WEBVTT - Lil' Mo 0:00:01.960 --> 0:00:13.080 And money. We all take out. We are the authority 0:00:13.760 --> 0:00:21.280 on all things R and B and money. Ladies and gentlemen, 0:00:21.280 --> 0:00:24.880 what's going on? I am tanking and this is the 0:00:25.040 --> 0:00:28.400 R and B Money Podcast, the authority on all things. 0:00:29.240 --> 0:00:36.880 Who you know? You were talking about R and B 0:00:37.360 --> 0:00:40.360 in the trenches. What I'm saying when it was only 0:00:40.640 --> 0:00:43.080 two R and B artists on the bill and the 0:00:43.159 --> 0:00:51.360 rest was rappers. Was in the deep South South Carolina, 0:00:52.080 --> 0:00:57.840 Bill too below gains Bill, Florida. We was in the 0:00:57.960 --> 0:01:04.240 trenches to get the My little sister, my loved one 0:01:04.440 --> 0:01:07.520 around the way. Yeah, you understand what I'm saying. Please 0:01:07.560 --> 0:01:10.320 give it up. She's so accomplished, so many things. We'll 0:01:10.319 --> 0:01:18.280 get to all that. Yeah, you up appreciate you will remember, 0:01:18.440 --> 0:01:21.000 are you kidding? Like people don't remember? Like I was 0:01:21.040 --> 0:01:24.200 doing shows, Oh my god, we're rappers, so we would 0:01:24.200 --> 0:01:28.280 have to I was singing songs like Ballance and having 0:01:28.360 --> 0:01:29.640 to walk out the club with the mic in my 0:01:29.640 --> 0:01:32.080 hand because they will start shooting and fighting. Absolutely, That's 0:01:32.360 --> 0:01:35.600 that's that's where we came from. They could never survive. 0:01:36.640 --> 0:01:38.640 It would be just me and you. I would look 0:01:38.640 --> 0:01:41.680 at the field and there would be miracle c murder 0:01:42.240 --> 0:01:48.320 and yeah, thank a little more. So wait, wait, so 0:01:48.360 --> 0:01:51.400 are y'all the original trap? So I think we are 0:01:52.320 --> 0:01:57.160 real shout out to But I'm sure Bryson Tiller never 0:01:57.160 --> 0:01:59.400 had to walk out of the club after singing a 0:01:59.520 --> 0:02:04.280 ballot It too gunshots listen. I had been almost booed 0:02:04.640 --> 0:02:07.640 on some of these all trap shows. What they are like, 0:02:07.920 --> 0:02:11.440 who is this nigger with the baby along? You know 0:02:11.440 --> 0:02:19.320 what I'm saying. But you were I was crazy and 0:02:19.440 --> 0:02:23.720 milk character. Because when you could perform at any arena, 0:02:23.840 --> 0:02:26.239 especially the ones that you at least expected to get 0:02:26.280 --> 0:02:29.760 around of applause, that's when you know you do well. 0:02:29.800 --> 0:02:31.920 Here's the other thing, too, is that you you of 0:02:31.960 --> 0:02:35.480 course started there, and when when I was coming along 0:02:35.520 --> 0:02:38.360 you you were already had you were already on hit records. 0:02:38.960 --> 0:02:41.760 So when I when I when I came in on 0:02:42.160 --> 0:02:44.560 those shows with you, that was me trying to get 0:02:44.560 --> 0:02:47.919 my records played. But so you were like you were, 0:02:48.080 --> 0:02:51.720 you were you were already kind of tried improving before 0:02:51.760 --> 0:02:53.360 I got there, because you were going on after You're 0:02:53.360 --> 0:02:54.960 gonna after me, right, you know what I'm saying. So 0:02:55.080 --> 0:02:58.080 when your songs came on, it was it was up. 0:02:58.120 --> 0:03:00.200 But you were. You still had to work your way 0:03:00.240 --> 0:03:03.640 into that space, right for sure. But when I saw you, 0:03:04.040 --> 0:03:06.400 you was cooking, and I was like, I was like 0:03:06.400 --> 0:03:09.480 there on some R and B pol when I saw 0:03:09.520 --> 0:03:12.200 you on the bill or when I would see your name, 0:03:12.320 --> 0:03:14.360 even to this day, I was like, at least I 0:03:14.400 --> 0:03:17.480 know with somebody on here that's can really sing, because 0:03:18.280 --> 0:03:21.799 there's that. That's how we got No, it's it's kind 0:03:21.800 --> 0:03:25.160 of shape, but that's how that's that's that's what you did. 0:03:25.360 --> 0:03:31.320 That's how that's shape, no shade, right, yeah, but that's 0:03:31.320 --> 0:03:34.200 how we got our record deals. You know what I'm saying, 0:03:34.200 --> 0:03:36.800 even even even down to Jay like it wasn't it 0:03:36.960 --> 0:03:39.480 wasn't no fluff like JA could dance. You know what 0:03:39.480 --> 0:03:41.720 I'm saying, there's there's that he could dance, right, I 0:03:41.840 --> 0:03:45.320 got to you know what I'm saying, I'm dancing in 0:03:45.400 --> 0:03:49.440 my first video you were, I was fallout choreography because 0:03:49.440 --> 0:03:51.120 we were all, you know, we fell with cameras came out. 0:03:51.160 --> 0:03:53.280 We were talking about things that could have stopped. You 0:03:53.360 --> 0:03:56.680 could have stopped you know, the progression yea of taking 0:03:56.720 --> 0:04:00.600 little mo. Yeah, and he almost stopped his progression with dancing. No, 0:04:00.640 --> 0:04:02.600 but the main thing that would have stopped all this 0:04:02.680 --> 0:04:04.760 ship No, no, no is if he would have kept 0:04:04.760 --> 0:04:06.600 trying to wrap. No, I wasn't trying. First of all, 0:04:06.760 --> 0:04:08.560 shout out to michaelid in the build. My brother kame 0:04:08.600 --> 0:04:16.320 crossing brother, who knows my rap pedigree? It out, who 0:04:16.320 --> 0:04:18.800 knows my rap pedigree? Okay, they were clean wraps. I 0:04:18.800 --> 0:04:23.440 was a church kid. What was your name? MC Hurricane? Really? Yeah? Okay, 0:04:23.440 --> 0:04:25.520 so the wait where you like you were like bringing 0:04:25.560 --> 0:04:28.800 the rain? I was, I was bringing the thunder and 0:04:28.880 --> 0:04:32.159 the thunder was this? Was this biblical? Because biblical? You 0:04:32.160 --> 0:04:36.839 were a church rap? I would wrap street ish You 0:04:36.880 --> 0:04:39.560 know how you watch remember how you watched the box 0:04:39.960 --> 0:04:42.640 and all the dirty songs that were changed and had 0:04:42.680 --> 0:04:48.479 the radio. What's crazy is I started out rapping too, 0:04:49.080 --> 0:04:50.920 because like my first time being on the rod was 0:04:50.920 --> 0:04:52.919 with my uncle John P. King. So while I was 0:04:52.920 --> 0:05:00.520 in high school, don't I went into some gangses. I 0:05:00.560 --> 0:05:06.320 ain't kidding, y'allen, Like when I used to turn them 0:05:06.320 --> 0:05:09.520 guns into his shirt. We'll bring to this church, let's 0:05:09.520 --> 0:05:11.800 start there. But I used to wrap as well, and 0:05:11.839 --> 0:05:14.560 I tried to do gospel rap, but I had that 0:05:14.680 --> 0:05:16.760 stree edge because I grew up in church where he 0:05:16.880 --> 0:05:19.320 told me one day when I was like fifteen years old, 0:05:20.040 --> 0:05:24.320 he was like, I think you should sing because not 0:05:24.520 --> 0:05:26.279 there's nothing wrong with your rapping, but I think you 0:05:26.279 --> 0:05:32.120 should sing because you'll last longer. He never lied. That's crazy, right, 0:05:32.839 --> 0:05:37.719 So like literally twenty nine years later, yeah, that way. 0:05:37.160 --> 0:05:45.960 I I stayed rapping, yeah, until until my tenth grade 0:05:46.400 --> 0:05:49.880 in high school because I was I was battling everybody 0:05:50.279 --> 0:05:52.200 and me too, and I was I was, I was. 0:05:52.320 --> 0:05:55.440 I was a battle rapper. So and one in English class. 0:05:55.440 --> 0:05:57.359 Our teacher in English class used to always let me 0:05:57.400 --> 0:06:00.760 in this other kid battle for like a little credit, right, 0:06:01.360 --> 0:06:04.080 and so I would I would kill him, right, I 0:06:04.080 --> 0:06:07.680 would just go eddie. And one day he was like, 0:06:08.160 --> 0:06:09.720 you know I can beat you. I was like, you 0:06:09.720 --> 0:06:12.680 haven't beat me yet, he said, he said, because when 0:06:12.720 --> 0:06:15.279 I'm rapping, I'm you know, I'm just I'm being lyrical, 0:06:15.360 --> 0:06:16.920 like I'm you know what I'm saying. He's like, when 0:06:16.920 --> 0:06:19.520 you're rapping, like you're actually battle rapping, like you're you're 0:06:19.560 --> 0:06:21.960 talking about me. I haven't even talked about you yet, 0:06:22.360 --> 0:06:23.479 you know what I'm saying. And I was like, I 0:06:23.520 --> 0:06:25.920 was like, yeah, I hear you, but let's get to it. 0:06:26.880 --> 0:06:36.080 And so having a philosophy, yeah listen. And so we 0:06:36.160 --> 0:06:39.040 got to the class and he went first and he 0:06:39.120 --> 0:06:45.080 did his rap, and he he rapped so good, but 0:06:45.160 --> 0:06:49.920 he was actually rapping about me this time. And remember 0:06:49.920 --> 0:06:53.560 you watched eight miles and and what was his name 0:06:53.640 --> 0:06:57.360 with Papa Doc who was supposed to go last after Eminem. Yeah, 0:06:58.120 --> 0:07:02.839 well he Eminem me massacre. His rap was so crazy 0:07:02.960 --> 0:07:06.240 and there was so many uz and os and so 0:07:06.400 --> 0:07:14.680 many ohs. I was like, this rapping, this rapping, gonna 0:07:14.680 --> 0:07:19.840 do it crazy man, what's this nigger's name? He's not. 0:07:21.800 --> 0:07:25.880 He works up. We have to thank you. I don't 0:07:25.880 --> 0:07:27.760 know your name. So he reached out to you and 0:07:27.840 --> 0:07:29.480 be like you are crushed you in the tip break 0:07:30.440 --> 0:07:34.960 he probably is now aside from him crushing tank, crushing 0:07:35.040 --> 0:07:40.680 DJ hurricane whatever hurricane he was. Yeah, we would we 0:07:40.720 --> 0:07:43.120 would personally like to thank you in the R and 0:07:43.120 --> 0:07:46.960 B world for destroying this man's rap career so that 0:07:47.000 --> 0:07:50.240 he didn't do that foolishness. Man, I was good. So 0:07:50.280 --> 0:07:54.840 he saved the rhyme about you for last. You might 0:07:54.880 --> 0:07:58.840 have said he had never he had never rapped about me. 0:07:59.400 --> 0:08:01.880 It was all ways about how good he was and 0:08:02.000 --> 0:08:04.600 metaphors and all that, you know what I'm saying. But 0:08:04.640 --> 0:08:06.760 and I was like, you know, I'm going to more 0:08:06.760 --> 0:08:08.320 to all the street in it I'm talking about it's 0:08:08.320 --> 0:08:11.280 closed like I'm going. He's like, I've never rapped about you. 0:08:11.520 --> 0:08:18.600 I was like, rap about me. So that's why I'm 0:08:18.600 --> 0:08:22.520 you know, but that's what getting to songwriting, which you 0:08:22.600 --> 0:08:27.480 do very well. I think us being rappers, you know 0:08:27.520 --> 0:08:30.560 what I'm saying, and being lyricists is why we were, 0:08:30.560 --> 0:08:35.760 why we are able to put these songs together and 0:08:35.800 --> 0:08:39.240 put these words together the way we do. Not only 0:08:39.280 --> 0:08:42.600 did honestly growing up in the church help you, I 0:08:42.640 --> 0:08:45.720 think it helped me. I don't play you play like 0:08:45.760 --> 0:08:48.040 a hundred instruments. I can't play just like a little 0:08:48.040 --> 0:08:50.000 bit of shower music on the drums and that's about it. 0:08:50.280 --> 0:08:54.040 I can just shout music. That's it. That's it. And 0:08:54.080 --> 0:08:57.800 I think it helped with like melody and stuff like 0:08:57.960 --> 0:09:00.000 you know, don't before you go there, Before you go there, 0:09:01.120 --> 0:09:03.280 we like to start at the beginning. We are very 0:09:03.360 --> 0:09:05.720 very informative. I could like to start at the beginning 0:09:05.720 --> 0:09:07.960 because you already threw out the John P. Keeper which 0:09:08.520 --> 0:09:17.079 super Super shout out to in the tenth grade. I 0:09:17.160 --> 0:09:19.880 see what today is gonna be the death of m 0:09:21.640 --> 0:09:25.719 You didn't tell shoot I was my name was. At 0:09:25.720 --> 0:09:31.400 first I was Sassy c Yeah yeah in church, in 0:09:31.559 --> 0:09:37.040 church church, and then I would know for city, See 0:09:37.240 --> 0:09:39.720 everybody had those names. And then I was young Wisdom. 0:09:39.800 --> 0:09:43.320 I went through this whole phase of yeah, young wisdom. 0:09:43.360 --> 0:09:45.720 I was like I went through the shade joined brand 0:09:45.760 --> 0:09:50.520 new thing that I was like everybody used to be 0:09:50.520 --> 0:09:54.280 a five per center. I used to hang with the 0:09:56.320 --> 0:10:03.120 no young wisdom and then after that, honestly, John Picky 0:10:03.240 --> 0:10:05.240 gave me the name little Mo because my last name 0:10:05.280 --> 0:10:07.640 is loving, so he used to call me mony for 0:10:07.640 --> 0:10:10.960 some of my reason. Yeah, and then he just stopped 0:10:10.960 --> 0:10:16.800 on me. That just stuff. And my friend was just 0:10:16.840 --> 0:10:18.719 like my fir Renee because I was. We used to 0:10:18.800 --> 0:10:23.160 drive from Fayetteville to Charlotte every Wednesday for rehearsal three 0:10:23.160 --> 0:10:25.040 hours there at three hours bait. So I would get 0:10:25.040 --> 0:10:27.079 out of school, drive to Charlotte to rehearse. Then my 0:10:27.120 --> 0:10:29.160 dad would bring me back on Friday so we could 0:10:29.200 --> 0:10:31.320 go on touring the weekend, and then he would pick 0:10:31.320 --> 0:10:33.560 me back up on Sunday. So it was just like 0:10:36.640 --> 0:10:41.840 it did. Okay, when did you know when did somebody 0:10:41.880 --> 0:10:47.760 tell you? When did the first church congregation say that 0:10:47.920 --> 0:10:53.240 baby got it? Honestly, where I used to sing songs 0:10:53.240 --> 0:10:54.640 in church, I was like four or five, and the 0:10:54.679 --> 0:10:56.280 first song I lafed was I think it was about 0:10:56.280 --> 0:10:59.520 a Clark sisters. What a difference it makes. So I 0:10:59.600 --> 0:11:02.320 was too, I'm gonna be singing those grown songs. But 0:11:03.080 --> 0:11:04.720 when I started saying with John, he was the one 0:11:04.760 --> 0:11:07.360 that told me you got something because I started rabbits. 0:11:07.679 --> 0:11:12.000 That was like in ninety one. Shoot, I was in 0:11:12.080 --> 0:11:17.000 tiph grade, ninth tiph grade. That was the first time, Yeah, 0:11:17.760 --> 0:11:20.160 you got something special. Yeah, So people always said that 0:11:20.200 --> 0:11:22.200 I was, you know, gifted. I had a gift because 0:11:22.200 --> 0:11:24.600 I was saying all the adult songs because he lives 0:11:24.920 --> 0:11:30.240 all the grown songs as a child director. Yeah, because 0:11:30.280 --> 0:11:32.560 it was like when you seven, when you five years old, 0:11:32.760 --> 0:11:34.839 when I was in the world, I didn't have a 0:11:34.920 --> 0:11:37.360 gut on my side. You five years old, talk about 0:11:37.360 --> 0:11:41.080 when I was in the world, when you was outside 0:11:41.080 --> 0:11:50.360 the junior choir, sc gave me your song like it's that. 0:11:50.679 --> 0:11:52.480 But then when you get up to the young adult quire, 0:11:52.880 --> 0:11:56.760 then you can start singing a difference it makes when 0:11:56.840 --> 0:12:03.160 y'all walk the So this is like that. So what 0:12:03.280 --> 0:12:06.120 happens in gospel is like a portion of the Bible 0:12:06.160 --> 0:12:08.960 when Jesus goes from this from one age and he 0:12:09.000 --> 0:12:15.319 comes back he was up the world. Yeah, I'm just 0:12:15.360 --> 0:12:20.480 trying to listen. Honestly, that that age of thirteen that's 0:12:20.559 --> 0:12:23.400 really pivotal, and a lot of people's like this. Honestly, 0:12:24.040 --> 0:12:27.520 that's the age of honestly what they call it accountability, 0:12:27.559 --> 0:12:29.400 but that's also the age that when you're trying to 0:12:29.400 --> 0:12:31.760 find yourself. So that would be the age when I 0:12:31.800 --> 0:12:33.360 was just like, Okay, this is what I wanted to do. 0:12:33.400 --> 0:12:35.440 I always want to ramp. But I was just like 0:12:35.480 --> 0:12:38.720 once my uncle told me at fifteen, sing you'll last longer. 0:12:39.240 --> 0:12:41.160 At first, you know, I tried my son does it 0:12:41.320 --> 0:12:43.440 to me? He's thirteen, and I'm like, yo, you should sing. 0:12:43.600 --> 0:12:46.560 He was like, nobody wants to hear that anymore. So 0:12:46.800 --> 0:12:49.800 I'm just like, yes, they did. You really don't understand 0:12:50.120 --> 0:12:52.840 that's what touches the heart. I'm not saying that rap doesn't, 0:12:53.160 --> 0:12:56.080 but it's just something about a melody. It's just something 0:12:56.120 --> 0:12:59.680 about tone. It's just something about that type of connection 0:13:00.040 --> 0:13:04.400 that just hit different. So it's just like, yeah, something, 0:13:04.520 --> 0:13:07.079 but now they don't really talk about love. They talk 0:13:07.120 --> 0:13:11.840 about love, but it's in such a different way. So honestly, 0:13:12.120 --> 0:13:16.040 that's crazy. I've never wrote a hate song in my life. 0:13:16.600 --> 0:13:21.760 Mm hmm. No, none, toxic. I remade a toxic song, 0:13:21.880 --> 0:13:25.320 remade Shirley Murdock husband, and that was like toxic. But 0:13:25.320 --> 0:13:30.800 it was State Church that was the first. Yeah, everything 0:13:30.840 --> 0:13:36.280 was exciting and I had things in my life. Yeah, okay, 0:13:36.280 --> 0:13:38.160 So you want to rote with John Kid? How long? 0:13:38.240 --> 0:13:40.679 How long were you out with father John? For like 0:13:40.800 --> 0:13:45.679 two years? And then after that once I'm I started 0:13:45.720 --> 0:13:50.160 out with low Kid? Was there? Was there? So I say? 0:13:50.720 --> 0:13:56.000 And I was next to name? Okay, so it was 0:13:56.040 --> 0:14:00.640 a musician. Cool played the drums, Eric Bryce Shu's play guitar, 0:14:00.840 --> 0:14:02.760 and it was another John used to play the bass 0:14:02.760 --> 0:14:05.680 like I was there. Yeah, right after I was there 0:14:05.679 --> 0:14:10.320 for show Up. So I came there with show Up. Yes, 0:14:11.000 --> 0:14:13.760 you used to be the kid waiting on y'all in 0:14:13.760 --> 0:14:16.319 in d C. When he would do the V I P. Conventions, 0:14:16.559 --> 0:14:18.720 I'd be the kid waiting and I don't play basketball 0:14:18.800 --> 0:14:24.760 with him? Yes, a ya he used to be so lit. 0:14:24.960 --> 0:14:27.120 The best part, and this is what I learned so 0:14:27.200 --> 0:14:29.760 much from my uncle is just like now I understand 0:14:30.320 --> 0:14:34.280 the for our gospel artist. Everybody on stage were just like, 0:14:34.360 --> 0:14:36.160 the music is jammen. But when he would come out 0:14:36.200 --> 0:14:38.440 and slide on stage and the keyboar will be ready, 0:14:38.560 --> 0:14:42.720 the people would go because he was like he was like, 0:14:44.400 --> 0:14:46.960 because he did the R and B, did a stinton, 0:14:47.040 --> 0:14:54.840 cameo hello, right, yes, came right, so absolutely yeah. So 0:14:55.600 --> 0:14:59.240 his approach to gospel music was totally was a completely 0:14:59.280 --> 0:15:02.080 different pot it like it was like it was it 0:15:02.160 --> 0:15:05.760 was something we had never seen before. The structure of it, 0:15:06.040 --> 0:15:08.480 how solid it was like yo'all could do something like 0:15:08.520 --> 0:15:11.800 this and everybody knew where to go. Or he'd make 0:15:11.840 --> 0:15:15.400 a noise and everybody's yeah, it wasn't it was. We 0:15:15.400 --> 0:15:17.560 was like, so we're watching the band on this side. 0:15:17.600 --> 0:15:19.880 You had a band corner, when the band when where 0:15:19.920 --> 0:15:23.040 the band set up. There were eighty musicians from that 0:15:23.200 --> 0:15:26.600 single sitting on the side like this, and then you 0:15:26.680 --> 0:15:28.440 got the congregation watching the whole thing. You got the 0:15:28.480 --> 0:15:31.800 singers all through the day. But it was ill. The 0:15:31.880 --> 0:15:36.360 music was the phrases, but put together music rehearsals. Yeah, 0:15:36.720 --> 0:15:38.280 I did the V I was. I was part of 0:15:38.320 --> 0:15:40.920 the v I p Chuire Wednesday rehearsals that I used 0:15:40.920 --> 0:15:44.760 to go to. People like it was almost like a concert. 0:15:45.200 --> 0:15:46.600 He would come and have like a little bit of 0:15:46.600 --> 0:15:50.560 Bible study and literally from like six pm two two 0:15:50.560 --> 0:15:52.840 in the morning now would have school the next day. 0:15:53.240 --> 0:15:55.000 He would write songs right there. He was like, all right, y'all, 0:15:55.000 --> 0:15:56.560 gotta learn this right now. I was I'm gonna give 0:15:56.560 --> 0:15:58.040 it to you know what, saying, awesome, gonna get this 0:15:58.120 --> 0:16:00.600 so on up. He would literally write song on the spot. 0:16:00.600 --> 0:16:03.680 And that's I learned so much from him and he 0:16:03.960 --> 0:16:06.320 because he played, he would like make you go to 0:16:06.680 --> 0:16:09.400 and they would go. It was like how did they know? 0:16:09.520 --> 0:16:13.120 But he had that. He was the first person I 0:16:13.160 --> 0:16:18.280 saw sing and not miss and I didn't. I don't 0:16:18.320 --> 0:16:21.000 know how we can talk about We don't talk about 0:16:21.000 --> 0:16:24.680 that enough. We don't. We don't. That's a gift in 0:16:24.680 --> 0:16:27.200 itself he did. Even if you're not obviously John p 0:16:27.320 --> 0:16:30.080 Kids is amazing. But even if you're just a good 0:16:30.120 --> 0:16:32.960 singer and you don't miss, that's that's still something very 0:16:33.000 --> 0:16:39.160 special to prepare yourself to to honor your gift because 0:16:39.200 --> 0:16:41.480 everybody don't honor their gift. We do a lot of 0:16:41.560 --> 0:16:44.280 things that go against what you're supposed to be doing 0:16:44.640 --> 0:16:55.600 to take I might have been on the other side 0:16:55.640 --> 0:17:05.800 of you know, I might have been on the no. 0:17:05.960 --> 0:17:08.880 But that's but that's something that that that should be 0:17:10.320 --> 0:17:17.320 spotlight when someone doesn't miss those type of artist's every night. Yes, 0:17:18.240 --> 0:17:20.399 you would never know if he was sick, if he 0:17:20.480 --> 0:17:23.680 was tired, if he was like you would never know 0:17:23.760 --> 0:17:28.000 because any time he hit that stage, he would give 0:17:28.000 --> 0:17:31.280 it his all. And you know, like now they say, well, 0:17:31.280 --> 0:17:33.680 what time I go on from nine to nine thirty, 0:17:34.080 --> 0:17:42.120 he'll get up there, and especially especially when he does 0:17:42.600 --> 0:17:44.359 what I used to love too, and I learned a 0:17:44.359 --> 0:17:46.240 lot of that too, is like then I try to 0:17:46.240 --> 0:17:48.159 think people come to his consoles just to see if 0:17:48.200 --> 0:17:50.480 he was gonna get him money. He would literally from 0:17:50.520 --> 0:17:52.760 his heart be like he would look at somebody like 0:17:52.760 --> 0:17:55.600 come in for a second, because like, what's your rent? Sheila? 0:17:56.560 --> 0:18:00.240 Uh we we recipes to her, Jeanette, you're renting what 0:18:00.359 --> 0:18:04.439 he pay So when I when I when I may 0:18:04.760 --> 0:18:07.200 pay for that. I got that from John pick Wow. 0:18:07.920 --> 0:18:10.400 I took that from him. That's that's who I learned 0:18:10.400 --> 0:18:14.000 how to tip from and that's how you forever we 0:18:14.080 --> 0:18:17.080 used to go to eye and eat after the concerts. Yes, 0:18:17.200 --> 0:18:22.080 I will watch him give hundreds of dollars too, And 0:18:22.200 --> 0:18:23.479 I mean it would be a bunch of us. Think 0:18:23.480 --> 0:18:27.399 if a thousand dollars didn't matter to whoever was waiting 0:18:27.400 --> 0:18:31.920 on us? Are you giving him so much money? He 0:18:31.960 --> 0:18:35.280 don't like this bad who just always take care of people, 0:18:35.280 --> 0:18:37.479 to take care of you always? Always first person? Ever 0:18:37.480 --> 0:18:39.119 seen that? So I learned that from him at the 0:18:39.119 --> 0:18:41.320 concerts giving away money. I want to bless you. You 0:18:41.320 --> 0:18:42.840 look like you need a blessing. How much is this? 0:18:43.359 --> 0:18:45.879 How much does that give her? That she get her that? 0:18:45.880 --> 0:18:51.320 That's that's why I learned it from. Yeah, he's gonna 0:18:51.359 --> 0:18:53.399 love this. I can't wait to tell him. Be like, 0:18:53.480 --> 0:18:57.720 you don't realize how much? Even on down to when 0:18:57.760 --> 0:19:00.480 I started working with Missy, she was like, wait, John, 0:19:00.800 --> 0:19:04.080 like do you like people just did it again? But 0:19:04.200 --> 0:19:17.880 I just you just threw out another gone to Missy 0:19:18.000 --> 0:19:22.560 that way like I was looking back, Okay, none of them. 0:19:22.600 --> 0:19:25.639 Don't you stop? You stopped this? Okay, we need information. 0:19:25.920 --> 0:19:35.679 She's so used to leave you you How do you 0:19:35.720 --> 0:19:39.240 go from John p Key to Missy, how does that happen? 0:19:39.280 --> 0:19:42.760 What's the interview before? Before Missy? I actually toured with 0:19:43.280 --> 0:19:46.160 Guru rest in peace to him. I did jazz matazz 0:19:46.280 --> 0:19:48.440 because I think at that time in Dia Dad report 0:19:49.000 --> 0:19:51.600 she couldn't go. So I was singing her part. How 0:19:51.600 --> 0:19:55.480 did you get that? I? Um, well, my cousin. She 0:19:55.680 --> 0:19:58.800 was married to Gary, who is DJ Premiers half brother. 0:19:59.320 --> 0:20:02.040 He I was living in North Carolina. Like when I say, 0:20:02.240 --> 0:20:05.880 God whatever, he typed down the rope down for me 0:20:06.000 --> 0:20:09.359 before I got here. He was in his bad and 0:20:09.400 --> 0:20:12.800 I never understood it till now because I never had 0:20:12.800 --> 0:20:15.240 the audition. People just took their word for it. So 0:20:15.720 --> 0:20:18.000 they took me to Guru's house. He used to live 0:20:18.040 --> 0:20:21.480 like right and like Elmhurst, right between Queens and Long Island. 0:20:21.920 --> 0:20:24.000 So my aunt lived in Queens. So I was like, 0:20:24.040 --> 0:20:26.240 if I get this gig, then I can stay with 0:20:26.280 --> 0:20:29.760 my aunt. And I wind up going singing his eyes 0:20:29.760 --> 0:20:32.280 on the Sparrow and Gurgle's living room. He was like, so, yeah, 0:20:32.280 --> 0:20:34.399 they're gonna call you tomorrow and we're gonna get you. 0:20:34.560 --> 0:20:36.639 Do you have a passport? I was like no, but 0:20:36.760 --> 0:20:39.760 my dad drove me up there from North Carolina. He's 0:20:39.840 --> 0:20:42.240 always been my driver, not the fire in one time. 0:20:42.320 --> 0:20:46.160 We'll talk about that later. But like I just always 0:20:46.560 --> 0:20:48.600 I never had the really audition. All I had to 0:20:48.600 --> 0:20:53.320 do was show up and I always got the job. Okay, 0:20:54.720 --> 0:20:57.240 you did the whole United States and the whole and 0:20:57.240 --> 0:20:59.879 then the overseas. So mind you, I'm just getting out 0:20:59.920 --> 0:21:03.239 of high school and you getting paid, Yes, you get 0:21:03.359 --> 0:21:05.320 real money to do this. And I was just like, 0:21:05.640 --> 0:21:07.879 so I'm thinking, I'm just going for the experience. And 0:21:07.880 --> 0:21:09.120 I was like, well, this is how much you're gonna 0:21:09.119 --> 0:21:17.000 get paid this, And I was like, and tours that 0:21:17.040 --> 0:21:21.240 are already established, so it wasn't like care of Yeah, 0:21:21.359 --> 0:21:23.639 Like I'm like, for damn, this is more than I 0:21:23.720 --> 0:21:28.040 get job, working a job or anything. Before you caught 0:21:28.040 --> 0:21:31.080 this kid, I never had a job like. I've never 0:21:31.080 --> 0:21:33.840 felt out an application in my life. I wanted to 0:21:33.840 --> 0:21:35.760 feel out one because I was living on four break 0:21:35.800 --> 0:21:37.960 and I wanted to work at Wendy's. But then I 0:21:37.960 --> 0:21:39.439 was like, I'm not gonna be able to do that 0:21:39.960 --> 0:21:44.680 because I used to breed everybody here. And one time, really, yeah, 0:21:44.880 --> 0:21:46.600 I thought I was gonna get a job. How old 0:21:46.800 --> 0:21:49.160 would you like a teenager because they made everybody else. 0:21:50.440 --> 0:21:52.760 I was like sixteen seventeen. I was just like, you 0:21:52.800 --> 0:21:56.840 know what, I like clothes. Listen, I'm tired of selling. 0:22:00.000 --> 0:22:11.000 I say, I wasn't avoiding dope. I've seen something earlier 0:22:11.000 --> 0:22:13.320 when they said just do it online said, I've ever 0:22:13.400 --> 0:22:15.399 stopped taking crump with up money because he opened it 0:22:15.440 --> 0:22:17.399 up and half of it was a dollar, half of 0:22:17.480 --> 0:22:33.760 it was a twenty drug. Trust me. My stent with 0:22:33.920 --> 0:22:37.639 jobs were I had. I wanted to get some clothes 0:22:38.080 --> 0:22:41.080 during Christmas time, so I went and worked at the 0:22:41.080 --> 0:22:44.040 oak Tree for like two months before he wrapped about 0:22:44.040 --> 0:22:46.600 the tree he did ever have? He wrapped it. Yeah, 0:22:46.720 --> 0:22:48.440 I was working at Utrey. When you get the whole 0:22:48.440 --> 0:22:51.119 suit for ninety nine plus your shirt and time, that 0:22:51.240 --> 0:22:56.840 was how pack That was me? And then I put 0:22:56.880 --> 0:22:59.439 it with a Vsati tie and some kind of cold shoes, 0:22:59.520 --> 0:23:02.600 dressed that up, dressed that things so anyway. And then 0:23:02.720 --> 0:23:05.439 my second stint at a job, I'm so I'm so 0:23:05.520 --> 0:23:14.879 mad that Mike Lidy let you wear that high school listen. 0:23:15.119 --> 0:23:19.119 And then from Oaktree I went to uh I had. 0:23:19.240 --> 0:23:21.560 I had a job at a parcel plus where we 0:23:21.640 --> 0:23:23.760 used to make coves and deliver the mail and all 0:23:23.760 --> 0:23:27.600 that stuff, right, and so I sent off I sent 0:23:27.680 --> 0:23:35.400 off the first and one mixed blueprints. It is mixed. 0:23:36.200 --> 0:23:41.879 It was I remember all the plans for the for 0:23:41.920 --> 0:23:43.879 the shoes, I mean, the shirts and all of that 0:23:43.920 --> 0:23:48.119 stuff I sent. I sent those off to to whoever 0:23:48.160 --> 0:23:50.159 they ended up doing the deal with to get out. 0:23:50.280 --> 0:23:51.960 I sent those off. That's like my claim to fame 0:23:52.000 --> 0:23:54.879 my ship though. And he guy was from Maryland. So 0:23:55.040 --> 0:23:56.639 I did that, and then I did that for like 0:23:56.680 --> 0:23:59.680 about three months. And you know why I got fired? 0:24:00.040 --> 0:24:02.840 Oh you know why I got fired? Let me think 0:24:02.960 --> 0:24:05.880 what could I can't even think like why, I'm gonna 0:24:05.920 --> 0:24:09.360 tell you why I got fired? Yeah, Pastor John p Key, 0:24:09.520 --> 0:24:12.240 what happened you, hug out? I stayed out all night 0:24:13.080 --> 0:24:16.560 with the church with John v Key playing basketball and 0:24:16.600 --> 0:24:22.960 eating that I hoped, and I woke up late because 0:24:22.960 --> 0:24:24.800 I was supposed to open the store. It was like 0:24:24.880 --> 0:24:27.439 my third or fourth time being so listen. So what 0:24:27.560 --> 0:24:30.800 this comes out to is John p Key was the 0:24:30.840 --> 0:24:34.560 reason for both of y'all. R and B music got 0:24:34.600 --> 0:24:41.880 you fired And told Sassy see over here, this ain't 0:24:41.880 --> 0:24:51.040 gonna work, Sassy, see little wisdom whatever, shut out whatever 0:24:51.119 --> 0:24:56.760 you want. I don't know what look here? Uh you 0:24:56.800 --> 0:25:00.400 need to sing? Yeah? Last key was you know he'll 0:25:00.560 --> 0:25:06.240 you back to everything? So checks um seeing the world? Yeah, 0:25:06.240 --> 0:25:10.280 seeing the world. How do you get to missy so Um? 0:25:10.640 --> 0:25:13.560 I remember coming back. I had started hair school because 0:25:13.600 --> 0:25:17.040 the tour was over, and I was like, let me 0:25:17.080 --> 0:25:19.040 just go do here because I didn't know if the 0:25:19.119 --> 0:25:20.840 music thing was gonna work out or not. And I 0:25:20.920 --> 0:25:22.639 was still too young to get him. Do you remember 0:25:22.720 --> 0:25:26.040 Neils in New York? That was like everybody used to 0:25:26.119 --> 0:25:30.000 go uh and saying it was like an open mic. 0:25:30.359 --> 0:25:32.560 That's why I used to go. So I was sneaking 0:25:32.680 --> 0:25:35.560 because I wasn't twenty one, but I was sneaking. I 0:25:35.560 --> 0:25:38.080 would see like call Thomas. They was like Maria Curry 0:25:38.119 --> 0:25:48.200 gonna be Kelly Price and Maria Curry because I was like, wait, 0:25:48.240 --> 0:25:51.639 who named my name? So I was like they were 0:25:51.680 --> 0:25:54.400 like these persons deep people are gonna be there and 0:25:54.560 --> 0:25:57.000 what was what's his name? Ron Grant used to have 0:25:57.080 --> 0:25:59.280 an open mic t and I remember I was like, 0:25:59.320 --> 0:26:01.639 one night, I want to sing at these and I 0:26:01.680 --> 0:26:03.720 went and I signed up and they didn't ask me 0:26:03.760 --> 0:26:05.199 for I d because the people I would go it 0:26:05.280 --> 0:26:08.159 was always grown. I always always thought I was grown, 0:26:08.240 --> 0:26:14.040 for like I always honed with grown people. And I said, 0:26:14.080 --> 0:26:20.440 but I but I sang uh Lauren hillsong Um, killing 0:26:20.440 --> 0:26:23.440 me softly, and I killed it. And then after that 0:26:23.520 --> 0:26:25.360 people like, yo, you should do something. I was like, dag, 0:26:25.480 --> 0:26:28.840 my uncle was right, but I was. This was after 0:26:28.840 --> 0:26:30.280 I came off tour, so I was doing R and 0:26:30.320 --> 0:26:32.239 B and if I used to feel so convicted, like, 0:26:32.320 --> 0:26:34.800 oh my god, I'm hell here, I'm singing this secular music. 0:26:34.840 --> 0:26:37.040 I'm a burn with the devil. I always thought I 0:26:37.040 --> 0:26:38.560 was gonna burn with the devil. That's what kept me 0:26:38.600 --> 0:26:40.959 from it. But then I realized I was like, wait, 0:26:41.840 --> 0:26:44.439 people still love me, so I'm gonna do this. So 0:26:44.480 --> 0:26:47.119 I had started working with like producers and stuff, writing 0:26:47.160 --> 0:26:51.320 songs and referencing songs, and for some of my reasons, 0:26:51.359 --> 0:26:54.119 some of my references got to Missy and I was 0:26:54.240 --> 0:26:56.679 in the mall and Green Neck is mall, getting just 0:26:56.680 --> 0:26:58.800 finished getting my nails, and that's when we had beepers. 0:26:59.440 --> 0:27:02.160 So I had moved to New York. I was living 0:27:02.200 --> 0:27:04.959 in Queens, so going down there in school and just 0:27:05.040 --> 0:27:07.240 like going to open mics and just trying to make 0:27:07.240 --> 0:27:13.640 a name for myself and Merlin Bob had yeah, well 0:27:13.760 --> 0:27:17.760 ron ron was his um his uh his, he had 0:27:17.800 --> 0:27:22.240 two assistance that So I remember getting a beeping whenever 0:27:22.280 --> 0:27:25.399 said two on two. That meant money, child, that mean money. 0:27:25.920 --> 0:27:29.080 So I called her back and he was like, Maryland, 0:27:29.119 --> 0:27:31.440 want to speak to you, and I was like for real, 0:27:31.920 --> 0:27:34.200 and so he was like, yeah, Missy um Elliot wants 0:27:34.200 --> 0:27:36.200 you to call I'm like out of here, Missy don't 0:27:36.200 --> 0:27:38.480 want me to call her like this, like I'm at 0:27:38.480 --> 0:27:41.840 the mall. Want you to call her? And I was like, 0:27:41.960 --> 0:27:45.399 no freaking way. Hold on the second, I remember putting 0:27:45.400 --> 0:27:48.040 the pay phone down because that's when the drug deals 0:27:48.080 --> 0:27:50.840 had all the bag phones and them phone bills us 0:27:50.840 --> 0:27:53.320 to be high. So I found a piece of paper 0:27:53.320 --> 0:27:55.359 and the pencil and I said, what's her number? And 0:27:55.400 --> 0:27:57.240 I had I remember having a phone like this, write 0:27:57.240 --> 0:27:58.920 her number down. I called her right then and there, 0:27:59.359 --> 0:28:01.680 and she must have been in probably a Lamborghinia song, 0:28:01.960 --> 0:28:03.840 and she was like hold on, hold on. She had 0:28:03.840 --> 0:28:05.840 a car phone. I was like, hey, what's up this 0:28:05.920 --> 0:28:08.520 little moe. I try to sound like like like I 0:28:08.560 --> 0:28:15.000 was talking, what is this a certain voice? It's like Yo, 0:28:15.040 --> 0:28:19.119 what's up. I remember. I was like, yeah, what's up 0:28:19.119 --> 0:28:21.159 this little moment Merlin Bob told me to call you. 0:28:21.200 --> 0:28:23.040 She was like, hold on, hold on, hold on. Malik 0:28:23.119 --> 0:28:25.040 turned down the music because that's when remember Malik that 0:28:25.119 --> 0:28:27.719 used to dance with her by her So he was like, 0:28:27.760 --> 0:28:37.520 she's like turning out the song perfect because it was 0:28:37.600 --> 0:28:40.520 so so prathetic. But now I get it, Like that's 0:28:40.520 --> 0:28:42.520 really how it feel like. It feel like a movie. 0:28:42.880 --> 0:28:45.280 But it was just like she was like, Yo, your 0:28:45.360 --> 0:28:48.640 voice is dope, Like, Yo, can you come to the 0:28:48.640 --> 0:28:51.320 city today. I was like, let me check my palm pilot. Yep, 0:28:51.440 --> 0:28:53.920 I'll be there. And I remember going to the city 0:28:54.160 --> 0:28:57.040 and when I met her and we were the same height. 0:28:58.160 --> 0:29:02.560 He's like, I didn't even have to talk talk and 0:29:02.600 --> 0:29:09.360 then the rest was literally history. Like from there, I 0:29:09.440 --> 0:29:12.479 sang Whitney Houston saving All My Love for You, and 0:29:13.520 --> 0:29:15.360 she she didn't tell me Whitney was coming to the 0:29:15.360 --> 0:29:22.240 studio that day. What yeah, not that same day. It 0:29:22.320 --> 0:29:25.000 was like months after. So I would reference Mry would 0:29:25.000 --> 0:29:26.840 write this song. She was like, reference something, you know 0:29:26.840 --> 0:29:28.640 what I'm saying. So I would be I was like, 0:29:28.640 --> 0:29:30.040 do you want me to sing all over she was like, 0:29:30.120 --> 0:29:33.280 do your thing, because that's gonna make you know people. 0:29:36.640 --> 0:29:38.600 So I remember sitting in the studio and then all 0:29:38.640 --> 0:29:41.640 of a sudden, like Whitney Houston walks and I'm like Jesus, 0:29:42.360 --> 0:29:46.200 like no, no, like this is not happening it. So 0:29:46.280 --> 0:29:50.280 I just remember just like Whitney coming up to me 0:29:50.280 --> 0:29:53.160 because the song she wrote, Yes m Mr. It was 0:29:53.160 --> 0:29:55.680 called yes, and I referenced it. Whitney like hugged me. 0:29:55.720 --> 0:29:58.640 It was just like, you know, ahmost like she was 0:29:58.640 --> 0:30:00.160 so hyped up. Then she made me go in the 0:30:00.240 --> 0:30:02.840 booth for her and vocal produce it. I was like, 0:30:02.880 --> 0:30:06.080 how do you tell the greatest freaking voice of the 0:30:06.120 --> 0:30:08.520 world that had all the church girls want to sing 0:30:08.600 --> 0:30:12.560 secular music with some annointing. I'm standing in the booth 0:30:12.560 --> 0:30:14.320 when we can use My throat is so dry because 0:30:14.320 --> 0:30:20.920 I'm nervous. She gave me a fisherman's friend, a fisherman's friends. Yeah, 0:30:28.320 --> 0:30:31.120 how you ready at least in your mind your mind, yeah, 0:30:31.600 --> 0:30:34.280 not knowing that there was really ain't for sables. But 0:30:34.360 --> 0:30:39.120 it was like that's I meant with like everybody everybody? 0:30:39.280 --> 0:30:41.240 Is that how you ended up getting your record deal? 0:30:42.040 --> 0:30:45.000 Or so? Yeah, how long are you with Missy? I 0:30:45.080 --> 0:30:47.880 was with like, literally, point, you're doing You're you're doing 0:30:48.600 --> 0:30:52.400 working session work, session work, just so for the people 0:30:52.440 --> 0:30:54.680 who don't know, this is the process for you. So 0:30:54.760 --> 0:30:57.040 you go on to her first with Guru, do you 0:30:57.200 --> 0:31:02.280 link up with Missy when Missy is an amazing producer, 0:31:02.480 --> 0:31:06.480 songwriter outside of big an artist, but her vision so 0:31:06.040 --> 0:31:11.000 with so with Missy, now you in a sense on staff, Yeah, 0:31:11.400 --> 0:31:14.880 you're doing her demos for Yeah, but she sing too, 0:31:15.080 --> 0:31:19.160 of course, like no, she sings to like but a 0:31:19.200 --> 0:31:23.760 lot of people wanted to harmonies because she comes from 0:31:23.840 --> 0:31:26.880 that Joe to see. So we were stacking now you 0:31:26.920 --> 0:31:30.600 could do ye comes from the basement, So we were 0:31:30.640 --> 0:31:36.000 sa we were stacking vocals. That's where we came from, 0:31:36.040 --> 0:31:38.320 the stacking vocals days. So she taught me so much 0:31:38.360 --> 0:31:41.320 because I didn't know studio work. I was. So that's 0:31:41.320 --> 0:31:44.560 when I learned that, you know, outside singing live and 0:31:44.600 --> 0:31:47.120 studio is totally different. I hate being the studio. I 0:31:47.160 --> 0:31:50.040 feel closeterrophobic. I feel like my ideas don't come like 0:31:50.200 --> 0:31:52.520 don't come to life. So I was glad that I 0:31:52.560 --> 0:31:54.479 had her skeleton there and then I could take it 0:31:54.960 --> 0:31:57.240 to next level because Hot Boys was just her and 0:31:57.280 --> 0:31:59.640 then I sang with it. So now she let me 0:32:00.040 --> 0:32:03.480 ring that church ad lives, which people you ain't gotta 0:32:03.520 --> 0:32:10.480 do all that. Let me get busy where how long? 0:32:10.800 --> 0:32:16.680 How long? Were like? Okay? So I had my deal, 0:32:17.200 --> 0:32:19.080 I was signed to a lecture. But it was just 0:32:19.120 --> 0:32:20.600 like I was working with Missy. I was just like, 0:32:20.680 --> 0:32:24.920 I don't need I want, Yeah, I don't even really 0:32:24.920 --> 0:32:27.880 wanna did nothing. And all the songs that I was picking, 0:32:28.560 --> 0:32:30.320 and you know, all the songs that they were picking, 0:32:30.360 --> 0:32:31.680 that's what I did to that. I was working with 0:32:31.720 --> 0:32:34.080 Montell Jordan and them, so they would pick a songs. 0:32:34.120 --> 0:32:36.080 I was like, I don't think them like, these songs 0:32:36.080 --> 0:32:39.320 are great, but I don't think it's gonna translate too. 0:32:39.920 --> 0:32:44.120 I had tattoos, gold teeth at the time, braids, so 0:32:44.160 --> 0:32:47.080 I looked like a rapper, but I sang like a 0:32:47.160 --> 0:32:49.240 church girl, so you feel me. I was trying to 0:32:49.240 --> 0:32:55.480 blend those both worlds. So just like Missy taught me, 0:32:55.560 --> 0:32:58.560 just like, just don't settle for nothing. Be who you are. 0:32:59.040 --> 0:33:01.040 And that's how I about the gate. She was like, 0:33:01.320 --> 0:33:08.040 these niggas got money charge him. Yeah, so to get 0:33:08.040 --> 0:33:10.360 me to show up to vocal radets. That's a word, 0:33:11.000 --> 0:33:23.360 the charge him, charge him sore nigga mm hmm. And 0:33:23.520 --> 0:33:26.440 so that like I learned the game earlier. It's totally 0:33:26.520 --> 0:33:29.200 a blessing because I didn't have to go through with 0:33:29.320 --> 0:33:32.000 a manager that so me and more like I'm cool 0:33:32.040 --> 0:33:35.040 with everybody, but I always got to deal directly with 0:33:35.560 --> 0:33:41.160 the source. And so really that taught me everything I know. 0:33:41.840 --> 0:33:49.560 So first hit record, um, they was coming back to back. 0:33:49.880 --> 0:33:53.160 It's not super Woman, oh by myself here, but like 0:33:53.480 --> 0:33:59.520 I was doing like hot boars hoos, didn't put it 0:33:59.600 --> 0:34:02.560 on me and then I cried, like but I recorded, 0:34:02.600 --> 0:34:04.880 I cried before I didn't put it on me. Child. 0:34:05.160 --> 0:34:07.120 It was like so much stuff is going back to 0:34:07.160 --> 0:34:10.879 back to back, So those records would be four super Yes. 0:34:11.680 --> 0:34:14.719 Why did I not know? That's why people like I 0:34:14.800 --> 0:34:16.080 love you from the nineties, I said, I don't know 0:34:16.080 --> 0:34:17.239 why you love it for the nine becase a bit 0:34:17.360 --> 0:34:19.400 wasn't out. I was all other people records in the nineties. 0:34:19.560 --> 0:34:23.560 But would you did your first come out? I got 0:34:24.320 --> 0:34:27.360 I think, oh one, your first single came out. Superwoman 0:34:27.440 --> 0:34:31.200 came out two one, okay, so we are yeah, yeah, 0:34:31.640 --> 0:34:34.239 or like two thousand two thousand one, because you know 0:34:34.320 --> 0:34:36.040 what me was out in like ninety n like we 0:34:36.160 --> 0:34:38.640 just celebrated like annivers I'm like, yeah, this sounds older 0:34:38.680 --> 0:34:42.960 than MATUREY really are because I solo, our solo careers 0:34:43.000 --> 0:34:45.880 mirror then, but you was already active. But you want 0:34:45.960 --> 0:34:49.160 to know, I was singing backgrounds. I didn't have no 0:34:49.280 --> 0:34:51.719 music out, none at all, but that's what I was 0:34:51.800 --> 0:34:57.080 doing too, had records on. You had like but c is, 0:34:57.080 --> 0:34:59.200 I still didn't think I'm mattered, So it didn't count 0:34:59.239 --> 0:35:06.880 to me telling you out watching watching all the videos 0:35:06.960 --> 0:35:10.279 that he was cracking you. I appreciate that because like 0:35:10.400 --> 0:35:12.120 to me, it was just like dad, I still got 0:35:12.160 --> 0:35:17.120 more work to do. But like tour with Missy, that's 0:35:17.160 --> 0:35:20.359 when I got to tour with literally everybody every day 0:35:20.440 --> 0:35:23.440 being with Aaliyah like that, those kind of things, I'm 0:35:23.520 --> 0:35:26.879 just like, nobody will ever have that opportunity. Those were 0:35:27.320 --> 0:35:30.200 We're doing jay Leno and then going doing tour like 0:35:30.880 --> 0:35:33.279 she Missy stayed on tour for years, so it just 0:35:33.400 --> 0:35:37.400 used to be so dope just to see her in 0:35:37.480 --> 0:35:40.760 her element and she's so shot. So once she's done performance, 0:35:40.960 --> 0:35:43.680 she leaving, I'm just like dag like I really get 0:35:43.760 --> 0:35:47.000 to live the life. I really got to live the life. 0:35:47.120 --> 0:35:49.480 So you were kind of like Charlie Murphy, Eddie Murphy, 0:35:49.840 --> 0:35:55.080 like Eddie Murphy, every Murphy went home and she had 0:35:55.120 --> 0:36:00.800 to leave what you need? Yeah, basketball, ye know for 0:36:00.880 --> 0:36:07.520 real outside. Yeah, like that was a blessing. I'm a superwoman. 0:36:09.160 --> 0:36:13.520 I always noticed that it says super woman too. Yeah, 0:36:14.360 --> 0:36:20.480 we're Superwoman one. So super Woman? How did that go? Yeah? Well? Sup? 0:36:21.239 --> 0:36:24.920 The no people have been asking me that because recently 0:36:24.960 --> 0:36:27.279 it's been added to streaming site, so nobody knew for 0:36:27.480 --> 0:36:32.959 years that there was a part one only yeah, because 0:36:33.000 --> 0:36:35.720 they just thought that They thought it was Cura White. 0:36:35.760 --> 0:36:38.080 So it was just like, so, why wouldn't have leave 0:36:38.920 --> 0:36:41.320 the part two? Part one? Part one? Part one was 0:36:42.040 --> 0:36:46.200 brand conson. That's when he was walking. Yeah. Yeah, and 0:36:46.280 --> 0:36:48.800 they told us the song was too cocky. It was 0:36:48.880 --> 0:36:50.480 two because I was like, you ain't got to look 0:36:50.600 --> 0:36:52.960 Jermaine was the one who I was like, yo, you 0:36:53.719 --> 0:36:55.279 like you kill it. I was like, you ain't got 0:36:55.360 --> 0:36:57.120 to look up in the sky for a bird or 0:36:57.160 --> 0:36:59.399 a plane. You're looking for a change, and I'm saving 0:36:59.480 --> 0:37:03.840 your Head's got the s on my chest. Summer soup boom, 0:37:04.719 --> 0:37:15.000 you ain't gotta look up in the sky for heard. 0:37:16.440 --> 0:37:18.640 But it was like, remember that Beantie single beat Stopped, 0:37:18.880 --> 0:37:22.200 Don't Chill? We used that for beat. Cox put keys 0:37:22.239 --> 0:37:26.120 on it, so it was like it was too cocky, 0:37:27.400 --> 0:37:28.920 So that was called super Wan. We thought it was 0:37:28.960 --> 0:37:31.880 gonna be a problem with Carol White Superwoman because then 0:37:31.920 --> 0:37:34.360 the titles and then registering it. So I was like, 0:37:34.400 --> 0:37:36.640 all I bet I was in l A. There was 0:37:36.719 --> 0:37:40.239 remember when DreamWorks had the labels. There was an artist 0:37:40.320 --> 0:37:43.040 named Canela Cox and I was boke o producing on 0:37:43.200 --> 0:37:45.160 her songs and she was done. She had two hours 0:37:45.280 --> 0:37:47.560 left on her session and I was like me and 0:37:47.640 --> 0:37:49.200 my manager at the time, Loria, I was like, we 0:37:49.360 --> 0:37:52.000 might as well used this time. Clue had left a 0:37:52.120 --> 0:37:55.799 beat and he was like, if you get this song, Clue, yeah, 0:37:56.120 --> 0:37:57.840 DJ Clue di super Woman part one. So there was 0:37:58.080 --> 0:38:01.160 wasn't part too excuse me, there wasn't even no keys 0:38:01.200 --> 0:38:05.480 on it. It was just so what I did was 0:38:06.280 --> 0:38:16.200 I smoked me some weed and I never heard nobody body. Um. 0:38:17.239 --> 0:38:19.160 I smoked some weet and I went in there and 0:38:19.280 --> 0:38:21.920 I say Superwoman down because I was so used to 0:38:22.000 --> 0:38:25.240 Missy teach me do your vocals different ways each chorus. 0:38:25.640 --> 0:38:27.279 So when I found out we could fly vo because 0:38:27.280 --> 0:38:28.920 I was like, fly because we don't have much time 0:38:29.040 --> 0:38:31.560 left and we have to get it out of still 0:38:31.719 --> 0:38:34.279 somebody's session. Yeah okay, So and I didn't want to 0:38:34.360 --> 0:38:44.520 label to find out, so Traino was I think her biggs. 0:38:54.000 --> 0:38:55.600 He was like, Yo, they got some money over here. 0:38:55.840 --> 0:39:00.480 We used to give like them check Out checks d 0:39:01.480 --> 0:39:06.520 and and Cherry Ross checks always hit different. Let me 0:39:06.560 --> 0:39:14.120 tell you. Jason Joshua, the amazing mixed master guy, the 0:39:14.280 --> 0:39:19.240 mix sologists, Yeah, was at one point and DreamWorks really 0:39:19.520 --> 0:39:23.160 had to see song structure too. While he was, Yo, 0:39:24.040 --> 0:39:26.960 what do you mean the hook? So you know what? Yeah, 0:39:27.160 --> 0:39:30.480 how do you have this job? I think at that 0:39:30.520 --> 0:39:32.520 time they PARBT was just hiring black people. So like, 0:39:32.800 --> 0:39:40.560 well that listen, I believe that. I believe that people 0:39:40.600 --> 0:39:46.840 putting people in position. Yeah I love you brother, absolutely. Okay, 0:39:46.880 --> 0:39:50.480 So you so you still her session? You do Superwoman too? 0:39:50.760 --> 0:39:53.120 So because this was the other thing that, like you 0:39:53.200 --> 0:39:56.560 said that that first that first sound that kicks in, 0:39:58.560 --> 0:40:01.759 they were multiple songs for you that in my mind, 0:40:01.880 --> 0:40:04.840 I was like, they sounds like get old video games. 0:40:05.960 --> 0:40:11.239 It sounds to me like if if a nigga said 0:40:11.440 --> 0:40:15.759 this is how super Mario sounds, but then you would 0:40:15.800 --> 0:40:19.200 come on seeing church. So just imagine, imagine there was 0:40:19.280 --> 0:40:24.160 no keys, no strings, no baseline. It's just so I 0:40:24.320 --> 0:40:30.800 literally no drums. It was just that was it. That 0:40:30.960 --> 0:40:32.600 was it. So I sang it all the way down. 0:40:32.640 --> 0:40:34.640 When it got to the bridge, I had to You 0:40:34.719 --> 0:40:36.680 could probably hear it, like if you go back you 0:40:36.760 --> 0:40:38.480 can hear. I had to do. I said, drop the 0:40:38.560 --> 0:40:41.359 music out right here, and so I said every day 0:40:41.960 --> 0:40:47.840 I love you in us fair show a chicken. So 0:40:48.280 --> 0:40:50.839 I literally save off my snap and now I don't 0:40:50.880 --> 0:40:53.000 know play when I second like that, and then added 0:40:53.040 --> 0:40:55.520 the backgrounds. So when they finally got in with the 0:40:55.800 --> 0:40:58.680 with the additional keys and program at people, they played 0:40:58.680 --> 0:41:02.160 around it. So it's really he goes a little secret, 0:41:02.200 --> 0:41:04.960 it's really not on. I always sing off time and 0:41:05.200 --> 0:41:12.280 but be on time. You get it, so it's likely, 0:41:13.440 --> 0:41:17.920 but it's always always. It's just so I was like 0:41:18.080 --> 0:41:19.719 the person. I was just like, I know I sing 0:41:19.840 --> 0:41:24.800 off b but it's like it's a bob. You told me, 0:41:25.000 --> 0:41:27.480 and I'm gonna tell you. Gave me a copy one 0:41:27.600 --> 0:41:29.120 day and I think I probably went back in the 0:41:29.200 --> 0:41:31.120 big and cry because I was like, damn, Like when 0:41:31.160 --> 0:41:33.480 you notice people that really sing and really do this. 0:41:33.840 --> 0:41:37.479 We was at d night show in Atlanta. You was like, Sis, 0:41:37.760 --> 0:41:39.719 You've been one of the only people that can sing 0:41:39.840 --> 0:41:43.440 with tempo and I was just like, I never thought 0:41:43.480 --> 0:41:48.560 anybody noticed. He was like and stick like you feel 0:41:48.600 --> 0:41:52.320 me sing though you was like sing with not like 0:41:53.480 --> 0:41:56.000 dance around and you know what I'm saying and dumb 0:41:56.040 --> 0:41:59.040 it down. You've actually been able to actually sing a 0:41:59.239 --> 0:42:02.319 real vocal. That's a blessing. And so to hear someone 0:42:02.480 --> 0:42:05.759 noticed that, be like, Yo, how do he know? Because 0:42:05.800 --> 0:42:08.239 people don't be knowing because I wanted someone too so 0:42:08.400 --> 0:42:12.320 bad but I couldn't. I couldn't figure out the science 0:42:12.400 --> 0:42:15.560 on it. But you know crazy, It's like then I'll 0:42:15.600 --> 0:42:17.239 listen to your song and I'm like, like, how do 0:42:17.360 --> 0:42:19.800 you know? And I was like, God, I thank you 0:42:19.880 --> 0:42:22.160 for the gifts you have given me without repentance, and 0:42:22.239 --> 0:42:24.319 the talents that you have given me. But I wish 0:42:24.400 --> 0:42:26.040 I could play because if I could play, I was like, 0:42:26.080 --> 0:42:31.200 I killed all of these bitches that girl I know, 0:42:31.400 --> 0:42:39.880 God say like crazy and before I arrest it. But 0:42:39.960 --> 0:42:41.520 it was just like I used to always feel like 0:42:41.600 --> 0:42:43.920 if I could play then then they will really be 0:42:44.000 --> 0:42:46.400 able to get it. But then I realized my voice 0:42:46.480 --> 0:42:48.560 is my instrument, and if they get it, they get it. 0:42:48.640 --> 0:42:50.480 If they don't, they'll get it later. And now a 0:42:50.560 --> 0:42:53.759 lot of people and you and you like you have 0:42:54.040 --> 0:42:57.560 songs that I mean, you know this when they come 0:42:57.600 --> 0:43:03.360 on this is yeah, they lose their mind, like the 0:43:03.920 --> 0:43:06.440 we do R and B Club when we went headliner 0:43:06.440 --> 0:43:09.680 and Mike Gardening them in in Miami. Your songs are 0:43:09.760 --> 0:43:13.840 played there semi videos and I'd be like, yo, this 0:43:14.080 --> 0:43:16.759 is like, how do they still? But then you know 0:43:16.880 --> 0:43:19.600 what what my angels says, not what you say or 0:43:19.640 --> 0:43:22.360 what you do, is how you make people feel. And 0:43:22.440 --> 0:43:24.560 I always realized a lot of these people were in 0:43:24.800 --> 0:43:27.680 elementary school and junior high running home to watch one 0:43:27.719 --> 0:43:31.400 O six in part they remember that, and so now 0:43:31.480 --> 0:43:33.920 that they're growing, were like, you all remember running home 0:43:33.960 --> 0:43:35.719 and ask my moment, can I get them color hairs? 0:43:35.840 --> 0:43:37.200 And they don't know what I used to have to 0:43:37.280 --> 0:43:39.920 go through to be able to get the blue hair, 0:43:40.239 --> 0:43:42.359 to be able to wear those colors. Yeah, we don't 0:43:42.360 --> 0:43:44.520 want you to scare the consumer, because you know, it's 0:43:44.560 --> 0:43:53.120 like another meeting remember the meetings, and he used to 0:43:53.280 --> 0:43:55.400 to tell them like, y'all don't get it, and they 0:43:55.440 --> 0:43:57.640 will be like, who then do you think he is? 0:43:58.120 --> 0:44:03.440 Because you're Christmas brother? That wow? But okay, now we 0:44:03.600 --> 0:44:08.480 see what they got now, the same tattoos all in 0:44:08.560 --> 0:44:13.000 their mouth. I just have to hide my tattoos. I 0:44:13.080 --> 0:44:15.120 just have to hide my tattoos. Still. I was just like, nah, 0:44:15.480 --> 0:44:18.920 you know what you work for me when I saw you, 0:44:19.120 --> 0:44:21.480 and what I still feel when I hear your music. Now, 0:44:22.120 --> 0:44:25.640 there was a time in music when it was very shiny, right. 0:44:25.800 --> 0:44:28.399 It was. It was the puff dad here. Everybody knew 0:44:28.400 --> 0:44:30.520 about it. It was the shiny suits. And then d 0:44:30.680 --> 0:44:35.120 m X came MHM and he made music very aggressive 0:44:35.200 --> 0:44:39.000 and very soulful. People didn't people don't got rested soul. 0:44:39.440 --> 0:44:42.000 People don't mention how soul for d m X is 0:44:42.120 --> 0:44:45.120 music was. You felt it in yourself to this day 0:44:46.000 --> 0:44:50.200 and to this day, they can play a hunted R 0:44:50.280 --> 0:44:53.279 and B songs and then one of yours comes on 0:44:54.200 --> 0:44:58.320 and it's dark and hell is hot. Niggas is getting 0:44:58.440 --> 0:45:02.160 to it when a little mo record plays, Because you 0:45:02.360 --> 0:45:06.040 bring a different type of grit and grind to R 0:45:06.080 --> 0:45:10.040 and B music. That just didn't it didn't exist from 0:45:10.080 --> 0:45:15.440 a female's perspective. It's so aggressive when it comes on. 0:45:15.600 --> 0:45:18.440 It's like we went when we were just in Miami. 0:45:18.560 --> 0:45:22.200 We were all in Miami together having a good time. Man, 0:45:22.400 --> 0:45:29.120 I had so much fun. I is, y'all don't understand 0:45:29.239 --> 0:45:32.040 how much fun I had so looking big. My sister 0:45:32.160 --> 0:45:34.480 was like, bet you was. I said, I came from 0:45:34.520 --> 0:45:38.200 a very dark place. So the pandemic was a blessing 0:45:38.280 --> 0:45:41.480 for me, so to be able to get out and 0:45:41.600 --> 0:45:44.279 to enjoy and to let my hand down so I 0:45:44.320 --> 0:45:46.160 can sing on stage and will be when I get 0:45:46.200 --> 0:45:50.359 to be like, say, because I've seen you on stage 0:45:50.400 --> 0:45:53.160 and I'm like saying, but when I get to be 0:45:53.280 --> 0:45:59.600 like I need to be a fan fan so family, 0:46:00.000 --> 0:46:03.400 But I'm a question because you got a yeah, and 0:46:03.480 --> 0:46:06.520 when and when that record dropped, when they dropped your 0:46:06.600 --> 0:46:11.200 record at the end, it's just like it was like yo, mom, 0:46:11.400 --> 0:46:12.800 Like people say to me, They was like, mo, you 0:46:12.960 --> 0:46:14.520 was fool and it was like, yo, you seem like 0:46:14.600 --> 0:46:16.960 you loved I said, I did you had a ball? 0:46:17.040 --> 0:46:19.480 You have the same question like nine times? Yeah, And 0:46:19.560 --> 0:46:23.839 I still want to ask you that question today. She asked, 0:46:24.680 --> 0:46:28.239 don't you gotta ask him, Yeah, I done with you, 0:46:37.680 --> 0:46:40.200 but yes, you know, speaking of your music and your 0:46:40.280 --> 0:46:42.560 past and the things that you had to go through 0:46:42.920 --> 0:46:47.239 in this industry that looked at female R and B 0:46:47.840 --> 0:46:50.960 in a certain light, it was very light seeing it's 0:46:51.080 --> 0:46:53.319 very soft. It was you know what I mean, that's 0:46:53.360 --> 0:46:57.240 just let's just be real. It was it wasn't those tattoos. 0:46:57.239 --> 0:46:58.920 If you had tattoos, you was putting some clothes over 0:46:58.960 --> 0:47:02.600 those tattoos. There were things that that in this business 0:47:03.080 --> 0:47:06.320 from a female R and B perspective, just weren't accepted. 0:47:06.960 --> 0:47:10.200 It was just like, that just doesn't work for the consumer, 0:47:11.280 --> 0:47:14.600 when in reality, these motherfucker's didn't even really know the consumer. 0:47:15.239 --> 0:47:20.480 They were so far removed from who outside was and is. 0:47:20.840 --> 0:47:23.120 They were not outside. And you want to know what's 0:47:23.120 --> 0:47:26.320 crazy is once I got outside and I learned from myself, 0:47:26.840 --> 0:47:28.239 I found out I was just like, why am I 0:47:28.320 --> 0:47:29.960 big in the bay earlier? Why are we talking about 0:47:29.960 --> 0:47:31.920 come out with these girls? Was like, yo, one of 0:47:32.040 --> 0:47:34.920 my big in the trenches is because I look like 0:47:35.560 --> 0:47:38.960 they can look like me. Yeah, I'm from the band. 0:47:39.440 --> 0:47:41.200 You want to know what crazy is? When I go 0:47:41.320 --> 0:47:45.040 out there, the love I wouldn't already know because I 0:47:45.239 --> 0:47:48.040 was like around when the East Coast and West Coast, 0:47:48.239 --> 0:47:50.279 like I was around that time, So it was just 0:47:50.360 --> 0:47:51.799 like if you came out here, do your work, get 0:47:51.840 --> 0:47:54.480 your home, you fear me. So then you went out 0:47:56.600 --> 0:48:02.919 different summer jams or something like it to this day. 0:48:03.920 --> 0:48:05.680 To this day, I was out there a couple of 0:48:05.719 --> 0:48:08.800 weeks ago. They had um I forgot what they call it, 0:48:08.920 --> 0:48:14.319 but it was Bobby D Presents, Me, Ashanti, Nellie Yang 0:48:14.360 --> 0:48:19.560 Yang Twins, little john A, Marie. Everybody was there and 0:48:19.600 --> 0:48:21.880 so I'm thinking, who show up to just think that 0:48:22.000 --> 0:48:25.000 they were sold out? And I looked in the crowd 0:48:26.040 --> 0:48:28.520 and what they told us was the consumer. The majority 0:48:28.520 --> 0:48:33.040 of people didn't even look like me. It was all Latina's, 0:48:33.280 --> 0:48:37.399 It was all people, and they were by being yeah. 0:48:38.480 --> 0:48:41.040 So because we did Oakland and on Aryan and I 0:48:41.160 --> 0:48:43.800 was just like now, twenty years ago, they told me 0:48:44.800 --> 0:48:47.120 I wouldn't connect with the consumer. You don't want to 0:48:47.120 --> 0:48:49.640 scare them away. So what they further lets me know 0:48:49.800 --> 0:48:52.200 is that they thought I wouldn't connect with the crossover. 0:48:52.520 --> 0:48:55.279 The records crossed over. Then we broke records. Then we 0:48:55.360 --> 0:48:57.680 broke so many records. Well put it on me that 0:48:57.760 --> 0:48:59.959 they had to retire, and they swore that they were paid, 0:49:00.040 --> 0:49:03.439 and yo, it was a whole thing. I was like, wait, 0:49:03.600 --> 0:49:06.799 who paying for to people called up there. I was like, yo, 0:49:07.040 --> 0:49:08.600 I can't even. There was the time remember when you 0:49:08.680 --> 0:49:12.839 can't even They said that they were paying people. Def 0:49:13.200 --> 0:49:15.960 gotta be paying to have that play that. They was 0:49:16.000 --> 0:49:18.600 like no. People was like no, I really called up 0:49:18.640 --> 0:49:21.080 there and they had us come out there and retire 0:49:21.120 --> 0:49:22.799 the record because there was like, there's no way y'all 0:49:22.800 --> 0:49:27.839 can always be number one? For like I used always wondered, 0:49:27.840 --> 0:49:29.279 I was like, well, what is so big about it? 0:49:29.320 --> 0:49:32.040 Because to be honest, I went there in freestyund everything 0:49:32.160 --> 0:49:34.960 and none of it rhymed. What was so big about it? 0:49:36.640 --> 0:49:40.279 On me? Where would I be without you? Baby? So 0:49:40.480 --> 0:49:43.000 if you need me, if you want me to put 0:49:43.040 --> 0:49:48.080 it on you because I love you, don't you forget 0:49:48.200 --> 0:49:52.279 it Whenever you need me. If you own me to 0:49:52.360 --> 0:49:57.960 put it on you, come on? Where doing rot? That's 0:49:58.400 --> 0:50:00.680 you know? So they'd be like, maybe like you only 0:50:00.719 --> 0:50:02.440 can sing a minute of a song because people lose 0:50:02.480 --> 0:50:05.479 their interest. We can sing that whole song up until 0:50:05.520 --> 0:50:09.200 the come on? Don't you know that? I love you, 0:50:09.760 --> 0:50:12.960 I need you, I want you. I want you to 0:50:12.960 --> 0:50:15.239 put it to the end to the song when you 0:50:15.360 --> 0:50:20.400 hit the record go off, that's a blessing. None of 0:50:20.480 --> 0:50:25.920 it would I be if it won't for your baby, 0:50:27.320 --> 0:50:34.439 because I'm so tired of me long. If it won't, 0:50:34.719 --> 0:50:39.960 none of it rhymes. If it won't to you, that's 0:50:40.000 --> 0:50:49.719 that church. And will won't he will? That was the 0:50:49.800 --> 0:50:52.920 most incorrect English. Or maybe you know what it mean. 0:50:52.960 --> 0:50:57.640 Won't he win? That mean didn't he? Did? He? Ever? Know? What? 0:50:58.239 --> 0:51:08.120 Did he did? Did he not do it? We understood? 0:51:08.600 --> 0:51:12.800 So that comes out before Superwoman. So does that speed 0:51:12.920 --> 0:51:15.480 up the process at a lecture at the time to say, hey, 0:51:16.000 --> 0:51:17.719 we're going with a little more right now, because we 0:51:17.800 --> 0:51:20.320 all know how that ship goes to sign and it's like, 0:51:20.360 --> 0:51:23.919 oh yeah, and they're doing whatever they're doing, but we're 0:51:23.960 --> 0:51:26.720 not really paying that much attention. It didn't speed up anything. 0:51:27.160 --> 0:51:29.399 I had to send that record back to clue they 0:51:30.120 --> 0:51:36.360 wind up literally rushed putting it together. Duro was his partner, 0:51:36.640 --> 0:51:38.560 so the fact that he was an engineer mixing right 0:51:38.560 --> 0:51:40.359 there in there clues to have a thing called Monday 0:51:40.440 --> 0:51:42.799 Night Mixtape in New York and Hot ninety seven back 0:51:42.880 --> 0:51:45.239 then he played it on his show. He made the 0:51:45.320 --> 0:51:47.640 label catch up. He was like, he said, I promise 0:51:47.680 --> 0:51:49.839 you so it's fab on there at the time. Yes, 0:51:50.640 --> 0:51:53.640 because fab as a new artist. Yes, so while we're 0:51:53.640 --> 0:51:55.280 in the studio and once I send it a clue 0:51:55.360 --> 0:51:58.719 because that beat was initially for m O P. Let's 0:51:58.920 --> 0:52:02.439 let's let's start there and would have been talking about 0:52:02.480 --> 0:52:09.359 kidnappings all off Goldeth everywhere. But they was like, who 0:52:09.400 --> 0:52:10.719 you wanna get on it? Because that would be dope 0:52:10.719 --> 0:52:12.640 if you have a rapper. So by that time I 0:52:12.680 --> 0:52:14.359 had already worked at everybody you want to get young, 0:52:14.680 --> 0:52:17.960 get one getting him? You want on it? I was like, yo, 0:52:18.080 --> 0:52:22.000 the boy, I'll be spelling his name or everything spins. Yeah, 0:52:23.200 --> 0:52:25.960 he came. They look called Fabulous Sports, so he's look 0:52:26.000 --> 0:52:30.719 on spis so he comes to the studio him. That's 0:52:30.760 --> 0:52:33.040 when he was with Webb and Chail and I remember 0:52:33.160 --> 0:52:36.120 like they came with yellow bandannas on and chicken boxes 0:52:36.640 --> 0:52:38.840 and he had the next Heil pager like this. So 0:52:38.880 --> 0:52:40.200 I was like, all right, I'm gonna let you do 0:52:40.280 --> 0:52:42.560 your thing. Do you need anything? He was like no, 0:52:42.640 --> 0:52:45.040 I'm good. Just he said, well I add so I 0:52:45.200 --> 0:52:46.799 leave out and I come back. I was like, you done? 0:52:47.600 --> 0:52:49.640 Oh lord, I hope this thing sounds dope. Is the 0:52:49.680 --> 0:52:52.640 Monday night mixtapes he'd be doing, yo, he was like, 0:52:52.719 --> 0:52:54.400 So he said, just let me just let you know. 0:52:54.480 --> 0:52:56.560 I did a little something on the intro just in 0:52:56.640 --> 0:52:58.680 case you could keep whatever, and then I added something 0:52:58.800 --> 0:53:01.480 on the end. So soon as he was like, I 0:53:01.560 --> 0:53:03.680 guess I ain't got no reason to main go around 0:53:03.719 --> 0:53:05.560 what he said. I found a superwoman that could leap 0:53:05.600 --> 0:53:09.200 from the truck. I said, we out of here, and 0:53:09.280 --> 0:53:17.120 I heard his yeah, we are at it by that time, 0:53:17.200 --> 0:53:19.799 because you know music at this point, are you new? 0:53:20.360 --> 0:53:22.640 You know hits? At this point you're around Missy, you 0:53:22.719 --> 0:53:27.040 can I was like, that's it, that's it. So remember 0:53:27.080 --> 0:53:28.720 back then, if you put out a record, the label 0:53:28.800 --> 0:53:31.400 can cease and desisted and stop it. But it was 0:53:31.440 --> 0:53:33.759 getting so much Bird, I've been cease and desisted. I 0:53:33.840 --> 0:53:37.040 have to have you. No. I kind of cease them 0:53:39.280 --> 0:53:48.239 on Shots Fired. Yeah, yeah, yeah, own label because because 0:53:48.239 --> 0:53:51.080 they were trying to get it. Yeah, and they were like, 0:53:51.160 --> 0:53:53.520 your records going to interfere And I was like, what 0:53:54.080 --> 0:53:57.239 do you mean, and now you can put out Yeah, 0:53:57.280 --> 0:53:58.920 we should have we should have stayed with it. But 0:53:59.719 --> 0:54:03.040 you know what what's crazy is is that everything that 0:54:03.200 --> 0:54:06.200 we wasn't allowed to do then doing that, And I'm 0:54:06.239 --> 0:54:16.640 like everything I'm not supposed to do. Yeah, Like I've 0:54:16.760 --> 0:54:19.440 literally I can't feel a hit record I've been around 0:54:19.560 --> 0:54:22.080 because I've been around everybody from the Missies, the Tams, 0:54:22.320 --> 0:54:24.600 j jay Z's, the A And I was like, I 0:54:24.719 --> 0:54:28.480 knew everybody, so I knew what a hit record felt like. 0:54:29.120 --> 0:54:31.279 Damn the Sun because you look for you to pop 0:54:31.400 --> 0:54:35.400 up on a record like Parking Lot. Yeah, and they 0:54:35.440 --> 0:54:37.279 gotta really, they got to really getting his bag to 0:54:37.360 --> 0:54:39.800 understand that little Mo was on Parking Lot then. And 0:54:39.880 --> 0:54:42.759 then Jay call you like yo, because I used to 0:54:42.800 --> 0:54:45.680 think I was his cousin come to the studio. I 0:54:45.800 --> 0:54:48.600 used think I was everybody's cousin, from John Key to 0:54:48.760 --> 0:54:53.120 jay Z. That's crazy, that's crazy. That's insane. It's crazy 0:54:53.200 --> 0:54:56.480 and to him and I want to know, And I 0:54:56.520 --> 0:54:58.879 don't know if people I pay attention to a lot 0:54:59.000 --> 0:55:04.360 of different ship. When you would sing hooks for niggas, 0:55:05.160 --> 0:55:09.160 you wouldn't sing them as a girl. You would sing 0:55:09.320 --> 0:55:12.640 the hook as they would sing the hook, which was 0:55:12.920 --> 0:55:16.920 very odd to me, really like, what's the what's the 0:55:17.000 --> 0:55:20.040 what's the fabi? Um? Can't let you go? Oh yeah, 0:55:20.440 --> 0:55:24.520 well you're singing to the girl with him, but you're 0:55:24.520 --> 0:55:27.799 supposed to be the girl. But parking lot pimping. Yeah, 0:55:28.000 --> 0:55:31.120 you're singing about parking lot pimper like you wanted to. Yo. 0:55:31.239 --> 0:55:41.800 I really I didn't even you know what, I I 0:55:41.840 --> 0:55:44.879 don't even think about that. I just thought about that. Yo, 0:55:46.040 --> 0:55:48.600 that's crazy. You could get me in the woking lot hollydad. 0:55:48.600 --> 0:55:54.200 But just that I think about it, I used to 0:55:54.480 --> 0:55:57.560 want to be big and a nigga so bad because 0:55:57.600 --> 0:56:02.200 you really had to be as Na. So yeah, so 0:56:02.280 --> 0:56:05.480 it was like I like I had to That's a 0:56:05.680 --> 0:56:17.040 great perception. That is crazy. I'm like, really did that? 0:56:18.320 --> 0:56:22.320 Look at whatever this is. I'm buying the whole bottom. 0:56:24.120 --> 0:56:28.480 I none of those this this is a vibe um 0:56:28.840 --> 0:56:32.719 got me thinking of this mother son. So there's also 0:56:32.880 --> 0:56:35.960 life I won't say after music, but all within music, 0:56:36.200 --> 0:56:41.919 where it be TV and radio And what were those 0:56:42.080 --> 0:56:45.560 transitions like and that did they come at a at 0:56:45.560 --> 0:56:48.680 a time where you needed them or were they things 0:56:48.760 --> 0:56:51.400 that you just decided, you know what, I want to 0:56:51.480 --> 0:56:53.839 branch off and do some other things. Let me get 0:56:53.920 --> 0:56:56.920 in to this space because you know, I know, from 0:56:56.960 --> 0:57:00.839 an artist standpoint, there are we all know there are 0:57:01.480 --> 0:57:04.440 there are mountain tops, and then there are valley loads, 0:57:05.000 --> 0:57:07.399 and then we gotta we gotta gotta livot, we gotta pivot, 0:57:07.440 --> 0:57:09.800 we gotta scram. You know what what you'a got for 0:57:09.840 --> 0:57:12.480 me over there? Yeah? Okay, all right, we fight, We 0:57:12.840 --> 0:57:15.520 fight the chickens. Alright, alright, I'm the announcer at the 0:57:15.600 --> 0:57:23.320 chicken fights on Wednesday nights. They got it's it's okaya, 0:57:23.440 --> 0:57:32.000 come see me chicken fights and I'll be at the bullfight. Yo. Yo, 0:57:34.040 --> 0:57:37.080 He's like, no, people have no idea. So how do 0:57:37.160 --> 0:57:42.120 you get to television? I did radio first, Okay, so 0:57:42.320 --> 0:57:45.560 this is how I got in the radio. It's so crazy, 0:57:45.840 --> 0:57:48.800 I would um, I was. I was living between Merland 0:57:48.840 --> 0:57:52.000 and New York at the time, and so I used 0:57:52.000 --> 0:57:55.760 to watch Martin in high school and so ye like 0:57:56.680 --> 0:57:58.680 when I met Martin, I'll myself. Had it not been 0:57:58.720 --> 0:58:01.480 for you, I wouldn't have been able to do radio. Um. 0:58:01.920 --> 0:58:05.720 Shout out to Ursulain Radium is my home girls, Martin sisters, 0:58:06.000 --> 0:58:13.840 who I love very dearly. Everybody wanted the podcast to 0:58:13.880 --> 0:58:19.960 believe trust and believe um. So I remember Tracy Clarity 0:58:20.120 --> 0:58:22.960 was the program director at High nineties seven and so 0:58:23.200 --> 0:58:25.680 one day I think I filled in for I used 0:58:25.720 --> 0:58:27.680 to feel it for Angie Martinez. I would feel it. 0:58:27.920 --> 0:58:31.120 I feeled it one night for Funk Flex. Everybody used 0:58:31.120 --> 0:58:32.960 to have had me feeling. I filled in one morning. 0:58:33.520 --> 0:58:37.280 That's what started Buck while I was there. So she 0:58:37.440 --> 0:58:40.360 was just like, hey, do you want come working radio? 0:58:40.960 --> 0:58:44.360 And I was like, you know, I will, But the 0:58:44.480 --> 0:58:47.480 labels like no, because that will be a conflict, yea 0:58:47.720 --> 0:58:54.040 competition and conflict. And yeah, that's what I learned. They 0:58:54.160 --> 0:58:55.640 used to tell you know that I can't tell you 0:58:55.720 --> 0:58:58.360 know because they'd be like, dude, you that's discrimination. You're 0:58:58.360 --> 0:59:00.800 telling me I can't work. You know what I'm saying? 0:59:00.800 --> 0:59:02.200 How imposed to take care of my family? So I 0:59:02.280 --> 0:59:04.400 did radio because of that. And then when I got 0:59:04.440 --> 0:59:07.000 pregnant with my daughter Heaven, that's when I was just 0:59:07.120 --> 0:59:11.680 like THEA. Mitchem her and James Stevens. Yeah, like I 0:59:11.800 --> 0:59:14.520 got history with all the O G S. THEA. Mitchell 0:59:14.600 --> 0:59:18.600 gave me my first afternoon drive show in Baltimore. It 0:59:18.680 --> 0:59:20.440 was called X one O five seven. They had just 0:59:20.520 --> 0:59:23.920 switched from like talk radio or sports radio to hip 0:59:23.960 --> 0:59:26.080 hop and R and B. So mind you ninety two 0:59:26.160 --> 0:59:28.240 Q had been there for years, so we were a 0:59:28.320 --> 0:59:31.240 new black station coming into a market that you're at 0:59:31.320 --> 0:59:34.880 least expected to make it because Baltimore, you don't like you. 0:59:37.240 --> 0:59:41.160 We were at least expected because you were at least 0:59:41.200 --> 0:59:43.760 expected to make it. Especially it was almost like remember 0:59:43.800 --> 0:59:46.080 when Power Want to Fire started? Oh how ninety seven 0:59:46.120 --> 0:59:49.440 being here, you ain't gonna last. Ninety years later we lasted. 0:59:49.920 --> 0:59:51.840 So it's just like I was just like, look, I'm pregnant, 0:59:52.120 --> 0:59:53.880 I don't feel like this is my first child, feel 0:59:53.880 --> 0:59:55.480 like going on the road. And she was like okay, 0:59:56.160 --> 0:59:59.520 and she said, if you listen to pay attention, you'll 0:59:59.520 --> 1:00:01.880 have a number one show. I listened to. I paid 1:00:01.880 --> 1:00:04.680 attention and I had a number one show against the 1:00:05.440 --> 1:00:08.800 We beat the number one shows. That was in Maryland. 1:00:09.480 --> 1:00:12.000 So after I had my daughter, I wanted to stay there, 1:00:12.120 --> 1:00:15.760 but the label call was just like, yeah, let's talk. 1:00:15.800 --> 1:00:18.840 You go back outside, y'all, And that's when I started. Um, 1:00:19.000 --> 1:00:21.880 I did Meet the Girl next Door album, so I 1:00:21.960 --> 1:00:24.200 did that whole album pregnant, So I was like, no 1:00:24.440 --> 1:00:27.200 much pregnant recording a whole album remember Mike Michael was 1:00:27.240 --> 1:00:30.520 in the studio. I was like walking from the studio 1:00:31.600 --> 1:00:33.760 recorded and then just like the birth of my daughter, 1:00:33.800 --> 1:00:36.280 I was like back out on the road, like a 1:00:36.400 --> 1:00:39.360 couple of weeks later, and I remember John Peki called 1:00:39.400 --> 1:00:42.600 me nice said, you're died from you together. Don't be 1:00:42.680 --> 1:00:49.800 got out of weeks after six weeks. And I was 1:00:49.920 --> 1:00:52.560 outside before that because I just I've never said, if 1:00:52.600 --> 1:00:55.120 you realize, I've never sat down a day in my 1:00:55.240 --> 1:00:58.200 life since I was fifteen, even before then, Like I 1:00:58.320 --> 1:01:01.760 was doing that. Really, come on, let's talk about that though, 1:01:02.120 --> 1:01:14.880 man ter, I gotta started, what are we doing? Think? Yeah? 1:01:15.400 --> 1:01:17.120 So it was like I was every time I have 1:01:17.200 --> 1:01:19.320 a kid, people like every time you put out an album, 1:01:19.520 --> 1:01:22.360 you have a baby. I'm like, damn it, I gotta 1:01:22.400 --> 1:01:24.960 stop this man. So it was like you know, once, yeah, 1:01:25.040 --> 1:01:27.600 once my daughter she was born, and she was like 1:01:27.960 --> 1:01:30.280 she's to this day, she's twenty years old. She's at fast. 1:01:30.360 --> 1:01:31.720 So I was like, I just felt I could take 1:01:31.760 --> 1:01:34.240 on the road. So she's been on tour and everything, 1:01:34.600 --> 1:01:37.480 and they let her get her shots early because you know, 1:01:37.520 --> 1:01:39.800 you posted to weight like eight weeks, but she had 1:01:39.880 --> 1:01:43.320 teeth at like two months. Right at that two month 1:01:43.360 --> 1:01:44.840 mark when they puposed to get this. So I was 1:01:44.920 --> 1:01:46.480 just like we all siwe We was in Jamaica and 1:01:46.880 --> 1:01:51.360 was like and my mom and daddy because I would 1:01:51.360 --> 1:01:53.320 be like, I'm not hiring on nanny. I don't trust 1:01:53.320 --> 1:01:55.600 people around my kids because of trauma that happened to 1:01:55.640 --> 1:01:57.960 me when I was a child. So I was just like, yeah, 1:01:58.120 --> 1:01:59.960 so my mom and dad used to travel a road 1:02:00.040 --> 1:02:02.920 with me to the good stuff, and they were preachers, 1:02:02.960 --> 1:02:06.240 so there was circles and prayers formed around us preachers 1:02:06.320 --> 1:02:08.720 to yeah, my dad's a bishop both but he's the 1:02:08.760 --> 1:02:12.800 cool money driver. Yeah. Yeah. I had to fire him 1:02:12.800 --> 1:02:14.880 because he sleep one time and I was like, we 1:02:15.000 --> 1:02:17.680 can't have that. The Lord covered you though, because you 1:02:17.760 --> 1:02:23.439 still the Lord covered because we ain't and no ditch child. 1:02:26.000 --> 1:02:28.560 Do you remember the church trips how many times we 1:02:28.600 --> 1:02:30.600 didn't know if those drivers were licensed. You got to 1:02:30.600 --> 1:02:32.320 look to that side of the room when you have 1:02:35.440 --> 1:02:38.160 church and stuff, and you know, we never knew if 1:02:38.200 --> 1:02:40.560 the deacon or whoever was driving had a license. And 1:02:40.600 --> 1:02:46.520 the band they never got old changes made that stuff. Yes, 1:02:46.720 --> 1:02:50.920 we just to the church. Christian Union Missionary had a 1:02:51.480 --> 1:02:54.880 church buts and then and then uh, we broke down. 1:02:55.000 --> 1:03:00.520 We had the vans out in Marylanney always drive a 1:03:00.560 --> 1:03:01.960 coach bus and you had to pay the money and 1:03:02.080 --> 1:03:04.240 always be the people that he had the money. We 1:03:04.320 --> 1:03:07.240 take the trip in in Milwaukee, we take the trip 1:03:07.320 --> 1:03:11.280 to Great America. And then when I got to Maryland, 1:03:11.720 --> 1:03:14.360 that's when we that's when it was six and you 1:03:14.440 --> 1:03:16.720 get to go on the church six flashship or your 1:03:16.720 --> 1:03:18.280 school was going to the trip and you got to 1:03:18.280 --> 1:03:21.440 go to the summer church trip. Was cool because you 1:03:21.880 --> 1:03:24.240 you might have made a little connection, got a little 1:03:24.760 --> 1:03:26.680 little girlfriend. You know what I'm saying. You didn't know. 1:03:28.800 --> 1:03:30.760 We went to your church and you just made somebody. 1:03:30.760 --> 1:03:32.560 You might have been looking at the choir or something. 1:03:32.680 --> 1:03:37.600 Now yeah, yeah, yeah. And when you got to six 1:03:37.680 --> 1:03:40.000 Flags or whatever, where y'all is going, you know you 1:03:40.240 --> 1:03:42.280 you want on your own, you know where you went 1:03:42.320 --> 1:03:49.360 your way. You sitting next to her, her boyfriend to 1:03:49.400 --> 1:03:57.000 the church because the church girls do a little bad 1:03:57.080 --> 1:04:00.240 boys that used to be crazy. Actually became my girl friend. 1:04:00.320 --> 1:04:07.480 But she cheated on me. She cheated on me. Connor 1:04:07.520 --> 1:04:09.120 with the church, he was a good guy. I actually 1:04:09.200 --> 1:04:15.320 became a really good friend. Um. But yeah, yeah, remember 1:04:15.360 --> 1:04:19.520 the church. The church tis used to be lit. Everyone 1:04:19.560 --> 1:04:22.040 on the church, So you're doing radio. I didn't grow 1:04:22.080 --> 1:04:30.000 up the change, so um radio doing the radio. I've 1:04:30.040 --> 1:04:33.600 actually been on your radio show. So congrats to that, 1:04:33.680 --> 1:04:36.640 because radio is not easy. It's not because you think that, oh, 1:04:36.680 --> 1:04:38.520 because when you watch more, you think you just get 1:04:38.600 --> 1:04:40.120 to talk. But it was like, no, you have to 1:04:40.160 --> 1:04:43.400 do segments. You have to have fifteen seconds to like 1:04:43.600 --> 1:04:48.000 everything is just like, yeah, what's up? Names traffic up next? Okay, 1:04:48.080 --> 1:04:49.880 make sure you're leaning into this, and then we need 1:04:49.960 --> 1:04:51.720 to make sure you get to get the Walmart thing 1:04:51.800 --> 1:04:53.720 in and then get the all that. Then you have 1:04:53.840 --> 1:04:56.640 to make sure that people listening because they're going to 1:04:56.720 --> 1:04:58.880 tune out, but you got to make sure that you 1:04:59.000 --> 1:05:02.240 have to keep it. Like when I learned those metrics, 1:05:02.280 --> 1:05:03.920 I was like, wait, what do that mean? And then 1:05:03.920 --> 1:05:06.280 it was just like, yeah, that's the people who turned 1:05:06.320 --> 1:05:09.120 but they always come back, So you have to wear radio. 1:05:09.520 --> 1:05:11.960 They don't see you, they just hear you. So you 1:05:12.120 --> 1:05:15.120 have to honestly go up to people that's least expected 1:05:15.360 --> 1:05:17.960 to turn into you. I became the one that they 1:05:18.080 --> 1:05:21.120 least expected to tune it. So I had an audience 1:05:21.560 --> 1:05:24.080 because mind you. We're going from talk radio, so that's 1:05:24.120 --> 1:05:26.760 mostly that's not black people. We don't want to listen 1:05:26.760 --> 1:05:29.440 to people talk. And I think it was like sports 1:05:29.560 --> 1:05:31.040 radio or whatever it was. So it was just like 1:05:31.440 --> 1:05:33.280 they're going from the good old boys and the people 1:05:33.280 --> 1:05:36.479 that like, I don't know why to coming into loud 1:05:36.560 --> 1:05:39.480 mouth a little month. I kind it out next a 1:05:39.480 --> 1:05:42.080 bog me and your ruling them. You feard me. So 1:05:42.160 --> 1:05:46.440 it's going from regular to dag on their ratchet. But 1:05:46.600 --> 1:05:50.000 it worked. It works. So how do you go from 1:05:50.520 --> 1:05:53.800 how do you go from radio being successful at radio 1:05:54.560 --> 1:06:01.480 to television? Just like honestly paying at jim M. I 1:06:01.600 --> 1:06:04.480 always see. I don't even watch TV now, so I 1:06:04.560 --> 1:06:06.800 don't know. But I always just like, as long as 1:06:06.840 --> 1:06:09.760 I'm allowed to do me, I'm like, that's what people like, 1:06:10.040 --> 1:06:12.360 let me be me, and that's what people like because 1:06:12.360 --> 1:06:14.240 I'm like, that's real. When you try to make me 1:06:14.320 --> 1:06:17.120 something I'm not or saying something that I don't want 1:06:17.120 --> 1:06:18.959 to say, like trust me and this have like trust 1:06:19.000 --> 1:06:21.000 me on this. I'm gonna give it my all, but 1:06:21.040 --> 1:06:23.480 I'm gonna let you know that's not gonna work because 1:06:24.160 --> 1:06:27.960 I've come from greatness, so I've like I've been through 1:06:28.000 --> 1:06:30.680 the school of hard knocks. I learned. I learned basically 1:06:30.760 --> 1:06:33.160 the hard way. But and everybody thinks it was easy 1:06:33.200 --> 1:06:35.960 because it goes from John too Missy to Jay to 1:06:36.080 --> 1:06:38.440 go to all of that stuff. But it's like I 1:06:38.600 --> 1:06:41.480 was learning that whole time. So what I learned as 1:06:41.520 --> 1:06:44.200 a teenager brought me into my adult life. So when 1:06:44.440 --> 1:06:45.720 there was a lot of people, there was a lot 1:06:45.720 --> 1:06:47.320 of artists, why is you doing ready, and why did 1:06:47.360 --> 1:06:49.840 you do a TV? Your fans ain't gonna like you, 1:06:49.960 --> 1:06:51.720 dada da da, because that makes you look a certain way. 1:06:51.760 --> 1:06:54.160 I was like, oh, that ain't gonna like me. And 1:06:54.240 --> 1:06:56.280 if they don't, I don't care. They're still gonna look. 1:06:57.200 --> 1:06:59.280 So whether you like me, love me, hate me, you're 1:06:59.280 --> 1:07:01.680 still gonna watch because it's gonna be real. And I 1:07:01.840 --> 1:07:04.440 realized over the years the reason why people have always 1:07:04.800 --> 1:07:07.760 gravitated to me to be like, yo, you keep that 1:07:07.920 --> 1:07:12.520 just so real, like what you like When I get drunk, 1:07:12.520 --> 1:07:17.960 I'm gonna turn this bit up. You are, ye, don't. 1:07:20.480 --> 1:07:22.760 It's interesting because it's a conversation that Tank and I 1:07:22.880 --> 1:07:26.440 have and we've had many times with his career. From 1:07:26.480 --> 1:07:29.000 me being on the business side of his career and 1:07:29.160 --> 1:07:32.720 me saying to him that when you have a gift, 1:07:33.240 --> 1:07:37.160 a real gift, you can't over saturate a real gift 1:07:38.120 --> 1:07:40.960 and there's no way to get away from that. Right, 1:07:41.000 --> 1:07:43.920 So someone telling you, oh, they ain't gonna like this, 1:07:44.000 --> 1:07:47.120 ain't gonna like that. No, you're just bringing more eyeballs 1:07:47.600 --> 1:07:51.680 to your gift and you're actually enhancing it because now 1:07:51.800 --> 1:07:56.360 you're giving your personality, which before social media was really 1:07:56.480 --> 1:08:02.880 tough for the wait for Cything Horner to call somebody 1:08:03.360 --> 1:08:06.800 knew you one way and you from from your videos 1:08:06.840 --> 1:08:09.240 and your your outcome or if you was looking like 1:08:10.320 --> 1:08:12.959 I was on Jay Lenno before I even had songs 1:08:12.960 --> 1:08:15.360 that so Missy took me on it like and I 1:08:15.480 --> 1:08:22.439 was like, man, have conversations, right, because the gift for 1:08:22.520 --> 1:08:25.080 me was social media, you know what I'm saying and 1:08:25.160 --> 1:08:29.679 actually going to meet people because people just assumed something 1:08:29.760 --> 1:08:34.200 about me because of the preacher's kid, and he shouldn't 1:08:34.200 --> 1:08:36.840 have done. Preachers preach mass me up a little bit. 1:08:37.080 --> 1:08:42.000 But a legend industry style, a legend for a lot 1:08:42.040 --> 1:08:49.000 of wrong things. But like let's talking about people. Aired. 1:08:50.200 --> 1:08:52.360 The media brought it back essential media. People got to 1:08:52.400 --> 1:08:56.920 see my personality, which is the one thing missing from 1:08:57.400 --> 1:09:01.280 you know, all of my photos and and probably my music. 1:09:01.360 --> 1:09:03.519 It wasn't well rounded in terms of you know, who 1:09:03.600 --> 1:09:07.600 I really am. You know, all they saw was you 1:09:07.640 --> 1:09:12.479 know what I'm saying, That's all they saw. You said, 1:09:12.479 --> 1:09:15.080 you can't trust the nigga who bites his mouth to 1:09:15.160 --> 1:09:17.559 make it so look skinny to you. Watch the niggas 1:09:17.560 --> 1:09:22.960 who do that. I'm not saying that you were just doing. 1:09:23.640 --> 1:09:27.479 Those niggers that do this, they can't be trusted. I 1:09:27.600 --> 1:09:30.880 can't be trusted. Okay, just remember that I got sisters 1:09:30.920 --> 1:09:37.000 and I got a daughter, so I be looking at looking. 1:09:38.720 --> 1:09:42.679 If a nigga's doo lander's face can't trusted, you can't trusted. 1:09:44.920 --> 1:09:47.800 People would meet me and be like you are not 1:09:48.000 --> 1:09:50.960 what I expected. Because as soon as I walk in up, 1:09:51.240 --> 1:09:54.040 what's happened? What we're doing? Okay? We even sandwiches? Who 1:09:54.120 --> 1:09:57.000 needs a sandwich? I'm passing out the sandwiches at the luncheon? 1:09:57.000 --> 1:09:59.479 Who needs drinks? I got the ice team? You want 1:09:59.600 --> 1:10:02.680 sun that's got you like on that and then like 1:10:03.640 --> 1:10:06.040 you're great, Yeah I thought you were in that. That's 1:10:06.080 --> 1:10:08.720 what I mean. That crazy. So many times when I 1:10:08.760 --> 1:10:11.599 first started working with Tank. Really it was like, wow, dude, 1:10:11.600 --> 1:10:16.400 this dude like he mean and always got shirt off, 1:10:17.240 --> 1:10:22.320 like bro the nigga coolest hell. But nobody knew that 1:10:22.439 --> 1:10:25.040 because they only saw the album coverage, the videos and 1:10:25.160 --> 1:10:27.720 heard the song and they and they saw Preacher's Kid. 1:10:29.160 --> 1:10:33.400 Those are the things. Those are like you watch kid again, 1:10:34.120 --> 1:10:37.800 watch again. I get it. Yeah it was, but I 1:10:37.880 --> 1:10:42.960 mean god in that you feel like your television moment 1:10:43.080 --> 1:10:46.320 was an opportunity for people to actually see all of 1:10:46.439 --> 1:10:49.559 your personality and not just hear you. Yeah, they get 1:10:49.640 --> 1:10:53.120 to see actually like why it was so aggressive and 1:10:53.200 --> 1:11:00.760 then I realized, you know when yeah, that's what I 1:11:00.880 --> 1:11:05.280 heard was she did this. That's but that's the one 1:11:05.320 --> 1:11:09.880 that just makes it feel like that's ever had a 1:11:09.960 --> 1:11:18.080 bop off a little Kim. I need to have one 1:11:18.120 --> 1:11:20.960 of these because it was just like that Joe like 1:11:21.400 --> 1:11:23.519 even to this day was something I'm like, who, no 1:11:23.760 --> 1:11:32.880 other girls maybe total maybe total total, Yeah, but people 1:11:33.120 --> 1:11:35.600 really just bop they would because I came from you 1:11:35.640 --> 1:11:37.760 know side, that's not I always hated that, so I 1:11:37.840 --> 1:11:43.920 always looked the one always. Actually I was allowed to 1:11:43.960 --> 1:11:47.400 do that with John Pie Kid Jump. Yeah, you could 1:11:47.400 --> 1:11:49.400 be like no, you could be you could be youthful, 1:11:49.439 --> 1:11:51.960 you could be a young person. They was jumping at 1:11:51.960 --> 1:11:55.680 your stage. I was like John concerts. Those concerts we 1:11:55.680 --> 1:11:58.479 would actually wear street clothes. Yeah, and that was like 1:11:58.680 --> 1:12:00.720 kind of frowned upon church, you know what I'm saying. 1:12:00.760 --> 1:12:02.840 But we got to dress how we wanted to dress 1:12:02.880 --> 1:12:04.560 to come to a John p Key concert, and we 1:12:04.640 --> 1:12:08.000 got to turn up, turn up, and he would mix 1:12:08.160 --> 1:12:11.720 in you know a lot of the secular music with 1:12:11.880 --> 1:12:13.800 the band playing certain stuff, and we'd be like this 1:12:13.920 --> 1:12:18.120 the oh my god, this is crazy, and they would 1:12:18.200 --> 1:12:31.400 know me should go to the like, oh God, just 1:12:31.560 --> 1:12:36.640 imagined being in church, but not really in church, you 1:12:36.680 --> 1:12:38.080 know what I'm saying. It was like they gave you 1:12:38.160 --> 1:12:42.600 outside of love, that a lot of outside something. I 1:12:42.720 --> 1:12:45.280 just grew up in the wrong place, man, like he 1:12:45.439 --> 1:12:46.720 just if I would have grew up like in the 1:12:46.800 --> 1:12:50.200 South for the middle. But all of those churches didn't 1:12:50.200 --> 1:12:53.000 have all of us, all all of our probably our 1:12:53.080 --> 1:13:00.280 home churches basic they were basic. My church was traditional, basically, Yeah, 1:13:00.560 --> 1:13:03.519 my church. Some of the you know, some of the 1:13:03.600 --> 1:13:06.200 breaking of the traditions in my church. It was me 1:13:07.560 --> 1:13:10.160 and that was from me going to see John b 1:13:10.280 --> 1:13:12.120 KEI and hanging out with John Pike and listening to 1:13:12.280 --> 1:13:14.519 John like and listening to the commission like that was 1:13:14.720 --> 1:13:19.439 me trying to break those traditions and say, man, we kids, Man, yeah, 1:13:19.880 --> 1:13:23.200 why do we have to listen? Don't pay the risk. 1:13:33.240 --> 1:13:36.360 But we would do that in church. Absolutely, I'll be 1:13:36.439 --> 1:13:39.080 playing all sorts of stuff they're offering and maybe like 1:13:39.360 --> 1:13:40.880 but then they'll be like, oh, we know what that is, 1:13:41.200 --> 1:13:44.600 but you supposed to be deep save spooky, how do 1:13:44.600 --> 1:13:47.320 you know what it is? So but what's crazy is 1:13:47.400 --> 1:13:49.360 is that I'm trying to think who broke it down? Man? 1:13:49.360 --> 1:13:51.640 I think it was Joe Wilson because I was like, 1:13:52.000 --> 1:13:55.000 he plays like he played. I told him one time. 1:13:55.040 --> 1:13:57.439 I was like, I said, don't take this the wrong way. 1:13:58.160 --> 1:14:06.919 Your gift is Lucifer Eric. He's like, wait, Lucifer became Satan. 1:14:07.439 --> 1:14:12.000 He was the most beautiful. Yeah, he walked in music dripped. 1:14:12.680 --> 1:14:17.080 They said he walked in the set music drip. He 1:14:17.280 --> 1:14:23.360 walked and it was a sound. So you're Delucifer. I'm 1:14:23.400 --> 1:14:26.280 just like, nah, that was the most beautiful. But he 1:14:26.360 --> 1:14:28.599 got so caught up. That's why I's like with this industry, 1:14:29.479 --> 1:14:35.960 they come on this industry. You can come in if 1:14:36.000 --> 1:14:38.920 you come in. That's why I learned to have tough skin, 1:14:39.479 --> 1:14:41.720 and I get it. I came in just like just 1:14:41.800 --> 1:14:44.240 wanted to work. Oh my god, I could say, and 1:14:44.360 --> 1:14:47.920 that's how you get taking advantage of So now I 1:14:48.000 --> 1:14:50.320 get it. If you come and smiling, the hippy and 1:14:50.479 --> 1:14:56.000 excite it, they're literally devout. I've seen people devour and 1:14:56.000 --> 1:14:59.080 I'm like, damn SI And I always thought, oh my god, 1:14:59.160 --> 1:15:01.639 they're gonna pass me, because why am I still here? 1:15:02.479 --> 1:15:06.160 Because I survived, not only to turn up what was in, 1:15:06.439 --> 1:15:09.000 what was in parted and placed into me as a 1:15:09.120 --> 1:15:12.320 child and as a team. It carried over to to 1:15:13.040 --> 1:15:16.560 this day. Now forget it. So it was, it was, 1:15:16.720 --> 1:15:19.360 it was. It was never your last. It was you were. 1:15:19.439 --> 1:15:24.640 You were given an extension on you because let me 1:15:24.720 --> 1:15:28.120 tell you something about you. We talked about me. Let 1:15:28.200 --> 1:15:30.160 me just tell you this, because you want to know 1:15:30.200 --> 1:15:31.720 why I asked you a question so many times. I 1:15:31.840 --> 1:15:34.680 was just like, I don't think like people like us, 1:15:35.080 --> 1:15:38.960 We don't realize our gifts have not only changed lives, 1:15:39.040 --> 1:15:43.400 but it's changed the world. Your music has changed my 1:15:43.520 --> 1:15:47.920 life because nobody sings like that. You could do what 1:15:48.000 --> 1:15:50.800 they did. They can't do what you did. So I 1:15:50.920 --> 1:15:52.640 listened to people, I'm like, yoah, that's all take and 1:15:52.680 --> 1:15:54.639 I'll tell you off the record. I was like, child, 1:15:55.120 --> 1:16:00.800 that's that's his whole sound. There's a sound. So when 1:16:00.840 --> 1:16:04.000 we hear you, we know it's you, even if it's 1:16:04.000 --> 1:16:09.880 somebody else. Tryes. Yeah, trust me. People to have awards 1:16:10.360 --> 1:16:12.800 that it will take up this whole run if it 1:16:12.920 --> 1:16:17.000 wasn't for taking this the note. Yeah, so I get it, 1:16:18.280 --> 1:16:21.080 and they'll never and if we was probably a different 1:16:21.120 --> 1:16:25.240 color that would give you all the praise. But that's 1:16:25.280 --> 1:16:28.120 a whole, another whole, another bag. But that's that's what 1:16:28.200 --> 1:16:30.479 I'm saying. I've seen people I'm just like, wait, man 1:16:30.800 --> 1:16:33.640 adds they're doing okay, they say that's church. This is 1:16:34.080 --> 1:16:38.200 I literally dumbed down my gift because I was like, 1:16:38.240 --> 1:16:42.640 I don't sound like that, but y'all come on, now, 1:16:43.160 --> 1:16:45.560 we wasn't when Johnny was passing that, Mike, that's the 1:16:45.600 --> 1:16:47.439 air I come from. When it was passing, that might 1:16:47.560 --> 1:16:49.080 let you come out with that damn giving it to 1:16:49.120 --> 1:16:53.240 you no more so what they considered now, oh my god, 1:16:53.320 --> 1:16:55.840 that's bullying, that's traumatizing. No, it wasn't it built character 1:16:56.120 --> 1:17:02.880 period period. We were tried by fire, fire fire as kids. 1:17:08.320 --> 1:17:11.200 I had to get that out. But that's not true. 1:17:11.600 --> 1:17:15.800 We were tried by fire. You're not you're not good 1:17:15.960 --> 1:17:18.240 enough to be up here. Have a seat. You're not leading, 1:17:18.320 --> 1:17:27.920 no solo, have a seat. Abundant came, you're ready, say 1:17:27.960 --> 1:17:33.560 you off. You're really off, because you were because I was. 1:17:35.800 --> 1:17:39.240 You're flat. You're flat. Remember. Don't you get up there 1:17:39.479 --> 1:17:41.479 and they call you the sing a solo and be 1:17:41.560 --> 1:17:43.320 like I don't want to saying it's like you better 1:17:43.360 --> 1:17:45.320 sing or else. The Lord is gonna give your voice 1:17:45.360 --> 1:17:50.880 to someone else. God sence we got listen. I don't 1:17:50.880 --> 1:17:56.200 know what this. That's what they call it. Tell me 1:17:56.320 --> 1:18:00.040 and I don't want them to get They ensured like 1:18:00.160 --> 1:18:02.840 you got. You had to be you had to be tough. 1:18:03.000 --> 1:18:06.679 You had to be just born of something different to survive. 1:18:07.240 --> 1:18:10.920 We want people like remember they said Maddie Moore shoes 1:18:10.920 --> 1:18:14.760 at though tennis ball, that she is. We they don't know. 1:18:15.040 --> 1:18:17.519 You're like the lost member of the Clark sisters. I 1:18:17.760 --> 1:18:19.680 think I was. I think I was the cat. I 1:18:19.760 --> 1:18:28.640 was like like Derren Clark. I used to think, and 1:18:28.720 --> 1:18:32.160 that leads to a song that a lot of people 1:18:32.240 --> 1:18:37.880 don't know about. Listen. Listen, there's a song called Endowed 1:18:37.960 --> 1:18:45.920 Me with You, Faith Evans, Fantasia Coco who song It 1:18:46.080 --> 1:18:49.040 is okay like that a lot of people don't know, 1:18:49.200 --> 1:18:55.320 but it's like the Clark Sisters to me. When I 1:18:55.400 --> 1:18:57.719 heard that record, I was like, Oh, this is okay. 1:18:57.760 --> 1:19:01.160 Whoever decided we're gonna call these It was a Cocoa 1:19:01.240 --> 1:19:02.840 that was like, these are the these are the voices 1:19:02.880 --> 1:19:04.439 that I'm calling. I know when I got to call 1:19:04.560 --> 1:19:09.519 Phil Thornton. He called me. He was like, hey, um, 1:19:10.120 --> 1:19:12.479 we're doing this record. So I know they had asked 1:19:12.520 --> 1:19:14.640 other producers to do it, but I don't know if 1:19:14.680 --> 1:19:17.280 people saw the vision. So he was like, hey, can 1:19:17.320 --> 1:19:19.680 you flyt up? When was? It was a Tennessee web 1:19:19.920 --> 1:19:22.679 A sap Ward produced it. So I sang the whole 1:19:22.760 --> 1:19:25.400 record in his entirety, and then he bought Faith in 1:19:25.520 --> 1:19:30.240 and everybody did their separate parts. So the original reference 1:19:31.560 --> 1:19:35.000 was me, and I was just like because I always 1:19:35.040 --> 1:19:37.840 thought I was a clerk, So Coco wanted me on 1:19:37.880 --> 1:19:40.720 the record. I was just like, yo, I called Fantasia, 1:19:40.840 --> 1:19:42.360 you know you gotta get on this jump. So then 1:19:42.400 --> 1:19:45.360 it just became an effect. I know Phil was working 1:19:45.439 --> 1:19:47.519 with Faith at the time, so he called her and 1:19:47.600 --> 1:19:49.720 but I called fantag like, you need to get on this. 1:19:51.040 --> 1:19:54.360 Coco is my first placement, really, my first placement in 1:19:54.360 --> 1:19:56.840 the music business as a songwriter. A song called so 1:19:56.960 --> 1:19:59.639 Hard to Say Goodbye that I wrote for the Hot 1:19:59.680 --> 1:20:04.040 Coco album. It's my first placement as a songwriter ever. 1:20:04.280 --> 1:20:07.000 What's crazy is Coco come from We all from church 1:20:07.479 --> 1:20:09.680 and she grew up in the Bronx. I've never met 1:20:09.720 --> 1:20:13.360 her though, really, which makes it even crazy. Never met 1:20:14.400 --> 1:20:17.479 to this day, I never met Cocoa. She's the coolest, 1:20:17.560 --> 1:20:21.599 Like you know what I am. I'll be in bad 1:20:21.800 --> 1:20:29.280 be onside, like, oh man, she's the coolest. She gonna 1:20:29.320 --> 1:20:30.720 she's gonna hear this and she's gonna be like, Yo, 1:20:30.800 --> 1:20:34.479 that's crazy and yeah, and I got to shoot, that's 1:20:34.520 --> 1:20:37.200 like so crazy. Yeah. I love that record though, and 1:20:37.240 --> 1:20:39.320 that's why that's why I mentioned it. And for me 1:20:39.600 --> 1:20:42.280 it was it was like listening to the Clark sisters, 1:20:42.680 --> 1:20:46.720 like y'all voices together special but see asap like he 1:20:46.880 --> 1:20:49.360 wasn't playing and I was scared. When I'm gonna tell 1:20:49.400 --> 1:20:51.680 you one another crazy thing is. I was just like, 1:20:51.880 --> 1:20:54.320 I was scared to sing it because I knew that 1:20:54.400 --> 1:20:57.400 ASP used to play for Kim Barell, and I was like, listen, 1:20:57.400 --> 1:20:59.040 I'm doing this. I don't see like, no, Kim Brew 1:20:59.240 --> 1:21:02.840 a singer. No. And I went outside and I was 1:21:02.920 --> 1:21:05.080 like smoking weed that session to singing and down me 1:21:05.479 --> 1:21:08.600 because I was nervouing, you know what I was like, 1:21:08.680 --> 1:21:13.599 And it was the weed. It calmed me. I don't 1:21:13.640 --> 1:21:15.479 even know. I think my assistant at the time. I 1:21:15.600 --> 1:21:17.840 was like, where how do we get weed from Baltimore 1:21:17.880 --> 1:21:20.680 to whoever we was? But it calmed me and I 1:21:20.800 --> 1:21:22.479 was able to do I was like, listen, I can't 1:21:22.520 --> 1:21:24.280 do none of that stuff. Kimbarell DoD He's like, you 1:21:24.320 --> 1:21:26.320 don't have to. I want you to do what you 1:21:26.439 --> 1:21:31.000 did and the rest is history. So it's like, yeah, 1:21:31.320 --> 1:21:37.439 if anybody's watching this, go listen to that. Please go 1:21:37.680 --> 1:21:42.280 listen to that record, because these women are going crazy 1:21:42.600 --> 1:21:51.040 on that record. Y'all are cooking Lina's bro Coco, Faith Evans, Fantasia, 1:21:51.640 --> 1:21:59.840 and Sassy Sea. Little wisdom I would give you good 1:22:01.360 --> 1:22:04.160 was sexy. It wasn't a little wisdom, it was your wisdom. 1:22:05.320 --> 1:22:10.320 A little moment okay, I'm confusing a young widow sassy 1:22:10.920 --> 1:22:15.600 ce so so man So, first of all, thank you 1:22:15.720 --> 1:22:20.479 for your energy at my album released in Miami. Um, 1:22:21.840 --> 1:22:23.960 that was just crazy. It's like that little bos about 1:22:23.960 --> 1:22:28.960 to climb over. That's the climb. You gotta say, get it. 1:22:31.600 --> 1:22:36.040 She probably remember I don't show me nothing, something like 1:22:36.080 --> 1:22:37.960 you're gonna pull a ham strength if you jumped this. 1:22:38.240 --> 1:22:40.519 I don't know what's crazy. After like three days he 1:22:40.640 --> 1:22:43.360 was like you was like, I was like, you can't hear. 1:22:43.439 --> 1:22:46.160 You're left here, Yeah, you can't hear? Said, nope, you 1:22:46.320 --> 1:22:52.000 can't hear. I think she said, who told you that? 1:22:52.400 --> 1:22:55.160 I said more, I can't, but who said it? I said, 1:22:55.600 --> 1:22:59.800 I can't hear? But when were you told this? I can't. 1:23:00.320 --> 1:23:09.200 I'm telling you right, I don't believe you. Jesus ain't 1:23:09.240 --> 1:23:13.479 the way he's singing like that and he can't hear. No, 1:23:13.640 --> 1:23:15.479 let me tell you this. This is a real storm 1:23:15.560 --> 1:23:20.360 right here. You're ready go deep. I pay his attention. Okay, 1:23:20.840 --> 1:23:24.080 I watched you on stage. You're saying from monitors, people 1:23:24.120 --> 1:23:25.760 don't do that. They're putting them things in that and 1:23:25.800 --> 1:23:28.840 them things make me like them. I'm like, I can't 1:23:28.880 --> 1:23:32.040 do that you sing from monitors, So if you can't, 1:23:33.280 --> 1:23:37.160 that's unheard of. I just I just I made the adjustment. 1:23:37.240 --> 1:23:41.479 I trained myself to be able to process all of 1:23:41.560 --> 1:23:44.080 it in my one ear. So the problem with me 1:23:44.400 --> 1:23:48.280 and inn ears is that if there are no crowd mix, 1:23:48.800 --> 1:23:53.799 I do disconnected. So yeah, if we have crowd mix, 1:23:54.280 --> 1:23:57.760 then I'm with it because I I kind of I 1:23:57.880 --> 1:24:00.800 thrive off of, you know, crowd in the action. If 1:24:00.800 --> 1:24:02.439 I hear something over here, I want to respond to it. 1:24:02.439 --> 1:24:03.640 If I hear something over here or you know what 1:24:03.640 --> 1:24:05.560 I'm saying, like I want to get into all of 1:24:05.600 --> 1:24:07.840 these don't want your singing. I just don't want to 1:24:08.280 --> 1:24:11.360 run through the motions of my show like I want 1:24:11.400 --> 1:24:13.080 to be. I want to be involved with the people, 1:24:13.080 --> 1:24:15.960 So I can't sartist over are just trying to get 1:24:15.960 --> 1:24:17.880 in and get hello, how many song to sing? A 1:24:17.920 --> 1:24:21.880 piece of a song? And you'd be like, yeah, I mean, 1:24:21.960 --> 1:24:26.000 I don't I understand people go through things. But one 1:24:26.040 --> 1:24:29.800 thing I respect about you is that it was like 1:24:29.880 --> 1:24:33.000 a hundred fifty degrees out there that day, and I 1:24:33.120 --> 1:24:35.240 was like, let me know when he got two songs left, 1:24:35.280 --> 1:24:37.599 because this letout is gonna be crazy. And so they 1:24:37.640 --> 1:24:40.160 tell me. So I walked now slow because I'm like, no, 1:24:40.439 --> 1:24:42.599 I want to hear these songs because once I get 1:24:42.640 --> 1:24:44.560 in my bag, I'm not gonna remember nothing. But I 1:24:44.680 --> 1:24:47.880 was just like, you was singing in the heat, which 1:24:48.000 --> 1:24:51.360 humidity usually take people through out, like I'm not trying 1:24:51.360 --> 1:24:58.360 to really yeah, like but you okay? And I'm like really, 1:24:58.400 --> 1:25:01.600 not trying to disrespect nobody, but it's just like, I'm like, 1:25:02.160 --> 1:25:05.439 I've never seen you have an off day, but I've 1:25:05.479 --> 1:25:07.640 seen people I literally saw on the internet the other week. 1:25:07.720 --> 1:25:09.920 They was like somebody sang three songs and it was like, 1:25:09.960 --> 1:25:12.320 you know what I'm hors you don't get you a 1:25:12.360 --> 1:25:16.559 goddamn and Hella and steam or pre recording vocals. Don't 1:25:16.640 --> 1:25:18.720 you have these people fly out here and talk about you. 1:25:20.640 --> 1:25:25.240 I was gonna cancel that. Really, I had been I 1:25:25.320 --> 1:25:29.840 had been singing, going crazy, doing promo everything for weeks 1:25:30.040 --> 1:25:32.880 and my voice was shot. I felt like I have 1:25:33.000 --> 1:25:35.200 none left, man, I might have to end up canceling 1:25:35.360 --> 1:25:38.519 canceling open. And he was like, I mean, if you're tired, man, 1:25:38.560 --> 1:25:39.880 if you can't do it, you can't do it. And 1:25:39.960 --> 1:25:42.160 I was like, I'm gonna just see how I feel, 1:25:42.840 --> 1:25:46.040 you know, once I get there and so you know, 1:25:46.280 --> 1:25:48.040 I just got chilled a little bit. I had a 1:25:48.040 --> 1:25:52.080 little throat coot, but um um the red bull. I 1:25:52.160 --> 1:25:53.680 was like, let me see where the red bull get me? 1:25:53.680 --> 1:25:57.920 Because the red bully. And then I had a little 1:25:58.000 --> 1:26:00.599 halls and anybody got a halls was I had halls 1:26:00.680 --> 1:26:03.320 on me? Give me the halls. I was like, me, me, me, me, 1:26:03.640 --> 1:26:13.479 me me. I got a little I got a little bit. Yeah, 1:26:14.600 --> 1:26:16.960 just turned that car and it started up a little bit. 1:26:16.960 --> 1:26:19.000 I was like, I got a little left. I was like, 1:26:19.120 --> 1:26:20.439 let's go do it. You know what I'm saying. And 1:26:20.840 --> 1:26:24.200 like for me, like you know, I sing hard. You 1:26:24.200 --> 1:26:27.720 know what I'm saying, so pushing through is this is 1:26:27.760 --> 1:26:31.200 nothing new to me. You know what I'm saying. He's 1:26:31.200 --> 1:26:34.600 also a great adjuster exactly, so you'll you'll know, like 1:26:34.760 --> 1:26:38.360 jail no, because he knows how high I can sing. Yeah, 1:26:38.600 --> 1:26:41.120 and when I'm not when I'm not here and I'm 1:26:41.160 --> 1:26:43.320 down here in this little roles, you will never find 1:26:46.840 --> 1:26:48.960 like when I'm down there here like this, yeah just 1:26:49.040 --> 1:26:50.519 look cooked. And I was like, yeah, I was cool. 1:26:53.080 --> 1:26:57.639 I know, do y'all like this? This is the podcast 1:26:57.760 --> 1:27:11.479 is lit but energy like yeast, Like I want to 1:27:11.520 --> 1:27:15.120 see that though, like because that's a vibe. That's a vibe. 1:27:15.120 --> 1:27:17.240 But I'm just like sometimes I like, I'm all for 1:27:17.520 --> 1:27:19.960 giving people their flowers while they could smell them, and 1:27:20.040 --> 1:27:22.200 I'm always a flower gifing. I like, hey, no, I'll 1:27:22.240 --> 1:27:24.160 never give me mine. I don't look for people to 1:27:24.200 --> 1:27:27.240 get exalted anymore like the real ones. So you saying 1:27:27.320 --> 1:27:30.479 to me like you've been able to rock tempos like, 1:27:31.240 --> 1:27:33.400 and I'll just be like, that's a flower and I 1:27:33.880 --> 1:27:37.080 always hold onto that forever. But to see you like, 1:27:37.479 --> 1:27:39.519 I'm like, when you just imagine when you want to 1:27:39.600 --> 1:27:41.800 hunt it, child, I probably would have. I haven't been 1:27:41.840 --> 1:27:46.760 on a hunt in a long time, really, now, let 1:27:46.840 --> 1:27:48.599 me tell you this. And I was wondering, like when 1:27:48.640 --> 1:27:50.320 I was seeing all the stuff on social media, was like, 1:27:50.400 --> 1:27:53.000 I like the way the strategically he probably recorded this 1:27:53.080 --> 1:27:56.720 week before, Like you was doing shows, you was in Baltimore, 1:27:56.920 --> 1:28:03.360 you was everywhere. Then I saw you singing Come with Jamie. 1:28:03.479 --> 1:28:06.040 Yeah that was a long time ago. Yeah, that was 1:28:06.040 --> 1:28:07.960 a long time ago. But the fact that I was 1:28:08.080 --> 1:28:11.840 just like you were everywhere and listen some of it 1:28:12.080 --> 1:28:16.040 was us, you know, putting things together in pieces and assets, 1:28:16.080 --> 1:28:18.840 and some of it was just the universe like just 1:28:19.040 --> 1:28:21.439 like it's sprinkled. It's time to you know, put us 1:28:21.640 --> 1:28:24.640 drop some tank content. Drop the tank content. Um. And 1:28:24.960 --> 1:28:26.960 so I'm just I'm just thankful to the universe and 1:28:27.000 --> 1:28:30.080 the people who just lended that to us. Um. So 1:28:30.200 --> 1:28:34.240 we were just on the show singing, you know, singing good. 1:28:34.520 --> 1:28:37.960 You know what I'm saying. Um, still having it very 1:28:38.040 --> 1:28:42.719 tapped into our our youthful presence and our youthful gifts. Okay, 1:28:42.760 --> 1:28:48.200 we're still here. What is what is little more doing 1:28:49.160 --> 1:28:51.800 now and moving forward? What is the plan? What is 1:28:51.840 --> 1:28:56.200 it called? Honestly, I'm back to the sacrificial lamb. I'm 1:28:56.800 --> 1:28:59.600 extending my time. So my son is thirteen, that was 1:28:59.640 --> 1:29:02.560 sing these niggas under a bus, but he wants to 1:29:02.600 --> 1:29:04.640 be a rapper because he said nobody sings anymore and 1:29:04.680 --> 1:29:06.519 they keep on saying R and B is dead, but 1:29:06.680 --> 1:29:12.639 it's not. It's not. I'm just like, no, you should 1:29:12.680 --> 1:29:17.320 sing your last longer. So he'd rather be I didn't 1:29:17.360 --> 1:29:20.680 do that, and I was like, I told him that 1:29:21.120 --> 1:29:23.120 he doesn't listen to me. So I told him to 1:29:23.200 --> 1:29:26.559 remake a specific song because I'm just like he came 1:29:26.560 --> 1:29:29.120 out the womb singing. One time he cried in church 1:29:29.200 --> 1:29:31.200 and Kimberrells there. She was like, whose baby is that? 1:29:31.320 --> 1:29:33.519 They cried on key? And I raised my head. She said, 1:29:33.520 --> 1:29:39.439 that would be your kid. You know what that means? 1:29:39.840 --> 1:29:42.360 He cried a perfect pitch, so what the organ was played? 1:29:42.720 --> 1:29:44.400 He cried and I was just like, we used to 1:29:44.439 --> 1:29:46.479 call him fussy just because he used to cross so much. 1:29:47.040 --> 1:29:50.960 But he whined and it gave like a yes, and 1:29:51.040 --> 1:29:52.400 I was like, how did they hear that? I was 1:29:52.479 --> 1:29:54.200 so embarrassed. I was like, why will you do this 1:29:54.280 --> 1:29:57.680 when kim Morella's on stay? But I get it, and 1:29:57.760 --> 1:30:02.439 I'm like, listen, son, under stand it's this generation z. 1:30:03.120 --> 1:30:07.200 They're different. They're different. But what I've learned then I 1:30:07.320 --> 1:30:11.240 can place in him and I can sacrifice myself a 1:30:11.320 --> 1:30:12.760 little bit more like I'm gonna go out here and 1:30:12.800 --> 1:30:15.479 saying these old that Saul child. But so far people 1:30:15.520 --> 1:30:17.920 have been loving and liking it. And I've been the 1:30:18.000 --> 1:30:23.719 bag been going jam, yeah, you got jam jams jams, 1:30:23.920 --> 1:30:26.559 and I got and I got a question actually to okay, 1:30:26.680 --> 1:30:34.280 I got to was forever the answer to jagged edges. 1:30:34.400 --> 1:30:38.000 Let's get me. One know what's crazy? Did Brian cot 1:30:38.040 --> 1:30:42.759 St Let's get married? Yes, Yes, I'm pretty sure it's crazy. 1:30:43.680 --> 1:30:47.120 I was recording. I was he did you shot him 1:30:47.160 --> 1:30:48.880 out in the beginning of the song becos One know 1:30:48.920 --> 1:30:51.760 what's crazy is I didn't even hear when I was 1:30:51.920 --> 1:30:54.160 That's when I was recording Uh Meet the Girl, Let's 1:30:54.200 --> 1:30:56.240 do album mind Job was not much pregnant, so I 1:30:56.320 --> 1:30:59.360 sat down the whole session. Beacox came to the studio. 1:30:59.439 --> 1:31:00.920 He was like, I song for y'all want you to 1:31:01.000 --> 1:31:03.360 listen to? He might have would I might have to 1:31:03.400 --> 1:31:04.800 give it to somebody else. He was like, if you 1:31:04.840 --> 1:31:06.920 don't feel As soon as I heard but the piano 1:31:06.960 --> 1:31:08.479 had been I was like, I wanted. He was like, 1:31:09.040 --> 1:31:10.760 are you sure I want to record it right now? 1:31:11.600 --> 1:31:13.840 I want to sat down then write nothing down and 1:31:14.439 --> 1:31:16.720 none of those words wrong baby and my the point 1:31:16.760 --> 1:31:19.240 in my life when I'm tired of playing games, I'm 1:31:19.280 --> 1:31:21.160 ready to settle down. The only part that I've ready 1:31:21.240 --> 1:31:23.920 bio like when you listen to the verses, none of 1:31:23.960 --> 1:31:26.519 the ship rome. But I think I was in such 1:31:26.560 --> 1:31:28.599 a space my first child was about to be born. 1:31:28.800 --> 1:31:33.400 I was hyped. Yeah, anytime I hear piano? You know 1:31:33.439 --> 1:31:36.960 you answer my question? Right? What's you're saying? I know, 1:31:37.080 --> 1:31:38.760 I want to listen to no music? My bad? I 1:31:38.880 --> 1:31:42.120 was recording my how so it's not the answer to it. Wait, 1:31:42.200 --> 1:31:44.000 what's the you asked me? You said, did I hear 1:31:44.080 --> 1:31:47.040 jagging a song? No? No? I said no, not even that. Everybody, 1:31:47.520 --> 1:31:52.400 what you're saying, let's saying it wasn't the answer to that. 1:31:52.439 --> 1:31:54.240 I'm saying was that the I was asking? Was that 1:31:54.280 --> 1:31:59.960 the answered because y'all also both say, you know, well, 1:32:00.040 --> 1:32:06.800 what was crazy? Was Nigga saying? When I heard listen 1:32:06.960 --> 1:32:09.160 when I heard that lyric? I said, When I heard 1:32:09.240 --> 1:32:12.280 Let's get I said, that's a horrible lyric, I said, 1:32:12.360 --> 1:32:16.200 but but it's a very weird. What's all that? What 1:32:16.439 --> 1:32:18.880 it is came out? I think There's Mother came out 1:32:19.040 --> 1:32:22.640 like ninety nine or two. Yeah, yeah, it was a 1:32:22.880 --> 1:32:25.080 very real lyric. We ain't getting no younger, so we 1:32:25.200 --> 1:32:27.800 might as well do it, like yeah, and I was 1:32:27.840 --> 1:32:30.680 like getting no younger, babe, And I was like, I 1:32:30.760 --> 1:32:33.840 ain't going nowhere. You ain't gonnawhere? Like did you write 1:32:33.880 --> 1:32:35.439 no my issues? And you know, I look at what 1:32:35.520 --> 1:32:38.639 I'm a wig what's up? You know? I look, if 1:32:38.680 --> 1:32:46.960 a nigga married you without your wig's ups it's all 1:32:47.000 --> 1:32:52.600 the way I might run if that he loved you. 1:32:55.320 --> 1:32:57.719 Waking up with the goose more, waking over that Florida. 1:32:58.600 --> 1:33:00.479 That's you. That's how you you all? Right Now, I 1:33:00.560 --> 1:33:12.640 got I got you. I'm I'm with But when you 1:33:12.760 --> 1:33:14.200 have like when you take your wig off and put 1:33:14.240 --> 1:33:15.720 on a dresser and then you got to meet meal, 1:33:15.800 --> 1:33:19.120 braid's going big if he's like, I mean there like 1:33:19.240 --> 1:33:22.400 a um a mannequin head that you put it on 1:33:22.520 --> 1:33:24.360 and you just put it on the dresser. Now you 1:33:24.479 --> 1:33:25.840 just take it off, put it on a dresser and 1:33:26.000 --> 1:33:29.160 you just be like, don't mess with my wig, because 1:33:29.960 --> 1:33:32.080 back then was like yeah, like a hunter nadalm jomp 1:33:32.160 --> 1:33:34.960 be like a hundred dolt. That's why did you yo? 1:33:35.080 --> 1:33:38.320 I'll be reading memes the girl. This girl really acts. 1:33:38.360 --> 1:33:40.400 She said, So with the ten thousand for pseudo loans, 1:33:40.400 --> 1:33:42.320 are they't giving us the cash or is they gonna 1:33:42.320 --> 1:33:44.240 take it off the balance? Because I want the ten 1:33:44.280 --> 1:33:49.200 thousand can buy me. That's where it's at right now. 1:33:50.640 --> 1:33:53.559 That's why hair companies are making so much money. Who 1:33:53.600 --> 1:33:56.439 would have thought? Who would have thunk. They just they 1:33:56.520 --> 1:33:59.439 just haven't figured out the man wig just yet. Yeah, 1:33:59.680 --> 1:34:02.760 they have they figured it out. They have not. It's 1:34:02.800 --> 1:34:04.920 like some people that got but it's just like, no, 1:34:05.200 --> 1:34:09.519 that's not right about the wig, the full lace front 1:34:09.560 --> 1:34:12.960 shape up. Yeah, because didn't like I saw one. I 1:34:13.040 --> 1:34:18.360 saw one. I've been saying, they don't. They don't call 1:34:18.400 --> 1:34:20.040 the man. Remember they used to be two pages to 1:34:20.080 --> 1:34:23.320 be like that many they glued on and then they 1:34:23.439 --> 1:34:25.840 lying him. But then after they get hot and that 1:34:25.960 --> 1:34:33.720 they start moving. You ain't getting little younger. I saw 1:34:33.800 --> 1:34:41.559 him without his wig on, so without my My second 1:34:41.640 --> 1:34:44.479 question is I actually like keep sweat so on, making 1:34:44.560 --> 1:34:47.280 last forever. That's well, since we want to shout out 1:34:47.320 --> 1:34:51.040 to the sweat, Yeah, shout out to this I worked with. 1:34:52.960 --> 1:34:55.880 He worked with war going about this house and I remember, 1:34:55.880 --> 1:34:59.960 but he used to live at Alpharetta. They was cooking food. 1:35:00.040 --> 1:35:06.320 He was so well, no he can't, so goddamn twizzle. 1:35:09.439 --> 1:35:11.800 I worked WICKI so I did. I'll trade a million bucks. 1:35:12.680 --> 1:35:17.240 And he was in Alpharetta, Georgia. Alpharetta closes down at sundown. 1:35:18.080 --> 1:35:21.760 So like I was like, damn, somebody cooking. I'm think 1:35:21.760 --> 1:35:23.680 they're gonna bring us a plate. He're like, no, I'm 1:35:23.680 --> 1:35:25.000 about to go up he and eating. I gotta go 1:35:25.120 --> 1:35:28.160 do some running around some twig It was some twizzlers, 1:35:30.920 --> 1:35:35.800 go eat and he left. There was no door dash back. 1:35:36.800 --> 1:35:40.360 That was like years old, years ago. So I was 1:35:40.439 --> 1:35:42.800 just like dag. But when I say a low key 1:35:42.840 --> 1:35:45.599 s so I remember the label. They was like make 1:35:45.760 --> 1:35:48.800 um keeps saying these background He said, Man, tell them 1:35:48.920 --> 1:35:50.800 kiss my ass. They can't tell me what to do. 1:35:51.800 --> 1:35:53.519 And I'm gonna just do one track of my boy's 1:35:53.560 --> 1:36:00.640 gonna cut right through right. You've seen the cut right there, 1:36:00.720 --> 1:36:02.280 then you do the rest. I ain't doing all that. 1:36:02.360 --> 1:36:05.600 Ship back, ye, I don't do all that. Yeah, tells 1:36:05.640 --> 1:36:08.720 ain't doing yes, So you focus on your son right now. 1:36:08.800 --> 1:36:11.680 You're focused on the future on my son. Like are 1:36:11.720 --> 1:36:16.760 you gonna do anymore? Are you doing anymore? People want? 1:36:16.800 --> 1:36:19.360 I actually have some songs coming, like some features with 1:36:19.479 --> 1:36:21.680 some What's crazy is it's like a lot of the 1:36:21.880 --> 1:36:24.559 artists that are young, so I'm doing some things with them, 1:36:24.600 --> 1:36:26.280 and then I have some songs that's in the tuck, 1:36:26.680 --> 1:36:28.760 like I got songs like Todd Dollars sign. I'm just like, 1:36:28.840 --> 1:36:31.920 how are we gonna put this out this right because 1:36:31.920 --> 1:36:33.640 I don't know him since he was a bank I 1:36:33.800 --> 1:36:36.960 know everybody says they were babies like fifteen years old 1:36:37.000 --> 1:36:40.840 playing that Jay Brown's wedding, So it's like we got 1:36:40.840 --> 1:36:44.040 this song because that's what goes like. So you know, 1:36:45.120 --> 1:36:50.280 I'm I understand music has changed, but for the for me, 1:36:50.960 --> 1:36:53.400 I used to think that not my sound was not childish, 1:36:53.760 --> 1:36:57.720 but I realized it translated it. It has translated to 1:36:57.800 --> 1:36:59.720 this generation. So when they're here, they'd be like, oh 1:37:00.080 --> 1:37:03.360 so I don't sound like old lady. No, I don't 1:37:03.360 --> 1:37:05.280 say like so when they be like, hey, Auntimo, like 1:37:05.439 --> 1:37:07.760 I get it. I respect that. Like are you cool 1:37:07.800 --> 1:37:12.519 with being called antimo? Yes, because there's a thing right 1:37:13.439 --> 1:37:18.200 amongst women, yeah, that they don't like being called auntie. 1:37:18.800 --> 1:37:21.120 I love it, you love it? Yeah, okay, little more 1:37:21.200 --> 1:37:27.760 loves now it's different. I'm cool with that. I didn't. 1:37:27.800 --> 1:37:30.560 I didn't want to be for a minute, I love it. 1:37:30.800 --> 1:37:32.280 I didn't want to be. I feel like it's like 1:37:32.360 --> 1:37:37.120 the leader again. It just seemed like I woke up 1:37:37.160 --> 1:37:40.400 one day and it was just it was just overwhelming 1:37:40.439 --> 1:37:43.439 amount of unc and O G. And I was like, 1:37:43.640 --> 1:37:47.120 has it happened that as I'm plucking the graves out 1:37:47.160 --> 1:37:53.360 of my beer and I'm like, it's happening to you. 1:37:56.680 --> 1:37:58.120 It was just like when you when you get that show. 1:38:00.040 --> 1:38:14.439 This is what they do. Y okay? So what age? What? Like? What? What? 1:38:14.880 --> 1:38:16.720 When is a good time? Because I always thought once 1:38:16.760 --> 1:38:20.840 you turn forty, like that's Auntie. I know there are 1:38:20.880 --> 1:38:24.439 people that don't call me women that just feel a 1:38:24.520 --> 1:38:27.200 way about that. I think it's a term of endearment, 1:38:27.520 --> 1:38:29.479 like what she is. When they'd be like, that's my bitch, 1:38:29.520 --> 1:38:30.800 and I'd be like, that's cool, but don't call me 1:38:30.840 --> 1:38:32.920 that no more like if you don't know me like that, 1:38:33.160 --> 1:38:35.680 you feel me be like yo, because we say that 1:38:35.760 --> 1:38:37.800 Baltimore has a term of endearment. There are certain things 1:38:37.840 --> 1:38:39.920 that we said. But when they'd be like auntiem or 1:38:40.000 --> 1:38:41.880 when I go to my to my son's all my 1:38:41.920 --> 1:38:44.120 son's football preak, just all the kids be like ah mo, 1:38:44.520 --> 1:38:48.000 And I love it because the aunt has always been 1:38:48.080 --> 1:38:50.840 the mom that wasn't your mom. You could go to 1:38:50.920 --> 1:38:57.799 your hunt you understand. Yeah, I know people that's Auntie 1:38:58.280 --> 1:39:03.120 like like they're the same, just they like section that's 1:39:03.120 --> 1:39:05.600 the hood. Yeah, that's the hood for you. Yeah, So 1:39:08.080 --> 1:39:11.400 that because the aunt bag then was like if he 1:39:11.520 --> 1:39:13.720 was an auntie, it was just like that mans that 1:39:13.880 --> 1:39:16.920 you was older. But now it's just like aunties grandmas 1:39:17.400 --> 1:39:20.040 and like we don't like I feel like auntie is 1:39:20.120 --> 1:39:25.000 the flies of all the things you can I ride 1:39:25.040 --> 1:39:28.120 in yourself. It's cool. I should watch my uncle get 1:39:28.160 --> 1:39:31.200 flying for all that fucking this rode he put his 1:39:31.280 --> 1:39:34.040 smell good. That smell good. Tell me how you know 1:39:34.080 --> 1:39:35.599 you gotta take care of the lady. You gotta open 1:39:35.640 --> 1:39:37.800 the door and make sure they got flowers and that. 1:39:39.479 --> 1:39:41.719 You know, I'm saying so like that, no more start 1:39:42.320 --> 1:39:44.080 Yeah I am. You know, I'm saying, shout out to 1:39:44.120 --> 1:39:46.040 the o G in the field and that's me. Yeah. 1:39:47.000 --> 1:39:50.200 You know. You know what's crazy is many people won't 1:39:50.240 --> 1:39:51.960 make it to for people to even care about them, 1:39:53.400 --> 1:39:55.400 Like look at the comments and be like that, oh 1:39:55.479 --> 1:40:00.200 there's bitch what they like? No people just I'm like, 1:40:00.240 --> 1:40:03.160 how do Instagram let this one go through? Something? The 1:40:03.240 --> 1:40:05.559 other day? Now, somebody was on the internet the other 1:40:05.640 --> 1:40:07.320 day was like I had sex was something something, And 1:40:07.400 --> 1:40:09.479 I was like cap all I said was cap. I 1:40:09.600 --> 1:40:12.120 was like, what story was? People like you too old 1:40:12.120 --> 1:40:13.400 to be talking at younger I was like, I just 1:40:13.800 --> 1:40:16.040 all I said, all I said was calp. I didn't 1:40:16.040 --> 1:40:18.559 say what part was cap. All I said was cap 1:40:18.680 --> 1:40:21.400 And y'all got y'all let it, y'all let that round, y'all. 1:40:21.479 --> 1:40:26.120 Luck y'all gave me too much power to yea, and 1:40:26.280 --> 1:40:29.320 my whole jot was bring I'm thinking this cash chap 1:40:29.439 --> 1:40:35.120 and this nigga a lie in peace. No with the ogs. 1:40:35.120 --> 1:40:37.519 We're not standing for the lot. It's a it's a 1:40:37.600 --> 1:40:43.080 it's an aspiration day. That mess R and B h R. 1:40:43.520 --> 1:40:45.599 You need some R and B information for me, Okay, 1:40:48.000 --> 1:40:52.960 you like you got like what kind of like what 1:40:53.080 --> 1:40:55.120 type of what type of airpo? Because you have to 1:40:55.160 --> 1:41:06.320 be because I started talking about okay, top five in 1:41:06.400 --> 1:41:13.000 the world or like dead are live? Top five R 1:41:13.120 --> 1:41:23.240 and B artists female female and knows it's yours. It ain't. 1:41:23.280 --> 1:41:31.559 Don't don't make it politically correct, yours. Whitney Houston m hm, whim. 1:41:31.560 --> 1:41:35.559 Try to think of chah. I don't gonna look through 1:41:35.600 --> 1:41:37.360 my phone. Who I'll be listening because I listened to 1:41:38.120 --> 1:41:46.679 the most weirdest nest. Oh God, Joe, Yeah that's one. Yeah, 1:41:47.200 --> 1:41:52.240 because that's that was a sound. Um, Who do let 1:41:52.280 --> 1:41:55.559 me try to think who I listened to Anita Baker. 1:41:56.080 --> 1:42:01.160 I was just like, you could clean That's why I 1:42:01.200 --> 1:42:03.160 know people house do you could clean your whole house? 1:42:04.040 --> 1:42:08.000 To Anitas for a champagne on us this time? No, Yeah, 1:42:08.040 --> 1:42:09.600 I was just you know, I just saw her. I 1:42:09.720 --> 1:42:12.200 just saw her. Yeah. That was like a slick. That 1:42:12.320 --> 1:42:15.519 was like a slick flick. What you know what Anita 1:42:15.560 --> 1:42:17.080 said to me? What did she say? She said to you? 1:42:17.120 --> 1:42:19.400 Because she never said anything to me? What did she say? 1:42:19.560 --> 1:42:23.840 Anita said? Anita said, you can't leave us? Now? Why 1:42:23.960 --> 1:42:29.240 was she saying? What does she say? She just looked 1:42:29.280 --> 1:42:35.479 at me. She's like, She's like, you can't leave us? Confirmation? 1:42:37.200 --> 1:42:39.519 How do you even know? I'm trying to get you 1:42:39.600 --> 1:42:41.479 not to retire. I'm trying to figure out how she 1:42:41.600 --> 1:42:53.040 even knows. Baker says, you can't retire Anita Anita in 1:42:53.200 --> 1:42:56.960 her own in her own stress dimension, her own realm. 1:42:57.400 --> 1:43:00.320 That way, you don't have to concern herself. And she 1:43:00.360 --> 1:43:04.439 said to Reill, can that retire? So okay? Neither, But 1:43:04.560 --> 1:43:10.240 I'm sorry, ship, Yeah, that hurt. That hurt me. You 1:43:10.360 --> 1:43:17.439 heard it here first. He's probably not retiring. Go ahead, Baker, 1:43:18.000 --> 1:43:23.639 you kill. I'm gonna tell you so y'all might not remember, 1:43:23.800 --> 1:43:26.040 but I listened to his songs and he's went on 1:43:26.520 --> 1:43:30.680 Kenny Green. We not what because a lot of people like, 1:43:30.960 --> 1:43:34.040 what do you remember? His song made you a crown 1:43:34.200 --> 1:43:39.120 and call y'all this version in the sky. So I'm 1:43:39.439 --> 1:43:44.360 I'm naming like people. Ken Come on, come on, give 1:43:44.439 --> 1:43:46.320 us some you know what, Give give him some Kenny 1:43:46.360 --> 1:43:48.600 Green history for the people who don't know Kenny Green. Like, 1:43:49.880 --> 1:43:53.360 Kenny Green was special, yea, he was ahead of time. 1:43:53.360 --> 1:43:55.559 And I remember what I meant in my cry because 1:43:55.560 --> 1:43:57.320 I was like, I don't think you realized how much 1:43:57.320 --> 1:43:59.519 you changed. And he was sitting there like this, like 1:44:00.040 --> 1:44:04.720 thought he was gonna be like like arrogant or he 1:44:04.880 --> 1:44:06.519 was just like he was like, I was like, wait, 1:44:06.720 --> 1:44:12.240 why did you back with? Nikenny Green was the amazing 1:44:12.360 --> 1:44:15.840 group intro he was he did all of them leave 1:44:16.000 --> 1:44:22.800 because he was inside let me monster like I'll keep you, 1:44:23.280 --> 1:44:27.439 I'll keep you satisfied the way his monster. Come on, 1:44:27.600 --> 1:44:32.719 Kenny Green. Okay, that's four. One more. That's four because 1:44:32.720 --> 1:44:38.040 it's more than five, but one, lady, two and two 1:44:38.560 --> 1:44:45.639 are two and five, so now that is one. It's 1:44:45.680 --> 1:44:49.360 really Casey and judea no no no, just one because divine, 1:44:51.920 --> 1:44:56.760 don't forget about and don't no no no, no no 1:44:56.840 --> 1:45:04.240 no and singing leave and singing lead? What's he's singing 1:45:04.320 --> 1:45:08.800 lead on multiple songs? And caseop thinking he's singing lead 1:45:09.240 --> 1:45:12.400 because they have a similar tone during the lead, not 1:45:12.560 --> 1:45:18.760 at singing lead because and it was more quartet. I 1:45:18.920 --> 1:45:32.160 get it, and uh five, I'm trying to think like 1:45:33.040 --> 1:45:34.760 who I will see and I would be yelling at 1:45:34.840 --> 1:45:37.040 so like I like when I get to say people's songs, Okay, 1:45:37.080 --> 1:45:44.920 I don't want to sing. You know, you got five kids. 1:45:44.960 --> 1:45:47.880 You need to have a top five. These kids gotta 1:45:47.880 --> 1:45:53.040 have somebody, don't that? Can we come back to the 1:45:53.120 --> 1:45:57.000 no no, don't do that. Mo oh my god, come 1:45:59.760 --> 1:46:02.160 come mom. Like I really can't think of no names 1:46:03.439 --> 1:46:06.920 all this R and B you've been singing with. These 1:46:07.000 --> 1:46:11.040 people are people you've been in the studio with songs with, 1:46:11.680 --> 1:46:16.240 Because I'd be like, even if it's even if it's 1:46:16.280 --> 1:46:18.360 a forbidden name, you can say the name. You can 1:46:18.479 --> 1:46:23.200 say say what you gotta say, likely man at you, 1:46:25.560 --> 1:46:30.719 it's really going Because I'm trying to think, oh ahead, 1:46:30.800 --> 1:46:34.240 say it. I can't think of who it is. Like 1:46:35.520 --> 1:46:40.840 then I would say, Brandy, that Full More album changed 1:46:40.840 --> 1:46:47.720 my life. No one argue Brandy. Absolutely, I used to 1:46:47.760 --> 1:46:49.240 listen to that. Why are you listening to that before 1:46:49.240 --> 1:46:55.760 your show? Nickas? But now I think about it, all 1:46:55.800 --> 1:46:58.160 the people that I've named is always the people that's 1:46:58.680 --> 1:47:00.920 bringing out that. He brought out a sound that was 1:47:00.960 --> 1:47:06.920 a whole sound that people try to emulatelate to this day. 1:47:06.920 --> 1:47:11.840 And I'd be like, y'all's not the messy oil. Yes, 1:47:12.160 --> 1:47:16.400 so it's just like but those like I would say 1:47:16.479 --> 1:47:21.800 like that I would listen to before show. But yeah, 1:47:23.560 --> 1:47:26.880 you have to explain your five five And it's crazy, 1:47:26.960 --> 1:47:30.679 is I've only one I've seen a concerts probably Brandy. 1:47:33.760 --> 1:47:36.960 I've never been to a Whitney Houston concert. I've never 1:47:37.080 --> 1:47:39.320 been to a jod to see concert I have. I 1:47:39.560 --> 1:47:41.880 I've never been to an early I've been the Casey 1:47:41.920 --> 1:47:46.559 and Jojo And that's when it was, I know, crazy, 1:47:48.320 --> 1:47:51.000 stupid crazy. But remember when he was walking out or 1:47:52.920 --> 1:47:57.240 a chicken wing, Remember he grabbed a wing off that 1:47:58.200 --> 1:48:01.040 if we had a show with them. They were singing 1:48:01.200 --> 1:48:09.200 background for father and see treat, what treat? Remember they 1:48:09.240 --> 1:48:16.160 were singing like John everybody That's why when I think 1:48:16.200 --> 1:48:21.240 we did either Jack the Rapper or the b R. Yeah, 1:48:21.720 --> 1:48:25.360 they were singing church. I didn't know that. Remember they 1:48:25.400 --> 1:48:28.240 used to get was only fifteen at that time, they 1:48:28.280 --> 1:48:31.920 were kids. Yeah, and that's why I remember. Remember what 1:48:32.040 --> 1:48:34.960 was Donnie Soul show video Soul and they were like, 1:48:35.240 --> 1:48:37.360 so what are your family? I remember because I used 1:48:37.360 --> 1:48:40.439 to study people's interviews, what do your family thing about 1:48:40.479 --> 1:48:43.680 you singing? Because they came up like apostolic holiness. I 1:48:43.760 --> 1:48:47.360 remember going to Bishop Yes, but I went to Johnny 1:48:47.400 --> 1:48:49.800 Graves church one time because one of the Graves used 1:48:49.800 --> 1:48:51.160 to go to school with me. So I went to 1:48:51.240 --> 1:48:53.320 the church. They used to win the Doyles and baby, 1:48:53.439 --> 1:48:56.519 you wasn't coming there with no pants. So when they 1:48:56.640 --> 1:48:58.040 was like, you know, our parents just like you know, 1:48:58.120 --> 1:49:00.719 you ain't living right, and I was just like, don't understand. 1:49:02.080 --> 1:49:05.200 So when they formed circles around me in church, I 1:49:05.320 --> 1:49:07.080 used to crawl for money. You ain't about to m 1:49:08.040 --> 1:49:10.920 just man, because you ain't get chosen. I'm gonna talk 1:49:10.960 --> 1:49:18.800 about it. Okay, Top five R and B Songs mail 1:49:18.840 --> 1:49:28.120 or top Okay our group, Okay, our group love me better, Kenny, 1:49:28.360 --> 1:49:30.639 like I wish I could write like that so abstract, 1:49:30.680 --> 1:49:35.400 like what made him think of it that? Um, please 1:49:35.800 --> 1:49:39.240 don't go don't you don't have to do that. I 1:49:39.240 --> 1:49:45.120 don't think you understand. I don't think you understand that 1:49:47.320 --> 1:49:49.600 because when people go to the false set up and 1:49:49.680 --> 1:49:53.160 it's just as effective as full voice, you can't leave us. 1:49:53.800 --> 1:49:55.479 I can't leave it. Don't don't try to need of me. 1:49:55.680 --> 1:49:58.240 Don't you know there's a reason. And if you think 1:49:58.280 --> 1:50:00.320 she'd wait too, Yeah, it's gonna be some what people 1:50:00.360 --> 1:50:03.840 just like you can't like those kind of gifts, don't 1:50:03.920 --> 1:50:12.000 they don't come around? Yeah? Yeah, um yeah, um full Moon, 1:50:12.400 --> 1:50:21.479 I ain't even want to run. Come on, man, come on, man, 1:50:22.400 --> 1:50:26.080 come on. If you like she would say, get it 1:50:26.120 --> 1:50:30.200 crack and if you like, must be a ful that. 1:50:30.479 --> 1:50:41.559 So that's three. Um oh, I hate that. I love 1:50:41.640 --> 1:50:43.400 this song because I know this person is not supposed 1:50:43.439 --> 1:50:49.280 to be light, but come on, one of the okay, 1:50:49.320 --> 1:50:52.720 come on, No matter what people think. One of the 1:50:52.920 --> 1:50:55.960 best written songs to me in the world was the 1:50:56.040 --> 1:51:07.560 best sex I've had by R Kelly. Sure craz came on, 1:51:08.280 --> 1:51:11.200 but I first came on. And I want to know 1:51:11.240 --> 1:51:13.719 another fun fact. You know I'm full of fun facts. 1:51:14.160 --> 1:51:17.320 What I want to know because this is like, so 1:51:18.200 --> 1:51:24.240 what from Happily ever After? Case? That's from case Wait, 1:51:25.840 --> 1:51:31.960 mabe what part? Go ahead? Come on, come on wait. 1:51:32.120 --> 1:51:38.439 Wasn't that song before? No no, ive never happen first. No, no, no, 1:51:39.160 --> 1:51:41.600 there is no. I don't know, there is no. I 1:51:41.640 --> 1:51:44.280 don't know. There is no. I don't know. Shout out 1:51:44.280 --> 1:51:49.559 to Joe Joe Brown, shout out my guy, um um 1:51:49.880 --> 1:51:56.360 um Chris Chris. Oh god, I can't think of Chris's 1:51:56.439 --> 1:51:57.840 last name because we got a lot of going on. 1:52:00.760 --> 1:52:04.120 I'm trying to figure out what my guy got paid 1:52:04.200 --> 1:52:06.840 for that. Oh no, no, no, no, no, I believe you, 1:52:06.920 --> 1:52:12.280 but I don't know. We're gonna get same facts. The 1:52:12.439 --> 1:52:17.360 Greatest Sex is a take from cases Happily ever After. 1:52:29.160 --> 1:52:41.720 I dude, you gonna put him side side was the 1:52:41.760 --> 1:52:44.720 one that had found out and be like, oh Chris, 1:52:45.080 --> 1:52:47.200 I can't think of his last name. It's it's I'm 1:52:47.240 --> 1:52:49.360 missing I'm Chris. This is my guy for you too. 1:52:49.520 --> 1:52:53.560 My apologies brother, when you see this. This is a 1:52:53.560 --> 1:52:56.639 shout out to you. No no, no, no, absolutely because 1:52:56.680 --> 1:52:59.599 it was and I remember the time when it happened. 1:52:59.640 --> 1:53:02.479 It's no, no, no, he had to change. He had 1:53:02.800 --> 1:53:05.240 he had to. He had to that brother publish. Yeah, 1:53:05.240 --> 1:53:09.280 he changed it a little bit. But now you greats sex. 1:53:09.600 --> 1:53:13.360 But ya. But when I heard Greatest Sex, I say, 1:53:13.400 --> 1:53:22.840 he beat me again. Damn it. I used like I 1:53:23.000 --> 1:53:27.640 love drama, was like he beat me and King I 1:53:27.680 --> 1:53:29.760 used to always be like this, I'm a catching, I'm 1:53:29.800 --> 1:53:32.080 a guin. Oh I'm gonna kill him with this one. 1:53:32.120 --> 1:53:34.679 And then I heard greaterst Sex. I was like, I lost, 1:53:36.360 --> 1:53:41.400 but but comma no with me, just like like you know, 1:53:41.640 --> 1:53:44.840 like you you know when you hear you hear something, 1:53:44.960 --> 1:53:47.680 you oh, God like what made him thinking that? I 1:53:48.000 --> 1:53:53.519 wish I had written and produced that song and sang 1:53:53.600 --> 1:54:01.439 it that way. Chris Henderson, Chris Henderson, Steve Henderson, Why okay? 1:54:01.600 --> 1:54:07.439 Chris deep ended yes, yes, happily ever half okay? All right? Okay? 1:54:07.479 --> 1:54:09.760 That that it was a three number four was four, 1:54:10.040 --> 1:54:16.080 and I would say five mm hmm, let me take 1:54:16.280 --> 1:54:22.519 because there's some songs, uh I love sweet love Bonita Baker. 1:54:23.680 --> 1:54:25.479 I added that to myself because I was just like, 1:54:27.120 --> 1:54:29.080 do you do you know? All right? That's do it? 1:54:29.240 --> 1:54:34.440 I love those give us a little sweet love you baby, 1:54:35.200 --> 1:54:36.920 she said with all my heart I love were you're 1:54:36.960 --> 1:54:39.720 telling me I love you. I'm gonna give you something 1:54:39.760 --> 1:54:48.120 to sweet love good name. I don't know. I feel 1:54:48.200 --> 1:54:54.920 no calling off my name. You don't love me. If 1:54:54.960 --> 1:54:56.880 you don't tell me that you don't love me, you 1:54:57.000 --> 1:54:59.320 do not love me. If you don't tell me that, 1:55:00.040 --> 1:55:04.360 Haul it out, man, and don't feel feel no shame. 1:55:04.640 --> 1:55:13.520 There was no social media because now you like there 1:55:13.560 --> 1:55:15.520 was no shame back then you knew your granddaddy had 1:55:15.760 --> 1:55:19.120 three fans. Now that no shame is to another level 1:55:19.160 --> 1:55:23.080 because if you say that and some little hood roach 1:55:23.680 --> 1:55:26.200 go and say she no I and you still don't 1:55:26.200 --> 1:55:29.280 feel away about it. Yeah, that means that man. Yeah, 1:55:29.280 --> 1:55:30.680 because you know, at the end of the day, she 1:55:31.520 --> 1:55:33.960 she ain't gonna do nothing. But yeah, because we ain't 1:55:33.960 --> 1:55:38.720 getting no younger, because we already already knew my granddaddy 1:55:38.760 --> 1:55:44.080 had different family damn families. What in his church? I 1:55:44.160 --> 1:55:46.360 found out out later. I was like, he was outside, 1:55:46.440 --> 1:55:50.000 but I get it he's inside too, that way, that way, 1:55:51.800 --> 1:55:55.400 probably with a tony. I'm sure you had to fly young, 1:55:55.720 --> 1:56:16.440 you feel me? Yeah, he first row. You know they've 1:56:16.480 --> 1:56:19.000 thrown them over their head. Now the girls, who is 1:56:19.320 --> 1:56:25.720 all right? Okay? Okay, I love it here, it is 1:56:26.680 --> 1:56:32.080 your place. We're gonna do an R and B voltron Okay, 1:56:32.320 --> 1:56:35.400 you're gonna build. You're gonna build the R and B artists. Okay, 1:56:36.040 --> 1:56:46.080 it's gonna be vocal um style presentation performances they bob 1:56:46.960 --> 1:56:55.400 and their passion. I remember missing one vocal style performance 1:56:56.200 --> 1:57:01.120 and passion swag the whole. Think. That's why I think 1:57:01.400 --> 1:57:09.560 for weeks there, because we've got the coldest who got 1:57:09.640 --> 1:57:19.160 the chop Rick James? Maybe he keep it yo, he 1:57:19.320 --> 1:57:22.360 was outside what he was outside. I don't even know 1:57:22.400 --> 1:57:25.120 if we could have another Rick James. That's why I'm like, 1:57:25.200 --> 1:57:29.200 it's the only certain people, because you know what's happening 1:57:29.240 --> 1:57:33.320 when he's making that song. You know what's going on 1:57:33.440 --> 1:57:39.960 in that studio session. And yeah, okay, so yeah, let's 1:57:40.040 --> 1:57:42.560 let's start with the vocals piece it together. Who are 1:57:42.600 --> 1:57:44.720 you going to grab the vocal from to build your 1:57:44.800 --> 1:57:53.520 RMB artist? Who's the vocal you're taking m there? Well 1:57:53.560 --> 1:57:56.960 have to be yours, because I'll be hearing people without 1:57:57.040 --> 1:57:59.680 the without the order to live on the microt who 1:58:00.000 --> 1:58:05.160 would know what that? So, yeah, you don't miss your 1:58:05.200 --> 1:58:07.120 niggas is sick for putting auto tune on your mike, 1:58:07.280 --> 1:58:10.840 go ahead because saying the kid, and they don't push 1:58:10.920 --> 1:58:14.120 it because people don't understand auto tune was not created 1:58:15.080 --> 1:58:20.680 equally jobbed to be singing with the auto tune my 1:58:21.160 --> 1:58:23.880 messing like listen, I literally bought that mike for my 1:58:24.080 --> 1:58:27.280 kids that shout out to tea pain and the money 1:58:27.360 --> 1:58:29.480 he made that you should sell with this store that 1:58:29.640 --> 1:58:33.960 doesn't exist anymore called toys Arrest. Do they have the 1:58:34.000 --> 1:58:38.440 autotun mike? They have and you can order because I 1:58:38.520 --> 1:58:42.520 hope t Paine still get I think, because that ship 1:58:42.600 --> 1:58:45.520 is genius. But listen, that should not be used on 1:58:45.640 --> 1:58:51.720 a grand stage. That should not be you because and 1:58:51.800 --> 1:58:54.880 then when the system go out, see where you know 1:58:54.920 --> 1:58:56.520 what else we can with the time and not to 1:58:57.680 --> 1:59:03.600 remember when we don't need no music. Yeah, I mean 1:59:03.680 --> 1:59:06.840 stump your seat because we had been saying harmony at 1:59:06.920 --> 1:59:12.200 least three times today that way, no rehearsal. No, don't 1:59:13.160 --> 1:59:14.800 you know what's crazy? Is I love at two when 1:59:14.800 --> 1:59:23.120 you used correctly because it yeah, I think, Yeah, if 1:59:23.160 --> 1:59:28.040 we came to see a computer we didn't, we would 1:59:28.080 --> 1:59:35.880 go to a Max show. Yeah, I phone awards for 1:59:35.960 --> 1:59:41.360 that ship awards or whatever is I know one of 1:59:41.400 --> 1:59:46.160 them ships would the nerds be Yeah? And one time 1:59:46.160 --> 1:59:48.240 I tried and I was like, wait, I try to 1:59:48.320 --> 1:59:50.000 use on the terms, like why does it make me say? 1:59:50.680 --> 1:59:55.520 Because if you have rato, yeah you got you gotta 1:59:55.560 --> 2:00:00.280 push its like it pitched corresmatic family, you sing feeling 2:00:00.280 --> 2:00:05.440 because your chromatic very loose happens, no feeling and auto 2:00:05.520 --> 2:00:10.440 tune the computer don't got her heart. Don't talk about it, 2:00:10.520 --> 2:00:13.760 little mo dude, though, talk about it. Listen, We'll take, 2:00:14.480 --> 2:00:19.000 We'll take, We'll take, the listen. We would take that 2:00:19.160 --> 2:00:23.600 early Mary J. Blige with all that feeling and all 2:00:23.720 --> 2:00:27.600 that grit and all that over anything, with all the 2:00:27.720 --> 2:00:34.400 tune on it over because I've seen Mary lan and 2:00:35.000 --> 2:00:38.920 you could see her every night. She's gonna give it everything. 2:00:39.400 --> 2:00:43.520 She's God. When she passed, I want to pass it up, like, yeah, 2:00:44.240 --> 2:00:46.240 I'll take it. If you think I was yelling that 2:00:46.440 --> 2:00:48.760 night when you like, I get to be a fan. 2:00:48.920 --> 2:00:51.480 I still have the video. She came to Baltimore, so 2:00:51.680 --> 2:00:53.560 I performed with d nice and then Mary came out. 2:00:53.600 --> 2:00:55.120 When she does, I said, I hope when she did 2:00:55.200 --> 2:01:00.839 no more drama she passed out? Did she? Man? Tammy 2:01:01.120 --> 2:01:03.800 was there and I was just like, I think and 2:01:04.120 --> 2:01:05.720 not even go off on the tangent, but I think 2:01:05.840 --> 2:01:14.000 Mary J. Blige has the perfect song playlist of maybe 2:01:14.040 --> 2:01:17.240 any artists, so she part of in terms of music 2:01:17.960 --> 2:01:25.000 that that really resonates her, hire being like when Mary sings, 2:01:27.000 --> 2:01:29.000 you know what I love too. It's because when a 2:01:29.080 --> 2:01:30.560 lot of these are people like, oh my god, that's 2:01:30.560 --> 2:01:32.400 my favorite, I'm like, that's what's up. I'm not here 2:01:32.440 --> 2:01:34.320 to pick and choose who your favorite is, but I 2:01:34.400 --> 2:01:36.760 love artists that Okay, this is my set time, I 2:01:36.880 --> 2:01:39.880 understand it. But Mary's gonna give you testimony like then 2:01:39.960 --> 2:01:42.080 times they have to keep it, you know. But she'll 2:01:42.120 --> 2:01:43.640 talking between she be like, y'all don't know what I 2:01:43.760 --> 2:01:46.280 was going through. I would like, I love when she 2:01:46.400 --> 2:01:49.080 gets into that bag, like minutes to us, you're healing. 2:01:51.160 --> 2:01:54.280 So that's why divertized. I'll be like, look y'all when 2:01:54.320 --> 2:01:56.880 I listen, I'm singing all these damn love songs, but 2:01:56.960 --> 2:01:59.120 a bitch getting her ass beat at the house. Y'all 2:01:59.120 --> 2:02:02.360 have no idea your forby. So it's just like, you 2:02:02.440 --> 2:02:04.360 don't know how many people went through pain, so voice 2:02:04.400 --> 2:02:10.040 you passion Murray like her passion. This is never gonna 2:02:10.080 --> 2:02:11.880 be people like, oh my god, that's the new man. No, 2:02:12.160 --> 2:02:17.360 there's only don't do that Mary, and you can't put 2:02:17.440 --> 2:02:20.960 together a jean to see stop yeah, stop, even if 2:02:21.000 --> 2:02:23.120 you'll be jumping on like or you know what, I'm 2:02:25.200 --> 2:02:29.160 all the leathers in the desert. No, there'll never be 2:02:29.200 --> 2:02:32.360 another day of a mad bind never ever, ever ever 2:02:33.120 --> 2:02:38.800 shoulder at the part whatever, They'll never be style style trip, 2:02:40.600 --> 2:02:43.840 Who put that ship on? Go ahead and do that 2:02:44.120 --> 2:02:46.680 that little goofy dance that abb doing. Do the goofy 2:02:46.800 --> 2:02:50.440 dances somebody doing I know what you're talking about. Who 2:02:50.560 --> 2:02:59.839 be doing? Man, you gotta dan like, who'll be dressing 2:03:00.560 --> 2:03:04.440 the only person that honestly dresses of all time some time, 2:03:05.480 --> 2:03:08.360 all time time? We got some guys and girl girls 2:03:09.040 --> 2:03:11.840 give you this ship. The only person I know that 2:03:11.880 --> 2:03:14.560 I'll be like, Yo, they're gonna Mike. I love the 2:03:14.600 --> 2:03:18.240 way Mary dresses because she gonna wear boot like she's 2:03:18.240 --> 2:03:21.280 gonna give you like when she comes on, she's gonna 2:03:21.280 --> 2:03:28.560 give you how they put it on TV to be 2:03:30.200 --> 2:03:35.680 and I lift the she didn't you know what? Where 2:03:35.760 --> 2:03:37.520 with you a world stage? We're gonna put that on 2:03:37.640 --> 2:03:41.880 power tonight, Ye power book, this is gonna because she Yeah, 2:03:41.920 --> 2:03:45.560 she's gonna give you like she's gonna give you that 2:03:45.720 --> 2:03:48.240 crop like you know, she's gonna rock out. She's gonna 2:03:48.320 --> 2:03:54.880 rock out. Of all times, that part um stage performance 2:03:58.400 --> 2:04:01.320 let me trying to is that I'd be like like, 2:04:01.400 --> 2:04:07.760 I'll be like, yeah, I felt that. Um, I got 2:04:07.880 --> 2:04:11.080 start going to shows again because people still be so rehearsed, 2:04:12.080 --> 2:04:15.400 like there's one thing to rehearsed, but then there's like 2:04:15.920 --> 2:04:19.280 sometimes you're just getting that vibe people like you went 2:04:20.040 --> 2:04:24.400 you went past Yeah, you like like you just went sure, 2:04:24.520 --> 2:04:28.560 Yeah like you. It's rare for people to tap in. 2:04:28.640 --> 2:04:30.200 So I'm trying to think, like, what was the show 2:04:30.240 --> 2:04:32.680 I went too big in a day? Maybe that was 2:04:32.760 --> 2:04:39.400 just like Mary Mary cooking the day she's cooking. I 2:04:39.480 --> 2:04:44.320 watched Mary J. Blige on tour every night, sixty cities, 2:04:44.600 --> 2:04:51.320 sixty arenas sold out, and every uh, Drew Hill, Genuine 2:04:52.280 --> 2:04:57.200 and Aaliyah all will go right before Mary. Yeah, phone 2:04:57.200 --> 2:05:02.080 thugs are clothes and all the musicians, everybody, background singers. 2:05:02.360 --> 2:05:04.640 We would all go out and sit in the audience 2:05:05.200 --> 2:05:10.800 and watch Mary go to work every every night school 2:05:10.960 --> 2:05:15.480 was in session. That's why. I'm just like people don't 2:05:15.600 --> 2:05:22.520 realize like people because she getting what she should be 2:05:22.600 --> 2:05:25.360 higher than that does if people come out moth throw hurt. 2:05:25.400 --> 2:05:27.120 I'm just saying these three songs to go home, y'all 2:05:27.160 --> 2:05:30.960 get your money back. That's out of control. I know 2:05:31.080 --> 2:05:33.680 some people get eight hunted, like you gotta you gotta 2:05:33.720 --> 2:05:38.840 think about like when we're not we're not about a tour, 2:05:39.520 --> 2:05:43.880 about one off. I wasn't a tour. Do you listen? Eight? 2:05:46.680 --> 2:05:49.440 I don't know many people, but you know it's crazy 2:05:49.560 --> 2:05:56.800 million of show. Yeah, you're right, Well I think ain't 2:05:56.800 --> 2:06:00.480 a Nitta getting half a million? You just said no, 2:06:00.640 --> 2:06:02.240 But ain't she getting a half of she getting to 2:06:02.240 --> 2:06:06.640 half a man? Yeah? But like there's Anita, there's Murray, 2:06:06.760 --> 2:06:09.480 like I think she I think she's Mary is getting 2:06:09.520 --> 2:06:11.600 almost a million in the show. I think she deserves. 2:06:14.560 --> 2:06:17.040 I'm just thinking it speaks to you know what I'm saying. 2:06:18.520 --> 2:06:20.320 But when I was, she ain't coming out of the house. 2:06:20.440 --> 2:06:22.760 If you like, she ain't got to come up. She 2:06:22.840 --> 2:06:24.640 don't have to come up. But the let me tell 2:06:24.640 --> 2:06:29.200 you the blessing is because like being around her and 2:06:29.360 --> 2:06:33.760 just like seeing her from like Missy had me around Murray's. 2:06:35.280 --> 2:06:37.040 You know, you couldn't really fan out. You'd be like, yeah, 2:06:37.040 --> 2:06:39.240 I'm gonna go and do these backgrounds. And then when 2:06:39.280 --> 2:06:41.040 we were at that the first time I met her 2:06:41.120 --> 2:06:43.160 and saw her and I was about to lose my 2:06:43.280 --> 2:06:45.680 mind was at the Hot Boys video set. We was 2:06:45.720 --> 2:06:48.160 at two o'clock in the morning. My sister had my nephew, 2:06:48.160 --> 2:06:50.000 I think he was like one years old then, and 2:06:50.160 --> 2:06:52.840 Mary and Latanya had came and We're like, oh my god. 2:06:54.840 --> 2:06:56.560 But you know, people are like, oh, you're not allowed 2:06:56.560 --> 2:06:59.600 to talk to them, and I'm like why, Like this, 2:06:59.760 --> 2:07:02.640 what ain't do? Mary came to us in our trail 2:07:02.680 --> 2:07:05.760 and she was like, I love your wigs. Well, I'm 2:07:05.760 --> 2:07:07.240 gonna call y' all the pretty wigs sis. So she 2:07:07.320 --> 2:07:09.280 was like, where'd you get those? I said, my friend 2:07:09.320 --> 2:07:11.280 that does my hair, the girl yasm was braiding my 2:07:11.360 --> 2:07:14.040 head was getting the wigs at a Flatbush Avenue for 2:07:14.120 --> 2:07:17.480 twenty dollars. She said, twenty dollars. They were charging her 2:07:18.000 --> 2:07:21.040 wherever they was flying her wings in two thousand dollars. 2:07:22.600 --> 2:07:24.000 For the twenty dollar she said, IM gonna call you 2:07:24.040 --> 2:07:26.200 all the pretty wigs. And I remember her embracing me 2:07:26.280 --> 2:07:28.440 that night and she was like, keep your family close 2:07:28.440 --> 2:07:31.080 because these motherfucker's ain't gonna love you like your family. 2:07:31.200 --> 2:07:33.240 And ever since then, when I ride out, me and 2:07:33.320 --> 2:07:37.920 my sister got the same Mama saying, Daddy already know 2:07:38.200 --> 2:07:40.280 I can drink under the table because she ain't gonna 2:07:40.360 --> 2:07:42.760 let no, I can hire all the security with the gun, 2:07:43.280 --> 2:07:46.160 let somebody touch her hair on his head. She's gonna 2:07:46.160 --> 2:07:48.440 put her life before mis We learned that back in 2:07:50.120 --> 2:07:52.120 and I realized so when I went on tour with 2:07:52.200 --> 2:07:54.080 Missy when we were Jay LENO have my sister with 2:07:54.200 --> 2:07:56.400 me anytime I moving away, like I can move And 2:07:56.480 --> 2:07:58.160 she got a whole life in the family. What's the 2:07:58.240 --> 2:08:00.520 first thing I said when you came in here, how's 2:08:00.560 --> 2:08:04.440 your sister? You're the first day And let me tell 2:08:04.440 --> 2:08:06.040 you what she said When she was like where you going, 2:08:06.080 --> 2:08:07.800 I said, I'm going to l A. I'm gonna wait. 2:08:07.840 --> 2:08:12.240 I'm taking Jay talking about you, talking about I'm the stalker. 2:08:12.600 --> 2:08:14.640 I was just like that. She must have been there 2:08:15.080 --> 2:08:19.240 because she was just like no, because we've been like 2:08:19.520 --> 2:08:25.680 just like, I don't think you realize, Yeah, you can't 2:08:25.760 --> 2:08:28.040 leave us. Okay, it's a great vote on that's a 2:08:28.040 --> 2:08:29.880 great votes Toronto. Let's get you, let's get back to that. 2:08:30.560 --> 2:08:33.240 It's a great votes. That's a great because there are 2:08:33.240 --> 2:08:35.040 some people that can sing. But I just know that 2:08:35.840 --> 2:08:38.560 if they put it on Nanda social media. They posted 2:08:38.640 --> 2:08:42.640 up today that you want to go up? Yeah, have 2:08:42.760 --> 2:08:45.720 you ever talked with Mary? No? I was? I Twitter 2:08:45.840 --> 2:08:48.960 backgrounds with Shana. We would love to say it again 2:08:48.960 --> 2:08:57.640 because you know, I just text, Hey, it's me, it's 2:08:57.640 --> 2:09:01.760 your friend Ja. We would love to go on. I 2:09:01.840 --> 2:09:05.880 forgot that. I know it's a whole female tour they're 2:09:05.880 --> 2:09:10.200 going on, and I left respect. Yeah what you're super dollar. 2:09:10.880 --> 2:09:15.320 But at some point that point the Lord, because I 2:09:15.360 --> 2:09:20.560 want to be there yelling Lord Lesia Amen, sister obliged 2:09:20.640 --> 2:09:26.080 to oblige? That would I think that would be so dope. 2:09:27.600 --> 2:09:30.560 That's R and B. So we got we got this. 2:09:31.760 --> 2:09:34.320 It's one special part of the show too. Here we go, Okay, 2:09:34.520 --> 2:09:38.240 here we go. You know it's it's it's a thing. 2:09:38.440 --> 2:09:41.600 It's becoming a thing. I know you're not scared because 2:09:41.600 --> 2:09:43.800 you're little more. But I'm gonna need you be sassy 2:09:43.840 --> 2:09:48.680 seed for this. Be sassy. Not young wisdom, not young wisdom, 2:09:48.840 --> 2:09:52.160 but more more more snassy. See the Young Wisdom. The 2:09:52.280 --> 2:09:57.560 portion of the show is called I ain't saying on that? Okay, 2:09:58.760 --> 2:10:03.480 so what that story can be? Funny? Are fucked up? 2:10:04.120 --> 2:10:07.400 Are both got you? The only rule is that you 2:10:07.480 --> 2:10:10.400 just can't say the names, and the people gotta guess 2:10:10.400 --> 2:10:13.400 who it is whatever they want to do. But you 2:10:13.520 --> 2:10:17.240 tell us the story and you just can't say no names. 2:10:18.000 --> 2:10:21.640 So many stories you do, know you do. Let me 2:10:21.680 --> 2:10:23.680 try to think, child, Let me try to think of 2:10:27.000 --> 2:10:30.760 Go ahead and take your sip, take your silp, my 2:10:31.000 --> 2:10:57.680 drink here around you, trying to think of bok got 2:10:57.800 --> 2:11:09.160 so many childs any man saying are funny and damn, 2:11:09.240 --> 2:11:10.520 let me try to think it was a good one. 2:11:15.120 --> 2:11:21.680 It's so much that to happen, like foof God, these 2:11:21.720 --> 2:11:23.280 are good questions. I wish you all to send me 2:11:23.360 --> 2:11:26.880 the list trying to think of like a good because 2:11:26.920 --> 2:11:29.680 I have some something like jaw and then I got 2:11:29.760 --> 2:11:42.320 something like what the like mm hmm um shoo. God. 2:11:42.480 --> 2:11:45.400 Thereous be so much stuff that happened to the fact 2:11:45.440 --> 2:11:47.600 that I'm still alive, Like I'm trying to figure out 2:11:47.640 --> 2:11:51.760 I'm still here because I've been this some fun up situation. 2:11:51.840 --> 2:11:53.480 I'll be like, how does this happen. I used always 2:11:53.520 --> 2:11:56.040 wonder how does this happen to an R and B person? 2:11:56.200 --> 2:11:59.120 Like we're supposed to be almost like gospel. When no 2:11:59.240 --> 2:12:01.800 weapon FORMI get a weippers is farming like I'm loving, 2:12:02.480 --> 2:12:10.400 but the prospering get tricking. It gets real tricky. I'm 2:12:10.440 --> 2:12:16.400 trying to think, Um, I can tell you one of 2:12:16.440 --> 2:12:21.240 the best vices somebody gave me, And honestly, I used 2:12:21.280 --> 2:12:24.080 that through my whole career, and I'm glad because I 2:12:24.160 --> 2:12:26.920 think that's the reason why I'm still here. I remember, 2:12:27.080 --> 2:12:30.560 like there was a time when she was I was, 2:12:32.240 --> 2:12:35.840 and I wasn't Murray and I am. The kids and 2:12:35.920 --> 2:12:38.720 I remember somebody they came to me. They was just 2:12:38.840 --> 2:12:41.960 like MO, Like they used to tell people, if you 2:12:42.000 --> 2:12:44.160 do a lot of features, you'll get oversaturated. Then people 2:12:44.240 --> 2:12:46.560 get tired of it. They was like, no, MO, keep 2:12:46.600 --> 2:12:50.640 going because you have something that like a lot of 2:12:50.680 --> 2:12:53.880 people don't have, Like there's there's faith as Murray is 2:12:54.320 --> 2:12:56.600 like this Kelly and they were singing roal hooks, but 2:12:56.640 --> 2:13:00.760 they were just like MO, like you have something. All 2:13:00.840 --> 2:13:06.000 I ax is that because like yeah, like because I 2:13:06.080 --> 2:13:09.080 have been through that, I survived the turn up once 2:13:09.120 --> 2:13:11.160 I got to the church, and I realized, oh man, 2:13:11.160 --> 2:13:13.840 I ain't gonna even leave bird with the devil. I 2:13:14.040 --> 2:13:17.720 just did drugs out of drink. Like so now when 2:13:17.760 --> 2:13:20.320 I celebrate, I'm just like your eye beat all the 2:13:20.440 --> 2:13:24.320 fucking odds. But when this person told me, they was like, 2:13:24.560 --> 2:13:29.120 just gonna funk, none of these niggas. But I know 2:13:29.280 --> 2:13:38.080 it was all these bitches like all the Oh I 2:13:38.240 --> 2:13:42.120 took that, and that's what help me. Somebody takes me 2:13:42.200 --> 2:13:44.520 longer to get to where I need to get. But 2:13:45.200 --> 2:13:47.480 when you walk in the room and it be everybody 2:13:47.760 --> 2:13:51.520 from the highest rap to the lowest and crap, can't 2:13:51.560 --> 2:14:05.640 nobody say they hit me from the back. It's just 2:14:05.800 --> 2:14:12.240 like they hit me from And do you know how 2:14:12.440 --> 2:14:14.680 easy it is as a woman when they know when 2:14:14.720 --> 2:14:16.680 you when you touch it, Danny, you go. I was 2:14:16.800 --> 2:14:20.160 at all the concerts because I was all the tours 2:14:20.520 --> 2:14:24.280 and I had access to all everybody. But it's just like, 2:14:25.880 --> 2:14:29.640 just do a song with them. You don't have like niggas, 2:14:31.640 --> 2:14:34.960 even the one even the girls who had gifts. I 2:14:35.600 --> 2:14:39.840 get the girls who don't have gifts. And but at 2:14:39.840 --> 2:14:42.080 the end of the day, I'm glad I didn't. And 2:14:42.120 --> 2:14:43.960 then and I'll take the longer rong. I don't care. 2:14:44.800 --> 2:14:48.520 But like I said, I've been divorced three times. Niggas 2:14:48.600 --> 2:14:52.600 job anyway, you said three times, yeah, three times. Yes, 2:14:53.600 --> 2:14:59.240 you know you're Elizabeth Taylor Christian jan Now I'm just 2:14:59.280 --> 2:15:02.200 getting know I'm up there. But it was just like, 2:15:02.320 --> 2:15:03.520 you know what, that was a part of me, like, 2:15:03.720 --> 2:15:06.440 it's bad, I'm married in the burn, So would you 2:15:06.480 --> 2:15:11.920 get marride again? Not to nobody that it's levels So 2:15:12.200 --> 2:15:14.240 we will get married for love? No, you don't, you 2:15:14.360 --> 2:15:21.560 better when you keep going. So you people had these conversations. 2:15:21.680 --> 2:15:23.800 They had this conversation all the time, though, about what 2:15:23.880 --> 2:15:26.120 marriage used to really be about. It used to be 2:15:26.560 --> 2:15:29.600 there should be a businesses it was a business or 2:15:30.000 --> 2:15:32.880 I think black people change that because we used to. 2:15:32.960 --> 2:15:35.480 I don't think the others ever married truly for love. 2:15:35.720 --> 2:15:38.120 They never did. They always had a bad not the 2:15:38.160 --> 2:15:42.840 colonizes who always there's always a play. It was always 2:15:43.600 --> 2:15:47.240 I'm watching House of Dragon right now, I'm watching Dragons 2:15:47.360 --> 2:15:50.400 right now. The tricky situation, the other thing trying to 2:15:50.480 --> 2:15:58.120 marry a little dragons. So it's the it's the Game 2:15:58.160 --> 2:16:01.200 of Thrones. It's the pre free, cool to game of thrones, 2:16:02.240 --> 2:16:06.120 and they got the Game of thrones because you keep blood. 2:16:06.400 --> 2:16:08.800 It's about keeping the family, yo, you know, one of 2:16:08.840 --> 2:16:11.000 the what's crazy and strength in the in the in 2:16:11.080 --> 2:16:15.280 the wealth. But black people were trying to I had 2:16:15.320 --> 2:16:18.480 got married one time, I hold you when my Sunday 2:16:18.560 --> 2:16:21.040 was like, because my ex was a church musician, he's 2:16:21.040 --> 2:16:23.240 gonna get sat down. They came to phone out that 2:16:23.360 --> 2:16:26.600 church don't sit people down. Well, okay, I don't know 2:16:26.680 --> 2:16:28.280 what that means. That it means you can't play. No, 2:16:28.400 --> 2:16:31.040 you can't play well, you're supposed to be safe. So yeah, 2:16:31.120 --> 2:16:36.119 that time, if y'all did get married, he wasn't gonna 2:16:36.120 --> 2:16:38.880 get this one twenty five a week no more because 2:16:40.360 --> 2:16:42.000 ever heard about those church? Why do you go to 2:16:42.080 --> 2:16:45.680 my number? Because these musicians, now I was getting on 2:16:47.879 --> 2:16:57.440 the ball it up. Why you want me to go 2:16:57.520 --> 2:17:00.320 to the bank and cash. We could have took that 2:17:00.360 --> 2:17:03.200 out off from maybe like we we can't hey you 2:17:03.280 --> 2:17:05.960 for you, We're like you might as well keep They 2:17:06.040 --> 2:17:08.520 told him if y'all don't get married, somebody told her 2:17:08.840 --> 2:17:11.280 that must have been a down self tradition. But come 2:17:11.360 --> 2:17:13.200 to find out that the church was like, no, we 2:17:13.280 --> 2:17:17.160 don't sit people down. And I was just like, hey, 2:17:17.720 --> 2:17:21.080 so she was already married. So then they had got married. 2:17:21.160 --> 2:17:25.960 Like at the Bible study, definitely, they would sit you 2:17:26.000 --> 2:17:27.360 down and you had a baby down south, and then 2:17:27.360 --> 2:17:29.560 the baby wanted to be and your sister brother child. 2:17:29.879 --> 2:17:32.920 Yeah I came up and you know, and sisters was 2:17:32.959 --> 2:17:39.119 really mothers and daughters out communicated from the church. Yeah, 2:17:39.600 --> 2:17:42.520 you know, like a lifetime movie. That was really how 2:17:42.640 --> 2:17:47.680 traumatized if that was to realize that your mama allowed 2:17:47.680 --> 2:17:49.879 to be like almost like a scarlet letter type vib 2:17:50.040 --> 2:17:52.360 not all you're gonna burn it him now you got 2:17:52.440 --> 2:17:53.800 you have to know to get pregnant. Like wait, I 2:17:53.840 --> 2:17:55.960 didn't have to know to do nothing, you know what 2:17:56.000 --> 2:17:58.280 I'm saying. But that was just like I'm glad niggas 2:17:58.280 --> 2:17:59.920 ain't going for that no more. Just like it is 2:18:00.080 --> 2:18:04.360 what it is. Yeah, very were you're talking this church 2:18:04.440 --> 2:18:10.920 talk the world so you can survive the church early 2:18:11.040 --> 2:18:15.000 church to firing Brimstone. Are you going to help everything? 2:18:15.240 --> 2:18:17.200 I used to think I was going to help if 2:18:17.240 --> 2:18:22.520 I didn't tell. I never thought I was doing everything. 2:18:23.760 --> 2:18:28.800 Next was at my heels curse until I turned till 2:18:28.920 --> 2:18:30.640 I started doing R and B until two years out 2:18:30.640 --> 2:18:37.119 of high school. Me need to yeah, yeah, church grown man. Yeah, 2:18:39.480 --> 2:18:42.320 graduated eighteen to like almost twenty, let's start doing R 2:18:42.320 --> 2:18:44.320 and B. And it was and it was even I 2:18:46.000 --> 2:18:47.880 was inching my way and I was like, I was like, well, 2:18:47.879 --> 2:18:50.280 I'm gonna just be like boys to men. You know 2:18:50.280 --> 2:18:53.000 what I'm saying, I'll be boys to man baby face, Yeah, 2:18:53.720 --> 2:18:56.800 sinkle of bright McKnight, That's what I'm gonna be. And 2:18:56.920 --> 2:18:59.119 then and then I got ahold of that. R Kelly. 2:18:59.320 --> 2:19:02.440 You didn't get with no Rick James, no Prince. I 2:19:02.480 --> 2:19:05.039 grew up some of the music, but I grew up 2:19:05.080 --> 2:19:07.800 on what I grew up on. You you know nothing 2:19:07.800 --> 2:19:10.760 about dirty Mind, but I grew up on like listening 2:19:10.840 --> 2:19:13.760 was able to like when my father had was a bakery, 2:19:14.680 --> 2:19:18.039 he had guy yep, and he had a new additions. 2:19:19.360 --> 2:19:22.080 That was the that was you know, was in my house. 2:19:24.320 --> 2:19:29.760 So no, I want to know. I know, Oh that's 2:19:29.760 --> 2:19:33.800 another person. They can say he will be sleeping on him, 2:19:34.240 --> 2:19:42.240 the monster if they sleep his tone killer killer, and 2:19:42.320 --> 2:19:45.920 he knows it, he knows. Maybe they try to take 2:19:46.040 --> 2:19:47.640 off the intro to the par and the and they 2:19:47.720 --> 2:19:49.000 tried to switch it out with tray songs. And the 2:19:49.040 --> 2:19:51.280 people like they kept. The next week that they went 2:19:51.320 --> 2:19:54.440 back to Rugland got so bad and was like I 2:19:54.480 --> 2:19:58.680 didn't even ask you, Yes, I didn't ask. They just 2:19:58.800 --> 2:20:00.680 put me on this. I don't just want to get out. 2:20:00.879 --> 2:20:05.600 But that's like Joe is just Joe just has that again, 2:20:05.720 --> 2:20:09.160 that voice that that can cover so much ground, whether 2:20:09.160 --> 2:20:12.040 it be whether it be dirty, hip hop or love. 2:20:12.120 --> 2:20:15.200 So his voice just like how does he like? How 2:20:15.240 --> 2:20:19.720 does he know? Yeah? I just wanting to know wrote 2:20:19.720 --> 2:20:22.160 and produced for y'all know. I love Joe. I'm a 2:20:22.240 --> 2:20:24.120 credit read doctor from that era when you get the 2:20:24.160 --> 2:20:30.480 City unfolded, I used to see who on this? Okay, 2:20:30.760 --> 2:20:36.160 okay you nice? Yeah yeah, okay, well listen, Um, we 2:20:36.160 --> 2:20:37.720 don't want to take up all your time because you 2:20:37.760 --> 2:20:43.120 know your family so you know you you are here. Um, 2:20:44.200 --> 2:20:47.680 this is always home for you always and you are 2:20:47.800 --> 2:20:50.359 family to us. You know that we're just letting everybody 2:20:50.400 --> 2:20:53.360 else not his family. You got something bad to say 2:20:53.400 --> 2:20:59.879 about littlemochect yourself protect yourself at all time? Yeah, it's 2:21:00.000 --> 2:21:07.080 because like a tricky Yeah, like people look at me, 2:21:07.200 --> 2:21:12.400 People look at me and think it's me. I want 2:21:12.440 --> 2:21:14.039 to know what because I'm like, oh my God, he's 2:21:14.080 --> 2:21:19.160 so nice. He's so yeah, and I love it. That's 2:21:19.240 --> 2:21:21.520 that's a perfect balance to be like, you know, just 2:21:21.800 --> 2:21:25.920 he like, man, we're gonna suck you up. I was like, yeah, man, 2:21:25.959 --> 2:21:37.640 I can't. He's like man blood all right. Yeah, he's 2:21:37.640 --> 2:21:39.280 saying what he would be saying what I want to 2:21:39.320 --> 2:21:43.520 say because I knew I'll be saying some stuff from 2:21:43.560 --> 2:21:48.400 the Bay Area. Bang, So blood is young blood for us. 2:21:48.480 --> 2:21:52.280 Don't don't get confused, don't. But I love it. There's 2:21:52.360 --> 2:21:57.880 no gray area area. They like you, They don't, you know, 2:21:58.040 --> 2:22:02.640 like we might. No, But anyway, Um, you are you. 2:22:02.840 --> 2:22:06.560 You are absolutely amazing. You are you are, you are not. 2:22:08.080 --> 2:22:10.200 You are not old news. You know you are from 2:22:10.240 --> 2:22:13.920 an old school, but you are still new. You're still 2:22:14.000 --> 2:22:18.160 in the building, You're still on these stages. You still 2:22:18.280 --> 2:22:25.720 have your look. Thank you, I'm saying you have you 2:22:25.840 --> 2:22:29.880 have as your word been preserved for a time like this, 2:22:30.680 --> 2:22:35.040 And what a time for everybody at this moment to 2:22:35.200 --> 2:22:39.480 be trying, you know, to prove that R and B 2:22:40.280 --> 2:22:43.920 it's still a lot and still a thing. And then 2:22:44.040 --> 2:22:47.760 getting and guess who's just been sitting waiting for everybody 2:22:47.800 --> 2:22:51.959 to realize that, Yeah, and here we are so um 2:22:52.320 --> 2:22:55.440 on behalf of the Army Money Podcast. We want to 2:22:55.480 --> 2:22:59.360 thank you, appreciate you. And this this was this was 2:22:59.440 --> 2:23:03.240 flowers for you. Thank You've never really gotten any flowers before. 2:23:03.879 --> 2:23:07.000 This whole thing has been about making sure you get 2:23:07.040 --> 2:23:10.720 your flowers. We celebrate little, we celebrate you. Know what 2:23:10.920 --> 2:23:15.920 I'm saying, all a little more. Every everything from John P. 2:23:16.120 --> 2:23:19.520 Keen to Jay Z were celebrating a little more. So 2:23:19.680 --> 2:23:22.400 you listen. My name is Tank, I'm Val and this 2:23:22.600 --> 2:23:26.720 has been the R Money Podcast, the authority on all 2:23:26.840 --> 2:23:37.600 things featuring our sister love one blood Blood, Yeah, yeah, 2:23:37.680 --> 2:23:46.160 yeah Money