1 00:00:01,960 --> 00:00:13,080 Speaker 1: And money. We all take out. We are the authority 2 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:21,280 Speaker 1: on all things R and B and money. Ladies and gentlemen, 3 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:24,880 Speaker 1: what's going on? I am tanking and this is the 4 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 1: R and B Money Podcast, the authority on all things. 5 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:36,880 Speaker 1: Who you know? You were talking about R and B 6 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 1: in the trenches. What I'm saying when it was only 7 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 1: two R and B artists on the bill and the 8 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 1: rest was rappers. Was in the deep South South Carolina, 9 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 1: Bill too below gains Bill, Florida. We was in the 10 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 1: trenches to get the My little sister, my loved one 11 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 1: around the way. Yeah, you understand what I'm saying. Please 12 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:10,320 Speaker 1: give it up. She's so accomplished, so many things. We'll 13 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 1: get to all that. Yeah, you up appreciate you will remember, 14 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 1: are you kidding? Like people don't remember? Like I was 15 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 1: doing shows, Oh my god, we're rappers, so we would 16 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 1: have to I was singing songs like Ballance and having 17 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 1: to walk out the club with the mic in my 18 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 1: hand because they will start shooting and fighting. Absolutely, That's 19 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 1: that's that's where we came from. They could never survive. 20 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 1: It would be just me and you. I would look 21 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:41,680 Speaker 1: at the field and there would be miracle c murder 22 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 1: and yeah, thank a little more. So wait, wait, so 23 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 1: are y'all the original trap? So I think we are 24 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 1: real shout out to But I'm sure Bryson Tiller never 25 00:01:57,160 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 1: had to walk out of the club after singing a 26 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 1: ballot It too gunshots listen. I had been almost booed 27 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 1: on some of these all trap shows. What they are like, 28 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 1: who is this nigger with the baby along? You know 29 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But you were I was crazy and 30 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 1: milk character. Because when you could perform at any arena, 31 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:26,239 Speaker 1: especially the ones that you at least expected to get 32 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 1: around of applause, that's when you know you do well. 33 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:31,920 Speaker 1: Here's the other thing, too, is that you you of 34 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 1: course started there, and when when I was coming along 35 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:38,360 Speaker 1: you you were already had you were already on hit records. 36 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 1: So when I when I when I came in on 37 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 1: those shows with you, that was me trying to get 38 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:47,919 Speaker 1: my records played. But so you were like you were, 39 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 1: you were you were already kind of tried improving before 40 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:53,360 Speaker 1: I got there, because you were going on after You're 41 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:54,960 Speaker 1: gonna after me, right, you know what I'm saying. So 42 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:58,080 Speaker 1: when your songs came on, it was it was up. 43 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:00,200 Speaker 1: But you were. You still had to work your way 44 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:03,640 Speaker 1: into that space, right for sure. But when I saw you, 45 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 1: you was cooking, and I was like, I was like 46 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 1: there on some R and B pol when I saw 47 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 1: you on the bill or when I would see your name, 48 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:14,360 Speaker 1: even to this day, I was like, at least I 49 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 1: know with somebody on here that's can really sing, because 50 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:21,799 Speaker 1: there's that. That's how we got No, it's it's kind 51 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 1: of shape, but that's how that's that's that's what you did. 52 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 1: That's how that's shape, no shade, right, yeah, but that's 53 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 1: how we got our record deals. You know what I'm saying, 54 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 1: even even even down to Jay like it wasn't it 55 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 1: wasn't no fluff like JA could dance. You know what 56 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 1: I'm saying, there's there's that he could dance, right, I 57 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 1: got to you know what I'm saying, I'm dancing in 58 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 1: my first video you were, I was fallout choreography because 59 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 1: we were all, you know, we fell with cameras came out. 60 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 1: We were talking about things that could have stopped. You 61 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 1: could have stopped you know, the progression yea of taking 62 00:03:56,720 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 1: little mo. Yeah, and he almost stopped his progression with dancing. No, 63 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 1: but the main thing that would have stopped all this 64 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 1: ship No, no, no is if he would have kept 65 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 1: trying to wrap. No, I wasn't trying. First of all, 66 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 1: shout out to michaelid in the build. My brother kame 67 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 1: crossing brother, who knows my rap pedigree? It out, who 68 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 1: knows my rap pedigree? Okay, they were clean wraps. I 69 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 1: was a church kid. What was your name? MC Hurricane? Really? Yeah? Okay, 70 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 1: so the wait where you like you were like bringing 71 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 1: the rain? I was, I was bringing the thunder and 72 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:32,159 Speaker 1: the thunder was this? Was this biblical? Because biblical? You 73 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:36,839 Speaker 1: were a church rap? I would wrap street ish You 74 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 1: know how you watch remember how you watched the box 75 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 1: and all the dirty songs that were changed and had 76 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:48,479 Speaker 1: the radio. What's crazy is I started out rapping too, 77 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:50,920 Speaker 1: because like my first time being on the rod was 78 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:52,919 Speaker 1: with my uncle John P. King. So while I was 79 00:04:52,920 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 1: in high school, don't I went into some gangses. I 80 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 1: ain't kidding, y'allen, Like when I used to turn them 81 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 1: guns into his shirt. We'll bring to this church, let's 82 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 1: start there. But I used to wrap as well, and 83 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 1: I tried to do gospel rap, but I had that 84 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 1: stree edge because I grew up in church where he 85 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 1: told me one day when I was like fifteen years old, 86 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 1: he was like, I think you should sing because not 87 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:26,279 Speaker 1: there's nothing wrong with your rapping, but I think you 88 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 1: should sing because you'll last longer. He never lied. That's crazy, right, 89 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:37,719 Speaker 1: So like literally twenty nine years later, yeah, that way. 90 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 1: I I stayed rapping, yeah, until until my tenth grade 91 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 1: in high school because I was I was battling everybody 92 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 1: and me too, and I was I was, I was. 93 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 1: I was a battle rapper. So and one in English class. 94 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:57,359 Speaker 1: Our teacher in English class used to always let me 95 00:05:57,400 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 1: in this other kid battle for like a little credit, right, 96 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 1: and so I would I would kill him, right, I 97 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 1: would just go eddie. And one day he was like, 98 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:09,720 Speaker 1: you know I can beat you. I was like, you 99 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 1: haven't beat me yet, he said, he said, because when 100 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:15,279 Speaker 1: I'm rapping, I'm you know, I'm just I'm being lyrical, 101 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:16,920 Speaker 1: like I'm you know what I'm saying. He's like, when 102 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 1: you're rapping, like you're actually battle rapping, like you're you're 103 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 1: talking about me. I haven't even talked about you yet, 104 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:23,479 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And I was like, I 105 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:25,920 Speaker 1: was like, yeah, I hear you, but let's get to it. 106 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 1: And so having a philosophy, yeah listen. And so we 107 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:39,040 Speaker 1: got to the class and he went first and he 108 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 1: did his rap, and he he rapped so good, but 109 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:49,920 Speaker 1: he was actually rapping about me this time. And remember 110 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 1: you watched eight miles and and what was his name 111 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:57,360 Speaker 1: with Papa Doc who was supposed to go last after Eminem. Yeah, 112 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:02,839 Speaker 1: well he Eminem me massacre. His rap was so crazy 113 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 1: and there was so many uz and os and so 114 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 1: many ohs. I was like, this rapping, this rapping, gonna 115 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 1: do it crazy man, what's this nigger's name? He's not. 116 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 1: He works up. We have to thank you. I don't 117 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 1: know your name. So he reached out to you and 118 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 1: be like you are crushed you in the tip break 119 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 1: he probably is now aside from him crushing tank, crushing 120 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 1: DJ hurricane whatever hurricane he was. Yeah, we would we 121 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 1: would personally like to thank you in the R and 122 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 1: B world for destroying this man's rap career so that 123 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 1: he didn't do that foolishness. Man, I was good. So 124 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 1: he saved the rhyme about you for last. You might 125 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 1: have said he had never he had never rapped about me. 126 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 1: It was all ways about how good he was and 127 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 1: metaphors and all that, you know what I'm saying. But 128 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 1: and I was like, you know, I'm going to more 129 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 1: to all the street in it I'm talking about it's 130 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 1: closed like I'm going. He's like, I've never rapped about you. 131 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 1: I was like, rap about me. So that's why I'm 132 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 1: you know, but that's what getting to songwriting, which you 133 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 1: do very well. I think us being rappers, you know 134 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, and being lyricists is why we were, 135 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 1: why we are able to put these songs together and 136 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 1: put these words together the way we do. Not only 137 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 1: did honestly growing up in the church help you, I 138 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:45,720 Speaker 1: think it helped me. I don't play you play like 139 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 1: a hundred instruments. I can't play just like a little 140 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 1: bit of shower music on the drums and that's about it. 141 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 1: I can just shout music. That's it. That's it. And 142 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 1: I think it helped with like melody and stuff like 143 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 1: you know, don't before you go there, Before you go there, 144 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 1: we like to start at the beginning. We are very 145 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:05,720 Speaker 1: very informative. I could like to start at the beginning 146 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:07,960 Speaker 1: because you already threw out the John P. Keeper which 147 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:17,079 Speaker 1: super Super shout out to in the tenth grade. I 148 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 1: see what today is gonna be the death of m 149 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:25,719 Speaker 1: You didn't tell shoot I was my name was. At 150 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 1: first I was Sassy c Yeah yeah in church, in 151 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 1: church church, and then I would know for city, See 152 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 1: everybody had those names. And then I was young Wisdom. 153 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:43,320 Speaker 1: I went through this whole phase of yeah, young wisdom. 154 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 1: I was like I went through the shade joined brand 155 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 1: new thing that I was like everybody used to be 156 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 1: a five per center. I used to hang with the 157 00:09:56,320 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 1: no young wisdom and then after that, honestly, John Picky 158 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 1: gave me the name little Mo because my last name 159 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 1: is loving, so he used to call me mony for 160 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:10,960 Speaker 1: some of my reason. Yeah, and then he just stopped 161 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 1: on me. That just stuff. And my friend was just 162 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:18,719 Speaker 1: like my fir Renee because I was. We used to 163 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 1: drive from Fayetteville to Charlotte every Wednesday for rehearsal three 164 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 1: hours there at three hours bait. So I would get 165 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:27,079 Speaker 1: out of school, drive to Charlotte to rehearse. Then my 166 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 1: dad would bring me back on Friday so we could 167 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:31,320 Speaker 1: go on touring the weekend, and then he would pick 168 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:33,560 Speaker 1: me back up on Sunday. So it was just like 169 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:41,840 Speaker 1: it did. Okay, when did you know when did somebody 170 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 1: tell you? When did the first church congregation say that 171 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 1: baby got it? Honestly, where I used to sing songs 172 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 1: in church, I was like four or five, and the 173 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 1: first song I lafed was I think it was about 174 00:10:56,280 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 1: a Clark sisters. What a difference it makes. So I 175 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:02,320 Speaker 1: was too, I'm gonna be singing those grown songs. But 176 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:04,720 Speaker 1: when I started saying with John, he was the one 177 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 1: that told me you got something because I started rabbits. 178 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 1: That was like in ninety one. Shoot, I was in 179 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 1: tiph grade, ninth tiph grade. That was the first time, Yeah, 180 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 1: you got something special. Yeah, So people always said that 181 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:22,200 Speaker 1: I was, you know, gifted. I had a gift because 182 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 1: I was saying all the adult songs because he lives 183 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 1: all the grown songs as a child director. Yeah, because 184 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:32,560 Speaker 1: it was like when you seven, when you five years old, 185 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:34,839 Speaker 1: when I was in the world, I didn't have a 186 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 1: gut on my side. You five years old, talk about 187 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:41,080 Speaker 1: when I was in the world, when you was outside 188 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 1: the junior choir, sc gave me your song like it's that. 189 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 1: But then when you get up to the young adult quire, 190 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 1: then you can start singing a difference it makes when 191 00:11:56,840 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 1: y'all walk the So this is like that. So what 192 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 1: happens in gospel is like a portion of the Bible 193 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:08,960 Speaker 1: when Jesus goes from this from one age and he 194 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:15,319 Speaker 1: comes back he was up the world. Yeah, I'm just 195 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:20,480 Speaker 1: trying to listen. Honestly, that that age of thirteen that's 196 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 1: really pivotal, and a lot of people's like this. Honestly, 197 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 1: that's the age of honestly what they call it accountability, 198 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 1: but that's also the age that when you're trying to 199 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 1: find yourself. So that would be the age when I 200 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:33,360 Speaker 1: was just like, Okay, this is what I wanted to do. 201 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:35,440 Speaker 1: I always want to ramp. But I was just like 202 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:38,720 Speaker 1: once my uncle told me at fifteen, sing you'll last longer. 203 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 1: At first, you know, I tried my son does it 204 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:43,440 Speaker 1: to me? He's thirteen, and I'm like, yo, you should sing. 205 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:46,560 Speaker 1: He was like, nobody wants to hear that anymore. So 206 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 1: I'm just like, yes, they did. You really don't understand 207 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:52,840 Speaker 1: that's what touches the heart. I'm not saying that rap doesn't, 208 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:56,080 Speaker 1: but it's just something about a melody. It's just something 209 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:59,680 Speaker 1: about tone. It's just something about that type of connection 210 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 1: that just hit different. So it's just like, yeah, something, 211 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:07,079 Speaker 1: but now they don't really talk about love. They talk 212 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:11,840 Speaker 1: about love, but it's in such a different way. So honestly, 213 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 1: that's crazy. I've never wrote a hate song in my life. 214 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 1: Mm hmm. No, none, toxic. I remade a toxic song, 215 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:25,320 Speaker 1: remade Shirley Murdock husband, and that was like toxic. But 216 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 1: it was State Church that was the first. Yeah, everything 217 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 1: was exciting and I had things in my life. Yeah, okay, 218 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 1: So you want to rote with John Kid? How long? 219 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:40,679 Speaker 1: How long were you out with father John? For like 220 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:45,679 Speaker 1: two years? And then after that once I'm I started 221 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 1: out with low Kid? Was there? Was there? So I say? 222 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 1: And I was next to name? Okay, so it was 223 00:13:56,040 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 1: a musician. Cool played the drums, Eric Bryce Shu's play guitar, 224 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 1: and it was another John used to play the bass 225 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:05,680 Speaker 1: like I was there. Yeah, right after I was there 226 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:10,320 Speaker 1: for show Up. So I came there with show Up. Yes, 227 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 1: you used to be the kid waiting on y'all in 228 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:16,319 Speaker 1: in d C. When he would do the V I P. Conventions, 229 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:18,720 Speaker 1: I'd be the kid waiting and I don't play basketball 230 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 1: with him? Yes, a ya he used to be so lit. 231 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:27,120 Speaker 1: The best part, and this is what I learned so 232 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 1: much from my uncle is just like now I understand 233 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 1: the for our gospel artist. Everybody on stage were just like, 234 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 1: the music is jammen. But when he would come out 235 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 1: and slide on stage and the keyboar will be ready, 236 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 1: the people would go because he was like he was like, 237 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 1: because he did the R and B, did a stinton, 238 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 1: cameo hello, right, yes, came right, so absolutely yeah. So 239 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 1: his approach to gospel music was totally was a completely 240 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:02,080 Speaker 1: different pot it like it was like it was it 241 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 1: was something we had never seen before. The structure of it, 242 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 1: how solid it was like yo'all could do something like 243 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:11,800 Speaker 1: this and everybody knew where to go. Or he'd make 244 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 1: a noise and everybody's yeah, it wasn't it was. We 245 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 1: was like, so we're watching the band on this side. 246 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 1: You had a band corner, when the band when where 247 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 1: the band set up. There were eighty musicians from that 248 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 1: single sitting on the side like this, and then you 249 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 1: got the congregation watching the whole thing. You got the 250 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 1: singers all through the day. But it was ill. The 251 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 1: music was the phrases, but put together music rehearsals. Yeah, 252 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 1: I did the V I was. I was part of 253 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:40,920 Speaker 1: the v I p Chuire Wednesday rehearsals that I used 254 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 1: to go to. People like it was almost like a concert. 255 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 1: He would come and have like a little bit of 256 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 1: Bible study and literally from like six pm two two 257 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 1: in the morning now would have school the next day. 258 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 1: He would write songs right there. He was like, all right, y'all, 259 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 1: gotta learn this right now. I was I'm gonna give 260 00:15:56,560 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 1: it to you know what, saying, awesome, gonna get this 261 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 1: so on up. He would literally write song on the spot. 262 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 1: And that's I learned so much from him and he 263 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 1: because he played, he would like make you go to 264 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 1: and they would go. It was like how did they know? 265 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 1: But he had that. He was the first person I 266 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:18,280 Speaker 1: saw sing and not miss and I didn't. I don't 267 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 1: know how we can talk about We don't talk about 268 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 1: that enough. We don't. We don't. That's a gift in 269 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 1: itself he did. Even if you're not obviously John p 270 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 1: Kids is amazing. But even if you're just a good 271 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 1: singer and you don't miss, that's that's still something very 272 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 1: special to prepare yourself to to honor your gift because 273 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:41,480 Speaker 1: everybody don't honor their gift. We do a lot of 274 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 1: things that go against what you're supposed to be doing 275 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:55,600 Speaker 1: to take I might have been on the other side 276 00:16:55,640 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 1: of you know, I might have been on the no. 277 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:08,880 Speaker 1: But that's but that's something that that that should be 278 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 1: spotlight when someone doesn't miss those type of artist's every night. Yes, 279 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:20,399 Speaker 1: you would never know if he was sick, if he 280 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:23,680 Speaker 1: was tired, if he was like you would never know 281 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 1: because any time he hit that stage, he would give 282 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:31,280 Speaker 1: it his all. And you know, like now they say, well, 283 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:33,680 Speaker 1: what time I go on from nine to nine thirty, 284 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:42,120 Speaker 1: he'll get up there, and especially especially when he does 285 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:44,359 Speaker 1: what I used to love too, and I learned a 286 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:46,240 Speaker 1: lot of that too, is like then I try to 287 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:48,159 Speaker 1: think people come to his consoles just to see if 288 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:50,480 Speaker 1: he was gonna get him money. He would literally from 289 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 1: his heart be like he would look at somebody like 290 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 1: come in for a second, because like, what's your rent? Sheila? 291 00:17:56,560 --> 00:18:00,240 Speaker 1: Uh we we recipes to her, Jeanette, you're renting what 292 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:04,439 Speaker 1: he pay So when I when I when I may 293 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:07,200 Speaker 1: pay for that. I got that from John pick Wow. 294 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:10,400 Speaker 1: I took that from him. That's that's who I learned 295 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 1: how to tip from and that's how you forever we 296 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 1: used to go to eye and eat after the concerts. Yes, 297 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 1: I will watch him give hundreds of dollars too, And 298 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:23,479 Speaker 1: I mean it would be a bunch of us. Think 299 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:27,399 Speaker 1: if a thousand dollars didn't matter to whoever was waiting 300 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:31,920 Speaker 1: on us? Are you giving him so much money? He 301 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 1: don't like this bad who just always take care of people, 302 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:37,479 Speaker 1: to take care of you always? Always first person? Ever 303 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:39,119 Speaker 1: seen that? So I learned that from him at the 304 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 1: concerts giving away money. I want to bless you. You 305 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 1: look like you need a blessing. How much is this? 306 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:45,879 Speaker 1: How much does that give her? That she get her that? 307 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:51,320 Speaker 1: That's that's why I learned it from. Yeah, he's gonna 308 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:53,399 Speaker 1: love this. I can't wait to tell him. Be like, 309 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:57,720 Speaker 1: you don't realize how much? Even on down to when 310 00:18:57,760 --> 00:19:00,480 Speaker 1: I started working with Missy, she was like, wait, John, 311 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 1: like do you like people just did it again? But 312 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:17,880 Speaker 1: I just you just threw out another gone to Missy 313 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 1: that way like I was looking back, Okay, none of them. 314 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:25,639 Speaker 1: Don't you stop? You stopped this? Okay, we need information. 315 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:35,679 Speaker 1: She's so used to leave you you How do you 316 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:39,240 Speaker 1: go from John p Key to Missy, how does that happen? 317 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:42,760 Speaker 1: What's the interview before? Before Missy? I actually toured with 318 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:46,160 Speaker 1: Guru rest in peace to him. I did jazz matazz 319 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:48,440 Speaker 1: because I think at that time in Dia Dad report 320 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 1: she couldn't go. So I was singing her part. How 321 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:55,480 Speaker 1: did you get that? I? Um, well, my cousin. She 322 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:58,800 Speaker 1: was married to Gary, who is DJ Premiers half brother. 323 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:02,040 Speaker 1: He I was living in North Carolina. Like when I say, 324 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:05,880 Speaker 1: God whatever, he typed down the rope down for me 325 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:09,359 Speaker 1: before I got here. He was in his bad and 326 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:12,800 Speaker 1: I never understood it till now because I never had 327 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:15,240 Speaker 1: the audition. People just took their word for it. So 328 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 1: they took me to Guru's house. He used to live 329 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:21,480 Speaker 1: like right and like Elmhurst, right between Queens and Long Island. 330 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 1: So my aunt lived in Queens. So I was like, 331 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:26,240 Speaker 1: if I get this gig, then I can stay with 332 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 1: my aunt. And I wind up going singing his eyes 333 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:32,280 Speaker 1: on the Sparrow and Gurgle's living room. He was like, so, yeah, 334 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:34,399 Speaker 1: they're gonna call you tomorrow and we're gonna get you. 335 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:36,639 Speaker 1: Do you have a passport? I was like no, but 336 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:39,760 Speaker 1: my dad drove me up there from North Carolina. He's 337 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:42,240 Speaker 1: always been my driver, not the fire in one time. 338 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:46,160 Speaker 1: We'll talk about that later. But like I just always 339 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:48,600 Speaker 1: I never had the really audition. All I had to 340 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 1: do was show up and I always got the job. Okay, 341 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 1: you did the whole United States and the whole and 342 00:20:57,240 --> 00:20:59,879 Speaker 1: then the overseas. So mind you, I'm just getting out 343 00:20:59,920 --> 00:21:03,239 Speaker 1: of high school and you getting paid, Yes, you get 344 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 1: real money to do this. And I was just like, 345 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:07,879 Speaker 1: so I'm thinking, I'm just going for the experience. And 346 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:09,120 Speaker 1: I was like, well, this is how much you're gonna 347 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 1: get paid this, And I was like, and tours that 348 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:21,240 Speaker 1: are already established, so it wasn't like care of Yeah, 349 00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:23,639 Speaker 1: Like I'm like, for damn, this is more than I 350 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 1: get job, working a job or anything. Before you caught 351 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 1: this kid, I never had a job like. I've never 352 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 1: felt out an application in my life. I wanted to 353 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:35,760 Speaker 1: feel out one because I was living on four break 354 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:37,960 Speaker 1: and I wanted to work at Wendy's. But then I 355 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:39,439 Speaker 1: was like, I'm not gonna be able to do that 356 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:44,680 Speaker 1: because I used to breed everybody here. And one time, really, yeah, 357 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 1: I thought I was gonna get a job. How old 358 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:49,160 Speaker 1: would you like a teenager because they made everybody else. 359 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:52,760 Speaker 1: I was like sixteen seventeen. I was just like, you 360 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 1: know what, I like clothes. Listen, I'm tired of selling. 361 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:11,000 Speaker 1: I say, I wasn't avoiding dope. I've seen something earlier 362 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 1: when they said just do it online said, I've ever 363 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:15,399 Speaker 1: stopped taking crump with up money because he opened it 364 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:17,399 Speaker 1: up and half of it was a dollar, half of 365 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:33,760 Speaker 1: it was a twenty drug. Trust me. My stent with 366 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:37,639 Speaker 1: jobs were I had. I wanted to get some clothes 367 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:41,080 Speaker 1: during Christmas time, so I went and worked at the 368 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:44,040 Speaker 1: oak Tree for like two months before he wrapped about 369 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 1: the tree he did ever have? He wrapped it. Yeah, 370 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:48,440 Speaker 1: I was working at Utrey. When you get the whole 371 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:51,119 Speaker 1: suit for ninety nine plus your shirt and time, that 372 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:56,840 Speaker 1: was how pack That was me? And then I put 373 00:22:56,880 --> 00:22:59,439 Speaker 1: it with a Vsati tie and some kind of cold shoes, 374 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 1: dressed that up, dressed that things so anyway. And then 375 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:05,439 Speaker 1: my second stint at a job, I'm so I'm so 376 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:14,879 Speaker 1: mad that Mike Lidy let you wear that high school listen. 377 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:19,119 Speaker 1: And then from Oaktree I went to uh I had. 378 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:21,560 Speaker 1: I had a job at a parcel plus where we 379 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:23,760 Speaker 1: used to make coves and deliver the mail and all 380 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:27,600 Speaker 1: that stuff, right, and so I sent off I sent 381 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:35,400 Speaker 1: off the first and one mixed blueprints. It is mixed. 382 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:41,879 Speaker 1: It was I remember all the plans for the for 383 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:43,879 Speaker 1: the shoes, I mean, the shirts and all of that 384 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:48,119 Speaker 1: stuff I sent. I sent those off to to whoever 385 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:50,159 Speaker 1: they ended up doing the deal with to get out. 386 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:51,960 Speaker 1: I sent those off. That's like my claim to fame 387 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:54,879 Speaker 1: my ship though. And he guy was from Maryland. So 388 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:56,639 Speaker 1: I did that, and then I did that for like 389 00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:59,680 Speaker 1: about three months. And you know why I got fired? 390 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,840 Speaker 1: Oh you know why I got fired? Let me think 391 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:05,880 Speaker 1: what could I can't even think like why, I'm gonna 392 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:09,360 Speaker 1: tell you why I got fired? Yeah, Pastor John p Key, 393 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:12,240 Speaker 1: what happened you, hug out? I stayed out all night 394 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:16,560 Speaker 1: with the church with John v Key playing basketball and 395 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:22,960 Speaker 1: eating that I hoped, and I woke up late because 396 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:24,800 Speaker 1: I was supposed to open the store. It was like 397 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:27,439 Speaker 1: my third or fourth time being so listen. So what 398 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:30,800 Speaker 1: this comes out to is John p Key was the 399 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 1: reason for both of y'all. R and B music got 400 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:41,880 Speaker 1: you fired And told Sassy see over here, this ain't 401 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:51,040 Speaker 1: gonna work, Sassy, see little wisdom whatever, shut out whatever 402 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 1: you want. I don't know what look here? Uh you 403 00:24:56,800 --> 00:25:00,400 Speaker 1: need to sing? Yeah? Last key was you know he'll 404 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:06,240 Speaker 1: you back to everything? So checks um seeing the world? Yeah, 405 00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 1: seeing the world. How do you get to missy so Um? 406 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:13,560 Speaker 1: I remember coming back. I had started hair school because 407 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 1: the tour was over, and I was like, let me 408 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:19,040 Speaker 1: just go do here because I didn't know if the 409 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 1: music thing was gonna work out or not. And I 410 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:22,639 Speaker 1: was still too young to get him. Do you remember 411 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:26,040 Speaker 1: Neils in New York? That was like everybody used to 412 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:30,000 Speaker 1: go uh and saying it was like an open mic. 413 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:32,560 Speaker 1: That's why I used to go. So I was sneaking 414 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:35,560 Speaker 1: because I wasn't twenty one, but I was sneaking. I 415 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 1: would see like call Thomas. They was like Maria Curry 416 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:48,200 Speaker 1: gonna be Kelly Price and Maria Curry because I was like, wait, 417 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:51,639 Speaker 1: who named my name? So I was like they were 418 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:54,400 Speaker 1: like these persons deep people are gonna be there and 419 00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 1: what was what's his name? Ron Grant used to have 420 00:25:57,080 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 1: an open mic t and I remember I was like, 421 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:01,639 Speaker 1: one night, I want to sing at these and I 422 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:03,720 Speaker 1: went and I signed up and they didn't ask me 423 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:05,199 Speaker 1: for I d because the people I would go it 424 00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:08,159 Speaker 1: was always grown. I always always thought I was grown, 425 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 1: for like I always honed with grown people. And I said, 426 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:20,440 Speaker 1: but I but I sang uh Lauren hillsong Um, killing 427 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:23,440 Speaker 1: me softly, and I killed it. And then after that 428 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:25,360 Speaker 1: people like, yo, you should do something. I was like, dag, 429 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:28,840 Speaker 1: my uncle was right, but I was. This was after 430 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 1: I came off tour, so I was doing R and 431 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:32,239 Speaker 1: B and if I used to feel so convicted, like, 432 00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 1: oh my god, I'm hell here, I'm singing this secular music. 433 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 1: I'm a burn with the devil. I always thought I 434 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 1: was gonna burn with the devil. That's what kept me 435 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:40,959 Speaker 1: from it. But then I realized I was like, wait, 436 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:44,439 Speaker 1: people still love me, so I'm gonna do this. So 437 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:47,119 Speaker 1: I had started working with like producers and stuff, writing 438 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:51,320 Speaker 1: songs and referencing songs, and for some of my reasons, 439 00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:54,119 Speaker 1: some of my references got to Missy and I was 440 00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:56,679 Speaker 1: in the mall and Green Neck is mall, getting just 441 00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 1: finished getting my nails, and that's when we had beepers. 442 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:02,160 Speaker 1: So I had moved to New York. I was living 443 00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:04,959 Speaker 1: in Queens, so going down there in school and just 444 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:07,240 Speaker 1: like going to open mics and just trying to make 445 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:13,640 Speaker 1: a name for myself and Merlin Bob had yeah, well 446 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:17,760 Speaker 1: ron ron was his um his uh his, he had 447 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:22,240 Speaker 1: two assistance that So I remember getting a beeping whenever 448 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:25,399 Speaker 1: said two on two. That meant money, child, that mean money. 449 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 1: So I called her back and he was like, Maryland, 450 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:31,440 Speaker 1: want to speak to you, and I was like for real, 451 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:34,200 Speaker 1: and so he was like, yeah, Missy um Elliot wants 452 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:36,200 Speaker 1: you to call I'm like out of here, Missy don't 453 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:38,480 Speaker 1: want me to call her like this, like I'm at 454 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 1: the mall. Want you to call her? And I was like, 455 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:45,399 Speaker 1: no freaking way. Hold on the second, I remember putting 456 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:48,040 Speaker 1: the pay phone down because that's when the drug deals 457 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:50,840 Speaker 1: had all the bag phones and them phone bills us 458 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:53,320 Speaker 1: to be high. So I found a piece of paper 459 00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:55,359 Speaker 1: and the pencil and I said, what's her number? And 460 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:57,240 Speaker 1: I had I remember having a phone like this, write 461 00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:58,920 Speaker 1: her number down. I called her right then and there, 462 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:01,680 Speaker 1: and she must have been in probably a Lamborghinia song, 463 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:03,840 Speaker 1: and she was like hold on, hold on. She had 464 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:05,840 Speaker 1: a car phone. I was like, hey, what's up this 465 00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:08,520 Speaker 1: little moe. I try to sound like like like I 466 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:15,000 Speaker 1: was talking, what is this a certain voice? It's like Yo, 467 00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:19,119 Speaker 1: what's up. I remember. I was like, yeah, what's up 468 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:21,159 Speaker 1: this little moment Merlin Bob told me to call you. 469 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 1: She was like, hold on, hold on, hold on. Malik 470 00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:25,040 Speaker 1: turned down the music because that's when remember Malik that 471 00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:27,719 Speaker 1: used to dance with her by her So he was like, 472 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:37,520 Speaker 1: she's like turning out the song perfect because it was 473 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:40,520 Speaker 1: so so prathetic. But now I get it, Like that's 474 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:42,520 Speaker 1: really how it feel like. It feel like a movie. 475 00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:45,280 Speaker 1: But it was just like she was like, Yo, your 476 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:48,640 Speaker 1: voice is dope, Like, Yo, can you come to the 477 00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:51,320 Speaker 1: city today. I was like, let me check my palm pilot. Yep, 478 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:53,920 Speaker 1: I'll be there. And I remember going to the city 479 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:57,040 Speaker 1: and when I met her and we were the same height. 480 00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:02,560 Speaker 1: He's like, I didn't even have to talk talk and 481 00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:09,360 Speaker 1: then the rest was literally history. Like from there, I 482 00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:12,479 Speaker 1: sang Whitney Houston saving All My Love for You, and 483 00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:15,360 Speaker 1: she she didn't tell me Whitney was coming to the 484 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:22,240 Speaker 1: studio that day. What yeah, not that same day. It 485 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:25,000 Speaker 1: was like months after. So I would reference Mry would 486 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:26,840 Speaker 1: write this song. She was like, reference something, you know 487 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:28,640 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So I would be I was like, 488 00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:30,040 Speaker 1: do you want me to sing all over she was like, 489 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:33,280 Speaker 1: do your thing, because that's gonna make you know people. 490 00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:38,600 Speaker 1: So I remember sitting in the studio and then all 491 00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:41,640 Speaker 1: of a sudden, like Whitney Houston walks and I'm like Jesus, 492 00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:46,200 Speaker 1: like no, no, like this is not happening it. So 493 00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:50,280 Speaker 1: I just remember just like Whitney coming up to me 494 00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:53,160 Speaker 1: because the song she wrote, Yes m Mr. It was 495 00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:55,680 Speaker 1: called yes, and I referenced it. Whitney like hugged me. 496 00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:58,640 Speaker 1: It was just like, you know, ahmost like she was 497 00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:00,160 Speaker 1: so hyped up. Then she made me go in the 498 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:02,840 Speaker 1: booth for her and vocal produce it. I was like, 499 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:06,080 Speaker 1: how do you tell the greatest freaking voice of the 500 00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:08,520 Speaker 1: world that had all the church girls want to sing 501 00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:12,560 Speaker 1: secular music with some annointing. I'm standing in the booth 502 00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:14,320 Speaker 1: when we can use My throat is so dry because 503 00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:20,920 Speaker 1: I'm nervous. She gave me a fisherman's friend, a fisherman's friends. Yeah, 504 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:31,120 Speaker 1: how you ready at least in your mind your mind, yeah, 505 00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:34,280 Speaker 1: not knowing that there was really ain't for sables. But 506 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:39,120 Speaker 1: it was like that's I meant with like everybody everybody? 507 00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:41,240 Speaker 1: Is that how you ended up getting your record deal? 508 00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:45,000 Speaker 1: Or so? Yeah, how long are you with Missy? I 509 00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:47,880 Speaker 1: was with like, literally, point, you're doing You're you're doing 510 00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:52,400 Speaker 1: working session work, session work, just so for the people 511 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:54,680 Speaker 1: who don't know, this is the process for you. So 512 00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:57,040 Speaker 1: you go on to her first with Guru, do you 513 00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:02,280 Speaker 1: link up with Missy when Missy is an amazing producer, 514 00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:06,480 Speaker 1: songwriter outside of big an artist, but her vision so 515 00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:11,000 Speaker 1: with so with Missy, now you in a sense on staff, Yeah, 516 00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:14,880 Speaker 1: you're doing her demos for Yeah, but she sing too, 517 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:19,160 Speaker 1: of course, like no, she sings to like but a 518 00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:23,760 Speaker 1: lot of people wanted to harmonies because she comes from 519 00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:26,880 Speaker 1: that Joe to see. So we were stacking now you 520 00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:30,600 Speaker 1: could do ye comes from the basement, So we were 521 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:36,000 Speaker 1: sa we were stacking vocals. That's where we came from, 522 00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:38,320 Speaker 1: the stacking vocals days. So she taught me so much 523 00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:41,320 Speaker 1: because I didn't know studio work. I was. So that's 524 00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:44,560 Speaker 1: when I learned that, you know, outside singing live and 525 00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:47,120 Speaker 1: studio is totally different. I hate being the studio. I 526 00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:50,040 Speaker 1: feel closeterrophobic. I feel like my ideas don't come like 527 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:52,520 Speaker 1: don't come to life. So I was glad that I 528 00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:54,479 Speaker 1: had her skeleton there and then I could take it 529 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:57,240 Speaker 1: to next level because Hot Boys was just her and 530 00:31:57,280 --> 00:31:59,640 Speaker 1: then I sang with it. So now she let me 531 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:03,480 Speaker 1: ring that church ad lives, which people you ain't gotta 532 00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:10,480 Speaker 1: do all that. Let me get busy where how long? 533 00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:16,680 Speaker 1: How long? Were like? Okay? So I had my deal, 534 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:19,080 Speaker 1: I was signed to a lecture. But it was just 535 00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:20,600 Speaker 1: like I was working with Missy. I was just like, 536 00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:24,920 Speaker 1: I don't need I want, Yeah, I don't even really 537 00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:27,880 Speaker 1: wanna did nothing. And all the songs that I was picking, 538 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:30,320 Speaker 1: and you know, all the songs that they were picking, 539 00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:31,680 Speaker 1: that's what I did to that. I was working with 540 00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:34,080 Speaker 1: Montell Jordan and them, so they would pick a songs. 541 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:36,080 Speaker 1: I was like, I don't think them like, these songs 542 00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:39,320 Speaker 1: are great, but I don't think it's gonna translate too. 543 00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:44,120 Speaker 1: I had tattoos, gold teeth at the time, braids, so 544 00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:47,080 Speaker 1: I looked like a rapper, but I sang like a 545 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:49,240 Speaker 1: church girl, so you feel me. I was trying to 546 00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:55,480 Speaker 1: blend those both worlds. So just like Missy taught me, 547 00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:58,560 Speaker 1: just like, just don't settle for nothing. Be who you are. 548 00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:01,040 Speaker 1: And that's how I about the gate. She was like, 549 00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:08,040 Speaker 1: these niggas got money charge him. Yeah, so to get 550 00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:10,360 Speaker 1: me to show up to vocal radets. That's a word, 551 00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:23,360 Speaker 1: the charge him, charge him sore nigga mm hmm. And 552 00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:26,440 Speaker 1: so that like I learned the game earlier. It's totally 553 00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:29,200 Speaker 1: a blessing because I didn't have to go through with 554 00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:32,000 Speaker 1: a manager that so me and more like I'm cool 555 00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:35,040 Speaker 1: with everybody, but I always got to deal directly with 556 00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:41,160 Speaker 1: the source. And so really that taught me everything I know. 557 00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:49,560 Speaker 1: So first hit record, um, they was coming back to back. 558 00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:53,160 Speaker 1: It's not super Woman, oh by myself here, but like 559 00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:59,520 Speaker 1: I was doing like hot boars hoos, didn't put it 560 00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:02,560 Speaker 1: on me and then I cried, like but I recorded, 561 00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:04,880 Speaker 1: I cried before I didn't put it on me. Child. 562 00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:07,120 Speaker 1: It was like so much stuff is going back to 563 00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:10,879 Speaker 1: back to back, So those records would be four super Yes. 564 00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:14,719 Speaker 1: Why did I not know? That's why people like I 565 00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:16,080 Speaker 1: love you from the nineties, I said, I don't know 566 00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:17,239 Speaker 1: why you love it for the nine becase a bit 567 00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:19,400 Speaker 1: wasn't out. I was all other people records in the nineties. 568 00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:23,560 Speaker 1: But would you did your first come out? I got 569 00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:27,360 Speaker 1: I think, oh one, your first single came out. Superwoman 570 00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:31,200 Speaker 1: came out two one, okay, so we are yeah, yeah, 571 00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:34,239 Speaker 1: or like two thousand two thousand one, because you know 572 00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:36,040 Speaker 1: what me was out in like ninety n like we 573 00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:38,640 Speaker 1: just celebrated like annivers I'm like, yeah, this sounds older 574 00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:42,960 Speaker 1: than MATUREY really are because I solo, our solo careers 575 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:45,880 Speaker 1: mirror then, but you was already active. But you want 576 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:49,160 Speaker 1: to know, I was singing backgrounds. I didn't have no 577 00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:51,719 Speaker 1: music out, none at all, but that's what I was 578 00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:57,080 Speaker 1: doing too, had records on. You had like but c is, 579 00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:59,200 Speaker 1: I still didn't think I'm mattered, So it didn't count 580 00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:06,880 Speaker 1: to me telling you out watching watching all the videos 581 00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:10,279 Speaker 1: that he was cracking you. I appreciate that because like 582 00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:12,120 Speaker 1: to me, it was just like dad, I still got 583 00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:17,120 Speaker 1: more work to do. But like tour with Missy, that's 584 00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:20,359 Speaker 1: when I got to tour with literally everybody every day 585 00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:23,440 Speaker 1: being with Aaliyah like that, those kind of things, I'm 586 00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:26,879 Speaker 1: just like, nobody will ever have that opportunity. Those were 587 00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:30,200 Speaker 1: We're doing jay Leno and then going doing tour like 588 00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:33,279 Speaker 1: she Missy stayed on tour for years, so it just 589 00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:37,400 Speaker 1: used to be so dope just to see her in 590 00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:40,760 Speaker 1: her element and she's so shot. So once she's done performance, 591 00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:43,680 Speaker 1: she leaving, I'm just like dag like I really get 592 00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:47,000 Speaker 1: to live the life. I really got to live the life. 593 00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:49,480 Speaker 1: So you were kind of like Charlie Murphy, Eddie Murphy, 594 00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:55,080 Speaker 1: like Eddie Murphy, every Murphy went home and she had 595 00:35:55,120 --> 00:36:00,800 Speaker 1: to leave what you need? Yeah, basketball, ye know for 596 00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:07,520 Speaker 1: real outside. Yeah, like that was a blessing. I'm a superwoman. 597 00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:13,520 Speaker 1: I always noticed that it says super woman too. Yeah, 598 00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:20,480 Speaker 1: we're Superwoman one. So super Woman? How did that go? Yeah? Well? Sup? 599 00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:24,920 Speaker 1: The no people have been asking me that because recently 600 00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:27,279 Speaker 1: it's been added to streaming site, so nobody knew for 601 00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:32,959 Speaker 1: years that there was a part one only yeah, because 602 00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:35,720 Speaker 1: they just thought that They thought it was Cura White. 603 00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:38,080 Speaker 1: So it was just like, so, why wouldn't have leave 604 00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:41,320 Speaker 1: the part two? Part one? Part one? Part one was 605 00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:46,200 Speaker 1: brand conson. That's when he was walking. Yeah. Yeah, and 606 00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:48,800 Speaker 1: they told us the song was too cocky. It was 607 00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:50,480 Speaker 1: two because I was like, you ain't got to look 608 00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:52,960 Speaker 1: Jermaine was the one who I was like, yo, you 609 00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:55,279 Speaker 1: like you kill it. I was like, you ain't got 610 00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:57,120 Speaker 1: to look up in the sky for a bird or 611 00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:59,399 Speaker 1: a plane. You're looking for a change, and I'm saving 612 00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:03,840 Speaker 1: your Head's got the s on my chest. Summer soup boom, 613 00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:15,000 Speaker 1: you ain't gotta look up in the sky for heard. 614 00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:18,640 Speaker 1: But it was like, remember that Beantie single beat Stopped, 615 00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:22,200 Speaker 1: Don't Chill? We used that for beat. Cox put keys 616 00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:26,120 Speaker 1: on it, so it was like it was too cocky, 617 00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:28,920 Speaker 1: So that was called super Wan. We thought it was 618 00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:31,880 Speaker 1: gonna be a problem with Carol White Superwoman because then 619 00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:34,360 Speaker 1: the titles and then registering it. So I was like, 620 00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:36,640 Speaker 1: all I bet I was in l A. There was 621 00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:40,239 Speaker 1: remember when DreamWorks had the labels. There was an artist 622 00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:43,040 Speaker 1: named Canela Cox and I was boke o producing on 623 00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:45,160 Speaker 1: her songs and she was done. She had two hours 624 00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:47,560 Speaker 1: left on her session and I was like me and 625 00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:49,200 Speaker 1: my manager at the time, Loria, I was like, we 626 00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:52,000 Speaker 1: might as well used this time. Clue had left a 627 00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:55,799 Speaker 1: beat and he was like, if you get this song, Clue, yeah, 628 00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:57,840 Speaker 1: DJ Clue di super Woman part one. So there was 629 00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:01,160 Speaker 1: wasn't part too excuse me, there wasn't even no keys 630 00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:05,480 Speaker 1: on it. It was just so what I did was 631 00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:16,200 Speaker 1: I smoked me some weed and I never heard nobody body. Um. 632 00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:19,160 Speaker 1: I smoked some weet and I went in there and 633 00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:21,920 Speaker 1: I say Superwoman down because I was so used to 634 00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:25,240 Speaker 1: Missy teach me do your vocals different ways each chorus. 635 00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:27,279 Speaker 1: So when I found out we could fly vo because 636 00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:28,920 Speaker 1: I was like, fly because we don't have much time 637 00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:31,560 Speaker 1: left and we have to get it out of still 638 00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:34,279 Speaker 1: somebody's session. Yeah okay, So and I didn't want to 639 00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:44,520 Speaker 1: label to find out, so Traino was I think her biggs. 640 00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:55,600 Speaker 1: He was like, Yo, they got some money over here. 641 00:38:55,840 --> 00:39:00,480 Speaker 1: We used to give like them check Out checks d 642 00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:06,520 Speaker 1: and and Cherry Ross checks always hit different. Let me 643 00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:14,120 Speaker 1: tell you. Jason Joshua, the amazing mixed master guy, the 644 00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:19,240 Speaker 1: mix sologists, Yeah, was at one point and DreamWorks really 645 00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:23,160 Speaker 1: had to see song structure too. While he was, Yo, 646 00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:26,960 Speaker 1: what do you mean the hook? So you know what? Yeah, 647 00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:30,480 Speaker 1: how do you have this job? I think at that 648 00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:32,520 Speaker 1: time they PARBT was just hiring black people. So like, 649 00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:40,560 Speaker 1: well that listen, I believe that. I believe that people 650 00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:46,840 Speaker 1: putting people in position. Yeah I love you brother, absolutely. Okay, 651 00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:50,480 Speaker 1: So you so you still her session? You do Superwoman too? 652 00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:53,120 Speaker 1: So because this was the other thing that, like you 653 00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:56,560 Speaker 1: said that that first that first sound that kicks in, 654 00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:01,759 Speaker 1: they were multiple songs for you that in my mind, 655 00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:04,840 Speaker 1: I was like, they sounds like get old video games. 656 00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:11,239 Speaker 1: It sounds to me like if if a nigga said 657 00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:15,759 Speaker 1: this is how super Mario sounds, but then you would 658 00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:19,200 Speaker 1: come on seeing church. So just imagine, imagine there was 659 00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:24,160 Speaker 1: no keys, no strings, no baseline. It's just so I 660 00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:30,800 Speaker 1: literally no drums. It was just that was it. That 661 00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:32,600 Speaker 1: was it. So I sang it all the way down. 662 00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:34,640 Speaker 1: When it got to the bridge, I had to You 663 00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:36,680 Speaker 1: could probably hear it, like if you go back you 664 00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:38,480 Speaker 1: can hear. I had to do. I said, drop the 665 00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:41,359 Speaker 1: music out right here, and so I said every day 666 00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:47,840 Speaker 1: I love you in us fair show a chicken. So 667 00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:50,839 Speaker 1: I literally save off my snap and now I don't 668 00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:53,000 Speaker 1: know play when I second like that, and then added 669 00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:55,520 Speaker 1: the backgrounds. So when they finally got in with the 670 00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:58,680 Speaker 1: with the additional keys and program at people, they played 671 00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:02,160 Speaker 1: around it. So it's really he goes a little secret, 672 00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:04,960 Speaker 1: it's really not on. I always sing off time and 673 00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:12,280 Speaker 1: but be on time. You get it, so it's likely, 674 00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:17,920 Speaker 1: but it's always always. It's just so I was like 675 00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:19,719 Speaker 1: the person. I was just like, I know I sing 676 00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:24,800 Speaker 1: off b but it's like it's a bob. You told me, 677 00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:27,480 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna tell you. Gave me a copy one 678 00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:29,120 Speaker 1: day and I think I probably went back in the 679 00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:31,120 Speaker 1: big and cry because I was like, damn, Like when 680 00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:33,480 Speaker 1: you notice people that really sing and really do this. 681 00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:37,479 Speaker 1: We was at d night show in Atlanta. You was like, Sis, 682 00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:39,719 Speaker 1: You've been one of the only people that can sing 683 00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:43,440 Speaker 1: with tempo and I was just like, I never thought 684 00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:48,560 Speaker 1: anybody noticed. He was like and stick like you feel 685 00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:52,320 Speaker 1: me sing though you was like sing with not like 686 00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:56,000 Speaker 1: dance around and you know what I'm saying and dumb 687 00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:59,040 Speaker 1: it down. You've actually been able to actually sing a 688 00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:02,319 Speaker 1: real vocal. That's a blessing. And so to hear someone 689 00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:05,759 Speaker 1: noticed that, be like, Yo, how do he know? Because 690 00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:08,239 Speaker 1: people don't be knowing because I wanted someone too so 691 00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:12,320 Speaker 1: bad but I couldn't. I couldn't figure out the science 692 00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:15,560 Speaker 1: on it. But you know crazy, It's like then I'll 693 00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:17,239 Speaker 1: listen to your song and I'm like, like, how do 694 00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:19,800 Speaker 1: you know? And I was like, God, I thank you 695 00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:22,160 Speaker 1: for the gifts you have given me without repentance, and 696 00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:24,319 Speaker 1: the talents that you have given me. But I wish 697 00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:26,040 Speaker 1: I could play because if I could play, I was like, 698 00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:31,200 Speaker 1: I killed all of these bitches that girl I know, 699 00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:39,880 Speaker 1: God say like crazy and before I arrest it. But 700 00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:41,520 Speaker 1: it was just like I used to always feel like 701 00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:43,920 Speaker 1: if I could play then then they will really be 702 00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:46,400 Speaker 1: able to get it. But then I realized my voice 703 00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:48,560 Speaker 1: is my instrument, and if they get it, they get it. 704 00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:50,480 Speaker 1: If they don't, they'll get it later. And now a 705 00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:53,759 Speaker 1: lot of people and you and you like you have 706 00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:57,560 Speaker 1: songs that I mean, you know this when they come 707 00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:03,360 Speaker 1: on this is yeah, they lose their mind, like the 708 00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:06,440 Speaker 1: we do R and B Club when we went headliner 709 00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:09,680 Speaker 1: and Mike Gardening them in in Miami. Your songs are 710 00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:13,840 Speaker 1: played there semi videos and I'd be like, yo, this 711 00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:16,759 Speaker 1: is like, how do they still? But then you know 712 00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:19,600 Speaker 1: what what my angels says, not what you say or 713 00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:22,360 Speaker 1: what you do, is how you make people feel. And 714 00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:24,560 Speaker 1: I always realized a lot of these people were in 715 00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:27,680 Speaker 1: elementary school and junior high running home to watch one 716 00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:31,400 Speaker 1: O six in part they remember that, and so now 717 00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:33,920 Speaker 1: that they're growing, were like, you all remember running home 718 00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:35,719 Speaker 1: and ask my moment, can I get them color hairs? 719 00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:37,200 Speaker 1: And they don't know what I used to have to 720 00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:39,920 Speaker 1: go through to be able to get the blue hair, 721 00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:42,359 Speaker 1: to be able to wear those colors. Yeah, we don't 722 00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:44,520 Speaker 1: want you to scare the consumer, because you know, it's 723 00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:53,120 Speaker 1: like another meeting remember the meetings, and he used to 724 00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:55,400 Speaker 1: to tell them like, y'all don't get it, and they 725 00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:57,640 Speaker 1: will be like, who then do you think he is? 726 00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:03,440 Speaker 1: Because you're Christmas brother? That wow? But okay, now we 727 00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:08,480 Speaker 1: see what they got now, the same tattoos all in 728 00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:13,000 Speaker 1: their mouth. I just have to hide my tattoos. I 729 00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:15,120 Speaker 1: just have to hide my tattoos. Still. I was just like, nah, 730 00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:18,920 Speaker 1: you know what you work for me when I saw you, 731 00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:21,480 Speaker 1: and what I still feel when I hear your music. Now, 732 00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:25,640 Speaker 1: there was a time in music when it was very shiny, right. 733 00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:28,399 Speaker 1: It was. It was the puff dad here. Everybody knew 734 00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:30,520 Speaker 1: about it. It was the shiny suits. And then d 735 00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:35,120 Speaker 1: m X came MHM and he made music very aggressive 736 00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:39,000 Speaker 1: and very soulful. People didn't people don't got rested soul. 737 00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:42,000 Speaker 1: People don't mention how soul for d m X is 738 00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:45,120 Speaker 1: music was. You felt it in yourself to this day 739 00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:50,200 Speaker 1: and to this day, they can play a hunted R 740 00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:53,279 Speaker 1: and B songs and then one of yours comes on 741 00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:58,320 Speaker 1: and it's dark and hell is hot. Niggas is getting 742 00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:02,160 Speaker 1: to it when a little mo record plays, Because you 743 00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:06,040 Speaker 1: bring a different type of grit and grind to R 744 00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:10,040 Speaker 1: and B music. That just didn't it didn't exist from 745 00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:15,440 Speaker 1: a female's perspective. It's so aggressive when it comes on. 746 00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:18,440 Speaker 1: It's like we went when we were just in Miami. 747 00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:22,200 Speaker 1: We were all in Miami together having a good time. Man, 748 00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:29,120 Speaker 1: I had so much fun. I is, y'all don't understand 749 00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:32,040 Speaker 1: how much fun I had so looking big. My sister 750 00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:34,480 Speaker 1: was like, bet you was. I said, I came from 751 00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:38,200 Speaker 1: a very dark place. So the pandemic was a blessing 752 00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:41,480 Speaker 1: for me, so to be able to get out and 753 00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:44,279 Speaker 1: to enjoy and to let my hand down so I 754 00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:46,160 Speaker 1: can sing on stage and will be when I get 755 00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:50,359 Speaker 1: to be like, say, because I've seen you on stage 756 00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:53,160 Speaker 1: and I'm like saying, but when I get to be 757 00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:59,600 Speaker 1: like I need to be a fan fan so family, 758 00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:03,400 Speaker 1: But I'm a question because you got a yeah, and 759 00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:06,520 Speaker 1: when and when that record dropped, when they dropped your 760 00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:11,200 Speaker 1: record at the end, it's just like it was like yo, mom, 761 00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:12,800 Speaker 1: Like people say to me, They was like, mo, you 762 00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:14,520 Speaker 1: was fool and it was like, yo, you seem like 763 00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:16,960 Speaker 1: you loved I said, I did you had a ball? 764 00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:19,480 Speaker 1: You have the same question like nine times? Yeah, And 765 00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:23,839 Speaker 1: I still want to ask you that question today. She asked, 766 00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:28,239 Speaker 1: don't you gotta ask him, Yeah, I done with you, 767 00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:40,200 Speaker 1: but yes, you know, speaking of your music and your 768 00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:42,560 Speaker 1: past and the things that you had to go through 769 00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:47,239 Speaker 1: in this industry that looked at female R and B 770 00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:50,960 Speaker 1: in a certain light, it was very light seeing it's 771 00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:53,319 Speaker 1: very soft. It was you know what I mean, that's 772 00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:57,240 Speaker 1: just let's just be real. It was it wasn't those tattoos. 773 00:46:57,239 --> 00:46:58,920 Speaker 1: If you had tattoos, you was putting some clothes over 774 00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:02,600 Speaker 1: those tattoos. There were things that that in this business 775 00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:06,320 Speaker 1: from a female R and B perspective, just weren't accepted. 776 00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:10,200 Speaker 1: It was just like, that just doesn't work for the consumer, 777 00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:14,600 Speaker 1: when in reality, these motherfucker's didn't even really know the consumer. 778 00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:20,480 Speaker 1: They were so far removed from who outside was and is. 779 00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:23,120 Speaker 1: They were not outside. And you want to know what's 780 00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:26,320 Speaker 1: crazy is once I got outside and I learned from myself, 781 00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:28,239 Speaker 1: I found out I was just like, why am I 782 00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:29,960 Speaker 1: big in the bay earlier? Why are we talking about 783 00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:31,920 Speaker 1: come out with these girls? Was like, yo, one of 784 00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:34,920 Speaker 1: my big in the trenches is because I look like 785 00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:38,960 Speaker 1: they can look like me. Yeah, I'm from the band. 786 00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:41,200 Speaker 1: You want to know what crazy is? When I go 787 00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:45,040 Speaker 1: out there, the love I wouldn't already know because I 788 00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:48,040 Speaker 1: was like around when the East Coast and West Coast, 789 00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:50,279 Speaker 1: like I was around that time, So it was just 790 00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:51,799 Speaker 1: like if you came out here, do your work, get 791 00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:54,480 Speaker 1: your home, you fear me. So then you went out 792 00:47:56,600 --> 00:48:02,919 Speaker 1: different summer jams or something like it to this day. 793 00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:05,680 Speaker 1: To this day, I was out there a couple of 794 00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:08,800 Speaker 1: weeks ago. They had um I forgot what they call it, 795 00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:14,319 Speaker 1: but it was Bobby D Presents, Me, Ashanti, Nellie Yang 796 00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:19,560 Speaker 1: Yang Twins, little john A, Marie. Everybody was there and 797 00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:21,880 Speaker 1: so I'm thinking, who show up to just think that 798 00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:25,000 Speaker 1: they were sold out? And I looked in the crowd 799 00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:28,520 Speaker 1: and what they told us was the consumer. The majority 800 00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:33,040 Speaker 1: of people didn't even look like me. It was all Latina's, 801 00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:37,399 Speaker 1: It was all people, and they were by being yeah. 802 00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:41,040 Speaker 1: So because we did Oakland and on Aryan and I 803 00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:43,800 Speaker 1: was just like now, twenty years ago, they told me 804 00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:47,120 Speaker 1: I wouldn't connect with the consumer. You don't want to 805 00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:49,640 Speaker 1: scare them away. So what they further lets me know 806 00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:52,200 Speaker 1: is that they thought I wouldn't connect with the crossover. 807 00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:55,279 Speaker 1: The records crossed over. Then we broke records. Then we 808 00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:57,680 Speaker 1: broke so many records. Well put it on me that 809 00:48:57,760 --> 00:48:59,959 Speaker 1: they had to retire, and they swore that they were paid, 810 00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:03,439 Speaker 1: and yo, it was a whole thing. I was like, wait, 811 00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:06,799 Speaker 1: who paying for to people called up there. I was like, yo, 812 00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:08,600 Speaker 1: I can't even. There was the time remember when you 813 00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:12,839 Speaker 1: can't even They said that they were paying people. Def 814 00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:15,960 Speaker 1: gotta be paying to have that play that. They was 815 00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:18,600 Speaker 1: like no. People was like no, I really called up 816 00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:21,080 Speaker 1: there and they had us come out there and retire 817 00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:22,799 Speaker 1: the record because there was like, there's no way y'all 818 00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:27,839 Speaker 1: can always be number one? For like I used always wondered, 819 00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:29,279 Speaker 1: I was like, well, what is so big about it? 820 00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:32,040 Speaker 1: Because to be honest, I went there in freestyund everything 821 00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:34,960 Speaker 1: and none of it rhymed. What was so big about it? 822 00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:40,279 Speaker 1: On me? Where would I be without you? Baby? So 823 00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:43,000 Speaker 1: if you need me, if you want me to put 824 00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:48,080 Speaker 1: it on you because I love you, don't you forget 825 00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:52,279 Speaker 1: it Whenever you need me. If you own me to 826 00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:57,960 Speaker 1: put it on you, come on? Where doing rot? That's 827 00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:00,680 Speaker 1: you know? So they'd be like, maybe like you only 828 00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:02,440 Speaker 1: can sing a minute of a song because people lose 829 00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:05,479 Speaker 1: their interest. We can sing that whole song up until 830 00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:09,200 Speaker 1: the come on? Don't you know that? I love you, 831 00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:12,960 Speaker 1: I need you, I want you. I want you to 832 00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:15,239 Speaker 1: put it to the end to the song when you 833 00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:20,400 Speaker 1: hit the record go off, that's a blessing. None of 834 00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:25,920 Speaker 1: it would I be if it won't for your baby, 835 00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:34,439 Speaker 1: because I'm so tired of me long. If it won't, 836 00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:39,960 Speaker 1: none of it rhymes. If it won't to you, that's 837 00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:49,719 Speaker 1: that church. And will won't he will? That was the 838 00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:52,920 Speaker 1: most incorrect English. Or maybe you know what it mean. 839 00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:57,640 Speaker 1: Won't he win? That mean didn't he? Did? He? Ever? Know? What? 840 00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:08,120 Speaker 1: Did he did? Did he not do it? We understood? 841 00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:12,800 Speaker 1: So that comes out before Superwoman. So does that speed 842 00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:15,480 Speaker 1: up the process at a lecture at the time to say, hey, 843 00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:17,719 Speaker 1: we're going with a little more right now, because we 844 00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:20,320 Speaker 1: all know how that ship goes to sign and it's like, 845 00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:23,919 Speaker 1: oh yeah, and they're doing whatever they're doing, but we're 846 00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:26,720 Speaker 1: not really paying that much attention. It didn't speed up anything. 847 00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:29,399 Speaker 1: I had to send that record back to clue they 848 00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:36,360 Speaker 1: wind up literally rushed putting it together. Duro was his partner, 849 00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:38,560 Speaker 1: so the fact that he was an engineer mixing right 850 00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:40,359 Speaker 1: there in there clues to have a thing called Monday 851 00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:42,799 Speaker 1: Night Mixtape in New York and Hot ninety seven back 852 00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:45,239 Speaker 1: then he played it on his show. He made the 853 00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:47,640 Speaker 1: label catch up. He was like, he said, I promise 854 00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:49,839 Speaker 1: you so it's fab on there at the time. Yes, 855 00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:53,640 Speaker 1: because fab as a new artist. Yes, so while we're 856 00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:55,280 Speaker 1: in the studio and once I send it a clue 857 00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:58,719 Speaker 1: because that beat was initially for m O P. Let's 858 00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:02,439 Speaker 1: let's let's start there and would have been talking about 859 00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:09,359 Speaker 1: kidnappings all off Goldeth everywhere. But they was like, who 860 00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:10,719 Speaker 1: you wanna get on it? Because that would be dope 861 00:52:10,719 --> 00:52:12,640 Speaker 1: if you have a rapper. So by that time I 862 00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:14,359 Speaker 1: had already worked at everybody you want to get young, 863 00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:17,960 Speaker 1: get one getting him? You want on it? I was like, yo, 864 00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:22,000 Speaker 1: the boy, I'll be spelling his name or everything spins. Yeah, 865 00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:25,960 Speaker 1: he came. They look called Fabulous Sports, so he's look 866 00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:30,719 Speaker 1: on spis so he comes to the studio him. That's 867 00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:33,040 Speaker 1: when he was with Webb and Chail and I remember 868 00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:36,120 Speaker 1: like they came with yellow bandannas on and chicken boxes 869 00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:38,840 Speaker 1: and he had the next Heil pager like this. So 870 00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:40,200 Speaker 1: I was like, all right, I'm gonna let you do 871 00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:42,560 Speaker 1: your thing. Do you need anything? He was like no, 872 00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:45,040 Speaker 1: I'm good. Just he said, well I add so I 873 00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:46,799 Speaker 1: leave out and I come back. I was like, you done? 874 00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:49,640 Speaker 1: Oh lord, I hope this thing sounds dope. Is the 875 00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:52,640 Speaker 1: Monday night mixtapes he'd be doing, yo, he was like, 876 00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:54,400 Speaker 1: So he said, just let me just let you know. 877 00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:56,560 Speaker 1: I did a little something on the intro just in 878 00:52:56,640 --> 00:52:58,680 Speaker 1: case you could keep whatever, and then I added something 879 00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:01,480 Speaker 1: on the end. So soon as he was like, I 880 00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:03,680 Speaker 1: guess I ain't got no reason to main go around 881 00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:05,560 Speaker 1: what he said. I found a superwoman that could leap 882 00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:09,200 Speaker 1: from the truck. I said, we out of here, and 883 00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:17,120 Speaker 1: I heard his yeah, we are at it by that time, 884 00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:19,799 Speaker 1: because you know music at this point, are you new? 885 00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:22,640 Speaker 1: You know hits? At this point you're around Missy, you 886 00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:27,040 Speaker 1: can I was like, that's it, that's it. So remember 887 00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:28,720 Speaker 1: back then, if you put out a record, the label 888 00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:31,400 Speaker 1: can cease and desisted and stop it. But it was 889 00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:33,759 Speaker 1: getting so much Bird, I've been cease and desisted. I 890 00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:37,040 Speaker 1: have to have you. No. I kind of cease them 891 00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:48,239 Speaker 1: on Shots Fired. Yeah, yeah, yeah, own label because because 892 00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:51,080 Speaker 1: they were trying to get it. Yeah, and they were like, 893 00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:53,520 Speaker 1: your records going to interfere And I was like, what 894 00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:57,239 Speaker 1: do you mean, and now you can put out Yeah, 895 00:53:57,280 --> 00:53:58,920 Speaker 1: we should have we should have stayed with it. But 896 00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:03,040 Speaker 1: you know what what's crazy is is that everything that 897 00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:06,200 Speaker 1: we wasn't allowed to do then doing that, And I'm 898 00:54:06,239 --> 00:54:16,640 Speaker 1: like everything I'm not supposed to do. Yeah, Like I've 899 00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:19,440 Speaker 1: literally I can't feel a hit record I've been around 900 00:54:19,560 --> 00:54:22,080 Speaker 1: because I've been around everybody from the Missies, the Tams, 901 00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:24,600 Speaker 1: j jay Z's, the A And I was like, I 902 00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:28,480 Speaker 1: knew everybody, so I knew what a hit record felt like. 903 00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:31,279 Speaker 1: Damn the Sun because you look for you to pop 904 00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:35,400 Speaker 1: up on a record like Parking Lot. Yeah, and they 905 00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:37,279 Speaker 1: gotta really, they got to really getting his bag to 906 00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:39,800 Speaker 1: understand that little Mo was on Parking Lot then. And 907 00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:42,759 Speaker 1: then Jay call you like yo, because I used to 908 00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:45,680 Speaker 1: think I was his cousin come to the studio. I 909 00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:48,600 Speaker 1: used think I was everybody's cousin, from John Key to 910 00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:53,120 Speaker 1: jay Z. That's crazy, that's crazy. That's insane. It's crazy 911 00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:56,480 Speaker 1: and to him and I want to know, And I 912 00:54:56,520 --> 00:54:58,879 Speaker 1: don't know if people I pay attention to a lot 913 00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:04,360 Speaker 1: of different ship. When you would sing hooks for niggas, 914 00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:09,160 Speaker 1: you wouldn't sing them as a girl. You would sing 915 00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:12,640 Speaker 1: the hook as they would sing the hook, which was 916 00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:16,920 Speaker 1: very odd to me, really like, what's the what's the 917 00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:20,040 Speaker 1: what's the fabi? Um? Can't let you go? Oh yeah, 918 00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:24,520 Speaker 1: well you're singing to the girl with him, but you're 919 00:55:24,520 --> 00:55:27,799 Speaker 1: supposed to be the girl. But parking lot pimping. Yeah, 920 00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:31,120 Speaker 1: you're singing about parking lot pimper like you wanted to. Yo. 921 00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:41,800 Speaker 1: I really I didn't even you know what, I I 922 00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:44,879 Speaker 1: don't even think about that. I just thought about that. Yo, 923 00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:48,600 Speaker 1: that's crazy. You could get me in the woking lot hollydad. 924 00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:54,200 Speaker 1: But just that I think about it, I used to 925 00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:57,560 Speaker 1: want to be big and a nigga so bad because 926 00:55:57,600 --> 00:56:02,200 Speaker 1: you really had to be as Na. So yeah, so 927 00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:05,480 Speaker 1: it was like I like I had to That's a 928 00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:17,040 Speaker 1: great perception. That is crazy. I'm like, really did that? 929 00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:22,320 Speaker 1: Look at whatever this is. I'm buying the whole bottom. 930 00:56:24,120 --> 00:56:28,480 Speaker 1: I none of those this this is a vibe um 931 00:56:28,840 --> 00:56:32,719 Speaker 1: got me thinking of this mother son. So there's also 932 00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:35,960 Speaker 1: life I won't say after music, but all within music, 933 00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:41,919 Speaker 1: where it be TV and radio And what were those 934 00:56:42,080 --> 00:56:45,560 Speaker 1: transitions like and that did they come at a at 935 00:56:45,560 --> 00:56:48,680 Speaker 1: a time where you needed them or were they things 936 00:56:48,760 --> 00:56:51,400 Speaker 1: that you just decided, you know what, I want to 937 00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:53,839 Speaker 1: branch off and do some other things. Let me get 938 00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:56,920 Speaker 1: in to this space because you know, I know, from 939 00:56:56,960 --> 00:57:00,839 Speaker 1: an artist standpoint, there are we all know there are 940 00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:04,440 Speaker 1: there are mountain tops, and then there are valley loads, 941 00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:07,399 Speaker 1: and then we gotta we gotta gotta livot, we gotta pivot, 942 00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:09,800 Speaker 1: we gotta scram. You know what what you'a got for 943 00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:12,480 Speaker 1: me over there? Yeah? Okay, all right, we fight, We 944 00:57:12,840 --> 00:57:15,520 Speaker 1: fight the chickens. Alright, alright, I'm the announcer at the 945 00:57:15,600 --> 00:57:23,320 Speaker 1: chicken fights on Wednesday nights. They got it's it's okaya, 946 00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:32,000 Speaker 1: come see me chicken fights and I'll be at the bullfight. Yo. Yo, 947 00:57:34,040 --> 00:57:37,080 Speaker 1: He's like, no, people have no idea. So how do 948 00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:42,120 Speaker 1: you get to television? I did radio first, Okay, so 949 00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:45,560 Speaker 1: this is how I got in the radio. It's so crazy, 950 00:57:45,840 --> 00:57:48,800 Speaker 1: I would um, I was. I was living between Merland 951 00:57:48,840 --> 00:57:52,000 Speaker 1: and New York at the time, and so I used 952 00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:55,760 Speaker 1: to watch Martin in high school and so ye like 953 00:57:56,680 --> 00:57:58,680 Speaker 1: when I met Martin, I'll myself. Had it not been 954 00:57:58,720 --> 00:58:01,480 Speaker 1: for you, I wouldn't have been able to do radio. Um. 955 00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:05,720 Speaker 1: Shout out to Ursulain Radium is my home girls, Martin sisters, 956 00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:13,840 Speaker 1: who I love very dearly. Everybody wanted the podcast to 957 00:58:13,880 --> 00:58:19,960 Speaker 1: believe trust and believe um. So I remember Tracy Clarity 958 00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:22,960 Speaker 1: was the program director at High nineties seven and so 959 00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:25,680 Speaker 1: one day I think I filled in for I used 960 00:58:25,720 --> 00:58:27,680 Speaker 1: to feel it for Angie Martinez. I would feel it. 961 00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:31,120 Speaker 1: I feeled it one night for Funk Flex. Everybody used 962 00:58:31,120 --> 00:58:32,960 Speaker 1: to have had me feeling. I filled in one morning. 963 00:58:33,520 --> 00:58:37,280 Speaker 1: That's what started Buck while I was there. So she 964 00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:40,360 Speaker 1: was just like, hey, do you want come working radio? 965 00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:44,360 Speaker 1: And I was like, you know, I will, But the 966 00:58:44,480 --> 00:58:47,480 Speaker 1: labels like no, because that will be a conflict, yea 967 00:58:47,720 --> 00:58:54,040 Speaker 1: competition and conflict. And yeah, that's what I learned. They 968 00:58:54,160 --> 00:58:55,640 Speaker 1: used to tell you know that I can't tell you 969 00:58:55,720 --> 00:58:58,360 Speaker 1: know because they'd be like, dude, you that's discrimination. You're 970 00:58:58,360 --> 00:59:00,800 Speaker 1: telling me I can't work. You know what I'm saying? 971 00:59:00,800 --> 00:59:02,200 Speaker 1: How imposed to take care of my family? So I 972 00:59:02,280 --> 00:59:04,400 Speaker 1: did radio because of that. And then when I got 973 00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:07,000 Speaker 1: pregnant with my daughter Heaven, that's when I was just 974 00:59:07,120 --> 00:59:11,680 Speaker 1: like THEA. Mitchem her and James Stevens. Yeah, like I 975 00:59:11,800 --> 00:59:14,520 Speaker 1: got history with all the O G S. THEA. Mitchell 976 00:59:14,600 --> 00:59:18,600 Speaker 1: gave me my first afternoon drive show in Baltimore. It 977 00:59:18,680 --> 00:59:20,440 Speaker 1: was called X one O five seven. They had just 978 00:59:20,520 --> 00:59:23,920 Speaker 1: switched from like talk radio or sports radio to hip 979 00:59:23,960 --> 00:59:26,080 Speaker 1: hop and R and B. So mind you ninety two 980 00:59:26,160 --> 00:59:28,240 Speaker 1: Q had been there for years, so we were a 981 00:59:28,320 --> 00:59:31,240 Speaker 1: new black station coming into a market that you're at 982 00:59:31,320 --> 00:59:34,880 Speaker 1: least expected to make it because Baltimore, you don't like you. 983 00:59:37,240 --> 00:59:41,160 Speaker 1: We were at least expected because you were at least 984 00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:43,760 Speaker 1: expected to make it. Especially it was almost like remember 985 00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:46,080 Speaker 1: when Power Want to Fire started? Oh how ninety seven 986 00:59:46,120 --> 00:59:49,440 Speaker 1: being here, you ain't gonna last. Ninety years later we lasted. 987 00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:51,840 Speaker 1: So it's just like I was just like, look, I'm pregnant, 988 00:59:52,120 --> 00:59:53,880 Speaker 1: I don't feel like this is my first child, feel 989 00:59:53,880 --> 00:59:55,480 Speaker 1: like going on the road. And she was like okay, 990 00:59:56,160 --> 00:59:59,520 Speaker 1: and she said, if you listen to pay attention, you'll 991 00:59:59,520 --> 01:00:01,880 Speaker 1: have a number one show. I listened to. I paid 992 01:00:01,880 --> 01:00:04,680 Speaker 1: attention and I had a number one show against the 993 01:00:05,440 --> 01:00:08,800 Speaker 1: We beat the number one shows. That was in Maryland. 994 01:00:09,480 --> 01:00:12,000 Speaker 1: So after I had my daughter, I wanted to stay there, 995 01:00:12,120 --> 01:00:15,760 Speaker 1: but the label call was just like, yeah, let's talk. 996 01:00:15,800 --> 01:00:18,840 Speaker 1: You go back outside, y'all, And that's when I started. Um, 997 01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:21,880 Speaker 1: I did Meet the Girl next Door album, so I 998 01:00:21,960 --> 01:00:24,200 Speaker 1: did that whole album pregnant, So I was like, no 999 01:00:24,440 --> 01:00:27,200 Speaker 1: much pregnant recording a whole album remember Mike Michael was 1000 01:00:27,240 --> 01:00:30,520 Speaker 1: in the studio. I was like walking from the studio 1001 01:00:31,600 --> 01:00:33,760 Speaker 1: recorded and then just like the birth of my daughter, 1002 01:00:33,800 --> 01:00:36,280 Speaker 1: I was like back out on the road, like a 1003 01:00:36,400 --> 01:00:39,360 Speaker 1: couple of weeks later, and I remember John Peki called 1004 01:00:39,400 --> 01:00:42,600 Speaker 1: me nice said, you're died from you together. Don't be 1005 01:00:42,680 --> 01:00:49,800 Speaker 1: got out of weeks after six weeks. And I was 1006 01:00:49,920 --> 01:00:52,560 Speaker 1: outside before that because I just I've never said, if 1007 01:00:52,600 --> 01:00:55,120 Speaker 1: you realize, I've never sat down a day in my 1008 01:00:55,240 --> 01:00:58,200 Speaker 1: life since I was fifteen, even before then, Like I 1009 01:00:58,320 --> 01:01:01,760 Speaker 1: was doing that. Really, come on, let's talk about that though, 1010 01:01:02,120 --> 01:01:14,880 Speaker 1: man ter, I gotta started, what are we doing? Think? Yeah? 1011 01:01:15,400 --> 01:01:17,120 Speaker 1: So it was like I was every time I have 1012 01:01:17,200 --> 01:01:19,320 Speaker 1: a kid, people like every time you put out an album, 1013 01:01:19,520 --> 01:01:22,360 Speaker 1: you have a baby. I'm like, damn it, I gotta 1014 01:01:22,400 --> 01:01:24,960 Speaker 1: stop this man. So it was like you know, once, yeah, 1015 01:01:25,040 --> 01:01:27,600 Speaker 1: once my daughter she was born, and she was like 1016 01:01:27,960 --> 01:01:30,280 Speaker 1: she's to this day, she's twenty years old. She's at fast. 1017 01:01:30,360 --> 01:01:31,720 Speaker 1: So I was like, I just felt I could take 1018 01:01:31,760 --> 01:01:34,240 Speaker 1: on the road. So she's been on tour and everything, 1019 01:01:34,600 --> 01:01:37,480 Speaker 1: and they let her get her shots early because you know, 1020 01:01:37,520 --> 01:01:39,800 Speaker 1: you posted to weight like eight weeks, but she had 1021 01:01:39,880 --> 01:01:43,320 Speaker 1: teeth at like two months. Right at that two month 1022 01:01:43,360 --> 01:01:44,840 Speaker 1: mark when they puposed to get this. So I was 1023 01:01:44,920 --> 01:01:46,480 Speaker 1: just like we all siwe We was in Jamaica and 1024 01:01:46,880 --> 01:01:51,360 Speaker 1: was like and my mom and daddy because I would 1025 01:01:51,360 --> 01:01:53,320 Speaker 1: be like, I'm not hiring on nanny. I don't trust 1026 01:01:53,320 --> 01:01:55,600 Speaker 1: people around my kids because of trauma that happened to 1027 01:01:55,640 --> 01:01:57,960 Speaker 1: me when I was a child. So I was just like, yeah, 1028 01:01:58,120 --> 01:01:59,960 Speaker 1: so my mom and dad used to travel a road 1029 01:02:00,040 --> 01:02:02,920 Speaker 1: with me to the good stuff, and they were preachers, 1030 01:02:02,960 --> 01:02:06,240 Speaker 1: so there was circles and prayers formed around us preachers 1031 01:02:06,320 --> 01:02:08,720 Speaker 1: to yeah, my dad's a bishop both but he's the 1032 01:02:08,760 --> 01:02:12,800 Speaker 1: cool money driver. Yeah. Yeah. I had to fire him 1033 01:02:12,800 --> 01:02:14,880 Speaker 1: because he sleep one time and I was like, we 1034 01:02:15,000 --> 01:02:17,680 Speaker 1: can't have that. The Lord covered you though, because you 1035 01:02:17,760 --> 01:02:23,439 Speaker 1: still the Lord covered because we ain't and no ditch child. 1036 01:02:26,000 --> 01:02:28,560 Speaker 1: Do you remember the church trips how many times we 1037 01:02:28,600 --> 01:02:30,600 Speaker 1: didn't know if those drivers were licensed. You got to 1038 01:02:30,600 --> 01:02:32,320 Speaker 1: look to that side of the room when you have 1039 01:02:35,440 --> 01:02:38,160 Speaker 1: church and stuff, and you know, we never knew if 1040 01:02:38,200 --> 01:02:40,560 Speaker 1: the deacon or whoever was driving had a license. And 1041 01:02:40,600 --> 01:02:46,520 Speaker 1: the band they never got old changes made that stuff. Yes, 1042 01:02:46,720 --> 01:02:50,920 Speaker 1: we just to the church. Christian Union Missionary had a 1043 01:02:51,480 --> 01:02:54,880 Speaker 1: church buts and then and then uh, we broke down. 1044 01:02:55,000 --> 01:03:00,520 Speaker 1: We had the vans out in Marylanney always drive a 1045 01:03:00,560 --> 01:03:01,960 Speaker 1: coach bus and you had to pay the money and 1046 01:03:02,080 --> 01:03:04,240 Speaker 1: always be the people that he had the money. We 1047 01:03:04,320 --> 01:03:07,240 Speaker 1: take the trip in in Milwaukee, we take the trip 1048 01:03:07,320 --> 01:03:11,280 Speaker 1: to Great America. And then when I got to Maryland, 1049 01:03:11,720 --> 01:03:14,360 Speaker 1: that's when we that's when it was six and you 1050 01:03:14,440 --> 01:03:16,720 Speaker 1: get to go on the church six flashship or your 1051 01:03:16,720 --> 01:03:18,280 Speaker 1: school was going to the trip and you got to 1052 01:03:18,280 --> 01:03:21,440 Speaker 1: go to the summer church trip. Was cool because you 1053 01:03:21,880 --> 01:03:24,240 Speaker 1: you might have made a little connection, got a little 1054 01:03:24,760 --> 01:03:26,680 Speaker 1: little girlfriend. You know what I'm saying. You didn't know. 1055 01:03:28,800 --> 01:03:30,760 Speaker 1: We went to your church and you just made somebody. 1056 01:03:30,760 --> 01:03:32,560 Speaker 1: You might have been looking at the choir or something. 1057 01:03:32,680 --> 01:03:37,600 Speaker 1: Now yeah, yeah, yeah. And when you got to six 1058 01:03:37,680 --> 01:03:40,000 Speaker 1: Flags or whatever, where y'all is going, you know you 1059 01:03:40,240 --> 01:03:42,280 Speaker 1: you want on your own, you know where you went 1060 01:03:42,320 --> 01:03:49,360 Speaker 1: your way. You sitting next to her, her boyfriend to 1061 01:03:49,400 --> 01:03:57,000 Speaker 1: the church because the church girls do a little bad 1062 01:03:57,080 --> 01:04:00,240 Speaker 1: boys that used to be crazy. Actually became my girl friend. 1063 01:04:00,320 --> 01:04:07,480 Speaker 1: But she cheated on me. She cheated on me. Connor 1064 01:04:07,520 --> 01:04:09,120 Speaker 1: with the church, he was a good guy. I actually 1065 01:04:09,200 --> 01:04:15,320 Speaker 1: became a really good friend. Um. But yeah, yeah, remember 1066 01:04:15,360 --> 01:04:19,520 Speaker 1: the church. The church tis used to be lit. Everyone 1067 01:04:19,560 --> 01:04:22,040 Speaker 1: on the church, So you're doing radio. I didn't grow 1068 01:04:22,080 --> 01:04:30,000 Speaker 1: up the change, so um radio doing the radio. I've 1069 01:04:30,040 --> 01:04:33,600 Speaker 1: actually been on your radio show. So congrats to that, 1070 01:04:33,680 --> 01:04:36,640 Speaker 1: because radio is not easy. It's not because you think that, oh, 1071 01:04:36,680 --> 01:04:38,520 Speaker 1: because when you watch more, you think you just get 1072 01:04:38,600 --> 01:04:40,120 Speaker 1: to talk. But it was like, no, you have to 1073 01:04:40,160 --> 01:04:43,400 Speaker 1: do segments. You have to have fifteen seconds to like 1074 01:04:43,600 --> 01:04:48,000 Speaker 1: everything is just like, yeah, what's up? Names traffic up next? Okay, 1075 01:04:48,080 --> 01:04:49,880 Speaker 1: make sure you're leaning into this, and then we need 1076 01:04:49,960 --> 01:04:51,720 Speaker 1: to make sure you get to get the Walmart thing 1077 01:04:51,800 --> 01:04:53,720 Speaker 1: in and then get the all that. Then you have 1078 01:04:53,840 --> 01:04:56,640 Speaker 1: to make sure that people listening because they're going to 1079 01:04:56,720 --> 01:04:58,880 Speaker 1: tune out, but you got to make sure that you 1080 01:04:59,000 --> 01:05:02,240 Speaker 1: have to keep it. Like when I learned those metrics, 1081 01:05:02,280 --> 01:05:03,920 Speaker 1: I was like, wait, what do that mean? And then 1082 01:05:03,920 --> 01:05:06,280 Speaker 1: it was just like, yeah, that's the people who turned 1083 01:05:06,320 --> 01:05:09,120 Speaker 1: but they always come back, So you have to wear radio. 1084 01:05:09,520 --> 01:05:11,960 Speaker 1: They don't see you, they just hear you. So you 1085 01:05:12,120 --> 01:05:15,120 Speaker 1: have to honestly go up to people that's least expected 1086 01:05:15,360 --> 01:05:17,960 Speaker 1: to turn into you. I became the one that they 1087 01:05:18,080 --> 01:05:21,120 Speaker 1: least expected to tune it. So I had an audience 1088 01:05:21,560 --> 01:05:24,080 Speaker 1: because mind you. We're going from talk radio, so that's 1089 01:05:24,120 --> 01:05:26,760 Speaker 1: mostly that's not black people. We don't want to listen 1090 01:05:26,760 --> 01:05:29,440 Speaker 1: to people talk. And I think it was like sports 1091 01:05:29,560 --> 01:05:31,040 Speaker 1: radio or whatever it was. So it was just like 1092 01:05:31,440 --> 01:05:33,280 Speaker 1: they're going from the good old boys and the people 1093 01:05:33,280 --> 01:05:36,479 Speaker 1: that like, I don't know why to coming into loud 1094 01:05:36,560 --> 01:05:39,480 Speaker 1: mouth a little month. I kind it out next a 1095 01:05:39,480 --> 01:05:42,080 Speaker 1: bog me and your ruling them. You feard me. So 1096 01:05:42,160 --> 01:05:46,440 Speaker 1: it's going from regular to dag on their ratchet. But 1097 01:05:46,600 --> 01:05:50,000 Speaker 1: it worked. It works. So how do you go from 1098 01:05:50,520 --> 01:05:53,800 Speaker 1: how do you go from radio being successful at radio 1099 01:05:54,560 --> 01:06:01,480 Speaker 1: to television? Just like honestly paying at jim M. I 1100 01:06:01,600 --> 01:06:04,480 Speaker 1: always see. I don't even watch TV now, so I 1101 01:06:04,560 --> 01:06:06,800 Speaker 1: don't know. But I always just like, as long as 1102 01:06:06,840 --> 01:06:09,760 Speaker 1: I'm allowed to do me, I'm like, that's what people like, 1103 01:06:10,040 --> 01:06:12,360 Speaker 1: let me be me, and that's what people like because 1104 01:06:12,360 --> 01:06:14,240 Speaker 1: I'm like, that's real. When you try to make me 1105 01:06:14,320 --> 01:06:17,120 Speaker 1: something I'm not or saying something that I don't want 1106 01:06:17,120 --> 01:06:18,959 Speaker 1: to say, like trust me and this have like trust 1107 01:06:19,000 --> 01:06:21,000 Speaker 1: me on this. I'm gonna give it my all, but 1108 01:06:21,040 --> 01:06:23,480 Speaker 1: I'm gonna let you know that's not gonna work because 1109 01:06:24,160 --> 01:06:27,960 Speaker 1: I've come from greatness, so I've like I've been through 1110 01:06:28,000 --> 01:06:30,680 Speaker 1: the school of hard knocks. I learned. I learned basically 1111 01:06:30,760 --> 01:06:33,160 Speaker 1: the hard way. But and everybody thinks it was easy 1112 01:06:33,200 --> 01:06:35,960 Speaker 1: because it goes from John too Missy to Jay to 1113 01:06:36,080 --> 01:06:38,440 Speaker 1: go to all of that stuff. But it's like I 1114 01:06:38,600 --> 01:06:41,480 Speaker 1: was learning that whole time. So what I learned as 1115 01:06:41,520 --> 01:06:44,200 Speaker 1: a teenager brought me into my adult life. So when 1116 01:06:44,440 --> 01:06:45,720 Speaker 1: there was a lot of people, there was a lot 1117 01:06:45,720 --> 01:06:47,320 Speaker 1: of artists, why is you doing ready, and why did 1118 01:06:47,360 --> 01:06:49,840 Speaker 1: you do a TV? Your fans ain't gonna like you, 1119 01:06:49,960 --> 01:06:51,720 Speaker 1: dada da da, because that makes you look a certain way. 1120 01:06:51,760 --> 01:06:54,160 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, that ain't gonna like me. And 1121 01:06:54,240 --> 01:06:56,280 Speaker 1: if they don't, I don't care. They're still gonna look. 1122 01:06:57,200 --> 01:06:59,280 Speaker 1: So whether you like me, love me, hate me, you're 1123 01:06:59,280 --> 01:07:01,680 Speaker 1: still gonna watch because it's gonna be real. And I 1124 01:07:01,840 --> 01:07:04,440 Speaker 1: realized over the years the reason why people have always 1125 01:07:04,800 --> 01:07:07,760 Speaker 1: gravitated to me to be like, yo, you keep that 1126 01:07:07,920 --> 01:07:12,520 Speaker 1: just so real, like what you like When I get drunk, 1127 01:07:12,520 --> 01:07:17,960 Speaker 1: I'm gonna turn this bit up. You are, ye, don't. 1128 01:07:20,480 --> 01:07:22,760 Speaker 1: It's interesting because it's a conversation that Tank and I 1129 01:07:22,880 --> 01:07:26,440 Speaker 1: have and we've had many times with his career. From 1130 01:07:26,480 --> 01:07:29,000 Speaker 1: me being on the business side of his career and 1131 01:07:29,160 --> 01:07:32,720 Speaker 1: me saying to him that when you have a gift, 1132 01:07:33,240 --> 01:07:37,160 Speaker 1: a real gift, you can't over saturate a real gift 1133 01:07:38,120 --> 01:07:40,960 Speaker 1: and there's no way to get away from that. Right, 1134 01:07:41,000 --> 01:07:43,920 Speaker 1: So someone telling you, oh, they ain't gonna like this, 1135 01:07:44,000 --> 01:07:47,120 Speaker 1: ain't gonna like that. No, you're just bringing more eyeballs 1136 01:07:47,600 --> 01:07:51,680 Speaker 1: to your gift and you're actually enhancing it because now 1137 01:07:51,800 --> 01:07:56,360 Speaker 1: you're giving your personality, which before social media was really 1138 01:07:56,480 --> 01:08:02,880 Speaker 1: tough for the wait for Cything Horner to call somebody 1139 01:08:03,360 --> 01:08:06,800 Speaker 1: knew you one way and you from from your videos 1140 01:08:06,840 --> 01:08:09,240 Speaker 1: and your your outcome or if you was looking like 1141 01:08:10,320 --> 01:08:12,959 Speaker 1: I was on Jay Lenno before I even had songs 1142 01:08:12,960 --> 01:08:15,360 Speaker 1: that so Missy took me on it like and I 1143 01:08:15,480 --> 01:08:22,439 Speaker 1: was like, man, have conversations, right, because the gift for 1144 01:08:22,520 --> 01:08:25,080 Speaker 1: me was social media, you know what I'm saying and 1145 01:08:25,160 --> 01:08:29,679 Speaker 1: actually going to meet people because people just assumed something 1146 01:08:29,760 --> 01:08:34,200 Speaker 1: about me because of the preacher's kid, and he shouldn't 1147 01:08:34,200 --> 01:08:36,840 Speaker 1: have done. Preachers preach mass me up a little bit. 1148 01:08:37,080 --> 01:08:42,000 Speaker 1: But a legend industry style, a legend for a lot 1149 01:08:42,040 --> 01:08:49,000 Speaker 1: of wrong things. But like let's talking about people. Aired. 1150 01:08:50,200 --> 01:08:52,360 Speaker 1: The media brought it back essential media. People got to 1151 01:08:52,400 --> 01:08:56,920 Speaker 1: see my personality, which is the one thing missing from 1152 01:08:57,400 --> 01:09:01,280 Speaker 1: you know, all of my photos and and probably my music. 1153 01:09:01,360 --> 01:09:03,519 Speaker 1: It wasn't well rounded in terms of you know, who 1154 01:09:03,600 --> 01:09:07,600 Speaker 1: I really am. You know, all they saw was you 1155 01:09:07,640 --> 01:09:12,479 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, That's all they saw. You said, 1156 01:09:12,479 --> 01:09:15,080 Speaker 1: you can't trust the nigga who bites his mouth to 1157 01:09:15,160 --> 01:09:17,559 Speaker 1: make it so look skinny to you. Watch the niggas 1158 01:09:17,560 --> 01:09:22,960 Speaker 1: who do that. I'm not saying that you were just doing. 1159 01:09:23,640 --> 01:09:27,479 Speaker 1: Those niggers that do this, they can't be trusted. I 1160 01:09:27,600 --> 01:09:30,880 Speaker 1: can't be trusted. Okay, just remember that I got sisters 1161 01:09:30,920 --> 01:09:37,000 Speaker 1: and I got a daughter, so I be looking at looking. 1162 01:09:38,720 --> 01:09:42,679 Speaker 1: If a nigga's doo lander's face can't trusted, you can't trusted. 1163 01:09:44,920 --> 01:09:47,800 Speaker 1: People would meet me and be like you are not 1164 01:09:48,000 --> 01:09:50,960 Speaker 1: what I expected. Because as soon as I walk in up, 1165 01:09:51,240 --> 01:09:54,040 Speaker 1: what's happened? What we're doing? Okay? We even sandwiches? Who 1166 01:09:54,120 --> 01:09:57,000 Speaker 1: needs a sandwich? I'm passing out the sandwiches at the luncheon? 1167 01:09:57,000 --> 01:09:59,479 Speaker 1: Who needs drinks? I got the ice team? You want 1168 01:09:59,600 --> 01:10:02,680 Speaker 1: sun that's got you like on that and then like 1169 01:10:03,640 --> 01:10:06,040 Speaker 1: you're great, Yeah I thought you were in that. That's 1170 01:10:06,080 --> 01:10:08,720 Speaker 1: what I mean. That crazy. So many times when I 1171 01:10:08,760 --> 01:10:11,599 Speaker 1: first started working with Tank. Really it was like, wow, dude, 1172 01:10:11,600 --> 01:10:16,400 Speaker 1: this dude like he mean and always got shirt off, 1173 01:10:17,240 --> 01:10:22,320 Speaker 1: like bro the nigga coolest hell. But nobody knew that 1174 01:10:22,439 --> 01:10:25,040 Speaker 1: because they only saw the album coverage, the videos and 1175 01:10:25,160 --> 01:10:27,720 Speaker 1: heard the song and they and they saw Preacher's Kid. 1176 01:10:29,160 --> 01:10:33,400 Speaker 1: Those are the things. Those are like you watch kid again, 1177 01:10:34,120 --> 01:10:37,800 Speaker 1: watch again. I get it. Yeah it was, but I 1178 01:10:37,880 --> 01:10:42,960 Speaker 1: mean god in that you feel like your television moment 1179 01:10:43,080 --> 01:10:46,320 Speaker 1: was an opportunity for people to actually see all of 1180 01:10:46,439 --> 01:10:49,559 Speaker 1: your personality and not just hear you. Yeah, they get 1181 01:10:49,640 --> 01:10:53,120 Speaker 1: to see actually like why it was so aggressive and 1182 01:10:53,200 --> 01:11:00,760 Speaker 1: then I realized, you know when yeah, that's what I 1183 01:11:00,880 --> 01:11:05,280 Speaker 1: heard was she did this. That's but that's the one 1184 01:11:05,320 --> 01:11:09,880 Speaker 1: that just makes it feel like that's ever had a 1185 01:11:09,960 --> 01:11:18,080 Speaker 1: bop off a little Kim. I need to have one 1186 01:11:18,120 --> 01:11:20,960 Speaker 1: of these because it was just like that Joe like 1187 01:11:21,400 --> 01:11:23,519 Speaker 1: even to this day was something I'm like, who, no 1188 01:11:23,760 --> 01:11:32,880 Speaker 1: other girls maybe total maybe total total, Yeah, but people 1189 01:11:33,120 --> 01:11:35,600 Speaker 1: really just bop they would because I came from you 1190 01:11:35,640 --> 01:11:37,760 Speaker 1: know side, that's not I always hated that, so I 1191 01:11:37,840 --> 01:11:43,920 Speaker 1: always looked the one always. Actually I was allowed to 1192 01:11:43,960 --> 01:11:47,400 Speaker 1: do that with John Pie Kid Jump. Yeah, you could 1193 01:11:47,400 --> 01:11:49,400 Speaker 1: be like no, you could be you could be youthful, 1194 01:11:49,439 --> 01:11:51,960 Speaker 1: you could be a young person. They was jumping at 1195 01:11:51,960 --> 01:11:55,680 Speaker 1: your stage. I was like John concerts. Those concerts we 1196 01:11:55,680 --> 01:11:58,479 Speaker 1: would actually wear street clothes. Yeah, and that was like 1197 01:11:58,680 --> 01:12:00,720 Speaker 1: kind of frowned upon church, you know what I'm saying. 1198 01:12:00,760 --> 01:12:02,840 Speaker 1: But we got to dress how we wanted to dress 1199 01:12:02,880 --> 01:12:04,560 Speaker 1: to come to a John p Key concert, and we 1200 01:12:04,640 --> 01:12:08,000 Speaker 1: got to turn up, turn up, and he would mix 1201 01:12:08,160 --> 01:12:11,720 Speaker 1: in you know a lot of the secular music with 1202 01:12:11,880 --> 01:12:13,800 Speaker 1: the band playing certain stuff, and we'd be like this 1203 01:12:13,920 --> 01:12:18,120 Speaker 1: the oh my god, this is crazy, and they would 1204 01:12:18,200 --> 01:12:31,400 Speaker 1: know me should go to the like, oh God, just 1205 01:12:31,560 --> 01:12:36,640 Speaker 1: imagined being in church, but not really in church, you 1206 01:12:36,680 --> 01:12:38,080 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. It was like they gave you 1207 01:12:38,160 --> 01:12:42,600 Speaker 1: outside of love, that a lot of outside something. I 1208 01:12:42,720 --> 01:12:45,280 Speaker 1: just grew up in the wrong place, man, like he 1209 01:12:45,439 --> 01:12:46,720 Speaker 1: just if I would have grew up like in the 1210 01:12:46,800 --> 01:12:50,200 Speaker 1: South for the middle. But all of those churches didn't 1211 01:12:50,200 --> 01:12:53,000 Speaker 1: have all of us, all all of our probably our 1212 01:12:53,080 --> 01:13:00,280 Speaker 1: home churches basic they were basic. My church was traditional, basically, Yeah, 1213 01:13:00,560 --> 01:13:03,519 Speaker 1: my church. Some of the you know, some of the 1214 01:13:03,600 --> 01:13:06,200 Speaker 1: breaking of the traditions in my church. It was me 1215 01:13:07,560 --> 01:13:10,160 Speaker 1: and that was from me going to see John b 1216 01:13:10,280 --> 01:13:12,120 Speaker 1: KEI and hanging out with John Pike and listening to 1217 01:13:12,280 --> 01:13:14,519 Speaker 1: John like and listening to the commission like that was 1218 01:13:14,720 --> 01:13:19,439 Speaker 1: me trying to break those traditions and say, man, we kids, Man, yeah, 1219 01:13:19,880 --> 01:13:23,200 Speaker 1: why do we have to listen? Don't pay the risk. 1220 01:13:33,240 --> 01:13:36,360 Speaker 1: But we would do that in church. Absolutely, I'll be 1221 01:13:36,439 --> 01:13:39,080 Speaker 1: playing all sorts of stuff they're offering and maybe like 1222 01:13:39,360 --> 01:13:40,880 Speaker 1: but then they'll be like, oh, we know what that is, 1223 01:13:41,200 --> 01:13:44,600 Speaker 1: but you supposed to be deep save spooky, how do 1224 01:13:44,600 --> 01:13:47,320 Speaker 1: you know what it is? So but what's crazy is 1225 01:13:47,400 --> 01:13:49,360 Speaker 1: is that I'm trying to think who broke it down? Man? 1226 01:13:49,360 --> 01:13:51,640 Speaker 1: I think it was Joe Wilson because I was like, 1227 01:13:52,000 --> 01:13:55,000 Speaker 1: he plays like he played. I told him one time. 1228 01:13:55,040 --> 01:13:57,439 Speaker 1: I was like, I said, don't take this the wrong way. 1229 01:13:58,160 --> 01:14:06,919 Speaker 1: Your gift is Lucifer Eric. He's like, wait, Lucifer became Satan. 1230 01:14:07,439 --> 01:14:12,000 Speaker 1: He was the most beautiful. Yeah, he walked in music dripped. 1231 01:14:12,680 --> 01:14:17,080 Speaker 1: They said he walked in the set music drip. He 1232 01:14:17,280 --> 01:14:23,360 Speaker 1: walked and it was a sound. So you're Delucifer. I'm 1233 01:14:23,400 --> 01:14:26,280 Speaker 1: just like, nah, that was the most beautiful. But he 1234 01:14:26,360 --> 01:14:28,599 Speaker 1: got so caught up. That's why I's like with this industry, 1235 01:14:29,479 --> 01:14:35,960 Speaker 1: they come on this industry. You can come in if 1236 01:14:36,000 --> 01:14:38,920 Speaker 1: you come in. That's why I learned to have tough skin, 1237 01:14:39,479 --> 01:14:41,720 Speaker 1: and I get it. I came in just like just 1238 01:14:41,800 --> 01:14:44,240 Speaker 1: wanted to work. Oh my god, I could say, and 1239 01:14:44,360 --> 01:14:47,920 Speaker 1: that's how you get taking advantage of So now I 1240 01:14:48,000 --> 01:14:50,320 Speaker 1: get it. If you come and smiling, the hippy and 1241 01:14:50,479 --> 01:14:56,000 Speaker 1: excite it, they're literally devout. I've seen people devour and 1242 01:14:56,000 --> 01:14:59,080 Speaker 1: I'm like, damn SI And I always thought, oh my god, 1243 01:14:59,160 --> 01:15:01,639 Speaker 1: they're gonna pass me, because why am I still here? 1244 01:15:02,479 --> 01:15:06,160 Speaker 1: Because I survived, not only to turn up what was in, 1245 01:15:06,439 --> 01:15:09,000 Speaker 1: what was in parted and placed into me as a 1246 01:15:09,120 --> 01:15:12,320 Speaker 1: child and as a team. It carried over to to 1247 01:15:13,040 --> 01:15:16,560 Speaker 1: this day. Now forget it. So it was, it was, 1248 01:15:16,720 --> 01:15:19,360 Speaker 1: it was. It was never your last. It was you were. 1249 01:15:19,439 --> 01:15:24,640 Speaker 1: You were given an extension on you because let me 1250 01:15:24,720 --> 01:15:28,120 Speaker 1: tell you something about you. We talked about me. Let 1251 01:15:28,200 --> 01:15:30,160 Speaker 1: me just tell you this, because you want to know 1252 01:15:30,200 --> 01:15:31,720 Speaker 1: why I asked you a question so many times. I 1253 01:15:31,840 --> 01:15:34,680 Speaker 1: was just like, I don't think like people like us, 1254 01:15:35,080 --> 01:15:38,960 Speaker 1: We don't realize our gifts have not only changed lives, 1255 01:15:39,040 --> 01:15:43,400 Speaker 1: but it's changed the world. Your music has changed my 1256 01:15:43,520 --> 01:15:47,920 Speaker 1: life because nobody sings like that. You could do what 1257 01:15:48,000 --> 01:15:50,800 Speaker 1: they did. They can't do what you did. So I 1258 01:15:50,920 --> 01:15:52,640 Speaker 1: listened to people, I'm like, yoah, that's all take and 1259 01:15:52,680 --> 01:15:54,639 Speaker 1: I'll tell you off the record. I was like, child, 1260 01:15:55,120 --> 01:16:00,800 Speaker 1: that's that's his whole sound. There's a sound. So when 1261 01:16:00,840 --> 01:16:04,000 Speaker 1: we hear you, we know it's you, even if it's 1262 01:16:04,000 --> 01:16:09,880 Speaker 1: somebody else. Tryes. Yeah, trust me. People to have awards 1263 01:16:10,360 --> 01:16:12,800 Speaker 1: that it will take up this whole run if it 1264 01:16:12,920 --> 01:16:17,000 Speaker 1: wasn't for taking this the note. Yeah, so I get it, 1265 01:16:18,280 --> 01:16:21,080 Speaker 1: and they'll never and if we was probably a different 1266 01:16:21,120 --> 01:16:25,240 Speaker 1: color that would give you all the praise. But that's 1267 01:16:25,280 --> 01:16:28,120 Speaker 1: a whole, another whole, another bag. But that's that's what 1268 01:16:28,200 --> 01:16:30,479 Speaker 1: I'm saying. I've seen people I'm just like, wait, man 1269 01:16:30,800 --> 01:16:33,640 Speaker 1: adds they're doing okay, they say that's church. This is 1270 01:16:34,080 --> 01:16:38,200 Speaker 1: I literally dumbed down my gift because I was like, 1271 01:16:38,240 --> 01:16:42,640 Speaker 1: I don't sound like that, but y'all come on, now, 1272 01:16:43,160 --> 01:16:45,560 Speaker 1: we wasn't when Johnny was passing that, Mike, that's the 1273 01:16:45,600 --> 01:16:47,439 Speaker 1: air I come from. When it was passing, that might 1274 01:16:47,560 --> 01:16:49,080 Speaker 1: let you come out with that damn giving it to 1275 01:16:49,120 --> 01:16:53,240 Speaker 1: you no more so what they considered now, oh my god, 1276 01:16:53,320 --> 01:16:55,840 Speaker 1: that's bullying, that's traumatizing. No, it wasn't it built character 1277 01:16:56,120 --> 01:17:02,880 Speaker 1: period period. We were tried by fire, fire fire as kids. 1278 01:17:08,320 --> 01:17:11,200 Speaker 1: I had to get that out. But that's not true. 1279 01:17:11,600 --> 01:17:15,800 Speaker 1: We were tried by fire. You're not you're not good 1280 01:17:15,960 --> 01:17:18,240 Speaker 1: enough to be up here. Have a seat. You're not leading, 1281 01:17:18,320 --> 01:17:27,920 Speaker 1: no solo, have a seat. Abundant came, you're ready, say 1282 01:17:27,960 --> 01:17:33,560 Speaker 1: you off. You're really off, because you were because I was. 1283 01:17:35,800 --> 01:17:39,240 Speaker 1: You're flat. You're flat. Remember. Don't you get up there 1284 01:17:39,479 --> 01:17:41,479 Speaker 1: and they call you the sing a solo and be 1285 01:17:41,560 --> 01:17:43,320 Speaker 1: like I don't want to saying it's like you better 1286 01:17:43,360 --> 01:17:45,320 Speaker 1: sing or else. The Lord is gonna give your voice 1287 01:17:45,360 --> 01:17:50,880 Speaker 1: to someone else. God sence we got listen. I don't 1288 01:17:50,880 --> 01:17:56,200 Speaker 1: know what this. That's what they call it. Tell me 1289 01:17:56,320 --> 01:18:00,040 Speaker 1: and I don't want them to get They ensured like 1290 01:18:00,160 --> 01:18:02,840 Speaker 1: you got. You had to be you had to be tough. 1291 01:18:03,000 --> 01:18:06,679 Speaker 1: You had to be just born of something different to survive. 1292 01:18:07,240 --> 01:18:10,920 Speaker 1: We want people like remember they said Maddie Moore shoes 1293 01:18:10,920 --> 01:18:14,760 Speaker 1: at though tennis ball, that she is. We they don't know. 1294 01:18:15,040 --> 01:18:17,519 Speaker 1: You're like the lost member of the Clark sisters. I 1295 01:18:17,760 --> 01:18:19,680 Speaker 1: think I was. I think I was the cat. I 1296 01:18:19,760 --> 01:18:28,640 Speaker 1: was like like Derren Clark. I used to think, and 1297 01:18:28,720 --> 01:18:32,160 Speaker 1: that leads to a song that a lot of people 1298 01:18:32,240 --> 01:18:37,880 Speaker 1: don't know about. Listen. Listen, there's a song called Endowed 1299 01:18:37,960 --> 01:18:45,920 Speaker 1: Me with You, Faith Evans, Fantasia Coco who song It 1300 01:18:46,080 --> 01:18:49,040 Speaker 1: is okay like that a lot of people don't know, 1301 01:18:49,200 --> 01:18:55,320 Speaker 1: but it's like the Clark Sisters to me. When I 1302 01:18:55,400 --> 01:18:57,719 Speaker 1: heard that record, I was like, Oh, this is okay. 1303 01:18:57,760 --> 01:19:01,160 Speaker 1: Whoever decided we're gonna call these It was a Cocoa 1304 01:19:01,240 --> 01:19:02,840 Speaker 1: that was like, these are the these are the voices 1305 01:19:02,880 --> 01:19:04,439 Speaker 1: that I'm calling. I know when I got to call 1306 01:19:04,560 --> 01:19:09,519 Speaker 1: Phil Thornton. He called me. He was like, hey, um, 1307 01:19:10,120 --> 01:19:12,479 Speaker 1: we're doing this record. So I know they had asked 1308 01:19:12,520 --> 01:19:14,640 Speaker 1: other producers to do it, but I don't know if 1309 01:19:14,680 --> 01:19:17,280 Speaker 1: people saw the vision. So he was like, hey, can 1310 01:19:17,320 --> 01:19:19,680 Speaker 1: you flyt up? When was? It was a Tennessee web 1311 01:19:19,920 --> 01:19:22,679 Speaker 1: A sap Ward produced it. So I sang the whole 1312 01:19:22,760 --> 01:19:25,400 Speaker 1: record in his entirety, and then he bought Faith in 1313 01:19:25,520 --> 01:19:30,240 Speaker 1: and everybody did their separate parts. So the original reference 1314 01:19:31,560 --> 01:19:35,000 Speaker 1: was me, and I was just like because I always 1315 01:19:35,040 --> 01:19:37,840 Speaker 1: thought I was a clerk, So Coco wanted me on 1316 01:19:37,880 --> 01:19:40,720 Speaker 1: the record. I was just like, yo, I called Fantasia, 1317 01:19:40,840 --> 01:19:42,360 Speaker 1: you know you gotta get on this jump. So then 1318 01:19:42,400 --> 01:19:45,360 Speaker 1: it just became an effect. I know Phil was working 1319 01:19:45,439 --> 01:19:47,519 Speaker 1: with Faith at the time, so he called her and 1320 01:19:47,600 --> 01:19:49,720 Speaker 1: but I called fantag like, you need to get on this. 1321 01:19:51,040 --> 01:19:54,360 Speaker 1: Coco is my first placement, really, my first placement in 1322 01:19:54,360 --> 01:19:56,840 Speaker 1: the music business as a songwriter. A song called so 1323 01:19:56,960 --> 01:19:59,639 Speaker 1: Hard to Say Goodbye that I wrote for the Hot 1324 01:19:59,680 --> 01:20:04,040 Speaker 1: Coco album. It's my first placement as a songwriter ever. 1325 01:20:04,280 --> 01:20:07,000 Speaker 1: What's crazy is Coco come from We all from church 1326 01:20:07,479 --> 01:20:09,680 Speaker 1: and she grew up in the Bronx. I've never met 1327 01:20:09,720 --> 01:20:13,360 Speaker 1: her though, really, which makes it even crazy. Never met 1328 01:20:14,400 --> 01:20:17,479 Speaker 1: to this day, I never met Cocoa. She's the coolest, 1329 01:20:17,560 --> 01:20:21,599 Speaker 1: Like you know what I am. I'll be in bad 1330 01:20:21,800 --> 01:20:29,280 Speaker 1: be onside, like, oh man, she's the coolest. She gonna 1331 01:20:29,320 --> 01:20:30,720 Speaker 1: she's gonna hear this and she's gonna be like, Yo, 1332 01:20:30,800 --> 01:20:34,479 Speaker 1: that's crazy and yeah, and I got to shoot, that's 1333 01:20:34,520 --> 01:20:37,200 Speaker 1: like so crazy. Yeah. I love that record though, and 1334 01:20:37,240 --> 01:20:39,320 Speaker 1: that's why that's why I mentioned it. And for me 1335 01:20:39,600 --> 01:20:42,280 Speaker 1: it was it was like listening to the Clark sisters, 1336 01:20:42,680 --> 01:20:46,720 Speaker 1: like y'all voices together special but see asap like he 1337 01:20:46,880 --> 01:20:49,360 Speaker 1: wasn't playing and I was scared. When I'm gonna tell 1338 01:20:49,400 --> 01:20:51,680 Speaker 1: you one another crazy thing is. I was just like, 1339 01:20:51,880 --> 01:20:54,320 Speaker 1: I was scared to sing it because I knew that 1340 01:20:54,400 --> 01:20:57,400 Speaker 1: ASP used to play for Kim Barell, and I was like, listen, 1341 01:20:57,400 --> 01:20:59,040 Speaker 1: I'm doing this. I don't see like, no, Kim Brew 1342 01:20:59,240 --> 01:21:02,840 Speaker 1: a singer. No. And I went outside and I was 1343 01:21:02,920 --> 01:21:05,080 Speaker 1: like smoking weed that session to singing and down me 1344 01:21:05,479 --> 01:21:08,600 Speaker 1: because I was nervouing, you know what I was like, 1345 01:21:08,680 --> 01:21:13,599 Speaker 1: And it was the weed. It calmed me. I don't 1346 01:21:13,640 --> 01:21:15,479 Speaker 1: even know. I think my assistant at the time. I 1347 01:21:15,600 --> 01:21:17,840 Speaker 1: was like, where how do we get weed from Baltimore 1348 01:21:17,880 --> 01:21:20,680 Speaker 1: to whoever we was? But it calmed me and I 1349 01:21:20,800 --> 01:21:22,479 Speaker 1: was able to do I was like, listen, I can't 1350 01:21:22,520 --> 01:21:24,280 Speaker 1: do none of that stuff. Kimbarell DoD He's like, you 1351 01:21:24,320 --> 01:21:26,320 Speaker 1: don't have to. I want you to do what you 1352 01:21:26,439 --> 01:21:31,000 Speaker 1: did and the rest is history. So it's like, yeah, 1353 01:21:31,320 --> 01:21:37,439 Speaker 1: if anybody's watching this, go listen to that. Please go 1354 01:21:37,680 --> 01:21:42,280 Speaker 1: listen to that record, because these women are going crazy 1355 01:21:42,600 --> 01:21:51,040 Speaker 1: on that record. Y'all are cooking Lina's bro Coco, Faith Evans, Fantasia, 1356 01:21:51,640 --> 01:21:59,840 Speaker 1: and Sassy Sea. Little wisdom I would give you good 1357 01:22:01,360 --> 01:22:04,160 Speaker 1: was sexy. It wasn't a little wisdom, it was your wisdom. 1358 01:22:05,320 --> 01:22:10,320 Speaker 1: A little moment okay, I'm confusing a young widow sassy 1359 01:22:10,920 --> 01:22:15,600 Speaker 1: ce so so man So, first of all, thank you 1360 01:22:15,720 --> 01:22:20,479 Speaker 1: for your energy at my album released in Miami. Um, 1361 01:22:21,840 --> 01:22:23,960 Speaker 1: that was just crazy. It's like that little bos about 1362 01:22:23,960 --> 01:22:28,960 Speaker 1: to climb over. That's the climb. You gotta say, get it. 1363 01:22:31,600 --> 01:22:36,040 Speaker 1: She probably remember I don't show me nothing, something like 1364 01:22:36,080 --> 01:22:37,960 Speaker 1: you're gonna pull a ham strength if you jumped this. 1365 01:22:38,240 --> 01:22:40,519 Speaker 1: I don't know what's crazy. After like three days he 1366 01:22:40,640 --> 01:22:43,360 Speaker 1: was like you was like, I was like, you can't hear. 1367 01:22:43,439 --> 01:22:46,160 Speaker 1: You're left here, Yeah, you can't hear? Said, nope, you 1368 01:22:46,320 --> 01:22:52,000 Speaker 1: can't hear. I think she said, who told you that? 1369 01:22:52,400 --> 01:22:55,160 Speaker 1: I said more, I can't, but who said it? I said, 1370 01:22:55,600 --> 01:22:59,800 Speaker 1: I can't hear? But when were you told this? I can't. 1371 01:23:00,320 --> 01:23:09,200 Speaker 1: I'm telling you right, I don't believe you. Jesus ain't 1372 01:23:09,240 --> 01:23:13,479 Speaker 1: the way he's singing like that and he can't hear. No, 1373 01:23:13,640 --> 01:23:15,479 Speaker 1: let me tell you this. This is a real storm 1374 01:23:15,560 --> 01:23:20,360 Speaker 1: right here. You're ready go deep. I pay his attention. Okay, 1375 01:23:20,840 --> 01:23:24,080 Speaker 1: I watched you on stage. You're saying from monitors, people 1376 01:23:24,120 --> 01:23:25,760 Speaker 1: don't do that. They're putting them things in that and 1377 01:23:25,800 --> 01:23:28,840 Speaker 1: them things make me like them. I'm like, I can't 1378 01:23:28,880 --> 01:23:32,040 Speaker 1: do that you sing from monitors, So if you can't, 1379 01:23:33,280 --> 01:23:37,160 Speaker 1: that's unheard of. I just I just I made the adjustment. 1380 01:23:37,240 --> 01:23:41,479 Speaker 1: I trained myself to be able to process all of 1381 01:23:41,560 --> 01:23:44,080 Speaker 1: it in my one ear. So the problem with me 1382 01:23:44,400 --> 01:23:48,280 Speaker 1: and inn ears is that if there are no crowd mix, 1383 01:23:48,800 --> 01:23:53,799 Speaker 1: I do disconnected. So yeah, if we have crowd mix, 1384 01:23:54,280 --> 01:23:57,760 Speaker 1: then I'm with it because I I kind of I 1385 01:23:57,880 --> 01:24:00,800 Speaker 1: thrive off of, you know, crowd in the action. If 1386 01:24:00,800 --> 01:24:02,439 Speaker 1: I hear something over here, I want to respond to it. 1387 01:24:02,439 --> 01:24:03,640 Speaker 1: If I hear something over here or you know what 1388 01:24:03,640 --> 01:24:05,560 Speaker 1: I'm saying, like I want to get into all of 1389 01:24:05,600 --> 01:24:07,840 Speaker 1: these don't want your singing. I just don't want to 1390 01:24:08,280 --> 01:24:11,360 Speaker 1: run through the motions of my show like I want 1391 01:24:11,400 --> 01:24:13,080 Speaker 1: to be. I want to be involved with the people, 1392 01:24:13,080 --> 01:24:15,960 Speaker 1: So I can't sartist over are just trying to get 1393 01:24:15,960 --> 01:24:17,880 Speaker 1: in and get hello, how many song to sing? A 1394 01:24:17,920 --> 01:24:21,880 Speaker 1: piece of a song? And you'd be like, yeah, I mean, 1395 01:24:21,960 --> 01:24:26,000 Speaker 1: I don't I understand people go through things. But one 1396 01:24:26,040 --> 01:24:29,800 Speaker 1: thing I respect about you is that it was like 1397 01:24:29,880 --> 01:24:33,000 Speaker 1: a hundred fifty degrees out there that day, and I 1398 01:24:33,120 --> 01:24:35,240 Speaker 1: was like, let me know when he got two songs left, 1399 01:24:35,280 --> 01:24:37,599 Speaker 1: because this letout is gonna be crazy. And so they 1400 01:24:37,640 --> 01:24:40,160 Speaker 1: tell me. So I walked now slow because I'm like, no, 1401 01:24:40,439 --> 01:24:42,599 Speaker 1: I want to hear these songs because once I get 1402 01:24:42,640 --> 01:24:44,560 Speaker 1: in my bag, I'm not gonna remember nothing. But I 1403 01:24:44,680 --> 01:24:47,880 Speaker 1: was just like, you was singing in the heat, which 1404 01:24:48,000 --> 01:24:51,360 Speaker 1: humidity usually take people through out, like I'm not trying 1405 01:24:51,360 --> 01:24:58,360 Speaker 1: to really yeah, like but you okay? And I'm like really, 1406 01:24:58,400 --> 01:25:01,600 Speaker 1: not trying to disrespect nobody, but it's just like, I'm like, 1407 01:25:02,160 --> 01:25:05,439 Speaker 1: I've never seen you have an off day, but I've 1408 01:25:05,479 --> 01:25:07,640 Speaker 1: seen people I literally saw on the internet the other week. 1409 01:25:07,720 --> 01:25:09,920 Speaker 1: They was like somebody sang three songs and it was like, 1410 01:25:09,960 --> 01:25:12,320 Speaker 1: you know what I'm hors you don't get you a 1411 01:25:12,360 --> 01:25:16,559 Speaker 1: goddamn and Hella and steam or pre recording vocals. Don't 1412 01:25:16,640 --> 01:25:18,720 Speaker 1: you have these people fly out here and talk about you. 1413 01:25:20,640 --> 01:25:25,240 Speaker 1: I was gonna cancel that. Really, I had been I 1414 01:25:25,320 --> 01:25:29,840 Speaker 1: had been singing, going crazy, doing promo everything for weeks 1415 01:25:30,040 --> 01:25:32,880 Speaker 1: and my voice was shot. I felt like I have 1416 01:25:33,000 --> 01:25:35,200 Speaker 1: none left, man, I might have to end up canceling 1417 01:25:35,360 --> 01:25:38,519 Speaker 1: canceling open. And he was like, I mean, if you're tired, man, 1418 01:25:38,560 --> 01:25:39,880 Speaker 1: if you can't do it, you can't do it. And 1419 01:25:39,960 --> 01:25:42,160 Speaker 1: I was like, I'm gonna just see how I feel, 1420 01:25:42,840 --> 01:25:46,040 Speaker 1: you know, once I get there and so you know, 1421 01:25:46,280 --> 01:25:48,040 Speaker 1: I just got chilled a little bit. I had a 1422 01:25:48,040 --> 01:25:52,080 Speaker 1: little throat coot, but um um the red bull. I 1423 01:25:52,160 --> 01:25:53,680 Speaker 1: was like, let me see where the red bull get me? 1424 01:25:53,680 --> 01:25:57,920 Speaker 1: Because the red bully. And then I had a little 1425 01:25:58,000 --> 01:26:00,599 Speaker 1: halls and anybody got a halls was I had halls 1426 01:26:00,680 --> 01:26:03,320 Speaker 1: on me? Give me the halls. I was like, me, me, me, me, 1427 01:26:03,640 --> 01:26:13,479 Speaker 1: me me. I got a little I got a little bit. Yeah, 1428 01:26:14,600 --> 01:26:16,960 Speaker 1: just turned that car and it started up a little bit. 1429 01:26:16,960 --> 01:26:19,000 Speaker 1: I was like, I got a little left. I was like, 1430 01:26:19,120 --> 01:26:20,439 Speaker 1: let's go do it. You know what I'm saying. And 1431 01:26:20,840 --> 01:26:24,200 Speaker 1: like for me, like you know, I sing hard. You 1432 01:26:24,200 --> 01:26:27,720 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, so pushing through is this is 1433 01:26:27,760 --> 01:26:31,200 Speaker 1: nothing new to me. You know what I'm saying. He's 1434 01:26:31,200 --> 01:26:34,600 Speaker 1: also a great adjuster exactly, so you'll you'll know, like 1435 01:26:34,760 --> 01:26:38,360 Speaker 1: jail no, because he knows how high I can sing. Yeah, 1436 01:26:38,600 --> 01:26:41,120 Speaker 1: and when I'm not when I'm not here and I'm 1437 01:26:41,160 --> 01:26:43,320 Speaker 1: down here in this little roles, you will never find 1438 01:26:46,840 --> 01:26:48,960 Speaker 1: like when I'm down there here like this, yeah just 1439 01:26:49,040 --> 01:26:50,519 Speaker 1: look cooked. And I was like, yeah, I was cool. 1440 01:26:53,080 --> 01:26:57,639 Speaker 1: I know, do y'all like this? This is the podcast 1441 01:26:57,760 --> 01:27:11,479 Speaker 1: is lit but energy like yeast, Like I want to 1442 01:27:11,520 --> 01:27:15,120 Speaker 1: see that though, like because that's a vibe. That's a vibe. 1443 01:27:15,120 --> 01:27:17,240 Speaker 1: But I'm just like sometimes I like, I'm all for 1444 01:27:17,520 --> 01:27:19,960 Speaker 1: giving people their flowers while they could smell them, and 1445 01:27:20,040 --> 01:27:22,200 Speaker 1: I'm always a flower gifing. I like, hey, no, I'll 1446 01:27:22,240 --> 01:27:24,160 Speaker 1: never give me mine. I don't look for people to 1447 01:27:24,200 --> 01:27:27,240 Speaker 1: get exalted anymore like the real ones. So you saying 1448 01:27:27,320 --> 01:27:30,479 Speaker 1: to me like you've been able to rock tempos like, 1449 01:27:31,240 --> 01:27:33,400 Speaker 1: and I'll just be like, that's a flower and I 1450 01:27:33,880 --> 01:27:37,080 Speaker 1: always hold onto that forever. But to see you like, 1451 01:27:37,479 --> 01:27:39,519 Speaker 1: I'm like, when you just imagine when you want to 1452 01:27:39,600 --> 01:27:41,800 Speaker 1: hunt it, child, I probably would have. I haven't been 1453 01:27:41,840 --> 01:27:46,760 Speaker 1: on a hunt in a long time, really, now, let 1454 01:27:46,840 --> 01:27:48,599 Speaker 1: me tell you this. And I was wondering, like when 1455 01:27:48,640 --> 01:27:50,320 Speaker 1: I was seeing all the stuff on social media, was like, 1456 01:27:50,400 --> 01:27:53,000 Speaker 1: I like the way the strategically he probably recorded this 1457 01:27:53,080 --> 01:27:56,720 Speaker 1: week before, Like you was doing shows, you was in Baltimore, 1458 01:27:56,920 --> 01:28:03,360 Speaker 1: you was everywhere. Then I saw you singing Come with Jamie. 1459 01:28:03,479 --> 01:28:06,040 Speaker 1: Yeah that was a long time ago. Yeah, that was 1460 01:28:06,040 --> 01:28:07,960 Speaker 1: a long time ago. But the fact that I was 1461 01:28:08,080 --> 01:28:11,840 Speaker 1: just like you were everywhere and listen some of it 1462 01:28:12,080 --> 01:28:16,040 Speaker 1: was us, you know, putting things together in pieces and assets, 1463 01:28:16,080 --> 01:28:18,840 Speaker 1: and some of it was just the universe like just 1464 01:28:19,040 --> 01:28:21,439 Speaker 1: like it's sprinkled. It's time to you know, put us 1465 01:28:21,640 --> 01:28:24,640 Speaker 1: drop some tank content. Drop the tank content. Um. And 1466 01:28:24,960 --> 01:28:26,960 Speaker 1: so I'm just I'm just thankful to the universe and 1467 01:28:27,000 --> 01:28:30,080 Speaker 1: the people who just lended that to us. Um. So 1468 01:28:30,200 --> 01:28:34,240 Speaker 1: we were just on the show singing, you know, singing good. 1469 01:28:34,520 --> 01:28:37,960 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Um, still having it very 1470 01:28:38,040 --> 01:28:42,719 Speaker 1: tapped into our our youthful presence and our youthful gifts. Okay, 1471 01:28:42,760 --> 01:28:48,200 Speaker 1: we're still here. What is what is little more doing 1472 01:28:49,160 --> 01:28:51,800 Speaker 1: now and moving forward? What is the plan? What is 1473 01:28:51,840 --> 01:28:56,200 Speaker 1: it called? Honestly, I'm back to the sacrificial lamb. I'm 1474 01:28:56,800 --> 01:28:59,600 Speaker 1: extending my time. So my son is thirteen, that was 1475 01:28:59,640 --> 01:29:02,560 Speaker 1: sing these niggas under a bus, but he wants to 1476 01:29:02,600 --> 01:29:04,640 Speaker 1: be a rapper because he said nobody sings anymore and 1477 01:29:04,680 --> 01:29:06,519 Speaker 1: they keep on saying R and B is dead, but 1478 01:29:06,680 --> 01:29:12,639 Speaker 1: it's not. It's not. I'm just like, no, you should 1479 01:29:12,680 --> 01:29:17,320 Speaker 1: sing your last longer. So he'd rather be I didn't 1480 01:29:17,360 --> 01:29:20,680 Speaker 1: do that, and I was like, I told him that 1481 01:29:21,120 --> 01:29:23,120 Speaker 1: he doesn't listen to me. So I told him to 1482 01:29:23,200 --> 01:29:26,559 Speaker 1: remake a specific song because I'm just like he came 1483 01:29:26,560 --> 01:29:29,120 Speaker 1: out the womb singing. One time he cried in church 1484 01:29:29,200 --> 01:29:31,200 Speaker 1: and Kimberrells there. She was like, whose baby is that? 1485 01:29:31,320 --> 01:29:33,519 Speaker 1: They cried on key? And I raised my head. She said, 1486 01:29:33,520 --> 01:29:39,439 Speaker 1: that would be your kid. You know what that means? 1487 01:29:39,840 --> 01:29:42,360 Speaker 1: He cried a perfect pitch, so what the organ was played? 1488 01:29:42,720 --> 01:29:44,400 Speaker 1: He cried and I was just like, we used to 1489 01:29:44,439 --> 01:29:46,479 Speaker 1: call him fussy just because he used to cross so much. 1490 01:29:47,040 --> 01:29:50,960 Speaker 1: But he whined and it gave like a yes, and 1491 01:29:51,040 --> 01:29:52,400 Speaker 1: I was like, how did they hear that? I was 1492 01:29:52,479 --> 01:29:54,200 Speaker 1: so embarrassed. I was like, why will you do this 1493 01:29:54,280 --> 01:29:57,680 Speaker 1: when kim Morella's on stay? But I get it, and 1494 01:29:57,760 --> 01:30:02,439 Speaker 1: I'm like, listen, son, under stand it's this generation z. 1495 01:30:03,120 --> 01:30:07,200 Speaker 1: They're different. They're different. But what I've learned then I 1496 01:30:07,320 --> 01:30:11,240 Speaker 1: can place in him and I can sacrifice myself a 1497 01:30:11,320 --> 01:30:12,760 Speaker 1: little bit more like I'm gonna go out here and 1498 01:30:12,800 --> 01:30:15,479 Speaker 1: saying these old that Saul child. But so far people 1499 01:30:15,520 --> 01:30:17,920 Speaker 1: have been loving and liking it. And I've been the 1500 01:30:18,000 --> 01:30:23,719 Speaker 1: bag been going jam, yeah, you got jam jams jams, 1501 01:30:23,920 --> 01:30:26,559 Speaker 1: and I got and I got a question actually to okay, 1502 01:30:26,680 --> 01:30:34,280 Speaker 1: I got to was forever the answer to jagged edges. 1503 01:30:34,400 --> 01:30:38,000 Speaker 1: Let's get me. One know what's crazy? Did Brian cot 1504 01:30:38,040 --> 01:30:42,759 Speaker 1: St Let's get married? Yes, Yes, I'm pretty sure it's crazy. 1505 01:30:43,680 --> 01:30:47,120 Speaker 1: I was recording. I was he did you shot him 1506 01:30:47,160 --> 01:30:48,880 Speaker 1: out in the beginning of the song becos One know 1507 01:30:48,920 --> 01:30:51,760 Speaker 1: what's crazy is I didn't even hear when I was 1508 01:30:51,920 --> 01:30:54,160 Speaker 1: That's when I was recording Uh Meet the Girl, Let's 1509 01:30:54,200 --> 01:30:56,240 Speaker 1: do album mind Job was not much pregnant, so I 1510 01:30:56,320 --> 01:30:59,360 Speaker 1: sat down the whole session. Beacox came to the studio. 1511 01:30:59,439 --> 01:31:00,920 Speaker 1: He was like, I song for y'all want you to 1512 01:31:01,000 --> 01:31:03,360 Speaker 1: listen to? He might have would I might have to 1513 01:31:03,400 --> 01:31:04,800 Speaker 1: give it to somebody else. He was like, if you 1514 01:31:04,840 --> 01:31:06,920 Speaker 1: don't feel As soon as I heard but the piano 1515 01:31:06,960 --> 01:31:08,479 Speaker 1: had been I was like, I wanted. He was like, 1516 01:31:09,040 --> 01:31:10,760 Speaker 1: are you sure I want to record it right now? 1517 01:31:11,600 --> 01:31:13,840 Speaker 1: I want to sat down then write nothing down and 1518 01:31:14,439 --> 01:31:16,720 Speaker 1: none of those words wrong baby and my the point 1519 01:31:16,760 --> 01:31:19,240 Speaker 1: in my life when I'm tired of playing games, I'm 1520 01:31:19,280 --> 01:31:21,160 Speaker 1: ready to settle down. The only part that I've ready 1521 01:31:21,240 --> 01:31:23,920 Speaker 1: bio like when you listen to the verses, none of 1522 01:31:23,960 --> 01:31:26,519 Speaker 1: the ship rome. But I think I was in such 1523 01:31:26,560 --> 01:31:28,599 Speaker 1: a space my first child was about to be born. 1524 01:31:28,800 --> 01:31:33,400 Speaker 1: I was hyped. Yeah, anytime I hear piano? You know 1525 01:31:33,439 --> 01:31:36,960 Speaker 1: you answer my question? Right? What's you're saying? I know, 1526 01:31:37,080 --> 01:31:38,760 Speaker 1: I want to listen to no music? My bad? I 1527 01:31:38,880 --> 01:31:42,120 Speaker 1: was recording my how so it's not the answer to it. Wait, 1528 01:31:42,200 --> 01:31:44,000 Speaker 1: what's the you asked me? You said, did I hear 1529 01:31:44,080 --> 01:31:47,040 Speaker 1: jagging a song? No? No? I said no, not even that. Everybody, 1530 01:31:47,520 --> 01:31:52,400 Speaker 1: what you're saying, let's saying it wasn't the answer to that. 1531 01:31:52,439 --> 01:31:54,240 Speaker 1: I'm saying was that the I was asking? Was that 1532 01:31:54,280 --> 01:31:59,960 Speaker 1: the answered because y'all also both say, you know, well, 1533 01:32:00,040 --> 01:32:06,800 Speaker 1: what was crazy? Was Nigga saying? When I heard listen 1534 01:32:06,960 --> 01:32:09,160 Speaker 1: when I heard that lyric? I said, When I heard 1535 01:32:09,240 --> 01:32:12,280 Speaker 1: Let's get I said, that's a horrible lyric, I said, 1536 01:32:12,360 --> 01:32:16,200 Speaker 1: but but it's a very weird. What's all that? What 1537 01:32:16,439 --> 01:32:18,880 Speaker 1: it is came out? I think There's Mother came out 1538 01:32:19,040 --> 01:32:22,640 Speaker 1: like ninety nine or two. Yeah, yeah, it was a 1539 01:32:22,880 --> 01:32:25,080 Speaker 1: very real lyric. We ain't getting no younger, so we 1540 01:32:25,200 --> 01:32:27,800 Speaker 1: might as well do it, like yeah, and I was 1541 01:32:27,840 --> 01:32:30,680 Speaker 1: like getting no younger, babe, And I was like, I 1542 01:32:30,760 --> 01:32:33,840 Speaker 1: ain't going nowhere. You ain't gonnawhere? Like did you write 1543 01:32:33,880 --> 01:32:35,439 Speaker 1: no my issues? And you know, I look at what 1544 01:32:35,520 --> 01:32:38,639 Speaker 1: I'm a wig what's up? You know? I look, if 1545 01:32:38,680 --> 01:32:46,960 Speaker 1: a nigga married you without your wig's ups it's all 1546 01:32:47,000 --> 01:32:52,600 Speaker 1: the way I might run if that he loved you. 1547 01:32:55,320 --> 01:32:57,719 Speaker 1: Waking up with the goose more, waking over that Florida. 1548 01:32:58,600 --> 01:33:00,479 Speaker 1: That's you. That's how you you all? Right Now, I 1549 01:33:00,560 --> 01:33:12,640 Speaker 1: got I got you. I'm I'm with But when you 1550 01:33:12,760 --> 01:33:14,200 Speaker 1: have like when you take your wig off and put 1551 01:33:14,240 --> 01:33:15,720 Speaker 1: on a dresser and then you got to meet meal, 1552 01:33:15,800 --> 01:33:19,120 Speaker 1: braid's going big if he's like, I mean there like 1553 01:33:19,240 --> 01:33:22,400 Speaker 1: a um a mannequin head that you put it on 1554 01:33:22,520 --> 01:33:24,360 Speaker 1: and you just put it on the dresser. Now you 1555 01:33:24,479 --> 01:33:25,840 Speaker 1: just take it off, put it on a dresser and 1556 01:33:26,000 --> 01:33:29,160 Speaker 1: you just be like, don't mess with my wig, because 1557 01:33:29,960 --> 01:33:32,080 Speaker 1: back then was like yeah, like a hunter nadalm jomp 1558 01:33:32,160 --> 01:33:34,960 Speaker 1: be like a hundred dolt. That's why did you yo? 1559 01:33:35,080 --> 01:33:38,320 Speaker 1: I'll be reading memes the girl. This girl really acts. 1560 01:33:38,360 --> 01:33:40,400 Speaker 1: She said, So with the ten thousand for pseudo loans, 1561 01:33:40,400 --> 01:33:42,320 Speaker 1: are they't giving us the cash or is they gonna 1562 01:33:42,320 --> 01:33:44,240 Speaker 1: take it off the balance? Because I want the ten 1563 01:33:44,280 --> 01:33:49,200 Speaker 1: thousand can buy me. That's where it's at right now. 1564 01:33:50,640 --> 01:33:53,559 Speaker 1: That's why hair companies are making so much money. Who 1565 01:33:53,600 --> 01:33:56,439 Speaker 1: would have thought? Who would have thunk. They just they 1566 01:33:56,520 --> 01:33:59,439 Speaker 1: just haven't figured out the man wig just yet. Yeah, 1567 01:33:59,680 --> 01:34:02,760 Speaker 1: they have they figured it out. They have not. It's 1568 01:34:02,800 --> 01:34:04,920 Speaker 1: like some people that got but it's just like, no, 1569 01:34:05,200 --> 01:34:09,519 Speaker 1: that's not right about the wig, the full lace front 1570 01:34:09,560 --> 01:34:12,960 Speaker 1: shape up. Yeah, because didn't like I saw one. I 1571 01:34:13,040 --> 01:34:18,360 Speaker 1: saw one. I've been saying, they don't. They don't call 1572 01:34:18,400 --> 01:34:20,040 Speaker 1: the man. Remember they used to be two pages to 1573 01:34:20,080 --> 01:34:23,320 Speaker 1: be like that many they glued on and then they 1574 01:34:23,439 --> 01:34:25,840 Speaker 1: lying him. But then after they get hot and that 1575 01:34:25,960 --> 01:34:33,720 Speaker 1: they start moving. You ain't getting little younger. I saw 1576 01:34:33,800 --> 01:34:41,559 Speaker 1: him without his wig on, so without my My second 1577 01:34:41,640 --> 01:34:44,479 Speaker 1: question is I actually like keep sweat so on, making 1578 01:34:44,560 --> 01:34:47,280 Speaker 1: last forever. That's well, since we want to shout out 1579 01:34:47,320 --> 01:34:51,040 Speaker 1: to the sweat, Yeah, shout out to this I worked with. 1580 01:34:52,960 --> 01:34:55,880 Speaker 1: He worked with war going about this house and I remember, 1581 01:34:55,880 --> 01:34:59,960 Speaker 1: but he used to live at Alpharetta. They was cooking food. 1582 01:35:00,040 --> 01:35:06,320 Speaker 1: He was so well, no he can't, so goddamn twizzle. 1583 01:35:09,439 --> 01:35:11,800 Speaker 1: I worked WICKI so I did. I'll trade a million bucks. 1584 01:35:12,680 --> 01:35:17,240 Speaker 1: And he was in Alpharetta, Georgia. Alpharetta closes down at sundown. 1585 01:35:18,080 --> 01:35:21,760 Speaker 1: So like I was like, damn, somebody cooking. I'm think 1586 01:35:21,760 --> 01:35:23,680 Speaker 1: they're gonna bring us a plate. He're like, no, I'm 1587 01:35:23,680 --> 01:35:25,000 Speaker 1: about to go up he and eating. I gotta go 1588 01:35:25,120 --> 01:35:28,160 Speaker 1: do some running around some twig It was some twizzlers, 1589 01:35:30,920 --> 01:35:35,800 Speaker 1: go eat and he left. There was no door dash back. 1590 01:35:36,800 --> 01:35:40,360 Speaker 1: That was like years old, years ago. So I was 1591 01:35:40,439 --> 01:35:42,800 Speaker 1: just like dag. But when I say a low key 1592 01:35:42,840 --> 01:35:45,599 Speaker 1: s so I remember the label. They was like make 1593 01:35:45,760 --> 01:35:48,800 Speaker 1: um keeps saying these background He said, Man, tell them 1594 01:35:48,920 --> 01:35:50,800 Speaker 1: kiss my ass. They can't tell me what to do. 1595 01:35:51,800 --> 01:35:53,519 Speaker 1: And I'm gonna just do one track of my boy's 1596 01:35:53,560 --> 01:36:00,640 Speaker 1: gonna cut right through right. You've seen the cut right there, 1597 01:36:00,720 --> 01:36:02,280 Speaker 1: then you do the rest. I ain't doing all that. 1598 01:36:02,360 --> 01:36:05,600 Speaker 1: Ship back, ye, I don't do all that. Yeah, tells 1599 01:36:05,640 --> 01:36:08,720 Speaker 1: ain't doing yes, So you focus on your son right now. 1600 01:36:08,800 --> 01:36:11,680 Speaker 1: You're focused on the future on my son. Like are 1601 01:36:11,720 --> 01:36:16,760 Speaker 1: you gonna do anymore? Are you doing anymore? People want? 1602 01:36:16,800 --> 01:36:19,360 Speaker 1: I actually have some songs coming, like some features with 1603 01:36:19,479 --> 01:36:21,680 Speaker 1: some What's crazy is it's like a lot of the 1604 01:36:21,880 --> 01:36:24,559 Speaker 1: artists that are young, so I'm doing some things with them, 1605 01:36:24,600 --> 01:36:26,280 Speaker 1: and then I have some songs that's in the tuck, 1606 01:36:26,680 --> 01:36:28,760 Speaker 1: like I got songs like Todd Dollars sign. I'm just like, 1607 01:36:28,840 --> 01:36:31,920 Speaker 1: how are we gonna put this out this right because 1608 01:36:31,920 --> 01:36:33,640 Speaker 1: I don't know him since he was a bank I 1609 01:36:33,800 --> 01:36:36,960 Speaker 1: know everybody says they were babies like fifteen years old 1610 01:36:37,000 --> 01:36:40,840 Speaker 1: playing that Jay Brown's wedding, So it's like we got 1611 01:36:40,840 --> 01:36:44,040 Speaker 1: this song because that's what goes like. So you know, 1612 01:36:45,120 --> 01:36:50,280 Speaker 1: I'm I understand music has changed, but for the for me, 1613 01:36:50,960 --> 01:36:53,400 Speaker 1: I used to think that not my sound was not childish, 1614 01:36:53,760 --> 01:36:57,720 Speaker 1: but I realized it translated it. It has translated to 1615 01:36:57,800 --> 01:36:59,720 Speaker 1: this generation. So when they're here, they'd be like, oh 1616 01:37:00,080 --> 01:37:03,360 Speaker 1: so I don't sound like old lady. No, I don't 1617 01:37:03,360 --> 01:37:05,280 Speaker 1: say like so when they be like, hey, Auntimo, like 1618 01:37:05,439 --> 01:37:07,760 Speaker 1: I get it. I respect that. Like are you cool 1619 01:37:07,800 --> 01:37:12,519 Speaker 1: with being called antimo? Yes, because there's a thing right 1620 01:37:13,439 --> 01:37:18,200 Speaker 1: amongst women, yeah, that they don't like being called auntie. 1621 01:37:18,800 --> 01:37:21,120 Speaker 1: I love it, you love it? Yeah, okay, little more 1622 01:37:21,200 --> 01:37:27,760 Speaker 1: loves now it's different. I'm cool with that. I didn't. 1623 01:37:27,800 --> 01:37:30,560 Speaker 1: I didn't want to be for a minute, I love it. 1624 01:37:30,800 --> 01:37:32,280 Speaker 1: I didn't want to be. I feel like it's like 1625 01:37:32,360 --> 01:37:37,120 Speaker 1: the leader again. It just seemed like I woke up 1626 01:37:37,160 --> 01:37:40,400 Speaker 1: one day and it was just it was just overwhelming 1627 01:37:40,439 --> 01:37:43,439 Speaker 1: amount of unc and O G. And I was like, 1628 01:37:43,640 --> 01:37:47,120 Speaker 1: has it happened that as I'm plucking the graves out 1629 01:37:47,160 --> 01:37:53,360 Speaker 1: of my beer and I'm like, it's happening to you. 1630 01:37:56,680 --> 01:37:58,120 Speaker 1: It was just like when you when you get that show. 1631 01:38:00,040 --> 01:38:14,439 Speaker 1: This is what they do. Y okay? So what age? What? Like? What? What? 1632 01:38:14,880 --> 01:38:16,720 Speaker 1: When is a good time? Because I always thought once 1633 01:38:16,760 --> 01:38:20,840 Speaker 1: you turn forty, like that's Auntie. I know there are 1634 01:38:20,880 --> 01:38:24,439 Speaker 1: people that don't call me women that just feel a 1635 01:38:24,520 --> 01:38:27,200 Speaker 1: way about that. I think it's a term of endearment, 1636 01:38:27,520 --> 01:38:29,479 Speaker 1: like what she is. When they'd be like, that's my bitch, 1637 01:38:29,520 --> 01:38:30,800 Speaker 1: and I'd be like, that's cool, but don't call me 1638 01:38:30,840 --> 01:38:32,920 Speaker 1: that no more like if you don't know me like that, 1639 01:38:33,160 --> 01:38:35,680 Speaker 1: you feel me be like yo, because we say that 1640 01:38:35,760 --> 01:38:37,800 Speaker 1: Baltimore has a term of endearment. There are certain things 1641 01:38:37,840 --> 01:38:39,920 Speaker 1: that we said. But when they'd be like auntiem or 1642 01:38:40,000 --> 01:38:41,880 Speaker 1: when I go to my to my son's all my 1643 01:38:41,920 --> 01:38:44,120 Speaker 1: son's football preak, just all the kids be like ah mo, 1644 01:38:44,520 --> 01:38:48,000 Speaker 1: And I love it because the aunt has always been 1645 01:38:48,080 --> 01:38:50,840 Speaker 1: the mom that wasn't your mom. You could go to 1646 01:38:50,920 --> 01:38:57,799 Speaker 1: your hunt you understand. Yeah, I know people that's Auntie 1647 01:38:58,280 --> 01:39:03,120 Speaker 1: like like they're the same, just they like section that's 1648 01:39:03,120 --> 01:39:05,600 Speaker 1: the hood. Yeah, that's the hood for you. Yeah, So 1649 01:39:08,080 --> 01:39:11,400 Speaker 1: that because the aunt bag then was like if he 1650 01:39:11,520 --> 01:39:13,720 Speaker 1: was an auntie, it was just like that mans that 1651 01:39:13,880 --> 01:39:16,920 Speaker 1: you was older. But now it's just like aunties grandmas 1652 01:39:17,400 --> 01:39:20,040 Speaker 1: and like we don't like I feel like auntie is 1653 01:39:20,120 --> 01:39:25,000 Speaker 1: the flies of all the things you can I ride 1654 01:39:25,040 --> 01:39:28,120 Speaker 1: in yourself. It's cool. I should watch my uncle get 1655 01:39:28,160 --> 01:39:31,200 Speaker 1: flying for all that fucking this rode he put his 1656 01:39:31,280 --> 01:39:34,040 Speaker 1: smell good. That smell good. Tell me how you know 1657 01:39:34,080 --> 01:39:35,599 Speaker 1: you gotta take care of the lady. You gotta open 1658 01:39:35,640 --> 01:39:37,800 Speaker 1: the door and make sure they got flowers and that. 1659 01:39:39,479 --> 01:39:41,719 Speaker 1: You know, I'm saying so like that, no more start 1660 01:39:42,320 --> 01:39:44,080 Speaker 1: Yeah I am. You know, I'm saying, shout out to 1661 01:39:44,120 --> 01:39:46,040 Speaker 1: the o G in the field and that's me. Yeah. 1662 01:39:47,000 --> 01:39:50,200 Speaker 1: You know. You know what's crazy is many people won't 1663 01:39:50,240 --> 01:39:51,960 Speaker 1: make it to for people to even care about them, 1664 01:39:53,400 --> 01:39:55,400 Speaker 1: Like look at the comments and be like that, oh 1665 01:39:55,479 --> 01:40:00,200 Speaker 1: there's bitch what they like? No people just I'm like, 1666 01:40:00,240 --> 01:40:03,160 Speaker 1: how do Instagram let this one go through? Something? The 1667 01:40:03,240 --> 01:40:05,559 Speaker 1: other day? Now, somebody was on the internet the other 1668 01:40:05,640 --> 01:40:07,320 Speaker 1: day was like I had sex was something something, And 1669 01:40:07,400 --> 01:40:09,479 Speaker 1: I was like cap all I said was cap. I 1670 01:40:09,600 --> 01:40:12,120 Speaker 1: was like, what story was? People like you too old 1671 01:40:12,120 --> 01:40:13,400 Speaker 1: to be talking at younger I was like, I just 1672 01:40:13,800 --> 01:40:16,040 Speaker 1: all I said, all I said was calp. I didn't 1673 01:40:16,040 --> 01:40:18,559 Speaker 1: say what part was cap. All I said was cap 1674 01:40:18,680 --> 01:40:21,400 Speaker 1: And y'all got y'all let it, y'all let that round, y'all. 1675 01:40:21,479 --> 01:40:26,120 Speaker 1: Luck y'all gave me too much power to yea, and 1676 01:40:26,280 --> 01:40:29,320 Speaker 1: my whole jot was bring I'm thinking this cash chap 1677 01:40:29,439 --> 01:40:35,120 Speaker 1: and this nigga a lie in peace. No with the ogs. 1678 01:40:35,120 --> 01:40:37,519 Speaker 1: We're not standing for the lot. It's a it's a 1679 01:40:37,600 --> 01:40:43,080 Speaker 1: it's an aspiration day. That mess R and B h R. 1680 01:40:43,520 --> 01:40:45,599 Speaker 1: You need some R and B information for me, Okay, 1681 01:40:48,000 --> 01:40:52,960 Speaker 1: you like you got like what kind of like what 1682 01:40:53,080 --> 01:40:55,120 Speaker 1: type of what type of airpo? Because you have to 1683 01:40:55,160 --> 01:41:06,320 Speaker 1: be because I started talking about okay, top five in 1684 01:41:06,400 --> 01:41:13,000 Speaker 1: the world or like dead are live? Top five R 1685 01:41:13,120 --> 01:41:23,240 Speaker 1: and B artists female female and knows it's yours. It ain't. 1686 01:41:23,280 --> 01:41:31,559 Speaker 1: Don't don't make it politically correct, yours. Whitney Houston m hm, whim. 1687 01:41:31,560 --> 01:41:35,559 Speaker 1: Try to think of chah. I don't gonna look through 1688 01:41:35,600 --> 01:41:37,360 Speaker 1: my phone. Who I'll be listening because I listened to 1689 01:41:38,120 --> 01:41:46,679 Speaker 1: the most weirdest nest. Oh God, Joe, Yeah that's one. Yeah, 1690 01:41:47,200 --> 01:41:52,240 Speaker 1: because that's that was a sound. Um, Who do let 1691 01:41:52,280 --> 01:41:55,559 Speaker 1: me try to think who I listened to Anita Baker. 1692 01:41:56,080 --> 01:42:01,160 Speaker 1: I was just like, you could clean That's why I 1693 01:42:01,200 --> 01:42:03,160 Speaker 1: know people house do you could clean your whole house? 1694 01:42:04,040 --> 01:42:08,000 Speaker 1: To Anitas for a champagne on us this time? No, Yeah, 1695 01:42:08,040 --> 01:42:09,600 Speaker 1: I was just you know, I just saw her. I 1696 01:42:09,720 --> 01:42:12,200 Speaker 1: just saw her. Yeah. That was like a slick. That 1697 01:42:12,320 --> 01:42:15,519 Speaker 1: was like a slick flick. What you know what Anita 1698 01:42:15,560 --> 01:42:17,080 Speaker 1: said to me? What did she say? She said to you? 1699 01:42:17,120 --> 01:42:19,400 Speaker 1: Because she never said anything to me? What did she say? 1700 01:42:19,560 --> 01:42:23,840 Speaker 1: Anita said? Anita said, you can't leave us? Now? Why 1701 01:42:23,960 --> 01:42:29,240 Speaker 1: was she saying? What does she say? She just looked 1702 01:42:29,280 --> 01:42:35,479 Speaker 1: at me. She's like, She's like, you can't leave us? Confirmation? 1703 01:42:37,200 --> 01:42:39,519 Speaker 1: How do you even know? I'm trying to get you 1704 01:42:39,600 --> 01:42:41,479 Speaker 1: not to retire. I'm trying to figure out how she 1705 01:42:41,600 --> 01:42:53,040 Speaker 1: even knows. Baker says, you can't retire Anita Anita in 1706 01:42:53,200 --> 01:42:56,960 Speaker 1: her own in her own stress dimension, her own realm. 1707 01:42:57,400 --> 01:43:00,320 Speaker 1: That way, you don't have to concern herself. And she 1708 01:43:00,360 --> 01:43:04,439 Speaker 1: said to Reill, can that retire? So okay? Neither, But 1709 01:43:04,560 --> 01:43:10,240 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, ship, Yeah, that hurt. That hurt me. You 1710 01:43:10,360 --> 01:43:17,439 Speaker 1: heard it here first. He's probably not retiring. Go ahead, Baker, 1711 01:43:18,000 --> 01:43:23,639 Speaker 1: you kill. I'm gonna tell you so y'all might not remember, 1712 01:43:23,800 --> 01:43:26,040 Speaker 1: but I listened to his songs and he's went on 1713 01:43:26,520 --> 01:43:30,680 Speaker 1: Kenny Green. We not what because a lot of people like, 1714 01:43:30,960 --> 01:43:34,040 Speaker 1: what do you remember? His song made you a crown 1715 01:43:34,200 --> 01:43:39,120 Speaker 1: and call y'all this version in the sky. So I'm 1716 01:43:39,439 --> 01:43:44,360 Speaker 1: I'm naming like people. Ken Come on, come on, give 1717 01:43:44,439 --> 01:43:46,320 Speaker 1: us some you know what, Give give him some Kenny 1718 01:43:46,360 --> 01:43:48,600 Speaker 1: Green history for the people who don't know Kenny Green. Like, 1719 01:43:49,880 --> 01:43:53,360 Speaker 1: Kenny Green was special, yea, he was ahead of time. 1720 01:43:53,360 --> 01:43:55,559 Speaker 1: And I remember what I meant in my cry because 1721 01:43:55,560 --> 01:43:57,320 Speaker 1: I was like, I don't think you realized how much 1722 01:43:57,320 --> 01:43:59,519 Speaker 1: you changed. And he was sitting there like this, like 1723 01:44:00,040 --> 01:44:04,720 Speaker 1: thought he was gonna be like like arrogant or he 1724 01:44:04,880 --> 01:44:06,519 Speaker 1: was just like he was like, I was like, wait, 1725 01:44:06,720 --> 01:44:12,240 Speaker 1: why did you back with? Nikenny Green was the amazing 1726 01:44:12,360 --> 01:44:15,840 Speaker 1: group intro he was he did all of them leave 1727 01:44:16,000 --> 01:44:22,800 Speaker 1: because he was inside let me monster like I'll keep you, 1728 01:44:23,280 --> 01:44:27,439 Speaker 1: I'll keep you satisfied the way his monster. Come on, 1729 01:44:27,600 --> 01:44:32,719 Speaker 1: Kenny Green. Okay, that's four. One more. That's four because 1730 01:44:32,720 --> 01:44:38,040 Speaker 1: it's more than five, but one, lady, two and two 1731 01:44:38,560 --> 01:44:45,639 Speaker 1: are two and five, so now that is one. It's 1732 01:44:45,680 --> 01:44:49,360 Speaker 1: really Casey and judea no no no, just one because divine, 1733 01:44:51,920 --> 01:44:56,760 Speaker 1: don't forget about and don't no no no, no no 1734 01:44:56,840 --> 01:45:04,240 Speaker 1: no and singing leave and singing lead? What's he's singing 1735 01:45:04,320 --> 01:45:08,800 Speaker 1: lead on multiple songs? And caseop thinking he's singing lead 1736 01:45:09,240 --> 01:45:12,400 Speaker 1: because they have a similar tone during the lead, not 1737 01:45:12,560 --> 01:45:18,760 Speaker 1: at singing lead because and it was more quartet. I 1738 01:45:18,920 --> 01:45:32,160 Speaker 1: get it, and uh five, I'm trying to think like 1739 01:45:33,040 --> 01:45:34,760 Speaker 1: who I will see and I would be yelling at 1740 01:45:34,840 --> 01:45:37,040 Speaker 1: so like I like when I get to say people's songs, Okay, 1741 01:45:37,080 --> 01:45:44,920 Speaker 1: I don't want to sing. You know, you got five kids. 1742 01:45:44,960 --> 01:45:47,880 Speaker 1: You need to have a top five. These kids gotta 1743 01:45:47,880 --> 01:45:53,040 Speaker 1: have somebody, don't that? Can we come back to the 1744 01:45:53,120 --> 01:45:57,000 Speaker 1: no no, don't do that. Mo oh my god, come 1745 01:45:59,760 --> 01:46:02,160 Speaker 1: come mom. Like I really can't think of no names 1746 01:46:03,439 --> 01:46:06,920 Speaker 1: all this R and B you've been singing with. These 1747 01:46:07,000 --> 01:46:11,040 Speaker 1: people are people you've been in the studio with songs with, 1748 01:46:11,680 --> 01:46:16,240 Speaker 1: Because I'd be like, even if it's even if it's 1749 01:46:16,280 --> 01:46:18,360 Speaker 1: a forbidden name, you can say the name. You can 1750 01:46:18,479 --> 01:46:23,200 Speaker 1: say say what you gotta say, likely man at you, 1751 01:46:25,560 --> 01:46:30,719 Speaker 1: it's really going Because I'm trying to think, oh ahead, 1752 01:46:30,800 --> 01:46:34,240 Speaker 1: say it. I can't think of who it is. Like 1753 01:46:35,520 --> 01:46:40,840 Speaker 1: then I would say, Brandy, that Full More album changed 1754 01:46:40,840 --> 01:46:47,720 Speaker 1: my life. No one argue Brandy. Absolutely, I used to 1755 01:46:47,760 --> 01:46:49,240 Speaker 1: listen to that. Why are you listening to that before 1756 01:46:49,240 --> 01:46:55,760 Speaker 1: your show? Nickas? But now I think about it, all 1757 01:46:55,800 --> 01:46:58,160 Speaker 1: the people that I've named is always the people that's 1758 01:46:58,680 --> 01:47:00,920 Speaker 1: bringing out that. He brought out a sound that was 1759 01:47:00,960 --> 01:47:06,920 Speaker 1: a whole sound that people try to emulatelate to this day. 1760 01:47:06,920 --> 01:47:11,840 Speaker 1: And I'd be like, y'all's not the messy oil. Yes, 1761 01:47:12,160 --> 01:47:16,400 Speaker 1: so it's just like but those like I would say 1762 01:47:16,479 --> 01:47:21,800 Speaker 1: like that I would listen to before show. But yeah, 1763 01:47:23,560 --> 01:47:26,880 Speaker 1: you have to explain your five five And it's crazy, 1764 01:47:26,960 --> 01:47:30,679 Speaker 1: is I've only one I've seen a concerts probably Brandy. 1765 01:47:33,760 --> 01:47:36,960 Speaker 1: I've never been to a Whitney Houston concert. I've never 1766 01:47:37,080 --> 01:47:39,320 Speaker 1: been to a jod to see concert I have. I 1767 01:47:39,560 --> 01:47:41,880 Speaker 1: I've never been to an early I've been the Casey 1768 01:47:41,920 --> 01:47:46,559 Speaker 1: and Jojo And that's when it was, I know, crazy, 1769 01:47:48,320 --> 01:47:51,000 Speaker 1: stupid crazy. But remember when he was walking out or 1770 01:47:52,920 --> 01:47:57,240 Speaker 1: a chicken wing, Remember he grabbed a wing off that 1771 01:47:58,200 --> 01:48:01,040 Speaker 1: if we had a show with them. They were singing 1772 01:48:01,200 --> 01:48:09,200 Speaker 1: background for father and see treat, what treat? Remember they 1773 01:48:09,240 --> 01:48:16,160 Speaker 1: were singing like John everybody That's why when I think 1774 01:48:16,200 --> 01:48:21,240 Speaker 1: we did either Jack the Rapper or the b R. Yeah, 1775 01:48:21,720 --> 01:48:25,360 Speaker 1: they were singing church. I didn't know that. Remember they 1776 01:48:25,400 --> 01:48:28,240 Speaker 1: used to get was only fifteen at that time, they 1777 01:48:28,280 --> 01:48:31,920 Speaker 1: were kids. Yeah, and that's why I remember. Remember what 1778 01:48:32,040 --> 01:48:34,960 Speaker 1: was Donnie Soul show video Soul and they were like, 1779 01:48:35,240 --> 01:48:37,360 Speaker 1: so what are your family? I remember because I used 1780 01:48:37,360 --> 01:48:40,439 Speaker 1: to study people's interviews, what do your family thing about 1781 01:48:40,479 --> 01:48:43,680 Speaker 1: you singing? Because they came up like apostolic holiness. I 1782 01:48:43,760 --> 01:48:47,360 Speaker 1: remember going to Bishop Yes, but I went to Johnny 1783 01:48:47,400 --> 01:48:49,800 Speaker 1: Graves church one time because one of the Graves used 1784 01:48:49,800 --> 01:48:51,160 Speaker 1: to go to school with me. So I went to 1785 01:48:51,240 --> 01:48:53,320 Speaker 1: the church. They used to win the Doyles and baby, 1786 01:48:53,439 --> 01:48:56,519 Speaker 1: you wasn't coming there with no pants. So when they 1787 01:48:56,640 --> 01:48:58,040 Speaker 1: was like, you know, our parents just like you know, 1788 01:48:58,120 --> 01:49:00,719 Speaker 1: you ain't living right, and I was just like, don't understand. 1789 01:49:02,080 --> 01:49:05,200 Speaker 1: So when they formed circles around me in church, I 1790 01:49:05,320 --> 01:49:07,080 Speaker 1: used to crawl for money. You ain't about to m 1791 01:49:08,040 --> 01:49:10,920 Speaker 1: just man, because you ain't get chosen. I'm gonna talk 1792 01:49:10,960 --> 01:49:18,800 Speaker 1: about it. Okay, Top five R and B Songs mail 1793 01:49:18,840 --> 01:49:28,120 Speaker 1: or top Okay our group, Okay, our group love me better, Kenny, 1794 01:49:28,360 --> 01:49:30,639 Speaker 1: like I wish I could write like that so abstract, 1795 01:49:30,680 --> 01:49:35,400 Speaker 1: like what made him think of it that? Um, please 1796 01:49:35,800 --> 01:49:39,240 Speaker 1: don't go don't you don't have to do that. I 1797 01:49:39,240 --> 01:49:45,120 Speaker 1: don't think you understand. I don't think you understand that 1798 01:49:47,320 --> 01:49:49,600 Speaker 1: because when people go to the false set up and 1799 01:49:49,680 --> 01:49:53,160 Speaker 1: it's just as effective as full voice, you can't leave us. 1800 01:49:53,800 --> 01:49:55,479 Speaker 1: I can't leave it. Don't don't try to need of me. 1801 01:49:55,680 --> 01:49:58,240 Speaker 1: Don't you know there's a reason. And if you think 1802 01:49:58,280 --> 01:50:00,320 Speaker 1: she'd wait too, Yeah, it's gonna be some what people 1803 01:50:00,360 --> 01:50:03,840 Speaker 1: just like you can't like those kind of gifts, don't 1804 01:50:03,920 --> 01:50:12,000 Speaker 1: they don't come around? Yeah? Yeah, um yeah, um full Moon, 1805 01:50:12,400 --> 01:50:21,479 Speaker 1: I ain't even want to run. Come on, man, come on, man, 1806 01:50:22,400 --> 01:50:26,080 Speaker 1: come on. If you like she would say, get it 1807 01:50:26,120 --> 01:50:30,200 Speaker 1: crack and if you like, must be a ful that. 1808 01:50:30,479 --> 01:50:41,559 Speaker 1: So that's three. Um oh, I hate that. I love 1809 01:50:41,640 --> 01:50:43,400 Speaker 1: this song because I know this person is not supposed 1810 01:50:43,439 --> 01:50:49,280 Speaker 1: to be light, but come on, one of the okay, 1811 01:50:49,320 --> 01:50:52,720 Speaker 1: come on, No matter what people think. One of the 1812 01:50:52,920 --> 01:50:55,960 Speaker 1: best written songs to me in the world was the 1813 01:50:56,040 --> 01:51:07,560 Speaker 1: best sex I've had by R Kelly. Sure craz came on, 1814 01:51:08,280 --> 01:51:11,200 Speaker 1: but I first came on. And I want to know 1815 01:51:11,240 --> 01:51:13,719 Speaker 1: another fun fact. You know I'm full of fun facts. 1816 01:51:14,160 --> 01:51:17,320 Speaker 1: What I want to know because this is like, so 1817 01:51:18,200 --> 01:51:24,240 Speaker 1: what from Happily ever After? Case? That's from case Wait, 1818 01:51:25,840 --> 01:51:31,960 Speaker 1: mabe what part? Go ahead? Come on, come on wait. 1819 01:51:32,120 --> 01:51:38,439 Speaker 1: Wasn't that song before? No no, ive never happen first. No, no, no, 1820 01:51:39,160 --> 01:51:41,600 Speaker 1: there is no. I don't know, there is no. I 1821 01:51:41,640 --> 01:51:44,280 Speaker 1: don't know. There is no. I don't know. Shout out 1822 01:51:44,280 --> 01:51:49,559 Speaker 1: to Joe Joe Brown, shout out my guy, um um 1823 01:51:49,880 --> 01:51:56,360 Speaker 1: um Chris Chris. Oh god, I can't think of Chris's 1824 01:51:56,439 --> 01:51:57,840 Speaker 1: last name because we got a lot of going on. 1825 01:52:00,760 --> 01:52:04,120 Speaker 1: I'm trying to figure out what my guy got paid 1826 01:52:04,200 --> 01:52:06,840 Speaker 1: for that. Oh no, no, no, no, no, I believe you, 1827 01:52:06,920 --> 01:52:12,280 Speaker 1: but I don't know. We're gonna get same facts. The 1828 01:52:12,439 --> 01:52:17,360 Speaker 1: Greatest Sex is a take from cases Happily ever After. 1829 01:52:29,160 --> 01:52:41,720 Speaker 1: I dude, you gonna put him side side was the 1830 01:52:41,760 --> 01:52:44,720 Speaker 1: one that had found out and be like, oh Chris, 1831 01:52:45,080 --> 01:52:47,200 Speaker 1: I can't think of his last name. It's it's I'm 1832 01:52:47,240 --> 01:52:49,360 Speaker 1: missing I'm Chris. This is my guy for you too. 1833 01:52:49,520 --> 01:52:53,560 Speaker 1: My apologies brother, when you see this. This is a 1834 01:52:53,560 --> 01:52:56,639 Speaker 1: shout out to you. No no, no, no, absolutely because 1835 01:52:56,680 --> 01:52:59,599 Speaker 1: it was and I remember the time when it happened. 1836 01:52:59,640 --> 01:53:02,479 Speaker 1: It's no, no, no, he had to change. He had 1837 01:53:02,800 --> 01:53:05,240 Speaker 1: he had to. He had to that brother publish. Yeah, 1838 01:53:05,240 --> 01:53:09,280 Speaker 1: he changed it a little bit. But now you greats sex. 1839 01:53:09,600 --> 01:53:13,360 Speaker 1: But ya. But when I heard Greatest Sex, I say, 1840 01:53:13,400 --> 01:53:22,840 Speaker 1: he beat me again. Damn it. I used like I 1841 01:53:23,000 --> 01:53:27,640 Speaker 1: love drama, was like he beat me and King I 1842 01:53:27,680 --> 01:53:29,760 Speaker 1: used to always be like this, I'm a catching, I'm 1843 01:53:29,800 --> 01:53:32,080 Speaker 1: a guin. Oh I'm gonna kill him with this one. 1844 01:53:32,120 --> 01:53:34,679 Speaker 1: And then I heard greaterst Sex. I was like, I lost, 1845 01:53:36,360 --> 01:53:41,400 Speaker 1: but but comma no with me, just like like you know, 1846 01:53:41,640 --> 01:53:44,840 Speaker 1: like you you know when you hear you hear something, 1847 01:53:44,960 --> 01:53:47,680 Speaker 1: you oh, God like what made him thinking that? I 1848 01:53:48,000 --> 01:53:53,519 Speaker 1: wish I had written and produced that song and sang 1849 01:53:53,600 --> 01:54:01,439 Speaker 1: it that way. Chris Henderson, Chris Henderson, Steve Henderson, Why okay? 1850 01:54:01,600 --> 01:54:07,439 Speaker 1: Chris deep ended yes, yes, happily ever half okay? All right? Okay? 1851 01:54:07,479 --> 01:54:09,760 Speaker 1: That that it was a three number four was four, 1852 01:54:10,040 --> 01:54:16,080 Speaker 1: and I would say five mm hmm, let me take 1853 01:54:16,280 --> 01:54:22,519 Speaker 1: because there's some songs, uh I love sweet love Bonita Baker. 1854 01:54:23,680 --> 01:54:25,479 Speaker 1: I added that to myself because I was just like, 1855 01:54:27,120 --> 01:54:29,080 Speaker 1: do you do you know? All right? That's do it? 1856 01:54:29,240 --> 01:54:34,440 Speaker 1: I love those give us a little sweet love you baby, 1857 01:54:35,200 --> 01:54:36,920 Speaker 1: she said with all my heart I love were you're 1858 01:54:36,960 --> 01:54:39,720 Speaker 1: telling me I love you. I'm gonna give you something 1859 01:54:39,760 --> 01:54:48,120 Speaker 1: to sweet love good name. I don't know. I feel 1860 01:54:48,200 --> 01:54:54,920 Speaker 1: no calling off my name. You don't love me. If 1861 01:54:54,960 --> 01:54:56,880 Speaker 1: you don't tell me that you don't love me, you 1862 01:54:57,000 --> 01:54:59,320 Speaker 1: do not love me. If you don't tell me that, 1863 01:55:00,040 --> 01:55:04,360 Speaker 1: Haul it out, man, and don't feel feel no shame. 1864 01:55:04,640 --> 01:55:13,520 Speaker 1: There was no social media because now you like there 1865 01:55:13,560 --> 01:55:15,520 Speaker 1: was no shame back then you knew your granddaddy had 1866 01:55:15,760 --> 01:55:19,120 Speaker 1: three fans. Now that no shame is to another level 1867 01:55:19,160 --> 01:55:23,080 Speaker 1: because if you say that and some little hood roach 1868 01:55:23,680 --> 01:55:26,200 Speaker 1: go and say she no I and you still don't 1869 01:55:26,200 --> 01:55:29,280 Speaker 1: feel away about it. Yeah, that means that man. Yeah, 1870 01:55:29,280 --> 01:55:30,680 Speaker 1: because you know, at the end of the day, she 1871 01:55:31,520 --> 01:55:33,960 Speaker 1: she ain't gonna do nothing. But yeah, because we ain't 1872 01:55:33,960 --> 01:55:38,720 Speaker 1: getting no younger, because we already already knew my granddaddy 1873 01:55:38,760 --> 01:55:44,080 Speaker 1: had different family damn families. What in his church? I 1874 01:55:44,160 --> 01:55:46,360 Speaker 1: found out out later. I was like, he was outside, 1875 01:55:46,440 --> 01:55:50,000 Speaker 1: but I get it he's inside too, that way, that way, 1876 01:55:51,800 --> 01:55:55,400 Speaker 1: probably with a tony. I'm sure you had to fly young, 1877 01:55:55,720 --> 01:56:16,440 Speaker 1: you feel me? Yeah, he first row. You know they've 1878 01:56:16,480 --> 01:56:19,000 Speaker 1: thrown them over their head. Now the girls, who is 1879 01:56:19,320 --> 01:56:25,720 Speaker 1: all right? Okay? Okay, I love it here, it is 1880 01:56:26,680 --> 01:56:32,080 Speaker 1: your place. We're gonna do an R and B voltron Okay, 1881 01:56:32,320 --> 01:56:35,400 Speaker 1: you're gonna build. You're gonna build the R and B artists. Okay, 1882 01:56:36,040 --> 01:56:46,080 Speaker 1: it's gonna be vocal um style presentation performances they bob 1883 01:56:46,960 --> 01:56:55,400 Speaker 1: and their passion. I remember missing one vocal style performance 1884 01:56:56,200 --> 01:57:01,120 Speaker 1: and passion swag the whole. Think. That's why I think 1885 01:57:01,400 --> 01:57:09,560 Speaker 1: for weeks there, because we've got the coldest who got 1886 01:57:09,640 --> 01:57:19,160 Speaker 1: the chop Rick James? Maybe he keep it yo, he 1887 01:57:19,320 --> 01:57:22,360 Speaker 1: was outside what he was outside. I don't even know 1888 01:57:22,400 --> 01:57:25,120 Speaker 1: if we could have another Rick James. That's why I'm like, 1889 01:57:25,200 --> 01:57:29,200 Speaker 1: it's the only certain people, because you know what's happening 1890 01:57:29,240 --> 01:57:33,320 Speaker 1: when he's making that song. You know what's going on 1891 01:57:33,440 --> 01:57:39,960 Speaker 1: in that studio session. And yeah, okay, so yeah, let's 1892 01:57:40,040 --> 01:57:42,560 Speaker 1: let's start with the vocals piece it together. Who are 1893 01:57:42,600 --> 01:57:44,720 Speaker 1: you going to grab the vocal from to build your 1894 01:57:44,800 --> 01:57:53,520 Speaker 1: RMB artist? Who's the vocal you're taking m there? Well 1895 01:57:53,560 --> 01:57:56,960 Speaker 1: have to be yours, because I'll be hearing people without 1896 01:57:57,040 --> 01:57:59,680 Speaker 1: the without the order to live on the microt who 1897 01:58:00,000 --> 01:58:05,160 Speaker 1: would know what that? So, yeah, you don't miss your 1898 01:58:05,200 --> 01:58:07,120 Speaker 1: niggas is sick for putting auto tune on your mike, 1899 01:58:07,280 --> 01:58:10,840 Speaker 1: go ahead because saying the kid, and they don't push 1900 01:58:10,920 --> 01:58:14,120 Speaker 1: it because people don't understand auto tune was not created 1901 01:58:15,080 --> 01:58:20,680 Speaker 1: equally jobbed to be singing with the auto tune my 1902 01:58:21,160 --> 01:58:23,880 Speaker 1: messing like listen, I literally bought that mike for my 1903 01:58:24,080 --> 01:58:27,280 Speaker 1: kids that shout out to tea pain and the money 1904 01:58:27,360 --> 01:58:29,480 Speaker 1: he made that you should sell with this store that 1905 01:58:29,640 --> 01:58:33,960 Speaker 1: doesn't exist anymore called toys Arrest. Do they have the 1906 01:58:34,000 --> 01:58:38,440 Speaker 1: autotun mike? They have and you can order because I 1907 01:58:38,520 --> 01:58:42,520 Speaker 1: hope t Paine still get I think, because that ship 1908 01:58:42,600 --> 01:58:45,520 Speaker 1: is genius. But listen, that should not be used on 1909 01:58:45,640 --> 01:58:51,720 Speaker 1: a grand stage. That should not be you because and 1910 01:58:51,800 --> 01:58:54,880 Speaker 1: then when the system go out, see where you know 1911 01:58:54,920 --> 01:58:56,520 Speaker 1: what else we can with the time and not to 1912 01:58:57,680 --> 01:59:03,600 Speaker 1: remember when we don't need no music. Yeah, I mean 1913 01:59:03,680 --> 01:59:06,840 Speaker 1: stump your seat because we had been saying harmony at 1914 01:59:06,920 --> 01:59:12,200 Speaker 1: least three times today that way, no rehearsal. No, don't 1915 01:59:13,160 --> 01:59:14,800 Speaker 1: you know what's crazy? Is I love at two when 1916 01:59:14,800 --> 01:59:23,120 Speaker 1: you used correctly because it yeah, I think, Yeah, if 1917 01:59:23,160 --> 01:59:28,040 Speaker 1: we came to see a computer we didn't, we would 1918 01:59:28,080 --> 01:59:35,880 Speaker 1: go to a Max show. Yeah, I phone awards for 1919 01:59:35,960 --> 01:59:41,360 Speaker 1: that ship awards or whatever is I know one of 1920 01:59:41,400 --> 01:59:46,160 Speaker 1: them ships would the nerds be Yeah? And one time 1921 01:59:46,160 --> 01:59:48,240 Speaker 1: I tried and I was like, wait, I try to 1922 01:59:48,320 --> 01:59:50,000 Speaker 1: use on the terms, like why does it make me say? 1923 01:59:50,680 --> 01:59:55,520 Speaker 1: Because if you have rato, yeah you got you gotta 1924 01:59:55,560 --> 02:00:00,280 Speaker 1: push its like it pitched corresmatic family, you sing feeling 1925 02:00:00,280 --> 02:00:05,440 Speaker 1: because your chromatic very loose happens, no feeling and auto 1926 02:00:05,520 --> 02:00:10,440 Speaker 1: tune the computer don't got her heart. Don't talk about it, 1927 02:00:10,520 --> 02:00:13,760 Speaker 1: little mo dude, though, talk about it. Listen, We'll take, 1928 02:00:14,480 --> 02:00:19,000 Speaker 1: We'll take, We'll take, the listen. We would take that 1929 02:00:19,160 --> 02:00:23,600 Speaker 1: early Mary J. Blige with all that feeling and all 1930 02:00:23,720 --> 02:00:27,600 Speaker 1: that grit and all that over anything, with all the 1931 02:00:27,720 --> 02:00:34,400 Speaker 1: tune on it over because I've seen Mary lan and 1932 02:00:35,000 --> 02:00:38,920 Speaker 1: you could see her every night. She's gonna give it everything. 1933 02:00:39,400 --> 02:00:43,520 Speaker 1: She's God. When she passed, I want to pass it up, like, yeah, 1934 02:00:44,240 --> 02:00:46,240 Speaker 1: I'll take it. If you think I was yelling that 1935 02:00:46,440 --> 02:00:48,760 Speaker 1: night when you like, I get to be a fan. 1936 02:00:48,920 --> 02:00:51,480 Speaker 1: I still have the video. She came to Baltimore, so 1937 02:00:51,680 --> 02:00:53,560 Speaker 1: I performed with d nice and then Mary came out. 1938 02:00:53,600 --> 02:00:55,120 Speaker 1: When she does, I said, I hope when she did 1939 02:00:55,200 --> 02:01:00,839 Speaker 1: no more drama she passed out? Did she? Man? Tammy 1940 02:01:01,120 --> 02:01:03,800 Speaker 1: was there and I was just like, I think and 1941 02:01:04,120 --> 02:01:05,720 Speaker 1: not even go off on the tangent, but I think 1942 02:01:05,840 --> 02:01:14,000 Speaker 1: Mary J. Blige has the perfect song playlist of maybe 1943 02:01:14,040 --> 02:01:17,240 Speaker 1: any artists, so she part of in terms of music 1944 02:01:17,960 --> 02:01:25,000 Speaker 1: that that really resonates her, hire being like when Mary sings, 1945 02:01:27,000 --> 02:01:29,000 Speaker 1: you know what I love too. It's because when a 1946 02:01:29,080 --> 02:01:30,560 Speaker 1: lot of these are people like, oh my god, that's 1947 02:01:30,560 --> 02:01:32,400 Speaker 1: my favorite, I'm like, that's what's up. I'm not here 1948 02:01:32,440 --> 02:01:34,320 Speaker 1: to pick and choose who your favorite is, but I 1949 02:01:34,400 --> 02:01:36,760 Speaker 1: love artists that Okay, this is my set time, I 1950 02:01:36,880 --> 02:01:39,880 Speaker 1: understand it. But Mary's gonna give you testimony like then 1951 02:01:39,960 --> 02:01:42,080 Speaker 1: times they have to keep it, you know. But she'll 1952 02:01:42,120 --> 02:01:43,640 Speaker 1: talking between she be like, y'all don't know what I 1953 02:01:43,760 --> 02:01:46,280 Speaker 1: was going through. I would like, I love when she 1954 02:01:46,400 --> 02:01:49,080 Speaker 1: gets into that bag, like minutes to us, you're healing. 1955 02:01:51,160 --> 02:01:54,280 Speaker 1: So that's why divertized. I'll be like, look y'all when 1956 02:01:54,320 --> 02:01:56,880 Speaker 1: I listen, I'm singing all these damn love songs, but 1957 02:01:56,960 --> 02:01:59,120 Speaker 1: a bitch getting her ass beat at the house. Y'all 1958 02:01:59,120 --> 02:02:02,360 Speaker 1: have no idea your forby. So it's just like, you 1959 02:02:02,440 --> 02:02:04,360 Speaker 1: don't know how many people went through pain, so voice 1960 02:02:04,400 --> 02:02:10,040 Speaker 1: you passion Murray like her passion. This is never gonna 1961 02:02:10,080 --> 02:02:11,880 Speaker 1: be people like, oh my god, that's the new man. No, 1962 02:02:12,160 --> 02:02:17,360 Speaker 1: there's only don't do that Mary, and you can't put 1963 02:02:17,440 --> 02:02:20,960 Speaker 1: together a jean to see stop yeah, stop, even if 1964 02:02:21,000 --> 02:02:23,120 Speaker 1: you'll be jumping on like or you know what, I'm 1965 02:02:25,200 --> 02:02:29,160 Speaker 1: all the leathers in the desert. No, there'll never be 1966 02:02:29,200 --> 02:02:32,360 Speaker 1: another day of a mad bind never ever, ever ever 1967 02:02:33,120 --> 02:02:38,800 Speaker 1: shoulder at the part whatever, They'll never be style style trip, 1968 02:02:40,600 --> 02:02:43,840 Speaker 1: Who put that ship on? Go ahead and do that 1969 02:02:44,120 --> 02:02:46,680 Speaker 1: that little goofy dance that abb doing. Do the goofy 1970 02:02:46,800 --> 02:02:50,440 Speaker 1: dances somebody doing I know what you're talking about. Who 1971 02:02:50,560 --> 02:02:59,839 Speaker 1: be doing? Man, you gotta dan like, who'll be dressing 1972 02:03:00,560 --> 02:03:04,440 Speaker 1: the only person that honestly dresses of all time some time, 1973 02:03:05,480 --> 02:03:08,360 Speaker 1: all time time? We got some guys and girl girls 1974 02:03:09,040 --> 02:03:11,840 Speaker 1: give you this ship. The only person I know that 1975 02:03:11,880 --> 02:03:14,560 Speaker 1: I'll be like, Yo, they're gonna Mike. I love the 1976 02:03:14,600 --> 02:03:18,240 Speaker 1: way Mary dresses because she gonna wear boot like she's 1977 02:03:18,240 --> 02:03:21,280 Speaker 1: gonna give you like when she comes on, she's gonna 1978 02:03:21,280 --> 02:03:28,560 Speaker 1: give you how they put it on TV to be 1979 02:03:30,200 --> 02:03:35,680 Speaker 1: and I lift the she didn't you know what? Where 1980 02:03:35,760 --> 02:03:37,520 Speaker 1: with you a world stage? We're gonna put that on 1981 02:03:37,640 --> 02:03:41,880 Speaker 1: power tonight, Ye power book, this is gonna because she Yeah, 1982 02:03:41,920 --> 02:03:45,560 Speaker 1: she's gonna give you like she's gonna give you that 1983 02:03:45,720 --> 02:03:48,240 Speaker 1: crop like you know, she's gonna rock out. She's gonna 1984 02:03:48,320 --> 02:03:54,880 Speaker 1: rock out. Of all times, that part um stage performance 1985 02:03:58,400 --> 02:04:01,320 Speaker 1: let me trying to is that I'd be like like, 1986 02:04:01,400 --> 02:04:07,760 Speaker 1: I'll be like, yeah, I felt that. Um, I got 1987 02:04:07,880 --> 02:04:11,080 Speaker 1: start going to shows again because people still be so rehearsed, 1988 02:04:12,080 --> 02:04:15,400 Speaker 1: like there's one thing to rehearsed, but then there's like 1989 02:04:15,920 --> 02:04:19,280 Speaker 1: sometimes you're just getting that vibe people like you went 1990 02:04:20,040 --> 02:04:24,400 Speaker 1: you went past Yeah, you like like you just went sure, 1991 02:04:24,520 --> 02:04:28,560 Speaker 1: Yeah like you. It's rare for people to tap in. 1992 02:04:28,640 --> 02:04:30,200 Speaker 1: So I'm trying to think, like, what was the show 1993 02:04:30,240 --> 02:04:32,680 Speaker 1: I went too big in a day? Maybe that was 1994 02:04:32,760 --> 02:04:39,400 Speaker 1: just like Mary Mary cooking the day she's cooking. I 1995 02:04:39,480 --> 02:04:44,320 Speaker 1: watched Mary J. Blige on tour every night, sixty cities, 1996 02:04:44,600 --> 02:04:51,320 Speaker 1: sixty arenas sold out, and every uh, Drew Hill, Genuine 1997 02:04:52,280 --> 02:04:57,200 Speaker 1: and Aaliyah all will go right before Mary. Yeah, phone 1998 02:04:57,200 --> 02:05:02,080 Speaker 1: thugs are clothes and all the musicians, everybody, background singers. 1999 02:05:02,360 --> 02:05:04,640 Speaker 1: We would all go out and sit in the audience 2000 02:05:05,200 --> 02:05:10,800 Speaker 1: and watch Mary go to work every every night school 2001 02:05:10,960 --> 02:05:15,480 Speaker 1: was in session. That's why. I'm just like people don't 2002 02:05:15,600 --> 02:05:22,520 Speaker 1: realize like people because she getting what she should be 2003 02:05:22,600 --> 02:05:25,360 Speaker 1: higher than that does if people come out moth throw hurt. 2004 02:05:25,400 --> 02:05:27,120 Speaker 1: I'm just saying these three songs to go home, y'all 2005 02:05:27,160 --> 02:05:30,960 Speaker 1: get your money back. That's out of control. I know 2006 02:05:31,080 --> 02:05:33,680 Speaker 1: some people get eight hunted, like you gotta you gotta 2007 02:05:33,720 --> 02:05:38,840 Speaker 1: think about like when we're not we're not about a tour, 2008 02:05:39,520 --> 02:05:43,880 Speaker 1: about one off. I wasn't a tour. Do you listen? Eight? 2009 02:05:46,680 --> 02:05:49,440 Speaker 1: I don't know many people, but you know it's crazy 2010 02:05:49,560 --> 02:05:56,800 Speaker 1: million of show. Yeah, you're right, Well I think ain't 2011 02:05:56,800 --> 02:06:00,480 Speaker 1: a Nitta getting half a million? You just said no, 2012 02:06:00,640 --> 02:06:02,240 Speaker 1: But ain't she getting a half of she getting to 2013 02:06:02,240 --> 02:06:06,640 Speaker 1: half a man? Yeah? But like there's Anita, there's Murray, 2014 02:06:06,760 --> 02:06:09,480 Speaker 1: like I think she I think she's Mary is getting 2015 02:06:09,520 --> 02:06:11,600 Speaker 1: almost a million in the show. I think she deserves. 2016 02:06:14,560 --> 02:06:17,040 Speaker 1: I'm just thinking it speaks to you know what I'm saying. 2017 02:06:18,520 --> 02:06:20,320 Speaker 1: But when I was, she ain't coming out of the house. 2018 02:06:20,440 --> 02:06:22,760 Speaker 1: If you like, she ain't got to come up. She 2019 02:06:22,840 --> 02:06:24,640 Speaker 1: don't have to come up. But the let me tell 2020 02:06:24,640 --> 02:06:29,200 Speaker 1: you the blessing is because like being around her and 2021 02:06:29,360 --> 02:06:33,760 Speaker 1: just like seeing her from like Missy had me around Murray's. 2022 02:06:35,280 --> 02:06:37,040 Speaker 1: You know, you couldn't really fan out. You'd be like, yeah, 2023 02:06:37,040 --> 02:06:39,240 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go and do these backgrounds. And then when 2024 02:06:39,280 --> 02:06:41,040 Speaker 1: we were at that the first time I met her 2025 02:06:41,120 --> 02:06:43,160 Speaker 1: and saw her and I was about to lose my 2026 02:06:43,280 --> 02:06:45,680 Speaker 1: mind was at the Hot Boys video set. We was 2027 02:06:45,720 --> 02:06:48,160 Speaker 1: at two o'clock in the morning. My sister had my nephew, 2028 02:06:48,160 --> 02:06:50,000 Speaker 1: I think he was like one years old then, and 2029 02:06:50,160 --> 02:06:52,840 Speaker 1: Mary and Latanya had came and We're like, oh my god. 2030 02:06:54,840 --> 02:06:56,560 Speaker 1: But you know, people are like, oh, you're not allowed 2031 02:06:56,560 --> 02:06:59,600 Speaker 1: to talk to them, and I'm like why, Like this, 2032 02:06:59,760 --> 02:07:02,640 Speaker 1: what ain't do? Mary came to us in our trail 2033 02:07:02,680 --> 02:07:05,760 Speaker 1: and she was like, I love your wigs. Well, I'm 2034 02:07:05,760 --> 02:07:07,240 Speaker 1: gonna call y' all the pretty wigs sis. So she 2035 02:07:07,320 --> 02:07:09,280 Speaker 1: was like, where'd you get those? I said, my friend 2036 02:07:09,320 --> 02:07:11,280 Speaker 1: that does my hair, the girl yasm was braiding my 2037 02:07:11,360 --> 02:07:14,040 Speaker 1: head was getting the wigs at a Flatbush Avenue for 2038 02:07:14,120 --> 02:07:17,480 Speaker 1: twenty dollars. She said, twenty dollars. They were charging her 2039 02:07:18,000 --> 02:07:21,040 Speaker 1: wherever they was flying her wings in two thousand dollars. 2040 02:07:22,600 --> 02:07:24,000 Speaker 1: For the twenty dollar she said, IM gonna call you 2041 02:07:24,040 --> 02:07:26,200 Speaker 1: all the pretty wigs. And I remember her embracing me 2042 02:07:26,280 --> 02:07:28,440 Speaker 1: that night and she was like, keep your family close 2043 02:07:28,440 --> 02:07:31,080 Speaker 1: because these motherfucker's ain't gonna love you like your family. 2044 02:07:31,200 --> 02:07:33,240 Speaker 1: And ever since then, when I ride out, me and 2045 02:07:33,320 --> 02:07:37,920 Speaker 1: my sister got the same Mama saying, Daddy already know 2046 02:07:38,200 --> 02:07:40,280 Speaker 1: I can drink under the table because she ain't gonna 2047 02:07:40,360 --> 02:07:42,760 Speaker 1: let no, I can hire all the security with the gun, 2048 02:07:43,280 --> 02:07:46,160 Speaker 1: let somebody touch her hair on his head. She's gonna 2049 02:07:46,160 --> 02:07:48,440 Speaker 1: put her life before mis We learned that back in 2050 02:07:50,120 --> 02:07:52,120 Speaker 1: and I realized so when I went on tour with 2051 02:07:52,200 --> 02:07:54,080 Speaker 1: Missy when we were Jay LENO have my sister with 2052 02:07:54,200 --> 02:07:56,400 Speaker 1: me anytime I moving away, like I can move And 2053 02:07:56,480 --> 02:07:58,160 Speaker 1: she got a whole life in the family. What's the 2054 02:07:58,240 --> 02:08:00,520 Speaker 1: first thing I said when you came in here, how's 2055 02:08:00,560 --> 02:08:04,440 Speaker 1: your sister? You're the first day And let me tell 2056 02:08:04,440 --> 02:08:06,040 Speaker 1: you what she said When she was like where you going, 2057 02:08:06,080 --> 02:08:07,800 Speaker 1: I said, I'm going to l A. I'm gonna wait. 2058 02:08:07,840 --> 02:08:12,240 Speaker 1: I'm taking Jay talking about you, talking about I'm the stalker. 2059 02:08:12,600 --> 02:08:14,640 Speaker 1: I was just like that. She must have been there 2060 02:08:15,080 --> 02:08:19,240 Speaker 1: because she was just like no, because we've been like 2061 02:08:19,520 --> 02:08:25,680 Speaker 1: just like, I don't think you realize, Yeah, you can't 2062 02:08:25,760 --> 02:08:28,040 Speaker 1: leave us. Okay, it's a great vote on that's a 2063 02:08:28,040 --> 02:08:29,880 Speaker 1: great votes Toronto. Let's get you, let's get back to that. 2064 02:08:30,560 --> 02:08:33,240 Speaker 1: It's a great votes. That's a great because there are 2065 02:08:33,240 --> 02:08:35,040 Speaker 1: some people that can sing. But I just know that 2066 02:08:35,840 --> 02:08:38,560 Speaker 1: if they put it on Nanda social media. They posted 2067 02:08:38,640 --> 02:08:42,640 Speaker 1: up today that you want to go up? Yeah, have 2068 02:08:42,760 --> 02:08:45,720 Speaker 1: you ever talked with Mary? No? I was? I Twitter 2069 02:08:45,840 --> 02:08:48,960 Speaker 1: backgrounds with Shana. We would love to say it again 2070 02:08:48,960 --> 02:08:57,640 Speaker 1: because you know, I just text, Hey, it's me, it's 2071 02:08:57,640 --> 02:09:01,760 Speaker 1: your friend Ja. We would love to go on. I 2072 02:09:01,840 --> 02:09:05,880 Speaker 1: forgot that. I know it's a whole female tour they're 2073 02:09:05,880 --> 02:09:10,200 Speaker 1: going on, and I left respect. Yeah what you're super dollar. 2074 02:09:10,880 --> 02:09:15,320 Speaker 1: But at some point that point the Lord, because I 2075 02:09:15,360 --> 02:09:20,560 Speaker 1: want to be there yelling Lord Lesia Amen, sister obliged 2076 02:09:20,640 --> 02:09:26,080 Speaker 1: to oblige? That would I think that would be so dope. 2077 02:09:27,600 --> 02:09:30,560 Speaker 1: That's R and B. So we got we got this. 2078 02:09:31,760 --> 02:09:34,320 Speaker 1: It's one special part of the show too. Here we go, Okay, 2079 02:09:34,520 --> 02:09:38,240 Speaker 1: here we go. You know it's it's it's a thing. 2080 02:09:38,440 --> 02:09:41,600 Speaker 1: It's becoming a thing. I know you're not scared because 2081 02:09:41,600 --> 02:09:43,800 Speaker 1: you're little more. But I'm gonna need you be sassy 2082 02:09:43,840 --> 02:09:48,680 Speaker 1: seed for this. Be sassy. Not young wisdom, not young wisdom, 2083 02:09:48,840 --> 02:09:52,160 Speaker 1: but more more more snassy. See the Young Wisdom. The 2084 02:09:52,280 --> 02:09:57,560 Speaker 1: portion of the show is called I ain't saying on that? Okay, 2085 02:09:58,760 --> 02:10:03,480 Speaker 1: so what that story can be? Funny? Are fucked up? 2086 02:10:04,120 --> 02:10:07,400 Speaker 1: Are both got you? The only rule is that you 2087 02:10:07,480 --> 02:10:10,400 Speaker 1: just can't say the names, and the people gotta guess 2088 02:10:10,400 --> 02:10:13,400 Speaker 1: who it is whatever they want to do. But you 2089 02:10:13,520 --> 02:10:17,240 Speaker 1: tell us the story and you just can't say no names. 2090 02:10:18,000 --> 02:10:21,640 Speaker 1: So many stories you do, know you do. Let me 2091 02:10:21,680 --> 02:10:23,680 Speaker 1: try to think, child, Let me try to think of 2092 02:10:27,000 --> 02:10:30,760 Speaker 1: Go ahead and take your sip, take your silp, my 2093 02:10:31,000 --> 02:10:57,680 Speaker 1: drink here around you, trying to think of bok got 2094 02:10:57,800 --> 02:11:09,160 Speaker 1: so many childs any man saying are funny and damn, 2095 02:11:09,240 --> 02:11:10,520 Speaker 1: let me try to think it was a good one. 2096 02:11:15,120 --> 02:11:21,680 Speaker 1: It's so much that to happen, like foof God, these 2097 02:11:21,720 --> 02:11:23,280 Speaker 1: are good questions. I wish you all to send me 2098 02:11:23,360 --> 02:11:26,880 Speaker 1: the list trying to think of like a good because 2099 02:11:26,920 --> 02:11:29,680 Speaker 1: I have some something like jaw and then I got 2100 02:11:29,760 --> 02:11:42,320 Speaker 1: something like what the like mm hmm um shoo. God. 2101 02:11:42,480 --> 02:11:45,400 Speaker 1: Thereous be so much stuff that happened to the fact 2102 02:11:45,440 --> 02:11:47,600 Speaker 1: that I'm still alive, Like I'm trying to figure out 2103 02:11:47,640 --> 02:11:51,760 Speaker 1: I'm still here because I've been this some fun up situation. 2104 02:11:51,840 --> 02:11:53,480 Speaker 1: I'll be like, how does this happen. I used always 2105 02:11:53,520 --> 02:11:56,040 Speaker 1: wonder how does this happen to an R and B person? 2106 02:11:56,200 --> 02:11:59,120 Speaker 1: Like we're supposed to be almost like gospel. When no 2107 02:11:59,240 --> 02:12:01,800 Speaker 1: weapon FORMI get a weippers is farming like I'm loving, 2108 02:12:02,480 --> 02:12:10,400 Speaker 1: but the prospering get tricking. It gets real tricky. I'm 2109 02:12:10,440 --> 02:12:16,400 Speaker 1: trying to think, Um, I can tell you one of 2110 02:12:16,440 --> 02:12:21,240 Speaker 1: the best vices somebody gave me, And honestly, I used 2111 02:12:21,280 --> 02:12:24,080 Speaker 1: that through my whole career, and I'm glad because I 2112 02:12:24,160 --> 02:12:26,920 Speaker 1: think that's the reason why I'm still here. I remember, 2113 02:12:27,080 --> 02:12:30,560 Speaker 1: like there was a time when she was I was, 2114 02:12:32,240 --> 02:12:35,840 Speaker 1: and I wasn't Murray and I am. The kids and 2115 02:12:35,920 --> 02:12:38,720 Speaker 1: I remember somebody they came to me. They was just 2116 02:12:38,840 --> 02:12:41,960 Speaker 1: like MO, Like they used to tell people, if you 2117 02:12:42,000 --> 02:12:44,160 Speaker 1: do a lot of features, you'll get oversaturated. Then people 2118 02:12:44,240 --> 02:12:46,560 Speaker 1: get tired of it. They was like, no, MO, keep 2119 02:12:46,600 --> 02:12:50,640 Speaker 1: going because you have something that like a lot of 2120 02:12:50,680 --> 02:12:53,880 Speaker 1: people don't have, Like there's there's faith as Murray is 2121 02:12:54,320 --> 02:12:56,600 Speaker 1: like this Kelly and they were singing roal hooks, but 2122 02:12:56,640 --> 02:13:00,760 Speaker 1: they were just like MO, like you have something. All 2123 02:13:00,840 --> 02:13:06,000 Speaker 1: I ax is that because like yeah, like because I 2124 02:13:06,080 --> 02:13:09,080 Speaker 1: have been through that, I survived the turn up once 2125 02:13:09,120 --> 02:13:11,160 Speaker 1: I got to the church, and I realized, oh man, 2126 02:13:11,160 --> 02:13:13,840 Speaker 1: I ain't gonna even leave bird with the devil. I 2127 02:13:14,040 --> 02:13:17,720 Speaker 1: just did drugs out of drink. Like so now when 2128 02:13:17,760 --> 02:13:20,320 Speaker 1: I celebrate, I'm just like your eye beat all the 2129 02:13:20,440 --> 02:13:24,320 Speaker 1: fucking odds. But when this person told me, they was like, 2130 02:13:24,560 --> 02:13:29,120 Speaker 1: just gonna funk, none of these niggas. But I know 2131 02:13:29,280 --> 02:13:38,080 Speaker 1: it was all these bitches like all the Oh I 2132 02:13:38,240 --> 02:13:42,120 Speaker 1: took that, and that's what help me. Somebody takes me 2133 02:13:42,200 --> 02:13:44,520 Speaker 1: longer to get to where I need to get. But 2134 02:13:45,200 --> 02:13:47,480 Speaker 1: when you walk in the room and it be everybody 2135 02:13:47,760 --> 02:13:51,520 Speaker 1: from the highest rap to the lowest and crap, can't 2136 02:13:51,560 --> 02:14:05,640 Speaker 1: nobody say they hit me from the back. It's just 2137 02:14:05,800 --> 02:14:12,240 Speaker 1: like they hit me from And do you know how 2138 02:14:12,440 --> 02:14:14,680 Speaker 1: easy it is as a woman when they know when 2139 02:14:14,720 --> 02:14:16,680 Speaker 1: you when you touch it, Danny, you go. I was 2140 02:14:16,800 --> 02:14:20,160 Speaker 1: at all the concerts because I was all the tours 2141 02:14:20,520 --> 02:14:24,280 Speaker 1: and I had access to all everybody. But it's just like, 2142 02:14:25,880 --> 02:14:29,640 Speaker 1: just do a song with them. You don't have like niggas, 2143 02:14:31,640 --> 02:14:34,960 Speaker 1: even the one even the girls who had gifts. I 2144 02:14:35,600 --> 02:14:39,840 Speaker 1: get the girls who don't have gifts. And but at 2145 02:14:39,840 --> 02:14:42,080 Speaker 1: the end of the day, I'm glad I didn't. And 2146 02:14:42,120 --> 02:14:43,960 Speaker 1: then and I'll take the longer rong. I don't care. 2147 02:14:44,800 --> 02:14:48,520 Speaker 1: But like I said, I've been divorced three times. Niggas 2148 02:14:48,600 --> 02:14:52,600 Speaker 1: job anyway, you said three times, yeah, three times. Yes, 2149 02:14:53,600 --> 02:14:59,240 Speaker 1: you know you're Elizabeth Taylor Christian jan Now I'm just 2150 02:14:59,280 --> 02:15:02,200 Speaker 1: getting know I'm up there. But it was just like, 2151 02:15:02,320 --> 02:15:03,520 Speaker 1: you know what, that was a part of me, like, 2152 02:15:03,720 --> 02:15:06,440 Speaker 1: it's bad, I'm married in the burn, So would you 2153 02:15:06,480 --> 02:15:11,920 Speaker 1: get marride again? Not to nobody that it's levels So 2154 02:15:12,200 --> 02:15:14,240 Speaker 1: we will get married for love? No, you don't, you 2155 02:15:14,360 --> 02:15:21,560 Speaker 1: better when you keep going. So you people had these conversations. 2156 02:15:21,680 --> 02:15:23,800 Speaker 1: They had this conversation all the time, though, about what 2157 02:15:23,880 --> 02:15:26,120 Speaker 1: marriage used to really be about. It used to be 2158 02:15:26,560 --> 02:15:29,600 Speaker 1: there should be a businesses it was a business or 2159 02:15:30,000 --> 02:15:32,880 Speaker 1: I think black people change that because we used to. 2160 02:15:32,960 --> 02:15:35,480 Speaker 1: I don't think the others ever married truly for love. 2161 02:15:35,720 --> 02:15:38,120 Speaker 1: They never did. They always had a bad not the 2162 02:15:38,160 --> 02:15:42,840 Speaker 1: colonizes who always there's always a play. It was always 2163 02:15:43,600 --> 02:15:47,240 Speaker 1: I'm watching House of Dragon right now, I'm watching Dragons 2164 02:15:47,360 --> 02:15:50,400 Speaker 1: right now. The tricky situation, the other thing trying to 2165 02:15:50,480 --> 02:15:58,120 Speaker 1: marry a little dragons. So it's the it's the Game 2166 02:15:58,160 --> 02:16:01,200 Speaker 1: of Thrones. It's the pre free, cool to game of thrones, 2167 02:16:02,240 --> 02:16:06,120 Speaker 1: and they got the Game of thrones because you keep blood. 2168 02:16:06,400 --> 02:16:08,800 Speaker 1: It's about keeping the family, yo, you know, one of 2169 02:16:08,840 --> 02:16:11,000 Speaker 1: the what's crazy and strength in the in the in 2170 02:16:11,080 --> 02:16:15,280 Speaker 1: the wealth. But black people were trying to I had 2171 02:16:15,320 --> 02:16:18,480 Speaker 1: got married one time, I hold you when my Sunday 2172 02:16:18,560 --> 02:16:21,040 Speaker 1: was like, because my ex was a church musician, he's 2173 02:16:21,040 --> 02:16:23,240 Speaker 1: gonna get sat down. They came to phone out that 2174 02:16:23,360 --> 02:16:26,600 Speaker 1: church don't sit people down. Well, okay, I don't know 2175 02:16:26,680 --> 02:16:28,280 Speaker 1: what that means. That it means you can't play. No, 2176 02:16:28,400 --> 02:16:31,040 Speaker 1: you can't play well, you're supposed to be safe. So yeah, 2177 02:16:31,120 --> 02:16:36,119 Speaker 1: that time, if y'all did get married, he wasn't gonna 2178 02:16:36,120 --> 02:16:38,880 Speaker 1: get this one twenty five a week no more because 2179 02:16:40,360 --> 02:16:42,000 Speaker 1: ever heard about those church? Why do you go to 2180 02:16:42,080 --> 02:16:45,680 Speaker 1: my number? Because these musicians, now I was getting on 2181 02:16:47,879 --> 02:16:57,440 Speaker 1: the ball it up. Why you want me to go 2182 02:16:57,520 --> 02:17:00,320 Speaker 1: to the bank and cash. We could have took that 2183 02:17:00,360 --> 02:17:03,200 Speaker 1: out off from maybe like we we can't hey you 2184 02:17:03,280 --> 02:17:05,960 Speaker 1: for you, We're like you might as well keep They 2185 02:17:06,040 --> 02:17:08,520 Speaker 1: told him if y'all don't get married, somebody told her 2186 02:17:08,840 --> 02:17:11,280 Speaker 1: that must have been a down self tradition. But come 2187 02:17:11,360 --> 02:17:13,200 Speaker 1: to find out that the church was like, no, we 2188 02:17:13,280 --> 02:17:17,160 Speaker 1: don't sit people down. And I was just like, hey, 2189 02:17:17,720 --> 02:17:21,080 Speaker 1: so she was already married. So then they had got married. 2190 02:17:21,160 --> 02:17:25,960 Speaker 1: Like at the Bible study, definitely, they would sit you 2191 02:17:26,000 --> 02:17:27,360 Speaker 1: down and you had a baby down south, and then 2192 02:17:27,360 --> 02:17:29,560 Speaker 1: the baby wanted to be and your sister brother child. 2193 02:17:29,879 --> 02:17:32,920 Speaker 1: Yeah I came up and you know, and sisters was 2194 02:17:32,959 --> 02:17:39,119 Speaker 1: really mothers and daughters out communicated from the church. Yeah, 2195 02:17:39,600 --> 02:17:42,520 Speaker 1: you know, like a lifetime movie. That was really how 2196 02:17:42,640 --> 02:17:47,680 Speaker 1: traumatized if that was to realize that your mama allowed 2197 02:17:47,680 --> 02:17:49,879 Speaker 1: to be like almost like a scarlet letter type vib 2198 02:17:50,040 --> 02:17:52,360 Speaker 1: not all you're gonna burn it him now you got 2199 02:17:52,440 --> 02:17:53,800 Speaker 1: you have to know to get pregnant. Like wait, I 2200 02:17:53,840 --> 02:17:55,960 Speaker 1: didn't have to know to do nothing, you know what 2201 02:17:56,000 --> 02:17:58,280 Speaker 1: I'm saying. But that was just like I'm glad niggas 2202 02:17:58,280 --> 02:17:59,920 Speaker 1: ain't going for that no more. Just like it is 2203 02:18:00,080 --> 02:18:04,360 Speaker 1: what it is. Yeah, very were you're talking this church 2204 02:18:04,440 --> 02:18:10,920 Speaker 1: talk the world so you can survive the church early 2205 02:18:11,040 --> 02:18:15,000 Speaker 1: church to firing Brimstone. Are you going to help everything? 2206 02:18:15,240 --> 02:18:17,200 Speaker 1: I used to think I was going to help if 2207 02:18:17,240 --> 02:18:22,520 Speaker 1: I didn't tell. I never thought I was doing everything. 2208 02:18:23,760 --> 02:18:28,800 Speaker 1: Next was at my heels curse until I turned till 2209 02:18:28,920 --> 02:18:30,640 Speaker 1: I started doing R and B until two years out 2210 02:18:30,640 --> 02:18:37,119 Speaker 1: of high school. Me need to yeah, yeah, church grown man. Yeah, 2211 02:18:39,480 --> 02:18:42,320 Speaker 1: graduated eighteen to like almost twenty, let's start doing R 2212 02:18:42,320 --> 02:18:44,320 Speaker 1: and B. And it was and it was even I 2213 02:18:46,000 --> 02:18:47,880 Speaker 1: was inching my way and I was like, I was like, well, 2214 02:18:47,879 --> 02:18:50,280 Speaker 1: I'm gonna just be like boys to men. You know 2215 02:18:50,280 --> 02:18:53,000 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, I'll be boys to man baby face, Yeah, 2216 02:18:53,720 --> 02:18:56,800 Speaker 1: sinkle of bright McKnight, That's what I'm gonna be. And 2217 02:18:56,920 --> 02:18:59,119 Speaker 1: then and then I got ahold of that. R Kelly. 2218 02:18:59,320 --> 02:19:02,440 Speaker 1: You didn't get with no Rick James, no Prince. I 2219 02:19:02,480 --> 02:19:05,039 Speaker 1: grew up some of the music, but I grew up 2220 02:19:05,080 --> 02:19:07,800 Speaker 1: on what I grew up on. You you know nothing 2221 02:19:07,800 --> 02:19:10,760 Speaker 1: about dirty Mind, but I grew up on like listening 2222 02:19:10,840 --> 02:19:13,760 Speaker 1: was able to like when my father had was a bakery, 2223 02:19:14,680 --> 02:19:18,039 Speaker 1: he had guy yep, and he had a new additions. 2224 02:19:19,360 --> 02:19:22,080 Speaker 1: That was the that was you know, was in my house. 2225 02:19:24,320 --> 02:19:29,760 Speaker 1: So no, I want to know. I know, Oh that's 2226 02:19:29,760 --> 02:19:33,800 Speaker 1: another person. They can say he will be sleeping on him, 2227 02:19:34,240 --> 02:19:42,240 Speaker 1: the monster if they sleep his tone killer killer, and 2228 02:19:42,320 --> 02:19:45,920 Speaker 1: he knows it, he knows. Maybe they try to take 2229 02:19:46,040 --> 02:19:47,640 Speaker 1: off the intro to the par and the and they 2230 02:19:47,720 --> 02:19:49,000 Speaker 1: tried to switch it out with tray songs. And the 2231 02:19:49,040 --> 02:19:51,280 Speaker 1: people like they kept. The next week that they went 2232 02:19:51,320 --> 02:19:54,440 Speaker 1: back to Rugland got so bad and was like I 2233 02:19:54,480 --> 02:19:58,680 Speaker 1: didn't even ask you, Yes, I didn't ask. They just 2234 02:19:58,800 --> 02:20:00,680 Speaker 1: put me on this. I don't just want to get out. 2235 02:20:00,879 --> 02:20:05,600 Speaker 1: But that's like Joe is just Joe just has that again, 2236 02:20:05,720 --> 02:20:09,160 Speaker 1: that voice that that can cover so much ground, whether 2237 02:20:09,160 --> 02:20:12,040 Speaker 1: it be whether it be dirty, hip hop or love. 2238 02:20:12,120 --> 02:20:15,200 Speaker 1: So his voice just like how does he like? How 2239 02:20:15,240 --> 02:20:19,720 Speaker 1: does he know? Yeah? I just wanting to know wrote 2240 02:20:19,720 --> 02:20:22,160 Speaker 1: and produced for y'all know. I love Joe. I'm a 2241 02:20:22,240 --> 02:20:24,120 Speaker 1: credit read doctor from that era when you get the 2242 02:20:24,160 --> 02:20:30,480 Speaker 1: City unfolded, I used to see who on this? Okay, 2243 02:20:30,760 --> 02:20:36,160 Speaker 1: okay you nice? Yeah yeah, okay, well listen, Um, we 2244 02:20:36,160 --> 02:20:37,720 Speaker 1: don't want to take up all your time because you 2245 02:20:37,760 --> 02:20:43,120 Speaker 1: know your family so you know you you are here. Um, 2246 02:20:44,200 --> 02:20:47,680 Speaker 1: this is always home for you always and you are 2247 02:20:47,800 --> 02:20:50,359 Speaker 1: family to us. You know that we're just letting everybody 2248 02:20:50,400 --> 02:20:53,360 Speaker 1: else not his family. You got something bad to say 2249 02:20:53,400 --> 02:20:59,879 Speaker 1: about littlemochect yourself protect yourself at all time? Yeah, it's 2250 02:21:00,000 --> 02:21:07,080 Speaker 1: because like a tricky Yeah, like people look at me, 2251 02:21:07,200 --> 02:21:12,400 Speaker 1: People look at me and think it's me. I want 2252 02:21:12,440 --> 02:21:14,039 Speaker 1: to know what because I'm like, oh my God, he's 2253 02:21:14,080 --> 02:21:19,160 Speaker 1: so nice. He's so yeah, and I love it. That's 2254 02:21:19,240 --> 02:21:21,520 Speaker 1: that's a perfect balance to be like, you know, just 2255 02:21:21,800 --> 02:21:25,920 Speaker 1: he like, man, we're gonna suck you up. I was like, yeah, man, 2256 02:21:25,959 --> 02:21:37,640 Speaker 1: I can't. He's like man blood all right. Yeah, he's 2257 02:21:37,640 --> 02:21:39,280 Speaker 1: saying what he would be saying what I want to 2258 02:21:39,320 --> 02:21:43,520 Speaker 1: say because I knew I'll be saying some stuff from 2259 02:21:43,560 --> 02:21:48,400 Speaker 1: the Bay Area. Bang, So blood is young blood for us. 2260 02:21:48,480 --> 02:21:52,280 Speaker 1: Don't don't get confused, don't. But I love it. There's 2261 02:21:52,360 --> 02:21:57,880 Speaker 1: no gray area area. They like you, They don't, you know, 2262 02:21:58,040 --> 02:22:02,640 Speaker 1: like we might. No, But anyway, Um, you are you. 2263 02:22:02,840 --> 02:22:06,560 Speaker 1: You are absolutely amazing. You are you are, you are not. 2264 02:22:08,080 --> 02:22:10,200 Speaker 1: You are not old news. You know you are from 2265 02:22:10,240 --> 02:22:13,920 Speaker 1: an old school, but you are still new. You're still 2266 02:22:14,000 --> 02:22:18,160 Speaker 1: in the building, You're still on these stages. You still 2267 02:22:18,280 --> 02:22:25,720 Speaker 1: have your look. Thank you, I'm saying you have you 2268 02:22:25,840 --> 02:22:29,880 Speaker 1: have as your word been preserved for a time like this, 2269 02:22:30,680 --> 02:22:35,040 Speaker 1: And what a time for everybody at this moment to 2270 02:22:35,200 --> 02:22:39,480 Speaker 1: be trying, you know, to prove that R and B 2271 02:22:40,280 --> 02:22:43,920 Speaker 1: it's still a lot and still a thing. And then 2272 02:22:44,040 --> 02:22:47,760 Speaker 1: getting and guess who's just been sitting waiting for everybody 2273 02:22:47,800 --> 02:22:51,959 Speaker 1: to realize that, Yeah, and here we are so um 2274 02:22:52,320 --> 02:22:55,440 Speaker 1: on behalf of the Army Money Podcast. We want to 2275 02:22:55,480 --> 02:22:59,360 Speaker 1: thank you, appreciate you. And this this was this was 2276 02:22:59,440 --> 02:23:03,240 Speaker 1: flowers for you. Thank You've never really gotten any flowers before. 2277 02:23:03,879 --> 02:23:07,000 Speaker 1: This whole thing has been about making sure you get 2278 02:23:07,040 --> 02:23:10,720 Speaker 1: your flowers. We celebrate little, we celebrate you. Know what 2279 02:23:10,920 --> 02:23:15,920 Speaker 1: I'm saying, all a little more. Every everything from John P. 2280 02:23:16,120 --> 02:23:19,520 Speaker 1: Keen to Jay Z were celebrating a little more. So 2281 02:23:19,680 --> 02:23:22,400 Speaker 1: you listen. My name is Tank, I'm Val and this 2282 02:23:22,600 --> 02:23:26,720 Speaker 1: has been the R Money Podcast, the authority on all 2283 02:23:26,840 --> 02:23:37,600 Speaker 1: things featuring our sister love one blood Blood, Yeah, yeah, 2284 02:23:37,680 --> 02:23:46,160 Speaker 1: yeah Money