys 6 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 1: send into me and if you want to send in 7 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:32,559 Speaker 1: a question, you can send that to Catherine at you 8 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 1: Need Therapy podcast dot com. Now, quick reminder to everybody 9 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 1: before we get started that although this is a podcast 10 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:43,159 Speaker 1: hosted by a therapist and it's called You Need Therapy 11 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:46,600 Speaker 1: and I'm answering your questions, this podcast does not serve 12 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 1: as a replacement or substitute from actual mental health services 13 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:55,959 Speaker 1: or therapy, and it still can be helpful. So this 14 00:00:56,040 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 1: week is an exciting week for a couple of reasons. One, 15 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 1: I was really excited to share part one of the 16 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:06,919 Speaker 1: two part episode with JP Sachs this week. I recorded 17 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:08,679 Speaker 1: that a couple of weeks ago, and that was just 18 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:10,680 Speaker 1: a really fun interview for me to do because I'm 19 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 1: a big fan of his music and I thought he 20 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:14,760 Speaker 1: had a lot of really awesome, great things to say. 21 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 1: So I hope you guys listened to that. And also 22 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:20,960 Speaker 1: I am recently back from the Four Things with Amy 23 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 1: Brown live podcast show, and that episode that we recorded 24 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 1: live actually will come out this Thursday, so anyone can 25 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:31,120 Speaker 1: hear that and listen to it, even if they couldn't 26 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 1: come to the show. We recorded it in Wichita, Kansas, 27 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:39,119 Speaker 1: my first time to Wichita, and sadly, I went straight 28 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:43,279 Speaker 1: from the airport to the hotel and the show venue 29 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:46,119 Speaker 1: was actually connected to the hotel back to the airport, 30 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 1: so I didn't really get to experience the city. But 31 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 1: you know, who knows, maybe I'll be back one day. 32 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 1: And that was just really fun and really cool one 33 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 1: because it was just a fun event, but also because 34 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 1: I stretched so far out of my comfort zone and 35 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 1: I taught myself what I even was talking about in 36 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 1: the episode when I shared. So if you're like, what 37 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:12,919 Speaker 1: did she share? You can listen to it comes out 38 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 1: Thursday on four Things with Amy Brown podcast. But I 39 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 1: really got on my comfort zone. It was scary, and 40 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:21,639 Speaker 1: at the same time it was really good. I don't 41 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 1: usually talk in front of large groups of people, and 42 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:26,799 Speaker 1: while I can talk all day long on this podcast, 43 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:30,520 Speaker 1: and I very often get feedback like, oh, you're such 44 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:33,640 Speaker 1: a good speaker and this and that, and I'm like, listen. 45 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:37,919 Speaker 1: Podcast speaking is very different than public speaking. It's something 46 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 1: that's edited. A podcast is, and so I can fumble 47 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:43,079 Speaker 1: and restart and I'm not worried about people looking at me, 48 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:45,359 Speaker 1: and I have to worry about how people are receiving 49 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 1: something in the moment. And it has its own things 50 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:52,240 Speaker 1: that give me some fair and anxiety, but it's very different. 51 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 1: So it was just fun for me to say, Hey, 52 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 1: I want to do this thing. I want to speak 53 00:02:57,600 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 1: in front of these people, and it's scary and it's uncomfortable, 54 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 1: and it's also something that can be very very good 55 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 1: and fruitful, and it was. I also got to meet 56 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:09,800 Speaker 1: a lot of y'all, which was so cool and so 57 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:13,680 Speaker 1: fun to put like faces too listeners and some of 58 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:15,239 Speaker 1: you all got to meet Big Pa. Had a couple 59 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:17,799 Speaker 1: of people, um walk up and say, this must be 60 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 1: a big piece. So if you're like, what is that? 61 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 1: Who is that? That is what we have named my 62 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:26,239 Speaker 1: boyfriend on the four Things podcast, which if you're like, 63 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 1: why do you keep talking about the four Things podcast? 64 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 1: I co host one of the episodes of that podcast 65 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 1: every Tuesday, and then Amy does her longer main episodes 66 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 1: on Thursday, So if you haven't listened to that podcast before, 67 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 1: it's great, not just because I'm on it, sometimes it 68 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 1: just is a good podcast, so highly recommend that. Now, 69 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 1: before we get to this week's question, I wanted to 70 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 1: first read an email from a listener about the new 71 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 1: series I'm doing with my friend Tara. The series is 72 00:03:56,920 --> 00:04:00,120 Speaker 1: called The Difference Between, and it's a series where we 73 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 1: talk about the difference between terms that are becoming more 74 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 1: popular in our everyday language and what they actually mean clinically, 75 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 1: things like bipolar disorder or self care, abuse, abandonment. There'll 76 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 1: be much more. We have a long list of things 77 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 1: that we are going to continue to talk about. I 78 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 1: got a couple of emails about that series, which I'm 79 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 1: so grateful for that you guys are liking it and 80 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 1: getting something out of it. But I wanted to read 81 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:26,599 Speaker 1: this one in particular because I thought it was one 82 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:29,719 Speaker 1: really greatest and vulnerable for you to share this with me. 83 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 1: And also I think this is literally why we are 84 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 1: doing this episode, So thank you for the email. With 85 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:38,719 Speaker 1: all emails, I keep them anonymous here just for safety, 86 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:41,040 Speaker 1: so I'm not going to say who wrote this, but 87 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:43,920 Speaker 1: for the listener that did write this, thank you so much. 88 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 1: They said, I started listening to your podcast after you 89 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:50,920 Speaker 1: started appearing on Amy's Fifth Thing. I want to say 90 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:53,600 Speaker 1: thank you for your episode on bipolar disorder. I have 91 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 1: struggled with mental health my whole life. I was diagnosed 92 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:59,039 Speaker 1: with anxiety and depression when I was fourteen by my 93 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 1: family doctor. I always knew there was something more wrong 94 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 1: with me, as my medicine was only helping with certain 95 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:08,720 Speaker 1: aspects of my mental health. I started seeing a psychiatrist 96 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 1: and she determined that I have bipolar disorder. It is 97 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:15,160 Speaker 1: still such a new diagnosis and we're still working through 98 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:17,919 Speaker 1: what type I even have. I was so embarrassed and 99 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 1: I felt crazy. I didn't want to tell anybody. I 100 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:24,159 Speaker 1: felt as though my feelings toward anything wouldn't be valid 101 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:27,599 Speaker 1: because I'm bipolar. I didn't ever want it to be 102 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:29,840 Speaker 1: held against me if there is an argument, or if 103 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:32,919 Speaker 1: my emotions ran high in a situation and it was 104 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:36,839 Speaker 1: overlooked because I suffer from this brain issue. Trying to 105 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 1: explain it to people, I have to tell them that 106 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 1: this isn't what today's culture makes it seem to be. 107 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 1: I want them to know that I am someone who 108 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 1: is capable of making sound decisions still, and my moods 109 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:49,600 Speaker 1: aren't going to change every minute. I have seasons of 110 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 1: high highs and low lows, which is part of the 111 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:55,040 Speaker 1: reason why she diagnosed me. I acknowledge I haven't in 112 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:57,719 Speaker 1: balance and make an effort to be medicated in times 113 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 1: when it is too hard not to be. Thank you 114 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 1: for what you're doing to get the word out. I 115 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 1: really appreciate it, and it made me feel more normal. 116 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:08,280 Speaker 1: I guess I'm still working to get through this diagnosis, 117 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:10,360 Speaker 1: so I appreciate it. Have the day you need to have, 118 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:14,840 Speaker 1: and yeah, I wanted to share that because this is 119 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:17,359 Speaker 1: literally why we are doing this is a lot of 120 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:23,040 Speaker 1: things have become skewed, and it his impacted us as therapists, 121 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:25,920 Speaker 1: and it also is impacting like y'all, just like the 122 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:30,479 Speaker 1: consumer of therapy or just like anybody who which we 123 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 1: all do because we're all connected to mental health, but 124 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 1: struggles with any kind of mental health diagnosis where we're 125 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 1: reducing the stigma, but sometimes in the wrong way. And 126 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 1: what a lot of people think bipolar is it has 127 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:46,280 Speaker 1: nothing to do with what you are thinking. So if 128 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 1: you haven't listened that episode, please go do that. My 129 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 1: hope is for this podcast always to be a help, 130 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 1: and I think now we need help with some clarification. 131 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:58,360 Speaker 1: So that's what we're trying to do so we can 132 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:02,159 Speaker 1: better understand ourselves and the around us. Although we are 133 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 1: bound to mess up from time to time, we're still 134 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 1: allowed to give ourselves grace in those spaces. Now to 135 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 1: this week's question, and again these remain anonymous. So here 136 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 1: does Hey, kat, I don't really know how to start 137 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 1: this email, so I'm just going to jump right in. 138 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:21,240 Speaker 1: I have recently discovered that my boyfriend of two years 139 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 1: is Slash, has been cheating on me. I had been 140 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 1: suspecting something was up, and so I asked him a 141 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago if anything was wrong, and he 142 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 1: just said, no, everything's fine, and I was being anxious. 143 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 1: I love him and I want to be with him, 144 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 1: so even though I had reasons for my suspicion, I 145 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 1: let it go for a little bit. Then a couple 146 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 1: of days ago, I went through his phone and found 147 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 1: d MS between him and another girl who he continuously 148 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 1: referred to as baby. And I don't even want to 149 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 1: get into what the tech said, because they made me 150 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 1: physically sick. My dilemma is now that I know he 151 00:07:57,680 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 1: was cheating, but I found out by being just on 152 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 1: us myself, should I confront him with what I found? 153 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 1: Or do I just ask if everything's okay again? I 154 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 1: know that therapists can sometimes tell when people are aligned, 155 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 1: so I didn't know if you had any tips or 156 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 1: tricks for getting people to admit the truth. Thanks so 157 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 1: much for your help in advance. Okay, so one, I 158 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 1: am so sorry that this happened to you. This has 159 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 1: to be really tough one just taking in that news 160 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 1: and then also deciding like what do I do now? 161 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 1: So when it comes to your question, I am curious 162 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:33,320 Speaker 1: what your motives are. Are you trying to stay with 163 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 1: him or you trying to break up with him? That is, 164 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 1: as I was reading your question at the end something 165 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 1: that came up for me. If you're ready to leave 166 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 1: the relationship, then it really doesn't matter how you found 167 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:49,560 Speaker 1: the information, And anyone who turns this background on you 168 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 1: and makes you out to be the bad guy for 169 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 1: finding the infidelity is being manipulative in a bad way. 170 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 1: You going through his phone, in my humble opinion, is 171 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 1: really irrelevant. He's been cheating on you, So if you 172 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:10,080 Speaker 1: are ready to end this relationship. I want to let 173 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 1: you know that you don't have to keep any of 174 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:16,080 Speaker 1: this and what you did a secret. You can just 175 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 1: tell him that you found it. You don't like how 176 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 1: you're being treated, and you no longer want to be 177 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 1: in a relationship where to actually get the truth you 178 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 1: have to actually go do a lot of digging yourself, 179 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 1: and you can't just ask your partner now if you're 180 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 1: trying to stay with him, I kind of understand, if 181 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:34,960 Speaker 1: my assumptions are correct, why you would want him to 182 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 1: admit it instead of you tell him that you went 183 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:40,440 Speaker 1: through his phone. It sounds like you might not want 184 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 1: him to get mad at you, and you don't want 185 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 1: him to then not trust you. However, if you do 186 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:48,080 Speaker 1: want to stay with him and you don't want to 187 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:50,439 Speaker 1: tell him that you went through his phone, then you're 188 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 1: creating this continuum of dysfunction by being dishonest yourself while 189 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 1: staying in the relationship. And healthy save relationships, we can 190 00:09:57,280 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 1: talk about our missteps and our shortcomings with in our 191 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 1: humility right as humans. We will mess up because we 192 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 1: are human, and that's part of the condition, and there 193 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 1: is space for grace in that However, there are boundaries 194 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 1: within that, and going through someone's phone seems very different 195 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 1: to me than than cheating. Although I am not want 196 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 1: to say that you cannot reconcile relationship after infidelity. UM 197 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:22,560 Speaker 1: many people do that and it works for them, and 198 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 1: many people say I don't want to do that. That's 199 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 1: really up to you. So I think the question right 200 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 1: here that I really would offer back to you is 201 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:31,719 Speaker 1: am I trying to stay with this person? Or am 202 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:35,200 Speaker 1: I trying to create space and leave this relationship? That's 203 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:39,080 Speaker 1: the more important question rather than how do I tell 204 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 1: him that I found this? Do I kind of manipulate 205 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:45,440 Speaker 1: him into telling me? Or do I just show up 206 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 1: and be honest with him of how I found it? 207 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 1: Because that relate to me is like what's the same 208 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:54,840 Speaker 1: small potatoes when it comes to like what you actually 209 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 1: want to do with your relationship and if you do 210 00:10:56,640 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 1: want to create a relationship where you can trust each 211 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 1: other and continue to work on that even though there 212 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 1: has been some things that have broken that maybe on 213 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 1: both sides. Because you know, I don't know the history, 214 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:08,559 Speaker 1: I don't know the details. I don't really know much 215 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:11,079 Speaker 1: about your relationship at all. I know the bare bones 216 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 1: so again, what I'm offering you is the how you 217 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:16,720 Speaker 1: tell him or how you get him to tell you 218 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:19,320 Speaker 1: is less of the issue than what is it that 219 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:22,439 Speaker 1: you you want now, and you don't have to manipulate 220 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 1: your way into getting that. So if you do want 221 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 1: to stay with him, I would go forth with honesty. 222 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 1: If you don't want to stay with him, go forth 223 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:35,440 Speaker 1: with honesty. And again, I'm so sorry. I do really 224 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 1: imagine there is some like most like we can't think 225 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:41,720 Speaker 1: clearly in these spaces because um, it's so much emotion 226 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 1: at once, and I'm sure this is just a really 227 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:46,319 Speaker 1: tough time for you. So I hope that you also 228 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:48,840 Speaker 1: have some support and some community around you that you 229 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 1: can lean on and maybe get some support of feedback 230 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:55,200 Speaker 1: in some way that is going to do it. For 231 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 1: today's episode of Couch Talks again, stay tuned next Monday 232 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:01,960 Speaker 1: for the second part of the JP Sachs interview. I'm 233 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 1: excited for you to hear the rest of it. We 234 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:08,960 Speaker 1: get into some masculinity stuff and stuff about more stuff 235 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:12,320 Speaker 1: about protection and relationships, and yeah, I'm just excited for 236 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 1: you to hear it again. And honestly, I want to 237 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:16,840 Speaker 1: hear it again because he had some really awesome things 238 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:19,080 Speaker 1: to say, so I hope you are having the week, 239 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 1: the day, the moment, the year that you need to have. 240 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 1: I will talk to you guys on Monday. Bye.